summit_girl Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
5	Is "hypergamy" a myth originated from wildly exaggerated claims of sexual encounters by young men badly socialized when it comes to sexuality?	Debate	summit_girl	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:35 AM
5	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model	Debate	summit_girl	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:12 PM
4	Evolutionary psychology propositions are not, and should not be, a justification for TRP ideas, even if they were true		summit_girl	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:24 PM

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1	What should the consequences of Infidelity be in an LTR or Marriage? No forgiveness and no justification. Cheating = ending the relationship. I'm very dogmatic about it. I have nothing against people who have open relationships but that is something entirely different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/16 11:28 PM
12	Is it possible for a woman with a high partner count to be an effective LTR partner? I think you are being insecure. I would not want to be with a guy that thinks he must outdo every other guy I've been with in the past in all possible aspects, lets I compare him and then cheat on him. This is a demoralizing view that women have no will of their own, and are always hoping on the next d#ck if they had taste for it before. I think people that engage successfully on LTR are together because there is not only attraction but also compatibility of views, goals, emotional empathy, desi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/16 11:04 PM
1	CMV: My take on the 80/20 rule What about gender ratios of specific courses/faculties? I myself follow a program that is around 3/4 male, probably a bit more. I've had some courses (small class, multiple meetings per week etc) where there were exactly 3 females among 32 students. From what I know many of my classmates do not have a social/romantic life at all (I'm friends with many). Many of them do not look ugly, they just completely lack basic socialization skills and the few women in the program often are not their female …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/16 12:24 PM
1	90% of mammal species are polygynous (few males get the lion's share in mating). why would anyone think that the homo sapiens species could be any different? It is pretty depressing when people try to explain away their insecurities with zoology arguments. It is like negating couple million years of evolution into the master species of Earth, to begin with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/16 12:12 PM
1	CMV: If a woman is repulsed by the idea of giving a blowjob to her husband, she is not sexually attracted to him More information is needed on that. I like giving blowjobs quite a lot, and from what I've talked with my girl friends, almost all of us like oral sex, giving and receiving. However, willingness to give blowjobs, in my case, depend heavily on hygiene, whether the guy is as least trimmed down there, and the way is tastes (I've been with two guys whose precum tasted horrible, in the sense of disgusting/nauseating). In any case, these things need to be discussed at the beginning of a relationship I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/16 12:10 PM
3	Why does the redpill need to be learned? Game still works even if you know the mechanics of it. Similar to how ads still work even if you know the psychology behind ads I disagree. Unless the woman is purely passive about TRPers, it is easy to trick them off script and prove to myself the guy had a wrong attitude to begin with. My favorite "field test" about a flirting guy is not to give him space or opportunity to take an "ample lead" at first stages of flirting. I'm assertive, talk and so on. A guy enthralled on getting control of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/16 03:30 PM
1	Hidden bias in the consent discussion. Is the man always assumed to be guilty? Do you agree with making consent impossible to give at any level of intoxication? Only at levels where judgment is sufficiently impaired.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/16 03:23 PM
1	What does the red pill and the blue pill think of how I see how much western women care about looks as compared to women in the middle east I'd say women in the Middle East and SE Asia are often obsessed with appearance as well. ME women use much more makeup, even if they use headscarves. And all the nail polish in the World. SE women are big on skin bleaching as well. Far East Asian women engage in more plastic surgery (esp. South Korea) than Western European/N. American women. It is just that it manifests in some different ways IMHO. Parents also also outsize prejudicial influence on selection or partners for marriages in several …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/16 03:09 PM
2	Is a woman insecure if she dresses revealingly? I think there is no direct relationship between both. Sometimes I dress more revealing, sometimes I dress less revealing when going to the same activity/place (club, party). The issue of wearing short skirts in very cold weather without pantyhose is something different. In general, I'd say Western women have a much wilder array of available socially acceptable clothing whereas guys stick to pants, shirt and at most a tie and a jacket.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/16 03:04 PM
0	Why does the redpill need to be learned? As I woman, I like to read and know about TRP so I can spot more easily people acting on its principles IRL, when/if their takers ever try to flirt me, so I can either cut the flirtation out altogether.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/16 03:00 PM
