tankerton Archive

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1	Everything is misogyny!!! Yeah, I do mean close friends or family. They do perform therapy albeit in an extremely different way than professionals. I just wanted to use a clear example of someone who temporarily undertakes stressors for the sake of another in a healthy relationship. I specifically wanted to provide an example that's completely decoupled from this specific discussion. Say what you want about the recent usage and its impact. The concept is legit and shouldn't be discredited based on some people stretching …	/r/MensRights	26/11/17 02:43 AM
1	Everything is misogyny!!! Being someone to talk to when you've undergone trauma, like losing someone close to you. The person who regularly checks in with you, undergoes the stress of being an untrained therapist, and helps provide the survivor with the basics so they can heal better/quicker. Or a more relevant example, dealing with the creepy family member at Thanksgiving. The concept isn't really new. Your emotions can be taxed just like your muscles. There's a reason therapists are mandated to talk to other therapists…	/r/MensRights	22/11/17 04:56 PM
11	This week on Parks and Rec: "Men's rights is nothing" Piggy backing top comment for something no one is really seeing... Negative press has worked very well for the MRM in the last year. What ends up happening is that otherwise neutral parties or very aloof feminists see something really dramatic and then investigate the issue to get to understand why the drama is happening. It's part of human nature to be curious about things like that. Since the MRM has a very telling name, to neutral and aloof viewers of a hate message, there is an immediate bac…	/r/MensRights	13/02/15 07:45 PM
2	Even Computer Science is going the way of favoring women I realized I don't enjoy staring at a computer 8 hours a day. I'm hoping to do some sort of project management or sales position with my computer science degree so I can work more with people than data. First, good on you for finding what you love. Any "major" in college is just a drop in the bucket of the industry/academia that it surveys. Finding your specialty takes some risks in work. Second, I can't recall the actual studies but there are studies pointing toward two things. One, that boys/m…	/r/MensRights	26/08/14 08:02 PM
9	Karen Straughan Aka GWW - AVFM Men's Conference Detroit 2014 If someone asked me why I am skeptical of feminists as a whole and someone who backs MRA, I would bring up this video. GWW always has good content, but this feels almost as a complete history of that misconceptions of feminism's acts that are inflammatory to those who are for equality. Alone, this video comes off of with the vibe of anti-feminism that the MRM has been tagged with. The vocalization of GWW's anti-feminism sentiment in her introduction, above being a MRA, helps defend the movement …	/r/MensRights	30/06/14 01:11 PM
2	Feminism "puts women on the level of a vindictive battle": Pope Francis As a born and raised Catholic... You're looking at changing practical dogma where the priest acts as Jesus incarnate during every mass and many major ceremonies. Confessions, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, the blessing giver of communion. Jesus was male and it wouldn't make sense to have a female be his image, his vessel. The notion is completely outdated but it is hard to break this justification in both the authoritative sphere (Cardinals, Bishops) and the public sphere (Church goers that…	/r/MensRights	11/06/14 01:12 PM
1	Karen Straughan: Elliot Rodger, the MRM and Detroit She discusses the framing of the mass murder moreso than anything about the murderer himself. She has a few points about his personality, but it is more of a summary of how feminism framed Rodgers/MRM in the media and how they are acting in relation to the Detroit conference. It's more of a summary vlog, something I would shot a friend if they wanted to be clued into the issue only knowing fragments of the popular hearsay.	/r/MensRights	05/06/14 12:42 PM
2	Stanford grad students want men accused of rape kicked off campus altogether while the school's investigation drags on for months Nothing against the science and those who practice it/further it meaningfully, but the undergraduate education is fairly watered down. It is an extremely popular subject, something that makes any department much more difficult to give a strong education. For a lab/experiment based science that requires human resources about the human mind, something we barely comprehend as a species, it makes it damn near impossible to give the same level of experience in labwork that, say, a physics department …	/r/MensRights	04/06/14 11:08 PM
3	An open letter to North American feminists Frank, Thank you for expressing yourself. Taking the risk, even if only on the anonymous internet, is a first step toward breaking a social norm for being a "man". Whether or not your message gets heard by those who don't already agree with you, I don't know. Take this time to feel good about expression. I agree with you very much on the point that feminism and men's rights do not need to be so hostile toward each other. I'm still under the assumption that most feminist, assuming we're not preju…	/r/MensRights	03/06/14 04:57 PM
