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but at a certain point it seems exhausting and a little pathetic. "Men don't get slut-shamed"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:53 AM
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Male friends are far less parasitic than women are TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:51 AM
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Not if u stay attractive If it was that easy everyone would be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:31 AM
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that basically says height (along with musclesface) FTFY Do you think women find harry styles, Tom cruise, Leo DiCaprio, Timothy chálamet etc hot "Just be an A-list Hollywood celebrity bro" Also, people mainly see these men on a big screen and not IRL, and they often wear shoe lifts. That's why their height matters less. It doesn't mean your date won't ask about or notice your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:03 AM
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you can't throw a hissy fit when someone provides evidence against the claim Cherry picking does not make for very convincing evidence. And women have been slaves for most of human history. Flat out untrue What does this have to do with the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:41 PM
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" All women are queens , if she breathes she's a thot" That video is legendary This " inherent disgust " men speak of For virtually all of human existence maternity was certain and paternity wasn't. Males evolved to avoid wifing up thots because those that did got cucked and didn't reproduce. There's a matriarchal culture called the Mosuo "Yeah bro let me cherry pick literally one extremely unique culture"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:58 PM
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"I'm not complaining about their attraction I'm complaining about their action" What a cop out. Is there something wrong with dating people you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:42 PM
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No one complains about that tbh. You say this, and two sentences later... Its only an issue when ancient old guys with moldy sperm try and target women with much less life experience for purely selfish reasons. You complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:38 PM
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No one complains about that tbh. You say this, and two sentences later... Its only an issue when ancient old guys with moldy sperm try and target women with much less life experience for purely selfish reasons. You complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:38 PM
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No one complains about that tbh. You say this, and two sentences later... Its only an issue when ancient old guys with moldy sperm try and target women with much less life experience for purely selfish reasons. You complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:37 PM
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Women saying "kill all men," while in poor taste Understatement of the century. It's an incredibly vitriolic thing to say. men actually kill women. (70% of people killed by an intimate partner are women). So by your own admission, 30% are men? Why is that relevant anyways, virtually all men will never kill a woman in their lives. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvv.pdf Most research indicates that women perpetrate IPV at similar or higher rates than men, and are more likely to instigate phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:00 AM
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Same here, she resented him a lot because she came from money and my dad didn't. They fought over money a lot and ultimately it's what ended their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:52 AM
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Counterpoint: being horny leads to desperation and simping.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/23 07:10 PM
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Even if we accept the most charitable studies which put the genders of perpetrators at roughly 50/50 Research indicates that women are more likely to instigate domestic violence: Women's violence is predicted by past violence more so than men's. Women who use violence are more consistently violent throughout their various relationships, whereas men who use violence are not. This indicates that women are probably more likely to instigate violence and men are more likely to use violence defensivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:40 AM
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Her body her choice, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:55 AM
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Getting what you want is not "controlling" unless what you want is to control and restrict your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:23 AM
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My sister is one of them. The internet calls them "pick me's" because they desperately try to get picked by men, but men largely ignore them. Has your sister ever been asked out? If she has then she has already gotten more attention from the opposite sex than many men do. asking the men around their opinions on whether or not she was a "catch" and listed all of the stereotypical things that manosphere men claim to want. None of the men in the bar at the time were interested in dating her? Oh, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:41 PM
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Yes next question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:35 PM
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"Women can't tell if a guy is violent and abusive but we can tell if you saw one post in a incel forum three years ago teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:34 PM
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The point is that the more agreeable your partner is, the less you'll have to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:51 PM
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Why "males" and "women"? childcare, domestic labor, and other relationship tasks that males do no do in relationship. You could pay a nanny to do all that for 7-15 dollars an hour
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:18 PM
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I'm referring to a specific demographic of people who are blatantly in denial about their sexual, romantic, and emotional preference in other men. So many armchair psychologists around here. What makes you think that they are closeted homosexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:13 PM
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Heterosexual women are complaining that they have to bring in half the income or more of the income This is very rarely the case. Married men outearn married women by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:12 PM
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The whole point is that if your partner is more agreeable then you can have your way more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:05 PM
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If I ever have a kid I'd want to it to be a clone of me. We could be like Jango and Boba Fett from Star Wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:05 AM
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women complaining about "emotional labor" be like:
