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| 1 | Is true love even real…?Unconditional love doesn't exist outside of familial connections, and if it does, it's very rare. I used to believe this until I started mindful meditation and did it for years. Unconditional love absolutely can and does exist, you can cultivate it. It just comes with the understanding that love doesn't always mean being together. You can love someone who cheated on you but still know that the relationship has to be over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:07 AM |
| 4 | Is true love even real…?It's kind of a dumb saying. It's just asserting that something is true without really elaborating on it. If it's "just your turn" simply because it's possible she ditches you, the same is true of dogs since it's possible they can ditch their owner for someone else, albeit rarely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:06 AM |
| 4 | Is true love even real…?Actively disliking dogs, on the other hand, means you're a psychopath. That's a weird opinion. And that's coming from someone who's had lots of dogs and loved them all. But depending on where you live... It's pretty easy to dislike dogs. In some areas dogs are just little yappy trophies that wives buy to take with them to the mall. And in some areas they're just chained up crazy fucks that are only in the yard to scare people off because they will kill you if you get too close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Is true love even real…?Setting aside the fact that this isn't possible and thus isn't practically relevant -- if you want to approach it like a thought experiment... I would stay with my wife. Because... I love her? For who she is. And I wouldn't just replace her with someone else like she's a car being upgraded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Is true love even real…?Imagine this. You dream partner. Fulfills EVERY wish you have in a partner. Sensual. Sexy. Charismatic. Perfect. Would you not dump your current partner to go be with this person instead? You made up this hypothetical and it presupposes that you can just go find someone "perfect" which is a rather absurd presupposition. So sure, in your hypothetical made up world where a "perfect" partner exists and you haven't found them, maybe love is stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:01 AM |
| 18 | Marriage is a trap.And now that you've signed the contract, when you breakup you have to have some judge get involved, especially if you have kids. If you're a man, its likely that you'll have to give some of your money to ex-wife, especially if you were dumb enough to fall for the trap of playing "traditional" roles where you're the only provider. I mean, if you own a house together and have kids together, a breakup is going to involve court anyways, if you can't work out a joint agreement that you both agree to.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Marriage is a trap.yes, but it's also a ceremony where people stand in front of their families and promise to never leave each other and then they still do it half the time lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 05:55 AM |
| 3 | Keke Palmer and the warning signs of an abuserbut most women I hear from on this issue are way too paranoid to hear my perspective rather than assume my views. You mean online? That's because they're the only ones who talk about it. It's not reflective of real life. There's tons of girls who want a "traditional" boyfriend / husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 05:54 AM |
| 3 | Not all psychopathic men are master manipulators. Lots of women date guys who are walking red flags.OP is wrong and is conflating sociopathy with psychopathy. Sociopaths are impulsive and violent and have outbursts. Psychopaths are cold and calculating and tend to not make mistakes like that. They are very charming and don’t just beat people up out of anger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 06:34 PM |
| 4 | Does it really matter if women don't actually have a headache when they just don't want sex?This post is about the „one off“ I have a headache. This comment chain within the post is a response to your question — “why does she need to get in the mood —“ etc. I responded by saying nobody “needs” to do that, but sexual satisfaction matters in the long term. If you think men wouldn’t make a fuss about that, than just say that. In my top level response, I said what I think about the OP — which is that honesty is what matters. In my response to you, I said why I think it’s important for peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 06:32 PM |
| 5 | Does it really matter if women don't actually have a headache when they just don't want sex?First of, nobody was talking about a dead bedroom. So why do you assume that? I am not assuming it. I am mentioning it as a possibility. I would assume that someone who is discussing problems with mismatched sex drives is generally not referring to one isolated instance where someone said no. And nice, that women who have the need not have sex at any given moment are „selfish“. Disgusting, but typical strawman you see on reddit. Just take what the other person said, completely twist it into some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:36 PM |
| 8 | Does it really matter if women don't actually have a headache when they just don't want sex?Sexual satisfaction of both partners is a strong predictor of long term relationship success. Nobody "needs" to have sex or get in the mood, just like nobody "needs" to listen to their partner at all. Divorces are an option, everyone has the right to be as selfish as they want. But it would be denial to pretend like not trying to solve a dead bedroom problem will allow it to simply go away | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:11 PM |
| 3 | Does it really matter if women don't actually have a headache when they just don't want sex?Who said anything about chore play? He said a hot bath or dinner and wine. That's not a chore lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:10 PM |
