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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:15 PM
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Yeah I don't think a significant number of women are having abundance of casual sex but the issue is how things are going with society, hookup culture might expand. My problem with hook up culture is that it could lead to a self-fulfiling prophecy within young people.i believe bunch of women are having casual sex but with less partners and the few man that do have casual sex have many partners. Some women are indeed pressured into hook up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:14 PM
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Yeah that's why I don't use the word slit to describe promiscuous women or people I prefer casual goes and hook up warriors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:27 PM
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Yeah this it the problem I have with people when discussing hook up culture, they believe it's just people having casual sex when in reality it's much more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:24 PM
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You are being disingenuous and perpetuating a false narrative of the situation. Most women who commodity their body do so because they need money to survive. The media is pushing the narrative women do this for fun and validation. Only sex positive liberal feminist consider this empowering and a select few privalaged "sex worker" consider this empowering as a coping mechanism or paid to do so in those article.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:22 PM
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No, you are missing the point, people need to transform society not let it steam roll them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:14 PM
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measure to find a woman that will let them steam roll them and do whatever they want. I agree with this, they are just manipulative and don't really consider the emotional well being of their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:12 PM
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Progressives capitalists have more power than the conservative though. I am not saying conservative elites are powerless but are dying while the progressives are growing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:46 PM
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Yeah you make a good point let me edit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:37 PM
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You do make a good point honestly but I pointed out liberal capitalism because it's popular right now and soon will crush it's conservative past
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:33 PM
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I understand what you mean but I am beginning to see more social conservative moving left in the economics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:29 PM
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Yeah this is the problem I am talking about the growth of pessemistic and defeatist mindset of the youth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:28 PM
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I think it's more than just being underpaid and overworked. Capitalism actively destroys communities and pit people against each other for work and validation. It also amplifies narcissistic behaviors and tendencies within people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:26 PM
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The conservative wing is also the problem yes but the progressive wing is becoming more popular and erasing its own past to appear moral
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:21 PM
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I apologize
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:19 PM
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I apologize and took responsibility for my actions yesterday and today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:09 PM
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I apologize and took responsibility for my actions yesterday and today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:50 PM
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I apologize and took responsibility for my actions yesterday and today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:48 PM
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I apologize and took responsibility for my actions yesterday and today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:48 PM
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I apologize for my behavior it was not cool of me to call you names and I won't do it again. Hopefully next time we can have a polite conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:21 PM
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I came as to you as toxic because you pushed me in the corner and kept mocking me. As I said countless times I am ok with disagreements I just don't like toxic behavior. I can handle a polite disagreement, I am not sure I can prove it here but I most certainly can. I was just in bad mood yesterday
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:12 PM
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Yeah this is good advise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:02 PM
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Then what is the point of this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:57 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:57 PM
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But you would care about the media your child consumes right? You wouldn't want them to watch Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:57 PM
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That's strange I guess I just noticed more women in my posts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:55 PM
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Yeah but if people call out toxicity online you seem to harass them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:54 PM
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Let me take a crack at this. No I am not going to treat random women I meet with disrespect. But I do want to say that the women on this subreddit are pretty toxic and hopefully not an accurate representation of women irl. I try to be nice to women I meet online. The women on here are actually out to be assholes to anyone who disagrees with them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:52 PM
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I am not talking about people are free to live our lives but rather the kinds of media our kids and future generations will be exposed to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:47 PM
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I think men mostly post but women mostly respond and the women who do are toxic hypocrites. But that's just my personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:45 PM
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Bro we don't need to call them sluts their just hook up warriors
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 02:44 PM
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I don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:44 PM
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I would say casual sex isn't about sex but is about removing emotional attachment of sex inorder to leave people more easily
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:43 PM
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You are wrong, mental disorders are reinforced through alcohol and drugs. Drugs and alcohol makes mental disorders more severe. It creates a negative feedback loop. To ignore this is pretty disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:42 PM
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Society is very stimulating and burning us out look at the high cases of ADHD in our society
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:38 PM
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I wouldn't say it's destroying society but the material conditions that created casual sex is threatening traditional courting system
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:36 PM
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Exactly 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:35 PM
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If you are a man all the power to you because men virginity is looked down upon so sticking to it shows you don't confirm to modern societal norms