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:00 AM
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sigma males don't eat pussy 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:59 AM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:59 AM
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Because in a normal relationship, you don't get to "win" ever time. I want to have my way as much as possible, is it that hard to grasp? Don't most people want the same thing? Like by definition, you want to "win".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:49 AM
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Again, in this case he brought it up for a good reason. He reversed the sexes in the situation to make a point about how shaming men for not meeting women's standards is objectionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:03 AM
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If someone is talking specifically about abusive men (a story of someone’s past abuse, a story of women protecting themselves, etc.) then it serves no purpose to talk about abusive women because that’s not the topic of conversation. Abuse by a specific man? Sure. Complaining about abusive men in general? It's absolutely relevant because there's no good reason to single out men specifically. This is why I'm asking you for examples. And "find them yourself" isn't going to cut it. So this is the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:32 AM
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Can you give examples of this alleged phenomenon? We have no idea what this is being used in response to. For instance, if someone complains about men being physically abusive, it makes sense to point out that women instigate violence against their partners at similar or higher rates. Because if women do it too and do it often, why single out and criticize men specifically? That was just an example. Women who complain about being single are told by the public to lower their standards and hit the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:18 AM
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Why are most men so obsessed with a wet, fleshy, hole?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:41 PM
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There aren't enough highly desirable men for every woman to have one to herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:08 AM
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Why do women on PPD always like to appeal to our mothers when guys talk shit about women. It's so dumb. Like get back to me after you have doctors cut open your belly to give birth to me and then raise me for 18+ years. I certainly don't think my mom's a saint and many of the things I say about women could be applicable to her as well. People who view their family members as saints by virtue of their familial ties are delusional. That doesn't change the fact that I love her because of what she's…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:31 AM
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Risk by definition is the chance of something undesirable happening. You should read some psychological papers on the pleasures of taking risks. The thrill associated with taking a risk can be desirable, yes, but not the risk itself. If you're skydiving the risk is that both your chutes fail and you go splat, who would consider that desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:22 AM
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Two of them were and two of them weren't. AF/BB is about different levels of attraction to different men. The crux of AF/BB is women being in relationships with men to take advantage of them as opposed to being with them out of genuine attraction. If a woman chooses to stay in a relationship with a guy she's not attracted to because of what he does for her, that's betabuxxing regardless of how she used to feel in the past. And also, hormones like oxytocin, dopamine, and serotonin are released in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:17 AM
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If your approach is to make it as safely to death as you can, then i support you in avoiding every slight chance of something unpleasant happening This isn't a "slight chance". Taking risks is what makes life good, for most people. Second dumbest thing I've read today. Risk is by definition undesirable. People take risks because things associated with the risks may be desirable. I am emotionally resilient. I know my life goes on after a potential break up or cheating. My point is, why bother inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:11 AM
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Their sociosexuality may result in them being less satisfied in a monogamous relationships, so the same thing can happen(reduced sexual desire and dead bedroom). Or worse, they might cheat. I think it's better to just avoid anything serious with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:33 AM
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Lol this comment is so dumb. The point is most women are like this, there are only so many consistently "high libido" women out there. Men don't exactly have their pick of the litter, people's behaviors can change, and women all too often use their sexuality to manipulate men and get what they want from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:53 AM
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He stopped pursuing her. That's just a baseless assumption on your part. And moreover my focus is on the research not the anecdotes. He’s not a fat, gluttonous blob One of the studies exclusively sampled 18-25 year olds, well before significant age-related weight gain occurs. And women gain more weight and fat with age compared to men. Y'all are throwing stones from a glass house. Ah. So she’s putting in effort. He’s not. Funny that. Are women purchasing these products for themselves(vibrators f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:56 AM
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Regardless of whether your characterization of PPD men is accurate or not, it's not relevant to anything I said. You're just going off on some dumb tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:37 AM
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Sure, you can control women but that comes at a cost to you and to her. Who said anything about "controlling" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:29 AM
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There do seem to be various ways to mitigate this loss of female libido in an LTR. Better to just avoid them altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:14 AM
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Said the 'alpha' male... Totally unaware of his indoctrination. Don't put words in my mouth. studies are pivotal in success or failure of understanding research, and filtering the good from the bad in order to further the field you're in. You say this one sentence. Again, please take time out from the manosphere and live a little. Your world view and beliefs will be shattered. And in the very next you reject science in favor of empty platitudes like "just experience life more bro". Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:05 AM
