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CMVsupershotmd/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:22 PM
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- I know how you feel. I felt the same way before. Women will blame men for all the evil in the world but decline to give credit for any of the good. - A lot of women think men are their enemy despite the fact we have sacrificed other men - both past and present - for the benefit of women. - You and I both know that men basically kneel down to women and allow them to have an equal seat at the table - sometimes with a booster seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:00 AM
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If you're average looking but very sociable -> bigger city better If you're average looking and average social skills -> smaller town better I've seen a big difference in standards women have for men moving from a big city to a small town. However the options are of course less. On the other hand, the standards women have in the big city are higher but there are so many options that if you have good social skills you can get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:12 AM
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She looks 40 at least.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/22 07:13 PM
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Really? You've never seen women online tell men who complain about being lonely and not getting female attention to "fix their misogyny" and that they are not "entitled" to a woman? You must not spend much time on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:58 PM
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By 'personality' do you mean something like this? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0ScUyPu_jE If so, I agree. But I think a lot of people don't know what people mean by "personality" or "confidence" and they are picturing something different - hence why they think they have personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:39 PM
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I think you're right but I also contend that most people find the same things attractive. So I think it's reasonable to say up to 40%. Which aligns with the percentage of men in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:35 PM
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Very masculine behavior (I’m from the south). lol what does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:49 AM
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Marriage is an gift for men who get GOOD women. But for women who are not so good - it is a bad deal for men. Because ultimately the man is still most responsible for keeping a roof over their heads and providing for them and any children. As a result, men switch from being very low-standard when it comes to one night stands - to being much more picky and apprehensive when it comes to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:34 AM
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Most men who don't have friends don't have a girlfriend either - so how can women be blamed? Have you ever actually met a guy with no male friends but a girlfriend? It's usually the other way around - male friends but no girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:10 PM
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I suppose you could go for someone super religious. But even that doesn't really work. I know a muslim woman at work that is very careful about non-halal food and prays multiple times a day and abstains from alcohol - and she slept with our coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:40 PM
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Not giving up completely but decreasing the effort. I think a big reason is that pre-social media/OLD, more women would be receptive of male attention IRL because they weren't getting it online. Even if they weren't interested in a guy - they would be flattered at their effort. That's not the case now. Meanwhile, online dating is nearly impossible for average men. The end result is the "market" for female attention has significantly increased in inequality. In the past, 75% of guys could get a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:34 PM
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Sure. r/notlikeothergirls/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:16 AM
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Maybe for an asian guy. But asian mothers have a different standard if their daughter brings home a white guy. They are beyond proud and excited - as long as he isn't a complete screw-up (e.g. no tattoos) and is in some sort of education program.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:14 AM
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Wank banks were in the past before HD streaming porn. And even then it was mostly the domain of lonely single guys. You're trying to blame men of having a similar thing but it's not really accurate. Alpha-widowing and fantasizing of a past great sexual connection is a uniquely hetero female phenomenon. As for having faith in oneself and believing you are someone's favorite person - those are inspiring words, but not that realistic in 2022. Any 6+/10 woman can get her world rocked on Tinder by a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:07 AM
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It's not a problem actually because I hate my father.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:54 AM
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If women legitimately only find 10-20% of men worth it - then they have some serious competition amongst themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:28 AM
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There's nothing silly about choosing a life partner based on their lifestyle and personality. If anything it's more silly when women hyper-focus on tall height or race.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:53 PM
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If he's not going to share a woman - I highly doubt he's going to share a sex toy. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:52 PM
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Nobody is shaming anybody. But recently a colleague of mine slept with a strict Muslim woman at work who prays and abstains from alcohol. When she meets her future Muslim husband he's going to be deceived because I bet dollars to donuts she's going to pretend her sexual history is inline with her praying and teetotalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:50 PM
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Yeah it's called having standards. We also all can't date an Ana de Armas lookalike. Almost all men have to lower their standards - but some more than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:47 PM
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That is silly. Because virgins are very rare. And usually the only people who remain virgins these days are those who also have a concurrent physical or mental problem. So the best recourse is to just go for a low n-count woman and hope for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:39 PM
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Yes. Probably the over-excitation or nervousness gave him away. I've heard it happening to other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:30 PM
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From my understanding, the quality of the first kiss seems to be really important to women. As a guy, I never got anything out of a kiss. But to women it's supposed to give them a spark and if it doesn't they get disgusted and nope out of there. You didn't do anything wrong vis-a-vis not escalating earlier. If anything, if you escalated earlier with the same bad kiss, you may not have gotten to date 4. I'm curious to hear from women what causes them to like a guy (as she clearly liked you) and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:26 PM
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That is not the definition of alpha widow - missing some guy she met in her past just because he was super hot. Alpha - WIDOW - means she had a strong sexual, and thus emotional, connection with a guy. But like in the movies - it could have been an incredibly short-lived connection- maybe just 48 hours. And then she becomes "alpha-widowed" and Meryl Streep - who kissed her husband and loved her kids - talks about ol' 4-day Clint from 20+ years ago being the most significant part of her life. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:16 PM
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I agree. In fact for men (but not for women) living alone is a real medical risk factor for several mental and cardiovascular illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:01 PM
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You don't understand - the point is that hetero women universally love those movies. The fact that you and I don't care for them is immaterial. Women don't find anything wrong with swooning about an old past love even after marriage and kids. As for if my mother had formed a stronger emotional and sexual connection - she wouldn't be thinking about a relationship nearly 40 yrs. ago - that's exactly my point. For a lot of older men the hottest women we had is when we were younger (because the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:57 PM
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I highly doubt women go around telling their gf's that their new man is x height. It's just something that is noticed when/if their men stand next to each other. And in that scenario, the difference between 6'1" and 5'11" can be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:50 PM
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Exactly who they want. Especially if they didn't pair up too early. The few handsome alpha guys I know who are single in their late 20s to early 30s are also the pickiest mf'ers I know. Basically they act like Jerry Seinfeld on Seinfeld.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:42 PM
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It's my mother - I'm in my 30s. And that's exactly what being alpha-widowed is - not so much that they haven't had a single meaningful connection since then, but that they hold on to the most significant ("Alpha") connection for literally decades. Just like in the movies I mentioned: Kate Winslet spent 3 days on that ship with Leonardo DiCaprio but was harping on it many decades and many children later as an old frail woman. Same thing with Meryl Streep - 4 days with Clint Eastwood looking at br…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:33 PM
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Yeah, keep thinking Alpha-widowing isn't real. And then watch what's considered the greatest romance movies according to women - The Titanic, The Bridges of Madison County, The Notebook, etc. In my own case, my mom, in her 60s, still has love letters and a necklace from her boyfriend - from her early 20s. Men simply don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:41 PM
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Long story short - a good partner is someone who is already happy? How much ganja did you use to come to this earth shattering revelation? When's the best-seller coming out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:03 PM
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I'm going to guess that there are many more who like "gym bros" than who like "fluffy full-cheeked guys". Call it a hunch. This sub has a problem with averages. Someone knows 3 exceptions from their personal life and then comes on here thinking there's a uniform distribution of preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:31 AM
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Something like that - but that sub-population would likely be less than 50%. Maybe one-third*. Some less humble and more generous, some more humble and less generous - but generally "kind" men, etc. *because being humble and kind is a disadvantage to getting dates, relationships and ultimately marriage. Boasting, bravery and sometimes even controlling/pushy gets you farther.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:18 AM
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Actually a majority of men - I'd say more than 50%. Y'all include a hundred requirements about height, attractive face, attractive body, race, income, etc. but don't bother to select for humbleness, kindness, good treatment, etc. and then moan and cry about "all men". We're all over it. Go be with women and leave men alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:11 AM
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I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not - Lundy Bancroft's books are quite good. Especially "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" and "Why does he do that?" also in terms of men being abusive to children, "The Batterer as Parent" is on point. I do think hetero men have better natural insight into abusive men within the context of a relationship. Simply because their analysis and life experiences on this are less clouded by having had a personal romantic relationship with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:23 PM
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Meanwhile poor people have it easy because all they need is to put in work to get skills, education, a job, good investments, etc. I 100% understand your point though - that at least men have this option. But you are also discounting how much work it takes to utilize that option. And they're going to have to go through it while being lonely. Most guys are at their hormonal peak in their early 20s. Compare that to women who have a free voucher to the party - it just expires in a decade-and-a-half…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:10 PM
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Yes. If you don't get anything out of being intimate with men - then you are probably not fully heterosexual. As another example, men don't cum when they get a lap dance at a gentleman's club. But if they're heterosexual they still very much enjoy it because a naked or partially naked woman pressing up against them is exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:02 PM
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Well, even if I couldn't cum or enjoy an erection I would still enjoy sexual activity with a woman because the mere stimulus of being intimate with a woman is exciting. That's what it means to be heterosexual. On the other hand, it's theoretically possible that I could cum from forced stimulation by another man - but I sure as heck wouldn't enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:58 PM
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All true. Except for one big caveat that overtakes all of that: Women have a full decade, maybe even a decade-and-a-half, where the average woman is more wanted than the average man. Sure, if you wait until your mid 30's to pick a life partner - you're going to be very disappointed at your options. But that's also completely your fault. The only exception is that you make a wrong choice/get tricked (i.e. he turns out abusive). But that is also avoidable. You can read plenty of opinions straight …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:55 PM
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If nothing else, you would enjoy sex with a man, no? But if 99% of men are a negative, I would wonder if you're a straight woman. At best you would be bisexual leaning towards women (but accepting 1% of men).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:49 PM
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No because of loyalty and comfortableness. Also my sex drive isn't that high in my 30s so I imagine it will be even lower when I'm in my 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:46 PM
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In that case, do women think 99% of men will actively make their lives worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:35 PM
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so much cynicism because honestly that's entirely what is on display. No six figure job? Next. Not in perfect shape? Next. Showing any signs of a lack of confidence? Next. The vibe is off? Next. It's endless. And I feel these men are essentially poisoned by this. Because so many of the Uber romantic wear your heart on your sleeve kind of guys I've grown up with are now extremely cold and calculating. Very relatable. The other day I was wondering what happened to my younger self who enjoyed roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:32 PM
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Only if you're trying to get the top 5% most picky men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:28 PM
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Yeah, but you don't usually have several rounds of interviews and back and forth communication. Meaning if the first sex is bad for a woman she usually isn't interested in you any more and you will not be becoming a couple. For that reason alone, the guys with a lot of experience with many women will do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:19 PM
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You conveniently left out the word "drastically". Again, they want to be loved, feel special, and have enjoyable sex. And physical attraction and social compatibility are still near the top of the list. It's not like they change sexual orientation or find drastically different things physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:14 PM
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I'm a guy and I agree with you, but I think OP is sort of saying that woman need to be more aware of how men view sex and how it's different from how the average woman views sex. There's a reason men go to strip clubs, view porn, and buy prostitutes a lot lot lot more than women do. Partly it's because it's harder for us to get free sex. But it's also because we don't require emotional bonding to enjoy it. Completely made up statistics by me: but imo emotional bonding through sex happens maybe 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:50 PM
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"Adult" not a kid, a "Real" man, a "woman" not just a "girl", "we grown" (bad grammar intended)- I find these sort of statements cringe. People's sexuality, willpower, and deep wants/needs - don't drastically change between puberty and age 50. Still want to be loved by someone who thinks they're special, still want to have enjoyable sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:45 PM
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You're just describing someone who's introvert. And "going online" being one's only hobby probably describes at least 2/3rd's of people given how much is done online. It's 2022, grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:24 PM
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IMO, for confidence: 40% is genetics, 59.9% is the right kind of early childhood parenting, and 0.1% is the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:26 PM
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Serious question: how do you "adjust" what you can get an erection for? In what way is that at all within your control? Even with prescription medication, unless there is an initial impulse it's just not going to "fill up".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 01:17 PM
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I honestly don't think of it in those terms. What exactly do we mean by submissive vs dominating? I mean if she cooks for you it's certainly a big plus. But besides that I don't need anything else non-relationship from her. Doing my laundry and cleaning up after myself isn't that hard and I've been doing it since I was in middle school. If you're asking will I pay more than my fair share if she cooks for me - than yes. But I don't really consider that to be submission. I think women think of dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:50 PM
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Throw out all the children's stories of the prince/farm-hand/pauper/knight/jungle man/etc. saving/rescuing/providing for the woman and then her falling for him. How about stories where the guy with a heart of gold is ugly so the girl rejects him for a not-as-nice-guy who is handsome - end of story? Instead we have princesses kissing beasts and frogs and high school cheerleaders falling for the nerd. Feminists hate it because they think this fantasy caters to the patriarchy. But I think these sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:25 PM
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<30 y/o, the rest I'll "know it when I see it".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:59 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure. And you certainly don't have an agenda of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:50 AM
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Guess what? I, a man, would prefer that too. Turns out people like the being given the option of not paying for their stuff. Who knew? The question is - are you going to be a simp just because it's what a woman - who might not even like you - prefers? A lot of men do. And as a result, there is trend toward making fun of them. I'm of the opinion that if you are spending X amount on a woman and it's more than the Y amount she spends on you - you are a simp, period. Yes, even 1 measly pizza or Uber…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:22 AM
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In your hypothetical where she still loves and respects you as a man - sure. But that is one big hypothetical. I've never actually even heard of a househusband (e.g. not a Stay at home dad) outside of Tik Tok. They always had kids. And even with a S.A.H.D. situation, the woman didn't respect him and was either abusive or having affairs. One that particularly comes to mind is a female doctor I used to work with who would go out into the hallway and yell commands into her phone to her SAHD husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:11 AM
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Because going at 0 mph and then continuing to go at 0 mph isn't hitting a wall. Below average men are used to it. They didn't really lose anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:56 PM
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Polyamory is already practiced a lot more than reported. In nearly every survey, women report being "in a relationship" at greater levels than men do - how so if homosexual men and women are about the same percentage? And if you look at online dating, those top guys getting the lion's share of attention are not dating one-at-a-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:48 PM
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What benefit is there to promoting transgender or gay rights? Governments are made up of people and people want what they want. They aren't always thinking about "the good of the country".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:03 PM
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You can put whatever description you want, but at the end of the day the vast majority of polyamory/gamy is still 1 man and multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:02 PM
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I agree with you. It's not like gay sex or transgender surgery. A hereto woman adapting from having 1 man to having 0.5 of a man is not nearly as drastic. First it's cultural acceptance, than it's promotion, and then it's widespread adoption. I would argue that within the next decade sharing a high-value man will be a legitimate option for at least a third of hetero women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:01 PM
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You can't argue that isn't the first step. And I think you discount the effect of culture on people, especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:58 PM
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I'm not talking about an ego boost, though that's there as well. I'm talking about younger woman being more sexually attractive simply because of their youthfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:23 PM
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Yup, definitely a personality disorder. I recently made a comment defending the importance of mother's day (I assume you agree my mother is a woman) and I've been vocally against "critical race theory" and inappropriate accusations of racism without evidence (which is usually against white people). But sure, I "hate all women and all white people" /s. I don't even care to try to understand how you came to that bat-shit crazy conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:54 PM
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I edited my last post to answer your question more directly vis-a-vis "white" being an ethnic group or not. But if you wish bad things to happen to me because I am referencing definitions of words you are using incorrectly or ignorantly - than you might have a personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:38 PM
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I don't understand why you aren't getting this but I'm tired of explaining it to you over and over again. We use words colloquially sometimes not in exact accordance to their written definition, but according to the expert definition a white/swedish/bulgarian/french/alien/blue/orange/etc. person living in Japan, alongside majority Eat Asians, would be "ethnic" there. On the other hand, a white person in Vermont would not be "ethnic" there. Get it? In the common western colloquial parlance though…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:34 PM
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Tall, thin, blonde, super model type = I can say she is very attractive but it doesn't sexually attract me. Would be more attracted to a short, soft (a little chubby all over), brown-skinned dark-haired qt-3.14. Sometimes I see before and after pictures of women online who got really toned and everyone is complementing them but I think they looked better before. And I know it's an unpopular opinion because the few times I ever voiced that it was down-voted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:41 PM
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For example, a white person living in Vermont would not be "ethnic" but he would have an "ethnicity". And you're now introducing a third term "ethnic origin" which is also slightly different from the first two. It's not really a hard concept to understand. I'll copy-paste the definition I edited into my original post for people like you: According to Oxford Languages (world's leading dictionary publisher, and supplier to Google's dictionary function): Ethnic: "relating to a population subgroup (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:36 PM
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Not every woman can get a tall handsome bad boy. Almost every high school has a handsome jock who is also a bully. Did he date a lot of girls? Sure. Were people like him enough in number to date all the girls? Of course not. There were "average" people in the periphery who got together. But if he wanted to he could take her away from you as long as he could convince her it was "real".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:51 PM
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...."in some context". If you include that part, you are technically correct. But you can't just make up your own definitions. If you refuse to acknowledge the definition of ethnic I edited into my original post - I don't know what else to tell you. Maybe make up your own special language with your own definitions of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:24 PM
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Older women are less physically attractive, hence their standards for physical attractiveness are lower. It's usually the simple answer that is correct but whenever age or race come into the picture for dating, people make up complex explanations to spare feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:18 PM
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Some people are so quick to say this as if everyone is gullible except for them. I haven't actually watched a full episode of LiB, but if it's like any other reality TV dating show - it is never full-on professional acting. Producers don't tell you who you are allowed to be attracted to and who you are not allowed to be attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:08 PM
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Because knowing the way people are, I don't want a specific ethnicity tied to this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:03 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:47 PM
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I ended up putting in an edit in my post explaining the difference between "ethnic" and "ethnicity". You're not the first person to nitpick this pedantic detail and incorrectly correct me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:38 PM
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"Ethnic" = "relating to a population subgroup (within a larger or dominant national or cultural group)" In this case, non-white in the U.S. This is the definition from Oxford Languages (dictionary google uses). Also, I am not "hating on myself". Where did I say I hate myself, or even hate my race? All I said was being non-white isn't ideal for getting women (white or ethnic women). Maybe don't insult my English or my sense of self-respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:21 PM
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I’d suggest guys that fall in this area start training their brain to desire obese women if they want companionship. lol. But how would one even do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:06 PM
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Honestly it was upsetting to hear when I was younger and trying to get attention from girls for the first time. But now that I'm older it's not that shocking or disturbing. We all know white guys do better with white and ethnic women both. But I don't feel bad for myself - I still have the second most important physical thing for women (height). There are plenty of guys who are neither white or tall!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:51 PM
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I didn't watch the video but skipped through it and it looked like a first-person view as through a discrete eyeglasses camera. Which used to be popular among pick up artists on youtube in the past. I also doubt this 4/10 guy got together 100 women for a stunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:09 AM
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People do love their mothers. Mother's day is the 3rd biggest holiday by spending in the U.S. after Christmas and Valentine's. People spend almost 2x as much on mother's day as father's day - and I think the only reason it isn't much bigger is because you feel pressured to spend something on dad after spending on mom. They just don't care about other people's mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:22 PM
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They (women) are definitely prettier when they are younger. But they're like a bright star that burns out. Take a look at Jennifer Aniston - she's way past her time and even with all the surgery and photoshopping it's only other women who are complimenting her on her latest magazine cover: https://interactive.allure.com/jennifer-aniston-cover/public/static/3a7194e8ec19a0ae5bf1611964092565/64ab2/Allure_Cover_Aniston_2022.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:45 AM
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They literally do cut across continents and centuries. What are you talking about? One has to work really hard to find esoteric exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:12 AM
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if left to their own devices, little boys will enjoy playing with dolls and will be just as down for a game of mummies and daddies as little girls. patently untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:11 AM
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As a man, I think all the feminists telling me not to be this way are just hurting me. Ultimately I need to lean into my natural masculine energy. Feminists call it "toxic masculinity" but those who follow their teachings are doomed as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:08 AM
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Agreed. That's why as guys we shouldn't be spending one cent on women. In 2022, we already call men who pay for dinner dates simps but honestly we need to take it further. If you pay 1 cent towards her you are already in simp territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:14 AM
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"worked on multiple private healthcare information systems" and "owned his own house and car" sounds like middle class - not even upper-middle class. I don't think that's what OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:11 AM
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That's a separate issue. I'm just talking about fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:47 PM
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-PCOS affects 6-12% of the population. You may be right as a SINGLE syndrome. But there are are host of other things that together fall under the purview of "advanced maternal age" which then eclipses PCOS as a leading cause. -First bolded: >45 and <25 is a big difference, no? What a biased selection of parameters to make a shocking conclusion. Nobody should be surprised there is a difference in fertility between a middle aged man and a recent college grad. Male fertility does decline with age, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:28 AM
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There are two possibilities: people thought a 45 year old was under 18. Or - that particular place simply has a policy to card everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:26 AM
