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i rarely agree with narratives of victimhood promoted by the right. this one is accurate. bigotry against men is bigotry and, not for nothing, has every place on the right, but doesn't on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:01 PM
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"some dude who fucked a goat" the fact that this is virtually certain to have happened thousands of times this year suggests that mayhaps "men will fuck anything" should trigger some introspection, rather than hostile denial, within men lol like i am a pretty average dude who likes them titties and asses but god damn i meet other dudes and am like basically asexual standing next to them, it's fucking wild bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:26 PM
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neither, i want a life partner with whom i can build a shared dream of travel, adventure, and relative self-sustainable living.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:47 PM
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lol shit dude i'm a poor outsider and i'm not even sure I'd take that, even though I think that broadly speaking wealth makes people fucking terrible. it's up to us to make the world we want to live in. unfortunately, we're real slow at it since rich people and conservatives exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:44 PM
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Yup. And broadly speaking women AND men broadly reinforce this talking point. It's socially acceptable even if, when you get right down to it, it's pretty much just body shaming and supposedly "unacceptable" by lefter standards of conduct, but eeeeeeveryone still engages in it and the cynic in me insists that it won't change. Like, I'm not about turbo red pill shit or anything and never will be - I don't have to want to tear down others in pursuit of justice for all - but this is a glaring, blin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:22 PM
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It's like being born in an insanely rich family and be a millionaire and having people "liking" you because you are rich. It doesn't mean a thing and it is lonely. i am pretty sure rich people don't mind it whatsoever. this strikes me as the same sort of cope that dudes engage in when they start veering into "you'll have cats and regrets and nothing else!" BS. rich people are mostly terrible, and live awesome, fulfilling lives. the world isn't just, we live in a cold, amoral universe lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:20 PM
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It's not that we believe everything government officials say, much less anything that politicians say... But we don't automatically believe anything that contradicts the official version. straight up. There's skepticism... and then there's sKePtIcIsM. One takes a principled approach of valuing the output of the scientific method and hears from multiple, independent sources (with, ideally, some international ones)... and then the other just takes some dipshit's youtube poop at uncritical face val…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:43 PM
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I can't believe our societies are stupid enough to let YouTube be censored in China but allow that brain rotter Tiktok to dumb our youth. i live in a country where people thought the vaccine might magnetize you, and a not-insignificant number of people thought that COVID was a hoax. we're cooked. like I think America CAN be exceptional, but unless we do something about the plague of epic dumbassery, we won't be. We need people to believe that, like, air is real at a bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:05 PM
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In most countries in the European Union, I see healthier couples and less money involved. Yes, young men go more to the gym and take care of their skin (which is good for everyone) in order to be more attractive, but at least girls and women don't need to consider health insurance, impossible daycare costs and college funds for future children. bing bing bing i accept that men, as chasers, HAVE to jump through hoops. I don't even object to THAT, I kind of like it. It's my role, whatever. But lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:36 AM
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The one who penetrates and does not do the pregnancy and breastfeeding stuff has to jump through more hoops to be selected. i don't object to this, i object to the number of hoops due to income inequality and social media. i am fully aware that i am impotently bitching here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:34 AM
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No, I agree, that's good money. But my ethics would indeed forbid me from becoming part of that system.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:16 PM
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i'm arguing that we should change that dynamic. we literally can't change attraction. we can change the nature upon which society is predicated - we created that, and not for nothing, but the money and power driven society will literally drive us to extinction if we don't do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:18 PM
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Sure. I'm just arguing we should probably endeavour to reduce the importance of "rich" in that equation, since, of course, most people aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:29 PM
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i mean personally, i would argue there is a great deal more to being monogamously loyal to a woman than hotness, which fades with age. I want to be able to smile with her, laugh with her, have good conversations with her, suffer the indignities (calling each other the worst fucking names imaginable) while docking a boat with her only to be able to turn around later in the day and cheers our Cuba Libres after a long day of work, etc. That's the grease that makes a relationship not just tolerable,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:02 PM
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yeah tbh arguably an example of toxic femininity there. and society's response to the declining male share in colleges should be to encourage them, both in financial terms as well as subject matter terms. i reject this notion that men love being dumbasses who weld, they just - quite understandably - want reasonable compensation for their work. now if only dumbass welders would blame bosses instead of, like, women and immigrants...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:09 AM
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honestly i'd put money on teachers getting the worst pay
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:07 AM
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and usually works in a high prestige/interesting profession (firefighter, teacher, scientist) even if it's not a high-paying one. this is the counterweight - you have to have some level of badass if you aren't pulling in the dough. god damn, man. men can't catch a break. i'm gonna go live in a small cottage and die with my cats and dogs, fuck all this shit lol. crazy cat dude life sounds better than this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:06 AM
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I like and am supremely jealous of the fact that women sort of have a team spirit. Men rarely if ever have this. And I feel bad that y'all have to deal with creeps online and IRL, everyone should be able to enjoy the internet and real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:41 PM
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Quote from the redpill sidebar where it claims that "all women are x" or "that all women are like that" oof bruh AWALT is a staple TRP acronym. it is folly to pretend that this isn't a thing in TRP circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:04 PM
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I am, I'm saying people often think in absolutes, rather than in probabilities, which is much more often how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:21 PM
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What people don’t say is the truth, which is “yes you don’t NEED to be in shape, but it improves your odds by a lot. people infamously don't think like economists lol a dismal job over the dismal science
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:29 PM
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Same. Some of the basics of "red pill philosophy" are true, I just... don't think they should be credited as red pill philosophy, because it's not like "improving one's self attracts women and wins the favor of her family" is new information or anything. Then there are the "we should deny women the vote" and, ayup, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:22 PM
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I don't think porn is without its downsides, but I think banning or regulating it - apart from being a can of worms from a free speech perspective - is mostly predicated upon a moral panic. We could probably make real headway on this problem with universal access to mental health resources to include sexual health, as well as public health and awareness programs. tl;dr we don't need to sell out civil liberties to the horseshoe theory of rabid conservative theocrats and hysterical feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:44 PM
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More often than I do women tbh. Women pretty commonly otherize men and I'm just too damn tired to deal with that shit, even if it is somewhat understandable - a guy isn't going to jump down my throat for gesturing at him with his earbuds on or whatever. If I'm having a conversation with a woman, it's usually because there is SOME shared connection between us - maybe it's a friend of a friend, or we both went to the same concert and ended up at the same bar after, or something. Very rarely is it …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:15 PM
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That's literally the argument that's been going back and forth lol No, it isn't, the argument is whether or not we should maintain the selective service registry in the event of a draft, and the nature of selective service being sexist or not. That's a wholly different argument than whether or not "we will" use the draft, we arguably won't because broadly speaking there is much better use for our civilian population and broader economy than having them dig holes and fill them up again. What nati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:39 PM
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I'm sure you are, Rambo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:53 AM
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No one argued that anyone is going to institute a draft, but for what it's worth, yeah, I expect Democrats would absolutely institute a draft if national circumstances called for it. I don't think they will, but they might, and that's why the draft isn't going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:41 AM
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no one here is "begging for a draft" you dipshit, it's just a reality of what nation-states do in times of crisis. wishing it away is a laughable notion, and in order to well and truly get rid of it, you'll have to change global conditions in such a fashion that make that kind of large-scale conflict unlikely. widespread social programs, reasonably flat levels of income inequality, a relatively high baseline standard of living with food, water, housing, electricity, environmental control, access…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:40 PM
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I'm really not. I'm just pretty sure that they're keeping the draft around in the event of a full-on conflict with a near peer. I hope it doesn't happen, but our leadership is busy swinging their dicks around instead of just acknowledging the re-emergence of a multi-polar world and figuring out how to navigate that without a huge fucking conflict. China is a reasonably rational opponent, I'm sure they'd prefer avoiding war if possible, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:34 PM
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The idea that "there's never going to be a draft" is just... fucking insane, bro. I hope there never is one, but there probably will be a time when we need one again. This isn't the end of history, and given our dumbass selves, the likelihood that we've learned dick from our McCarthyite anti-communist knee-jerk reaction is next to nil. Kamala "The Most Lethal Military Ever" Harris is currently the Democratic candidate for president. I don't think cooler heads are prevailing on the notion that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:44 PM
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Feminists overwhelmingly support abolishing the draft altogether. bless their hearts but... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:42 PM
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in fairness, that's on the person using the phrase, not the person correctly interpreting and internalizing it. You could use less inflammatory language, and you might be shocked to see that people respond to that accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:40 PM
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The supply of quality men has declined. While I'm sure some women can go for that and that some conservative men are good quality, I cannot imagine any dude who's got Andrew Tate talking points hooked up to his brainstem to be a "quality" catch for any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:39 PM
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i think there is some firmware bug that somewhat influences the logic of this thought experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:30 PM
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it is folly to assert that the standard here is the same as living in some hut in a village with no access to running water. yeah i dont think that tho fair, i'm just pointing out that these are the conditions in which people are having more kids. paycheck to paycheck or not, we are more economically prosperous than that. mostly due to imperialism and rampant exploitation, but. most americans live paycheck to paycheck tho which is relatively prosperous. relatively. it's still bad, but there is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:21 PM
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most people don't want their kids to have good lives by third world standards, they want their kids to have good lives by their own standards. nowhere do i dispute that, that doesn't change the reality that we generally live at far above third-world standards, even living paycheck to paycheck. like, this is bad, and we should fix it (we have nothing to lose but our chains, labor is entitled to all it creates), but it is folly to assert that the standard here is the same as living in some hut in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:29 PM
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while I agree, compared to the historical mean and other places around the world, it very much is. most americans living paycheck to paycheck still have, like, electric lighting. refrigerators to preserve food. microwaves to cook it. environmental controls. cars. a myriad of technological wonders that make life entirely different from, say, impoverished villages in Africa that are living in near-medieval or even near-stone age lifestyles - and that's where people have huge families. by compariso…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:12 PM
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this is the reasonable take. i completely understand why women are wary of men, and men reinforce this both through their behaviors and through their own advice. as a man, this sucks, but also, yeah, I completely understand that my feelings are just not a consideration in someone else's safety. For fuck's sake, I'm fucking wary of other men, because tons of them are emotionally unstable fucking whackjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:57 PM
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cross the street when you see heart disease walking towards you on the sidewalk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:55 PM
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...probably? Being waited on hand and foot, having a decent stable job, being the center of the universe? Sounds rad, but that ain't today and, crucially, shouldn't be. I'm not going to argue women don't have their own hand in the way modern relationships and dating are, but men also need to adapt to a system and a sense of purpose that doesn't require the subordination of another human being to achieve self-actualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:49 PM
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I guess they're not ethnonationalist, but they're pretty overtly fascistic. The idea that oligarchs aren't a staple feature of fascism is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:47 PM
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I know you think you're criticizing Isreal, but you're just making a case for fascism and ethnonationalism. Russia is basically a fascist, ethnonationalist state and has a birth rate of 1.5 children per woman - well below the replacement rate of 2.3 children per woman. Ethnonationalist fascists don't have the answer - if anything, Israel's religiously-informed culture is more the reason why, but even they can't escape the march of economic development. Across the long-term, their birth rate has …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:35 PM
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also it's arguably a fairly destabilizing force, both domestically and internationally. i'm no Republican, but unchecked immigration is a dogshit "solution", and every pencil-pushing technocrat who think they've aced the problem is at best a C student.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:30 PM
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capitalism and wealth-hoarding aren't the same thing, but capitalism begets wealth hoarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:28 PM
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I don't think this is a consequence of capitalism so much as it's a consequence of economic prosperity. If people are fat, free, and happy... it stands to reason that fewer of them are going to burden themselves with the task of child rearing. That's going to be inevitable in a reasonably prosperous society be it capitalist or socialist. Poverty makes people breed. That's not to say I think capitalism is good, I don't. I think it's god awful and I do think that a more public-centric society with…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:27 PM
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literally all dating is pretty advantaged in favor of women, i don't know anyone who would argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:50 PM
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For the most part... yes! But then, I'm not pretending like there's some overarching social expectation that men put themselves in danger in the rare occurrence that a woman, or indeed anyone, is being attacked. Call 911 and get the fuck to safety, I think that's the reasonable social expectation. You could be the burliest bodybuilder around, if some gang member with a nine puts some lead in you that's it, you're done. Of course it's fucking unhinged to expect some rando dude to be your knight i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:38 PM
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absolutely unhinged take
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:16 PM
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i mean tbh yes i think it is possible for any well-meaning man to, for example, say or do some sexist shit. veers into misogyny depending on their reaction ("I'm sorry, I had no idea, I will adjust my behavior" vs. "FUCK YOU WENCH KNOW YOUR PLACE"), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:26 PM
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I think, by definition, it's sexist. So I suppose it is sexist, to me included, but... I'm like... a pretty boring dude, I'm not going to make a big deal about it. I already avoid people who are overtly sexist - men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:55 PM
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Believing that a fetus has rights does not it any way make me a misogynist. I mean, I'd argue it does, since the consequences of such a policy pretty much entirely fall on women, and since other policies that objectively reduce abortions (and thus, "baby murders" in the conservative lexicon) - such as access to contraceptives - are curiously also opposed by conservatives. Conversely, policies that objectively help children - like providing free school breakfast and lunch (which are correlated wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:54 PM
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awww. poor staff sergeant. as a dude, i think the military vibe is sharp as fuck. wish it wasn't so associated with right-wing chuddery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:09 PM
