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Be wary of attributing changes you see on line to actual changes. You algorithm knows you’re more interested in that type of content with those kinds of conversations and is feeding it to you to keep you engaged and it’s obviously working.
/r/seduction23/06/26 12:54 AM
2

Average looking women do not get hit on more often on a day to day basis, not even close to
/r/seduction17/06/26 01:01 AM
3

Sweat… this feels more like a doctor question than a seduction subreddit on tho
/r/seduction12/06/26 06:01 AM
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If you get really fucking rich of course you can, if you struggle to make any friends at all, it’s probably impossible… it’s a big spectrum of potential for us to speculate on.
/r/seduction29/05/26 10:36 PM
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The church would want you to think that… easier to grift off you.
/r/seduction14/05/26 04:45 PM
3

Getting numbers isnt that hard but if your interaction wasn’t fun or seductive, it’s unlikely to go anywhere. Goal should be a fun and flirty conversation that builds some tension and see if there’s a vibe. Those numbers and easy and actually lead somewhere.
/r/seduction10/05/26 05:44 AM
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The “This is too much” is her signaling she’s feeling too pressured/rushed past what she’s comfortable with, not that she is too pleasured.
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:09 PM
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Have you read Models?
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:02 AM
1

But they don’t want to hang out because you haven’t seduced them. Momentum may also be falling off if you’re texting too friendly and not bantering and not getting to the date ask soon enough, hard to say though.
/r/seduction26/04/26 07:03 PM
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No, or everyone would be doing it all the time. There would be no self help books, no dating coaches, no rizz influencers or pick up artist videos. The same way it’s easy for a rich person to get rich, they have the baseline wealth to not take as much of a risk, the understanding from watching their parents and people they associate with make more and the image and confidence to back it up someone who is good looking with a charismatic upbringing and enjoys the process and has confidence at it b…
/r/seduction25/04/26 05:19 PM
4

Glad you’re certain you don’t love someone you just met, that would be highly concerning and I’d recommend a therapist to help you navigate this kind of stuff if you even have to ask. I’m not saying that as a burn or anything, therapy is dope and really really helped give me perspective on dating/relationships. It sounds like you need that perspective too.
/r/seduction14/04/26 06:28 PM
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You’re the one creating ideals about what number of previous mates a mammal should have… aren’t you a pot calling the kettle black?
/r/seduction03/03/26 06:24 PM
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You’re allowed to ask questions, just do t only ask questions. If you’ve ever been to one, 1 question isn’t an interview. And when you get an answer, follow it up with an observation, joke, how you relate etc to break up the questions.
/r/seduction02/02/26 05:58 PM
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I’ve used a similar one as the book except instead of pretending like I’ve read it I said “I keep seeing that book everywhere, am I missing out?” People reading in public probably want to talk about what they’re reading in public and if they don’t it will be obvious.
/r/seduction19/10/25 06:32 AM
2

If you can’t talk to women you’re not trying to fuck then sure but wing women > wing men imo and have done way more in my experience
/r/seduction22/07/25 05:30 AM
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You’re at a dog park and there’s 4 dogs there, a Pitt bull that aggressively barks at you and intimidates you, a chihuahua that’s a small little guy with a lot of bark but probably no real bite, a Shepard that barks twice but mostly eyes you down knowing it can take you and a golden retriever comes up to you full of joy, ready to be friendly, confident that you’re ok so no need to bark or bite or investigate, etc… those are the 4 types of dogs I hear people compare themselves to off the top of m…
/r/seduction30/06/25 01:30 PM
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Ok rad, just making sure. I would not try to rush it to make out as quick as possible, that’s probably going to end up back firing. Be confident, flirty, banter, compliment and communicate about emotions while building physical touch like the 1000 other post on this forum say to do and if you’re compatible, you’ll get there.
/r/seduction26/06/25 06:33 PM
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How often are you calling someone who then has her boyfriend pick up to tell you to stop calling? That really sticks out to me, like 3 calls is too many in the talking stages without a reply, honestly 1 call and then a text or a double text about plans and then just walk away, they’re not interested, taken, or ghosting. Also in my experience ghosting was pretty damn rare but I’m a bit of a golden retriever so I don’t think women worry about having an open conversation about not seeing me again, …
/r/seduction26/06/25 06:31 PM
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Questions and conversations about how they feel about something are more engaging for women so you have to learn to communicate with them they way they want to communicate. They don’t care what breed of dog you saw and what they’re bred to do nearly as much as how seeing that dog made you feel like a kid again playing in the back yard with your own dog who sadly passed away a few years ago but you still think about them every time you see a Shepard breed… You also have to have confidence when yo…
/r/seduction26/06/25 06:24 PM
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And you’ve met her in real life right? To confirm it’s her? Or are you in her verified insta DMs?
/r/seduction26/06/25 09:22 AM
1

Mayo? As a white guy, that’s sounds like some white ass guacamole lol
/r/seduction26/06/25 09:21 AM
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Those just sound like decent people… or are cheaters your type? I’m lost
/r/seduction26/06/25 07:07 AM
1

High quality, if you can spend thousands on tattoos and cocaine you can spend it on them
/r/seduction25/06/25 08:42 PM
2

Organically is fine, but I strongly do not get the impression that OP isn’t running game/cold approaches there. They’re thinking about switching gyms over it.
/r/seduction25/06/25 06:24 PM
17

It’s probably the people hitting on them at the gym causing them to leave… go to a bar ffs
/r/seduction24/06/25 10:34 PM
1

I find that the more information I have and the more I do something, the more I get comfortable with it. Start with zero risk interactions like chatting to every barista or sales associate, not in a sexual romantic way, just in a practicing socializing way. The more you get used to that the easier it gets to go further. Set little goals and stick to them even if it’s uncomfortable.
/r/seduction21/06/25 08:21 PM
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Search this sub and read it, that’s like all it talks about. Filter by top posts of all time… then read Models by Mark Manson. Then go practice, it’s not that hard, they’re just people too.
/r/seduction21/06/25 04:05 PM
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It was a joke I heard on T-Pains Instagram but it lives rent free and pops up anytime someone mentions snickers
/r/seduction06/06/25 05:18 PM
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Yeah I wouldn’t just immediately ask “what’s your love language”… “oh physical touch, can I hold your hand?” That’s so unsmooth and clunky. I was more saying if you’re the type of guy that wants to ask/get consent, it’s better to tell them what you want to do then ask if you can do it because telling them gives them an opportunity to agree or not without sounding unconfident/uncertain.
/r/seduction05/06/25 07:55 PM
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Well I would always hug at the start of a date, guide with a hand on their back if natural, hand on arm, my comment was less about initial touch and more about bigger escalations of touch from friendly to sexual. Talking about where they like to be touched also builds some sexual tension which is important and can be built upon. I’ve actually had a bunch of women comment on how they appreciated the confident yet consenting ask/tell, so I’d recommend it personally but if you’re less concerned abo…
/r/seduction05/06/25 07:52 PM
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No, this worked several times and I dated a few of them… not sure why you don’t think it would work, maybe I’ve got better execution than you
/r/seduction05/06/25 06:32 PM
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A good way to gauge this is talk about love languages and if they like physical touch, ask them a few of their favorite ways to express that and if they say “ hold hands” or “play with hair” then you can say “I’d like to _____(whatever they said)” like “I’d like to hold your hand” it’s more confident to say what you want to do rather than ask to do the thing but also allows them to say if they’re not comfortable yet. It’s the same for a kiss, “I’d really like to kiss you” is way better than “can…
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:21 PM
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I assume you’re eating that snickers upside down because you like the way the chocolate veins feel on your tongue
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:15 PM
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Wait it’s like a CS only school? Well that does complicate things bc universities are like the best place to meet women and it gets a lot harder post graduation. The book doesn’t have a plot per se, but it’s subtitle is “attract women through honesty” and it is very much a counter to the pick up artist type books/yt videos, I’m not gunna shove it down your throat but based on your last few sentences, it’s pretty clear you’d benefit from it. Asking questions and looking into her eyes is below bar…
/r/seduction29/05/25 05:37 PM
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You’re in university so classes are a perfect place, cold approaches on campus, especially if they look a bit nerdy like yourself, and apps, but as for the friendly part, I don’t think it was lifestyle that made them feel that way, it was probably the dynamic on the date. Dates shouldn’t feel friendly, they should feel romantic, seductive, etc I’d highly recommend reading Models by Mark Manson, you can find it’s recommended on this subreddit hundreds of times by hundreds of different people bc i…
/r/seduction29/05/25 04:30 PM
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Meh, it’s probably not the line
/r/seduction23/05/25 07:11 AM
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But it usually doesn’t work out and ends very toxic, so while it “works”, it’s not easily maintained. Much better to have the traits without the negative attitude.
/r/seduction24/02/25 03:38 PM
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That’s really not what RNG means still, those are biases which means it’s not random in nature. Really just the wrong term is my point. I’d say there’s a ton of variables that work for and against you and the biggest indicator of more sucess is more attempts = more opportunities = more successes.
/r/seduction16/06/24 09:30 PM
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And if there is bias(and there totally is), like being more interesting, then it’s not a random number generator by definition.
/r/seduction16/06/24 08:45 PM
5

Can you practice having conversations with starangers where you pause for a bit before replying, like checking out at a grocery store, if you can get used to doing it with people you’re not interested in it gets easier to do under pressure
/r/seduction06/06/24 06:28 AM
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Have you read Models by Mark Manson? It’s often recommended here and has a really good part on how you won’t be the right fit for everyone and how it’s better to be polarizing and not chosen by someone who doesn’t think you’re perfect for them. I am not putting it as well as he does but highly recommend that book, 120ish pages, $12, pretty minor investment for what I gained from it.
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:09 AM
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Bullshit. Plenty of guys punch above their weight, especially ones with money but also confident dudes. I’ve done it plenty. I’m maybe a 6, I’ve hooked up with 8/9s, and have seen hundreds of couples where the girl is hotter. You can have confidence(sounds like you’re lacking that), humor, personality, money, a big dong… I honestly don’t know how you can think this. Just look at Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson. She’s a billionaire that’s a 9/10(or whatever its subjective but way higher than Pet…
/r/seduction31/05/24 06:43 PM
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Yes. I have eyes. Thats subjective but the were not average or hot… you’re looking for excuses rather that trying to wrap your head around personality and confidence being the best way to potentially be with someone better looking than you.
/r/seduction31/05/24 04:58 PM
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I’ve seen some ugly dudes shoot their shot because they felt they were the shit and get cute girls, you don’t feel like your worth it, so you’re not confident, so you’re not succeeding…
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:00 AM
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Until she doesn’t… seriously don’t count your chickens til they hats and put her on a pedestal. There’s still time to fuck this up by acting in the wrong way.
/r/seduction30/05/24 02:41 AM
2

Maybe you sound really serious, I mean the way you wrote this is very straight forward and matter of fact, which is fine for a post on reddit but maybe you’d be doing better if you were a bit less serious? Without seeing you message logs we can’t really know.
/r/seduction28/05/24 06:29 PM
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You’ll definitely have to own them, I don’t think I qualify entirely with you but I like Bonsai, kendama, gta RP, aquariums, kendama etc, weird ass hobbies but I own that shit and don’t really give a fuck if someone doesn’t think their cool, that attitude can make it so it doesn’t matter what you’re into(within reason). As for connections, therapy helps a ton with interpersonal relationships. Get a good psychologist who specializes in whatever you’ve got going on.
/r/seduction24/05/24 11:29 PM
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Sure it does, being a foreigner can get you a big boost and I statistically can flip a coin heads 5 times in a row in less than a day, I can’t 10000 in a row in this lifetime.
/r/seduction24/05/24 07:18 PM
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I wouldn’t start with exclusivity when you’re getting no indication he wants that. Going on infrequent dates doesn’t suggest a desire for it. What I would do is see what he’s looking for and go from there.
/r/seduction24/05/24 04:48 PM
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Or you had rich parents… I think there’s better investments to improving your odds, if you want girls into status and money, that’s all they’ll want from you, just make sure that’s what you want. But hey, it might work but I’ve done fine in a Subaru(it fits my 9’4 surfboards inside nicely)
/r/seduction23/05/24 05:43 AM
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I’ve had a wetsuit on in plenty of interactions, they can definitely discover it before you’re in bed, my point was only that it’s not zero. It’s low as fuck, but never zero.
/r/seduction20/05/24 09:03 PM
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“average LOOKING guy”, OP is not asking about average status, infact he is talking about someone who is above average in many things, just average looks and so I answered accordingly. And average every single aspect guy has no shot with a high status woman but that’s an answer to a totally different question I haven’t replied to.
/r/seduction20/05/24 09:01 PM
1

An ugly person with a big dick is still ugly… I don’t think it counts towards looks despite it being a physical aspect
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:03 PM
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Nah it’s higher than zero, just gotta be rich, famous, hilarious, well endowed etc. it’s probably lower than .1%, but it can’t be zero bc there are thousands of examples that beg to differ.
/r/seduction20/05/24 06:58 PM
0

You can do both, I mean when I was single sometimes I’d want to doom scroll and others I’d want to be social
/r/seduction18/05/24 08:37 AM
2

Not doubting you but like why? How’s snap more convenient than iMessage?
/r/seduction15/05/24 07:09 AM
3

Idk maybe I’m old but snap existed and so did facebook but the numbers generally did better.
/r/seduction15/05/24 06:24 AM
5

