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There is no scientific data to back up that theory. It was created out of thin air using a thin foundation of what we do know about neurotransmitters. Look it up for yourself, no peer reviewed, evidence based study gives any indication of a 100%-75%-50% rule. It was made up by the manospehere to perpetuate the misogynistic idea that women can only have one sexual partner. It simply is not true. I'm glad you're listening to women. According to the manospehere, I shouldn't have a great love for my…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/22 05:01 PM
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Exactly. That's the mindset of a healthy relationship.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/22 04:49 PM
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Exactly, it has little to do with sex. I don't see anything that says that humans can only pairbond with one person, and after that suddenly they can't pairbond anymore. This guy is misconstruing it to a ridiculous notion.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/22 06:01 AM
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Pressuring? If she loves you she won't break up with you. Simple as that. You don't "pressure" anyone to stay monogamous. If they love you, they will stay monogamous. You're overthinking this. Honestly, you don't sound ready for a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 06:48 PM
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And your girlfriend will certainly think you're getting bored of her. Both sexes experience the same fears. I myself I thought the same thing. The best thing to do is enjoy the moment. If you carry your fears into your relationships, I assure you, you will never be happy. Most women and men are like you. I don't think monogamy is natural but it's what works best for everyone, especially when children are around, so we've perpetuated the idea that it's the desirable outcome. Women and men will gi…
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 06:26 PM
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Pair bonding is a ridiculous notion that has no true scientific backing. What has more scientific backing is that we're NOT monogamous. Very few species keep the same mate for the entirety of their lives, and our species is not observed to be one of them. The fact that you think that a woman's first is their greatest love is such a young, naive way of thinking. I'm a 31 year old woman, and have had sex with 12 men in my lifetime. My first was my first "love" at 18, but he was certainly not my be…
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 06:05 PM
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So thank you for showing us why Red Pill is bad- promiscuous people are bad partners, and since Red Pill helps men be promiscuous, the Red Pill creates bad partners.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 06:17 AM
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promiscuous PEOPLE. Most of these studies are measuring both men and women's behavior. So promiscuous men are more likely to cheat as well, thus Red Pill is a breeding ground for cheating, bad partners.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 06:08 AM
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On a big enough timeline. But in a shorter timeline, like the data being used, it isn't that linear. If less people got married in 2018, that has no effect on the fact that less people got divorced in 2018. Unless divorcing in less than a year is commonplace, which it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:26 PM
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"as of 2019 both marriages and divorces have decreased"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:00 PM
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Yeah, it is irrational when men want to be treated like civilized people but also want to behave as they did when they were hooting monkeys. "Boys will be boys". No, grow some manners and think beyond your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:20 AM
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sure bud. like cheating, subbing to onlyfans, findom, and emotional neglect isn't a thing to married men. People are shit. You sound ridiculous when you try to paint men as the more righteous and just ones. None of us are righteous. A lot of us suck. Get over it and find the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:58 PM
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sure bud. like cheating, subbing to onlyfans, and findom isn't a thing to married men. People are shit. You sound ridiculous when you try to paint men as the more righteous and just ones. None of us are righteous. A lot of us suck. Get over it and find the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:57 PM
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When I say cook, I mean cook for you. If you want to cook for her, and her cook for you, and you clean the apartment, and she cleans the apartment, like an egalitarian 50/50 week day rule, then good for you! You don't want to have sex with your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:07 AM
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"women need to know how to cook" but "I don't need to be taken care of" okay, then why do you care so much that women need to know how to cook? Also, I'm not a fan of Freud. But let's be real, a lot of men want a mommy. It's a big problem in the dating world. So Freud was REALLY CLOSE but also on coke so he missed the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:12 AM
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I bet you want a woman who will take care of you, dote on you, cook for you, etc. Kind of like a mother, huh? That's what Freud meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:00 AM
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lol someone has never heard the madonna whore complex. Men absolutely sleep with one kind of woman and marry another. It has its own trope it's so recognized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:31 PM
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So it sounds like you can't afford a house as well. Damn dude, that sucks. Houses over here in Texas range from 200k+, my hairstylist and her car salesman husband just bought a house for 400k. The middle class fare much better over here, I should be thankful. My bf makes 130k and I'll be making 70k right after grad school. Sounds like we couldnt get a house over in Canada!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:46 AM
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I think that if you DO have all that to offer, it's possible to find someone who is a "match", meaning they have that to offer as well. If you "make money" you're probably in circles of men and women who also make money. And I'm not even talking about big bucks. Even teachers who get married can afford to buy houses. It basically comes down to "contributes financially". If you really think that's hard to find then there must be something else going on you're not telling us
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:20 AM
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so you don't want a house? aiming high I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:20 AM
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that you for confirming men care about degrees. It's a dumb debate among PPD that they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:10 PM
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You're welcome. There's no shame in trying to be attractive to attract people you want lol maybe you should try it. I don't participate in those subs. I participate in lesser known subs that focus on improving looks. There is no man basing there. I'm in a relationship right now, and there is no misogyny, so I don't think you know what youre talking about. There are toxic relationships, yes, but that doesn't make it okay. If there is misogyny in a relationship, it isn't healthy, and that is not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:51 PM
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Why is it not a dad's job? Why are you putting all the emotional labor on mom? Moms don't want to tell their son's they are ugly. I don't know about fathers. Most boys have fathers, seems like a son and pop chat to me. I actually think the red pill gets the improving stuff right: of course if you lift you will attract more women. Its just the resentment, disrespect, and misogyny that festers in the circles that I don't agree with. If you go to women centric subs, we tell each other tips to impro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:35 PM
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being attractive? Women spend thousands of dollars a year on clothes, hair, body, and skin to look attractive. OP has figured out what women have known for centuries: look good and they will come. Don't ever listen to your mom's advice: this was OP's mistake. Mom's will never tell their sons that they are ugly and need work to get women. And that's not their job anyway. Guys have to figure out for themselves. Some never do and complain about it on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:30 PM
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I do take birth control and I never complain because I'm not a drama queen and see the ultimate benefit in it. Take notes, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:47 PM
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lol my bf takes finasteride, been on it since january. no limp dick or titties to speak of. stop being a drama queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:25 PM
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Because you guys are fucking hilarious. Delusional has comedic value
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:06 PM
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my feelings? more like my factual existence. How do you know I'm a minority? Where's the data? Oh right, there is none. Aw, does imagining women over 30 being in loving relationships really ruffle your feathers? Talking about feelings over facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:51 PM
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I simply don't think this is true on a grand scale. Having sex and having a relationship are two different things. Just because you want to have sex with someone doesn't mean you think they'll make good long term companions. Most men 30+ might see a young girl as attractive but share little else in common. That's enough to go another way. Also, you forget about the young early 20s girls. Read TRP advice subreddits posts by old men trying to hit on 22 year olds. 22 year old girls don't want anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:29 PM
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Among others, this guy: I'm an older guy that gets attention from young chicks, you're spot on. Most of us aren't lecherous men that only fuck hot young chicks. Most Early 20's women are annoying, and vapid. They haven't developed their own personality, or are looking for someone to finance their good times. Most older men aren't into that, occasionally there will be someone that isn't like that. It's usually someone that has lived a life differently from most ( veterans, single moms, women that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:18 AM
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Haha how long do you think we've been dating? Reasonable people don't get married after a year. Judging by your user name, if you were born in 1982, youre time is pretty much done. Sperm over 40 isn't allowed to be donated for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:08 AM
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No, it doesn't make the conversation easier because it's a distinction that was taken from a disproven observation in wolves. It's unscientific metaphor that gives no real description of men and other than being a quick way to dismiss any nuances that exist beyond the vacuum that is obviously your little brain. But go on with your ShoRThaNDs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:17 PM
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Betas and alphas are a figment of your imagination. The true differentiation is family oriented and non family oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:43 PM
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Lol he def has options. And yeah, that's just you. You seem bias already on "young hot women". But when you get older and start wanting a family you realize that there are still hot women around your age that you can actually spend your life and share your passions with. Maturity is a HVM trait, in my opinion. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:03 PM
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Yeah, sex with emotional connection is where it's at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:55 PM
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And my 36 year old bf makes 100k+ a year in STEM and is dating me, a 30 year old. All of his high earning STEM friends have wives around their age range. So I actually have more examples than you that go against your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:53 PM
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The fact that young men with no dating experience or life experience think that older, high earning men are looking to fuck hot young women on a grand scale. It's not happening nearly as much as you think it is, so it's obviously not considered a "best option" for the majority of the male population. That may be a reason why it gets ridiculed. It's not a HVM trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:44 PM
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Yeah it's called hormones and a desire to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:31 PM
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6 years for adults is hardly a difference. I'm 30 and my bf is 36. You would never call that "stealing from the cradle".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:23 PM
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Yeah, the thing is very rarely do men take this supposed "best option". Most men who make 80k+ are still are looking for a best friend and mother for their child. To the majority of men, that's the best option. Like, it's fine if you want to bang hot young women, but in my experience STEM guys making the 80k-150k range are looking for a wife and date in their age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:21 PM
