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I 100% agree women have an easier time finding men who are willing to date them. Men have a harder time finding women willing to date them. I think what you are noticing is that women get annoyed when you generalize this as proof that dating is easy for women, since you are ignoring all the hardships that mostly affect women. There is more to life than the endeavor of finding a date. Women are more likely to be murdered on a first date, more likely to face judgement for dating/hooking up with ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:26 PM
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no it shows women hold one card, want only one card, and would also like their partner to also hold one card.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:41 AM
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The " if you shame women (not men)" thing meant "If you shame women but you dont shame men with high body counts...."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:30 AM
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then I wasn't talking about you, hence "if you shame women (not men) with high body counts..."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:35 PM
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And women are the ones who don't seem to care about men's n-count. In fact, if anything, they see it as a mark of status. i promise you there is no one on the planet who gives a bigger shit about a man's body count than another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:30 AM
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A.woman that allows lots.of men to fuck her is great for ons but not wife material. All laws rape etc are protecting this. huh??? The brain washing is real. dude we're brain washed? no one should "shame" anyone out of instinct, especially after sleeping with them. why would you sleep someone you openly shame? just another example of how low your standards are If you don't want to marry a woman who has a lot of one night stands, great, you're entitled to your opinion. but you talk about men and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:28 AM
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first of all, i wasn't saying the biological argument as a justification for why men don't like slutty women. i was saying it was the justification for men not liking slutty women WHILE ALSO praising/aspiring to be slutty men. also, i didn't think this was the worst argument, i actually thought it was the only valid one (again, read closely). I'm not going to say you're not allowed to want a low body count woman, because I also want to find a low body count man. the difference is that I myself h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:12 AM
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did you read the post...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:47 AM
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men across the board should start choosing their partners more wisely. obviously it's a free country, but if you asked me i would say if men and women matched libidos there would be no redpill/bluepill, everyone would date within their league and that's mathematically a fact because dating is 1:1 disregarding divorce/death. and when things are 1:1, they equalize. casual sex is different, there are too many men fighting over few women (or maybe a sizeable, but not huge, portion of women who don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:47 AM
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i can't tell if you're trying to argue with me... i don't think we should shame anyone for a high body count. and both men and women should have standards, and not just about physical appearance. i'm sorry but "wired to spread their seed" is another way to say "want sex more" and there's absolutely evidence to support that this is true generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:41 AM
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what? you’re joking right? even the most conservative economists argue for a flat tax rate which is still progressive. anyways, you know what else basic economic logic argues? that a shortage happens when there is a high demand and not enough supply. you know who faces a shortage of sexual partners? men. it would follow then that men are demanding sex more than there are women to supply it. just because virgins can’t get the few slutty women to sleep with them doesn’t make them any less of a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:28 AM
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i wasn’t offended he compared us as “currency” lmao why would that bother me? i was pointing out that the fact he shouldn’t see ALL women as currency that is basically implying he has no standards because nearly all women for him are good enough to have sex with. it shouldn’t be like that, men are too easy. imagine if i compared sex with men to money— you’d think i’m really fucking weird, what woman would value sex with 80% of men so highly she’d compre her lack of sex to being poor? edit: also …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:18 AM
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because i don’t use sex to reward men, it’s really weird you would even think about it that way. i have sex to reward myself just as you would. also if you think the beta is losing here i don’t know what to tell you because the value you place on sex is too high for us to ever find a middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:31 AM
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you really destroyed my argument there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:45 AM
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because one has a shitty personality and his only good quality is being attractive, and the other one has potential to be a long term partner. we’re not trying to just “have fun” when we meet this guy, we’re serious about it and we don’t want to have sex with a guy who we like just for him to only be looking for sex. we also know men tend to think less of us if we do sleep with them and if this guy is dating material we don’t want him to have that opinion of us from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:44 AM
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no one has a harder time with monogamy than men do, they basically settle for it so that they can get frequent sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:53 PM
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i didn’t even say the double standard was unfair and i agree with the biological assertions made to justify the double standard so i think the lack of precision is on your end buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:25 PM
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you didn’t even read the post did you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:12 PM
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they don’t understand math
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:12 PM
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not as frequently that would be mathematically impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:10 PM
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your assertion that most of them had a sex drive that could have outmatched men is incorrect as proved by biology and also by logical reasoning-- if women and men had the same desire for casual sex and thus the same sex drive, and following that both genders would ideally try to choose the most sexually attractive partner for casual sex that they could find, then people would end up with sexual sex partners around the same sexual attractiveness as them. in other words, the 5/10 women would not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:46 AM
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yeah it's so fucked up that i have a higher sex drive than my 30 year old girlfriend grrr
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:38 AM
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generally speaking (and i dont know about the exact proportion) yeah in the casual sex world it does. but only because men let it. if a top 20% man fucks a 3/10 woman, that's because there weren't enough top 20% women for him to fuck as frequently as he wanted to. it follows basic economics logic as per the rational choice theory and the idea that scarce resources have a higher price (and in this case, women are the scarce resource and the top 20% men can't afford the top 20% women, so they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:36 AM
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no. i didn't say shaming women for high body counts is the reason they fuck the top 20%. i said if you shame women with high body counts and not men with high body counts, and that your justification for the double standard is that women are supposed to select only a few men to sleep with because of biology, while men are supposed to want as much sex with as many women as possible, you are justifying hypergamy right there. so you're a hypocrite, because you whine about women for having higher st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:29 AM
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it doesn't matter how much casual sex you have, you can ask for monogamy in a relationship if you want. if you are set on polyamory you have no obligation to say yes to her. the fact that women are the ones who voluntarily choose monogamy while men settle for it tells you all you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:19 AM
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hypergamy only exists because men at the top lower their standards so much that they allow it to exist. if everyone just fucked people around their league, no one would be sexless. but because men at the top can't find women to have sex with him as frequently as he would like, he has to settle for less attractive women. that what you call "hypergamy"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:47 AM
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then you get to be indifferent about the 20/80 rule too if you want to be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:45 AM
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"If society as a whole started slut shaming women again then more men would have sex in the form of committed relationships." basically means "If society as a whole started slut shaming women again then less men would be slutty"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:44 AM
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all men would cheat if put in a bad situation? if their sex drive isn't that high though, wouldn't it not be enough of an incentive for them to risk it? i don't know if i want to put all my chances on a guy who just avoids bad situations because what if the situation comes to him? i dont know how affairs starts :/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:42 AM
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women don't like casual sex as much, but those who do decide to have casual sex (which is usually every once in a while) will use the same standard to choose as men do-- the most attractive guy. when they're looking for a relationship, their standards change. also if you are saying that 10 women get lower counts because they all have sex with Mr. Right, Mr. Right has the same body count as all of them COMBINED.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:38 AM
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the difference is women who have low body counts do it by choice, men who have low body counts do it because women don't want to sleep with them. that virgin may have a low body count but he's still going to be on tinder 24/7 trying to have a high one. that's my entire point, they can't get laid BECAUSE men have such a high demand for casual sex that there is a shortage of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:36 AM
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yes traditionalists shame both but i'm talking about the majority of the population and most of the red pillers on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:32 AM
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sex is easy for almost all women, even those with low body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:32 AM
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imagine implying that casual sex from 80% of the female population is valuable without exception, like currency. Again, the male population does not have any standards when it comes to casual sex-- and if they did, there would be no 20/80 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:31 AM
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didn't say they cared about all of that attention, but i'm also not the one who preaches the 20/80 rule-- red pillers do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:20 AM
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well baby daddy was a wife beater so of course i’m not too fond of him. ironically i always had a pretty rosy view of male nature until my first long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:16 PM
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just because i was raised by all women i have a low view of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:29 AM
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can you please share your epiphany with the red pillers on this sub and enlighten them haha. i've definitely had those realizations myself though, so I understand what you mean. Do you really want a low sex drive guy? I'm betting you would rather have a man that burns with desire for you... that can't wait to put his hands all over you, and looks at you like you are the only woman in the world. yeah, i do prefer that. my sex drive isn't necessarily low, in fact it tends to match that of the man …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:12 AM
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I agree on the fact that society considers women's safety more important than that of men. I'm going to give you 3 reasons for this (not justifications, explanations). Biologically, women are smaller, have a harder time protecting themselves, defending themselves. when faced with fight or flight, women are weaker and slower, on average, than are men. Humans are social creatures. we have so many instincts within us that are designed to help us survive by helping each other. this includes the love…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:47 AM
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most men refuse to date a woman over x pounds. it's not outrageous to say "i wouldn't date a woman with xyz physical feature". most men wouldn't date someone they found unattractive. many women consider shortness to be unattractive enough to make the guy overall unattractive. just like men consider fatness to be unattractive enough to make the woman overall unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:02 AM
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your honesty is refreshing, men usually get defensive when i bring this up. i do hope i find a guy like that, i was thinking maybe men who have lower sex drives are like this? but i could be wrong. i just figure the desire for having multiple sex partners might be due to a high desire for sex in general? i don’t know. i know there’s definitely some men out there like this, ideally it wouldn’t be purely due to religion because i am not religious myself, but if that’s where most of them are then t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:16 PM
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generally speaking it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:10 PM
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yeah i never claimed otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:47 PM
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okay i’m not understanding your point though, that applies to all humans regardless of gender— we all get uglier as we age and peak in our 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:18 AM
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funny coming from the gender who can't make their partners cum. If you can't get a girl who's good at sex just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:48 AM
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no it says a lot about how pornsick you are if you think porn is better than sex with your significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:17 AM