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:33 PM
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The material conditions that shape and influence the behavior of casual sex is also hurting the culture of traditional courting culture. So don't you think it's fair to criticize that. I believe everything should be ruthlessly criticized even the ideas that are being held as progressive should be analyzed and not blindly accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:31 PM
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Do you think this sub is mainly just men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:27 PM
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I understand where you are coming from, you actually seem like you are here on good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:26 PM
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I am sorry I was not in a good mood yesterday and should have refrained myself from debating I apologize
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:38 PM
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I am not sure what these women have to do with my post but I can empathize with the women who are have to sell their bodies to make money. They are cynical because of their circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:04 PM
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whatever, I really don't care, you are not fun to talk to leave me alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:47 PM
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Do you really had to pint that out I believe you want to own people than learn different views
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:46 PM
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Exactly I shouldn't be forced to work on my insecurities not should anyone be encouraged either. We are entitled to our insecurities it makes us human you know and by overcoming them we loose a major part of what makes us human. I don't believe insecurities ruins relationship I think the bigger problem is toxic behavior. It's so funny you are so keen on getting people to overcome insecurities but reluctant on correcting people toxic behaviors. Toxic behavior does not come from insecurities it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:46 AM
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What ever
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:39 AM
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I am not compassionate towards you but I am towards other people who deserve it. Yeah this discussion makes me angry you make me angry. Why should people be obligated to build more secure attachment why just because you said so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:37 AM
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Yeah because you don't know what it's like to take things personally it's fun. The anger is thrilling and liberating. It's feels good to be angry. Do you even care about differencing views? I shared my views and you didn't understand them and instead paraded a strawman. Anyways I am going to sleep I am tired of this. I will delete my account soon tomorrow for the sake of my mental health. I have work to do tomorrow as well so bye 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:31 AM
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Look lady it's hard to refrain myself from being hateful you just keep making me angry. I genuinely don't see the point you are trying to make here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:18 AM
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Because I want to get angry it's fun having your blood boil. I don't need special consideration from people on here. I rather die than expect you women on here to care about anyone. I just want the red pillers to see the stupidity of your behaviors that's all. My worldview is worthy of respect more than yours because your worldview is flawed while mine is perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:16 AM
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You know you are only proving my point here. You are strawmanning me, parroting your silly little phrases, and refusing to understand other people. Unlike me who have understand the history and origin of liberal philosophy. I know how liberals function. It's nothing but a by product of the merchant class overthrowing the feudal class. When I mean clingy I don't mean anxious attachment. I mean in it mean wanting to be with someone frequently. https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/being-clingy-in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:12 AM
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What ever bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:56 AM
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As much as I hate you I think you have a point I don't want to debate I need a supportive community who care about me. I am going to find one eventually. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:53 AM
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I empathize with the lonliness you struggle as I struggle with lonliness as well. You cannot argue someone's feelings away but you can empathize with people and help them heal. We are social animals and we are meant to support each other. Reddit I have learned is not a place of healing. Honestly I am frustrated that there arent people like me on the internet. This sub isn't for you, you are too sweet of person for this toxic sub. You need to find a healthier subreddit than here. I am happy to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:40 AM
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Why are you on this subreddit what do you have to gain from sharing your ideas here. This place is nothing but toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:33 AM
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But why do you people get to gatekeep trauma and what makes you think I am clingy? You know nothing of me or the hardships I have been through. I don't owe anyone any warning. You keep saying it's people who hold different world view as me is what's causing the problem and you are wrong. But you are too full of yourself to understand that you rather strawman me to make yourself feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:19 AM
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OP the problem isn't the women the problem are liberals. Liberalism is an ideology born from imperialism. They pretend to care about progressive politics but they are assholes man. Literally they separated their evil side into the republican or conservative wing of imperialism to make it look good. But imperialism is just imperialism. They get their laptdogs to demonize anyone in any way possible. They reduce social problems to individual problem so people don't see the real problem
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 05:13 AM
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No because the lack of participation doesn't make someone bitter it's bullying and reactionary ideologies. Mainstream people can still be reactionary. Look at Andrew Tate he is becoming more mainstream but he is reactionary. Buddhist monks who are peaceful don't participate in mainstream culture but aren't dangerous to my knowledge. Neither are my friends who didn't participate in mainstream culture
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:04 AM
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No they didn't participate in mainstream culture but envious they didn't. I am not I want to kill mainstream culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:54 AM
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I ultimately agree with you here honestly the toxicity from these men are revolting and tbf I have nothing against women as whole. I made this post because I was bored and was in fighting mood but in reality my hate does not lie with women. My hatred is for capitalism specifically the progressive branch of capitalism that we all like to call liberals. I hate liberals with a passion. And like I support the basis of women liberation right I don't want women to live in a society where they have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:50 AM
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I ultimately agree with you here honestly the toxicity from these men are revolting and tbf I have nothing against women as whole. I made this post because I was bored and was in fighting mood but in reality my hate does not lie with women. My hatred is for capitalism specifically the progressive branch of capitalism that we all like to call liberals. I hate liberals with a passion. And like I support the basis of women liberation right I don't want women to live in a society where they have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:49 AM
