tessie999 Archive

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2	Telling young men to settle There is no false premise. Sacrificing for the kids DIRECTLY benefits the husband, because they are also his children (they get a higher quality of upbringing and more likely to be successful). He also benefits from not having to pay childcare, which is another huge one. It doesn't matter if she 'didn't have a decent career to begin with', because that career could have grown. Instead, it didn't, and she has a massive gap where she isn't growing or gaining skills. This results in not only a larg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/18 11:38 PM
4	Telling young men to settle You REALLY like this whole whataboutism thing don't you? OP was about settling, you decide to talk about witholding sex. I've replied to that, now we're onto alimony. I wonder where your mind will jump to next? Wanna see something that'll blow your mind? The average husband gets richer after divorce in the vast majority of cases, the average wife gets poorer. Page 12. Especially if the husbands had children. Alimony is awarded to a partner who sacrificed their career and otherwise for their part…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/18 11:49 AM
15	Telling young men to settle It's not 'withholding' because men don't own women's bodies. If someone doesn't want to have sex, forcing them to is rape. Sex requires two actively wanting participants (even if the 'wanting' just means starfishing). This whole idea that women give sex and men receive is why so many people have shit sex, and the idea men are owed sex even when their partner doesn't want to have sex at all is rather sinister. If two people are sexually incompatible because one person wants sex more than the othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/18 03:11 PM
1	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists Tl;Dr. I'm once again disengaging from this as I don't have time for compulsive posters. I hope you actually learnt what solipsism meant, and maybe you directed some of that wider reading to what was directly linked rather than checking out my post history after or w.e it is you were up to. Edit: Don't think he realised reddit tells you when a post has been edited.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 11:55 PM
1	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists Tl;dr?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 11:41 PM
1	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists Tl;dr?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 11:33 PM
1	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists Pretty significantly - especially during developmental phases (baby->child and child -> adult). This is difficult to measure, however it's a growing field. To take some small examples, exposing a media-naive population of Fijan girls to television (predominantly Western) media had a significant impact on how the girls valued their body for its appearance vs robustness and importance of values. Traditional Fijan cultures did emphasise robust body shape, but girls were also taught to value their f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 11:32 PM
2	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists Ok? EDIT: actually come to think of it, hatting men might be kinda fun. Especially if I get to choose the hats...	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 10:53 PM
1	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists Beyond the physical realities of hormones, size, weight, baby-making - no. I'm not in favour of throwing biology out the window, but creating gender roles based on very tenuous links to biology (ie: pseudo-science) has been generally unhelpful at best and at worst extremely and unnecessarily oppressive. The significant influence of culture also tends to be ignored by essentialists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 10:24 PM
1	QForBP: How many of you are actually feminists I'm actually a radical feminist. This to me means acknowledging and fighting against sex-based oppression (libfems reject sex-based oppression for gender identity-based oppression) in an intersectional manner. Some easy ways to distinguish us vs liberal feminists: I'm pro the Nordic Model, anti-porn, and anti-essentialism beyond the physical realities of men being taller and heavier with more testosterone, and women being able to give birth. What makes me a feminist is not just ideology, but act…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/18 09:30 PM
7	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? I see you struggle with colloquialisms - that happens when you don't interact enough with people. I enjoy pointing out hypocrisies and watching people struggle to remain wilfully ignorant, but I have no idea why you keep replying since you've demonstrated you have no reasonable foundations for your beliefs beyond feelings, and I didn't get the impression you enjoyed having that pointed out (so much for 'self-improvement'). EDIT: never mind, I can see why. You've posted just over 1/3 the amount o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 05:40 PM
9	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? Nope! Not a supporter of child abuse, and any other women I know looking to marry want a rational guy, not one unable to comprehend reality isn't a nostalgic fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 02:48 PM
6	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? Stay solipsistic! Or don't (that'd be my advice). One day you'll discover facts>feels. Cya.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 02:09 PM
12	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? You speculate about women you don't even know Actually, I don't speculate, I use actual studies and reality. I also do know them, but I value studies over anecdotes. cling to your own viewpoint represented through the studies you brought to me. Yes, I am 'biased' because I value studies and hard reality over some emotional, nostalgic anecdotes. That's a pretty good bias. I have used a plethora of data to come to my conclusions. You have given me absolutely nothing that demonstrates the opposite.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 12:18 PM
9	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? I assume you'll argue that they maybe unhappy which I ask of you; why would they CHOOSE to do so in the 1st place? They most likely are, or will be. I highly doubt they would put on anything but a brave face. They 'choose' to do so because that's the cultural norm, and going against that results in social punishment. 14yos are impressionable and want to please their families. I'm not refusing anything because of feelings, I'm noting that the data which was been shoved in my face does not match w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 11:37 AM
4	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? The reasons they are attempting suicide is listed on the side: 'forced marriage, unwanted pregnancy, being financially dependent on one's husband, unfair divorce laws, unemployment and limited job opportunity for women' . I know it's against Islam to commit suicide, which is why it's so significant they are continuing to do so. I have no doubt these Muslim parents are trying to prepare their daughters best as they can for teenage marriage, but evidently it's not working because young marriage is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/18 11:05 AM
5	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? Yep. And having a mental illness has a detrimental effect on being 'pleasant' and 'fun'. Marrying young and being a woman in an Islamic-dominant country is associated with both. Plus, considering you're an advocate for a very patriarchial home set-up, I'm not sure how 'generosity' factors into it since she'll have no resources of her own - and at 16 it's not like she'd have any anyway. There's nothing material to be 'generous' with, and what isn't material (personality) is likely to be actively …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 10:52 PM
4	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? If it's affecting women across a huge variety of cultures, places and religions (which it is), it's extremely likely you'll get the same phenomena within Islamic-dominated countries. Of course, you can go with feelings>facts and decide Islam is somehow so uniquely special it'll produce completely opposite results to every other Abrahamic religion and human being. I just prefer to go by what the evidence seems to state. Pakistani women certainly don't seem to be experiencing this exceptional bene…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 08:47 PM
4	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? .....that doesn't somehow make the association with mental health problems vanish. Although it lacks representation of Islamic-dominated countries, here's a multinational study demonstrating the same thing. This issue isn't localised to the US or Western-specific culture more generally. There's a study which was done in Pakistan demonstrating the same thing too, however nearly all participants were also economically destitute so I'm not sure how relevant that is for you. If you want it I'll post…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 05:38 PM
5	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? So the 'best wife candidates' are women who need saving? Anyway, here's the full study. Furthermore, you wouldn't actually be 'saving a damsel in distress', you'd be creating a damsel in distress. Unless they'd been married and divorced already while still very young. I don't think they accounted for living near family. What difference do you think that would make? The vast majority were also still married and not divorced if you feel that would make a difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 05:08 PM
5	At what age are more than 50% of the best wife candidates already married? Women who marry before 20 (especially when they are adolescents - under 18 is associated with a 41% increased prevalence of psychiatric disorders) are at a much higher lifetime risk of developing mental illness. Does that factor in at all?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/18 03:43 PM
1	High School Counselor sentenced to 11 years and 8 months in prison for sexually assaulting two 16-year-old boys. The average sentencing for rapists is 9.8 years and actual time served is 5.4 years. This doesn't differentiate between serial rapists and those convicted of one rape, or between those who have been released then went on to rape again. Most rapists tend to be serial offenders (fact) which probably skews the number up slightly (my opinion based on the evidence). I don't know the US law that well (especially since they seem to vary between state) but they might treat sodomy and vaginal rape the sa…	/r/PussyPassDenied	23/04/18 10:59 AM
1	Man with sympathy for both MRA's and Feminists here. My one comment/criticism of the MRA movement. The feminism I see offline is very different to what I see online, on Tumblr. Tumblr is far more extreme, has a very different population and is the 'edgiest' part of feminism (remembering that Tumblr as a whole is just a bunch of edgy young people trying to out-edge each other). Saying it is the direction of representative of the feminist movement is as hyperbolic and ridiculous as 4chan's /r9k/ or /b/ being the forefront and the direction of the MRM. Then again I live in the UK and Tumblr is o…	/r/MensRights	23/06/14 08:08 AM
1	Man with sympathy for both MRA's and Feminists here. My one comment/criticism of the MRA movement. That's the thing though. The entire Tumblr part of the movement is an echo chamber. It's a very tight community that basically all talk at each other. Those not at the community generally point and laugh or shake their heads and they only ever shout the same things at each other - it's a broken record that doesn't really leave the few blogs that they are situated.	/r/MensRights	23/06/14 07:56 AM
1	Man with sympathy for both MRA's and Feminists here. My one comment/criticism of the MRA movement. if Tumblr is any form of a guideline protip: It isn't.	/r/MensRights	23/06/14 07:42 AM
1	Over a million men are unknowingly raising a child that isn't theirs. The women who do this are committing a crime. (Post-Purge Version) Do you think women shouldn't have their own jails? Just wondering	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/14 03:28 PM
1	Disgusting attitude to female rape on my Facebook feed. He doesn't have to pay child support - the baby is being taken away from the mother and put into foster care.	/r/MensRights	23/05/14 07:56 AM
3	Feeling the love in Seattle! Aka: don't talk to any woman ever! Sounds like you're one of the takers. I don't go to bars, I don't drink and I don't let people buy me stuff because of people who have attitudes like yourself even if I intend to treat them later (they take me out for a meal, I take them out for a meal, et cetera). You don't owe them a drink. They don't owe you sex. If you buy them a drink, it is your choice. If they have sex with you, it is their choice (assuming you've already chosen you want to have sex with them as well). Attacking my charac…	/r/MensRights	02/05/14 01:54 PM
3	Feeling the love in Seattle! Aka: don't talk to any woman ever! If you buy some one a drink, that's your choice. Whether or not they have sex with you is their choice. Sex is not a favour - it's something people do together when they both want to and enjoy it together. You are not "owed" sex for buying some one a drink. If you feel as if people are taking advantage of you buying them drinks (because they take it but then don't sleep with you as if they are a prostitute you pay with alcohol) then STOP BUYING THEM DRINKS. Make them buy their own damn drinks an…	/r/MensRights	02/05/14 01:23 PM
3	While both teenage boys and girls value marriage and family, boys are significantly more pessimistic about the chances of a lasting marriage.... It isn't something abnormal or something created by how marriage has changed in the modern era in which we live - they have ALWAYS been more pessimistic. This isn't really something significant as a 'new finding' since it's been around since the 1970s. If you factor in the later study you also see why the results would be why they are. Men are not pessimistic as a whole - they care more than women except they do not go to the extreme that women do.	/r/MensRights	25/04/14 10:18 AM
2	While both teenage boys and girls value marriage and family, boys are significantly more pessimistic about the chances of a lasting marriage.... They are not "significantly" more pessimistic about the chances of a lasting marriage - your source says "little more" as they are not even 10 points less optimistic than girls: Boys are almost ten percentage points less desirous than girls, however, and they are also a little more pessimistic about the possibility of a long-term The graphs also shows that this is not a new trend - men have always dipped around that amount below women right from the late 1970s where the graph dates back to. Boys…	/r/MensRights	25/04/14 09:33 AM
3	Estrogen/fertility doesn't really decline until late 20s, so what is the logic of only dating teenagers? Pre-teen marriages were reserved for those who were very well off and were often under strict supervision. These marriages were more political than anything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/14 07:46 PM
2	Estrogen/fertility doesn't really decline until late 20s, so what is the logic of only dating teenagers? I don't have one for earlier, but in the 1890s (when life expectancy was around the 40s area) woman married at 23 and I assumed they had children not too long after that (so they would have been in their mid twenties). In fact, the lowest age of marriage from the consensus data is in the 1950s were it was still slightly over 20 for women. Since religion and virginity was still put on a stupidly high pedestal it's safe to assume a lot of these women were virgins marrying or were marrying the pers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/14 08:08 AM
1	Estrogen/fertility doesn't really decline until late 20s, so what is the logic of only dating teenagers? I agree, but mainly for reasons of education and emotional maturity, I'm glad, but despite agreeing with me that "[teenage mothers] miscarriage more, they stillborn more, their foetuses are at risk of having developmental problems and for the mother: she more likely to have post-natal depression and her chances of every other depression goes up after birth" those still aren't a problem for you? I agree educational and emotional maturity are definitely to be considered but just because she might …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/14 05:49 PM
4	Estrogen/fertility doesn't really decline until late 20s, so what is the logic of only dating teenagers? Teenage mothers have the lowest mortality risk of any age group I have a lot of difficulty believing they are lower than every other age group. Even they were, it does not counter the other myriad of problems that occur if you have a baby at 16. It's an overall terrible idea for the vast majority of 16 year old girls that is best left until they are at least 18/19. In this day and age the earliest 'sensible' dat would probably be 21-25 if you assumed no financial difficulty and there being a per…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/14 05:16 PM
18	Estrogen/fertility doesn't really decline until late 20s, so what is the logic of only dating teenagers? What? Teenage mothers (by which I mean around 15-16) are at a high mortality risk but also have a boatload of other issues aside. They miscarriage more, they stillborn more, their foetuses are at risk of having developmental problems and for the mother: she more likely to have post-natal depression and her chances of every other depression goes up after birth. The best age is from 18-24. But having kids in your late 20s isn't an issue. Having babies after 30 isn't the best idea for women and hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/14 09:48 AM
3	If men are ever allowed to waive all responsibility to their children/child support, how would that affect future generations of boys (and girls) who grow up without fathers, believing they were abandoned legally? Will it create more misandry? would exercise more caution when determining a suitable mate. Women who are not pursuing a family would be unaffected I am for some sort of financial release for men when it comes to children they don't want. However I think this argument is so easily refuted it isn't even worth trying to use. Why? Because you can just say "Without financial abortion, we would encourage men to exercise more caution when determining a suitable mate." People are deceptive and people can change. Shit about "should …	/r/MensRights	05/04/14 12:00 PM
1	We (men) are not fucking sharks! I personally don't think what they are doing is appropriate. Doesn't mean you are suddenly exempt from criticism. I don;t think these women wanted ot become a wank bank either - they wanted attention...for THEIR CAUSE. It's activism. As I said, I think it is a lewd and inappropriate way to get the message across but I can see how it makes sense in relation to the cause. I think the guy taking pictures who isn't doing anything apart from trying to make these women uncomfortable and turn activism …	/r/MensRights	31/03/14 07:07 PM
1	We (men) are not fucking sharks! Fortunately for sanity, the law disagrees with you I wouldn't change the law to agree with me. I'm saying I don't agree with unconsenting pictures being taken of strangers to show where I am coming from on this. You have taken away that I am somehow asking for the laws to change. They wouldn't and they can't and for a lot of situations it shouldn't. Mmm, projection. I don't see how it is projection. I applied his own logic to him. He can't expect others to have consequences for his actions witho…	/r/MensRights	30/03/14 10:09 AM
1	We (men) are not fucking sharks! Taking pictures in public doesn't make me a creeper. It might make people like you call me one, but that's not the same thing. Just as acting lawfully and fairly doesn't make me a jerk. This is taking one thing I said out of context. I didn't say just "taking pictures in public". I said "taking sexually charged pictures of people who are trying to protest" does. As the image says (and the part I'm guessing people are upvoting for) is that "men are not sharks". I agree with this. This whole argum…	/r/MensRights	30/03/14 10:05 AM
2	We (men) are not fucking sharks! The idea was that I wouldn't actually take any pictures of you unless you were taking pictures of these women. It's basically tit for tat. I don't think it's right to take pictures of unconsenting people in public - whatever gender or attire. That's not my problem. I'm not afraid of you or your threats. It's a problem for you though, because you're trying to live in a world where actions have no consequences and that's delusional. As are you if you are hypercritical enough to say this but then n…	/r/MensRights	29/03/14 10:13 PM
3	We (men) are not fucking sharks! But I'm gonna look. Hell I'm gonna stare. And stare and keep staring. Then I'm gonna get my camera, the huge professional one because I'm a professional photographer, and I'm going to take pictures of you. Lots of them, high definition, huge megapixels. And I'll probably post them on the internet. And I won't ask for your permission or be even slightly concerned if you don't like it. I would probably take pictures of you taking pictures of these women. I would post them on the internet and simil…	/r/MensRights	29/03/14 09:38 PM
1	Another campaign to solve boys problems, by teaching them to value girls and women more. Oh goddamn I meant like the program was a constructive thing ahhhh I shouldn't write things late at night.	/r/MensRights	25/03/14 11:56 PM
2	Another campaign to solve boys problems, by teaching them to value girls and women more. I would still call it a men's rights issue but I'm happy to see the rest of the country becoming more accepting of the LGBT community :)	/r/MensRights	25/03/14 09:21 PM
1	Another campaign to solve boys problems, by teaching them to value girls and women more. I don't mind if they are asking boys to value girls (one gender can seem quite alien to the other so I think it might be needed) as long as they are also focusing on other men's issues such as mental health and education - which they appear to be. I don't think it is wrong to ask boys to value girls or girls to value boys. They also seem to more mention girls and boys in the context of fighting gender stereotypes which I also think is a good thing. Men should not feel devalued for being house-hu…	/r/MensRights	25/03/14 10:52 AM
5	Another campaign to solve boys problems, by teaching them to value girls and women more. They don't even mention talking about male sexuality. The there are only two brief mentions of girls. Here: promiscuity are the markers of ‘success’, and that women and homosexual men represent the opposite of these characteristics and therefore can be treated as lesser people Which does talk about women but also GAY MEN. Gay men DO get treated as lesser beings at times too so I feel this program is a constructive thing. This is also specifically referring to boys feeling under pressure to have …	/r/MensRights	24/03/14 09:11 PM
1	Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard It takes more than a decade to make change. I personally think women are the majority of rape victims. I have no problem with people using that as an argument because you can simply reply "does that make them the only ones?" It doesn't matter who is raped more. Having less male victims doesn't devalue them - it makes them rarer, but not meaningless. It is going to take a long time for people to recognise men as victims due to the long history of our gender roles and male disposability. One canno…	/r/MensRights	22/03/14 07:21 PM
1	My university is holding a free self-defense course for students. Guess which gender is excluded from participating? Not the guy you were replying to but Title IX only applies if the school is the one that is funding it - this looks like a standalone organisation. They also have a R.A.D. for men and could argue that it isn't discrimination - only too little demand for R.A.D. men to be taught	/r/MensRights	22/03/14 11:48 AM
1	Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard The CDC said According to the web links, the “40% of rapists were women” was derived from these two steps: 1)Combining the estimated number of female rape victims with the estimated number of being-made-to-penetrate male victims in the 12 months prior to the survey to conclude that about 50% of the rape or being-made-to-penetrate victims were males; 2) Multiplying the estimated percentage (79%) of male being-made-to-penetrate victims who reported having had female perpetrators in these victims’ …	/r/MensRights	21/03/14 09:00 PM
1	Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard They might not have the % for whatever reason. I personally think feminism can focus on women if it wants - people on /r/MensRights sometimes argue that feminism claims to be for both genders and therefore SHOULD help male victims...but the general consensus appears to be that feminism - even if some claim it does - doesn't focus on both genders equally. It focuses on the victimisation of women. We cannot dictate how another movement is run. We can criticise it but we cannot make the whole movem…	/r/MensRights	21/03/14 08:54 PM
1	Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard I personally believe that (outside of prisons where men are victimised more) that women are raped more and most of these perpetrators are men. I don't think this devalues the concept of male rape. Even if you go by 40% (which I personally think is inflated and based on bad maths but let's accept it for the purpose of discussion) it is still just a large minority. Society can think whatever - they don't really like the MRM as it stands so honestly the MRM can do no right until they do something t…	/r/MensRights	21/03/14 08:45 PM
0	Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard It also compares lifetime numbers to 12-month numbers. The 40% figure is wrong even when you include being 'forced to penetrate'. The math is bad. There have been a LOT of rebuttals to this...and not just by the CDC. Male rape IS wrong (when they are forced to penetrate/forcibly penetrated) but using incorrectly manipulated statistics and bad math isn't going to help to show this - it only de-franchises the MRM and confuses. And anyway, who cares if male rape is less than/equal to/more than fema…	/r/MensRights	21/03/14 01:19 PM
1	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour That's up to the people themselves and to the extent they have these thoughts. I would personally not really associate with an ephebophile unless they were a family member/very close friend that admitted they had the problem. I wouldn't really put them in jobs where they would be teaching teens/kids either (which is common sense for both the kids and the person in question). I do not speak for everyone and other people can associate with whoever they want. Frankly, it's not really any of my busi…	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 09:46 PM
1	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour Woops I thought you replied to my OTHER post (in this thread) where I differentiated twice. I still don't support having the state of mind but I do not think it should legally punishable just to think about it.	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 08:44 PM
2	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour Well they could stay sad and repressed but I don't think they should be forced to...there could at least be the option to go get help. I do not agree with the AoC laws of those places (in the UK it is 16 which is okay I guess but I personally think 17 is the best age for AoC laws) - for the reasons in my post and more personal ones which I can't really include if the discussion it to remain objective.	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 08:03 PM
1	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour I differentiated between the state of mind and acting on it twice.	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 07:34 PM
