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sweet_samsara/r/MGTOW14/08/17 10:24 PM
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sweet_samsara/r/MGTOW24/06/17 08:01 AM
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Question for Womensweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:26 PM
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Question for Mensweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:31 AM
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Discussionsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 09:27 PM
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sweet_samsara/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:04 AM
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Discussionsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:31 AM
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Question for Allsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:02 AM
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Question for Womensweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:02 AM
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sweet_samsara/r/MGTOW30/10/17 11:17 AM
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Question for Womensweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 09:21 AM
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Discussionsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:11 PM
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Discussionsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 09:55 PM
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Question for Womensweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:38 PM
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Question for Red Pillsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:00 AM
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Question for BluePillsweet_samsara/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:20 PM
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sweet_samsara/r/MGTOW30/10/17 11:05 AM
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Only if I actually wanted children, which I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:52 AM
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I didn't ask if you shook hands with somebody and listed your degrees. I'm just wondering whether women think being a college graduate increases their value to the men they're after, because I'm starting to get that impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:54 PM
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Not sure where you got that impression. I never perceived a correlation between ambition and easiness. For me all of them were a pain in the ass to bed, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:03 PM
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When I learn a chick has goals and dreams, I listen intently. Not because I particularly care, but because I know it will increase my chances of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:57 PM
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Let’s assume you’re a guy, and you’re close friends with enough average looking dudes to make a conjecture. Do you think it’s more likely that all these guys feel actually satisfied by mediocrity, or do you think they’re maybe not so up-front about their problems to you? This is beside the point. The original topic was actually about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 10:53 PM
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They tell me how their lives are, and it sounds brutal to me. I feel the same way about average looking girls, they get shafted pretty hard also. Maybe not as hard as the guys, but it’s still not all sunshine and lollipops for them, it’s rooted in delusion more than anything. I’m just glad people talk to me and seek empathy from me, it gives me a huge amount of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:47 PM
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I merely stated that it shouldn’t be hard to be understand the situation adn be sympathetic And I said “so what?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 12:03 PM
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What I mean is whether he feels sympathy or not doesn’t matter in any practical sense except maybe to himself, so the expectation for someone to be sympathetic because of some unjust condition is meaningless (or at least I’d consider it so).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 11:53 AM
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Its not like the would-be recipients are missing out on something special but they are just not worthy of it. A person who feels no sympathy isn’t withholding anything of value to anyone except maybe themselves. Where people go wrong is in wishing things were different, not in wishing someone acknowledged their suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 08:34 AM
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Again, go ahead. I still think you're dumb and you're welcome to think the same of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 01:49 AM
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First of all, are you an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:22 PM
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Go ahead, I know you prefer to put in a ton of work, but in the end I think we’re fucking the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 06:57 PM
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MGTOW will grow significantly, prostitution will continue to be illegal but way more will turn to it. Women will continue making strides in their careers and not having babies, then it’s going to look like Japan with a bunch of old MGTOW and leftover women who spent their career money on plastic surgery in a final attempt, dying alone left and right and no one will give a shit. Enjoy the sick future, you fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:18 AM
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Mgtow tend to have no reservations about hiring prostitutes and not giving a shit what you think of it. I’ve tried suggesting that to incels as a solution, but they seem to identify way too much with “approved” ways or romantic ideals. and we laugh at them for being such weak ass pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 09:59 AM
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I’m in total agreement, I don’t blame women I just think PUAs are making a stupid cost benefit decision investing all this time and effort having sex with normal women instead of just fucking actual whores. It’s no different in my opinion, except when you fuck whores you get the best looking girls for minimal work. Wake up PUA idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:28 AM
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Hey PUA FAGGOTS learn from this! This is the thanks you get for devoting your time to hours getting rejected, struggling, research social dynamics, changing your mentality, working on your body,forcing your mind to release your attachments and fears. Instead of appreciation for that, you get a sausage metaphor to point out how they’d rather just give it to the dude that was born with it. Go your own way you idiots, wake the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:00 AM
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I offer: Good paying job, good looks, highly skilled in a few important areas, “manly” qualities, self disciplined, lots of life experience. Women should offer: good looks, doesn’t nag, doesn’t do shit to stress me out, isn’t in debt, isn’t a slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:27 AM
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Absolutely. If they can't hack real relationships in their own life, they could easily look at the relationships of people around them, but even then it's like they can't learn even from their own colleagues and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:30 AM
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Most incels have nothing to offer anyone. Where incels go wrong is that some woman has anything to offer THEM, except of course for a used up pussy and a ball of stress that comes along with the "privilege" of accessing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:03 AM
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how is prangent formed
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 03:41 AM
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Everybody wants to claim him because he's well read and articulate, but he's a tradcon. Which I'm fine with, I think he's great either way.
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 03:40 AM
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You can tell she shaves her unibrow.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 03:05 AM
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our movement you must be new here
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 01:34 AM
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Is it weird that like 5 possible answers immediately sprung to mind? lol
/r/MGTOW29/09/17 08:37 PM
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mgtow urban dictionary
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 09:49 PM
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If it was a feminist conspiracy, it fucking backfired. Sure, I don't like porn, but at the same time it just made me more MGTOW than I already was.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 08:01 PM
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It's nothing to worry about. Most of the women who come to /r/mgtow to complain about us are bottom of the barrel looks-wise and most likely post-wall too. They come here for male attention that they can never hope to get in real life anymore. Not even a disastrous dose of datura could mindfuck a man into giving these blue haired landwhales a nickel.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 08:45 AM
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huh. odd, I'm still here.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 05:01 AM
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It's not that I don't give a fuck, for something like this I'm actually thankful. Fewer parasites interested in latching onto me? Great, I guess I have less to worry about.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:42 AM
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Obviously it's not a guaranteed road to riches. Nothing is. The only thing it guarantees is freedom from having and wanting relationships with women, but yeah you make a good point these DO cost money.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:34 AM
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Awesome. It's not for me personally but I do see the value in these. Maybe someday I can help create these things and help men un-cuck themselves from women.
/r/MGTOW17/09/17 12:14 AM
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facepalm
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 11:12 PM
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If it helps someone imagine a bunch of dudes who want nothing to do with them as "actually really sad and lonely without us", who can stop them? Why even bother trying to correct them. It's not like we want their validation.
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 10:52 PM
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Except what we say is backed by studies, logic, and scientific theories, so yeah
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 10:36 AM
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Some MGTOW hate women, some don't. You can't begin to love something if you have demands for them. If someone demands money, attention, sex whatever you can't love them 100% selflessly. The same people who protest AWALT will claim that all MGTOW hate women without batting an eye.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 07:27 AM
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
/r/MGTOW12/09/17 09:29 AM
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Really is it all about hating No. help them identify a partner who treats them as a peer ? No. not taking into account how different culture has a different take at this point, we don't give a fuck about these kinds of excuses anymore MGTOW is really just a light that shines brightly on the hideous face of female nature, and we comment us of how repulsive it is, and we constantly remind each other that it's better to stay away from that and just live our own lives. It's nice how all kinds of wom…
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 08:41 AM
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Adblockers don't prevent your employers from seeing your browsing history.
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 04:01 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exL51n3py6g
/r/MGTOW09/09/17 11:41 PM
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So, do you have an actual context, or just "I'm not so sure"?
/r/MGTOW09/09/17 06:26 AM
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There is nothing more for me to learn. why are you still asking questions
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 08:20 PM
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pls respond
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 08:17 PM
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Beet red
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 10:14 AM
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Yes, no doubt human bodies can be considered pretty gross. A person who appears disgusting, old and fat is made of roughly same material that a person who appears to be beautiful. The material itself is disgusting, stuff like blood, bile, urine, saliva, mucus. Everyone is really just a different configuration and amount of the same basic material. When a woman gets wet, it's practically a lining of mucus. No one finds the thought of mucus to be attractive, but a bitch getting wet for you now it …
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 11:16 PM
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I never said anything was off limits but if you use weak language expect to get called out on it, mgtow or not
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 05:41 PM
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Fat men are undesirable. FACT. Let's just put it this way, a fat MGTOW will be up there with the rest of us, while a pussy begging chump will always be the bottom rung.
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 08:41 PM
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My current working model: life is the experience of the 5 body senses and the mind. I consider these to be the only ways in which humans take in and process information about their existence. Practically everyone will experience happiness and dissatisfaction to different extents. On a personal level, abandoning the conditions that produce dissatisfaction follows abandoning the causes of dissatisfaction itself, with the exceptions of aging, sickness, and death which everybody must experience. Wit…
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 05:18 AM
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but, but, we're all supposed to be incels who can't get women and could never discover how wonderful they are
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 02:18 AM
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Where there is money to be made, there will be people to provide what is demanded. Governments have always tried, and failed, to kill off markets while the only thing they accomplish is driving them underground.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:58 AM
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No. Women are pretty much the only thing one could ask with a straight face if anyone would be interested, if they lived up the miraculous standard of "not so shitty". But it's not like there's an alternative to women. It's either you take women with their shittyness, or you don't.
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 07:02 AM
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If their incompetence has no influence, your team is self sufficient and they're not needed. What I see most often is incompetence being swept under the rug and delegated to other people to solve.
/r/MGTOW25/08/17 02:07 AM
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A dog would, at best, be a band-aid to the deeper root problem. Luckily, it's possible to find what that is and free yourself from it.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 09:20 PM
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This topic reminds me of a quote by J Krishnamurti: “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” No mental illness here though, which is kind of ironic given the quote.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 08:22 PM
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already am
/r/MGTOW15/08/17 07:52 AM
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you can claim to be putting out an air of "dispassion" towards women I never claimed to be putting out an air of dispassion. I put out an air of casual friendliness towards them which is why people think I love their company. Really, I could take it or leave it. They just don't know that. To me, there really aren't rewards to reap from them.
/r/MGTOW15/08/17 03:50 AM
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If you're convinced that's the way for you, I won't try to stop you.
/r/MGTOW15/08/17 03:43 AM
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You know, this is actually a halfway decent troll.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 01:35 AM
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What a lame ass question. Why would we need to scientifically prove anything to anyone. If you're going to ask, at least provide some context.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 12:38 AM
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In short: freedom of your mind. The less often your mind is preoccupied with the desire to fuck women and the physical action simulating that, the more it frees up you up for things that are actually important, and the action of carrying those things out.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 01:28 AM
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Should have gotten a degree in Gender Studies, oh yeah then he wouldn't be working at google anyway.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 07:23 PM
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I saw some guys post about getting called gay It would amuse me if a woman ever tried to shame me by calling me gay, because I'd shut her up so damn fast. Especially here on the liberal West Coast, coming off as a bigoted homophobe would be a very, very destructive thing to one's reputation.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 07:19 PM
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Crying is considered a way of letting out stress, another primal emotional release is shaking. Animals tend to shake their bodies when they're stressed, rather than cry. If you have pent up anger or frustration but can't bring yourself to cry, never EVER hold it in! Just find some explosive shaking behavior. This is why people find that punching a bag is cathartic -- it simulates shaking behavior. Both are fine though. also don't think angry thoughts if you decide to punch a bag if your goal is …
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 11:56 PM
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If you want to work extremely hard for years but make decent money without too much debt go for a trade. If you want to work relatiely hard for 4 years in a white collar field that is actually useful, and then land a cushy desk job, go for college. Whatever you do, try not to don't fuck around too much while you're doing it.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 02:00 AM
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Why don't you actually say what you meant?
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 12:17 AM
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Invest in yourself. Most people invest in responsibilities that shackle them, but as a MGTOW you're smart enough not to do that. my bitcoin wallet is 1FnbaJMuCvj7DbanrzDMwDM91w8MUFPUYs if you really want to help another mgtow out
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 11:51 PM
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I don't know if a person can be incel and at the same time MGTOW. I don't think so. But yes, I agree with you that they could go from being an incel to becoming whatever variety of MGTOW works for them. It's more like a transition, but if they're not allowed here (not implying you advocate this, just OP), there's less of a chance they would transition.
