sully1998 Archive

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11	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot	Discussion	sully1998	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 10:07 PM

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41	My sister was sexually accosted during a work party; she behaved like an adult and didn't try to destroy the young man's life, but talked to him one and one; this is real female "empowerment". Why can’t women being sexually assaulted and men being violently attacked be two issues awarded equal value? Why do you resort to ‘what-about-ism’ in relation to feminist issues? I’m a feminist AND a supporter of men’s rights. Because that’s what equality means; giving an equal shit about everyone regardless of their genitalia. A woman being sexually assaulted and a man being violently attacked are two horrible occurrences, and I don’t need to hijack one of them into my argument to explain why t…	/r/MensRights	23/01/19 03:56 AM
53	My sister was sexually accosted during a work party; she behaved like an adult and didn't try to destroy the young man's life, but talked to him one and one; this is real female "empowerment". I’m willing to wager that your reaction to a man who has 1ft height and 50+ lbs on you cupping your balls would be different to if a girl cupped your balls. The point is that men (generally, there are obviously exceptions) are stronger physically than women. Therefore if poses a very significant threat if a man sexually assaults a woman. Both genders should ABSOLUTELY be punished equally in terms of sentencing ect if they physically or sexually assault someone, but be honest dude would you reall…	/r/MensRights	23/01/19 12:52 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot It’s not a conspiracy; it’s a deep rooted bias held by both women and men which lead them to give custody to women more frequently. You are contradicting yourself. Either there is no sexism and no need for feminism and therefore things are fine the way they are OR there is sexism because women get custody more, and therefore there IS a need for feminism because we obviously still consider women homemakers > breadwinners enough time to grant them custody more. Which is it? For Christ’s sake we do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/18 12:04 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot And you sound like someone who cannot make any actual response to my comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/18 11:55 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I agree this is unfair. However, if you research the ins and outs of why this happens you might find yourself aligning yourself with feminism. Mothers are awarded custody more because of the PATRIARCHAL ideal that they make better homemakers and are not meant to be breadwinners. Think about it; who awards women custody? The judge. Not the mother or the father or anyone else. That is the judges decision. Now, if he (or she; women can be sexist too), thought of the sexes as equal and took all thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/18 01:38 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot What ‘market’ do they control? Markets aren’t dominated by spending, but by the stock exchange which is extremely male dominated. That is the most ridiculous statistic. Could you explain it? Women spend 80%? Of what? On what? This is the most vague comment, so I cannot even begin to dissect it. If you can clarify what on Earth you mean by that then I can reply. Because I fail to see how the entire global economy is controlled by women buying 80% of sales items (80% of produce on SALE is bought b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/18 01:33 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Imagining oneself as shorter, lighter and with less testosterone is not an impossible though experiment, surely?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 10:59 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Tu quoque, Robin	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 05:22 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot You think it was okay that wives were, in effect, in servitude to husbands just because the husbands were in servitude to a lord? I can not speak for all women but I personally would rather accept responsibility etc in order to be in servitude to the same lord as my male counterparts, rather than never owning anything for myself, having no career options and being given to a man to whose wishes i am bound to. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Just because working men were slaves to the rich doesn’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 05:11 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot So your rule of thumb is; at least we’re not Saudi Arabia, so suck it up? Black people shouldn’t have to deal with casual racism because at least they’re not slaves anymore. Disabled people shouldn’t have to deal with employment discrimination because at least they’re not killed at birth anymore. Women shouldn’t have to deal with everyday, casual sexism, sexual harassment etc because at least we have the vote and can drive, unlike Saudi Arabia?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 04:59 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot My punctuation gets crazy on a Saturday.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 02:37 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Factually incorrect AND unhelpful to discussion; well done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 02:25 PM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I never claimed all men led good lives historically. But they were free to pursue whatever they were physically able to. How can you deny that this begs such as education, creativity, career possibilities were so limited in comparison to men. Until relatively recently we were literally our husbands property by law. That makes the husband, regardless of his social class, the owner of a woman. I would take the possibility of going to war if it meant I couldn’t be sold to a man by my father, have t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 02:24 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot “All women are X?” What bridge did you crawl out under from?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 02:20 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot You can’t be serious. We have had 2 female prime ministers. Just because we have one currently does not automatically, magically mean sexism in politics doesn’t exist. America has had a black president. Does racism in America and American politics not exist now either? And if it does exist then yes, of course people will still complain about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 02:18 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If they decline sexual advances they risk being unable to progress in the industry, so it Isn’t just pressure. Are you so naive as to think there would be absolutely no consequences if they say “geez thanks but no thanks kind sir?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 02:16 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Interesting. So genetically inherited predisposition to rape only occurs in men? So silly of me to think that biologically absurd. Funnily enough I bet you contradict yourself in wailing ‘what about female rapists!?’ when the topic comes up. Is every woman on the planet simply a potential ‘fuck’ to you? That’s extremely disheartening. Must be interesting relationships you have with female friends/colleges. I wonder how they feel about having no value but as a potential sexual partner to you. We …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:46 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Why should we have to put up with something that the other half of the population doesn’t? I don’t understand what the aversion to this behaviour changing is. Wouldn’t it be a good thing if women didn’t have to experience this? What do you have against the idea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:29 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Exactly this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:27 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If you google feminism this is what you will find: “Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.” The word has become so subjective with people, mainly men, being offended by such a trigger word like the left wing snowflakes they criticise. It means equality for women, and so equality for men by default.