Get a number next time if ya can
/r/seduction15/05/24 05:57 AM
7

Seems like interest, flirt around and find out
/r/seduction12/05/24 07:11 AM
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I was gunna chime in with something like that last line, I had a coworker who also was a model, looked like a hot Jesus and got never ending attention… but he also questioned all of his relationships because he knew chicks would fake being compatible just to be with him. There’s a movie called elegy where they talk about “the curse of the beautiful woman”, she can never truly be seen for who she is because her beauty distorts everyone’s view and there’s obviously a male flip side to that.
/r/seduction08/05/24 03:46 PM
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They’re not mind games, they’re protecting themselves from people who are potentially only interested in their looks, which will fade. Women like a connection more than a visual so while you can stare at tits and get turned on, they’re gunna need much more of a scenario to get interested. Try doing what you’re doing to a guy and see if it works. “Nice shoes bro, wanna hang out this weekend?” Like no fucking shot is that going over better.
/r/seduction07/05/24 02:50 PM
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Idk my sus radar is going off and I have a strong feeling this may be a scammer. Like have you ever met this person? Talked on the phone? Whatever you do don’t pay for anything through them in advance. A “can you send me money for ___” woould confirm it so look out for anything like that.
/r/seduction04/05/24 07:58 PM
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No, I’m telling you I don’t. If I bring up sex and they say they’re not ready/time of the month/whatever, this may surprise you but that’s not beating around the bush that’s respecting another persons wishes… I mean yeah you don’t get it, you don’t get waiting for someone to be comfortable. It’s either immediate or they’re gone. Also you keep thinking a lot about how good I am at kissing… I’ve had 4 chicks say I’m the best kisser they’ve kissed, I’m very secure with it and if you think it’s some…
/r/seduction03/05/24 10:58 PM
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Who beats around the bush here? I’ve had sex on plenty of first or second dates and also after 5th or 6th but we had still kissed on the first or second. I just don’t think I’m entitled to sex because I’ve gone on a second date with someone, that’s too fast for a lot of stable people. But like you are thirsty, it’s sex on the second date or it’s over, not being able to wait to get a drink is quite literally what the word thirst describes. I mean you can’t wait a third or fourth date to have sex …
/r/seduction03/05/24 09:15 PM
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Damn I just got the ick from that first paragraph, that’s a wild thing to type out and then hit reply on man. That’s a very entitled way to look at it, I really really just can’t relate. I make my intentions known but I’m not so thirsty I can’t wait a few days for a drink. Every interaction that ends up being warm or hot goes from neutral(before an interaction starts) through luke warm, and into hot if it goes in that direction. Sometimes the luke warm middle stage is a date or two longer, espec…
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:43 PM
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Ai t i to you like that yet. Fixed that, she’s not comfortable yet, but that doesn’t mean she won’t ever be. I think your view of women want to have sex immediately or they don’t is wrong because I’ve had plenty of experience that says otherwise. It may sound crazy but I’ve had sex with multiple women I’d been on more than a second date with before we did it because I didn’t just throw my hands in the air and say “welp it’s been 2 dates, she’s not into me, even though she’s still interested and …
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:19 PM
0

That’s equally as weird to me, what’s the reasoning?
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:01 PM
1

How could you even know that?
/r/seduction03/05/24 08:00 PM
1

Yeah I think OP may be showing how he really feels or that he feels weird about it and the shit test is doing its job. Thats kinda the best way to always answer a lot of shit tests, joke and tease and then answer.
/r/seduction01/05/24 05:15 PM
2

Don’t try to text about it period. Texts cannot possibly capture what you’re trying to communicate. Ask him to hang out this week/end and talk then.
/r/seduction30/04/24 09:27 PM
1

Just read it. There’s a reason it’s the most often recommended book on this subreddit. $12ish and 100 something pages. No need for alternatives unless you’re looking for additional readings
/r/seduction29/04/24 11:10 PM
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Nah doesn’t sound like it, sounds like this goes deeper and they’ll probably revert to this negative behavior… I’m good.
/r/seduction29/04/24 07:07 PM
1

Oh I’d almost think she was wanting you to be more dominant… I’d think a dominant woman would grab you or idk but I am attracted to and mainly attract subs so my experience with dominant women is pretty low.
/r/seduction29/04/24 07:16 AM
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Nah, you need to be that good wingman. Try reading the posts on this subreddit for how to do it rather than having people answer your post because a lot of what you need is already here. And read Models by Mark Manson. And getting rejected once? How likely is it the first person you talk to is going to be super interested in you? Like statistically speaking, super super unlikely, and that rejection was her saying the dice roll came up bad, but you’re not nervous about rolling a die again, so why…
/r/seduction27/04/24 01:55 PM
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You’re screwed, if you do creepy shit or have a record. If you’re a lovely guy, you’re not getting brought up on there.
/r/seduction24/04/24 05:54 PM
1

No not seduction, I meant join (Insert your interest here) Club. For example I’m in a Surf club, Bonsai club, and Pool(billiards) club, and have been in various others, these likely will not work for you so I said “a club”. These clubs would help you with socializing with less pressure the way hitting on chicks that just want citizenship/a free meal/to maybe rob you will be low pressure to perform well. The more social interactions you have, the better you are at social interactions and you may …
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:49 PM
1

If they’ll go for you no matter how bad it is, what are you learning? What mistakes are you seeing and going “oh I wasn’t this so she wasn’t interested” nah if anything day game will teach you the most, accepting rejection, building rapport, making the ask, etc. I will say it will probably help if you struggle with fears related to socializing, cuz they’ll be eager to, but it kinda ends there and if you want to get better at that just join a club and practice making friends in that club and save…
/r/seduction22/04/24 06:02 PM
6

Are you guys dating?
/r/seduction22/04/24 05:03 PM
2

If you don’t put it into practice it can’t, models certainly helped me a ton
/r/seduction18/04/24 03:58 AM
4

Idk if Atlas Shrugged would help me more than Models… I mean I know that it didn’t.
/r/seduction18/04/24 03:58 AM
77

You’re right, but not in the way you think you’re right.
/r/seduction17/04/24 10:32 PM
5

You should tell her that, that way she can get the ick and move on
/r/seduction17/04/24 06:26 PM
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You’re on a date, they’ve agreed to the date where the intention is romantic and physical intimacy at some point. You can safely hug someone at the beginning and now you’ve broken the touch barrier and your worries can be over about this mythical barrier. A few other good ways to break it are commenting on the texture of something if it’s an interesting one and saying “Can I feel it” now you’ve got consent to touch again. You can also ask their love languages, and unless they say they hate physi…
/r/seduction14/04/24 03:47 PM
1

The girl I’d been hooking up with says that all the time when she leaves it’s just a way of saying “later”… but leaving a flirty seductive exchange your goodbye should be flirty and if that’s the response or anything less than flirty, she’s not super into it regardless the pleasantry she exchanges
/r/seduction11/04/24 03:16 PM
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They’re not sending you a cute photo to be told how much you like their brain/personality… but you went with a boring “wow” and an over the top reel and maybe that was the issues, maybe we thought the reel was weird or the wow wasn’t enough, maybe he exes reaction was better and she still wants to change him, we will never know.
/r/seduction06/04/24 05:07 PM
3

That you know of, see you’re confusing a belief with the truth. A belief is something you think but truth is something that you think and it corresponds to reality. You have no idea if someone cheated on you maybe it was just a meaningless kiss at a club or flirting with a coworker(emotional cheating) but the point is you don’t know the entirety of reality and thinking you do is delusional
/r/seduction04/04/24 04:56 PM
3

“According to the most recent data from Statistics Canada, in 2021, 35.1 per cent of Canadian young adults under the age of 34 lived with at least one of their parents. The agency found the percentage of adult kids living with their parents jumped by about five percentage points across the country from 2001 to 2021” But to answer your question, try to plan the escalation closer to their place and hope/angle for the invite over. Watching a movie, “cuddling weather”, etc all have the implication o…
/r/seduction31/03/24 03:17 PM
2

And read Models by Mark Manson for all future interactions with women you fancy.
/r/seduction31/03/24 02:00 AM
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Start by using the search function and reading the hundreds of posts on this subreddit about escalating
/r/seduction30/03/24 10:43 PM
3

I’m half of one and half of the other, this is ridiculous oversimplification, I’d argue there are thousands to millions of types of men.
/r/seduction13/03/24 07:24 AM
20

The ones that do aren’t the ones you want, ask me how I know. I’m so glad young me learned this.
/r/seduction12/03/24 06:15 PM
1

You’ve been on two dates, you haven’t accumulated nearly enough information to even come close to know if she’s wifey material or not so get that idea far out of your head and hopefully it helps. She’s just a person who is going on dates with you and probably wants to kiss you just as bad. Escalate physically, which has tons of guides here, and then if it’s clear as day go for the kiss or if you’re wondering and want consent, tell here “I really want to kiss you” and she will very likely agree i…
/r/seduction11/03/24 08:29 PM
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Yeah this sounds like it can get women, but not the ones you want to ultimately get. It feels too games playing and I prefer to say how I feel and to tel people directly what I want. Maybe this works for OP but I don’t want to find someone who is distant, needs to figure me out, doesn’t want to hear about a potential future etc. this sounds like the code for attracting women with an avoidant attachment style.
/r/seduction01/03/24 11:08 PM
2

Could’ve been polite too, women have no idea how men will react to being shutdown
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:01 AM
5

I’d assume the relationship is a bigger factor and that’s your ego taking some hits. And yeah it’s kinda gross that people do this, especially offering the insta knowing full well you’re not trying to be friends. Those are not the type of people you wanna date or get involved with or get caught by their crazy boyfriend and beat up or shot over.
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:19 AM
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They were in a relationship but wanted attention, the got attention, they were done with you. Wanting to hook up and wanting attention will look the same but the end result will be different. I think how good you look matters but it’s not enough to get everyone to cheat and also that’s super against the bro code and you’ll probably get some karma for this but that’s a different conversation. Maybe just go after single girls who are interested in you as there seem to be plenty.
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:11 AM
1

Check out my room is a bit boring, bring up a thing, invite to do/see said thing. I’ve got plants, records, can make a few interesting cocktails, have an aquarium… just something that if she’s interested in it it’s an easy “come see that thing you were interested in”, she’s not dumb(hopefully) and knows what you’re sort of doing but it gives her some plausible deniability and reduces some awkwardness in why she is there. Heck I’ve even used “I did laundry and still need to make my bed, could you…
/r/seduction26/02/24 08:52 PM
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While this pullback does work sometimes when it comes to gaining the interest of a person, in my experience and what most psychologists would probably say is that if someone is attracted to you based on your lack of interest, withholding communication or mistreatment of them, they probably have some deeper things going on that with make them more difficult to date. They’re probably also more likely to play games in the future. So it can work but you’re going to get someone that responds positive…
/r/seduction16/02/24 05:28 PM
1

Can’t lose something that was never yours Make moves or at least get a contact before you ever leave.
/r/seduction14/02/24 07:05 AM
21

Hey, I don’t think I’ve met you yet. I’m responsibleboy999, what’s your name?
/r/seduction31/01/24 07:16 AM
2

Personally while I like low commitment dates like a cafe, I don’t find I convert very well early in the morning so I try to keep it to late afternoon or night stuff but that’s just me
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:09 AM
1

I assume she doesn’t drink caffeine at night and so coffee didn’t work and she offered something else. Have somewhere to go after planned like a nearby bar “you’ve heard make a really good _” or has __ that way it’s not just fro yo and now what?
/r/seduction28/01/24 01:25 AM
5

I do not neg in the way you’re describing and do fine. You realize the girls you’re attracting through negative behaviors have a problem and that’s that they’re attracted to negative behaviors, I don’t want that kind of woman.
/r/seduction03/10/23 05:10 PM
3

Ah it sounded like you were including this sub in the “pick up artist sub culture” because I’d consider this sub a part of that and while much of it is how well you bullshit and manipulate, other ones like Mark Manson or Marni give pretty much the opposite advice
/r/seduction02/09/23 02:52 PM
6

Wait how is the advice you normally see “go talk to women confidently, hit the gym, dress better, have a career you’re passionate about and can afford to do things etc” lying and pretending? I definitely see that here but the most upvoted comments usually are not “lie and pretend your way to as many chicks beds as you can”
/r/seduction01/09/23 04:43 PM
3

Talk to everyone that seems receptive to it, give random strangers a good compliment, it’ll translate well to the dating scene as it’s no different there in the scheme of things
/r/seduction25/04/23 05:10 AM
1

I’ll breakdown for you what happened an hour ago. I went surfing this morning in California, made a joke to a girl standing in the shallow water about her being braver than me for wearing a wetsuit. She laughed. Got a few waves and would look back at her after a good one and wave or smile. So a bit of interaction and then pulling away so push pull but not like intentionally I just wanted to surf before the tide killed it. Got my last wave and rode in to her. Said she seemed like a spring breaker…
/r/seduction01/04/23 08:00 PM
4

Please give Models by Mark Manson a read. You’re right, funny doesn’t equal sex. Funny equals interest and comfort and fun and relaxing, those allow more physical, sexual and non-verbal escalations which build sexual tension. The humor is a catalyst but not the actual chemical reaction.
/r/seduction01/04/23 12:28 AM
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Please give Models by Mark Manson a read. You’re right, funny doesn’t equal sex. Funny equals interest and comfort and fun and relaxing, those allow more physical, sexual and non verbal escalations which build sexual tension. The humor is a catalyst but not the actual chemical reaction.
/r/seduction01/04/23 12:28 AM
5

Surfing, but also I’m good at surfing and a lot of random people approach me in the water because of that. I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone as a strategy that doesn’t already surf really well and now this feels like a humble brag, but it answered your unusual places part perfectly.
/r/seduction01/04/23 12:13 AM
2

Online dating is an avenue of dating but you’ll have far better luck in person. Get some hobbies, work on yourself, be proud of who you’ve become and the rest will fall into place.
/r/seduction29/10/22 06:47 AM
3

Practice talking to anyone, if you can talk to anyone well you can talk to girls well…
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:15 AM
5

Yeah this exactly, if she’s already on a date with you she is at least warm to the idea and she in all likely hood won’t freak out if you slowly escalate touching and back off if she pulls away until she is more comfortable.
/r/seduction27/10/22 06:27 AM
4

Eh not every chick checks every day, I’ve shot my shot this way a few times in the past and it’s worked more than half the times… I assume my insta paints a better picture than my bumble anyways.
/r/seduction27/10/22 06:09 AM
3

Go to Manila, Philippines… try to keep up. /s
/r/seduction27/10/22 03:53 AM
4

Have you done profile reviews on the apps respective subreddits?
/r/seduction25/10/22 06:36 AM
2