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Just like your paywalled article which takes one study Can you read? The article referred to four separate studies I'm just your average Joe who's happy with his place in life. I don't subscribe to all these right wing cultish rhetorics and terminologies like AF/BB. If you said those words in the real world you'd get laughed at. Frankly, the "average joe" is retarded generally rejects science unless institutions force feed it to him has no idea what they're talking about on esoteric topics like …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:52 AM
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That's the conclusion she came to yes. Seeing as how the writer isn't a co-author of any of those research papers, nor is she an academic in the field, and that other research indicates that women are not very interested in promiscuity and sexual variety, I'm not really putting much stock into her conclusions. I'm linking the article because it's a good compilation of sources on the link between relationship duration and sexual desire. And either way, it doesn't change the fact that dead bedroom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:48 AM
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Why do men in the manosphere discuss all these topics when they haven't even had a full on relationship with a woman? Why are you assuming that? And what does that have to do with the research presented? It's far too easy to spot those who are lacking experience. Are you god? Are you omniscient?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:25 AM
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Click my hyperlink again it links to a paywall evader, see the article for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:21 AM
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Nah, at least hookers are honest and upfront about the transactional nature of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:21 AM
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Even if that was the case, then LTRs would be a bad idea for ANY man. Not just less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:20 AM
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this man a printer cuz he spitting fax
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:18 AM
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There was no paywall for me, and others apparently, and I quoted them directly, word for word. Why would I lie when people can easily see it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:17 AM
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If you had read the post you would know that one of them did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:11 AM
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Well Martin can believe what she likes, but she didn't co-author any of these papers, nor is she an academic, nor does she have anything in the way of empirical evidence to substantiate her beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:07 AM
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Nope. When you date someone who is actually attracted to you, sex doesn't drop off. However because of social pressures and societal expectations men and women will stay in relationships where they are unhappy out of convenience. Women in short-term relationships have a higher sex drive. Men in LTRs still have a high sex drive. Also, you don't really feel like fucking if you're both working two jobs to pay rent I der late stage capitalism. The vast majority of people do not work two jobs. Men wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:04 AM
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Maybe they were before they moved in with them and had to nag them to pick up their dirty socks and do the dishes? What's wrong with doing a little more housework? How often do men nag women they're living with for making less than them? That explanation seems unlikely, one of the studies found that controlled for kids which are a lot of work, and found that it had no impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:02 AM
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I don't find that explanation convincing, women are far less promiscuous and interested in sexual variety than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:49 AM
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If you had bothered to read the post, you would know that the authors of these studies controlled for many of the factors you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:41 AM
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JFL only 6 years for being an accessory to murder. And PPD w*men will still deny that female privilege exists.....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:45 AM
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That's very reminiscent of conservative attitudes on motherhood, sex, and abortion.....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:34 AM
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Many of you guys here are absolutely incapable of envisioning a society that isn't patriarchal. Virtually every single known human society was "patriarchal" to some extent. Even societies where women enjoyed significant personal freedom tended to be led by men, like pre-Islamic Egypt or the Haudenosaunee Confederation for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:59 AM
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I found the parts about women finding fatherly attributes, and actions instead of words, to be very attractive to be very enlightening for me. You're a fool if you take peoples words on camera at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:51 AM
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sigma males don't eat pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:21 AM
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Let's be real here, my man probably doesn't want to lose customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:19 AM
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What the hell is your point? Why are you so obsessed with his mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:51 AM
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Stop twisting his words. He never complained about unrelated women not being as good to him as his mom. He said that women rarely or never do favors for unrelated men, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:48 AM
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No it doesn't? He specified that he's talking about the vast majority of women that are unrelated to him. Obviously most mothers do a lot for their sons by virtue of their kinship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:44 AM
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The CDC is defining "sexual violence" extremely broadly. From the references section: • Completed or attempted forced penetration of a victim • Completed or attempted alcohol/drug-facilitated penetration of a victim • Completed or attempted forced acts in which a victim is made to penetrate a perpetrator or someone else • Completed or attempted alcohol/drug-facilitated acts in which a victim is made to penetrate a perpetrator or someone else • Non-physically forced penetration which occurs after…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:37 AM
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I think this comment is dumb and overexaggerated, most people regardless of their sex or sexual desires would much rather live in a comfortable house than a cardboard box.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:32 AM
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I hold a door open for a man This shit is so trivial though, like it takes virtually no time or effort it's just a nice gesture. When people say that women exploit their sexuality to get guys to do favors for them we're not talking about that. We're talking about things like helping them move, or helping them with schoolwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:31 AM