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:25 AM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I believe the press in general should be prohibited from releasing personal details or identities of ANY accused individual for ANY crime. You believe all feminists or women apparently are bitching and whining. Have you considered that actually we are made to feel uncomfortable, shamed or inadequate everyday when we are leered at, touched inappropriately or propositioned in our place of work? As for your first point ‘rapists reproduced’ is a very disturbing argument. Some men’s ancestors were ra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:20 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I have said throughout this thread that serious accusations are only appropriate to include in the MeToo movement if they have also been through the proper judicial system. But anonymous accounts of how sexual harassment and misconduct affect nearly all women’s lives might just make men see how little things they consider banter or jokes or their right to flirt (even in the workplace - like really? Why do men - and some women- think that is ever appropriate) really influence our decisions in our…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:10 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If it’s portrayed and executed correctly then it should do( as I have said in other comments on this thread. Call it equalitarianism if the phrase feminine in a word makes you uncomfortable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:02 AM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If you were still, in 2018 cheers, experiencing at least inappropriate conduct (which shouldn’t occur on account of basic human decency anyway) to at work sexual harassment or assault then you wouldn’t think that the public becoming more aware of the frequency of such experiences could have a positive impact? Claims amounts the MeToo movement should not mention names of perpetrators unless they have also been felt with lawfully but anonymously shared experiences about how women’s lives have been…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/18 12:01 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I wholeheartedly believe that this is a classic example of how feminism can benefit both sexes. Men SHOULD be encouraged to pursue careers which have previously been seen as ‘feminine.’ They should be able to become nurses or primary school teachers etc without bias from employers or judgement from peers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 10:09 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot So let me get this straight; you place the blame for the Weinstein scandal on the women, not Weinstein? That is extremely enlightening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 08:56 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot No women should ever have been pressured or approached by Weinstein to exchange sexual favours for casting though. I’m getting the impression you don’t even have enough empathy to understand how power plays work. Young girls, usually new to the career are vulnerable and likely to crack under his pressure. That is an unacceptable use of power, just as in the case of Kevin Spacey.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 08:15 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I understand the movement has gone too far. My OP was intended to ask men how they feel women should deal with sexual harassment/inappropriate conduct. Anything above that (assault) should be dealt with through the police. The thing MRA forgets is that too often women who do go to the police are pressured to drop the case or not taken seriously and something is done. I’m sorry for your friend. The sad thing is I cannot even bring my own experience into this debate because I doubt I will be belie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 04:01 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Clearly a lost cause. Such a shame; their lives must be so boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 03:52 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I’m not going to vote conservative just because May’s a woman. Say I did just that; quite rightly you would argue I’m being sexist and discriminating positively.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 03:51 PM
5	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Wow. I feel so sorry for the women in your life. I wonder if they’d bother keeping you around if they knew what you really think about 3.5 billion women like them. And ‘sex denying’? You’re not entitled to sex automatically. No one is. Be a person who someone wants to have sex with and you will get sex. There lies your problem mate. Maybe it’s not the women, it’s you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:17 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I think the genders are equal in mental ability . Whether their ability is fostered from birth is another matter entirely. And I believe girls are less likely to pursue interests/jobs that they may well excel in because they are subjected to stereotypes from infancy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:14 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I disagree. If male politicians are opinionated they are seen as strong. If women do the same then they are whiny or cold. We can’t be too motherly but can’t seem too un-womanly. We can’t win.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:12 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Personally I would take having to enlist if necessary if it meant freedom to pursue any interests or careers, and benefit from education. I’m sure women 100 years ago would probably have felt the same. But we were never offered the choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 10:22 AM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot There is absolutely no conclusive proof that intelligence is significantly affected by gender. The only concrete data suggest women are better at identifying emotion in others. As for the bell curve on intelligence, there have been more male geniuses (you aren’t helping your argument with your spelling btw), however women have only been allowed, let alone encouraged, in scientific, academic and artistic fields for under 100 years. In another 100 years I expect we will see a far more even statist…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 10:19 AM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I was referring to modern diplomatically elected leaders. Not monarchies. The times you reference are from parts of history when monarchs, regardless of gender, frequently went to war. In the modern age wars have been started by male prime-ministers/ leaders. America hasn’t even got to a stage in which they have HAD a female leader. As for our abilities, obviously you do feel that women generally have lower mental ability to men, which I would challenge. How would having breasts limit a mans val…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 07:21 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot No, I think the sexes are equal in intellectual ability; don’t you? Our police do not have weapons on them in their everyday duties. Only specific, approved task forces are permitted to carry weapons; for example during SWAT operations or whilst guarding public places after a recent terrorist attack. The only time I have ever seen a police officer carry a gun is whilst guarding a tube station after the London Bridge attack last year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 07:14 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Elaborate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 07:11 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Okay, so let’s compare this. If the MeToo movement was about people of colour presenting their experiences of racism in the workplace would you differently? Are women not allowed to challenge sexist behaviour and/or are people of colour not aloud to highlight their experiences of racism. Men in 2018 are not responsible for the actions of their ancestors. HOWEVER they are responsible for any behaviour they exhibit which does not treat men and women equally. Just because you agree with equal pay f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 07:11 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Granted, somewhat, but why would anyone in the workplace make anyone (male or female) uncomfortable by using sexual language or behaviour in the first place? If you make someone uncomfortable then perhaps you are not using correct workplace behaviour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 07:04 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I find it really interesting that you use the excuse that maybe some women were complicit in his actions rather than admit that he did engage in thoroughly unacceptable behaviour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 07:03 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Sorry, you’ve failed to explain at all how the metoo movement is just ‘whining’ with no merit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:51 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot They weren’t engaging in sexual relations with these men! These men were performing non consensual behaviour towards them! If you grab my ass or tits at the workplace or expose yourself to me I did NOT give consent mate. How is this the woman’s fault that a man can’t concentrate on work other than sex for his 9-5 work day? We don’t grab your crotches or expose ourselves to you. What are you on about?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:49 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If a female politician says she will attempt to resolve women’s issues then I believe her more than a male politicians saying the same thing. If a black politician says he will stand for racial equality then I tend to believe him over a white politician doing so. Why? Because people care about issues that THEY have been affected by. There are many exceptions to the rule, but that is my experience of politics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:47 AM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot This isn’t about consensual relations’ with ‘stronger men.’ It’s about NON consensual behaviour designed to exert power. We don’t reward these men. We are now speaking out against them. If you aren’t performing any harassing behaviour or treating a female friend/college differently than you would a male one then there is no problem. If you are close enough to a friend then you might slap their arse, regardless of gender. If you DONT have that friendly relationship with a women then don’t touch h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:46 AM