That one found a 4% difference, which is ~20% more likely to cheat and wasn’t married couples… but fine it wasn’t way higher, just 20% more likely my bad
/r/seduction25/10/22 01:30 AM
1

I mean sounds like an addiction by this comment, if you’re not hurting anyone I’d would’ve said nbd but it sounds like you’re playing peoples hearts like their feelings are toys and chasing dopamine releases through ejaculation and have hyper fixated on this. A real addiction and being a dickhead aren’t mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction25/10/22 12:59 AM
4

Where did you get that statistic? I’ve seen that men are somewhat to almost twice as likely to cheat from several sources, but obviously these are self reported and the “no’s” can’t really be verified.
/r/seduction25/10/22 12:48 AM
7

You could just say people since husbands do it too at far higher incidences
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:50 PM
1

Learn how to flirt. You can but you’ll be less likely to be successful, sure it may work eventually but slow your roll there cowboy, better to escalate than go straight into sex jokes with a woman you have zero rapport with.
/r/seduction20/10/22 05:09 AM
5

If she’s posting it as a thirst trap, you’re quite literally falling into the trap. I don’t “react” to those or dm, unless it’s worth it. Give her too much attention and she will certainly pick up on your neediness or get all she wants from you, validation.
/r/seduction03/10/22 07:46 PM
12

I’d probably forget what they said
/r/seduction01/10/22 06:24 PM
10

No, it’s less pressure and teaches the same kind of social skills and conversation threading… something your response makes me think you could use help with too.
/r/seduction27/09/22 02:25 AM
5

Selling weed is hardly a drug dealer in California as far as status goes.
/r/seduction26/09/22 10:41 PM
8

Signing up for their premium course on YouTube
/r/seduction23/09/22 08:07 PM
1

Favorite memory or things questions, how did that make you feel when it’s a positive thing, banter that plays with their emotions like push pull kinda stuff or false disqualification, just literally start thinking more in terms of the emotion surrounding what you’re talking about and it will be much easier to get there with women.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:09 PM
10

There a hockey expression I hear that’s a 4 on the road is an 8 at home and I think the same holds true for Online dating(mostly)
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:16 PM
2

I matched with a chick on bumble 2 weeks ago, she had her insta on there but never messaged, so I slid into the dms and in 10 days and 20ish messages I’ve asked her out… why wait months? If she says maybe or let you know say, ok we’ll best of luck out there and on to the next.
/r/seduction18/09/22 06:53 AM
5

Talk to everyone semi interesting, dudes too, who knows his gf and her single friend may show up etc. if you look social your approach will be socially valudated
/r/seduction17/09/22 11:16 PM
2

I mean that was 16 years ago that I was that 16 year old kid who didn’t get it at all. I do fine now.
/r/seduction15/09/22 11:37 PM
1

Maybe she didn’t find it funny or she never had that interest to begin with, you can convert a neutral to an interested sometimes and an interested more often, but very rarely and uninterested.
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:54 PM
1

So does it only work if you have met in real life or does it work 20% if you haven’t, can’t be both… and I’ve gotten multiple dates of women I dm’d on insta, but most of them followed me first I assume from my surf content so that’s a bit different, only gone out with one I followed first.
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:52 PM
3

What was your message and what was the story you responded to? Viewing stories isn’t game, that’s viewing stories.
/r/seduction15/09/22 04:12 PM
12

Or overthink it to oblivion and wonder if she’s into you when she’s at your house in your bed wondering if she’s actually into you, or is that just how daft I was in High School?
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:18 PM
1

A “good attitude” in parenthesis isn’t a good attitude, it’s just calling it that, and an actual good attitude wouldn’t have quotes. I looked at you comments and the attitude was very likely not as myriad or good as you think it was or you would’ve had better results.
/r/seduction15/09/22 03:07 AM
1

She doesn’t think you’re gross or want you to leave yet… but it’s no indication of interest as friends let friends try drinks too.
/r/seduction14/09/22 03:22 AM
3

I agree and understand the first half, but if I bring up a problem to someone I am hoping for a potential solution from them that I may have overlooked.
/r/seduction08/09/22 03:22 AM
2

Uh, mars is an alien world too
/r/seduction08/09/22 03:21 AM
1

If he can make her feel more emotions, has a rocking body and flirts the way that makes her feel butterflies, what does she need a job for and if he makes her feel that way he can make another just as easily so she can’t wait as long… do you want to sleep with a woman more because she has a job or because she’s hot…
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:19 AM
11

Checking her out could be the compliment, or she had hair in her eye and it tickled her, approach is the only way to confirm.
/r/seduction03/09/22 08:05 PM
1

Yeah do a 5 person a day along side this or one girl after 5 people that way you’re socially warmed up OP.
/r/seduction02/09/22 05:33 PM
1

A lot of women have had bad experiences with men addicted to games and ignoring them for long hours while they play with the squad… I’ve dated a few chicks who liked video games and had hobbies that paired well with gaming but I’ve also had some that didn’t and it caused strain on the relationship. But I didn’t just play video games, I surf, fish, go out dancing, hike, golf, shoot photos, garden, and a whole bunch more so there are more experiences which to grow the attraction than sitting there…
/r/seduction02/09/22 05:19 PM
1

When you get her number she still has the app and the same amount of guys on it. She’s also aware that guys try to get her off it, that can display neediness. She might have had a bad experience giving a match her number and gets the ick when you ask. So no I do not ask, only way I’m getting her truly off the app is wowing her in person to where she doesn’t want to open it again. And yeah you really shouldn’t have a flimsy plan. Or ask to hang out, unless she’s sent very casual and hook up vibes…
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:09 PM
2

No, I always ask for the date. She will then give the number either before or if the date goes well. I don’t need it, I can message her on the app. Last time I asked, we had talked about both liking Birria Tacos after some flirty back and forth about drinks and watching scary shows and scared cuddling… I said “before this turns into a pen pal, want to grab some birria tacos with me, I’m free Wednesday or Friday” and she responded “I’d love that but I’m going out of town for a week, so after that…
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:51 AM
2

Unless you’ve run out, I’d say narrow it. I’m pretty selective on my swipes so the algorithm doesn’t fuck me. Idk I more swipe on their vibe, like a 10 with no bio/prompts is a swipe left, but I’ve matched with a few 8/9s that I had a lot in common with, but only had a date with one 9 from OLD and she was kinda boring and not all that smart which is a deal breaker for me. But I think I’m pretty good at conversing as most of my jobs have required a lot of it and I just get along with women better…
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:46 AM
1

I mean my range is max 25 miles, 10 on hinge, but most over 15 miles fell through… and the numbers I posted was my total online dating of 7 months starting about 7 years ago, which was interrupted by an LTR of 5 and a half years, followed by 8 months of being single til now, so that many matches in 15 months of being single but the two periods were 5.5 years apart. Doesn’t matter 20 first dates out of 100(or 150 if you count bumble where women message first but didn’t) but I wouldn’t stretch tha…
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:35 AM
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I haven’t asked for a number in a while, I don’t know if get them off the apps works that well anymore, if you’ve got them inclined enough to give that you could get them on a date in my mind, I try to get an in person connection as soon as reasonable because texting gets dry quickly and can be much more easily treated as “some rando from tinder” rather than “Shane who took me here and did this and was this way”
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:20 AM
1

Are we counting bumble matches that never message first? Idk it’s hard to quantify that, maybe 20 first dates for 100(or 150 if you count bumble that didn’t initiate)matches split across a few times being single over the last 7 years(had a 5.5 yr relationship in the middle of it). But again I could’ve swiped way more or realistically than you? I’m in SD which is less brutal than LA I’m told.
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:14 AM
1

I mean could be my bio, looks, career/image, I have a photo of me surfing well, which app I use(tinder is trash imo), how thoughtful my openers are, don’t get me wrong I get left on read after a first message as often as not.
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:09 AM
2

This sub has posts with far far better advice than I feel I can give you, I’d say I’m in the intermediate range with that kind of approach but actually do pretty well off the apps. I’d also recommend reading Models by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:04 AM
1

I’ve heard LA is brutal too, I mean those high value women have thousands if not tens of thousands of matches, but that woman sitting alone at the bar wished nf she wasn’t sitting there socially awkward could have you standing there making her feel something.
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:58 AM
2

Possibly too wild for a woman named Faith, I assume she’s Christian or was raised it. Maybe the 😏was too much but no idea. Can’t be sure, could’ve been too generic. Expand on that, had you matched somewhere else? Maybe she was creeped out, remembered a prior message/convo, idk. not sure why what’s your match distance if she lives in Mexico? What’s your match distance? People going on dates with someone from OLD more than 20 miles gets drastically less likely the further the distance. not sure, m…
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:53 AM
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If she’s super into you, go for the number, if she’s fairly into you the insta might be better. Depends on how good your insta is too.
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:30 AM
1

What are you saying? Post some screen shots to Imgur to show us otherwise how could we even know?
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:25 AM
6

You don’t always need to ask questions to continue a conversation. You will run the risk of being an interviewer and when you ask questions people have to give something up. Better to make statements or assumptions then stop talking and let them react. Say things in the affirmative, not “I believe that usually works” which has an upflection at the end, much better do have a downflection in seduction.
/r/seduction31/08/22 11:01 PM
1

Well it sounds like you’re equating those places to be somewhere that you only get rejected but the same could be true in a club and you could also have an experience where you are not rejected in a book or grocery store.
/r/seduction30/08/22 09:45 PM
3

You’ll get rejected at clubs too, but you might also not at a bookstore or grocery.
/r/seduction30/08/22 09:05 PM
3

Well that’s not true, you can sign a consent form, nod your head, pucker your lips… don’t get me wrong I’ve asked when I wasn’t sure and they seemed more like direct communicators or they spoke about boundaries etc, but the women I knew wanted a more assertive man who gave me clear physical initiation, eye contact in the right way, coy smiles when there was a sexualized topic, those times you don’t need to ask if you’re socially aware.
/r/seduction30/08/22 08:41 PM
130

What a rollercoaster of a person
/r/seduction30/08/22 08:34 PM
1

What, you can if it’s natural, I don’t leave it there but if they say something super fun I’ll do it while laughing and then remove it, if received well, then I may do it later on and leave it. If she mentions working out, climbing, surfing, sore back from work… “my cousin is a Masseuse and taught me a few things, here let me see your back. Don’t really ask it just tell it and if they’re not comfortable with that they’ll politely decline, but hey can I massage you, likely won’t work.
/r/seduction29/08/22 09:54 PM
1

Hot women is not enough of a reason for me to want to befriend people who are mean to me, that shows a lack of self respect and those women will smell that a mile away and not be interested. You need to live an honest life where you are actually friends with these people to genuinely have a shot with some of the women they hang with. Knowing them isn’t going to get you in those chicks pants, it’s being confident like they are that gets them groupies.
/r/seduction29/08/22 02:36 PM
1

Bro helping the coaches to make the team better isn’t embarrassing though, I presume you want to get into sports entertainment and there’s no shame in owning what you do but if you’re embarrassed or try to hide something you look vulnerable and insecure. Bullies are honestly pretty rare and if they are bullies why the fuck would you want to befriend them? Hot women, hard pass on that for me dog.
/r/seduction28/08/22 07:52 AM
1

There’s a lot of guides out there for being more confident by far better teachers/writers/coaches than me. I mean you think they’re better than you, but you metrics are all physical attributes. Are they smarter? Funnier? Better filters? Better at whatever you’re passionate about? More fun to be around? You can work on all those things. But stop putting them on a pedestal, most of them will never be professionals, they may neglect their education for practice or women, not get a great job… if you…
/r/seduction27/08/22 11:30 PM
1

Make fun of you for what? Assisting their team at practice on the coaching side of things? Work on your confidence and you’ll be fine, I mean shot make friends with them after practice by complimenting something and then meet them in class and get closer due to shared experiences, you’d want them to recognize you, if they didn’t they’re not noticing you at all. Also access to the hot chicks but being nervous isn’t going to get you in their pants but that who confidence thing just might(will)
/r/seduction27/08/22 11:13 PM
3

Slow burn is the way
/r/seduction27/08/22 08:39 PM
52

Yeah don’t say come meet my dog and then don’t have a dog lol, but you had drums and could teach her poorly at minimum. I use my plants, fish, records, some really good drinks with unique ingredients if anyone is looking for ideas of how simple it can be.
/r/seduction27/08/22 04:07 AM
2

Spoken like someone who hasn’t broken up with a coworker
/r/seduction27/08/22 12:53 AM
4

Sorry but it’s true
/r/seduction26/08/22 08:31 PM
2

Yeah this would be my take with a girl who likes flowers that much, or I’d just plan for bringing her some when she finally invites you to her place on a date, that’s the correct time to show up with flowers.
/r/seduction26/08/22 03:19 PM
81

I mean are you waiting for her to get over you so it’s more of a challenge?
/r/seduction26/08/22 01:30 PM
1

Bro I was being sarcastic… terrible read Edit: I’m not OP dog
/r/seduction25/08/22 04:36 PM
1

yeah but who has 20 days to get a date? that would take almost 3 weeks
/r/seduction25/08/22 06:33 AM
10

Bars and dates are different animals, you can make out with a chick you’ve barely said a few words to and mostly just danced. But your last bit is spot on, show that you’re comfortable escalating but also unbothered by being rejected or going at her pace, worst thing you can do is react negatively to being shut down just take it in stride cuz it doesn’t matter.
/r/seduction24/08/22 05:34 PM
1

And a man with female friends or females around him is socially validated even if they aren’t wing womanning for you, so don’t try to pull some chick you’re not sexually interested in when she might be a better friend option.
/r/seduction24/08/22 06:44 AM
5

But you don’t only have to hit on them. If it’s a friendly vibe, boyfriend etc a female friend can be a super good wingwoman. Met my college sweetheart that way where this hot chick who had a bf but was friends with me from class wingmanned me super hard in the library and hyped me up when I was at the bathroom. That ex told me about it a year into dating she wasn’t sure if she liked me til my friend hyped me up.
/r/seduction23/08/22 08:13 AM
1