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no, but i think it pretty unambiguously is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:06 PM
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come the fuck on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:43 PM
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Its a good thing I wasn't actually advocating for restricting women's rights. No, you're just a self-described "Conservative Patriarch" mod of /r/conservative. Surely your views on access to abortion, no-fault divorce, access to contraceptives, and other women's issues are totally above board and "conservative patriarch" means nothing. Or worse, "is just a joke, brah". That sounds great. I think you could easily do this in a way that is not itself discriminatory. For example, lets say you have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:06 PM
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Just so we are clear, as you are unable to comprehend the most basic of points and need to resort to personal attacks: Statements of fact, not personal attacks. You may not think restricting women's rights is bigotry, but it is. I dont think that colleges should discriminate against women to close the degree gap. I pointed to that as a specifically absurd example that would technically meet his criteria, that there is currently a gap in college graduation rates between men and women where men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:08 PM
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obviously, this is ironclad, statistically significant data that DEFINITELY hasn't been algorithmically pushed to the top of that guy's hatescroll feed - it's PURELY RELEVANT DATA TO DESCRIBE SOCIETY
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:24 PM
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jesus christ i'm more worried about an understanding of statistics fucking over society than i am about "the dating crisis"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:23 PM
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As a woman, I don't look at people and instantly think "Do I want to date/fuck/etc this person?" I just think, hey that's a person. But if a guy approaches me to ask me out, NOW I'm asking myself those questions. the dichotomy in dating is ensconced in these sentences. tons of men absolutely do think that, I would even argue pretty much any heterosexual man does. the difference is in what they do with that - some men are like "ugh omfg this is annoying" and abide by society's expectations that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:20 PM
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I don't think the degree gap is significant enough to warrant discrimination against women (and, it's telling that your first solution was that - but "conservative patriarch" it's not like I'm surprised you're a bigot) - but incentive programs and financial assistance for men as we did with women? Yeah, absolutely we should do that. Men need some fucking humanities education.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:17 PM
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I guess I don't really object to that, I just know conservatives will act in bad faith and claim that therefore, their discrimination (predicated on hating groups of people) is therefore totally justified, and idiot Rogan-brained dipshits will lap that shit up. I don't really have a problem with it if it is deployed in good faith to address a quantifiable social problem, and I'd argue that specific targets would need to be met and specified in accordance with the law in order to provide robust s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:12 PM
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seems like institutional sexism, ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:11 AM
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People on the left have this idea that everybody is the same, and suggesting that other people from different cultures are worse than the local population is reflexively treated as racist lies. these usually are racist lies I think that's a huge mistake. Some people on the left are naive about the world, and I think it causes them to make bad political decisions. still wondering how this relates to selectively applying human rights to some human beings but not others. which, not for nothing, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:56 AM
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no, the people on the left just object to violations of human rights across the board, and believe that Muslim people are entitled to them, too. it's impressive how poorly right-wingers re-state their opponents' arguments, it's almost as if they engage in bad faith as a matter of course. i don't have to like a group of people to not want their human rights violated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:09 AM
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You don't need to believe me you can ask "assholes" that get a lot of women yourself. I am sure there is at least one dude like that in your circle of friends or acquaintances. Not really, no. Or you can go through the mountains of evidence out there on pickup forums/seduction forums. you and i have a far, far, diverging standard of what constitutes "evidence" No stranger automatically deserves respect Yes, they absolutely do. Human beings automatically deserve respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:36 PM
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For real. Like shit, dude it's not that hard lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:02 AM
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I'm not remotely certain I believe that, and it's worth pointing out, there is merit to not being an asshole in and of itself, up and over how many women you get to fuck you. There are things more important in life than your n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:01 AM
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Bars, shows, social events, etc. I'm not chatting up women in the grocery store or on public transportation, they're just minding their own business getting shit done in public, but specifically non-social environments. You're certainly free to shoot your shot, but they're also free to tell you to fuck off, and probably have a higher probability of doing so because they get that shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:00 AM
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Empathetic men aren't going to go up to random women in public and chat them up. There are appropriate venues. They understand that. They will indeed take that to heart, and probably have more success intimately than men who think they have to break all the "rules".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:18 PM
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I don't think you have to be an expert in women to talk to them. They're different people. Empathetic men recognize that. You can talk to them without having preset expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:16 PM
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I don't think empathetic young men are having trouble talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:05 PM
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who argues they can't? women looking for a real, long-term relationship obviously aren't going to be interested, but shit, you go girl. fuck around. have fun. live life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:33 PM
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i call him, mr. elegant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:19 PM
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yeah like there is a certain level of entertainment that must exist in a relationship. i don't make the rules and while i like a good boring book reading sunday as much as the next person, i also want to laugh at and be laughed at. shit's gotta be light sometime!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:19 PM
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I always feel weird about my answers to these questions, because I always feel like a massive pussy. the cage of conventional, enforced masculinity strikes again. i contend that even hard badasses need tenderness once in awhile, and we are discouraged from exploring that side of ourselves through shaming techniques that include "feeling like a massive pussy". like I'm pretty open about my masculinity and I'm not a big softie, I'm pretty average and boring. I'm not some amazing macho hardass but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:18 PM
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Confidence in her loyalty to me - i.e. my being able to confide in her and talk about anything, etc. She's got to be smart, too, like I'm not in this to pump 'n dump, I'm here for an equal and a life partner. I'd expect to be able to talk to her about anything, and I'd offer the same, but like... "anything" is a broad topic, so like, she'd need to bring some shit to the table so that we can have a good back and forth. We'd also more-or-less have to be on the same page like, politically and philo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:15 PM
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For sure. Especially privately-held small businesses, some bosses are pretty good with their employees - but a whole goddamn lot of others couldn't care less if you died in the streets. They got PPP loans and tax cuts nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:13 PM
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Oh for sure it is. Tell that to the cappies. They don't give a shit. You're an employee, not a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:47 PM
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Why wouldn't men make an attempt to understand dating dynamics and adapt? They should. Not sure "being a raging misogynist" is... that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:54 PM
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dunno! my theory? for-profit social media incentivizes algorithms that target engagement, which invariably will select for pissing people off. multiply that over a medium-term timescale of years worth of daily exposure, and yeah, I could imagine anyone - women OR men - going down the rabbit hole. men tend to be less emotionally intelligent and certainly socialized to be more independent, so things like "fact checking" and "media literacy" are not as emphasized as aggression, independence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:46 PM
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Yes, of course. Because 22 year old women have no agency and are simply children who are walking around in a haze of false consciousness. Yes, I'm very familiar your bullshit. literally no one said that lol, but i'm glad to see conservative dipshits announcing their failure at reading comprehension at every opportunity they get. Elon Musk also has agency, though I'm not surprised to see chauvinist bigots casually ignore that part. Your argument is misleading by placing this into a Marxist econom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:49 PM
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forgive me, but I don't think people who are crying about feminism aren't also crying about DEI and ESG and "considering minorities as human beings" - so you don't actually have to agree that hard until you've confirmed the original commenter as engaging in good faith, rather than a contradictory dig at feminism at odds with their other views. feminism absolutely should modify itself to be more applicable to a more diverse crowd. i don't think the people who ding feminism are very often doing so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:06 PM
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well that's fair, i stand corrected
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:06 PM
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i broadly agree with feminism, but i would tend to argue that policing one's masculinity comes from women, perhaps even more often, than men. feminist thinkers don't usually have a lot to say about that, which despite my broad agreement with the feminist lexicon and ideology, is a legitimate criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:43 PM
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Because being non-sociable detrimentally affects males more than females when it comes to being sexually desirable/available to the opposite sex. also because young girls aren't falling into some blackpill/incel/Nazi pipeline, young boys definitely are. realistically we just need to do a better job of promoting socially useful interests, and we accomplish this by taking social media CEOs and throwing them into the sun, and regulating the shit out of / nationalizing social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:40 PM
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i love how the blame falls entirely on Talulah Riley, and not dudes like Elon Musk who maintain this state of affairs where women, who understandably want security, chase men with money. We could probably have a way more egalitarian sexual relationship between the sexes, but Elon dickriders insist on maintaining the capitalist mode of production despite obvious cracks in its foundation resulting from the contradictions inherent to it. I think authoritarian socialism and Marxism-Leninism demonstr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:37 PM
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Hard but true lesson. That said, it is not necessary to be a bigot to unlearn doormaticity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:09 PM
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based on data, sure, not based on imagined grievances on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:18 PM
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women are not a monolith humans rarely come with a list of flaws public and made apparent at the start of getting to know them and women, who it bears reminding an increasingly uncomfortable number of times, are human beings who learn as we all do, and will make mistakes. some of them, get this, will keep making mistakes, which of course as we all know no men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:06 PM
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i mean admittedly my initial read saw "Elder brother(44m) slept with daughter's best friend(18f)" which, well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:40 PM
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yeah that shit went in a totally different direction than expected. i wonder if she had intentions from the beginning when she decided to go back to his house, alone. seems sus, given her stated fondness for him from the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:33 PM
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I dunno about "women and men" (though certainly some in both camps seem to think so!), but left and right, rich and poor? Yeah, absolutely. Why so many people - on both sides, tbh - seem to think "murder people" is a super hot take for their political ideology is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:29 PM
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lol for real there's not much distance between auth-leftists and fascists "but the terror was FOR the proletariat! you don't understand, read theory!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:02 PM
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nor do they compel the rest of us to act in service to shitty foundational ethics. sorry you were born hating people, the rest of us have no obligation to baby your bigotry along.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:10 PM
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The "basic arguments in the philosophy of ethics" would actually rather demand that the people who "dislike homosexuality" justify their position. I dislike conservatives, but I don't think they're unentitled to the equality before the law or basic human digits that they seek to deny to others, and conservatism IS a choice. It's a shitty, stupid, malevolent choice, but it doesn't invalidate someone else's basic claims to human dignity. The rest of society isn't obligated to confirm itself around…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:25 PM
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A bit ridiculous to have to mine the internet archive to find a god-damned study from a measly seven years ago. Get your shit together, CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:03 AM
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Lol omfg no it doesn't So if it's a choice, suddenly they waive equality before the law and human rights? No. That doesn't change shit. Leave them be - and for the record, inasmuch as the science has determined, it broadly isn't a choice - but there probably are some environmental factors may influence a person one way or another, or awaken feelings repressed by a strongly heteronormative society. Either way, no skin off of your back, so fuck off and mind your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:02 AM
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lol oof i don't know that I believe that ignorance is bliss, but i don't think that ignorance is good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:29 AM
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i'm so annoyed that we got conservatives bitching about vaccines instead of passionate screeds about the sinfulness of wearing clothes made of two different fabrics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:27 AM
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black pill is definitely the right color pill for them. you don't have to live in the shadow realm, bro, come back
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:26 AM
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well that's entirely fair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:25 AM
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well that's entirely fair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:25 AM
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Thank you, I wrote it for a sub where a certain kind of dudes constantly repeat this but predictably they are downvoting without presenting data and arguments like cowards. say it often and say it loud
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:24 AM
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i remember when it never mattered if it was in the first place. it still doesn't. mind your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:22 AM
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what did pills ever do to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:21 AM
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you'd have a point if conservatives were egalitarians to those within their robustly-protected borders, but they have literally never been that - consistently establishing social hierarchies for the in-group to protect the elites through the subordination of the outgroup. it is the only model by which elites retain their power, and the only way the in-group abides by this state of affairs is by largely being uneducated. conservatism 101, the bigotry is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:17 AM
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none does, that's a philosophical question that can be informed with peer-reviewed, replicated, rigorous academic studies about the shared reality in which we live. like studies that show the persistent relationship between crime and poverty, or studies that show the successful socioeconomic outcomes of children from two-parent households regardless of whether those parents are in heteronormative or same-sex relationships. conservatives usually don't incorporate facts into their lexicon, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:54 AM
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So you're basically saying "be a good person according to my ideology/religion, not the other ideology/religions idea of a good person" as is everyone, only at least my efforts are rooted in peer-reviewed, replicated, rigorous academic studies and at least make an attempt at internal consistency theirs are literally just bigotry which, of course, they think is good, but any five year old understands is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:14 AM
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Half, if not most, of the world believes fornication is evil and not something a good person does i'm broadly uninterested in the moral convictions of people who can't even hold their religious and political leadership to the standards they hold for everyone else, especially when the source material from which they take these moral directives says a whole shitload of things about caring for the poor, welcoming foreigners, and loving thy neighbor - but weirdly enough they don't focus on those mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:38 AM
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honestly the ridiculous part is how much it keeps fucking coming. like multiple posts daily about society collapsing or how things are bad for men because women have the right to vote. like jesus christ. touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:10 AM
