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lmaoo you wish 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:15 PM
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Women just don’t want to add the stress of risky behavior to their lives. DT won the majority of white women's votes for the third time straight. Stop saying "women" as if you represent them. You guys are divided as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:34 PM
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😂😂😂😂 This is priceless. Trust me, you guys are easy as fuck to lay. But that doesn't fit your reddit fueled narrative so you'll cover your ears and la la la right? 😂😂😂 How has living in this reddit bubble worked out for you guys? Probably been tough the last day huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:17 PM
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These women think that they'll make a difference when they're not even close to the type of women that men would want to sleep with anyways. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:44 AM
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I know it's shocking but women are also mocked for being virgins, as well as some women are mocked being sexually active. There is no choice that won't have someone, who intends to hurt your feelings, make fun of you around your sexual activity. All of this to say that you can be mocked for virtually anything you do. Really?? You don't say. For example, if you get good grades; you're a nerd. If you don't; you're dumb. The real question is, which is more likely to happen, and how many people woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:54 PM
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Yes, so I ask again... When did you ever ask about the conversations he's referring to the first time? You are not asking "again". If you agree dating shouldn't be an expected topic when discussing gender equality, what he's complaining about makes no sense. 🤦‍♂️ I never agreed to that. Are you being purposefully dense? My point was that IN THE CONTEXT of OP's post, gender equality was very clearly being used to refer to the inequalities that occur for either a man or women when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:08 PM
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It's a bunch of black and red-pilled men shitting on women and everyone else challenging that. How is this post shitting on women? If you changed the contents of the post to men overwhelmingly choosing women based on appearance, no one here would take that as you "shitting" on men. It's a general truth. Maybe it's because men are so used to getting shit on that they don't recognize it anymore. Or maybe women need to get used to getting their fair share of getting shat on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:57 PM
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I have no idea what OP is referring to. My first reply to your question is likely the answer. I have never been a part of a discussion about gender equality that includes dating, except for this one lol Yes gender equality usually refers to equal rights and opportunities but it doesn't take a genius to comprehend that OP is using the term in the context of attraction and dating. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:20 PM
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It's implied heavily that OP isn't talking about legal issues or rights in his post. How would any of that relate to gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:14 PM
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Equality of expectations for dating or relationships. Which affects gender equality because there are generally different expectations based on whether you're a man looking to date a woman or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:08 PM
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Gets called out for obvious strawman = Must be a Tate fanboy 😂😂 Cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:01 PM
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No he was talking about lots of women so he used the word "countless." Holy, I didn't think language was a hard concept but I have to give it to you; you're providing a good example through yourself 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:13 PM
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You lack reading comprehension and it's funny how you're so confidently ignorant about that. 😂😂🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:07 PM
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😂😂 PPD women have to come up with strawmen arguments like the one above to justify their world views. "Not all women." 😂🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:05 PM
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Not an okay friendship in the context of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:25 PM
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So if there's one party who views sex as meaningless and one party who's down to have sex, what's stopping the friendship from progressing to FWB territory?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:28 PM
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It really depends on what your definition of a "friend" is. Would you call someone your friend if they're down to fuck or if they even slightly have lust for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:22 PM
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Caring and preaching are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:13 PM
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An extreme condition like an ice age would dissolve society? Omfg really? Guess I paid for the wrong manosphere course. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:06 PM
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The human species surviving the ice age had absolutely nothing to do with chads What the actual fuck are you talking about 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:55 PM
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there are no chads What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:46 PM
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Men will talk about how alllllll they care about is love and values too though. Seen it plenty of times. Not nearly as much as women. Which was my point. It’s people trying to be polite. At best, it's an attempt to be polite. At worst, it's a tone-deaf virtue-signalling that pacifies the men they're not actually even attracted to in the first place. "You're the type of guy I would marry but not hook up with." 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:25 PM
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Do men preach the importance of personality more, or women? This is a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:11 PM
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Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:57 AM
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I'm not obligated to because I didn't make the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:38 PM
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The kinds of women who like bad men generally fall into two catagories: extremely young and immature (teenagers) psychologically unstable, desperate or with dark traid tendencies themselves Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:13 PM
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So you're saying the goods market is inefficient? No, because as I said, in the actual goods market, supply and demand are accounted for when producing quantities. Because to me, supply and demand for specific good match at same price I played along with the colour analogy but it's not actually a good parallel to the dating market. The dating market would be more akin to different brands and models of jackets. Colour is an oversimplification when it comes to how different actual people are and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:35 PM