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 11:37 PM
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yeah, just swap out "porn and hookers" for "erotic lit and vibrators".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 10:46 PM
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you said sex is as special as feces no I didn't. Please read that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:46 PM
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i think they're roughly equal, both are a form of genital mutilation. Also circumcision cuts the foreskin, not the wiener itself (holy crap that would be horrific)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 11:37 AM
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Not that I blame you, I'd have been fuming mad too. It's a skill to catch yourself in the heat of the moment. Wish you the best now that this is behind you.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 11:31 AM
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Yeah we do have differences here. To me the only possible objective truth is material. Opinions like "wasp stings hurt" or sexist views like "women are whores" cannot be objective whether you think they're true or false. Interesting, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:21 AM
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It is unsafe to speak these views IRL Yeah, maybe I should have included that caveat. It reminds me of a quote, Voltaire once said "To learn who [seeks to] rule over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 10:16 AM
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As I said several comments ago No I believe there is plenty of anti-female bias. As far as that bias being rooted in dishonesty, that's another story. and also, not to repeat myself again but my original comment Spreading views that other people insist are sexist but you honestly believe are true, that's morally neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:13 AM
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If I'm biased against wasps, it can be based on true belief that they can hurt you. I don't even need the evidence to be proven to me scientifically. There you have it: -bias against wasps -truly believe in my reasons to be biased -no scientific proof necessary, even though it might also have a scientific basis
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:10 AM
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No, why would I ask "honest, unbiased and scientific" if I just said "honest"? What's the use of putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 10:02 AM
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How many RPillers do you think there are that believe everything on TRP is the honest truth? I think a majority believe that most of TRP is the honest truth. How could someone believe something that they think is false, this is nonsense, by definition belief is an opinion that something is true. Do you honestly think there is no anti-women bias in TRP? No I believe there is plenty of anti-female bias. As far as that bias being rooted in dishonesty, that's another story. You can have bias based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:59 AM
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The last example, I don't think TRP is objective, is weak. The other 2 examples, yeah I think they are probably acting immorally. You said this though TRPillers generally openly say that they're biased and dishonest though. Out of those 2, neither one claims to being openly dishonest. You have 2 people claiming to be biased. This brings me back to what I wrote: Spreading views that other people insist are sexist but you honestly believe are true, that's morally neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:50 AM
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Because it's way too long. Also, I might miss it. Link me to the comments, or at least give me some names to look for and what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:22 AM
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I recommend you at least try to edit in a topic to discuss, I think there's some decent points to discuss in what you wrote. Here's one I could suggest, do purple pillers really tend to come from RP? How many people here do? You know, something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:05 AM
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i make them use a pocket pussy on me lol women are being demoted to pocket pussy holders.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:08 AM
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I'm definitely still in the hate/angry stage That's normal, you were most likely fed some lies. As long as you work on coming to terms with (and maybe one day find happiness in) the truth, you're doing fine. You're even free to vent here, especially if it comes with an epiphany about female nature. There is wisdom in anger, but only if you investigate it and you don't hold onto it.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:39 AM
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some of the best hamstring They're hamstring so well, even the most overreaching conclusions no longer seem like much of a stretch.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 06:15 AM
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It's probably from all your hard work spreading the word Tester8b. Good for you, you're doing something worthwhile with your life.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 04:38 AM
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Same. I'm actually trying to just give all this up altogether, but it's not easy.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 04:29 AM
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not one who thinks chinese cartoon girls are superior There it is. I will never understand what draws people to this moronic style of speaking. Why do you even do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 12:17 AM
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If you start by defining God as something that would have infinite benevolence, then by definition it cannot hate us. If there is a being that does hate us, then we can't call it God.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 10:45 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:15 PM
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Are you agreeing with me? I can't tell if anything you wrote contradicts anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 10:13 PM
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Actually, it sounds like we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 09:04 PM
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It's disrespect, really. At work -- tell HR first, and then nicely ask them to stop. If they keep doing it, tell HR again. Family, ask them to stop, if they don't respect you, start cutting ties. Friends? Same.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 08:50 PM
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Learn and practice. If I see a nice business tutorial I'll try to implement some stuff, if I find a highly rated programming course on Udemy, I might learn a new language or framework. I study Abrahamic and dharmic religions. In my opinion, learning something is the first step. It's like planting seeds that will grow into you actually doing something worthwhile, and practice is watering. And sometimes you just need to take a minute and chill, without needing to fill it with anything.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 08:28 PM
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yeah from a quick wikipedia search that seems to describe it pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 09:21 AM
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Dudes that don't have that much self confidence aren't getting called creepy by bombshells. Have you ever taken a break at a club and just people watched? Only like 10% of women are bombshells, you see men's standards right in front of you within minutes. The only ones not being approached are the seriously hideous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 06:48 AM
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Apparently shit tests are "flirting" now, so no I mistake it with them being an pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 06:29 AM
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well, there it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:25 AM
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I joined up to see how other guys who cares what you joined up to do, Poopsmith_McUnty's wants aren't anyone else's priorities. If you want to see guys living it up there's instagram I'm sure you'd love it.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 11:07 PM
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cue before someone tells you it's all "social constructs"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 07:34 PM
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lmao, brilliant
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 05:58 AM
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Don't use work or hobbies to keep your mind off them, that's just distracting yourself. Then you can never kick back and relax without thinking about women, you'll always have to run from one thing to another. Trust me. Guy above me guy hasn't walked this path.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 04:32 AM
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Think about it from her end. She maybe thinks you're a good looking, fun dude. She finds out that you're leaving your shitty job and her behind to make a future for yourself, for a job that makes easily average $90k-120k+ within a couple of years. That's security. That's a great provider for when she's in her late 20s and she's looking to fall back on someone else's income, a ticket to an easy life. If she fucks you now, will you remember her? What if she leaves you wanting, leaves a little stin…
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 03:58 AM
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It's in response to insecurity about your gf or wife. Every time you see her, remember this parable. She already has a warm creampie from some other guy nestled gently in her crotch. Just enjoy your time with her. As RPs would say, "it's just your turn, bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 02:27 AM
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That response was savage tho
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 02:15 AM
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By the point where they're forcibly drafting people men, who cares? Society owing you nothing also has a corollary to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 12:58 AM
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A single observation does not count as evidence, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:35 PM
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I am trying. Is Mike Pence evidence for the claims you made above?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:31 PM
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I can agree with this. Not much else to say I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:16 PM
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the work that women do needs to be valued So it be fair to say the condition that exists is that "women's work is undervalued"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:34 PM
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Look at theambivalentrooster's post. Men do not want nice girls -- let's assume that's true. Let's assume men ALWAYS want attractive women. Logically if they do not want "nice girls", then they must not be attractive. The shitty logic here is that nice girls can be attractive AND unwanted. No, if they are attractive they will be wanted whether nice or not. Nice girls aren't unwanted because they're nice, it's because they're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:18 PM
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OH MY GOD WE MUST DO SOMETH- zzz
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 07:28 PM
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ITT: bluebukakke
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:09 PM
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No supporting evidence, no elaboration, nothing except flat statements You mean unsupported, unelaborated, flat statements like these in the OP? we don't agree [with TRP] that women are mentally retarded ... TRPers are those that complain that they've felt ashamed for being a man ... complain that they despised masculinity before they swallowed the red pill ... assuming that we are just like they've been before they swallowed the pill ... desperately looking for reasons to get outraged over imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:02 PM
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All the funny comments get deleted by the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:44 PM
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Yeah, talking. I never never claimed to actually know if they were or not. But There seem to be more than a few red pill guys who suffer from Where do you get this impression, if not TRP itself where everyone's talking about HB8+s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:55 AM
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I said it must be ya ass cause it ain't ya face
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 06:22 AM
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Just a guess, but I think "not putting up with an ounce of bullshit from a woman" won't be a popular one among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:24 PM
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I also get tired of the waves of tradcon, so I don't blame you for getting frustrated over that. If another MGTOW wants to push tradcon ideas, I'll attack those ideas, not on his religion. All that does is piss of the Christian MGTOW that aren't pushing tradcon ideas (and I know there's plenty of them).
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 10:45 PM
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Yeah, they're being a couple of know-it-all twats over a semantic detail, on that we can both agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:34 PM
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Hey guys! We're going our own way! Hello? GUYS HELLO!! WOMEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY HERE L@@K L@@K!
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 09:06 PM
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no one has been drafted during the past 15+ years of wartime
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 08:13 PM
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B...but that's different!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 07:48 PM
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I do pretend to bond with women to get pussy and then I ghost them because I never felt anything, wouldn't you call that sociopathic behavior? Maybe next time someone accuses me of this I can just say "nah guys chill, I'm just edgy"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 07:28 PM
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on rare occasion by this I mean maybe once or twice a year
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 07:17 PM
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If he's willing to shoot for the least attractive women on the site, it can be. It just depends how low your standards can get before you hate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:40 AM
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Associating MGTOW with feminism is a pretty ineffective shaming tactic. If MGTOW actually made a concerted effort to change society, they might have a point. But MGTOWs couldn't care less, because there is no "movement".
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 04:05 AM
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I think this is part of the reason selective service records are even kept anymore, despite the low likelihood of something like an invasion, "flipping the switch back" would become a clusterfuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:36 AM
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One thing that does not tend to change for men is preference for younger women despite male age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:20 AM
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Introvert who can be extroverted in small group settings. Yoga bimbos tend to have a sweet spot when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:18 AM
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This is like the 5th post you've made kind of rambling on the same points. Are things ok with you?