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The key difference is that male infertility (in a population of patients seeking to conceive) is rarely directly due to age. Congenital disorders and acquired disorders through environmental factors are most common. Sperm dysmotility, for example, doesn't normally decrease appreciably until 50's. Those with low sperm motility were born with it. Wouldn't have mattered if they tried at age 20 instead of 40. On the other hand, by far the most common cause of female infertility is simply advanced ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:22 AM
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men age-out when it comes to sperm quality too, and if they want children with a lower chance of genetic abnormalities and disorders such as autism and ADHD, they’re better to have kids with men their own age or within a few years of their age, in their late 20s/early 30s. The fertility window for the average man is into his 60s and the risk of genetic disorders is much smaller than for the woman who is supplying the egg and doesn't start to go up until mid 40s. (And these btw are some of the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:36 PM
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but I think I can maintain this well into my mid 50’s That is not realistic. I know plenty of people in their mid 30s that can still pass for mid 20s. But it's much rarer not to look your age after 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:34 PM
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Why would someone fear diseased people, feces, people vomiting? The study really was just testing disgust in that group. (Edit: I suppose fear of infection - but that's also tied to disgust). On the other hand, the fear group were images of people being violent, dangerous animals, weapons, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:23 PM
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Well you don't have millions of people lying to you about the fundamentals of rocket science. So that definitely makes it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:47 AM
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I understand this behavior when a guy approaches them randomly. But there's no excuse in school, at work, as a cashier at a supermarket, etc. These are well-lit areas surrounded by many people (I suppose someone could corner someone in an empty classroom or breakroom - but I've never done that). I would say the vast majority of the people who were casually rude to me were women. I'm sure fear/protection is a factor, but these cases highlight what your studies show - disgust plays a much bigger r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:56 PM
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So long essay short: your gf will treat you shittier if you're not hot. Which is basic red pill knowledge. The next step being is you have to keep up the same level of fitness, frame, game, etc. after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:39 PM
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Except women are clear that they do not want casual sex ad infinitum. They want committed relationships. Yet they swipe on only the same top 10% of guys and then make Tik Toks crying why men only want to sleep with them and not have a relationship. It may be a stereotype, but men are more realistic and calculating. We are less likely to believe in "the one" and there's no female equivalent to the "knight in shining armor" appearing suddenly without effort. Ergo, I don't think men in that situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:39 AM
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Your only options in the case of you being below or equal to their league are: spending a considerable amount of time getting to know someone to land that one special girl, or drastically improving your life. I hope no one picks the former. Not to mention, the former gets you labelled "nice guy". God forbid you treat someone you're romantically interested in nicely. In the past that's what they called "courting", now it's considered pathetic and "nice guy" behavior. i.e., "just being nice to her…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:25 AM
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I am conventionally attractive This is a pre-requisite before social things come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:52 AM
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"The forms of financial abuse may be subtle or overt but in in general, include tactics to conceal information, limit the victim's access to assets, or reduce accessibility to the family finances." Financial abuse is not about an income-gap. It's part of domestic violence. Whether the guy is poorer, the same, or richer, he can seek to control the woman's finances. The term has nothing to do with rich guys. (Actually, if anything, a rich person maybe be less likely to control or siphon off their …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:12 AM
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‘Fuck your art, I wanna see your ass!’ - That sounds more like harassment and belittlement than simply being sexualized. Most "sexualization" is being stared at a little too long and being complimented excessively.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:06 AM
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Look at some dating statistics. Every guy wants early 20's women. They'll accept older women (up to a point) but nobody prefers post-30's over a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:10 AM
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The hell's your point? You want to control these women until they are "mature" enough to make their own decisions - according to you? (What are the criteria, lol?) I, and no guy, cares if a pretty sweet kind woman lives with her parents or lives with 3 hags. It makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:31 AM
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Nobody's against it. But most men don't want that. And most women don't want that. As a result, it'll always be less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:20 PM
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Exactly. It's a downside to being a hetero women. Why can't people be honest about it? The amount of men chasing after your women >>> amount of women chasing after younger men. But that presents a downside to being a hetero men: All men 18-45 are after the same smaller subset of 18-35 y/o women - and thus it's even more competitive for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:10 PM
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I don't know why you are hung up on other countries when this is a US-centric sub (or at minimum, western-centric sub). There are a lot of bad things that happen in the world. But I'm just talking about marriage in the US. I also don't understand your anger. My opinion (and those who share it) is just that - an opinion. And we have some statistics to support it. But to my knowledge most of us aren't out there shaming non-married co-inhabiting couples. Fact is, births out of wedlock keep steadily…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:55 PM
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Marital rape isn't legal. And marriage gives protections that are important to women especially. For example, you have a legal claim to support or a portion of assets if you break up - which is particularly important to women who still do the majority of unpaid home and child labor and handicap their career for it. And, though it might not be fair, it also automatically assigns default paternity to your husband when you get pregnant. You mentioned women are happier single than married. But have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:19 PM
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I have never known a guy who was FWB or fuck buddies with a girl and exclusive with her. Do you even know what those words mean? Get a proper boyfriend then. But he'll likely be less hot than a FWB you could get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:35 PM
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What does the bible matter? In pre-sexual revolution America, polygamy was not condoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:28 PM
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Marriage does not give social legitimacy. It's a legally binding contract. No more, no less. A piece of paper does not automatically make a relationship more valid than relationships that don't have this piece of paper. It does in my opinion. You file taxes jointly, you share health insurance, you have a mortgage and other joint property, share an IRA, and in the eyes of many civil matters you are a cohesive team and in criminal matters you have special immunity against being forced to testify. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:16 PM
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If he's "high-value" and in-demand he will get his low-n wife even after being a player himself. But if he's "low-value" he'll either die alone or get with a promiscuous left-over woman who is equally desperate. Your, mine, or anyone else on this sub's opinion on the matter means diddly squat. "Why should women..." "Why should men...." Do you guys honestly believe you are going to change the deep-seated preferences of men and women with your all-powerful logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:07 PM
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You're attracted to youthful beauty? Prey on women much? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:53 AM
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You're talking about a 23 year old ADULT. What age is someone old enough that their possible baggage isn't a reason to condemn their boyfriend? 24? 25? Whatever age you happen to be? Youth is not that correlated to submission. There are plenty of 22 year old women who yell and attack their bfs. And there are plenty of 32 year old women who will blindly obey their bfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:52 AM
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Nobody said they look younger. One of the reasons men have a later age is because things like crow's feet and a sprinkling of gray hair is much less detrimental to them. Their appearance is tied to youth - but not nearly as much as a woman's is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:47 AM
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Men don’t look better it’s just more acceptable for them to visibly age. That's all looking good is - subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:54 AM
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Point is, it's a much smaller negative for men than it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:53 AM
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I think it's 35 for women and 45 for men. - assuming they maintain a healthy BMI! I think women who say it's 35 for men just don't like this reality. Similar to women's reproductive health declining sooner and more rapidly than men's. Fact is, most of the hot men at 35 are still mostly hot in their early 40's. The extra crows-feet and gray hairs simply doesn't hurt men as much as it does women. On the other hand, the ideal woman has no wrinkles or gray hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:13 AM
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On average, men do. The typical story is woman gets best man possible, then she pushes for a relationship, and then she pushes for a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:52 PM
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We may find it weird a 35 years old man hits on a 22 years old woman I don't even see what's weird about that. At what age are women finally not children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:47 PM
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Hot 35-45 y/o men are really not that rarer than hot 18-25 y/o men. Many men look awkward when younger. Basically hot men are rare in both age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:44 PM
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Children (<14) I would help - that's definitely not simping. The problem with helping a woman in a fight with a man is almost every single woman returns to their abuser. You get in between them, and you'll end up with 2 people testifying against you. "Officer, I was just trying to help her!" (Sure, "nice guy".) Best case scenario: You're a captain-save-a-ho or a "nice guy". Worst case scenario: You get charged for participating in a fight. So never worth it. Just keep your hands to yourself and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:48 PM
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Think about it - all the biggest blow-hards you've seen in your life - the guys who act like they are the smartest, strongest, most special. Even if they are objectively average or even below average. How many of them are single? A few? none? Sure, some women will find them obnoxious some of the time - but so many more will eat it up with a spoon. I've always been very self-critical partially due to a NPD father. If I accomplished something he'd remind me it's not a big deal. If I failed - he'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:04 AM
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Did he also not have sex with anyone else? Or he just calls you as a back-up when he strikes out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:22 PM
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I thought sex was special? Seems like it changes. Sometimes it's special and you need to wait. Other times it's just like using the toilet - just bodily secretions going from one area to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:20 PM
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Simping doesn't have to be extreme like OnlyFans and findom. It's also just just stuff like paying for dinner or just treating a woman nicer than you would a man. For example, if you're driving down a road and see someone struggling with their spare tire - if you wouldn't stop to help a man you shouldn't stop to help a woman either. If you see two people fighting - would your intervene if it's between two men? If no, then you shouldn't intervene if one of them is a woman. These rules are even mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:13 PM
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The kind of guy who goes abroad isn't competitive for anything but fat poor American women - and even those are hard to get. Even loser women believe they deserve better than loser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:24 PM
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The kind of guy who goes abroad isn't competitive for anything but fat poor American women - and even those are hard to get. Even loser women believe they deserve better than loser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:24 PM
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Agreed, except you have something to lose with the American too. And on paper she's worse vs. the kind of women he could get in the Philippines.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:25 AM
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What are their options? A fat poor American woman with kids vs. a poor attractive Philippines woman without kids? They have nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:55 AM
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My point is I wouldn't call if it a "screening" if it's just asking you questions on a form and taking your word for it - and oh, we'll only want your sample (and thus pay you) if you answer a specific way - *hint* *hint*.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:16 AM
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Well intelligence is at least somewhat important. I'd rather my child not struggle in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:40 PM
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lol may be true. But I doubt that's near the top of a woman's concerns upon learning she's pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:38 PM
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Reasonable people can disagree, but I think we can all agree what we think of when we read "extensive psychological screening" and "family history screening" and it's not just asking extra questions on a form. The only things you can be sure of when taking a sperm sample is their appearance, weight/height, lack of STDs, and basic genetic/chromosomal testing. That schizophrenic criminal I mentioned earlier? He wrote down he was a PhD neuroscientist when in reality he dropped out of high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:46 PM
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Those are federal requirements are the minimum. It doesn't mean that most does require physical and mental screening and most list it right on their website. Correct. And often the websites paint it in the best possible light. "Extensive family history" is just asking the donor on a form. "Psychological screening" is just a personal inventory assessment form - not an actual psychiatrist or psychologist screening you (it's not hard to hide even schizophrenia or bipolar). Hence my description of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:32 PM
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Psychological screening can mean anything though. Apparently for the specific bank you linked to - they give them a form to fill out - a psych questionnaire of some sort. Not clear if they even talk to a psychologist. Physical exam, metabolic panel, urinalysis, background checks - are not universal. If they were, a schizophrenic with a criminal record wouldn't have been able to donate to a bank in Atlanta. I guess the psychological screening and background check just missed that, huh? Actual uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:21 PM
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Well in real life, if A wanted to donate, he wouldn't disclose his criminal record or domestic violence. And he would be in very high demand. B would probably not even get accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:52 PM
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Way to talk out of your bum. They screen your sample for STDs and genetic or chromosomal abnormalities. They also take pictures and your height/weight. Everything else they take your word for (education, criminal record, etc.). There definitely isn't a physical exam, much less a psychological screen. PS - and the genetic testing is very basic. There's a plethora of genetic and congenital diseases or disorders you can have and it's on the honor system to disclose it. It's not like a doctor shows …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:45 PM
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So thought experiments are useless? For e.g. in the famous Trolley Problem nobody IRL is likely to encounter that situation. Hence the idea is useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:41 PM
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Obviously it's worth something or else men wouldn't put so much effort into getting it. I think it's unfortunate when someone has to pay for something others get for free. But it's not the tragedy of the century if they know what they're getting. On the other hand a simp is someone who is, for example, paying for OnlyFans and imagining a connection that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:36 PM
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I'd be picky too if sex with me could potentially force me to grow a watermelon sized parasite and push it through my coin sized hole How tf will "fun"-loving help you with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:20 PM
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Most of the guys I know can't get a girlfriend. I think they're after the handsome guys they see on Tinder. If you ask them - they say they're willing to wait and be single. Which makes sense for the younger ones. But I've seen some late 20's saying that and I think those are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:51 AM
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Uh - obviously. I agree. Did I say something counter to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:47 PM
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Yes, women hate it. Especially race/ethnicity. They want to pretend like it's not one of the biggest factors. I think it's because they don't want to admit the homogeneity of their preferences because it goes against their narrative of "just wanting a good guy". Also it's kind of hard for liberal hetero women to blame the wealthy, blame white men, blame the patriarchy - when the modal ideal for hetero women around the world is a white, tall, wealthy man with a fit body basking in western hegemon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:15 PM
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Obviously they're not rejected for sex. But they are rejected for a relationship. And if they start getting clues from her past during the relationship a marriage becomes less likely. Now obviously nothing in love is an absolute. If she's hot enough and if he's enough of a loser - almost anything can be forgiven. But the point is you won't get the level of guy you otherwise could have gotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:02 PM
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I'd be picky too if sex with me could potentially force me to grow a watermelon sized parasite and push it through my coin sized hole. Except women are clearly not picky in that way. Women aren't having sex with men based on if they are stable, good income, responsible, no criminal record, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:57 PM
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Obsessing over equity is just a symptom of entitlement. Tell that to people fighting against wealth inequality or for a higher minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:54 PM
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A better test would be - how many ugly guys do you know who get invited to parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:16 PM
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When they say 1-2% they're talking about the general population. Not the guys invited to a party! Or even the guys in clubs (who through self-selection and sometimes bouncer-selection are also going to be hotter than the general population even if they weren't explicitly invited like in a party).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:03 AM
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I agree it sounds very depressing. But the upside is that it is much easier to change a woman's mind. I'm 34 and I can't tell you how many times I've seen a woman with a long laundry list of requirements throw it out when she felt a good vibe. Trust me when I say - if you're in the top quartile of men - that is enough looks-wise as long as you remember the batting average of baseball hall of famers (around 300 - meaning less than 3 in 10). If you ask out 10 women and get even 2 meetups (I won't …
/r/MensRights05/10/22 09:47 PM
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Fucking David Card wrote this? The guy who did a whole analysis for the defense to "prove" that Harvard didn't discriminate against Asian students? My how the turn tables...turn....
/r/MensRights04/10/22 09:44 PM
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I took an intro to gender studies course in college because it was known to be a guaranteed 'A' and it satisfied one of the college of arts & science's general requirements. If someone asked me then, I would've said I was a feminist. Sure. Women must have it really bad out in the real world. Fast forward several years of life experience, and I realize what a joke it was. Individual people have advantages and disadvantages. Not an entire half of the world.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 09:42 PM
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Surprise! That doesn't work. And you get put on the r/niceguy sub. And several hundred cackling hens laugh at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:20 PM
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I hate having sex first because I'm scared I don't perform well. It's like a crippling anxiety. I psych myself out. I'd rather just get it over with. I have some loneliness problems about it but I'm OK. Haven't had sex in like 7 years. But that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:52 PM
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Women constantly complain that men in online dating say they want a relationship but just want sex. Are the women liars? Are the men liars? According to you it doesn't even happen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:45 PM
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Everyone ultimately wants a relationship. Most people pair up. You make it sound like people regularly meet sexual partners and put them into separate tracks - casual sex vs. casual sex leading to relationship. It's not like that. It's just sex at first. Whether it leads to something or not is separate from how it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:40 PM
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Really? You advice is I date women and ask them to be my girlfriend before even sleeping with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:24 PM
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I guess people just say "I'M LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP!" before having sex for the first time and that makes it non-casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:22 PM
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And what's the difference between meeting someone for casual sex vs. LTR? Do you not flirt for both? Do you not date for both? Do you not have sex with both? The LTR is just an extension of casual sex. SO MANY MEN claim to want an LTR just to get to the casual sex stage because that is on the route to an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:20 PM
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Put down the bottle, dude. Take a nap. You aren't making any sense. Nobody even mentioned changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:17 PM
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ARE THEY DECIDED ON A COMMITMENT EVEN BEFOER SEX? Dude, the vast majority of people pair off in LTRs. By your definition, there is no casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:16 PM
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I would love that personally, even though I'm a guy. I assume you met in person? Did their performance in bed give you regrets afterward? (Anycase, vis a vis my post - I don't believe this is common in 2022.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:12 PM
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I went to Penn State, the Philadelphia campus lol. (to retards who don't get the joke, I want to say I have a B.A. in Economics from an ivy league university)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:09 PM
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Please don't post when drunk or stupid. As a CMV I have to respond to some initial posts but you're just drunk. Just take a nap, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:08 PM
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Ah. I think you have a backwards definition of casual sex then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:05 PM
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If you aren't lying, I am very curious what region you are in. Because this is definitely not my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:03 PM
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I definitely did not "know" the women I had sex with the first time - including a long time gf (now ex). How could I? Sex usually happens by the second date. Are you telling me you "know" a person in 1 hour? How often have you waited for sex? By my estimation it would take several months to "know" someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:00 PM
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Please explain to me how getting an LTR would be different from getting casual sex. Are you freaking human? You know flirting -> dating -> sex -> relationship - that's the sequence. You can't just skip over to relationship. How does that conversation go? "Hey, I know we've never been physically romantic, but how about we become bf/gf?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:55 PM
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"Bro" what the fuck are you talking about? Pretend I'm a small child. Or a golden retriever. And try again. Stop. Read the post. Think. Stop. Construct a cogent response. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:51 PM
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Do you advise people on reddit to conduct their lives as if your experience is common?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:48 PM
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Are you honestly telling me you became bf/gf before ever having sex? Like in the 1950s?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:43 PM
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That is impossible unless you have a relationship with EVERY SINGLE person you have sex with. - And I highly doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:41 PM
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Then I am happily wrong. But do you think you are typical? More than half of relationships happen online now. Do you think they commit to becoming bf/gf before having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:39 PM
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Unless you only date your brothers and cousins - YOU DO have casual sex first. You met a stranger, you had sex, THEN he became your boyfriend. Please tell me you aren't screwing your brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:36 PM
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Ok, you had sex for the first time with a stranger who later turned out to be your boyfriend. (Everyone else on earth would call it casual sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:35 PM
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I'm so tired of this. Are people dense? So - you were bf/gf BEFORE even having sex for the first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:34 PM
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What happens? People agreeing to bf/gf status without having sex first?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:31 PM
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So you're telling me EVERY SINGLE guy you've had sex with turned out to be a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:30 PM
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No it isn't. But it happens more often if they declare they want a relationship. Nevertheless, the first steps - including sex - is the same whether they just have casual or form a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:29 PM
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No, no no. I don't want to define it as that. I want an LTR and a wife. But that is how it IS. Until you have a relationship, the sex is casual. You might decide not to have a relationship, and then have casual sex with another person, or another. Until you decide to have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:27 PM
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But you have casual sex first, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:25 PM
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So before every sexual encounter you say: "This will be a committed exclusive relationship, agree?" Maybe you just got lucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:24 PM
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Well you tell me - how the hell do you develop a committed monogamous relationship without ever having slept with her first?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:22 PM
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You are 100% wrong because it is rare that a male actually says "just looking to bang anonymously". It's well known that doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:21 PM
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Lady, it's the same sex. The guy you have an LTR with - had casual sex with you first!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:19 PM
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I wish post authors could have a crown to award to the stupidest posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:16 PM
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So you go up to a woman, romance them, have dinner with them, get into an LTR......and THEN have sex? That's not how it works. If she doesn't want to have sex with you, there is no relationship. That's all I'm saying in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:16 PM
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It's ALL casual until it's in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:14 PM
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And do you think that's typical among single people looking to date in their 20s and 30s? Don't mean to be rude. But obviously we aren't looking for outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:12 PM
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Holy shit that sounds awful? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:10 PM
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Well if you were an average statistic your story would be around 1952.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:10 PM
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I've never heard of a girl accepting bf/gf status with someone they've never slept with. And second, if it's the 1st time they had sex - it IS CASUAL - they don't know each other yet. And they might not agree to continue seeing each other!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:09 PM
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You were bf/gf with every guy you had sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:07 PM
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If you are a human being - you know that people looking for a relationship don't pair up with the first person they have sex with. Am I crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:06 PM
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I'm talking about averages. Specific religious sect rituals isn't relevant to anybody but you. Can't we just accept averages? common experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:02 PM
1