Judging by your last comment this seems like projection of some deep seeded insecurities.
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:40 PM
3

And all the guns you can buy
/r/seduction21/08/22 08:04 AM
2

Bro I’ve had to flake for that and I wasn’t playing games or being “flakey” If they suggest rescheduling I give them the benefit of the doubt, if they don’t it might as well be a flake.
/r/seduction17/08/22 01:49 PM
2

Yeah maybe she had the shits or really did have a cousins bday
/r/seduction17/08/22 01:48 PM
2

Almost got me
/r/seduction17/08/22 01:47 PM
1

One of the better $12.95 I’ve likely ever spent.
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:10 AM
3

Nah, But keep that energy it’s gunna get you nowhere.
/r/seduction16/08/22 06:52 AM
2

Highly reccomend reading Models by Mark Manson, this sub often reccomend sit and it helped me so much.
/r/seduction16/08/22 06:50 AM
2

You had 7 people do you the courtesy of not wasting your time. You’ve only being going 2 weeks, imagine how good you’ll be once you’ve gotten more practice. No one is very good at anything 2 weeks in and even if they are they still get better with time.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:39 PM
4

When sampled through anonymous reporting 13% of women claimed to cheat and 20% of men did, according to a study by GSS(General Social Survey) so I think it’s way lower than you make it seem. And most super good looking guys a woman might be swayed by aren’t going for mid women…
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:38 PM
2

Oh, I mean there’s nothing inherently bad about being attracted to women. You should read Models by Mark Manson, might help frame your mind better.
/r/seduction15/08/22 10:18 PM
6

Well you know what to do
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:06 PM
1

Maybe the dead fish you’re with do that, but the ones that are actually good at sex do way way more.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:05 PM
3

I’ve had women be interested in my niche hobbies, fuck I’ve talked about DND, fish keeping, woodworking, the fact that you’re passionate and devoted to something is attractive.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:04 PM
1

Except being funny, confident, charismatic, fit, having a lot of money and literally a bunch of other things women find attractive… sure you’ll have less options but don’t act like you’ll have zero options because I’ve seen plenty of married ugly people with kids which means they’re fuckin.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:03 PM
1

Intimidating to who?
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:01 PM
2

Yeah that’s a good one, if you’ve ever talked about some hobby that she liked or was interested in, that would be best. Say she said “I love the beach, I really need to work on my tan” a month ago. A good text would be. “Hey______ it’s ______ I’m going to the beach either Saturday or Sunday, I was wondering if you’d like to go together? I got your number off the group chat and was thinking about how you mentioned you wanted to work on your tan.” I’d put the question/fun first, an indication that…
/r/seduction14/08/22 04:41 PM
9

First ones always the hardest, the 25th won’t be so bad, the hundredth will be easy… just keep cracking away at it. You didn’t get hurt, you weren’t ridiculed, you didn’t lose your job, all that fear was for naught. Remember that next time.
/r/seduction14/08/22 03:51 AM
2

Go to the bars around the college…
/r/seduction13/08/22 09:46 PM
0

Do they not have bars in your country?
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:08 PM
9

Nah if they texted every few days, completely pulling back and playing games would make it weird, she’s saying maintain the steady course.
/r/seduction13/08/22 06:37 PM
7

What would that achieve? Find out if she did(hint unless she faked 5, she did). Just play it cool, don’t be needy especially at your class or you’ll push her away. Don’t sweat it she will be back for more unless you play needy.
/r/seduction13/08/22 06:36 PM
16

Yeah OP doesn’t seem to have laid any emotional connection, purely physical and women aren’t nearly as aroused by that.
/r/seduction13/08/22 04:29 PM
2

You’re going to attract needy and low self esteem women by doing so, but you will attract women with it. Depends if that’s the type of woman you want or not wether you should do it. A strong woman without isn’t needy and has high self esteem won’t react the same way.
/r/seduction11/08/22 02:43 PM
26

If you’re funny enough you can laugh a woman into bed with you being hot is like negative funny points. Women don’t just go for the hottest guy in the vicinity. My best friend is better looking then me but every now and then id pull and he wouldn’t, one time he took home the hotter chick a d she was weird as hell and I took him the less hot who was super good in bed and rolled us a blunt after and was super chill… dont wreck a friendship over picking up chicks either, that’s some hoes before bro…
/r/seduction09/08/22 06:13 AM
1

Damn I’m surprised BFF is that bad. But yeah that’s not a great dynamic. Try to find some organic gay friends to help out lol cuz they’ve been really good wingmen in my experience.
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:27 AM
2

Gay guys could probably teach you about being sociable, give you styling/makeovers, and introduce you to their straight girlfriends… not to stereo type but I’ve had gay friends be great at all of the above… just be upfront that you’re straight and if someone pushes a boundary, bail.
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:17 AM
1

I promise you because everyone has a different set of circumstances, culture, and experiences that every single person on earth, billions of them, all think and see the world completely differently from you. You will statistically never meet someone who views everything the same as you. I love conversing, I’m a man who has been approached and love that too… if I feel so differently about this what else must I feel so differently about.
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:05 PM
1

Idk what kind of conversations you’re having but I enjoy conversing greatly because I get to make another person and often myself laugh while sharing who I am. If women hated being approached so much why do they do on so many dates with men that do it? I mean just think about that. Sure on a bus that’s a bit annoying cuz she’s stuck there, but at a park, beach, bar whatever that’s somewhere she or you can leave if it’s unwanted and if you have social skills you know when to dip.
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:00 PM
2

I listed 5 things you could say instead in parentheses… but it should be something you seed into the conversation early, and there should be several things you have ready and whichever she shows most interest in I would go with. I have a friend who would bring up fish, because he had an aquarium, and would say “come check out my aquarium”… they didn’t go over because of the aquarium they went over because it was plausible deniability. You could say “help fold my laundry” or “help me make my bed”…
/r/seduction04/08/22 07:39 PM
3

If it’s 3pm why would you be cooking dinner? Why would you kill your momentum with a meal? Why would you want to be really full and then try to fuck? Sure if it’s 7pm make something light put on a movie, kiss a bit more and then go further but don’t break momentum if you don’t have to. The “go back to my place for dinner(for a drink, to feed my puppy, to see my house plants, to check put my record collection, to watch this movie she hasn’t seen…) none of these are actually that important to do, …
/r/seduction04/08/22 07:06 PM
4

And some “gay” guys are bi so it works out.
/r/seduction04/08/22 07:00 AM
7

There are very often bi or straight women with gay friends at those bars, I’ve been to a few gay bars with my ex and her boyfriend brother and saw him get girls there… you’ve also likely got a lot less competition but I don’t personally do it unless I’m with gay/bi friends cuz taking up safe spaces for gay people if there’s a line outside just doesn’t sit right.
/r/seduction04/08/22 06:59 AM
1

But there were initial famous women that also went for him and a lot of famous men have dated famous women that then didn’t say Kim or Ariana.
/r/seduction04/08/22 06:26 AM
1

There is a really good part in the book Models, which I suggest you read, where they talk about how at some point you’re going to be seen as a creep through no fault of your own, and you just have to accept that or not talk to or ever be in any presence of a woman… I mean by your own admission you’re already perceived that way. And I’m not saying send unsolicited dick pics cuz you already may be previewed as a creep, do not do that, cuz that’s creepy and sexual harassment. People often get nervo…
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:54 PM
1

Being direct like that can certainly work but I find it better in bars or social settings like parties etc. cold on the street I go for observation and compliments or cold reads and usually had better luck with those.
/r/seduction31/07/22 11:18 PM
3

Maybe you should read into their comment more. Several hundred with no number means something is off.
/r/seduction31/07/22 11:17 PM
3

I agree, therapy and a psychiatrist to prescribe actual anti anxiety meds would be my first step.
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:18 PM
1

I have never once done that before kissing a woman, I’m sure some guys can pull it off with some girls but that could also completely backfire if you’re with the wrong type of girl and it’s not you. You don’t want to perform, as in you don’t want to do anything that’s not in your nature and inherently a performance because she will likely eventually figure that out and then she’s caught you being disingenuous. I’m not saying don’t build sexual tension, you have to do that, but just saying sexual…
/r/seduction30/07/22 01:02 AM
2

Kiss first, but always pull back before she does, ear/neck might be mixed into 2nd-3rd round of kissing depending on how passionate she is(very passionate, 2nd round/less passionate 3rd), then rest of the body after kissing her neck/ear erogenous zones. But don’t be formulaic about it, this is an average for how it goes for me not an instruction manual.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:44 PM
2

Like people, having women you’re not attracted to as friends have been some of the best wingmen I’ve ever had. Just the fact that you have female friends validates you as being much less likely of being a creep or weird or misogynistic etc.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:36 PM
1

Talk to strangers. A friendly hello, a quick chat up etc, you need to socialize yourself if you weren’t when you were younger.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:25 PM
1

The most attractive man doesn’t get every woman in the world, there’s billions for the rest of us. People would litterally dump and attractive person if they weren’t the right person for them. Don’t pedestalize. Shallow ones probably, a lot would be fine with someone who fills their heart with happiness because as you get older those looks fade and inner beauty and how they care for you is all that’s left. That idea has always existed, it’s literally called “the grass is always greener” and it’s…
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:01 PM
5

Fuck that’s a good mindset, the first couple always suck. I would just do it with random dudes at the bar as a social warm up but it’s never the same.
/r/seduction20/07/22 06:36 PM
3

That is certainly the one of the goals of it. It’s also a bit eccentric or pretentious but then there’s like Village people and Disney albums in there too. I personally move something around when I enter a new space to feel more control while there and want to extend that to other people.
/r/seduction19/07/22 09:35 PM
34

Yeah I like to say, “flip through my records for something to listen to while I make us a drink” Ive got like Elton John, Dolly Parton, Wu Tang Clan, Nat King Cole, Sinatra, and various genres like Calypso, Parisian, Jazz, etc so she’s not just sitting there twiddling her thumbs while I make it.
/r/seduction19/07/22 05:24 AM
1

👏
/r/seduction02/07/22 10:55 PM
154

I’m not saying don’t ever approach at a grocery store, but it’s not likely going to be a high success area compared to a bar or social activity. But if you must… Wait til she’s in the fruit section and say nice melons really loud while holding some honey dews.
/r/seduction28/06/22 07:41 AM
1

Right so then that would be the cops trespassing you, that’s what I thought had to happen. Like me telling you I’m suing you and you need to be in court doesn’t mean anything because that’s not legally serving you. I thought cops had to trespass people that the business or agents of it had banned from the premises but until a cop had it was more of a warning than something actually enforceable.
/r/seduction27/06/22 10:30 PM
2

This is just practice, don’t build up any expectations, just be confident, ask her about herself to see if you’d want to date her but don’t just interview her, make statements and assumptions maybe even disqualify her playfully if she says she’s a vegetarian say, “I could never date one of those, you be working at the pet hospital crazy hours and probably fall in love with all the pets instead of me” or something playful like that. You got this.
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:00 PM
1

Ooh yikes
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:54 PM
1

Ah good to know, where was this just out of curiosity, like state or country no need for super specifics.
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:53 PM
1

Right, I’m not doubting their authority to inform someone they need to leave the property, I’m doubting if it’s a legally actionable order like could he be arrested next time he is on property if he complies when they or a cop asks him to leave. I thought it was that a cop has to legally trespass you from a premises and then if you return you can be arrested.
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:52 PM
9

Did an actual police office trespass you from the premises, cuz if not as far as I understand you aren’t really trespassed and couldn’t go to jail just because a security guard said you’re banned only if a cop does. Could be different in different jurisdictions but also no need to go back there.
/r/seduction27/06/22 05:33 AM
5

I had a co worker that was also a model, he looked like hot Jesus. He said it was very hard to date because he always felt like women were with him for his looks and not his personality. It’s the “curse of the beautiful woman” where you can never truly see who she is but in reverse.
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:32 PM
1

As I was scrolling bumble last night I read a bio that said “because meeting my dream man in a grocery store hasn’t worked out yet” I’m sure some people feel like they just want to do their hobby and not get hit on there too, everyone has different preferences and shared interest is better than a grocery store, but I don’t think it’s as off limits as a gym.
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:10 PM
1

Eh, I disagree with a grocery store being off-limits the way a gym is and even a gym it is fine if she approaches you and shows interest... I've gotten a date/number from a grocery store but she was kinda weird so idk if that helps my argument
/r/seduction25/06/22 07:07 AM
9

Yeah if someone won’t communicate with you when they have a problem, resentment will fester and it will end or you both will be miserable, so yeah op needs to think which they prefer.
/r/seduction24/06/22 02:03 AM
3

I’m definitely not an 8, 6-7 more likely and I’ve never had a bad interaction where I was called a creep, if that happens you’re definitely doing something very wrong. It’s not that complicated, I usually start with a compliment, then an observation, try to sneak a joke in, if she seems to reciprocate well and if you’re socially intelligent it’s pretty clear if she is, then make the ask, sure I get rejected sometimes but sometimes I don’t but I certainly don’t get put on a sex offender registry …
/r/seduction18/06/22 03:49 AM
2

Ok but the more to the story is another girl telling her you were “weird” being a virgin isn’t “weird” but being creepy or desperate or inappropriate will get you blocked.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:38 AM
1

She wouldn’t have blocked you simply upon discovering you were a virgin, there’s more to this story.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:12 AM
1

Risk is the wrong way to look at it, simply talking to a woman isn’t a risk, I mean unless she clearly has a boyfriend or you do something inappropriate but just observe a bit and talk to a bunch of people, men and women, hand out compliments and you may get introduced don’t go expecting anything and it will all fall together, but go out expecting to to be risky and you’re already fucked.
/r/seduction12/06/22 07:43 AM
1

Talk to some guys and get over the social anxiety hump and if you’re friendly and looking social women will be much more open than if they feel singled out by you and you’re nervous.
/r/seduction12/06/22 07:39 AM
1