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I've had my father commit suicide when I was 18, developed complex post traumatic stress disorder because of the circumstances of finding him, survived a life threatening car accident and will have chronic pain for the rest of my life, and still worked my way into a respected position in my field. Don't generalize. I have almost surely been through way more hardships then you and you would never know by looking at me. It's pointless to generalize on something you can't even observe like "hardshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:22 PM
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Yes it does. The younger you are the more likely you are to be divorced. 28- beyond is the best time to get married if you're thinking about stats
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:38 AM
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Absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:33 AM
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1 in 7 women experience domestic abuse, so this is not paranoia on women's part to want to have a getaway just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:39 PM
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No, all I'm saying is that now it's easier to leave toxic relationships and that it was harder to leave toxic relationships back then. Whether or not they make a dent in percentages of marriages is hardly the point. The point is protecting yourself, like getting prenups. Women can't protect themselves fully without having a career. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:36 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5756118_Inter-parental_conflict_and_children's_academic_attainment_A_longitudinal_analysis https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2001-18605-006 https://www.pnas.org/content/116/15/7266 - this one is interesting because it compares marriages where divorce was not expected (petty reasons for divorce) and marriages that divorce was expected (toxic marriages). They find that when toxic marriages end it does not effect the child academically. here's a few. Obviously,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:20 PM
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I'm not denying it happens, I sympathize for the men it does happen to, but I'm denying it happens ON A GRAND SCALE. Why? Because data shows otherwise. But go on thinking your thing, feels over logic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:03 PM
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Also, wide spread divorce rape is a myth, or the poorest women demographic statistically wouldn't be divorced women. They sure would like to know where this "divorce rape" money is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:50 PM
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Please, don't romanticize the past to fit your narrative. People weren't nobler and better at sticking together, they were better at orchestrating marriage in a way that it would be way worse to leave than to stay. Today, that dynamic isn't there anymore, and it's a lot easier to leave. Toxic marriages create a lot more trauma in children than divorce, Ill send you a source on that if you don't believe me, so the relative destigmatization of divorce is actually a net benefit for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:48 PM
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Well, the reason I'm getting a career is (among other things) so I don't have to depend on a man for anything, so I guess men are a motivation for my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:40 PM
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Yeah and thank God for that. Marrying is a bad bet for both parties. All women should have careers before even thinking about marriage so if things go south they can take care of themselves. That's the only reason divorce wasn't more common in the past: if a woman divorced her husband she would be effectively homeless because she had none of her own income. We don't have to grin and bear it anymore. We can high tail out of there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:29 PM
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How did they deal with their emotions? I'm autistic and have been broken up with because I'm pretty messy and moved in with a clean freak, but never got feedback like that for my emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:19 AM
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Exactly. Human behavior is a science but there are only certain universal behavioral laws that apply to everyone. Everything else is highly dependent on the environment which vary too greatly from person to person to apply generalizations that PPD loves so much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:51 PM
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I don't engage in good faith with people who can't respond in a respectful rebuttal. Though I think you have always been condescending and disrespectful, the internet has just let you express it more openly without social punishment. Has the internet made you worse? Perhaps, but algorithms are reflections of ourselves, we are not reflections of the algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 05:56 PM
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So you agree, it is the internet. I'm glad you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:29 PM
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You would have been right if you just stopped with "the internet ruined everything". Give angry people a platform and they will talk. Nothing has gotten worse, just louder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:39 AM
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It would be very sad if it was the only way to meet people. It has the potential to be very sad, but I can't see it as sad since ways to meet women exist outside of dating apps. Friend groups, hobbies, church, work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 01:39 AM
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I can just go off my experience of men and what they did to stop the hair loss. Male pattern baldness is reversible if caught early enough, but receding hair line isn't, I'll give you that. Also, you can't compare real life pairing with dating apps. Of course people are going to choose the most attractive people, why not? Literally, what is there to lose? It's the gameyist of all games. If you are average or below average stay far away from dating apps, or you're in a world of hurt. That needs t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:26 AM
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4 short guys in a friend group isn't what I would call an "exception" but okay? Out of short, pale, balding, skinny, short is the least undesirable, and it's also the only thing you can't control. Yeah there are height queens, but there are also boob kings, and butt kings, and the like. They can be annoyingly loud, but it's insane to think out of being pale, balding, skinny fat, and short, you think women care most about short. That's absolutely not true. It's almost like you want to think the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:03 AM
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yeah I would say "stop making excuses" to a 6' woman. It might be harder, but it isn't impossible. I read guys on reddit loving tall women all the time. And honestly the 6' woman who is having issues with dating may be only having issues because she's being too picky. Some of these guys who are short and married are totally average lol. But if you're below average and short it's not the shortness that is the deal breaker. Short isn't inherently ugly. Ugly is inherently ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:23 PM
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If your short and have issues with dating I guarantee it's not because you're short. I have a large friend group and the three shortest of the group are married with hot wives (one taller than her husband). Stop making excuses like "I'm short", it's lazy and not based in reality. My boyfriend is 5'8 and I think he's so hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:39 PM
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Don't misconstrue meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:35 PM
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Also "your body doing what it's supposed to do" =! consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:36 PM
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I agree with child support at conception, if abortion was abolished. But I don't want it to be abolished, so I am logically for parental support opt out and reform. Its crazy a man may not want a child and be stuck paying money the rest of his life, especially since that tends to happen to low economic status men. I don't believe they consent to that, just as women don't consent to giving up their organs for 9 months. The system is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:33 PM
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If people could stop shitting I guarantee you they would. We just haven't got the technology for it. Also comparing shitting to 9 months of pregnancy and labor? Okay. But anyway, it doesn't matter. Just because you are a human life doesn't mean you are entitled to another human's life. There is no law that requires anyone to save anyone else's life. A family is not obligated to donate organs of a dead patient to a dying patient, even if that means the dying patient will die. Similarly, a non-con…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:19 AM
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Meh, the court rightly knows that childbirth and motherhood is a whole nother monster, unlike child support. Its not hypocritical at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 11:10 PM
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It is a human life. But a human life is and has never been entitled to another human life in any other legal sense. A person is not legally required to save another person's life. A dead patient family is not legally required to donate organs to save lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:31 PM
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Consent to sex is not consent for pregnancy. That's why birth control exists. With that logic the father is consenting to child support the moment he nuts, but the way y'all complain about support makes me think you don't see nutting as consent to child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:30 PM
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That's quite an assumption you have, complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:13 PM
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It's still purpose though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:59 PM
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Who said I wasn't creative and witty too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:54 PM
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This is true. I have a high IQ and am certainly smarter than my wonderful bf. Thing is, he is very creative and witty and that's why I Iove him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:52 PM
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I once had an ex who said his ego was shot when my IQ was higher than his. That's one reason he's an ex. Good men don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:49 PM
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Can you start a YouTube channel for young men? You get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:41 PM
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Everyone dates with a purpose: having fun and access to sex is def a good purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:35 PM
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Finland had nothing to do with the uprising of the Bolsheviks. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:34 PM
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That is absolutely not true. You are so misinformed it's laughable. I'm not going to teach you about the history of Russia and the rise of the Soviet Union but damn you need some schooling. You know nothing of politics, history, or regimes so I suggest you shut your mouth and stop looking so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:10 PM
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Because they were systemically barred from being involved with politics. You really know a whole lot of nothing don't you 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:54 PM
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Show me that women are the larger offender and then Ill consider it. I'm totally neutral on the subject because I don't believe in anecdotal experiences where 2 people can have 2 completely different experiences. This thread is full of examples of both men and women doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:55 PM
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Lol this 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:52 PM
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Exactly! It's setting up a really bad relationship dynamic that will probably make you even less happy in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:45 PM
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I think the point is that it's going to be a healthier relationship for everyone if you love yourself first. Sure, a self loathing woman can get into a relationship, but will it be a mutually beneficial, mutually enjoyed, and healthy relationship? I'm not so sure. I guess maybe some better advice would be to find someone who loves themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:43 PM
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And you should remember to not speak in absolutes, or you'll get responses like that. Women and men do those things, it's not so much a gender thing as it is a shitty person thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:29 PM
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The point of jokes is they are multiplied versions of truth. So divide it by 4 and you get the truth, which is never as bad or funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:26 PM
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Women didn't create the Soviet Union, North Korea, and the China Republic but go off 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:22 PM
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ok you're literally not worth having a conversation with. if you want to live a life and resentment or self pity be my guest lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:28 PM
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the majority of women don't hate the majority of men. Simple as that. Imagine thinking the internet represents the majority of people hahahah. Thats the real mind bender of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:11 PM