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i mean, if your response is that i should try casual sex with men before i dismiss the idea, it doesn't pass the cost-benefit analysis. considering i don't find it very exciting and would rather focus on finding a partner, it's not worth the risk of STD's and murder/rape. This is how classical feminine sexuality works. Who in their right mind could complain about it? I'll tell you who complains about this -- me. i can't find a man in the world who aspires to that level of monogamy, who doesn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 01:20 AM
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yes, i am with you on that., what you mentioned about the pendulum being swung too far, that's exactly my opinion on feminism today, and a great example of this is sex workers and promiscuity. modern day feminism has gone from "sex workers are scum and will go to hell, and porn is evil, and a real lady wouldn't engage in casual sex", to "prostitution is just as much of a respectable career as any other! porn is great! casual sex is empowering!". I think the fact that modern feminism has normaliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 12:00 AM
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How do you know that you don't like sex with strangers if you have never tried it? how does a straight man know he's not gay if he's never tried it? you just know. i don't have the urge to have sex if there's no one i want to have sex with, and when i'm in a relationship, my partner is the only person i want to have sex with. when i'm single, there's no partner, there's no one i want to have sex with. What men in particular are going to call you shallow for not sleeping around? the men who insis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:35 PM
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damn it seems like you got this whole thing figured out good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:32 PM
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you red pillers and your “money and status” bs. i’m pretty sure 35 year old men make about the same as 50 year old men, so why don’t older women prefer them? 35 year olds make more than 22 year olds, why don’t 20 year old women prefer them? i make more than the average man so i don’t need anyone’s money, but i still would never in a million years fuck a man 4 years younger than me, that’s gross. and i assume that’s the way even older women see it. but for men, fucking a girl the age of their dau…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:43 PM
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by following our original logic this would tend to be true, yeah. and why is this triggering to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:46 PM
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Maturity in terms of age is a negative factor in terms of sexual attractiveness for most women after around late 20s and this is directly tied to fertility and physical attractiveness. yeah this is quite literally a universal experience for humans not just women because of their fertility. men lose their hair, get wrinkly, dad bods, etc. men's attractiveness peaks in their mid 20s too. this is backed up by psychological research and isn't really up for debate. the thing is that even though older…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:44 PM
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interesting, i never thought about that but it's pretty obvious in retrospect. also women aren't fertile for near life the way men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:35 PM
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I’d rather be single than marry someone who wasn’t beautiful in my eyes. I tried that once this is unrelated to my argument-- i'm just wondering though, do you realize that no matter how beautiful the woman you marry is, if you stay married forever, she'll eventually and inevitably become unattractive? that's what happens to everyone when they reach 80. what will you do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:33 PM
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i "don't want to change"? i don't need to change. why do i need to change? i don't engage in casual sex because i don't like having sex with strangers, and i am currently single because despite having many options of good-looking men (not just for casual sex but dating too), i can't find a guy whose personality i like. yet men will still call me shallow because i don't want to sleep with xyz person or because i'm picky about who i date, even though my pickiness is literally due to things complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:31 PM
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not a single criteria, and frankly my point wasn't who is more shallow (though yes i did touch on my opinion on that), my main argument was just that lowering your standards because you wouldn't get casual sex otherwise does not mean you're not shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:26 PM
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i don't see anything wrong with admitting that men are easy and women are harder to get in bed, it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:25 PM
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well yeah the link i sent you shows some of those options no? there’s more than just “listen and don’t compromise” in there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:16 PM
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from a sex point of view, 50 year old women would never want to have sex (or get turned on by the idea of having sex) with a 25 year old. i’m telling you this as someone who experiences this for men 5 years younger than me, it’s a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:16 PM
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wtf is your point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:23 PM
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right i forgot men are looking for a good sex toy not a good partner
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:22 PM
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they sampled many people not just a couple, so the probability of replicating these results if it weren’t apparent in the population is pretty low of course most men date around their age, most 20 year olds don’t want to date a 50 year old. plus, many married couples met when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:20 PM
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i care more about non physical characteristics of people when choosing a partner, so i’d prefer if they were the same. it’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:17 PM
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our age of course, why would we want to date someone who acts/is 25 when we’re 50? that’s gross, regardless of how physically attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:49 PM
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yep. i’m only in my mid 20s but if i see a photo of a clearly 18 year old guy, all potential attraction is gone. when i think of a man that much younger me, i imagine someone with the maturity of an 18 year old and it’s enough of a turnoff to ruin attraction for me. how a 50 year old man could be attracted someone half their age is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:47 PM
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the fact that as soon as most men become wealthy enough, they buy a relationship with a young girl tells you what you need to know— if more older men could, they would. read my edit which explains why wanting to date a 20 year old at the age of 50 is shallow so you don’t misunderstand me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:38 PM
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i think your definition of shallowness is wrong. i have choices and i choose none of them because i can’t find a man with a good enough personality. looks are not the issue, there are tons of very good looking guys i could date but i choose not to. so how am i shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:29 PM
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i don't see how the fact that they did not know the ages of the pictures being shown changes anything. a 50 year old knows whether he's looking at a photo of a 20 year old, 30 year old, 40 or 50 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:19 AM
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how is my definition unreasonable? if you don't care at all about personality, all your attraction is visual, you are shallow. if all your attraction is determined by personality and you don't care at all about physical appearance, you are not shallow. pretty simple to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:19 AM
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im assuming you're talking about how even in the primitive days where we were basically cavemen, women got to pick their "mate" and the men had to fight for them essentially?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:18 AM
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wanting an attractive partner isn't shallow. like i said, shallowness is dictated by how much appearance, as opposed to other qualities, are a determinant of your attraction. aging women are less visually attractive, yes. and regardless of your fertility argument, men are also less visually attractive as they age. trust me, all women think men are more attractive when they're fit, don't have wrinkles, and still have hair. there's psychological proof to back this up-- much like facial symmetry, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:12 AM
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wrong. if my dream car is a tesla but i have only ever owned hondas, you shouldn't assume i prefer hondas over teslas. i just can't afford teslas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:11 AM
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i gave you male participants' responses, what is sexist about that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:36 AM
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this is a debate sub. i don't have to prove I'M feminine, i do want to debate you on why your definition of femininity is wrong. make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:12 AM
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me too. i would have a much easier time if i could date women (i'm bi) but my family would disown me lmao so i've also been considering a life where i just stay single forever. i was actually looking for a subreddit for this but couldn't find one. i don't need sex to be happy and i will have a fulfilling career so it could work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:11 AM
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yeah but men say these things too so there is no point to be made. that's like if i said "dogs are more friendly than cats" and then i showed you videos of a bunch of dogs being mean. like, okay, that doesn't say anything about cats so it doesn't actually add to the discussion, not to mention it's anecdotal evidence. but yeah if your point was that mean dogs exist (some women hate men they aren't attracted to) then your point is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:04 AM
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men want casual sex more than women do. the reason women only have sex with "the top %" is BECAUSE there is a shortage of women. what happens when there is a shortage for a product? the price goes up. what is the price of sex? it's your sexual value. men face a higher price for sex relative to women. its that simple. those top % of men want sex more than the top % of women, that's why they end up having sex with not just the top % of women, but also women who are below their own attractiveness. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:02 AM
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not what i said at all. young human beings in general are more visually appealing, regardless of gender, there is psychology to back this up. so lets say we have 4 groups: young man, young woman, old man, old woman. the young groups are attractive but immature, old groups are unattractive but mature. keep in mind with maturity comes intelligence, wisdom, life experience, personality compatibility. older women prefer older men, despite them being less physically attractive than younger men. why? …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:52 AM
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from a biological standpoint, younger men are most visually appealing to women too. however, my point is that women are more likely to look beyond the visual and say, "well yes i prefer a man with a head of hair, but there's more to my attraction than that. i want a man who's mature and intelligent, not just a fuck toy". so they end up being most attracted to older men regardless. that's what makes them less shallow from this perspective. also, from a biological standpoint it makes perfect sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:39 AM
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EXACTLY. thank you. I'm close to being a volcel dog lover myself and it's not because i can't find physically attractive men who want to date me, it's because i can't find a man with a personality/set of values worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:47 AM
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okay, let me rephrase. most women don't hate people they're not sexually attracted to. good now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:43 AM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:42 AM
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glad i could enlighten
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:40 AM
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that's a cool example but we're talking about trends not individual experiences. i can link you pages of threads from reddit of men bashing fat women. what i attached was a survey with a large enough sample size to make statistical conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:20 AM
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Women hate short men, let's talk about shallow ffs. preferences aren't shallow. and women don't "hate" people they're not sexually attracted to, that's actually something men do. most men don't even want to be friends with a woman with whom there is no hope for sex or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:04 AM
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Go get some rest then? you're on a debate sub, buddy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:44 PM
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I don't even know where to start with this one. maybe the most obvious response to this is that men watch porn regardless of how much sex they get, whether they're in a relationship, whether they're a virgin, whether they are married. There is in fact a growing trend of men preferring porn over their girlfriend's sexual advances. Young women all fuck the same men, while leaving others out. This is just false, while more women than men have had causal sex before, less women are seeking casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:25 PM
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you said: Saying "I'm feminine as fuck" is such an incredibly masculine response." to which i replied: why because i said the word "fuck"? i thought femininity was just defined by you as women who complement men? and you are now implying that my response was: "such open aggression ", "she-dick, charge in head-on" and "swordfighting". yeah, makes total sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:12 PM
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why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:40 PM
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did you try looking this up on the FDS subreddit at all? this is what FDS encourages women to be, according to their handbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:32 PM
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women who men don't want to fuck are worthless to them, i thought we already knew this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:37 AM
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well we are on r/PurplePillDebate, are we not all here to argue..?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:18 AM
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reddit is mostly comprised of men, so maybe it's because most male reddit users don't think they need activism? and why is it bigotry that one activist group has less followers than another?