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Meaning the seller understands that the purple isn't lower value The SELLER values them the same because the cost and effort are roughly the same. However to the BUYER'S pool, it's not the same value if a substantial percentage of potential procurers aren't going to buy the jacket based on the colour anymore. The seller understands these trends and will produce more black than purple. Because they know that if they produced equal quantities, then the purple jackets would end up in the discount a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:51 PM
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The actual goods market doesn't work that way either. What are you talking about. Obviously there are slight varieties in preferences in purchasing merchandise. Certain colours are way more popular than others. For example, for every purple jacket a man buys, twenty black jackets are bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:35 PM
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How isn't dating a value-based social exchange? Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:21 PM
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How is it "weaponising" if most women have fantasies about it? You're using a word with negative connotation for something many women view positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:27 PM
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"Women's number one fantasy is rape" (and all this, really), is incredibly commonly misused by disingenuous actors who use it solely to seek to justify any personal predilection they wish. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19085605/ What do you think of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:00 PM
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First one and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:44 PM
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the money is the reward... I asked WHO was rewarding the immorality, not WHAT. Let's stay on track here. which is also what is happening when "players" lie to women about their intentions (or anything else) in order to get sex Who said anything about lying? The fuck? Didn't this start because we're discussing men being open and very direct/clear about their intentions? Come on now. 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:58 PM
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Not an equivalent analogy. Nobody is rewarding or allowing you to rob a bank. You are non-consensually taking something not yours without the bank benefitting whatsoever. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:23 PM
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read it again. you said my rephrase was not "clear". When I asked you, you said ""idk bc i can't imagine my desire being that basic (not trying to insult)"". You said """"idk"""". And now you're saying you rephrased it. Clear communication, everyone. 😂😂😂 yes this is the immorality i am speaking of And who rewards that immorality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:26 PM
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literally right there How is asking you how you would rephrase something you said you don't like the same as saying women aren't clear with their communication? Genuinely confused here. which means men are immoral and followers How is it being immoral? You can't just label something without an explanation. which means they don't want to. which is what i said. and you are disagreeing with me for no reason. No. Let me put it this way. My original point when I talked about the irony was that men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:14 PM
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yet you keep insisting that men's way of communicating is more "clear" or the default No? Where? I was asking you about how you would rephrase clear sexual intent and you weren't able to. So actually if we based it off this now, then it's apparent that you weren't really clear in what you wanted to say. If you had actually been judging the way this intent was being expressed, one would think you would have an easy alternative. 😉 correct i think they think its not masculine to want to those thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:41 PM
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idk bc i can't imagine my desire being that basic 🤣 Then just say that there is no way to convey it and that you don't approve of clear communication, or men who are straightforward and honest about their biological urges. You can't imagine it because you've never been a man. No need to apologize. but when i think about commitmentless sex w a man, its like i want intimacy, to connect w him, feel skin to skin touch, maybe have a fun convo in bed, be loving to each other in a limited setting, have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:56 PM
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I'm genuinely curious. What would you say is a poetic way to say you want to have sex with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:35 PM
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general actions towards women You have to be more specific than this. 😂 mainstream media and cinema of the past 100 years, Let's talk about the present. Where are the female boycotts of media and cinema in our day if this were to be true? This is like blaming Onlyfans creators without blaming the men who keep them afloat. I said historically 😂 No. You only applied that to the Middle East and then said YET for the west. Come on now. remnants of patriarchal culture and an extremely aggressive Chri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:08 PM
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men over romanticise and over sexualize women whilst diminishing their personhood What would be an example of this, and what would be your argument against the fact that women do this to themselves to an extent? we haven't fully escaped it yet in the west, as evidenced How are women controlled and subjugated in America?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:33 PM
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And how are they doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:05 PM
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I didnt though. You did. 😂 Being always right comes with the price of avoiding discussion eh. So are they then? Yes. I know exploiting people is negative What are passport bros doing which is negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:59 PM
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Possibly. Possibly as in when you assume the circumstances so that it conforms to your argument? 😂 The connotation of the word "exploit" is negative. A simple Google search will beat you over the head with that obvious truth. Unless you're going to fake ignorance there. You can only shame someone doing something shameful What are passport bros doing that is shameful? inb4: "When did I say they were doing something shameful?" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:50 PM
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If it isn't exploitation, then what's your point? If a husband and wife, both of first country origin, agree to the arrangement where the husband provides while the wife stays home, are they exploiting each other? Or are you just throwing words around in an attempt to shame these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:38 PM
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Explain to me how the exploitation doesn't go both ways in these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:32 PM
