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That's the thing. The sky isn't blue. It only appears as such due to the wavelengths of the sunlight that pass through our atmosphere. This is literally the point I am making. Even, and especially, the "obvious" truths in life still need sources in order to be true. Because in many cases they aren't. So how about you stop with your ridiculous little fantasies? Saying something a lot doesn't make it true, sweetie, and not being able to provide sources makes you unfit for an adult discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:56 AM
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lmao, anyone who says "but everyone knows X is true so you don't need sources" is an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:31 AM
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yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:50 PM
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So far only two people have provided any sources. OP is also not upset, just arguing their case. You seem to have to make a lot of stuff about your "best friend" up in order to try and make them seem unreasonable. That's weaksauce, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:28 PM
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You think all rapists were raised by single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:05 PM
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OP asked for sources. If you can't provide any, don't be upset that OP isn't magically changing their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:03 PM
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I of course cannot speak for all men on the planet, but those in my life are all absolutely amazing people. They are genuine, they care, they are a joy to be around and my life is so much better for them. And to the men who are reading this: We might not know each other, but there is most likely someone out there who thinks the same way about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:07 PM
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Yeah but since when does "This person - of any gender - has social media followers" translate to "this person has never experienced rejection and if they do I laugh at them because of it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:29 PM
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It's never a good idea to make something up in your head and then feel disdain towards the people you made something up about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:17 PM
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Idk what you're on about. I'm an attractive woman and getting rejected is a completely normal part of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:04 PM
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Why wouldn't it be supposed to happen? Different people find different things attractive. Some people are in relationships or don't want to date. Some people just aren't in the mood at that time. Some people have other criteria that you don't meet. That's just life. Do you think attractiveness is the only important thing when dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:51 PM
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I am not bothered by rejection all that much. Yes, it sucks, but I don't start trying to blame myself or the person who rejected me - instead I simply acknowledge that things were not meant to be. That's life. There's no use in getting upset over it. Sometimes I might think the reason I was rejected is stupid (eg "You're too tall"), but people are allowed to have different criteria than me and just because I think the reason is stupid it doesn't make me any more entitled to them saying yes. Othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:36 PM
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I think there is some nuance here that might be difficult to explain. Being vulnerable is a good thing. Opening up emotionally and helping each other and solving problems together is what makes for a good and lasting relationship. However, I find that many men are not capable of being vulnerable in a healthy way. There are studies and social observations that basically say that women find emotional comfort in all/most of their friendships, while men don't. Which tends to make women more adjusted…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:53 PM
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No, I never wonder. Why should I? I surround myself with mature people - those who value friendship and those who have respect for their friends. And I think it's extremely unhealthy to put your partner before everything else. I EXPECT my partner to sometimes put their friends first. Seriously, you seem to have a seriously unhealthy view of friendship.
/r/seduction02/07/22 01:51 PM
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Sorry, but you not knowing people who say the slogan is no proof that people don't use it. I for example know plenty of people who do. I'd like a source on that 80% men are raped by women claim, because as far as I know the numbers are flipped. I've also never claimed men would commit all rapes and it's a pretty bad faith argument to try to pin that on me. Also, please, you do realize that feminists are actually the ones pushing for more support for male victims and to hold female rapists accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:29 AM
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Ah that's fair, I didn't have the context that she made a lot of comments here. People sometimes speak on behalf of a group and sometimes as individuals. How relevant and correct these things are depends on what these people are claiming. You can't really generalize questions of taste. "All women hate the colour green" is pretty obviously not true. But when it is about things like safety and respect, generalizations do have more merit. "No woman wants to feel unsafe" for example. Sure, there mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:22 AM
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Do you realize how hilarious the sentence "And men aren't a hivemind [either] yet you women constantly treat them as such" is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:08 AM
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Slogans don't come from nowhere. You can't argue that no one cares when right in this thread I prove that at least some people care. There are two things at play here - firstly, men do commit the vast majority of sexual assaults. Against women and against other men. We cannot deny that this is a factor and lying about it to make it seem like it's an equal issue doesn't help or change anything. Secondly - yes, it is completely possible for men to be victims of sexual assault. Both committed by me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:04 AM
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Does literally no one here understand what the word "baseline" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:46 AM
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One woman just told you her own opinion on bad boys. This opinion is relevant to this one woman, not to all women in general. If one woman tells you she's only into vegans, do you then believe that all women only like vegans and try to become vegan yourself? Some people like bad boys - many others don't. You'll never find the magical formula that makes you attractive to every person on the planet. Instead of being resentful that some people aren't into you, find out what makes you you, proudly p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:46 AM
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Women: We don't care about looks that much. Personality is more important and we love our partners no matter if they're considered attractive or not. You: Women actually hate their partners for not being Chads!!"!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:41 AM
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That's literally what I'm saying though. Being good and interesting is the baseline. Like that is literally my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:40 AM
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Again: Being a good person is the flour in the cake, not the cherry on top. No one want's to be around bad people, but no one falls for someone just because they do the bare minimum to be considered a good person either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:39 AM
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Actually reading my comment helps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:38 AM
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Yeah, no. Women aren't a hive mind. You can't listen to two things two different women say and then assume that both actually want both things and are just contradicting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:37 AM