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They forget where they come from. A woman risked her life for 9 months for them to be here. "In years, no random woman outside my family has ever done anything significant for me" Bruh can you read? This is literally in the first line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:29 AM
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Have you asked any self-identified incels if they talk to women or if they've ever asked out a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:56 AM
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I don't view sex workers negatively. They're upfront and honest about the transaction. Their customers know what they're getting into. Whereas arguably a lot of "normal" women manipulate and deceive men they don't like that much into marrying them to take advantage of them financially. That's a lot worse in my book, because these guys are kept in the dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:44 AM
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Men age better than women but definitely not "like wine". Balding and fat gain are still issues for men, albeit more easily fixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:35 AM
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There is no way that most Nigerians are anywhere near as wealthy or educated as the average Nigerian immigrant to the US is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:34 AM
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Every woke asian woman with a white boyfriend be like:
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:53 AM
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I don't think non-western women are only ever interested in western men for the money. Take Asian women for instance, something like half of US-born Asian women marry white women. I genuinely think many Asian women find white men as attractive if not more attractive than Asian men. If nothing else they are at least taller and hairier. Take a 5'6" white American guy who's short back home. He wouldn't be considered short in the Philippines, and unlike most Filipino guys if he has a bad lower face …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:47 AM
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Isn't it interesting that Nigerian immigrants seem to do so well? The US immigration system heavily selects for the best and the brightest. Nigerian immigrants to the US are the cream of the crop in their home country. They're not representative of the typical Nigerian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:41 AM
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I'm AM and I can't blame women in good faith for having racial preferences. People of different racial/ethnic backgrounds do indeed look different and act different, and people like what they like. But I do wish they would be more honest about it and not gaslight us just to try and preserve their own reputation and image. Which they do all too often. So many poor Asian dudes think there's something wrong with them because they can't get a date, they need to know that they're perfectly normal guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:38 AM
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This talking point provides a convincing reason for praising men who are "studs" but doesn't provide a convincing reason for shaming women who are "sluts". I certainly don't admire sluts the same way I admire studs, but I don't have anything against sluts either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:33 AM
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https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SG.GEN.PARL.ZS?locations=UA According to the world bank a fifth of Ukrainian elected representatives are female. And it's not as if male lawmakers weren't elected in part by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:31 AM
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That's besides the point. He never accused anyone specifically of virtue signaling. But the fact is that the overwhelming majority of research on this topic indicates that most women have a very strong preference for taller men. But at the same time whenever the topic games so many women deny or downplay it. Chances are that a significant number of them arejust virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:22 AM
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You can't use "data" to prove that any single woman is lying about her preferences. He never said that every single woman who claimed they don't strongly prefer tall men is lying. Take your strawman and shove it up your fat smelly cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:19 AM
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I don't think chinky eyes are feminine looking tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:10 AM
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the data doesn't lie FR
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:07 AM
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"just be an A-list celebrity bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:07 AM
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It never even began for neuteredcels JFL
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:03 AM
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Not for relationships, and CERTAINLY not for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:43 PM
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It loads fine for me dumbass, sounds like you just have a bum ass pc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:43 PM
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You didn't even fucking read it retard, the dataset ends in 2018.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:16 PM
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IDK what planet you're living on, women still feel as entitled to commitment as ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:15 PM
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I never said you claimed to be Asian. But you talk like you understand what it's like for us when you don't. You don't understand the reality of the situation in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:43 PM
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Me personally? I'm decent looking so I haven't had the need to do a lot in that respect. There are a lot of things men in general can do to improve their appearance. Shoe lifts for height boost Anti acne treatment Anti balding treatment Growing a beard to conceal bad lower third Losing fat for a more defined face Building muscle by lifting(generic and kinda overrated but probably helps) Plastic surgery(if you have the $$$) etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:43 PM
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That I count as long term. Imma say maybe one How many monogamous sexual relationships? He wasn’t a chad he was a literal physics nerd https://preview.redd.it/jkfb2zock59a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1b07c2001015fdbae9a75e087856e0b85d78e635
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:39 PM
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You're not Asian, you don't get it, stop pretending like you do. Half of US-born Asian women marry non-Asian(mostly white) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:34 PM