| 8 | Does it really matter if women don't actually have a headache when they just don't want sex?That said I think men over estimate the use of headache as an excuse. That's kind of irrelevant in the context of your post though, which was to ask the question "why does it matter if she actually has a headache", which is to ask "why does it matter if one is lying" Lying means there's a serious problem. It means she either feels she can't be honest, or knows she can but decides not to. Either way it's a big problem. If she feels she can't be honest, she's either afraid of how he'll react (whic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Does it really matter if women don't actually have a headache when they just don't want sex?But anyways what's the alternative? do you want her to just dead fish lie there and have sex with you? Or do you want her to fake enjoy having sex with you? wait are you being serious? the alternative is... honesty. I'm kind of blown away by the question. the options you are weighing up are: lying, lying, or being miserable?? what?? you either lie about the headache, lie about enjoying the sex, or just have sex you don't want?? what the fuck is so hard about saying "I don't want to"? your post i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Not all psychopathic men are master manipulators. Lots of women date guys who are walking red flags.I think you are mixing up psychopath with sociopath. sociopaths are the ones who tend to have emotional, violent outbursts, are overtly and notably selfish, etc. sociopaths have empathy, it's just lesser than a normal person, and they're more selfish and impulsive. psychopaths on the other hand are totally empathy-less, they are cold and calculating. they are actually well known for their "superficial charm" making them very hard to detect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:02 PM |
| 5 | Why is there no #TradHusband movement?I think a lot of the """Tradwife""" content creators are just manipulating their audience, knowing that their (mostly male) following is just drooling over them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleYeah you know the thing is there seems to be this knee-jerk aversion to anything that paints men as being at a disadvantage. That might be the case but is totally unrelated to my point and not something I participate in. There are lots of areas men have a distinct disadvantage. The fact that a lot of women aren't satisfied from one-night stands or situationships going nowhere doesn't mean they still don't have it easier than men in dating. I didn't say they don't have it easier in dating. I said… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 03:08 AM |
| 1 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleThe part I disagree with is that the only 2 options are constant casual sex with hot guys or not using the apps. I don't think I said that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 03:04 AM |
| 2 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleYeah my point is basically that it is contradictory to simultaneously hold the belief that women are getting fucked constantly by "chads" on dating apps that don't actually ever want to commit, and the belief that women are getting a benefit out of these dating apps. They can't both be true unless you believe that getting fucked constantly in your 20s and having nobody commit and then having to find someone who you suddenly feel is "beneath you" is a benefit lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:00 AM |
| 2 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleIdk what 9/10 is to you but most of my friends met their girlfriends through an app and they’re not 9/10 chads. Some are tall which helps but also some are like fairly average looking dudes who are 5 foot 7. They’re in decent shape but nothing super special. And they seemed to do fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:13 PM |
| 8 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleonline dating works great for women because they have the upper hand […] later women realize the guy is player and blah blah blah, but still they get good dates, free food, nice sex, etc. even if commitment is rare These two statements are contradictory if you accept the position that long term love and commitment are what leads to happiness in the arms of someone else — as opposed to sex and dates. I think a looooot of people are jealous of how easy it is for women to go get fucked in the back … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:06 PM |
| -1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menAll psychologically normal men instinctually are attracted to biological cues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:02 PM |
| 3 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menwhich is also very strongly biological. you do not get to choose what traits attract you. just as men are attracted to physical traits because they imply fertility, they're attracted to personality traits that imply survivability of their children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menwe r not slaves to biology in some cases you kind of are. "nature vs nurture" doesn't mean that you can choose to stop being attracted to a hot 22 year old girl with wide hips and perky tits. "nature vs nurture" doesn't mean you can choose to become attracted to a dying 75 year old with diabetes and gangrene on their foot. attraction is pretty overwhelmingly biological. people have been trying to choose what they're attracted to for a very long time and failing to do so. none of your explanation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menI do not think the experience you're talking about is generalizable. Poor, young, drunk and high girls living in a country in turmoil who are having random unprotected sex in an alley at a party aren't representative of most lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menCan you link a few? I think I have read this but I'm curious what references you're referring to since study design matters a lot. Nonetheless it does seem like a fairly intuitive result, but I'd guess there's a limit to how much of those traits are helpful. A woman may be attracted to a slightly sociopathic trait that implies selfishness and willingness to use manipulation to get what one wants, but I doubt she'd be attracted to a full on ASPD person. People are naturally afraid of psychopaths … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:58 PM |
| 8 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menyou keep using this word "unhealthy" but it's probably more likely to be a biologically engrained response. since men throughout much of history had the role of being a protector, a woman would be at an advantage if her man was sociopathic to an extent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menI didn't lie or pretend I was something that I wasn't. In fact I broke many cardinal red pill rules, such as, I cried in front of her when I was drunk shortly after we met. I'm like 5 foot 10 and I think average looking. Still got laid and then we started dating. So your statement is wrong in at least one case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:55 PM |