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She was a playboy bunny because she went undercover gonzo style to write an exposé about it for a magazine. You should read it, it's pretty good. She's a great journalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 05:51 PM
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My guy, you didn't live back then. Because of that you have literally no idea what you're talking about, which is why people are calling this drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:32 PM
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If the millionaire has a full head of hair, clear skin, and no beer gut than yeah I'd find him more attractive. However if he's balding, ugly skin, and getting chubby I'd pick the hottie with a one bedroom apartment. Any other woman would agree with me, I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:39 PM
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It's almost like people can call something feminism and it not be actual feminism? I go by the definition. If someone calls themselves a feminist and does not support equality of both sexes they are by definition not a feminist and they can suck it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:18 PM
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Lol good luck with that. Be perfect all the time? Sounds exhausting and definitely impossible. You will fuck up. Luckily, there's this thing called "love" and "respect" (you may have not heard of it idk) that will keep you out of the doghouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:38 PM
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Not true. Behind every HVM there's a partner sick of their sick. You're delusional if you think they will never not be cherished by the same person. They'll be cherished again, sure, but not necessarily by the same women. Never put any human on a pedestal. You'll always be wrong if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:07 PM
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A 50/50 split is a good way to measure who the glass half empty/glass half full people are. Like those who react "only 50%???" Or "wow 50%!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:03 PM
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I understand that, I was just using that stat to show it's obviously not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:55 PM
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Lol you also have gang bangs. That is a red flag for extremely mentally unwell. Also posting sexually provocative images on the internet screams mental illness. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:44 PM
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You both sound like low value humans. You for thinking you needed to get gangbanged to be loved and he in finding that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:41 PM
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No offense but I don't think a person who thought she needed to be gangbanged to be found attractive by her husband should be lecturing about bad decisions. Just because you make bad decisions doesn't mean other people should lose their freedom over theirs. I'm sorry you feel like you've fucked up so badly you want all your agency taken from you. This is above my pay grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:38 PM
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damn, sounds like a loser to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:36 PM
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Well luckily we have the freedom to get out of it once we realize it. Attraction and love can be a bitch, so glad we have an exit plan if we mess up. It's unrealistic to say "well don't mess up". You can't be human and not mess up. People don't need to be stuck to their mistakes their entire life. You have no compassion if you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:16 PM
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So you cheated?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:12 PM
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Also I call absolute bullshit with you. You said you've had sex with a lot of people but married your high school sweetheart? What, were you a teen slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:47 PM
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You literally have no understanding of the Taliban. They are religiously motivated, not sex deprived motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:45 PM
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You discover they are loser after a couple of years of dating. My last boyfriend was marriage material on paper, took a couple of years of dating to realize how he was a loser in the stealthy sense. Men are good at hiding their loserdom, just as women are. I don't date typical "losers" but goddamn some seemingly stable guys can be losers, you'd be surprised how sneaky they can be about it. Anyway, I'm dating a great guy now for almost two years who was friends with that loser ex. Didn't seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:41 PM
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They might very well be a LARPer. I'm sniffing out something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:30 PM
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Edited 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:18 PM
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My guy, we've never had it good. But I'd rather have sex with losers (I did the dumping most of the time) than get married to a loser. I'd also rather be making my own money and be able to leave that loser than be stuck with that loser for the rest of my life because I can't support myself. I've lived with those losers, holy shit I can't imagine having to deal with that for the rest of my life because I have no other option. Good men are rare and money gives us an exit plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:13 PM
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Ok again, your reality does not mean it's everyone's reality. No one perceives things exactly the same as you. Just say feminism hasn't benefited you, that's more than fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:04 PM
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Have you ever thought that maybe some people don't think the same way you do? Just because you value marriage and chastity over education and pleasure doesn't mean other women think the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:57 PM
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Well, technically, it ends in death 100% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:51 PM
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For real. As a woman I have this to say: be sexy. Thats it. If youre sexy (looks, persona, reputation are all "sexy") I will want to fuck you. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:43 PM
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That's not because society cared about men. That's because women were not allowed in the (profitable) workplace and literally could not survive without a man because of it. So you really want to go back to couples hating each other because the foundation of their relationship was survival? Lol let me tell you, that doesn't create marital satisfaction. It's just that divorce was so taboo and women had no way to support their children that you don't see astronomical divorce rates. People weren't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:14 PM
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they're not incels. they are religious nut jobs. huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:01 AM
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No, the whole point was to gain land, resources, and labor. A lot of low value men were left over, because it was never about "give every man a woman". You really think society ever gave a shit about anyone's happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:59 AM
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there's a 50/50 chance a marriage doesn't end in divorce. I wouldn't call that "rare".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:54 AM
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the real nature of women? more like the real nature of people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:48 AM
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How does society encapsulate young men that "women are wonderful"? I have never seen that to be widespread, but I am a woman and have generally interacted with mentally healthy men in my life. I find it to be a cope that mentally unwell or underdeveloped young men use on themselves, not pushed on by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:35 PM
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yeah this is what my parents told me and it's worked out great! edit: I should say I wait until I "really really like" them. True love can take months to develop, and I ain't got time for that. But "really really like" has helped me filter out a lot of bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:45 PM
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Just because that's how he was raised doesn't mean that's the reason he picked a bad partner. Correlation does not equal causation. What's lazy is thinking that MUST be why he got cucked. Things are so much more nuanced than that. Parents can only do so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:44 PM
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Yes, you actually can. I have a masters degree in behavioral science. It's stupid how predictable and non chaotic we are. I measure it every day. The meaning of life, morality, etc, are philosophical, humane topics that cannot be measured. Human behavior is something that can absolutely be measured. As a behavior scientist, I would suggest you stop thinking we're so special. Behavior is under laws just as physics are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:32 PM
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A sum of collective phenomena are more sound than studies made on small groups with limited settings. Because those theories don't come from thin air. They come from shared experiences of countless agents of said group. I can't explain science to you. I'm sorry you don't trust scientific processes and statistical studies. Social science studies are a sum of collective phenomena put through rigorous statistical analysis and control to account for things your "countless agents" of groups can't con…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:23 AM
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You are not countering my arguments with any sources that challenge my claims. You say you do not respect analytical philosophy and yet you are dead set in rejecting in the most sound way of observation we have in humane topics and relying on pseudo scientific observations and claims instead. You are not someone who can have a true debate, because you have nothing to cite other than anecdotal observations, which is rejected in traditional debate settings anyway. Acting snarky is the only way I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 11:39 PM
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Dual mating strategy has also been disproven by science. Try again. Sorry but your delusion just doesn't line up with scientifically studied and tested reality. I'm sure you think all scientists are blue pilled and are trying to hide the truth 🤣🤣 you're just as bad as anti vaxx people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 11:08 PM
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Yeah. How do you think they became mated partners? Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:51 PM
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this is all challenged in the first study cited on my last link. No offense, but I'll listen to the social scientists, not a rando who is going off on observation, aka anecdote, aka bad evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:45 PM
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Hypergamy isn't an explanation that the dating field is unfair. It is unfair. But hypergamy isn't the reason. Women who want sexually attractive partners isn't hypergamy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:21 PM
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It does, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:01 PM
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a lot of words for "i don't care about logic only feels"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 09:51 PM
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Yeah people on this thread don't know what stoicism is. The misunderstanding that stoicism is "hide your emotions" has caused a lot of problems for people looking for a philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:11 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/kyrqm0/its_a_scientific_fact_that_hypergamy_does_not/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share This post sums up some studies that would challenge that statement of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:37 PM
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It hardly does
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:35 PM
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Dude, "In God We Trust" wasn't a part of America until the 1950s. https://history.house.gov/Historical-Highlights/1951-2000/The-legislation-placing-%E2%80%9CIn-God-We-Trust%E2%80%9D-on-national-currency/ The founding fathers had nothing to do with the terms "In God We Trust" or "under god". That was also not added until WWII. Do your research. It's everywhere on google. Edit: also, you're not required to put your hand to the bible. Jews can put their hand on the Torah, Muslims can put their hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:37 AM
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Not when you divorce because you chose a partner simply because you were afraid of being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:24 AM
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Yeah. An equal partnership takes into account areas of expertise and responsibility. If my husband wanted to buy a family car, it would be a joint decision where no one 's opinion is over the other, given we both work and equally foot the bill. However, since Im not into stocks, they could be in charge of that, if they show more expertise and interest in doing so, and I accept that, even if my money is involved. That isn't "leading". That's just logical to hand over a responsibility to someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:20 AM
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Sure. Ok bud. Good luck with that. Don't come crying to PPD when you get divorced because you think you can "manage" women 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:54 PM