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 12:48 AM
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ayyy
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 12:45 AM
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I agree. I actually had fun in my 20s too, now I'm in my 30s and I'm deciding I probably don't want to settle down in my 30s either. If I had gotten myself roped early on, I would probably have had to deal with a divorce by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:28 PM
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True, it is a dangerous game to play. You have to know your own limits I guess.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 09:36 PM
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They control most guys, yes, and I agree this is why men will generally continue to be controlled by women. Gaining control of your sexuality is a fucking monumental task, I'm going through it right now, hardest thing I've ever done by far, and only because I have to.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 07:46 PM
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So why/ how did this happen? It's probably a result of the market. You have dudes who don't care either way about male-only classes, and you have a significant number of women who need their women's only class otherwise they won't go. As you said, gyms need the cash, they don't care if they have to special treat a group of pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:35 PM
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Not typically before a first date unless you got someone off fetlife, but it's common enough that you can occasionally guess the ones who are without her having to ask. Of course, it doesn't always work perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:21 PM
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Full blown total bitch happen often enough, at least not on a first date. Nothing better than slightly bitchy attitude on a first date, usually those kinds of girls have a spanking fetish and just want their daddy to discipline them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 06:27 PM
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The reason most men are getting laid less is because they have turned into unattractive, fat, sacks of lazy shits. Do you mean less than women, or less than they were before? Obesity rates for men and women in the US are roughly equal, physical attractiveness is a bell curve for both genders (although perceived attractiveness might be a bit skewed, based on average bimbos rating men more harshly). Men work longer hours than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 06:07 PM
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Really interesting. This is so different from what happens to me when I take LSD or shrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 06:00 PM
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What do you screen for, if I can ask? This is probably not a surprise: physically attractive. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 05:46 PM
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I think such a low N count does away with, what, like 90% of adult women out there? I think when your requirements start to exclude huge swaths of the population, you're not doing yourself any favors. Also, I don't even screen for that when I date -- the reality is that men (myself included) are typically the beggars and not the choosers when it comes to dating, this doesn't really change until you start to provide some extraordinary value (fame, ungodly genetics, etc) as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 05:01 PM
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To make things interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:31 PM
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Well, at least that clarifies the feminist agenda to me a little more. Very interesting chat, I learned a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:54 PM
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Could you have en egalitarian society if men are mentally superior to women, or mentally inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:50 PM
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Maybe I'm just not asking clearly: Right now a TRP argues that biological realities are the reason for the type of patriarchical society we're in, namely that men are stronger than women. You object that he's ignoring the material reality that made this possible. Now let's say in the automated robot future, there's a feminist arguing that biological realities are the reason for an egalitarian society, namely that men and women are mental equals. Rather than just agree, would you object that she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:42 PM
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Let's say that one day we have robots automate everything and a true egalitarian society arises, men and women begin to make equal contributions to humanity. What would your reaction be to those guys who argue about it not being so much that women are equally capable as men, but that an egalitarian society arose because of robots? Would you also point to the shift from capitalism to robot utopia and argue that this aspect is being ignored, or would you say it's because equal capability of men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:32 AM
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I get what you're saying. Humans transitioned from a hunter gatherer society to an agricultural society. Men were stronger, so they hoarded resources. This gave rise to the patriarchy. Is this fairly accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:01 AM
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Very interesting to see how people think about these things. Going off your flair, you identify as an RP leaning woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:54 AM
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they stopped sharing the resources because they wanted a harem of women for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:49 AM
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And to clarify, these material conditions were food resources being finite?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:25 AM
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But you're still not answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:21 AM
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What would explain the difference in behavior? Why do you think women weren't the ones to hoard resources, and eventually enforce a matriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:15 AM
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What happened to the father? (feel free not to answer if it's too invasive)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:04 AM
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Feel free to link them, but I think a brief explanation is fine. So to clarify, it was men who hoarded resources, they practiced polygamy, and patriarchy emerged, right? Any thoughts on why it was men, and not women, who hoarded resources? If this society was as gender egalitarian as it seems, what explains the difference in behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:01 AM
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Ah, ok. Interesting read, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:56 AM
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Well maybe those RPs are conflating evolutionary psychology with biological determinism. I can't speak for them. ignores the material conditions that led to the creation of the patriarchy To be honest, I don't know much about this. Could you explain what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:54 AM
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I see evolutionary psychology referenced all over the place in RP. As far as "biological determinism",it just sounds like you're accidentally conflating evolutionary psychology with biological determinism. In fact, the only actual RP example you provided "women invite refugees because reproductive strategy is to get raped by foreigners" isn't biological determinism it's evolutionary psychology. Not that I agree with that assertion -- I don't think that many women actually want to be raped by Ara…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:43 AM
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Just curious, is this what you did before you settled down? You don't have to answer if uncomfortable answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:53 AM
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Thanks, that's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:31 AM
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someone who actively played the field and never wanted to settle down until now Interesting. Why would you say nah? What makes them bad LTR material, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:19 AM
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I honestly don't care, I assume every girl I date has been a little hoebag. As far as marry, the max would be 2, just another one of many reasons why I'm never getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:05 AM
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Already addressed in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:59 AM
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What are things that she could bring to the table that would earn her leeway?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:57 AM
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Actually I'd be down with replacing representative democracy with free market capitalism as a form of government. Instead of using a stodgy old congress, we can just make laws according to whatever makes companies the most money. Ohwait
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:47 AM
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Really the deciding factor is when you meet Maybe ideally, but this isn't always the deciding factor. In fact it's also a problem for many out there that they're with someone that they consider marriage potential, but they also see themselves as "too young to be tied down".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:35 AM
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What if they're in their 30s and want to settle down though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:05 AM
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Your priorities are interesting. People on the internet, eh? Look I apologize for coming off as a condescending asshole and trying to provoke you. I probably shouldn't have given my opinion if I wasn't willing to discuss it further, that was my mistake. And I didn't mean to imply that you're dumb or not educated, I know that's not true I was just saying it to get a rise out of you. I think we should just move on now, hopefully there's no hard feelings between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 06:13 AM
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i reserve the right to call you full of shit Yeah, you do. And I'm not the one complaining about it. responding by telling me you won't respond Actually I said this: we can get into a debate about determinism, but I'm not about to waste my time unless... and this: you're not versed in philosophy probably at all, so I'm not really going to continue this and: it doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about, I'm not going to waste my time so as long as I'm not discussing philosophy with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 05:45 AM
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This is about to happen in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:51 AM
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Good alopecia. Top of the receding hairline to ye, m'lady
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 04:32 AM
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This happens quite often when I debate people on PPD. I think they just get flustered and rage delete their stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 03:48 AM
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I wonder if I were to call this chick a dumb bimbo, if she'd start her next article proudly proclaiming "I've been told that I'm a dumb bimbo..."
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 01:54 AM
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Which guy though, are you referring to a video or are you talking about someone you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 01:45 AM
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Work a high paying but stressful job. Also, acting all macho, like a movie star or some shit. Gets tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 01:31 AM
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As far as I understand Chomsky doesn't identify as a Marxist even though he seems to acknowledge Marx's contributions to political theory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFXNnA3KqzA I'll check out Richard Wolf though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 01:14 AM
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Online not so much, but in real life it really matters to have a fellow MGTOWs back when possible and by the sounds of it you would.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 01:10 AM
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The only thing I really know about Karl Marx is that no one except a bunch of twats likes him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:54 AM
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curious what this would entail
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:51 AM
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No problem, just providing reference in case a debate is about to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:40 AM
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how i believe money and goverment finance work Just for reference, you originally said something like "Debt and taxes are collected to pay the debt"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:36 AM
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Legalize prostitution for beta bucks and nice guys and encourage their use. Sex really needs to be a common commodity, that way getting into relationships will be much less about having sex for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:25 AM
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I don't know if I'd point to feminism. I think the idea of the nuclear family and relationships is just outdated for many reasons and people are trying to find new things, but I don't understand the idea of placing blame on a single ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 09:05 PM
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Absolutely, it doesn't necessarily mean that, which means the assertion is neither categorically true or false just by itself. That's why you gather evidence and make your conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:34 PM
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Right, okay then. It's not my job to tell anyone how to dress, I'm also not going to tell anyone how to act. Rather just leave everyone up to do their own learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:18 PM
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half of her ass hanging out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 08:11 PM
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You know when a woman in her 40s dresses like a teen on spring break with half of her ass hanging out? That's what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:58 PM
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Obviously you're not going off on me -- I'm not the one who does it, I just observe what happens. If I had any observations of someone calling the cops on him for harassment I'd provide that, who knows maybe these women are too petrified to even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:55 PM
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You can tell from their body language and the voice tone, otherwise I'd really insist he stop because I'd be concerned it could get him in trouble. But these hoes probably think he's a good looking young millionare, we live in a place where it's not that uncommon. Yeah a man following you isn't really catcalling anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:46 PM
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My Chad brother drives around he catcalls every single 35+ milf he passes like a frat boy. He literally slows down yells "Heeey wWhAt's gOoOod babE" and they usually wave and smile or say "heeey" back. It probably helps to have a nice car. Moral: as you're attractive enough, any form of positive attention is welcomed by most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:29 PM
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saying "good morning!" or "how are you doing?" tfw you've been unknowingly catcalling my 70 year old landlady for the past 4 months
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:15 PM
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ya-huh, is too!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:00 PM
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I don't mind doing the leg work leading the relationship, although I'm admittedly NAWALT in that capacity. That's not something that AWALT describes. It's like saying "I don't mind taking the train but I'm admittedly communist in that capacity."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:45 PM
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Meh, they think it's worth it. For some of them it definitely is. The vast majority for whom it isn't worth it have their own rationalizations to be there. It's their choice.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 06:45 AM
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If I went to Bangkok I'd announce it on social media that I'm going for the prostitutes and that if they don't like it they can also suck my dick when I get back.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 02:42 AM
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Because you were talking about Buddhism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:26 AM
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I'm so glad I'm Buddhist :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:24 AM
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But you do. You go "hunt" at your desk job, you can have guaranteed sex if share some of the bounty with a village girl. That's a pretty good model. There's also the model where you convince a village girl that you're the only person you share your bounty with and she's the only person you have sex with, then she can decide not to be the only person you have sex with but you still have to share your bounty -- but this is for mentally retarded villagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:15 AM
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They would do quick peck on occasion, not really as PDA though, just at home. If I saw a middle aged couple "making out" in public, I'd just shudder and ignore it. Middle aged people are gonna die soon, why not let them have a little fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:10 AM
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Prefer basic bitches over what alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 11:16 PM
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Post your favorite rap https://soundcloud.com/xenosxstardust/xenos-renegade-ii-prod-by-cresylic (mgtow af lyrics) https://soundcloud.com/g59/elysianfields https://soundcloud.com/ramirez_187/twisted-metal-prodby-tacet https://soundcloud.com/monvlit/baker-feelin-like-remix-prod-monvlit
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 08:14 PM
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Women don't have to be supermodels, in fact 50% of them can be obese we can "cope" with it fine.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 08:10 PM
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Maybe if you live in a tiny town this would help. Also, everyone has their own views on police -- again telling MGTOW what to do is not a great idea. Great way to get people to bicker about police if that's your aim.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 07:40 PM
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Oedipus complex maybe The article mentions that. Incest porn also includes young women having sex with their fathers, or brothers, and considering men tend to find youth attractive, I'd say that's where some of it comes from too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 07:26 PM
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Actually all I said is you're not a NAWALT. If you think I'm reading you rambling because you chose an irresponsible husband, and your tradcon views, you're out of your mind.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 06:59 PM
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Siddhartha Gautama Marcus Aurelius Christopher Hitchens Harrison Ford Ron Jeremy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 08:00 AM
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Of course. What people fail to notice is that -- this is important -- what they fail to notice is that even when they make it easy for themselves and marry an average nice girl...there's still dissatisfaction. YOU . CAN'T . WIN .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 07:01 AM
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I didn't advocate for it, but it is an observation that's worth noting. It will happen, and there's a feeling associated with making that visual contact, it's dissatisfaction that arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 06:58 AM
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While I think you have the right idea, telling MGTOW what to do never, ever goes over well. imo that's a good thing though
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 06:54 AM
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It's a great idea, mgtow_general. Make it happen.