14	Do you think this new barbie model is fat and encourages being obese? The 'curvy' barbie is more like 'slim-fit female body'. The original one was completely unrealistic, you need some 2 or 3 less ribs to fit on that waist lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/16 02:58 PM
1	Why is there so much struggle with consent? I agree with the central OP argument. The "tactical no" and the "soft no" are overall bad for the dynamics of flirting. They might create a lot of misunderstanding and, yes, rape. I also think that, although the serious crimes mentioned here involve some people who'd barely met, the most risky time and situation is when you are alone with a guy that I'm generally comfortable with, in a social setting, but who has been misreading my friendliness or banter for positive response of some clumsy flir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/16 02:01 AM
1	Does Feminism have any Merit? If so where do you draw the line? Then, again: are organizations defending, for instance, education for disabled children in Europe or Canada or US "silly" because children, disabled or not, are dying of hunger in Sudan or Chad?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/16 04:17 AM
1	2 Problems with How TRP Views the Importance of Men's Looks I think there is a small set of men (of my age range of interest, currently 18 to 27/29) who will be generally recognized as attractive by the majority of women of their general environment where they live (say, some 70% of women of that age will find these men attractive). A second, bigger set of men will be generally considered sexually unattractive, and reasons vary. Some have just very bad genetic luck. Most are here due to lack of self-care (obesity, unkempt appearance etc). Most men are so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/16 02:14 AM
2	CMV: A woman's past sexual behavior with previous boyfriends has nothing to do with you. You are changing your argument now. If a guy wants to explore heavy BDSM with all possible toys and gadgets of a sex shop, and his girlfriend has tried that in the past and disliked it, is she obliged to let the guy experiment on her just because of his wishes? What if the girl hadn't tried anything like that but also rejected the idea or had a disgust for it? Would she be obliged to let the boyfriend try because otherwise the boyfriend won't be able to experiment? You are being inconsistent. Ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/16 02:00 AM
4	CMV: A woman's past sexual behavior with previous boyfriends has nothing to do with you. I think if a guy has anal sex so high on his sexual priorities that he can't live without, he should discuss this earlier on the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/16 01:53 AM
1	CMV: A woman's past sexual behavior with previous boyfriends has nothing to do with you. First, I suggest that guys who think anal sex is just another different position for PiV to look upon some basic human anatomy stuff on the Internet. Second, it is perfectly acceptable to have experimented something sexually and not have liked it. It is also perfectly acceptable to consider certain forms of sex as a part of a must-have list, and be honest and open about it if it comes to that. The worst situation, I think, is having a guy that badly wants something I, as a girl, don't want to ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/16 01:48 AM
7	Does Feminism have any Merit? If so where do you draw the line? There are global and local issues. The OP argument is resorting to the whataboutism regarding "children starving in Africa". Overcrowding trains in London are not an irrelevant issue for us living here, although in the global scheme children starving in a more serious problem. You described a lot of very serious issues. I'm extremely grateful that female genital mutilation was not something my family would have ever considered, or that I don't need a male relative to go traveling abroad or signi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/16 01:26 AM
3	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model There are many alternatives for having someone with a pre-emptive decision-making power (to end the discussion and prevail by default). One criteria could be nothing changes if there is no agreement. There could also be decisions the couple decide beforehand to be handled on the basis of a "minimum common denominator". No (planned) kid(s) unless both agree it is the right time. No relocation to other country, state or area unless both are in agreement. Agreement that no one will ask the other pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 08:33 PM
2	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model Romantic relationships are not business and can only fulfill their ultimate purpose if both parties are equal, on the same foot, and having similar standing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 08:08 PM
0	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model That is wrong too and I never claimed otherwise!	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:53 PM
-2	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model No, because BDSM is just about sexual play (I'm not into it), not about people's lives outside sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:42 PM
-2	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model agree 100%	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:41 PM
-1	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model I have nothing against dom/sub sexual selationships or whatever BDSM or situation/role-play the couple is into. I'm speaking of things not related to sexual activities per se, such as deciding on family budget, raising children and all it entails, big changes like relocating to other city, where to travel on vacation etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:35 PM