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theyre often hating on women for not dating “the right type of person and how Chad gets all the women” Oversimplification and you know it. It's the calling out of women virtue signaling the importance of personality and then proceeding to be attracted to dark triad qualities. Obviously not all women but more than you guys would like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:17 PM
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who just so happen to be of the virgin variety. When women use the term "incel" as an insult online, how would they know if the man is a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:06 PM
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Nah if anything I was being generous providing an example of why men could be frustrated by ambiguous rejections while acknowledging that it's misdirected. The reason is that in reality "RP" men are not punching the air wondering why they're being rejected. TRP focuses on your looks first, social game second, and money last. Do you really think men who are internalizing and reflecting on their inadequacies in these areas compared to other men are wondering why some women are rejecting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:40 PM
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This post lacks nuance. If you're looking at this rejection from the point of a cold approach or someone who you're merely acquainted with, then TRP has never pushed for reasons. It's always been approach, and move on. A numbers game. If this rejection is coming from one friend to another, then it really opens up a lot of different circumstances that could come into play. Who does she allow intimacy with after rejecting the friend? Did she say one thing about her preferences only to turn around …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:55 PM
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You realize you're speaking from a position of privilege to be able to work a job like that, right? Most people do not find their jobs "super easy."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:38 PM
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Congratulations, you're in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:00 PM
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Does "physically taking care of your child" involve slaving your ass off for the next twenty years of your life to fund his or her life? Or are we going to exclude that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:58 PM
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I'm going to stop engaging after this because you're clearly ignorant as shit if you're not able to scroll up and show some reading comprehension. 😂 But since I put too much effort in on this forum plagued by bad faith arguments, here I linked it for you. 😘 I'm sure that there are women who are okay with the men in their lives break down and having to be comforted by them; but it's gaslighting to put on this "holier than thou" act and pushing a narrative of your gender being the more empathetic …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:53 PM
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What the fuck. 😂 Yes I know. What is your point. Did you miss the point where I said the general sentiment among men is to not show this vulnerability to women, resulting in an impossiblity to take advantage of women through it? I love it when you guys act smart and then fail to show any reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:45 PM
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?? Who is not abusive? Are we talking about a specific person here? Yes, I said ANYONE because we're talking about a hypothetical person doing hypothetical things. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:32 PM
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But there is only so much sacrifice and work you can extract from a woman who is raising children before you've exhausted her resources. You're basing this off a very biased generalization which you've now deleted. Women are there for their friends, their boyfriends, and their husbands. The women who complain are overtaxed by the exhaustive minutia demanded of them. Are you implying that men in general are not there for their friends, girlfriends and wives? If you are, this is the high horse I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:13 PM
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I disagree. Regardless of what you think TRP has become nowadays, many people associate the "manosphere" as the FnF or Andrew Tate crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:58 PM
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Trying to generalize men as the manbabies you describe is honestly such a reach. But hey, I will fully recognize that there are men like that. Do you think my point was that they don't exist? Contrary to the advice a lot of women give about opening up to your partners, my advice is to definitely not trust a man before committing to starting a family with him. Just like some women, some men will change after a commitment such as children. So do your due diligence. And on top of that, they expect …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:56 PM
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He referred to red pillers here. So is this forum a manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:39 PM
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I'm just observing that among men who have dated around and aren't chained to some version of manosphere ideology, this occurrence is much rarer. You're confusing the occurrence rate with your observance. Have you thought that maybe those who experience it are more likely to turn to red pill theories and in turn vent online about it? Thus resulting in a more observable group of people? Read the comment I made again. My counter point was that women who may be okay with their men being emotional a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:38 PM
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😂 Where's the accountability now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:06 PM
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Refer to my other reply. To summarize the general arguments as "bUt _____ bAd" is reductive and ignorant of nuance. I'm not saying that there isn't discourse that could be summed up that way but to hone in on those comments is redundant and a purposeful misrepresentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:04 PM
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You ever notice how the "women hate it when men are vulnerable" crowd are overwhelmingly from some flavor of the manosphere? Not really? What do you count as the manosphere? Anyone who has come to believe that? If it is, then there's no point in talking about a group of people who you'll dismiss as a whole without taking their experiences seriously. Because it is. 😂 Okay. That's not what I said, you intentionally ignored what my actual argument was to try and motte and bailey the discussion. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:59 PM
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Ok, so leave those women and don't date them. How is that hypocrisy? Leave and avoid is not the brilliant solution you think it is to a relationship. Do you think that's a good response to every problem you face? ... It's hypocrisy because these women say they want one thing and then punish them for it? I don't understand how you don't understand the hypocrisy there. Most women. Like the vast majority. Your experiences versus other's experiences. Nevertheless, we can both see that it does happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:13 PM
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This is a debate forum, not a self-help one. No one is here looking for solutions. I have definitely never professed to be looking for them here. Everyone is just trying to validate their world views. It's a debate forum. Which is what the "calling out" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:01 PM