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Web MD is not a scientific paper. Show me a scientific paper then maybe I will consider it. I am sorry me being attached to things causes you great pain. I am sorry you took my bait. I hope I made your day Ms hateful. I bet you enjoy watching people suffer tearing away the things they are attached to. You people are disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:38 AM
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I was being polite and offering you a hug
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:33 AM
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I didn't participate in mainstream stupidy and I didn't become incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:32 AM
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Oh don't leave, do you want a hug
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:31 AM
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Can you get more boring, I have heard this snoose fest of a story million times and I still don't care. I judge who ever I want. And you can't do anything about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:26 AM
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I mean I like inflict pain onto other people for fun so maybe. I have not made fun of dumbasses in a while so maybe I should back to it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:24 AM
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Is clinginess a scientific definition though? Yeah you deserved to get pushed away you are women. Jk. But seriously though I don't give a flying about the linguistics of normative culture I find it revolting. Go back to Starbuck and drink your vanilla latte already. Gosh this subreddit wants to make me barf blood. Can you guys get more revolting. The answer is yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:23 AM
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I am trying to prove that you are stupid and trying to weaken human attachment. No but seriously though using the word clingy is pathetic and dumb. That's my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:17 AM
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Is it a scientific terminology though? I find it funny how you avoided answering the question. Your use of emojis is annoying and silly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:10 AM
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What is clinginess is it a scientific terminology or a made up stupidity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:08 AM
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I would tell my daughter to not date or participate in mainstream culture and advice her to focus on her studies and court with men who shares her values and beliefs. I will warn her about the tyranny of hhok up culture and tell her it's not something our family should ever submit. I tell her find love in traditional courting system and have sex when you feel ready and that she has a right to say no and state her boundaries. She has a right to her preference and standards. I would also warn her …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:07 AM
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How is he judgmental like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:03 AM
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The demonization of clinginess or attachment is prevalent in society. I personally believe we need to change how we think about unhealthy behavior. I don't like using the word too much to describe the unhealthy behavior as we cannot really quantity attachment and plus it doesn't really describe the problem at hand. Calling it anxious attachment is better than too attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:59 AM
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Yeah exactly this what I mean the women here are toxic and refuse to acknowledge their own actions and behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:39 AM
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I don't even know you, I am talking about the toxic women who I have interacted with online. I am sorry you had to experience all those shitty things. I come from a poor background and I struggle with OCD so I feel like I can empathize with your struggle some what. I hope you are getting better with anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:30 AM
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I cannot really afford therapy but I am practicing ERP. But thanks for understanding where I am coming from and being compassionate. I hope you don't mind me asking but what brings you in this subreddit it's toxic as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:56 AM
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Dialectical Materialism is real though many scientists are beginning to understand this. Look at dialectical biology. Hook up culture isn't just casual sex that's like saying market is capitalism. I provided you with some links I am not sure if you are capable of reading them my guess is you will not engage with articles that contradict your world view and make excuse to not read them. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0959353513480018 https://exploringyourmind.com/sex-isnt-natural-cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:09 AM
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OP they conducted an interesting experiment in Lemurs and Voles in which they found they were still able to pairbond even without certain brain chemicals. Plus even if it's genetic, genes can deteriate overtime so I think monogamy could be product of many factors. Also just because poly is more common doesn't mean that's how humans are meant to be or poly is good. I theorize polyamory is more common because nature is very chaotic and unstable. Animals do a lot of things that seem immoral to us. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:41 AM
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Sex at dawn is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:20 AM
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We should do that to because it's natural that's how we are supposed to be. I support infanticide. Like if the father suspects the baby isn't his he should kill it cause it's natural. This satire btw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:12 AM
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Women aren't morons only the hook up warriors are morons
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:10 AM
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I don't think it's partly the reason but rather the main reason why people are not marrying young. Economic forces are the main driving force of the development of society. All the social upheaval of society is rooted in class struggle. The idea we figure out is silly because humans aren't born with qualities they discover but obtain new qualities from social experience. But the process to obtain these qualities themselves don't shape a person's mindset and attitude towards sex. A person with in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:07 AM
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Ok bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:09 PM
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Ok what ever lmao I have explained myself enough bye
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:07 PM
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You are correct these are tiny set but I would say they are the loudest you know what I mean. These women aren't misandrist they are disengenious. But I think everything deserves to be ruthlessly criticized
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:43 PM
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I am not downplaying or denying misogyny nor am I saying the toxic behavior online women is on same level as misogyny. I am not saying all women are pushing hookup culture but the women I have interacted with. Hook up culture is real there is evidence for you I can send you some evidence. Plus hook up culture is not just casual sex. Just because humans have been doing it for long time does not make it ok or ensure it's survival into the future of humanity. You are arguing from a mechanical mater…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:30 PM