/r/MensRights28/03/21 04:17 AM
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this is the way i see it, there are two sides to what makes a woman "feminine"-- the biological/physical aspect, and the social aspect. on the physical side of things, i am definitely feminine looking and i would guess my estrogen levels are pretty "womanly", i fit the descriptions on this thread of a "physically feminine" woman, so there's that. the social aspect is where i think you're wrong. YOU WERE TRAINED TO HATE your feminine nature, and so you can never be as in love with it as a natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:56 AM
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yes and i'm sure men are allowed to follow and engage with that twitter account as well
/r/MensRights28/03/21 12:18 AM
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why because i said the word "fuck"? i thought femininity was just defined by you as women who complement men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:17 AM
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i mean, don't you find attraction in people that goes beyond just physical appearance? like, say, intelligence, humor, ambition...? even if the woman is "ugly" i don't see how you couldn't find an ugly woman who attracted you in other ways unless all you cared about was looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 11:16 PM
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how is that relevant and why are you asking me
/r/MensRights27/03/21 11:14 PM
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i don’t see it as bigotry just like i wouldn’t see a group that targets specifically male mental health as bigotry either
/r/MensRights27/03/21 09:33 PM
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the reason the twitter group is for females is because they make up they are a minority in the tech industry. it’s not that deep.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 09:13 PM
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this subreddit is for men and not for women, is there an issue with that too? you find issue with groups that focus on only one identity, yet you’re on a subreddit that focuses only on men’s issues.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 06:46 PM
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i don’t think it matters that your definition of feminine doesn’t align with ours. we’re the women right? the fact that the modern day woman doesn’t find fulfillment in being a housewife and SAHM doesn’t make them less feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:39 PM
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okay, most men won’t date a fat woman. or a bald woman. most older men won’t date a woman his own age if he can avoid it. does that not qualify as shallow under your own definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:36 AM
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okay, can i ask you what makes them shallow in your experience? like, what leads you to believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:29 AM
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your experiences don’t represent an entire population and believe so is narrow minded by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:25 AM
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you think every woman you’ve met is secretly shallow yet women are the narrow minded ones. okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:14 AM
2

ah there it is. don’t fake being pleasant, i would like to know you’re unpleasant from the time i meet you so i don’t get stuck with an unpleasant partner. that’s what i mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:00 AM
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i don’t have to prove anything to anyone, but men are my colleagues. they are the majority of my classmates in curved courses, they will be my coworkers with whom i have to compete to move up in my career. i will definitely be competing with them. and let’s be clear— i’m feminine as fuck :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 08:20 AM
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it doesn't change the fact that your personality and morals are both for enhancing your sociability with others in order to acquire social benefits yeah i'm aware of the evolutionary advantages of having good morals. like i said, even if we consider my morals to be purely for social advantages, they were not for the social advantage of having sex with men I'll tell you that for absolute-fucking-sure. you don't think much of people who improve their personality to get things from other people, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:25 AM
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ah, on second thought you're probably right. i forgot red pill men think having an attractive personality is just stuff like "be confident" and shit. i was thinking stuff like "do good deeds for strangers", and "be more socially aware", or even "be a caring partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:17 AM
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my morals are inherently part of my personality and that's what i care about most when evaluating a mans' (with maybe the exception of hobbies and humor which isn't what i was referring to when i said "bad personality"). i don't care if you think i chose my morals for survival, i still don't want to date a man with bad ones. that's my right sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:02 AM
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bad personality does not equal sexually unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:54 AM
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you're allowed to want sex, just as i am allowed to want a partner. when i look for a partner i care about a lot more than looks. i am allowed to avoid men whose sole motivation for having a good personality is to get laid. go get a prostitute if that's what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:54 AM
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i agree, if your motivation for having a good personality is sex, just continue having a bad one so i can keep avoiding all of you. ​ edit: i am talking about aspects of a person's personality that indicate ethics and morals, not the "be alpha" shit that red pillers always say is what women want (it's not)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:34 AM
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you could find the parts of her physical appearance that you like and compliment her on that... see when women fall in love with a man they feel attraction for them even they know they're objectively not considered attractive. i dont understand why this isn't an experience men share, it's pretty unfortunate. all women feel attraction for their husbands, even the ugly ones. They probably didn't when they first met them, but as they get closer the attraction develops. men i guess are more superfic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:15 AM
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you're right, men can make up for bad looks with other attributes like personality because women care about other things besides looks. On the other hand, women are primarily valued by looks from men. glad we both agree. but i would never let a man i am dating go on thinking i find him unattractive, that's heartbreaking. if I didn't have to lie to her about how I think she looks. you really have that much of an issue with complimenting your partner if you don't think she's that attractive? isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:30 AM
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im sure everyone wants that from their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:45 PM
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why can't you be friends with someone you're attracted to? we're not talking about being in love with them, we're talking about pure physical attraction right? also those are the same men who insist to their girlfriends that they don't want to fuck their female friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 07:35 AM
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attractive girls (like most people in general) tend to have good personalities, and seeing as only 10% of people have a mental illness, most of them are likely mentally healthy. gold diggers are rare because it's hard for most women to trade their romanticized fantasies of love and marriage for money. plus, unless you're looking for a dumb housewife, a woman with a good personality would be financially independent and educated enough to make a good living on her own-- and neither of these things…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:44 AM
1

date men then
/r/MensRights25/03/21 05:55 PM
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in regards to a friendship which is the platonic bond between two humans, women and men are equal for all intents and purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:54 PM
1

What's that supposed to mean!? That your gender is more moral? Well, i don't think so but that's another topic. relax buddy, you're not as big of a victim here as you'd like to think. no one has implied moral superiority of either gender (well, except you just now i guess). AFAIK Women don't usually "Penetrate" Men and yet forced penetration is the only criteria for Rape men can be penetrated by either the penis of another man or by a woman with an inanimate object. women can be convicted of rap…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 11:28 PM
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yeah women are pretty garbage huh? soooo hard to find a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:56 PM
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Most Murder victims are Men, I'm more likely to get Violently assualted and killed and yet I don't fear violence, why is that? yeah you're more likely to be violently assaulted and killed.... by other men. you're less likely to be raped than a woman and less likely to be killed than a woman is to be raped. that doesn't mean I'm afraid of every man out on the street. neither am i so what is your point. Well, women are not considered Rapists by law, only men are https://www.justice.gov/archives/op…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 04:32 PM
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maybe this 1% is the only relevant statistic to you if protecting the reputation of your gender is the only goal. but to me, the 1% seems off when a considerable proportion of women I've personally known (including immediate family) have been raped themselves, and not a single one of them convicted their rapist. i myself am only now pressing charges against my molester from when i was a child. if you want to raise awareness for the falsley accused, you should want to raise awareness for the rapi…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 12:18 PM
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Using science to say men are more likely to commit crime is no different from using science to say blacks are more likely to commit crimes. since when does science suggest black people are more likely to commit crimes? please show me where you got that from. it's nurture vs nature. a black man if raised in the exact same environment as a white man is no more likely to commit a crime. on the other hand, no matter what environment a man and a woman are from-- no matter what race the man and woman …
/r/MensRights24/03/21 04:48 AM
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that 98% number is made up of like just a very tiny percent of men (literally less than 2%) that's right, i made it clear that it's not all or even most men. it is a tiny percentage. but whether i'll be attacked by a rapist isn't always 2%. for example, if i'm walking alone at night in an empty neighborhood vs in the daytime at a public park. women don't usually say they're cautious ALL the time, rather when they're the most vulnerable. funny how it's never mentioned over 95% of people are raise…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 04:29 AM
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there is little difference physically and hormonally between a black person and a white person. as a woman who is already small compared to other women, there is close to 0% chance that a man would be unable to physically overpower me. we should note that the fear we are talking about is rape/sexual assault. men have around 20 times more testosterone than women, a hormone that contributes to men having a much higher libido. not to mention most women are not even attracted to other women. so of c…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 09:33 PM
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is this not the same as when men say they are afraid to talk to their female co-workers because they might be falsely accused of sexual assault? "we know it's not all women, but we don't know which women", so you are cautious? i'm sorry you think it is sexist of me to be fearful when i walk past a man in the middle of the night. but statistically speaking, if i DID run into a rapist, there is a 98.5% chance he would be male. men are also stronger and larger than me, and their higher libidos and …
/r/MensRights23/03/21 09:25 PM
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oh i see what you're saying. what do you think of r/WhereAreTheGoodMen out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:26 PM
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they would consider low value to be ugly and/or fat women over 30, extra points if they're single moms, extra points if they've slept around, extra points if they're a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:20 PM
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that's literally the official handbook, that's the core of the ideology (and i am not FDS)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 08:19 PM
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cool "evidence" dude ​ if you're actually interested in learning
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:28 AM
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aw someone's upset
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:25 AM
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that may be you, but i've seen countless men say things along the lines of "my only dating requirement is that she's slightly below average or higher in attractiveness, that she's not a drug addict and not a single mom". I can't imagine any woman saying that about her dating standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:24 AM
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they just can't stand facing the fact that most TRP (if not all by definition) are below FDS's standards. because men's standards tend to me more like "as long as she's not ugly" or any other statement that has to do with looks, while women's tend to be looks as well, but ALSO things like "responsible, loyal, caring, patient, has his shit together, etc". and men can't imagine having standards that high because 95% of what they care about is physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:00 AM
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lesbian couples have less frequent sex than gay men because women get sex easily? SINGLE WOMEN masturbate less frequently than single men because women get sex easily? women’s testosterone levels are higher because women get sex easily? what a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:56 AM
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no but you don't understand. since i am ugly, i have low standards. i just ask for a not 900-pound woman. so the least women can do is lower their standards too. that way all men have access to holes. because i have a sex addiction and that's apparently women's problem to deal with, not mine. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:58 PM
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yeah of course
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 05:59 PM
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you’re discussing libido of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 05:19 PM
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based. sex drive ultimately doesn't do much good for anyone. ​ (but im sorry you have to deal with that)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:48 PM
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yeah i guess you must know more than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:51 PM
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show me what i said in my post that was logically inconsistent? and false, i haven’t had sex in months and during that time i’ve masturbated like maybe twice a month. women have lower sex drives than you, wild concept i know. “you want the best of the best options these days” uh yeah did you read my post? it was literally an explanation for this. personally i want no option because i don’t like fucking random strangers. i understand why feminism seems scary. we aren’t dishwashers anymore, must b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:18 PM
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Sorry. I’ll Do Better Next Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:11 PM
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okay but if it’s casual sex vs relationship they prefer relationship because casual sex means getting laid once
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:10 PM
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correct, i did mention this: they don't occur in perfectly competitive markets because the market will eventually correct itself-- suppliers will raise prices until the quantity demanded and supplied are equal. but this isn't possible in a casual sex market because you can't force women to supply more casual sex and you can't force men to demand less casual sex. so what happens? women end up facing a low price for sex, and men end up facing a high price for sex. technically we are talking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:10 PM
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but that's impossible. every man in a LTR is with one woman. chads can fuck many women, but can only marry one woman. it might be that women are pickier when choosing a guy for a LTR but they will eventually have to chose one, there is not shortage of women in the LTR world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:07 AM
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wow, men really are never at fault for anything on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:32 AM
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no i think the women get it. we don't deny reality, we just 1. wish men would stop applying this logic to monogamous LTRs (which are inherently a 1:1 ratio of men and women excluding cheating and divorce) and 2. wish you would not perceive us as evil because we're acting like any other rational person would when faced with a surplus of choices. but yeah, i hope this is an argument that bridges the two sides' disagreement, and acknowledges the existence of men's struggles with getting laid instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:25 AM