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... "Consent is hot" is literally a huge slogan. Also, if you read my other comments, you would have seen that I argue in this thread that it is important to also value mens consent and to be aware that their boundaries are just as important. If you want to make claims like these, please at least check who you're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:36 AM
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Yeah, but what constitutes a boring hobby differs from person to person. Personally I can think of nothing more boring than boating. I'd gladly spend hours playing tabletop rpgs though. Other people would die out of boredom when confronted with even five minutes of Warhammer lore but would like nothing more than spending time on a boat. Different people like different things. You can't try to appeal to all of them, that's never gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:34 AM
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yeah that's called rape and that's not something you should strive towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:31 AM
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Do most women tell you that? Or do you have a huge case of confirmation bias coupled with some nice guy ideology? Also, being nice and being good are two very different things. I know a lot of nice people who are very, very shitty. Such as nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:29 AM
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god you wanna be opressed so badly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:12 AM
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Dude, literally, you're just pretending like "initial interest" means something very different than it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:02 AM
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Of course it means interest. It means someone is going out of their way to establish a connection with you. That interest can be lost before a date, but it doesn't change the fact that it was there initially. You seem to be confusing "is generally interested" with "definitely knows she wants to get to know you".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:53 PM
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yeah, what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:33 PM
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Yeah, because robberies, scams, etc only ever take place in dark alleys. Honestly, why didn't Bruce Waynes parents think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:21 PM
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"Probably" isn't a source my dude. Yeah, you're delusional. Also, if you get scammed, robbed or anything else you should just have taken responsibility for your life and stop complaining lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:15 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:14 PM
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where did you get the 5% from? And also, like, do you think a man only sexually harasses others once in his life and then never again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:46 PM
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I do, actually, because this proves my point, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:23 PM
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You don't believe that people want to be around good people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:20 PM
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It refutes your claims that women only care about looks and never give anyone except for the top percent of men a chance. A message means interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:15 PM
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Yeah, because being a good person is the baseline of what makes someone interesting to be around. It's the flour in the cake, not the cherry on top. That's why it's so hilarious that many guys don't even manage that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:14 PM
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I need a source on the disparity you claim that you claim exists. If you can't provide on we can just agree that you're full of shit of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:13 PM
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Gimme that source then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:08 PM
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Yeah. It does. Like, when's the last time you dated someone you thought was a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:07 PM
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How would you know? Did you ask all men? Do you think they'd tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:07 PM
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Maybe just try to be a good and interesting person ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:05 PM
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The article then literally refutes these claims. Fucking read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:01 PM
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My man, you obsessing over a stranger is YOUR issue, not hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:55 PM
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"Is it deception when this stranger who doesn't know me at all doesn't look like I want her to look like?" Are you listening to yourself buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:54 PM
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blablabla
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:53 PM
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Uh, yeah, I never said it doesn't do anything except making money? Of course it has to provide a service too. The quality of that service is the question - which is whats getting discussed here. Again: They are not designed for women. Women on dating apps are seen as the product. Yes, they are trying to get women to use the sites, but they are not trying to get them successful matches either - because then they would leave the site again and continue serving their purpose. I am a designer, pleas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:39 PM
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Nah, I'm hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:35 PM
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oh, found the incel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:54 PM
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1 in 4 women in America get raped in their lifetime. That's the opposite of rare. Edit because for some fucking reason I can't reply to the comment below: Here's some data someone else brought to the table in this discussion: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587671849/a-new-survey-finds-eighty-percent-of-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:43 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:36 PM
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I live in a city with over a million people, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:35 PM
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also, yeah, the point of this entire video is to show that dating apps are exploiting men for money. that's the dating apps fault though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:05 PM
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you clearly are not a woman using dating apps. keep making up random timeframes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:05 PM
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Consent is not redundant once boundaries have been established. Just because someone is generally ok with something doesn't mean they always are. You still have to make sure your partner wants what you are doing right now. You're deliberately arguing for men not having to ask about boundaries. You want to purposefully limit communication. Your argument is "Well, as long as I don't ask I can do all these things because she didn't say beforehand that she didn't want them". That's pretty fucked up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:50 PM
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You think it is possible to make 100% sure that a potential partner means you no harm and only has your best interest at heart?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:45 PM
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Ahahaha this comment is hilarious. My dude, just because you aren't into him doesn't mean other people aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:41 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:36 PM