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"I don't find her hot, how dare you find her so! Also I'm an individualist and understand what that means!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:55 PM
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Right I'm arguing that, in fact, free markets must have rules - they are neither markets nor are they free without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:52 PM
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yeah lol conservatives of different cultures famously get along despite hating other cultures as a bedrock "principle" of their dogshit ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:39 PM
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Secondly, positive or at least stable birth rates are required to simply continue existing. which we won't do as a guarantee of physics, you haven't yet established why "continued existence" should be the goal given the inevitability of resource shortages. future generations WILL live harder, shorter lives with more conflict, so maintaining the population or expanding it is a pretty shitty thing to do from an ethics perspective. of course, I don't consider reactionary fascists to be terribly con…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:38 PM
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i hate how this command economy won't let me threaten to murder people to get what i want /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:33 PM
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Arranged marriage is a welfare system for most men. Not more, not less. imagine thinking you're the hottest shit around while advocating for people to violently give you women and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:32 PM
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Translation: "that's a forced marriage, not a forced marraige!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:32 PM
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No, you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:31 PM
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your birth rates don't overcome the inherent contradictions of conservatism, nor the superior arguments of your opponents. that's why we're freer and more diverse now than we have been at any point in history - most people agree that being a good person is an important aspect of life and character, and it is impossible to be a good person while being a conservative. plus, fundamentally, conservatism is about domination and subordination of others, even (perhaps especially) other conservatives if…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:28 PM
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this is wildly over-dramatic and wrong. or rather, the gains of individual freedom and self-determination are worth the collapse of oppressive institutions. your analysis is wrong (Western nations are "importing immigrants" for cheap labor to supply profits for capitalist industrialists who are politically protected by the very same people who decry that freedom as, rather dramatically, "causing the downfall of society), and your conclusion ("downfall of society!") is just embarrassingly hyperbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:26 PM
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rare red pill w
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:04 PM
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if only that was even remotely applicable to human beings, you bigots might have a point. unfortunately, it isn't, so you remain bigots, terrible, and perennial e-brakes on human progress. good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:44 PM
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I wonder which ones got the jail time. Love all the "race realist" fascist bigots in PPD these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:45 PM
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it objectively isn't. even broadly generalized, centrifugal forces at the equator make it form an oblate spheroid, which is not a sphere - and that neglects to account for the differences in the height of the atmosphere, or the shapes of the land, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:31 PM
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There's nothing wrong with it necessarily, but it's a weird way of looking at things. not really, dude. it's pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:10 AM
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that's not what they're insisting is "entitlement", a reciprocal relationship by definition isn't entitlement, but a cooperative, mutually contributing arrangement. few (though some - everyone see that mother's day choosing beggar on the front page?) women would object to that as "entitlement". Lastly, anyone who has ever rejected a woman knows they can be equally hostile and entitled. haha lol yeah - but not usually dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:08 AM
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Thank you. Women being themselves should also include being decent. agreed - the "be a decent person" thing is sort of a general human expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:31 PM
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That's why they do all the things women say they like but do not get the woman this is a bitchy approach from the get-go, you shouldn't do things because the women say they like them, they should do things because they like them. that said, there are some things they shouldn't do, like being raging misogynists. Again, OP is not saying men should be indecent, maybe you missed that part. i don't think TRP is a terribly decent ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:50 PM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:49 PM
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men being themselves should include being decent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:13 PM
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Funnily enough we still get villainized. If we stay we gentrify. If we leave, we're white flight. and, if I reductively regurgitate bullshit in bad faith, i, too, can make things sound bad. workers living in a place doesn't gentrify. landlords and developers seeking profit over human lives do. and "white flight" isn't merely leaving, it's "leaving because too many of my neighbors are black", which isn't a problem in a country where 13% of the population is black. You're just crying about losing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:17 PM
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It’s good that white men are privileged in a society that they created. No, it's not - and it's pretty rich to insist that they "created" a society that was built upon indentured servitude, oppression of the natives, and slavery. Kind of seems like other people - including working-class white people - built it, but don't reap the benefits of it. There is no justification for unequal treatment under the law. Once white people become a minority in the American and the majority older generation die…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:13 PM
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So when you see a black guy walking around you ask to kiss his feet to make up for ancestral racism? no, because only unhinged people do that When are you going to advocate for racial quotas in the NBA? never, because celebrity worship is stupid. i don't care about vertu phones and bugatti veyrons, i care that ordinary people have access to a reasonable, base standard of living that includes transportation (ideally, sustainable transportation) and portable internet access (among other things), t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:37 PM
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When the DEI bullshit started, did you just shove your head in the sand and pretend it isn't happening? DEI is a response to 200+ years of legal favoritism for straight white dudes. Pretending that conservative social hierarchy affirmative action for WASPs didn't result in greater economic, policial, and social outcomes over the long-run, multigenerationally, for that subgroup of the population is just disingenuous. You feel free to ignore the economic and historical contexts that invalidate you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:10 PM
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we (men) probably aren't humanizing women as much. they're a thing to have, rather than a human being to spend the rest of your life with. and honestly thanks to the internet and TRP/gender conservatism, we've probably regressed in terms of our relationships with women than even a lot of Boomers or even Silents, as far as that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:50 PM
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i think it's certainly changing, but that's hardly a surprise. all identities have changed, especially in the last 1-200 years. Masculinity is no exception, and clinging to this notion that men should enjoy legal favoritism is just clinging to the past - and the TRPers and conservatives advocating for this are advocating for nakedly anti-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:48 PM
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I would argue that, given the cross-cultural universality of the trend, it is the driving factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:38 AM
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No? I don't know how you get the notion that i agree with conservatives on almost anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:37 AM
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Every woman's response is more like the former than the latter. no they aren't, come the fuck on there's only backpedaling once it's pointed out how wildly generalizing this whole thing was, which like yeah, but then, why'd you agree in the first place? because casual misandry is okay, and it shouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:12 PM
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actually, pretty good take tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:11 PM
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as a man, i do not think his thesis was terribly well thought-out. i probably won't endanger myself to rescue a stupid person, but that was already the case. i would still try to help a person that gets themselves in a shitty situation if there was a reasonable assurance of personal safety - you can berate them later, safety first. none of this has changed as a result of the bear memes which, while i understand them, i'm still not going to pretend like some aren't pretty clearly attacks on men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:10 PM
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obvious, easy choice, everyone else is dumb and wrong cocaine types are effective against everything
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:03 PM
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bears are pretty rad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:03 PM
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The women who answered on the spot with "Bear" meant well, but put us on a path that we can no longer get off of. Saying anything other than Bear makes you a Pick Me now. with sympathy to my sisters in humanity, this was already the case for any dude who wasn't an incel/red pill/conservative piece of shit who nevertheless but understandably felt attacked by a meme that effectively relegated every male human being to less than worthless. don't object, otherwise you're one of them, you know, the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:02 PM
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South Korea should get with the program and draft women, reaction against that kind of open sexism is understandable and, in that particular example, valid. I mean, it's still stupid and shitty to be conservative and anti-feminist (fighting bigotry with bigotry is obviously self-defeating), but a men-only draft is sexism, is bigotry, and is unfair. They're right to object to that. But that's not "why" birth rates are collapsing. It isn't unique to South Korea - every industrial, developed, moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:54 PM
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They affect those things, but the release of a fancy new iPad doesn't change a law to permit women to open a checking account, or more contemporarily, to protect her right to access abortion services from coast to coast, like a modern, civilized, secular country. Technology can significantly affect these things, and I am quite confident that if someone developed a homemade pharmaceutical 3D printer, or some easily homemade way to perform an abortion, conservatives would not abandon their theocra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:50 PM
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probably, no one disputed that. shitty bar to shoot for, but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:25 AM
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I'm not sitting here defending the Andrew Tate stupids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:42 AM
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Egalitarianism is the only thing that works. The fact that men and women are not the same does not change the fact that men and women are human beings, and thus, entitled to equality before the law. You have yet to explain why their lack of sameness must necessarily translate to a different set of rights for creatures who are fundamentally sentient, and entitled to certain inalienable rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:10 PM
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equality is not the same as sameness why should they be treated differently under the law, specifically, entitled to fewer rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:15 PM
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honestly not even a little bit sarcastic about that, i think that's legit what some of them want. i'm reminded of this line from George Orwell's book review of Mein Kampf: Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a grudging way, have said to people "I offer you a good time," Hitler has said to them "I offer you struggle, danger and death," and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:46 PM
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When I see Elon complaining about birth rate, they're really complaining about the lack of future cheap labor and stock returns. Oh, for sure. They need their labor cattle, capitalists are the MOST politically engaged and class-conscious group - but I was more referring to his meltdown over Mackenzie Bezos... donating money to charity being the downfall of Western civilization. What an absolute muppet. I have never seen them once support measures that would make work/life balance better or ease …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:39 PM
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oh there are definitely some conservative shadow brokers funding some of this shit. Musk is pretty clearly anti-women, among other bigotries he holds. it's actually stunning to me how many people are consciously sexist. conservatives: the perennial e-brake to human progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:29 PM
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i mean anger drives engagement, and the algorithm rewards engagement. for profit companies will chase that engagement every fucking time. social media is not inherently bad - for profit social media is actually a cancer. we only dial back from this precipice of bullshit by severely regulation social media companies, mandating transparent and testable algorithms, etc. we, of course, won't do that, because rich people don't want it, and don't actually care if society unravels. that's little people…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:19 PM
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social media has absolutely turbocharged some pretty terrible human behavior, from reduction in attention spans to incentivizing bad faith ignorance over good faith intellectual pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:16 PM
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seriously i'd ask what the psychopaths haven't figured out after the last gazillion dunkings, but apparently they still seem to think subjugating people is a helluva strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:14 PM
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Abolish the middle class the middle class was and is an ephemeral result of the postwar economic boom, which is regressing back to the historical mean of the proletariat vs. the bourgeoisie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:01 PM
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ban contraceptives and abortion, eliminate no-fault divorce, buttress cultural attitudes of women needing to be in the home, etc. your typical red pill tradwife "alpha male" dudebro wishlist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:00 PM
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the problem is that economic development along with contraceptives and abortion are much, much, much more powerful forces working against birth rates than anything meaningfully working for them. kids are a huge responsibility, expensive, and a time suck no matter how prosperous your civilization is. if you have the CHOICE not to have them, people WILL make that choice. that hasn't been an option until basically the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:58 PM
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that's the neat thing about capitalism, you will never convince those with capital that the solution can possibly be anything but something that advantages them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:55 PM
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Sons were so valued over daughters that queens would be executed of they dared not bring one into the world. still are, look at the one child policy in China. they're suffering the greatest demographic crisis in the world because of that policy, and the sexism that accompanied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:54 PM
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technological advancements do not override cultural and legal status, which was objectively oppressive to women, and should not have been, and should not be. people are people are people and are entitled to equality before the law, both to the letter and according to the spirit of it. that's the part conservatives fundamentally object to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:49 PM
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This one is wrong. Based on the fact when women refuse to date men who make less than her. Or will leave a man once she gets more than him. Divorce increases when a woman wins the lotto. Even a simple pay increase of $5k more increases divorce to 90%. Lesbians have the highest rates of divorce and gay men the lowest. and yet, in the overwhelming body of statistics, men come out financially ahead after divorce, and women financially far worse off. so, if you ignore the data, your rage paragraph w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:59 PM
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But again who was keeping women out of school? Look in the 1950s of women making discoveries in the medical fields and so on. So youre telling me women int he 1950s were not allowed to go to school but there were women with degrees in biology making medical discoveries? Oh my god how are you aware of this and NOT aware of the adversity these women faced to get to their positions? For every woman who IS credited with scientific discovery, a thousand more are footnotes in science despite being cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:03 PM
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a little bit of 3, a little bit of 5, the same feelings i extend to all human beings, even the ones i hate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:45 PM
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60% of GOP voters were in favor of the Respect for Marriage Act. If Republicans didn't want it passed then it would not have passed. You don't get to claim that "Republicans got it passed" when Republicans were objectively the biggest hurdle to getting it passed in the first place. You're patting the arsonist on the back for NOT setting the house on fire, and claiming he built it. Conservatives have been the problem for LGBT Americans from the get-go - and, not to put too fine a point on it, sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:58 PM
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I didn’t criticize the politically correct with no argument, I criticized the argument that gender is a social construct. You didnt own me there haha no, you didn't, you just whined about it, you didn't explain what you thought was wrong about it or why. you just cried about the fact that "the main stream politically correct" "they" considered it so. also, jesus christ you guys are cringe as fuck, is everything about "owning" to you? fucking god damn be an adult, make a fucking point, have a fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:14 PM
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not actually the definition of "right-wing" or "left-wing", and for the record, I like plenty of liberals and even a handful of conservatives. they're wrong, but decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:12 PM
