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Uh he wasn’t an incel because he literally trafficked victims & raped them. The only consensual sex he had was presumably Ghislaine, and she is an evil rapist herself. That doesn’t mean all women are like Ghislaine ffs. Such an extreme example/anecdote to use as generalization for the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:17 PM
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What is “AFBB”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:31 AM
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Those aren’t feminist terms…huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:26 PM
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They are saying they do care about the violence, though! You seem to want to ignore that— I guess since it’s just…inconveniently contrary to your whole og premise (which is one big ol’ straw ̛man itself)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:48 PM

We should shame both people who want to be assholes but don’t have a partner to harm, & actual assholes who do harm to their partners. I don’t see a disconnect there between who is against such things. Who is “barely shaming” abusers but is shaming sexless wanna-be abusers? If there is such an incentive that exists, even then I don’t think it’s presented by women/those being victimized. I think the incentive would be inherent to men who want to commit these crimes, have violent urges & wish to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:11 PM

It’s also just not true. Research shows looks matter more to men as a general population than women in terms of dating habits. And it’s still strange to victim blame women or somehow be jealous when they’re abused by their partners— who btw— don’t usually show that they’re going to be abusive, or advertise their future mistreatment of a romantic prospect from the get-go! It’s typically a dynamic within established relationships that escalates over time. That’s kinda the thing about the cycle of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:46 PM
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I agree with everything you mentioned, except for the endometriosis part that threw me off at the end, lol. Cis men don’t have that because it’s literally a disease where uterine tissue grows outside of the uterus & into the abdominal cavity/other internal organs. XY males don’t have uteruses obviously so they don’t have tissues to start growing all haywire in the first place. They wouldn’t have the same type of cells to begin with (nor any of the various other respective parts in that same repr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:17 PM
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They’re lined up to get into a party because that’s where you go to socialize. That’s what such events are…not even necessarily for dating but yeah. Why tf would random women be allowed in to hit on men in an academic setting, even if they were to line up to a STEM building where *education* takes place, not dating/casual socializing? It’s the function of the space not being FOR that. If they’re not students why would they have any reason to be there, or would this hypothetical practice ever be …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:11 PM
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Same with narcissistic psychopathic women having more success with men (romantically, in a certain sense— not necessarily ever achieving long term relationships that “work out” though). These traits are literally skills & willingness to manipulate/use other people. Of course we see them represented this way. It doesn’t mean they’re more attractive FOR being narcissistic or whatever though. The people who like them or associate with them generally don’t believe they *are*, as the dark triad is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:07 PM
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That isn’t the point though of body positivity or whatever. It’s to treat people, including women, with basic respect & decency whether or not you find them attractive (or how much they may fit whichever standards of your own personal physical/sexual inclinations). And that was something that particularly affected women outside the beauty standard aka fat women for so long. It wasn’t just men not being into them but being treated poorly & cruelly insulted for their weight even in platonic relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:53 AM
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I’d agree with that for sure. Doesn’t that go both ways? (Some) men can have the same “ability to overlook” negative traits of a woman they find physically attractive, & may thus pursue her anyway based on that alone. People can be shallow regardless of gender, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:07 AM
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Women don’t have any particular sexual preferences/fantasies, or rather some singular set thereof which we necessarily share. We’re individuals, so what we’re “into” differs. Just as there is still such variation amongst men (when considering each/all amongst the whole group).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:49 AM
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So most women are attractive/above average somehow, and in turn considered (particularly) funny & smart (due to their appearance)? That doesn’t make sense to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:54 PM
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Women are people and people can be bad/do bad things. I don’t see women as a whole denying this fact, but in fact tend to promote the idea of this simply being reality. In the case of feminism that is especially true…as women, our equal fallibility to all ills (even to patriarchal ideals with their intrinsic “toxicity”) is acknowledged as a fundamental factor underlying individuality itself among the “species” we all belong to/the society we share. Females/femmes comprise roughly half of humanit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:53 PM
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Women are people and people can be bad/do bad things. I don’t see women as a whole denying this fact, but in fact tend to promote the idea of this simply being reality. In the case of feminism that is especially true…as women, our equal fallibility to all ills (even to patriarchal ideals with their intrinsic “toxicity”) is acknowledged as a fundamental factor underlying individuality itself among the “species” we all belong to/the society we share. Females/femmes comprise roughly half of humanit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:49 PM