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You do make good point here and I do think you are correct but I do want to say I probably don't hate women irl or all women but I do want say I hate the women I have unfortunate experience interacting with on this sub and the women writing those awful sex positive articles. I think people should have right to dislike and hate people who made them uncomfortable. Yeah I have so much hate built inside of me because I was heavily bullied as a kid and abused by my parent. But I am entitled to my hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:00 PM
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What are you even talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:54 PM
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Yeah there is so much indoctrinating in our society it's revolting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:52 PM
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I suppose you are correct but I hope most women aren't like this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:51 PM
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Take care man bye
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:50 PM
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How is conservative hugbox being direct seems like mocking to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:48 PM
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I would say the coupling of sex and romance like the coupling of kissing and sex. The road map of people getting into relationship with the intention of being together and if things don't work out break up then enter in a different relationship with the intention of remaining
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:48 PM
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So what are my broad assumptions that are not incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:46 PM
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Honestly I care about sharing the same cultural values as my partner than idea of women remembering their ONS more than their relationship but let me offer you another perspective. It's not the sex men are concerned about but her leaving her partners after sex is what is concening to men. We believe sex is a mechanism to form attachment and strengthening bonds and we don't want that idea broken so to speak. Yes we accept women can form pair bonding even after casual sex but it's important for us…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:44 PM
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You ignored anything I said and continue to run with a strawman. You do realize I disagree with people online. I disagreed with Buddhist and some feminist on discord but I don't have problem with them at all. I have problem with people behavior on here. If you cannot understand that I don't know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:14 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:51 PM
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I don't blame women how they think about men from their experience online like lmao. I don't hate women i am just calling out toxic behavior of women here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:50 PM
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Yeah but these toxic behavior from these women are being normalized and anyone who calls out on their bullshit are demonized that's the problem. You are downplaying and making it seem like it's just a simple disagreement when in reality it isn't. This is just toxic and I am simply pointing out toxicity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:10 PM
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Yeah I plan to delete my reddit account as soon as I can. I just don't see the conservative and virgin women here though. I don't see them on the internet at all. I am not expecting to change the minds of closed minded women in here but point out the their toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:07 PM
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Thank you for understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:03 PM
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I am not sure if there is a point in me explaining myself if I am going to be mocked instead of having a well thought discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:02 PM
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Fair enough but you do seem to have the holier than thou attitude when you said hugboxes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:47 PM
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I am not saying women are toxic on the same level as those toxic men but the thing is that we still have a right to complain about toxic behavior of people we interact. How can we as society evolve and grow if we only focus on the really bad stuff. I firmly believe everything must be criticised ruthlessly even if it's not as bad compared to other things. Also me pointing out the toxic behavior of women does not negate the toxicity in men nor does it mean I don't care about the well being of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:46 PM
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Blame the individual and ignore the social conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:07 PM
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Again I am not saying that women living their lives are the problem the problem is their refusal to understand how people see the world differently than their liberal understanding of the world and blaming men for their insecurities. I have shown women and people I disagree with empathy heck I even was supportive towards a women who cheated on her boyfriend. The other issue is online communities are monopolized by liberal ideologies such as sex positive and doesn't really allow for nuanced discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:06 PM
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It's not misandry it's the blaming people for their insecurities and inability to understand where insecurities come from
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:01 PM
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Yes because whining and crying about something is equivalent to criticizing toxic behaviors. So are people not allowed to criticize toxic behavior. I am an advocate of free speech and and I believe people are entitled to their insecurities. I am not expect women to change or coddle my insecurities I am just pointing out their flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:59 PM
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I don't think women are only pushing this I think men have a big play in this part to it's just my experience here has been with women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:47 PM
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The algorithm is set up in a way that your feed and advertisements are related to your history which makes it harder. Plus people with Autism and OCD like me get obsessed over things we are not able to control. Also everything has a right to be criticized such as animal porn. I don't have to watch animal porn but I have every right to criticize things. Even things that people don't think are immediate threat should be criticized. A trans man made a post about how toxic male behavior is by produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:42 PM
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It's not women more a specific set of sex positive women. Sex positive men and debate bros are just like this too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:34 PM
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Here is the problem with our discussion is that our perspective on matter are entirely shaped by our environment. Our disagreement comes from us projecting our experiences are universal which I am guilty of doing. I apologize but the thing is dating culture differs from communities to communities. The way a community is shaped and functions affects dating norms and culture. I am not demonizing women who get into casual sex I just don't want to date those women and I believe that is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:09 PM
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I am not saying that women actually are saying these things but more so they are giving me these impressions by minimizing and demonizing male insecurities and insecurities in general because I have seen them being toxic towards women with insecurities as well. I have seen women say women with higher number of sexual partners make better partners than women or men with lower number of partners, and say stuff like they would have casual sex with hot chads and settle for nerdy men which isn't a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:06 PM