-3	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model Basically, in the perfectly egalitarian BP relationship, the man is just the same as a woman, except he has no uterus. Hence he brings less to the relationship. Most pregnancies in the Western world are planned or at least desired as a possible outcome these days. The continuation of species is no longer in question. Moreover, if it were, then sexism would account for the fact educated women of developed countries have fewer and fewer children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:33 PM
0	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model Sure, but then good parents will try to weed out undesired or bad behavior, raising their children properly. Same thing could be used to achieve gender equality, even if there were (for the sake of argument) certain gender-specific differentiable trends, raising humans for the 21st century could jolt kids to behave in appropriate ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:26 PM
-4	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model . It is a way to allow for men to exercise their masculine natures and women to exercise their feminine nature. It is not like I'm suggesting men implant an artificial uterus. You are referring merely to social outcomes of our current misaligned society. When full equality is reached, there shall be no more "masculine nature" when it comes to making decisions in a relationships. Man will still have penises (thankfully!) but their penises won't entail a position of being superior to women, who'd …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:24 PM
-1	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model I'm studying a very STEM subject. My interest on gender issues is a side-quick. The good thing is that I'm very good at math and stats, so I tend to think of human behavior as a function of inputs (mostly social environment), so if you change the inputs, you'd have different results regarding social behavior. And we can achieve that in name of gender equality (or to end racism as well, for that matter).	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 03:11 PM
-2	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model You missed the point. It is not about sexual freedom itself, but power dynamics. Long-term relationships are (I guess) about much more than merely sexual activities. I'm writing of this instilled mindset that women are there to support men and "let boys be boys". Speaking of which, cheerleading in US high school sports is a very good example of how this mindset takes places. The boys go there practice, to learn how to "be tough", to develop "leadership skills" and what else. The girls spend time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:55 PM
0	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model The few experimental situations, planned (evil communist dictators or Nazis) or involuntary (massive die-out of adults in war zones), where you have a lot of kids being not socialized ended up extremely badly. Cases of children somehow raising themselves in relative isolation are full of horror stories of how that turned out, mentally and otherwise. There are even these agonizing stories about "feral children" growing in small packs in remote places experiencing social order collapse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:48 PM
-5	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model TRP expands the C/FO logic to dating as well, as in men should go looking after women and women should wait until men approaches them. The whole gatekeeper b.s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:45 PM
-8	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model So battered women who got so beat down they develop Stockholm syndrome and allegiance to the abuser, thinking they are happy because their partners no longer beat them very seriously anymore, are just another example of "relationship [in what] both people... are happy, no matter how you get there"? What about an arranged marriage where a barely pubescent girl was forced to go live, have sex, cook and clean for another villager twice her age? If she adapts to the situation and the man is good for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:42 PM
2	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model Humans are social beings whose behavior towards other humans is mostly a product of the environment and, in the context of post-modern industrialized societies, old paradigms cannot and shouldn't hold anyway. If women were raised free of the constraints imposed on them (I could cite a very long list of small and big ways that happens), women wouldn't be stunt when it comes to entering relationships with men as equal partners working in strict co-operation where nobody has some sort of residual a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:38 PM
-1	The subtle evilness of the so-called "Captain/First-Officer" relationship model The problem is, therefore, that society fail many women by not instilling values of independence, self-assertion and confidence to stood up for themselves and raise for the occasion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 02:26 PM
1	How Many Dates Should You Go On Before You Meet Mr/Mrs Right? I think that number depends a lot on how much does the couple talk online before first meeting. Right now, I'm not looking for a bf (single and happy). If I were actively seeking a date with serious relationship as ultimate aim, I'd rather chat a reasonable amount of time online (on Skype, with video, clothed) before agreeing on an in-person meeting. I find it a bit taxing the idea of going on date after date in person, knowing little beforehand about the guy, and I even prefer some active date …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 01:46 PM