2	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour I said I was condemning for action and not thoughts (at least) twice in my post. At least legally anyway. They have freedom of speech/thought but I have the freedom of expression to not associate with that person. I can quote at least once saying that people can be attracted to some strange/different things therefore I don't think it should be legally punishable. Just as with peadophillia, a man/woman having some rather disturbing attractions to children/teenagers far younger than they are would…	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 07:33 PM
2	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour I feel you have a number of very popular misconceptions in your post so I'm going to make my comment long and thorough because I think the information below would help out a lot of people and not just yourself. Please do read. Insee your point. Ephebophilia to me isn't quite as bad on a simply biological scale. The point at which it becomes wrong is a social standpoint where children are not trimmed to be adults until they are a quarter the way or more through their lives. Biologically it doesn'…	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 04:36 PM
1	Women are 97% of babysitters hired, but feminists are outraged that men charge $0.50 more an hour I'm on the generally unpopular opinion that ephebophilla is bad as well. Not as bad as pedophillia but I still think grown adults (by this I mean >19, give or take depending on the age of the younger person) should not be lusting after 13-16 year olds. Ok if an 18yo and a 16yo get to together but I won't accept being an 'ephebohile' as an excuse if/when a >21yo of any gender gets with a 14 yo of any gender.	/r/MensRights	19/03/14 01:00 PM
0	Hold everything. Something sensible just happened. This must be stopped at once. I agreed that if what you said is true and she was as convincing as you and the article claim she was (which I honestly think is hyperbole but for the sake of the argument let's say she was) then no he isn't a peado. I was just saying I don't think ephebophilia is something to be accepted either.	/r/MensRights	17/03/14 11:00 PM
1	Hold everything. Something sensible just happened. This must be stopped at once. On that grounds I guess yea, he's not a paedo. However I don't think ephebophillia is ok either. I understand relative to paedophillia it doesn't seem as bad but grown men have no business having sex with 13 year old girls. He should get jail time for this and he isn't. (This isn't really all that relevant but I feel AOC should be 17 with 1 year either way for those under 17...I think 15 year olds should have sex if they want...with other people their age. Some one >20 has no business with a 15 …	/r/MensRights	17/03/14 09:02 PM
6	Hold everything. Something sensible just happened. This must be stopped at once. even though she could not lawfully consent, and he was aware of her youth Nope. He knew she was kid and he fucked her anyway. I call pedophilia and all these excuses over her partying and dressing older means nothing because he knew she was young through the facade anyway. He was not deceived and new exactly what was going on. He is a grown man. Grown men are not slaves to their penises/hormones. EDIT: I'm not sure why I got 10 downvotes from saying he knew her age (stated in the source OP provi…	/r/MensRights	17/03/14 06:20 PM
1	No, men are not all potential paedophiles I've personally ever seen or heard of it but it looks more like a comedy thing - maybe it adds to it but I wouldn't say this was the starting point :D	/r/MensRights	08/03/14 11:07 AM
2	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? That's why I said "under most " - I am aware it doesn't happen with all of them and state laws can be diverse. I am also unaware of Utah laws	/r/MensRights	08/03/14 12:32 AM
2	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? Under most US laws a man cannot be raped by a woman unless it was statutory. Only sexually assaulted if the case can even get there. That doesn't make it right.	/r/MensRights	07/03/14 11:53 PM
3	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? That's fair enough. Some of the articles on this case are pretty misleading - including the OP's. I guess it's well-intentioned in order to create a rapport to talk about this problem in general but it's misleading nonetheless.	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 08:50 PM
1	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? Clearly you have been misunderstanding my responses then. I don't min if people see but they should not be photographing strangers' private parts. If it's exposed then yes it can be seen and yes people will see it. If some one runs up to you in a trenchcoat and flashes their boobs/penis then that's them deliberately wanting to be seen and I doubt they would care if a photo/video was taking (though hat they are doing is illegal). That's just what's going to happen. Taking an unconsentful video/pi…	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 06:34 PM
0	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? Edited then to say it doesn't expose you to the public unless walking across grating, glass floor (which another floor that has people below it) or a seriously short one. This is just ridiculous semantics.	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 04:53 PM
0	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? Some one literally just linked me that case and I have replied conceding that was the case and I got my info from the OP and other news sources I could dig up. It has been clarified this wasn't an "up"skirt but the scenario you have mentioned. It's there to read if you like.	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 04:40 PM
2	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? I do not think that wearing a skirt exposes you to the public (unless it is a seriously short, walking across grating, or a glass floor (which another floor that has people below it)) is permission to take a picture of the underwear. I'm not really for people taking unconsenting pictures of strangers at all though. That's a personal view point. Anther user linked me the actual case file as opposed to the OP and it turned out he didn't take an "up"skirt shot so to speak but her legs were slightly…	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 04:38 PM
5	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? But nobody saw it. He wasn't under a grating or a glass floor (most places that have those don't allow women to wear skirts - I went to the Ford car factory where it's all grating and there was a strict no-skirt rule). It was not visible to the general public. He was on a train - an MBTA trolley. Ignoring facts for "well she could have done x or y" is a bit silly considering we know what happened and he wasn't some one who looked up and accidentally saw up some one's skirt and took a picture, he…	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 04:23 PM
1	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? How was it visible to the public? Unless the skirt only covers half of her butt-cheek (in which case she would be illegally dressed in quite a number of states...especially during day time when there are children around) the public can't see anything. He only got to see because he put his camera up there; he is one person. Not the entire public.	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 04:02 PM
19	Boston Area Rape Crisis Center: “Sexual violence doesn’t have to involve actual touching” - then what isn't? all he did was take a picture of what her choice in clothing exposed to the public. Her clothing did not expose her vagina/panties to the public. That's why he had to go out of his way (sticking a camera up her skirt) in order to take the picture. If it was visible to the public he wouldn't need to do that. He could just take a picture for a normal standing position. He invaded her personal privacy and violated her personal space. I don't know how many guys would be happy if some one tried to sh…	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 03:52 PM
0	Male Feminist banned from /r/Feminism for saying women are hot. Women objectivism? /r/thebluepill and /r/cringpics are very feministy and I see you post there too - if you don't think feminists discuss situations with enough reason and logic are you going to keep frequenting there too? Not being confrontational or anything...just asking. It's entirely up to you as to what you like to browse :)	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 11:55 AM
2	No, men are not all potential paedophiles Well very recently we've had a massive influx of peados being outed - my friend's school has been on the news 3x now as it came out the priests were fiddlers (she was livid because what was considered a relatively good, expensive, private catholic school is now considered a paedoground). Then you have all the outing of the paedos on the BBC and parents are getting extremely paranoid of their young children... I don't know how it is in the rest of the UK but where I am most of the school crop up …	/r/MensRights	06/03/14 10:34 AM
1	What should I say to this? I apologise then; I have heard stats very similar to that before (though I am unsure of the legitimacy)!	/r/MensRights	05/03/14 02:50 PM
1	What should I say to this? "54% of girls have rape fantasies and want you to force yourself on them" They don't necessarily. That's why it's a rape "fantasy". It's consensual rough sex. A bit like light BDSM - she isn't being actually raped but is enjoying the feeling of being dominated and overpowered. I really doubt 54% of girls ACTUALLY want to get forcefully raped.	/r/MensRights	05/03/14 01:37 PM
4	It's your provocative clothing, not your internal genitalia. I don't think it's really just to to do with how you dress. I used to dress like utter crap (jeans, baggy shirt, oversized hoodie on top) to avoid catcalling but it still happened quite a lot. Granted I probably would have gotton more if I was dressed provocatively but weirdly enough I think age is a factor. I got a lot of street harassment 12-15 than I do now despite the preventative measures I had taken even though I now dress better.	/r/MensRights	03/03/14 01:09 PM
3	Here is a perfect example of sexism against men, by feminists Well it's not going to be the women in OP's screencap because there is nothing to say that ANY of them are feminists. They could be hardcore MRAs, or traditionalist conservatives, or anything really. They could be feminists. But we have no goddamn idea.	/r/MensRights	23/02/14 05:32 PM
2	Wow, just wow. This blew my mind the other day when I went to the strip club How is that? I thought most of that was stereotypes	/r/MensRights	18/02/14 12:00 AM
0	Wow, just wow. This blew my mind the other day when I went to the strip club I'm not in America but..why China?	/r/MensRights	17/02/14 09:42 PM
3	Such one-sided thinking is unbelievable. 64 likes on my newsfeed... But then see this isn't one sided thinking. I don't think that tumblr is one sided thinking either. They are people talking about issues in relation to themselves...they aren't talking about things they haven't experienced and are sticking to the topic of feminism as here you are focused on male-centered topics. Imo, one sided thinking would be if at the end of every poster it said "and x has no problems!!!" EG: "I shouldn't be afraid to travel on my own as a girl" would become ""I shouldn't be …	/r/MensRights	11/02/14 01:03 PM
10	Todays false report and arrest comes from two 11 year old girls It isn't just "11-year-old girls". Most children (as /u/c0mputar states) lack moral compass and while young children do lie they don't usually lie about more serious matters. When they do, it's due to a lack of understanding over how SERIOUS the lie is while adults begin to take it to a whole other level. Many children lie about things like their parents being abusive and such simply because the don't have the concept of how serious things are. Does it mean we should never take a child's accusat…	/r/MensRights	07/02/14 11:09 AM
1	[Trending on /r/science] Study: Medical Marijuana Legalization Correlates with Significantly Reduced Male Suicide Rates I would have thought they should be entitled to the same medical help and treatment as anyone else with suicidal thoughts. It's as if you didn't read my post... Why take that away from them I said I was for legalising it anyway. I'm not talking about people going through a rough time and are using weed to get rid of the stress while they overcome it. I'm talking about the people the OP is talking about which are those who are turning to weed just so they don't commit suicide. Treatment for those…	/r/MensRights	04/02/14 09:59 AM
1	[Trending on /r/science] Study: Medical Marijuana Legalization Correlates with Significantly Reduced Male Suicide Rates I think it might help overcome a not-to-fargone depression but I don't see drugs personally as a good treating mechanism for some one who wants to commit suicide...it's a coping mechanism, sure, but why have them cope when they could recover? Why not just target the core of the depression? You have a fair enough argument but I'm not really talking to people who are just going through a hard time and need help fixing it...I'm talking about the people who are using weed just so that they don't com…	/r/MensRights	04/02/14 09:55 AM
1	[Trending on /r/science] Study: Medical Marijuana Legalization Correlates with Significantly Reduced Male Suicide Rates I agree but here are probably some people so disturbed that they need professional help If these are the people committing suicide then I would personally believe they are so disturbed that they need professional help. Weed might help them cope but I don't want to reduce suicidal men to just 'coping'...I'm more for the recovery that I don't think weed can give to some one that far into depression. Maybe people who aren't so depressed will find this a fine alternative treatment to drugs (tbh I'm …	/r/MensRights	04/02/14 09:54 AM
1	[Trending on /r/science] Study: Medical Marijuana Legalization Correlates with Significantly Reduced Male Suicide Rates As I said I do support legalisation for weed - I just wouldn't use this as my main argument to put forward as it sounds like I'd just be avoiding the issue of why men are suicidal...I don't think this is OP's message at all but it is a possible interpretation.	/r/MensRights	03/02/14 10:38 PM
3	[Trending on /r/science] Study: Medical Marijuana Legalization Correlates with Significantly Reduced Male Suicide Rates While that makes sense it still means the weed is being used as a crutch - if alcohol was made illegal I think we would probably see far more suicides as well due to people using it to calm their sorrows. Ditto with smoking. These men who use weed to handle their stress need ACTUAL HELP and not be left to sit glassy-eyed and high while feeling dead inside when they come back down to earth. I do think weed should be legalised but I would not support it for this reason. Suicidal men deserve better…	/r/MensRights	03/02/14 09:04 PM
3	I am not a sexual object Men are allowed to wear shorts and it's also socially acceptable for them to have their shirts off and display their abs/muscles in general. Fat men are stigmatised for this as fat women are for also wearing revealing clothing. Due to them being allowed to have their shirts completely off they are actually MORE allowed than women - a woman wearing a tight/low cut top is the same as a guy wearing a tight top to show off his definition.	/r/MensRights	03/02/14 03:13 PM
1	Should paternity testing at birth be standard procedure? Aside from some one baiting (in which case I'd agree) there could be situations where the father also knows there is a chance it's not his but has accepted that anyway and they were going to stay together. But then actually knowing it isn't could make him change his mind and leave when she would have otherwise aborted. It's more unfair on the kid than the two parents.	/r/MensRights	30/01/14 10:39 PM
2	Should paternity testing at birth be standard procedure? It would actually because if it turns out the kid isn't yours and you walk off she no longer has the chance to abort her baby. A simple blood draw sounds a lot better tbh...	/r/MensRights	30/01/14 10:36 AM
1	School ditches rules and loses bullies It's more of a health and safety thing since parents could sue over their kids getting hurt because of the lack of H&S regulations - just as /u/the_icebear stated above. It isn't really feminism as much as it is parents being paranoid and overprotective of their children. The whole "think of the children!" thing has gotten to the point where children aren't allowed to be children like they are here and instead sit inside eating trash and playing video games.	/r/MensRights	27/01/14 05:26 PM
1	studies showing that male scientists get offered more money for a job than female scientists, that scientists are more likely to be willing to mentor a male student than a female student, and that a m That's pretty presumptuous. I do not but that appears to be what's implied. THE OP STATES that the women do get lower starting salaries. It's even quoted by the top comment. I'm assuming you are also aware of the thread we are in at the moment.	/r/MensRights	26/01/14 10:52 AM
2	studies showing that male scientists get offered more money for a job than female scientists, that scientists are more likely to be willing to mentor a male student than a female student, and that a m As a user has already said, people are not just 'human capital' and have rights. This also doesn't explain why the women will have a smaller starting salary than the men (considering the employer has taken such an incredible 'risk' of hiring some one capable to do the job). I would personally say on job forms there shouldn't be a first name and gender slot so there isn't complains of inequality of opportunity (for races and gender) and then it's just down to the interview. Another 'fact' for the…	/r/MensRights	26/01/14 10:17 AM
2	studies showing that male scientists get offered more money for a job than female scientists, that scientists are more likely to be willing to mentor a male student than a female student, and that a m But both are being discriminated against due to prejudice. Why not just hire the better applicant? Men will soon have paternity leave (some companies already give it out) and eventually it will level out. If she's done the work to get her degree/masters/PHD/whatever she doesn't suddenly become redundant because she was born with a uterus...	/r/MensRights	26/01/14 09:06 AM
2	studies showing that male scientists get offered more money for a job than female scientists, that scientists are more likely to be willing to mentor a male student than a female student, and that a m One could turn that around and say "this is why we don't want to have more male teachers at this primary school. SOME ONE has to pay the price for it and I don't want the school to have a rep for kiddy-fiddling!"	/r/MensRights	26/01/14 12:23 AM
1	Suck It Up I wouldn't call that the "friend zone"... Maybe your personal experience differs from mine but I have found women to be more active in creating outings and remembering birthdays and such (unless you mean random gifts which I personally find a bit strange in platonic, simple friendships (ie: not best friends)). I was just making sure you weren't talking about women giving relationships in return for a man's friendship but see now you are not :) Just didn't want to assume things before hearing you…	/r/MensRights	23/01/14 02:37 PM
1	Suck It Up Friendship implies the existence of a reciprocal relationship. Women do not reciprocally give in male friendship situations. If it exists anywhere it's in the friend zone Would you care to expand on what you mean by this here? I don't want to get the wrong idea (or for others to).	/r/MensRights	22/01/14 08:08 PM
1	Video for women's self-defense teaches women to choke a man unconscious if he buys her a drink, hits on her. Yeah choking is a bit far but if I was in that situation I'm not sure what I would do if he was already resisting my attempts to push him away. This is a skit as well so I'd imagine some one my size trying to choke someone that size would end kind of badly for me. In the skit, there was also no bartender around... I don't really know though. I don't frequent bars or nightclubs or any of that jazz because shit like that might happen and it's a bit scary really.	/r/MensRights	11/01/14 03:13 PM
5	Video for women's self-defense teaches women to choke a man unconscious if he buys her a drink, hits on her. If some one gives you a drink and starts getting super touchy feely while you are alone at the bar and won't leave you alone...I'd get suspicious of the man and his drink he just offered.	/r/MensRights	11/01/14 12:46 PM
3	Men: Damned if we do. Damned if we don't. I read somewhere that burkas (or niqabs) in the more oppressive middle eastern countries are to be worn by women because their man (father or husband) has a right to know where she is looking. So it is at least a little about men. I'm not well read on Islamic culture however so I cannot claim much more than that.	/r/MensRights	30/12/13 03:09 PM
1	The Artificial Womb Is Born And The World of the Matrix Begins, feminists will be freaking out in 3. 2. 1... Well actually we hit that point a few years ago when women were actually able to reproduce without men. It hasn't changed anything and I doubt the artificial wombs will change anything either aside...however maybe it'll mean women who are too at risk to have children will now be able to do so using an artificial womb (though this one can only keep a foetus alive for 3 weeks...not near enough to actually be able to carry a full pregnancy).	/r/MensRights	30/12/13 01:01 PM
2	Think rape shield laws are creepy? Take a look at Evidence Code § 1108, under which "evidence" of other sexual assaults you MIGHT have perpetrated (and were not even convicted of) is admissible. Thing is if you apply this to male victims as well it hurts them too. If we all bring our prejudices into court all the time then the amount of male rape victims who are getting justice (protip: it's not that high) will get even lower. If a woman or a man had random sex a few years ago and hasn't since then they will face undue prejudice towards their case because of it. In addition to this, engaging in risky behaviour (such as sleeping with people you don't know) doesn't mean you cannot get rap…	/r/MensRights	30/12/13 12:05 PM
1	Fidelbogen Tweets against the White Ribbon Campaign. You should too. I'm in school at the moment and my boarding school internet blocks most sites (and probably your blog) so I'm not entirely sure where to start. I know there are some more senior members who might have more insight into this...? If I had the funds and full usage of the net I'd probably consider trying to set up something though I'm not sure what I'd do...	/r/MensRights	29/12/13 02:01 AM
1	Fidelbogen Tweets against the White Ribbon Campaign. You should too. Instead of shitting on the White Ribbon campaign why don't we set up some sort of coloured ribbon campaign for violence against men ourselves? Even if it is gendered on a topic (that it shouldn't be really since violence can come from any gender) it's still a good cause and it just seems bitter and cruel to do this when we could just create another campaign that would maybe lead to a non-gendered anti-violence campaign in the future - which would change the world for the better as opposed to may…	/r/MensRights	27/12/13 07:18 PM
0	Woman reports sexual assault by 2 men, when proven unfounded, no charges for her... If you punish for being unfounded then you may punish real victims and hurt them coming forward. If you prove the accusation to be FALSE then it's a different can of worms and they should be punished. If you report getting robbed, they just drop the case if it's 'unfounded'. If you lied then you get done for wasting police time/something spelt a bit like "purgery" (I'm not a great speller).	/r/MensRights	19/12/13 09:51 AM
2	I've tried to see the opinions of /r/feminism and /r/twoxchromosomes on this image and it has been removed from both. What are you guys opinions on this? Makes sense, right? Women are not the only people who get raped and men aren't the only rapists...I know you didn't mean it that way but it always helps to remind yourself that the dynamic isn't always how it's stereotypically presented :) Onto your actual point...we can do both as long as it's done respectfully on BOTH sides. Ie: not every stranger is a rapist but it is good to be cautious. You are not responsible for some one raping you - it should not have happened and it shouldn't...all you can do is try not to…	/r/MensRights	16/12/13 06:37 PM
7	Student Suspended For One Year and Stripped of Full College Scholarship for Hugging Teacher Male afection is not inherently predatory or aggressive. This paints men in an unfair light...some have said that the boy was told not to hug the teacher and he continued. He may or may not have kissed her which is definitly innappropriate. People like you that mercilessly paint being aggressive and possibly predatory as 'male affection' are what cause the fear mongering and criminalization of it. If it was indeed all innocent then yes they overreacted and it's a seperate discussion. However we …	/r/MensRights	16/12/13 10:54 AM
-1	Gender neutral "Be Smart" rape prevention campaign does not exclude male victims! Ireland doing it right. But they are still both very gender neutral - the whole pdf title is very disheartening but when it's on a wall as a poster no one is going to see the labelling. Plus I think there should always be PSAs about consent since it's something no one is that clear on at the moment.	/r/MensRights	08/12/13 01:54 PM
3	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. Well, this list is not my own (I will not take credit) but there are plenty of better examples on there. If you have your own, feel free to post! A world less ignorant is a better one :)	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 10:48 PM
1	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. and then arguing the point, which you have now admitted, and have admitted you were wrong. Either you can't read or I'm misudnerstanding what you're getting in a huff about - which is that women are underrepresented. I have said this from my first reply to you and acknowledged it RIGHT HERE: As for being underrepresented...not really their own fault Yet you're sidestepping as to whether or not it is their fault (which sounds like it's because you know it isn't and don't want to admit you're own …	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 07:14 PM
1	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. No I said that was a different argument for a different thread. (Because I am not willing to start a new argument in lieu of the first). Or you could just give a yes or no as I will below. So you concede that men invented more than women? I do because men were not only more encouraged, but allowed to invent and go into those fields for centuries where women could not. It only makes logical sense that men invented more than women. I don't see why you aren't conceding that this was the case.	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 06:55 PM
3	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. While I agree, it is a billion dollar business and he asked for things we use in everyday life - many children still use and play with that.	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 06:40 PM
2	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. Nobody was allowed to do shit until they fought for the right to do it, men included. Men are shot daily for trivial things. And this is an entirely different argument (which I would discuss in it's own place, not as part of a never ending story of linked arguments where you fail to address the first.) So you concede it's not really women's fault for being underrepresented since they had no rights to do so? If I said black people are over-represented in running events, sure you could come with e…	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 06:39 PM