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That's bull shit because that ignores social conditioning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:57 PM
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Exactly 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:56 PM
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Ok bro you win idc anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:39 AM
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Wow everyone here is just a toxic asshole don't mind them op let them wallow in their acid pool that is all they can do. Why are we even here honestly allpill debates is much better place than this. I don't even know why I am here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:36 AM
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You are a man? That explains the venom all too well
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:32 AM
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How is this example of substance You are just making me out to be this malicious man for you to target against. I know how you are using your tactics to make me look bad so you appear holier than thou
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:30 AM
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Yes let's all blame the individual and not the toxicity of this environment. Yes I am sort for ignoring the elephant in the room and blaming individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:23 AM
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I don't need to defend anything you have said nothing of substance. You are just making me out to be this malicious man for you to target against. I know how you are using your tactics to make me look bad so you appear holier than thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:22 AM
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This is said by one user named ROBY "Fascinating. The first sentence is minimising your bad take. The second is throwing out a possible excuse for your bad take. The third is an attempt at contrition and a will to do better. The fourth is a response to an argument nobody made. The fifth however makes no sense. And five I know about feminism and never did I say I am against feminism as a whole in my post. You didn't? You read a feminist article defending some terrible behaviour, but you're cool w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:16 AM
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You are a real snake aren't you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:15 AM
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It's not voices that you disagree but voice that causes you pain. I don't expect them all to change. I want people to criticize them and people especially the youth to stay away from them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:14 AM
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I don't dislike all women just the annoying ones on the internet. Two I have OCD and I get Obsessed over thing I don't have control over one of these intrusive thoughts is women are all evil cheater and blah. Three I am getting better and have met good women online. Four people have right to call out on the toxicity of others even if it hurts their feelings. And five I know about feminism and never did I say I am against feminism as a whole in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:47 AM
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Let me tell you the reality, I grew up in romantic media I grew up believing sex is romantic activity exclusively like kissing. But if people are having casual sex then and culture push to normalize it, it threatens the hegemony of the culture we are attached to and invokes fears on extinction of our culture. That's where our insecurities come from not that you care. I doubt you will even understand us. Yes it might seem like monogamy still exist and coexist with casual sexbit casual sex prolong…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:40 AM
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You are proving my point here you know that right. You are strawmanning me and running with assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:36 AM
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Yeah but I can know how I feel and I wouldn't feel very connected with women who engages in casual sex and I am sure hell not the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:35 AM
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I never said women who have casual sex can't form long-term commitment I am saying it's hard to feel connection with a women who have had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:34 AM
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Because I mainly interacted with the women on here. Plus.i expected the men to be toxic I was raised in progressive environment where we were taught about toxic behavior of men. So I am shocked women are toxic which had bigger impact on me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:32 AM
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But people shame men for having these insecurities and you folks say inexperienced people make bad partners and people have been virgin shamed including women. I met a women who had casual sex because she believed men only dated women with experience and she regretted her encounter. Are you going to deny this reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:30 AM
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Also how do we know it will still be as intense compared to women who never had casual sex and knew she wanted romantic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:24 AM
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Not all men engage in casual sex some of us just want romantic relationship why do we have to be with women who doesn't have that same value
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:23 AM
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This you pushing your ideology onto us though, we just don't want to date a women who has casual sex why is that such a big deal with you ladies like come on. Stop coercing us into relationships we don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:22 AM
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Thank you! I will give them a watch
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 06:07 AM
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When I meant pure pleasure I am talking about instant gratification like low level pleasure as Mill puts it in is utilitarian argument. You are making my point though, the fact she feels pleasure from connecting with someone on deep level and building attachment is why I don't care if she has sex with a boyfriend because she sees sex exclusively as romantic activity compared to a women who can see sex a purely a trivial activity for short term gain and leaves people repeatedly. Men aren't insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:04 AM
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Yeah this is what I mean like how toxic people can hurt us online isn't our fault nor is it our fault for complaining but rather it's the toxic people who hurt who should be held responsible and called out. We shouldn't be pressured to work on ourselves when the toxic people are let go so easily without criticism. Don't worry I have met some cool women online who is helping me out and I have seen some movies that helped me develop empathy. This isn't about men vs women this is about how people l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:48 AM
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Thank you for understanding where I am coming from
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 05:40 AM
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No it's not a one side issue I agree but majority of the toxic encounters I had were women. The articles I read were written by women, the women online have been toxic to me,and lack of women irl contributed to me making this post. I see your point but the thing is this more than hyperfixation of toxic women this is also about us letting these toxic women get away so easily. Don't you think they deserve criticisms. I am more than willing to criticize toxic men and I think women should and some h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:38 AM
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I mean other subreddits too and discord as well. I am not saying all women on the internet are toxic just the ones I had terrible experience with. Someone online have good morals and are compassionate. They are the reason why I want to overcome my toxic mindset because they are empathetic and understanding. I get it's a debate sub but like you all don't have to be toxic. I had disagreement with women before but none of us ended toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:20 AM