3	CMV: The vast majority of men are broadly average. Archetypal "alphas" are a tiny minority. This makes no sense. Many male celebrities are actually ugly and unattractive, behave badly (as tabloid press goes). They attract either other female celebrities or women willing to play along in exchange for a ride (pun intended) on their money/fame/prestige/VIP status. I don't think celebrities or their associates are a good reference for the 99.9% of us who are not "public persons". I find quite bizarre these scenes of 20-something women becoming girlfriends to unkempt, much older, chain-smok…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 01:36 PM
1	empathy for misogynists? Nobody is perfect, there are levels of misogyny, and cancer is not something to desire upon anyone. Empathizing with someone's condition (disease, for instance) is not the same as wanting to hang out with them or excusing their bad behavior in some areas of life. These things are independent. Once a rather misogynistic guy at school suffered a motorbike accident, he had to undergo some surgeries and took almost a year, I think, to restart walking normally and get rid of his most visible scars. D…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 05:11 AM
3	CMV: The vast majority of men are broadly average. Archetypal "alphas" are a tiny minority. What I think is happening is that RPers (but probably most other people as well, to be honest), overestimate the number of outliers in the population. It's understandable: these outliers are often much more visible (e.g. celebrities, or really popular and noticeable guys in a social setting) than average people. So when it comes to trying to visualise an 80th percentile man (in discussions over how women go for "the top 20% of men"), your mental image is probably of a guy who's "pretty hot". The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 04:48 AM
0	CMV: Racial SJ movements are pushing feminism out of the spotlight, and into the ground. I think there has always been some conflict between feminists and anti-racist activists. Last year I was reading on how the issue was very divisive among American anti-segregation and civil rights activists of the 1960s (I'm not American, so I might be wrong on this). It I understood things correctly, several African-American activists of the time thought that feminism was a silly thing of white women, and that black women who dared raise similar issues within their own communities were accused …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 04:31 AM
2	Would you support government funded prostitution? I think prostitution can be made legal without having the government sponsoring, promoting or funding the activity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 04:22 AM
1	Would you ever date a teen mom/dad? Why or why not? I would not want to be in a position of being a live-in stepmother of anyone. I've witnessed enough drama about blended families and the like among friends. It is just a personal preference. The fact the child might not be living with the guy but with the mother doesn't change my personal stance in the issue. I'd only date someone who relinquished a baby of his for adoption. Having runaway from the mother and abandoned the children would worsen - by lots - my assessment of the guy's character.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/16 04:18 AM
10	if all men are potential rapists, why do you hang out with people you wouldn't consent to having sex with? There is nothing comfortable about a guy insisting on flirting after I said him "no, thanks". If I'm not interested in a guy, I don't want the aggravation of dealing with his tentative approaches and moves, let alone physical harassment! I think that is a very high-school afternoon movie thing: a girl having her clique/social status in relate to other girls raised because a hot guy, whom the girl doesn't want to do anything with, is pressing hard on his flirting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/16 09:55 PM
14	[discussion] Pegging/male anal stuff This is not the issue. Several men have issues with the possibility that some other previous guy in the life of the girl had her consent to try a given sex act, fantasy, role-play, whatever... but she didn't enjoy and/or doesn't want to play it again any longer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/16 09:51 PM
11	if all men are potential rapists, why do you hang out with people you wouldn't consent to having sex with? This questions have two alternative but equally disturbing premises. One, 'having forced sex with someone you like is a less traumatic experience' This totally ignores the old-worn, bur true, statement that rape is more about power than the sex itself, and that most rapists have an active consensual sexual life as well. Two, 'hanging out as friends with men should only happen in a context of sexual flirtation'. This is demeaning to the overwhelming majority of men who respect women in a context …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/16 09:28 PM
1	If the threshold for proving rape was much higher, would more men rape? First of all, I don't think most, or even a sizable minority, of men would rape, especially in regard to the archetypal example of "men accosting and dragging women to an alley and forcibly penetrating their vaginas with a threat backed by a gun". I see more of a problem in terms of disregarding consent of known victims, or it becoming (again) socially justifiable for a man to "lose control of his urges" if some woman they know is "provoking" or "arousing" him due to lack of modesty. So I'd say …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/16 09:24 PM