3	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. It does refute it. He says women haven't contributed things to society we work with everyday when he's fundamentally wrong. As for being underrepresented...not really their won fault. You must understand in the past when all these inventions made by men were around women weren't really "allowed" to go out and become engineers/inventors. A few days ago we had that whole 'Violence Against Women' day because 14 women were shot for studying engineering as women. It is not entirely their own fault. I…	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 05:44 PM
1	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. .......I don't understand what the problem is. Your quote isn't done right. It says: Ruth Handler invented Barbie, which your younger relatives play with Dr. Grace Murray Hopper led the team that invented the COBOL Computer Language Martha Coston created the flare gun Care to enlighten me?	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 05:43 PM
16	FEMINIST: I would like to offer a different solution: Let's tax men. In fact, let's tax men a lot, more than they're already being taxed, and let's not tax women at all. If they really want to go there, can we just kick them out? Or at least call them out on it? How much shit have women contributed to the society we live in? Yeah, don't even start with the birth crap. How many of the inventions we use every day were created by women? How much of our infrastructure was made and is being maintained by women? How many women built the roads we drive on every day? The buildings we live and work in every day? The food we buy at our grocery stores? Not to be overly ped…	/r/MensRights	07/12/13 11:31 AM
0	Shouldn’t abortion include a man’s choice? — He tried in vain to stop the abortion legally but learned that a father’s rights only begin at the birth of his child slaughter of another life that isn't the woman in question. Except this ilife is literally a living parasite until birth. You can't place the life of what is still a parasite until birth. Late-term abortions are banned in most places so the abortion is mostly a ball of cells. How is it her body? A suicide would be her body an abortion is not her body Because the fetus (parasite until birth) lives in her body. She is a human incubator. The problem is if you outlaw abortion, scared women will look…	/r/MensRights	02/12/13 12:23 PM
7	Shouldn’t abortion include a man’s choice? — He tried in vain to stop the abortion legally but learned that a father’s rights only begin at the birth of his child Until we have artificial wombs it will be incredibly difficult (and morally abhorrent) to deal with matter involving the woman's body. If she wants to abort the baby you cannot prevent her (and should not be able to) prevent her from doing so. She can't be a human incubator and take all the risks that come with pregnancy for a child she doesn't want - the stress of it all could harm the baby if she was forced to anyway. For a man not wanting the child the mother wants all we can ask for are fina…	/r/MensRights	01/12/13 04:24 PM
2	Custody Battle Raises Questions About the Rights of Fathers but have to return on birth. Additionally, if they want to restrict the "pregnant women's autonomy" then they should justify it under the same rules that apply to the rights of the unborn baby that the country/state might or might not currently have against a woman being able to do whatever she wants to her body so long as she's pregnant. She shouldn't HAVE to return. Shared custody can work. I don't think there should be a law stating a parent can't move X miles away unless it was imposed by th…	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 12:56 AM
2	Custody Battle Raises Questions About the Rights of Fathers Why does she specifically have to move? I was saying you could say the father has to move. She's a pregnant woman and as an adult woman she has freedom to move about where she pleases. They can make shared custody work across the country. It's not impossible and neither adults have to be restricted anywhere.	/r/MensRights	30/11/13 12:06 AM
2	Custody Battle Raises Questions About the Rights of Fathers I was asking why you thought what you thought and then then explained my alternate way of doing things. Unless you think I answered your opinion?	/r/MensRights	29/11/13 10:33 PM
2	Custody Battle Raises Questions About the Rights of Fathers Personally I think she should be allowed to travel, but forced to come back when she has the child. Still have a problem? But why? You could spin this in any direction and say that father has to be forced to move. Why not make custody work between the adults in their chosen homes instead of forcing adults to move around in ways that likely disrupt their life (job, university, homes, ect).	/r/MensRights	26/11/13 01:36 PM
2	The Problems of Women in Combat - Written by a female war vet I'm not even one tenth as dedicated as feminists are at "toxicity". I only have to think like this because feminists are what they are. I'm the result of their toxicity. I honestly think the MRM gives feminism too much credit. We have agency and are not just victims - we aren't just some counter to them imo...or at least we shouldn't be. If we want to be considered an indepedent movement worthy of recognition we have to stop basing everything of the feminismz or we risk not being taken seriously…	/r/MensRights	22/11/13 01:17 PM
1	The Problems of Women in Combat - Written by a female war vet Oh, as am I. I'm naked agitating for my interest group's rights and thusly feel men should truly experience what women have before. And those pesky straight people who have marriage rights. Let THEM not marry/adopt/have kids. Horray.... We could say that for plenty of things nowadays but we don't because it's petty and ridiculous. It's like the above parodying. Let men sit in burkas and drug all the British to pay them back for what they did to China. It's not equality - it's childish vengeance.…	/r/MensRights	22/11/13 02:23 AM
2	The Problems of Women in Combat - Written by a female war vet Of course they have. And women have died in warfare. Stay=at=home dads have had full custody before. Some husbands have won everything +more from divorce. Yet that doesn't stop this guy's extreme hyperbole and I was merely parodying it.	/r/MensRights	22/11/13 02:17 AM
3	The Problems of Women in Combat - Written by a female war vet Also, in middle eastern countries men must wear a burka and stay pure for the one woman who will have a small harem of husbands. Homeless people can sleep in your house while you sleep outside a shop! Let's also get all the British addicted to Chinese opium as payback for that little scandle! White people can finally be enslaved so THEY know what it feels like! Equality!!!!!!!!! /s Your logic doesn't really work.	/r/MensRights	21/11/13 05:01 PM
1	Dayquil ad: fathers are useless, can't brush a child's hair, only moms can take care of children In all fairness, she is sick in the advert. And it would be nice t have an ad breaking down the gender roles. This one doesn't really do it but we should have more ads showing men being more of a caregiver as opposed to the inept, cold money-making machine (which like I said, this advert fails in).	/r/MensRights	19/11/13 05:36 PM
2	'Rape porn' possession to be punished by three years in jail, David Cameron to announce And why is it only when women are being raped? What about men being raped I don't distinguish, personally. Rape of either shouldn't be on your phone or something. Problem is, how do you distinguish? The goverment isn't which is their fix. It isn't hard though to distiguish between BDSM porn and rape porn. BDSM, for one is consensual and you don't get as much crying/screaming/struggle. A lot of BDSM videos nowadays have a mini interview-y bit at the end where the actress states after the whole th…	/r/MensRights	19/11/13 09:25 AM
-2	'Rape porn' possession to be punished by three years in jail, David Cameron to announce And saying that possessing depictions of rape should be punishable because some people might have PTSD isn't a strawman? I'm not really sure where you got that from but it wasn't me. I personally think possessing depictions of rape not only makes you seem a bit suspicious but also having some questionable moral integrity. What reason would you have a legit rape scene in your possession for? I imagine it would be quite hard to find amongst all the simulated stuff. This is pretty horrible. Except …	/r/MensRights	18/11/13 10:08 PM
0	'Rape porn' possession to be punished by three years in jail, David Cameron to announce Why should someone go to jail or face any consequences for having videos of rape If you mean legit rape I think they should face a bit on consequence considering there is a lot of simulated stuff online they can view instead. I know the law doesn't differentiate but I can't tell if you think some one with a legit rape scene on their phone should just be regarded as normal when there's plenty of simulated porn instead. Rape is not a be all end all horrid crime. It is pretty horrible though. Not e…	/r/MensRights	18/11/13 09:37 PM
2	'Rape porn' possession to be punished by three years in jail, David Cameron to announce I don't think so since BDSM is heavily reliant on consent and safe-words It's the least rapey you can get actually. I think normal relationships could actually learn quite a bit from the BDSM community. Then again, government here likes to conveniently ignore snippets like this. I understand why they want to block rape porn (whether I agree or not) but if they banned BDSM along with it...pretty ridiculous. Considering BDSM is in the top 5 for any porn search things you find you'll have a lot of …	/r/MensRights	18/11/13 09:32 PM
1	Reclaiming the word Creep: A proposal to combat Misandry Feminism is a Marxist movement originally created by the Frankfurt School, as a way of covertly bringing about a Communist Revolution. Fair enough. You can disagree with me but in my observation it's more recent use as of yet (when you don't give credit to the loud radfems) has not been for promoting Communism but improving women's rights. Communism puts absolutely everyone on the same level so it would make sense that they would endorse feminism but that doesn't make it inherently bad. I don't …	/r/MensRights	18/11/13 09:22 PM
1	Reclaiming the word Creep: A proposal to combat Misandry must be pulled up by the roots I don't think we should pull up the roots that had women working in mutinitions factories (thereby both putting them in the labour force and allowing them to work) or the roots that gave them general human rights. The entirety of feminist ideology Is not purely based on what we know it as now.	/r/MensRights	18/11/13 01:29 PM
1	Reclaiming the word Creep: A proposal to combat Misandry While I understand where you are coming from, I have to disagree with your views. I think they can both coexist if we shove the radicals/extremists out of the way and let the more level-headed members combine to make an eglatarian movement. At the moment though we give far too much legibility and a sense of respect to radfems when we should just disregard them completely as crazies. In response the other side decides to stereotype this movement by its own more extremists members. This is what yo…	/r/MensRights	18/11/13 12:09 PM
3	Reclaiming the word Creep: A proposal to combat Misandry No, it's not, it's pretty bipartisan. Men on both Right and Left putting aside their differences to team up against Feminists. I was under the opinion it was to further the rights of men as opposed to just a feminist hate party.	/r/MensRights	17/11/13 02:39 PM
0	Reclaiming the word Creep: A proposal to combat Misandry Honestly, I'd rather ban divorce and make out-of-wedlock sex as shameful as it was a hundred years ago, but that's never going to happen. Getting rid of the anti-male feminist bullshit is just the least-bad option. You are aware the MRM is supposed to be a liberal, progressive human rights movement, yes? It's not conservative. Unless you are looking for a debate or something I don't think this is right sub for you.	/r/MensRights	17/11/13 01:25 PM
2	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. Saying the girls are the victim of their own crime would be like not charging a person with assault who instigated a fight, threw a punch, and then got their ass beat. Well it's more saying they punched themselves in the face and go to jail for assaulting themselves by taking CP of themselves and getting done for it. No, I would say 10-year-olds that are solicited to take photos, the parents should be punished for giving their children the ability to do that in the first place. What kind of pare…	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 05:04 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. SRSister I've never visited SRS. If you went through my posting history you would know you pulled Yet you offer no alternative for legal action against them. Copyright infringement? Out of your ass. I've offered copy right infringement and making laws against revengeporn/shit like this so boys don't get labelled as peados and get punishments too harsh for what they did. you're inherently irrational and illogical I don't have a very good example right here. Pot calling kettle black I see. so I pr…	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 04:30 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. That's where I got that from. You think what's wrong is the sharing of the photos and nothing else. And the boys are being charged as pedos, which you seem to support. I have no idea how you got that when 80% of my posts here finish with "I don't think it's fair they are labelled as paedophiles". You are now plucking things form the air that I've actually clarified I don't think. I can quote every response I've said that if you're too lazy to go through my posting history.	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 04:14 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. No not all CP laws. Just the law that states an under age person who takes a sexy picture of themselves is producing CP. People have been convicted of this in the past. I agree the person taking a picture shouldn't be charged with it as they are in the picture. So it's not really the case that the boys got charged because they "distributed". Since that's not how this law has worked in the past We have to think in the present and that is effectively why they got charged. If they didn't distribute…	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:33 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. Yet it does if a boy has sex though, doesnt it? 1) That's a separate discussion 2) I don't think guys should be spermjacked or be forced into paying for kids. I support financial abortions yet you and some others assume I do not - despite most of my posting history being on this board. Because it really really sounds like you want to make a special case because there are girls involved Nope. I'd say the same thing if boys had their pictures distributed by the girls while the boys kept the girls'…	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:29 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. It's more because they are IN the picture, thereby they are the victim of their own crime - it doesn't make much sense to punish them like that. However if that's the view you take then I suppose 10 year olds who are solicited to take pictures are also 'distributers' of it to peadophiles.	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:23 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. The boys distributed by sending their own pictures to the girls. They are not being punished for that - it's because it was spread around the school. If this is what you think is wrong and taking the picture of themselves is production and sending is distribution then yes I suppose both should be punished. Since the picture if of themselves though it doesn't make sense as the laws are meant to protect the person (the 'victim') in the picture. That's why the distribution is being applied when the…	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:21 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. It could easily be argued that tricking someone into conception and having a child falls under that category It does and I don't think that's right at all.	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:15 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. So you'd be okay with pedophiles soliciting children to produce and send them child pornography so long as the pedophiles didn't share that child pornography with anyone else? That's where you draw your line‽ Nope. I'm not sure where you got that from? The boys here are not paedos - they are malicious dicks but not paedos.	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:14 PM
1	Underage girls send naked pictures to underage boys. Guess who's arrested. But that is not what is going to happen here; the boys will be labeled "sex offenders" and both sets of children will have their lives ruined over this. Exactly and this is what isn't right. I don't think they should be "sex offenders" but by leaving it up to the school they might not get punished at all. There has to be a penalty but I think pinning them down as "paedos" is way too much.	/r/MensRights	16/11/13 03:12 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. California is often a bit ahead in these things. I can't remember exactly but when they were the only state trying to make their car efficiency at the same rate as Japan was 20 years ago they were sued and told to get back on everyone else's level. They are ahead in this game and hopefully others follow suit.	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 03:20 PM
-7	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. If you give someone something you have to live with the consequences of what they might do with it unless the girls had the boys sign some kind very specific end user agreement then they could seek a civil remedy. Without that, in Wallis vs Smith a man impregnated a woman because he thought she was on birth control. The court found that his sperm was a gift and did not care one iota that Smith used it in a way Wallis did not consent to. In fact no court ever anywhere has given a shit that a woma…	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 03:19 PM
0	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. I agree they should be sued for copyright violation as opposed to the CP charge but it probably has not been bought up for a reason by the prosecutor. Not sure what but there you go :/	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 03:14 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. There are laws against distributing child pornography though. Which law would you think would give the boys a lighter, more fair sentence?	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 03:08 PM
1	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. the insane cp law I don't think you actually meant to remove CP laws but just in case I'm going to clarify what you hope you meant (which I agree with) which is to remove the CP charge off the boys as opposed to remove the laws. create a law against spreading private material. I completely push for and agree with this. I have been saying this the whole time :P I don't think the girls should be punished because it wouldn't make sense under the law - it's meant to protect the person in the picture…	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 03:08 PM
0	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. It is very much a dick move but there are no laws against that kind of thing that I know of (there probably should be) This is what I'm saying. There are no laws against it but it is clearly wrong and they need to be punished - thus it ends up being CP. The argument that there should be laws is seperate but I do want people to keep it in mind that for boys and girls, men and women, there should be some sort of law against distributing pictures that were sent under a trust contract of not going t…	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 01:05 PM
3	Underage girls send naked pictures to underage boys. Guess who's arrested. The girls didn't send the pictures of underage boys around the school. If they did, then I would agree they should be charged. However as for the girls being distributers of the CP they wouldn't be punished because it simply wouldn't make sense. The laws are to protect the children - how can you protect the child in the photo if you chuck them in jail? Boys should not be charged with producing CP but they should be with sending it around. There should be seperate laws for this so it isn't under …	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 11:10 AM
2	Underage girls send naked pictures to underage boys. Guess who's arrested. If I am a professional photographer and take a picture of a river, if I send it to some one else is it automatically not my picture and all my copyright laws are immediatly reliquished? No. Of course not. That's silly. Even if I wasn't a pro photographer with copyright protecting it I STILL took that picture and it's still mine. Some one else can't say "you sent it to me - it's not yours anumore. It's mine". The boys shouldn't be punished for getting the pictures. That was a consentful act betwe…	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 11:07 AM
-6	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. The UNDERAGE boys are now charged with having the photos. They would not have been charged for just having the photos if they kept it to themselves - which was what the girls wanted and basically consented to. The are being charged because they were dickheads and shared it around the whole school - the photos have very likely gone online. The boys were not charged for sending the pictures of themselves either.	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 10:49 AM
-6	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. They've already been exposed to everyone around the school and had their trust violated. Their teachers might have even seen them. The pictures have likely gone viral online - possibly with their personal details. This could affect future job and relationship prospects. The girls have been punished enough. The boys have been punished TOO much but I think they should definitly face reprecussions for this.	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 10:48 AM
-6	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. Teenagers sending photos to each other should not be illegal I agree. However, them sending the pictures around the entire school (and it likely going on the internet) should be. It violates privacy, trust, and if their details are posted along wiht it it opens the door for alot of harrassement and perhaps problems for the rest of the girls' lives when it comes to their posisble employers finding them and being shamed publicly by family, judgemental friends, ect. It's not an issue that the boys …	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 10:47 AM
–	Teenage girls produce child porn, boys they share it with are arrested in massive police operation. No charges for the girls. Legally, the pictures are CP since the girls are under 18 in the pictures - hence why the prosecutor went for it. I think it's because we don't have laws against the whole 'revenge porn' or by exploiting some one's trust or privacy so the boys have to be pinned down with child porn. If we had the necessary measures in place to make distributing something the person did not consent to be distributed then the boys would be punished for that. I don't think this would have a long-ass sentence like C…	/r/MensRights	15/11/13 08:55 AM
1	Ontario barbers forced to learn women's styling techniques When someone with an infantile mindset is told "no", their first reaction is to freak out and start demanding compensation or change, regardless of whether or not they actually wanted the thing in the first place I disagree with the "infantile part" because if there are other hair dressers in the area this was not an accident. She would have known the barber didn't cater to women and knew he would thus turn her away as a customer. The rant was probably entirely rehearsed from the night before. N…	/r/MensRights	04/11/13 01:56 PM
3	Ontario barbers forced to learn women's styling techniques Oh wow. I didn't know this even happened (not Canadian). This should really be in the OP otherwise a lot of people (like me) are not going to make the connection between these two events. I still stand by the government are trying to squeeze as much as they can out of vunerables but that story is just bizarre...there must have been another hair dresser around for her to go to O.o	/r/MensRights	03/11/13 03:53 PM
7	Ontario barbers forced to learn women's styling techniques I don't think this is really feminism - it's the government trying to squeeze money out of people. I haven't heard any feminists campaigning for this shit but you can always see the government picking on the small guys (another example is teens with a teeny bit of weed filling prisons just because it's easier and gov makes more money). This isn't feminism basically. This is the vulnerable being picked apart for their savings by the top 1%. EDIT: Ah, just been told it is linked to feminism in a w…	/r/MensRights	03/11/13 02:12 PM
1	Is there a simple contract I can put together relinquishing any responsibility or financial support of an unwanted pregnancy should she choose to keep it? You can still get pregnant on birth control as well. SHe might be going off it for many reasons but I guess it's irrelevant since it wasn't mentioned. It has about the same chance as a condom at preventing pregnancy - just buy your own and keep them to make sure no holes are poked in them. Make sure they fit properly and don't drop off as well. Most condoms have spermicide on them but double check to make sure. If she has a latex allergy there's plenty of condoms without latex! There isn't anyth…	/r/MensRights	26/10/13 11:15 PM
1	Yep. Well form some one who has had these classes since I was 13, there was actually no self-defence involved. We learnt a couple of rape stats and were told to keep our phone with us, watch our drinks, only get into an ordered taxi from a legit company... Heard a few stories and were told how the girls could have avoided the situation and all that malarky. In all honesty I don't think any one of those classes helped. Problem is most rapists (like 98% of them) are people you know - not the stranger f…	/r/MensRights	24/10/13 12:05 PM
1	Loaded Questions: Deconstruction of a "rape" survey I guessed as much :) Sometimes when you are passionate about an issue it can take you a bit off focus and that's alright - thanks for your responses too. It was a nice, civil discussion and I'm glad we had it. Have a good day	/r/MensRights	19/10/13 09:34 PM
1	Loaded Questions: Deconstruction of a "rape" survey She calls refusing to perform cunnilingus without giving an excuse misogynistic bullshit She is. She is entitled to an opinion even though I do believe it is wrong in a lot of cases. Many men thing women with holding sex is a form of emotional/sexual abuse. That doesn't not make them the majority or doing anything wrong. She calls guys terrible for not liking cunnilingus This is an opinion. As said above, many other people hold similar views. This text Ms Filipovic has posted online for everyone…	/r/MensRights	19/10/13 07:19 PM
1	Loaded Questions: Deconstruction of a "rape" survey What do you mean by "using alcohol as a tool"? Do you mean they spike the other person's drinks without their knowledge or force them to drink alcohol? If yes, then in these cases having sex might be rape. If you mean they just offer them alcohol, then it isn't rape because there is no real manipulation; the other person chooses to drink and by this to alter what they want. I would like to answer this properly but as I said, the question in the survey is vague. I am not the maker - I can't say i…	/r/MensRights	19/10/13 08:54 AM
1	Loaded Questions: Deconstruction of a "rape" survey Half of all women isn't all women and it's silly to assume so - it's always better to just assume they don't want it unless they state they do because if you go ahead and that person doesn't like it then that's a 50% chance of you possibly getting into some legal trouble due to violating the person. It's just not a good risk to take. I would also say that they have not been raped unless it wasn't consensual. I'm assuming they mean they like having consensual sex with people they want to have sex…	/r/MensRights	19/10/13 08:33 AM