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I'll use your example of men's mental health. Like with many things, I would actually care less about what women have to say about it if they dropped the whole facade of them CARING. I doubt that there could be an accurate study on this, but many men have experienced situations where there are told to be vulnerable and open up, only to be met with "the ick" and a perceived emasculated feeling from their partners. I'm sure that there are women who are okay with the men in their lives break down a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:39 PM
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The truth is men in general have become weak, undisciplined and lazy. For example we can bash Onlyfans as much as we want but 75% of the problem are the hordes of men who fund it. There's no point in blaming women for things which men enable, so to me RP will always be an inner movement directed at self-improvement without reliance on exterior validation. This post is in bad faith though. People like you try so hard to make it as though users here blame women merely as whining or complaints when…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:50 PM
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Subconsciously men are bitter that they will face more social repercussions for saying something like that they prefer a woman below a certain weight; something that actually can be controlled. Is it healthy? No, and honestly I think it's a waste of time to try and debate women over these double standards. So personally I don't care if a woman talks about a preference such as height but I would be tone-deaf to not understand why men are frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:14 PM
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Yes, because men prize sex so highly that failing at it is particularly notable So it's okay to judge men off a value that you yourself don't agree with? Sounds like an excuse and a lack of accountability. Yes, and that’s why we can criticize No one has ever said that you can't criticize. Your arguments are simply being challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:02 PM
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Yes, and that’s why used sex objects, aka women, are considered less valuable and are insulted Just like how women call unsuccessful men "incels." Is a high body count on a man worse than that social degradation? Actions have to match words here. We can criticize buyers, especially if we’re the product Of course. It's a free market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:55 PM
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Sure you do. Sex objects are used; the more an object is used, the less appealing and valuable it is. Sex objects are sought after as a replacement to the human experience. Think about this. Objectively, sex objects can be made tighter and more fragrant compared to women. However, most men still highly prefer an actual human to be intimate with. A person, by contrast, becomes more valuable the more they have lived, learned and experienced. On the other hand, a person becomes more jaded and bitte…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:37 PM
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I always find the term "objectifying" kind of funny. You don't have sex with objects. In fact, one of the defining aspects of being a human is being able to have sex. There's an epidemic of men feeling like they aren't accepted by society and therefore being reduced to something less than human by not meeting the requirements to be intimate with women. To be "objectified" comes from a position of privilege in the first world when you consider that you have the option of completely shutting it ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:40 PM
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Your title and description are two different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:04 PM
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In that case, kudos to him. Women in this thread will say that he should have just divorced her instead of ""abusing"" her while simultaneously refusing to note that this man went on a solo misssion to fix their marriage and her attraction for him without her even admitting the problem in the first place. Seems much more noble than divorce to me. I don't expect much from PPD though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:09 PM
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Eh this whole thread is derailed by the talking point of the man's silent treatment. The man should have communicated his needs and left his wife if she still refused to meet them. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:29 PM
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I focused on that age range because you did too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:19 PM
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https://igotstandardsbro.com/results?minAge=18&maxAge=25&excludeMarried=true&race=0&minHeight=177.8&excludeObese=true&minIncome=60000 I went extremely generous on this test. I included all races, a height of 5'10", and a mediocre salary of $60,000 per year. 1.9% Almost half of your percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:10 PM
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lmaoo bye bye
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:05 PM
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Do u think it's an honor being used like an ATM or free gifts The irony. If anything the guys desperate for sex and have no other way of getting it are the ones who use dinner dates to secure sex. He can't even get sex for free I am very curious as to know what percentage of men you think can ask a girl to simply pull up for sex without a date first. I've been taken out on dates by both types of men: the disingenuous ones who only wanna take me out, to only fuck later, but me passing on their of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:34 PM
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The fact that you form definitive world views off of anecdotal experiences like your own or the video you posted shows that you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:17 PM
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What do you base that off?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:02 AM
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Gentlemen... 😂 We can definitely play the game where we assume the best of the other gender and call them by "gentlemen" and "proper ladies". When will the women here learn that the men who are able to "treat women like they are for sale" are the ones who run through women hotter and more attractive than you? The ones settling for you lot and being "gentleman" can't. No matter how much you cope. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:58 AM
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Women very much get rejected as often as men. Some women? Or all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:19 AM
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What are you talking about? Lots of women require a man to put the effort into a date before giving it up. That's what they want too. It's a dance that's been in place for millenia. I don't know where all the women in this thread have lived their whole lives, but most socially adept women understand that men aren't planning and paying for dates to get a kiss on the cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:18 AM
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"Hope" is the keyword in both situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:04 PM
