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Cleaning a house isn’t a skill. My SO and I also help each other. We are in STEM- I am an excellent writer so I routinely help with his grants and papers. He is an amazing coder so he helped me build a GUI for what I was doing. Our personal lives are the same- I have an eye for putting clothes together and my partially color blind SO cannot figure it out to save his life. So I match his clothes for him. When I go to interior decorate, I have a great eye, but a terrible sense of level, so he will…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:42 PM
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That’s why it’s important to look at the whole body of studies. More studies show a male bias in hiring and salary questions. Shit look at these comment threads and how many male “managers” (in quotes because honestly I think most of them are lying) say they’d never hire women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:37 PM
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Lol I know. I’ve been on review sections to hire surgeons and world renowned researchers. Never been blinded, but I’m sure in other fields where someone’s body of work isn’t as important they blind some of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:36 PM
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Yep. This illegal and discriminatory attitude is very real and all over this comment section. My boss (illegally) tired a woman that had worked for her for 5 years doing brilliant work for getting pregnant. A couple of years later when another woman got pregnant, she hid it until she was almost 8 months along to try and prevent getting fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:35 PM
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I literally couldn’t. If a man needs me to be his mother I will lose all sexual attraction to him. I want a partner not a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:33 PM
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Shockingly most resumes contain a name. Perhaps you haven’t applied for jobs yet and don’t know that? Hot tip for you: always include your name on a resume. Other than not knowing that resumes contain a name, I have no idea why you would be hung up on this detail. I didn’t lie. With identical resumes, women were considered less hirable. That was the core finding of the study. My comment was in support of a comment saying they felt that women are held to higher standards in the workplace. I provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:02 PM
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If you can’t bother to read the study I provided I’m not sure why you would bother to read my response here, so I’m not going to waste my time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:48 PM
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Oh my. You’re not going to be worth my time because you can’t seem to read. Bye now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:47 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:32 PM
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It is unsurprising to me that adults who think they have found a life partner and end up with a disgusting dirty slob who can’t care for themselves get irritated. Personally, I think they should just leave and find someone worth their time though, so I still don’t think they should bother arguing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:30 PM
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It is when it’s a research study and a resume is the only thing participants are presented with 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:29 PM
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Ah this comment specifically said yelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:28 PM
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That’s literally what my comment says dear. Reading comprehension. Anecdotes aren’t data, so trying to draw large generalizations from personal experience is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:28 PM
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Yeah I don’t know guys are so ashamed of admitting that they like violent sex. Men watch more violent porn than women- are they gonna blame that on women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:20 PM
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Hayden panettiere weighs 145 pounds Nikki Minaj is weighs 140 pounds and is 5’4” Tyra banks at her lowest weight was 162 pounds Katy Perry is 145 pounds The second I stop seeing men thirsting over them, I might consider this opinion valid. Most dudes can’t even accurately identify a woman’s weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:19 PM
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Lol your masculinity is incredibly fragile isn’t it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:13 PM
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I think the cultural definition of emotional is warped too. Most dudes I know who whine about how emotional women are have punched at least one hole in Sheetrock, regularly get in fights with people who offend them, and ask any partners to delete every man out of their contacts- anger and jealousy are emotions too. A lot of dudes have no ability to handle anger, jealousy, or rejection with any kind of grace, but then want to whine about emotional women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:09 PM
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Yeah I take 2 trips a year- one is usually a beach-relax trip and one is a hiking/camping trip. People act like I am the weirdo for it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:07 PM
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Yeah I couldn’t be with someone who is messy. It’s just gross
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:05 PM
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Totally agree. I can’t imagine the people who are so childish and entitled that they want to live in a space and have their parent replacement/partner take care of them. Jesus Christ clean up after yourself you nasties
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:04 PM
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I think many complaints here act as if the problems they are experiencing is the fault of the entire world or unique to their sociological subset. The complaints are often childish and self centered, plus they rarely care about workable solutions and just want to vent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:01 PM
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Adults with such poor self control that they yell at their coworkers or employees should leave the work force and seek counseling. The idea that anyone has so little control over themselves is insane to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:57 PM