2	Loaded Questions: Deconstruction of a "rape" survey Many young people use alcohol to do things they don't want to do while sober. If those things happen to be sexual, is it the self-rape? How should we punish somebody who commits such a crime? I'm assuming this means things they WANT to do...in which case it isn't rape. But we aren't asking people who consider themselves victims, we are asking the perp.s who say they are making people do things they DON'T want to do but using alcohol as a tool. I get where you are coming from but it's a different…	/r/MensRights	18/10/13 10:42 PM
4	Loaded Questions: Deconstruction of a "rape" survey I don't think "arguing and pressuring victim" is something that shouldn't constitute as sex. Maybe the perp. didn't hold the victim down and physically force them but you can make some one do what you want by blackmailing them or threatening them into a position where they are scared to fight back because inevitably, the perp. is stronger and the victim will just get hurt more. Using "guilt" is shaky because it could be using blackmail or being "you don't love me if you don't have sex with me". …	/r/MensRights	18/10/13 09:21 PM
1	T-mobile censors all MRA websites. I'm not aware of Boost and Sprint - are these US companies or UK? I should really clarify I'm speaking from the UK. I can imagine there are some small mobile networks who probably don't have this issue...but from experience, the main ones (like 3 mobile, T-mobile, EE, O2, ect) always have that turned on and you need the contract holder who is over 18 to turn it off.	/r/MensRights	04/10/13 12:28 PM
1	T-mobile censors all MRA websites. You can't with any mobile network that's prepaid unless you turn it off. I had the same issue with Vodafone (thorugh Phones4U though) and Orange (it's EE now since it teamed up with T-mobile but w/e).	/r/MensRights	03/10/13 09:25 AM
1	Appalling article published in the Daily Mail's Sunday supplement, You magazine, whose target audience is female [NSFW] This breed of sexism on show is darker; more endemic and more troubling than before I did not interpret it the same way as you did - it sounded like she was saying eh sexism was of the same amount but what was in it was worse. But (as you said) that could also be paraphrased to it getting outright worse. The point of the article is that the increasingly poor behaviour of young female students is completely due to sexism and that that sexism is increasing in seriousness and scope. It isn't comple…	/r/MensRights	24/09/13 08:40 PM
1	Appalling article published in the Daily Mail's Sunday supplement, You magazine, whose target audience is female [NSFW] I wouldn't say it's increasing as much as you appear to mean - it's increasing by a little bit due to advances in technology and all but it's usually been like this. I imagine when women were first allowed into universities the sexist was much higher than it is now. The article hasn't really contradicted this from what I read. But just because something is decreasing doesn't mean it isn't a problem. Sexism is quite a big problem in universities (though mostly for the younger students...ie: like …	/r/MensRights	24/09/13 08:02 PM
1	Appalling article published in the Daily Mail's Sunday supplement, You magazine, whose target audience is female [NSFW] although, your comment did make me wonder how sexism could be significantly worse than when the author went to college given that female enrollment has been steadily climbing over that time period to the point that women are a significant majority Women are about 55/45 in the universities around me though I understand in some the gap is as big as 60/40. However, even being a majority doesn't prevent sexism form happening (to either gender). Women have always been a majority in the overall popula…	/r/MensRights	24/09/13 06:19 PM
1	Appalling article published in the Daily Mail's Sunday supplement, You magazine, whose target audience is female [NSFW] Hmm...I kind of see what you mean now. I do agree that some of these women dress a certain way and act a certain way because they find it fun and it's liberating for them. This is fair enough. It does say in the article that it's women acting like men (though it's really far towards the end in the part with pink questions). Peer pressure would probably play a role in at least some of the girls' dressing up but we don't really know how much. They didn't just mean men though - it says on page 66 t…	/r/MensRights	23/09/13 07:39 PM
0	Appalling article published in the Daily Mail's Sunday supplement, You magazine, whose target audience is female [NSFW] I'll probably get downvoted for this but...what's the men's rights issue? Is it the choice word "laddish-culture" or something else? Don't want to make an off-topic comment, see.	/r/MensRights	23/09/13 04:45 PM
1	Congratulations? (x-post from /r/WTF) Fair enough point but /u/johntheother says he's got a source for this. I wasn't trying to shift blame to anyone. Feminist define it as 1 in 4, which is considerably smaller than 100%. However they use a broad definition. I'm wary of that, and I'm wary of this statistic as well. But he says he's got a source so I'm going to look before I judge.	/r/MensRights	21/09/13 02:24 PM
14	Congratulations? (x-post from /r/WTF) Do you have the exact study showing this by any chance? Not refuting, just asking since my silly self can't find it :)	/r/MensRights	20/09/13 10:58 PM
1	Suck it up and pay My mistake. But my point still stands however. You should inform these guys that what they are doing is dangerous - as well as unintentionally poisoning and fucking with the girls' bodies they might end up (and not unjustifiably so) going to prison because of manslaughter or something similar. It's more imperative you do the above if it's more than one guy (as you have clarified).	/r/MensRights	20/09/13 10:52 PM
3	Suck it up and pay I agree with /r/TyrannyMcbane That is extremely dangerous - there is a reason it isn't supposed to be used as birth control but a last option. Their ignorance could cause a lot of damage for a number of women; you should really tell them to stop. If one of those ladies had hormone-sensitive health problems (not as rare as it seems, hence women have to get their BC prescribed by a doctor and not grab it off the shelf) their stupidity could kill them They guys could just double wrap or get a vasec…	/r/MensRights	20/09/13 09:35 PM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife It doesn't matter if it's formal or not, that wasn't the argument; plus it's correct. -and why does someone who doesn't care about vote count downvote? I haven't had the net for about four days so it would not have been me downvoting. And I said "formal definition" in my first reply so it was, indeed, the argument. Whoa whoa, are you actually saying women have no agency? I'm sure that's not what you meant. No. I'm saying they are not supporting women due to the belief of them having no agency, t…	/r/MensRights	18/09/13 03:18 PM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife I wasn't aware Urban Dictionary was a "formal" dictionary. That's white knighting, he's sees a damsel in distress and is acting on the belief he can help and might think he will get something out of it. Then again support can mean many different things. How is he supporting her? If he's helping her then it's WK, if he just says "that sucks" then no he's being a friend. He might not want anything out of it. He might recognize it's a really shitty thing to do to some one - when we stand up for a g…	/r/MensRights	14/09/13 04:20 PM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife I feel as if you didn't read my post. You ignored it all and starting comparing whiteknighitng (being overlyprotective of a woman) to murder (don't think you need to be told what murder is). If you need to be told what white knighting is, you're in the wrong place I specifically said I was going to go by general definition since you refused to give one. Some people consider whiteknighitng different things. You also did not say whether you agreed with any of my examples of whiteknighting being go…	/r/MensRights	14/09/13 02:12 PM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife Sometimes whiteknighting isn't really whiteknighting because it's common decency (you haven't defined it so I'm going to go by common definition). A man who supports a woman trying to get her picture of a revenge porn site isn't really whiteknighting - he's being a good person. Standing up for people who can't is a good thing to do. Saying stat rape with female victims and male aggressors several times their age is a bad thing and going against slut-shaming might just be their viewpoint - freedo…	/r/MensRights	14/09/13 11:46 AM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife Which ridiculous notions and what kind of white knighting? Are we talking offline or online? As I said, I want to understand where you are coming from here.	/r/MensRights	14/09/13 11:26 AM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife I am beginning to see where you are coming from here. I myself would have thought women are at a 7 or an 8 but we will go by your set of numbers. What would knock them down to a 9 or an 8? I'm interested to hear thoughts on this (again, I'm genuine here, not passive-aggro). I myself would prefer to try get men to a 10 and be equal with the other 10s. While I agree it can be hard to appeal to people who seem to have it all but slavery and such had to go through the same issues. Most good movement…	/r/MensRights	14/09/13 10:54 AM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife You're twisting my comment to make it mean what you want it to mean. If that's your bag then fine. However my point remains valid, until certain groups of people fully understand how bad it is at the bottom nothing will change, nothing. Please point out where I am twisting - and I mean that in a genuine way, not passive-agressively because I am honesty seeing it the same way I am saying it. You've taken it to an extreme I never meant and then you attempt to cram these words in to my mouth. That'…	/r/MensRights	13/09/13 07:54 PM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife He's not denying the suffering of women. I know he hasn't - he is saying people ignore men's suffering (which is true) and things will not get better until women suffer the same as men. He's not doing that. He is stating that society denies the suffering of men. But when women suffer, suddenly society cares. Which is true. But (from what I understand about the whole 'walk a mile in our shoes' quote) he is saying women need to suffer the same as men before things change. You're not disagreeing wi…	/r/MensRights	13/09/13 07:47 PM
1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife Things won't get better for men until the get worse for women. That can be seen as anti-women for multiple viewpoints, whether he intended it or not. The solution to gynocentrism is then not to deny the suffering of women, but to began making people understand the suffering of men. Crimson_D82 If we use the logic of /u/Crimson_D82 , we should respond to this by continuing to ignore men while beginning to ignore the suffering of women so we all become equal. How I see it is that we don't deny any…	/r/MensRights	13/09/13 12:24 PM
0	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife But techinically they already have - for centuries. Since the 1800s things have been improving to the point where men need to catch up. That's like saying we should restrict men's freedoms for centuries before they get any rights because they haven't really walked a mile in women's shoes. It's just silly. I don't think I misunderstood your comment judging by your reply - women should suffer like men in order for things to be equal. Let's say we apply this to rape. Instead of campainging that men…	/r/MensRights	13/09/13 12:20 PM
-1	Divorced woman seeking $93,809 per month in spousal support... from her ex-wife Things won't get better for men until the get worse for women. The MRM board is not supposed to be anti-women and this is a silly route to equality. How about making things better for men instead of trying to screw everyone over? It's a lot more positive and the movement catches enough flack as it is for being women-haters when we are supposed to be furthering the rights of men, not trying to oppress women so we are all in the same leaky, shitty little boat. EDIT: I'm not sure if my message abov…	/r/MensRights	12/09/13 06:43 PM
1	I'm sick and tired of this Child Support BS I'm assuming the child custody isn't 50/50 so it is because mum's house is where the child lives for the majority of the time. That's their home. Dad has visitation rights/less custody therefore mum's home is where the child technically lives. Mum paying for dad would be pointless as the majority of the time the child isn't actually living there. I don't understand what the situation here is though - I'd assume if he's paying a lot then he has the child only for weekends or something...OP would …	/r/MensRights	12/09/13 05:45 PM
0	I'm sick and tired of this Child Support BS It should...the child needs somewhere to live. CS isn't for decking them out in designer gear and a new playstation (though it can be used for that). It's supposed to go towards the child's wellbeing - one of those it them needing shelter. CS should not go towards your car or anything, but rent, food, schooling, ect counts towards things the child needs. CS should be monitored by the authorities to make sure the child's needs are covered...not by the fathers/mothers paying for the loopholes ment…	/r/MensRights	12/09/13 07:56 AM
1	I'm sick and tired of this Child Support BS I don't think the men should be able to - I think the judges and the court system should. There might be shitty parents who try to do things to "buy" the child's lose or not spend it properly or spend it on something the child has to give to them. Not saying OP is doing this, but there are loopholes in this. Instead, have it regulated in the court system which decided how much money she would actually get.	/r/MensRights	11/09/13 10:39 PM
4	The rationale behind /r/creepypms : Validation and yet you feel more attractive. The only problem with this statement is that you seem to be thinking everyone else would react the same way as you do. Other men and women may not feel more attractive, just intimidated.	/r/MensRights	11/09/13 08:28 PM
7	The rationale behind /r/creepypms : Validation It's common behavior for young women to "complain" about attention from boys, because "complaining" about it is tolerated, while admitting that you enjoy the attention makes other girls treat you as "easy". It's a bit dangerous to generalise here as for one, you are not a woman and second, this isn't the case with all things. Sometimes it is whats called a "humble brag" and follows what you said but other times, it is a legitimate complaint made among people who can sympathise/empathise with the…	/r/MensRights	11/09/13 08:20 PM
1	Subjecting women and men to same UK Police Fitness Test is 'sexist' Well, this is what is supposed to happen already but it clearly isn't being very well enforced :/ Otherwise, I'd agree completely.	/r/MensRights	10/09/13 10:46 PM
1	Subjecting women and men to same UK Police Fitness Test is 'sexist' So what you're saying is that there if absolutely no doubt in your mind that exactly 0% of the women present in any way were looking at the strong, athletic men who were performing the test? There's no chance that any of the women present were looking at any of the men on that course? Nope. But it hasn't been bought up in the article and we cannot pluck information out of thin air. If these men are facing sexist comments and oogling they should absolutely ask for changes so they don't feel uncom…	/r/MensRights	10/09/13 03:30 PM
2	Breaks the law; calls it victim blaming Perhaps he should act like an adult and not have sex with women he doesn't even know who are black out drunk and unconscious. No, that would be the grown up thing to do. For one, both men and women can get raped or rape themselves. Also, I don't know how it wouldn't be common sense not to have sex with people who have blacked out. They should not have blacked out - it's true, but first time drinkers don't know their limits and "buddies" can often end up leaving them behind.	/r/MensRights	10/09/13 03:23 PM
-2	Subjecting women and men to same UK Police Fitness Test is 'sexist' So what exactly is the cause we are cutting? So we should allow the men to belittle and humiliate the women while they are preforming the test in their career just because maybe it'll happen on the streets if we don't let them in the examination? I don't see how we can tell what will happen. If it was going to happen in the streets then it would have already happened. I'm not seeing a proposed solution.	/r/MensRights	09/09/13 10:01 PM
2	Breaks the law; calls it victim blaming If it was he who was raped, he should be taking it to court. Not being able to prove you didn't say yes is an utterly ridiculous argument as you can't prove she didn't say "no" either. She could have been fighting and kicking and screaming or w/e - we have absolutely no idea since we weren't there and can't pluck information from thin air. If she was "that drunk" she can't actually consent anyway and the "yes" is meaningless (as it is in multiple legal situations such as the example form earlier…	/r/MensRights	09/09/13 09:58 PM
1	Subjecting women and men to same UK Police Fitness Test is 'sexist' They said having women be wolf-whistled while their bits jiggled around doing excersises was sexist. Not the fact they couldn't compete on equal grounds. That was branded as "unrealistic".	/r/MensRights	09/09/13 06:24 PM
-3	Subjecting women and men to same UK Police Fitness Test is 'sexist' They aren't saying the test itself is bad, they said He alleged that the whole environment in which the test was conducted was sexist. "When I've seen this test being applied, it is a little bit like a very sexist meat market," said Professor Jackson. "Lots of male officers gather round while the female recruits bounce and jiggle and run around, and they're wolf whistling and clapping - it's quite a sexist environment. "Maybe get rid of it and go for something more like exam conditions, where fe…	/r/MensRights	09/09/13 06:22 PM
2	Breaks the law; calls it victim blaming If you punch some one in the face while drunk, you still physically assaulted them via punching. It's not just her who needs to take responsibility - rapists are not suddenly free from criticism because the victim was drunk/drinking. You can't consent to sex while drunk just as you cannot change your will, for instance.	/r/MensRights	09/09/13 03:47 PM
1	The bathrooms at my office. The women's door has a keypad lock that does in fact lock. The men's door does not even lock from the inside. (sorry about quality) Lol. I'm guessing there aren't any "guest" unisex toilets in the reception or anything for OP then XD	/r/MensRights	07/09/13 04:51 PM
3	Xpost from Wtf. Atleast she is being charged, but still not called rape. Except this is a men's rights issue, not a women's. People here always say feminism doesn't cover men's rights - and aside from the little things, it doesn't. It's for women's rights. This is what we are here for. This is our job.	/r/MensRights	07/09/13 11:08 AM
1	Xpost from Wtf. Atleast she is being charged, but still not called rape. They did in an article about the 50year old man and 14 year old girl. They called it an "affair". On the other side of the fence people where pretty mad.	/r/MensRights	07/09/13 11:06 AM
3	Xpost from Wtf. Atleast she is being charged, but still not called rape. THe article talking about the 50yo man and 14yo girls also said "affair" instead of "rape".	/r/MensRights	07/09/13 11:05 AM
3	Xpost from Wtf. Atleast she is being charged, but still not called rape. Exactly. Being attracted to 13 year old girls isn't natural either so why would being attracted to 13 year old boys be? She did say she isn't acting on it and wasn't advocating its normalcy.	/r/MensRights	07/09/13 11:03 AM
0	The bathrooms at my office. The women's door has a keypad lock that does in fact lock. The men's door does not even lock from the inside. (sorry about quality) I'm not seeing how.	/r/MensRights	07/09/13 10:45 AM
1	The bathrooms at my office. The women's door has a keypad lock that does in fact lock. The men's door does not even lock from the inside. (sorry about quality) It said before that the company didn't receive enough complaints to put a lock on the men's door (they are being stingy). The right solution would be to start filing complaints or get permission to put in the lock yourself as opposed to vandalising something that was clearly put there for a reason (people wouldn't complain if it was uneventful). The double standard has already been shown. Being bitter and vengeful about it doesn't exactly prove anything other than not being able to solve the iss…	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 08:36 PM
1	The bathrooms at my office. The women's door has a keypad lock that does in fact lock. The men's door does not even lock from the inside. (sorry about quality) How is this a good solution? Just put a lock on the men's door for christsakes. Don't make things worse for everyone else so you feel better - make things better for you. This attitude of screwing everyone over is really silly.	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 08:03 PM
1	Feminist indoctrination course in the Air Force I wouldn't approach all ladders skeptically. That's kind of silly - and crimes are not ladders where you injure yourself investigating (usually). It's only slightly bigger than the "only 8%" number which everyone deemed as far too small. Saying 10% of ladders sounds silly since we are talking about PEOPLE. This 10% of accused are innocent with a possibility of being convicted (we do not know how many falsely accused are convicted, only if they were falsely accused or not) - this is enough to tak…	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 02:49 PM
1	Feminist indoctrination course in the Air Force According to the FBI, it's 10%.	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 08:11 AM
1	Bad sex is not rape. As far as the fight or flight situation goes, it's my opinion that the only way to be prepared for that is to become accustomed to it. It's the adrenaline, it kicks your body and mind into high gear and tells you to do one of three things - fight, flee, or freeze. Once you're accustomed to adrenaline though you can reap the benefits of it while still maintaining a clear mind. I have a history of engaging in behavior that results in an adrenaline rush so I'm personally quite used to it, but I can…	/r/MensRights	05/09/13 08:42 AM
1	Bad sex is not rape. I'm not sure how this links in the "desire" to have sex. I'm not sure why you'd consent if you didn't want it due to having a headache/tired/ill. Consent is for when you want sex - that's what it assumes. However I imagine that is a common situation in the misuse of it. I guess here the unwanted sex isn't rape due to the consent - however giving consent implies you did want it. So here it's a bit of a semantics things I guess.	/r/MensRights	05/09/13 01:08 AM
1	Bad sex is not rape. I'm pretty sure "want" and "desire" would be pretty much synoms of each other. Sex you don't want is rape. That's why there is consent. So you give the consent when you want sex and you don't when you don't want sex. Otherwise it's rape. I'm not sure what you mean by "consent isn't the same thing as desire".	/r/MensRights	05/09/13 12:53 AM
1	Bad sex is not rape. I'm not convicting anyone. I don't nee verification of whether or not is was a crime to protect him since he'll be fine. He himself knew his intentions EDIT: I got a touch to personal on why here. I'm not comfortable enough to really say so, lol. It's rather funny as I said I wasn't reporting yet it's like you're trying to convince me not to and I wasn't clear enough with him...I don't mind what it would be called legally since I'm not taking it to court and I've already been told all that. Than…	/r/MensRights	05/09/13 12:12 AM
1	Bad sex is not rape. When people are in a traumatic situation, they often end up freezing and are not able to do anything about it. I was in a similar situation however I didn't report it (despite having the stat rape on my side). You might say no as in "I'm scared" as I did and told to stfu and "don't move off" in reply. Your brain isn't acting rationally when you are afraid and while people prepare you for if you're in "fight or flight", no one advises you on what to do when your body is tensed up and won't respon…	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 09:52 PM
1	Bad sex is not rape. So, while I may have worded it poorly, I'm talking about cases where there was a clear case of coercion and manipulation, versus cases where the minor gave... um... let's say, "enthusiastic consent." This depends on the age of the teacher. If we are talking about a 17yo and a young, 19-21yo teacher, then maybe the student was the active party. However this argument will not work for a 14yo and a 49yo. No 14yo is as mature as someone double their age. You can't say a child "enticed" or "manipulat…	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 09:45 PM
1	Bad sex is not rape. BDSM isn't rape - that's ridiculous. In fact, those in the BDSM community are probably the best examples of consentful sex because they are generally very careful about it - they go through soft limits, hard limits, what's ok and what is enjoyable. Consent to this all is discussed and given. If the consent isn't present of is being withdrawn, there's a safe word or gesture that stops whatever is going on because it is too much or because it's too painful. Some people use the traffic light method…	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 09:41 PM
1	Bad sex is not rape. "any sex I didn't actually want/like" as rape Sex you do not want is rape. That's what it is. When you don't want/didn't consent to sex. Sex you don't like isn't rape however since you consented to it - it just wasn't up to par. You bought a ticket for the ride...you can't refund it because it was disappointing.	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 09:36 PM
1	This poster is up in my dorm at UMD. This is kind of ridiculous... "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - it could have made for an interesting discussion to not ban the post and actually debate it.	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 10:27 AM
2	Teacher [M] gets 30 days jail time for affair with 14 year old student [F]. Thoughts? How is that judge "pretty cool"?	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 12:38 AM
2	Teacher [M] gets 30 days jail time for affair with 14 year old student [F]. Thoughts? Do you think her parents enforced her to have sex underage? Tracking wouldn't help either. The girl would show up as being in school when she was supposed to - what she is doing would be unknown. Parents also have a tendency to get overprotective and might exploit this. Very evil parents may exploit this to prostitute their child. It isn't workable IRL because unfortunately not many people are actually reasonable. I'm glad you agree this particular man should have a long sentence.	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 12:37 AM
2	no say in abortion This is why birth control / condoms / diaphragms / etc are so important None of these are 100% effective.	/r/MensRights	01/09/13 02:43 PM
1	no say in abortion You're almost implying protection works 100% of the time.	/r/MensRights	01/09/13 02:37 PM
1	I'm surfing through local apartments/rooms for rent in Orange county and these listings are sexist as hell. That is their choice - the person that is living in the flat might have been a long-time resident therefore they'd lose out on what was a very stable income for a new stranger who may not be there for that long. They don't mind missing out on your rent as they've shown.	/r/MensRights	01/09/13 02:23 PM