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No one is saying that women can't get rejected. That is an obvious truth. If a woman gets rejected as much as a man, then yes, she likely is ugly or fat. Or she is doing something very wrong with her approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:57 PM
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I don't care what a single woman did to face rejection continually. I don't know what her methods were or what she was saying to earn that. If you're going to make the discussion anecdotal, then why don't you try reading of the hundreds of more experiences of men facing rejection. It's not even a contest at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:23 AM
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Don't try to reframe your point. I am talking about the likelihood of getting rejected IN RELATION to men. Do you really think that I'm trying to say that it's impossible for a woman to get rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:37 AM
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We get rejected as often as men do If a man and women are reasonably within the same range of being attractive, the woman definitely does not get rejected as often as the man. That is an absolutely delusional take. yall go out of your way to tell us that something is deeply wrong with us when we do Do you think the red pill was formed because men thought it was okay to put up with constant rejection? The red pill is the result of men realizing that there is "something deeply wrong" with themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:45 AM
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Yes, something is "wrong" with them or the way they're going about it in relation to men's success rates, because men are more likely to accept a woman's advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:50 AM
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Men always say “why don’t women approach us? I think the ironic thing about this is that men who ask this are blue pilled. The overall sentiment from men on this sub seems to be one of questioning who women choose rather than questioning why they don't approach. Everyone here knows that women don't need to approach in the world of OLD. Why would they? That we should be able to step foot outside and just find a boyfriend with the snap of a finger, and if we can’t, it’s our fault in some way. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:23 AM
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Yes, this is generally true. It kind of feels like this post is leading up to a point that is not stated though. "Women don’t approach men because rejection for women has a much bigger stigma"; therefore...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:09 AM
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Women generally marry when you demonstrate that you possess a wallet (financial security) and a dildo (sexual ability). These are conditions that prove that you're able to be her partner for life. They are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:30 PM
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The fact that feminists try to level their delusion with true redpill is actually insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 10:14 PM
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Please inform me of why this debate isn't in good faith. I can think of few better things to spend my evening on and no, it’s not social media or hookups, shocking coming from a woman, I know. Making assumptions of what I think right after talking about "good faith" is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 10:11 PM
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😂 This is a good way to excuse yourself from a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:52 PM
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So you think actual redpill promotes whining and complaining over action?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:39 PM
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You changed what you meant. That is not "embracing" the things men say. That's called "ignoring" and "rejecting." Embracing an idea doesn't lead to outrage and protest over said idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:38 PM
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This is actually a laughable take on Reddit. I'm genuinely curious; what are some of these things feminists are "more prone to embrace"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:26 PM
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I don’t think Redpill is equivalent to Feminism to begin with. At least not actual feminism. Do you think you're talking about "actual" Redpill in your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:17 PM
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Yeah these are good points. But I think a good question to ask is... how do you think many of men's insecurities started for them? Especially those who are on this sub. Do you think insecurites are an indiscriminate disease that randomly select certain men? Or are they something fostered from a young age for men when they're boys/teens and rear their heads as "insecurities" when they grow up? I think it's unfair to say that insecurities are at the root for men's problems because it's asking the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:13 PM
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Yes. Do you need my anecdotal experience to justify a general truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:28 PM
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lol sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:27 PM
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Have you ever considered that happy healthy relationships rely on happy sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:25 PM
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Fulfilling your partner's sexual needs is optional in sustaining a relationship. I have no words for that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:25 PM
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But I wasn't talking about relationships that already had severe issues going on, was I? You had to shift the conversation there to justify a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:58 PM
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1% of the population identifies as asexual. Otherwise, your partner has sexual needs. Is it your obligation to fulfill your partner's sexual needs IF you expect the relationship to last?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:56 PM
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I don't believe that you're dense enough to believe that I'm advocating rape. Is sex optional if you're trying to sustain a relationship? Unless you're the 1% of the population which identifies as asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:54 PM
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Whether the denial of fulfillment of sexual needs are valid for ""short periods"" is subjective. What defines a "short" period is subjective as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:40 PM
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It's not different at all. Duty is an obligation towards something while optional is not. If there are enough issues in a relationship where you refuse to have sex with your partner, then that relationship is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:37 PM
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I am talking about the general population. Ask yourself in good faith how many people are okay with a dead bedroom in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:48 PM
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So it's optional for a couple's relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:24 PM