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That is backed up by data. Women with identical resumes are considered less hirable than men (x) and in order to get the same level of recommendation from their bosses, they have to conduct about 2.5x more work than their male coworker (x).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:56 PM
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Eh I think this is to anecdotal to be useful. I chaired a study section for post docs wanting grants. Two rejected post docs emailed me after rejection and asked for feedback. I provided it to both of them. The female post doc (who’s grant wasn’t as strong and got harsher feedback) received her feedback with grace and asked if I had time to mentor her on grantsmanship. The male postdoc tried to critique my critique, demands his grant restored, and then threatened to “come to my office and finish…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:53 PM
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I have noticed that a bunch of men here appear to be shit posting or completely and totally ignorant. There are so many posts based directly off of false information. But I meant off of this very isolated sub in the real world lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:54 PM
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Divorce rates are at an all time low for people under 40 who have grown up in the most progressive hook up culture ever seen. And I couldn’t find any studies that show married people are less happy now than they used to be, but i would guess that the fact people aren’t accidentally getting married because of an accidental pregnancy (ie single parenthood going up) probably indicates that there are fewer marriages of obligation. Children raised by older parents are more likely to be financially su…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:52 PM
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I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t assume men cheat more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:38 PM
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With a prior vasectomy you probably wont be a candidate anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:23 PM
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That thousand yard stare you see in porn stars and stuff is because of trauma- it’s a ptsd reaction to routinely being raped for the visual pleasure of people trying to get their nut, not a result of all of the sex lol I’m telling you as a scientist that sex doesn’t change your appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:16 PM
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They’re recommending OP keep her body weight at under weight and explicitly said she should never be at a healthy weight
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:14 PM
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And probably still a cow. No one should be hurting their body for someone’s fucked up beauty standards. OP may want kids, and maintaining her body below healthy standards is a great way to make sure that doesn’t happen, not to mention the risk of heart disease, pancreatic trouble, decreased physical performance, and fatigue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:20 PM
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Please ignore this man telling you to damage your body to fit his beauty standards. I guarantee he’s a cow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:51 PM
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Don’t argue with the pigs. They’re just angry with their pathetic lives. A man of quality is not going to be concerned that you’ve had LTRs in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:49 PM
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Having sex does not in anyway affect your appearance . (Although orgasms can promote health hair and skin)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:48 PM
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That’s the whole thing about TRP- there’s a tiny sliver of truth that they manipulate for desperate people with poor critical thinking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:47 PM
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Not exactly. I’ve dated men that couldn’t match my ambition and men that didn’t enjoy debate as I do though, which is a little bit similar. They weren’t bad guys, just a personality clash
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:04 PM
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I know for a fact that being a man has its own set of challenges. I’m just willing to handle those challenges for the reproductive and corporate bonuses. The post asks for personal opinions, so maybe don’t read the comments if they’re going to trigger you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:02 PM
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Easily lol. Like if I could get the corporate advantages of being a man and suddenly not worry about being raped and murdered every time I want to jog/go to the beach/get a drink... yeah in a heart beat But I want this magic switch to also take the female socialization that trained me to be on guard against those things out of my head so I can enjoy my newfound freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:57 PM
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Geophysics and pharmaceutical research (for profit not academic) is about as white collar as you can get 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:55 PM
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lol trump controlled all three branches of government and couldn’t even build a wall. But keep day dreaming about how best to hurt the maximum number of people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:54 PM
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I’ve provided a solution to greatly reduce the burden of unwanted pregnancy on men who caused the pregnancy and the tax base. But as I’ve said before, I’m more into discussing workable solution than unobtainable pipe dreams. You’ll never actually get rid of child support or social safety nets, so why continue complaining about them instead of discussing and refining actual ways to reduce the burdens that work for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:52 PM
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Even if she doesn’t experience side effects, she increases her risks for blood clots, cardiovascular disease, stroke, and some kinds of cancers (although reduces risk of other types of cancers to be fair). Part of the problem with giving men a non-barrier method (condom) of birth control is that the side effects of birth control are so severe it can’t get approved. I look forward to the polymer based, reversible “vasectomy” that is in studies. I think that will be the birth control option of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:50 PM