3	Outraged Montanans move to oust judge who jailed rapist for 30 days The that is what we should campaign for. There are some female rapists who get far too light sentences and male rapists who get far too light sentences. It does happen more often to the female rapists however and this kind of thing needs to change. Rallies, petitions, and keeping it in the public spotlight are the only things we can really do for those - talking about it is good but judges will probably not read the MRM board :/	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 03:51 PM
6	Outraged Montanans move to oust judge who jailed rapist for 30 days I was trying to push this idea in this MRM thread from yesterday/two days ago! I fully agree with you/ Female stat rapists should be severely punished and both female and male victims should be given respect due for what happened to them.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 03:39 PM
2	CNN guest jokes Chelsea Manning will get ‘good practice’ being a woman in prison [xpost /r/ainbow] No one talks about female prisoners. At least not where I am. It's just about the male ones and you've got one side shouting some belittling comedy and the other telling them to shut up up. You can imagine which side is bigger though...but there isn't any mention of the female prisons.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 03:29 PM
3	Feminists at a conference whip up terror and hysteria about "online harassment" being so horrific that a woman in the audience bursts into tears at the mere prospect of being "attacked" online at some indeterminate point in the future. Well this woman is clearly some one who is a bit on edge about this particular thing. The issue is the damage to your pysh due to the amount of berating you'd get. It can make you feel pretty down after a while and helpless to stop it. We can't pick and choose what people are afraid of and this is just this particular woman's fear. I do think it's not very good for her to be so nervous all the time over posting things online though and she should seek some sort of help for it.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 11:46 AM
6	Feminists at a conference whip up terror and hysteria about "online harassment" being so horrific that a woman in the audience bursts into tears at the mere prospect of being "attacked" online at some indeterminate point in the future. I agree. In all honesty maybe she should go see a counsellor or something to try calm her down or maybe just lurk instead of posting things on the net.....it's a bit much to be this scared of something that may or may not happen.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 11:28 AM
7	Feminists at a conference whip up terror and hysteria about "online harassment" being so horrific that a woman in the audience bursts into tears at the mere prospect of being "attacked" online at some indeterminate point in the future. That is actually very true. She said she hadn't been harassed before. Then it's just being very paranoid and thin skinned by letting the stories she reads get to her head. I'd say I'm not sure why she'd be so paranoid but it's likely stories about it happening she's read online... Being "terrified every time [she] posts something online" is incredibly OTT and the crying kind of says the same. It's a bit of a weird situation....	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 11:01 AM
1	Article about ADD comes with concrete suggestions about how to make primary schools more boy friendly: Longer recess, more gym class, bring back shop. I honestly think single sex schools are the way to go for this. There should be mixed, obviously, but it can only benefit both genders. Boys' secondary schools cater to having 30 minute periods because it's been shown here that this is the average optimum attention span that can be achieved from boys. For girls here in the UK, it's 45 minute periods because similarly to boys, it caters to their best average attention span thus everyone can get the most out of a lesson. Boys are shown not to diff…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 02:36 AM
1	Article about ADD comes with concrete suggestions about how to make primary schools more boy friendly: Longer recess, more gym class, bring back shop. I personally believe the new children's TV has a part to play. When my English teacher was a child she watched children shows that required concentration for most of the program and follow-along french words. Now, the TV shows are all very...well, they encourage a low attention span. Every 10 minutes the plot of whatever is going on is dropped in favour of a dance or song. Different things are done in each small segment to cover everything from fingerpainting to story time to puppets arguing. An…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 02:31 AM
1	Naval Academy Rape? Unrelated to this case but when drugged/drunk you can pass in and out of consciousness and therefore remember what was going on. In some casus of drugs and a bit in drink you are actually very aware but lack any means to convey resistance. This argument doesn't work for a sizeable chunk of drug rapes and some drunk rapes. In this particular case though, it's all a bit of a mess. It doesn't sound like she was bothered about anything until the facebook posts. My only thought is that if these peopl…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 02:25 AM
1	I'm surfing through local apartments/rooms for rent in Orange county and these listings are sexist as hell. It depends on their reasoning - if it is because the current apartments are already only occupied by women it might be a preference thing. It would be awkward for both you and them. The flatowner could lose out on rent if the current occupants feel uncomfortable with and and might move out because of it. That's understandable. However if it is because of some misconception based on a women being cleaner than a male or something it's sexist and pretty insulting to both genders. If you are going t…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 02:21 AM
-6	Feminists at a conference whip up terror and hysteria about "online harassment" being so horrific that a woman in the audience bursts into tears at the mere prospect of being "attacked" online at some indeterminate point in the future. Not entirely sure why you've been downvoted. This is a pretty reasonable alternate perspective I thought.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 02:12 AM
1	What's the best, most effective way forward for men's activism? You are correct. Being rude will not affect anything the the bigger picture of Men's Rights....	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 01:43 AM
2	What's the best, most effective way forward for men's activism? All of what you said and more! There's fundraising, setting up men's shelters, setting up separate awareness-raising marches/walks, making local community events, handing out flyers, making petitions, rallies...once you have something set up try get an article about it in the media - even if it's just your local area's magazine/newspaper. Document what has the most success and run with it. There's a lot you can do when you put your mind to it! It requires organisation and a strong will - no move…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 01:41 AM
1	Campus Police offer rape prevention class for women only? In my rape preventation classes (there have been multiples since I hit 14) we didn't actually do any self defense...some people talked at us about how to avoid being raped (no short skirts, ect) which is all well and good but focuses a touch too much on the strange men jumping out of the bushes to rape you as opposed to the significantly most common perputator of rape which is some one you know. Self defense classes would have a broader range of help.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 01:33 AM
1	"That is off topic we are not discussing mens issues" I do not see this as something that would work very often, personally...imo it's too hostile and people will try shut down the topic and argue instead of discussing it as they would with previous topics. If you are just trying to rile them up then it works. If you want them to accept the idea and end up discussing it themselves (thus raising awareness a little) then I really can't see that working.	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 01:30 AM
1	"That is off topic we are not discussing mens issues" In one way I agree because if you are discussing male rape in prisons or men's child custody it isn't the appropriate time to bring up female rape in prisons or something similar because you are talking about something only in relation to men - it can feel like derailment to suddenly switch to talking about women when yo were trying to have a meaningful conversation on male rape and men in divorce and men not having enough facilities for something. It's the same when you gender swap to women. On…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 01:26 AM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide No So can a girl in the same situation consent? but the courts, media, feminists and society at large certainly seems to think so. Then you work to prove them wrong and change things. If a person is hurt enough they will seek revenge. So far, the MRM, as a generalisation, have kept to their higher nature and want to heal our damaged society. While feelings do matter, they cannot interfere to the point where you begin to become a bit more extremist, imo. I do not want to maintain a movement that …	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 01:03 AM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Intellectually they both can give consent, except adults have decided they will believe boys can consent and girls cannot. I honestly believe that the age gap and the power dynamics are too extreme - if this girl is in the small minority of teenagers that are mentally adult then this is given. However most of the time this isn't the case. If the victim was a boy I'd be saying the same thing to all these people who would now be saying boys can't get raped. This thread shred some rather dark views…	/r/MensRights	30/08/13 12:16 AM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide It's all we have. Too many on your sides stand against it, Hold up a minute. On my side? Which side is this exactly? so you deserve this. But the girl who killed herself doesn't. If your views are based of being bitter and lashing out then I honestly don't think this board is a good place for you...it's for positively helping men where their rights are lacking. You deserve to shout in impotent rage, because that's what you make us do. I don't see how standing up for a child who was raped should …	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 05:46 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide And all we've asked is for women to be held to the same legal standard, a fact that you basically went apeshit over. I'm going "apeshit" over the fact that instead of trying to take male rape seriously we are just going to make light of a female rape that ended in suicide. So until women are held to the standard that men currently are, we will hold men to the same standard women currently are Again, I'm inferring that instead of achieving equality through making things better for male victims we…	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 05:22 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide You seem willing to judge a boy's as less traumatic, Did I? Please, do go quote me on this belief I wasn't aware I had. so why don't we have that right? Because it's as bad as the people who think male victims shouldn't be taken seriously - that it's just opportunistic sex for them. You are entitled to your opinion but I am entitled to to disagree because personally, I think all children - boys or girls - should be protected. Clearly we disagree on that.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 05:20 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide And yes, it is related. You asked what the point is Not only was the point unrelated but it was bad. You don't get to decide that it doesn't matter because you don't like the answer, you asked for the damned answer Excuse me, I didn't realise I'm not allowed to have an opinion that girls and boys are equally affected by stat rape and the prosecutors of both should be punished. You don't get to decide if a stat rape victim's experience was more traumatic than a "rape rape" victim's because that i…	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 05:18 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide I think the AOC makes sense as being higher than the age of 13 (at least in the US/UK). I believe this because: 1) The average life span is not 40 years anymore (like before the 1880s). Having children at such a young age isn't as reasonable of an idea anymore because we live a lot longer than before. 2) If we base the AOC off puberty and when a woman is at the best age for child-bearing, the AOC would be 18-21(or 23, however I trust the NHS more). At a young age such as 13, both the mother and …	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 03:39 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide he morality of the age of consent is not so simple as the troll originally suggested. We don't have to bang up someone who has sex with a 15 year and 364 day old person and rejoice if they have sex the following day. The matter is not so simple. I don't think he's a troll but that's aside your point. I do think 15 year olds having sex with 15 year olds shouldn't go to jail for it. However I see a difference between this and having sex with a 50 year old authority figure. It isn't simple but that…	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 03:26 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide I did see the google and I would have thought you would have directly linked the medical study as opposed to a google that doesn't actually have the original study. I'll admit I'm wrong on it (despite not having actually seen the study, however the articles that discuss it do seem reputable) but you are still not going after my main argument.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 03:17 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Thanks for the link but this is the basic Tumblr argument. "Do my research for my arguments first!!! Don't ask me my own views cuz google" Clearly you are incapable of having a discussion without personal attacks and flimsy derails so we'll leave it at that.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 03:07 PM
3	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide All you have said is that matters are not so simple because AOC in Spain is 13. Unless you have misread the article and believe the incident in the article happen in Spain, their AOC is irrelevant. I asked for an explanation as to how but instead of being a mature, reasonable adult you have instead given a condescending, snide remark about how I write. Either respond with a refute or leave the childish remarks to yourself.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 03:01 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Source? I wasn't aware of this. I'd heard that puberty was going faster but not that it was getting younger. I will admit if I am wrong on that. However, that wasn't my main point and I still stand by my other arguments you have not refuted yet.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 02:57 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide In the 1880s, the life span was also just 40 years as opposed to being in the 70-80 rage. However, age of consent makes sense as being higher (but not too high like 20 when women are actually at their most apt and fertile age due to teenage hormones) not because women are "fragile" creatures but because biologically it also makes sense. At 15 (and especially under) the chances of pregnancy going wrong are much higher such as (but not only): miscarriages, death, post-natal depression, foetal prob…	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 02:55 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Having sex too early with some one your own age is not the same thing as having sex with your 50 year old teacher. Feigning ignorance is not a means of argument. Do you have a source for the "shitload" of teenagers losing it that early? They certainly exist but you make it sound very extreme.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 02:53 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide In the 1880s, the life span was also 40 years. Puberty for girls has always been a variable depending on the girl at does start at 10-12. It didn't start at 15 back then - 15 was just the age they decided the girl went through puberty enough to have babies. However, age of consent makes sense as being higher (but not too high like 20 when women are actually at their most apt and fertile age due to teenage hormones) not because women are "fragile" creatures but because biologically it also makes …	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 02:51 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide I'm not seeing your point. It is pretty simple. 14 year old underage is raped and commits suicide during the trail of her 50 year old teacher who committed the act. Somehow, the AOC in Spain is relevant. I'm not seeing how - explain?	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 02:43 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Except that's all based on feelings. You've provided no concrete, solid evidence. I'm sure parents of children who fell victim to pedophiles didn't set their child's AOC at 10. Parents generally believe AOC should be 16-18 just like the law. Comparing sex to signing their kid up for sports or medical care is downright ridiculous. Parents can't be there 24/7 to make sure their kid isn't engaging in sexual relations.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 02:41 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide 14 year olds are biologically at greater risk than some one who is 18 if they become pregnant - they are at higher risk of miscarriages, death in delivery, problems with the foetus, and post-natal/regular depression. Their body is not sexually mature. Mentally wis,e it's ridiculous to claim 50 year olds and 14 year olds of any gender can be on the same level maturity wise - especially in sexual relations. What would your argument be based on that 14 year olds and 50 year olds of any gender can c…	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 12:33 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide This is different than two 14 year olds getting active a bit too early. This is a 50 year old who groomed a child and had sex with them. That can really cause some turmoil for a kid. Almost as bad as if the parent went ahead and had sex with their child - the power dynamics and maturity levels are completely off. A 14 year old is not as sexually mature as an 18 year old. If they are going to go ahead and start early it should not be with a teacher. A 14 year old cannot give consent.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 12:30 PM
3	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide So that means it doesn't matter if 14 year old girls get raped...because they aren't boys? So for there to be equality let's not try get boys taken seriously...lets just let 14 year old girls get raped by their teachers. After all, it's not like they are boys and can get sued for child support. /s (The child support thing isn't even related because the girl was not actually pregnant). What a strange route to go down to achieve equality.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 12:29 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Exactly.	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 12:25 PM
1	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide Do you think they can consent? If you think 14 year old boys can't consent then neither can 14 year old girls. Trying to make it ok for all 14 year olds to have a relationship with 50 year old teachers is a quite a horrific route to go down to achieve "equality".	/r/MensRights	29/08/13 12:25 PM
0	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide 14 year olds are not mature enough for their age to have sex with 50 year old men who are their teachers.	/r/MensRights	28/08/13 10:13 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide So that makes it right?	/r/MensRights	28/08/13 10:03 PM
2	Former teacher in Montana gets 30 days in jail for raping student who later committed suicide A 14 year old can not give consent. As a 14 year old, no matter how "willing" I was, I was immature and would have been pretty traumatised if something like this happened to me (surprise, surprise...most kids this happens to is traumatising for them - as proven by this girl killing themselves). What would you say if this was a male student and this was a woman-behaving-badly post? Point out the unjust laws? Say how she should be given more time? Who are you to decide how traumatic some one's rap…	/r/MensRights	28/08/13 10:00 PM
1	Dr Phil under attack for 'misogynist tweet' which merely contained the question "Is it ok to have sex with a drunk woman?" I'm sure she can fight her own battles, "white knight".	/r/MensRights	27/08/13 12:16 AM
1	Dr Phil under attack for 'misogynist tweet' which merely contained the question "Is it ok to have sex with a drunk woman?" All I'm reading is a lot of emotion. I think you need to grow up and realise 16 year olds are not staying at home. That's the problem. They aren't and they are the bulk of the drunk mistakes. It is naive and ignorant to think it's the adults. But whatever. I'm not seeing the point if you're only making personal jabs and refusing to open your eyes. Forget I said anything if you aren't up for a mature discussion.	/r/MensRights	26/08/13 12:14 AM
0	Dr Phil under attack for 'misogynist tweet' which merely contained the question "Is it ok to have sex with a drunk woman?" You said "every woman you know" as if women who might not enjoy drunk sex are in a small minority that you don't come accross. You cannot find out your limits if you never drink - while it is smarter ot figure this out only with close friends, we are talking about 18 year olds (who are only just adults) or younger. They are not really adults and are pretty naive. From some one old enough to publicly consume alcohol they should learn their limits in a responsible manner. If they have never drunk …	/r/MensRights	25/08/13 11:23 PM
1	Dr Phil under attack for 'misogynist tweet' which merely contained the question "Is it ok to have sex with a drunk woman?" You do not speak for all women actually. A lot of the girls who pass out from drinking are new to it and don't actually know their limits. Good for you that you do know yours and you have your values, but that is a very narrow viewpoint.	/r/MensRights	25/08/13 07:06 PM
2	I have to do an Alcohol Training course for college and this question is confusing me Nowaways female binge drinking is rocketing (mainly because they try to "beat" men...which is a pretty bad idea given their biology). Again I think is question is meant objectively and comparatively as opposed to sociologically.	/r/MensRights	24/08/13 03:40 PM
4	I have to do an Alcohol Training course for college and this question is confusing me 3 is true because women have lower tolerance for alcohol. I think this is looking at the issues objectively rather than in a sociological way.	/r/MensRights	23/08/13 10:22 PM
1	I have to do an Alcohol Training course for college and this question is confusing me You tick all that apply...not just one.	/r/MensRights	23/08/13 10:21 PM
1	Girls get 61% of A* marks at GCSE. No one seems to comment on the disparity. Well the GCSE exams are actually catered more towards boys by placing more emphasis on the one exam at the end as opposed to the coursework - the vice versa is where boys fail and girls do better. This is probably why boys have more difficulty in English - it has coursework in essays and controlled assessments while subjects such as maths are all about the one exam at the end. Multiple choice questions or questions with a definitive answer also aid boys and more of this was bought into exams to …	/r/MensRights	23/08/13 06:15 PM
2	Girls get 61% of A* marks at GCSE. No one seems to comment on the disparity. In Wales it's compulsory. Same with Irish in the Irish leaving cert.	/r/MensRights	23/08/13 11:58 AM
1	Girls get 61% of A* marks at GCSE. No one seems to comment on the disparity. To be completely awkward I got 5As in my double award iGCSE sciences (harder than gcse), english lit&lang and history. I got 3As in French, Maths (4 makrs of an A...another iGCSE) and Art. It depends on the schooling mainly. I'm in a top all-girls school and while there is a disparity between girls' abilities in maths, most of us get A*s or As. No one got below a B this year.	/r/MensRights	23/08/13 11:39 AM
3	I seem to be the only kid in my school to notice the ridiculous amount of sexism. Ah yes I found the name - it was a response to 'The Coral Islands'. It's even referenced at the end of LOTF. I fully support this experiment: FOR SCIENCE!	/r/MensRights	14/08/13 04:25 PM
1	I seem to be the only kid in my school to notice the ridiculous amount of sexism. It's all hypothetical - we don't know how young boys would behave either. Remember the novel was in a part response to...whatsitsname...another novel that depicted boys stranded on an island but it all went a lot smoother. I can't remember the name off the top of my head but it was trying to contradict that as well.	/r/MensRights	14/08/13 12:34 PM
2	I seem to be the only kid in my school to notice the ridiculous amount of sexism. Do they? It was just a poor shot at creating context for the novel when there's a lot more depth you can go into (whether Golding wanted to or not). It's not a point that can't be viable - it's just a poor choice among many others you could use. If you wanted to look at a sexuality/gender point of view you could point out the underlying themes of gang rape and power in the novel as opposed to "lol dey did dat cuz no feeeeeeeeeeemalezzzzzz".	/r/MensRights	14/08/13 12:08 PM
2	Threw the "Real Men Have Curves" Image on Facebook. Got a lecture about body image... sigh To me it looked like she was agreeing with you - nice bodies and muscles not defining men and all. She seems to think you are trying to make fun of the fat guy here and not making a comparison between the women's body things. She seems to be on your side anyway...maybe quote the bad aprts in case I'm misreading this?	/r/MensRights	14/08/13 04:36 AM
11	I seem to be the only kid in my school to notice the ridiculous amount of sexism. I'm in an all-girls school which (understandably) holds a bit of a pro-feminist stance and no one (not even the students) has ever tried to say something so stupid. That's basically grasping for straws in terms of context....	/r/MensRights	14/08/13 04:17 AM
-1	"We can be victims, too!" Some people make the assumption that because a woman is raped while drunk that she must have really consented and it wasn't really rape. For the other person it can be hard to distinguish the lack of consent because while she might be going "no", she isn't really fighting it.	/r/MensRights	11/08/13 09:17 PM
4	"We can be victims, too!" I don't understand why no one discusses the fact a woman might not consent while she is drunk either. She might be saying "no", but is too weak to pose any reasonable resistance.	/r/MensRights	11/08/13 08:59 PM
1	Unwarranted hate and hostility towards the MRM Did SRS end up enforcing the np.reddit rules? I can't remember.	/r/MensRights	10/08/13 10:59 PM
1	Unwarranted hate and hostility towards the MRM There was brigading - there was proof of it. I'm not sure what the extent of SRS' brigading though; I don't go there and nor do I want to.	/r/MensRights	10/08/13 07:54 PM
1	Was pleasantly surprised to see this on Tumblr. Thought you guys would appreciate it I don't deny males are also raped - the 40% just seemed a bit over the top...15% as men also rape men (such as in prison). Lesbian rape doesn't seem to happen much (or we just don't hear about it) - most likely because it would be sexual assault unless there was forced penetration with an object.	/r/MensRights	10/08/13 07:47 PM
1	Was pleasantly surprised to see this on Tumblr. Thought you guys would appreciate it Thank you for this - I'm not a mathematician myself so I wasn't sure how to replicate the numbers behind it.	/r/MensRights	10/08/13 06:28 PM