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You are trivializing sexual assault by making it seem like it is possible to safely vet any guy and getting assaulted is a result of the woman not being prepared enough. That is victim blaming. I have no clue about the celebrities you mentioned, but looking at celebrities and thinking their lives are comparable to the masses is naive at best. Again, your view of how womens realities are are not based on reality. A woman in a bar might get approached a few times per night, if she is lucky. A dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:35 PM
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Source? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:16 PM
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There's no strategy here. I completely agree that women should be honest and open about their boundaries. Men should be too though. You don't get to refuse to ask for consent and boundaries and then pretend like you weren't at fault for ignoring them. Also, mens consent and boundaries are just as important as those of women and pretending like men can't get hurt just as easily is highly questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:15 PM
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ya thats why everyone involved needs to communicate boundaries. jesus christ you really just want to be free of any responsibility regarding consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:02 PM
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Reread this: Something being convenient doesn't mean that it's successful. Ordering takeout every day is also more convenient than cooking, it doesn't mean you'll get a healthy body though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:55 PM
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If you're a guy who wants to have consensual sex with your partner then yes, it is also your issue. Let's not talk about the other option, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:47 PM
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It is convenient not to have to go out or do anything other than opening an app. It is convenient to immediately get shown who likes you so you don't have to approach people who aren't interesting. It is convenient to have a profile that states the most important facts about you, so you don't have to explain them, and to see the same info on other peoples profiles so you can look for people who seem like you'd get along with them. Something being convenient doesn't mean that it's successful. Ord…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:44 PM
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Yeah, and you can be turned on and still not want to be raped or have shitty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:41 PM
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Rape isn't "poor sex" and claiming as such is highly ignorant. I don't think you understand the seriousness of sexual assault. I also don't think you understand just how awful and traumatic sex can be if your partner doesn't give a shit about you. This doesn't just apply to women, this applies to all genders. You very clearly have idealized sex to such a degree that you cannot comprehend what bad or even traumatic sex looks like. That is an incredibly dangerous mindset - for others and for yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:40 PM
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Well, it takes two to tango. Women having an issue means that their male partners have the same issue. Sex isn't versus the other, its with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:13 PM
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Dating apps are more convenient. That's why they exist. Real life doesn't have an algorithm designed to get money from you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:12 PM
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It sounds easy, sure, but it isn't. You think you can get sex whenever you want? Maybe - but how do you find out who is a safe person to have sex with? Are you safe going to a strangers house? Are you safe letting a stranger into yours? How do you make that decision. And even if it is safe - is the guy really interested in your pleasure or only in his own? What good does it bring to have sex if it is painful or really bad because your partner doesn't care? So no, it is not easy to get sex as a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:11 PM
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Yeah, I am going to respond differently. If I feel like I'm compatible with the first guy I'm all for him. Open and honest conversation is fucking hot. If I even get an inkling that the second guy is lying or hiding something he's out immediately. Also, the first guy is just as capable of making my life more fun as the second one is. You know, without lying to me while he does it. Smart people don't pretend they know others better than those others know themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:55 PM
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Oh, yeah, I fucking love having conversations about all kinds of boundaries, parameters, expectations and wishes. I think it's extremely unhealthy not to have those conversations and just like you I think the reluctance to have them comes from a fear of rejection. But in OPs case I highly believe that he does everything to make it seem like there is no need for a conversation like that. I bet he goes out of his way to act like he's completely love struck and into the women he wants to bang just …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:52 PM
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That's a lot of words to say "I look down on women who have lots of sex and also I think it's ok to lie or hide information to get what you want".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:49 PM
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There's a few things about this video that bother me. Before getting into them though, let's make one thing clear: Dating apps are not there to get you a relationship. They are there to make money. It never was their intention to make you happy. As the "If you aren't paying, you are the product" saying goes, to the people running those apps, women are the product. And men are the ones that bring in the money. These apps deliberately create this sort of gap in order to get more money from men. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:46 PM
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In the first case, no, because every person is different. Like, you don't have to sleep with everyone on the exact 29th day of dating them. Different people and different relationships move at different paces, expecting something else is naive. In the second case: Why would a woman who enjoys sex with multiple people want to date a sexually conservative guy? Most women in that scenario would back off as soon as they find that out. Also, if he has communicated that he is sexually conservative and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:16 PM
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No one should have sex if they're not comfortable communicating their boundaries to a partner. Those boundaries might also be "I want to try a few things and need to be sure you are into them. How can we communicate that?" Thinks like the red, yellow and green light system exist because of that. You don't get to just drop the responsibility of communicating boundaries and consent on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:09 PM
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Maybe you shouldn't deliberately lead people on to assume exclusivity just so you can get your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:57 PM
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While I agree with the last paragraph, please take a look at OPs other responses regarding your first two paragraphs. This is not about women being delusional, this is about OP deliberately lying by omission in order to trick women into thinking they're exclusive because he wants to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:56 PM
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"Sure I can, but I'm already getting it so why would I? " - "buhuhuuuhuuu why do people call me a jeeeeerk?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:55 PM
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It's so funny because his reason so obviously is that he wants to fuck people who'd never say yes if they knew the truth and he's genuinely upset that people call him a jerk for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:51 PM
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It's only a lack of action if you never even thought about that information at all. As soon as you think about it and choose not to voice it you are actively hiding information. And again: When you meet someone in order to establish any form of relationship, the form of relationship that you want and are currently in is not trivia. It is vital, basic information that the other party is owed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:51 PM