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same. every 5 weeks im like "oh porn exists" and maybe I'll watch a clip or two. but when i'm in a relationship it goes up. i think it's a natural part of monogamy so maybe that's why men don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:21 AM
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i tried lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:20 AM
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nah, i'm a radical feminist. if it's a boy i abort /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:17 AM
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i wrote an entire essay to explain the sexlessness in men lol can you tell me where you think my argument went wrong and elaborate on your WWW stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:14 AM
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this is true. but we can't ignore the reality that there's less high libido women than high libido men. frequency masturbation and of watching porn is an excellent (albeit not perfect) indication of sex drive. again, not perfect. but if you want to compare the sex drives of two men, or two women, or a man and a woman, masturbation/porn is a very consistent measure. there's also literal facts such as hormonal disparities between the genders that stand behind this. but yeah men who don't care abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:12 AM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:07 AM
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on the topic of companionship though, LTR's are an equalizer. excluding divorce, there are the exact same amount of men married to women as there are married to men. it's a 1 to 1 ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:06 AM
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Reducing sex drive in men is like telling obese people to stop eating. no, it's like reducing obese people's appetite. ​ Prostitutes choose to sell sex up to men pay for sex at prices of 1000/hr or higher depending on looks and location. Porn stars are making millions because there's such a high demand from men for videos of naked women... let me ask you. how many MEN do you think the average female prostitute provides sex to? and as for porn stars, for each female porn star, how many MEN do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:03 AM
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yep, my bro john
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:49 AM
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Not just because of rape or possible murder, but because, unlike men, they can get pregnant. That's a life time commitment to another human being because of one session of intercourse. So they are more discerning in their dating and what they seek in a relationship, because if it does happen, they want that man who's gonna take responsibility. this is true but it's not the only reason by far. i don't worry about my chances of pregnancy because i have the most efficient preventative method, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:49 AM
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do you think men would take it if they made such a pill (specifically for sex drive reduction)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 05:14 AM
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i mean we don't need to reduce sex drive completely, just enough so that it's easy to keep it between partners and so that sexlessness isn't debilitating for people. children are increasingly more likely to be planned these days, and unplanned pregnancies are bad for society anyways. but i do get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:56 AM
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why, wanna make purple together?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:52 AM
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no worries, always happy to help men out of inceldom. that way we don't have to hear so much whining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:47 AM
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wow, "misogyny is not a joke Jim" guy and i agreed on something, what a day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:43 AM
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this is so funny. "obviously you're a woman" yeah wouldn't i know? When a women finds a man attractive, her sex drive is bigger than any men. why don't women masturbate as much as men then? why don't they watch porn more than men so they can get off to all those chads on screen? why do they swipe left on so many of those chads (even the most swiped-right-on men don't get swiped right on nearly as much as the average woman on tinder does). why are most tinder users men? there's plenty of chads on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:42 AM
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of course some women enjoy casual sex. some women enjoy it even more than men do. but what ultimately matters is how men and women are relative to one another since they're the ones doing the transaction. and relatively, men want casual sex more and more frequently than women do. and this is because of their sex drives which are biologically proven to be greater than women on average. the market is based on overall trends not individual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:38 AM
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yep yep yep yep yep
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:35 AM
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if this existed and everyone with a high sex drive (most men and some women) took it, the world would be an infinitely better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:34 AM
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i see. no, because when you add relationships, sex overlaps. so men probably have a higher demand for a relationship than do women. partly because relationships mean frequent and consistent sex. so women do prefer a relationship over casual sex, but so do men because they end up getting sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:19 AM
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You mean sex drive increasing pills for women? no. men's sex drive is not normal. it leads to harmful effects for themselves and society in general. you hardly see women addicted to porn, spending money (resources) on hookers. women tend to emotionally cheat which is bad yes, but less likely to be a sexual motivator. men cheat more and it's usually motivated by their sex drives. the whole point of a sex drive is to incentivize reproduction-- we are not wild animals anymore, we don't need that mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:17 AM
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this doesn't suggest that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:01 AM
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just to be clear-- i don't think prostitution is a solution to anything. i think the solution would be if men and women's sex drives matched, or if men had the same desire for a monogamous long term relationship that women do. that's the solution. too bad sex-drive-reduction pills don't exist yet. prostitution would definitely harm relationships, and that would mostly affect only women and help only men. but what can you do...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:56 AM
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i know it sounds crazy but your morals should take priority over getting laid. sex shouldn't be that important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:52 AM
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yes it is, but women lie about their sexual past all the time and you don't think this is wrong? i think it's wrong and i wouldn't do this. Also, I lie to women ALL THE TIME, so don't really care about morality. trust me, we know..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:41 AM
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why? why would you deceive a woman into dating you??? imagine if a woman used to be a prostitute, and she lied about it to you during a relationship? is that not distasteful and immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:32 AM
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How can you jump to marriage when you didn't even including dating in your own post? it's called an analogy ​ Even if a female's libido was though the roof, she wouldn't be having causal sex at the same rate as her male counterpart because it poses a threat against her image and even if it didn't pose a threat against her image, the average woman wouldn't be having casual sex at the same rate as her male counterpart because the average woman's libido isn't through the roof. fun tip-- women don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:20 AM
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former incel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:44 AM
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nope. there's no stigma around sex during marriage, yet it's extremely common for women to want less sex with their husbands than their husbands want with them. women also don't masturbate nearly at the rates men do. women's sex drives won't just magically skyrocket just because there's less stigma, it's a biological difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:27 AM
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yep that sounds about right. if only we all had the same goal..... to me, women's goal for long term relationship sounds a lot more beneficial to society overall than men's goal of hyperpoligamy... but that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:28 AM
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except when he gets lucky. you know, sometimes incels get out of inceldom. i dated an incel and he had that mentality "I'll be single forever so it doesn't matter". so he made every relationship mistake i could think of, and ruined it. so, i do not recommend thinking like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:19 AM
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"i'll tell you mine if you tell me yours". i expect honesty because i give honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:16 AM
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exactly, men should feel this way about their prostitution habits. but they would rather lie because sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:15 AM
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yeah it probably would plummet. would probably just resort to staying single forever at that point honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:02 AM
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yeah i learned my lesson from last time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:59 AM
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It’s suburban moms (consistent voters) who don’t want their husbands stopping at the BJ shop on his way home from work. oh and he would. but instead of fighting against the legalization of prostitution, i just strongly consider going full lesbian lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:54 AM
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my ex simply didn't tell me about it :')
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:51 AM
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i'm glad! it's super interesting how applicable econ theories are to the world of sex/dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:49 AM
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what makes you think i don't understand "parato'? i learned about the 80-20 rule as the "The Law of the Vital Few" like way back, didn't know it was coined by him. Parato is more relevant in Game Theory and Welfare econ anyways, the 80-20 rule is more of a basic business thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:14 AM
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ok i might!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:07 AM
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my bad i didnt see. this isn't about 20/80 that much anyways though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:56 PM
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i guess, but it's an equalizer if anything. it means less attractive men can make themselves more sexually desireable if they're rich. like mark zuckerberg lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:49 PM
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this is about casual sex, money plays little role i'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:41 PM
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wait..... the Parato?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:39 PM
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why do you think i'd enjoy it like does he argue his points through similar logic? im genuinely asking because i may end up giving it a go (to be clear i'm not red pilled)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:37 PM
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is it a red pill book?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:30 PM
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You avoid [douchebags] in order to be successful, men become [douchebags] in order to be successful ​ Women are amoral. ​ edit: as to not get banned
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:53 PM
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its like this: they start out either lucky or unlucky with their physical appearance. but then, if they are ugly, they get rejected early on and the more they get rejected, the more they hate women. and the more they hate women, the more they get rejected, the more they think their hatred is valid. the more they think that the real reason they keep getting rejected is because they're ugly which means women are shallow and again the hatred is validated. eventually if they happen to get lucky, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:51 PM
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tell me about it. and because they fetishize us, they end up thinking we do it to appeal to them. they literally think everything is about them. and then they turn around and are homophobic to gay men haha kill me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:48 PM
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and in the end whose morals are sacrificed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:47 PM
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You learned from your experiences with men just as I described men learning from their experiences with women. so me avoiding douchebags due to my personal experience = men becoming douchebags due to their personal experience? yeah, totally equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:37 PM
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We are really not that different its just women have a higher looks threshold. you think out of men who have casual sex, that half of them wouldn't like it? the 42% who did it and didn't like it, they won't want to do it again. just because they have done it doesn't mean they "do it" regularly. if we are "really not that different" are you implying men and women have equal sex drives? have you ever met a dude who doesn't watch porn or masturbate? most men see monogamy as a sacrifice because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:31 PM
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dude i know right. i'm bi myself so i feel bad for judging but i do think a lot of bi women think they are attracted to women but just have regular attraction for them like a gay man would. i also feel like it causes lesbians to not want to date us
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:27 PM
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The latter are burdened with the expectation of a utility exchange that they do not impose on the former. The former are appreciated more unconditionally. why would you want a woman to appreciate you unconditionally? dude you sound like the men who say if a woman gets cheated on it's her fault for not being good enough. also what the fuck is utility exchange if your girlfriend is unhappy in the relationship, unhappy with your behavior, you should want to be better for her. that's how loving rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:25 PM
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why is your motivation to get lucky instead of to have a healthy LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:21 PM
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yeah man, i guess my dad and my child molester were both very alluring to me, i must just love douchebags. not all the guys I've dated were douchebags, only one of them was and he was the only red piller (and former incel). since then, i go out of my way to avoid incels/red pillers. that's me avoiding douchebags. so no, not alluring. huge turnoff actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:20 PM
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After a couple hard lessons, the douchebag emerges. if being treated like shit by the opposite sex results in you treating the opposite sex like shit, you were always a douchebag. you can whine about not getting sex from women all you want. rejecting someone or denying their sexual advances is never an evil thing to do. but you yourself just said women date a lot of douchebags. women face more domestic abuse and violence than men, men are 99% of rapists, women are 76% of domestic violence victim…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:06 PM
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it’s better to be the man to whom you are sexually attracted than the man to whom you are “relationship” attracted. why? especially considering sexual attraction is like 95% just your physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:55 PM
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i just find that when i talk to bi girls (not always) they talk to me like im their friend lmao almost never want to meet up and way more likely to unmatch or not message lesbians are more likely to message first and conversations with them are more like an obvious romantic/sexual interest convo. basically when i talk to bi girls they tend to talk to me the way my straight friends do LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:53 PM