0	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Quite the contrary. My argument is clear: the movement was important. It meant that maybe young girls would know that if they were exploited by those in power, they are not alone. And feeling alone and as though you won’t be believed is what prevents women from using the correct judicial proceedings to bring such men to justice. You don’t understand this, and fair enough, because you haven’t had a man exert sexual power over you, specifically at a young age when you are vulnerable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:42 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot You accuse me of living in a hole for not supporting feminist political parties then admonish me for thinking we need such parties? Sorry, please good man explain to my little female brain what my political alliances should be? I vote for the party I believe cares about women’s issues, racism, discrimination against LGBT individuals and the disabled. No major parties focus on any of these in detail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:38 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot My knowledge on international political affairs is decent, bu but being from neither of those countries I doubt I could see was on behalf of Canadian or American women in regards to whether their leader did enough for women. From my limited knowledge Justin Trudeau promised a lot of things, not just gender equality, and has not yet delivered. Obama had his hands pretty firmly tied. Maybe this says more about the mediocre and dishonest nature of politicians generally, which is another conversatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:35 AM
0	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I suspect your opinion would be different if an instance of such abuse had happened to you. Maybe when you were a teenager convinced no one would believe you and only in realising (through the movement) that you were not alone in this experience could you speak out. Those who have not had sexual power used against them seem unable to empathise with those who have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:32 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Poor people ARE wary of rich people. That is why they (generally) don’t vote conservative in GB. This is so irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:30 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot In Great Britain? There is not a political party specifically addressing women’s issues strong enough to make the ballot paper. Labour and Green Party come closest, and so I voted Green nationally and Labour locally. I live in reality, thanks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:29 AM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If men didn’t sexually harass us in the streets or in the workplace then #MeToo would never have been necessary. If toys preferences (often leading to career choices) in early life were more gender neutral then maybe we’d see more women take on previously ‘male’ roles. I agree there are instances in which men are discriminated against; for example in custody agreements for children. Then maybe men should start a # movement to address that. Instead of bashing a feminist movement which addresses a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:27 AM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot You from the states? I dislike the general M’erica bashing online recently but civil unrest isn’t settled so passively everywhere else in the world. Women across the world ARE fighting and protesting and dying for their causes. Prime example; Malala who was shot in the head for wanting an education. She currently attends Oxford University where she plans to address the male:female imbalance in political systems and continue to fight for women’s freedom to access education. I would consider her a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:22 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot AND prevent the actual occurrences of sexual harassment and abuse which have thrived on women being pressured to keep silent? I believe such claims should be settled in court, not social media, but the MeToo movement was SUPPOSED to Involve anonymous l instances of sexual harassment victims have experienced to reassure others that they are not alone and deter offenders from continuing to behave this was. I refer to the original movement in which offenders were not named unless judicial action ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:16 AM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot If the choice for your MP is between a (usually white, at least middle class) man and another (usually white, middle class man) then how does it matter what your interests are as a voter? You can choice man X or man Y but neither have any agendas to benefit a demographic they aren’t part of. It is usually female politicians who talk public ally about women’s rights, or racially minority politicians who are aware of racism and talk about it during their campaigns.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:09 AM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Historically wars were started by men because women weren’t leaders in positions to start wars. Women didn’t fight in wars because a woman’s place was domestic, not political or ‘useful.’ We fight in wars now though. If it weren’t for the horror stories of rape culture and discrimination in the armed services then I suspect more women would enlist. And if an important war happened now I have no doubt that capable women would be drafted as well as men. As for our ‘social value being higher’ - tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/18 12:05 AM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Men have a physical advantage, not mental. You can’t honestly think men are smarter than women. Women face more challenges to be encouraged to use their mental capabilities to be in positions of power than men do. As for ‘men’s with guns protect us’ I live in Great Britain, where female police officers (not police men or police women) protect both genders WITHOUT the medieval use of weapons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:58 PM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot You really think there is more positive discrimination than negative for women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:56 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot But wouldn’t you support a #MeToo movement to prevent such harassment against your gender in this case? Surely so, and if so then why the backlash against the women doing it currently?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:55 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot A) I live in Great Britain so your first few points regarding guns have little use to me. B) you honestly look think we would bitch on Twitter? If the suffragettes didn’t protest and unfortunately die for their cause back then, then we would now. I assure you. That you would say that says a lot about your negative view on women generally which was not something I hoped for in this debate,	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:54 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I’m sure you’ll disagree but I do believe women face a lot more challenges getting into politics. We can’t vote in female politicians to represent us if there aren’t enough of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:51 PM
4	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Women were gatherers, actually, most of the gatherers were in fact women. The knowledge of what foods were safe or poisonous was largely passed on through the women of the generations. Please don’t don’t go down the wormhole of this thought that the female gender was rightly subjugated because we were useless. A fair question. I’m hate to disappoint you but in terms of a feminist perspective on the issue I am personally opposed to ALL organised religions. I have not yet discovered a religion whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:22 PM
2	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Fortunate to live in a free, stable society and do exactly as you say in my day to day life. This does not mean that I cannot/shouldn’t support movements that help empower women the world over. And if someone heavier and stronger than you was sexually harassing you (grabbing your ass/tits, exposing himself to you, making lewd comments constantly), I’m sure it would impact your day to day life enough to support a movement which highlights this problem. The people who use the #MeTop movement corre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:16 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot I don’t disagree at all, but what I was asking is (in reference to the feminist movements duh as #MeTop), IF the roles were reversed and it was MEN subjected to a matriarchal system of power historically, wouldn’t you still be in support of movements that ensure rights and respect for your gender?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:13 PM