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Yeah so as long as there are places like that, abortion can’t be the only solution. Where I’m at, plan b costs more than $30 lol. There was a study in Colorado where birth control and plan b was made freely available. For every $1 tax payers spent on that program, they saw a $6 return on savings in other areas. That didn’t even account for the fact that girls who get pregnant in high school are less likely to finish their degree or continue their education in some capacity. I try to make my soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:54 PM
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Yeah I’m with you. I see no reason that children need to starve because men don’t want to take any responsibility for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:48 PM
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Lmao I totally missed that was the point on the last one. Uh probably a broad guy? Like I know some women are really into tall but I’m more into broad shoulders, broad hips. There’s not specific features like a hair style/color, eye color etc that get me more than others. And tons of different vibes get me going- the hipster type is good, I’ve not totally grown out of my punk phase, surfer vibe, preppy, jock... yeah it’s all good with me. So I’m gonna have to say that being a big guy is the univ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 02:53 AM
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I think it’s great that some men are in touch with their feminine and emotional side. It’s not ironic that you’re looking for a place to be emotional and not find solutions. You don’t have to try and find real solutions to problems all the time. Have a good night and I hope you feel better tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 02:49 AM
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My implant failed and I got pregnant. Then had a miscarriage at 14 weeks in a state where abortion was banned at 12 weeks. The miscarriage didn’t complete itself and I needed a d&c. A hospital was going to charge me $2500 for it if I could prove I hadn’t induced the abortion (while I was literally ill from an infection caused by the dead fetus rotting). I ended up at planned parenthood and spend $1200 on a payment plan. I was a broke college kid and missed meals because of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 02:48 AM
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Lmao there there is no way to cause and IUD or implant to fail but they do. Men are responsible for condoms for the most part, and they’re the most likely to fail... But yeah who needs facts and logic when you can just have an emotional outburst.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 02:46 AM
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I work in pharmaceutical research. If you’re in academia you work stupid amounts. For profit? They kick you out at 40 hours. Most weeks I don’t make 40 because they do some event. My SO is a geophysicist for a major oil company, he’s the same way. Maybe 35 hours? But they’re high education jobs- I have a PhD he is getting his. So you’re right about them not being the rule. I just like to share because not too many people know about these high paying jobs with awesome work life balance and I like…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:47 PM
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Ignoring the fact that some people have an aversion to abortion, it is also incredibly expensive and not easily accessible. Do you do advocacy for women’s reproductive rights, since you feel so strongly about them? Genuinely curious because so many men on here do not give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:44 PM
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Birth control fails at an alarming rate....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:43 PM
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Texas, where my doctor required a consultation with my SO when I said I wanted to get a 10 year IUD, and he was concerned my SO didn’t know and may want kids. Also where a group of men are voting to make me ceros I g my reproductive choices a death penalty crime. Men have violently prevented women from entering those halls up until ~20 years ago. I’m not at all surprised that men are over represented. I’m unwilling to enter into a philosophical debate about every hierarchy on earth, it’s whatabo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:42 PM
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Dude I literally haven’t explained anything more because I told you that I won’t re-explain it again. Yet you keep responding?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:39 PM
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I apologize. I have been working on remembering that many people are emotions driven, not solutions driven at work, and should really be applying the same techniques here. You and I just operate differently. We both see a problem (the incredibly high expense of unplanned pregnancy). From there we go different directions. I’ve looked up the most effective and most cost effective way to reduce that (accessible birth control), and because that is scientifically the best way to solve our mutual prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:38 PM
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Love this list. I particularly like that you said a man who takes pride in his appearance. Personally, I am far more interested in a man who has good hygiene and takes time to groom himself and his wardrobe but isn’t a perfect 10 than a guy who doesn’t do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:25 PM
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Oil industry and pharmaceutical industry are both places I’m familiar with that rarely have to work more than a 40 hour week for “distinguished” jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:21 PM
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Empathy is a good one I should have added that to my list. I agree about expectations. There are some people who act good in order to gain something or avoid a consequence, and then there are people who are actually good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:16 PM
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Honest, thoughtful, ambitious feel like good people are good partners and good people are honest and thoughtful. Ambitious is more because I’m a highly ambitious person, so in order to have a good relationship long term, I need a partner that matched my energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 10:14 PM
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The Greeks are the first who said women were just deformed men. How far back are you wanting me to read exactly? Because I stated that prior to the establishment of patriarchal mythology systems women had a lot more freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:28 PM