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Yeah... the GOP legalized gay marriage nationally. No, they didn't. Liberal-leaning Supreme Court Justices and Democrats did, most of the GOP voted against the Respect for Marriage Act. You know, because conservatives are usually bigots (a handful aren't, but less and less meet that criteria ever since MAGA became a thing). But hey, by all means, lie about history - you are making the pro-conservative, pro-Red-Pill argument here, I don't expect it to be informed by factual record or good faith e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:06 PM
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Watch Psych Hacks, let me know what you disagree with bro i'm not going to do that. i have limited time and i'm spending it learning tradecraft, gardening, some games, and socialist theory. point is, I don't think you can really salvage the red pill from its earlier associations - they were and are really fucking bad, and women aren't wrong to absolutely fucking hate it. i don't much care for the view calling my gender useless. Michael sartain always talks about men needing to perform better to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:54 PM
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boomers vote, young people don't, this will change but unfortunately boomers of all stripes - who happen to veer more conservative, for the record - have the advantage by virtue of having a large and outsize electoral influence and wealth. you know who's following right in their footsteps? dipshits who complain about "misandry" and then vote for theocratic fundie right-wing authoritarians who want to make boomer takes about the world law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:51 PM
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"left-wing" lol i don't expect the insane right-wingers that are conservatives to ever change or engage in good faith, but liberals are just reasonable right-wingers. venerating a bunch of rich women and their opinions isn't exactly a left-wing cause celebre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:48 PM
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Some undoubtedly are. I expect that there are some women out there who are profoundly defensive of their seemingly god-given right to talk shit about men as a whole, and I'm just not down for casually writing off entire groups of people based on there inherent identities like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:35 PM
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Red pill is many things, it’s not all about fresh and fit and Andrew Tate sorry, but that ship sailed long, long ago. The red pill is simply realizing that men and women aren’t equal and biologically differ in many ways which challenges the main stream politically correct narrative that gender is a social contract and on an infinite spectrum and meaningless "they" aren't out to get you, the red pill doesn't offer anything that pretty much anyone won't recommend you do to improve your fuckability…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:34 PM
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this isn't abnormal i don't care what your wild uncle joe says at the thanksgiving table, dude. sorry that he sucks, but every family's got one. it's a bit different than, say, when the former President of the United States gets on national television and tells his supporters that Venezuela and the communists fraudulently cast votes to cost him the election. one is a stark raving mad lunatic at the thanksgiving table, the other is still a stark raving mad lunatic, but with an uncritical and fana…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:28 PM
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I think people believe men can be victims As one, I know you're wrong. lol for real, shit this is like one of the textbook examples of how men literally are victims, by not being considered as even potentially being one. It is literally the driving force behind the anti-feminist backlash you think is scarier. Separating the two is the core mistake here, they're two heads on the same serpent of hate. fucking preach
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:26 PM
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I agree. Misandry is acceptable because these rich old ladies are “punching up”. not really punching up, most men are working-class stiffs getting fucked over by the same system that centers celebrities and wealthy people. they're pretty privileged by comparison, because while aspects of identity such as sexual orientation, race, and sex absolutely do matter no matter how much the "anti-woke" crowd cries about it, the fact is that nothing aligns as hard and as fast as class does. and either you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:23 PM
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eh. it's better to condemn both when it's done in good faith. I have a hard time taking "but but misandry!" from someone who openly and proudly subscribes to an inherently misogynistic line of thinking, which is exactly what the red pill is. Misandry is condemnable, he's still right, but I'm not under any pretenses that he's operating in any kind of good faith, given his open subscription to a pretty fucking hateful ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:18 PM
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Yet it is... so what are you going to do about it? Nothing. maybe, depends. it just happened, and it would be pretty damn hypocritical if nobody got the axe for this. should be noted, "social justice warriors" are indeed calling this out, and those who aren't... aren't being consistent on the issue, and are rightly condemned for it. on the flip side, where are the conservatives or men's rights advocates or Red Pillers crying about the unequal treatment of LGBT people, women, minorities, and othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:18 PM
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she is not "the first woman to condemn this". i think misandry is far too casually bandied about, but credit where credit's due, PLENTY of women do consistently call this out, and should be credit for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:15 PM
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holy shit a conservative that isn't going full authoritarian
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:43 PM
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And always has been, not to put too fine a point on it, but that might be hard for someone to understand if they don't REALLY consider women to be people, with agency, and contributing to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:39 PM
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Eh I've seen statistics that suggest that they are, but I'm not keen on government shitting on women's rights to achieve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:38 PM
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Because they're conservative, and the bedrock of conservatism is a legally enforced social hierarchy. They do not believe in equality between sexes or between races or even within races, and think that the law should enforce that. This is the fundamental precept of conservative politics - everything springs forth from this idea. They think women are less than men, and should be legally accorded as such. Etc, etc, with black people, LGBT people, etc. There are a handful of conservatives that aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:36 PM
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I mean, that's great tbh. It's more the hucking bigotry about trans people than I'm less okay with, I guess she got one of the bigot souls then. Bummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:31 PM
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I mean Alinsky was a leftist of sorts, so probably one of the better influences on anyone occupying that office. The alternative is some ghoulish right-winger or economist, and not to frighten the cruelty and human suffering stans in here, but Obama had more than enough influences among that crew to ensure the wealthy stayed wealthy and that plenty of middle eastern children did not go unmelted. he wasn't a raging theocrat or white, though, so the right lost its fucking mind over him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:25 PM
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Of course he does, it's copium that there exist men out there who don't make it a point in their personalities to be total raging douchebags
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:18 PM
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completely hinged take
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:11 AM
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By and large men aren't graduating from college as much anymore. This is a policy failure. Academia is good, scholarship is good. There is nothing valuable about being a illiterate ignoramus, which is sadly what a lot of men seem to value nowadays. I do think some of this is due to the "yasss queen slay" vibes out there, and men feeling... pretty demoralized and not valued. This is a failure of culture. We don't have to be reading misogynists to have value, but we sure do need broader society to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:07 AM
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Not all of us can sell our souls for money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:04 AM
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" slavish desire for sex" man spot on, i am as horny as the next dude and like sometimes that shit is a prison. I'm not my sex drive, and to me that's one of the key actualizations of manhood - to rise above one's primal instincts, not to try and satisfy them by dehumanizing my sisters in humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:01 AM
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how dare someone want an attractive sexual partner. totally different than you, who doesn't and that makes you better, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:56 AM
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With FREE Money for school. FREE training in many fields that literally will reject men for women. lol this is just false Maybe some scholarships, but those scholarships usually aren't free rides but instead like... $1,000 here, $2,500 there - for a group of people who were historically denied from educational attainment not on the merits but on their identity, the affirmative action for whites and men that existed in this country and others in the Western world for centuries. Also if that's you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:55 AM
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This is an impossible task.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:48 AM
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willing to bet things will happen in the intervening centuries that will be required for that place to disappear but yes generally i don't think the contradictions of capitalism can last indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:55 PM
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yes of course nothing will change in the multiple centuries between now and then that it will take for South Korea to stop existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:54 PM
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"should we have listened to what that guy was about to say?" "nah it's probably fine"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:49 PM
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i work at work, and i work at home, but these fucking morons think i just want free stuff no i'd like to work on stuff i give a shit about and not have to worry about my friends losing their rights every 2-4 years, that'd be fucking nice but nope investors gotta enshittify stuff, this is the best system you see, THE SPICE ECONOMY MUST FLOW GROW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:45 PM
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yeah, useful labor, directed at actually helping your population, not robocalling shitloads of people with next-to-useless insurance for their buttplugs or whatever other stupid shit capitalists regularly redirect useful manpower towards. very socially useful for AI companies to make billions of dollars off of art that they did not own the IP for, I'm sure we'll be compensating those artists with partial stock value of the now-billion dollar companies that did that any minute now. (oh wait lol p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:44 PM
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all part of the long game of JUCHE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:43 PM
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temporary problem that doesn't demand authoritarian reproductive policies - a low birth rate will just result in a declining population, which is arguably a good thing. the idea that "the backbone of a country" is a capitalist framing - we could build a humane, socially progressive state that cares for its population and trades with other countries instead of engaging in wanton economic imperialism. capitalists need that backbone to exploit for their profits, that's less necessary with immigrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:36 PM
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no one is obligated to take you seriously without specifics, and credible support for them. until then, people bitching about "wokeness" are just butthurt that saying the n-word with a hard "r" costs them socially. same same goes for "muh male loneliness" - if all you want to do is bitch about how awful the wahmen are, then like... you're doing it to yourself, dude. they're asking for pretty basic equality. not a tall ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:31 PM
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South Korea's replacement rate is 0,72, a third of what is necessary, why kill your enemy when it will stop existing by itself? Then you can just walk inside when almost no people are left. in hundreds of years, when that matters, surely North Korea will be biding its time, unchanged, in that time i do not give a shit about birth rates - if you wanted to do something about them, make a country worth reproducing for
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:29 PM
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north korea is a starving, destitute wasteland, they didn't win shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:25 PM
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i love all of these broad claims that don't include specifics. love it. like people complaining about "wokeness" or "the progressive agenda" or how "the civil war was about states' rights". these people are pathologically dishonest. i'm not arguing men aren't facing some serious issues, but if you're going to claim "men have become the marginalized", you've really got to be specific and bring something to the table that isn't "people are mean to men on social media". yeah dude, I don't particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:03 PM
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North korea won without by doing nothing. oh my god dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:58 PM
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racism is so over that broadly ineffectual, performative attempts at ameliorating inequality via D.E.I. offices are under attack. hiring disparities between black- and white-sounding names CONTINUE to persist at rates that have basically not improved for decades, but Charlie Kirk said something about unqualified pilots being PoC, so I guess that's fact now. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:30 PM
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Behave I am not suggesting you start a cult. well god damnit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:25 PM
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How much sex am I owed and from which woman and why? 7, all of them, because OP is horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:25 PM
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ah yes that... assuming that's the original post, it is definitely different framing than what OP is posing here. bit of either erroneous or dishonest re-hash of the prompt, /u/Sea_Finding2061. i, too, wonder what kind of dude would respond to "four women looking for roommate" and i, too, wonder wtf her roommate was thinking in a place advertised as all-women housing. like i would think that she has an obligation to consider her roommates and their safety, especially given that THEY specifically…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:21 PM
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it doesn't say that at all in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:01 PM
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alternatively, i dunno, men who flair themselves "Red Pill Man" i'm just spitballin' here tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:30 PM
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lol elon musk not sure how covert he is about it anymore tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:29 PM
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That’s the thing though, they don’t make other peoples experiences and opinions about themselves. again, not how language works. with some of the memes, sure, it's "i would choose the bear". With others, it's "men", generally, as an entire group. choosing words more carefully isn't hard, and it's always (and correctly) demanded of men. When TRP generalizes women it's wrong, and by your own logic here you're "making other people's experiences and opinions about themselves" - but neither of us her…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:02 PM
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dude ur a dude, you just have feelings and that's like actually fucking normal. like you're literally here defending having an entirely normal response to being called "worse than useless" and you're adding all these disclaimers here and there when you literally just are entitled to feel that way, and no reasonable person would think twice about your take here. Unfortunately, there IS absolutely a component of modern online gender discourse where hating men is tolerated in a way that hating wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:53 PM
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yeah, I was definitely in that forest for over 24 hours, tripping balls on mushrooms for a solid 12 of them so have you... not... gone camping for more than a day in the middle of bumfuck nowhere? like in a national park outside of a designated camping area? there's bears there. you take precautions, like suspending your food off of tree branches and shit so they can't easily get to it, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:45 PM
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How can young women today, the GRANDCHILDREN, of women who were actually oppressed, feel or be subject to biases that existed decades before their birth? jesus christ dude because those people are still fucking alive, for one, for two, the societal attitudes and culture that they fostered into their children are still very much alive and well. TRP exists, after all, and it's not a bunch of 70 year olds, but a bunch of 25-35 year olds who think women are only good for fucking and nothing else. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:31 PM
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Roe v. Wade was only protected in 1973. There were absolutely places in this country where you could not get abortions, and women were only able to open their own checking accounts with the passage of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974. We don't have to go to the 1870s and 1880s to witness fucking ridiculously unequal treatment of women statutorily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:09 PM
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Hold the people storming the capital responsible. No, problem with that. Cool, cool. For the record, I'm of the same view - whether you're a #BlackLivesMatter protestor or a modern-day ignorant brownshirt, if you do a crime, you should do the time. I do not think that #BlackLivesMatter protestors who were merely protesting, or January 6th protestors who remained on the Capitol Greens, did anything criminal or warranting arrest and detention. Now let’s bring this back to abortion, let’s hold ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:06 PM
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tbh I'd say it's fewer percentage-wise, but that's because women understandably want the top quality men, whoo are usually just rich and privileged. We should just eat those men. No need to give certain dudes special privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:47 PM
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Economics has always been and will always be part of a relationship, and should be. It isn't the only consideration now, however, which is good. That said, setting hard salary targets is pretty gross
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:40 PM
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Also women couldn't open checking accounts without hubby's approval! And Roe v. Wade was barely a thing (and now isn't a thing, again!). Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:39 PM