2	Let's exclude more men from the field of programming - er, let's make everybody bend over backwards to make it easier for women (but just women) to get into the profession We're now stepping into some different issues that I don't want to touch with a 10 foot pole before I do some more research for myself, so excuse me while I sidestep some of the things you bring up. Male college graduates are more likely to be unemployed out of college, even in tech. You also find that e.g. there is a pay gap by degree, but not by occupation. That is, women don't apply their degrees the same way men do. To say that women would be "otherwise willing" is to deny they already have …	/r/MensRights	02/06/14 05:46 PM
2	Let's exclude more men from the field of programming - er, let's make everybody bend over backwards to make it easier for women (but just women) to get into the profession I respect your experience in this. I suppose my knowledge is that the more we get to taste tech fields the more will stay, in a sense. While still wet behind the ears, I understand that there are fields more intriguing to women getting their education (and the same to men). It is interesting to see that trends snap back so quick after money is taken away from promoting the interest. One interesting question I really want to have an answer for is this : Why, as a woman, do you not want to study c…	/r/MensRights	02/06/14 04:43 PM
2	Let's exclude more men from the field of programming - er, let's make everybody bend over backwards to make it easier for women (but just women) to get into the profession This has nothing really to do with weakening the skill level of the profession. Women can be very good programmers the same way men can be very good programmers. Success rates, and I am sorry I cannot cite this because I learned this in a sociology lecture at my school, between men and women are fairly equal. IE 85 out of 100 women succeed in the program once started and men succeed in 85 out of 100 as well. This is at the academic level and business is different, but it puts women on an equal p…	/r/MensRights	02/06/14 01:31 PM
1	Let's exclude more men from the field of programming - er, let's make everybody bend over backwards to make it easier for women (but just women) to get into the profession This is a gender issue that I've been involved with at a personal level, because this is my profession of choice. I see many of the issues that plague the "programming" profession at the population level. One of the major ones is gender dominance, which I will speak to in this post. Like all professions, I believe practices of the programming profession will become stronger over time. However, I also believe that it takes a lot of diversity to change high level practice (changing how programers …	/r/MensRights	02/06/14 01:21 PM
0	'So, who's the extremist here?' I'm not suggesting you do more. Just clarifying a solution to your statement, I do not see how I could get a more "credible" quote from either than in the actual letters they wrote that I cite. Direct quotation is damn credible but still can be disputable along the lines I listed, if someone wanted to reach far enough.	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 04:44 PM
2	'So, who's the extremist here?' Well, this is why we have this problem in the first place. People jump to conclusions in general, Feminism's major influential authors have been critical of Men's Rights, and Feminism's supporters are far and wide. This creates a chaining effect that causes events like what you're reacting to : Men's Rights being claimed as a hate group. When you write about the issues we have and fight against the stereotype of a MRA with moderate amounts of attention, you'll find feminists that have latched on…	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 03:41 PM
1	'So, who's the extremist here?' I think the idea /u/Legolas-the-elf is trying to get across with... Have you gotten in touch with anybody from these organisations? Some kind of official link would boost your credibility significantly. ... is that a blog of a short interview, even a snippet of direct contact addressing you specifically, would gain you direct credibility and give you the most powerful evidence that the organizations agree with your viewpoint. You cite them using their own words in their own context without them …	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 03:24 PM
8	'So, who's the extremist here?' I don't typically read Men's Rights content outside of reddit. I've been lurking in this community (and many other viewpoints of gender politics to assess their actions for myself) since around Thanksgiving or Christmastime. This type of information is critical for anything meaningful to change about the way we talk to each other. It is a calculated, well cited, and well written piece. The outrage of the claims is taken in turn and is released in a well thought out blog. Many of the posts in /r/…	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 03:08 PM
4	Females privileged over males in highschool? My experience as told by a highschooler To truly change the world, the ideas that shape it must be well written. Tumblr and most blog based feminism writings are, on the whole, untrustworthy and are written for their audience. Feminism at a truly academic level, the kind that is policy making, is scrutinized in the same way. I'm not saying that feminism taught in academia is correct, just held to the same written formatting standard.	/r/MensRights	17/03/14 03:34 PM
1	Where the fuck does a guy get a part time job? I know it's frustrating, but look at refining your process. I am in the process of preparing myself for the road of getting my first professional job out of my undergraduate degree. The entire process is about learning how to sell yourself better and making a consistent story that the potential employer wants to hear with some evidence that it is true. Do you call in to check in on your applications? Do you hand them in person to the manager/supervisor? How well written are your responses to per…	/r/MensRights	10/03/14 08:26 PM