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I didn’t even read your feelings because I’ve told you twice I will not explain for a 5th time what this social movement is for while you continue to be obtuse and miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:26 PM
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Every unwanted conception is the result of a man orgasming irresponsibly. Control your orgasm son. And read through this threads. “Legalize rape” is literally in several comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:25 PM
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Every conception is because a man orgasmed irresponsibly. I’d argue every unwanted conception is a man’s fault. A child has two parents, and if they don’t want to sign away their rights (a totally valid option) they need to contribute to financially and emotionally raising their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:24 PM
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Eh pretty sure it’s just consent. If you want sex without consent as many of these dudes do, you’re a disgusting pos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:22 PM
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God talking to you people is like talking to children. You don’t want reasonable, rational, or workable solutions, you don’t want fiscally responsible solutions, you don’t want solutions that improve life for society as a whole.... you just I ant to throw tantrums. I swear to god I’ve met more rational minds volunteering at a preschool than in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:22 PM
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Abortion is incredibly expensive and incredibly difficult to access in most of America (idk where you’re at tbh) and that is just getting worse as militant forces birthers pass laws across the country banning abortion before most women know they’re pregnant. The average American doesn’t have $400 for an emergency. The average abortion costs $2000-3000 and that is before you get into complicated procedures or travel. Make abortion free on demand and I would agree with you. Birth control definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:20 PM
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That’s absolutely a choice, and it’s the same choice women have...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:14 PM
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There is no point for turning women into the prize cow of their father or husband in any modern society. For the entire time that patriarchal religions have controlled society, women (and rich men to be fair) did not get to make their own choices about most anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:54 AM
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I’m really not. I’m explaining a cultural movement to try and expand men’s rights and improve men’s health, and you’re having a tantrum because you don’t want a penalty for punching Sheetrock.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:52 AM
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Yeah I feel like a good number of these were just make women peppery or make rape legal. I’m not surprised a good number of dudes on this forum are bitter and angry because they’re just fucked in the head. I have a moral problem with letting children starve because their dads walked out, but understand that is based more on my own moral code than some rational theory, and so I understand that not everyone will agree with my personal morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:25 AM
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That’s fine. Not every opinion has to be based in reason or reality. I appreciate the discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:21 AM
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Yes exactly.... women don’t want to be property of their male relatives. I am an adult with human rights regardless of any relation to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:16 AM
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Not particularly concerned about the other men and women who pay taxes for the privilege of living in a civilized society. They are free to move to an uncivilized place and pay no taxes if they’d wish
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:12 AM
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And yet you’re arguing against it? Men have unearned power over women- the power to make our reproductive choices, unequal representation in bodies of power borne out of violent repression over generations that create our laws... these are unearned power dynamics that men will have to give up in order to have an equal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:11 AM
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I told you I wasn’t re-explaining a 4th time. I’ve been incredibly clear. If you can’t understand t, I suggest you try slowing down and reading more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:06 AM
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To be clear my idea was intense, blistering sarcasm. But I’ll point out that women taking on the full responsibility of safe sex have significant pain as well. It isn’t like women don’t already have life long pain and side effects 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:05 AM
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Personally I agree. Here’s how I lay out that policy: Make birth control free on demand to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies to begin with But a man has to tell a woman 6 before the abortion deadline if he doesn’t want to be involved allowing her time to make arrangements if she doesn’t want to be a single parent. He has 2 weeks to decide. Or course this necessitates removing any and all abortion restrictions prior to 20 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:04 AM
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Yikes that’s a heaping pile of racism on with your sexism. But your opinion of eliminating casual sex seems at odds with a majority of men in this thread who seem to believe they should be able to rape women in order to gain more casual sex I see your goal: force women to shoulder the consequences of men being shitty in hopes she will pick less shitty men instead of trying to create consequences for men being shitty- why try and just get rid of the shitty behavior? The problem is that shitty men…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:58 AM
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As I told the other gentleman attempting to remove any and all semblance of responsibility or consequences for men, I suggest you give this theory a try in your own life. Go to work tomorrow, pick a coworker and demand they do all of your work entirely on their own in addition to yours. See how it goes and let me know