1	Is "hypergamy" a myth originated from wildly exaggerated claims of sexual encounters by young men badly socialized when it comes to sexuality? You speak as if there were just two categories of men out there. I think it is a spectrum. I don't doubt there are some young men who are too unattractive or socially awkward/creepy to get barely if any women to have sex with him, but I doubt very much that group is larger than, say, 1/4 of all young males. But, then, you also have young women that also don't have any sex because of similar issues (perceived attractiveness, awkward social behavior etc). Between the extremes there are many young …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/16 05:55 PM
3	Q4BP&TRP: how has theredpill changed you behave around others, or how you view observed interactions. Awareness of TRP and PUA helps me spot the occasional swallower (pun not intended), so that I can cut any approach/flirtation and save myself the aggravation of men who reject gender equality, parity and equal footing on any relationship, short or long term. I used to be mildly aware of PUA, but then I came across TRP, which has more potential to harm and bring aggravation because it is not only about just flirtation/getting to get close phase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/16 12:55 AM
1	How do you treat people who don't live in ways you agree with? I try not to get involved and just treat people respectfully, in general. If the person is a close friend, I might try to push the issue if I feel welcomed (I pushed hard a girl friend of mine once to dump her abusive boyfriend, for instance) in issues I consider serious. Otherwise just get on with my life. The only major-ish think I won't let go, ever, is paying half of my bills on dates. Doesn't need to be exactly 50% to the penny (and if it someone I'm seeing for the 4th/5th time or so we can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/16 12:33 AM
1	Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west? You are making a baseless claim. There is extensive research showing that women on average earn less on several professions, adjusting for experience, years on job, education (note I'm not making taking the general case of "working women earn less than working men on average", and I'm making it specific to professions/job descriptions). The biggest form of discrimination, however, for full time working women is not even wages, but the assumption that taking care of children, if any, well past an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:50 PM
3	CMV: Polyandry is just as normal as polygyny I'm not romanticizing them. Actually, I despise these evolutionary justification for modern behavior as of people living in 2016. But if one goes down that route, then please don't stop with sedendarization of nomadic groups on Mesopotamia.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:38 PM
1	Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west? Your argument is a straw men, compulsory military service has been abolished in most of the developed World (and rightfully so).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:35 PM
1	Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west? Your reasoning is twisted. Even if Western middle/upper class women could afford the choice not to work and still get on by marrying 'the right guy', it doesn't justify discriminating against those of use that want to have professional careers and be on an equal footing with men, earning our own money and paying our own bills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:33 PM
1	What percentage of the opposite sex that you come into contact with on a typical week would you consider attractive? I'm a 20 yo female, college student, living in London. I will answer considering only guys who look like they are between ages 18-28. Older men can be attractive but age difference automatically starts to play a role in how I see them (extreme example: they are several cute and handsome 60-year old men there (in a grandfather-cute way), doesn't mean I'd consider them ever as partners). 1 - 70%, give or take. I spend most of my time on a college campus surrounded by other young educated people le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:25 PM
5	CMV: Polyandry is just as normal as polygyny If you want to go down the absolutist strands of evolutionary psychology, bear in mind what you define as "society" is probably something that started merely 7000 years ago: permanent agricultural-based and property-enforcing settlements in the Levant (most likely with proto-Sumerians). Human civilization is much ancient than that and evidence points to the likelihood of mononuclear families being not the norm, though evidence if flimsy either way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:10 PM
1	Is "hypergamy" a myth originated from wildly exaggerated claims of sexual encounters by young men badly socialized when it comes to sexuality? If the interaction is just socially friendly, I don't think that would hold up necessarily. I think the requisites and factors taken into account when selecting dates and especially long-term partners is different than when selecting friends. I myself have many male friends that I would not consider as potential dates for a variety of reasons, it doesn't mean I shun them in social interactions absent of flirtation/romantic innuendos etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 01:07 PM
1	Q4 Women of PPD who are considered at least fairly attractive today: Did you grow up as a "pretty girl"? I was one of those girls had late onset of puberty. It was super awkward. An interesting (maybe coincidental) fact is that I ended up with more male than female friends at the time. I did not stayed with child looks but I gained height and adult facial contour before the rest so I looked flat for a couple years. Fortunately, things got fixed up fairly quickly and I "caught up" with my peers at age 15 or so. Moving to other city and school around same time helped me a lot to come up with a new at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 02:17 AM