If you need an “incentive” to be nice, you never were. (That’s just transactional at that point, not genuine— many people can tell the difference, thus not rewarding others for faking kindness toward them)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:43 PM

What is GNC?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:40 PM
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How is apologizing not “admitting fault”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:18 AM
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Isn’t it technically masculine though because it’s well, male pattern baldness? So then it’s more just generally cosmetic rather than being explicitly gender affirming, no? Well, not for men & trans masculine people at least. But I could see the opposite being true actually (for a trans woman whom this would be gender affirming to/for in the traditional sense)! Not saying that’s bad/invalid or anything either, if it’s just cosmetic so being done for men’s self esteem/well-being regardless, btw. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:42 PM

Lmao wait- what is “female testosterone”? You mean just…testosterone? Because that peaks at the beginning of menstruation, not ovulation. Like the first day or two of one’s period is when they’re the highest, both overall & relative to the rest of the hormones (which are in fluctuation depending on the particular point in time of the entire pattern which repeats every month/for ~28 days). And in general, for women, T levels remain much more steady overall throughout the entire cycle than they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:10 AM
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You think women get “satisfaction” in rejecting the advances of men? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:01 AM
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Hybristophilia exists for/among both men & women but there are more overall- and especially more high profile- male killers rather than female ones. So therefore the entire phenomenon gets seen as those men getting substantial amounts of romantic attention from so many women (per each “bad guy”) when the reverse is true too…it just seemingly happens less often because well, there are fewer targets for the hybristophilic behavior of straight men. It still manifests with the same frequency though.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:54 AM
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Huh??? Of course I do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:22 AM
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Well the bar itself implies consent so no. But I get what you mean since yeah, the prevalence of coercion may play into how relatively “low” the bar is (according to this whole trope regarding standards women have for male partners).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:18 AM
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Attraction/beauty isn’t objective though, it’s literally subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:10 AM
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Do you…not believe in individuality? How, solipsism? Or did you never develop theory of mind during childhood? I am genuinely so confused by this. You must realize each & every human being is unique/distinct/one of a kind, right? And you know how they are sentient just like you are aware of yourself (having an experience of existing), with personal inner “worlds”/minds of their own that are equally as complex as yours is, (but) essentially just full of different stuff…? It’s hard or perhaps impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:09 AM
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This is a straw man though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:59 AM
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When you talk about consent as if it comes down to whether they “give something up” because the other person/suitor has something of value besides their actual partnership, and is pursuing a relationship with them based on offering (to share) that thing, to me seems indicative of a belief I disagree with. So are you of the mindset that relationships which are transactional in nature are healthy/normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:54 AM
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Due to colorism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:03 AM
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He didn’t even approach women- he had them brought to him. Like the guy was literally being straight up hand delivered an endless supply of human beings in a process we’d call uhh enslavement…Ya know?!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:48 AM
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His “status” is certainly high relative all men who have ever lived, basically. And it allowed him to abuse so many individuals, sure, but that’s got nothing to do with his desirability as a partner and it doesn’t prove that it was necessarily increased based upon that factor. I mean…Who was attracted to him? Certainly not his victims— otherwise it wouldn’t be rape then, no? The whole point is the lack of consent (from the countless individuals he’d committed sexual acts upon/against)! He had th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:41 AM
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So is Obama tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:57 AM
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I mean…I don’t claim to have those rules for any men at all, lol. I don’t need a guy to be a specific height, pay for dates, or “provide” for me in order to date them. I just have to like the guy. And that isn’t something I consciously decide based on such defined parameters- I just naturally feel a certain way about the person. It isn’t a matter of ticking enough boxes down a pre-determined list of objective traits/circumstances like that or whatever! My interest isn’t conditional upon any part…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:50 AM
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You are so close to understanding consent…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:23 AM
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Well no shit. Why would we want equality at all if it wasn’t an improvement (over inequality)?! We want the same rights/privileges that men currently have in our society, the benefits which were reserved for them but not for us. That doesn’t mean we want men to have disadvantages- feminism is not about flipping the hierarchy to favor women over men or something. It’s about elevating all people to be treated just as well as only some people currently are (or have been historically) by our cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:07 AM
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No such thing as a “female brain”- nor a male one, for that matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:17 AM
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Where did you get the 15 hours a week stat from? I’m very curious about this!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:14 AM
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From p in v intercourse, you mean- which is indeed what most people think of as their basic concept of what sex even is. And it’s defined by the man’s pleasure by default- it begins when he’s physically aroused & ends when he finishes. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:11 AM
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I definitely agree with your whole general premise here but just wanted to point out that the word “virtue” doesn’t really apply- rather that I don’t think it’s what you actually mean. Virtue is like, a moral character trait or positive attribute which someone possesses…or alternatively, a value/phenomenon that is inherently “good” in terms of ethics. So the usage of it here doesn’t make total sense. I think you’re trying to say that the ability to get sex isn’t necessarily a benefit or privileg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:47 AM