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For a relationship to last? What else would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:56 PM
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What are you on about. RP doesn't claim all self-improvement. It promotes self-improvement geared towards dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:54 PM
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Why are you acting like the red pill is some hidden society like the illuminati. There are many people aware of what it is. No one asks a dude for secrets if he starts trying harder in life and becomes a better person. He simply made an effort to become more physically attractive and establish a career. There are no "secrets" to this process to tell. Most red pill truths are not "secrets". For a lot of men, it is the REPRIORITISATION of assets and efforts you are already making in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:26 PM
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This is simple. People who find success with the red pill don't want to associate with it because of people like you who hyper focus on the most loudest and obnoxious grifters in the space. It's also a no brainer that women don't find it attractive that you were once undesirable to women and had to rely on unconventional means to get to where you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:43 PM
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And how do you know that the ones who have applied RP principles and left the online space don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:27 PM
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Oh my god dude can you stop using cult-like terms like "pillosophizing" and actually form an argument against something red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:22 PM
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This is a crazy take. Are you implying that all men possess an equal amount of good and bad traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:18 PM
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I said to criticize red pill THEORY instead of GRIFTERS because GRIFTERS = / = TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:16 PM
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Wtf are you going on about dude. Nobody here is endorsing grifters or lazy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:58 PM
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correct. there is no one who exists who has not been selfish and inconsiderate at one point. You know this is not the point he was trying to make. He is talking about in RELATION to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:49 PM
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🤦‍♂️ Criticising a bunch of grifters is criticising a group of people. Jesus Christ. You sound like someone who wouldn't be able to differentiate feminists from radical feminists. You punch down on easy targets like grifters and lazy men but won't specify which ideas are trash. Again, attack the theory and not the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:45 PM
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Exactly. This post is entirely ignoring the context of when "choose better" is predominately used.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:08 PM
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You are criticising a group of people, not the theory. Attack the theory instead of the easy targets of lazy men. "The red pill" is not a membership where you officially become a red piller. How do you actually know if people aren't practicing red pill ideologies in real life? It sounds like you believe it doesn't happen because they don't write about it online. It doesn't happen because you don't see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:03 PM
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Improving yourself and informing yourself of dating behaviors of women doesn't work? How is that lip service? Please explain. “if you could truly BE red pilled, you would have never needed to find RP in the first place” This is such a non-statement. People are not born red pill. It's a set of beliefs that form a lifestyle. Do you really think there are no men who have taken the advice given through the red pill and have gone from having minimal success to some?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:38 PM
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How is it wasting time if they take the advice and become better versions of themselves? Unless you're talking about men who are perpetually stuck in the same place in life who don't apply what they learn while venting online. If you're talking about the latter, then I'm sure you're aware enough to know that the red pill doesn't endorse laziness for one second.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:04 PM
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I'm actually curious why your flair isn't "blue pilled." I'm not sure what your argument on individualism is trying to prove. No one in the red pill space thinks that every woman has the same preferences or likes. There are women out there where being a simp will help. But is that women in general? Hell no. At it's core the red pill is becoming physically attractive, becoming accomplished in your career, getting your finances in order, and having a social life. Women IN GENERAL are attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:50 PM
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Simps weren't invented by the term being created. Are you trying to say that simps aren't real or that they only exist to the red pill's "worldview"? Nobody thinks that the people in this space were the first to characterize what a simp is. It's a commonly known term outside the red pill. Terms are made up all the time for things, just like how women will call other women "pick-me's." It's a convenience thing, not that serious bro. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:30 PM
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I get the feeling that this user has some kind of agenda making these comments. 😂 A cult comparison is a reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:19 PM
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I'm confused. Do you think being a simp or fitting the description of a betabux is a good method of attracting women? Obviously not. So you'd advocate a method that IS BETTER for someone trying to get with women. It's an echo chamber to advise being a simp is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:08 PM
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Not sure about simp but betabux is of red pill origins. Either way, does it matter who came up with it as long as the existence of these types of people are recognized by the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:57 PM
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This depends on what you view the red pill as. If the red pill placed all the blame on women and society, then self-improvement wouldn't be the core tenet of it. The fact that there are terms like betabux and simp acknowledge that the majority of our own gender is partly at fault for the harsh dating landscape we see today.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:47 PM
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... And why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:55 AM
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And why is that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:21 AM
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If the max percentage is 15%, how would you explain this? https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2019/08/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet "Rosenfeld, a lead author on the research and a professor of sociology in the School of Humanities and Sciences, drew on a nationally representative 2017 survey of American adults and found that about 39 percent of heterosexual couples reported meeting their partner online, compared to 22 percent in 2009."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:14 AM