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"women need to be managed" and that's when I stopped reading what you had to say. I do not respect people who think that way. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:51 PM
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Yeah, and most of those women are married. The husbands didn't vet properly. If they waited to marry women in their late 20s/early 30s, they'd see who's high quality and who's most likely to stay high quality. That's when you see who's gonna be fat, have debt and overall be a bad choice. It's a good thing that it lowers the pool, because you shouldn't be getting married unless it's with someone you feel totally confident in for the long haul, not some hottie to bear your children. Men tend to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:50 PM
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What is baggage? If she hasn't been married, she probably won't have kids. If she's educated, she won't have debt. If she takes care of herself she won't be fat. What you're describing is just low quality women, not objective reality for many high quality late 20s/30s people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:21 PM
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wow great response so impressed 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:25 PM
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yeah, definitely suggest therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:11 PM
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Stop comparing human companions to cars. That is such a disingenuous point to make. It's apples and oranges. And if you do see human companions like car purchases, well, I suggest therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:01 PM
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Start taking finasteride and using rogaine right away. My 36 year old bf noticed he was getting a bald patch, got prescribed finasteride and after 3 months has his full head back (you have to take it for the rest of your life though). His doctor actually told him nowindays being bald is a choice. We have the medicine for it. A thinning hair/bald patch man is just lazy. Edit: however, it's too late for someone who waits until there is barely any hair in the patch left, so I guess my other advice …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:58 AM
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Yep! So much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:24 AM
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no where do I say that you shouldn't be dating in your 20s. This paper agrees with me. Also, you must not know what median age means. Those were the median ages for the study. Not the "happiness" ratings. The ones beyond the median age, or the older ones, are who displayed over all better happiness aka late 20s, early 30s, beyond. statistics 101: median= number that lays smack dab in the middle of the sample size. It has nothing to do other than show that participants were either older or younge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:55 PM
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Yeah, that's what's dating is for 😂 but I personally know high quality 30 year olds too, currently dating one sooo. But I acknowledge this is anecdotal, just like your observations are too. What we do know is, based on some studies, marrying later is better than marrying younger. We didn't find that marrying late was negative in terms of future subjective well-being. In fact, marrying late was better compared to marrying early. https://www.ualberta.ca/folio/2018/03/marrying-later-than-or-at-same…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:13 PM
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hm, ok. Well I'm 30F and see high quality unmarried 30 year olds all around. So our anecdotal observations contrast. But my anecdotal observations have nothing to do with my points in the OP. Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:00 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:47 PM
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Look at Wikipedia's page for pregnancy complications. That's were my data comes from. Do risks increase? Yes. But increase in risk does not mean high risk. It's not until after 40 that things start going real down hill for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:55 PM
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Higher risk is still generally low risk. Like I said, the risk increases for chromosomal disorders after 30. But even at 35, the chance of chromosomal defects is still only at .0023%. Did the risk increase? Yes. Is it enough of a risk to center your life decisions around? Well, considering you have much higher risk, .09%, of dying in a car accident every time you step in a car, I think you have better things to be worrying about than complications in pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:30 PM
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They raise in possibility but we're still looking at a <.05% chance for women under 35. For chromosomal disorders, for example, a woman at 35 has a .0023% chance of having a child with those defects. So, that is not a good argument to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:00 PM
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Sure, but that's life for you. If you worry about the risks of every little thing you're going to have a bad time. And the likelihood of getting injured in a war is astronomically more than having complications during pregnancy, so that isn't a very fair comparison. I would listen to an officer as well. A random person on the internet when the stats point in a very different direction? Well, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:15 PM
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I base my decisions on data. Bismarck must have forgotten that way to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:00 PM
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I base my decisions on data. I have a much higher probability of dying in a car accident tomorrow than complications with pregnancy. I'm sure your anecdotes are well meaning but they don't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:59 PM
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Cool anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:54 PM
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See? Low risk, statistically speaking. Glad you're starting to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:41 PM
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I'm in a long term relationship. Maybe they're happier because they also have universal healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:35 PM
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Yeah, and all of those are pretty low risk statistically speaking. Not enough of a risk to base your life choices around. Just because doctors treat pregnancies of women 35 and over differently doesn't mean complications are very likely. A 65 year old man in good health has about a 1% chance of dying of COVID and well, you've seen the precaution we've taken. But I would stop with the COVID to pregnancy comparisons there, since pregnancy doesn't mutate and spread to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:33 PM
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The risk for autism increases 28% after the man turns 40. Both parents ages factor in for the autism risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:30 PM
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I'm happy for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:21 PM
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Or they'll be like "but but but birth defects!" When a 35 year old women has a 0.0023% risk of birth defects 🤣 they are wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:10 PM
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Yeah, and women who are 35 have a 1 in 360 chance of defects, which is also really low risk. A 0.0023% risk, specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:04 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2018-03-happiness.amp
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:53 PM
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Also I've made this point a hundred times but I'll make it again. A 35 year old woman has a 1 in 360 chance of birth defects. In comparison, a person has a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car accident every time they step into a car. You don't center your car driving frequency around that stat, so why do you think women should center life decisions around a much much MUCH lower statistical probability?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:50 PM
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I don't see how determining age off of the individual's birth registry is bad data, care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:46 PM
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people change. physiques change. hobbies change. values change. especially from 18-late 20s. if you can see that good for you but not as many people are as astute so precautions should be put in place so they lessen the chance of getting burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:43 PM
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A woman at 35 has a 1 in 360 chance of birth defects. A person has a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car accident every time they drive in a car. The risks of a bad pregnancy is relatively low, and certainly not enough to center your life choices around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:28 PM
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My post answers why I think that 30ish are ideal. Maybe read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:14 PM
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Sure! I have nothing against people who don't want to get married. Since I want kids, I think a healthy marriage is necessary tho. However, I'm perfectly okay with never having kids if I don't find anyone I think I would want kids with and could see myself having a long lasting relationship with. Not having kids is not too big of a deal for me 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:13 PM
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Because that's the age where you start to really see a person's true colors and long term habits. Easier to break up someone than divorce someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:08 PM
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At age 20, 1 in 1,441 At age 25, 1 in 1,383 At age 30, 1 in 959 At age 35, 1 in 338 At age 40, 1 in 84 At age 45, 1 in 32 Data taken from Wikipedia. As for driving a car: https://www.stephenslaw.com/blog/what-are-the-odds-of-dying-in-a-car-crash/ 1 in 107. Kind of hypocritical. A 1 in 959 chance is very, very low. Not risky enough to center your life decisions around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:21 PM
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These chances are still extremely low, ESPECIALLY with age 35 and below, so these kind of arguments are extremely disingenuous. The odds for birth defects in women over 35 is 1 in 400. The odds in dying in a car accident are 1 in 107, are you against driving cars too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:44 PM
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Right? This guy is worried about a 1 in 400 chance in birth defects for women giving birth at 35 while every day he gets into his car and has a 1 in 107 chance of dying. 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:39 PM
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These chances for birth defects areare still extremely low, ESPECIALLY with age 35 and below, so these kind of arguments are extremely disingenuous. The odds for women at 35 is 1 in 400. The odds in dying in a car accident are 1 in 107, are you against driving cars too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:36 PM
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Spot on, it's crazy how so many people failed to grasp that!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:34 PM
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These chances for birth defects are still extremely low, ESPECIALLY with age 35 and below, so these kind of arguments are extremely disingenuous. The odds for birth defects in women who are pregnant at 35 is 1 in a 1000. The odds in dying in a car accident are 1 in 107, are you against driving cars too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:31 PM
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If youre the chaff and youre married, get ready for some big resentment, dead bedrooms and divorce. If you're the chaff, you are in a lose lose situation, no matter if your single or married. So yeah, don't be a chaff. And in your 30s you'll see who else is truly not a chaff. Those are the people to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:29 PM
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Right? Ex's are the least amount of baggage one can carry in their lives, except for serious abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:24 PM
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Man sluts are not high value people. You're flex isn't the flex you think it is. Sounds like these women are low value as well, so good for you? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:17 PM
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These chances are still extremely low, ESPECIALLY with age 35 and below, so these kind of arguments are extremely disingenuous. The odds in dying in a car accident are 1 in 107, are you against driving cars too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:06 PM
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This doesn't really go against my point other than your age. Hell, date the same person for 10 years with the intention to get married, however, late 20s/30s give you the clearest view of character. Helps in reducing probability of bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:54 AM
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Here's another. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/does-older-sperm-cause-autism And another https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/481752#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20offspring%20predicted,fathers%2050%20years%20or%20older. Father's age matters for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:33 AM
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Or how they have linked autism to the father's aged directly as well. (A 28% increase for fathers after 40, 60% chance increase after 50). I understand listing limitations, and lack of control is a big limitation for sure. But really, the risks are there for both male and female. However, it's still a relatively low risk, especially when we're talking early to mid 30s pregnancy, so it's not a good argument to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:25 AM