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:53 AM
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Because you’re absolving men of any and all responsibility for children they father and placing all of that responsibility on women. Generally speaking, if you take someone’s responsibilities and put it onto another person, most reasonable people will not call that fair. I suggest you try it in your own life: go to your colleague and demand they do all of your work in addition to their own. See how it plays out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:52 AM
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Exactly. We are all codependent and we pay for things that we don’t directly need but that benefit us all because we live in a society: like roads in Iowa and schools you won’t ever use.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:01 PM
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For the third time, please read more carefully because I will not repeat myself a fourth time, men already express many emotions freely. So this slogan is a call to express emotions which men currently cannot express without social penalty. This is about giving men a wider range of emotions that are socially acceptable to express. TRP was all about anger and frustration, so no they don’t fall under this attempt to expand how men can express themselves. No one is saying men cant express anger, fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:13 PM
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There is no reason to enslave or subjugate a group of people. It doesn’t benefit society. The more societies become egalitarian the more we see that. I understand that having to give up unearned power and prestige would be frightening for some men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:11 PM
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Which makes dating imbalanced in favor of men....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:09 PM
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Paying taxes for things you don’t personally use is the entire point of civilization. We in big cities pay higher taxes to make sure small towns have roads and schools. Childless people fund schools. Blind people fund street signs. It is just how it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:58 PM
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We had civilization prior to the patriarchal take over. There’s no logical reason to believe it wouldn’t have continued developing. The patriarchy formed well before our understanding of biology (thus the religious fear of masturbation due to preformationism). There is no rational reason to uphold the oppression of any group. Patriarchy isn’t useful to society. We’d be fine without it. There is no rational reason to use so much violence to uphold it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:56 PM
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I’m not even sure what your point is let alone if I agree with you. Men often express anger/frustration/jealousy over things they perceive as unfair. The drives to have men express their feelings are to try and get men to express emotions other than anger/frustration/jealousy. I do agree with the idea that men and women have different ideas of what is unfair. I’ve never heard a woman say it’s unfair for a man she’s interested in to not be interested in her. But that also isn’t really relevant to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:52 PM
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I don’t really see a problem with the system now. Men should have consequences to their actions. Women in these situations have the kid. Although clearly the best solution here is to snip boys at age 13-14, and let them reverse it when they’re ready for kids. It’d be a whole lot cheaper and more simple if that’s your concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:49 PM
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Indeed I do. Paul Dolan wrote Happily ever after as the largest data review of happiness trends over time. Here’s an article about it. You’re not wrong because I personally disagree with you- you’re wrong because you personally disagree with the facts 😂🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:29 PM
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Not really progressive at all though... Ehh the more I read on this sub about men seeing anything other than the total physical, emotional, and sexual control of women as oppression of their gender the more I realize that it’s a pipe dream. But it’s also clearly the goal of every rational person too. Unfortunately the irrational minds outnumber the rational
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:22 PM
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I’ll take things that never happened for $1000 Alex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:18 PM
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This is in relation to their unmarried fellows, not in relation to the other gender. Since we are trying to assess what inclusion of the other gender does, it wouldn’t make any sense to be comparing men vs women on these parameters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:18 PM
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Lmao why are men so obsessed with avoiding consequences for their own behavior and decisions. Gah you’re like a child wanting to run around and do whatever you want but not have it actually matter. May o suggest a video game?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:15 PM
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Women often pick up on people’s vibe. Your greatest desire for dating is to be able to rape women whenever you please. I would bet my house that many women pick up on your creep vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:14 PM
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Evidence shows that the patriarchy is too. The father gods were created to “kill” the goddess mother. One would hope that we are all rational enough at this point to stop vying for power and build society as a whole for health and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:06 PM
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The more I read about how obsessed some of y’all are with raping as many women as possible the more I understand why no one will sleep with you. Women can pick up on the fact that you’re a rapist POS...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:03 PM
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Why are men so obsessed with rape? Ever think that maybe the women who want pick up on that fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:02 PM