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how's she supposed to do that when you deliberately lead her on to believe yall are exclusively dating though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:47 PM
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Yeah, that's why people usually talk about things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:46 PM
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Uh, yeah, an active choice to not disclose relevant information means that you are deliberately hiding it. I think you're hilarious tbh. Like, "I deliberately hide information because I know it will affect me negatively. Why are the affected people mad when they find out? It's unfair that I get called a jerk because of that!!!!1!1!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:43 PM
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You're not making any points though my mans. Yawn. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:41 PM
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It is dishonesty if you are not disclosing information consciously in order to keep them in the dark about key aspects of your relationship to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:40 PM
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are you genuinely this stupid or did you just run out of arguments and don't want to accept that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:37 PM
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Oh but you understand womens brains? Because I am a woman and I wholeheartedly agree with burbadurr.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:36 PM
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You responded to me, not to that comment, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:34 PM
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Which is why you shouldn't give a fuck if someone finds asking for consent unerotic and still do it. Because it's the right thing to do. Like, if someone finds driving with a seatbelt unerotic would you stop wearing one? Also, many people do find asking for consent hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:34 PM
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No one feels entitled to anything. It's about setting expectations and communication. If you act the way someone interested in a committed, exclusive relationship acts and do not communicate otherwise, they'll of course come to the conclusion that that is what you want. This, again, can be solved by stating your intentions so no one has to guess them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:31 PM
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Uh, buddy, what? I genuinely don't understand what that first question is supposed to mean. In regards to the second one: Because blood type is irrelevant when it comes to romantic or sexual relationships. Your own wants, needs and expectations aren't though. They are the basis of all your encounters of this kind and your partners deserve being informed about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:29 PM
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Buddy, what the fuck are you on about? The issue at the table is men who don't put in any effort and never learn how to please a woman. My argument was that it's not about men instantly knowing exactly what works best for each individual woman, but about trying a few different things until they find something that works. Someone said that having bad sex once would be an immediate breakup, which I find extremely unrealistic and therefore questioned. You then responded by claiming that all women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:27 PM
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Yeah, that's an entirely separate issue though. This is not about not knowing how to approach sex, it's about sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:19 PM
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The solution to this is open and honest conversation. Establishing what all involved parties want and expect. Very few people are mad about genuine incompatibility of wants and needs, and those who are aren't really worth keeping around anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:11 PM
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Who are "the women"? And why would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:09 PM
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The often cited (or mis-cited) okCupid data or the so called "80/20 Study" refers to a statistic published by okc many years ago in which they illustrated if people are more likely to go for more or less attractive profiles. People love to use it to claim that 80% of women are only interested in the top 20% of men. Funnily enough, it basically said the exact opposite - it showed that women were way more inclined to like and interact with profiles of men who were less attractive than them, while …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:23 PM
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Yeah, there is a right way: Communicating, trying things out, going for what works. And no, OP said she doesn't want to have to give an entire instruction manual, not that she isn't open to trying out stuff until it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:18 PM
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You end a relationship because of having bad sex one time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:16 PM
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Yeah, no, I just still find it hilarious that your argument is "all men are uncaring assholes" and you believe that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:37 PM
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Yeah, sorry, the okCupid study that many people love to refer to actually uses vastly different numbers and says something completely different. Try again. And I'd love to hear your reasoning as to what "Real life" means as a source and how you quantify it in a scientific manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:11 PM
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That's a lot of words to say "I believe humans are not capable of higher reasoning and are instead only governed by their bodies. Also, I have no clue about cultural standards and ideals and how they play into perceptions of attractiveness."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:09 PM
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Uh, no, not really. Sex should be something fun and pleasurable for everyone involved. If it is done out of love - great for the people doing it. But that is not the ideal everyone needs to strive to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:06 PM
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Who exactly are these women who you claim say these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:00 PM
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How do you misunderstand a point this badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:00 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:58 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:57 PM
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So your entire point is "Men don't give a shit about their partners pleasure unless they're in love" and you think that's a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:53 PM
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Uh, yeah, because women are not a monolith and don't all like the same thing. A good lover is someone who asks and experiments and knows different ways of pleasing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:51 PM
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Uh, yeah, because flirting and just expressing a platonic like for someone look very similar. That is why we can't assume anything just because of someone's body language. It's totally fine to ask someone out because you think they might be interested, but you have to be aware that that is not a guarantee. You don't get to go "But you did X thing so you HAVE to be attracted to me!", that's just a dick move.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:02 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:56 PM
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I would argue that relationships like you see in movies don't exist - because they are very glamorized, idealized and not at all what real, healthy relationships look like. To be honest, I don't even want a relationship like in a movie. They are almost always very forced with people who barely know each other, with no real, deep respect being shared between them. That being said, healthy and fulfilling relationships absolutely do exist. They are not easy to find, because it is difficult to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:53 PM
1