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Ok, that's fine too!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:03 AM
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Aw man, it wasn't supposed to be depressing. I love love, but I guess I tend to think analytically about these things as well. Marriage is way to risky to just fall into without some sort of thought before hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 04:02 AM
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So women who don't want those kind of men aren't compatible with those kinds of men? Sounds like it's working the way it's suppose to. Like I said, keep telling yourself that. I'd pick a full head of hair over a bald head of hair any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:28 AM
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Proper diet and exercise is a lot more than 20 year olds need to do to maintain their physique. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:26 AM
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Being fertile for longer doesn't mean shit if your sperm is low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:25 AM
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Yeah and autism chances increases if the man is over 40 by 28% https://www.healthline.com/health-news/does-older-sperm-cause-autism Don't just lecture women on this if you want to make a point. Both gender's ages contribute. But yeah, fuck me for wanting to vet for a partner to mitigate all those points you just made. How else do you think people can avoid that? Not get married? Probably. But other than that the best ways to increase chances for happiness and decrease chances of divorce are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:47 AM
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Yeah, in my mind marriage later gives you the chance to vet more clearly, which can reduce the chance for divorce, which reduces the chance you children will have trauma. Seems like a win in all aspects of your life!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:12 AM
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Oh good! Then you agree people should wait to marry until they're older. I agree, the odds aren't enough for me to worry about a early 30s pregnancy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:04 AM
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My bfs in my 20s did not work out but still had slim soccer player bodies so I guess I can just go off my experience. Jacked gym guys aren't my cup of tea. Soccer player/cyclist bodies/broad shoulders are my cup of tea. Also, you think bald is more attractive??? Keep telling yourself that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:56 PM
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If the father is over 40, the chances for autism increases by 28%. That's a lot bigger odd than lottery. This is anecdotal, but I have autism and my dad was 42 when he had me. It's only level one so I can't be too mad at him though. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/does-older-sperm-cause-autism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:47 PM
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Which is why guys should wait until they are older to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:45 PM
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it jives in the reality of "I want this relationship to last for life" not "wow you look so fertile lets get married have kids and divorce because we weren't compatible at all" which reality do you want? I know mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:27 PM
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sure if you want a higher chance for dead bedrooms, resentment, and divorce because you guys weren't compatible in anything other than youthful sex appeal then go for it. but if you're looking for a life long partner, probably should vet a little better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:15 PM
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it's a term I've created myself in an attempt to give a name to the inability to look at the fine details in a big picture. There is "lack of spatial awareness", and I think that there needs to be similar phrase to describe lacking in the ability to see nuance. It's a work in progress haha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:08 PM
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the delusion is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:56 PM
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then do it? if you learn you don't want to get married, do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:56 PM
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u/chalkandapples I don't personally have a recommendation of when to start dating, just that late 20s/early 30s are the best time for vetting for a life partner. I'd never recommend to young women to casually date. I'm a serial monogamist, and think deep love and respect are the best way to experience a relationship. That being said, I recommend young people to not think of marrying until late 20s/early 30s. Hell, date one person for 10 years if you love them, but long term habits will start to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:55 PM
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those circumstances can easily cause someone to be single into their 30s. According to many people in this sub, 30s are leftovers. So, pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:33 PM
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uh they're not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:27 PM
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yep, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:25 PM
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Done with games is full of resentment and bitterness aka not a good match for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:21 PM
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Unexpected spouse loss, accidents, unexpected family loss. Just because a person goes through trauma they had no control in doesn't make them bad partners or "leftovers"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:21 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:19 PM
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My points on why it's better to wait have already been made. A good partner goes beyond sexy/financially successful. If that's all you have, good luck holding the marriage together. Thus, it is both beneficial for both men and women to vet for character qualities that will increase the likelihood of a long term, life long companionship. These qualities that make life long partnerships are not as easily viewable until later 20s/early 30s. Thus, to avoid possible resentment, dead bedrooms, and div…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:58 PM
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Ok! 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:48 PM
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👌
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:48 PM
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Given your lack of nuance awareness I'm not sure you have dated both kind of women. And your generalizations of women make me even more skeptical. Also why are you still even talking about women, given you've gone your own way? You still seem to reeeaaallly care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:47 PM
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Here I'll give you his number 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:46 PM
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Keep living your truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:45 PM
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Wait what? I'm a 30F woman, I'm saying this for both men and women!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:45 PM
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Then who are the young women going to marry?????
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:44 PM
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/does-older-sperm-cause-autism Chances of autism are higher for men over 40. My dad was 42 when he had me, and guess what, I'm autistic! It's level one tho so I can't be too mad at the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:41 PM
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And yet you still can't tell me how anecdotal data has anything to do with any points or comments made so far 🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:36 PM
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Nice edit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:35 PM
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Thinking the only people left are the bad ones. There are many reasons why a older person is on the market that has nothing to do with their overall value. Many good ones have had shit things happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:32 PM
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No, youre just wrong that they carry the same attitude. They absolutely do not. "Done with games" are women desperate for a relationship. You can be looking for a life partner but not be desperate for one. I've known both kind of women. Nuance is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:29 PM
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I'd agree with this!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:18 PM
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Aka people I would never want to be seen with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:05 PM
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There has been no talk of "data" anywhere in this thread wtf are you talking about. An anecdote is not data. Data is numbers. Charts. Graphs. Patterns. You literally don't understand what data is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:04 PM
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You act like all men care about that. Only religious nut jobs do aka people I would never date
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:01 PM
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And my chances of being in a long term, loving relationship are pretty high 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:01 PM
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You're not a HVM. You're a charade. I didn't "bag" anyone. I'm in a loving, committed relationship. The difference in our language and how we perceive our relationships show me how low value you are. I wouldn't touch people like you with a ten foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:00 PM
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You don't have to mess around before youre ready to settle down. I am 30F. I've never messed around, and have had steady, long term relationships since I was 18 that ended up with me realizing this was not the person for me. I'm insulted you think older women who are not married yet are too busy "messing around". I hope your husband keeps the value you see in him now. I hope you do not end up disappointed and have to give your child the trauma of divorce. I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:57 PM
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The "done with games" mindset is not the same as "looking for a life partner" mindset. "Done with games" is a red flag of desperate, bitter, low quality women. The lack of nuance awareness most people show is this sub is so concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:53 PM
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I never said don't start dating in your late twenties. Don't misconstrue my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:48 PM
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Those are low quality women. If you keep catching those types, maybe it's time to take a good look at yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:47 PM
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And also "I'm a 30M and this is what I think" is literally an anecdote 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:44 PM
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After over a year together, spending time with his parents and family, going to trips together with friends, I think he has "stuck" with me since we first had sex a year and a half ago. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:41 PM
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Lol we've been dating for over a year and are bf/gf. I've met all his family and have dinner with them and we go on trips with our friends together. But yeah I'm a "plate" 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:38 PM
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That's exactly what I'm saying. So don't put responsibility on just the woman to get married quickly if they want healthy babies. Men have responsibility to marry early in their youth too if they want healthy babies, if that's important to them. But I find long term compatibility of a partner more important than children, personally. Divorce is hell for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:22 PM
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You are completely missing my point. You can prioritize LTR in your 20s without getting married, and a lot of people do. I'm not saying that you shouldn't date in your 20s, but that youth creates a smoke screen when it comes to value. A fit 20 something can be fit without working out. But suddenly they're 30 and have a beer gut, and you've realized you've married someone who doesn't take care of themselves. It's just easier to vet for values in your late 20s/30s. A fit 30s male will have to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:19 PM
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I should clarify that getting married in your 30s isn't the same as starting to look in your 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:08 PM
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No, it's fair logic, since he showed his true colors. You must be a 16 year old virgin or socially inept if you think pussy is the only thing men want. Companionship and high quality company is what stable, mentally healthy men want. You've showed you are none of those with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:06 PM
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Men's age effects the health of the child too https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/10/older-fathers-associated-with-increased-birth-risks.html But y'all don't want to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:58 PM
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And why does a female's value go down other than because of looks, which is arguably not even noticably different between 25-30ish given you take care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:53 PM