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you spend your prime years slaving over another human and gaining weight That's a silly excuse. Just put the fork down lardass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:31 PM
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Now it’s different because I get rejected for not wanting causal sex. How many relationships have you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:27 PM
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Left one supposed to be an insulting caricature? Cuz you failed if it was. Mr. Incredibly is pretty chaddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:26 PM
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Unfortunately it's rather hard to correct being short of having poor facial structure. And women are brutally selective in these respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:21 PM
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men have more sexual partners over their lifetime than women Men report a higher mean number of sexual partners. Mathematically the mean number of opposite-sex sexual partners for men and women must be similar. The male and female populations are roughly equal and every time a man has a new opposite-sex sexual partner, a woman does as well. Also, the statistical mean is strongly affected by inequality. Most men could have fewer sexual partners than the mean number if a minority of men have a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:15 PM
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She’s quite happy to live her life, cats and all, waiting for a man she likes. Seeing how much women bitch at men for not committing and "stringing them along", I really doubt that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:04 PM
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I value what I learned from college. Men don't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:54 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of advice. People's lives are too unique. A lot of advice is universally applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:54 PM
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I was talking about combined. Black women are a small minority, white and Asian women combined are a significant majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:28 AM
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No need to be rude I wasn't. You claimed that "white men are exactly in black women's league", I disagree because there are man things that make black women less desirable than other women. Why say it at all if you're not willing to receive pushback? This is a debate subreddit after all. because you’re European man I'm not. Why would you assume that. BW earn less but are more likely to have a degree. No they're not, I literally just linked an article with data from the ACS showing that black wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:27 AM
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Most crime is intra racial. Because the US has de facto racial segregation. White people generally don't live in neighborhoods where there are a lot of black people. In part due to the (generally correct) perception that these neighborhoods are dangerous. Most crime is intra racial precisely BECAUSE of racial profiling. If you're walking around in the hood do you think a mugger would spare you because you're white? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:55 AM
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The guy on the right is not providing any substantive advice, just encouragement. No amount of encouragement will correct being short or having an ugly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:51 AM
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Are you sure it's the same guys saying these things🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:50 AM
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I don’t think so at all, I think white men are exactly in black women’s league. All BW I know This demonstrates why basing your worldview off of personal experience is brain dead. You are presumably a middle class black woman who hangs out with other middle class black women so you think black women in general are like your social circle. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Statistically black women earn less and are less likely to have a degree compared to other women. Also black women…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:42 AM
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They’re mainly talking about white and Asian women standards which in comparison to BW are high (which I don’t think is a bad thing). There are far more White and Asian women than black women. Why would they focus on the behavior of a minority of women instead of the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:39 AM
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30s is usually peak for men TBH. Your face becomes leaner and more masculine and your facial hair has filled out completely so guys with subpar lower faces can beardmaxx to cover it up. Guys who could bag young hot chicks when they were young probably still can, and some guys who couldn't will have glowed up and stand a better chance of doing so. There's also money, of course it's not genuine attraction but some guys don't care and it still helps you get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:36 AM
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Sugar babies don't always have sex with sugar daddies so it's not always the same FYI. But when they do I agree it's pretty similar, the only difference is how explicit the transaction is. She went on a whole rant talking about how every relationship is basically a transaction She raises an interesting point. Most women expect some level of provision from men they're in relationships with. Does that make most women prostitutes? 🤔🤔🤔 One Brazilian user on the PPD discord argues that they are lol. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:45 AM
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She better be in an oppressive country or a cult for me to believe that bullshit. This absolutely happens to women in the west if their family is from a conservative immigrant background. You don't need to have a gun held to your head to succumb to family pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:40 AM
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Can women cheat if their husbands are away? Everyone needs intimacy, right? What about if your partner is ill or disabled, okay to cheat then? My post was not about "need". It was about cheating because you are stuck in a relationship you don't want to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:36 AM
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Neither do they, according to terp dogma, if you’re right that it universally opposes marriage. Are you fucking illiterate? I've already said it, you realize that someone can discover TRP after getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:35 AM
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Especially if the other person spent all this unpaid labor and time taking care of the breadwinner, the breadwinner's house, and the breadwinner's children. Why u assuming they have kids? They just wasted all that time doing labor for you in a marriage that didn't even work. They were financially supported during the marriage lol. I highly doubt they're getting paid enough to actually make up a decent wage for all the hours they spent. Housekeepers and nannies usually cost <$15 an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:33 AM