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Trust me, it really isn’t that deep. I mean surely you must recognize the fact that well, dicks- especially outside of a sexual context- make ppl laugh…men & women alike. Right? You gotta work on your insecurities anyway through therapy or what have you especially if it continues bothering you and/or comes up in other ways, as it basically seems to be considering how you’d hide it from her before this happened. Not blaming you at all (unless you treat her badly for laughing or something) as it s…
/r/ExRedPill06/08/25 12:56 AM
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They’re more likely obese because single moms are poorer than single dads and low income diets- what groceries ppl can afford- are less nutritionally balanced aka “unhealthy” (associated with higher fat & sugar contents, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:58 PM
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I “won’t” make mine either. But I would if my partner asked me to. If he wanted the bed to be made- our bed, that is. I mean as long as he did equal work to make the bed, too, like taking turns or whatever. Because we share the responsibility of our running our life together, and how that life looks is a matter of both our individual needs/wants combined together. Like I’m saying we each get input on the stuff we share or every aspect of daily household routines/ways- so although it doesn’t matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:48 PM
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Right, but you’re saying parents plural here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:35 PM
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I feel like that’s “the last straw” & not the core reason though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:31 PM
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To be fair, a lot of single guys do eat like shit! I mean plenty of young men go right from being totally dependent upon their mom for the fulfillment of their own basic needs to living on their own and having those go unmet due to their lack of self sufficiency in those areas. And far too many of those men fail to ever develop those abilities despite their suffering from it for however long…instead they expect to get another woman to do what mom used to- and for some, maybe their gfs/wives do e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:30 PM
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Huh? They’re saying that their dad didn’t do the “bare minimum” therefore was a bad parent, not necessarily that their mom was a good parent simply because she DID meet that threshold…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:13 PM
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Of course it leads to worse outcomes statistically because you simply have one less adult caring for you while growing up. Less time & less money going toward you in a single adult household, that’s a huge factor. It’s literally cut in half, the resources that can be provided to the child- even if the single parent is trying & giving their literal all. I mean they simply have less of everything versus a dual income one, or even a “traditional” nuclear family setup where there’s a working person …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:11 PM
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Do you think this changed over time (since the 80s/90s let’s say) or was always a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:04 PM
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Why are you dating these women (who you look down on so much)? ‘Neglectful’ mothers are your type or some shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:03 PM
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Mine was generally weekends with my dad, & weekdays with my mom. I’m not even sure that that was like the official legal conditions though, it may just have been what my mom & dad agreed to because it never seemed like there was any court involvement or supervision of what they did or how I was raised lol. Maybe it was totally informal because there was definitely wiggle room/flexibility in terms of whatever worked at the time. Or I suppose it would never become an issue unless one of my parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:01 PM
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I can confirm this from personal experience- But that only applies when women want to keep the father from having/sharing custody. My dad was divorced from my mom since I was 2 or something, but remained part of my life regardless. It was a back & forth thing where I stayed with each parent some percentage of the time…I was usually at my mom’s on weekdays and my dad’s on weekends plus other things like spending holidays with that side of the family or whatever events (or just him providing extra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:50 PM
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My dad was with another woman (my stepmom) since I was a toddler or some shit and was still in my life- what they now call “coparenting”, basically. He didn’t abandon me just because they were no longer in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:34 PM
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But women don’t follow conventionally attractive alpha males and shit because they’re misogynists. The looks aren’t the reason behind his female following- which isn’t even a majority for Hasan’s audience btw. It doesn’t hurt, just like that’s true for literally all famous people…yes, being considered good looking helps men & women in their careers in media, it’s harder to become a successful public figure/personality/celebrity but that definitely isn’t truer for men than it is for women, whose …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:34 PM
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Uh yeah so does any famous person, whether infamous for a crime or just a regular Hollywood actor or something innocuous. Because they’re well known to strangers. Of course they get attention if they’re famous. It doesn’t mean they get anything out of that- especially the serial killers in your example because they’re in prison lol. I mean you’re comparing everyday individuals to celebrities at this point. That goes for women too. I think Sydney Sweeney or literally any woman who is a public fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:24 PM
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Because it simply is rarer. It is harder to find a male partner who is both willing & (knowledge)able to prioritize their female sexual partner’s pleasure as much as his own. This overall trend/statistic is due to various factors, mainly overarching ones in the environment…I mean the entire concept of sex itself in many ways is defined by the man’s orgasm. P-in-v intercourse is the standard/default and it starts with his arousal (erection) & ends with his climax (ejaculation). That’s just the ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:06 PM
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I mean everyone is different and also our needs/wants change over time. Some women want casual sex never, some want it for most of their life, for most individuals it changes depending on their stage of life so they might want it at some points and not others (like when seeking a serious monogamous partnership/relationship or currently committed in one). It’s on an individual basis so I wouldn’t say your statement is accurate. Nobody speaks for their entire gender/sex- aka half the human populat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:57 PM