1	The representations of the female body in video games and movies are unrealistic and unattainable Please supply me links. Need to witness to believe this crap.	/r/MensRights	27/01/14 08:10 PM
4	23/F here: I'm conflicted about society's insistance that I be an "independent" woman because I don't think it is attractive. Something about what MRM, egalitarian, and "pure" feminism movements is a freedom to choose your gender roles. Plenty of men feel satisfaction in being the strong guy who can move things or remain rather emotionless in times of crisis to better help the situation or being the primary bread winner in a family. Plenty of women want to be the kind of person to provide emotional support, raise the kids, and cook the meals. The sexist views to these roles is that people force them onto a gender and l…	/r/MensRights	21/01/14 07:15 PM
2	2013 Movies With MRA Topics I'm not sure that the protagonist being a woman has much to do with that. It is an interpretation, but if the leads were swapped I don't think the story carries any different of an impact on me or anyone I've seen it with. FFS If I were in space I'd be having trouble too!	/r/MensRights	21/01/14 06:20 PM
5	First honest feminist in history: "If you think 'Women and men disadvantaged equally in different ways' you are a misogynist (article in comments) Thank you for the original story. The flowchart, out of context, makes light of a lot of portions of gender-equality movements. Though, the post is a bit misleading. Misogynist isn't mentioned in the article, just non-feminist. The method the author is defining feminism is a method of isolating women's issues with gender inequality. Basically, if you're not for working solely on women's issues and not 100% sure that women are getting the short end of the stick, the author doesn't want to associa…	/r/MensRights	09/01/14 06:53 PM
2	IamA student that hears college rape cases AMA While I understand there is a punishment of the claim being intentionally falsified, I was more interested in the "leaking" of information. Since they write the information, they can leak it. I take this on your word because I don't know anything about these types of proceedings. It is my understanding that the potential backfire on the defendant's life via leaking information from the plaintiff's point of view can be far greater than a small school probation sentence. I am all for the secrecy o…	/r/MensRights	20/12/13 10:23 PM
3	IamA student that hears college rape cases AMA If I may indulge on a large assumption, let us assume the plaintiff has made an ultimately false report that has credibility behind it enough to go under consideration. There are two scenarios I'd like to hear about. First: What happens if the claim was false and that the plaintiff uses their private documents to hurt the defendant in public? Second: What happens if the claim was deemed too ambiguous to conclude that the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt and the plaintiff uses their pr…	/r/MensRights	20/12/13 09:55 PM
4	IamA student that hears college rape cases AMA Do the claims that go under investigation become public in any way? Will the initiator know until there is a ruling that there is justifiable evidence? I just see this as a flight risk, gender neutral and policy/law neutral, that if something becomes publicized then social repercussions happen before anything gets proven. Specifically with the idea of sexual assault, there can be a lot of consequences within the hiring process to have investigations ongoing or even ones that stick to your record…	/r/MensRights	20/12/13 08:52 PM
1	Getting divorced turns men into slaves I agree with your sentiment. I just know that I have no power to change the law as it stands, it would take a decade for me to be able to understand and bring a strong argument as to why and be able to defend it properly.	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 11:22 PM
0	Getting divorced turns men into slaves Part of this is that this settlement isn't a continuous distribution. It is discrete at the time of separation. It doesn't account for layoffs for either party, nor new jobs, marriages, etc. as they happen. Oh did my small business not make my expected profit this month? Shit...I can't afford all my bills and child support! This is a bit of a small micromanagement, but you definitely understand what I mean. I'm not in the field, but I imagine it would be very difficult to make adjustments to the…	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 09:31 PM
5	Getting divorced turns men into slaves I've seen it happen at a store with my bare eyes. It is sickening, and very much against the purpose of foodstamps. Something tells me the store clerk who knew them rang it up as an equivalent priced non alcoholic item for the stamps to work.	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 09:09 PM
2	Getting divorced turns men into slaves I am sorry that you're in this situation. Very much so, there is a reason this movement needs to be heard and its for things like this. While child support and visitation rights for separated parents may be a good idea, this example of its implementation is just a representative that they can be abused harshly.	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 09:07 PM