And I'm sure you're typical. What year is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:01 PM
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I disagree because you have to be able to get her to sleep with you BEFORE asking for an LTR. Does that not make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:00 PM
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I'm Indian-American. In modern arranged marriages we have pre-marital sex. And just like normal dating - it's before deciding if we're exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:58 PM
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Why don't people get it? Casual sex = casual sex LTR = casual sex, you like each other, then commitment You can't just skip the sex and ask someone to be your gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:57 PM
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Did you have (then) casual sex first? Or did you become bf/gf and have sex as a couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:55 PM
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You become bf/gf without having sex first? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:55 PM
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In other words - it's the exact same experience from meeting you to bedding you. My point stands. The possibility of an LTR is only after.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:54 PM
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Male. I've tried maybe 4-5 times. It always ends the friendship. I don't know why PPD can't understand a basic fact: you need to be able to get sex before you can get an LTR. "Why are you so focused on sex?" I'm not. "Why don't men want an LTR?" They do. But sex comes first and then there's a mutual decision. Many men don't even get to the sex part. And many of the men who do have many other options which makes them picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:17 PM
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Don't worry lol. Time works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:03 AM
1

Hot. (Until you're too old.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:42 AM
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Now you're just insulting me as sex-crazed, lol. I'm not. Hookups, FWB, ONS, long term relationships - all start out the same way. And the LAST ONE to form is LTR. It's a step-wise fashion. I'm not obsessed with sex. I'm saying, for the millionth time, to get an LTR you need to be good at (1) talking to women (2) getting them to hang out with you (3) getting them to be physical with you - usually sex. THEN you can consider if you both want to become gf and bf. It's not like you can just skip the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:59 PM
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No, that would be reducing your sexual successfulness to a number. And that's horrible advice. Even if pursuing a mutual loving LTR (which I am), you need to have sex first. In fact, the first several steps in both having a hookup or in forming an LTR - are the same! LTRs come from a hookup. Then you decide on whether to continue and become exclusive. So to say "focus on LTR and not a hookup" is ....just dumb. As for listening and paying attention while dating - that's dating advice. Compromisin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:21 PM
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Who said "a lot" of women? But you need to be sexually successful and be able to get SOME women to have sex with you. Unless you're advising men to get into a relationship with the first woman who will both have sex with him and say "yes" to a relationship? (And even that might take a couple hookups - not every woman who sleeps with you will say yes to an LTR.) Do you have an approximate number in mind? E.g. when you're a single man, you should have sex with an average of "X" different women bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:56 PM
1