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We see the douchebags they date. so solution = become a douchebag? i get it now, i was wondering why everyone on TRP is an asshole. the only asshole i ever dated was a blackpiller/former incel. being a douchebag won't get you laid. women who sleep around often end up with douchebags because they are also superficial and why would you want to be with them anyways? oh, for sex. i forgot. guess what? after dating that guy, i go out of my way to make sure i dont date anyone else who gives off TRP vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:50 PM
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both/either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:46 PM
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Then why does it matter if he’s tall being tall is a physical trait, this post is about personality. of course women are initially attracted to looks, as are men. women like tall men because they're biologically more likely to be strong, and back in the cavemen days, strong men meant as a woman you were more likely to survive being eaten by a lion or something. i don't know what to tell you. anyways i dont think being tall is a masculine trait but either way it's definitely not a personality tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:45 PM
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yep. men want to sleep around, they see that the (relatively few)w omen who also want to sleep around only fuck chads, so they assume all women want chads. its annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:36 PM
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also seem to ironically have a huge crossover with sex pests and abusers. do they really? because if this is true i need to know lol Traditionally masculine men are as a group are the most successful with women i think this is reverse causation. men who do well with women are (overly) confident and because of that end up acting more masculine. theyre also more likely to "look" masculine as in taller/larger, which i do agree is a physical trait that women are attracted to (but i'm referring to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:34 PM
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if i guy says "yeah i fucked 5 women this week" would you like him? no right? no but most men would, or they'd be jealous of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:01 PM
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So you think men are just biologically less attractive than women...lol no, i said they're statistically perceived as such by both genders. ​ guys get laid for just looks all the time yeah, 20% of them. which means there must not be that many women who actually do this right? even if 40% of women have casual sex, thats 60% of women who don't and could if they wanted to. i bet something like 90% of men would have casual sex if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:40 PM
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i don't know but it makes talking to women on tinder as a woman really fucking annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:38 PM
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The fem(cel)ale version of "sour grapes" okay well im not one. now what
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:34 PM
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annnd those very selfsame women are SHOWING us over and over again that this IS what you want. You decry "toxic masculinity" and then hop in Fuckbuddy's bed. You talk a good game about wanting nice kind men, and then pass them over to fuck the hot guy. you guys are not kind men. the red pill is not kind. we dont consider any of you kind. and regardless, being kind shouldn't be your motivation for getting laid. i'm a nice person and i don't need to be to get laid. why is getting laid men's motiva…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:31 PM
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We legitimately think a lot of women our age our physically attractive. The same criteria for women would result in only 20% of men. both men and women rate women higher on attractiveness than men. also by standards i didn't mean only looks, i don't sleep with men whose personalities i don't vibe with. some men sleep with literal hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:24 PM
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white knights, who are notorious for getting friendzoned. they would get friendzoned regardless. incels usually follow TRP strategies and it still doesn't get them laid. at least the white knights don't idolize Elliot Rodger. but when guys turn submissive it is not preferable sure, but i'm not just talking about things like that. i'm also talking about values. for ex, women have been trying to tell men for years that it's not fair to idolize men who sleep around, and then turn around and call wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:22 PM
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it depends on the type of woman you're looking for. smart independent and self-respecting women don't care about how masculine man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:15 PM
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the hubby dropping the kids off in the "momgarten" before "fucking off away about his day"? god no, i'm in my early 20s, still a student. but when i look for a guy to date i think about these things though they are far into the future. Tried 'hating the player(s), not the game'? by "player(s)" who are you referring to? Do you feel like you're being limited by some[one/thing] in those aspects of your life? no but when i read about TRP views it seems like a stay at home mom who takes care of the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:13 PM
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I've never met an attractive women who didn't hi, nice to meet you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:55 PM
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i won? we want different things buddy. i haven't had sex since my last relationship and do you know how quickly i could get laid by a "chad" if i wanted to? it's not hard, most women have this advantage. one day ill be old and wrinkly and ugly and then what? i dated a below average looking guy who was a literal former incel before he met me. and he treated me the worst out of all of my exes BY FAR. you guys think you're the less shallow gender but it's not true-- it's just that you guys have low…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:38 PM
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why should i be okay with dating someone like that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:29 PM
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And, yes, for us men, the point of getting a woman is to get laid. If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you. then you should get a friends with benefits or a hooker and not play with people's feelings like that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:28 PM
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No idea. I'm not a woman, so how could I know? well you seem to think you know a lot about what women want. So you're one of those who believe dating must end in sex? no? What do you give in return? what do you want my dating profile or something? i'm currently getting a quality education which will allow me to be very financially independent in a couple years. i don't party sleep around or do (hard) drugs. i am attractive, not that that matters since we all get old and wrinkly anyways but there…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:24 PM
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How can you keep a partner if you can't even get one? what's the point of getting one if you can't keep them? if what you want is to get laid, tough. get a prostitute. like i said to some other guy, would you fuck the fat ugly bald woman if shes really nice? probably not, but that doesn't mean she should stop being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:47 PM
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you people literally want a brain-dead slave lmao get a housecleaner or nanny or something
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:45 PM
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why are they choosing these types of dudes just because assholes are getting laid doesn't mean you should try to be an asshole. i don't know how this is even up for debate. getting laid shouldn't be your ultimate goal anyways, nor should getting into a relationship. your goal should be a lasting LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:38 PM
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“caring”, “sacrificing”, “pleasing”, “accommodating” and “receiving” ah yes, sounds just like the opposite of what i want in a man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:36 PM
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And this isn’t tiktok, why do you have numbers in your words like that? the post gets instantly shitpost flagged when you mention the word feminism or feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:35 PM
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BECAUSE they spent years attempting to DO what women said they wanted in mates only to have some girl or girls end up choosing the men who DID NONE OF THOSE THINGs instead. no, those men were doing what women wanted but they are unattractive and it's really hard to find a partner if you are unattractive. that doesn't mean you should act like an asshole. would you fuck the obese fat bald woman if she were really nice? no? okay, should she stop being nice then since that's obviously not working fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:23 PM
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ah, you're just looking to get laid. yeah i guess personality isn't too important when that's your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:21 PM
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first of those "pick me" girls are really nice and friendy with boys but they put down other women that's inherently a part of the definition. if she is nice and friendly with 50% of the population, why does it matter if she is shitty with the other 50%? same thing will happen if guys have same traits as girls, they (usually) will get friendzoned. pick me girls don't get friendzoned, they get "picked", as in romantically. that's where the term pick me girl comes from. cuz let me tell you, a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:19 PM
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Maybe you're not independent enough? Are you gainfully employed? the last thing i need is a man to financially support me buddy. and the ones you crave but sounds to me like you might be having issues seeing despite there being lots of us you are not even slightly in the realm of a man i "crave". it's actually scary being on these subreddits and knowing i could get in a relationship with one of you and not realize you're a red piller in disguise. that's why i like this sub, i can learn about wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:12 PM
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Women actually LIKE men who are busy, don't pedestalize or prioritize women, don't take women seriously, don't supplicate to women. false. what the fuck? women and men should both take each other seriously. Women HATE HATE HATE men who change for them where did you get this info? some fellow MGTOW men? maybe you should start listening to women in successful and healthy long term relationships, not take advice from assholes who get laid a lot. maybe your measure of success shouldn't be a man's bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:57 PM
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are you fucking serious dude i'm not talking about reddit and i'm not talking about matching with someone for the sake of a hookup. i'm talking about operating in society out in the open like normal human beings do not on some hookup app that you're all obsessed with (which by the way, is 72% male so who are the ones trying to find partners in the most shallow way possible?)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:51 PM
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Personality doesn’t really matter in terms of getting a partner. Just how people say someone of every look is able to find a partner, it is even more true of personality your goal should not be getting a partner. it should be keeping a partner. and for that, personality absolutely matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:50 PM
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men hide their actual imperatives? what are men's actual imperatives that they hide when in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:49 PM
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having a 'good' personality is a trope create by women. No point putting in all this graft and working on your 'personality' if a more attractive guy can just come along and get attachment yeah, physical appearance is the first thing people see. of course it's going to "come first" not because its more important to women but because personality takes time to get to know from someone. but if your personality is garbage, she might leave you. when/if she finds out youre a red piller, she'll leave y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:48 PM
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Having a “masculine” personality is important to these men. but women have been telling you over and over again that this isn't what we want. there's even a term out there for it-- toxic masculinity-- which doesn't encompass all masculinity obviously but it is something men shouldn't aspire to be. and TRP basically teaches you how to be artificially masculine to the point of toxicity. the fact that i say artificially is important. if you have to act or develop masculine traits that you don't nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:37 PM
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i'm not talking about who cares more about personality, i meant who cares more about appealing to the other gender's personality preferences to the point of changing it to appeal to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:31 PM
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0% chance because i, like many other women, don’t want to fuck some random dude. the moment you guys start to realize that the reason there’s a shortage of women who want casual sex is because women generally prefer connecting with a person before intimacy, the faster this TRP bullshit will end. i’ve gone on many dates where they guy was charming and attractive and blahablh and i just didn’t vibe with him so he got to leave the date blue-balled. and i’ve had even more instances of ghosting perfe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:42 AM
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or be like the majority of women and hold the standards for who you sleep with as high as the standards for who you marry. you almost never see women paying for prostitutes for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:32 AM
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women that you know are not having sex because they can’t find anyone they find desirable dude i'm literally a woman, i can find someone desireable and so can my friends, i just don't want to have sex with random strangers because that's gross. and many of my friends think so too and that's why they don't have sex. and even if it were true that women couldn't find a desireable man to sleep with-- if they wanted sex badly enough, trust me, they would lower their standards. like men do. have you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:30 AM
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it's flipped. the majority are fucking the minority of men because there's a surplus of men for them to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:51 PM
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if you truly believe women and men have equal sex drives and equal desires for casual sex, i completely understand where your confusion is coming from. however, it's false and it's very very hard to find reliable studies pointing to anything other than the fact that men have a higher sex drive than women. for example: this study looked at several variables that indicate sex drive and found that: Men think about sex more often, experience more frequent sexual arousal, have more frequent and varie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:48 PM
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yes, and that certain kind of man who is sleeping with multiple women, the "chads" every guy is so jealous of for some reason, he can offer that high price that women require for casual sex. if men didn't have as much interest in casual sex, if men had a lower sex drive than women, the price for sex from men would be lower ie. women would have to lower their standards because those "chads" wouldn't want to have a lot of sex. there wouldn't be enough of them to go around, if you will. so women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:03 PM
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show me where i said women are not having any sex? simple supply and demand, buddy. there is a relatively high demand for sex from men, and a relatively low demand for sex from women. therefore, there is a relatively low supply of women who want to have sex with men, and a relatively high supply of men who want to have sex with women. what happens when there is a low supply and high demand for something? price is high. the price of having sex with women is high. what's the "price" we have to pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:27 PM
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i really didn't, i just said women are increasingly more educated, and while education does not equal intelligence, it has a high correlation with knowledge for obvious reasons. and some people value knowledge and learnedness over natural intelligence so it is relevant. Undergrad education is a joke. It's not a proper learning environment. It's all about getting the best grades for the least amount of effort. in some schools, maybe. but certainly not all. an undergrad degree in computer science …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:16 PM
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i didnt say educated people were intelligent, i just said they were educated. which is true. also i can't imagine summing up all of education as "useless material". like you really think math and chemistry and engineering majors are learning useless material?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:01 PM
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that just isn't true. some girls sleep around, some don't. but ALL can. if ALL men could sleep around, most of them would. only some women do. that's why there's a shortage of women who want to have sex with men, if there wasn't a shortage there wouldn't be so many sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:24 PM