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Stop calling anything that is not rape rape. No, I don't think I will. It's a figure of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:30 AM
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rationalizing cheating is stupid. What about a woman who was pressured into a marriage with someone she didn't like by her conservative family and would be disowned if she divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:30 AM
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The time spent with the affair partner? Insignificant compared to being divorce raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:48 AM
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Yeah but women don't outearn their husbands very often lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:47 AM
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That's not something tangible like money is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:36 AM
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Lol imagine thinking because a man works and has a stay-at-home wife raising their kids Why are you assuming that they have kids lol. And even if they have kids why would assume that she's putting in that much effort. Kids are in school most weekdays starting from age 5/6 at the latest. Earlier if you enroll your kids in kindergarten and preschool, which most parents do. "SAHMs" are overhyped. For a group that insists on demonizing women who seek higher-earning partners I never have. Don't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:35 AM
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You don't lose anything when your partner cheats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:32 AM
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Then don't get married. "Don't take out predatory loans" "Don't sign an indentured servitude contract" Besides, marriage isn't like other contracts in that the government can change the conditions at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:32 AM
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rather than pretending to love her and cheating. It's easy for you to say that they should take the high road when you have nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:28 AM
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They should just get a divorce. As if getting a divorce is like getting a haircut. It's very expensive and they have a lot to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:15 AM
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OFC it matters lol. The fact that some redpillers got married before finding TRP and try to make the best of their situation has no bearing on whether TRP is against marriage or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:16 AM
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Nah. She’d be a lying asshole. Most young people don't only date one person at a time these days lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:02 PM
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If that person is married and trying to step out they owe it to that person to disclose that they're married. Not sure I agree TBH. The bigger fish to fry would be the fact that they're cheating on their current partner. And I don't see how that's relevant to the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:54 PM
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r/marriedredpill is primarily for guys who discovered TRP after they had already gotten married. Most of them don't think marriage is good and wouldn't advise it either, their community is for advice on how to make the most of their situation. None of the terps on here so claim to be married actually are? Again, did they get married before or after they discovered TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:49 PM
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How about all the TRP men who state they’re specifically looking for a low-n tradwife? In the past few years there has been an influx of some incels, tradcons, JP fanboys, etc, into the subreddit. But the core of the community is overwhelmingly against marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:48 PM
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there is a default assumption that person is single. Single =/= Looking for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:44 PM
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Not saying anything is not dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:43 PM
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I'm talking about western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:43 PM
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My opinion would be, have whatever standard or preference you have (that isn’t based on looks) as long as you hold yourself to the same standards. "I want a girl with big tits so I better start taking estrogen and grow huge tittes myself" This kind of logic is dumb. Men and women are different. Men and women value and seek different traits in partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:59 AM
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Reads like a comment from a bitter old lady lol. They're doing it to exploit innocence because innocence lacks boundaries, teeth, and cunning. You say that as if these are necessarily good or desirable things. As you yourself highlight, they're seeking someone easily impressed. Which suggests they aren't impressive. Which suggests they know this woman could do better, but they're trying to catch her before she knows that What exactly is wrong with this? Why do you think it's your place to police…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:56 AM
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Women don't call any guy they disagree with "TRP" challenge(IMPOSSIBLE 100% FAIL RATE). TRP is overwhelmingly against marriage and constantly advocates against it. You'd know that if you actually read it instead of making up dumb strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:48 AM
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No one is labeling dudes who get laid that aren’t being manipulative as malicious. I've definitely heard of it happen. Women start sleeping with guys and assume that he's interested in a relationship and are pissed when he isn't, or at least not with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:27 AM
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there's a tendency for women to assume that you're interested in a relationship Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. Regardless it's coming from a place on entitlement and it's a problematic attitude. You and I both know the reason you don't bring it up is because if you did she would probably stop sleeping with you, hence you are intentionally misleading her. Not intentionally shooting yourself in the foot is not "misleading people". If a woman with a body count of 50+ told that to every…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:24 AM
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Neither is women accepting dates, gifts etc from men who court them whilst "forgetting" Sure. And considering your FDS flair you probably actually feel this way, and are not just using it to try and one up me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:23 AM