Of all popular video game franchises, LoL is the most gender split - about 50:50. And any look at popular porn categories will show that anime isn't even on the list. Why make up these weird neckbeard anime-fetishist stereotypes and treat them as if they are anything but super rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:32 PM
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And why don't they? (srs) In every dating site, in every club, in most bars - there are way more men simping for woman than any woman could handle. Yet someone they always seem to find the guy who "makes" her do his laundry/cooking, "makes" her perform a sex act she doesn't like, "makes" her feel bad about her body, etc. The manosphere will explain it that they just go for the hottest guys who have a lot of options and thus can afford to treat girls badly because there's always another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:28 PM
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How do you have LTR options without hooking up in 2022? Without even sleeping with them once, you ask them to be your bf or gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:06 AM
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That seems like the most simple answer. Shitty men are shitty at work and shitty at home. Instead, they'll try to say some convoluted psychobabble about how being a independent successful women makes men bitter and punish you with subpar housework help.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:23 PM
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If it's the second one - than YOU DO need to be sexually successful to get in an LTR. You need to be able to convince different women to have sex with you so you have a choice on who to choose for an LTR. (Edit: Not to mention not every woman who hooks-up with you will say yes to an LTR either.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:16 PM
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Men hold more positions of power for a good reason - there is a miniscule subset of people that are smarter, work harder, and fight dirtier than everybody else, and that subset has more men than women for biological and evolutionary reasons. If the world were really conspiring against women we could have them all in burqas within a week. Exactly what happened in Afghanistan in the span of literal days after the coalition of nations (almost entirely male soldiers) left. But most men are NOT the T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:12 PM
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Of course I have. Are you saying that people meet, date, become exclusive/monogamous....and THEN have sex for the first time? Or do men pick who to have a relationship with from the subset of women who they have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:54 PM
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Both. People keep telling you it's not an Either/OR situation but you refuse to hear it. You need to hookup before an LTR develops. More hookups mean more, and better, LTR options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:53 PM
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Who, Leonardo? Because the only ones getting a LTR in the first place are the sexually successful men. You have to have sex first before you decide to make it into a relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:50 PM
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Your options for a life partner is chosen among the group of women in the world who are willing to sleep with you. If you're sexually successful, you're also going to have great relationships and a chance at a great life partner. Yeah being Leonard DiCaprio would be nice, but that's not required to be happy. And men generally don't say that - "Leonardo sex god status or bust!!!". They just say they want a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:47 PM
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Black women are a prominent exception in favor of black men (though not other races above white). Every other race of women - east asian, south asian, hispanic, native ameircan, etc. favors white men over other races. Along with white women themselves, of course. Thus "less attractive to the average woman"? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:19 PM
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Saying that someone partner is dating them because they’re insecure, because people of “undesirable” races can’t love and be loved is racist. lmao. Nobody said that! Or even anything close to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:15 PM
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I find it racist to deny the obviously very strong impact of race on dating. Literally the only sphere of life where it is considered OK to have race preferences. I'm going to go ahead and guess you're a non-white woman with a white man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:48 PM
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Of course it has racial undertones! Dating is the only area where race preferences are considered OK by most people. Are we really that anti-intellectual that we're going to call OP racist for mentioning obvious facts like black women and asian men (both east and south asian) are less desired in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:45 PM
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Less attractive to the average woman? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:41 PM
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(Straight) guys dont watch marvel movies to ogle the guy's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:38 PM
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It's not really a 6'2" six-pack Bugatti driver. Because obviously that's way too tiny a % of the population - nowhere close to 20%. But it is a tall, white/biracial/hispanic man with a face amenable to TikTok that makes under 100k but above minimum wage. And they don't have harems because most women do not accept explicit polygamy (though this is slowly changing). It is more about side-pieces and rotating FWBs, while also having a gf. Often times the only title these girls get is "a girl I'm tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:33 PM
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So you make friends with a hot guy, then you get into a monogamous relationship with him, THEN you have sex for the first time? I highly doubt that. I understand you're saying that if a hot guy wants a relationship he is less likely to just be using you for sex because he can get sex easily. But I'm saying the problem with that is that you have to have sex with a ton of hot guys then before one offers you a relationship. Whereas getting a less attractive guy to be devoted to you is a lot more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:01 PM
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By that logic, an average women would have to have sex with so many attractive men before either (A.) her window of opportunity runs out (35? 38?), (B.) she gets an STD/pregnancy/other result that decreases her attractiveness, or (C.) she hits the jackpot and a more attractive man (who is also successful enough to not use her for another reason - e.g. financial/housing/etc) offers her a serious relationship. Because in 2022 you have to have casual sex first before the relationship is offered. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:52 PM
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Yes, that's why the have a different name. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:39 PM
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But attractive guys are also more used to having sex with multiple women and can more easily replace their girlfriend if they get caught. Knowing unattractive men, most of them would be stunned if a woman came on to them. It wouldn't even register in their minds. On the other hand attractive men are much more experienced and suave, on average, given their vastly higher experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:36 PM
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That only makes sense if men cheat for validation and not for actual sex. But if that was the case, hot men would be just like women - get compliments and an internet relationship - and stop there. Or just have emotional affairs at the workplace - but stop there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:25 PM
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What do you think arranged marriage consists of? Watch the Netflix series 'Indian Matchmaking'. It is archaic but modern arranged marriage isn't lopsided in favor of men. By transactional marriage I assume you mean younger women marrying older rich men. That happens, albeit it is a small minority. Most women aren't that much of a gold digger. I think you meant to say "forced marriages". Check out the wikipedia entry on it (and note that it differs greatly from arranged marriage). Forced marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:15 PM
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Women were thought of as mentally and physically inferior. I will grant you that. And many women, for complex reasons, were willing to play the part and even bolster the idea. Post-feminism that idea changed (at least in the majority). As for marital rape, in that environment it was never even considered that women knew what was good for them. To be clear, I'm not saying it was good. But I am saying it wasn't that men didn't care if their wives liked or wanted something. For example, we want our…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:44 PM
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Then manipulate them back. Maybe even get a vasectomy (it can be reversed, as Michael Scott taught us).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:33 PM
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Marriage rates are down a lot. So polygamy being illegal isn't really that important. It's polyamory in general that is important. Pre-internet you only had to compete with suitors in your school, church or workplace. Now she has suitors from all across town as well the next town over (and sometimes even in another state that are willing to fly her over). Meanwhile, pre-marital sex is A-OK, abortion is a right, and sex work is real work. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195951/marriage-rate-i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:31 PM
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Dude that's everybody. But the fact that we even have structural changes in modern society to lift up women proves that if anything, men care more about opposite-sex non-relatives than women do. All those men walking around in "future is female" t-shirts? Everyone denouncing the fact that engineering schools are majority male vs. nobody cares that medical schools are majority female? Look around there's hundreds of examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:21 PM
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So in other words, 'yes'. If they are being pumped and dumped when they don't want to be - then they are dating outside of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:17 PM
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Usually when somebody claims something/someone is unique/ an exception to the rule, they have to explain why. It's not assumed it's an exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:27 PM
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Are all women who complain about their dating life also dating outside of their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:12 PM
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I'm 34 and I think you might be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:00 PM
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Life is a sysiphian climb. Think about what you're saying here. That life = the worst punishment that the gods could bestow on a man. A man who betrayed Zeus, kind of gods, and cheated Hades, the god of the underworld, not once but twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:59 PM
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There's nothing "mysterious" about it. Turns out female humans are like every other female mammal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:31 AM
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Thank you for that, Dr. Obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:52 AM
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You should look at the average MCAT and GPA scores of admitted by race. Our culture wants a diverse representation of doctors. Which results in the average asian admitted student having a hugely higher MCAT/GPA and a very low admittance rate. Look it up - it used to be easy to find but it's a little harder now on purpose (I think). Edit: I understand the liberal point of view. But it doesn't feel nice for any individual asian guy trying to fulfill his dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:10 PM
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I don't understand. Obviously I've dated. A lot of older fatter nurses would love to date me. What does that prove? BTW, do you know how much harder it is for an asian man to get into medical school vs. a white man? The reverse affirmative action is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:59 PM
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Eventually. But this isn't about marriage. I'm an Indian-American guy who has the other valued attributes - tall, high income. Don't tell me my experience. I lived it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:54 PM
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It's called statistics and averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:37 PM
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The only race of men that married out more than the same race of women is Black. Indian men - no - you are looking out outdated statistics. Meanwhile EVERY OTHER race of women married out more. It is statistically clear that women are obsessed with white men, likely as a result of their sexual interest in domination and superiority. It's the same across species. It's only the human female that likes to pretend she's interested in helping the subjugated male. No other species pretends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:54 PM
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Oh yeah - Karen's are definitely real. And they exist outside of retail too. I'd estimate that a good 25% of women are Karens. Ridiculous demands. And there's not enough handsome tall white men to placate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:49 PM
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Literally everything you said is negated by actual dating statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:38 PM
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Are you serious? If I point out something I'm bothered by it? I'll honestly tell you what I'm bothered by: It's women's sense of moral superiority. When in actuality they are a much more racist gender. The "Karen" meme is just the epithelial surface. Imagine hearing day in and day out about how evil you are by the gender who is demonstrably much more racially cut-throat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:33 PM
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How convenient. Do you know the % of white Americans who even watch K-media? How about we just stick to the facts instead of what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:30 PM
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link me updated then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:50 PM
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More specifically, women. Including liberals like AOC, Ilhan Omar and Jayapala. Men, if anything, are obsessed with white, asian, and latina supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:43 PM
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Real Love is not ownership, jealousy, or control. I agree with this 110%. I just disagree with flirting for alcohol as a test for big dick energy. My dad is NPD and abused my poor mom for decades but she will never leave him. I really don't want to be my dad. Because I love my mom and I've seen what she's gone through and it's just not fair. So I think I know what a good guy is and your girl flirting for drinks isn't (necessarily) a sign of it!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:40 PM
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I didn't want to include black women because the OKCupid statistics showed they are the ONLY race of women that don't prefer white men over their own race - east asian, indian, middle eastern, hispanic - all did. Black women seem to actually want black men above other races, on average. But for other women, everything I said applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:06 PM
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As a black woman you are about the same sexual value as an Indian man. And before everyone gets angry at that - be angry at everyone (men AND women) and the reality that dating statistics show. What you want isn't a priority unless you're wanted: an asian/latina/white woman or a white man. At least the woman faction includes multiple races!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:52 PM
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Perhaps unfortunately, someone's race IS a big part of who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:32 PM
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Being serious: so big dick energy = doesn't mind your flirting with other guys for alcohol? To me that's either A. someone who doesn't really care about you that much (fwb) or B. condoning manipulation/deception. Big or small dick has nothing to do with it. If I actually loved a woman, I wouldn't take any amount of money in exchange for someone else enjoying her company.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:23 PM
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They mean ON AVERAGE, genius. By mid 30's the guys who got a lot of pussy as younger men are still getting decent pussy and some of the guys who didn't get any are finally getting some (if they worked on themselves and built successful careers). It doesn't mean the hottest or "player-est" guy you can find will be in his mid 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:41 PM
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Why stop at flirting for free drinks? You can spread your legs and bring the money back to him. The fact that he doesn't mind = relationship goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:36 PM
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Expect? Well maybe not. But would she be delighted if it happened? Absolutely. Ilhan Omar certainly was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:16 PM
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They don't expect gigachad. They do however expect a tall, white, somewhat fit man with education and good income. Which is a small % of the population. Whereas men are O.K. with tall/average/short, white/hispanic/asian/black, muscular/thin/a little chubby, no education/medium education/high education, unemployed/employed - women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:36 PM
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Or you could just...you know....add game. I've known so many guys with female friends who privately complain about being friendzoned. They get stuck in that rut. Just look how common that complaint is on reddit. On the other hands, guys that have an active sex life don't necessarily have many (non-fwb) female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:32 PM
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Great strategy to make female friends. Question is - how often do female friends have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:12 PM
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Men go bald and get fatter faces as they age. Do women find them as sexy as before? I bet not. But if they had a good relationship and were once attracted to them (e.g. not married them when they were fat & bald just for money, for e.g.) - they still love them even with the fatter face and balding head. It's called emotional bonding. But stop believing women who say 45 y/o female celebrities are smoking hot. They're there to appease the female audience, not the male audience. And if you want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:48 AM
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Play the field with multiple women and find amusement in how they compete for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:40 AM
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The main reason it shrinks is because THEY choose to shrink it - to men at their socioeconomic level or above. They could easily choose not to. When men say they don't care much about her job - it doesn't mean a good job is valued less than a poor job. It just means the good job doesn't make any difference to their attractiveness. But I hope everyone still does things even if they don't improve their attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:53 PM
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It definitely wouldn't be everyone. I'm not talking about "doing bad things sometimes". I gave you 3 very specific examples. Because everyone can be selfish or a jerk sometimes. But these show pre-abuse signs of isolating, lowering confidence, and controlling. We can agree to disagree. But here's what I think the "normal" response would be in each: Expressing dislike or ridiculing your gf's friend or family member but then stopping when she expressed dislike. Because you don't have a need to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:31 PM
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You've got to be kidding me. Women regularly reject someone for far more spurious reasons. Sure, nobody is perfect. But every future abuser displays this behavior intermittently. Even the world's greatest actors can't stay in character for that long. For example, criticizing/ridiculing your friends and family members even after you took offense is an attempt to isolate, insulting your loved one's appearance on purpose (i.e. to purposely hurt them) is an attempt to lower confidence and trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:58 PM
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That's fine. It's just that your "hobby" (I can't really consider club-hopping to be a hobby) predisposes you to meeting men who are more likely to be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:32 PM
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Step 1: Throw away all the pseudo-psychology - "nice guy", "love bombing", handsome=nice, ugly=bitter etc. It's not fool-proof and sometimes more likely to be wrong than right. You're not a psychologist. Step 2: Look for very early signs before it turns into actual abuse. e.g. Overly critical of her friends/family, a dig at her appearance when upset, controlling her plans for the day and getting upset when she resists. If she's in love, many women will rationalize these as "he's just opinionated…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:16 PM
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There are always signs before that which they ignore. e.g. Overly critical of her friends/family, a dig at her appearance when upset, controlling her day's plans and getting upset when she resists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:10 PM
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For most people that's a relatively short period of their life - say from 21 to 30. After that, it implies less favorable things about you unless you want to live like an unstable rock star minus the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:05 PM
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One reason is they may feel overeager to be in a relationship The first part makes sense. But a guy dictating a bunch of rules ≠ overeager to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:00 PM
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There is no projection because frankly we don't have to worry about picking between tingles vs respect/safety. How many men complain about their gf being an abusive jerk? The biggest danger to us is catching a domestic assault charge for pushing an abusive woman out of the way or threatening to hit her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:25 PM
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Scooters are easier. It may be partially related to his situation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/22 10:18 PM
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It may be cringe - but it's also the most human thing I've seen all week. We need to stop dissing occasional cringe. Because if you're human you're going to be cringe at times. Avoiding cringe means you keep your emotions to yourself, stay in the shadows forever, and die alone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/22 10:17 PM
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What does that prove? He's still not Chad. The tinder statistics have been done on this. But you don't need to be Chad to get decent looking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:04 AM
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If Chad is the epitome of women's desires, and statistics show every single race of women finds white men the most desirable, than it stands to reason that there's a reason why Chad is white.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:51 AM
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And East Asian Chads are called "Changs" and South Asian Chads are called "Chadpreet". But none of them beats out actual Chad. There is a racial hierarchy to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:49 AM
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That's like saying a person who is fucking awful and laughed off stage at American Idol auditions has a chance vs. a talented person far away doesn't. We have instagram now. Male celebrities have dropped into the DM's of hot nobodies. She might be a "smoking hot cashier" today but tomorrow she's a model and influencer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:44 AM
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The loneliness of a single man at 30 and a single man at 70 isn't that different. The average woman has a lot more to lose. They actually have social circles and lovers and boyfriends and friends and all of that. Going from the target of everyone's affection to a withered old outcast is a lot more brutal. Some will adapt to it, but some will actually be hurt by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:38 AM
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When people say "die alone" they are not actually talking about the minutes as death occurs. They are talking about the years preceding it. Someone else said it best... r/im14andthisisdeep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:32 AM
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I always considered that to be something Chads do for added experiment on bodies they don't care about. "Let me try out that hole now". I've never heard of a guy actually pester his girlfriend for anal. That's something you see in fwbs and booty calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:21 AM
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I've seen examples of men going full-Liberace. (What's that guy who makes millions doing youtube makeup tutorials?) Still not interested. So I don't think you can just chalk it up to accoutrements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:18 AM
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Never miss an opportunity for us to bow our heads to how much women suffer. Give me a f'ing break.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:15 AM
3