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For you it's bad. Stop projecting your values on everyone else, simp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:41 PM
2

Meh, whatever you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:27 PM
2

Generalizations and anecdotes are both in the same boat that is "bad evidence"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:25 PM
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So is the guy's that I'm countering. But that's okay because you agree with that anecdotal evidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:16 PM
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Thanks! Yeah if that happens it wasn't meant to be so like it is what it is. Also if he dumped for purely "a younger woman" then I'd be glad because that's shitty behavior I wouldn't want to be dating anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:15 PM
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lol ok bud. Keep living your truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:12 PM
2

You too!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:10 PM
7

Since when did HVM have anything to do with rings? Lol y'all are wild
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:10 PM
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I don't want that yet and he knows it. We're waiting until I finish my masters degree. We've already talked about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:07 PM
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Given I'm in a committed relationship it doesn't matter my standards. Hasn't held me back at all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:04 PM
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All I will say is that we've been dating for over a year and had sex a month after our first date. I don't consider moving in with anyone until at least 2 years of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:03 PM
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I'm 30f, dating a 36 HVM, so can't say I can agree with that given that it's literally happening
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:56 PM
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Yeah, that's a fair caveat. Marrying in your 30s doesn't necessarily mean start looking in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:53 PM
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You too. Never stop living your toxic af truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:52 PM
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Not every male has this mindset. If a male did have this mindset well he's in luck because I wouldn't want anything to do with him either. Win win!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:51 PM
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Thankfully if a male has this "leftover" mindset I would not want anything to do with him so it works out for both of us..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:47 PM
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Defined girlfriend/boyfriend relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:46 PM
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Nope, I have never had sex on a first date or a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:45 PM
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Yeah but your gut at 30 may be way different than it was when it was at 25 if you don't take care of yourself. Sexual attraction is a huge part of relationships, no thanks getting stuck in a marriage where a man lets himself go once his high metabolism wears out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:37 PM
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This screams "I don't know how to have fun" I spent my 20s going to concerts of artists I loved, working on creative projects, graduating college, selling artwork, traveling and getting into niche photography, long distance cycling, establishing myself in my career. No sleeping around required or done. Had great relationships during all of that (still doing that, only turned 30 this April 🤣)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:34 PM
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I mean sure but don't be shocked pickachu if they end up not being the same person you started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:27 PM
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You only are getting leftovers if you're low quality yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:25 PM
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Also breaking up with someone you've been dating for 10 years is a lot easier than divorcing someone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:20 PM
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My suggestion would be to start looking at 27-28; you're certainly not fucked if you start then. Getting married in your 30s doesn't mean starting in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:19 PM
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Right, and most fun in your 20s has absolutely NOTHING to do with sleeping around!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:08 PM
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I agree with the statement. My best partners have been the ones I have approached. Women approaching is becoming more common, I have done it for years and my friends as well. I hope it is a trend that continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:04 PM
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Yeah people are shitty maybe you should think about that instead of thinking it's.women who are shitty. Could literally reverse roles and describe men Ive met. Do I think men are shitty? No I think certain people are shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:42 PM
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Lololol women arent angels and it was men's fault for ever thinking we were. 😂😂 I feel so sorry for your gf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:10 PM
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Sorry that response was meant for someone else but holy fuck dude chill I'm sorry dating is so hard for you but you need to chill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:44 AM
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lol "I'm going to ignore studies done by actual social scientists, you should watch a random guy on YouTube instead" Do you know how dumb that sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:48 PM
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Would love to see those
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:15 PM
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Men literally over estimate their attractiveness more than women. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think%3famp Her experiences align with the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:55 AM
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There is no data to suggest conclusively that social media has "made dating harder". Correlation does not equal causation. You sound like a tinfoil hat wearer to suggest public policy should cater to your feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:12 PM
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You mean become the most generous philanthropist of this century thus far? God I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:04 AM
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Behind every rich guy is a woman sick of his shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:36 PM
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A financially stable and self supported woman sounds like they have a lot of accountability but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:15 PM
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70% of women know how to cook. That is a very high percent of the female population. If 70% of people improved in a study, the conclusion would be "most people saw an improvement". 70% of women is "most women". Thus, statistically speaking, most women know how to cook. 😂😂😂🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:06 PM
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Okay haha let me spell this out for you dum dum. 1)commenter said "most women don't know how to cook" 2) I said no I think most people know how to cook 3) you say "70% of women cook, 48% of men cook" 4) I say "oh so women cook more than men" which proves my assertion most women know how to cook 5) you say I'm moving goal posts 6) you continue to be stupid 7) you are the joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:51 PM
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My response was to someone who said "most women don't know how to cook". I don't know if you are being purposely dense or what
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:46 PM
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What? 48% of men cook and 70% of women cook. I literally see no point of posting this other than proving my point that lots of women cook
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:43 PM
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So we cook MORE than men. Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:40 PM
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Uh where are you getting "most women don't know how to cook?" Most adults know how to cook. Otherwise how would we feed ourselves? lol fuck out of here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:51 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:08 AM
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And where are your sources? Here's mine: men are happier than women in marriage: https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/expert-says-marriage-makes-men-happier-than-women-092140705.html Men are more likely to cheat: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:39 PM
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Women aren't wonderful. Thank God we've realized that more so now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:08 PM
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Also, your statement about height, eye color, etc indicating intelligence, so why shouldn't sex indicate intelligence is an extremely weird argument to make. If height does indicate intelligence, I would say that height and intelligence are both desirable traits, so of course they would be more likely to be together, given their high value and high value traits are more likely to mate. However, sex is not a "high value" trait, its like a neutral in a way, in terms of tributes to a person. So, ey…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:40 AM
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That is an interesting insight and explanation. I think that may be a factor and perhaps true in the beginning, but it is not the sole explanation. That is, I still think that, given women's intelligence, after this accident , it was a mistake for men to refuse to include women in certain important arenas, like philosophy and art until just recently, just like women haven't had a choice in their reproduction until recently. Women are not a monolith, and women who have interests that sway toward …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:11 AM
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I haven't researched the color thing but if men and women only start showing differences in color perception after grade school I'd think there's a good possibility it was socially conditioned too. I try to be as neutral as possible, and that goes for anything women are apparently "better" at too. I just haven't read the studies to look for confounding variables such as social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:06 AM
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I hesitate to say that men are inherently better at women at anything other than physical strength because psychologists and scientists tend to agree that the reason behind these measured differences isn't biological, it's social conditioning. That is to say, something like spatial reasoning is not an inherent advantage men have over women, but that it has been built over time by how men are raised differently than women, giving them that advantage. see: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:39 PM
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I see three paragraphs with no answers at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:45 PM
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How is thinking women are not worse than men in anything other than physical strength "supremacist"? That makes no sense. I never said women were better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:31 PM
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Who hurt you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:10 AM
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I was talking about the monkey experiment. And I also never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:09 AM
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Oh wait? Comparing humans to monkeys is suddenly not okay? That's what evolutionary psychology is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:59 AM
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i don't know, do you think that this sub is representative of women overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:05 PM
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And there was a study done with monkeys and females did exactly what I said: very small preference of dolls over trucks, and they played with both. They concluded that females may have a more expansive interest repertoire than males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:59 PM
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yeah I read that, and scientists still comes down to "it's unclear" because you can't know what babies are thinking and the sample size was like 50 lmao. Also, Cohen is rife with controversy and has had published research debunked before, so he's not what I would consider credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:57 PM
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Newborn females prefer trucks AND dolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:00 PM
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I'm talking about historical contributions in art, science, etc, not current day construction work lol And read what I said about societal conditioning. They may be getting scholarships, but still go through life hearing stereotypical and bias rhetoric that would make anyone more averse to the challenge. Also, women like being with other women, so if a girl has two interests, and one of them is female dominated and one is male dominated, it is common sense that she would choose the female domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:45 PM