| 0 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menEveryone is shallow, it is kind of ridiculous to say otherwise. There's overwhelming amounts of research on this topic. People form first impressions of you in SECONDS. They decide how trustworthy, how strong, how honest you are by your looks. And men absolutely are shallow too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menHow is it coming up, are they just randomly asking you if you've had a girlfriend before? I can't recall that happening to me in the past, but I haven't casually dated for like a decade, maybe things have changed. Yet I do wonder here if you're either giving off vibes that you haven't been in a relationship which leads them to ask, or if you're just volunteering the info. With that said, you don't have to answer lol. It's none of their business. I would not lie though, because (a) I think it's m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for menI simply don't believe this. I think you're suffering from recall bias, as well as simply misinterpreting situations. It may be true that in many cases, lying, holding all else equal, gives a man a higher probability of finding a one night stand. But I actually think more honest men tend to do better regardless. Honesty does not mean being an open book all the time. Someone can ask you a question and you can just... not answer it. Like, someone asks you how many girls you've been with.... that's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.Most of human history you saw lots of naked bodies No, you knew 100 people or less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:29 AM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearA very small number? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.Men are becoming less thirsty for IRL women, look at a lot of asian countries where dudes are just swearing off dating and it's happening here too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 04:44 AM |
| 3 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.N=1 sample | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:04 AM |
| 0 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.Im not an extreme outlier by any means. As people's interest in sex with their own partner decreases their overall sex drive also decreases due to age and a lack of novelty for sex, not just from specifically getting bored of their partner. If this was the case, eventually people would even get bored of attractive porn girls and then it wouldn't matter. You really do not get it at all. People get bored of the SAME partner. They want novelty. This has been proven. And no, it's not because of agin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.There is a big difference between vaccines killing people which can and has to be proven to be useful and accurate. I can't tell if you're saying there is scientific evidence of vaccines killing people or scientific evidence of vaccines being useful. There's no scientific tests that take into consideration how one truly feels after such periods of nofap except subjective evidence That is untrue. There are fMRI studies on porn addicts. I mean there's really no reason to limit porn intake unless y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Who told men that being nice will get them laid?I really don’t know what to tell you. Sometimes there really isn’t any advice to give. There was plenty of advice I could have been given I just didn't have good source of it. I think we largely agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:48 PM |
| 0 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.You can see on reddit there's many posts about not even just no porn, but nofap itself having no effect on people. I don't know what kind of evidence this is supposed to be. I can also find many posts on reddit about vaccines killing people. The site has many millions of people. People posting about something in some vague number (like "many") means nothing. Regardless, I don't think that most people couldn't quit porn if they wanted to. Most people aren't addicted. Most people just don't see a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:13 PM |
| 5 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.I suspect rather strongly that someone who has no sexual release for 6 months and sees zero change in their sex drive is an extreme outlier, and not the norm. It's biologically paradoxical. I will point out that someone who is able to abstain from porn simply due to being "busy" is quite far from a compulsive user anyways. Most guys genuinely would have difficulty trying to just cold turkey quit watching porn for 6 months. When watching porn, I believe the majority of people can view it as just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:05 PM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearSo your worldview is that attraction with wildly deviates from the norm, such as homosexuality, or even perverse attractions such as necrophilia, exist in reality, but 25 year old woman preferring a 40 year old man for reasons other than money literally happens 0% of the time, never in the entirety of all of human history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:15 PM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearOr they could just literally be attracted to the older man. But I'm going to let that other user pretend that does not exist, even in a world where necrophilia exists. Women can be attracted to other women, to literal dead people, or to varying shapes and sizes of men, but cannot possibly prefer a man in his 40s? LMAO | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:13 PM |
| – | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?I require trust in my relationship. I'm not staying in a relationship that doesn't have it. You may consider that outlandish, so it's a good thing we're not dating. I'd vastly prefer to try to work out issues in a relationship, even if they seem difficult to work out, especially if there are children involved who will be raised in a separated household if those issues aren't worked out. I would agree that remaining in a relationship with someone who simply cannot trust you is unacceptable, what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:12 PM |
| 7 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.Sorry I used too many words. My overarching point was that the constant novelty of porn blunts the real life stimulus, not that porn makes you unable to have sex with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 07:08 PM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearActually you said 25, not “early 20s”. So okay let’s go with that. One hundred percent of women aged 25 who date much older men are just looking for a meal ticket. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:54 PM |