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The teacher and student already know what kind of relationship they have. And you should know that if you sleep with someone, the relationship you have is sexual partners. Not girlfriend/boyfriend. If I have an STD and don't tell you, am I not an asshole just because you didn't ask? You'd be an asshole because you're knowingly exposing others to harmful disease, not because you're lying. People lead people on If men don't say anything to indicate that they want a relationship with you then they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:22 AM
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A student and a teacher have a relationship. Neighbors have a relationship. Do you share everything about yourself with your teacher or your neighbor? There type of relationship is every bit her business. Then ask about it. Not saying something isn't dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:35 AM
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you think “condemnation” is worse than “disgust.” The former implies that the other party is guilty of wronging others the latter does not. For instance, people condemn rapists. People are disgusted by scat fetishists. but society isn’t firing men who don’t want commitment or trying to pass morality-based legislation to “punish” studs. What legal restrictions on female sexual behavior exist in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:34 AM
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But they're not in a relationship yet LMAO they're not a "thing" yet they're just two people who've slept together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:31 AM
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Just because a guy sleeps around doesn't mean he isn't open to relationships. The fact that a guy is open to relationships doesn't mean he will want one with every woman he sleeps with. Not telling everyone you meet that you're only looking for something casual isn't dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:30 AM
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In fact, strategically not declaring his intentions is an asshole thing to do. If she wants to know she can ask. His preferences and future plans aren't her business.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:29 AM
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There is a post or thread here about “high n count women bad!!! Don’t marry!” This is saying that promiscuous women are bad candidates for marriage, not as bad as promiscuous men being characterized as malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:26 AM
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or the guy just doesn't say anything regarding relationships and the woman feels entitled to one because ?????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:38 PM
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People care if they treat the women they sleep with like shit just because they don't want a relationship with them (e.g. "pump and dump). It's not the promiscuity that society judges, it's the assholery. The problem is that people define sleeping with a woman and rejecting a relationship with her as "treating her like shit" and "pumping and dumping". Male promiscuity is being defined as "assholery".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:39 PM
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and men who obfuscate their intentions What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:38 PM
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"he's an asshole", "he treats women like objects and discards us after he's done", "he exploits and uses us for our bodies", etc You've never seen promiscuous men be criticized this way? You've NEVER seen women be bitter towards men they slept with because they don't want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:57 PM
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Materialist Dating Ideology Extremes Just FDS really. They're the ones telling women to be gold-diggers. None of the major manosphere communities are telling guys to be gold diggers. Stop trying to always make things "muh both-sides". "Low value", "high value", "level up" Again, just FDS really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:55 PM
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Stereotypes usually aren't made out of whole cloth, and have some basis in truth. It's a fact that men are more oriented towards shorter-term sexual relationships and that women are more oriented towards longer-term sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:29 PM
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like not ever getting married This is arguably the single best piece of advice TRP has to offer. If you could only take one thing away from TRP it should be this. Something like half of all marriages end in divorce. Men, especially men who get married, make much more than women do. Why would you risk your assets and wealth by getting married? Prenups are far from ironclad and judges throw them out all the time for silly reasons. And financial reasons aside, I think there's merit to the RP belief…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:23 PM
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When it comes to sex relations and attitudes towards women, black men are definitely the most "red-pilled" of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:06 PM
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Men might not be unemployed for a year straight but everyone goes through periods of unemployment if they get laid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:07 PM
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And your second point is because women will take time off to have babies and be mothers and support their partners. Most kids go to preschool or kindergarten by the time they're three or four. And your second point is because women will take time off to have babies and be mothers and support their partners. Even young women earn less than young men, and I seriously doubt that a year or so of maternity leave is going to cripple a woman's career. It's no different than men being unemployed for a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:28 PM
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But the wife is basically on call or actively working 168 a week This is some of the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. SAHMs are not working 24/7, far from it. Kids are in school seven hours a day, five days a week, eight months a year. Kids DO NOT require constant supervision when they're not in school. Modern appliances make many household tasks such as dishes and laundry a breeze. Even vacuuming is pretty fast. To support this, the article discussed how, even among women who work, there is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:19 PM
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FYI fellas you can just freeze your sperm before getting a vasectomy. It costs a few hundred dollars a year to store it. Not a bad deal for almost foolproof permanent contraception without sacrificing your ability to have kids. Hormonal birth control for women costs about as much per year. Bonus: the sperm will be better quality than if you were to have kids naturally when you're older, which means healthier offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:13 AM
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How do we "choose better partners"? This is usually said in response to women complaining about men they're seeing being disagreeable and/or being unwilling to commit. "Choose better partners" means "select for men who are more agreeable and/or more willing to commit". Unfortunately these men also tend to be less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:54 PM