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I think if I was 100% truthful with the men I reject, I would have been shot 100 times over. So add to this that the answer must be accepted with dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:00 PM
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The idea of men getting to make women’s choices for them doesn’t seem fair at all, unless you’re one of the dudes getting to buy a Virgin I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:58 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:56 PM
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And so you’re ok with increasing child support to actually cover the cost of raising a child when men bail out? I wouldn’t mind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:55 PM
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I think if we could actually have an egalitarian society, people would be happier with the dating scene. If sexuality wasn’t moralized and people saw their partners as more than objects would help too (although that goes along with having an equal societies).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:54 PM
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Hot tip: when people say men should express their feelings, they are referring to feelings of vulnerability not usually considered acceptable for men to share. Men express their feelings and emotions of anger, jealousy, and hatred very well without implication on their maleness; in fact in many spaces being emotional in these ways is required to be considered a man. Sadness, regret, loneliness, fear... Those are the feelings that “men need to express their feelings” is talking about. We’ve all h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:49 PM
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The most heinous disgusting horrible content I see reposted from reddit is always from the red pill it seems. I’m not surprised if they’ve violated the rules but tbh I don’t know the rules that well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:44 PM
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Commenting a second time because I thought of something else Men who get married to a woman end up doing better at work, being happier, being healthier, and living longer Women who get married woman see basically the opposite: less success at work, less happiness, less health (physically and mentally), and die younger So from that I could say that women are good for men but men are not good for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:20 PM
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Childfree women actually end up happier and physically healthier than their child bearing compatriots. So maybe do some research. I notice this sub is filled with dudes stating uninformed opinions as fact...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:18 PM
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Yeah because historically men used violence to ensure they were the only ones allowed to do it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:17 PM
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Lol not true but ok. Early civilization was thought to be much more egalitarian. Back in the days prior to the established patriarchal mythology, most mythology was matriarchal, which indicates an elevation of the female type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:16 PM
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I don’t think either gender needs the other. I think humans are social and require companionship. Same sex couples are proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:14 PM
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Yeah I don’t want kids and don’t particularly like kids. If something fell apart with my SO, I would not be willing to date a parent. I believe if you date a parent, you have to be willing to stand up and be a parent and it just isn’t in the cards for me. I don’t know any step parents with significant financial obligation to their step children but I’m sure it happens on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:12 PM
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I feel like there’s a lot of social pressure right now for people to think monogamy is useless and want to be open. Personally I’m kind of relativistic about it I don’t see either one as inherently good or bad. It’s all about personal preference and our personal preference runs a specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:11 PM
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The idea of finding an adult clean slate is just moronic. The desire to have someone you can mold yourself instead of a fully formed human being to fall in love with is gross. To clarify I think you’re spot on, I just thinks it’s nasty. I think the clean slate bullshit is why dudes are so much more into pedophilia than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:08 PM
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I just can’t picture being happy in an open relationship. I know quite a few poly people and they’re very happy. I think the major difference is that I would describe them as free spirits. I’m not sure anyone has ever described me as a free spirit in my entire life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 09:45 PM
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I have no real interest in an open relationship. Dating is hard, finding people you vibe with is hard, I love my SO and it is so easy together. My cup is full I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 09:37 PM
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Men seem to have significantly more trouble with knowing a woman was a full living human being prior to him coming into her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 09:00 PM
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I mean I would feel bad about myself as human being if sex was the only reason I acted decent. I think that is a very pathetic way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 08:54 PM
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I mean you didn’t cite a single source and spoke in generic hyperbole so it isn’t like I can look anything up. But Nubia, Palawan, and the Khasi were all egalitarian societies with more female rulers than male, an high standards of living, and advanced civilization... To repeat (for the third time so please read carefully this time), my point was simply that toxic masculinity is not a prerequisite for human reproduction or survival of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 03:02 AM
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Eh most of that isn’t true historically but it’s clear you’re not particularly interested in accurate anthropology so believe what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 07:38 PM