| 7 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.No, these are not counterpoints to my theory. Number one, sexual arousal being somewhat dulled isn’t incompatible with men still being willing to date. When I quit using porn, I was still willing to date the same people, I was just far more appreciative of average people’s looks and didn’t view everyone as “mid”. Secondly, the issue with porn is the novelty. This is self-evident — studies show people get more excited by new partners but a study shouldn’t be necessary for you to believe that, it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:53 PM |
| 13 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.This is based on an outdated view of porn. All types of bodies and figures are represented. You do not understand the mechanism at play if you think a variety of body types being available neutralizes the effect. In fact it only makes it more powerful. The issue is precisely that we are wired to crave novelty, sexual arousal is increased with novel partners. Throughout most of human history you could not see 100 naked bodies easily by just clicking around, and have them all be the type you like.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:49 PM |
| 7 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.I dont even understand how porn “affects mens beauty standards”. There are tons of body types in porn. It is honestly very very simple. Throughout most of human history it was not feasible to see 100 naked bodies of the exact type you’re maximally attracted to, over a 30 minute period, just by scrolling a website. Now, you can. The brain adapts. This is self-evident to me. If a guy stops watching porn, over the course of weeks to months he will find himself far more attracted to average women ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:46 PM |
| – | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?No, I think it's quite selfish and immoral that I'm expected to stay in a relationship that makes me unhappy. This is why the divorce stats show women initiate divorce way more often than men. Because of shit like this. Guy asks you for a paternity test and now it’s not possible to be happy apparently. Extremely unforgiving. By the way there are other reasons for a paternity test other than just an affair. Babies can be accidentally switched up in hospitals. It happens way more often than it sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:44 PM |
| – | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?There exists overwhelming amounts of evidence that being raised without a father, or with a stepfather, results in significantly worse adult outcomes. Moreover, merely asking for a paternity test should not, in isolation, lead to the conclusion that a happy and trusting relationship is not possible. That is throwing the baby out with the bath water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:41 PM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearOk. What you’re saying is true of 100% of women and isn’t a generalization. This squares well with real life because uncommon sexual or romantic preferences do not exist, everyone is attracted to the same thing, which is why homosexuality and asexuality don’t exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:39 PM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearOh hell yeah I love to get in on the daily armchair psychoanalysis thread in this sub. You have to realize when you say these things you're making huge leaps and wild generalizations right? Do some men say these things, like "you'll be ugly after you hit 30 and no one will want you", out of bitterness and fear? Sure. Do some say it because they actually believe it? Also sure. And some of them are confident and have their own shit in order. I think my time in college kind of destroyed this idea t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:20 PM |
| – | Men scaremonger women about being old and alone because that is their fearbe realistic; no 25 year old Don't start a sentence with "be realistic" and then make an unrealistically sweeping generalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Who told men that being nice will get them laid?Okay. Then square my exceptional academic performance and test scores with my attempts to date using popular media strategies as an 18 year old? You can believe whatever you want, people are giving you answers to your questions and if you don’t like them you just dismiss them as only applying to dumb people. Even your post displays a lack of ability to cognize. You state that you “cannot fathom” how someone may have been told to be “nice” because it would help them get laid, simply because you d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Who told men that being nice will get them laid?Romcoms and TV shows aren’t real. They are fictional. Most people understand that by middle school. What do you want me to say? Yes I intellectually knew that Ted Mosby didn’t actually exist but if you want to express surprise that children and even young adults may copy / replicate behavior they’ve seen on TV then I don’t know what to say. I was smart enough to be two grades ahead in science and math courses, but apparently not smart enough to figure out that talking to girls like Ted Mosby in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 05:15 PM |
| -1 | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?Why do comments like this always gaslight people by implying that a request for a paternity test can only be prompted by “insecurity” and it could never be legitimate, valid suspicion of an affair? “Insecurity” has become the new cop-out in a relationship. Girls and guys will go out and stay out until 4am doing cocaine and come back without their clothes and then say “why are you so insecure you don’t trust me” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:17 PM |
| -2 | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?This is not the answer for fucking anything, you have lost the plot. It’s over the top, almost cartoonish levels of overreaction. Guy asks for paternity test, guess it’s better for my child that they’re raised by a single mom! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:15 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?He's free to want to know 100% the kid is his. I'm also 100% free to not want to raise my kid in a household where dad can't trust mom Least over-reactive PPD user Lmao at “he asked for a paternity test so I decided it’s better that my child be raised literally without a father despite overwhelming evidence that adverse outcomes are absurdly more likely for children raised by separated parents from a young age”. Like Jesus Christ get the fuck over yourself. Guy asks for a paternity test and your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:14 PM |