Next, write an essay for why women should want short ethnic janitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:03 AM
1

This post doesn't require there to be a male hivemind. Just that whatever you consider to be "high" is rightfully gross and you don't have to defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:00 AM
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This is really unfair. Should I treat all women like whores because some are prostitutes? I have lingering symptoms from a TBI from my early 20s that occurred from an assault and robbery after I got in between the attacker and my mother - but am I to blame too because I'm a man? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:22 PM
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That's nonsensical to me. Being risky and impulsive and exciting gets you a lot more women. Not being safe and predictable and gentlemanly. Guess which one insane people and murderers tend to be? You could just look for safe predictable responsible people. You don't have to look for people who are taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:10 PM
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Don't you know that you're guilty because you're also black a man? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:00 PM
0

True as long as she still has an active sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:59 PM
2

I bet you also cry for OnlyFans models and strippers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:57 PM

People just pick what benefits them. Wokeness benefits women more than men. The only time they deviate is on the transgender issue when women actually lose out by wokeness policies (college sports). But for the most part they will go with the ideology that says they deserve the same pay as male pro athletes despite vastly lower revenues and the same representation as male corporate leaders despite vastly lower rates of participation in the pipeline. Why the heck not? Case in point: I'm an asian …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:49 PM
1

You realize they're all addicted to opiates and coke right? No. Especially not successful entertainers. The ones that do develop disorders that interfere with their performance, like lindsay lohan and the olsen twins, get pushed out. Entertainment industry is very competitive. High class isnt defined by what some socially elitist twats with money and power say. Their definitions clearly leave them with unhappy and unfulfilling relationships so who give af what they define as high class. They don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:50 AM
1

What female celebrity drug addict got married to a rich man? Maybe someone who formerly had a drug problem, but no rich successful man would stupidly pick a current drug addict. Anycase, what makes someone high class is only two things: wealth, and ability to fit in with other "high class" people. Everything else is just individual opinion on what "high class" is. For example, high class people can be uneducated at times (think of grade school drop out billionaires in China or India) or cause gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:18 AM
1

A very powerful and rich man isn't going to choose a drug addict, even if his wealth came from drugs. She's more likely to be some beauty pageant queen with good table manners and refinement. e.g. the same kind of woman an equally rich guy might have who wasn't a criminal - hence my point. The drug addicts and lower-class women are going to be trafficked among the foot soldiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:48 AM
1

For no kids I said 38, 35 was for wanting kids. Nobody is cutting anyone off. Those women are just less competitive. Even actresses and models are less competitive by then - and they can take care of themselves and keep themselves up 100x better than the average women. If you look at brushed-up/photoshopped pics of geriatric female celebrities in bikinis - 80% of the positive comments are from hetero women and 20% from very thirsty low-value men. No women should be lied to that she can just keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:43 PM
1

Sure! This assumes both parties want biological kids the natural way, so I get that. I don't think so. This is even without wanting kids. It's really not that different than competing in sports. There is an age limit after which you are less desirable for a new relationship. Not zero desirable, but I think after 38 it goes down a lot and you are unlikely to get the best possible partner for yourself. Obviously both sides are competing. (For wanting kids it's even lower, around 35, because that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:24 PM
2

How about the women dating pro athletes with assault records? Are they low class too? Or the women dating successful financial scammers like wall street chop shops or crypto frauds? Sure, being a low-level drug dealer in a slum will get you low-level women. But a cartel boss? She's likely to be very high class. Heck, if you have money, you can rent a high-class escort (a crime) in major cities like NYC and LA who has a master's degree and speaks 3 languages. The point is women don't care about c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:17 PM
5

Three years is nothing. There probably is a time gap big enough that makes it better, but women are only highly marriageable until 35-38 or so. You don't have all the time in the world. As for an average or low-experience man being unhappy with waiting vs. the anonymous player who got it on a whim: it's not just about the effort vs. reward. Whether women understand it or not, it's incredibly insulting and invalidating. Maybe it would be fine if she was paying for everything and pursuing me inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:08 PM
2

Not something women have any interest in caring about until it affects them. In the age of Only Fans, Tinder harems, and Andrew Tate - do you think men are going to treat you nicely? What was chivalry in the past is now simping. And people outright mock it. The Rough sex murder defense is increasing in popularity. And men look up to the men who do get a lot of beautiful women - and those men are more likely to be walkng them around in leashes, spitting on them, and have them engage in degrading …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:06 PM
2

At bars, clubs, social events, sports teams, concerts, meetup/hobby groups etc, you can OBSERVE men who are average with girlfriends or dating. Considering that women rated 80% of men as being below average, I believe you. They forget that being above-average height, decently fit, white, no hair thinning - is already above average. Even though it doesn't even meet the bare minimum for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:48 PM
15

Are you saying you're among the <1% of women who approach men first? That's really the downside of being an ugly man. You can't just wait around and hope something happens. Because the man is supposed to make something happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:15 AM
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Why do you think everything is unrelated? As pretty much every article writer has noted, men don't approach women as much anymore in 2022 vs the past because the downsides of being viewed as a potential creep, harasser, loser, nuisance, etc. is higher. If you lack looks, you are not going to be able to stomach the hundreds of negative interactions before you get a success. I've even known guys that are great salesman and can stomach plenty of rejection and let it roll of their back. But when it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:10 PM
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So if you don't have looks - you can't even open the door. Exactly. I don't get why people keep gaslighting men about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:56 PM
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Rarely is anything because of 1 reason. Both extremes are silly. e.g. - someone could benefit from improving their social skills, but they're also ugly and it hurts their prospects a lot. Someone comes from an obese family, but they could exercise more and be chubby instead of morbidly obese. Capitalism and immigration hurt your income prospects, but you also could have trained for a higher paying profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:48 PM
2

How else would average (or more commonly slightly above average) women get regular sex from super hot guys? Of course those guys, combined with their income/career, will then dedicate themselves to a woman "better" than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:08 PM
1