Wait, you just said you tell her that if she doesn’t like something, she can leave- but that you also work through issues in your relationship…Which is it? Is it only the issues you have (with her) that get resolved? It makes it sound like if she is the one to bring something up, it gets dismissed. But you also say it’s the same for you (that you can leave if you “don’t like something”) so I’m just confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:54 AM
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But people can mutually seek out & enter casual relationships. Like it’s possible for two people to willingly hook up with each other with no expectation of continuing a longer term romantic partnership or committing to one another in any way. I mean- I just think you can not want to necessarily share your life with another person, but still find them attractive & just desire to sleep with them “casually”— with the rest of your whole dynamic staying platonic (between eachother)…So if someone eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:29 AM
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But those killers get attention from a tiny minority of women. Famous killers are just not a large group either, by any means, so they’re outnumbered…thus you get this ratio of “suitors” to each singular serial killer. Also, they tend to be only the mega famous, otherwise conventionally handsome ones who get such treatment. It’s a paraphilia, which means it’s defined by its abnormality. Only a small segment of people have hybristophilia. You can’t generalize that to half the human population (me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:53 PM
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This is what I’ve noticed too. It often goes unsaid, but there’s this particular cognitive distortion- a (gendered) version of the Actor-Observer Bias/Fundamental Attribution Error*- which leads to the underlying resentment redpilled/blackpilled men all seem to have in common… *Could also be related to the Ultimate Attribution Error or maybe the Group Attribution Error. The Extrinsic Incentives Bias & the Puritanical Bias might also apply!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:35 PM
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Right but what’s been making headlines recently? That Gen Z (and likely Alpha will follow suit) has the widest political/ideological divide along gender lines of all the currently living generations. At least among the US population- not sure globally but I think it’s an overall trend that’s reflected here and amplified among the increasingly divisive West. It’s kinda unprecedented.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:36 PM
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Every social ill comes back to capitalism somehow. The profit motive is the issue, as you’ve identified. The interest of the company is not to make relationships happen- it’s quite the opposite. They have zero incentive to actually build their apps in a way that facilitates good matches/long term relationships. They make money off loneliness & desperation of single people searching for love— so if the user actually finds it, then they are no longer a customer of the product/service!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:20 PM
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Exactly. This is just a non-scenario that has nothing to do with women’s expectations let alone reality, it exists in theory as a device though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:17 PM
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And women are usually r*ped by people we know- in fact it’s often by their own partners, sadly enough, or a family member/friend/other acquaintance is the perpetrator. This is true for the majority of cases versus it being a “freak occurrence” of a total stranger randomly jumping a woman out in public or on the street…or whatever the typical image is, of some crazed criminal (that the victim should have somehow avoided preemptively- according to misogynist logic, at least)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:09 PM
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That is not true- there is no universal preference for eye color. Brown eyes aren’t considered more attractive…nor blue or green or grey, and not for any reason at all. Because it differs individually for each person. And some have no preference for those specific factors like eye color. And even then it’s a generalization, only discussed in the abstract like the idea of blue-eyed people as a whole versus brown-eyed people as a whole, someone might say they tend to like brown or blue. But in rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:37 PM
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Yeah, that’s racist…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:22 AM
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What do you mean “male nature”???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:25 AM
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Where? Roe V Wade was overturned in 2022, and now abortion has been criminalized in many states- many going so far as to even make it a crime for their residents to travel to another state (where it’s still legal) in order to have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:05 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pointlesslygendered/comments/gkmuvs/this_is_absolutely_correct/
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 01:00 AM
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https://www.hercampus.com/school/vcu/is-the-hatred-of-cats-rooted-in-misogyny/
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 12:59 AM