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 05:50 AM
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Well few how women are going to make a good wife, and fewer hot wifes stay looking good for long. Dissatisfaction is just a mark of being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 01:23 AM
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For real. We've all had that one chick who you genuinely wanted to like her because she was so caring and nice, but damn if she didn't look like a straight up gremlin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:42 AM
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Good for you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:27 AM
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Nice guys are swell. I picture a handsome guy who's a little shy, not too crazy, but nonetheless willing to go on an adventure and who'd probably get mad at her S.O. for doing stupid things, like driving buzzed or something. Nice guys. Get you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:12 AM
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attractive person with a genuinely nice attitude is unlikely to stay on the market long Yes, I agree. Except that's not a "nice girl", that's just a hot girl who also has a pleasant personality. "Nice guy" is pejorative for guys who whine about being nice but not getting laid, likewise "nice girl" is a term used for girls who rely on kindness to attract men but get upset when they're rejected by guys much more attractive than they are. The point being that neither "nice guys" nor "nice girls" ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:05 AM
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Even around here, I've seen a few RPs make valid points and then proceed to be destroyed by their opponents logical fallacies and misdirection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:07 PM
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pretty nope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:02 PM
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One is a huge waste of money and will get you thrown in jail if you're not careful. The other actually stays looking good.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 09:06 PM
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I don't, everyone's going around just convinced they know how things really are. I like to think the universe is just playing a huge prank on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 06:04 PM
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Generally speaking, most dating relationships will break up, with women more likely to initiate the breakup, and of the lucky few that even make it to marriage, around 50% of THOSE end in divorce, with women more likely to initiate divorce. If you mean most men and women are in relationships of fleeting satisfaction, you'd finally start making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 05:45 PM
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A women would never be in the situation to ask me that.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 03:05 AM
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Because if she doesn't, then women aren't wonderful effect doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:02 AM
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Depends, how much are time and effort are you willing to put to become attractive and fun for women? There is no "be" anything that you're not already, things like "attractive and fun" are not a lightswitch that you can be one minute and not-be another. You become it and that takes repeated effort and habit formation. If you're willing to put in a lot -- and I do mean A LOT -- then follow RP (if you need approval -- BP) strategy. If you're not willing to put in that much, prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:54 AM
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you got me :P
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 09:28 PM
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asked out a girl at my workplace wat
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 08:40 PM
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Viagra is covered, unbelievable. Baby boomers are such babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:48 PM
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laughed my ass off at this
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:58 AM
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That's fine, maybe I'll try posting it there. My superior brilliance is lost on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:46 AM
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To me suffering is suffering. Strip the man and woman of their body and they're just nervous systems with electrical patterns telling you things are bad, that you want it to change. So, at least to me, being a "small man" isn't going to change, just like being an "old woman". Same nervous system pattern of helplessness, despair, etc same amygdala, same limbic system making you feel like shit for different reasons, same patterns. The intensity of the suffering is often directly related to the int…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:33 AM
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That's a pretty good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:12 AM
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Agreed.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 05:11 AM
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This might be against the RP grain but I think you only really need to fuck a couple of them before you can start not giving a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:05 AM
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I think you understand men pretty well. If he's a certified mack though, he'd convince you he would never leave you for looking old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:47 AM
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Oh, definitely, you might probably got some good genetics! If all you wanted was a little reassurance you could have said so earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:39 AM
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Agree on contraceptives, but not paternity leave (or maternity leave for that matter). Although that's somewhat a different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:12 AM
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You're only 20. One day you'll snag a few hoes, you'll see how basic they tend to be, and you'll wonder why everyone makes such a fuss. Unless you're a bloop who learns to take what is not beautiful to be beautiful (a perversion of perception), you'll see it's not all it's cracked up to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:08 AM
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I can base my model on one internet person's hot grandma claim, or I can live in a major city and pay attention to how people look -- I think you know what I'm going to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 04:06 AM
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That's not tons of women though. That's a select few celebrity women who are constantly in the public eye, so they spend every penny necessary making sure they stay looking hot, in part because it's a significant part of their livelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:48 AM
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tons of women out there who look HOT even as they age What is tons? Right as a woman approaches menopause, her looks begin to really take a nosedive, on average, and usually quite a bit before that. But yeah with plastic surgery you can do a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:29 AM
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True, except at some point imagine having been a Chad on easy mode, then waking up one day and you're 5'11.5in and knowing you'll be called a manlet pretty soon. That's the kind of suffering women have to go through, it's just a different flavor of suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:17 AM
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I'm sorry man, but it's reality. For what it's worth I've also been on the receiving end of that at times, I realize it sucks almost as bad as being an old hag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:12 AM
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Shouldn't it be covered by ACA though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:54 AM
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Interesting, I might have assumed here. Are tubechtomies for women covered by insurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:48 AM
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Telling men to date old women is like telling women to date short guys. It might make sense, but no one is going to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:44 AM
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Nothing too scandalous. I know 1 guy whose wife had become "accidentally pregnant" and had the kid, and his wife had been cheating behind his back the whole time, so he doesn't know if it was his. I know another guy whose gf seems to be trying to pull this, she casually drops how she must have insane genetics because her mother was on birth control but she still had like 5 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:34 AM
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Lovely pics as always, Janice. I have terminal brain cancer.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 02:10 AM
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Basically. I don't know what these dudes are even going for. Their shaming tactics are so easily spotted and just get shut down so quickly.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 01:46 AM
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Also, it's hilarious how people apply nu-slang to Marxist jargon probably in hopes of making it a thing. Donald Trump is definitely not a burgie tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:34 AM
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You're not a deadbeat if she doesn't know you have children
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:11 AM
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I agree, but you still need to talk to them and convince them you're worth them having casual sex with you within a short period of time. That takes some level of social skill, or "game".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:05 AM
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Ah fuck it why not. Yeah I literally think I have omniscience, you got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:19 AM
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It's something no amount of plastic surgery and makeup can hide.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 11:36 PM
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what do things like being the best rubix cube solver, video game player, or taxidermist have in common? what do things like being a CEO, concert cellist, or elite mountain climber have in common? There is something in common with these that I can see, I'm just wondering if you're seeing any patterns here. What makes them meaningful or not meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 11:03 PM
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Maybe she just means successful at his job as a cashier at Old Navy, employee of the year 4 times in a row!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:20 PM
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Sure, I still like to clarify that "new money" is in a different economic class, so to lump them in as prole is misleading even though they might share values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:12 PM
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I agree, I'd add "new money" into that though. Prole and new money. Old money tends to be more stuffy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:35 PM
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What's a prole
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 08:32 PM
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this post is already not going the way OP was hoping.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:21 PM
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tell me what I have ever done wrong because of my gender? Nothing that I know of, but I wouldn't stick around to find out.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:20 PM
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If he had way more money than me but didn't look as good I'd consider that higher status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:11 PM
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"Nice tits" your flair says "purple pill man" though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:03 PM
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I got catcalled by an under-age girl (I'm sure she was like 16) the other day. She yelled "hey hottie" and I just kept walking. Then she kept yelling "hey hottie" over and over. It was more flattering than anything, the only thing that weirded me out was how this chick was fearless. I was looking pretty good that day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:01 PM
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Depends how high value SHE was to make up for the status. If she's high value I'd hook them up, especially if my boy is lacking in the looks department. But high value guy friend who looks decent can pull all kinds of low value girls without even trying -- I don't need to throw him a bone. Your guy friend doesn't want another lower status girl hitting him up, he's probably got enough of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:57 PM
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You just used feminism as an excuse to rant about Donald Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:16 AM
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They knew, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:06 AM
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yawns is that all you got
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:17 AM
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Some men temporarily occupy a dgaf attitude while knee deep in TRP, Ive seen that. Not me though, I only became more successful with women after I became MGTOW, and by then I truly didn't give a fuck about women. What a shame :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:12 AM
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It's not like submissive automatically means boring, or that assertive automatically means fun. Most women are a little boring on average, but an assertive + boring girl is just a pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 03:08 AM
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do socialists share their hoes tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:57 AM
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Go for the tangible benefits you can get out of it; you don't need to be a true believer Shut up, you're giving away my secrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:55 AM
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statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:53 PM
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As long as you have the commitment slut goods that women want from commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:52 PM
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For the most part I actually agree with you.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 06:43 PM
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derple pill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 06:08 PM
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having a relationship with them no thanks, you can do that if you want.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 05:24 AM
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make me feel both sexually and romantically desired So you want women to look at you and feel aroused, and to interact with you and feel aroused. This would mean...what? about you. It's something worth looking into. Take some shrooms and realize how silly being a human is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:07 AM
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I was addressing theismsamurai. We are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:00 AM
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a relationship Ask yourself what women offer you, and find alternate ways of fulfilling those wants. or experience what sex feels like Prostitutes will give you better sex than most regular women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:57 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:06 AM
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I can hardly follow your writing style.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:03 AM
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For both men and women, I don't think it's as variable as people say. Desperation (men) and utility (women) are the main reasons that I see for variability. Luckily for both men and women, I don't think there is a hard limit on making oneself more attractive, I think it's very much within one's control. For women there is plastic surgery and fitness, for men there is achievement, status-climbing, becoming more interesting, fitness, social skills, gaining fame, displaying wealth etc. I can't see …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:03 AM
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I suggested to watch less porn, not to stop fapping altogether.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 01:46 AM
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Good point, I could see that being the case too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 12:43 AM
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I don't think all women are dumb though. But there all all types of dumb women, so it works on all types of women, but that doesn't mean all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 12:01 AM
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It works on dumb women, which includes some feminist and some redpilled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 11:59 PM
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Maybe /u/IckyStickyPoo has sources that would directly contradict my claims. Namely she could prove: -women are better at leading than men (contradicts my claim that men are better at leading) -women are LESS willing than men to follow orders from male leaders (contradicts my claim that women are better at following) If she does have sources to prove the above I'll concede, but I fully expect any sources she posts to disprove other points that weren't even my main argument (straw manning).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 11:17 PM
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Agreed, they should fuck as many hot guys while they're still young and find a provider when they start to get old and crusty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 09:35 PM
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Yes, but where's the fun in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 09:32 PM
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I whip out my lettuce and wonder bread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 09:03 PM
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It depends. I usually find myself saying some variation of "that's very sad to hear", and then I might ask something relating to it, but I never actually say sorry -- it's perfectly fine to do so but to me it just seems lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:45 PM
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wild oats don't you mean roast beef?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:41 PM
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I stand corected, taken literally it does make sense. I guess I just have a strong preference for when "sorry" is used as an apology rather than a display of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:32 PM
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As a figure of speech, sure. But taken literally, it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:53 PM
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Doesn't TRP exist because mainstream advice is too BPed and not edgy and misogynistic enough for them? If I said BP exists because RP isn't pussified and spineless enough for them, how seriously would you take that? Hopefully you wouldn't, and vice versa. But yes, it exists in part because mainstream advice is too BPed. What's your point? Men's Health... Mark Manson...all kinds of men's magazines, blogs and such As far as a theoretical model for understanding BP mentality -- there is nothing. Pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:23 PM
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Spat RP game on a japanese chick, she sucked my noodle twice as good as any chick before her. Been a true believer ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 08:50 AM
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Lol your case fell apart Hey if it makes you feel better to single-handedly judge your own debate and declare yourself the winner, have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:57 AM
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your arguments are falling apart. Actually there's just nothing else for me to say. I'm satisfied with the case I made, I'm sure you're satisfied with yours. We're not about to convince the other, you have to end it at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 07:41 AM
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doesn't mean women in leadership positions don't exist in general And no one made that claim anyway. competent at their job Great, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:58 AM
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the collective experiences of the manosphere are evidence for it's truth and effectiveness A common justification for BP beliefs is that one person's single anecdote. It doesn't seem people in general, wether BP or RP, really care about discussing these topics using data sets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:16 PM
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It's odd how there's a multi-billion dollar industry around instructing men on social interactions with women, and it's primarily red-pilled. If the blue pill paradigm works as well as you claim, you guys are missing out on a huge opportunity to educate everybody else. If it works as you claim, the market would shift to blue-pill because men's loyalty isn't to some ideology, it's to whatever gets them results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 08:10 PM
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farts cheeto dust in your eye M'cuck
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 05:49 PM
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and applied it to all I said "many women", not "all".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:53 PM
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just because he's not treating her with kids gloves You'd be surprised how many times setting boundaries, stopping nagging, etc will elicit the response "Oh my God, you're such an asshole!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:47 PM
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Wait. So for this study they define "loser" is a guy who sucks at Halo 3 and a "winner" is highly skilled at Halo 3. Just for this study though, in the real world if you're highly skilled at video games you'd probably be called a loser.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 08:32 AM
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She was always really nice to everyone, even when they didn't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 07:33 AM
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I guess we'll all find out one day, or not.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 06:59 AM
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You're totally right, this is a shitpost. Well, at least the mods were chill about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 06:18 AM
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I used to torrent to try out tutorial videos like udemy type stuff. All the decent trackers have been getting shut down even some great privates ones that I belonged to, so I've practically stopped. Would love to be able to get back to tutorials, it was a great way to learn new things.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 06:06 AM
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If you look into Buddhist philosophy, I'd recommend to skip straight to suttas on dependent origination, imo that is the philosophical meat of Buddhism. Then learn about Nagarjuna's teachings on emptiness, which is an expansion of dependent origination. Most of the hardcore stuff can be found freely online, no need to buy anything except an intro to buddhism type book. When you understand dependent origination even if just superficially, it's mind-blowing. And to understand it profoundly, well y…
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 05:57 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ut9n964W8I
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 05:07 AM
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No I don't want to wear a diaper! Just leave me alone!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:53 AM
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I'd be the nicest person on earth to them, I loved my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:44 AM
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I didn't say anything about "choosing" incel. It's possible to choose not to be incel, that's what my reply was about.