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But why would you not pursue women if half of them wouldn't date a virgin? https://match.mediaroom.com/2013-02-05-Singles-in-America-Match-com-Releases-Third-Annual-Comprehensive-Study-on-the-Single-Population Under Additional Key Findings: "42% of singles would not date a virgin (33% of men and 51% of women)"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:32 PM
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Shaming someone for having sex is projection and probably stems from insecurity for some men. But if you take the shaming aspect out of it and mind your own business, it's perfectly reasonable to gain experience through gaining a body count and having a preference to settle down with someone who has a low count. EDIT: Downvotes for preferences. Predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:44 PM
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There definitely has been a big change in what is considered the red pill now. I think social media introduced a large dose of misogynistic attitudes for the sake of engagement and shock value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:12 PM
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Seriously I really can't tell if some of these women are intentionally playing dumb to deflect simple points or if they just default to strawman as some kind of defense mechanism unknowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:01 PM
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"Rosenfeld, a lead author on the research and a professor of sociology in the School of Humanities and Sciences, drew on a nationally representative 2017 survey of American adults and found that about 39 percent of heterosexual couples reported meeting their partner online, compared to 22 percent in 2009." I'm not even going to start with you calling into question what the word "couple" could mean here. Actually unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:16 PM
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https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2019/08/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet 40% of couples have met online according to this Stanford study. Did they choose that? Or is it just a """"preference"""". And if you're going to argue that it's different post covid, do you have statistics to back that claim up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:05 PM
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Nah I don't enjoy that. So regardless of what your interpretation of the word """"preference"""" means, if 50% of the actively dating population says they """"prefer"""" it, you think statistics related to online dating have no merit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:58 PM
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If you got better results in person to the point where it was worth it, then meeting in person would be the most preferred method. Your example of groceries is you preferring one ASPECT of delivery but overall preferring going in person. I provide a survey and logical conclusion to it and my argument is stupid. 😂 You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:49 PM
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If you prefer a certain way of doing something a certain way, why wouldn't it be your main process? Before doing mental gymnastics and listing reasons, realize that those reasons weren't large enough to stop online dating from being number one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:34 PM
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Post covid surveys places three in ten adults as having used dating apps. 50% of respondents in this study who have actively dated in the past five years have said online dating is their most preferred method to get dates. https://www.forbes.com/health/dating/dating-statistics/ I'm not sure how you can dismiss online dating statistics in our modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:16 PM
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Would it be wrong to say that dating is moving more and more towards being chronically online?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:30 PM
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I don't think these men assume moral high ground because they think that they're pursuing realistic standards. Men know what their standards should be after they spend a week on dating apps. I think what you're seeing is a culmination of frustration concerning the fact that men will be honest about what their standards are versus women who say one thing about their standards and then demonstrating something different through their actions. Ironically I think many women assume a moral high ground…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:28 PM
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No, he's saying that criticising one and not the others makes you a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:02 PM
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He's saying it's an exception in societal opinion. Do you actually think he's suggesting that rights are taken away from the groups he's listed? You are miscontruing OP's point entirely. If an eighteen year old is able to make decisions that may vastly alter their life for the worse without any societal lashback then why are age gaps the exception? THAT is the exception he is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:48 PM
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The second
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:04 PM
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I love getting questions to my questions 😂 No. If I were to say that that should be the case, then I'm assuming that you aren't an adult who can't make their own decisions. This is assuming you weren't groomed by your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:03 PM
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If you think I'm in a "rage" then I have nothing to say 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:56 PM
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What rage are you talking about dude. I'm the only one who responded to your comment 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:26 PM
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Why isn't it a logical follow on? You asked a lot of questions and said that it SHOULDN'T be that way; but why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:21 PM
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100% honest I didn't even get what you were trying to say with your questions. Are you trying to say that men getting into large age gap relationships are doing so because they're in positions of enough power to enact laws like conscription? The 30 year old guy with the 19 year old girl does not have anything close to that. This overlap you keep talking about applies to the 0.001% of men who rise to the very top of social hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:03 PM
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You can get into age gap relationships without having the power and influence to enact conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:20 PM
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Not sure where I said I can. Nor was that the point OP was trying to make. Nowhere does he say that the average adult male can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:02 PM
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Oh my god dude can you just state your point. Yes Putin probably has many different relationships with large age gaps. Putin is also %0.000001 of the male population and should have no relevance in a discussion about the average adult man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:38 PM