1	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female You're welcome can't tell if sarcasm or...	/r/MensRights	10/08/13 12:22 PM
1	Was pleasantly surprised to see this on Tumblr. Thought you guys would appreciate it Go for it - the dude in the video also did another method that got 5% but I can't say I understood that as well as the 15% number (video guy seemed to support 15% more as well anyway).	/r/MensRights	10/08/13 12:18 PM
1	Was pleasantly surprised to see this on Tumblr. Thought you guys would appreciate it Yes. However the website hoster refused to even watch it because it was both too long and not in a written format so I have no idea if he's actually able to refute the video.	/r/MensRights	09/08/13 06:39 PM
1	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female You have to watch the whole thing. He does allow that as rape - it isn't rape according to the study but he uses the numbers from it. That's just him reading from that part - admittedly the first 5 minutes detailing that are a little useless but it provides context at least.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 10:45 PM
2	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female I'll just take this as you aren't interested. Have a good day.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 04:04 PM
2	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female So do the rape stats. So what is the argument here? It actually does have to be in written form to be valid. Does it really? One could say you posting on the internet in writing isn't valid and it should be in an official, published study for it to be valid. How does you making an unofficial statement in writing differ from his unofficial statement via video? Both you and him are using the best platform to get your information out. His is on a popular youtube channel - yours is using a popular r…	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 03:46 PM
2	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female He referenced it and included forced penetration into his analysis. He read form the study itself that the forced penetration stats do include attempts that were not completed. This is in the study you are referencing. He also used your second source about men underreporting - he did an analysis both with and without it. It does not have to be written in order for it to be valid.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 03:27 PM
1	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female It isn't a waste of time - and it's a completely breakdown of the numbers. I'm sure at some point today (or tomorrow, or whenever) you have a little bit of time to set aside for critical analysis. I would have thought it would have been an issue you were passionate about, but if not - excuse my assumption in that. Clearly your passion will not extend your attention span.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 03:12 PM
1	Woman called a rapist by another woman 2 years after the fact. Let's show her some support. The OP is called /u/TheSocialExperiment - the story is likely false and there will probably be (if it hasn't been) a post on that account or a similar throwaway with a guy and a girl, or two guys. There might be an article of some kind making everyone eat crow...or it's for the user's amusement.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 03:10 PM
2	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female Why not?	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 03:01 PM
2	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female Please refute this guy - he's scathing of MRAs but his numbers seem right. I'm guessing you can explain why he's actually wrong though since it's your numbers? Unfortunately the researchers didn't provide the rate for the last 12 months. If it was asterisked thin it was because there weren't enough. It said so on the bottom.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 10:40 AM
0	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female The numbers are wrong.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 10:38 AM
2	Infographic: 40% of rapists are female The maths was cherry-picked and wrong...the maths was completely debunked by this guy. He's scathing of MRAs but his maths is unfortunatly correct.	/r/MensRights	08/08/13 10:37 AM
2	The theory of 'patriarchy' itself is a theory of female inferiority. How is it slut-shaming? Do you believe only "sluts" can enjoy oral? Why do you call them "sluts"? That's a bit derogatory...^<sup>sounds</sup> ^<sup>almost</sup> ^<sup>like</sup> ^<sup>you're</sup> ^<sup>slut-shaming.</sup>	/r/MensRights	06/08/13 01:15 PM
1	Paedophile rapist sentenced to 16 months prison, will be free in a week for time served. Yes, she's a woman. Would this make you feel better then?	/r/MensRights	03/08/13 09:55 AM
1	Paedophile rapist sentenced to 16 months prison, will be free in a week for time served. Yes, she's a woman. The same happened here with a male as the aggressor in the UK.	/r/MensRights	03/08/13 09:49 AM
1	Apparently life as a woman is a rape dystopia where sexual harassment is around every corner... They are just using hyperbole to get their point across. ... I hope.	/r/MensRights	03/08/13 09:43 AM
1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM The focus on high female rape in prisons is dishonest for many reasons, beginning with the fact that advocacy on that topic uses reporting stats to marginalize male victims. I do not in any way agree with this. It does not marginalise the problems on male victims - it's just an issue needing addressing. This is like saying focus on false rape accusations is marginalising actual rapes. and the number of males reporting rape may be higher. It is - the number of males who are sexually victimised by…	/r/MensRights	02/08/13 06:17 PM
1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM When you refer to criticism of feminism as feminist-bashing, it's pretty hard to take seriously your claim that you don't think they're exempt from criticism. Then I feminist-bash, clearly. repeat the information without always citing the source of it doesn't change whether the information is factual, and again, doesn't make it bashing. They don't need to. Saying feminism doesn't address men's issues is not a feminist-bash. Saying it focuses on the wrong things is not a feminist bash. Saying fem…	/r/MensRights	02/08/13 04:30 PM
1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM I did not suggest that feminism covered men's rights and nor do I think they are exempt from criticism. I am pointing out that it isn't entirely one-way: some members of this sub mindlessly criticise without factual evidence. The same happens on feminist subs. I was actually agreeing with /u/Ekekekeptangyazingni - and criticising the feminist movement myself in the above replies. Though I feel as though you are implying a person can not hold sympathy towards both the feminist and MRM - forgive m…	/r/MensRights	02/08/13 11:23 AM
0	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM Let's use the modern percentages of how many rape claims are false. Even if it was as high as 40% it doesn't quite cover double. I don't understand why you are being so dramatic about this. In the source I used, it also said men were more likely to face sexual victimisation from staff than women. All I'm reading is emotion without rationality.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 05:11 PM
1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM Care to explain how any of that BS reply is related to the argument at hand? Or are you just throwing around petty accusations for lack of a better argument?	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 05:08 PM
-1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM Not enough for it to be almost twice the amount than males - even when taken into account.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 03:29 PM
-1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM How is this in any way related to the current argument?	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 03:28 PM
1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM I think the ideal is for neither to bash one each other - there is a lot of feminist bashing here (though IRL it is more one siding with the feminists focusing efforts on shutting down the MRM movement). It's very crazy indeed...and sad, as you said. Disappointing on the feminist front anyway.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 03:25 PM
-1	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM falsely accuse other inmates of rape more Source for this ignorant assumption? Even if we assumed some of these were fake, it would not make a drastic enough difference and females would still be raped/sexually victimised more in prison.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 02:32 PM
0	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM There are tens of millions of young men who have faced hatred and discrimination at the hands of feminists for years who read AVFM and instantly become MRAs. Source? Most people I know that first read that think it's a hate site until I explain it's satirical nature.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 02:31 PM
0	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM The problem is that the only audience it will appeal to is the current audience. A fresh visitor who doesn't have much experience of men's rights (or of the general tone/satire of AVFM) would be - quite frankly - pretty horrified and may not focus on the key, valid points that would draw them into the moment. Instead they are turned off by it and gain a bad impression of the MRM as a whole because of the way the site comes off as.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 01:19 AM
2	Very fair opinion piece on the MRM I think feminism is needed but it is focusing in entirely the wrong areas. Female prisoners (4.7 percent) were more than twice as likely as male prisoners (1.9 percent) to report experiencing sexual victimization by another prisoner. Jail inmates reported a similar pattern of inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization (3.1 percent for females compared to 1.3 percent for males). I would have thought high rates of female prison rape would be higher on the feminist list of priorities than what they are …	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 01:15 AM
0	UK 10 Pound note -- great scientist to be replaced with adequate writer of fiction. No prizes for guessing the sexes involved. TV adaptations Wow. So you're commenting (very specifically) on books you haven't actually bothered reading.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 01:09 AM
2	Male student left in prison cell for four days without food or water. I think the source is only for single sexed prisons and the cases of rape were higher in single-sexed female prisons. I will find and double check. CHECKED: Female prisoners (4.7 percent) were more than twice as likely as male prisoners (1.9 percent) to report experiencing sexual victimization by another prisoner. Jail inmates reported a similar pattern of inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization (3.1 percent for females compared to 1.3 percent for males). Source It is not specified.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 12:47 AM
3	Male student left in prison cell for four days without food or water. Female rape in prisons is also higher than male rape in prisons.	/r/MensRights	01/08/13 12:31 AM
2	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. We are. Though some one has replied to me saying this was staged - no proof but if it was then I'm not sure this can be entirely trusted.	/r/MensRights	31/07/13 11:35 PM
1	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. Except if the same happened to most other people their first instict is that they are being attacked - logic comes after. IRL (apparantly this is staged) the person may think the jolt was an excuse to cover it up. Not saying it's right or reasonable but some people rely too heavily on their insticts and just go for it instead of slowing down to think about the situation rationally.	/r/MensRights	31/07/13 09:54 PM
0	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. Then they should better represent it by having them bang into each other in the same manner - ie: her banging his bum/hand on his crotch by accident, or him banging into her shoulder. It's just badly done if it was staged to prove a point.	/r/MensRights	31/07/13 09:52 PM
1	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. He did not - again, see things form her point of view. You're putting words in my mouth. He did not assault her and the reaction was not warranted as it was an accident: we can see this from the third person point of view. All she sees/feels is a guy slamming his crotch onto her backside.	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 10:18 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy I do but there is no real way to implement it.	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 10:16 PM
1	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. It's perfectly fine :) Upvoted for being so polite about it :)	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:44 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Legally it is completely consistent. You cannot change the consistency of private practices - and there are private practices who will not hands-down provide abortions. There are likely some that demand the father be there to discuss it as well. You cannot change the opinion of people you do not know or have spoken to - merely campaign that they have to be consistent (which they should be doing). Legally these private practices are going against the law by needing signatures for either party's s…	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:43 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Legally, neither parties need consent for sterilisation under HIPAA. All you have to do is google and you find hundreds of women sharing their experiences on the issue like OP is doing here.	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:40 PM
1	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. I am not saying it is acceptable. If he had purposefully violated her that would have been sexual harassment - where she may have had a legal right due to protecting herself. I don't see why you are saying her assault is bad while not pointing out he legally assaulted her too. Neither are in the right by that view.	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:38 PM
-5	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. On one hand he's bumping into her with his crotch on her arse - this can be taken very inappropriately and as if it was done intentionally. In his case she bumped into him sideways, hitting shoulders. Do not pretend they did the same thing - both made a mistake but it's hard to take her mistake as intentional and as sexually as the first. If he bumped his shoulder against hers I highly doubt she would have slapped him in all honesty.	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:36 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Legally neither of you need a signature under HIPAA.	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:34 PM
1	Do you believe Misandry is a global problem, or a Western one? Fact is, you asked for actual experience and I gave it. If you want a logical statistic, ask for one next time. How has it taken you 2 months to reply to that? Lol	/r/MensRights	30/07/13 04:33 PM
16	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. I did not say it was. I am trying to see from all points of view here.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 11:43 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy We are saying it in the context of sterilisation in a marriage. There is a law in America already that says you do not need a spousal's signature for most things (including vasectomies and tube typing). It is private practices that insist upon it - but they are fair in that they need it for both. So legally it's completely consistent by your logic. Private practices on one hand should not be forced to preform things they do not want to however I do believe they should abide by the law.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 10:53 PM
16	The first part of this happens daily in Indian buses. I can't say the same about second part. From her POV she probably thought he did it intentionally. From an outside point of view we can see that isn't the case.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 10:36 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Legally no one needs a signature for anything - but most private practices usually insist on signatures for both. That's a bit of an outlier.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 10:23 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Unfortunately there is no clear solution - I agree that private practices should be allowed some freedom. At the risk of appearing ignorance; I thought America didn't have public healthcare? I imagine there are government owned and business owned but that the public practices still charged and acted as if they were private themselves?	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 08:58 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Not all feminists are one person - but I do now see your point there. It would be contradictal towards the more extreme leaders therefore they don't mention it...leaving followers who don't find out elsewhere quite ignorant. I think what I also meant by it being a non-gendered issue (back to the topic of needing a signature) is that instead of campaigning that men should not need their wife's signature for a vasectomy but that we should say no person should require a signature for sterilisation …	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 08:21 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy I was only meaning within the context of this thread - people here do seem to assume needing your partner's signature for sterilisation is a gendered, male issue when it's true for both parties. I agree in your misunderstanding of me that some issues here are maybe not so gendered - woman-on-woman rape in prisons is actually significantly higher than male-on-male rape in jail. However it is still something to be addressed (I don't know why feminism continues to ignores this). Child support laws …	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 06:01 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy It isn't required by law. HIPAA means it is against the law to require a signature. It've private practices who insist on it.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 05:57 PM
1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy It's actually barred by HIPAA to require a signature but most private practices don't seem to care. Not sure about Canada.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 05:50 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Most people here seem to be unaware that it applies to women - I am sorry for assuming you to also be part of that. My mistake.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 05:49 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Quite widespread but in America it isn't really a legal requirement - but private practices often want it before they do any procedure.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 05:21 PM
4	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Men do not NEED a signature either but private practices often require this to cover their arses. I am only pointing out that this is not a gendered issue - but you are correct in that it is not a requirement by law.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 05:21 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy It isn't a non-issue at all but I am just saying it isn't a gendered issue - just an unfair issue. I'm surprised feminism isn't advocating for private practices to stop this nonsense but in all honesty their priorities are a little fucked up at the moment...	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 05:03 PM
3	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Many doctors do this for both male and female sterilisation. It's unfair and ridiculous but this is not a gendered issue.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:51 PM
0	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Because that isn't an equivalent. A husband's signature is however needed for tube tying - which is.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:50 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Women need their husband's permission to get their tubes tied which is exactly the same as a male vasectomy.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:49 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy It is equally ridiculous that women need their husband's signature to have their tubes tied - and these are the views by the same people.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:49 PM
-1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy a greater argument for a husband to have to provide "permission" for an abortion This is a separate argument and is not comparable to this situation as it is not an equivalent.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:48 PM
-2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy for an abortion That's stupid as it is not comparable. Getting your tubes tied is the equivalent and a woman needs her husband's signature for that. There is no inequality - just not a good system in place.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:47 PM
13	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Women need a signature to have their tubes tied so this isn't an unequal situation.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:46 PM
2	Wife's permission for a vasectomy get an abortion. Except this isn't comparable. Women need their husband's signature to get their tubes tied which is the direct equivalent.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:45 PM
-1	Wife's permission for a vasectomy You need a signature to have your tubes tied.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:45 PM
11	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Women need to get a signature in order to have their tubes tied which is the direct equivalent. I can think of why but it's not really fair for either party.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:45 PM
-4	Wife's permission for a vasectomy Women need a signature from their husband to have their tubes tied. It's equal.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 04:44 PM
1	15 year old girl directed 3 boys to expose and photograph and draw on parts of another girl's body who passed out and later killed herself. Boys arrested, girl is free. I agree - there is more to it than what we are being told. However I can't speculate as to what...only go by what I know. Valid point though.	/r/MensRights	29/07/13 07:39 AM
1	CNN feminist says infidelity is a form of abuse ... but only if men do it: "... he admits to his latest sexual offense against her, what it really is: spousal abuse." It could be a form of vengeance. Their way of screwing them over without sinking to cheating. Just an idea.	/r/MensRights	28/07/13 09:17 PM
1	15 year old girl directed 3 boys to expose and photograph and draw on parts of another girl's body who passed out and later killed herself. Boys arrested, girl is free. I don't think they really knew. I agree with /u/Cant_Ban_All_MRAs on this front.	/r/MensRights	28/07/13 05:44 PM
5	15 year old girl directed 3 boys to expose and photograph and draw on parts of another girl's body who passed out and later killed herself. Boys arrested, girl is free. That isn't even comparable though. If the guy was naked, drawn on, photographed and raped/sexually assaulted then it would be a direct equivilant. For that, everyone involved is indeed a criminal - they should be arrested.	/r/MensRights	28/07/13 05:42 PM
1	"My boyfriend doesn't like giving me head" "Wow, what an asshole, you should tie him up and force him to perform sexual acts against his will. He's just being immature and any man who doesn't want to go down on a girl deserves to be cheated on and/or broken up with" It isn't word for word or a quote. OP said in a comment my quote was satrizing him	/r/MensRights	27/07/13 06:59 PM
1	Apparently bitching about other people's work is more important than the actual work. (x-post gaming) ;)	/r/MensRights	27/07/13 08:47 AM
-2	Apparently bitching about other people's work is more important than the actual work. (x-post gaming) is something that Feminism doesn't like Must we bring their opinion into everything...this is about Men's Rights - not reruns of their opinion. It is very tiresome. I know that might have not been your main point but it was the one that stuck out to me the most. I'd like to hear your ideas though on how to find the unreported incidents. We can assume there are also unreported woman on woman incidents. I don't think it would make a vast amount of difference. From you, it just came off as very "AH…	/r/MensRights	26/07/13 10:45 PM
-7	Apparently bitching about other people's work is more important than the actual work. (x-post gaming) So when a source doesn't fit your confirmation bias you make a sweeping assumption to make it fit.	/r/MensRights	26/07/13 07:44 PM
1	How do people feel about Women only gyms? They do actually but you have to look for them first and they don't have as much of a booming business - most men don't really care as much....	/r/MensRights	26/07/13 07:36 PM
1	Seen on the NYC subway.. Divorce can't happen if there's no marriage ^<sup>ignoramus</sup>	/r/MensRights	26/07/13 07:31 PM
2	Seen on the NYC subway.. That would be better if there was a more equal ration between teenage fathers being abandoned but there isn't. It's just likely the male teenager will not stay. We can't argue with numbers.	/r/MensRights	25/07/13 09:57 PM
1	Hardcore Reality: 7 Reasons Why YOUR Husband Watches Porn Must we play the blame game? There is probably a little truth in that comment but it isn't even part of the article.	/r/MensRights	25/07/13 09:45 PM
-1	I’ll decide if you were raped, not you It seems no one really understands my main point or didn't actually read/understand what I said. This is incredibly ironic. I guess I expect too much from you guys sometimes.	/r/MensRights	25/07/13 07:52 AM
5	I’ll decide if you were raped, not you I did read the whole thing. Think in the mindset not of some one who is here to read and critique/support the article for self-interest (such as MRAs and frequent website visitors), but in the mind of some one who is new to this movement and that website. They are probably not going to "get" the satirical nature unless their attention-span lasts longer than a minute or two, since people who are browsing out of curiosity don't last much longer than that. The writer should have made it a little cl…	/r/MensRights	24/07/13 10:40 PM
1	Should it be considered rape if a woman lies about being on birth control? Except birth control is not 100% effective. Using two forms of BC at once is not 100% effective.	/r/MensRights	24/07/13 10:17 PM
1	I’ll decide if you were raped, not you Yes I did. As I said, it was meant to be ironic. It was meant to prove a point. Some one random reading that might not even get to the last 2/3 because the first part does not make itself clear as satirical until the end of the first third. Maybe you should eat crow...you clearly did not read my post.	/r/MensRights	24/07/13 10:09 PM
5	A girl is taken from loving father and given to adoptive parents. Brown turned over his custody rights through a text message and a signed agreement. Brown did so because he was just about to be deployed to Iraq, but now claims he was confused and thought he was giving custody to Veronica’s biological mother. So he basically did a "paper abortion".	/r/MensRights	19/07/13 11:47 AM
1	29 Signs you go to a women's college. Some of these things are mildly infuriating. Care to share the study. Sure. Source is The Journal of Human Rescources. Pretty reputable. Sure 2x . It says girls preform better but does state reasons as to why co-ed might also be a good choice. (Sure 3x)[http://www.singlesexschools.org/research-brain.htm] this one is a lot longer and takes a while to get to the point. I reccomend the first source tbh. Page 5 thoguh it does say boys have mixed results. Again I am not sure how good of a source this is - it is from a .gov.uk link though which …	/r/MensRights	18/07/13 02:37 PM