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I wasn't talking about manual labor contributions. I was talking about art, science, music, math, etc. You don't need muscles for any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:08 PM
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I don't see how men dominating stem and women dominating social studies has to do with falling birth rates. But I'll give you some alternative explanation to falling birth rates 1) stagnant wages with raising living costs, where two people income is a requirement, not an option 2) the rise of fast food restaurants that provide cheap meals for workers with stagnant wages 3) the world is in a climate crisis, and people are afraid to have kids 4) women would rather work and make money then have kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:58 PM
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What are the statistics? You mentioned none of that in your above argument. How am I suppose to respond logically when you get me nothing of logic and evidence (like these statistics you speak of) to respond logically to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:44 PM
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I don't have evidence, I was just playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:16 PM
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You are attributing that to the "fall of society". I disagree, and think you have no evidence of that, thus it is superstitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:07 PM
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Or maybe we are?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:04 PM
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I love my life. The idea of having babies right now repulses me, but go off!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:27 PM
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no, it followed what the head of society wanted. To make more soldiers they couldn't have women wasting time for things other than making babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:25 PM
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I read your argument but that was the only point worth responding to. The rest was paranoid superstition and blame games.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:04 PM
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look at the rhetoric of this sub and try to say that men don't look down at women with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:02 PM
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a woman in my cycling group had a funny thing to say about that: "when my husband and I were dating his apartment always looked great, but when we got married it's like he forgot how to work a vacuum and expected me to do everything"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:48 PM
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Don't make claims without evidence to back it up if someone asks. Debate 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:20 PM
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Lol literally the op that I'm responding to thought men were better than women because they haven't historically contributed like men have. You say it's "other women", no, it's men saying these things. I linked it right there, but of course no one is going to read my argument in full and make points that are demonstrably false. Men have historically looked down on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:17 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:57 AM
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But this is not simply tech contributions. I'm talking of medicine, art, music, cuisine, etc, those historical contributions that you can think of many men icons but not women icons, even though that was fields that are very much "biologically" female interests. Women were not encourage to participate and in some cases outright banned from participating, which lead to less women contributions in those fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:50 AM
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People are interested in different things, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:45 AM
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Women who are SAHM have a 16 hour shift. Even women who work part time also do way more house work, which puts them in to also work more than men when inside and outside the home work is combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:40 AM
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Yeah I saw the graph. Like I said, equal under law doesn't mean there lacks any sexist conditioning on what is expected of men and women, and no financial burden to have them pick a field despite feeling outnumbered in. Social pressure is a huge behavior shaper. If you think you will have a strong community within one field and not another, you will want the one with a strong community.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:31 AM
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Sure buddy. the person who lead the development the COVID vaccine was a woman, but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:16 AM
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I didn't read it all, but I think it's pretty telling that the countries with the lowest financial prospects have the highest amount of women in stem. This looks more like a measurement in economic opportunity. The STEM field is vicious for women, I've heard countless accounts of women who pursue stem or show talent and are torn a part by male favored bias. Stereotyping and different treatment is still very pervasive in fields, no matter how "equal" we seem by law. And when you have financial pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:05 AM
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I don't need to tell you the details. Believe what you want. I know the industry very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:27 AM
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Do you have a source for the claim that countries show more of shift to traditional gender roles with more equality? I'm skeptical that it's so cut and dry like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:26 AM
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You don't know my speciality, but there are literally not enough of us. Nice try tho :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:24 AM
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I'm actually in a specialization of psychology that is looking at 80k starting after I graduate and will be with only 30k debt. Debt sucks, but I won't be paycheck to paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:21 AM
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Read my post, I am talking about contributions IN ALL FORMS
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:18 AM
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We are not unlike other animals, but we do have something unique: cognition and language. This complicates our development as a species and what we consider predictable given our shared DNA with other species. Humans aren't special, but we are unique. We have language to shape behaviors. Our life experiences are shaped through language. To discredit how it shapes human behavior is a mistake when observing how our species got to where it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:13 AM
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lol as someone who is a grad student in psychology I can assure you that's not true with the internet fact thing. Way to discredit a whole field now that women control it while Frued is regarded as an icon back when women were not even allowed into some colleges, much less encouraged to study psychology. The conditioning that society places on young men and women are extremely powerful and effective. I study its effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:00 AM
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Ok, I do not. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Because this is way more complex than just something you see in your very very small perception
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:56 AM
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I need a source for that claim bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:50 AM
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Yeah, and women weren't allowed in the fields to make contributions until just 100 years ago. So of course women couldn't make contributions, they were literally disallowed. Not because they were not intelligent or because they had no interest. Society did not encourage it or allow them to be interested. See the women who were rejected from schools because they were women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:50 AM
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My claim is that men are not better than women because they have more historical contribution in art, math, science, etc, (which must mean men are smarter, more creative, than women), but because society's expectation of women disallowed them to follow that path, not because they are less smart, less creative, etc than men. This is a response to a post that claimed men ARE better than women with the amount of historical contributions im science, math, philosophy, art, music, being proof. I do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:21 AM
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They were actively raised and conditioned to not do so. Women were banned from studying medicine until the late 1800s. If they didn't want to study medicine, why did schools have to actively disallow women from joining?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:16 AM
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I'm not saying we don't need you. I'm saying you aren't better than us. I'm saying that this is a reason of the discrepancy. Men didn't even let women excel in their own creation. That's why there's more male artist legends. More male musical legends. More male cooking legends. Men's manual labor had very little to do with food, art, and music. That was women's work. And just because men made tools to make machines to make x-rays doesn't mean women had a right to be banned from the lab.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:10 AM
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lol ok keep living in la la land and pretend the experts don't know what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:04 AM
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Yeah, it is amazing you mentioned manual labor which had nothing to do with my point in the OP, but I rolled with it and gave my opinion, then you called me amazing for making a hypothetical situation in my head on the point that YOU made, which still fails as a response because men's societal contributions (think Van Gogh, Christian Dior, Ernest Hemingway, etc) included women inovation, such as painting and other arts (the first novel writer known to exist was a female). Amazing. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:00 AM
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Okay, in a vacuum yes, it's more effort. But the world isn't in a vacuum. Men today do yard work once a week. Women do house work every day. That tips the scales a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:46 AM
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However house cleaning is much more frequent than yard work. Yard work is a once a while thing, house cleaning is every day. So that would even out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:39 AM
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Look up literally any sciencific journal and they'll talk about the study on how male and females have been brain scanned to have no cognitive difference when it comes to math and the gap is purely social conditioning. I'm not going to hold your hand. I go off of research. This has been researched.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:19 AM
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I would feel sorry for you but actually I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:13 AM
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lol ok reading your ladyness loud and clear ms. lady
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:10 AM
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I did not experience that, but ok. Think men are better than you, good luck in life with that mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:09 AM
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Lol okay lady womanson, your ladyness is loud and clear
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:05 AM
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She toured with Mozart, did you know that? But they stopped her from touring with Mozart when she was betrothed to get married. Mozart continued to grow in fame, and she didn't. That's why we don't hear about her. Mozart had to privilege to perfect his craft, but her family stopped her development.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:00 AM
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read the entirety of my post. I'm currently getting my master's in psychology and conditioning plays a HUGE role in how children grow up and how their interests form. Women are raised to believe that they are worse than man at math (a researched and concluded FALSE claim) and end up being scared of pursuing computer science degrees. This is just one of many examples as to why you still do not see many women in STEM fields. The fact of the matter is that society will take a lot longer to change a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:56 AM
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We do know about it. Look it up. Mozart's own father says in archived letters that his daughter is more masterly than Mozart 😂😂 It took me about two seconds on google it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:50 AM
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yikes, the internalized misogyny is strong. Women literally created tailoring and dress making, but everyone takes men more seriously to the point women have to fake being men to get respect in their work lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:46 AM
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I'm talking about discoveries and contributions in science, art, music, math, architecture, etc, not manual labor. Manual labor was easily countered with gathering and cooking, something anyone would say is of equal importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:43 AM
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uh.... ok? Don't see how this relates to my point in any way but nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:36 AM