/r/MGTOW02/07/17 04:30 AM
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MGTOW The exact moment I was convinced it was a MGTOW song
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 04:27 AM
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If that RP then what music would you consider blue pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:22 AM
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nice, but already been posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:49 AM
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The only time I've seen a woman who says she feels sorry for a low-status male, she said it in a "you're pathetic" kind of way. On the other hand, I don't think they necessarily should feel pity for low status men in general -- low status women receive a similar kind of disregard. It's low status people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:46 AM
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I don't know much about it except that it's a silly internet subculture that the young kids do. Thanks for the photos, wonderful as always, Janice. I have terminal cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:19 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx3kpa51EyY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:04 AM
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If it's an older woman and younger man, I'd say about 5-8 tops before I'll start making fun of them to their face. Older guy and younger woman, doesn't seem weird to me as long as the guy is good looking and she might be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:42 PM
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There was that one feminism transformers post that didn't get slapped down in 0.2s. You just need to get your timing right for when the mods aren't around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:24 PM
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"normies" the kekistani people have been under normie oppression for too long! I say, no more. normies GET OUT. reeeeeeeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 10:30 PM
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Dank means high quality, the origin of the word is from stoner culture.
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 09:42 PM
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, yes No, that's why I said "As far as I know...".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 09:07 PM
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InspiroBot being a little smartass
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 08:14 PM
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Women should be forced to wear thongs or stay indoors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:02 PM
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As far as I know it's the only weekly stickied topic. Don't worry, I'm sure feminists of PPD are working hard behind the scenes for equal gender representation of sticked topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:37 PM
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Who said "low effort" though? Feel free to quote me saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:25 PM
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dodging these hoes like
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 07:49 AM
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Eyebleach, right on cue. You're a good bot.
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 07:46 AM
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I'll probably adopt. Make sure to criticize his/her drawings if they don't have enough gender equality to your liking! Better yet, before they draw anything, tell them how they should draw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:39 AM
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evidence of women teaching other women to got for the best option I have no doubt that there is also social pressure, but I don't think it's mutually exclusive of wanting it also. It had to begin with wanting it. If women in the past hadn't naturally wanted the best available option at some point in the past, it would have never become codified as advice for further generations. As far as hypergamous behavior being a result of women teaching it to other women, I think the view that it's taught p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:28 AM
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What is the answer she provides? "Male is the default", is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 07:05 AM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 06:44 AM
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Are you just stating the obvious or is there a point is lost on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:59 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smVSzAflrvk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 05:02 AM
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Don't tell her the truth, she doesn't want to hear the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 04:24 AM
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you think insulting potential customers is a money maker, I didn't say that, I said there is a money risk in scripting a female robot who isn't a love interest. You're just genderflipping the worst of what the Ghostbusters remake did. The original transformers was never all-female that was switched to all-male. Not that I personally considered the ghostbusters flip an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 04:06 AM
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I didn't ask a question. Why does Hollywood believe these things..why...why Not to say the rest of your questions aren't valid ones -- they might deserve some exploration, but Lindey Ellis makes her question plainly clear right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfV7S5hfUo&t=5m29s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:56 AM
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ignores the fact
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:28 AM
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what suffering does it lead to Say you practice hypergamy and given the sheer number of choices, you find yourself unsatisfied with your best option. So you either remain with it, or continue trying to find it. So in this case, dissatisfaction is the suffering that it leads to. There is the case where even amongst the choice, you find someone that satisfies you. If you come to dissatisfy them, the suffering that hypergamy led you to this time is heartbreak or loneliness. If you remain together, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:21 AM
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Why are all the robots male Watched it. Lindey Ellis ignores the fact that Hollywood's first and foremost goal is to make money, not to "explore robot societies that exist outside the confines of gender". For money, yes. For the sake of it, nah. That's why, minimize risk, maximize money. There is a money risk scripting a female robot who isn't a love interest. Pretty lousy work for an academic if you ask me. There's no other explanation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:02 AM
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It's just a view I hold after applying Buddhist philosophy to myself and people I know. To me it's been the most reliable model so far. If I could find one more reliable, I'd replace it. To others, it's all a bunch of nonsense, and that's fine too. For what it's worth, I don't mean that it's all suffering. If you think of the practice of hypergamous behavior as a "path", then along the way there can be a lot of happiness along the path. It does lead, as an ultimate destination, to suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:31 AM
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Could you explain? What doesn't make sense that? It's just the way it turned out, I don't know "why". If you're asking why I don't change my current conditions to allow hypergamous behavior, it's because I think hypergamous behavior leads to suffering in the end, for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 12:41 AM
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Would I, yes. In practice, most guys don't have hypergamy as an option. I can open a Tinder account as an average chick and work my way down my best options. If I open a Tinder account as a guy, I'm going to cast my net and take what I get. My brain is hypergamous, but the situation doesn't allow for it. Nor do I think it "should". Hope that answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:15 PM
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Good, it's great that you were able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:54 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:49 PM
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I think the conclusion is correct, but the argument you present will be easily dismantled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:09 PM
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I don't believe it's impossible. Maybe you have transcended nature, I can't speak for you, but then you must know what an incredible task it was
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:54 PM
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Okay. Thanks for the interesting chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:33 PM
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No. If you recognize these as behavioral patterns, and you're aware of when they arise, then they can be managed. It doesn't mean these will necessarily stop arising, I'd expect you'd be managing them intelligently more than anything. I'd feel optimistic about being able to manage them, but the AWALT patterns of thinking will remain throughout your adult life. So feel optimistic about managing AWALT tendencies, but don't place your bets transcending female nature and having AWALT not apply anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:17 PM
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Improve yourself in what ways? Are you going to attempt to transcend the parts of female nature that AWALT describes? If it's even possible, it would be exceedingly difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:08 PM
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You don't need AWALT as a concept to limit you, human nature already will do it for you unless you rebel against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:50 PM
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pointless to talk about how things ought to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:27 PM
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you have to learn to be good at something Can you quote where I said you shouldn't learn? I just said if you're going to learn, do it the easiest way and this isn't it in my opinion. Again, if you can look at this and say it's the easiest way for you to get laid, I won't try to stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:10 PM
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Are you living in the 1800s? This is pointless. It's pretty clear I'm talking to someone who doesn't understand how modern militaries work, especially the US military. Look, even if I thought there were a chance to explain to you with facts how this is so unlikely, I'm pretty sure you're just going to try to dictate what would happen using nothing but baseless speculation as you've done up until now. You're not even engaging in the exchange of facts and ideas, you're pretending to be some kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:03 PM
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Yeah I agree. The only way I can see it coming across is to live your life as an example, and if they ask how, you tell them what you do and don't spend your time doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:35 PM
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I can't think of any female sex symbols On what planet are the men you listed "sex symbols". These are just famous guys, I can also rattle off a dozen famous women that are objectively ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:00 PM
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No, it's a result of women's want to have the best option available.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:56 PM
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To be considered attractive, looks matter for men, PLUS a list of other stuff too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:52 PM
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she believes that she actually doesn't have agency or responsibility AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:31 PM
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it's really doing exactly what you're suggesting -- finding the easiest way to get laid If you can honestly look at that and say "I've found the easiest way to get laid" more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:38 PM
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Haven't listened to mainstream trap for a while but shit sounding soft af these days.
/r/MGTOW30/06/17 09:20 AM
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Less effort to achieve a goal is preferable to more effort to achieve the same goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 09:12 AM
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How do you look at this and not say "fuck that". This level, that level, last month, next month, groups, public gathering, DHV. I'm sure you can make it work, but how exhausting, and and then what? It's just pussy ffs Find out what the minimal effort is to get laid with the type of chicks you like, put in that level of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 08:58 AM
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Always a classic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 04:48 AM
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Sometimes it's better when you can't. We often like the gagging sounds and coughing, especially if you whimper about how big it is. Just make sure not to eat a whole lasagna beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 04:46 AM
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Fuck her right in the pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 04:34 AM
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Kurdish women soldiers These Kurdish women soldiers aren't fighting the US government, otherwise they'd have been fucked a LOOONG time ago, along with the men by their side. big strong guys often tire out quicker Maybe you didn't read this. Women who fail combat fitness: 85%, % men: 3%. Interesting anecdotes though, unfortunately we're not talking about machine shops. Doesn't matter though, because half the time they'd probably be picking you off cleanly with a with an MQ-9 and a precision guide…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:50 AM
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It varies from person to person, but yeah. Porn throws a wrench in everything by offering a crazy effort-to-reward ratio, so much that it almost makes getting real pussy kind of pointless for many guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:27 AM
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I would never fuck a girl I'm not attracted to. That's because you probably have lower testosterone than other guys. If you're horny and especially if you don't have a sexual outlet like masturbation, it's scary how low your standards can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:21 AM
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Also good luck if this were to ever happen in the US. You'd definitely need it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:41 AM
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Blah blah you're delusional blah blah something about squirrels blah I'm so below average waaaaah. Cryyyyy me a river 😂 We both know you can't actually quote me saying anything resembling self-pity, otherwise you would have done so. But I'll give you this, you lost this argument with style.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:33 AM
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Still speculating...really hard this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:49 AM
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Feel free to quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:45 AM
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Who's wallowing in self-pity though? Quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:42 AM
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what I meant I'm not interested in discussing YOUR personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:35 AM
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Develop abundance mentality innit, yeah you might have missed this let's say you're a below average male in your late 20s. You've never had much casual sex, because low value men don't get a lot of casual sex. and also when I said this This strategy works great if you're young and decently attractive. Sure, "abundance mentality". Doesn't mean "be delusional". A below average late 20s guy who doesn't have much sex isn't going to have "abundance mentality". I'm not interested in discussing your pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:14 AM
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someone you care about>>>>> STD ridden strange Just fuck licensed prostitutes if you can't wear a condom. The chance of her having an STD and be allowed to continue working as a licensed escort is lower than the chance of a girl cheating on you with a guy with an STD and passing it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:09 AM
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I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 11:54 PM
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The more time you invest in one person, the less likely a person is willing to walk away, the more fear there is of her being the best. If you're not looking for a marriage, it's a good way to "change your mind". Sometimes that's great! And sometimes you realize you played yourself. Except you don't have to play that. If you already know you don't want to marry, you're a sucker if you're LTRing. Luckily most RPs know this by now it's like preaching to the choir.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 11:49 PM
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start by working out Eh. I'd skip straight to hookers if I was still in the game. Men don't need to do anything differently to gain access to the hottest women for sex, unless you want something long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 11:07 PM
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This strategy works great if you're decently attractive. Except: So, let's say you're a below average male in your late 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 11:02 PM
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You said Miranda and Jackie O had a weird face. I'm asking who's BETTER not who is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:30 PM
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who is better without makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:26 PM
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Without makeup though? I have no loyalty, show me who's better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:25 PM
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You're in speculative territory. The best historical example you could provide was a hunger strike. Men sure as hell aren't taking up arms if women aren't doing it for their own cause. Maybe American women will suddenly grow balls the size of Texas and actually will pick up an AR-15 against world's the most intimidating military behemoth. I'm not going to believe it until I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:22 PM
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In writing, no probably because it's difficult to argue rationally. Based on their actions, yes. Many women, and by extension this includes a large part of bloopers, have a tendency to shift blame rather than accept responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 10:02 PM
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Hunger strike is a form of protest, not a civil war. Exactly what I said. At least in the US, there would be protest but not civil war.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:52 PM
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Do you believe there are roughly the same number of men and women in each tier? i.e top, above average, average, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:44 PM
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At least in the US, there would be protest but not civil war. Who would give their blood and life for the cause. Women? On the other hand, imprisoning political opponents has historically been the mark of a country destined for bloody conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:41 PM
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Why risk a bloody civil conflict when you can tell women to shut up and get back in the kitchen? Of course, not my views, but probably the views of anyone who wants to end women's suffrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:21 PM
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The point is that women don't need to do anything differently to attract a quality mate Wrong, wrong, wrong. Women don't need to do anything differently to attract a mate, that's a given. But a "quality mate" isn't a given for women, otherwise you'd see every woman out there with what they consider "a quality mate", all while their fupas flap in the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:00 PM
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I didn't say I hated it. I'll just quote myself here: Realizing that human nature is horrible more often than not doesn't mean I have to hate humanity. It has the potential to be beautiful more often than not, someday -- but right now it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 08:20 PM
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Simple solution would be not to hide it. The truth is they weren't born naturally beautiful, make the truth known.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 08:15 PM