1	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Is your argument that ‘this would never have happened to us, so there?’ That’s not what I asked. I asked how you would feel about sexual harassment if you WERE in our position. You’re strong, tactical and ruthless. Not going to bother debating that as I don’t think this applies to the modern man, but so what? Does that mean we should put up with abuse of this physical (not mental) advantage? Would YOU if women were heavier, stronger etc than you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:11 PM
0	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Yet the MRA/MGTOW/TRP subs seem to be suggesting women be ‘put back in their place,’ and pride themselves on getting this message to more and more men. There does s em to be a backlash against feminism; maybe we SHOULD fret. After all; societies fate (specifically the fate of women in society) lies in the hands of a democracy comprised mostly of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:08 PM
3	The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) foot Yeah. All the little things add up until you feel pressured to put up with sexual harassment in order to simply keep your job, or Cat calling begins to scare you or if your skin instead of being a ‘compliment.’	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/18 11:05 PM
71	"Tired of lies and game players. Are there any GOOD men left??" This was genuinely the first myth an NHS nurse busted during my year 9 sex education class at secondary school. They really ought to give the guys schools the exact same talk. If they did then ignorant boys like you would actually know what the hell you’re talking about. Vaginal muscles completely change (contract and engorge) based on how aroused a woman is. How tight she feels is likelier to be affected by how much YOU alone turn her on than how many previous sexual partners she has. So maybe …	/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen	30/10/17 06:33 PM
5	Q4RP If the Red Pill is indeed the "truth" about sexual relationships, why does it have such a small fringe internet presence? Why has it utterly failed to catch on beyond a few thousand anonymous redditors? I am the only girl in my friendship group of 7 guys and 6 girls who is not single. Seeing the difference between how my male mates treat me and my single girl counterparts is really enlightening. From how they treat me I know that they can absolutely treat a woman the same as a man with no objectification and plenty of banter. I feel sorry for the other girls who don’t get to experience this friendship, but I do understand that if the guys find them attractive and they’re available them this wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/17 08:38 PM
2	Toxic black pill post gets upvotes and approval in TRP despite defeating the purpose of the sub I feel like on PPD if a woman disagrees with X opinion then she is a unicorn wannabe and doesn’t count. How many women have to disagree with a generalising, unproven claim for their consensus to be evidence against your views? I am a couple HP points above my boyfriend (in other people’s opinions, I personally see us as equal but my type is eccentric looking for full disclosure) but he is so much more patient and funnier than me and for me that is so much more important. A guy’s good looking? Gr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/17 08:16 PM
2	Is 2-8% rate of false accusations of rape really low enough to automatically believe the accuser safely? 4% of death row inmate victims were/are innocent - so the odds here are not necessarily worse than that, but I don’t see MRA’s opposing capital punishment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/17 11:58 PM
1	Q4RP: Do you really think that feminism is merely a shit test? But you should surely be doing exactly what she's doing? Assessing whether she's decent and worth the interaction? This is what it seems to come down to; men will lower their standards to the point of not even caring about the girls personality (she could be a nutcase) just to get sex? The process the girl puts you through should surely be the same on you put her through at the same time? Edit: just as friendship isn't a prize, neither is sex. Friendship and sex are offered to those we feel wort…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 10:11 PM
1	Q4RP: Do you really think that feminism is merely a shit test? Respecting things that are hard to achieve is a universal trait, it is why women are likelier to respond to a guy who appears less interested than an over-enthusiastic one, so that's irrelevant. I think there are more things for a woman to consider when choosing whether to have casual sex with man than a man does when choosing the same for a woman. Namely: safety. When wanting a casual hookup women are much less likely to go home with a guy while on a night out because of the safety issue. I'm n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 09:49 PM
2	Q4RP: Do you really think that feminism is merely a shit test? I'd argue this is due to the remains of the old societal pressure for women to be 'chaste' until marriage - that women expressing sexual interest is undesirable and wrong. Many girls just don't feel as comfortable putting themselves out there for fear of being labelled a slut, I think you're reading too deep into it. You have to admit the hypocrisy of judgement for men who initiate sex/have a high n count vs women who do the same. Women still have a lot more to lose from being more free with the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 06:51 PM
2	Q4RP: Do you really think that feminism is merely a shit test? I can't comment much on this as I don't feel it applies to me. I consider myself feminist and as Equalitarian as I can be; I asked my boyfriend out and I'm very frank about what I want romantically sexually and otherwise. No one can read your mind, you have to throw people a bone if you want to have an enjoyable experience. Feminism should empower women to take the lead, as it did for me. Sad that many young women haven't got the message.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 06:27 PM
4	Q4RP: Do you really think that feminism is merely a shit test? We may fantasise about physically harming someone we dislike as well, that doesn't mean we actually WANT it to happen. The beauty of a FANTASY is that it is just that: fantasy. If it becomes a reality then we are not safe and this is not the fantasy we fantasised. This is why having a mature conversation about what is on and off the table for each other sexually is important for couples. If this is done properly at the beginning of a sexual relationship then any time a rape fantasy is enacted it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/17 05:08 PM
7	Lesbians aren't usually lesbian Most women don't get off from vaginal penetration but from clitoral stimulation. Vaginal orgasms are rare amounts women, so if the lesbian in question doesn't experience vaginal orgasms then why would she need a dildo during sex, especially if she's gay and doesn't feel any lust for dicks anyway? Also endorphins have nothing to do with an orgasm; that's Oxytocin. Pick up a biology textbook.	/r/TheRedPill	17/10/17 09:26 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? It helps you be high and mighty on the internet but in everyday life to the people you interact with? No, it isn't helpful. Having someone be racist or sexist is just as insulting if they say 'yes I believe women/people of colour are beneath me' to your face is no better than them denying it. If you are subconsciously racist or sexist then perhaps you haven't come to term with your beliefs and would change them if challenged. Whereas if you are openly sexist/racist then you have DECIDED to embra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/17 04:31 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? If the sexes were treated more equally, and we had a large societal shift towards this view, then men would NOT be treated any differently when coming forward about assault. That is another thing equalitarianists, feminists and everybody should be fighting for. I don't frequent r/feminism because the 1% there who are the most vocal and frequent posters are hard to engage with. I don't agree with male victims being treated differently than women. This is encouraged from birth by the 'boys don't c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/17 04:28 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence Comparing the male to female victim statistics in America. Could not be more relevant to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/17 11:14 AM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? A step up would be addressing your own biases. It helps no one for you to be so brace as to admit you are racist/sexist etc, it helps to address WHY you hold these views, and work on at least displaying an unbiased attitude until you can lily internalise it as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/17 11:12 AM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/safety-and-security/security-on-the-network/tph-related-sexual-offences All male on female sexual assault	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/17 09:24 AM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? You admitted to being a 'sexist, racist asshole,' but claim you're leading by example?