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Calling that "sexual assault" seems hyperbolic, but I agree that she was being a bit pushy. I looked for the post in your comments and he didn't deserve to condemned the way he was because he didn't like what she did.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 09:25 PM
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I'm not sure I'd even regard stealthing as "rape" either, but I don't think they're morally comparable. Lying about birth control status doesn't change the physical act itself whereas stealthing does. Lying about birth control is more like lying about age, height, income, etc.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 11:16 AM
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I meant the inverse. When people agree to "make it official", sexual exclusivity is implied virtually all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:57 AM
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Using the term 'boyfriend' most commonly indicates exclusivity but it isn't always the case. For the vast majority of people, when you start referring to each other as BF/GF exclusivity is implied. The same way that it would be for marriage. I chose to use the word "clearly" rather than "explicitly" in the title for a reason. I think a lot of the time people establish exclusivity without explicitly referring to sexual exclusivity, like agreeing to "make it official", or mutually referring each o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:46 AM
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I think it's pretty common for young women to date men significantly older than them once they've graduated college and are no longer always around guys the same age as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:20 AM
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first rule of fight club
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:10 AM
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This disparity is probably partly due to younger women dating older men, and disparities between sexual partners in how seriously they view their relationship(women probably expect exclusivity without it being explicitly defined).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:49 AM
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Source: A man speaking with zero studies and just my own experiences Opinion disregarded 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:45 AM
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and your article proves it (proves my nephew's thing false, fine) Don't treat boys any differently to girls and you will get the same results. It doesn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 12:46 PM
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Science told us that there's a good reason a lot of inmates are black and a lot of black people were slaves... Science is descriptive, is normative. Science itself can explain phenomena but justifying things outside the realm of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 12:19 PM
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Bingo. Being graded more harshly by teachers is pretty antithetical to "getting away with things".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 12:17 PM
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I have a nephew, he hates school, so whenever I read articles about boys lacking behind (I read them in r/MensLib) I often think how my nephew got away with shit since the moment he started walking. That's purely anecdotal. It's hard to study and quantify how parents treat their children, but when it comes to teachers research indicates that teachers discriminate against boys when it comes to grading.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:49 AM
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Is not an important role if people with the same biology behave differently. That doesn't mean biology plays an insignificant role. All that shows is that environment and upbringing also plays a role. Men in prison have testosterone, men in the national theater have testosterone. Some men are more violent than others but there's a good reason that the vast majority of inmates are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:45 AM
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It's not pedantry to make the distinction between a "species" and a gene. They're very different things. And natural selection acts on the latter. Do you realize not realize that animals often compete and kill other individuals of the same "species"? There isn't even a universally agreed upon definition of that term because biodiversity can't be neatly classified.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:44 AM
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Mens dual mating strategy : Lusting after outgoing women/stacies with big tits and butts at full display and then settling for a well-adjusted reserved woman who will make a good mother. This is a false equivalence. The "dual mating strategy" hypothesis is not merely about settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:46 PM
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That's obviously not what he meant by "socially progressive"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:44 PM
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go ahead i'll keep your secret
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:42 PM
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There was no morality then; gendered instincts were part of a system that just worked to continue the species. PPD users don't butcher natural selection one nanosecond challenge(INSTANT FAIL!!!!) Natural selection isn't about the reproductive success of the "species", however you define that. It's about the reproductive success of genes. Genes who are better at reproducing themselves get selected for even at the expensive of the reproductive success of their host organism or the "species" of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:39 PM
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Hence we wouldn't have seen changes in women's behavior with the change in culture. That because women in different cultures behaved differently mean biology doesn't play a role. For instance, men in some societies were more violent than men in other societies but it's a scientific fact that testosterone in men contributes to violent behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 10:33 PM
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Wifey wasn't happy. (Non-working) wifey looked at the finances, and pretty soon he was back in the office, back climbing the IT ladder. They weren't progressing, you see. Home improvements, vacations, better cars. They were falling behind with this blue-collar thing. And wifey (as she told him) "Had never signed up for that." So, back to the office for him, because Wifey wasn't "living her best life." Too many people participate in the "keeping up with the joneses" rat race.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 02:28 AM
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It's rare to see this kind of attitude and self-reflection on Reddit. I respect your open mindedness. For our part, I'm sure people are sick of the hostility towards the MR community and largely unsubstantiated accusations of misogyny. I am as well. But you can clearly see on his profile that the his original post didn't have a hostile tone, he was probably heard these accusations somewhere and mistakenly accepted them at face value. It's important to not be hostile towards these users and drive…
/r/MensRights24/11/22 02:13 AM
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