Talking to everyone you come across and don’t try to get anything from women when you first start approaching other than a conversation.
/r/seduction03/06/22 12:17 AM
3

Do t ask for her contact, that shows her you don’t have the confidence to even speak to her. Going in her phone would’ve been creepy as fuck in my opinion. Returning it and saying something like “I know you just left this because you wanted me to come talk to you” would be way better. But again if you’re too afraid to ask for her number how are you going to even date her or talk to her? She’s just a person at the end of the day, talk to her like one and if she likes you it will be easy, if she d…
/r/seduction03/06/22 12:15 AM
1

Do it a shit ton, start small looking to gain nothing more than getting better with interactions and build from there. It won’t happen in a day or week or month but in time you’ll get out of it what you put in.
/r/seduction02/06/22 11:39 PM
2

I’m sure she loved all that validation she got from being asked to stay over and over.
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:49 AM
1

I’ve gone solo to a few shows and hooked up after/gotten dates, it’s actually kinda less pressure because no friends are there to see you get rejected so it’s easier for me to be confident of that makes sense… I’d recommend it at least a few times.
/r/seduction14/05/22 03:04 AM
123

Is she REALLY into board games? If not, I don’t know why the fuck you would do this but if this is the type of person you are then do it as it will weed a lot of people who don’t want to do that out for you.
/r/seduction09/05/22 03:28 AM
2

Yeah that’s usually an inappropriate question except on Visa forms. It also assumes someone isn’t from somewhere because of the way they look which can get problematic fast, wouldn’t ever open with that.
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:56 PM
4

Don’t compliment them for wining the genetic lottery. They know you think they’re pretty if you’re cold approaching, at least compliment her for something she worked to achieve like “damn I might need to hire you for some personal styling” if she dresses trendy or “that necklace really brings out the color in your eyes”
/r/seduction07/05/22 09:35 AM
3

Yeah the nationality one especially, I’d expect a lot of “American” if they were born here because that’s what determines your nationality, but you likely mean ethnicity and should probably know the difference if you’re taking that angle. Fwiw I’ve dated a Filipino and Armenian and both of them hated when people automatically assumed they weren’t American or asked about their nationality even though one wasn’t even born here.
/r/seduction07/05/22 09:33 AM
1

Online dating
/r/seduction07/05/22 07:46 AM
8

I’d switch to a different dating advice youtuber and next go back after that one.
/r/seduction03/05/22 05:32 PM
5

I’d rather be broke with bitches than only having bitches because they want my money, you’re basically paying for it at that point.
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:24 AM
1

I spent a long time trying to deal with it before turning to some professional help/therapy. Changed a lot of my mindset and I’ve noticed much better results dating/gaming.
/r/seduction27/04/22 05:35 AM
2

As long as you don’t pick up on wasted chicks when you’re dead sober, no one should question it, but going after wasted chicks is usually seen as predatory.
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:57 AM
1

It could be your turn til you both die of old age happily married, you just don’t own her so it paints her like she isn’t your property. You can look at it negatively if you’d like but I don’t.
/r/seduction23/04/22 09:16 PM
1

The only person who can say there is no improving is at the very very top with all the success and any woman they want, that’s not you and it has never been achieved by anyone but you gotta keep improving. Work on confidence and you insecurities, if you don’t fix those you can’t claim you’ve fixed them.
/r/seduction23/04/22 04:25 AM
5

Leave your door open in NYC? I cant imagine doing that, if anything that make me feel less safe and I'm a guy.
/r/seduction21/04/22 08:29 AM
2

Yeah it depends on how well you can pull it off, walking down the street trying to go five any woman you see = lame as hell, giving them one for accomplishing something and genuinely meaning it = totally fine, but you could also hug them for getting a strike if there’s other indicators. Honestly it’s more about not forcing anything and letting the touch happen naturally.
/r/seduction18/04/22 06:31 AM
1

That’s not really how averages work, unless it’s like a school for basketball or volleyball players… and again, there’s no way pretty much all the girls are your height regularly if yours actually 5’8. Like out of all the women I’ve dated or been with one was 5’8 and I haven’t been selectively looking for smaller. Vans are pretty thick but still look good. Also your college has dances? In the US? That’s so weird to me. Or do you mean like frat/sorority formals/parties?
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:54 AM
1

Do you go to school in Scandinavia or something? 5’8 for women in the US for example is way above the average of 5’3 and at 5’8.5 you’re half an inch below average, meaning like 45% should be shorter than you. Also wear some vans or thicker soles shoes and now you’re above average in height.
/r/seduction09/04/22 09:45 PM
5

Do it as he is on his way out so he is t mid work out or on your way out so it isn’t awkward if he has a gf or isnt into it… but simply chatting him up and dropping your number would be fine, it’s men harassing women in gyms that’s frowned down upon and guys are only supposed to do so if a woman initiated, generally speaking.
/r/seduction08/04/22 06:23 PM
1

Yes and as you get more rejections and successes your sucesses per rejection goes down, even the hottest most desirable men get rejected from time to time.
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:59 PM
1

I agreed with everything until this… what kind of accounting work do you do?
/r/seduction06/04/22 06:48 PM
6

Do you think women like when you shower and groom yourself too? (Real)
/r/seduction04/04/22 05:29 PM
1

All of those things she tests out seeing if he goes one way or another sound like something that could be called a test.
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:04 AM
11

Bro I’ve literally listened to my exes friends tell each other about testing guys in different ways. It’s wild you don’t think that happens but I know for a fact it does. It’s not always testing mind you, but it does happen.
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:31 AM
28

How did she know you didn’t have them, also this story feels very unnatural.
/r/seduction21/03/22 05:30 AM
0

You should watch “Dear White People” it will certainly give you a lot of perspective here.
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:35 PM
38

Bars and clubs have wildly different atmospheres, a cozy dive bar is easier for me to talk to women and get results than a super loud dance floor where I might dance with or make out with there but it doesn’t lead back home or anywhere as often. But online dating if you can get good photos and write well.
/r/seduction13/03/22 04:44 AM
1

A bar, a hobby, a social circle are the three most obvious ones, and not some solo hobby like videogames thing group stuff like kickball or some group activity, beach or park clean ups that kind of stuff where you have a perfect reason to approach.
/r/seduction09/03/22 11:01 PM
3

Are you meeting them in a friendly way or in a “I’m interested in you” way? Much harder to convert a friend than someone that you make your intentions clear to. Also having an easier hook up will wash the smell of desperation off you and your game will be better. Do it ethically of course, don’t play with someone’s heart but if you can find someone happy to be a hook up while you search your luck will go way up.
/r/seduction07/03/22 10:18 AM
2

You’ll love this one, I was at a party and dropped some ice from the fridge and crushed it and she said “what was that” and I said an icebreaker. I think I read it off Reddit but it’s a solid one.
/r/seduction27/02/22 04:35 PM
5

You’re at an age where dad bod isn’t desirable yet when there’s frat boys with chiseled abs, at 30 with a solid career you can get away with it more easily… hit the gym but keep spitting game, maybe lower you standards and get some sucess under you belt with not so physically attractive(but still great) women.
/r/seduction19/02/22 08:27 PM
12

Maybe in 2008, not anymore.
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:31 PM
20

Maybe she doesn’t want to be hit on at the gym and if she uses the one next to you people will think you’re a couple and not bother her.
/r/seduction17/02/22 06:04 PM
8

They’re being mean but it’s a terrible opener, you don’t even know if she wants to talk to you. Keep it simple and compliment some outfit choice, jewelry, something classic like that.
/r/seduction17/02/22 06:03 PM
6

Truer words have never been spoken
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:21 PM
11

This isn’t some movie where everyone knows eachother. Also what would you have a bad rep for? No one cares if you’re nervous they’re far more concerned with themselves. Just go around and talk to people, men, women whatever just get some practice.
/r/seduction16/02/22 05:50 AM
1

If you go to college in another city and don’t move back after you won’t keep in contact with 95% of the people you knew and were friends with in HS. Being flirty and confident won’t harm your reputation just don’t be a dick or creepy or put women in situations they don’t want to be in and you’re good to go.
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:51 PM
3

One thing that helped me with confidence after getting out of a 5 year was the pain rejection from some woman you don’t even know is a drop compared to the ocean of pain a long term relationship ending feels like. If you can get through that a little rejection is nothing.
/r/seduction09/02/22 09:54 PM
13

She could’ve just been sleeping with one guy for the _ years she has lived there and was loud then, some people for relationships with just one person and have sex with them.
/r/seduction09/02/22 08:12 PM
4

Yeah if a woman shows hesitation and brings up you sex trafficking her, it’s a pretty clear no that she’s afraid to tell you because she thinks you’ll keep bothering her… op needs to take that hint
/r/seduction09/02/22 07:14 AM
16

She is lightly saying no because she fears if she says it outright you may harm her. Maybe you won’t but she doesn’t know that and that does happen. If it’s not a “fuck yes!” It’s a no, if she tries to ghost you it’s a no.
/r/seduction09/02/22 06:34 AM
9

Try it again, therapists are like shoes, you gotta try a bunch on until you find the pair that fits. Sometimes you buy a pair and it gives you blisters(made things worse) so you gotta take it as a loss and try another pair on.
/r/seduction09/02/22 02:56 AM
-3

I don’t think they thought he was a threat, might’ve just been seeing how it was going and phrased it that way.
/r/seduction06/02/22 11:51 PM
1

Mgk is kinda ugly but go off also not necessarily, I’ve had to wait a day to get a response and still gotten more dates. Maybe that’s just your own experience.
/r/seduction05/02/22 06:20 PM
5

Maybe her dad died, dog died, fight with a roommate, good poisoning, forgot because as she read it something came up from work like got called in… or just led you on, either way just wait it out. If you never hear from her it is what it is.
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:58 AM
1

Presumably y’all know each other and there’s no cold open, if she is willing to tell you she has a crush she wants to fuck, not sure it could be easier.
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:51 AM
1

What advice could you even be seeking?
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:43 AM
2

There’s nothing more generic than “hi my name is this and I’m interested in you”, I don’t know what could be more generic than that. They get approached a lot, they’ve heard your introduction before many times between classes, at parties, on the street, in parks, at bars(depending on drinking age where you are). There have been numerous posts on this sub about not just opening with “hi I’m this and I have no reason to talk to you but you’re hot and I’ve displayed no reason for you to want this i…
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:20 AM
5

I would never go with just what’s your name and you caught my attention, it’s so generic and she’s likely heard it before and wondering what the point of meeting you is, because you want to know her isn’t a great reason(though not a terrible one) find something to comment on. “Hey love your shoes”, “oh are you taking philosophy(or whatever book you see her with) do you recommend that course I was thinking of taking it”, “I keep seeing you in here and wanted to say you’ve got great fashion/style/…
/r/seduction02/02/22 11:13 PM
1

How would you want her to feel/react if you posted a photo where you looked really handsome? Tell you to stop, take it down, that you’re trying to get other girls, end it with you? Treat her the same as you’d want to be treated, hype her up and have some self confidence or it won’t be your turn for long.
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:19 PM
1

Right? I would not do that and I’m a guy, imagine a woman’s apprehensions to doing that.
/r/seduction31/01/22 06:58 AM
5

Just wait til you get in a relationship, have a job, or kids… these 10 steps is nothing by comparison.
/r/seduction31/01/22 06:57 AM
36

That’s what this whole sub is about, any cold open in the streets can translate to a bar or most anywhere else.
/r/seduction29/01/22 10:38 PM
3

Jesus I figured this was college age or high school behavior
/r/seduction28/01/22 11:34 PM
1

I mean they help a lot, if the didnt there wouldn’t be an entire profession devoted to it and degrees and doctorates accrediting them.
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:04 PM
4

It’s not, they’re wrong, follow your heart.
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:54 AM
2

As someone whose dated a best friend of about 8 years, you’ve got that friend one mentality while OP is following his heart and has a date now.
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:54 AM
1

Yeah without the socialization skills, interests, etc it might do more damage than good unless OP is very attractive
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:42 AM
1

Have you sought professional counseling regarding this? Great place to start.
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:41 AM
5

Or are scammers or dudes trying to see some d. If they haven’t seen it in real life first they ain’t getting a pic.
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:37 PM
1

You’ve got a lot to learn and a long way to get out of your head. Attractive women like attention and trust me they are big bad scary monsters like you make them out to be. I know a number of women in the 10k+ followers club some in the 100k+ they’re surprisingly normal people for the most part who have insecurities and problems too. Also how do you know all the conversations with guys were outcome drive, you may have been the target because gay and bi guys exist. Talking with strangers where yo…
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:43 PM
14

And don’t just compliment the features she has from winning a generic lottery, compliment style, hair, jewelry, things they choose… but chat her up once or twice about something more than getting gas and then ask… plant the seed and then once she wonders about you then ask name and number.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:43 PM
73

Idk did you enjoy yourself? That’s a win. Could you have gotten laid, maybe, or maybe just gotten blue balled, that’s not really a win… I think a lot of people on here obsess over getting their dick in something and lose sight of the other ways you can enjoy a person. It’s like Aldiss snow from Forgetting Sarah marshal talking about how sex is the ultimate goal and Peter is disagreeing and it makes Aldiss look like a dick and Peter look like a great guy.
/r/seduction25/01/22 08:37 AM
4

If they want to make out with you, they’re likely going to enjoy it and have many of the same insecurities. Go slow, figure out what you like, and practice a lot with them… eventually you’ll get good.
/r/seduction25/01/22 05:05 AM
2

I’m no expert in the field, you may get great advice from a MFT(marriage and family therapy) because they specialize in relationships but a psychologist may have higher education and would also know about relationships etc, I would speak with your PCP or insurance and see what’s covered as well. I mean idk what country you’re even from so it might be wildly different there.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:52 AM
2

Just because one pair of shoes doesn’t fit doesn’t mean it’s not worth searching for a pair that does even if the first few stores don’t have it.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:45 AM
3

Are you seeing anyone professionally about these feelings? Probably(read definitely) a solid place to start.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:43 AM
1