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/17 09:22 AM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? That's a depressing but realistic thought, and creating solutions seems impossible at the moment. That doesn't prevent me from thinking that it will be possible in the future. However, how that justifies being intentionally (or at least consciously) racist, sexist or homophobic TODAY I'm not sure. The world's shit. But it only becomes shitter if we choose to be part of the horrible attitudes we are exposed to. You can live in a sexist, racist etc community without being so yourself. Lead by exam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 10:27 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? I don't think there's any point continuing this discussion with you because I don't think you're willing to actually listen to me. I will say that female only taxis makes a lot of sense considering the statistics on sexual assault by cab drivers. Where I live this has just lead to the shutdown of Uber in London. Female only taxis is being adopted by companies because they are responding to the market: women won't ride in their cabs if they feel threatened. Unfortunately in large cities this is o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 08:57 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? If a word has a dictionary definition then I'm gonna go with what that definition says when determining who is following that definition or not. So I stand by my 'real feminist' point. I completely agree that men's issues are being neglected in some countries. I am from the UK, so I don't know about the situation in your country but I certainly think more attention needs to be directed to both men's and women's issues. MRA do not seem to be as active as the very vocal feminists who gather a lot …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 08:54 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? I respect your honesty. But you should respect mine. I have many flaws but prejudice isn't one of them, it would be fairly impossible to maintain where I live and considering who my role models were growing up I would not have made it to where I am today without people from all walks of life, and specifically in my case, women and a few people of minorities. Your a product of your environment, sure, we all are. But not 100%. At least trying to rise above your environment is better than believing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 08:49 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? There are Black Lives Matter activists who claim the races should live in seperate societies. Does this make the entire movement null and void? No. If you really believe that the pitfalls of feminism render the entire movement evil then you need to think about what this means. Would you prefer that the feminist movement never took place? Do your prefer the laws of Saudis Arabia to your own? I presume you don't. In which case you must admit the feminist movement was necessary, and not entirely wr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 03:29 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? Do you think that these fuckups (big fuckups which, you're right, discriminate against men and which I do not support in any way) are enough to claim that feminism as a whole and everything it has done for women's rights has been a mistake? There are pitfalls to every social movement it is the job of real feminists to help reverse these mistakes with the same passion with which they created the movement in the first place. If supposed feminists are not willing to do so then they are not real fem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 03:25 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? Read my other comments in this thread regarding 1:1 treatment, which isn't always appropriate. What does promoting equality have to do with my behaviour? I am, to my knowledge, not sexist in my behaviour (actions and words), and I try my best to keep it that way always. What more is there to give? Why criticise someone who is just trying to treat everyone equally? And by that I mean treat them based on what they deserve, not based on their gender. If someone's a dick (male or female) then I trea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/17 03:21 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? Feminism/equal rights is NOT about enforcing that all women be allowed do do ALL things men do. It's about giving men and women equal footing to begin with, so that if a woman CAN do something (is at least as good at it as a male counterpart) and wants to do it then she can be allowed to try. Feminism is not the claim that 50% of a basketball team should be female, it is the advocacy for the right of all women to try out for the team, if you'd like an analogy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/17 05:27 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? How did it give itself this bad image then? What products of feminism pre-tumblr morons do you hate so much?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/17 05:16 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? Probably, just as I am probably racist in tiny, subconscious ways, but that isn't the point. You can only control the way you choose to speak and behave. I do the best that I can, and am not aware of any obvious bias, so that's as good as it gets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/17 05:15 PM
2	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? Fair enough	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/17 05:15 PM
2	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? I completely agree with you. My point was that viewing every single human being as equal (in deserving of respect and rights) should be the norm. We shouldn't need the word feminism. In an ideal world no-one would even consider gender to be a factor to judge and generalise people. Just like race, religion and sexuality should have no sway on your opinion of someone's worth as a human being. But Feminism should not be synonymous with Linda Sarsour and her shit. I understand why it is, but she doe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/17 04:20 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? But I do, I really don't care about someone's gender. I expect the same thing from anyone in my life; empathy, humour, respect and good banter. My friendship groups are mixed gender and I have a brother and sister. I would not ask anything of a male friend/family member, college or partner that I wouldn't of a female counterpart. I split all bills 50/50 with my partner, pay the same rent as my brother (both still living at the family home) and we all take it in turns to cook, wash up or do the l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/17 12:54 PM
1	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? 21 yo female university graduate - nope I'm not sexist 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/17 08:07 AM
3	Q4Women: How do you feel about male and female Anti-Feminists? You're either a feminist or a prick (hear me out before you rage). 'Feminism' has been given a bad image by tumblr SJW's but sexism is comparable to racism, so Feminism should be treated grammatically the way racism is. You're either normal (not racist), or racist (a prick). There is no word for 'nor racist' because it is considered the norm (note I say 'considered the norm,' but accept there are quite a few assholes who challenge the norm). Similarly, there should be no need for the word 'femin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/17 12:40 AM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Not going to give you the title of my thesis. I have already revealed my date of birth and the university I went to. The people who frequent TRP and MGTOW are the stalking type. What does that say about the sub I wonder? Don't believe me? Okay 😊 I get enough positivity, respect and congratulations on the achievements in my life from the people around me without needing to prove myself to a weird stranger on the internet. Personally I doubt you've had any educated contact with the subject at all …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/17 07:38 AM
2	CMV True Alphas Love to Rape [LOGIC ONLY FEELS GTFO] https://goo.gl/images/ZwsKkf	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 07:39 PM
4	CMV True Alphas Love to Rape [LOGIC ONLY FEELS GTFO] Awww, so cute that you thought of me ❤️ But your post is the most random, illogical deductive reasoning I have ever seen. Like are you the raping alpha, or just trolling, or what? Either way not worth my keyboard. I'm going to watch Narcos season 3 instead. Much better use of my time. Have fun 😊	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 07:10 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Starting to feel like the 'women should have lower N count' thing is just so that you guys have an excuse for how little sex you get. I had stamina for a while but it's too depressing talking to you. Boyfriend was my first partner, been together 5 years and we waiting for sex till we were 19 because that's when we were ready. Neither of us lied to the other. My point is if he had had sex before we met then why would that matter at all? If I had sex before I met him he wouldn't give a shit; it's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 07:04 PM