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Can’t read the study as it’s in another language. Without knowing the percentage of sexually unsatisfied women, it’s hard to draw anything meaningful from the post. Even if we had it, there’d be no real way to quantify the source- for example, in men, watching porn is correlated with being less sexually satisfied. Did this study quantify that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 07:38 PM
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Standard of living was actually quite high. I’ve also never seen a study that discussed longevity of societies based on structure- i would have to look. Either way, the pint wasn’t that we should have one, it was that breeding isn’t dependent on toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 07:28 PM
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Evolutionary psychology and pop articles are mostly bunk. Enough matriarchal and equal societies have existed throughout history to dispel the idea of reproduction through violence as a biological trait. It’s all social. But your article does demonstrate that even feminists aren’t doing enough to try and establish social punishments for toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 12:59 PM
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Nope, not true. This is my research field. What you’re seeing is the comorbidity of autism and adhd which causes introverted autistics to be more outspoken. Female autistics typically learn better social skills than male autistics because the behaviors are seen as more problematic in little girls than in little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:45 PM
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There’s just such push back every time. The me too movement is a great example- feminists say we should hold a group that is primarily men accountable for toxic behavior that is damaging to society as a whole and it’s considered this radical crazy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:42 PM
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Yes I am. I’m in an LTR so I don’t want or need any guy to hit on me. But no dude can just sense that’s so they’ll come shoot their shot, I’ll respectfully decline and we will all move on. I don’t hold it against them for trying. Meanwhile catcalling is gross and I’m not going to be respectful of that. See the difference yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:10 PM
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I was flashed for the first time at age 8. Grown men started cat calling me maybe a year after that. I was a gymnast so I really didn’t hit visible puberty (boobs/hips) until maybe 12-13. It was after I hit puberty that boys my own age started flirting with me. But the men catcalling and harassing occurred long before then. How could I possibly be validated by things that were quite traumatizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:09 PM
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All of society is set up to reward men like that, and men aren’t just going to give up toxic behaviors because it is the right thing. I totally agree. Feminists try to force social consequences for toxic behavior but have had only the slightest success in the past hundred years. It’s bit disheartening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:06 PM
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Most of the dudes that hit on me I don’t want to hit on me. That’s not what I’m talking about. I respect a guy who comes up to shoot his shot. A guy who screams something about tits out of his window is not on the same level
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:44 AM
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Since I lost my virginity, about 5 weeks with a long distance SO. And then 3 weeks (after hip surgery) without the long distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:01 AM
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Catcalling is definitively just harassment by the meaning of the word. That’s all I was getting at. Men started flashing and catcalling me long before I hit puberty or had defined breasts. So perhaps you didn’t mean catcalling. Nbd I was just mentioning the part that I couldn’t agree with while the rest i did. Catcalling doesn’t sexually validate me because it happened as much to me when I was prepubescent as it does now, it happens when men can’t actually “see” me, and it really has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:54 AM
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Most girls got sexually harassed by adult men for the first time long before they had tits. If you had used men actually hitting on women instead of men harassing them I would have agreed with your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:16 AM
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Absolutely. Holding on to bitterness like this for 19 years is so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:11 AM
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Or communicated with her at some point in the past 19 years? Or try to appeal to her fantasies instead of just his own? Or stop hoping sex she had 25 years ago against her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 09:00 PM
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Yes! I can’t imagine wanting or engaging in pity sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:58 PM
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He said he gave her a bunch of ideas for how to spice things up and she didn't like them. He didn't say he asked her for any, not in any of the 3 subs he posted trying to find validation for guiltily his wife into sex acts she found painful and uncomfortable. Not engaging in sex acts you find painful and uncomfortable is not having an ego. It is having self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:01 PM
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Its such a Madonna/whore complex its maddening. My recommendation for therapy was honest. I think it would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:00 PM
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Or a simpler answer: she is happy with their sex life and has been for the past 19 years. She doesn't feel that they are in a rut and enjoys what she is doing. But we don't actually know, because OP didn't bother to ask her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:44 PM
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I don't watch porn. I tend to like rough sex so if I was going to watch porn it would be that. Too much of that is actual rape on camera and it freaks me out. I can't get aroused with it. My partner doesn't have the same hang up, but respects mine and doesn't bring porn into the bedroom. This guy doesn't seem to respect his wife's boundaries at all. He just wants advice on how to cross them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:38 PM