| 6 | What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons?It is utterly and completely absurd to describe your child being swapped with someone else’s at birth as a “happy mistake”. Beyond comprehension | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Who told men that being nice will get them laid?Pretty much every mainstream romcom or TV show a kid would watch shows that kind of thing tbh. I don’t know how someone could be confused about where it comes from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:07 PM |
| 2 | I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %The way you lift matters too. Volume helps a lot. But yes some people don’t grow much size. However a newbie who literally doesn’t lift failing to add any size when starting to lift is not believable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 10:11 PM |
| 2 | I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %So, first of all, in reading this, it is extremely apparent that "evolutionary psychology" is not synonymous with "our behavior can be explained by what traits would be naturally selected for". It sounds like evolutionary psychologists believe in a heck of a lot more than that, such as that the brain is made up of "modules" specifically selected for very narrow purposes, which is clearly bullshit. So, in criticizing evolutionary psychology, or finding criticism of the field online, you are not f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:39 PM |
| 24 | I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %And that still represents an absolutely tiny portion of the population. almost 3/4ths of men are overweight or obese, it's over 2/3rds at this point. I would hazard a guess that having 15% or lower body fat and hence having visible or near visible abs would easily put you in the bottom decile of body fat content, meaning only 1 in 10 men are that lean or leaner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:17 PM |
| 1 | I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %It makes no sense to dismiss "biology" as a cause of attraction, assuming you accept evolution. Selective pressure would be the greatest force impacting our attraction to one another, men who are attracted naturally to things which are correlated with fertility would reproduce at far higher rates than men who are attracted to, say, wrinkles and sun spots. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886920303603 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %I used to like evopsych until I did a deep dive into its true methodology and right now it's basically in the 'slightly more true than chiropractory." in terms of scientific merits. If you do more research you will also learn this. instead of just saying "if you do more research you'll agree" can you actually elaborate? I actually think the vast majority of issues with modern society can be explained by considering the delta between the environment we are biologically programmed for and the envi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 08:12 PM |
| 2 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?I trust the data. What the data says is that 5% of men claim to be having sex with 5% of women. That is what the data says. There is no arguing this. Survey data only allows you to conclude what people are saying. It is not like a blood test where you can report concrete results. because it doesn’t support your worldview actually my worldview is that the people are likely telling the truth and very few women are having lots of casual sex. just because I disagreed with your assertion that data "d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 07:24 PM |
| 2 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?The "girl next door" on a porn site is the girl next door, a 5 or 6. more than 2 out of every 3 Americans are overweight or obese, you are not really understanding what "5 or 6" means if those are meant to represent average people. a girl who's skinny and has a nice face is already far more attractive than the average person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Morals don't matter compared to how attractive you are physically, socially, and sexuallySaying that there’s 7 billion people on the planet is a gross simplification. It’s like saying “Don’t feel sad over not having significant other because there’s still lots of people. You’ll find one” No it's not like that at all. It's not even tangentially related. I was addressing only your claim that morals don't matter, because some celebrities get away with violating them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 06:30 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.She's actually ASPD and BDP which I didn't realize until someone pointed out the profile. Which makes this post make a lot more sense. If it seems like it's callous, lacking in empathy and psychotic it's because it's posted by someone with antisocial personality disorder who's on antipsychotics. No judgment from me, someone doesn't choose to have ASPD and lots of personality disorders suck to live with, but it certainly explains this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:16 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.holy shit this makes so much more sense, I did not realize their past posts were about having ASPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:13 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.stop. check their comment history. they spend all day here posting hundreds of comments hating on men. they clearly have had some horrible experiences and there is NOTHING you can say to change their mind. someone that committed to their position is never changing their mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:08 PM |
| 0 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?Do you literally spend all day here hating on men? Every single comment I’ve seen from you is just hating on men, literally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:13 PM |
| 3 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?No, this is true and there’s data to back it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:12 PM |
| 1 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?A small subset in an already niche forum They said “the average guy” isn’t worried about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:10 PM |