0	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? So you go around the dating scene deciding if you like a woman by asking her N count? What if she's amazing and perfectly suited to you? Does that count for nothing if she's had a few sexual partners in the past?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 11:10 AM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? I'm replying to some guy on the internet, not re-writing my thesis. If that's it and you're just obsessed with how many vodka have been in your girls then I doubt I'll ever understand where your particular variety of TRP horseshit comes from. How about tongues in her mouth? Does it matter if she's kissed a few boys, but not slept with them? I have never met a woman who has cared about her N count; as in who willingly brings it up. We discuss it with each other if someone's interested but we're s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 07:41 AM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Your ramblings are getting ridiculous now so imma tap out. Starting to realise why these subs are MGTOW; because you're holding women to such ridiculous and unfair standards. Even the Christian churches are backing down on the 'no sex before marriage' rule; why would you hold on to a standard which is so sexist and irrelevant to the woman's quality? Sure, in an ideal world your partner wouldn't have a HUGE N count but hey, if I found my perfect partner and they happened to have a high N count th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 04:01 AM
2	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? They're a documentary, not a scientific study. Sigh. You guys test me sometimes 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 03:50 AM
2	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? This isn't about promoting one society or another.OP is claiming Japanese women are being good little girls choosing to stay virgins until marriage. The reality, however, is that both male and female Japanese youths are non interested in both sex and relationships. They're not refusing sex so that men will want them more as wives. They are just distant from the desires which other youth populations naturally feel. I'm not saying either culture is superior, just that the reason behind Japan's lac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/17 03:49 AM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? So you literally just care about how many dicks have been in a woman? So if you were gay, would you have the same issue with you potential (gay male) partners? I mean that's a really, really foreign concept to me which comes across as almost germophobic rather than misogynistic but I guess that's better? I guess I'll never understand then. Why would it matter? People wash you know, and after time the hymen regrows: 6 months without sex and you wouldn't be able to tell she wasn't a virgin (obviou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 09:59 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Go for it, PM me if you find anything in the source that you think I should question :) cheers, have a grand Monday!	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 09:49 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Fair enough. I've voiced my opinion on purge week enough on this thread so I won't repeat it. Ahaha my bad, I thought you were talking about MBT category mistakes in philosophy - missed the I on the end there 😂 The personality test? ENFJ in the few I've taken over the years. Dude they're just philosophers not female philosophers. It's cliche I know but I did enjoy Simone De Beauvoir. Laugh if you will but I read the second sex in a week it was fascinating to me having not read any similar works …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 09:47 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? You completely missed my point. To determine whether it's nature or nurture which causes these preferences in children you would have to isolate them. Because there is no way to determine whether it's nature or nurture otherwise: they are constantly subjected to nurture, to conditioning etc. How are you not grasping what I'm saying? The closest we got to a study of that nature was of Fiji island in the 80's, (because it had a tiny population with previously no media influence as there was no int…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 09:28 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Category mistakes? Sigh. I don't have a dick Hun; I'm not interested in a pissing contest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 09:13 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest The line between your true persona and troll persona is ridiculously blurred. Are they one in the same? ''Tis too much enigma for my tiny female brain,	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 08:55 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? I wonder if he thinks Institutional Racism isn't either :L	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 08:54 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? No, my point was how can you use your 'powers of reasoning' to tell if I'm right if you haven't even read what I've said/my sources I use to back up my points? You can't debate what you haven't read. Take the time dude. 'Gender role BS' - Totally agree; refreshing to hear It. I love myth busters, was a sad day it ended. Think we'll agree to disagree on the extent to which we should trust in scientific research. I completely understand your perspective, I just see it in a different light. There '…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 08:52 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Please show me the study to which you refer to? Where is it proven that boys reach for trucks etc? We CANT isolate children to fully gage to what extent their preferences are nature/nurture. It's an ethical violation of study. I believe that boys are just as encouraged to pursue physics as girls are arts. Don't get me wrong, there probably is a biological tendency for girls and boys to do so, however does that prove ANYTHING about girls' capacity to succeed in areas boys MAY genetically prefer f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 08:45 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest The mind expands with (credible) knowledge, not contracts 😊	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 08:33 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Sigh. A lost cause I see. I never said it was a science. When I even began talking about science it was regarding to my sources and how yours do not compare. Philosophical Logic is a mathematical entity in the examples I gave. My point was as follows (I'll even put it in logical form for you - aren't you spoilt): P1) I am a woman P2) I can use Logic to construct or deconstruct an argument C) women can use logic. Dispute P1) if you want. It's entirely pathetic and a reflection of your immaturity …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 08:30 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest That's so funny I was literally just thinking that while scrolling through his post history 😂 Not the kindest kid in the playground, is he.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 07:08 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Erm fair enough I guess, but out of pure politeness and good faith of argument you should really have he decency to read the entire comment and read the sources provided if you want to have an actual debate. Otherwise how can you know if I'm talking sense? 'I'm going by feeling' - dude MGTOW is not for you then. Good for you, but one of their mantras is 'men work by logic, women work by emotion.' I appreciate and respect your skepticsm, but unfortunately if one wishes to participate in the scien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 07:06 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Very good point. Was half a bluff anyway none of them will challenge me because they know deep down that I am/could be female, because you don't have to be male to know what you're talking about. It's just sad. Wish you could say 'well I'm a woman and I know about this topic' and they just accept that you might be both female and accurate without feeling they have to fight tooth and nail that we're not female if we're using logic 😂 So much 'well then you're a dude' circle-jerking on PPD atm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:59 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Not sure I can agree with that. It is not proven that subject interests are genetically set. It is impossible in our society to determine whether these are genetic or socially influenced, since we cannot isolate children of both genders from birth and study what interests them as hey grow up (for both ethical and practical reasons). The number of women who study mathematics and sciences at A level and onwards has soared over he past few decades. Why? Because we have started deliberating encourag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:57 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? It's cool, I'm not religious but I live by 'do unto others as you would have them do to you.' Even if those others are ignorant muppets who want to call you all sorts of names 😊	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:50 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? To truly understand what the heck you're talking about in a debate, you have to do the reading unfortunately. Otherwise you're just a layman talking absolute shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:49 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? How? What about the other 2? This is absolutely hilarious: I am the only one in the debate producing ACTUAL evidence for my perspective. You can't criticise my sources without having valid ones of your own, which you don't. Are you kidding? India is HUGE. You cannot generalise 'no one is forced into the arranged marriages' or claim 'they have a choice to decline.' http://www.statisticbrain.com/arranged-marriage-statistics/ Have a read. 88% of marriages in India are arranged. Consider the fact th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:47 PM