Congrats, you know how you yourself work. Anecdotal evidence is no source on the behavior of men and women in general work though. Find me some empirical data.
/r/seduction20/05/22 02:26 PM
1

Source?
/r/seduction20/05/22 11:42 AM
0

Yeah, most women actually do have the same perspective. Which is why finding someone to date takes some time - you wanna find something you really really like, not just some guy who thinks he's the shit because he lifts.
/r/seduction20/05/22 10:06 AM
0

Notice how I never said you shouldn't change and improve yourself? I actually specifically mentioned ways to change. But there's a big difference between doing some introspection and finding out what parts of your personality you'd like to improve on and trying to be a completely different person who fits a made up ideal.
/r/seduction20/05/22 10:04 AM
1

"don't take dating advice from a woman" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say, congratulations.
/r/seduction20/05/22 10:02 AM
1

What points? Do you think I'll fuck that person just because they agreed with me on a reddit post? Wouldn't that be something lol
/r/seduction20/05/22 10:00 AM
1

Oh, someone is bitter. Also, yeah. "Find a look you're comfortable with" can absolutely include things like makeup, heels, etc. Those don't even have to do with gender. If you're a guy who struggles with acne it is totally reasonable to invest in some concealer. If you think you'd look better if you were taller there are shoe options for men too. There's no shame in that. Dressing and presenting yourself in a way that makes you feel confident and happy is a good thing. As long as you don't depen…
/r/seduction20/05/22 09:57 AM
1

Yeah because real men dye their hair in every colour so women who are into one specific colour will always be into them. Real men lie about everything because then at least they won't be unattractive for their true personality. Also, liking yourself is feminized now. Who would have thunk?
/r/seduction20/05/22 09:51 AM
2

Oh, no, being single isn't a bad thing. Your attitude sure is though.
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:38 PM
1

I can tell why you're single
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:13 PM
1

or maybe because you think of them as basic ugly bitches. like, why should they want to be with someone who thinks of them like that?
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:57 PM
13

Funny you'd mention that when I specifically point out things like "be well groomed, find a clothing style that suits you, build a visual identity that you are comfortable with" and "being yourself doesn't mean letting yourself go. Make sure you are open, friendly and respectful".
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:48 PM
1

Uh, no, if she said no and/or stopped it was right of you to leave it be. The problem is that you left without expressing yourself and are now lying to her. And why isn't it normal? Have you never masturbated with/next to a partner? It's really nice.
/r/seduction19/05/22 12:50 PM
0

Seduction isn't always the same though. Some people are here looking for relationships, some are here looking for casual date, hookups or friends with benefits. By far not everyone is practicing "seduction" as a hobby. Again, nothing wrong with it. Just a very different perspective on the topic.
/r/seduction19/05/22 12:48 PM
100

Real advice here: You'll never be attractive to every woman you meet. No one is. Everyone is into different things and while there are trends on what many people find attractive it doesn't mean that these trends are exclusive. Everyone cares about looks, but everyone likes different things too. I know women who are into short men, into tall men, into skinny, muscular, fat, blond, brunette, ginger, nerdy, active, playful, serious, whatever men. There's no sense in trying to fit into an ideal. Mak…
/r/seduction19/05/22 11:42 AM
1

reading comprehension isn't your biggest strength, is it?
/r/seduction19/05/22 10:15 AM
4

Bro, being unable or unwilling to communicate is not a cute little thing and will lead to a lot of problems in OPs life that have nothing to do with coming.
/r/seduction19/05/22 10:02 AM
3

perfectly said
/r/seduction19/05/22 09:40 AM
1

Ah, acknowledging that people are attracted to personality is toxic?
/r/seduction19/05/22 09:19 AM
1

I'm not though. I'm about the average hight for a man. I meet a few people that are shorter, but most are my size or taller than me. Also, how is it different? You accused me of only wanting tall men. I refuted that.
/r/seduction19/05/22 09:18 AM
3

I see multiple problems here, the most glaring one being that you are refusing to communicate openly and honestly. Instead of talking to her in the situation you just found an excuse to leave. Now she is trying to fix things and you are lying to her instead of talking. How do you expect things to get better when you don't speak up about what went wrong? Now, the other problem is that it is normal not to come every time you have sex. Yeah, sure, it's always nice, but it shouldn't be a must. If yo…
/r/seduction19/05/22 09:16 AM
13

congrats, that's the biggest load of bullshit i've seen in a while
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:43 AM
1

Yeah, don't try to talk to someone with headphones. It's a pretty clear signal that they want to be left alone.
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:40 AM
2

Uh, yeah, when you specifically go to a library - a place where people come to sit quietly and concentrate, especially on a silent floor - in order to try and chat up every girl there it's creepy. If you sit in the library to study and you notice an attractive person, discretely and quickly leave them your number and go back to minding your business no one would care. It's about the fact that this guy deliberately and repeatedly inserted himself into situations where people want to be left alone…
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:38 AM
2

No, it doesn't bother me. I'm on good terms with one or two exes myself, so I understand how it works. I also trust my partner - I think a relationship without trust is not one worth having - so there is no need for me to get upset about it. And I mean, yeah, sure, some people are gonna be bothered by it. That's the reality of the world, different people care about different things. I personally would be hesitant to date someone who says they cannot be friends with an ex. So yes, you might run i…
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:19 AM
1

It's almost like people like you for your personality, not for how you'd look like in a photo from a body builder magazine.
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:08 AM
1

I've been into many dudes that are significantly shorter than me. As long as no one has to step onto a box to kiss the other I don't give a shit about height. I've never rejected someone for not being tall enough, but funnily I've been rejected a few times for being too tall. So don't try to put this one on me.
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:07 AM
13

I would say that any person needs to be charismatic, funny, charming and intelligent to some degree to be attractive to others. I would not consider that a conscious effort though.
/r/seduction18/05/22 09:07 PM
6

Define "game" in this context.
/r/seduction18/05/22 09:03 PM
9

It's almost like everyone has different tastes and what you consider attractive in a man is not necessarily what everyone else considers the same. Like, instead of making up some bullshit theory that villifies women (not females btw) just accept that they are happy with their relationships. You sound like a very sad person.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:56 PM
6

I'm sorry, but your big relevation is that people have to be attracted to you in order to want to sleep with you? Buddy, that is a given.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:08 PM
2