Do you have a source for these preference importance rankings by gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:27 PM

Wishing for a hypothetical man who would meet their needs in a relationship and fulfill certain standards or preferences they have is very different than wanting someone who actually exists (or wanting “a” woman “of your own” as a thing) & resenting them for “rejecting” you by refusing to give you sex/romantic attention. Feeling wronged by them when it’s not mutual is a possessive, objectifying attitude. Women saying “where are all the good men” is kinda the opposite. What they really mean is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:09 PM

Attraction (& even compatibility) is subjective & differs on a personal level between each individual/potential “pairing”, and even within an established ongoing relationship. It isn’t some permanent intrinsic trait but a dynamic & exists as the feelings (romantic ones- or lack thereof) toward/for that person by another human being. Desirability isn’t something one “has”. Like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder. So when you say “desirable men”- desirable according to you? I don’t think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:47 PM

Desirable to whom??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:32 PM
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Some women are. This is the problem with generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:05 AM
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Or are you applying a different standard to judge them by rather than your own? If so, is that just based on what you imagine women (as a whole, I guess?) would see/think of the same exact people…which you believe would be quite different- specifically more negative- due to their gender, for some reason? Why exactly would you assume that they’d find these individuals’ non-physical traits to be less appealing/more off-putting than you as a fellow man do?
/r/ExRedPill22/10/24 06:08 AM
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If they don’t have good personalities, why are you even friends with these guys? Platonic relationships aren’t typically formed based on attractiveness- since there is no attraction- so how can that be the only thing they have going for them if you yourself have befriended them?
/r/ExRedPill22/10/24 06:07 AM
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https://theconversation.com/do-women-really-go-for-bad-boys-heres-the-science-that-settles-the-question-59409 https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/may/12/science-hasnt-proved-that-women-go-for-bad-boys https://www.thelist.com/1240835/relationship-bad-boy-myths/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:44 PM
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I mean, as a woman I don’t agree with their take…(because we’re not all the same, believe it or not) No duality here…🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:10 AM
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Except for women who want casual relationships— believe it or not, they can still have standards for engaging in those, too…🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 03:36 AM
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“I don’t pay for it” exactly…that makes it worse in terms of your argument. Traditional porn is exploitative of the performers (financially). At least with OF now, people can be “content creators” and their own boss/work for themselves, and produce the material they are comfortable making themselves. Plus of course they receive all of the profit, as they should for what is their labor (physical of course and mental/creative/social). With the typical arrangement involving producers/directors (tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:42 AM
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Right but that’s exactly the issue with these men viewing media from, or set in, the (idealized) past & acting as if the tropes portrayed within it represents the reality of traditional marriage- or anything else back then, really/actual people’s lives, in general…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:52 AM
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Uhhh pretty sure they did? Well, plenty did. Women aren’t a singular hivemind, they’re a bunch of people which together comprise half of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:55 AM

I think in this context they meant “appreciation” as in like: having gratitude toward, or respect for someone– and not appreciating something aesthetically as you would a piece of art, or how media gets consumed…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:38 AM

Who do you think the girls were dating, if not their male peers (at their high school, in their same grade)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:06 AM

You do realize there are women with the same “nerdy” interests…just ones you’re not attracted to, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:18 AM

Dating apps aren’t only about getting sex. Some are on them for casual hookups and others are looking for a long term relationship, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:02 AM