2	Is "hypergamy" a myth originated from wildly exaggerated claims of sexual encounters by young men badly socialized when it comes to sexuality? It was a study from a dating site. I don't think the population of a dating site is representative of life out there, is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 02:10 AM
1	Q4BP how often do you get laid I'm single and staying that way for the time being. I do have 2 FWB I meet with varying frequency (I meet them separately, that is). I'm on a hookup-easy/exploratory phase at uni, so not taking anything very seriously regarding LTR. Most sex I get is with the FWBs, we have great chemistry and so far there are not risk of mixed/misleading feelings arising out of it. I have sex 2x/week on average. I'd have more if I had a boyfriend, but I'm not complaining. Oral sex is almost always involved when …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/16 02:07 AM
2	Q4Women. What's most important? There is some element of basic attraction to the way the guy looks, and if the doesn't pass the threshold, I won't consider him as a potential boyfriend. Some of the look elements are easy to define, it is more about what the guy must not be/have (overweight/obese are massive turn-offs, so are long beards, untrimmed body hair on chest or any body hair on back/shoulder, missing or severely misaligned teeth, anorexic-looks (think visible cheek and rib cage bones), dreadlocks, dirty nails, bad-tast…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/16 12:04 AM
1	Blue Pill offers no alternative In your reasoning, then, TRP is about picking one of the two or three traits people (of either gender) might positively have and put them on steroids, making the person unbalanced and emotionally stunted. It is like self-inflicting mental disease to attract other mentally unhealthy people forming "matches made in hell".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/16 10:27 PM
3	Blue Pill offers no alternative But TRPers are in self-deception, which is worse than self-denial. They have their own personal issues, which I'm not saying are not important, and then find a cult that will stoke them, validate them and promote unhealthy behaviors instead of dealing with the more pressing issue at hand - oversexualization of their lives in regard to how they measure their own satisfaction and contentment. There is or should be room for discussion of how relations between the genders can improve within a framew…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 08:05 PM
2	A proposed, new solution to the rape dilemma I think most victims don't want to go to the spotlight, but the system fails them, depending mostly on the power/prestige/reputation of the alleged perpetrator. Star school/college athletes or professional athletes in general are a good example: far too often there is some allegation, and then the bureaucratic machines tries to cast the thing aside because the perpetrator is way too important to be dragged in a trial or "that person would never to what you says the person did"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 07:57 PM
4	A proposed, new solution to the rape dilemma There was that case at an American unviersity (I forgot where). Rolling Stones interviews a girl with a horrible story, put it on front page of their website, then some month or two later the whole thing crumbled and there was a lot of (justified, warranted) criticism of both the girl who invented the story and also Rolling Stones for not checking the facts and sources (they only talked with the girl and never with the accused). Now if the issue is to prohibit the police, on their own initiative…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 05:20 PM
4	A proposed, new solution to the rape dilemma These limitations present a physical danger. Same with soliciting murder. Your suggestions is not about any imminent danger, it is just to shut up victims who might want to talk (victims of any crime, if this existed for rape, it would be extend quickly to all other crimes that have "social stigma" associated with it, negating the social control value of naming-and-shaming)	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 05:18 PM
2	CMV: Women on reddit despise men who are trying to empower themselves If a guy wants to become more confident, develop social skills, watch videos on Youtube about how to take fine care of his body so he doesn't have crooked nails or nasty fish-skin, I fully support them. Problem is when empowerment is translated into "raising above women because I must be better than them". This sort of empowerment is like the crash course of douchbaggery and I want nothing to do with men that can't see women as partners, just as "prey"	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 05:16 PM
3	Blue Pill offers no alternative TRP matches people in abusive relationships. Manipulative men and insecure women. There is no alternative for that when it comes to women who value themselves not an inch different than another human who happen to be XY on his last chromosome pair. This would be like a "stop being alcoholic" forum being denounced for not offering an option to the crave of booze for someone whose sole purpose in life is to drink lots of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 05:12 PM
4	A proposed, new solution to the rape dilemma For a starter, in US that would violate freedom of speech constitutional protections and, in many other developed and developing countries, their/our own freedom of speech protections as well. I do not want freedom of speech to be curtailed, but expanded. Some countries (Germany for instance) still have some laws about not putting full name of people accused of crimes but not convicted in the press, or prohibiting newspapers associating people with a crime that has 'expired' (sentence done + som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/16 05:07 PM