| 1 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?No. There’s data which suggests that is what people claim when they’re asked on voluntary, self-report surveys. As a statistician I never trust such conclusions, but you shouldn’t need a degree to understand why it’s tenuous at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:08 PM |
| 7 | So, what is the solution, in your humble opinion? Date someone you are not attracted to?But what we shouldn’t support is delusions. If you know deep down in your heart of hearts, that the kind of partner you want would not want to date a person like you, I think that’s the right time to re-evaluate your standards. Okay but if you presume that attraction isn’t a choice, you’re basically telling people to change something they can’t change. Personally I think social media and porn have a role to play here though. The “girl next door” type on a porn site is a 9/10 in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:06 PM |
| 4 | Morals don't matter compared to how attractive you are physically, socially, and sexuallyThis is a classic case of cherry picking. There’s 7 billion people on the planet. Just because some unstable lunatics wrote love letters to serial killers doesn’t mean morals “don’t matter”. Just because celebrities get away with lots of things and their fan base will still swoon over them doesn’t mean morals “don’t matter”. Those things are arguably exceptions that prove the rule, to be honest. In the vast majority of relationships, people care about the moral compass of the other person. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:03 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.You cannot divorce looks from personality since there is an indirect causal impact. Better looking people get treated differently by society and thus on average will have different personalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:00 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.Yeah, those things are totally mutually exclusive, it’s unreasonable to expect honesty and still retain your right to be upset 🙄 this shit is the most childish logic. “You asked me to me honest so why you mad?” — said the toddler | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 02:59 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.It’s your own volitional choice to believe men are replaceable by a vibrator and a paycheck. That’s the sad part. I’d never date someone who posted something like this even if they were the hottest girl on the planet, cooked like a God and whatever else stereotypical things men want — because at our core what we all want is a deep connection, a loving companion, someone who laughs with you. I value that more than anything else my girlfriend does. I value our connection and shared companionship m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 02:57 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.But most don't actually bring those things to the table. Most don’t bring companionship to the table? What do they do, sit and stare at a wall and be verbally non responsive? Who are you even dating that they don’t offer companionship? I suspect someone has to continually make horrible choices to somehow fail to find a man that will offer companionship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 02:53 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.It’s funny how much you hear “don’t objectify women” today but this woman just straight up said they don’t need a man because they have a vibrator and make their own money, and a golden retriever apparently is a better companion. If a man posts this about a woman (I.e. “I don’t need a woman because I have a flashlight, make my own money and have a cat”) they’d be sent to the fucking moon lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 02:51 PM |
| 1 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?still maintain I interpreted the trends in the data accurately though; the data I cited does support the idea that average people do not engage in hookup culture It doesn’t though. It supports the idea that the average person claims to not participate. Check out https://datepsychology.com/is-self-reported-sexual-partner-data-accurate Seen it, and seen all those methods before (they are, after all, part of a statistics education) and I am telling you they’re very weak. It’s total guesswork how mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 02:47 PM |
| 1 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?What is a piece of data I have misconstrued? Every study I have cited I represented accurately in terms of the numerical findings. I am accurately reporting what the data says. If you want to say that the data itself does not actually align with reality that is a different issue. No, this is not true. I quoted the original portion of your comment I disagreed with, and I'll quote it again: However, average people still do not engage in frequent hookup culture. https://www.bustle.com/p/the-size-of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:17 AM |
| – | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitReally? Link to this? Sounds really interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemsomething seems off. are they saying wholly 60% of single people aren't looking for anything at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipsThey said this: Thats where the situationship comes in. What happens is women go on date, expect awesome sex, and then kind of continue dating and sex without talking about commitment or where the relationship is going. This effectively becomes the new form of casual sex. Women nor men aren't going out and hooking up, they are molding it into situationships. I see this a lot. And given that exclusivity isn't mentioned, it's pretty clear people are doing this with more than one person. I didn't s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemI do not see that in that source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:39 PM |
| 2 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?Well that is why you look at multiple surveys. No, this is the second most common statistical misconception I see repeated ad nauseam. If the issue with a study is inherent to its design, then larger sample sizes or replication do not remedy the issue. For example, a design that underestimates a proportion due to relying on self-reporting, will still underestimate if you run the same study 10 times, in fact, the expected amount of under-estimation will not change. If there is a generally establi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:38 PM |