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I never made that argument nor have I ever said all women are bad or women on line lol. The fault of women radicalism is not on her, what lmao. It's her horrible experience. Even another purplepill post talks about this phenomenon. They were trans guy and talks about how men shitty behavior is explained through social system. But no liberals like to see the world as collections of parts independent and disconnected from eachother and blame the individual for all their problem instead of analyzin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:14 AM
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Well actually a women posted on twoxchromosome about how she hated men because of her interaction with men online. But she said she was getting better. I empathize a lot with these women who are scared to date men because of their bad experience or who developed toxic mindset and or fears from trauma. I can understand they are hurt and I used empathetic listening to understand them and support their development. Heck I even provided support to a women who cheated on her boyfriend and I want to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:55 AM
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I told you from my post and comment, do you feel like I am not explaining properly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:41 AM
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You know you are proving my point right you just built a strawmans and running with it. You clearly have no idea what I am even arguing here or what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:39 AM
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Yeah I suppose I would be interested in watching those videos. But I am not sure they go indepth about the issues with sex positivity and hookup culture. I made a post critiquing hook up culture. I understand where you are coming from but the issue is that people are refusing to have intelligent conversation about hookup culture and sex positivity. Yes Andrew Tate is an immediate threat but these other cultural phenomenons could have a lasting long impact.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 04:37 AM
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Because you guys project your ideology onto us and refuse to understand other people don't see the world in the same way as you do. I feel like you refuse to understand our world views all together which makes it hard to have genuine conversation. You talk like you all don't have insecurities or you easily overcame them and expect us to get over them. You blame our insecurities for our dating preferences. You all strawmans us all the time it's frustrating. Like when I was telling someone virgini…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:32 AM
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Pragmatis or pessemist. Do you sincerely believe you are ok with how people behave on the internet and in the real world. Do you enjoy the toxicity that exist in this world why else are you blaming us for not putting up with it. Why couldn't you suggest me going to another subreddit without being a dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:17 AM
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I am not basing my opinion on every women I just don't want to be in a relationship with a women who has casual sex. I don't understand how that is malicious. A women with a high sex drive doesn't need to engage in casual sex so I am not sure why you think this. A women can be in a romantic relationship and have high sex drive. A women in a romantic relationship is sexual being in fact don't people in romantic relationship have sex more frequently than people who have casual sex? Good sex is sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:15 AM
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I think it's a good think calling men out on their toxic behavior but the problem is that these people are demonizing insecurities not critiquing attitudes and mindsets or understanding where these attitudes and behavior come from. They are pushing hookup culture rhetoric like we need sleep around to get it of our system or young adults are incapable of serious relationship can affect the mind of a young individual. That is my concern really
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:04 AM
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So you are one of those people who considers anyone complaining to be whining and just likes to demonize people. I have grounds for complaining just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Your attempt at mocking me like this isn't a very Christian behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:58 AM
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They are not breaking TOS but don't you think an online community should be called out for their toxicity instead of keeping them under a rug
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:54 AM
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Here is the problem you are still focused on the individual I am talking about social phenomenon. Why is it our responsibility to get better when we didn't cause it. It's our choice if we want to get better or not but the people who caused our pain should be held accountable. It's is societies responsibility to build a more trusting society. Do you honestly believe in a society of thieves one should just trust someone and it's their problem for not trusting someone instead of the entire society …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:53 AM
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Yeah but that doesn't not excuse the toxicity of the people on the internet. If a there is a rapist community on the internet would we just allow it and tell people to touch grass?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:48 AM
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It's not our responsibility to get better it's other people's responsibility to stop breaking people's trust
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:34 AM
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Yeah just because you didn't get to experience with the women in here doesn't mean they don't exist I made same post in another subreddit and a women agrees with me so...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:33 AM
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But what if the thing is you cannot trust people at all from personal experience. What if not trusting people in general becomes normalized and super common than people who trust people. Is this because it's our fault for not trusting people or people who break our trust constantly and justify it repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:18 AM
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Thank you for teaching this term, I am going to add this book on my book list
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 03:07 AM
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No they are just shoving their ideology down our throats. Which is yes an exaggeration but it feels like so. To me she is presenting her advice as an absolute truth with no alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:59 AM
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Yeah so what, we are animals capable of advanced thinking we predict terrible things to avoid them. Sure we didn't experience a tsunami but the thought of one scares and motivates us to prepare for us. If she can't understand or worse refuse to understand his insecurities than she doesn't deserve that man in the first place. He doesn't owe her anything other than a polite break up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:58 AM
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So you think it's ok if men have madona whore complex in which a man keeps a women for sex and relationship and another women for just sex? I understand this a different than what you are saying but are you comfortable with this because this is how we men see it. Let me give another perspective in relationship the pleasure of sex is not as important than it is in a sexual relationship. Because if sex isn't good in sexual relationship what's the point right. But sex doesn't have to be that good i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:55 AM