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Jesus Christ imagine thinking that a.) 50 years is "enough" time to shed social and cultural biases, or b.) That women "have been emancipated for 50 years", which is just breathtakingly false on its face lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:38 PM
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The big difference is, good men don’t take this kinda shit seriously. Nah. I think there's plenty of decent dudes who do, who keep quiet about it for fear of their feelings being dismissed exactly like you just did, with that kind of gatekeeping. There's that "men should share their feelings" conditionality coming out, right there. But I was raped when I was younger and I’ve been sexually assaulted more times than I can count, and the good men around me believed me without proof and have support…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:35 PM
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Bruh i was in a forest that almost certainly contained bears to watch the eclipse. I am fine. Jesus Christ has anyone here actually been to the woods or read like, a paragraph of wildlife interaction guidance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:21 PM
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I think most of us will, since those will be owned by the rich and used to protect their privilege. If only dudes stopped simping for capitalism before the rich for their death robots we could've built a better society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:20 PM
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I’ve still yet to see any of it I doubt that, and also 👀 What I do see a lot of is men casually dismissing woman’s opinions, issues and problems and then being surprised and offended when woman pick cats or bears over them. I'm not going to pretend there aren't breathtakingly unaware men with a lack of self-awareness and rejection of women's concerns and issues generally. There are. They're terrible and, the usual suspects. But I'm also not going to pretend like men effectively being told that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:12 PM
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I wouldn't agree that cops do it for rape only. You get your wallet stolen and you have to do more lengthy work than an entrance test for a report. I would tend to argue there is a difference in severity between rape and a stolen wallet. I can understand them not taking a stolen wallet seriously. I cannot excuse their inaction on rape as casually, and I would argue that statistics on the dismissal and disbelief of women's reports is a key component of why mostly male police forces disregard rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:07 PM
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Yeah that shit is insane and barbaric
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:00 PM
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None, I was speaking more broadly about the trend generally. I think casually bandying about the notion that men are worse than useless is... not cool, to put it mildly, but casual misandry is a thing now, so that's neat. While adding that bears are breathtaking climbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:59 PM
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Yeah, while partially true, the "lack of evidence" bit is also due to biases by the investigating authorities. Cops don't take accusations of rape seriously, don't meaningfully investigate, don't collect evidence, and then rapists get off scot-free. Which is a shame, because statistics seem to show that rape is perpetrated by a small group of repeat offenders. False rape accusations are a thing, but nowhere even in the same ballpark as actual instances of rape. No one disagrees that women who fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:55 PM
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Is the death penalty a commensurate punishment for rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:50 PM
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I am pleased to say that i hate both sides of this entire, profoundly stupid "debate". Dudes incapable of understanding male weirdness and danger, and women casually writing off half of humanity as worse than useless, God damn, the death asteroid cannot come soon enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:49 PM
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did you seriously argue that you can escape the bear by climbing trees? with no dog in the fight here beyond the usual casual misandry inherent some of the bearposting, you should be aware that bears are exceptional climbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:44 PM
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Where is it implied in the post that this is "female only" housing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:18 PM
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On the one hand I'm like "equality, bitch". On the other hand, as a man, I do not trust men that I have not vetted, soooo... I can absolutely understand the impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:15 PM
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statistically they vote more than men do in the United States, probably because they have a lot more to lose than men, and this was referencing polling - like public opinion sampling, not voting in elections. See: https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout my point is, this is such a non-issue next to the real issues women face that pollsters can't even be bothered to attempt to quantify women's broad positions on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:40 AM
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Like I said, someone has to reduced the degeneracy. We're not obligated to agree with terrible people (conservatives) on what is or isn't "degenerate" No, no one is. Do you honestly believe the left is going to push through every bright idea that pops into their head while the right simply does nothing? Of course not, I regularly expect the right to take the worst, most evil position possible, lie about it, and then try to realize that position (by lying about it). If it’s their right what are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:06 AM
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I mean this is coming conservatives and republicans who want less government intervention. but they don't, you have to go out of your way to criminalize abortion, same-sex marriage, trans people, etc. conservatives have never wanted less government regulation, conservatives have only ever wanted a legally enforced social hierarchy, because they're weenies who hate people who don't look and worship like them. Someone has to stand up for the embryos, fetuses, and children as they’ll get tossed whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:43 AM
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You know who deserves to be lifted out of poverty? A woman who is simply just nice. swing and a miss, the correct answer would've been "everyone"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:33 AM
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no, i mean being a weird theocrat about it - gets involved in other people's sex lives, thinks embryos and fetuses are people, wants to check little kids' genitals to make sure they're the "correct" gender - standard conservative 12th century creep shit, yeah. You mean require some accountability lol i just love this to whom? for what? tell on yourself more, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:31 AM
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i do not think they do, to the extent that i am positive that if we were to go to polling places, they do not rank this as an issue worth polling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:27 AM
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i love how the people who are... like, actually down to ban interracial marriage deploy it as a cudgel against people who are not even in the same solar system of that policy "objective"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:20 AM
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i'm disputing the degree to which you seem to think western women think about your pet issue they don't, at least, not that much. they think about how people are trying to ban abortions, mifepristone, contraceptives, no fault divorce, and women's suffrage, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:17 AM
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two things they uh, are held to account, well above what their rates of criminality would suggest, so have fun with that and second, we don't have to ignore centuries of oppression and the downstream effects that will have on a population. it turns out that impoverished whites, shockingly, also commit crimes at rates higher than wealthy, housed whites with stable family units. but sure, yeah, or take the racist tack
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:10 AM
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i'm pretty sure western women are made angrier by right-wing chuds trying to legislate their lives for no fucking reason, but hey, maybe incel internet has it all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:05 AM
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nah, men have a type. i think raver girls are smoking hot, but like... wild crazy and i just don't have time to deal with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:04 AM
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well, there's nothing in there about how women should be property! look at the misandry!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:32 PM
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i don't think that ANYONE defending capitalism is the enemy. they're wrong and victims of the social context in which they find themselves, and are content with or, more likely, unaware of the social class hierarchy that capitalism imposes - but AT SOME POINT, when push comes to shove and the debate goes from cold to hot and out come the guillotines and rifles, then they inevitably, unfortunately, become enemies. there may well be some capitalists who think "ah fuck it I've made enough whatever"…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:28 PM
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you're ignoring the argument that was made: South Korea and Scandinavia are developed, and as we have seen across borders, rising development and HDI correlates with declining birth rates, and the correspondingly, the poorest countries are the countries with the HIGHEST birth rates. It turns out that the availability of abortion and contraception do indeed impact birth rates. Which I, not being some weird right-winger, do not give a shit about - fewer humans is probably a good thing for the long…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:43 PM
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why the sex, of course. homie here is arguing for a different kind of statutory rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:40 PM
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We humans seem to prefer to have human enemies rather than a system that is the enemy. plenty of human enemies, capitalism simps and the prime beneficiaries of capitalism will inevitably defend the system and force themselves into that camp, even if they - in many cases - are themselves victims of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:39 PM
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also that, but from my experience most "grrr women, existing!" red pillers are also fanatical supporters of capitalism, so I don't anticipate any kind of introspection on that. they are themselves fairly misandrist since this system is objectively pretty terrible for most men, who are working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:38 PM
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it isn't, I don't particularly want a reversion to sexual domination by men by statute. I don't particularly like the misandry casually bandied about by contemporary women, but that's an issue entirely separate from anti-LGBT and anti-women legislation pursued by the right. That's just bigotry in response to bigotry, which is hardly the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:36 PM
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as with all things, it likely won't. human social conflicts will persist, and it's not like we're going to build a society that's better and fairer for all people anytime in any of our lifetimes, so. but I believe that the light that's been shed on negative male behaviour lead a lot of men to attempt to fix themselves fundamentally god i hope you're right, but all i'm seeing is absolute fucking cretins like Andrew Tate being elevated to positions of fame that they should never have been elevated…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:19 PM
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Do you feel dunked on personally? I only ask because you say that this kind of thing dunks on all men. A bit, yeah, but it's whatever - I can for the most part just brush it off. But, speaking as a reformed right-wing libertarian now turned libertarian/market socialist, I can absolutely say that this shit absolutely has an effect on either radicalizing, or depressing the shit out of, men. I can't even say men are wrong for either of those entirely understandable responses. I can criticize them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:20 PM
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1 in 1,000 isn't exactly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:02 AM
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Let's say a woman chooses bear and says she chooses bear because she prefers being dinner to being the victim of a rapist. Because men kill themselves over not being valued by society, because of shit like this. Sorry not sorry, but if generalizing about people is bad and wrong, it's bad and wrong - and there is basically one group of people who are allowed to be punched on, and it's men, most of whom are just exploited SoB's who are in prisons of traditional masculinity that they had no hand in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:00 AM
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10/10, no notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:08 PM
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We disagree. I think observing a working man versus a one who regularly engages in sloth does light off some attraction receptors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 10:44 PM
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In the grand scheme of things, Money is quite q recent invention to humanity. i think the human brain can pretty easily alias monetary income to provisional/protective ability. also, people tend to underestimate the amount of change can occur in a species literally just generationally. breeds of dogs that are familiar to us today looked... visibly different just 100 years ago. 20+ generations of human beings and we in the present generation probably look, think, and act differently than the peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:51 PM
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it is exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:47 PM
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most of those thousands of years were pretty fucking terrible for the women. and not to put too fine a point on it, but they pretty well sucked for the men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:28 PM
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words actually mean things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:27 PM
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i think it is reasonable to point out that many women do indeed maintain gender norms, and while that preference is reasonable, enforcement of it in other, problematic ways is not, in exactly the same way it isn't for men. worth pointing out, though, women really aren't enforcing male gender norms via laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:07 PM
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in my experience women are usually... pretty fucking blunt. way moreso than men, who are definitely "policed" in the way they talk about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:04 PM
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oh no, looks matching, the horror
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:03 PM
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i mean i certainly know where i stand on the issue, but are we at a point now where we're obligated to pretend like fucking another dude is "the same" as fucking a woman? like, come on now people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:02 PM
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yeah. i suspect if they had a single atom of self-awareness they might've once or twice asked a woman what it's like to be hounded by men all the time. but, yes, you nailed it. they do not actually care, because they do not actually think of women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:22 PM
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which is weird, since they live that lifestyle pretty often lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:10 PM
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best response so far, but honestly... #3 is arguably a boon
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:05 AM
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shit i usually expect trumpies to be this bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:04 AM
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overall reasonable take. men are expected to act, and sometimes quickly and... ruthlessly. but that's kind of expected when you're in a situation that calls for it, doing it to just do it is, as you said, very cringe and probably indicative of a deep-seated insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:52 AM
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it could pretty easily we just have to eat the rich but i guess that's the part that's not changing any time soon, which... depressed sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:29 AM
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not really how taxes and social investments work, alas. and to be clear: i am fully 100% fine with my taxes paying for other people's healthcare, including abortions. full send that shit. if i have to pay for the vaporization of little Palestinian kids, i'd like at least some of my money going to marginally good things in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:14 AM
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they are polite to cashiers at the supermarket
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:05 AM
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on the one hand, yes on the other hand, exploiting emotional vulnerability which is inherent in any successful relationship just to get one's rocks off a few times before fucking off to the gas station to get some cigarettes is not exactly a single gender thing. there's tons of women online talking about the "ick" if their guy cries or whatever or how they'll just "get a new one" if their husband gets ill - and that kind of behavior is shitty across the fucking board. like i get it Did my mother…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:05 AM
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not a terrible idea i'm still at a loss as to why an at-birth paternity test is soooo off the table though. women have certainty. men don't. we have the technology and social institutions to ameliorate this inequity. why wouldn't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:57 AM
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why would women need one? are they concerned about who the mother of the baby they just pushed out of their own body is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:55 AM
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Mandatory testing as a prerequisite for establishing parental duties is not authoritarianism. yes it is, you'd be forcing people to give up information about themselves - pretty fucking intimate information, at that - against their will. they may have religious convictions or other objections, and to deny someone their kid on the basis of "didn't agree with paternity test" is abso-fucking-lutely authoritarianism of the highest degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:54 AM
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mandatory is probably too far and would be unconstitutional given bodily autonomy rights and what-have-you. but a small opt-out checkbox would be rad. i would hope women wouldn't be whining about it, since it just levels the playing field of awareness of parenthood, which they get from biology. it'd probably end up being memed to high heaven "fellas, if she askin' you to opt-out, SHE AIN'T THE ONE". trust is a two-way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:53 AM
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Until one's DNA is considered public and not private information there will never be mandatory testing. how does this follow whatsoever. you could make the test opt-out and keep the information private, it does not have to be public at-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:50 AM