I don't think that is scary tbh. Love is, always, a choice. You choose who you want to be with. Even if my partner gets a crush, they still choose to be with me. It's normal to find plenty people attractive, that doesn't mean you're any less faithful. Cheating is an issue of egoism and selfish actions, not of attraction.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:02 PM
0

I called him that for the way he was talking to me, because he'd rather dismiss me than talk to the girl herself. Men are absolutely allowed to have feelings. No one ever pretended otherwise. You are 100% allowed to feel sad when someone stops being interested in you. You do not get to claim a loss of interest is "emotional torment" though. Your aggression and escalation is not rational. And no, it is not leading someone on. What are you on to think that? Leading someone on is not being into the…
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:58 PM
2

I appreciate you saying that you are open to having a conversation! If I come across as annoyed it's because I'm multitasking, so please don't take it to heart. I do think you are wrong and am firm on that, but I do not mean to offend. Uh, yeah, I have flirted with plenty of people that I approached where I wasn't sure if they were into me or not. Some turned out to be, some weren't into me at all. That's a normal thing that happens. I never tried to seduce someone by making them frustrated, bec…
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:53 PM
1

We don't. I am not calling out what an inside joke is, I am calling out your bullshit pseudoscientific explanation for why women apparently like them.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:22 PM
2

Maybe read the original comments again and have a think if you are truly arguing anything of value here.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:20 PM
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Changing your mind is not leading someone on. No one called OP the bad guy. You're clearly too emotional to continue this discussion and not able to think rationally anymore. Go touch some grass.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:18 PM
2

yeah mate, I was with you until that "high emotional state" thing. Women don't love it because of that, everyone likes it because it's a neat little thing called an inside joke.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:13 PM
0

ahahahahaha sure mate. "emotional torment". whatever floats your boat.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:11 PM
1

Smiling back at someone is not flirting, it is basic politeness. Just because someone smiles at you does not mean that they are interested.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:04 PM
1

Bro, the first thing I did was tell OP to talk to the girl. Instead he hops on my dick because he doesn't like that I offered an alternative speculation on what is happening. You do not, in fact, own anyone an explanation. You are allowed to just decide that things don't work out the way you want them to. OP is free to ask for an explanation, but he doesn't get to complain about it before he attempted to talk to her.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:52 PM
3

Yeah, but general trends do not help you when it comes to winning over individuals. Let's say roughly half of all people really like blonde hair, and half like really dark. What do you do? Do you choose one, or do you dye your hair half light half dark? Or do you just keep your natural colour because you don't see a need to change yourself in order to attract people when there are plenty who like your natural hair as it is? Finding someone who likes you is a game of chance and people do not like…
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:48 PM
2

Sorry my dude but it literally just seems to me like they got distracted, you randomly left a completely normal conversation and they are just trying to figure out what happened at the next possible time.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:33 PM
53

I'd love to see even one source for any of your claims that does not come from a pick up artist website.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:26 PM
1

You don't know her perspective. You have no clue at all what happened and only have OPs very limited perspective on the topic. She never told the guy she wanted anything from him. And even if she wanted to at some point she is allowed to change her mind. OP is self centered because he refuses to realize that his own perspective is limited and that there is context that he doesn't know.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:24 PM
3

That's the way people should feel about this issue. Someone cheating on you reflects badly on them, not you.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:21 PM
0

I think this might be a problem of your perception. What do you perceive as cold and uninterested and what do you perceive as trying to grab your attention?
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:19 PM
1

That's perfectly reasonable. I think a lot of men are "obsessed" with dating not because of the dating itself, but because they crave validation. The language we use to talk about the topic reflects that - high value, low value, playing the game, etc. But honestly? I don't think that's doing anyone any favours. Do what makes you happy. If you are happy while dedicating a lot of time to gaining the attention of many different people, more power to you. If you realize that attention from beautiful…
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:11 PM
1

If you are dealing with mental health issues dating should not be the first thing on your mind. You should not determine your value based on your success with dating. You are going through rough times, take care of yourself first and make sure that you are in a good place. Try and find a therapist who you can talk to. Therapy is great at helping you sort through the different aspects of your life that you are unhappy with and it helps you form positive connections with yourself. Right now you ar…
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:03 PM
1

Jesus Christ, your level of reading comprehension is truly concerning.
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:53 PM
3

Except that there is no way to tell what these women want and you cannot be what all of them want simultaneously, let alone be yourself.
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:16 PM
1

Yeah no, it doesn't really matter if you say it with a laugh or not. You're still clearly trying to make her feel off-balance and frustrated. You can banter with someone and be playful without actively trying to make them feel frustrated. Also, if someone tells me they think we don't get along, I leave them be. Why would I want to be with someone who expressed that he wasn't enjoying himself?
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:15 PM
1

Sometimes people have fantasies that they don't need or want to become a reality. That is one possible reason. And no, it wasn't her intention. She didn't approach you in order to sleep with you. She has every right to feel like you only talked to her because you wanted sex. I'm sorry, but you sound pretty immature and self centered. Please take a step back and reflect on the situation.
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:09 PM
3

Honestly, there is nothing unusual about your situation. Meeting someone who's perfect for you takes a while and it is completely normal to have to meet quite a few people until you find someone you really click with. You don't need to do anything differently, just take your time. However, I have to warn you about something: You say you feel lonely a lot and are hoping that a relationship will change that. Don't. A single person cannot be there for you always and fix all of your problems. It is …
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:07 PM
2