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This post is a direct response of a post that DID assert that men were better people than women because they do stuff that is not raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:34 AM
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You completely missed the point. This post is a response to another post saying that men are basically better than women because they've contributed science and women contributed babies historically. So, if you want women to start reproducing more, maybe stop making it seem that men have the more impressive contributions when we were not even allowed to make those contributions. you get me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:27 AM
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Mozart's sister was considered a better musician, but while their family built Mozart up, they stopped her from touring when she was to be married. That is why there is not a Mozart equivalent woman, not because she did not pursue it since she did not need to use it for sexual competition. Her family had her stop to marry her off. And while you can say that was her primary value, hundreds of years later men think that women are not as skillful at things because "they haven't historically contrib…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:17 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:29 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:26 PM
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Western media has made hindered both some men and women into taking accountability, but in different ways. However, your blanket statements and obvious sexist targeting makes any point you may have fall on deaf ears to anyone of reasonable mind. You don't understand what emotionality is. Your comments are riddled with debate 101 fallacies and emotional wording that which makes them both unrespectable and borderline comical. You are not worth talking to any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:24 PM
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Men: women are so emotional Also men: YoUR beING brAINWasheD bY tHE MeDIA and itS rottING yoUr FeMalE BRAiNs Ok dude. Good way to make absolutely no one take you seriously. Also, accountability or lack thereof is a human issue, not a gender issue. The men i see lacking accountability is about just as high as women I see. Some men and women suck. Shocking, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:15 PM
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Yeah yeah keep the emotionality up to 11 bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:09 PM
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Claiming someone is in a fantasy land that has caused her to not think straight is absolutely a bad faith argument and riddled in fallacies. But I do not want to discuss anything more with you. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:03 PM
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Saying someone can't have good faith arguments while making bad faith arguments with strawmen 😂😂😂 the lack of self awareness is strong. I'm not upset, I'm entertained.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:59 PM
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you: you're not someone you can have good faith arguments with also you: keep living in your Disney/cosmopolitan fantasy land
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:56 PM
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How does it not contradict? Highly educated men want to marry highly educated women. They care about status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:45 PM
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lol you don't know how to read graphs do you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:47 PM
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I'm confused as to why you don't think women also use career to determine character? Loser men have loser jobs. Loser woman have loser jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:10 AM
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You're delusional if you think anecdotal evidence means shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:31 PM
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What is your source that women have "lots" of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:24 PM
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I was never arguing with the woman thriving point. It was a direct rebuttal against keeping a man = relationship thrives logic. Nice deflecting tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:30 AM
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Also, I wasn't ever expressing that point. I was responding directly to keeping a man= relationship thrives. Nice try at deflecting from the point tho. Classic case when you have no rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:28 AM
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Do you understand the difference of being an effect and being a cause? Having sex with someone you love might have the effect of keeping them happy, but you are not doing it to "keep them happy". Having sex with someone you don't love, however, to "keep them happy" is a deliberate cause and effect. I'll let you guess which "keep them happy" is the unhealthy one and why semantics are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:51 PM
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actually, no. Doing something to "keep" anyone is deliberate and love, respect, etc does not necessarily have to be present. (Think a disgruntled wife having sex to "keep" a husband happy) Doing something because you love/respect someone does "keep" them, but it is an effect, not a cause. nuance is important, and this definitely is nuanced, which is why appropriate wording for this is necessary. They are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:38 PM
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Read the comment thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:23 PM
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"keeping" anyone happy is horrible wording and is a misrepresentation of what makes long lasting relationships. If you're having to "keep" anyone, you're going to have a bad time. I would never describe as taking out the trash for my bf as "keeping him happy". I would describe it as helping someone I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:16 PM
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I'll bite. "Keeping a man" is not a healthy reason to both 1) be in a relationship and 2) stay in a relationship. If that's your idea of thriving I'm going to guess you're not a woman lol If a woman sees "keeping a man in a relationship" as thriving she has a lot of issues and is most certainly not thriving as a human being
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:02 PM
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Yeah, we do want smart and funny. And good looking (plus other things depending on the woman). If we meet two guys that are smart and funny but one of them is more attractive than the other which one you think we're going to pick 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:59 PM
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Okay but this is all a human's interpretation. So I disregard all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:27 AM
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That is a human interpretation of success. And you could easily argue human reproduction does not counter entropy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 02:39 AM
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I never said subjective interpretation was right. And randomness does not exist in any sense, mathematical or otherwise. Success is a human construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 02:07 AM
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just because we're predictable doesn't mean there isn't subjective interpretations and subjective does not mean random. you are on a good start with the deterministic universe but still have a lot to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 05:51 AM
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Does that make "proper gaming" glorified Thorndike boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 11:16 PM
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And then you divorce later because the older you realizes he wasn't the right person. Yah no thanks. Some people will meet the right person in their 20s and some will meet them in their 30s. If a guy is insecure about that he doesn't sound like marriage material anyway. I don't regret not marrying my LTRs in my early 20s. They weren't the right person. I knew that then and I know it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:22 PM
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We're all trying to find our best match. Whether it happens in your early 20s or early 30s, we're all trying our best. And if it doesn't happen, well, good thing hobbies exist. But why would I want to have children with someone I don't love, admire and respect? I'd rather be alone than be stuck with someone I settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:13 PM
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Yeah, and they're being "fuckolded" by their future husbands who were also having sex with other people before they met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:21 PM
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That's not specific. Specific would be interviewing thousands of women, concluding that a significant majority has had sex with men they wanted to marry but were rejected, and ended up settling for the man who they are married to. Unless you can prove to me that the majority of women think this way, you've done nothing but make a long winded post about nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:07 PM
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Funny that you're asking for specifics, given your whole post is a sweeping generalization. That's not how observations work. You need to be specific before you can make generalizations. Unless you interviewed thousands of women and their preferences, you haven't made an observation or generalization other than a extremely bias and out of touch one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:21 PM
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psychological pain is super complex and environmentally based. It's based on a learned history of whoever is feeling it (source: me, master's student in behavioral science). Fetuses have no such learned history, so I'm skeptical of them having "psychological pain", especially without a fully formed neural system. You're going off on hypotheticals now, which is not worth my time. It is a classic feature of literature to point out possible weaknesses in the study (that's how we grow as a science!)…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:46 PM
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the only website you posted to me was a website made for expecting parents haha is that scientific to you? You gave me one article, I'll give you one article. You said it was wrong that fetuses don't feel pain until around 24 weeks. You may want to talk to these scientists mr. know-it-all: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/ (an actual scientific source)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:32 AM
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lol strong words coming from a bub who is neither willing to learn nor debate honestly himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 12:01 PM
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Your all caps wording, passive aggression, and use of Goodwin's Law are all signs of emotionality. You're just not in tune to your emotions. And it's okay to be emotional, but not a good way to convince someone of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:40 PM
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Listen, I get it. You're a father, so you're going to be more emotional about these kind of things. And that's okay, it's normal to have strong emotions, but the logic just isn't sound enough to see embryos as having the same value as a fully formed human. It's a morally and ethically grey area, so I actually don't think at this time there is a "right" answer. It's no use continuing this conversation, because I'm not going to convince you of anything and you're not going to convince me of anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 05:41 PM
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Most abortions happen in the embryonic stage, or the very early fetus stage, so you're making moot points. I never said it wasn't alive. I said it wasn't a fully formed human. Plants are alive, plants move. Microbes are alive, microbes move. Being alive isn't exclusive to the human being. What makes humans so special to you? I'm genuinely curious. (If you're concerned about pain, fetuses cannot register pain until 24-28 weeks. But again, most abortions happen in the embryotic stage or the early …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:12 PM
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"I feel like a clump of cells and a fully formed human are the same" is not good enough proof that fertilized eggs and fully formed humans need to be viewed the same way. Men and women are both fully formed humans with fully formed nervous systems. Your comparisons are weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:06 PM
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A clump of cells and fully formed humans with a fully formed nervous system are different. This is a medical fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:21 PM
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haha oKaY
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:57 AM
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Lol you have a lot of growing up to do my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:55 AM
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Instagram feminists? Maybe. Feminist social scientists and philosophers? Like I said, bold claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:53 AM
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Bold statement to make without anything sources yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:08 AM
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Lol you aren't going to die without pussy. Bad metaphor is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:27 PM
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correlation does not always equal causation. There are is a correlation between the amount of ice cream bought and drowning deaths in America, does that mean ice cream causes drowning? come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 09:35 PM
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