| 0 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipsThat's not what OP described so maybe I'm just missing definitions here, but they were talking about someone casually dating multiple people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipseven 5,000 years would literally be a blip. humans are 200,000+ years old and our nearest neighbor homo Erectus are 2+ million years old | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitI think essentially everyone agrees an """unresolvable""" issue means you should divorce. The obvious subjective line is what issues are """unresolvable""" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemfair enough. I didn't even read it that carefully. It could be a crap study. and as a statistician I should know better! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemhmmm interesting. is that in the same source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 09:11 PM |
| 7 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitNow you're redefining words. I don't like getting my flu shot, I do it because I know it's the right thing to do to help protect others. The definition of "like" (in this context, not the "it's similar") context, is something you enjoy or wish for. Thus, I do not like getting the shot, but I like the things that getting the shot may result in. Your kind of thinking is a convenient excuse for people to be shitty because they can convince themselves they have no free will, no volitional ability to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:48 PM |
| 3 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipsThat is not what is being discussed. A "situationship", having casual, consequence-free sex with lots of people is what's being discussed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:44 PM |
| 8 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitWhy else do people get together other than “because I like you”? Why do we do anything anymore save “because I like it”? This is hedonism. Sometimes I do things I don't like, because I know they are the right thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:17 PM |
| 4 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitWhats the alternative? Don't make empty promises? That seems pretty intuitive to me. Have your wedding and stand up there and say "this ceremony is to incentivize us to work on liking each other" instead of "we will be together forever no matter what" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:17 PM |
| 10 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitWhat the hell is the point of marriage, a whole ceremony where people promise to stay together forever and support each other “for better or for worse” if it actually means “as long as I feel like I like you”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:06 PM |
| 4 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipsOkay first of all, the earliest mention of birth control in this article is 4,000 years ago, mentions nothing about how widespread it’s use was, nothing about efficacy and certainly absolutely zero evidence that people thought it was effective. Secondly, that absolutely cannot be compared to modern birth control with 99.9% efficacy. If your position is that sexual behaviors haven’t radically shifted in response to widespread, easily available and well known birth control methods with high effica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Dating in your 30s for a guy is way easier as long as you have your shit together.Both of you are arguing with N=1 sample sizes. It's possible OP is far better looking than they realize, or just really lucky. It's also possible you're worse looking than you realize, or there's something else you don't see that's preventing you from being successful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:56 PM |
| 6 | Dating in your 30s for a guy is way easier as long as you have your shit together.Wtf? Their post mentions looks once, only to say "decent looking", and the rest is about having your life together | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:56 PM |
| 4 | Too much about high standards but what do they really mean?They're saying that is because we are exposed to extremely good looking people constantly on the internet, and it conditions us to want something far more unattainable than we would have for the past 250,000 years of civilization if you lived in a tribe that was a hunter gatherer 10,000 years ago you wouldn't think the other 5 girls your age in that tribe were mid. Because you wouldn't have instagram to see the plastic surgery perfect looking 19 year old with huge tits that don't sag and perfect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipsI'd argue that anything that started within the last 100 years is still a "shift" on human history timescales | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:52 PM |
| 12 | Dating has shifted in gen z and millennials to where most women are having "situationships", as in casual sex with the possible future promise of relationshipsOn the scale of human history, it literally cannot be old behavior. Modern birth control has only been around for a blip in history. Casual sex had far more consequences before modern day. You couldn't just go around sleeping with random people because you felt like it. On top of that, for most of humans' several-hundred-thousand-year-long-history, the number of partners you'd ever encounter was tiny. In modern cities, you can meet more people in a night than most prehistoric humans would meet i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitThis is subjective. It depends on how you frame it. Obviously, women view it as men being too lenient or forgiving, while men view it as women being too unforgiving. In the context of marriage though, where a promise is made to stay together for life, it seems like maybe that promise shouldn't be made. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:49 PM |
| 8 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitWhile I don't disagree that being permanently unhappy is unacceptable, this logic kind of makes a mockery of marriage then. People stand up there and give their vows to be together forever no matter what. Then they break them 50% of the time. Stop making that promise if it's empty. "for better or for worse" turns into "as long as I'm happy" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:48 PM |