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lol a Democrat introduced it, too, kick ass. honestly i'm not even a little bit opposed to this. if the notion is that we're supposed to "protect the children!" by effectively lying to men because they're convenient walking, talking wallets... then that's open-and-shut bullshit. i fully support a woman's right to choose, equal pay, forcing cops to use rape testing kits, etc. - but suddenly, when the shoe is on the other foot, and technological and sociological solutions are available to even the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:49 AM
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I saw this TikTok where a woman was explaining that males making $50k/year should bow out of the dating pool. This is because they wouldn't have expendable income to treat women when out on dates. lol the literal average American
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:19 PM
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this is an absolutely insane take lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:36 PM
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no, you won't. and, in fact, plenty of leftist dudes understand certain obvious "red pill concepts" that are not, at all, concepts that "the red pill" discovered or invented - you can understand the nature of relationships between men and women and not be a raging chauvinist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:02 PM
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worth remembering that folks like OP exist when considering political ramifications - not everyone gives a shit about realizing a better or more moral world, and thus appeals to morality are not universally useful at persuading others to your view. might not even be a majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:56 PM
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i am not convinced that women are jealous of where all the good men have gone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:20 PM
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they do, they probably don't among chuds. but you probably don't date chuds, so no harm, no foul. i want a woman who is pretty and agreeable. i also want a woman with whom i can share my values with, learn from AND teach, and experience life with on a visceral, intimate level. i don't think i could do that with an uneducated woman. matter of fact, i damn well KNOW that, since i had more than a few chances to get with some blonde bombshells that were dumb as rocks, and one afternoon convinced me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:51 PM
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unemployment, victimhood of crime, education, war, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:09 PM
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rarely, usually if it's political. never when it's a thot pic, even if I do like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:47 PM
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bonuses: more favorable dating heterosexual dating ratio (though in practical terms it's unchanged - incels weren't gonna take any off the market), better internet experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:20 PM
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"women will cause men to be violent to them if they keep acting this way" incel hopium. this is a thing that will never happen. dads will not stand for rando dudes demanding access to, and abusing their daughters, and societies know where babies come from. we would absolutely murk a bunch of dudes to put them back in line if needbe lol. the same crew that whines about men "being disposable" thinks that disposable men in law enforcement won't shoot the entire fuck out of a small group of disposab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:00 PM
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Yeah, dude, your post reeks of conservative grievance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:16 PM
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Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. Other poster brings in receipts, and you fucking deflect to over 20 years ago. Bill Clinton has been getting hammered in Democratic circles lately, he went on Colbert and the FIRST fucking question from Colbert was about Lewinsky and some comments Clinton made on another news show. He damn sure hasn't aged gracefully, he is not the Democratic patriarch he thought he was going to be because it IS fucking damn wrong in every way that he, the literal President o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:00 PM
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"Donald Trump is a russian agent of influence" is the right kind of "this conspiracy nonsense". no, it's pretty stupid, too "Green advocates don't actually have a sustainable action plan and are useful idiots to replace the elites in safe and controllable manner with even worse elites who care even less about actually solving stuff" - is the wrong kind. No, that's arguably a constructive criticism of the environmental movement. It's also not remotely what critics of the environmental movement ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:56 PM
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Rape is a bit different due to physical evidence being present. it does require the victim to file a police report pretty quickly after the incident, and it also requires cops to not be total fucking scumbags
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:08 PM
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Fucking glorious news. I know the c-suite and investment bro types are salty ("now i'll only have a pacific yacht and an atlantic yacht! waa!"), but fuck them. Labor literally builds society, not "investment".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:20 AM
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good take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:04 PM
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"I ran some background checks, and yours came back the cleanest!" first date? probably not unreasonable, tbh. women have plenty to worry about vis a vis creeps and shit, and uh... welcome to the age of information, this shit is going to happen more and more, cheaters be warned. and if women can do it, so can men. so get an onlyfans, filter out the weirds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:43 PM
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I agree, especially on a personal level. I don't have time to evaluate whether or not the man beelining for me through the alley at night had a troubled upbringing or if I'm overreacting, I'm just fucking getting in the car and leaving because lizard brain senses that, while sometimes wrong, are often right after billions of years of evolutionary fine-tuning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:37 PM
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You COMPLETELY misunderstood what I said homie. Re read it. Fair, you're still wrong about the right, but you're correct about: "What I'm trying to get across is an explanation for why women don't want to try and justify their position, and it's because they shouldn't have to. There's no useful debate between "we want to kill you!" and "let us live peacefully!" I get that. Please provide me with all the evidence you have that evil exists. I can't. I can ask what it would take for you to believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:41 PM
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No, it's really not lol. Trying to pretend like it is, is just masturbatory faux intelligence. Yes, it really is. Homie, they overturned Roe v. Wade and are banning abortions in states left and right, looking to enforce them via data mining menstruation apps and traffic checkpoints. That's already fucking dystopian as fuck, and its disingenuous for you to pretend that fucking tons of right-wing "thought leaders" coyly imply how good it would be if women were submissive to their husbands or didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:26 PM
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I wouldn't call it an epidemic yet like OP, but it's still troubling. why? the world is burning and even if it weren't it has an upper limit on habitability. we are basically guaranteed untold suffering unless we figure out how to die off willingly, and life is about more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:22 PM
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whoa cool it on the cybernetic bigotry, girl, someday sex robots will be sentient and better at fucking than all of us put together
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:21 PM
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government-mandated sex, because they got the chips in plastic bags and couches
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:20 PM
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Women claim its "dehumanizing" it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:19 PM
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average everyone is getting less and less, write up a sob story or do something about it - preferably something like "joining a union" or "doing political activism", ideally of the sort that's like "we're human beings and we're fucking entitled to housing and a sustainable environment" as opposed to "waaahhh the wamens shouldn't vote and daddy Elon can fuck people over as much as he wants why are wages stagnant".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:18 PM
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That's often because women's politics are not based on opinion, but more on their desire for rights/needs. this is opinion. the right is just of the opinion that women aren't entitled to rights. it's a valid political position. a dogshit, odious one, but is nonetheless a position people can and, tragically, do hold. :( Like I don't see how you can convince someone who's pro choice that it's wrong, that's a purely philosophical and moral stance that depends on your upbringing. I've thought about …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:00 PM
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You just have to show that you’re capable of being a normal person who can live in the moment and be fun ^ this is the fucking key, methinks. don't be a "well ackshually". let things slide, let people be people, enjoy yourself, and when an opportunity arises (and they do arise), let your intellect shine. people will be rapt with attention as you go off on some subject that they don't know about but you do, and you'd be amazed at how many people are curious about shit you'd never think they'd be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:50 PM
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It really just comes down to intelligent people needing to trust their intuition more and knowing when to turn their analytical side off. not to sound like the nerdy "well ackshually" turd, but i'm reminded of the Bertram Russell quote: "The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:50 PM
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I think there's a lot of playing fast and loose with "it's because of", so let me simply add my two cents and hypothesize that a possible scenario of this is that high IQ men are probably somewhat choosy themselves, don't want to fuck everything in sight and aren't keen on possibly getting murked with 18 years of child support with a woman they can't be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:48 PM
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Every person on Earth would be pansexual/sapiosexual sapiosexual isn't a thing, but otherwise, I have good news.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:23 PM
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that's not how this works 94% of rape accusations don't result in convictions because 94% of rape accusations don't result in convictions but thanks for the added data point that lends credence to my assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 10:44 PM
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in the court of public opinion or through legal remedies like forbidding no-fault divorce? in the case of the former, sure, the latter, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:39 PM
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The average yearly car payment is $5,160. YOOOOOO good shit, i gave the dealership a hard time >:)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:38 PM
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for real if he wants to make a claim about causes, it would behoove him to find evidence to support that - otherwise i'm going to make the wild assumption that his assumptions will be tailored to his pre-existing biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:37 PM
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i mean, socialists were snarky to me back when i was a right-libertarian. that didn't invalidate the logic of their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:35 PM
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it does, but i would argue that some sites citing shit without any link back to the source material are not particularly great sources of evidence. it's something, yes, and I think I might've found that Massachusetts study, but even that's a stretch (Massachusetts is not, say, Mississippi, no matter how many S's they share). Still, it's SOMETHING, and plenty of that data IS supported by peer-reviewed studies, and the "boo hoo men are discriminated against" crowd can provide sources of their own.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:34 PM
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Even if the points made are valid and the data supports it, the general snarkiness dotted throughout the post does nothing but undermine the poster's efforts. tone policing is what i'd expect them to resort to, rather than addressing the arguments. plus, this isn't the Royal Society, it's the internet. it's not like they're the bastions of civility and intellectual discourse that they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:31 PM
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OP's post is mostly correct. I will say that I prefer peer-reviewed sources (law firm web pages are not the most reputable, and are second-hand) and there are... shockingly few of those around that are accessible, but broadly speaking having done my own research it does appear to be pretty accurate with respect to what I've found. Patriarchy gonna patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:30 PM
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same - i work for a living
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:15 PM
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and social mores exist for good reason, which why we don't tell people to go fucking kill themselves just because they don't live up to some standard of ours. it's impolite and unkind to put it VERY mildly, and society has to have some level of agreement to function. that social lubrication is small talk. When someone asks you how your day is doing, you say "fine". When someone you don't really know is asking you for dating advice, you say "just be yourself". It's the people who really know you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:32 PM
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their poor partners :|
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:33 PM
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it's also fucken weeeiiiird
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:32 PM
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People sometimes assume that history is moving in a straight line: that we used to be conservative and we'll be moving in a more progressive direction until we reach the ultimate utopian goal. "end of history" moronic liberals, maybe - anyone functionally aware of history knows damn well that the fascists could still win. I believe that sexual morality has become so complicated and impossible to navigate that we'll be soon seeing a return to conservative sexuality. as long as women vote and work…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:58 PM
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Equal rights under the law? Yes. Equal as in value of human life? Yes. yeah conservatives don't believe in these two, which are the central parts. no one on the left is arguing that i can run as fast as Usain Bolt, or that I'm as smart as Stephen Hawking, just that I should have the same rights that they do under the law and the same opportunities in education, employment, criminal prosecution, etc. conservatives don't think that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:32 PM
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Yes the fundamental belief in human equality and that the law and overall social structure should reflect that is a fundamental left-wing value. It's like, THE defining differentiator between right-wing and left-wing politics. Right-wingers do not, fundamentally, believe in equality - whether they're Libertarians who think that the modern aristocracy deserves their position, or just bog-standard Republicans who think that the modern aristocracy deserves their position AND the state should harm L…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:10 PM
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I'm not suggesting they are, they're very much real and saver working to reconstruct a social hierarchy that they'd like to see enforced by state violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:44 PM
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Depends on the men those ones? no, they're fucking chuds, why would i listen to shitty chuds?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:42 AM
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eh i think it's a big deal, tbh, but as OP posits, I think loneliness is a big issue. i'm a dirty commie tho so i blame capitalism, natch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:35 AM
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What do you mean not able to open their own checking account? this only took like two fucking seconds of googling https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open-a-bank-account/ but of course, right-winger, i'm not surprised you're unwilling to incorporate uncomfortable facts into your breathtakingly shitty race to be the worst fucking person Women could open whole bank only for women and legally there would be no problem. pretty fucking sure it'd be an illegal problem, actually: ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:55 PM
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Sleep soundly darling that wont happen. that's what you lot fucking said about Roe v. Wade. I mean, I knew conservatives are duplicitous dirtbags then, too, so thanks, but action rather than apathy will ensure that that won't happen. Regarding your whole political rant, you dont seem to understand the difference between liberalism and leftist economics. Funny, I'd argue the same about you. I am not saying america is economically left. I know they are very much a capitalist country. I am talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:32 PM
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does... this study... say that? because i read: Irrespective of weight status, men tended to focus on the unattractive body regions—a pattern reported by Jansen et al. [17] for females with higher levels of disordered eating. To cope with the negative emotional feelings associated with the confrontation with their own physical flaws, they direct their gaze to their attractive body regions. also, i don't think the study is necessarily demonstrating anything surprising, but We recruited 28 normal-…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:13 PM
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Are you another delusional western liberal who thinks you are the underdogs, the revolutionaries? Liberals have absolute hegemony on american politics culture media etc. i wish that were true, i could care about tinkering with my Raspberry Pis and get free healthcare instead of worrying about fascist theocracy coming to the states in 2024. Of course, it's not true, it's total bullshit thanks to Republican voter suppression efforts across the country and control of SCOTUS by conservatives. Usa do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:42 PM
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Fine Moroccan woman? Checks out. Good shit, broski.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:17 PM
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it'd be fine. it'd also be empty, performative aesthetics by a soulless corporation. pride twitter avatar energy, we know it's to sell you on some other fucking commodity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:16 PM
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one can both be positive about other people's existences and also want to smash capitalism for being objectively bad in fact, one often tracks with the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:13 PM
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(to push a right-wing narrative that no actually women are totes happier being submissive homemakers commanded by men)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:10 PM
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we don't follow the actual definitions of fallacies 'round these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:10 PM