Because the get out of the house and do things. That’s attractive to women so they inherently have more confidence because women are attracted to them.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:41 AM
3

Has anyone ever told you you don’t have to get good at hobbies, you just have to enjoy doing them.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:39 AM
5

Yeah there’s no need to talk. Especially about other subjects, and tension is you friend. Maybe, “you have such soft lips” or “I’m beginning to think you’re interested” or if you’re out and about “go somewhere more quiet/check out this cool thing at my place we talked about earlier(for me it’s my record player or plants or secret daiquiri recipe)”
/r/seduction24/01/22 06:18 PM
3

How long between starting for play and sex was there? I normally take 30-40 minutes minimum a first time with someone to get them very aroused and relaxed and hopefully an orgasm or two so you knows she’s good. Also post this to r/sex or check put the dozens of posts of the exact same scenario with a lot of your concerns certainly answered.
/r/seduction23/01/22 06:35 PM
28

If you’re lying on top of her in missionary and lift your chest up in a certain way, there may be a farting noise, also sometimes air will blow out of her vagina also sounding like a farting noise.
/r/seduction23/01/22 06:32 PM
7

But she only won the genetic lottery to look that way, she will have heard that from 100 needy guys stick in her dms where you’re way better off complimenting her style, rings, piercing, haircut or something she actually made the conscious decision to do.
/r/seduction22/01/22 05:25 AM
3

Oh then if you do still wish to see her I’d ask if she’d like to go on a lower pressure date like coffee, a walk in a park or something mellow. Maybe she gets an upset stomach from anxiety and that’s why she wanted to dip. You might get a “didn’t feel the spark” but whatever the answer to a question unasked is always no.
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:45 AM
14

No eye contact, not good conversation, wanted to leave early all point to not being interested and while saying he is attractive and not looking for anything serious it sounds like she was letting him down easy, the dodged kiss confirms this. We don’t know what led to this but I don’t think she was begging for it like you’re making it sound like.
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:04 AM
22

When she is leaving is a great time, she isn’t into it she can just go, right as she starts and has to shut you down, you just made it awkward when she’s trying to workout.
/r/seduction19/01/22 09:21 PM
7

You’re always going to hear about how great or how bad things are when a lot of people it’s mid and they don’t bother making posts. When ive been single I don’t get 10 matches a day or 0 for months, I will get a couple a week and some of those lead to dates and some ghost for no explicable reason… point is I’m not going to make a post about how it’s going alright because why would I I do t need to vent or brag about doing alright.
/r/seduction19/01/22 09:15 PM
9

That can’t be right unless there’s like 10 kids and you’re in the bottom 5
/r/seduction19/01/22 02:53 AM
9

Wtf? Who told you this? I’d say they’re the best source when it comes to dating them, both the one you’re dating and other women that can view it from their perspective… communication with women is what dating as a straight male is and it sounds like you don’t want to do that. A week of silence after what could’ve been a friendly let down communicated you weren’t interested. You don’t need to text every day all day but a text with purpose like setting something up about the next date on day 2/3 …
/r/seduction18/01/22 06:49 PM
1

You’re trying to use logic to solve an emotional issue, that never works. She didn’t like how needy or fast it moved, do you think pursuing her further as soon as you can is honestly the way to get her back? You would be doing exactly what pushed her away. Taking your time with other people and being her friend and not pushing anything until maybe she realizes is by far your best bet.
/r/seduction17/01/22 02:19 AM
6

Check out the tips on giving oral in r/sex it has way better advice than what you’ll probably gather here(no shade towards seduction but seduction and sex are different).
/r/seduction17/01/22 12:32 AM
3

Also a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush is exactly this situation.
/r/seduction15/01/22 04:09 PM
9

I’m confused is the woman you’re on a “date” with not seeing that you’re attracting women by literally seeing one cold approach you and ask for your number? Why do you need to accept the offer and give out your number for her to see that. This game might work but it might backfire just as easily. I would wager if she was the jealous type or had some insecurity issues it might work well but then you’re just attracting someone that come along with those qualities, and I personally wouldn’t want th…
/r/seduction15/01/22 06:40 AM
1

Maybe start with a hand on his arm, then kissing, then touching elsewhere then sloppy 9000… don’t just go straight for the goal.
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:42 AM
3

“Hey just so you know I’m not looking for anything serious at the moment but I think you’re really sexy.
/r/seduction15/01/22 12:01 AM
3

Text her with a purpose at the very least, not “hey it’s Mars!” Or something purposeless.
/r/seduction14/01/22 07:51 PM
1

Eh I’ve made out with women I wasn’t that interested in but it felt good momentarily and then I didn’t hang out with them again for some other reason, even getting into a long term relationship with someone else… point is it may have had to do with something you did or nothing at all.
/r/seduction13/01/22 01:31 AM
1

You’re super right, could be all or some of the above Or her cat died, or she got Covid, or a million other things that changed her emotions and someone else may have comforted her better or who knows…
/r/seduction13/01/22 01:28 AM
1

Like where? Right next to Camp Pendleton or like pacific beach or downtown? Also certain dance clubs have way better ratios than dive bars etc.
/r/seduction12/01/22 11:51 PM
1

What bars were you going to? I’ve found it pretty even at the ones I hit up maybe 10% more guys… there are just about the same number of men and women in the county.
/r/seduction12/01/22 09:47 PM
1

I don’t know more than 5 people in the military here in Sd, it’s just as much a college town with UCSD, USD, SDSU and like 8 other colleges. I looked up demographics it’s 1.639 million men, 1.623 million female so like 16,000 more males in a county of 3,263,000+ people
/r/seduction12/01/22 09:45 PM
2

Oh I believe it, just putting that there so OP can get some more context as to they why it’s better to do it this way.
/r/seduction12/01/22 06:29 PM
3

Oh yeah I could never do it first sentence, I just give a friendly compliment or conversation and if I see some interest I fuel that a bit until a reason for a number manifests. Getting the number of a disinterested woman is going to be a fake or get you blocked, better to have her interested first.
/r/seduction12/01/22 06:18 PM
6

See that’s why you go in planning not to ask for a number, simply be there for an interaction with no pressure or expectation and on the off chance she is clearly into you, surprise yourself by asking for a number. Taking the pressure off is key, seeming nervous shows you lack confidence which some women will respond negatively to or just won’t bite…
/r/seduction12/01/22 07:18 AM
7

Yeah it will help because you’re not expecting anything so you won’t seem to them like you’re expecting something, they can smell neediness and will be turned off but the less you seem like this is something you don’t have the confidence to do all the time the more likely you’ll find success. No expectations brings the pressure off and you don’t even get rejected, but if a woman is clearly interested in you thats when you make your ask.
/r/seduction12/01/22 07:09 AM
22

Don’t even go after numbers yet, just approach, causal talk, exit if they don’t seem interested. Eventually you’ll have one that clearly is and you’ll get that number or date.
/r/seduction12/01/22 07:04 AM
3

Lol that’s such a funny response, coffee is a fine first date, don’t let them psych you out. It may not lead to sex but as long as you build that sexual tension maybe you’ll get invited over next time. Doesn’t have to be a one and done deal my guy.
/r/seduction11/01/22 05:56 PM
7

Mightve been a weird shot test she does to everyone, doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong other than maybe showing too much push not enough pull. Idk I wouldn’t let this bring you down. Edit: I’ve had someone say just about the same, kiss me at the end hard and say “don’t forget about me” and never was available again… shit like this sadly happens.
/r/seduction09/01/22 10:10 PM
1

This, the more lady friends in a class you have the more credibility you have in that class to other women. I had this one super hot friend in a few marketing classes, she had a bf and it was clear we were just friends but she was the best wing woman I ever had when we would study together. I got multiple girls numbers through her wing manning for me and even had her study with this woman I had just met and had a huge crush on and while I was gone grabbing a snack apparently she hyped me up(I ha…
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:34 PM
1

Nah bro just gym /s
/r/seduction06/01/22 04:17 PM
1

Therapists don’t prescribe anything, those are psychiatrists. Therapists are not yes men, they ask you questions to help you work through your issues and insecurities. Some people like 21 year old virgins with lots of anxiety need to cope a bit more than a gym can offer.
/r/seduction06/01/22 04:16 PM
5

Speak with a therapist about how you’re feeling, increase your social circle with hobbies, improve your health by hitting the gym, improve your job, learn to communicate effectively with the opposite sex, eventually it will fall into place if you do all this, if you wallow and complain and feel bad, it might not.
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:50 AM
9

What are the mixed signals? A lot of people only text when there’s purpose, she’s literally sending pics of herself probably hoping for compliments and to keep herself on your mind. I’d hit her with “are you projecting” or “well it seemed like you had a crush on me” something to fish out her answer. Worst case she doesn’t and you’re in the same boat if you don’t say anything or you go on wondering if it’s mutual if you say yes right away.
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:33 AM
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You’re going to be that wrong and hit me with a “k” lol
/r/seduction05/01/22 10:12 PM
2

You couldn’t have interpreted what I was saying more incorrectly. You look for an engagement ring before hitting on her, because it doesn’t just magically appear, not after the fact and do all that stuff you implied I was suggesting.
/r/seduction05/01/22 08:42 PM
5

Look at their left hands next time, there should be a ring with a rock on the one next to the pinky that’s a dead giveaway.
/r/seduction05/01/22 05:06 PM
1

Yep, dated a girl in college who was one of my best friends in high school. But you’ll need to build up some mystery, sexual tension, etc… Also I don’t think her stripping down to change in front if you is a definite friendship behavior. She might just be a tease.
/r/seduction05/01/22 05:02 PM
1

I’m not interested in people who say they are one way but then act another way, being disingenuous is a red flag for me.
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:31 AM
1

“It’s hard finding other vegetarians to date, with this kind of dietary restriction you meatless eligible people” idk I’m sure I can come up with a better one but you get the idea, you’re even framing you to dating as something that may happen. After a few different question, “hey my friend told me about this new vegan place called _______, would you like to go try it put with me next Thursday or Friday?”
/r/seduction05/01/22 02:09 AM
1

I mean, those are kinda generic, not super flirty or emotional enticing questions she has likely answered 20 times. I wouldn’t ask about her New Years incase she spent it with someone else, I wouldn’t ask favorite recipe but “what’s your favorite comfort food” or “what dish reminds you of home” “if we were going to cook a meal together what dish would you want to make” The first two invoke emotion, the last one pairs you as a dynamic.
/r/seduction05/01/22 02:00 AM
2

Have you put your profile on one of those advice/rating subreddits? Maybe upon close inspection they’re seeing something you haven’t thought of.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:56 AM
2

I’m not OP, I have no problem translating online dating matches into dates. I’m telling you it was online dating because you typed “in person ?” Which sounded like you didn’t understand that this was not an in person interaction and your follow up advice was extremely generic.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:18 AM
2

Details of what the dietary choice and mutual interest would help here. Probably some joke about it or cheesey pick up pun. “I’d send you a cheesy pick up pun but I’d worry you might be lactose intolerant” for example.
/r/seduction05/01/22 12:47 AM
2

Sounds like online dating if they are saying “matched with”
/r/seduction05/01/22 12:43 AM
10

So how’s the whole sex before marriage thing work? Or is it like an opt in sort of thing where people ignore that but still hate the gays?
/r/seduction04/01/22 11:11 PM
1

Listen I was that way back in hs, I’d have a girl over at my house, no one home, on my bed, touching my arm and questions “is she into me? If I kiss her will she think I’m a creep?” What helped me get over it was learning to read interest, if you can read interest better the fear of rejection subsides with it. Also managing expectations reduces that fear for me, if you don’t expect anything out of it you go in with a nothing to lose attitude.
/r/seduction04/01/22 08:05 PM
1

Maybe try to actually bring up an observation or compliment, build a little rapport before just asking their name, give them a reason to actually want to know you/your name.
/r/seduction04/01/22 07:15 PM
3

Trust me as someone who just was broken up with after a 5 year relationship, rejection really doesn’t sting by comparison, it’s a drop in an ocean... It’s not worth fearing.
/r/seduction04/01/22 07:14 PM
2

Nah having a bunch of houseplants for whatever reason is something a lot of women have focused on and brought up about me. Idk if that’s a feminine or neutral hobby but it’s definitely not often considered masculine. Also chatting women up at the nursery is a solid cold approach topic if they are buying a plant you have thriving at home. “Come check out my plants, I’ll give you some cuttings”
/r/seduction04/01/22 06:17 PM
1

That’s called an anecdote and choking someone in the past isn’t mutually exclusive to choking them to death in the future is it?
/r/seduction04/01/22 04:21 PM
1

Don’t put too much pressure on tomorrow, you’ve probably accidents cold approaches in the past and you’re going to be doing it for a very long time.
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:45 AM
1

Before you go try it, I know someone who died from this and some people have gone to jail for manslaughter, if you choke someone who consents to it during sex and they die, you’re still on the hook.
/r/seduction04/01/22 12:57 AM
2

Is inviting yourself over not a bit weird in your culture? It is for mine, you can ask what would you like to do, but then you don’t show initiative. You could suggest a movie date(but not at hers), get the answer, and then say “at yours or mine?” Also if you have those kind of signals early on at a bar, I personally would not be waiting until closing time to head somewhere, 11-12pm at the latest to leave to somewhere more quiet because people do really get tired, if you wait til 2-3 then forepl…
/r/seduction03/01/22 06:30 PM
4

Get a few, pothos and inch plants are stupidly easy to grow, water once a week and feet every few months. Shows you can nurture/care for something.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:25 PM
78

No pulling back first is a great tip, it leaves them wanting more and they feel like there’s a chase still, if the making out ending is on their terms and you don’t halt it they think you’re too eager. I hate these kind of games but I’ve found it to be true as weird as it sounds.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:09 PM
1

Nope, I’m saying being ugly does not prevent you from getting women or men depending on your gender and sexual preference, don’t put words in other peoples mouths thank you.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:01 PM
1