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These women are indenial about their flaws and project their worldview on to others as if it's the truth. They are perpetuating a toxic culture on the internet which is terrible for yong men. This is why I don't like redpillers or blackpillers is that they refuse to change society they believe it cannot change which is stupid. I believe society will change and we can make it better. Have you noticed how all these progressives obsess about divorce instead of making healthier relationship. There i…
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 01:32 AM
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I understand why women are concerned about Andrew Tate demonizing women but the sex positivity movement is indoctrinating women too and we should be concerned about this
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 01:26 AM
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Yeah you do have a fair point I apologize for derailing. But can you see how your holier than thou attitude can cause people to be dismissive of your advice even if it's correct. You deliver your advice in a way you don't show your insecurities which makes it harder to connect what you say
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:22 AM
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Maybe it's not our sexual skills that we are insecure about maybe it's our world we are insecure about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:09 AM
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Both, we don't owe women relationships. Our false narratives don't come from no where there is a tangible source where they come from. Thoughts come from our experience and upbringing. Why should he be in a relationship with a women who downplays his insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:01 AM
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I have abandonment issues and those sexual relationships seem like she is leaving them constantly which scares me. With her loving her ex boyfriend she had intentions of ending up with him and it was circumstances out of her control what separated her. So in a way it makes me feel safer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:59 AM
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I work differently than most guys, I see my self as manifestation of romance itself. So what that means is like I enjoy seeing other couples, I enjoy people loving each other, and if I want to get in relationship I want my gf to value romance above sex. To me if she loves sex more than romance it seems like she enjoys leaving people for others. I am scared of getting abandoned. If she loves someone deeply I feel safer and more stable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:57 AM
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But you are coming from a holier than thou mindset which turns people off it definitely turns me off. Again thought replacement doesn't work mate it really doesn't. Instead men should go after women who have had similar experiences as him why take time and effort to adopt a mindset that feels more like you are just coping with something instead of finding happiness. Why do you liberals insist on us adapting to your world that's not fair. Why do you get to dictate how things are and how we are su…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:50 AM
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I am the opposite the latter makes more sense to me because humans evolved to seek delayed gratification more so than instant gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:14 AM
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Yeah I can understand what you mean and I totally agree with you on this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:13 AM
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I think toxicity towards insecurity is what we are seeing not toxicity towards men. People bash on anyone with insecurity regardless of men or women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:12 AM
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I am confused as to what you are trying to convey here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:10 AM
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So you support the separation of sex and romance than. The philosophy of hookup culture is to separate romance and sex and believe young adults should engage in casual sex and seek sexual variety to get it out of their system so they can manage healthy monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:08 AM
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This is why I am against hook-up culture it's just wrong in the sense it's ideas are incorrect and don't work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:04 AM
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Then he should dump the women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:00 AM
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Yeah buts it's like the madona whore complex though , women separate men into sex and relationships. Relationship men are insecure about sex cause they might be romantics but not good in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:59 PM
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Here is my counter argument yes she remembers her sexual encounter from relationships more but sex in relationships are more than about pure pleasure they are about connecting, being intimate, and bonding. They require skills a romantic can acquire easily while pleasure skills are harder to require. I was talking to a girl who cheated on her boyfriend and she said she was happy to have done it cause he was good in bed. This kind of shit hurts men why can't you women just understand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:57 PM
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Women in these subs forget about probabilities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:53 PM
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I don't care about the boyfriend because they weren't just sexual relationships they were more. That's leaves more room for men. What I mean is like if her past boyfriend took her for walks I can do that too. Its easy. It's easy for you to say this because you don't share our insecurities. Advices from secure people are shitty ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:53 PM
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I was about to explain this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:50 PM
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OP I made a post in my profile explaining my theory about hook up culture. I don't think it will exist if society wasn't so atomized and toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:47 PM
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No hook up culture is real it's not just women hooking up with men it's a belief system that sex should be separated from romance and that young adults shouldn't engage in serious relationship because they need sexual variety or they will fomo. After having many sexual partner they are able to settle down and have healthier relationship because they had experience sexual variety and got out of system so they won't be able to cheat. That's hook up culture, women denying hookup culture are disinge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:45 PM
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Would you say you engage in casual sex because of the lack of meaningful men or because you believe in the philosophy of hook up culture and separate sex from romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:41 PM
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Feminism I think
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:37 PM
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I would say number two because sex isn't that important to me in a relationship. I care more about getting along with someone more than fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:02 PM
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Yeah I think women have it worse when it comes to dating unfortunately. Yeah men like us don't get many matches or women wanting us but women put their lives in danger as I heard a man slammed car door on women fingers. It's pretty scary out there for women. But it still sucks for men I would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:51 AM
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What's up with these intelligent post relating to environmental factoring playing important role in shaping our behaviors. I didn't realize this sub can have intelligent posts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:43 AM