1	Getting divorced turns men into slaves One thing you forgot about slavery, "an individual is forced to work against his or her will". There are two parts to this which made this willful. First, the man decided to have the child. Maybe not directly, but any sex is a risk even if protected. Unless you're wanting to claim the OP's SO and all men who end up paying child support were raped, that is a degree of freedom to enter this potential playing out of things. Second, divorce is a choice. Both parties must sign. The end. By signing, t…	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 08:49 PM
1	Getting divorced turns men into slaves I appreciate you ignoring my intent of post. I'm not saying the child support is right or wrong right now. I am saying there is nothing we can do for this individual's case. By waging a war of "child support inequality" on this case, this particular member cannot sustain the fight without an enormous amount of charity. We cannot guarantee that would happen. So, instead, what can the OP's SO do? He can educate himself in a meaningful skill and push toward moving on in his career from the unstable…	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 08:25 PM
2	Getting divorced turns men into slaves While we are in /r/mensrights, we have no idea if child support was justifiably given. All we know is that the OP's SO's ex has the child's custody and thus has child support. Until I am given further evidence, I'll assume the court was fair. Contrary to all the cases we see in /r/mensrights, there exist at least one family court which is/are fair. The OP's SO is living on minimum wage at a full-time commitment. I am a student and I am making more than him monthly after I take out of my pay for …	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 07:49 PM
20	Getting divorced turns men into slaves It is obvious that you're in a state of outrage, and rightfully so. There are always loopholes in government programs with currency because money can be used for everything. Even things like foodstamps can be used for alcohol, and foodstamps aren't "real" currency. It is unfortunate that this situation happened to your boyfriend and that he is put into a monetary hole from it. I do not know the specifics of the child-custody hearing, other than he has no custody and has to pay for child support.…	/r/MensRights	18/12/13 04:58 PM
1	I find it interesting that Feminists claim to want to break down gender roles. Reality says otherwise. I am, in fact, a man.	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 10:51 PM
1	I find it interesting that Feminists claim to want to break down gender roles. Reality says otherwise. It is clear I have much more to consider on this topic than I thought I did. Thank you for your time and explanation, but I'll choose to withdraw from my understanding on this topic due to serious foundational issues with my understanding of these underlying structures.	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 07:52 PM
1	I find it interesting that Feminists claim to want to break down gender roles. Reality says otherwise. First point : Basically, I am setting up that it was hard for me to look at your argument in because I associated "real" feminism with egalitarianism. Second point : I am in fact new, and I should probably lurk more. That being said--this is the first time I've experienced well-defined feminism not being stated as a pursuit of equality. I am no expert, so I apologize. Third Point : I ask the question rhetorically for the followup that even though many people actively participate in egalitarian m…	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 07:22 PM
0	I find it interesting that Feminists claim to want to break down gender roles. Reality says otherwise. Hm. It's hard for me to accept this because I typically think of feminist as the typically quiet of the actual feminism movement, rather than the vocal minority (assumed), where someone who is identifying as a feminist actually has no dissonance in their understanding of what it means to treat men equal as well. When I switch my mind to think of the false identifying "feminist", to which you're referring, I do understand where you're coming from. Now the question becomes--who are we more likely …	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 06:35 PM
-1	I find it interesting that Feminists claim to want to break down gender roles. Reality says otherwise. I apologize, I said what I did in a fit of overly tired and emotional misunderstanding.	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 05:00 PM
-6	I find it interesting that Feminists claim to want to break down gender roles. Reality says otherwise. I don't include male feminists in this because frankly I don't think they think for themselves, and that is actually a compliment believe it or not I'd like your explanation of why not including male feminist is ok, and also how a male feminist who doesn't think for themself is a compliment. I'm sorry for the text I edited out-- it can't be unsaid but I clearly read your argument in a manner that I wanted to and didn't see your real point. I took quite a bit of offense to the comment I specifica…	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 10:19 AM
1	A co-worker of mine discovered BIC's new line of pens, then promptly bashed & publicly shamed every guy to comment on her link. A semantic of the argument is transgender identification (M->F, F->M) and genderless. In truly formallized documentation, they are a small portion of the the writeup to say that trasngender identification should best identify with the gender they feel closer to and that genderless are rare enough to be omitted from these arguments without loss of sexism. I am actually interested in some of their references (though I doubt them...) about gender neutrality in a biological sense outside of the clea…	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 09:44 AM