I mean I doubt you put that, but some things sound like that, without directly saying it. I see it on women’s profiles and it puts me off for the same reason. I mean I have a big nose and ears and I used to hear that shot all the time and all I could get was relationships but never hook ups, I dropped the nice guy attitude and was much more confident and direct that I was interested in them for more than just nice and friendly reasons but not too direct that sex was the only thing I wanted and f…
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:55 AM
1

Do you get in your head and psych yourself out? Do you break the touch barrier? Does the flirting suggest you two being together, getting physical, innuendos? How are you creating sexual tension? I’d look up “Marni your personal wing girl”s stuff on YouTube, she’s got some solid advice on this kind of stuff.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:37 AM
1

I think you’re confusing changing things about yourself from things you have made or are doing wrong. Changing your passion for climbing is different from having a dating profile that says “why do women just play games” or “why won’t anyone date me?” I haven’t looked at your profiles but can you see how different those are? What specifics did the close girl friends say to change?
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:31 AM
1

Well there ya go, hopefully the rest of the sub that’s convinced that’s a deal breaker sees this.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:29 AM
1

Also sounds like you’re being very friendly but not very flirt, have you looked into ways to create sexual tension, making sure you’re not just being a pushover or needy? Women just aren’t attracted to that kind of stuff, they want someone confident with who they are, what they want, who doesn’t need them but will have them along for the ride if the woman can convince them, they want a challenge not a freebie.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:22 AM
1

Who is giving you this advice to change everything about who you are, what you like etc? That’s like the exact opposite advice you always see on this sub.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:19 AM
3

You’re willingness to change that(climbing) about you screams neediness, you’d give up your passion for them… we aren’t trying to be mean, but that’s a helpful think to know about yourself if you’re asking what to improve. Edit the climbing part not the neediness part.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:08 AM
0

Nah I have ugly friends that are funny and charming enough that they pull chicks, there’s way more than looks that get you laid.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:07 AM
5

What do you mean however? You should absolutely expect greater than one success after hundreds of approaches or you need to seriously look at yourself and what you’re doing wrong, seek some therapy, take some classes, read some books on the matter ba use no ones success rate should be that low.
/r/seduction03/01/22 03:48 AM
6

Damn so many homies jumping on the offer, better change your user name to GuruPieStar.
/r/seduction02/01/22 11:31 PM
2

Say you had to get something done, were worried about burning your meal, whatever… you had to leave but you want to see if you can “help”
/r/seduction02/01/22 03:48 AM
43

Probably a good chunk of this sub would happily take that.
/r/seduction01/01/22 10:13 PM
5

Being nice isn’t a turn off, not being a turn on is a turn off. You were nice enough that she doesn’t think you’re an asshole and it’s hard for her to have to let you down so she’s even complimenting you, but you weren’t a turn on and she didn’t feel the lust or desire to be with you. Being nice rarely makes a woman want to sleep with you, you have to build attraction to get there.
/r/seduction31/12/21 11:18 PM
1

I did, it’s pretty spot on.
/r/seduction31/12/21 11:07 PM
5

Yeah. But people dating a co worker really do need to think about it, they’re probably not going to risk something getting messy at work with someone they aren’t super into… maybe she’ll change her mind after a while, but sometimes being patient can play out better.
/r/seduction31/12/21 07:13 AM
11

Was broken up with by a woman I was confident I would be with forever out of the blue after 5+ years, a rejection doesn’t hurt at all compared to that, it’s a drop in an ocean by comparison… so you’ve got nothing to fear about a rejection.
/r/seduction31/12/21 07:08 AM
2

What’s your end goal here? What do you think this will accomplish?
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:12 PM
0

So then do you know know what the expression boils down to means? Are you daft enough to think I didn’t realize beards were real and filters were digital, they both boil down to(than means are essentially or are summarily) changing your base appearance despite one being physical and the other not.
/r/seduction29/12/21 03:37 PM
-1

Which was replying to my comment that was replying to what OP said about a bunch of other things both sexes use, which I listed in caps because you seem to have missed it, try to follow along buddy. Sure beards continue in real life, but they still follow along with what I was saying about how they are something people of both sexes will manipulate to make them appear more attractive.
/r/seduction29/12/21 07:53 AM
1

Also OP literally lists both filters and Make Up… and I light adjust contrast, brightness, saturation on my photos for insta and then use them on dating apps… it’s not a filter, but it’s also the magic of a editing a digital product.
/r/seduction29/12/21 07:43 AM
0

Did you not read the post? OP clearly lists “filters, MAKE UP, LIGHTING, ANGLES…” those are all real life, hence why I also listed real life things but also ones guys use.
/r/seduction29/12/21 07:41 AM
-4

It’s not literally the same obviously, that’s clear to everyone I should hope, but it is the same idea, it boils down to changing your appearance to attract a mate.
/r/seduction29/12/21 06:00 AM
13

Wait you expected him to tell you how he walked? It’s not like he hid it from you, he literally did it in front of you.
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:09 AM
-7

Beards and older photos = make up and filters
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:06 AM
38

Wait until you find out about make up, corsets, buttlifting pants, perfume, and everything else they use. But I’ve even gathered intel that some men on here may be doing it as well with their profiles, grooming themselves with razors and hair gel, using beards to have stronger jaw lines, and wearing cologne.
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:05 AM
6

Well part of what I would say is “confidently” and your last paragraph screams the opposite of that, I was was merely trying to point you in a more holistic direction rather than trying to bandage one symptom of it.
/r/seduction28/12/21 10:59 PM
2

This is way above Reddit’s pay grade, we aren’t liscensed psychologists chiming in on here in all likelihood and they wouldn’t be able to give you that answer from what you’ve provided.
/r/seduction28/12/21 09:01 PM
-2

Your last sentence says otherwise, no shaming going on, but that seems like a much more pressing issue than when to touch the back or not and by mitigating those feelings, the rest should fall into place better. Are you speaking with anyone professionally about those feelings? I’m hoping that could help more.
/r/seduction28/12/21 08:59 PM
1

It completely invalidates what you said, you were categorically wrong about them.
/r/seduction28/12/21 03:32 PM
2

Well, that explains it. You can’t create excitement, sexual tension, or desire with logic. Going to have to learn that other side if you want to connect with people who rely on emotion far more than you.
/r/seduction28/12/21 03:18 PM
2

I really don’t think it’s that rare, but it’s hard if not impossible to compare it across person to person. Well that could mean you’re not communicating with them on an emotional enough level of connecting with them in an emotionally charged way, could just be too logical when conversing or something. But I don’t think spark = physical attraction at all, spark is excitement, sexual tension, desire, all these things can be created without any physical appearance every being part of it like onlin…
/r/seduction28/12/21 01:19 AM
1

I’m not making the claim so I’m not collecting the data… but you literally have first hand experience with that. Also attraction isn’t really black and white(as in bianary) it’s a sliding scale that has so many other influences besides outwards appearance, I’ve met physically gorgeous women who had horrible personalities and it made them very unattractive… the opposite must obviously be possible. The fact that they’re agreeing to date you means you’re attractive despite some saying they weren’t …
/r/seduction27/12/21 10:56 PM
3

You think a night club and a bar are the same thing? Lol
/r/seduction27/12/21 05:01 PM
5

Well Op did not list “Bars” as where they did not want to meet women, maybe make your own post about that if you don’t want others to mention it?
/r/seduction27/12/21 04:45 PM
5

Ok, but did you ask a similar sample size how many they find attractive for other all reasons? Your experiment totally ignores all other forms of attraction. I mean some guys punch way above their weight and date women in a much higher “league” because they’re funny, smart, charming, successful, confident, but not physically attractive, your experiment completely ignores all that.
/r/seduction27/12/21 04:03 PM
5

That’s not what I meant, the more experience you have the more experience you get. It’s exponential but it has to start at none… Everyone would be virgins if it didn’t work like that. Experience is the best teacher, I mean you can’t think inexperience can teach you to do something right?
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:24 AM
1

I’ve asked a girl I matched up with same day to an event because I mentioned my buddy bailed and I had two tickets, we vibes well, but it was super lucky but the time limit isn’t as big of an issue as if she likes the band/dj a lot and her attitude on it all, I could’ve easily been flaked on. Best to do a bar or coffee date, gage compatibility and interest, bring up the artists and if she’s into it it’s a fine time to ask, if she has no idea maybe wait a bit to ask and see if the rapport is stil…
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:17 AM
3

Absolutely, why do you think they say experience is the best teacher.
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:11 AM
1

Just like men, sometimes they know, sometimes they don’t, either way they’re u see no obligation to actually tell you and are in all likelyhood doing you or the person they’re talking to a favor by not being inexcusably rude.
/r/seduction27/12/21 06:28 AM
3

I think the word physically doesn’t belong here, it could be they are physically but aren’t emotionally or any other red flag… they aren’t attracted to you is more accurate.
/r/seduction27/12/21 06:27 AM
1

It’s a tool for sure, it’s not the only tool, but it can be used to your benefit or cause issues depending on what’s on it.
/r/seduction27/12/21 05:17 AM
1

I guess I didn’t catch that you were a very good bowler, that makes some difference. It’s not mansplaining when you have a rediscussed credibility or if she asks you to show you some tips etc. I’m a way above average surfer and taught it for 15 years and coached higher level surfing a bit too, when I’ve done surf lesson dates it wasn’t mansplaining but I know to be careful doing coaching with women who do already surf, I don’t say shit about their form unless asked. Also tips on feeling relaxed …
/r/seduction27/12/21 12:35 AM
4

You think women go with the best looking guy in shared hobbies or social circles? Oof maybe if your circle has 1 woman and a bunch of guys but if there’s a more even ratio that wouldn’t matter. I’m not the best looking guy in my friend group but I’m funny, confident, and treat them like people, I do well enough for myself.
/r/seduction26/12/21 09:35 PM
16

It’s objectively where single people go to drink and meet other singles with the expectation of being hit on. Dive bars are very much not over priced and it’s the correct atmosphere, much easier to pull from a bar than almost any other scenario not listed by OP.
/r/seduction26/12/21 09:32 PM
2

3 second rule is up, you gotta just shoot your shot or try again next week. If you find her on fb she will be so fucking creeped out if you say how you did it and you’ll be blocked and on her guys to run far away from list.
/r/seduction26/12/21 03:36 PM
4

I wouldn’t give her unsolicited advice about form, you never know if other men have mansplained her gym form or whatever else… not just in bowling but with whatever. Otherwise solid advice/date idea.
/r/seduction26/12/21 08:50 AM
1

Yeah, I couldn’t agree more, clearly this hit a nerve with a lot of insecure guys.
/r/seduction26/12/21 12:14 AM
-2

Are you unfamiliar with sarcasm, she could’ve said that sarcastically and giggled at the thought of a bad experience, she’s chosen OP. We don’t have the context.
/r/seduction26/12/21 12:13 AM
13

Yeah but it could also be sarcasm where she’s giggling about bad experiences, it’s all context none of us have.
/r/seduction26/12/21 12:09 AM
44

She could’ve giggled out of a nervous reflex or have been being sarcastic as she thinks this is better as well… there’s so much context missing without her side of the story.
/r/seduction25/12/21 11:55 PM
6

It’s one of the top posts on this sub just reposted here again.
/r/seduction25/12/21 08:13 PM
3

Shit I ain’t cho man
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:00 AM
1

Ok, but it sounded like you might the “u there” sometimes, there is no purpose of that and can come across as needy. It’s one to let a conversation die out and then bring it back up a few days later with a “I just had an awesome idea, you like “this thing” and I just so happen to be doing it friday, would you like to join me for it…” or whatever call to action. See how that has more of a purpose? I also don’t think most women use the apps to laugh at men, at least I haven’t gotten that vibe from…
/r/seduction24/12/21 08:59 PM
1

It’s always ok to stop talking. But is there a purpose behind your messages? Like are you just messaging to see if they are present, or to get to know them, or to arrange meeting up. If you’re just texting to text and converse with someone you met online that can get boring especially if the other party has 15 other people conversing and some with much more interesting conversations/better chemistry/more flirty sexual tension…
/r/seduction24/12/21 07:39 PM
5

Ok I’ll help you by being honest. You’re not very good at helping people from what I’ve seen in this post, you just come off as rude in your comment.
/r/seduction24/12/21 05:15 PM
5

Well you don’t seem to know what the goal of this sub is; it’s to help with seduction, not shit on people for not knowing about it. It’s in the bio ffs and if this isn’t a rule # 4 break idk what is.
/r/seduction24/12/21 01:07 PM
4

I used to fear it a lot, after having 2 different 5 years relationships end, someone I don’t know or barely have known rejecting me doesn’t mean shit in comparison to that feeling of a long term ending.
/r/seduction23/12/21 04:58 PM
3

Have dated 3 women I knew as friends for 5+ years each before we hooked up. I do not believe in the "Friend Zone" I believe in the "not interested in dating fr various reasons but still be their friend zone" some women have and that guy is in it.
/r/seduction22/12/21 08:04 AM
0

“Let’s keep playing” = the desperation i’m talking about. I’m good.
/r/seduction18/12/21 07:24 PM
0

Do you actually think you triggered me? You just seem desperate for attention whether it’s shouting about things you haven’t done or don’t have.
/r/seduction18/12/21 04:42 PM
1

The reason someone gives and the actual reason can be very different things. You know that right?
/r/seduction18/12/21 10:28 AM
0

And this is the most insecure comment I’ve ever read. Also it’s nickname. Knicks are a basketball team.
/r/seduction18/12/21 10:27 AM
0

Cool I have a big dick too but anybody who just brings that up probably doesn’t. That’s little dick energy.
/r/seduction17/12/21 11:16 PM
0

All those things you do don’t have to do with keeping rhythm, except maybe a speed bag, nunchucks and capoeira but is I if those things count. Women need a steady and controlled rhythm to achieve orgasm. It sounds like you’re just pounding away and causing them pain, that’s not really the same as being good at sex for them even though it might be good for you.
/r/seduction17/12/21 05:46 PM
11

