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| 7 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp men | Discussion | taway991111 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:39 PM |
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| 1 | Delusions of Grandeur and "Fake it till you Make it."Yeah, it makes you more successful if you're willing to delude yourself. If you value an accurate picture of the world, you don't make it as far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menNot really. Also factor in women don't really put physical/sexual attraction on a high pedestal. I would say the reason for this is because there aren't any attractive men around to put on a pedestal. Also, who cares if a woman doesnt find a guy physically attractive? If she's throwing pussy/love his way, that's all that should matter. Incels, this OKC study is fueling stupidity when the conclusions drawn from it are definitely not completely sound. I'm offering an alternative interpretation tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Men who are in relationships: is there a female friend you like who you would leave your partner for if she expressed her interest for you too?No way, I would never do such a thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menFor one, those with the highest SES are the ones with the fewest kids. SES--> more money on clothes, appearances --> more attraction --> better mate selection. So ugly guys will not die at any point ever. I think I see what you're saying, that the super hot men of today will never have enough children to cause any change in the average facial attractiveness of males in a population because they simply won't have enough children to make any bit of difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:28 PM |
| -2 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menWe'd have to take it up with OKC, if you're saying their data is bad then it undermines the whole thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:19 PM |
| 0 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menIf 80% of men are a 4 or below, and only 20% are a 5 or above, then who are these women pairing up with? There's only 20% of men to go around that are attractive at all. Don't confuse what a man thinks a male 4 looks like vs what a woman thinks a male 4 looks like. A woman would probably call what men think of as a 4/10 man as a 1/10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menI can type it because of this line from the okcupid blog: Our chart shows how men have rated women, on a scale from 0 to 5. The curve is symmetric and surprisingly charitable: a woman is as likely to be considered extremely ugly as extremely beautiful, and the majority of women have been rated about “medium.” The chart looks normalized, even though it’s just the unfiltered opinions of our male users. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menI'm talking about the results. I'm suggesting that since women never got to pick chad, and were forced to marry ole fugly face instead, their sons are gonna be fugly. If women had the option back in the day and we were matriarchal, then today men would be beautiful and women would be plain. Just like birds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menClarify | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:02 PM |
| 0 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menThis is OP, I think there's a good case for saying female attraction works the same as male attraction. If you put a man in a town with 10,000 women. And 80% of those women are 1s 2s and 3s, well he would probably care a lot more about personality confidence and vibe too. I think women's behavior would change quite a bit if instead of only the top 3% of men being "jump his bones now" hot, a whole 30% of them were "jump his bones now hot". You'd be walking around like a kid in a candy store, wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menYeah I agree that definitely has some merit, if men put as much attention into their looks as women, then it would adjust that curve quite a bit. And the same for women if they didn't do shit and never wore makeup, then I bet that pretty bell curve would go poof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menYeah that is what I am suggesting. It is simplistic. I think it's less likely that men are simply being fair and women unfair than it is that there has simply never been selective pressure on human males for beautiful faces. Now that there IS, because of the internet, we have all the incels. These guys are the ones feeling the pressure, they'll die off. The pretty men will have more kids, and eventually the average facial attractiveness of men will rise. Granted it would take a long fucking time… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menFacial attractiveness is what I'm talking about here, I should clarify that. This is why I put the link about the infants. Infants know who is hot and who is ugly without any exposure to any beauty standards at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:39 PM |
| 5 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menYes but "women find less men attractive" would be the expected result if most men are unattractive. If we take 10 men and put them in a line, and then reorder them based on attractiveness, 8 of them will be "unattractive" or "neutral" to women. The guy in the middle, yeah he is the median, but he is not the mean. If I put a man in a room with a bunch of 1s 2s 3s and then one 9 and one 10. He would rate them the same way. It makes MORE sense that men are simply ugly, rather than women are l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:35 PM |
| 3 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menYes, women want men near top of hierarchy. Men to do, hence despite rating attractiveness fairly still sent the vast majority of messages to the 9s and 10s. I don't think this has anything to do with how the women felt internally about the attractiveness of an individual man's photo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menI'm going to steelman your argument for you to save some time: I think what you want to be saying is that women select for attractiveness LESS than men, because there are other factors that matter more to female sexual selection, like how good her man is at staying alive and providing for her. That's still a far cry from your OP which said that women never had ANY ability to select based on looks. Also it wouldn't have been that easy to just "steal a woman" as you assume, most prehistoric humans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:11 PM |
| 3 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menOh sorry I see what you're asking. I guess I need to make that part clearer. When I say select based on attractiveness, I mean as in choosing who they reproduce with. So ugly men who were simply strong and good hunters still had a bunch of kids. Just being ugly didn't mean you didn't have the strength to kill some other man and drag his woman back to your cave and make her pop out 20 kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menHow do you explain women's preference for tall, fit, lithe, deep-voiced, hunter-eyed, square jawed, robust faced men then. What do you mean, they are physically attractive to women. It doesn't need to be explained. There's so few of these in existence that it doesn't matter however, and regular guys aren't necessarily competing with them. I'm n ot sure what you're asking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Effects of the OKC blog post on incel/mgtow/rp/bp menMost men are not unattractive, but most men may not be attractive at first glance. We agree, and at first glance is all I'm talking about When I refer to attractiveness in this post, I'm referring ONLY to physical attractiveness, as in you see a stranger, and make a quick judgement of "I think his/her face/body is hot or isn't hot." Men see this study and assume that if 20% of men are attractive, it follows that 80% of men are unattractive. The truth is that a quantity of men are attractive, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Girls and their orbiters are a mutual beneficial relationshipThe guys get to be in the company, if only online, of a girl which is probably way above what they could otherwise get. This is not true. Those same guys can get with girls often much more attractive than the girls they are "orbiting". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Is Perceived attraction fairly equal between the sexes, or is one sex more subjective than the other?A large majority(65%+) of men are not physically attractive to women A majority(50%+) of women are physically attractive to men This says nothing about men's and women's preferences. Men are, on average, just ugly. Women are more beautiful. For thousands of years men have selected what woman will have their children. His face did not matter, what mattered is that he is bigger and stronger or has more resources and power than other men. Arranged marriages, women being property, rape. Whatever, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 06:12 PM |
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