1	Have you ever met or known a 30's or older woman having sex with guys 24 and under? If so, what do you think made her successful in achieving this? I have a male friend couple years older than me (he's 24, and we are really just friends) who is known to have a "thing" for women in their 30s. He is attractive on his way (not to me as I don't like super muscular guy that appear boosted), and he has some 3-5 fuck buddies on that age range. I know them only by the descriptive names my friend gives them "the City manager", "the professor", "the barrister"... I'm not sexually attracted to women generally, yet I to recognize there are plenty of wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/16 11:18 PM
1	Why does everything have to be a competition? The problem is that your argument automatically assumes that men should take the lead. If society was gender-neutral in many other aspects, then being "masculine" wouldn't be a standard women would need to fit in to get CEO jobs, top positions in the military, entrance in judicial careers etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/16 11:06 PM
3	[Serious] To PP and BPers: Has content on TRP ever been useful to you? If so what instance I don't think guys with super inflated egos are the ones TRP "ecosystem" (sites, speakers, forums, subbredits etc) does damage to. The problem is when some guy has unrelated unresolved issues and then, instead of working on those, he takes TRP and becomes a jerk. Because he is not naturally a born-arrogant-jerk (some of whom even lack awareness of their obnoxiousness), he will put a lot of energy into mimicking the behavior of one. And that will take a lot of his energy, and, dangerously, provid…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/16 12:45 AM
-1	[Serious] To PP and BPers: Has content on TRP ever been useful to you? If so what instance It is not that the guy told about it with me. I was reading about it on the off-topic site of a gaming forum I used to frequent, and then from click to click I found the whole sub-world of PUAs, TRP, MGTOWs, the misogynistic part of MRA etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/16 08:43 PM
2	[Serious] To PP and BPers: Has content on TRP ever been useful to you? If so what instance Awareness of TRP/PUA has been extremely helpful for me. It allows me to spot from a distance or from near a guy that is following their creed, which often explains unacceptable/strange behaviors and now allows me to more quickly move over and freeze the guy out altogether if I have good reason to believe he's TRP/PUA-follower. This is not to say I detect all of them that come across. I wish I could. At least now I know the context where arguments such as men should have the right to refuse finan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/16 07:40 PM
4	Do you ever wish you were different from how you are? My wild guess (and no more than that) is: people who are sorting pills like us are usually more invested and concerned with our sex lives than some other sub-groups in society, males and females. And not all couples have high-energy sex lives while still happy and loving to each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/16 09:06 AM
1	What would an instant extreme boost in SMV do to a man or a woman? I've seen some male friends/classmates/colleagues that were more like late bloomers. From what I've seen, guys usually got all things confused when some hurdle comes down. But, then, I'm thinking of guys whose puberty was kinda delayed and then over a short period of time they undergo changes that make them look fresh but adults instead of overgrown preteens. Because it understandably shatters self-confidence, it probably takes a while for the guy to regain it, and then it could either be awesom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/16 03:39 AM
1	Debate: Who successfully has more casual sex, men or women? I (F\20\college students\UK) think it goes like this there are more men than women in the 18-25 age range having casual sex in general. Maybe on a 60:40 ratio there is a mismatch between ONS vs FWB expectations, as for most of us women sex gets a lot better on after a 2nd or 3rd time with the same guy. Women would rather have FWB or FBs than go for some high count of total guys slept with availability of guys is greater for casual sex, which allows more selective choosing by us, women. At the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/16 03:29 AM
1	What would happen to women with analytical and scientific minds in a Redpill world? The problem was that fathers were absent for years, and many killed. Kids grow better when they have two involved parents, we pretty much know that now, don't we? Those were days before Internet or satellites so I guess it must have been terrifying to not know for weeks or months if a parent/spouse was dead or alive after reading on a newspaper something about his unit. In any case, my overall point is not even that all women would have wanted to keep working, but the many ones who wanted to go …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/16 02:14 AM
1	What would happen to women with analytical and scientific minds in a Redpill world? Yes, women were also at the forefront of computing in the 1940s and 1950s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 07:28 PM
1	What would happen to women with analytical and scientific minds in a Redpill world? I'm against compulsory military service or the whole warrior-esque culture around it. I think it is a job, a very important job, to society, that should compensate those that voluntarily engage on it (necessarily opened to people of both genders that fit the requirements) for the risks they take and so for. Even so, the fact WW2 only drafted females for army positions doesn't justify one fit firing women after the war ended, just because men needed jobs. And if people didn't assemble plans, tank…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 07:28 PM