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The kind of men women want, aren't going to put up with crazy for very long. But yeah, by itself it's not enough, nor should it be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:37 PM
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imo the real problem is that not enough women even TRY to live up to male standards. Some women already work out and get plastic surgery on their acne faces, get some therapy to help with the crazy. We just need more of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:23 PM
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I judge women's physical beauty by how they look without makeup. Definitely VS model Miranda Kerr is near the top of my list.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:34 PM
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why not just go all the way and ban the left Isn't it obvious? Women would still be constituents, and smaller candidates on the right would immediately pander to the newly disenfranchised women to win elections. The candidates who would win would be the ones who pandered the most to women. Eventually you'd just end up with the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:13 PM
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I'm not even sure anyone's trying to argue this. Of course it's ok for a man to have as much sex as he wants given that it's consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 04:53 PM
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It varies from person to person. I could also go around saying that people entering highly conditional relationships thinking it might lead to lasting happiness is a very sad thing. But I normally don't, because to them it is. Why not just let everyone do what they do, you're not them, they don't think the way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 04:13 AM
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Yup. Holy shit I'm agreeing with a blooper.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:06 AM
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It doesn't mean that women aren't responsible for whatever bad choices they make -- they are. I don't think that's what you were saying, but it might accidentally be interpreted that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:02 AM
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Yeah, you have a point. We have to trust dumb nature to keep this going until we can consciously engineer our own societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:33 AM
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lots of birds die never having reproduced. That chirping you hear birds do isn't because they're so happy that it's nice and sunny outside. The animal mating world is many times more unforgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:30 AM
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Because the asker asked about female nature. I love humanity too, for the struggle its had, continues to have, and for its potential. Realizing that human nature is horrible more often than not doesn't mean I have to hate humanity. It has the potential to be beautiful more often than not, someday -- but right now it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:14 AM
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I think humans naturally ended up with stronger tendencies towards the darker sides of their psyche, probably because it was rewarded for survival earlier on. Things like greed, hatred, selfishness etc. It isn't to say that women can't be compassionate, generous, wise, etc but as I see it these are things that the she has to learn and continually develop. Same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:06 AM
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Women chose whatever qualities in a man breeds best, men chose whatever qualities in a woman breeds best, to the best of their ability and this is the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:58 AM
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Female nature can be considered horrible, but men didn't shape women. I don't think women are at fault either, although they are the ones with the reproductive power. Nature chooses whatever is more likely to reproduce again, not what is going to be most agreeable to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:48 AM
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I have known a few stable, long-lasting marriages. It doesn't discount that AWALT. All humans are a certain way. Humans have a strong tendency to want the best, that includes maximizing the value of their mate -- hypergamy. Humans have a strong tendency to feel guilt when they do bad things, which is why people rationalize their shitty behavior. Humans tend to be self centered and self service, they want to be admired, which is explains attention whoring solipsism. Some behaviors are really that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:28 PM
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I'm not even into politics at all, I don't like Donald Trump but I was still subscribed for the memes. If Hillary Clinton had something similar I would have subbed to that too but sadly Clinton supporters were a bunch of boring cunts with no sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:45 PM
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Of course it would be! Less suffering means a better world. I think the only group of people who actively tries to help incels is TRP by encouraging them to achieve, and MGTOW by encouraging them to let go. Everyone else just takes a big shit on them, often under the guise of "just trying to help".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:24 PM
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Yeah, branch swinging is for women only. Know your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:17 PM
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That isn't entitlement. This is sex being so available to women that they can take it for granted (because it is), but it's just a result of measuring success by how many women he can have sex with. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like if women needed to have sex with a lot of men for social recognition, and there was a male version of slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:44 PM
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The only explanation I can think of is that his cucker lady makes him post indefensible arguments to RPs and then she gets off reading the comments of him humiliating himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:03 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 09:17 PM
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They sometimes hit up their orbiter for favors while you're out with them, call them out on it. Instead of it being some great revelation, it's his fault for being upfront and she's doing nothing wrong. That night, you take her back home and you apply a little extra punishment when you're throatfucking her. Get a few extra tears going, she deserves it and needs to make her feel ok again and wash away the guilt that she's suppressing inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 07:53 PM
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Nah, whining is feminine, complaining is feminine. That's why you mostly see women and feminine non-RP men making posts like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 07:13 PM
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For the second time, I'm not arguing that women won't get them. Many will. My point is that women are already a secondary market and it will remain that way, just like men today are a secondary market for conventional sex toys. When you look at the people with sexbots, it's almost entirely male with a few females in the market. Men's market share for bots eclipses women's, and it will continue to do so in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 07:06 PM
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I agree, in the end it is technically just a piece of plastic. Any thoughts on the Harlowe Wire Cloth Experiment? Do you think there's something wrong with the wiring going on there (edit: excuse the pun)? I would argue that in this case the wiring working fine, maybe a bit too well, and it's the constraints that lead to adapting for the next best available option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 05:26 AM
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If betas that are in it for the chats, agreed those guys are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:45 PM
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Here let me get you a tissue. Have you ever seen the Harlow Wire Cloth Monkey experiment? It's an interesting one. This is what these men remind me of. Yeah it's sad, but what's even more sad is a monkey who doesn't even have a wire mesh with a piece cloth around it. I feel a little happy that they get at least that, even if it's not the real thing. Why not turn that smile upside down?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:08 AM
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I would approach a butt factory if I saw one too, if anything out of curiosity about where all these random butts are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:51 AM
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Yeah you did. They want sex bots to be ubiquitous, and thus the demand for men will go up. No, they just want the sex bots, and they'll take VR too, and women's demand for men is irrelevant, as we've already established together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:07 AM
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That would be great. Hopefully women are as receptive to VR and sexbots as men seem to be. Right now I'm not seeing that, but hopefully that changes for them so that women can be happy too. I guess time will tell. It sounds like we agree, men aren't creating VR bots to increase female demand as you originally said. That will be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:49 AM
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That makes my point even better. With sexbots or VR, what would it matter to men if demand from normal women goes up? Who cares what women think once that happens? The point that men are creating bots (or VR for that matter) to increase women's demand for them just doesn't add up. To me, these inventions will render women's demand irrelevant. At worst it would be a side effect that no one really cares about, just as no one really gives a shit that men want women right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:31 AM
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Your counter-arguments are heavy weak though. First case in point: Grace Jones, western supermodel, not considered conventionally attractive. The idea that a super-model will necessarily be found attractive according to her locale is bunk. The second counter-argument is a non-sequitur. Why would being Justin Bieber's GF necessarily make you a 10, and how does it logically follow logically that being Mark Zuckerberg's wife a 10? Too many leaps in logic here just presented as self-evident facts wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:13 AM
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Yeah, I agree. As I've said before, it's too bad that it's come to to this but as I see it, bound to happen now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:36 AM
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I believe you. The hamster wheel is strong though, some people feel guilty and then find a way to rationalize it, and I mean both guys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:38 AM
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Ok one last question, do you think most betas and incels, low value men, etc would buy a bot assuming they are affordable to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:12 AM
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I'm honestly trying to see if we have common understanding on certain things. Do you agree that youthful looks and beauty are near the top priority for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:35 AM
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That's ok you, can use parody laws to get around that. You just have to make the Tim Tebow bot like 4 feet tall and have tiny hands
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:20 AM
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I promise not to. Actually I agree, these men do want women at the moment. That's the reason this is even happening to begin with imo. Men appreciate a lot of things in women, but youthful looks and a beautiful body are a top (or near top) priority for most men. Do you agree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:09 AM
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If I'm selling cars and no one wants to buy, I'll want customer demand for cars to go up. He wants customers, right? Now, say I'm trying to offer yself, but no woman is willing to take me. I'll want woman demand for me to go up. Because I want women. Is this what you're getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:39 AM
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We are at the premises. Men wanting demand by women is part of your premise. So, what do you suppose that reason would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:26 AM
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There's honestly never been a PPD post of mine that doesn't devolve to something like this. I just can't help myself lol it's too funny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:29 AM
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Maybe you're right. It would be nice if it never got to the point where men felt the need create these, but that's where we're at now. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 02:02 AM
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I mean it might be true, but that's some harsh words. Pets can be considered parasites or just cute friends. I think women have earned their rightful place in the future, similar to being pets for men. I really don't think its necessary to wipe them out at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:31 AM
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I'm all in favor of manbots for women. Uglies, fats, and girls with busy lives need love too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:04 AM
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Lol how on Earth would you convince middle 40% to settle with (much less compete for) leftover wives and single moms, especially when a much more appealing alternative exists? Same would go for prostitutes, they'd be practically done for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:00 AM
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Hey, if she's paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:47 AM
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A fragrance free soap couple. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:08 AM
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This is where you start to build businesses around the industry and make a few bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:01 AM
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No, I mean they'll call women bitches and hoes straight to their face, you know, to berate them for stepping out of line. At this point you might have gathered I'm not interested in the comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:02 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:48 PM
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Sorry to have to repeat myself, but again, I'm not asking a relative question here. "More likely" doesn't come into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:47 PM
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Based on your observations, do the behaviors of natural alphas tend to be consistent with the "women are wonderful" bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:45 PM
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I'm not asking whether it's more or less so relative to any other group, but as a stand-alone statement. Do natural alphas tend to have a "women are wonderful" bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:42 PM
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So natural alphas tend to have "women are wonderful" biases. Is that a "yes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:36 PM
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Are you saying "natural alphas" tend to have a "women are wonderful" bias whereas terps tend to have misogyny bias? Just getting some clarification if you don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:28 PM
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Regardless of standards, advertising commitment + cash does help when it comes to single mothers. Of course that guy can usually land himself something better than a single mother but it's easier pickings for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:33 AM
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I've only made a small bit of progress with this personally, so take it with a grain of salt, but jhana meditation is one way. From what I hear just takes years of focused practice to attain equanimity of mind, the 4th jhana, by then you'd be considered an enlightened being. Luckily the first jhana is "pleasant sensation" so it's like getting a nice massage, so it might be worth just giving first jhana a shot and deciding if you want to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:18 AM
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You're saying you might be a sociopath and asking if many of us have looked into it. That's your job tho.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 07:26 AM
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MGTOW also frequently respond to those rants with advice on how to move past the "rage phase". To be honest though, while there are some who try to manage relationships I suspect the majority of them would claim to be they feel better off single. There seems to be a lot more apathy mixed with a bit of weariness of women, rather than emotional rage over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:03 AM
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yeah peep the 'new' tab, it's completely gone as far as I can tell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 06:00 AM
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This post, it says [removed] and it's gone from the listing. I think that made this an orphan post, so it would be floating around somewhere but no one can see it so you're probably not going to get more parcitipation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:58 AM
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Why did you delete your post? it was an interesting question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:54 AM
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Regardless of high or low value -- minimal effort is the most rational if the goal is to get laid. High value will get laid with minimal effort, low value guys can just spend a few hours worth of their paycheck on a hooker. Again this is just if you want sex and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:41 AM
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caveat: single mothers and you have money
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:12 AM
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Just my opinion -- solely on the man with a few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:43 AM
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X2 on articulating what you really mean. After a while you get fed up with this line and you just want to "take her" downstairs to catch an Uber home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:32 AM
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Yeah, these are so common they might as well be cliches. Surprisingly body issues don't seem as common as I would have expected. Men are definitely sexualy broken as fuck too though. In many cases porn seems to be linked to erectyle disfunction or premature ejaculation, and I'm sure a host of more subtle problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:25 AM
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Yes. But if you change your mind about commitment right after having sex, it's not your fault. Just as you're never entitled to sex, she's never entitled to your continued commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:39 AM
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Look at what women do, not what they say. Girls who are 8+ on the looks scale can get any "preferences" they want. Look at what type of guys they get with. Assume that these women have diverse preferences for height, masculinity and personality and try to prove it to yourself that it's true. Your sample size over time could be in the thousands especially if you live in LA or NY. If you look at girls who are 3-7, you get a lot more variation. You're looking at more and more women who had to tone …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 01:28 AM
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Look at what people do, not what they say. Girls who are 8+ on the looks scale can get any "type" they want. Look at what type of guys they get with. Assume that these women have diverse preferences for height, masculinity and personality and try to prove it to yourself. If you look at girls who are 3-8, you get a lot more variation. This is what women will point to as "preferences", to me it's clear they sacrificed on a few of those preferences that were a bit unrealistic for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 01:24 AM
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Are some people immune to gynocentrism/lookism/ageism? Yes, completely. It's something that a person has to develop, and they need a reason to. They are so few that they're not even worth discussing. Many more people will claim to be than will actually be. Why is gynocentrism/lookism/ageism so profound? It's a meaningless question. What other people do is meaningless. If you see gynocentrism it as a problem (I do) changing yourself matters. Why can't we just get past it There is nothing to get p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 12:50 AM
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Say what you want but toilet rat is the perfect random inconvenience to out of something last minute. Ah, sorry I can't go. I forgot to put the toilet lid down now there's another rat loose in my apartment. Yes, again. Look I don't have time to explain, bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:57 PM