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exactly. you can see what a man’s actual desires are if you look at men who can get as much sex as they want. usually they’ll end up indeed getting as much sex as they can. on the other hand, most women can get as much sex as they want already and most of them choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 09:18 AM
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Sometimes, you’re good enough for only causal sex and not a relationship. this is undoubtedly not applicable to men, only applicable to women. for men, sometimes you're only good enough for a relationship but not casual sex. for women, sometimes you're only good for casual sex but not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:59 AM
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i think they want the best of both worlds-- a woman to be romantically involved with while still fucking other women on the side. i mean, eventually, a lot of them end up doing that in secret anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:58 AM
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The wider distribution of male iq, and more extreme extremes make it hard to match men and women of similar iq's ALL ALONG THE DISTRIBUTION. yes of course there are discrepancies all along the distribution, but the differences grow larger the farther out you go. it becomes harder to match men and women the farther away from the median you go. men and women who are 1 standard deviation above the mean are more closely matched than men and women who are 2 standard deviations above the mean. so the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:26 AM
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this is so funny. "hey we don't need to focus on extremities since OP was talking about simple above average intelligence not extreme right tail ends of the distribution" "DROP OUT OF COLLEGE" dude, chill. i hesitate to mention this because it almost gives away my school at this point but my university does not do affirmative action. by law. they are not allowed to know applicants' race/ethnicity, and haven't for years. but if convincing yourself that all women who go to top schools and have goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:06 AM
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Bragging about being in an undergrad program as if it meant something bro i was literally just responding to your statement about whether i ever took a stats class, it seems it triggered you my bad edit: also you're just regurgitating what i'm saying at this point and still claiming i don't understand. you look dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:53 PM
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for someone who doesn't think my degree is relevant, you seem pretty obsessed with it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:51 PM
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I TA'd a predictive analytics and stats class well fuck good thing my GSI's were never as shitty as you the reason i said this: there's smart men and smart women and extremities aren't too relevant. is because OP did not say "extremely smart" or "extremely dumb". he just said "intelligent", which is not "extreme", it's not the right tail that you're describing. intelligent or higher is considered 110-115 ish or above. 132 is about top 2%, what most would consider highly gifted. highly gifted =/=…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:36 PM
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jesus christ dude, i know what the distribution of men vs women looks like and i made that clear in my reply but i guess it went right over your 129 IQ head. i'm emphasizing the point you left out until your last reply, which is that the left tail of the male's distribution is also much larger than the woman's right tail. but i guess that's convenient to ignore when you're trying to further your "boys rule girls drool" childish argument. people of mediocre intelligence get really defensive about…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 10:33 PM
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nothing more fragile than a man who can't help but announce his IQ in a conversation about men and women's intelligence variance. buddy if you take the population and divide men and women, and then rank each group in accordance with their intelligence, then pair each man with one woman by rank, there will be approximately the same amount of women paired with a man dumber than them as there are women paired with a man smarter than them. this isn't even taking into account academics. Men are more …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:56 PM
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a very low IQ man will have a VERY hard time finding a similarly dumb woman. in the end, who cares? there's smart men and smart women and extremities aren't too relevant. a "very high IQ" is genius level, not "intelligent" level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:12 PM
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okay, then picking any woman at random would give you a 1/4 chance of picking an intelligent one by your standards. these comments indicate that intelligent women are almost impossible to find when in reality they're just as common as intelligent men. in fact women are statistically more educated in America (women are increasingly the majority of college degree recipients)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:39 PM
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if most women are average that means it shouldn’t be that hard to find a woman above the 50th percentile
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:09 PM
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damn the amount of replies on this thread making it seem like intelligent women are nearly nonexistent is sad. this is why i’d never date a red piller, imagine having to go through so many shitty years of college just for the guy im dating to automatically assume im a retard. fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:06 PM
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yeah because most women are stupid right? ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 05:02 PM
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and some red pillers won't tell you they're red pillers right away either lmao that's called lying and it's a separate issue from being promiscuous or a red piller. when you find out, even if you've caught feelings it's your responsibility to stay true to your values of not dating promiscuous girls (just like i would leave a red piller regardless of my feelings for him because i'm not desperate enough to stay with someone who goes against my values that strongly).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:41 PM
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if his opposition towards promiscuity is strong enough, it's his responsibility to stay true to his values and not give in to dating someone who goes strictly against them out of desparation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 09:27 PM
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okay, there you go. don't see what the complaint is if we all live in a free society where we can reject whoever we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:31 PM
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And average dudes don't want to be your consultation prize when you couldn't land a chad lol then they can just reject us? men can reject women too. wild concept, i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:21 PM
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yup. you're right. women have sex with top 20% dudes and then commit to the average dudes. when so many of the top 20% want to have sex with the top 80% women, of course the 80% of women will prefer sex with the top 20% dudes. it's kind of common sense, no? we all want the best we can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:36 AM
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yeah how dare women prefer to date good looking men over ugly ones. such whores right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 07:31 AM
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yes and people of every race killed by police were also mourned. but BLM doesn’t exist for every person who was mourned right? the racial prejudice that exists against black people which causes police to pull the trigger is one of perceived violence. perceived violence is also almost exclusive to men. women aren’t perceived as violent threats regardless of their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 07:30 AM
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okay this always fucking bothered me. honestly, it should be black men's lives matter, not black lives matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 06:10 AM
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because people involved in violence (ie gangs) are most likely to face violence, and most people involved in violence are men. it would be different if it were that murderers are usually women, and victims are usually men. or even if murderers are usually men, and victims are also usually men but who are not involved in violence. discouragement of violent activity and encouraging men to engage in more productive methods of obtaining income and relieving rage would also save the lives of many of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 06:08 AM
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i like skinny tall men. like, scrawny is fine with me. i don’t like muscular, not my ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 05:40 AM
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also— why would anyone even want a harem? is one partner not enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:04 PM
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I have never heard of women selecting for low n counts yeah, thats kind of the point. so why do men select for low n counts? isn't it treat others the way you'd like to be treated? double standards shouldnt exist, if you sleep around (or WOULD if you COULD) you should not judge others for doing so regardless of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 10:16 AM
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Weird is a dealbreaker for some people men. ​ Got to the sluttiest man you know and call him a slut. no one does this. the reason he wont care is because he knows if i call hima slut, im a minority in society, the rest applauds him while shaming the women who do the exact same thing. imagine if the men desperate enough to PAY for sex were shamed as much as the women who get paid to have sex. You don’t appreciate that because as a woman you’re conditioned to expect it. you dont want to have casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 10:03 AM
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That means if you’re, normal =average, you won’t have more sex than 8 people. Whether you can’t or chose not to. making a value judgement about someone (ie. whether being a slut is bad for a woman vs for a man) should not depend on whether they CAN, it should be about whether they WOULD. who in the real world is complaining about the double standard? The slutty women not the slutty men. because the double standard is that women get judged for being slutty while slutty men don't. why would men co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:17 AM
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You’re trying to act like men and women are the same. You can’t change reality. Men’s options are limited. Women’s aren’t. what? i literally said this: most women CAN have as much sex as they want (this is something both TRP and TBP agree on) yes, men's options are limited because women DON'T want to have sex as much as you do. which means the vast majority of women have way more control than the vast majority of men, because once again, the only reason men aren't having a ton of sex is because …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 07:55 AM
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It’s impulse control plain and simple. Men aren’t required to commit to someone who lacks it. i agree. are women required to commit to men who lack it? because you just admitted if they could have sex with a million women a day they would. meaning, it's not that they have impulse control, it's that their options are limited. so why should women have to commit to someone without impulse control?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 07:01 AM
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if men COULD have as much sex as they possibly wanted, i promise you the majority of them would be having as much sex as the sluttiest of all women. if we can agree on the above, then if the majority of men are judging women for promiscuity, they are being hypocrites. because they are judging women for what they would do if they could. the fact is, most women CAN have as much sex as they want (this is something both TRP and TBP agree on). yet, men have a hard time getting laid-- why? because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 06:39 AM
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*74% but whatever anyways, we get it dude you think men are hotter and i think women are hotter. we all have our personal preferences no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:09 AM
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there's no way to know for sure but i know the indicators now because i dated one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:06 AM
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Also we all know why the guys posted on r/niceguys are getting rejected, we don’t have to see their pictures you have no idea how many 8/9/10s ive rejected who have been fucking rude to me, and I've never posted on r/niceguys but if i had to, the best screenshots would probably be from those guys. this is my issue with TRP, you guys always assume. they go out of their way to blur out photos so people aren't mean to these guys based on appearance, yet you still assume. but the outrage for scumbag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 10:48 PM
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but notice how i never suggested nor assumed that all you brought to the table was money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 10:45 PM
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I would agree that you could probably extend this to average guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 10:43 PM
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you two probably aren’t compatible due to mismatched libido yeah that's quite literally what i said but you still argued with me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 10:42 PM
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or they could just not resent women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 10:41 PM
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shit we are the same person. did you get into TRP/TBP debates because you found out your ex was a TRP follower? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:34 PM
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i live in california where people are a lot less fat, but disregarding that-- bringing up obesity to back up your argument seems odd considering 3 in 4 American men are overweight so this actually just supports my claim? like were you actually trying to respond to my argument which was purely comparative in nature, or was your aim just to say you think the large majority of women are ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:53 AM
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bro it was obviously an exageration, and i know ugly girls still get swipes. i was just speaking on the percentage of swipes the average woman get, which is much higher than the average man's. and i gave many reasons for this, one of them being that women are perceived as more attractive than men on average (this is backed by studies across all genders). “If I can get guys to fuck me it must mean I’m hot” has to be the most common cope of ugly women i never said this nor do i think this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:48 AM
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why’s that an issue? because we’re talking about casual sex, what tinder is usually used for right? i don’t think it’s an issue that men want sex more and more frequently than women, resulting in them lowering their standards and allowing women to raise their standards. no one owes you sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:43 AM
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not really, my issue with dating men honestly boils down to things that are much more common with men, such as their high sex drive and the fact that if given the option, most would prefer a one-sided open relationship over monogamy, or even just being single if they could guarantee consistent sex (that's what the most attractive men end up doing most of the time which shows that most men would do it if they could). i'm a very monogamous person and i wish my partner were just as much, but this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:31 AM
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im single but i was considerably more attractive than my ex. actually i didn't know it at the time but he frequented incel/blackpill forums. i tend to like guys with nerdier interests/humor who coincidentally end up being on-average less attractive. like for example, if a guy's tinder is full of sports and NFL shit i'm swiping left immediately lol. and at the time i used to think that if a guy was less attractive he was probably sweeter/valued women more, but now i think that's flawed logic with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:58 AM
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because you should move on. if someone doesn't want you, you should move on. also, why would you want to date someone who ghosted you, even if they change their mind? fuck that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:41 AM
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yeah? that just supports the argument that men are more likely to be willing to lower their standards if it means sex. women wouldn't do this because we would have too many messages to look/read thruogh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:17 AM
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okay. i shouldve said "the proportion of hot women amongst all women tends to be higher than the proportion of hot men amongst all men". like for example, if 10% of men are an 8 or above, something like 30% of women are an 8 or above. this isn't just my opinion-- when people of all genders are asked to rate men and women, women are rated higher consistently on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:15 AM
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i'm thinking about making a big ass post on some incel sub and begging these men to learn to dress nice. like genuinely in a helpful way though. i dont know which one wouldn't ban me though LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:00 AM