1	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? I mis-typed. As I wrote in another comment 14% of psychology students are male. If you clicked the link to my source you would have been able to correct me yourself there. No one ever reads the sources, it's irritating. Very good points about pre-modern education. I would still argue that the statistics speak for themselves: an overwhelming majority of psychology students are women. So women are surely much likelier to know what evolutionary psychology is. The EP you guys at TRP and MGTOW spout …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:36 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Logic is a class of philosophical thought. Here's some information about how philosophical Logic, and mathematics become one in the same at degree level: https://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/what-then-is-mathematics/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/philosophy-mathematics/ (scroll down to the logicsm section). Here is an example of just how mathematical (or scientific) Logic can get: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/russell-paradox/ Scroll through, and see how in Philosophy we use ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:30 PM
1	Why feminism is wrong. Totally forgot. I don't like personal insults anyway so will keep it clean	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:23 PM
2	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? My bad! Personally I don't like attacking other users as part of my response, so I'll stick to keeping it clean 😊	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:23 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Can't send a pic by PM. If you want the proof (pic of my very female self holding paper reading sully1998, October 2nd 2017) then PM me an email address and I will send you it. I can't do any more than that guys. Really sad that you think so low of women that you won't just take my word for it, but there you go.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:21 PM
2	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? You asked. I answered, whilst emphasising again with my university comment that I know what I'm talking about regarding this topic, so maybe you should give thought to the points I have made. I wouldn't comment on a physics post because I have little knowledge in the subject, but I do here and so that is why I am commenting 😊	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:10 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Wasn't blowing my own trumpet. Unfortunately it feels like women have to scream at you guys that we DO know what we are talking about before you even consider taking us seriously. I do know what I'm talking about, and you assume I am a man because I clearly know what I'm talking about. That is not only sexist but deeply, truly disturbing and wrong on so many levels.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:09 PM
5	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? I can hold both sexes to the same standards regarding sex because we live in the 21St century. I hold both sexes to the same standards in every other aspect of life (because I am a feminist and equalitarianism). I would not expect a man to behave any differently to a women, for any moral standard I may have. A man decides if he wants to have sex before marriage. Women don't decide that for him. It's up to him. If a man TRIES to have a high N count but fails, then to me he may as well have a high…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:07 PM
7	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Well you seem to be obsessed with women remaining virgins, not men. So let me get this straight: women must remain virgins until marriage, and if all women do this then men will remain virgins until marriage as a result? Why are women responsible for the choices of men? Surely men should just choose to remain virgins until marriage as well? Are men so weak that their sexual decisions must rest on the sexual decisions of women? Bit odd. That is actually very interesting, and if you take Psycholog…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 06:02 PM
2	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Facts are facts. They are not my facts, they are THE facts. You sound like trump; it's not a good look. Interesting theory, however I would argue less men take psychology because it isn't marketed to them as much, and they are not encouraged as much by their schools to pursue it. I went to an all girls secondary school, and we were absolutely free to choose the A levels we wanted, however interestingly at the local boys secondary school there was significant pressure to study maths, physics etc …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:49 PM
1	Why feminism is wrong. They seem to be fairly inactive recently actually. You can infer the joke for yourself, it'll be a fun mental exercise for ya.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:46 PM
3	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Well since I'm not a slut, his troll points must be bullshit then. What kind of ass uses the term slut anyway. Bring back the swinging 60's man these dudes are so uptight about sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:43 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? From a Russell group university, yes. I qualified for Oxford or Cambridge but their accommodation is baaaaaaaare pricey. Philosophy at Russell Royo universities is an extremely competitive and prestigious degree. Philosophy degrees were the foundations of the earliest universities. You guys love quoting philosophers on TRP and MGTOW, so it surprised me that you would scoff at the subject.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:42 PM
3	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Prittstick. All the kids at my UNIVERSITY were doing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:40 PM
2	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Interesting point. I would counter that although TRP is a large sub, I doubt the numbers of RP men has much influence at all on the national averages. I'm from the UK, so I can only be bothered to find statistics relevant to my own country, but as the source link shows: 14% of psychology students are female, so I believe if you asked 100 people on British streets (50 men, 50 women), more women would know what evolutionary psychology is. Your point about age as a factor is interesting though, do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:38 PM
2	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Click the link. The source is Cambridge university. A top 5 global university. 14% of psychology students (in the U.K.) are women. This is a fact Hun.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:36 PM
6	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? I'm going to play along that 'women are the gatekeeps or sex' has any meaning at all. Why does it only matter if the gatekeepers of sex have a high N count? None of you can tell me why it doesn't matter if a guy sleeps around. The ridiculous sexual standards pressed on women (that they must be virgins until marriage) was religion in origin. Unless you are religious there is no reason to hold this opinion. Even the Catholics had the decency to hold men AND women to the same standards; they pushed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:34 PM
1	Why feminism is wrong. There's a dick joke in there, but I don't want to be banned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:31 PM
2	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Biological sex is female, cheers for the concern though 😊 None of what you said made sense, and if you're going to slaughter scientific terminology then throw some more vowels in there mate. Look up 'Logic' (with a capital; show it the respect it deserves as a philosophical discipline), and 'deductive.' Google can help with this Hun don't worry. Never seen the X files, not even sure what part of my post brought your mind to that. Bit random.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:29 PM
5	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Neither am I, and you just helped me prove all my points so thank you 😊	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:26 PM
5	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Exactly, I swear PPD used to be more stringent on this issue? PPD is for people actually serious about having a conversation with people who oppose them, and all in good faith. How have the mods not spotted OP yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:26 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Not exactly. I have a degree in philosophy, as part of which I studied the scientific process. More specifically though I did A level psychology; the very first module of which is 'the scientific process' - covering peer review and validity in scientific research.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:25 PM