1	29 Signs you go to a women's college. Some of these things are mildly infuriating. But this isn't hiring. This is schooling. I liked being in an all-girls environment - I was a lot happier. If it was a public, co-ed school then it would be sexist due to discriminating but it was a private, all-girls. There was an all-boys Catholic school around the corner. Should I tell them to stop being so sexist and discriminatory to other religions? Also, it is proven. I had studies linked in a reply to /u/charmander92	/r/MensRights	18/07/13 02:26 PM
1	29 Signs you go to a women's college. Some of these things are mildly infuriating. I have been in an all-girls school since I was 6. There are also plenty of all-boys schools - in fact, the all-boys is just down the road from my school. Two years ago they went co-ed to improve their league table standings so they could take in the girls that didn't get into my senior school. Sounds like I'm making shit up but that was literally their stand point. It's proven girls preform better in all-girls environments and boys preform better in co-ed (generally). There are plenty of college…	/r/MensRights	14/07/13 09:02 AM
3	A note on the "Don't Be That Guy" campaign My position is that this demands some kind of a legal response. There are clear intellectual property issues Is the part that swung it for me. I know they are against the message itself, but what you said was basically the same as me...their copyright images were used in a way they didn't intend (they pointed it out it was specifically to do with something they found offensive). I don't know if they do or don't have legal rights over the pictures but it's something to keep in mind I guess.	/r/MensRights	12/07/13 01:17 PM
1	"What attracted you to me?"[PIC] I'm in the UK. I can't speak for America. Apparantly labour jobs are paid well there - nurse jobs and the like aren't though.	/r/MensRights	12/07/13 01:15 PM
1	There was this link on /r/creepypms. What do MRA's have to do with this? You say that as if I actually said it.	/r/MensRights	12/07/13 01:14 PM
7	A note on the "Don't Be That Guy" campaign What he actually said is their copyright images were used in a way they didn't intend. This is more copy right law stuff - you could have picked a more appropriate quote for your reply (there were plenty).	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 11:54 PM
1	"What attracted you to me?"[PIC] You also get paid a lot more. My partner from Aus hates the UK because while things are cheaper, his pay isn't the same ratio basically so he ends up living much smaller than he's used to.	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 11:48 PM
4	There was this link on /r/creepypms. What do MRA's have to do with this? Like when they say "no" just completely back off? That would work. But - realistically - it doesn't happen that often.	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 11:26 PM
3	There was this link on /r/creepypms. What do MRA's have to do with this? One girl can't control every single woman out there. We aren't all one person. Therefore, this is the only way that works at the moment. Men also tell men the same thing...	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 08:23 PM
4	There was this link on /r/creepypms. What do MRA's have to do with this? But in her post, she's saying calling some one "creepy" is the only way to prove you are not hard to get because saying "no" or the other methods could give the impression to people that you are just being hard to get and they will pursue. It's rude, a little insulting and childish but it really is the only thing that works when you think about it. Y'all can get mad and downvote but she's kind of right. Atm, it's the only thing that works...whether it should be what works is highly questionable …	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 06:07 PM
1	"Wait, what?" at the bookstore today. I do think that's a bit over the top. I mean...when it comes down to it...it's literally just a t-shirt. She was a strange lady anyhu	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 12:14 PM
1	"Wait, what?" at the bookstore today. Not all feminists are going to be offended by the same thing, basically. There are also feminists to varying degrees with different views on things. Kind of like the MRA board (except they have significantly less crazies - there's a few but not to the same extent).	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 09:36 AM
1	"Wait, what?" at the bookstore today. Not all feminists are one person.	/r/MensRights	11/07/13 01:48 AM
12	Housing Gap: Single women buying homes at twice the rate of single men. I'm guessing you mean: "women earn 82 cents for every dollar a man makes one year after graduation) and lenders favor two-income households over single earners, Lautz says women are "making the most sacrifices to get into a home, but they're still placing a high value on owning a home of their own."" But it does say ont he second page: "Despite lower pay, women handle credit more responsibly than men, on average, according to Experian, which reports that men have a 7 percent higher incidence of …	/r/MensRights	09/07/13 10:16 PM
2	Charles Saatchi leaves his wife because she didn't stick up for him against DV accusations It was a picture of him with his hands on her throat. That's all you know Physical proof, yes. You notice that she didn't press charges or even leave him They are actually separating. Maybe she isn't pressing charges for the sake of her kids? Not all people are so affected by the current litigious society of the west and prefer to keep thigns clean. Could have been a joke, could have been a game they play Her face does not look like it is laughing or taking anything very lightly. A "game they pl…	/r/MensRights	08/07/13 07:03 PM
1	Abortions from one woman's perspective (was going to post this on r/twoxchromosomes but would probably just get hated on) he has let's say 2 weeks after the birth or establishment of paternity to give up his rights and not have to pay child support I don't like this at all because it could land both of them in a load of poop. The woman could carry the baby in the understanding he would be there to help financially, emotionally, and physically. If he randomly changes his mind after the birth...suddenly she is in a very tight spot. I think that the cut off date should be at least a week before the latest abortion dat…	/r/MensRights	08/07/13 12:52 AM
2	New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & Abuse Exactly. And it doesn't actually say girls bullied more (like everyone is inferring): it said "Four in every 10 girls had been excluded from a group, compared to one in three boys". It even said that being excluded from social groups was a primarily "girl" way of bullying (and the difference is only 7% in this anyway)...	/r/MensRights	06/07/13 09:03 AM
2	New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & Abuse They are also men. The men who want to control abortion aren't exactly your average joe either - they hold power too, and I doubt they self-identify as feminists while being very conservative. Your post isn't overwhelmingly controversial - it's just ignorant. The study also pointed out that people who were bullies were generally also bullied themselves. If we go by your way of thinking feminists are only bullying because they themselves are being bullied by the 'patriarchy' - WHICH THEY ALREADY …	/r/MensRights	06/07/13 08:59 AM
3	New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & Abuse And what sources can you site for this baseless claim? One could say the same about MRAs if they were so inclined - because what you say is a matter of opinion. Some people believe men have a great deal of institutional power and the fact they are losing it makes them into violent bullies who grow up to be MRAs. Neither my paragraph there - nor yours - is correct. It's hypocritical and very tunnel-visioned.	/r/MensRights	06/07/13 12:40 AM
1	New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & Abuse But it also says men are more violent - it's a big double edged sword.	/r/MensRights	05/07/13 11:38 PM
4	New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & Abuse I don't agree with /u/Ma99ie , and /u/contract_ was being sarcastic but if he was serious I wouldn't agree with him either. But you can't tell him not to be retarded when he makes a massive generalisation and not criticise the other massive generalisation. THAT'S retarded (and somewhat hypocritical - something we are very critical of feminists for being).	/r/MensRights	05/07/13 11:36 PM
5	New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & Abuse The same study also says boys excel at violent bullying and physical abuse. The study just says what we already know: boys bully other kids with their fists and girls bully other kids with their words (generally anyhoo). I don't see what is so surprising here (or what it has to do with Men's Rights :/)	/r/MensRights	05/07/13 11:31 PM
1	Should a man have fatherhood forced upon him? Or should he have a legal way of waiving it before the woman's pregnancy? A few months is a bit too long - if he says yes and she thinks he'll be around it might sway her to keeping it. A few months later if he removed it she might not actually be able to abort anymore and it would be a prety tragic case. I think we need to find the average deadline for an abortion, go a week before that (so there's time) and say before that certain point a man can change his mind on fatherhood. That way if he decides not to be a father she still has some time to make sure she isn't l…	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 08:10 PM
1	Why does approximately one out of every three children in the United States live in a home without a father? Fathers disappear from households across America. Parity of reproductive rights for men and women Men's birth control is being worked on: I think they are close to getting the equivalent of "the pill" and a much cooler tube insert that works for 10 years - but as soon as it is removed you can have kids again! Fertility control for men See above. At the moment we only have condoms for men but it's being worked on. I'm pretty excited for the tube thing as it is convenient and extremely low matenience for men Shared equal parenting as the default …	/r/MensRights	02/07/13 08:36 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? So you attempt to avoid the fact that you don't actually know what the law says by making an accusation On the contrary. It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person’s sex. Harassment can include “sexual harassment” or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature. Harassment does not have to be of a sexual nature, however, and can include offensive remarks about a person’s sex. For example…	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 10:19 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Then they are not acting under the law - they are acting to cover their asses. That's a different issue altogether: a social/attitude issue. America is an incredibly litigious society though - in all honesty I think 70-80% of these issues regarding how people behave under the pretense of laws such as sexual harassment laws could be prevented if it wasn't so litigious. However I don't think that will happen. I don't agree with the law being removed - it needs to be implemented properly. The wordi…	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 10:04 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Some one has spoken to me about the donglegate event but that is a little different - that was to cover their asses. The whole thing became public and there were a lot of angry people who supported miss. donglegate. There was a lot of bad publicity circling around it - that was an isolated incident/a joke: according to the law, that would not have been an issue. The issue was with the press. I think in the end though miss. donglezareb4d was fired/banned from that institute? I can't quite remembe…	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 10:01 PM
9	Female colleagues have a list of male colleagues rated. rape comments included. HR won't do anything. Time to quit? After reading those I think it is.	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 04:03 PM
1	Female colleagues have a list of male colleagues rated. rape comments included. HR won't do anything. Time to quit? From the law itself: the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious If they view that as a joke, then there isn't much to be done. It's easy enough to request not to sit next to some one but the sexual harassment laws do not prohibit jokes, isolated incidents or offhand comments. But if this sort of thing happens again, bring both pieces of evidence. The incident is then no longer isolated and they will be forced to take it seriously. J…	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 11:16 AM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious and in effect ends up giving women a huge tool to make men behave in a way that they want them to You all seem to have this incredibly distorted view that men do not get sexually harassed. You also seem to believe all the law does is put down a few crude joke-tellers. The current sexual harassment law doesn't merely do this, in fact it doesn't even require that the person knows their behavi…	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 11:12 AM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious People being fired would be the employers choice rather than the law making them do that. Plus, one incident or even a few is not enough to warrant termination of your job. A complaint needs to be filed, then the person who did it is told not to do it again. If they persist in the behaviour - then it becomes necessary. Ever thought maybe the employer her/himself didn't like the fact his emp…	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 11:05 AM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Actually, as stated in the law - jokes are not treated as sexual harassment. The fact you seem to believe the only sexual harassment is a bunch of silly jokes being made then that is a very ignorant view that I'm not sure is even worth arguing against.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:27 PM
2	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Thanks! And if only natural selection really worked so well... I'm glad we managed to excersise each other's minds a bit. Have a good day, Aaod :)	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:21 PM
2	Mens Rights activists compared to Holocaust Deniers So on one hand, it is sexist to only have men on the front line/in the military. They are seen as "disposable". But then you don't actually want women in there at all because they will "dilute" the overall quality and cause small inconveniences such as needing tampons. I have yet to see a clear stance being represented on the issue in /r/MensRights	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:07 PM
1	Is there a legitimate reason to search all bags that aren't purses? That's incredibly unfair then.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:47 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? But then this is not an issue with the law itself - it is just being abused. To remove it would not prevent this kind of abuse - people who do this sort of thing will do it wherever they can. Most of the time - a vast majority really - this abuse does not happen with the law: hence why it is in the news when it does. Though the reason it got so much publicity (dongle incident) was due to a certain group of people making it a public issue. I doubt if this was dealt with in a sane matter (and with…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 06:37 PM
1	Mens Rights activists compared to Holocaust Deniers I would have thought they would do it anyway...I'll just accept my downvotes for this reply in all honesty because I didn't know it didn't work that way anymore. I always figured discipline was a big thing in the army - if you were a whinger it would be beat out of you. That is something I did not know. The only thing I am curious about though is.. Yes you can actually How? Unless you are over/underweight, pregnant, too young (<13), too old (>45) or pregnant, I don't see how a woman can physical…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 06:02 PM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? The early feminist leaders were a bunch of jobless rich women who had plenty of time for that sort of activism. Thank god then that they chose to spend their time in a productive manner. Feminist groups committed arson and even bombings well into the 1970's. And they were treated far better than men who committed similar crimes would have been In this day and age no one would be treated the way some of them were treated. What you describe was the extremist suffragettes - there are extremists in …	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:56 PM
2	Is there a legitimate reason to search all bags that aren't purses? Oh. That's incredibly unfair then - and kind of stupid. They should change that policy to "small purses" - that way it should keep sanitary towels/tampons hidden while keeping things a bit fair.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:40 PM
3	Just feminists explaining why its okay for women to have choices, but men get obligations ("Financial Abortions") if you're going to deny that a pregnant woman isn't carrying an offspring, then there's simply no reason for you to be even attempting to debate things you have no knowledge of. The risks of pregnancies are not "insignificant" - they are there. keep your silly beliefs about a child magically appearing during birth to yourself. Well here's an open-minded one! A child doesn't magically appear just as an embryo doesn't magically appear after fertilisation. How about reading what I wrote? Is an acor…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:39 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? If you read the above, the law does not include teasing. You also don't seem to understand the law. You are not going to be fired on your first time if there is a complaint. They inform you of what happened and tell you not to do it again. Then if there are continuous complaints filed there becomes an issue. Since most complaints are also filled out informally so a name is not used they do not actually count as strikes against anyone. This law also affects men. People on the whole should not be …	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:23 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Do you not believe men get sexually harassed too? Because they do and taking this law away would not only affect ~women~ but all those men as well. You take away their voice too.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:20 PM
1	Is there a legitimate reason to search all bags that aren't purses? How big are purses in America? In my reply I wasn't sure if purses = handbags or not in the states - here they are different things O.o	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 12:13 PM
1	Is there a legitimate reason to search all bags that aren't purses? Isn't a purse very small though? I'm not sure what a purse implies in America, but int he UK you really could not hide very much in a purse. It's like a wide, flat wallet like this or this - generally just used for spare change or pads/tampons. Maybe they don't search them so they don't cause discomfort to their employees, having to rustle through other women's sanitary towels/tampons? People may have complained about it. Maybe you should ask about why their policy is to avoid purses. A handbag …	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 12:11 PM
0	Why We Should Care that Ken Hoinsky Has Been Branded a Rapist That yes does not have to be verbal. That yes can be physical Except she is verbally saying no. You don't try to turn a "no" into a "yes" and pressure her into it. If she wants to communicate "come fuck me" with her body language, she can But she isn't. She is saying "no". point, the fact that she proposes it again does not automatically make her overture assault. If she puts her hand on your crotch and you say "no", if she does it again and again and again that is sexual assault. You did not co…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:52 AM
2	"Why don't women commit crime?" this is what they teach in sociology No. It's from 1955 so it is too outdated now.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:46 AM
1	Mens Rights activists compared to Holocaust Deniers 4) They just make a lot of things more complicated, such as having to include tampons in a ships inventory or having women's washrooms and extra showers. Tampons? You can't control needing a tampon. Since you look so badly on the "whoring themselves out" I doubt you will agree with mixed shower-rooms where it could happen more. Also, by that argument, you might as well remove showers all together for men and women - such a hassle! So much more complicated. They can just bathe in rivers or someth…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:43 AM
3	Legal sex + smartphone video = sex offender registry for life If you are of an age where you can have sex with someone You can technically stick a penis into some one 8 or younger. You can get it into some one very young with a lot of pain. That argument just doesn't work. you are of an age where someone filming it Hell no. When you consent to sex you do not consent to being filmed. That is a different matter - it's a big invasion of privacy. Just because you go to the bathroom doesn't mean you consent to some one filming you do it. This is the same with g…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:37 AM
3	Just feminists explaining why its okay for women to have choices, but men get obligations ("Financial Abortions") 1) females are allowed to legally kill their offspring if they do not desire it; males have no say on whether they want to be a parent and they are legally mandated to provide for the offspring. Offspring? It's a fetus. It is not a child yet. It is not "killed". Is an acorn a tree? No. Does it have the potential to be a tree? Yes. But if I choose to dispose of that acorn before it grows into one, it is not the same as cutting down a tree. if we consider the purpose of child support, that is prov…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:29 AM
1	Woman indicted for ricin letters blaming her husband! I think doubtful needs to... "check his logic" sunglasses go on ...sorry	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 11:10 AM
0	Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics) That was the point of the bill - it was done to be satirical and a backlash against the bill for abortions and such. I doubt it will pass...I seriously hope not anyway...otherwise then it does indicate a problem.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:34 AM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? You can't really say you don't want to organise because everytime you do you face a backlash - that happens with every early movement. Feminists who chained themselves to the railings of 10 Downing Street went to prison - their hunger strike was met with being force fed and they were treated very badly when in prison. But they continued because they would not be ignored. If some one also saw that video without knowing about MRM, they might think that woman was a complete and utter a-hole. She wa…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:28 AM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? You can't not do something just because it might face some backlash. If there are no protests, marches, campaigns then the MRM will not get any publicity from itself - only from feminists. For all the good and the bad they have done/are doing they do quite a bit to get what they want. You can ignore a subreddit or an online petition but you can't ignore a large group of people who - no matter what issues arise from the opposition - stand their ground and make themselves known.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:21 AM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? if they hadn't had (Black Panthers, bra-burning, in-your-face "we're gay, you gotta deal with it" Pride events, building camps on public land and marching in the streets). But so far, I have not seen any part of the MRM on the news for any marches, camps, events, or protests. If you want things done you have to "prove" to everyone else that you are doing something yourself. A board simply talking about it that signs a small online petition from time to time is not going to change or make laws.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:14 AM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? TL;DR: You don't currently understand because you are a woman, and people don't often get upset at you for being angry. I don't think that was the best way to reply. In fact, that was pretty damn sexist.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:10 AM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? But you could also campaign for the issues that are apparent - hold a protest or a march or something. That way you make your own publicity as opposed to Feminists doing it for you...and we can all agree they aren't doing the best job for you.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:08 AM
1	Why do so many people seem to hate us? But feminism has done other things. It has passed laws, it can has made campaigns, petitions and protests. Maybe these things are in the past for the western world but in the present they are working very hard in third-world countries. Unless the MRM actually starts to organise it will only be seen as armchair activists who exist purely to hate on feminism to the outside viewer - who may or may not be a feminist. If they are, there is a chance to educate them but instead they get pushed away by …	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 08:06 AM
14	Life term for US woman who cut off ex's penis Funnily enough, it was a woman that told her that too. Wonder if she browses this board? It's a small world.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:53 AM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious So that joke shouldn't have been an issue - legally. Unless the men had a history of actual sexual harassment. It happened because the whole thing got a lot of negative press - so to save reputation, the men faced punishment. It's a bit of a separate matter: more to do with reputation than the actual act itself.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:46 AM
2	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious A joke would not be considered sexual harassment. It is people attitude's shifting that mean an off-colour joke making fun of them might be serious enough to regard as harassment - but really all it warrants is a quick "that wasn't funny"; "I'm sorry" and then everyone goes back to working. Your employer is also not paying you to tell jokes - so there is always that side of the coin I suppo…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:42 AM
0	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:39 AM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Harassment can include “sexual harassment” or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature That is what sexual harassment is - from your own mouth. Right. How about instead of you constantly dodging the point I'll make things simple. Just these two questions (treat them separately): How would YOU, personally, go about making an already gender-neutrally written law more gender neutral? Why should we not have sexual harassment la…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:37 AM