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this this this this this. this is where i was going where i said that men are more likely to lower their standards for sex. i mean, everyone is willing to lower their standards if all they want out of it is sex-- but women are more likely to be looking for a longer term thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 01:58 AM
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Go take a peek and r/niceguys These morons make a no-life day and night career out of consistently cruelly berating men who are likely unnacttractive and become frustrated with rejection this is what you said, the reason i brought up r/whereareallthegoodmen is because your whole comment was about attraction and how ugly girls get guys "above their league" and this is never the case for guys (which by the way is only true in the case of casual sex because less women want casual sex, low supply + …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 01:44 AM
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mmmmm thats a tough one, i would say maybe? like for me one thing i like better about guys is their humor-- most of the YouTubers i watch for entertainment are men, and i have more fun/humorous conversations with my guy friends. and i know this is one of the things less attractive men focus on to "make up" for their lack of attractiveness (actually one of the reason i find "chads" boring is usually theyre not that fun to talk to so even if i give them a shot i end up ghosting them). i also perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:35 PM
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are you asking me if i think men DO have a leg up in personality or that IF they did would that help them in the dating department?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:19 PM
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Yes it's so terrible how he tells women they should be comfortable with who they are, and focus on things other than false external beauty. him: Then she starts bitching and cuntplaining when she is taking her makeup off and anxiety kicks in because he's not drunk anymore the next day... And don't give me this "Not true at all!!! REEEEE" bs. And since sex is all they have to offer, the guy, of course, good for him, pumps and dumps as there is nothing of substance to stay with after having fucked…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:50 PM
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i did take a look at r/niceguys and noticed most of the posts dont even show their faces, some even blur or mark them out. but hey, you might find r/whereareallthegoodmen a little bit more interesting, take a look :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:48 PM
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there's no such thing as a reasonable standard, we all want the best. if the 3/10 girl is getting a bunch of 7/10 matches, you're telling me she should aim lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:46 PM
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this post is about dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:45 PM
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72% men, but a good percent of the women are advertising their onlyfans or are bots so id say like 85% men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:43 PM
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hey, that's the spirit! love knowing some of you see me as a walking vagina. one more step towards fully going lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:39 PM
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this post does not boil down to that. read the post. i gave many reasons including that there's less men on the app. and no, i dont hate ugly men i actually dated an incel and it was the biggest mistake of my life he treated me like garbage because you people taught him how to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:36 PM
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okay and? you can wear makeup too if you want to buddy, it's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:34 PM
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that's why i didnt only mention that disparity alone, read my original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:21 PM
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lots of people, you seem bitter enough about it to respond
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:12 PM
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“ignore” isn’t shitting on. women don’t owe you anything, so them not accepting your advances isn’t being shit on, it’s being fairly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:51 PM
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shit on guys their level? you mean "swipe left"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:15 PM
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congrats, you swipe left on so many women. i happen to think tattooed women are hot but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:03 PM
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yep what’s your point? if that’s how badly the “slim normal” guy wants sex why’s that her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 06:57 PM
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okay? point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 06:32 PM
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then i hope you’re TBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 06:31 PM
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“men are constantly horny” is a generalization just like “women are shallow” is. and the former isn’t even really a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 06:30 PM
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men can get casual sex from outside dating apps too so i don’t know what your point was there okay well that’s all i said i just said they don’t want hookups as much women still want a relationship with an attractive guy as would anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 11:48 AM
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if our gender wants casual sex so badly, why are 72% of tinder users men? i mean, we have such good luck on tinder shouldn’t all girls use it? since we love casual sex so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 11:29 AM
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dude, walk outside. make a friend group. go to a bar even. dating apps have only been around for a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:59 AM
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Because no it's because women aren't as horny and don't like hookups as much. its not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:36 AM
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i have an iud, i'm not going to get pregnant regardless. so no, it's because women are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:20 AM
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and incel subs are full of men talking about how disgusting fat women are and how they'd never date them. ugly people don't want to date other ugly people. and of course 3 women can get away with matching with 5 men, tinder is over 70% male and men are constantly horny and therefore willing to settle. its simple supply/demand: low supply, high demand (women) = high price. the price being looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:26 AM
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ugly women might not be getting the most attractive men, but they absolutely get matched with men who are more attractive than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:01 AM
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yes but who gets plastic surgery/filler done at a higher rate? men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:45 AM
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doesn't he??? makes me wish he'd pump and dump me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:42 AM
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are you American? if you're from like Texas or South Carolina yeah i guess 3/10 are hot. maybe if you're older too, since many have "hit the wall" as you people like to call it. but i'm 20 and live in socal, every girl is vegan, works out, dresses well, and has money to spend on looks-- there's definitely more than 3/10 here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:38 AM
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an intellectual commenting on my post. an honor, truly. i would try to argue back but i'm just an empty-minded woman-- don't want to embarrass myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:13 AM
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i don't think so. women are more likely to go to great lengths to look good-- makeup, hair styling, etc. biologically, like "in the wild" if you will, females will be attracted to a mate that is large and can protect them. it doesn't matter too much what their figure is or if theyre facially attractive. males in the wild choose a mate with "child-bearing" features (hips/curves/breasts) and a nice face, basically a woman they'd want to have sex with. so with thousands of years of evolution, you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 08:07 AM
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then you'd finally have luck with girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:44 AM
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oh you think man hot woman ugly? sounds kinda gay bro can't say i agree, i think woman usually really hot and man sometimes hot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:39 AM
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not when 72% of the users are male. and, it's a hookup app. men are much more likely to be willing to lower their standards if it means sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:36 AM
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and what's wrong with having standards? you have none?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:31 AM
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that's because most women are hot-- i'm a bi girl and i swipe right on many times more women than men. 99% is an exaggeration, but sure let's go with that-- if i were shallow, wouldn't i be swiping left on 99% of girls too? i don't though. i swipe right much more often on women. and i know for a fact this is a shared experience among bisexual women. I'm not shallow, it's just that women are hotter. that's it. you can follow TRP all you want but the average man is still going to be uglier than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:25 AM
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that's why i said *based almost purely on appearance* buddy. so if a girl was really overweight with yellow crooked teeth, severe acne and a shaved head, would you swipe right because she had a cool dog? okay, now imagine theres a super hot girl with a dog that's just as cool, and you know she's probably going to swipe right on you. why would you bother with the first girl anyways? we're all shallow to an extent, but just because you have to lower your standards to get swipes doesn't mean we're …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:17 AM
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yeah exactly. it's not even a mystery why they think that-- that's part of the TRP ideology. they're nice to women at first but still get rejected, so they think being mean is the answer. this is unfortunate logic which will result in both parties ending up hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 09:06 AM
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i dated a former incel. before dating him i had very little knowledge about TRP or the incel community, and going through that relationship made me sympathize but also realize that TRP is a serious threat to society. he treated me horribly, always put me down, and lied about having slept with all these women. he would talk about how fat some of them were and make up these stories where he'd say something really mean to them then say he didnt care if he hurt their feelings because he hated all of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 12:32 AM
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i said percent men vs women who are college degree recipients not percent men vs women currently on college campuses....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:06 AM
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as of the last few years, US women have officially surpassed men in percent of college degree recipients. so that’s the education side of things. since your post screams elitism, i’m going to assume you only consider high paying fields “careers”. in that case— the percentage of women in STEM (highest paying) fields has been and continues to grow dramatically. cant speak to medical school but most med students come from STEM majors so there’s probably a correlation there too. percent of PhD award…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:00 PM
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false because an unconventionally attracrtive person has to do more than a conventionally attractive one to attract people. a conventionally attractive man like zac efron can just wake up one day, where whatever, and he attracts everyone. someone like ezra miller not so much. plus people aren't "universally" attracted to them like they would be with zac efron.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:13 PM
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sure and maybe the women i'm surrounded with aren't a representative sample for the "average" woman, but if your facebook friends are stay at home moms with rich husbands who are constantly advertising their pyramid scheme, that's not representative of women either. what we do know is that the percentage of women in STEM fields is growing. women are already surpassing men in total percent of bachelor degrees, and higher-paying fields are growing in women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:27 PM
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There's nothing wrong with wishing it wasn't your career that had to take the backseat when you and your partner started a family. if you make the lower income, it's probably going to end up being you (regardless of gender). I live in California, where the average male income is $39k, and average female income is $26k. I haven't graduated yet, but the average salary in California for my major is $140k. so statistically, I'm likely to make more than my future husband. if my future husband makes $…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:45 AM
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why would a woman point to a statistic that says women work less hours than men to prove that women work more hours than men? or are you talking about the women who point out that "child caretaking" should be included in those hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:59 PM
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okay if a couple is married with 2 kids, and the man works 40 hours a week and the woman also works 40 hours a week, and the woman takes care of 80% of the housework and 80% of the child care, the man is working less hard than the woman unless he works a truly more exhausting job. but i feel like in most cases if the woman works too she works less hours. so this is not a lazy man, the lazy man is the one with 5 kids from 3 different mothers running around who doesen't help raise/see them never p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:52 PM
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Is it not a mainstream opinion that no. i really don't think it is. for example, with a world that's 50% male, i doubt any considerable percentage of that 50% believes any of that. now the other 50% of women? i don't know, there are more single mothers than single fathers and those single mothers usually work too. then they hear men constantly advocating for getting out of the 50% financial responsibility that is asked of them (child support) without even needing to help raise them. now when it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:43 PM
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what they prefer is the money dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:24 AM
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you people have literal worms in your brain. every human being would rather have sex with a person they find attractive than someone they don't find attractive. add to this the disparity between women and men's sex drives, and you get a society where women just have more options. if you could fuck a new woman every single day, ANY of your choosing, you'd never fuck an ugly girl in your life. but no you're right, if women prefer to fuck an attractive smart charming guy who doesn't hate women over…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:00 AM
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oh no no no.... The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. The onus is on females because only females can get pregnant. Until men can get pregnant it will never be a man's fault for carrying a baby to term and bringing a new life into this world. fault: noun responsibility for an accident or misfortune. what you did here is redefine parenthood to mean "motherhood". if you stay consistent to your earlier statement that no responsibilities = no rights, and no ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:47 PM
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you realize most single mothers were once under the false impression that the fathers would never leave right? most fathers abandon their children years after they’re born, after the woman’s right to an abortion expires. but let me guess— she’s still the dumbfuck despite being under false pretenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:21 PM
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well hey, at least you’re consistent. i think taking away financial responsibilities away from all fathers is not worth taking away paternal rights from all fathers. but to each their own i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:15 PM
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you said it yourself: no rights means no responsibilities. that’s exactly the conclusion i came up with yet you said it was an unreasonable one? you initially suggested the responsibility is ALWAYS 100% the mother’s never the father’s, so i pointed out that in this case men wouldn’t have rights to their children since rights and responsibilities are mutually exclusive. way to confuse yourself into agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:07 PM