She didn't. She didn't approach you. She voiced a fantasy privately to her friends. One of the friends was the one to approach you, not her.
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:03 PM
0

And it still doesn't feel good if someone actively approaches you only to get to fuck you. Again, this is just my speculation though. Talk to her about it.
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:00 PM
3

Get yourself a group of friends. This has nothing to do with dating per se, but being alone constantly isn't healthy for you - and it's not healthy for a future partner to be the only sozialization in your life. Having friends will also help you with recognizing the signals others are sending. They can play wingman/-woman for you and create opportunities so you can get over that first hurdle.
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:59 PM
2

"it creates tension and puts the girl in a position to defend herself" "And when she responds in a frustrated way you can say "see? Thats what i mean" or "yeah i knew you and i wouldn't wouldn't get along"" How is that not negging?
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:55 PM
1

It's upsetting if you think that someone doesn't actually like you and just puts up with you because they want to get sex.
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:54 PM
6

Uh, if she found out that you started talking to her more because you knew she was interested in you then it is likely that she got upset about that. Think about it, from her perspective it seemed like you only talked to her in order to get some. This is just speculation though. Just as your interpretation is. Go and talk to her, have an open and honest conversation about what both of you want and where you went wrong. Maybe she'll be interested again if you talk it out, maybe she won't and you …
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:48 PM
2

Yeah, that's called negging and makes women think you're shitty to talk to.
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:21 PM
3

You're 16. It's perfectly normal if you never had a girlfriend at that age and no sign of anything being wrong. If you are worried about how you come across to others, ask some trusted friends and family if you have any bad qualities that you can work on. They can help you way, way more than any stranger on the internet could.
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:40 PM
-5

I'm sorry, but I find it difficult to respect advice from someone who sees picking up women as a hobby. It's not a wrong thing per se, but it means that you are approaching the topic from a very different perspective than most people. This means that any advice you give is tailored to your worldview and not necessarily to that of others.
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:07 PM
4

for sure mate, for sure
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:04 PM
6

You get it. No one will ever be attractive to everyone else and it is a fools errand to try to be. Just be what makes you happy - eventually you'll meet people that are looking for exactly what you are.
/r/seduction18/05/22 12:30 PM
2

That's absolutely reasonable. You're looking for someone who will be with you for years and make your life better just by being in it. That is not something you can find easily or immediately. It's gonna take time to meet someone who is right for you and who you are right for. Don't stress too much about it - dates can and should be fun, even if they don't lead anywhere!
/r/seduction18/05/22 12:28 PM
1

As long as you don't make it into a big issue it really isn't one. Yeah, sure, some people want an experienced partner and that is fine, but many others do not care for experience.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:25 AM
3

Yeah, sorry, the second line would be an instant end to the conversation or date. That's the creepiest shit ever.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:22 AM
2

Maybe go for actual conversations instead of cycling through a script like a badly coded NPC.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:21 AM
2

Why do you say that then? You clearly don't actually mean it. Do you just hope that one day a woman is gonna take her clothes off after hearing that statement? What exactly do you plan on achieving with it?
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:20 AM
1

Nah, don't worry, you're perfectly normal. Many guys feel the same way you do, the minority that wants to fuck anything that moves is just a very loud one, especially in places like this.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:19 AM
1

We are talking about men treating women as subhuman and all you are concerned about is if you can get a girlfriend or not. You do realize that makes you way, way more unattractive than your height ever could?
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:11 AM
1

So you go on a thread discussing that women should be and want to be treated like people and not like objects and aren't interested in men who disrespect them and decide to instead make it about how you, personally, feel like you've been rejected for your looks. That is a pretty ignorant thing to do.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:56 AM
1

Yeah no, I got that, don't worry. I still don't see what that comment is supposed to mean though.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:37 AM
1

Well, you don't sound bitter at all. What do you want to achieve with that comment exactly?
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:11 AM
1

Yeah mate, you do not understand stuff like that without researching how abusive relationships work. Hint: Abusive people are very good at faking respect and decency until it is too late.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:08 AM
0

Sorry, but using terminology that originated from pseudoscientific bogus in the same context as people who believe in that bogus do and then claiming that it has, in fact, nothing to do with it is laughable. But yeah, please don't talk to me. It's not a great loss.
/r/seduction17/05/22 08:35 PM
0

Yeah, why wouldn't I?
/r/seduction17/05/22 08:32 PM
0

I treat strangers differently than friends and people I like differently than those I dislike, but I do not treat people differently based on their gender.
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:30 PM
2

Be careful with absolute statements like that and don't believe everything you are told here. There are genuinely nice and helpful people but also those with very weird agendas and understandings of the world that do not match reality. Some girls have a lot of sex, others don't. Just as some guys have a lot of sex and others don't. Averages do not help you determine what the individual people you are interacting with are like.
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:28 PM
1

Copy pasting this: Yeah, no. The basis of the alpha/beta/etc theory was a study done on wolves raised in captivity. The study was completely wrong and had no basis in reality. The guy who did the study himself regrets it deeply, as it furthered a completely wrong understanding of wolf dynamics. Taking this completely wrong information and translating it from wolf to human behavior is the stupidest possible thing you can do.
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:17 PM
1