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He almost broke up with her last time they discussed their sexual history, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. However, never once in this post, any of his responses, or the two similar (but story kinda different) posts he made on other subs say he asked her how she felt about their sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:37 PM
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Exactly. I don't get why some dudes don't understand that they aren't entitled to their sexual partner's discomfort and pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:29 PM
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Yeah for his own fantasies which were all the same "type" of thing. It doesn't sound like he knows what she's into at all tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:28 PM
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Not being sexually compatible is such a different issue than what he has though. I think most relationships would be better if people were more upfront with their sexuality and willing to walk away from people they didn't gel with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:27 PM
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Absolutely. Porn has totally changed sex for a lot (not all) of men who now see it as a list of things that they want to do just to say they've done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:25 PM
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When I was in high school, I frequently worried about my boyfriend's past experiences. I'm going to give you the same advice I got then: Get a therapist. It helped me tremendously. What someone did before they knew you has no impact on you at all. The fact that your wife tried anal with someone else and didn't like it is of no more consequence than if she'd tried shrimp and realized she didn't like it prior to you. You have no more right to her trying anal again than you do wanting her to try a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:23 PM
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I already did. And provided sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:15 PM
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I don’t mind your opinion on a joint account. But you’re simply wrong on he basic facts of your argument. You aren’t the first to be wrong about every fact behind your argument and arrive at an ok conclusion. I’m just trying to bring some data and facts to what seems like a rather emotional (since it isn’t based in logic or facts) opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:44 PM
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I posted a study above. I’m not wrong, I’m sharing scientific data. Women who don’t wear make up face discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:42 PM
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Women who don’t wear make up are less likely to get hired for jobs, get raises/promotions, or retain their jobs. x
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:41 PM
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I think a lot of this is false outrage. Men are fully aware that there is extreme social pressure for women to wear makeup, but like to fake that this is some weird vanity project for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 05:05 PM
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The idea of a court mandate, which is what I interpreted the post to be about, doesn't apply to 96% of cases regardless of why they were posted. I am glad that you're comfortable with a child having nothing but bare necessities, but most people are not. The numbers are what they are, regardless of your personal feelings about them. Cite your source for those numbers please, because if you read the link, that is not how that number is calculated. In the 4% of cases in which someone else than the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 04:54 PM
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I think it is important to remember that only 4% of custody cases ever go to court, with only 1.5% being decided by a judge. The rest of the time, custody is a decision reached mutually between parents. ​ she shouldn't automatically get awarded 18 years of child support, which is often well beyond the amount of money a child needs It costs an average of $233,610 to raise a child for 18 years. The average payout for child support is $45,900. ​ I do think there are cases where up to two years of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 04:02 PM
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Generally, women's sexuality is considered more flexible and fluid than men's. Study 1 Study 2 Study 3 My personal opinion is that men refuse to drop toxic traits because there is no significant punishment for men being toxic. They aren't more likely to lose jobs, social standing, or sexual partners because society as a whole may not like these toxic traits but certainly isn't going to significantly punish them. Women are severely punished for acting in traditionally masculine, toxic behaviors, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:55 PM
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The only study I've found on this topic says the exact opposite of your personal opinon, so I think your ideas are likley not founded in reality. Study The present study examined whether illness onset constituted a risk factor for marital dissolution at middle and older ages. In our analysis examining the onset of any of four serious illnesses (cancer, heart problems, lung disease, and/or stroke), we find that only wife’s illness onset is associated with elevated risk of divorce. ... Article A w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:47 PM
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My [citation needed] was clearly a joke because your statement was also clearly a joke, given that women in the 1850s did not have marriage or sexual freedom, and were declared hysterical if they were aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:40 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:43 PM
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Do you see no difference between the two? If anyone calls me a liar/deceiver I am going to be offended. That is a pretty strong moral judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:36 PM
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So I went and took a loot at your study (didn't read the article) and it seems like maybe you have fundamentally misunderstood the goal of this study and its findings. The goal of this study was to create a correction for BMI in order to accurately reflect obesity, not to compare who is more likely to obese. The data set used for this paper cannot answer that question, and the data presented did not attempt to answer that question. The study has numerous limitations, some of which have been ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:20 PM
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