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Those right wingers dont have any power. this is absolute nonsense, laughable at absolute best Abortion is still legal in all but 17 states. oh no, they've only managed to oppress women in a third of the states how terrible for them Women get lesser punishment for teh same crime, no draft legitimate inequities, we should address these as well as racial inequities in sentencing fleece men in divorce settlement not true, men win alimony all the time and are LIKELIER than women to win child custody…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:44 PM
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i mean lol yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:36 PM
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This is not about labor. Yes, it is. Labor is a huge part of most men's lives, and as you get older it and other aspects of adult life take more and more time that would otherwise be spent with people one loves - socializing, being human, working on projects. The capitalist loathes nothing more than a worker not "being productive" on something that can be commoditized, they barely view you as human. In this post they said that because men are in power they should use it to “promote the interest …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:34 PM
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both of these receptions are good feminism is awesome, misogyny is cringe and shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:30 PM
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elites do not work for the common people, of which the majority of men are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:30 PM
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lol wtf do you think men are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:26 PM
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how terrible for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:26 PM
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seriously i'm pretty fucking feminist and anti-conservative, but come the fuck on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:25 PM
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they are, at least as long as we're letting theocratic freaks have their way over reproductive rights, contraceptives, etc. and where it is not remotely uncommon to see right-wingers lamenting women in the workforce or women's suffrage as long as shit like that exists, they have a fucking point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:24 PM
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Nah. What that poster is saying is not unreasonable. Women expect that from men for women, why is it inconceivable to expect that in the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:23 PM
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break capitalism, form male support groups, join (good) causes, make friends, hang out, WORK out!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:22 PM
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And you’re mentioning men controlling the wealth. That’s a small number of men. men vote more Republican than women. Not that Democrats aren't corporate whores, but they're damn sure better at extracting a pound of flesh from corporate exploiters via unions and social programs than fuckin' Republicans are. Even so you are suggesting these men create a system to put more men in power to promote their interests which would erase the equality we currently have. that doesn't follow at all. pro-labor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:20 PM
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Agreed. Ideally by not turning to Andrew Tate-esque fuckwads - they're charlatan grifters who offer nothing meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:19 PM
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High birth rate sub-cultures don't use public schools. Yes, they do, because the economics of them are far too advantageous to miss out on, especially for working class members of those groups as capitalism continues to squeeze them. As far as conservatives trying to ban reality when it doesn't suit them, like, yeah, no shit dude, they're conservatives, if they had the maturity top change their views in the face of overwhelming evidence, they wouldn't be conservatives. They depend on authoritari…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:16 PM
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It's happening radically fast enough that the biosphere, on which human civilization is absolutely dependent, cannot adapt. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:48 PM
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I didn't say it was going to be soon - but unchecked global warming is predicted to lead to the aridification of what is NOW productive farmland. Also, it's a hell of a take to suggest that fires terraforming previously unproductive regions of the Earth are only good, and that their root cause (global warming) won't have negative effects elsewhere. The broad consensus of climate experts do not support that position. Hopefully we're decades out from any significant climate-caused food insecurity,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:05 PM
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I think it's more sexual frustration and revenge fantasies fomented by for-profit social media algorithms and people who are and always have been catastrophically bad at identifying problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:33 PM
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The wealthy do not care about the material security of the people they exploit - and in the short term, population will grow, not decline. I remember when there were six billion people on Earth. There are now eight billion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:31 PM
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Fucking seriously dude. I wanna build a self-sustaining commune with gardens, tilapia, and solar power, and I want to tend to it with my co-equal partner between magnificent fuck sessions. what the fuck is with all these chuds wanting full fascism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:54 AM
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Nah, that shit isn't going to go away - but the problem with evil us that it inevitably sows the seeds of its own destruction. Capitalism arguably has more to do with declining birth rates than movies with gay people in them, via purposelessness thru alienation of labor and meaningless toil for survival, to microplastics, forever chemicals, and reduced air quality due to fossil fuel use and conservative deregulation of clean air policies. Capitalism is unsustainable. They won't willingly give up…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:52 AM
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Nah I'm pretty sure the climate crisis will bring capitalism to its knees if something doesn't earlier. Downside: desperate, resource-deprived people can very, very, very easily be swayed by the promises of fascism and place blame on an outgroup. I think the left has the good graces of being factually and morally right, but the right is the easier path, and why people choose it - especially if they're not the target of the right's hate and vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:47 AM
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Our culture has a pretty good record of being pretty dominant. Second, third generation immigrants are pretty Americanized - and accredited educational standards are not something you can just wish away. Conservatives have tried for literal decades, but education works. Pretty hard to believe women are subhuman or that the Earth is 6,000 years old when you show people anthropological, historical, geologic, evolutionary, and astrophysical evidence. ...which is why authoritarian conservatives obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:43 AM
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And I'm for increased security for that reason. I'm not opposed to strict but fair punishment for that kind of shit, even while I'm fully supportive of much, MUCH bigger social welfare programs that might help these people with housing, training, healthcare, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:39 PM
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But how come guys standards are lower, for casual sex compared to dating, knowing they have would pay child support though? Do a lot of guys have the attitude, well it's just money, so who cares? I don't think guys consciously think that, but we certainly feel it. Also, I do tend to subscribe to the notion that we're a little more primally driven to have sex a lot more, and little brain can sometimes... fog... rational thoughts a lot of the time, especially if the prospects of an intimate experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:10 PM
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It's pretty irrelevant across the board. Being nice is the bare fucking minimum, it is what's expected to and from absolute strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:05 PM
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They are and should be - they bear the potential nine month plus 18 year cost of having a child. Dudes can complain about child support, buuut... 24% of fathers pay their child support "occasionally" or "not at all", so the concern about that is definitely understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing some security personnel on trains to put out some accountability for creeps, though. They're a big part of the image problem public transportation has in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:04 PM
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And you cant and shouldnt apply "first world country" logic in every fucking post. "first world country" is some pretty racist, sociologically-centering bullshit as-is, anyways. like i mostly love my country (America), minus the conservatives and conservative ideals that we hold to (imperialism, veneration of elites, hyper-individualism) - but we're fucking not the center of the world and we are profoundly ignorant, as a people, about how other people live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:02 PM
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Which, it doesn't say. Amazing what actually reading the fucking post might do, if you gave a shit about engaging in good faith, which you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:12 PM
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But those who mean well in their rhetoric but are missing the nuance either will not or cannot bring themselves to actually communicate a working model of what that looks like. this is incumbent on men, not women, to do. i think we need good masculine guides, and that masculinity needn't be Andrew Tate overt misogyny nor /r/MensLib doormat prostration. It is more than possible to tweak traditional masculinity into a modern context that is sexually attractive without being sexist or some weird, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:25 PM
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It also doesn't say that OP sucks, and it's pretty fucking clear what they're saying, and it's not what you're saying they're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:21 PM
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nuance for me but not for thee
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:20 PM
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OH MY FUCKING GOD IT'S LIKE YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THE FUCKING POST
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:19 PM
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honestly solid take, if you read that sentence in context
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:19 PM
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Yes, I happen to believe women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:51 AM
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No fault divorce is an objectively good thing, the rates of female suicide declined significantly after its passage because they were no longer trapped in often abusive marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:38 AM
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Pedro Pascal in what fucking universe is that man not a traditionally attractive hunk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:19 PM
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that deal is literally still on the table, it's called "marriage" and you have to work to get it just because women can vote and have checking accounts now doesn't mean marriage isn't a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:18 PM
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I really don't think so. I just think women can sate that desire much, much more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:18 PM
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Definitely agree, as a dude, a ton of men in the past and in my generation are super fucking entitled if not outright misogynistic to a downright creepy and concerning degree. Many more are just woefully uneducated on basic female anatomy or relationship expectations, and are stuck spinning their wheels on outdated concepts of relationships. Men need a good movement to guide them, but so far every "masculinity guide" just reverts to classic misogyny and sexism and calls it revolutionary just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:14 PM
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Social media all depends on how you use it. Nah. If you use it at all, you're getting what the algorithm gives you, rather than a dispassionate display of posts from people and things you give a shit about - and that algorithm is designed to piss you off, because anger is overwhelmingly more likely to result in engagement and time on-screen than any other emotional response. I don't think social media is inherently bad, but I do think the current incarnation of social media is inherently bad, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:45 PM
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ah yes, the ol' "she broke my heart so now i'm a misogynist" arc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:33 PM
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Social media in general is fucking terrible, and should probably be nationalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:31 PM
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oh i found love. then i fucked it up. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:39 PM
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homegirl this is not just on "the men" nature is brutal, capitalism is brutaler, blame the lack of early childhood nutrition in this country
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:47 PM
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they are made by businesses because there is a market for it. a market, for people to just... go places.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:46 PM
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Hah, undoubtedly also part of it. They gotta sell 'em, too, and yeah, of fucking course we dudes want to be jacked heroes who bone the girl in the end. They're gonna make way more movies like that than literally fucking any exploring the male condition and challenging the masculinity status quo. I DO think the "woke left" has at best ignored male issues or offered just asinine advice, and at worst actively reveled in the schadenfreude at male suffering, and I'm happy to criticize that. Doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:21 AM
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ah. I post a picture to Instagram like, twice a year
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:19 AM
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Probably not in such quantity, no. People want a feel good story, they watch movies and TV in large part to escape the brutal and less comfortable realities of life. You get some movies and TV where you do - but most are hero wins and hero fucks girl, oo-rah, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:43 AM
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i am not going to wife someone who i can't have an adult conversation with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:42 AM
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women, like most people, probably center themselves when they think about other people including men. their experience is almost certainly greater and more diverse, and they just assume that's most people's experience, including men's. it's not, but that's... a pretty human thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:42 AM
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Reality: Opening up like a little bitch only works for women and will get you rejected by women straight away operative term here is "like a little bitch", not opening up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:40 AM
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Yeah. Good advice, but by itself not particularly useful. Be good, yes, but also... be interesting. Also don't be an un-hygienic pile of slop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:40 AM
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they have to sell movies, yo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:37 AM
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I'm probably old enough to be a teenager's parent, and I know damn well that social media is affecting... well, everyone. To think teenagers are immune to it when they're almost certainly the MOST affected by it is laughable. Facebook fucking debuted when I started attending college, you lot fuckin' grew up with it and are teenagers at a time when the algorithms are well in place and VERY sophisticated compared to early social media. That absolutely affects you, and it absolutely transmits the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:35 AM
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Men often talk about how they've been misinformed about so many things. It's like society hands us a set of expectations and beliefs that don't always match up with what really happens in the reality. I mean, this place made a pretty good point once about the "Disney-esque" movies who feature a main character, almost always some kind of different nerdy and awkward male, who gets the girl up and over the jock, and back when I was a light TRP libertarian nerd, I was upset about that, it felt misle…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:32 AM
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completely false, given that women are people. the whole "blue pill will get hurt more and therefore more resentful of women" thing is partially true for some generally left-leaning people, but that's because they still internalize an entitlement to another human being - e.g. a woman. they don't accept that she has self-ownership, and it's something we men generally have to still figure out, because as "woke" as this brave new world is, even leftist dudes still hold some reactionary internalized…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:22 AM
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maybe in, like, high school
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:30 PM
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i think if you're terminally online, you would probably think that way, but it is definitely not 90 percent of women these days
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:08 PM
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Woman then says: "Oh.. but i already have one/two fuckbuddy's so no need for a third.. i'm however open to date you seriously." eject bro, she ain't wife material lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:06 PM
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Like, nah, that's not true. I mean SOME dudes certainly do, but some dudes legit want to be "husband material." Those dudes would also object to being the safe, boring pick after decades of being overlooked for party fun time, that's a reasonable objection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:06 PM
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almost anyone can glam up with some basic hygiene, diet, and workouts. maybe he doesn't, maybe his personality sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:43 PM
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They all looked differently as well. Not all of them are men for starters. bless this level of freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:42 PM
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deafening silence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:23 PM
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Yes. On the flip side, those of us who don't have brain worms understand that gender cooperation is mutually beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:21 PM
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Should women run the C-suite of a company where most of the muscle comes from men? I don't think the c-suite should exist, but as long as it does... do you have any idea how many members of it have never wielded an impact driver in their lives? Again, why is your focus on whether or not someone's a woman here? The hypothetical I proposed is more along the lines of "women mostly want desk/office jobs. At what point will white-collar work be seen as a 'female job' and blue-collar work as a 'male j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:19 PM