0	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Actually your friend proved otherwise. It's gender-neutral.	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 05:27 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? Yes you were spreading a false narrative about women being somehow banned from the work place and I challenged you. No, you went into a complete "all or nothing" sum and pretended to understand me. Unless you are incredibly socially inept (in which case, I am sorry and I did not realise beforehand - will be clearer next time) you know I meant women not being in jobs that weren't factory work (match-making) or other lower-down jobs that weren't in Education - or maybe being a nurse. I meant women…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 05:27 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? This discussion is over. Perfectly fine with me. You cannot argue or discuss properly and I still notice you have conveniently avoided refuting any of my above points. Just to refute you and give you an example who to argue rationally, and logically... Harassment can include “sexual harassment” or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature. It does not mention breasts. I am not a troll for pointing out you completely contradi…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 05:20 PM
-1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? So I made a mistake. How about addressing the rest of my argument? And the way that is phrased...it affects both men and women. a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person’s sex offensive remarks about a person’s sex Both victim and the harasser can be either a woman or a man, and the victim and harasser can be the same sex. So in trying to prove one small mistake wrong (which you have - and ignoring everything else) you have now contradicted one of your biggest points with your o…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 04:49 PM
1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? in 10,000 BC You know exactly what I mean. Don't pretend to be dumb. This idea that women are the only people ever subjected to less than perfect work conditions is bullshit Now you are definitely trolling. Because both men and women have been subjected to less than perfect work conditions. If something is serious enough to be a problem it's a problem whether it happens at work or not Exactly! Hence sexual harassment doesn't only apply to in a work place environment. We seem to be getting on the…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 04:21 PM
2	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? You seem to have completely misunderstood me. I mean I do not agree with your post except for one thing. I don't understand how you can be against laws that disallow sexual harassment towards women. That isn't very pro-equality either, might I just say. There should be laws to prevent it against men as now they are exposed to this issue to when before they were not.	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 02:44 PM
-1	Who else feels sexual harassment laws are ridiculous? They are not bullshit actually. When women were first allowed into the workplace they faced a lot of difficulty in "fitting in". One of the first female police officers was told to do her sit ups at the front, so they could "get a better view of [her] chest". Women were treated as sexual objects. My mother immigrated to Britain to work and had her bosses try get her to have sex with them because she was more vunerable than most workers. You need these sexual harassment laws so women can actually…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 11:28 AM
-7	Why do so many people seem to hate us? Because of threads like this . This was heavily upvoted for quite a long time but suddenly it's been getting the treatment it deserves. I think it is also because the board is now mostly about bashing feminists as opposed to progressing Men's Rights. There are several top voted rape accusers that are punished (and rightly so) or got away scot-free. There are many examples of things that are wrong but you don't really see many top posts arranging protests (ones that aren't in retaliation to femin…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 11:15 AM
1	ESPN reporting on Genarlow Wilson: " Everyone, including the girl and the prosecution, agreed she initiated the act." The "victim" in the article is even said not to have wanted him to be guilty. They cried when we was convicted. But the 15yo nor her mother can actually do anything because it was on a video tape and she was a child. Unfortunately those are facts and that's what convicted him. I personally think there has to be a way to remove his charge or at least make his time much, much shorter. No one thinks he should be rotting in jail...	/r/MensRights	27/06/13 01:27 PM
3	Credibility check: 'I am a divorce lawyer' thread That is probably because that lawyer was involved in the context and knew the cases. A lawyer cannot give you law advice over the internet - it could potentially be malpractice.	/r/MensRights	27/06/13 11:46 AM
1	Credibility check: 'I am a divorce lawyer' thread it's that the inference flew completely over your head. I'm not here to teach basic logic reasoning. ...And thank goodness for that!	/r/MensRights	27/06/13 11:42 AM
0	Check you CIS privilege! (Story in Comments) They wouldn't actually have that many - not more than 6 I think. Especially since labour would have been much more painful with problems they couldn't really fix... However women and men did hunt/forage together. There is anthropic evidence of this (I'd find it now but I'm about to go out)	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 03:58 PM
2	The hypocrisy of "rape culture" and "slut shaming." I agree with you on the front of men needing to be afraid of violence. My older brother has been mugged 5 times and had to beg my dad for money to give to some guy that told him if he didn't get money he would take all his clothes next time they robbed him. It's quite sad considering we weren't actually in a bad area at all (except there was a few bad streets where the guys probably came from) - but I think my older brother was quite flashy with what he had. He liked to wear big, branded jackets…	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 10:25 AM
2	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA He said he sent proof to the mods.	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 10:14 AM
1	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA I never argued otherwise. The actual point was that you seemed a little annoyed when his answer wasn't the one you wanted.	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 02:20 AM
1	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA Right about what? I feel like you are having an entirely different argument that I'm not really involved with	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 01:44 AM
2	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA Actually I never claimed you said anything. I based that off what you said. First the question was on who cheats more. He said men in general. Then you pushed harder and said who could men be cheating on then if they were cheating more? LIEK WHAT HOW DOEZ DIS EVEN WORK?! But now you are making up a completely individual circumstance and stating your opinion on that situation.	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 01:22 AM
1	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA Except you are asking why can't a woman pay a man money because she isn't giving him sex/cleaning anymore (which is also very sexist). Don't start backpedalling and shifting goalposts - it gets very boring after a while.	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 12:37 AM
5	Thoughts on my post "5 ways feminism is destroying our way of life"? A mans job is to impregnate women and a woman's job is to remain pure and stay with 1 partner so that the man can be sure the baby is of his seed, then he will provide for her while she cares for his baby and caters to his sexual needs. It's a beneficial relationship for both parties. This is how human society has worked for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. No actually. That isn't how it worked you crazy person. I will never touch a girl that can't prove that she is a virgin, and even then if she dresses lik…	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 12:34 AM
4	The hypocrisy of "rape culture" and "slut shaming." Not really - when I was younger I was very happy to wander where-ever, whenever and be perfectly happy doing so. This continued until I was 14 (for arguments sake I hit puberty around 11). After that though I had a lot of lewd comments and the general street harassment malarky combined with seeing some guys saying some very dark things. Eventually it makes you a bit paranoid and you stop venturing out at certain times.	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 12:15 AM
2	Check you CIS privilege! (Story in Comments) But actually men didn't hunt while women stayed behind and looked after children. Humans are not solid carnivores - men and women foraged together and generally hunted together as well. Children were mostly left to their own devices at a very early age - mollycoddling until they are 18 is a modern thing.	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 12:05 AM
1	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA Not really. Washing laundry and dishes isn't that hard. Food would be paid for by whatever income (which I assume is dealt with when doing alimony). How exactly would she support him? Buying him a box of deluxe tissues each month so he can fap?	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 11:37 PM
0	I am a divorce lawyer, AMA It's funny how when his answer doesn't fit in with your confirmation bias you try backpedal it until it does....	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 11:29 PM
1	Is this really humor Cosmopolitan? I'd recommend severing contact with them before they injure you trying to experiment some new sex position from hell Cosmo sells them O.o	/r/MensRights	22/06/13 03:16 PM
0	Odd how as The Sims got a bigger and bigger female audience, the female characters got MORE sexualized, not less (and feminists claim that sexualization of female characters is purely MALE fantasy) Many other video games do a lot worse - her waist is at least slightly larger than her head. It is a bit too skinny but weight in Sims is completely customisable - as is muscle tone and the like. Also due to the position she is in her waist is going to look a bit flatter and smaller that it is (visual trick girls used in my old swimming classes). I would not personally say her breasts in this picture is big but maybe you and I have different perceptions of them. Boobs also happen to be customisa…	/r/MensRights	19/06/13 10:33 PM
0	Is this really humor Cosmopolitan? "I'll kick her in the cunt" is fairly popular here actually.	/r/MensRights	19/06/13 06:27 PM
1	Is this really humor Cosmopolitan? a lot of women I will direct you to /r/ShitCosmoSays "A lot of women" don't actually read Cosmo - let alone take it seriously. The only people I've ever seen reading it are young, wannabe teen girls who quickly move past it or very nutty adults. You don't really know what you are talking about here.	/r/MensRights	19/06/13 06:25 PM
1	Odd how as The Sims got a bigger and bigger female audience, the female characters got MORE sexualized, not less (and feminists claim that sexualization of female characters is purely MALE fantasy) If that is their definition of "sexy" then Sims is hardly getting more sexualised.	/r/MensRights	19/06/13 06:16 PM
5	Norway introduces gender neutral conscription as first country in the world Most "social justice warriors" that came from Tumblr and created the movement were American though.	/r/MensRights	14/06/13 07:00 PM
3	Norway introduces gender neutral conscription as first country in the world There was a big thing that has now blown over where women who were fighting to be allowed on the front line actually got it and everyone was up in arms about it. Seems they can't really do anything right...they can't be on the front line for being too weak yet they should be because equality. I think /r/MRA needs to make a clear stance on a lot of things and here I think it needs one.	/r/MensRights	14/06/13 06:51 PM
1	...Now aren't you happy that went MGTOW? If a shitty rap music video by some menopausal women are even part of your reason for for going MGTOW....	/r/MGTOW	14/06/13 06:10 PM
0	Even in 2013 I guess men are obligated to put themselves in danger to protect women. Tell me...what are women obligated to do for men in this modern age? He doesn't. He's assuming.	/r/MensRights	12/06/13 02:33 PM
2	Hypocritical Feminism. A discussion about rape in general is about gender equality. A discussion about female rape is about female rape. A discussion about male rape is about male rape. It's like if a woman went into one of the top posts right now which is about a guy getting refused a prenup by his girlfriend and started talking about how she can't get her husband to sign the divorce papers when he's constantly cheating on her, or her abusive relationship. Her marriage issues just don't have a place in that conversat…	/r/MensRights	09/06/13 04:55 PM
3	On the topic of "Hover hands" I'm glad you tried to comment here.	/r/MensRights	09/06/13 04:41 PM
1	Is Feminism becoming more of a Conservative ideology, while Men's Rights is more Liberal and Progressive? This is unrelated to your argument but your quote is one MRAs should look at. You didn't say a single thing about feminism and conservatives. There is way too many posts regarding feminism on /r/MensRights - this is supposed to be a board about men's rights and instead there are people asking how to win arguments with a feminist, nitpicking at whatever famous radfem has talked about this week and generally only trying to pick away at what feminists have said. As a board we should be posting abou…	/r/MensRights	09/06/13 04:38 PM
2	Something seen while in the UK: Public awareness on male victims of rape. I don't think any man is going to see that and feel bad about not being raped though. The wording will most likely only target the target audience imo.	/r/MensRights	07/06/13 06:15 PM
57	Something seen while in the UK: Public awareness on male victims of rape. I think what they are trying to say is that it doesn't make you less of a man if you do get raped; since this is the attitude that hurts male rape victims the most.	/r/MensRights	07/06/13 10:12 AM
2	Facebook wastes no time in banning the truth I think we just need to put together the amount of reported rapes and sexual assaults in at least three universities per state in different parts of the state so that all social and economical statuses are covered. Then all the universities in all these states can be averaged out and give the most accurate score possible...short of just doing all the universities. But I doubt all universities have their statistics so that's the best we've got I suppose. Then we can put an end to this "1 in 4" no…	/r/MensRights	04/06/13 06:40 PM
1	Under UK law, only a male can commit 'Rape' That's why they have 3 different degrees for sexual assault. Sexual assault of the third degree is the one I am referring to. I should have clarified that however.	/r/MensRights	03/06/13 04:14 PM
4	Under UK law, only a male can commit 'Rape' Rape by objects at the moment is classified as sexual assault I think. I think sexual assault should just be changed so that it receives the same jail time as rape to encompass men. At the moment, according to the CPS sentencing manual, rape can receive anywhere from 10 years to life imprisonment depending on age difference (smaller = lighter sentence) and circumstances while sexual assault is 10 years unless there is an age complication.	/r/MensRights	03/06/13 03:58 PM
1	I Need Feminism Because... No where does it say what she meant, this is something you are adding so you can claim in some weird way that what she is saying is reasonable. Nowhere does it say anything about regretful sex being rape either. Or that men can't be raped. Or that two tipsy consenting adults becomes rape for the woman. She was most likely referring to sex where one person is significantly more drunk than the other or underage or being forced to give consent. This is reasonable because here; a "yes" most certainl…	/r/MensRights	02/06/13 11:24 AM
1	I Need Feminism Because... Why are you assuming that the girl is blind staggering drunk and the man is stone cold sober? Because this is most likely what she would have meant. It also says nowhere whether she meant people changing their minds after consensual sex, but no one is arguing against that. even if some stone cold sober guy talked her into it, would lack of consent be a valid reason to not deal with the consequences of her choice Getting drunk is an irresponsible choice. Raping some one in cold blood while comple…	/r/MensRights	24/05/13 11:46 PM
1	I Need Feminism Because... It depends if the man was sober or not. We don't know if the girl is talking about equally drunk people, but I'd assume she's thinking of the situation where a girl is almost passing out and mostly sober men who aren't far off a good state of judgement rape her. It is also worth considering the drunk person DID say no, but due to being intoxicated are not very able to defend themselves. If she is nearing passed-out-drunk, and he is completely sober it is more likely he scouted her out for the se…	/r/MensRights	24/05/13 05:53 PM
5	I Need Feminism Because... I'll probably get downvoted for this, but I think she meant "yes doesn't mean yes when they are too intoxicated to consent, or are underaged". However she phrased it in the worst way possible...hopefully the backlash against it will prevent future poor wording of signs...	/r/MensRights	24/05/13 05:33 PM
0	Question: Fathers-to-be "opting out" of parenthood and the potential ethics behind it It isn't always a choice thing - in some places you still cannot have an abortion. Religiously it might be completely out of the question as well. The point of child support is that it lets the father not be a parent while making sure the kid grows up well. Whether the mother's moral or legal bounds are unfair isn't really in the question here...she is being less unfair than a father who not only chooses not to be a parent (fair enough) but does not want to be bothered (no, not abled - that is a…	/r/MensRights	21/05/13 12:28 PM
1	Question: Fathers-to-be "opting out" of parenthood and the potential ethics behind it Probably will get downvoted to hell on this, but oh well. It's an opinion. Men should be allowed to have paternity tests on all children, however I do not think he should be able to sign off all obligations to a child he didn't want...because that's very unfair for the child. I do think child support should be regulated a bit more so it is just spent ON THE CHILD to prevent women taking advantage of it. You cannot force a woman into a fair choice because that would be unfair - she is usually the…	/r/MensRights	20/05/13 05:14 PM
4	Facts about gender discrimination - infographic with sources Kind of this...women self-harm more than men but they use different methods of suicide. The most common way for a women to try and kill herself is with pills. Most of the pills chosen wouldn't kill you under even a meagre 30 minutes. Some take hours. Men use different methods such as hanging, or shooting themselves. Hanging only really takes 5 minutes maximum (if done properly, otherwise up to 20 minutes. Normal time taken is 3 minutes) which leaves a very small time frame for this to be prevent…	/r/MensRights	19/05/13 01:45 PM
2	Would prosecuting false rape accusers according to a harsher set of rules not lead to said accusers to maintain the lie as opposed to 'fessing up, thus leading to more victims of false accusations rem The worst part is how the victims are dealt with - because it is completely in the favour of a false accuser. People I know who have actually been raped had an aweful time with the police and dropped the charges as soon as they could because just a day or a few hours after the rape they have to recount everything to several different people...who don't really care. They ask what they were wearing and all that other victim-blaming shit...doesn't exactly help, does it? Leads to less actual victims…	/r/MensRights	16/05/13 09:56 PM
1	Do you believe Misandry is a global problem, or a Western one? Have you ever lived there yourself, then? You asked if I spoke from actual experience outside of the internet and news. I have told you I do. Now you are attempting to blow off what you wanted to hear as insignificant so I suppose it is up to you want you actually want to know.	/r/MensRights	03/05/13 03:56 PM
1	A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On - Thoughts on this?! You said upper-middle class. If you meant both upper and middle class women didnt work then this is just saying (as I did) most married women werent in the work force. Being married doesn't make you middle class at all. A minority for one type of occupation "industrial". But again you didnt show if these were single women or married women. I can already explain women in the workforce because they were single. My point was at the start of the industrial revolution there were gender roles in marri…	/r/MensRights	02/05/13 10:07 PM
0	A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On - Thoughts on this?! I'm not sure how you do that whole quote thing so I'll just have bullet pointed answers (without bullet points..huzzah!) I did say women in the middle class did not work as they had the money not to. Women being outnumbered is expected, however in only 3 to 1 that is a fairly large minority. I don't like your attitude here: "Despite feminists insisting on there being a barrier to entry, that women could not gain employment doing whatever the hell they wanted to... employment records show largely…	/r/MensRights	02/05/13 07:12 PM
0	A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On - Thoughts on this?! According to a Senate report: in 1820 10% of industrial employees were female. In 1850 this was a quarter. From census': in 1870 women were present in over three-quarters of occupations (all but 76 out of 338). The Census Bureau in 1900, the overall percentage of women workers had risen to one out of five (but this is probably due to the rise of office jobs and shit). This is for jobs in general however. Labour work wasn't common for women to do as it was "untraditional". However: "The wage labo…	/r/MensRights	02/05/13 06:30 PM
1	Do you believe Misandry is a global problem, or a Western one? I lived in Cairo for 6 years, my father's side of the family is lebanese and both of my parents lived in saudi arabia for a very long period of time. I know from what they tell me and from visiting my family that lives over there. I do not watch the news' opinion on this as it is very "terroristy". EDIT: Adding that visiting doesn't even fully cover the real experience, as westerners in these places do not have to completely abide by the rule. For instance, when my mother lived there (my father …	/r/MensRights	02/05/13 05:56 PM
-5	A List of “Men’s Rights” Issues That Feminism Is Already Working On - Thoughts on this?! This is mostly incorrect. Unless the family was upper-middle class the wives would also have to take up work and were paid substantially less while also working in bad conditions.	/r/MensRights	01/05/13 10:52 PM
1	It's time our society stopped demonizing male sexuality. Eh. I would expect no less from an iPod keypad. Nice you choose to address that instead of the content. Very 2008.	/r/MensRights	29/04/13 10:59 PM
2	It's time our society stopped demonizing male sexuality. I certainly don't want y boobs looked at but despite the fact i wear hugh necked shirts and hoodies guys still stare at my chest. I have yet to see a woman do it and i don't oogle the crotches of men... Im not against some one having a small peep because hile its uncomfortable they are being discreet. But staring or conplimentig them when I don't know you/the person is NOT a complimet and doesn't make me feels attractive in yhe slightest. It's unfair for you to just say I should just enjoy it as…	/r/MensRights	28/04/13 09:02 AM
1	Objectification: A false assumption about alternatives? Well I can remember about 80% of my compliments from being young containing the word "pretty" or "beautiful" while my brothers were told how good they were at sports or how funny/smart they were. Sports and being "strong"/"handsome" was used around 50% of the time. It wasn't because my parents were sexist people or anything - they valued us all the same and put us in good schools but being smart was only a factor considered important when I was aged 12 and onwards. I had worked hard before that …	/r/MensRights	25/04/13 03:32 PM
1	Do you believe Misandry is a global problem, or a Western one? But in certain middle-eastern countries women have much worse rights than men. In Saudi Arabia women are treated abhorrently. There is no misandry there.	/r/MensRights	24/04/13 07:20 PM
1	Peter Lloyd to MRAs: "Women-only gym sessions are not part of a feminist plot." Well I found one in my area after less than a minute of googling http://muscleworksgym.co.uk/ It's men-only - women are only allowed into the reception as explained http://www.nickmitchellblog.com/muscleworks-gym-london-bodybuilding-mecca/	/r/MensRights	24/04/13 05:55 PM
2	Objectification: A false assumption about alternatives? If you speak in generalisations it becomes right to say all MRAs are woman-hating scum who don't get any; black people are all criminals; white people are oppressive dirt who get off on treating people like crap; jews are money-thieving assholes; chinese people can't drive and only ever do maths...men are just walking penises carrying wallets who never think about anything but sex. You can't speak in massive generalisations unless you're pretty content with being generalised yourself...it doesn'…	/r/MensRights	24/04/13 05:13 PM
1	Objectification: A false assumption about alternatives? Hmm. When you are young you should note the difference in compliments boys and girls get. Boy's get "you're so smart!"; "you're so funny!"...sometimes "strong boy!" but usually it is about them as a person. Girls are told how "pretty" they are constantly. "What a pretty girl you are!" is a rather popular example. I think that's where the objectification comes from, and nowadays in the media (unless it's a comedy in which men are sometimes made out to be drooling morons) a lot of emphasis is put …	/r/MensRights	24/04/13 04:42 PM
1	Peter Lloyd to MRAs: "Women-only gym sessions are not part of a feminist plot." There are plenty of male-only gyms. Google to find one in your area.	/r/MensRights	23/04/13 07:05 PM
-2	Peter Lloyd to MRAs: "Women-only gym sessions are not part of a feminist plot." Men are allowed to have men-only gyms and male-only hours.	/r/MensRights	23/04/13 04:29 PM
1	UK abuse adverts in the UK are incredibly one sided. I suppose. Only thing about having a penis up the vagina is the vagina has a bit of elasticity to it if the woman was moist (I'm guessing she would be as it would be unpleasant for her too) so I don't really see it hurting too much relatively unless there was something up there like a "rape condom" to rip up the penis...in which case it's still kind of sexual assault just it's in something else. Though depending on the circumstances it could be emotionally scarring like how old the male is. I ca…	/r/MensRights	23/04/13 04:12 PM
1	UK abuse adverts in the UK are incredibly one sided. How do sexual assault punishments match up to rape ones? If htey are about the same then it is justified I suppose since a women can't shove her vagina up a man's arse or a woman's arse but can do "sexual assault" where she mutilates his genitals or shoves foreign objects up there and such. Are the crimes equal or disproportionate? Edited to make "he" into "she" here "she mutilates his genitals" so it makes sense.	/r/MensRights	21/04/13 11:11 PM
1	UK abuse adverts in the UK are incredibly one sided. They also have a section on what to do if you are a boy being abused my your girlfriend.	/r/MensRights	21/04/13 11:03 PM
1	UK abuse adverts in the UK are incredibly one sided. Check the "FAQ". They have a section for male abuse victims. "You’d probably be surprised to know how many boys suffer from abuse in their relationships – many more than society leads us to think. The fact is that 1 in 6 boys will experience some form of sexual abuse and often this is from someone just a few years older than them and with who they are in a relationship. It doesn’t matter if it’s sexual, physical or emotional, abuse is wrong, and it’s never the victim’s fault. We live in a societ…	/r/MensRights	21/04/13 10:54 PM