Yeah, no. The basis of the alpha/beta/etc theory was a study done on wolves raised in captivity. The study was completely wrong and had no basis in reality. The guy who did the study himself regrets it deeply, as it furthered a completely wrong understanding of wolf dynamics. Taking this completely wrong information and translating it from wolf to human behavior is the stupidest possible thing you can do.
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:16 PM
1

Uh, no, the ideology is not true. That is the whole point. It's a bullshit made up dogma that was never scientifically accurate and still got disproven.
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:35 PM
0

Why do I need evidence? ahahahahaha what mate? Yeah sure, no one needs evidence for anything. Hey, if you send me all your money you're gonna win the lottery tomorrow. Just do it. It's gonna happen. You don't need any evidence to believe this, just send me your money!
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:15 PM
6

Yeah, which is why my comment is not about what makes someone fall for you. It's about the fact that no one wants to deal with you if you don't show basic respect and human decency.
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:06 PM
1

what
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:04 PM
0

Give me literally one piece of evidence that supports your claim. I can just as easily say that every single group of friends likes to fart at each other as a greeting, but without evidence it's just a load of bullshit.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:46 PM
4

Not only is this horrible to read, I also wouldn't trust advice from someone who believes in the little fantasy of "alpha males" if my life depended on it.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:41 PM
1

Your friends can't be that good if they treat men like that. And I would like to have any kind of evidence for your claim that every friend group is like that.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:27 PM
1

Yeah, no, but sorry, your shitty friend group is not an universal thing.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:52 PM
1

I'd also really like to know tbh
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:52 PM
21

Uh, yeah. Of course they still might reject you. Because treating them of people is literally the least you can do, not the super awesome thing that makes you better than everyone else. You don't fall for someone just because they act like every person with respect and decency acts.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:36 PM
2

I hate to have to type this, but this is the one instance where "not all men" is the correct answer.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:16 PM
18

I really don't think it's about the hand holding.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:15 PM
4

No, I am exactly like other girls. Which is why I find your argument weird.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:14 PM
1

There's a big difference between "I don't want the person I'm into to not return my affection" and "It is shameful to be in the friendzone". Usually you are friends with people because you think they are cool and interesting and nice and you enjoy spending time with them. Usually these are also the reasons you approach someone with romantic interest. You do not need a romantic relationship with them to enjoy the things that make them a good friend.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:56 PM
4

On what?
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:52 PM
28

That's a really good way of describing it!
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:50 PM
10

Why lol
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:49 PM
4

The gay ones are pretty into me, I have to say.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:48 PM
1

What reason is that? Also, no, no one I know finds it shameful. You might not want to be friends, that's your choice. Don't generalize though.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:47 PM
8

I'm not even a guy my bro my dude my pal my friend my man
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:47 PM
9

Yeah, sure, I 100% believe that.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:41 PM
1

Why should he not?
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:38 PM
1

uh... an actual friendship? what are you on about?
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:33 PM
7

I am. He's also good friends with his ex.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:28 PM
1

Yeah, by walking over and asking for her number. That is not a deep romantic connection, that is a first meeting.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:26 PM
1

I mean, there's a big difference between liking dating and sex and saying misogynistic stuff. You can be "a guy who wants women" without being misogynistic.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:21 PM
4

Do women want that? Because seriously, I have never met anyone who does. Who told you that? I and every woman I know likes it when a guy has female friends and hangs out with them a lot. It means he's open, respectful, fun to be around and knows how to keep a stable friend group going.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:20 PM
6

Her words matter a lot, mate. A no is a no.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:13 PM
3

You know, most people are capable of still treating people they are attracted to with respect, so why should it bother them to be friends with someone who finds them attractive?
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:13 PM
6

Literally what are you talking about? Friendship is no validation tool and I have never in my entire life thought or met any woman who thought that a male friend needs or should be "masculine and strong" in order for the friendship to have value. I also don't appreciate a person thinking they can "dictate" a friendship.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:12 PM
1

Don't ask her out at her job, that's rude because she can't comfortably say no there. Maybe leave her a note with your phone number, that way she can decide if she wants to call you or not? That would be the easiest solution. Do you guys usually talk? If so, and you get along well, you could instead just ask if she wants to continue talking in a more relaxed setting at some point and then set up a date at a cafe or something.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:08 PM
1

So like, what were the women you were with like apart from being "incredibly attractive"? What made your relationships good and happy?
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:05 PM
15

Treat them like you would treat anyone else.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:04 PM
11

Why should a woman care if you're friends with someone else who doesn't have romantic interest in you? Being friends with an ex also isn't a bad thing, it shows maturity and that you can resolve conflicts (like the end of a relationship) without falling out with someone.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:03 PM
48

It's about treating women as people, not as sex/relationship objects. Women can tell when you don't see them as a person and of course they're not interested in you then.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:01 PM
2

I mean, did she say she wanted to go to italy on a date or did she just talk about a general dream that she has? It's totally normal to be like "Oh man, one day I'd love to have a villa in LA and my own star on the walk of fame" and to entertain fantasies like that. Nothing about that says that she wants a guy to provide that for her.
/r/seduction17/05/22 12:58 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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