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OP I really enjoy reading your post because you analyze the social norms and modern human behavior systemically as opposed to parts disconnected and isolated from each other like the blue pillars here. I appreciate you acknowledge capitalism influence on toxic masculinity as again most people would not analyze toxic masculinity in a class framework like you did. I agree everything you have to say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:39 AM
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I would want to still be in a relationship with her and we still can do other things to make us feel closer with one another. All that matters is her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:05 AM
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Yeah that's how I would describe some of the red pillers who support hook up culture. I wouldn't say blue pillers give up but are resistant to change things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:05 AM
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I am not sure I thought working class wouldn't care about this kind of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:29 AM
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Wow I didn't expect working class folks here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:01 AM
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No it's just criticism of my interactions with blue and red pillers my argument is posted in my profile. I just talked about hook up culture as an example
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:55 AM
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What is this obsession with hypergamy I just don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:54 AM
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Actually emotions aren't really all that irrational. Emotions have an evolutionary function, like how anxiety protects us from danger
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:43 AM
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I didn't even state my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:30 AM
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You realize you are just proving my point here right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:26 AM
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Oh ok thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:08 AM
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What is paycheck to paycheck?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:31 PM
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Yeah because they have more things going on so they don't overtly depend on sex for entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:03 PM
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I don't even see working class people talking here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:03 PM
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I am sorry I didn't know about this rule
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:14 PM
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I am not a women but I do believe men and women are veiwing sex the same and have about similar sex drive. But the thing is that our ideas about sex are learned from our upbringing. So for example if a women learned about sex outside a romantic context they are more likely to engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:10 PM
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I am definitely a number 1 dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:38 PM
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No she is not justified in cheating as cheating is never justified. In her situation cheating won't help her leave the toxic and abusive relationship. It might even put her in more danger
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:57 PM
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7 crushes so far but hopefully more in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:37 PM
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Thank you!! I am not perfect as I struggle with porn addiction and OCD but I am doing my best. I think blaming women is only brings harm to women and ignores the real causes of the problem. That is what blaming women does, it redirects our attention from the real cause of the problem. From my personal experience from porn I think porn does play a significant role in how men sees sex and women. I noticed that I started to decouple sex from romance while watching porn which left feeling bad after …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:25 PM
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As a man I don't want casual sex but my theory as to why guys on here want casual sex because they were pressured into hook-up culture. They believe they need sexual variety so they can get it out of their system so to speak and to avoid fear of missing out. The other aspect is sex is seen as a social status symbol for men so men who engage in casual sex frequently are seen as high value men since they are able to attract number of women and have sex with her. I don't believe it's our sexual dri…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:28 PM
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OP the lack of relationship experience does not and I repeat does not cause resentment nor does it cause people to cheat. The amplification of FOMO from hook-up culture and poor emotional regulation is what causes those problems. Sure there is a chance your partner will have had more experience but as long as the difference between you two isn't massive then it should be fine. So what if we late bloomers don't find love, we just have to accept and tolerate that possibility. I rather remain singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:49 PM
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I think people who can regulate their emotions and stick with their principles do not suffer from FOMO because they can recognize this fear is irrational and that they don't have to submit to it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:41 PM
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Can you please link me to that study?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:25 PM
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Do you have proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:56 PM
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You may have a point but the thing is that with intention I believe couples are more likely to develop something meaningful compared to people who go in without intentions. I don't think it's very common for friends with benefits or one night stands to evolve into romantic relationships. Personally I feel like I am more attracted towards someone who has intentions of romantic relationships compared to someone who just wants sex from me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:42 PM
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Personally what I cannot stand on this sub are liberals who deflect any meaningful criticism with the phrase "let others do what they want" and purposely ignore the contents of my argument and parrot their phrases. They look at human behavior as independent and disconnected from environmental and social factors. They are more so interested in the moment as opposed to long term consequences when talking about human behaviors such as drugs and casual sex. It's because liberals benefit from hookup …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:33 PM
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Women and Men are broad identities such as dogs and cats. But within dogs and cats you get different breeds who come in different shapes and sizes. Many redpillers and women here talk about mainstream men and women since they are hegimonic. But if you travel to a tight knit religious community dating culture would be much more different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:18 PM
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Yeah but I think intentions important here if someone had intentions of having ONS and develop relationship wouldn't be as meaningful compared to someone with intention of serious relationship from the beginning because it shows that women with intention of relationship has stronger desire for relationship than women with the intention of ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:15 PM
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What do you mean by a lot of women? Are you saying there are more women who do casual sex than women who don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:12 PM
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