I have a hard time respecting women sometimes because so many of them get off (especially sexually) to being controlled and even abused. If it was a trait evenly distributed among genders it would be classified as a psychiatric disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:03 PM
0

Does this piss-poor gaslighting ever work? Random insult followed by saying they're insecure if they didn't like it? You're not clever enough to be manipulative, so best that you just stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:58 PM
1

Yes, the wagon was not a very specific analogy for a very specific point. Instead, I'm actually looking for a female human who is rectangular shaped, capable of towing 500 lbs, and has feet shaped like circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:53 AM
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Your first mistake is comparing wimen with a wagon. And I'm sure you have no requirements of the man you will dedicate your life to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:44 AM
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Nice insult. I'm tall and I have a full head of hair. But I bet you don't have the politically-(in)correct guts to make fun of my actual physical disadvantage when it comes to women: I'm asian - but I won't tell you if it's east asian (chinese) or south asian (indian). Because women tend to stereotype too much and I shouldn't add to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:35 AM
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Tossed away is the operative word. If you were a man - would you want to hitch your wagon, so to speak, to a woman that 5 men passed on? "Yay, I got the nasty old leftovers that a more desired man didn't think was worth it. Hence she's still looking at age 36." Usually she also has kids from him for you to take care of and raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:27 AM
3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAgaDdvEDf8
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:02 AM
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Every guy already knows that early to mid 20s women are the prize. I know you know that too. Are you saying that you are at a premium right now? We already know that, dummy. But you'll become a 30-something woman too someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:44 AM
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I'm a guy and my goal is to get the loosest community bicycle possible. I also don't know why men wouldn't prefer dedicating their lives to a woman who has been pumped, dumped and tossed away x5 by age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:31 AM
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You can be fit straight-laced engineer or medical student in your 20's. That doesn't mean you're going to get a woman. It's a simple fact that women in their 20s go for handsome fun losers. The could care less about education, long-term drive or even criminal records. You get the sloppy desperate 2nds (or more likely, 12ths).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:29 AM
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No. I know many people wealthier than me in my social circle. So if my gf was better off than me - I'd be used to it. Good for her. Better than her having to rely on me financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:37 PM
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I don't think it's overblown. It's just that nothing is as important as good looks and charisma. If you start your first day as a neurosurgeon at a community hospital you'll probably get a lot of interest from women initially - but if you're a chubby Indian dude with a serious demeanor - it'll be gone by day 2. And your muscular surgical tech who makes 10% of your salary but flirts with all the girls will beat you for female attention (especially with younger hotter women).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:33 PM
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It's a gradual progression from 30 to late 30's. Early 30's are almost as youthful as 20's. Mid-30's is transitional. And late 30's has a noticeable difference. So the wall is more like 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:18 AM
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Film and TV actresses do NOT look like typical 30-somethings. You're taking some of the most beautiful and charismatic people and holding them up to be representative of an age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:57 PM
1

Most people can't achieve 100% contentless as a solitary lone figure through life. Things like dogs, weighted blankets, and friends (though as you age friends will disengage with you in favor of their spouse, children, and family) can help. But most humans are very social creatures. It's really not more complicated than that. If you fear that a relationship might turn negative and don't want to risk it - you do you. But it's not an enlightened point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:53 PM
1

In a modern society, physical aggressiveness is usually doing bad things, is it not? I doubt all these men are in militias protecting their community. What do you think they meant by "physical aggressiveness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:20 PM
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100% no way. I don't have anywhere near the energy to be a single parent. And I'm not comfortable with that level of responsibility either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:10 PM
1

I agree. But that's just our opinion. However in their usage of "good communicator" that is exactly what they meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:13 AM
2

Damn. Okay. Keep working those reddit mines then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:51 PM
2

I saw a vid once where the father had to pick a boyfriend for her daughter (both were white). They started out with a mix of guys, but mostly white. He selected them down to 2 white guys and 2 black guys lol. I could feel the political correctness through the screen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:47 PM
1

For average guys, she's cute. But she's playing in the field with youtube guys. In that arena, she's barely average. Maybe even a little below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:44 PM
1

I think she's cute too. But the youtube guys are above her in looks. On the street among average guys - she would be cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:43 PM
2

It's true that someone can treat you badly if they are devoted to you (a stalker) OR undevoted to you (a user). But if you look at what women most often complain about vis-a-vis dating men, it's 95% about lack of devotion. They say they want him to be emotionally available (fall in love with me), good communicator (not ghost me, respond to me over other girls), share similar values (be monogamous with me, not dm other girls), etc. And it's just logical that you are statistically less likely to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:40 PM
6

Damn you that was a good comeback, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:24 PM
2

This is like saying having to use a wheelchair is a "strength" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:19 PM
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You're not tight if 6 inches is too small for you. Your previous big dick casual partners have ruined you sexually for other men. And you ARE replacing a guy's dick with a dick sleeve. If a condom decreases the sensation, I can't imagine how much a thick piece of silicon that remains stationary over your dick would inhibit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:16 PM
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Oh god, no. And this is why women shouldn't get upset when men say they only want to dedicate themselves to a low n-count woman. The only way someone could enjoy this is if he has some kind of masochistic cuckold fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:13 PM
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I can almost guarantee ‘creepy just means ugly’ isn’t repeated outside of incl circles, I’m willing to bet money. The discussion of whether Creepy=Ugly was popular as early as 2010. The mega-popular feminist pub The Atlantic wrote an essay on it in 2013 where it referenced views in other magazines. Do you just think online men don't exist in the real world? "Creepy" is the #1 gendered insult towards a man in a dating/sexual environment. Do you think men aren't going to discuss what it means??? (…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:11 AM
3

Give me an estimate in the form of a number. Not hypotheticals of being stuck in abusive relationships. Let's first define how severe your definition of "settling" is. Again - If nobody settles, do 10% of people end up alone? 20% of people? 75% of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:55 PM
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Physical intimacy (which might be hugs, kisses, cuddling, anything) is important. But full-on sex is not a requirement, imo. The evidence is the millennia before birth control in the 1960s. Pre-sexual revolution, the vast majority of middle-class people didn't even have pre-marital sex. And after they had enough kids, they didn't continue to have steady sex until old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:51 PM
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Besides what u/MasterTeacher123 said, failure also discourages others from trying it out. One reason I never tried it is because a friend went to one back in 2008 or something and said it was useless. I know ever Tom, Dick and Helen online thinks they are a psychologist and a business consultant. e.g. "Supply and Demand!" "Businesses only care about making money!" But when you aren't an expert you should just stick to basic principles - e.g. the way to succeed in business is to provide a good pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:29 PM
3

You can't even define what settling is. This might help: If nobody "settles" (per your definition), what percentage of people would end up alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:23 PM
1

OK, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:05 PM
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There are other options besides dying alone and being with someone who drives you wild (in a bad way). To me (and the popular definition) settling is still getting some of what you want, just not all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:24 PM
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I'm not commenting on whether it is good or bad to want to be "child-free" (much less whether we should try to stop them). I was merely pointing out that more women are interested in it now. And as a pediatric oncologist, shouldn't you know that being "shit at it" (parenting) isn't a risk factor for childhood cancer? Environmental factors take many years to develop and thus don't paly much role in pediatric oncology. Are you blaming the parents for inherited gene mutations?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:21 PM
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Depends on your definition of settle. By the most concrete definition, that would require the vast majority of the population to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:14 PM
4

If history is any indication (which it should be) - take any popular future prediction and multiply the time frame by 10 or 20. People have been talking about robots since the 1960s around the time the microwave became popular. If mid 20th century predictions were accurate, we would've been traveling in personal flying cars and visiting the moon on vacation before the year 2000.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:12 PM
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I don't think enough Average Annies are going to come around. They're already talking about how they're fine being alone and how great it is to be "childfree". The cat-lady memes really don't phase them. They just listen to the "never settle" mantra from their girl friends and maybe once in a while pop onto online dating sites for some affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:45 PM
12

Robots aren't even making a cheeseburger yet and people are already thinking they'll replace human love in our lifetime. Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:42 PM
21

That's exactly what happened in South Korea in the last presidential election.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:40 PM
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Every guy I know in real life is A LOT more aware of women. Even blue-pilled men a few years ago are now saying stuff like "creepy just means ugly". I read a CNN article a few months ago about even little boys calling each other simps. And most males reacting to the article laughed about it and agreed about simping. CNN article: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/health/what-is-simp-teen-slang-wellness/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:35 PM
1

These normal cute dudes have you as a female friend which means they are probably pretty social and have other female friends too. If a 7/10 guy is very social and has a lot of women around him - he can live like a 9/10 sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:28 PM
0

Whenever I've had a mixed gender friends group, there is usually 1 guy that gets most of the women's interest. Maybe that's your problem - too much competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:24 PM
1

I purposely said cold-selling and not cold-calling because it entails doing it face-to-face. Anonymously cold-calling is like sending out DMs. You can pump out a hundred of them without thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:16 AM
2

That's what I was thinking, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:52 PM
12

Wow you kind of threw in everything. "He is likely bad in bed" "He has a small dick" "He is in the closet" "He has a cuckold fetish". Reminds me of the previous post about how men who want younger (20's) women are "likely abusive" "want to prey on women" "are insecure" Maybe that's why women are so intrigued by fields like pseudo-psychology and astrology. You can ascribe all kinds of traits to people without any actual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:48 PM
1

As a guy, early 30s, I no longer believe in love like in the movies ("the one"). There are only two things: lust and friendship. And lust runs out before 40 (excluding celebrities and hyper-beautiful people).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:22 PM
1

They are way more women interested in tall white men than there are tall white men. So why don't you go lecture women about that? Since you're so concerned with whether wants match up to supply lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:31 PM
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Would you also tell a Chinese immigrant woman that she can't be in a relationship with a White american man because "she would rather someone that she has nothing in common with because she finds them better looking"? Who are you to judge who is appropriate for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:28 PM
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On your lecture: some exaggerations, but most of this all men already know. We are all very aware women 20-25 are at the top. Believe me, that's not news to any guy. So men do not wait until you are 30 to try date a 20 year old because by that time you are not as desirable to her. Do not buy into this ides men get more attractive as they age because the only thing that gets more attractive is your wallet. No guy past puberty waits by his own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:26 PM
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This has to be getting close to a psychiatric diagnosis. "I'm getting a 8 carat christen cut vintage..." You don't even have a date yet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/22 03:40 AM
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I think he was more of a rich-appearing metrosexual like Patrick Bateman. Do you consider Patrick Bateman to be masculine or dominant? In a way he is. But he doesn't actually physically confront anyone or command a group of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:50 AM
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If you're actually talking about someone who is 20-something and someone who is 60, the power imbalance, if there is one, is just as likely to be reversed. But I would say that manipulation and power-imbalances are very individual specific. It's a huge stretch to say that a 40-something man (60 is a sort of a ridiculous strawman) is going to dominate/abuse a woman more than a 20-something man. It would be a lot more fair to just look at the individual man instead of stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:56 PM
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What if it's a 42 year old man and a 22 year old woman who have similar levels of dating experience? (e.g. the man was a late bloomer, focused on his career, etc.) What exactly is missing that would make this a nefarious coupling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:52 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about by "years of experience". Does being a good partner require years of experience like doing neurosurgery? And does years of experience dating even make you a better partner? No, it does not. People have gone to war, founded billion dollar startups, and more at that age. Stop acting like a 22 year old is a child and a 42 year old is a wise elder stateswoman. It's just not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:50 PM
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No, a lot of older dudes go younger because they find them more physically attractive. I don't know why you don't believe that. But instead ascribe to them this weird nefarious desire to abuse them. As far as being easier to manipulate - that's obviously much more individual-specific. There are plenty of easy-to-manipulate 40-somethiens and headstrong 20-somethings. I think you know all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:46 PM
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Liking 40-something women over 20-something women somehow makes you a nicer person, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:28 PM
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That's the same as telling women they can do all the same stuff with short, ethnic men. Well, they're attracted to young women. Accepting that shouldn't be so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:25 PM
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Curious - what do old dudes do that younger dudes don't? Generally, men become more mature, less aggressive, and less unpredictable/risk-taking with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:22 PM
1

If you're talking about the picture in the twitter handle, it's a picture of famous German writer W. G. Sebald. But I think the twitter handle actually belongs to a woman ("Martha").
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:34 PM
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You misconstrued it - I don't have an agenda. So I'm not "walking into" anything. But I do realize that only people who have had that experience once (out of potential hundreds interactions) will speak up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:01 PM
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You don't know what you're talking about. If you ever tried cold-selling then it's something like that. Entering a blank situation and turning it into a romantic encounter. It's not easy and it's not nothing. It's actually pretty hard. And something women aren't tasked with doing. But pretty much all men have to succeed in it if they're ever going to get a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:24 AM
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Do not overreact to a woman telling you no, do not try to harm her. Would like it if another man decide to harm your mother, your sister just because she told him no? Would like it if a woman you are not interested in at all, started to physically harm you, just because you told her no? Be a respectful human being. How often does this actually happen that it needs to be said? I can't imagine it is a common issue. Myself, if I'm rejected, I sulk away quietly with some embarrassment. The LAST thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:48 PM
15

Women are rarely the initiators. There really isn't as much to "get" as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:19 PM
2

Nobody said anything about staring at someone. An ugly guy sitting alone at a bar and glancing at a woman is more than enough for women to call him 'creepy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:15 PM
3