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the commenter above was probably being sincere, though. no reason to think otherwise. I don't know about that. While saying you feel sad for someone can be sincere, I also commonly see this as a tactic to patronize someone. That's why I wanted to verify before making any assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:14 PM
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What's more tiresome is watching you just call everything a strawman even when the fallacy doesn't apply (btw that's an ad-hom argument, not a strawman)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:03 PM
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From the way people seem to be describing it, BPs cherry picked RP advice that they didn't find too objectionable and tried to claim it as their own. Making connections and earning a good reputation (social proof) was RP advice long before BPs emerged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:02 PM
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Negotiate. But she has to keep the ball-gag on and make her counter-offers via naked pantomime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:28 PM
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The only thing those women are going to backslide into is a sofa and a cat that can't stand her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:12 PM
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How is a shift towards tradcon considered being liberal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:00 PM
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All I can say about feminism is I've noticed a shift in fairly big name feminist youtube personalities towards tradcon views. Comments in the media about a harkening back to 50s roles. Feminism is finally gaining some entertainment value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:13 PM
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I do it for the amusement. It's not like I'm under testimony and all my quips need to be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:44 PM
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Just do her in the butt. At least then the worst might be the sound of her farting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:20 PM
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I'll try harder next time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:14 PM
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It's just fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 05:45 PM
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The universe isn't imploding on itself and you're not yelling at me in German.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 01:35 PM
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Nope. It would be like fucking a corpse or a girl from the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 01:29 PM
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You know what happens when you divide by zero? Neither do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 01:05 PM
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She could be reciting a Hitler speech verbatim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:59 PM
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By point we're not going to fuck, so might as well ditch her and just smoke a few bowls with your buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:52 PM
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I mean the good kind though. The ones that dudes will actually want, they're still decades away. Sorry m'ladies you're stuck having to swat away all of us annoying short, niceguy betas until then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:44 PM
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Shame you didn't find my replies as amusing as I found yours to be. Also, snarky MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:21 PM
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You see a lot of these ladies at buddhist meditation centers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:09 PM
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What story? Was there a thread? Do you "feel sad" for him in a sincere way or in a "you're pathetic" way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 11:58 AM
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I don't even piss in the toilet anymore. To avoid arguments I just keep the toilet seat down and piss in her sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 11:45 AM
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I'll take loneliness over a girl that looks average and can't keep her mouth shut any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 11:27 AM
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Looks good, doesn't talk a lot. Can't wait for sex dolls to hit the market tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 11:18 AM
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okay, as if graphically describing her getting brutally throatfucked was't humiliating enough for the poor girl. You're a real piece of work, you know that Smurf ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:56 AM
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Still a religious fanatic. I'm not looking for help, I'm a true believer. I don't want it, as I said -- not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:26 AM
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Thanks for being a good sport victoria I could have sworn I'd be banned for another week for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:25 AM
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True story, I became somewhat of a religious fanatic and it doesn't give normal, healthy romantic relationships much of chance in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:23 AM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:35 AM
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Not for me, but as long as it makes you happy, I won't knock it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:29 AM
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Cool thanks for the honest answer. Could you elaborate on what made her a good woman and a great catch? I'm not questioning it, I believe you btw just want to know what they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:18 AM
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Physical time aka sex type things. Not sure why the ramble that precedes it but yeah I get where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:12 AM
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Think you can hook me up with a sloppy bj from /u/victoriaxrose? I'm talking running eyeliner and snot everywhere, puffy red face type of thing with weird throat sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:07 AM
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Thanks for the one decent reply so far
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:05 AM
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Ok, what have you liked of the variety of women you've been with. Can you list a few of the qualities they've had?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:48 AM
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why are we not having a threesome yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:42 AM
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Funny woman alert, paging /u/SmurfEsmurferson yall might want to have a good cackle together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:34 AM
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Finally! Now that wasn't so hard was it? OK so didn't do any of this for women. I'll respect what you say, I can't speak for you. What do you like about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:29 AM
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Just because it makes some RPs uncomfortable doesn't make it a stupid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:25 AM
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okay, WHAT though. What have you done to become this "attractive person for you not women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:10 AM
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Ok, what have you done to become the type of man women want to be with then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:23 AM
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What makes you think it's a stupid question?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:20 AM
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literally shaking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:17 AM
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You are to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:14 AM
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Wow, lots of BPs really not liking this thread. Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:13 AM
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PUAs don't go for ugly chicks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:07 AM
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My question as if you were fucking 90% of the guys in your high school. Obviously the answer is "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:30 AM
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Men can and do form completely platonic friendships where they're not attracted to each other. So there's little misandry between men because there is honest comradery between men. This rarely happens between men and women. Most of the time she's worth fucking first so we find out if she can be a good "friend", or she's not fuckable we'd rather have nothing to do with them. We just have to lie about this -- a lot -- if we ever hope to get laid. That's why there's so much hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 04:50 AM
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Justice for RPers doesn't matter. Most RPs realize that women have WAY easier time having casual sex when they feel like it, and regardless of this realization, they are still willing to bust their ass doing RP type stuff without much thought to how unjust that may be. The other day I made a post on why RPs are willing to accept women who never had to exert themselves to get with them. It's because they don't care -- to them that's just the way it is and they're willing to live with that. RPs ge…
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Ah, the revelations of the digital age. So beautiful.
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 08:53 PM
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You're saying you fucked 90% of the guys in your high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:13 PM
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If they tried like their life depended on it, 90% of men would be dead tomorrow. Most of those who "got lucky" would have lucked out with an uggo. Also, I love the question dodging and rationalizing in the thread.
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My half brother whom I'm pretty close with is a 100% stereotypical jock Chad, I'm pretty much the opposite as an antisocial computer nerd MGTOW. He has plenty of stories of fucking college chicks (high-fiving his buddies mid-act, which cracks me up) and then them demanding commitment from him. But I think the most interesting stories are about him and older women. Older women (~35) tend to come on very strong when it comes to Chads. He's happy to pump and dump them, use them for cash, whatever. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:50 PM
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It was from Molyneux that I learned that a person's values are largely determined by their circumstances. If you're a married guy with a wife and daughter who will have access to all your publicly broadcast thoughts about women, of course he's going to be blue pilled.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 06:01 AM
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Because you're still repeating the same red herring. The point he's making is "higher quality". Reducing what he said to a single sex act that you proclaimed (not him) and then criticizing that is a common sophistic technique. His evaluation of "higher quality" includes multiple characteristics, he explicitly lists 3, so even reducing it to "kinkier" and debating as if that's what he meant is disingenuous. Your argument has been bullshit since the days of Aristotle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 03:23 AM
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How is it that someone can mention a red herring (anal) and everyone just flails about instead of calling it out for what it is -- misdirection from he original point. OP said the sex is higher quality (kinkier, more enthusiastic, etc) with other dudes, not that she did anal once and now doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:17 AM
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This is a pretty broad statement. What kind of plastic surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:01 AM
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I don't see what is so bad about trying to come up with more PROs for marriage in this CMV format. I guess other than there not really being that many, and the truth having to be explicitly spelled out for everyone to read, and people getting upset over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:42 PM
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Primates have predictable social and sexual life patterns. Humans are primates. Humans have predictable social and sexual life patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:26 AM
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Platitudes don't really make for meaningful conversation. Here's a thought though: becoming the best version of yourself is an "ideal". Because there is no pragmatic single best version of oneself. And if you aim to a "best version" ideal, you hold an idealistic view.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:21 PM
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"Being" and "becoming" are different things. It's not like a person can just flip a switch and "be" something, it's a process where they "become" something. "Become a more desirable version of yourself" could be considered even more precise, but as the language gets more precise it starts to sound less and less idealistically appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:59 PM
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I don't know why it's important, and I agree. It just happens that way, girls prefer a guy who can do stuff over a guy who can't. I don't mean promise them future status, but they would rather be involved with someone who would achieve their idea of success as an adult, but I don't think this is done consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:34 PM
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From the article women can be characterized as thinking "I am good and I am a woman, therefore women are good" whereas men can be characterized as thinking "I am good and I am a man, but not necessarily are other men good" Oh, so men can be characterized as thinking logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:19 PM
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Male High school: 2000 student high school in an affluent area. Experience: Completely ignored freshman and sophomore year. Lots of interest junior year when I discovered PUA and I started getting in shape. Lesson: Just be yourself is a lie. Be good looking and have game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:58 PM
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She does make a point but it's a bit rambly. Here is the pared down version of what she says: Average "beta" men suck. Women want hot alphas, ideally for sex and commitment. While hookup culture doesn't guarantee commitment from alphas, it does allow average beta women to fuck men out of their league (relative to their SMV), so it's an improvement and beneficial for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 06:12 PM
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good head game
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:16 PM
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Ah, okay. That's an interesting view.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:21 AM
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Low value women will have trouble finding long term mates Sure it doesn't benefit low value women much, but it doesn't harm their chances any does it? In other words, for them it's not a net loss, it's like breaking even before and after hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:50 AM
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What do you mean backfire in themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:42 AM
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Just for reference, you're a male RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:27 AM
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Yeah, lamentation. And as a MGTOW I do see it as a benefit to women because they have more freedom and choice to consider mates. Why is perspective in quotes? I don't know what you mean by whacked shirts aren't really a trophy, I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:23 AM
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At first I did, as I started becoming more redpilled I noticed I didn't have to. I would pay for my own things, she would pay for her own things. If there were ever times I would pay for something, she would return the favor twofold in terms of monetary value. I did consider it generousity from a place of weakness, but I was totally ok with it because everyone's intentions wer laid out on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:53 PM
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Absolutely, a lot of them do. I think those MGTOW just fail to realize that even if these women DID want them, it wouldn't make them happy. From personal experience, just going off looks alone certain women will indicate interest, which PROVES not every woman would reject me (as you put it), but that's not good enough for my lizard brain. Lizard brain demands waist/hip ratio and perky tits, while at the same time absolute loyalty. It's nonsense. For some MGTOW is more of a rebellion against the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:10 PM
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I mean it looks like we agree that at the end of the day, more freedom is a net benefit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 10:26 PM
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Then don't bother asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:22 PM
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No, I don't spend my time considering what women think, that's my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:13 PM
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Have you considered that not every life decision is motivated by how women are going to feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 12:44 PM
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Which is why a lot of dudes who might have one tried to become PUAs are becoming MGTOW instead. They look at the work it would take to become successful with women, they look at women from an RP lens, and decide they'd rather play video games and jerk off to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:04 AM
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6/10 without makeup, she was definitely dating up but she was a traditional, wholesome type which I liked at the time. After a while we stopped hanging out and she would come over to fool around. She got upset with me one day over text and I just ghosted her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 12:50 AM
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You wasted your own time rambling about stuff no one asked you about. If you need to be upset by that, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 11:26 PM
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No, not even illness. Thanks for answering the question. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 10:19 PM
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What in your opinion, is a valid reason for a man to become overweight that a woman leaving him over it would be considered shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:27 PM
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Ah the old "had my fun sleeping around while I was hot, now I'm ready to settle down with a provider" and those poor BPs. But yea, it is a good thing. These people keep civilization going, and I like civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:31 PM
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There are obviously different scenarios. Yes, for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 05:57 PM
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Op be on that cornball shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:26 PM
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It's not something you can get in a romantic relationship. True love is a fondness for someone that remains regardless of how things change. But in a romantic setting, and among adult humans, there are too many things that can change to end or significantly decrease your fondness of that person. I've only seen true love between a parent and child, a human and pet, and maybe if God exists between God and a human. A man and woman: nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:19 AM
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Unless you're a guy and her looks aren't cutting it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:14 AM
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Any time you talk to a whiny person, you can be sure they are suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:05 AM
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Guys! Why don't we just tell criminals to stop doing bad things! Brilliant!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:44 AM
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Doug Stanhope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmzKmTIe_m4
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Is traveling and living your life only ok if you're having serious LTRs?