Why are you assuming women wouldn’t consider that rape? I do. Who exactly says that women never perpetrate SA, or that it doesn’t ever happen to men? Every advocate & advocacy group I know of doesn’t characterize such situations differently based on the gender of the victim/rapist. That’s not really a relevant factor in determining whether something is assault or not. It’s either consensual or it’s not…for any sexual encounter/sex act, the same rules apply to determine that (regardless of the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:00 AM

Who wants to ban men going overseas? I’ve never heard of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:19 PM
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You said you see it “on tv” & talked about media (of both the traditional & social variety) so that’s where I’m getting “celebrities”, or at least people of note that are obviously going to be dressed up & done up to get their pictures taken or appear in content/entertainment, etc. Not everyone has an Instagram, it tends to be certain people who have a reason to post pictures of themselves, so it leans toward models, etc, more than other platforms or just, you know, people you would encounter on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:36 AM
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Uh, sure? I’m saying that it doesn’t reflect what average everyday people look like in person, not just because of makeup but photo editing, AI, etc. And the fact that it’s not a random sample of women whose profiles you’re seeing on your feed. The algorithm isn’t serving you like, people in your area, or anything representative of the general population. So if you’re imagining that the majority of women must look just like these images which you consume online…I think you should test it by goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:23 AM
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That’s not a feminist belief at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:49 AM
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The last part, lol…(seriously, wtf?)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:42 AM
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Huh???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:45 PM
1

“Most of these still do not result in a conviction, charges, or even an arrest.” Uh, exactly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:44 PM
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You keep mentioning celebrities & images you see online. That’s far from “80% of women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:34 PM
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“on instagram” you say?– well no shit…lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:31 PM
1

Of course not. But no male friends randomly meet one another by randomly approaching eachother “on the street” either. We meet people in social settings where people are talking, conversing. Opposite sex friends and professional contacts meet eachother this way, not by cold approaching people they visibly see walking down a sidewalk for no reason. Idk why human interaction is boiled down to either being all Or nothing “cold approaches” between strangers versus where people actually interact
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:29 AM
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I think you should “orient” yourself toward what you find attractive and what you want in a partner. Not the “average” person of the opposite sex. Seek out who you genuinely feel compatible with and attuned to, regardless of anything else. And by orienting I just mean finding yourself and finding what you like and learning how to present that authentically toward others. I also don’t believe there is an “average” to find or assess, and if there is such an ideal it’s usually tainted by popular cu…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 06:15 AM
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It’s not more important. I’m not sure why the trope of such advice “confidence is attractive” exists other than the fact that maybe it just means showing your personality? If your personality is kind, funny, etc, you only show that if you’re “confident” enough to do so- I guess…I think this is based on the misunderstanding between bravado/cockyness & self assuredness or like, earnestness. I do believe in the advice of “just be yourself” although that’s easier said than done of course and I think…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 06:08 AM
2

…did you think they meant the company?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:05 AM
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The closest thing to a formerly “redpilled” woman would probably be ex-“tradwives” and whatnot (so, under a different name than any of the manosphere titles for guys who joined these movements online originally)…including former religious fundamentalists who have left the extra-patriarchal communities & cults they were raised into or recruited by/groomed into by a former partner/abuser. Plenty of ex-Mormons, etcetera fit this bill.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 03:51 AM
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https://theconversation.com/other-people-are-having-way-way-less-sex-than-you-think-they-are-101153 https://www.healthday.com/health-news/child-health/most-u-s-teens-aren-t-doing-it-723903.html https://ed.stanford.edu/news/misfit-or-miss-goody-two-shoes-study-shows-misperceptions-abound-among-adolescents
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 03:00 AM
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Huh?? What is that?
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 02:48 AM
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I mean, like any medium of entertainment, certain messaging is widely ingrained into popular media. This goes for porn, and the common portrayals of men vs women measurably differ for most porn that’s aimed at/is consumed by a straight male audience. There’s just apparent widespread themes of objectification & degradation of females appearing in mainstream porn, and disproportionate aggression/violence is shown toward female porn stars during the majority of straight sex scenes almost by default…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 02:45 AM
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I think people on the “anti” red pill spectrum (aka blue pill) are finally coming around to this reality, too. Millennials and Gen Z especially are now realizing why this stuff needs to be addressed. Especially as they see how it’s different from like, conservative slut-shaming/purity culture, or whatever it’s seemed to get confused for in more left-wing/feminist circles (in my experience)! At least in the past that sort of knee-jerk association’s been prevalent. For the past decade or more, the…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 02:04 AM
1