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Sure means yes. I legit do not know what point you're trying to make by bringing Putin's mistress into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:26 PM
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So you're saying that 18 year old men getting conscripted to fight a war are essentially in the same position as women in a large age-gap relationship. If that's your point, sure? Did anyone say that it's okay for the millions of men in the past century to die due to a miniscule fraction of men at the top? The only difference is that there is no outcry over men being exploited this way in the same way these age-gap relationships are talked about. The current situation in Ukraine is a good exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:18 PM
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"On the old men in power send young men off." This wouldn't be complicated if you actually spoke in complete sentences. If you're trying to say that old men would stop trying to fuck young women if they stopped sending young men off to war, I don't see how those two have any correlation at all and furthermore how it has any relevance to OP's original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:07 PM
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?? Effect on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:33 PM
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My point is that that percentage of men you're talking about is %0.001 of the population, not whether there's an overlap. So what is the point of talking about this miniscule subset of men. Your question was formed making a lot of assumptions about what I believe and what my comment was intended to point out. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:19 PM
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Exactly what percentage of the male population do you think is responsible or even able to influence the recruitment of young men for war?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:00 PM
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It's not about whether it actually makes them less adult and less deserving of rights. OP is not trying to debate that. It's about OTHER people's selective perceptions and making a biased EXCEPTION for these relationships. I don't understand your question. Which dating restrictions don't impact which rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:56 PM
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What? Your understanding of OP's post is not very philosopher-like of you. OP is not saying that anyone is less adult or less deserving of rights. If they're all wrong, then he's asking why only one of them is exceptionally looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:09 PM
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Where do you draw the line at what is being done for yourself versus your value in society? OP is stating that in general men have to do more than women to be valued in society, You have just listed things that everyone has to do regardless of gender. Unhealthy and obese men are definitely not valued in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:49 PM
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Pretty woman do not have to touch their hair or do as much makeup as they think they have to in order to be liked. To some extent those things fall under the umbrella of what everyone does in order to look presentable to society. The effort to keeping your weight healthy should not be considered "doing" something to be liked or rewarded - it's what a person regardless of gender does who respects themselves. The reward is your health. Doing sports? Come on now. No one cares if a pretty woman play…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:58 PM
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I would argue it's expected even more in other parts of the world. I'm of East Asian background, and it's a no-brainer on dates that the man should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:05 AM
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If you can't concede that the majority of women want the man to pay for dates, then I have nothing to say. What survey did you find that disproves my point? I found this one: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/survey-most-say-men-should-pay-for-first-date-in-hetero-couples
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:03 AM
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This conversation will turn into another anecdotal back and forth on this sub devoid of any objectivity. As a tradesman who started out digging trenches in all types of weather, I could relate the coworkers over the years I've had who had no choice but to persist in their laborious careers despite their bodies wasting away because they had families to take care of. But just like your optional dog, it's an option to enter a career that will destroy your body over the years forever and to choose h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:57 AM
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I probably went out on around fifteen dates last year and I paid either for the whole date or the majority of the expenses on every single date with minimal resistance, if any, from the girl. And I did so without complaint. I don't think women want the man to pay for EVERYTHING in a relationship. That's an obvious and exaggerated take, which, in my opinion detracts from the actual discussion. I just wonder if the few women here can concede that the MAJORITY of the female population expects and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:35 PM
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I like how you had to add in the completely optional dog for some artificial difficulty. How long do the things in your comment last compared to the working years of an average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:13 PM
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If this is true, then you're insinuating that women are making their lives harder by requiring a certain level of income from their potential partners because a SAHD's earning potential is useless to them. Why do you think women in general demand a certain income relative to men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:25 PM
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Isn't the fact that he's in a relationship with her or fucking her regularly mean that he finds her attractive enough? Saying that he's using her like a sock is just an expression to make the situation seem worse than it is. He's providing her pleasure through sex and intimacy just as she is vice versa. Do you provide your sock comfort just like how a sock provides your feet comfort? Your statement about obesity is absolutely false. Obesity is a risk to your health more often than not brought on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:25 PM
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Chads have the option of being blue pill. There's a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:02 PM
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I dont understand how he is "using" anyone here as long as it's consensual. Is she not using him for sex too? Most people don't respect obesity regardless of gender so how would this situation be misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:57 PM
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How is it disrespectful to women to not want the qualities he listed in a partner? And why would you deal with baggage and kids if you had the option not to? If you aren't what he described then what is there to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:56 PM
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