"Im fawning over you" would be good to slip in later into the convo, but you 100% won't be the first guy that makes a deer pun with her.
/r/seduction16/12/21 09:56 PM
2

Without one, this realization never could’ve happened, and she can wingman for him too. I had a really hot friend in college who set me up with a few girls, they’re a super powerful ally.
/r/seduction16/12/21 02:02 AM
5

Haha I’ve had girl friends set me up with a bunch of girls, youre shooting yourself in the foot with this mentality. Women make the best wingmen by fucking far. Women see that you have female friends or women in your life and they want a piece of the action, they see you’re worth being around.
/r/seduction16/12/21 02:01 AM
10

You can still have good posture but be animated, dancing for example shows off physical qualities, ability to keep rhythm etc, that translates to better sex capabilities.
/r/seduction16/12/21 01:55 AM
19

*white Calvin Klein’s ftfy
/r/seduction16/12/21 01:00 AM
1

Good bot
/r/seduction16/12/21 12:45 AM
3

Look at it this way, you’re eliminating matches that won’t work out in the long run anyways. I think I’m above average on many ways and I still take a lot of also for every W. No one bats 100% unless they’re made like chris hemsworth going for 1/10s… it just doesn’t happen. I’ve had a very long term relationship end recently, I try to look at a rejection by comparison is 1/10000th of the heartbreak that caused and it makes it much easier to move on. The less attached or less of a pedestal you pu…
/r/seduction15/12/21 08:34 PM
3

Here are two scenarios, it’s not formatting well cuz mobile but: him: “we’re never going to work out” Her(Monica): “why” Him: “Monica was the name of my my elementary school rival, she beat me in thumb wrestling and I got bullied for it, we have to thumb wrestle so I can reclaim my honor” Or what ever emotionally stimulating yet playful challenge will put her through a wave of emotions while not actually hurting her. This is vs Him: “we’re perfect for eachother” Her: “why?” Him: “because you’re …
/r/seduction14/12/21 11:19 PM
1

Yes, it is not appropriate in the seduction stage. In your wedding vows it is expected.
/r/seduction14/12/21 07:22 PM
2

Damn this last line is a great insight. It sounds like a lot of love songs steered us wrong, I feel like this is a classic love song theme but it’s probably not that true in a practical sense. Maybe if you’re some rock and roll heartthrob it’s sexy but not if you’re Steve from accounting.
/r/seduction14/12/21 06:16 PM
1

Everyone has baggage or damage, it’s not specific to women.
/r/seduction14/12/21 06:11 PM
12

They’re not emotionally challenging or exciting in comparison. I know this doesn’t sound logical but it definitely makes emotional sense.
/r/seduction14/12/21 05:09 PM
3

And I’m a marketing major so I took a lot of comm and psych based stuff and you’re spot on with it. Use the same type of communication and you’ll get better results… know your audience as they say.
/r/seduction14/12/21 12:52 AM
3

Hard disagree, I don’t think you should with every person you’re interested in but I’ve noticed more engagement from women who use emojis often when I use them back but women who don’t use them I don’t know if there’s a difference. I’m 31 and women younger than me tend to use them more and older use them less in my experience because I’m on the cusp of people that grew up with them and those that only used them from like 13+ years old and on.
/r/seduction13/12/21 09:47 PM
1

I mean I was only one girl, I was looking for a relationship at that time and that showed me she probably was not mature enough at the time. I have not said I only want hook ups. I have also turned down sex from girls I just thought we’re kinda dumb or annoying but clearly down. It’s not a numbers game for me I’d rather have it with people I have a deeper bond with, stranger sex just has never been as good for me personally. Not saying I don’t have it, but I can pass it up if the vibe is off and…
/r/seduction13/12/21 06:10 PM
1

IM PICKLE RIIIIIIICK
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:32 PM
5

Have you ever asked? I’ve had almost every girl say yes and the only one that didn’t later realized she fucked up and asked me multiple times to kiss her… I asked, she said no because it’s not romantic, I said consent is and boundaries are important, she said damn I never have had that, and I said have all the men in your life respected your boundaries and she said no many hadn’t, I said maybe you should go for guys that do, she said “ok can you kiss me” and I said no I don’t think you’re on the…
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:27 PM
1

Very powerful 9/10
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:19 PM
2

It’s Christmas, I’ve had the Yule log work for me a few times lol, I also think there’s something subconscious about a fire being put on that women love, like you can provide warmth or shelter. Idk jury’s still out.
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:17 PM
13

“Ok, but not yet” drives them wild
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:11 PM
4

I say I just worked out my back, because I usually have(posture and back PT) and ask her to get the spot in the middle I can’t reach. This allows me to nonchalantly say alright your turn and then start giving her one. You can offer lotion after a while which comes with the implication of shirt/top off and flows into to what’s your come after nicely. This is all post make out so she’s obviously not just there to hang out and listen to music or whatever.
/r/seduction13/12/21 05:09 PM
1

You might think you aren’t but to him you might seem that way, it’s not about your perspective on what he sees it’s about what his perspective is.
/r/seduction13/12/21 06:32 AM
2

Fuck this would’ve helped me so much when I was younger, even a flirty “I just hope you make a move tonight” from this girl would get her what she wants, I mean if she likes him I don’t see why she has to wait for flirting to come from him first but then again love is complicated like that when it doesn’t need to be.
/r/seduction13/12/21 06:30 AM
2

A 1 year, a 2 year, a nearly 5 year, a just over 5 year. 13 years of 4 serious relationships. The one year while not long was still serious until she had to move to a place much colder than where I would ever live but I wasn’t going to hold someone back from doing what they wanted, if we had the same city in mind I could’ve seen it lasting much longer.
/r/seduction12/12/21 06:15 PM
9

While I sometimes agree and maybe would in this case, I’ve revamped a few situations like this. Once it turned into a 5+ year relationship and one currently I revamped last week I’m now hooking up with, so idk if this is always the best course of action anecdotally.
/r/seduction12/12/21 05:40 PM
30

You do realize what the second half of the word girlFRIEND is right? I mean good luck having a relationship without being at least somewhat friendly. I’ve been in 13 years of 4 serious relationships in 31 years on this earth, trust me it’s not going to work if you’re not at all friends.
/r/seduction12/12/21 08:50 AM
2

Yup, that’s my experience as well.
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:31 AM
5

Never failed to have a woman tell you she came* Remember you can’t confirm it actually happened. I’ve been with two women that didn’t like the feeling of this move and they didn’t masturbate with their fingers inside themselves at all because it just felt to weird to them, the preferred the real thing or only clitoral… it’s a good move but it’s not universal(which it sounds like later on you understand)
/r/seduction12/12/21 01:33 AM
1

I think being too nice gets you friend zones and being too boring gets you “I don’t have fun with them so I don’t want to hang with them” zoned, I think they’re maybe not exciting, but there’s a lot inbetween boring and exciting, it’s not one or the other.
/r/seduction11/12/21 03:52 AM
7

You think the reason they cheat is because they work to much? I guarantee there are so many deeper reasons behind it that “he works too much” is like the last factor. They cheat because of a lack of emotional connection, involvement, resentment(maybe from work, but probably from a bunch of other things), I think blaming just work is super inaccurate.
/r/seduction11/12/21 03:50 AM
1

Woah I totally commented this on the post before this one, idk why it went on this one
/r/seduction10/12/21 11:29 PM
1

You had me heavily disagreeing in the first half, well played. But now that I’m thinking about it because the one women that might agree is probably just fucking anything and everything it could also be a 100% chance.
/r/seduction10/12/21 07:46 PM
30

Ah good to know, yeah man, she probably liked you. I’d approach her next time you see her if you’re into it, she might be feeling a bit rejected and embarrassed it was in front of her friends that likely knew she had a crush on you.
/r/seduction09/12/21 10:44 PM
14

Unless it was like a sorority hazing thing, but those normally have them ask you very uncomfortable questions, this doesn’t sound like that tho.
/r/seduction09/12/21 07:06 PM
11

I just became single at 31 after 5.5 years, I thought it was going to be way worse than before I was better. Turns out I’m a lot more confident, mature, and have been doing pretty well compared to when I was mid or early twenties. Then again I’ve worked on myself a lot and have been trying to learn all I can.
/r/seduction09/12/21 02:26 AM
1

Preach
/r/seduction08/12/21 10:43 PM
3

If she’s still texting, it’s not over over, but my god man she’s practically begging for it.
/r/seduction07/12/21 05:23 PM
2

Bro looking back on high school and college perfectly describes how I was too, girls could be in my bed touching me and I’d question if they were into it, god I was a daft cunt.
/r/seduction07/12/21 05:22 PM
3

I think the staying up til 7am caressing you was the huge green light not the having to go to hers. Does seem like you’re the one denying her, if I were looking at it from her perspective. She came over, initiates touch, etc. I don’t know if you’ve totally missed the opportunity but next time you’re with here I’d get out of your head and make that move because idk if there’s another chance after that.
/r/seduction07/12/21 05:20 PM
1

But do you think that “get your dick in me” is created by simple by not asking or is it created before? I think it’s there before, I think I know how to create it fairly well(I’m by no means a master at this), but if I ask that question there’s only been one circumstance where it was a “no” but then it was a yes and her asking for another chance at me…. and the question doesn’t change that, but maybe it does and my experience is just a weird anecdote. You’re spot on with the take control thing, …
/r/seduction07/12/21 08:22 AM
4

Idk I’ve only once had the “I really want to kiss you, would that be alright?” Fail once, the girl was a few years younger than me 26 to 22 and she said it wasn’t romantic and I said kissing someone who might not want to be kissed isn’t either, I thought you would… we talked a bit longer and she asked me to kiss her and I said I’m not sure we’re on the same maturity level I’m sorry, she even called me a few weeks later asking for another date but I was with someone by then. Point is it can defin…
/r/seduction07/12/21 05:49 AM
7

You’re being so contrarian and pushy to this person trying to help you out, start by working on that. I don’t mean to keyboard psychiatrist you but if you don’t know what read the room means in this context you’ve got to research how to do it if you don’t naturally know.
/r/seduction07/12/21 05:41 AM
22

I’ve never once given a fuck if a guy was single or in a relationship. I’m a straight male and I’ve been in long term relationships but am currently single. You’re spot on no one but maybe your family cares.
/r/seduction06/12/21 09:11 PM
0

Right, I just don’t think that’s what “leaving on read” is, nor do I think you should always refuse to reengage out of pride, these are all just opinions my man.
/r/seduction06/12/21 06:34 PM
2

Yeah you don’t want to seem desperate or needy by begging it forward, but sometimes restarting a conversation even if you end up getting left on read when you were already kinda left on read isn’t a bad idea, it’s a small chance it works but it can be the difference between further interaction and none, literally just had this happen last night and what was me left on read has led to hanging out.
/r/seduction06/12/21 06:10 PM
-1

Sounds like you’re saying let a conversation end when it has run it’s course, left on read is more like “hey what are you eating for dinner?” And you just leave it on read. At least that’s how I interpret left on read. Like if I say “good night” and so does she, I’m not leaving her on read by not saying “sweet dream” or whatever.
/r/seduction06/12/21 06:05 PM
2

For sure, there’s a lot of posts on this topic in that sub may be good to search them rather than repost as it will likely get removed. I’ve seen this same story at least 10 times on there, it’s a tale as old as time.
/r/seduction06/12/21 06:28 AM
11

r/sex is the right subreddit for it, but from your other comments it sounds like Death Grip Syndrome where you squeeze so tightly that a vagina could never match the feeling. A few common suggestions are lube, no porn(imagination), taking breaks for a few days in between(so that it’s easier when you do maturbate/have sex) or at least a few days before you meet up with her, a sex toy like a head honcho or flesh light, and make sure she knows it’s not her, she likely is feeling self conscious, mak…
/r/seduction06/12/21 06:22 AM
2

Or her and her best friend got in a huge fight or her roommate is causing drama or her parents might be splitting up and she has to deal with that but doesn’t want to tell you because she doesn’t know you well enough. It’s not always another guy. People have things come up in their lives that might make them look bad and they will be vague about. You’re and we are doing a lot of speculating without any way to actually confirm. You could always ask if everything’s alright and maybe get some conte…
/r/seduction05/12/21 07:52 PM
1

For certain, appearing thirsty is the worst way to get a drink.
/r/seduction05/12/21 12:12 AM
6

I think trying not to expect any outcome would help reduce it. Just strike up a friendly conversation without any intent of it going anywhere, eventually one will go somewhere once you’re more calm and collected.
/r/seduction04/12/21 07:04 PM
4

You planted a seed, maybe when she has some free time it can grow.
/r/seduction03/12/21 06:23 PM
4

The sun is still in the sky when it’s cloudy. They’re saying if you seem desperate you’ll get rejected not if you don’t seem desperate every single Erwin will not reject you.
/r/seduction29/11/21 02:13 AM
12

Conversation eye contact and pre conversation eye contact and a smile are different. Wouldn’t really compare them.
/r/seduction26/11/21 03:01 PM
6

How many dates has it been? If it’s been a few you could always make a date of let grab dinner in the next city over and stay in an air bnb there. Like a nearby staycation. First date or first few it probably wouldn’t fly unless sleeping over has been discussed but not possible.
/r/seduction25/11/21 07:44 AM
1

I like the “virtuous reputation on campus” part because you’ll never see 99.9% of those people ever again once you graduate.
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:32 AM
4

I disagree, the answer to a question unasked is always no. Could easily turn it around with a Hey I found you on here and wanted to say I really enjoyed speaking to you. Would you like to continue our conversation sometime? Or something like that could easily turn it around or get ignored point is it’s not over until you quit or they tell you to quit.
/r/seduction24/11/21 02:25 AM
1

Well the cooking for them part certainly is.
/r/seduction24/11/21 01:47 AM
2

The answer to a question unasked is always no. They’re just people too, no bead to put them on a pedestal. They can sense when you want something so go into it not expecting anything and you honestly can’t lose, once you get used to it then you can start asking for things, baby steps and break it down each step until you’re comfortable.
/r/seduction23/11/21 07:38 AM
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