1	Why feminism is wrong. So you decided to troll it? Super logical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:23 PM
1	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Nope. Just an educated women who likes to read, and so has a wide vocabulary. Will PM you a pic of me holding today's date and time if it will assure your tiny mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:23 PM
5	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? So what constitutes valid research or documentary work for you? It seems to me you're claiming that the only documentaries or research pieces which are valid at the ones YOU say are valid. That's not how science works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:21 PM
5	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Because finding the right person to get married to takes time? That's not something you want to rush into purely to have sex. Personally I'd like my husband to marry me for way more reasons than 'I need to be married so I can have sex.' Can't tell if you're just a TRP troll. My other points are crucial: why is it only women who need to be virgins before marriage? What about the men? You make NO logical sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:18 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Nope, someone with a degree who knows what scientific study is and how to know which sources are credible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:17 PM
5	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Says some guy on the internet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:14 PM
2	What do Women think of the study of Evolutionary Psychology? Most men would have the exact same reaction. Only those who chose to study psychology at A level or higher would know what EP is. Maybe some people randomly read psychology journals, but that is rare. Laymen of Psychology are both men and female. Fun fact: WAY more women study psychology than men (at least here in the U.K. Where I am). So you might want to reverse your assumption. More women would know what EP is than men. Source: http://www.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/Images/109956-as-and-a-leve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:08 PM
2	CMV There are no women on PPD, it's a giant sausage fest Hi there, 21yo female with a philosophy degree from Leeds university in the U.K. When I debate on PPD I use logic. I try to reconstruct OP's argument into the following form: P1) P2) C) Which is the standard deductive argument format. From there I despite the validity of their claim by highlighting one or more of their premises may be flawed, preferably providing links to respectable scientific evidence for this. If the premise(s) are flawed then the argument is unsound and the conclusion invali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 05:04 PM
1	Why feminism is wrong. Dude this is PPD. What are you doing here? Read the side bar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:58 PM
7	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? For anyone who would like some REAL information explaining why Japanese youths (both men AND women) are having less sex, try giving this a watch: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03fh0bg Japan is suffering from a worrying low reproduction rate due to disinterest in not only sex but relationships generally. There is NO evidence to suggest there are any religious/political beliefs influencing this. Japanese women, and men, are not watching their N count before marriage. This is a ridiculous, unsup…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:55 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Nope, says every scientist ever. Scientific research is validated by the scientific community. It is peer-reviewed. Look that up if you don't know what it means. The study you linked has not been peer reviewed. It has not been validated by the scientific community. Until that happens (it won't), quoting it is meaningless because it has no value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:45 PM
9	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Japan doesn't hold much sacred at all. They are much more secular than the US. They just aren't interested in sex! Again: watch the documentary I suggested. Educate yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:44 PM
9	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? What? Read slowly if you're struggling. Women are neither on auto-fuck mode nor lacking agency. We don't think about sex half as much as you seem to. We go about our lives, getting on with shit, and if we happen to click with someone or find them very attractive, and also happen to want sex then we might pursue them sexually. You realise sex provides many SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN health benefits right? It's GOOD for you. http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodsex/Pages/ValentinesDay.asp Start here at the N…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:43 PM
1	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Do you know anything about scientific research? Please tell me you at least took a science or psychology subject at A level? Scientific research has to be CREDIBLE and REPEATED to have any worth. You're quoting bogus statistics so please don't expect anyone to take you seriously. Come back with real, valid research (start by looking up what scientific validity means). Somehow I doubt you'll find any.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:39 PM
10	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Japan doesn't hold sex sacred. That's not what's going on. Their youth is extremely disinterested in both sex and relationships. I repeat: try watching "no sex please, I'm Japanese" - the documentary on BBC iPlayer. You are seriously misinformed mate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:36 PM
2	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? IFS are an extremely biased organisation with no independent scientific research to back them up. They are not a well-respected community; they are so little they don't even have a Wikipedia page. If they are your only source (bare in mind a clear, consistent and scientifically proven trend will have MANY sources from MANY different institutions and independent studies) then dude your correlation ain't proven. Try again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:34 PM
13	42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women? Erm what? I'm 21, been with my BF since I was 16, only ever slept with him which I did at 19. But this was a personal choice, because I just didn't feel like having sex until I was 19. Women don't consciously choose to sleep around loads. We sleep wth someone if we find them attractive/fancy a bit of sex. Why are you obsessed with women 'riding the CC?' What about you? Are men allowed to have multiple partners before marriage? Why do only women have to remain virgins? Why does a woman's sexual e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/17 04:29 PM
0	You ARE MORE than enough. Wow. If your mothers (the people who gave birth to and raised you) read this shit they would all wish they had abortions. They went through all that to raise a son who thinks they're a sub-species of whores. Ya'll drinking seawater or something cause this shit is salty af.	/r/TheRedPill	24/09/17 11:02 PM
1	Nailed it Not finding any evidence to support that which can't be explained through external factors. www.theguardian.com/life and style/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap is an enlightening read on this. Came to TRP to be a better man, but starting to realise TRP logic apparently relies on viewing women as an inferior class, so to speak. I'm not about that man, I know 'AWALT' but I legit have never met a single woman who conforms to TRP's generalisations more than red pill users see…	/r/MGTOW	13/08/17 09:04 PM
1	Nailed it Do you have statistics for that? Guessing you cite female mental illness rates for that? I was under the impression that mental illness rates for women were considered higher potentially due to the pressure on men not to seek medical help (hence higher male suicide rates). Again dude how many women do you actually know and talk to? My sisters and female mates are happy and thriving in their jobs, I just don't see why TRP wants to make women even less useful by discouraging them from working if t…	/r/MGTOW	13/08/17 08:40 PM
-1	Nailed it Damn this isn't the red pill I signed up for. Red pill is ultimately about bettering yourself. You sound like you genuinely think women are a sub-species. As for 'read the side-bar' that shit's not gospel man I just don't agree that women don't want to work. Might be a cultural thing; I'm 21 in the UK and I have never met a young man OR woman who didn't want a (preferably high paying) job.	/r/MGTOW	13/08/17 08:21 PM
0	Nailed it If women despise work then why are there more women than men at university? I don't know where you're from buddy but in the UK our young women leave school and pursue higher education or a career. The average first birth age is 30 for a woman, so sorry but I don't think they're hopping into motherhood immediately to escape work like you think. How many women do you actually know man? Try talking to one it might help with your delusions :')	/r/MGTOW	13/08/17 06:33 PM