Guys can't go around offering relationships/marriage to women. The woman has to want them for sex first. So I'd say women have sex options and some guys (the ones selected for sex) have relationship options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:11 PM
1

I would be sad for them if they struggled with something that big. I view it as just as bad as struggling with education or career. Because it means you likely won't find a good life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:08 PM
1

Yeah, that's why I can't take BP seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:27 AM
1

They have no fucking clue, lol! I think they don't realize how homogenous women's preferences can be. They think they're unique for liking tall, white, handsome-faced men with fit bodies - and surely there are plenty of women with different preferences. I'm a tall Indian guy and my female friends think I'm cleaning up on Tinder (I'm definitely not). They actually think I could get a one night stand anytime (I've never managed to get that, ever. And in fact I've only had one girlfriend despite be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:16 AM
1

Yes, but there are plenty of sweet receptionists and rich Karens walking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 10:43 PM
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He likely means women his age. Presumably he considers himself young too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 01:23 PM
4

Fuck boys are rude people they don’t form connections and end up Lonely, and toxic Just-world hypothesis. In reality, a fuck boy has a lot of options to marry different women of his choosing and have extramarital affairs and intimacy if he so chooses. Fuck boys have more devotion, from more different women, than any beta could ever dream of. A beta on the other hand has to work for it. A give-and-take. This is like comparing a trust fund hundred-millionaire to a working man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:34 AM
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is "being rich won't make you happy" energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:28 AM
3

Of course. I have nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:29 AM
2

I would challenge the idea it's even safer. If anything it creates a false sense of safety. If you take two groups of men - 1. socially shy, depressed, poor self-image and 2. socially skillful, very confident, type A, high self-image - I don't think the there is a clear conclusion on who is more likely to take advantage of someone. You're doing just what OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:41 PM
4

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:01 PM
4

But getting with an uglier guy isn’t necessarily going to make him any more likely to stay with her. It does. Honestly I found the age of men is more likely to represent whether they want a serious relationship than the attractiveness of men. A hot 29 year old guy is probably more likely to want to start a family than an average 19 year old. This is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:14 PM
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Honestly only 10% of guys can get regular casual sex outside of a relationship. But some of them still choose to be in the other 50% of people in relationship. So probably a pretty small percent of single guys are having sex regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:55 PM
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If men collectively had more dignity/self respect and actually set standards for who they date/have sex with, then they could also have the luxury of fucking and dating the people that they wanted, or staying sexless and single. It's not really in any 1 guy's control. If Joe Average sets any standards, he'll get nothing because Chad is always willing to say yes to free sex from anyone 2-3 ranks below. The only winning strategy is to wait until late 30's and offer security and fidelity to an agin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:52 PM
4

Except to advertise OnlyFans...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:47 PM
8

If you look at a couple in a monogamous relationship, they are much better matched looks-wise. I rarely see a handsome guy with a girl even 2 points below him. But the dating market isn't people who are already coupled. They are people who are dating. And it's very easy to have something that's casual to one person (i.e. handsome guy who wants action) and serious to the other (i.e. less pretty girl who complains about guys not staying with her).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:47 PM
2

Red flags don't stop women unless they are looking to get married soon (and sometimes not even then). For e.g., if red flags stopped women, no guy with prison tattoos would ever get a date which would lead to no guys getting prison tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:42 PM
2

What part do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:23 PM
3

First you have to be social and take risks. Then you have to subtract for handicaps - like being short, being overweight, not being white/white-hispanic (exception: black women prefer black men), being unemployed/under-employed. After all that, a large segment of the U.S. male population - about 40% - does fine without any additional work. The rest of them need to put in work to increase their socialization and/or decrease the handicaps in their control. After which, 60-80% of the U.S. male popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:08 PM
1

I'm very familiar with the science and I was responding specifically to the statement "past 35+ the quality of the sperm sharply declines." Women reach 60% fertility by age 36. Men by age 51. That's a big difference. Serious chromosomal abnormalities from maternal age at 45 are 1 in every 25 pregnancies. That's huge. That's a 2,500% increase from age 20. For men? rare single gene disorders, schizophrenia and autism increases around 20, 30, and 50% from incidences that already start off VERY RARE…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 11:20 PM
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We also shouldn't be treating you in the hospital with advanced immunotherapies and robotic surgery - yet here we are. Next time, you get what they got in the past - a study of your 4 humors and a cut on the side of the abdomen to let out some blood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:22 PM
1

https://www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/fei/at-what-age-does-fertility-begin-to-decrease/ Look at the graph. If you don't like the scientific source, find others which will show the same. But don't spread lies about fertility.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 09:57 PM
4

You seem to think that men, who have been happily married for years, are like the alien in Predator (1987) who stalks around and computer-analyzes the hottest targets. But I assure you we do form very strong emotional bonds. And cold sexual attraction can be replaced with a deeper, more comfortable, familiarity and appreciation. Yes, it's not exactly the same thing, but in some ways its even better. And better aligned to what people want in older age. But it takes time and there needs to have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:32 PM
44

With so many options, it’s not surprising that women are increasingly selective. I do a live TikTok show (@abetterloveproject) and speak with hundreds of audience members every week; I hear recurring dating themes from women between the ages of 25 and 45: They prefer men who are emotionally available, good communicators, and share similar values. emotionally available = chad falls in love with me good communicator = chad responds to my txts over other girls share similar values = chad wants to b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/22 10:25 PM
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This is OK for 50% of men. But if you're average or below you are not going to get flirtations or even minor cues of sexual interest for the first 40 years of your life. Every below average or average guy I know who has a gf approached with zero cues of sexual interest. I'm 6/10 and 31 y/o and have lived a pretty social life, but I've still gotten less than a dozen cues in my entire life. Let's say I'd accept 50% of them (men should have some standards too). That would mean I get 6 dates? Once e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:37 PM
1

You and I have very different ideas of "maturity". I mean, do you think rutting baboons are mature? They form "reproductive groups" and swap regularly. Generally speaking, instinct and sex isn't maturity. I think maturity is the advanced social structure we create around the pair-bond. Which eventually might include a nuclear family with defined roles and goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:42 PM
2

Don't quit your day job to be an amateur psychologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:04 PM
2

Why? If you're not one of them - how do they effect you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:02 PM
1

It's a sausage fest + the fewer women that are present are very picky. The first is proven by the well known gender breakdown. The latter is proven by (1) the % of right-swipes men do vs. women do and (2) the % of likes that become matches for men vs. for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:31 PM
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You call this logic? She's confusing all sorts of things. By her logic, a drug trial that has 75,000 random men and 25,000 random women might have p values of .015 vs .019 but the effect on women is still not statistically valid. Or just the really basic math error of mixing percentages inappropriately. It would be 33.33% of men, not 25% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:46 PM
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You misunderstand basic statistics. It may be flawed, but NOT because it's 75-25 male to female. 25% of whatever the user base of Tinder is, is still a colossally large sample size. But just like the men, those women may not be representative of the population. But we assume they are. "if women literally had no standards only %25 of men could actually get matches" No. Again basic math problem. It would be 33.33% of men. If the total size is 100, there are 25 women and 75 men. 25, or one-third of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:41 PM
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I agree. A guy with many options = fishing as a fun hobby A guy with few options = subsistence fishing to not starve. The same activity can be fun or stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:31 PM
1

Well you can't say that or else you get the bagel guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:28 PM
1

max = (age+2)/8
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:21 PM
2

Talk to many women. And wait until one smiles with her eyes at you and laughs at your comments more than usual. Then you try to get one-on-one time with her. If you are handsome it will happen very quickly. If you're not - it could take a very long time. Most men who are lonely are not handsome and gave up too quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:10 PM
2

Women have a lot of disadvantages. But in return, society really bends over backwards to support them. There's a reason we have separate tennis rankings and chess rankings for men vs women. And there's a reason why we have recruitment drives specifically targeting women in high-power high-money professions like wall street, tech/engineering, and specialty surgery. Anytime a scenario arises where women are losing - everyone comes together to prop them up in the name of equality (current abortion …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:52 PM
1

No. I guess I'm annoyed by pseudo-science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:54 AM
1

Do you have these men's blood test results? I assure you that's not how testosterone works. It's very possible Cooper has high T and it's perfectly possible that Renner has below average T. Maybe you are thinking of growth hormone which tends to have a more masculinizing effect on ADULT facial bone structure. Though both Renner and Cooper likely are within normal ranges of booth T and GH. Instead of being a pseudo medical doctor, just describe the faces you like. Because nobody knows what you me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:05 AM
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When you're told your problem is you aren't "confident enough" "emotionally available" or a "good communicator" ....then you focus on that instead of what actually, statistically, works - like having a six pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:56 AM
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Definitely. Because they would have more time to accept and adapt to the reality. Instead, an average or below-average guy takes the advice of women and "has confidence" to go for whoever he wants. As a result, he gets a look of disgust and maybe even overhears an "ewwww" she says to her girlfriends. This happens a lot because the baseline of culture is blue pill. That doesn't help. You'd be surprised at how many average and below-average young men still think that confidence and being emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:51 AM
1

Oh my mistake. I didn't read it carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:20 AM
1

The expected value of his salary is ((3.5*2)*10,000) - 65,000 = $5,000/year. So I hope you ladies are OK being the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:33 AM
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OLD is a business meant to make money. It's not meant to help people date or find a relationship or hookup. It's meant to make money, first and foremost. Pet peeve, but why do some people always say this about "X" as if it's an intelligent revelation nobody else knows? That computer maker you bought your laptop from? Trying to make money. This social site you're posting on? Trying to make money. Those glasses you use to see what you type and write? Trying to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:11 PM
2

Yes. I've talked to some of them and you'd be surprised how many of the women are in their 50's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:34 PM
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Most guys here are in their 20s and some are even older. I'm 31. And any case, most people don't commit suicide. Just like we still drive a car because most people don't die in car crash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:35 PM
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From what I understand, it is 99.99% correct. Now let's wait for women to admit the same for red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:25 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb46mJmppN4 That guy had a mental health issue. Fear of a mental health issue isn't reason enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:37 AM
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It's just not a significant factor unless (A) she is so poor/indebted that it causes you financial stress or (B) she is successful and brags/has an attitude about it. EDIT: Out of curiosity, how would you feel dating a woman who made a lot more money than you? Would it put you off or would you be cool with it, and what would your expectations be? It's not the money. It's the bragging, looking down, using it as a weapon, etc. Rather have a sweet prekindergarten teacher than a surgeon who makes yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:53 PM
3

Temporarily feeling worse? And that's the worst case scenario. Still better than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:23 PM
1

Because they realize it's unrealistic and they don't need it to be happy? e.g. they mature? Plenty of young women idolize celebrity heart-throbs and have a poster of one or more of them in their room. Are you saying at 45 she should still desire a partner with that level of attractiveness/fame/wealth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:37 PM
1

For me personally, it was more about loneliness/intimacy than actual physical sex drive. I feel like that's a more basic need. After that is sorted out - then the actual sex life becomes more of a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:27 PM
1

If you're 54 and I'm 31, who would know more young couples - me or you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:18 PM
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You should do a wider survey of single men in their 30's - not just those you agree to go on a date on. I think you'll find that the guys who get a lot of dates/attention are going to do the rational thing and be pickier - including about marriage. Women have always complained about guys in their 30s not wanting marriage. But to even be a marriage prospect in the first place, a guy has to be at least slightly above average in several different areas. And then he gets bombarded by something like …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:13 PM
1

I had depression in my 20s largely due to my loneliness and lack of a romantic partner. This in turn hurt my education and career performance greatly. If you don't have a girlfriend and aren't lonely - that might be good though. No distraction. But most people get lonely without intimacy/companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:54 PM
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Even if 0 girls were foodie calls, you're not going to have sex with everyone you buy dinner for. Also, you probably wouldn't have paid for your meal either if you weren't on a date. Then there's alcohol. Assuming no alcohol: $60 a date, with alcohol: $90. Have sex with 25% of them. So the true price might be around $360. Not "dropping $20-30".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:44 PM
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It's normal for it to change - some up, some down. What's interesting is that on average it changes UP (higher standards). That's the question OP was asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:28 PM
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Wow. You ran out of things to blame men on - so you're down to Maslow's hierarchy and the reproductive drive. OP - we got your answer: there are more lonely people (especially men) because of nature. Case closed. Everyone go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:03 PM
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Harpies? More like goldilocks up high in her tower looking down on average men - except she has diabetes and the blonde hair is fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:55 PM
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Summary: it's entirely the economy/men's fault. You should write for a women's mag.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:42 PM
1

That's basically married and even then, you'd be surprised at how often the guy pays more than 50% or all of it. The problem is all those women who say "I'm a catch" because I have a PhD, my own business, a "great career" - men know all of that translates to diddly squat for them - other than her being more demanding/critical of him and less appreciative. On the other hand, if a man has achieved things, a woman can actually expect fancier experiences and less contribution required of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:31 PM
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Two reasons: Women never share their money anyway unless they get married (which is getting less and less). There are guys in 5 year relationships with a girl and she still doesn't contribute to gas money. Women have intrinsic labor value by being a homemaker. Many men, all the way down to those who can only barely afford it, are open to having a full-time housewife that takes care of them. Men don't care about spa days, expensive jewelry/handbags, or even a fancy kitchen and upgraded tiles/cabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:56 AM
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If it was a man scamming a woman for 20k you'd blame him. But since it's a woman scamming a man he needs to "learn" from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:28 AM
1