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ohhhh snap, where's my popcorn. This has the potential to be epic.
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love the double entendre
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Charm is making a person feel good about themselves without it coming off as insincere. Women are usually more charming than men because they get way more practice. Low smv men complain because they grasp to the idea that the world "should be" fair. Speaking of sincerity, I think women use charm in an insincere way more often than men to get what they want, but they know how to get away with it. I don't have much to back this up, just personal observations.
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I agree that women are incapable of loving men, but some of that might be a projection of my own inability to love women. I can sure act the part to get some pussy though, that's all that matters to a sociopath anyway.
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You self-medicate for depression with opiates? What opiates do you take, if you don't mind my asking.
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Weird. Are people actually prescribed opiates for depression?
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Unless you want to be one of those bitter ragey MGTOW, you have to do a ton of work to stop clinging to women as a source of happiness. You have to cultivate and maintain dispassion towards women, while real life and hormones play a tug of war with you. It really is an inner battle sometimes.
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You have two options -- let go of women by becoming MGTOW, or strive and achieve by becoming TRP. Both take a lot of work, you just have to decide if women are worth it. If you're really 3/10 and 5'5" you'll be fighting an uphill battle your whole life. It will be more rewarding to just let go.
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Incels think women can someday change and be reasoned with. It's like the BP version of MGTOW.
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If you're really a 3/10 5'5 virgin incel, you're better off as a MGTOW and just giving up this preoccupation with women. The thing is you're pretty young still, give it a few years.
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men intruding on woman spaces What woman spaces? You mean that trans bathrooms issue?
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Fair enough. To me they aren't arbitrary, it's the only way for me to evaluate whether it's true or not on a broad level. Caitlin Jenner therefore patriarchy doesn't really do it for me, personally.
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Caitlyn Jenner winning woman of the year So would this be something like "media bias of transexual women" or "media bias of masculinity" would be a sign of the patriarchy? I'm not arguing, just trying to figure out what social condition this would fall under. How would you categorize it?
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I vaguely remember hearing about that but didn't follow it much. Why did it almost make you change your mind about a "patriarchy"?
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actually men want very sexually attractive women for sex and relationships, but since they can't get that merely by having a tinder profile and a pulse, they move onto the next best option -- porn. Sometimes even hookers. good thing, otherwise we'd have to settle for "nice girls".
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“You see this goblet?” asks Achaan Chaa, the Thai meditation master. “For me this glass is already broken. I enjoy it; I drink out of it. It holds my water admirably, sometimes even reflecting the sun in beautiful patterns. If I should tap it, it has a lovely ring to it. But when I put this glass on the shelf and the wind knocks it over or my elbow brushes it off the table and it falls to the ground and shatters, I say, ‘Of course.’ When I understand that the glass is already broken, every momen…
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I say go for it! If there's one thing the world needs more of, it's women who are truly dedicated to being a cumslut. We need more volunteers.
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females: no gag reflex, prolapsed rectum, thousand cock stare
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A recent example I can think of is: "I'm blocking you so I never have to see any of your ignorant toxic masculinity again..." said to an RP user who pointed out that she had misread a post (in a rather humiliating way). It stuck out because it was quite funny. From the general usage I just get the impression that toxic masculinity means more like male behaviors that women can feign concern about in order to control them, but I'm probably biased in this regard.
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Why do I often see it used in a range of other contexts having nothing to do with pressuring children. Is it just that the expression is just being misused?
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I didn't see anything wrong with the trailer. So is toxic masculinity roughly the same as yelling at children like a drill sergeant to "man up", or is it more like an encompassing term for a variety of symptoms relating to overly masculine mentality?
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Also he's doing it in a way that telegraphs that he feels nervous but is forcing himself to do it. Which is kinda shitty for those dudes because how else are they going to get practice?
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"I've observed that X often tends to Y, so it seems that it's likely to be true" "well it must be false because I / my whatever falls outside that observation!"
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As the only person commenting so far who actually seems to live this lifestyle, It's just deciding it's not worth it for them to actively seek sexual relationships. Some people take it further, but this is usually the basis. I've made a personal decision to give up porn and masturbation, I consider this a part of "going my own way" and many MGTOWs will disagree with it but hey, that's why it's their own way. Been doing this after a few years as a TERP kind of guy, which went fine for my 20s. Now…
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I disagree. Even though I'm MGTOW, I still think TRP is the way to go even for an average man, or at least to start off with. Average men have a desire to achieve through effort and aren't ready to let go. I don't think the average man has decided that women aren't worth it for them, though they will often say that out of frustration or bitter resignation. I think MGTOW is a natural progression of late stage TRP for some men, not unlike Marxists who believe socialism is the natural progression o…
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Do you mean best option for everybody, or for people who think along the same lines as you do?
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Prostitution will probably become legalized in more areas that would probably be an example of political changes, technologies like VR, game changers like online dating was back in the early 2000s. It could even be something completely different that isn't even on our radar right now. Or things might just continue as always, who knows.
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They do right now. Maybe they will continue to in the future, I don't know. I just don't think they will continue to even bother fucking them. I predict even fucking them without strings attached will eventually become too unappealing compared to the alternatives.
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It probably stems from the idea that women generally seem to always have options, which I'd agree with. Even low value women, who are crazy, bring nothing to the table, and are 4/5/6 on the looks scale. Except with changing demographics, political and social climates, especially technology, etc, I really do think there will be a significant drying up of men who are willing to settle for low value women. High value women will be mostly unaffected by anything. Of course, it's all just conjectures.
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neither of us has seen the future, I'm predicting it will get dicey for both men and women.
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I'm fully aware how retarded that sounds in 2017.
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I don't know but I predict it will grow quite. More than that I think we'll just see a huge wave of female incels considering most women are kind of BP'ed anyway.
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there's a huge difference of intentions between tribal warrior facepaint and cosmetic makeup. Even for those who used it for attraction, modern cosmetics are used in a radically different way.
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Fair enough. I don't think it will give men enough of a social advantage over those who don't, so I don't think it will catch on. Hell, being tall gives you a significant social advantage as a man, yet lifts are still ridiculed and not mainstream. If by some chance it does, a majority of men will begin to use it to make themselves look ultra manly when they're really not. Fake square jaws and stuff like that, it will be hilarious.
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the fact that more and more men will be wearing makeup. How is this a fact?
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I am not sure how I am supposed to prove that when TRPillers themselves say so Two options: you can find where they said it, or if you can't find that you can ask them to repeat it. To claim that TRP openly says they're dishonest, and then come up empty handed, is itself...maybe an overstatement. At least link me to the actual comments of the people who did, I don't have time to scour that entire post.
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TRPillers generally openly say that they're biased and dishonest though I mean would you actually be willing to ask whether RPs really do admit to spreading dishonest anti-female bias. I mean if they do it openly and dishonestly, then it would really open my eyes. You could even use the link as proof. That thread is huge, whose comments am I even supposed to be looking for? Also this many of them openly agree that there is anti-women bias is not the same as this TRPillers generally openly say th…
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Are you willing to test it to back this claim? If it's like half of RPs who really do openly admit to knowingly spreading dishonest anti-female bias, it might be time for me to stop supporting RP views on reddit.
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Then those people who admit to it are doing things immorally. It won't do much to inform them of it, given their attitude, they probably don't care. In general I don't see this open admission to anti-female bias being a widespread tendency among RP though, but we can sure test it!
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Spreading sexist views that you know to be untrue is morally wrong. Spreading views that other people insist are sexist but you honestly believe are true, that's morally neutral.
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I don't know, maybe it is. But if I don't think sex is something particularly special, then on what basis would I treat sexual objectification differently?
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About as special as taking a shit. It's a common animal behavior, literally all animals do it.
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I just mean truly average women. Kind of overweight, not particularly attractive, no real draw to them except having a female body. Many times they'll find someone they're either not that attracted to, or someone who is attractive and takes her for granted (as they should, because they are).
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had the impression that most average people eventually settled for other average people from their social circle Maybe in your social circles. I vaguely recall a socio study where the number of people who meet through friends is less than the number meeting through other ways. It's something like 30% which is a sizable chunk, but not a majority by a long shot. Online dating and bars (probably cold approaches) combined outnumbers intros through friends.
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For the average guy it is, despite "gloom and doom", "bemoaning", "merely exaggerating" and other suggestive word choice. I also don't think it's that much of a cakewalk for average women either (they get it a little easier in my opinion) I mean all you really have to do is be an average guy, go to a college campus, and try to get numbers -- just numbers -- from 100 okay looking college girls. Try setting up a dating profile as an average guy and try messaging 100 girls and how many you get back…
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I agree, it does and it's decent speech. But this is a place where you present an argument and we debate that. Why not just go back and edit in a main point you'd like to debate?
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Wrong place for this.
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