3	Why is it wrong to shame women for being promiscuous but okay to shame men for being virgins? My reasoning is completely the other way around. For LTR, a guy who's sleep with many women before is likely to have had tons of different experiences, try his fantasies and be more knowledgeable about himself. Therefore, if we get along well and decide to go for a LTR, is is less likely the experienced guy will have some carving of what-if's in relate to other women. He would be choosing me not out of sexual desperation as in "need to marry or move-in to get sex". If we are sexually incompatibl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 07:19 PM
2	What would happen to women with analytical and scientific minds in a Redpill world? There is some historical facts that can answer your question. During World War II, in several countries women were suddenly welcomed and actually requested to, for the first time, work in mass in manufacturing, laboratories, operators of machines, bankers, managers and many other jobs that were once closed to them altogether. The war effort needed them and too many men were away fighting. Guess what happened? They succeeded! None of the moral panics used to keep the professions out of women reac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 07:12 PM
3	Why is it wrong to shame women for being promiscuous but okay to shame men for being virgins? Ahhh, the standard 1a advice. You realize that you play into straight into the rp narrative, that virgin men are not interesting for casual sexual encounters, but suddenly when "boyfriend" or "LTR" comes on the table, then suddenly virginity isn't that important anymore. I am developing a more and of a piss-off an leave me alone mindset towards this. Go fuck whoever you want, for how long as you want, in whatever way you so desire. But and this is the really important part, don't come whining to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 07:00 PM
1	How can a guy aged 18-22 not be jealous of girls his age? I'm 20 and I'm in college, so maybe I can give some first-hand input? I can categorically affirm than many of my girl friends would like to have a more active sexual life, if it were not for: gossip scene/ shaming the off-putting behavior of many guys I'm a little more assertive in personal interactions so the restraint of many college women has the effect of making it much easier for me to get male attention if I want to. It should be something some say I should welcome, but then this imbalance…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 06:52 PM
1	Why is it wrong to shame women for being promiscuous but okay to shame men for being virgins? Slut-shaming and virgin-shaming are bad attitudes. This all being said, there is a subset of men that not only are sexually inexperienced or emotionally very insecure (which is not a fault on itself and can be addressed with therapy, passing of time if it involve teens etc), but also resentful and angry at women for not giving them attention. It is not the majority of 18+ virgins, but it is a non-negligible subset. And few things are more off-putting in a guy than he behaving as if the female wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 06:28 PM
3	CMV: No One Has It Easier Than A Middle-Class White Woman Living In A First World Western Nation This is not the OP argument. Instead, OP is saying that Western women have it easier in life when it comes to dating/marrying, therefore their concerns about sexism are 'made up' or 'irrelevant'	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 02:07 AM
4	CMV: No One Has It Easier Than A Middle-Class White Woman Living In A First World Western Nation You are missing my point. Society evolves, but not all societies evolve at the same time. Just because there are more serious problems elsewhere, doesn't mean we can't multitask and deal with smaller problems in the West when it comes to women issues and sexism in general. We can multitask after all. The fallacy comes from the false assumption that we can't deal with problem #2 before completely solving problem #1, worldwide. No complex human-societal-scientific system operates like that. That p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 01:54 AM
1	People don't know what they want. The problem with OP reasoning is the assumption that dating is essentially a defined flow situation where contact or inquire is always initiated by men who would, then, wait for female response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 12:36 AM
6	CMV: No One Has It Easier Than A Middle-Class White Woman Living In A First World Western Nation In our debate club, this would be called out wittily as the starving children of Africa fallacy Are acid attacks of teens in Pakistan, female genital mutilation in Ethiopia, child marriage in Saudi Arabia or sex slavery in Thailand very serious issues? Of course few people would dispute that. The hatred of OPs argument is that he implies just because I (white, middle-class, 20yo woman living in UK) am not facing a great risk of these immediate dangers, I should be just super thankful that the OP…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 12:18 AM
5	CMV: "Slut Shaming" is 100% justified. I can't fathom the paranoia a guy must be in, if he thinks his sexual performance + fear-mongering attitude to sexually liberated women would guarantee him faithfulness in a long relationship. The possible outcomes are all bad * insecure girl, full of unresolved self-esteem issues, heavily dependent on how other view her, go after the guy. Result: a mutually destructive loop. * girl pretends to be what the guy wants her to be, and outright lie about her sexual past the moment she senses the guy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/16 12:09 AM