So I don’t recommend 12 step ideology for any type of dependency, substance or otherwise (unless it’s the only option left that you go into informed & intending to only take the good/helpful parts from) but I agree with everything else you’ve said here! Porn, as it now stands, in this current culture, IS indeed a problem- or at least, the influence of the porn industry manifests itself in certain social ills. It definitely contributes to the vulnerability of young men to going down the red pill …
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 02:03 AM
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So I don’t recommend 12 step ideology for any type of dependency, substance or otherwise (unless it’s the only option left that you go into informed & intending to only take the good/helpful parts from) but I agree with everything else you’ve said here! Porn, as it now stands, in this current culture, IS indeed a problem- or at least, the influence of the porn industry manifests itself in certain social ills. It definitely contributes to the vulnerability of young men to going down the red pill …
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 02:02 AM
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From the outside, it’s impossible to know. I mean the relationships of strangers- like everything else about a person’s personal life- don’t necessarily reflect their social media representation…even for healthy partnerships! You might be perfectly happy together but still aren’t going to broadcast all your fights online- even if they’re totally normal arguments that get resolved just fine. Because that’s just not the way people present themselves as a couple in the vast majority of cases…except…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 01:27 AM
1

“Loving”, or victimized & abused/manipulated into keeping up that appearance?
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 01:19 AM
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I’m just not sure this is true…do you have a source for that stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:13 AM
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Right, it’s not about actually giving their own # to people they’re interested in. So if there is no further interaction and in fact it was a way to disengage from the interaction with the person who instigated it, and it’s specifically meant to halt them from pursuing her further…why exactly would her boyfriend take issue with that? Just because the random guy might think for now that she might be into him & he is left without an obvious rejection from her? Why does it matter if that’s actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:31 AM
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Right, it’s not about actually giving them to people they’re interested in. Cheating is cheating, if it never leads to that, because she doesn’t actually want to, why does it break any trust in a relationship? And being approached for a number versus receiving & reciprocating “an advance from a woman” as a guy is very different. Unfortunately women can’t openly decline to consent to strange men’s advances in the same way men generally can- not to mention the fact that men probably aren’t going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:22 AM
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I don’t know how else to tell you this but you’re just wrong. It’s not even a moral disagreement. That whole “no girls allowed” mindset is just so childish…and incredibly outdated. As for platonic relationships between people of the opposite sex, I mean, I’d say grow up- except people of all ages can be mature enough to let go of the cooties mentality shit. Men don’t befriend women except to try to sleep with them at some point? Lol, tell that to my male best friends since 7th grade (we’re 31 no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:08 AM
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This is just a repackaging of the common misconception/trope that “women are all the same”, basically, whereas men are individuals— It doesn’t hold up when you look at objective research measuring traits (& compare the results for each gender)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:39 PM
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Porn ≠ sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:04 AM

It was an entire group of people in a public setting, I’m pretty sure they could take one guy on if he were to try to attack them when called out on actively committing a crime (which is unlikely already when he’s so outnumbered, but still). The one woman that’s being drugged, as the sole victim, is at risk of his violence already and stands no chance against the perpetrator on her own. She doesn’t have to be on her own in that situation yet the bystanders did nothing- that’s beyond being a witn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:14 PM
1

Birth control fails, you know. It isn’t even accessible to everyone who needs it, but that’s another story. Even if it were perfectly available to all, it’s still possible for it to not work. A certain percentage of the time it will result in pregnancy regardless of being used properly. And the consequence of sex between two people is solely a burden placed upon the woman and not the man. There should be the ability for her to terminate that unplanned pregnancy. Not to mention the other one-side…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 08:08 AM
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Well…Over half of women and almost 1 in 3 men have experienced sexual violence involving physical contact during their lifetimes. One in 4 women and about 1 in 26 men have experienced completed or attempted rape. In 2019, over 652,676 women were raped in the US- not including unreported rapes, which are the vast majority according to studies. This figure excludes non-rape sexual assaults but includes date rape statistics; if included, data from non-rape sexual assaults would take the figure clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:39 AM
1