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okay so post birth is also post conception. and post birth, both the men and the woman face completely equal responsibilities to their child. now, what you want is equal rights post conception but PRE BIRTH. that has nothing to with child support because you don’t pay child support for a fetus, you pay it for a child and at that point the child can’t be aborted. women do have an exclusive right when it comes to pre-birth/post-conception. but we should keep in mind that if a woman aborts, she doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:00 PM
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Until men can get pregnant it will never be a man's fault for carrying a baby to term and bringing a new life into this world. oh i see, so responsibilities lie completely with the woman because of the biological disparities? okay so why don't we only give legal custody to the woman and deny fathers all of their parental rights? if a man is never at fault for bringing life into this world, then the man shouldn't have the rights to the life he "never brought into this world"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:04 PM
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exactly, kidnapping is illegal while both the father and the mother have the legal right to drop off their baby at a safe haven. i believe there's like 2 states where only the mother can do it, and if you want to advocate for these states to give the rights to men too, I'm all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:59 PM
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why do you think one side gets to decide on all options before birth after conception and before birth i dont know, maybe because abortion is a bodily autonomy issue and men don't have to carry fetuses? Before conception, both genders have several options, such as birth control, abstinance, being more selective of who you sleep with, getting your tubes tied or vasectomies. yes, women have that one extra option-- the abortion. men not having that option is not a valid reason to 1. ban it, or 2. l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:57 PM
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in those cases (and actually all child support cases), the father can request DNA paternity confirmation before needing to pay a penny. in the case that he is correct, the mother faces criminal charges. you're right, it is the woman's decision entirely to turn the fetus into THEIR child. and the reason it's her decision is because the fetus will be in HER body for 9 months, not because the child suddenly only belongs to her. abortion is a bodily autonomy issue which has nothing to do with men be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:40 PM
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a man could choose to not proposition, or if propositioned by a woman, he could choose to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 05:38 PM
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ooooooh that's what it's for? why didn't you just say so. ​ men can be forced to pay for a child that isn't theirs luckily, the court is required to determine paternity through DNA test before the child’s father has any rights or financial responsibilities to the child. lose a child that they wanted to keep I'm confused, what child? because a society in which abortion is legal has decided that a fetus isn't a child. i also don't see how aborting a fetus makes a woman a "predator" since it is a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 09:28 AM
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how am i making that argument? please, enlighten me. because in a free country, everything is legal by default and the only purpose of criminalization is to prohibit harmful activity. unless you believe abortion is murder, it would be grossly authoritarian of you to suggest we should ban abortion simply because there's other ways to prevent pregnancy. that's like saying we should ban vasectomies because IUD's exist. even worse, to ban abortion simply because it's not an option for men. when scie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 09:05 AM
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really? weird, because it seems to me like the original article is about men potentially being able to veto abortion, and TRP has somehow managed to turn even this into a victimization of men. of course, men don’t have uteruses and can’t abort themselves, so they used this as an opportunity to whine about it. the funny thing is that abortion is something that only women CAN DO, since men literally can’t conceive. yet the argument of choice, child support, is a legal responsibility for both men A…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:12 AM
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what your describing is illegal. if we’re going to talk about things without putting them in a legislative context, we can start by talking about the percentage of fathers who leave their children and the percent who don’t pay child support anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:03 AM
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who are all these women addicted to erotica you speak of? i think you underestimate just how many men are addicted to porn, some of them don’t even know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:00 AM
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you misunderstand me. i’m saying that men shouldn’t be able to opt out of child support since women have to pay child support too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 05:30 AM
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after the child has been born, neither the mother nor the father have the choice to financially abandon it unless they both agree to give it up for adoption. period. there’s nothing to argue here, once a child has been born they’re both responsible by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 05:27 AM
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oh so men are forced to have sex with women? they can’t say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:44 AM
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women opting out of carrying a fetus to term is not the same as a man opting out of paying for his ALREADY BORN child. women can’t opt out of child support either, and if she aborted shes taking away the financial responsibility for BOTH of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:37 AM
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the equivalent of a man not having to pay child support is a woman not having to pay child support. if she aborts it, she is taking away the financial responsibility for both of them. if he “financially aborts”, the woman has to pay DOUBLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:34 AM
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this is an article about the logistics of abortion not the legality of it why are u on this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:30 AM
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if the mother aborts then they both get out of the financial responsibility, and no one loses. if she doesn’t abort, and the man “financially vetos”, she’s stuck with DOUBLE the financial responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:29 AM
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similarly, a man can prevent the creation of life simply by saying "no". No abortions necessary. No "99% effective". Just a simple "no" and a new life will not be created. who says women are powerless to men? speak for yourself. no one "defers" this power unto men, this entire time I've been saying it's preventable by BOTH genders, child support is mandatory for BOTH genders, and BOTH genders are financially responsible once the child has been born unless BOTH GENDERS decide to give it up for ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:01 AM
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it's no ones "fault" if neither of them intended it. a woman cant create life by herself just like a man can't create life by himself. both men and women can prevent having a child by abstaining from sex. so if the woman doesn't want to financially support a child, don't have sex. if a man doesn't want to financially support a child, don't have sex. notice both genders have this ability, but since men can't fathom a world without sex, they pretend like eggs just fertilize themselves. The irony o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 12:35 AM
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what, you mean my decision to use my own sperm to impregnate myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 12:23 AM
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Immaculate conception, or did they choose open their legs? correction: Immaculate conception, or was a man who knew the risks also involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 12:22 AM
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who cares who pays
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:19 PM
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but they already got pregnant and now we’re talking about what happens next, keep up buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:14 PM
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see i deleted that part of my post before you responded to it because i just fucking KNEW it would get responded to and the rest of my points would be ignored. and, alas^
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:34 PM
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and neither of those groups should hate the opposite gender. how about we say that instead
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:32 PM
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it doesn’t matter who files for divorce more because 96% of custody battles are mutually agreed upon by the parents not the court and most fatherless children are born out of wedlock anyways. yep, men can’t get pregnant. congrats, you solved this mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:29 PM
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the literal ONLY reason men don’t have that option too is they don’t have a uterus. otherwise, both men and women have a financial responsibility after its born. plenty of women leave their children a few years after they’re born. they have to pay child support to the father at that point. imagine wanting to be able to get out of legal financial responsibility of a child that’s already been born just because women have the right to terminate pregnancy BEFORE the child is born. truly incredible l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:25 PM
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sex doesn't have to be consent to parenthood for abortion to be legal. it should be legal because there's no reason for it not to be. women will be forced into paying child support involuntarily if they leave the child after it's born and the man doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:17 PM
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ah yes, the child is fatherless but the dumbfuck is the mother who stayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:09 PM
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but if she has the kid and doesn't want it, the father gets it. then, she has to pay child support too. child support isn't exclusive to men it's just more common for fathers than mothers to leave their children, what part about that is so hard to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:08 PM
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so two men have sex and the woman gets pregnant, suddenly she decided to have a kid but the man didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 08:07 PM
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men don't have uteruses, as it turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:42 PM
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actually "fair is fair" would be: if women don't have to pay child support, men don't have to pay child support. or alternatively: if a man can't veto a woman's right to abortion, then women can't veto a man's right to abortion. so since men don't have uteruses so they can't have their right to abortion "vetoed", you chose to equate it to child support? even though child support is something men and women both have to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:32 PM
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but why? one parent can probably only keep their child if they know they have financial support from the other parent. if men carried the baby, they could abort too. since they don't have a uterus, they can't. a woman shouldn't be able to "financially abort" at 3 months either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:27 PM
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why should they be able to "financially abort"? women can't do that. if they have a child and the woman doesn't want it but the man does, the woman must pay child support, she can't (and shouldn't be able to) "financially abort".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:20 PM
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i wish recognizing that it is an unfortunate reality is all they did— in reality, most of TRP does demonize women for this to the point of calling any woman getting as much sex as they wish they had a whore. signed, a girl who doesn’t even like casual sex but ended up with an abusive former incel who had these views
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:01 PM
1

yeah it’s accurate but the reason is that casual sex is much less important to women and they want less of it than men do. so when women DO pursue casual sex, they’re able to choose whatever men they want because there’s a shortage of women and a surplus of men who want casual sex. it’s not women’s fault that they want less casual sex than men, but men blame women for it and end up resenting them over time for it. this is toxic and it hurts the women they might eventually end up in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:51 PM
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of course the second scenario isn’t possible, i made that clear. as i said, that’s what it would look like if each gender got what they wanted without having to coincide with the other gender. that’s so we can compare to the “reality”, and see that the issue is that women don’t want sex nearly as much as men do, so in the “reality” scenario a greater number of them are satisfied. no, they find it frustrating and then they join a circle jerk pseudo cult where they “vent” about it so much that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:39 PM
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okay??? change “less control over our sex drive” to “lesser sex drive”. now is it women’s fault? no, it isn’t and never will be because we’re not responsible for your libido. argument remains the same so i don’t understand what your point was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 10:56 AM
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LOL yeah that’s definitely it, i have a white guy fetish. also when did i say it made me special? he said i only choose men depending on what “they can do for me”. if that were the case i would’ve chosen the guys in my dms, that’s all i indicated it’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 10:00 AM
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my dad loved my mom but he still beat the shit out of her. men who opposed women voting until the 1900s all had wives-- they probably loved them. but do you think they respected them if they didn't even believe they were capable of the "massive intellectual challenge" of politics? yeah probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 09:04 AM
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her point was that a majority of that "enormous" 30% you mentioned gets cut in over half for men ages 25-35. so lets take a look at your stats: Guys:[8,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0] Girls:[2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0] this is the reality, and the one that yields the same average for both groups. but lets imagine a world where men AND women could satisfy the full extent of their sex drive, regardless of the sex drive of the opposite gender. it would probably look like this: Guys:[10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10] Girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:48 AM
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aww, oh no! women go through a phase of sexual exploration during their adolescence sometimes! but like you said, it's usually a short-term phase! whereas men's desire for casual sex is so high that there's a much greater proportion of men willing to have sex at a given time than women! which means these women are able to choose men from a much larger pool, so they (like anyone else) choose the most attractive men for the purposes of this temporary casual sex phase!!! what a tragedy!!! there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 07:22 AM
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im 99.999999999% sure you're a man. women don't think that way-- incels THINK women think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:15 PM
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because sugar daddies are usually white. i get dm's from other races too but all the sugar daddies have been white. triggered?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:08 PM
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not on reddit obviously, on twitter and Instagram where i do have photos. yeah i can probably get most guys i want. but i don't like to hookup with random people, i look for a connection and a best friend in the person I'm dating. you wouldn't say "why are you sad your friend left the friendship, you can just friend another friend?". that's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:07 PM
2

have you never been in love before? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:03 PM
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buddy if you knew the amount of sugar daddy offers from rich white guys i get in my DMs you'd feel silly saying that. nice projection though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:02 PM
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mmm yes this is what im gonna be getting off to when i hit the wall https://ibb.co/stYDdx8
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:58 PM
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because unlike most men, we chose to be with that person DESPITE having many other options. we chose them over every other man who might have wanted to date us (some of whom may have been more attractive than them). the tragedy of being broken up with is losing our boyfriends not losing sex. because we see our partners as more than just replaceable meat sacks. wild concept, i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:52 PM
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