What does that even mean? We bend over backwards for a cop-out when women make bad decisions. Maybe it's her dad issues, maybe it's society, maybe it's male strangers online, maybe it's psychological trauma. But......maybe she just makes shitty choices? You know - like a lot of men also do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:11 AM
1

I think he/she means "rejects" as in the man doesn't approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:40 PM
1

Depends on how fat. There comes a level (starts somewhere after the obesity checkpoint) where man or woman - your gender becomes increasingly obscured. All the natural body and facial characteristics that make you "man" enough to people who like men or "woman" enough to people who like women - become decreased to such a degree that it doesn't work. Now, there are a minority of people who like big androgynous people who are more feminine or more masculine - but forcing that attraction is as impos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:41 PM
1

When did women start this cult of handsome = good guy? And ugly = bad guy? I've known nice handsome guys but I've also know some very cruel handsome guys. You know those 10/10 pretty girls who make fun of fat people or poor people? There are handsome guys like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:59 PM
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I think people just have a skewed idea of what an "average man" is. When people think of "average man" in the USA they think of an average white male who is 5'10" (average for white male) and slightly overweight. The problem is that 40% of men in the US are non-white, 40% are 5'8" or less, and 40% are obese. The average woman is not interested in the true "average man" in the US. What they think is "average" is really the aforementioned 5'10" white male. I'm not blaming men or women. Just saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:06 PM
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JustPearlyThings She's white and she's had black, white, asian (indian) girls as guests (she's in London). But every single guy she invites on is black. That's weird to me. (Just like it would be if every single guy she had on was white).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:08 AM
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I meant PRETTIER than him. And obviously getting to know a person is better. But in online dating you have tens or hundreds of thousands of people and you do need to make a snap judgment. You can't get to know everyone. And ON AVERAGE, if a guy is much prettier than you - he's not going to value you much. That is what I assumed was the case with OP. The study was about women being PRETTIER (or more attractive) than their husband. Not pretty women. If you are a 5/10 woman dating a 3/10 man - you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:05 AM
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Beyond factoring in attraction from the woman’s end a man’s looks do nothing and tell you nothing about him. You have to watch how he treats you. Obviously you have to look at how he treats you....to know how he treats you. But ON AVERAGE, guys in relationships with women prettier than them tend to treat them better (again - with "treating them better" being stuff like the OP said - essentially just valuing them more). You’re arguing lies. There’s women who get treated like crap by their average…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:02 PM
0

He either likes you or he doesn’t and trying to only date average or unattractive men isn’t going to save you from anything. No way am I promoting that as a solution. But ON AVERAGE it is true that men treat women who are more attractive than them better (meaning giving them more attention, not blowing them off, etc.). Not only is it common sense, it is backed up by countless studies, such as this one: https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/news/a17209/women-happier-uglier-men/ But you want to live in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:18 PM
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The only way to know if a man will treat you well is if he’s already shown he likes and values you. 100% correct. His circumstances and looks are irrelevant to that. 100% incorrect. It's not directly related. It's not like handsomeness comes with a personality trait to ignore people. But it is highly correlated due to a simple fact: People pay attention and give deference to people who are important or to people they want something from. Do you not agree? A handsome guy is not going to give the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:18 PM
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What do you mean? If attractiveness is very homogeneous - then women will select a small concentrated percentage of men. Who by virtue of having an over-abundance of options will act in ways that OP characterizes. BUT if women ever did date outside of that - those men will behave differently not because they are nicer/better/kinder/etc. but just because the circumstances for them are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:15 AM
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There is a huge amount of homogeneity when it comes to attractiveness to the point where A.I. can predict it. For both men and women. For example, for guys, it's not very different for what different guys like. Nobody is injecting fat into their jawline, decreasing their eye size, or adding wrinkles. Ditto for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:53 AM
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I see. Bro. Bro. Those are not the type of guy OP is dealing with. She was talking about a guy who didn't reply back timely, discounted her opinions, didn't value her time. What are we even talking about? I'm so lost now lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:11 AM
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No. I am literally the most average man ever. And I know above average men, and they don't act like me. And btw, any guy that gets multiple dates on Tinder is actually top 5-10%. So when women use their online dating experience as evidence of somthing they are not aware of the average man. (average man = 2 dates a year from OLD)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:53 AM
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You are so wrong it isn't even funny. I treated my high school girlfriend like a goddess (this was before redpill told me not to). And yes, I knew she was objectively "uglier" than the ideal. But I wanted her more than the ideal. If you were ever in love you'd understand this. Would I treat her (Toyota Corolla) the same way I'd treat a Maserati? Yeah, because there's a limit to how to treat someone. You can't go higher than max.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:13 AM
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. Whether he’s ugly, average or hot if he values you and likes you it will be obvious. If you’re confused about how he feels it’s because he doesn’t like or value you and in extreme cases he’ll show his dislike and resentment or he’ll just straight up ghost if he has other options. That I agree with 100%. I think where we disagree is the idea that ugly men don't have lower standards and that they aren't satisfied by those standards. IMO, men pair-bond just as well as women. I'm a sub-par looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:45 AM
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Hmmm. That's very interesting. I still disagree with you though. I'm one of the "lesser" men I referenced earlier. Have you heard of men fucking cantaloupes and car exhaust systems? We can go pretty low if it requires. But for our best option we get emotionally attached, I promise you. I honestly don't think if a former incel found a girlfriend and had a healthy relationship he would fuck it up just because. Men and women really do want the same thing. But the top men just have way too many opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:31 AM
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This is purplepilldebate where people are honest. I've told you what I've honestly seen and think. The only part I agree with you is that men only care about pretty women. We don't give a flying shit about you if you don't pass a minimum pretty threshold. (And I'm sure you'll disagree with this too - but the minimum pretty threshold is higher for handsome guys. Ugly guys have a much lower minimum pretty threshold, on average.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:03 AM
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And an average or ugly man can do the same thing. The only difference is depending on the woman and her self esteem she’ll do one of the following: If you believe people are rational, it would be less likely. You obviously don't believe that though. I'm a man. I've dated seriously for 20+ years. I'm telling you men act according to what gets them sex most efficiently. My friends who have a lot of options are more finicky and throw away options if it takes too much effort because they have many o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:40 AM
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A man is a man. Whether he’s ugly, average or hot he has the propensity to be an asshole. No duh. But we're talking about whether he treats an average girl with interest. The OP talked about a guy who blew her off, didn't value her time, didn't value her opinions, etc. Obviously if someone has many options they will value any one "lesser" option....less. The difference is. Women who only want yt men typically only go for yt men. They don’t go for poc men, make fun of those mens races and complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:29 AM
1

What is your point exactly? That all men who can't get women are like your friend who is racist (though even that is debatable according to women's definition - who say their attraction to white men is not racist but just a preference). I don't even understand your central thesis.... And how it differs from the scores of women who also want only white men, period?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:54 PM
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That's where pair-bonding comes into play (assuming a person hasn't had sex/romance with so many people that their ability to pair bond isn't diminished). When someone falls in love, they start obsessing about the other person and have blinders for any other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:42 AM
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The men calling you "beautiful" are not giving fake compliments. The downside is, they have lower standards than you do and think many women are "beautiful" enough. But it IS a real compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:38 AM
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A lot of sexually unsuccessful men would just ruin a relationship if they got one. Intentionally or unintentionally because they’re often the same as the attractive men they decry. They just have less opportunity to act on it. They can't be the same because at the very least their reasons for being bitter would be different. Incels are bitter because they are they can't get women. Attractive men, if they are bitter, are bitter about something else (or for no reason at all). As for your friend - …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:22 AM
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Where did I say it was selfish to take care of you body? Some care is not only unselfish - it's the minimum for self-respect. I'm referring to the requirements to be among the "best" men in a large online catalog of men. You can bet they spend a large % of their week improving and maintaining themselves. And they come first - always (nobody is going to miss "leg day" because Tinder girl #8 wants a reply back). But understand that being "selfish" is not all bad. You have to be selfish to be the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:09 AM
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Average men who rarely get dates might say bitter things anonymously online. But the idea that if they ever DID get a date they would then treat them like disposable trash - is far fetched. They would get over their bitterness real quick. Because a person who never had a car is not going to disregard a Toyota Corolla. It makes no rational sense. The person who has constant options to have Bentleys, Ferraris, Porsches, etc. will though. What MIGHT happen though is someone might slowly start takin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:52 AM
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If you look at what OP says objectively, most of those things are just signs that they think they are better than her/ she's not worth their time. It's a sign she is picking the best men possible who are then out of her league. This is like me going to JP Morgan Chase Private Bank (for high net worth multi-millionaires) and speaking to a representative there. They are just not that interested in my business vs. the retail Chase bank down the street. They will give me free pens (in her case, sex)…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:41 AM
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In the case of OP, the "poor behavior" is more like signs of them thinking they're better than her/she's not worth that much to them. So it is definitely related to her picking out the best men possible who then don't view her as the main prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:34 AM
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Y'all want a guy who is aggressive to those who wrong you but (paradoxically always) gentle to you, who takes charge among other men but (paradoxically always) listens to your opinion, who is selfish in taking utmost care of his body and appearance but (paradoxically always) selfless towards you, who is wanted by many women better than you but (paradoxically always) gives you full attention. You want a paradox. It's impossible. You select the best men possible (who are objectively better than yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:31 AM
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That's literally what the inceldom/blackpill is = JBW (just be white) + looks theory, coupled with a dose of revenge ("having all the incels in my major envy me") and a desire to control others ("have power over everyone"). Just calling it like it is. OP is probably not an evil person just like most incels are probably not evil people. But the thought processes are exactly the same. And in both cases it is pathetic and/or annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:48 PM
-1

Good for your male family members? You sound really annoying with your incestuous bragging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:41 PM
1

10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:42 PM
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Title question: Yes. But what many women don't understand is that most men are shallow about female strangers - not about those they love. Ergo, if you are hot and marry a man in your youth and become significantly fatter/older many years later - it usually isn't a problem. We've heard of "trading her in for a younger model" - but that's the exception rather than the rule. Men, arguably, get more attached to women than vice versa over the years. And women initiate the vast majority of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:36 PM
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Just go to the incel forums. All they talk about is how they wish they were handsome and white so people would love/respect them. You'd fit right in. Like you, they also want to "have power over everyone" and cry and moan about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:05 PM
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I know. But male pattern baldness is from testosterone which I assume you will need if you want to be "handsome". The lack of a penis is just a limitation of technology (and likely will be for a very long time). And height growth is impossible after epiphyseal closure. These are all independent of being handsome. I am not trans or anything but am a 6ft woman. Then in a random group of 1,000 women, you would be among the 2-5 tallest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:53 PM
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6 ft women are exceptionally rare. Most women are quite short compared to men. And then there's male pattern baldness. And the lack of a penis. I think it's fine, but OP's (and other's) idea that turning into a trans man will make you "Mr. Big Shot" is delusional. Most men live quiet lonely lives - which most women never see. And trans men will be even worse off than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:48 PM
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Avg. guy? Eternity. Approaches (almost) never happen. And IOIs are only given to very handsome men. YOU have to approach w/o an IOI, and you have to be O.K. with being called a creep sometimes, a few derisive smirks, and even an "ewwww" someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:15 PM
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If you don't like struggling in the gym you won't like maintaining handsomeness as a man (and it will decrease or go away relatively quickly - you need low body % to keep a handsome face). And though men's "expiration date" is longer, they also have to bring other things to the table - A handsome 35 year old who works at [insert retail store] will do terrible up-against all the rich decent-looking men competing. Lastly, if you were transformed into a man, you'd be a handsome shorter man - which …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:57 PM
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If everyone deserves to have sex - why not have government-funded prostitution services - just like the government-funded abortion services you want? But this is actually all besides the point because nobody is restricting your right to have sex. You just have to deal with slightly higher pregnancy risk (given current excellent contraception). It seems like when sex is ever so slightly inconvenienced for women - it's the end of the world. But to men it's "you're not entitled to sex" and "there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:15 AM
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You still control it - by limiting and taking precautions with sex. But if you're saying sex is so important that "everyone deserves a life where they can have sex without repercussions" than is "everyone" only women or does it include men? Because anti-redpill/anti-blackpill rhetoric has long been based on "you're not entitled to sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:35 PM
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lol just any random guy has that control over you? Come on - you have take a teeny tiny bit of accountability at least some of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:36 PM

That's bullshit. Standards are already maxxed out. The average girl is scrolling through thousands of guys fitting specific parameters of age, race, body type, height, education within a 100 mi. radius. You can't increase them more because they are already "overreaching". Most girls can't get a guy who is both hot AND rich, even for just casual sex. There are just too few of them around to bother wasting even a minute on any girl less than 8/10 (assuming they're even single to begin with - which…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:31 PM
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From the picture, I'd say 36%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:43 PM
1

It's great in medicine. I'm just a medical student but on rotations some patients have assumed I'm in charge over an actual female physician.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:42 AM
1

Sounds great. Curious to know what is your definition of feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:33 AM
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There are legitimately creepy things. But for every stalking or aggression that is legitimately creepy, there is a 100 things falsely labelled creepy. So if you are labelled "creepy" it doesn't necessarily mean you did anything wrong. Just means she didn't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:32 AM
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