I don’t find most men unattractive, but I am not attracted to most men, either. There’s a difference! Basically when I’m just encountering Average Joes, I’ll find their overall looks to be neutral (more often than not)…as in not being sexually attracted to their physical appearance alone- versus finding them outright unappealing/“ugly”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:28 PM
2

Not all women like the same type. It seems to me that preferences vary quite a bit from person to person. I personally have never been into “athletic” builds- so 6-packs & such just don’t do anything for me, and I hear a lot of women say the same thing! That goes for most of the typical features male celebrities who are considered “handsome” have, too…including a chiseled jawline and strong brow, amongst various other characteristics of the specific traditional look portrayed in mainstream media…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:13 PM
1

A single comment by one individual reflects upon an entire half of the human population?
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 08:27 PM
1

…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:53 PM
1

That article states that “A 2008 study in the United Kingdom found that biological fathers were misidentified in 0.2% (1 in 500) of the cases processed by the Child Support Agency. Of that 0.2%, those resolved with DNA paternity testing between 2004 and 2008 showed that between 10 and 19% of mothers had misidentified the biological father; data about why mothers identified the wrong biological father were not available.” So, sounds like intentional paternity fraud is not at all commonplace, nor …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:16 AM
1

Seems like the issue is women being mistreated by men in relationships and how common that is. The entire red pill argument here is erroneously blaming the victims of/for those men’s actions, by claiming that the woman “picked wrong”- when rarely do abusive men advertise it from the get-go, or fit the Chad stereotype. And there’s really no evidence to suggest that abusers are simply being “chosen” at higher rates than men who do not become abusive in a domestic partnership (you know, the so-call…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:05 AM
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Glad you’re thinking for yourself & seeing the issues with this ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:57 AM
2

Huh?? She’s not even slightly chubby…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:31 PM
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Nooo it’s not a double standard only applying to men or anything, I’m just saying..the equivalent of a dick pic offer would be involving their p{}$$y as opposed to a mention of their chest (which is something you can see while someone is clothed, too)
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/23 05:52 AM
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Tinder isn’t applicable to attraction/dating dynamics in general (certainly not in real world interaction & organically meeting potential partners) There’s many reasons that go into the Tinder/online patterns of usage but the first one is that they are not evaluating the men themselves, they’re evaluating the profiles of actual men (who exist irl, but whom they don’t yet know & have never actually met)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:21 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:19 AM
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“You just see hot/stunning women as average.” Exactly!!! (This sort of goes along with the whole “bar being lower for men” concept, too)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:19 AM
2

You’re just describing attraction, you could say the same about men being into a woman or not. Of course if you like them, you like them and if you don’t like them, why would you “give them a chance” or whatever? That makes no sense…sure, feelings can develop over time when you’re getting to know someone and all of that, but that doesn’t seem to be what you’re referring to? To me it’s like, if someone isn’t into you, of course they’re going to reject you. The reason being that they aren’t into y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:14 AM
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I agree, for urinating, mainly. I guess in that case it’s more of a state thing, flaccid vs erect. & It just matters what you’re doing with it.
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 10:38 PM
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“Most men have arousal towards boobs over clit” haha of course they do 😣😔😒 unfortunately that is obviously true…ugh
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 10:35 PM
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I’m saying that depending on the context, talking about boobs is not the same as someone talking about or showing someone their erect penis or clitoris- that’s like actual sexual arousal/getting off, versus a body part that can be totally inert in many circumstances (even if breasts are frequently viewed & treated as a “sexual object” in modern media, etc) And as you said, breasts are a secondary sex characteristic of XX aka female humans…and I suppose they’re basically part of the reproductive …
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 09:39 PM
1

Well it’s homophobic/biphobic, not sexist…but it’s still stupid & wrong (to have such a prejudice against dating them, solely due to their orientation). Personally I’ve never really heard of this being a common thing, though. And I don’t hold any of the ignorant beliefs listed in the post. In fact if anything, to me it’s only a plus if they’re bi. I know I’m not alone in that either- that’s actually the attitude I typically hear other women having about the subject, as well…and if it isn’t posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:29 PM
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Those are movies/tv shows, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:04 PM
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Except breasts aren’t a sexual organ, so IMO it’s significantly less threatening/inappropriate than talking about your genitals would be (regardless of gender)
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 03:53 PM
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