| 4 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitGay men, on the other hand, have much higher cheating stats. Source? AFAIK, gay relationships are far more likely to be open or polyamorous. Where are you getting the stat that they cheat more often from? Also, note that all cheating "statistics" come from voluntary self-report surveys, so they aren't as reliable as something like divorce statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:47 PM |
| 23 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitand no-one really has a decent argument against it. The most common counter-argument I see (and it's also the one people use to justify the vast majority of divorces being initiated by women) is basically reframing it as "doing what makes them happy as opposed to staying in an unhappy relationship". Basically, the claim is that women and men are equally bad at conflict resolution and equally likely to become unhappy, but it's just that women will initiate divorce while men will stick around and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:45 PM |
| 9 | Statistics on lesbian relationships prove that women are the problem more often than we'd like to admitThe divorce rate argument is separate from the DV one though. So when you say "this is all based on [...]" that's not really true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:43 PM |
| 4 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemI should clarify. There can't be 60% of women in committed, monogamous relationships and 30% of men in committed, monogamous relationships. Someone is cheating, lying, or being lied to. They did post the survey and it paints the picture that women are saying they aren't single when they really are because the man hasn't committed to them. They're lying to themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:40 PM |
| 3 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?If you are a statistician you will know that plenty of psychological and sociological research relies on self-reported data. Yes, which makes it shaky. Its not ideal Anything other than an RCT is not ideal, yes. And causes significant issues. Self-reporting relies on honesty that cannot be verified. That’s not arguable. but has been accepted as a valid method of data collection. Accepted by who? What does this even mean, it’s been “accepted as a valid method of data collection”? Of course you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:24 PM |
| -2 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships probleminteresting. yeah that provides evidence for your point. either the men are lying (saying they're single when they're not) or the women are lying to themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:00 PM |
| 9 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemproof? there can't be 60% of women in relationships and 30% of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:59 PM |
| 0 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemlink to study? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:39 PM |
| -1 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemYou think men cheat more than women in committed relationships in their 20s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:33 PM |
| 2 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?However, average people still do not engage in frequent hookup culture. https://www.bustle.com/p/the-size-of-hookup-culture-is-being-greatly-overestimated-report-finds-its-having-some-damaging-effects-61050 I'm not super convinced by this evidence, for a few reasons, the main one is that it relies on self-reported data, which as a statistician let me tell you, is about as unreliable as it gets -- and becomes even more so when talking about topics like sex... Believing this data requires to you t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV Believing Personality matters more then looks is delusion, but believing Personality doesnt have a big impact in you're smv is also delusion.6/10 above average dude, with a great charismatic exroverted Personality, against a 6'5 Model with a average dryish personality, Dude 1 can EASILY go toe to toe with the model dude in terms off sexual success. Literally just no. I don't know what else to say. This is so absurdly wrong it's not even funny. If you don't believe me, make a fake Tinder with a 6'5 truly model status man's pics. Be dry and boring, it won't matter. Only reason I know this is my friend is a 6 foot 7 guy with a handsome … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:23 PM |
| 29 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemThat's a good point. Average women can't really be waiting for a 10 for a partner if 60% of women are in relationships. Unless you buy the idea that they're all cheating every weekend, which is another redpill belief I don't buy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemGlad to see this take here. A lot of guys are jealous of attractive women and their """easy""" lives but some of that sounds kind of shitty. Everyone always agreeing with you simply because you're pretty, giving you no real feedback or way to improve yourself. Everyone always trying to fuck you, you never know if people even like your personality or just want to clap your cheeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:19 PM |
| 6 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemAll those statistics show is that women swipe on someone they find attractive, while men will swipe on anyone that's not Fat. They would fuck anything. This is a weird way of saying "women swipe on someone they find attractive, while men also swipe on someone they find attractive". The stats actually show that men tend to rate women on a bell curve whereas women rate 80%+ of men as unattractive. It's nobody's fault really, it's just biology | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemI agree with the spirit of your comment but there's something missing, OP is implying that it's not just the people making the bad decisions that suffer, it's everyone else too and I'm not so sure they're wrong. Consider for a moment a hypothetical where all men start to follow the strategy of only dating girls who don't have college degrees. Yes that is their own bad decision and they would suffer, but so would lots of other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:16 PM |
| 0 | Let's be real it's the women in the 5.5-7.5 range causing most of the dating/relationships problemActually there is some research indicating that women tend to reach "up" when hooking up, whereas men "settle" in those contexts... But then when it comes to the long term relationships, women tend to "settle", because the men they were reaching "up" for aren't interested in settling down with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:15 PM |
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