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They aren't getting bossed around by women. By and large, men are still the ones in control of most corporations and the government, and to the extent that women would be the ones in charge, it's pretty supremely bitchy to flip the table and take your toys to go home just because a woman would be running things. Having wet dreams about some mass male uprising involving abuse of women is just sad, especially when the greatest abuses against men have come from the other men who currently reside in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:04 AM
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Pretty sure that's not the only alternative, and your standard of "equal participation in physical labor" is pretty arbitrary. I guess the guys who don't do physical labor are also on your list of people undeserving of rights? Not that that's what physical laborers are actually fighting for, while you simp and beg to be dominated by capitalists who could care less if you live or die building wind turbines or mining coal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:55 PM
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for real. life is magnificent, and it's about more than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:33 PM
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no one is you are a social creature poisoned by a hyper individualist society that deprives you of community and engagement with that community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:32 PM
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yeah no shit i have to have hope that my gender will wake the fuck up and stop being such enormous weeners but goddamn read enough of this andrew tate nonsense gurgling out of rando commenters and it's pretty easy to get down on my optimism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:30 PM
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because when it comes to blaming women or blaming rapacious capitalists, naturally, we blame the women smh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:29 PM
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but it might not bring out the best in men to have the cards stacked in their favor. and, historically, didn't. what was accepted back then was, shockingly, terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:34 PM
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but i didn't ignore that, it doesn't matter - they are human, they have rights, they have autonomy. if they don't, you don't. and, realistically, you don't - since the malaise isn't from the enfranchisement of our sisters in humanity, but from our alienation from labor and our continued toil in the service of wealthy elites who deny us autonomy and a stake in the society labor makes possible. seriously, like, what's your solution? laws forbidding women from working? go on, let's hear it bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:33 PM
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So I said that a single income no longer being enough to support a family is because of feminism, and your literally agreeing with me that it tanked wages, so what’s your contention? that you place the blame on women understandably wanting rights, rather than on our selection of economic system that values human beings like commodities. wages falling matters only because of that economic system, and given the choice to blame one or the other... you blamed, the women? and casually make a play for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:30 PM
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First off, they didn't "suddenly" double the potential workers. It was gradual, and of fucking course it tanked wages - that doesn't change the fact that women wanting to work to have financial independence, like any reasonable adult human being, remains completely a completely fucking normal and good thing to do. So, again, this doesn't fall on the women, who are human beings, and who understandably want equal rights, it falls upon the greed inherent in capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:24 PM
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also latinas are smokin' hot and, sorry, but i don't begin to imagine that i could live in a theocratic country. saudi women are also hot, if you can see them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:18 PM
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right, but rich men are ghouls, so tomato tomahto
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:17 PM
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No, homie, it was caused by capitalism. Women wanting equal rights as human beings isn't the problem here, business owners wanting workers to work more for stagnating pay while housing prices soar through the roof while investment frat boiz buy up all their "investment properties" is definitely the moral failure here, not women wanting to have jobs, checking accounts, and to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:16 PM
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the number of sentences in this post that can be directly attributed to capitalism makes me weep
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:15 PM
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Probably both, tbh. I don't know how you have this turbo feminist "you GO girl!" society that, at least performatively (but also, like, very much actually, by the numbers) celebrates women as much as it does, NOT have women also understanding their value and demanding higher quality partners. There's also undoubtedly more women finding other women as partners in a society that's increasingly accepting of LGBT relationships, which takes some out of the heterosexual dating pool. On the flip side, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:13 PM
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It’s crazy how people just don’t move on let it linger. not that crazy, emotions are hard and rejection sucks. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:25 PM
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yeah, this talking point reeks of bitter, online misogynist cope for men who see women as bad for not fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:23 PM
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There's no "rise of weak men." The vast majority of the populous is weak-willed. You can't have a populace of only revolutionaries. It wouldn't work. Louder for the people in the back. Great man history, by itself, is meaningless claptrap - material conditions matter far, far more and the material conditions we live under, even WITH significantly better gender egalitarian laws (which OP and his ilk likely want to roll back), STILL precipitate a race FROM the bottom. If you had a pussy in demand …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:15 PM
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no, this would be like trying to bring rents down by refusing to demand it, which is unrealistic - people need housing, which is an inelastic good, regardless of whatever economic system you happen to be living under. the way you actually bring rents down is by expropriating property and abolishing rents, but we understandably and correctly distinguish between property and people - we cannot and should not expropriate women's bodily autonomy, but in a flatter society (say, one in which we abolis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:09 PM
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Not anymore at the moment ,I have a gf. ah, a top 20%-er speaks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:06 PM
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I should clarify, earnings are not the only input of relationship contribution. You are a human being, not a machine that does work things and spits money out. She's dating a human being, not a machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:10 PM
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but being broke sucks, dude, even if you're not attaching it to some hopeful concept of "getting a partner", being single and being broke is the worst kind of "spin your wheels" kind of working class stagnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:01 PM
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I am, I don't pretend to be welcome in so-called "manosphere" spaces. I think women are people, and should have rights, and equality before the law. That position sort of counts me out of those places.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:57 PM
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if we're dipshits who limit the sum total of human experience to "who dies more on the job", then sure, good point, but I, for one, am not trying to be some winner on the oppression olympics which means recognizing, understanding, empathizing with, and seeking to ameliorate the injustices faced by women, too. i do wonder what outlawing no-fault divorce has to do with workplace deaths, because i'm pretty sure we can mitigate occupational hazard without putting those horrible harpies back in the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:48 PM
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Those standards really have not changed and they really have not changed from our social sexual dating script either and that's my point. While not untrue, it's worth pointing out that current social and romantic dynamics are probably some thousands of years in the making, at this point. Women getting the right to vote in 1919 is the blink of an eye at that timescale, and we're effectively right at the beginning of what that change is going to mean for us. I'm not trying to blame women but you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:41 PM
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it's mostly financial constraints from me, and part of that is my chosen career field which keeps me in pricier urban environments (although even in cheaper, less populous areas i can reliably count on the salary to be commensurately lower), and because... i really can't rent out an apartment to someone for ideological reasons. i don't want to exploit another person. 🤷 probably stupid, since one less landlord will do nothing to blunt the supply of housing held by all the rest of them, but shit. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:03 PM
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Honestly man, I'm gonna be real: I think the first part of this post is like, uhhh, get the fuck out of my head why is this so real and exactly how I feel... but I don't think those 40 year old girlbosses are struggling at all. Worst case, they're pretty average looking and don't get the ripped guy that they're dreaming of, but that's... that's normal. Women are doing pretty well in the modern world, although AI might throw a big wrench into some of that - a lot of mental work is going to change…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:58 PM
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I mean, I'd describe myself as a cisgender, mostly heterosexual (it's on a spectrum) Libertarian Socialist. I want to be married, with a wife, and it's not even fucking close. I don't want a same-sex partner, I'd struggle personally accepting a trans woman as a partner, and I don't even want to think of my early death at the ripe old of of 47 if I tried to dip my toe into the stresspool of polyamorous dynamics. I'm pretty boring. But, I have no desire to see people who identify as transgender, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:33 PM
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...yes they can?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:27 PM
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fucking boss af this is like complaining that John Brown armed slaves who went on to lead a slave revolt, based af something right-wingers should appreciate, a good Barry Goldwater quote: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice" we just arguably have differing opinions on what "liberty" means, I just think it means "women should be allowed to have checking accounts and vote"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:24 PM
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What I have seen said is that women are upset and creeped out when sex is the primary focus of men instead of getting to know the woman. this is a bit of a gentle way to put it. i think /u/Illustrious_Wish_383 got it right in their comment: "Male sexuality is viewed as gross or predatory at worst, a nuisance at best unless the man in question is attractive, charismatic, or both." The only difference I have with OP (and /u/Illustrious_Wish_383) is that I don't necessarily see this as a woman-only…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:14 PM
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I bet you are one of those people who believes that punishing the whole class accomplishes something huh? I bet you're one of those people who responds to the arguments arguments presented by your opposition in good faith. /s When you are encroaching on shit that doesn't concern you I'd say it's relevant as fuck. When you're literally "discussing" taking people's rights away, it certainly does concern them. And also, it's not hard to protect discussion forums from view from unauthenticated accou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:53 PM
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I wonder how much of her attraction was his gym toned body. or his commitment to self-improvement, probably a bit of both, which is okay. realistically? ten years ago i would've said 90% to pull bitches, 10% for health. now i'm ten years older, and it's probably 40% to pull women, 60% i don't want to be a dead bag of sadness in twenty years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:59 PM
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Yes, but do you think in situations where work hours and incomes are roughly equivalent, the average male can be socialized to truly carry 50% of the overall domestic burden? 100% yes the only reason it doesn't seem so is because we're socialized not to, and are the direct descendants of thousands of years of men who were also socialist not to. that can change, but it will take time. i do not think that the men who put in 80 hours a week to figure out how to most profitably exploit some workforc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:48 PM
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earnings != relationship contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:46 PM
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in some way, they probably are, that's a beauty of humanity. do you have any idea how many "ways" there are to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:01 PM
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personally don't see how either of these songs are harmful. it's just a fantasy and there's nothing wrong with fantasies so long as we don't confuse them with reality and then get mad about it. but this, this right here, takes the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:00 PM
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I never said there was. But I wasn't doing any of that. I was asking with regard to our exchange. I think the only thing I said was merely agreement with /u/sublimemongrel that "denouncement" is, effectively, just "criticism" and is itself just "free speech", with a caveat that "the usual suspects" (conservatives) associate it with not being free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:42 PM
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Scary when men voice what they actually think in a world that just keeps censuring us more and more, right? More "scary" that it's all fascist, reactionary shit, blaming others, that inevitably boils over into the real world. Shockingly, the targets of such fascist, reactionary shit aren't too keen on a bunch of dipshits (you do not speak for all men) questioning their humanity or right to exist. The manosphere is not supposed to be for women's eyes or ears anyway. literally irrelevant Here's an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:35 PM
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I simply said it doesn't critic when it comes to women crimes against men tl;dr "interest groups are self-interested," news at ten
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:25 PM
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OK... and what happens if those nutcases don't agree with you? Are you are in favor of censoring them, or no? They usually do, and no, though I will argue that "Twitter banning overt racists in order to make a palatable social media environment for their advertiser customers" is not, in fact, "censorship" in any legal sense of the word. We should have the good sense to make polite, public society uncomfortable and difficult for people who harbor extremist, dogshit points of view, but I note cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:24 PM
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It's one thing to disagree and express criticism; it's another thing to demand a swath of people do XYZ because you say so. Those are literally the same thing. What is criticism, if not an attempt at persuasion through critical and, ultimately, negative association of a certain position? You're just objecting that people should be let off the hook for not having credible responses to criticism, which is, I mean, just the chef's kiss distillation of conservative political culture. "It's MAH OPINI…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:23 PM
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Not necessarily, it only critiqued itself on how it organises in helping women not theories of patriahcy or how women are oppression it was not, and is not, obligated to critique itself in ways that make it more comfortable to you ...when it comes to crimes against men they don't say anything and, shockingly, when we discuss Critical Race Theory (like, the actual kind, not the dumbass conservative Fox News version of it) we're not really talking about racial crimes against whites, because broadl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:16 PM
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For one, they aren't. Literally no one of any significance is calling for that, that isn't even a widely supported concept WITHIN feminist circles - contrary to the manosphere, which wants to, like, go back to denying women checking accounts, voting rights, and no-fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:09 AM
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bruh i am not, in any way, defending red pill ideology, i think it's dogshit - red pill isn't "men"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:35 AM
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Well the manosphere isn't actually even a real thing... That's convenient, it totally doesn't exist now, six comments into a conversation about it? Neat
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:32 AM
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That's nice, they still vote for and empower wild psychopaths who... DO believe in, and deploy political action towards, those things. I don't have to like conservatives to want them to have dignified lives, for me to want them to have a fair wage, workplace safety, housing, access to education and healthcare, etc. I wish they were better, I wish they weren't virulent theocratic psychopaths coming after LGBT people, I wish they brought their better traits to the table but sorry dude, nobody but …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:28 AM
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If they were entertainers doing entertainment, you'd have a point. As they are deliberately pushing an ideology, or a way of living... you do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:15 AM
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Of course my bad All those bloggers and YouTubers with huge subscriber bases are a figment of my imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:07 AM
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I know. I guess in principle, I'm not either, but I'm not going to lose sleep over Twitter or Facebook banning Nazis. To the extent that conservatives get swept up in that, eh, conservatives support Nazi-like things, so that's hardly surprising. No one's getting banned for whining about top marginal income tax rates or inefficient U.S. sugar policy, they're getting banned for being bigots. I support free speech, but you don't get free speech in a capitalist society where social networks make the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:05 AM
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Lol bruh Manospherian thought leaders are almost universally misogynists. Andrew Tate is a spectacular piece of shit, yet, hero yup the manosphere. Maybe it isn't the media. Maybe you're defending people who harbor dogshit views?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:56 AM
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This is an easy, but false, explanation. The waves are indeed critiques of prior feminist theory, and society has a ways to go to realize equality for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:55 AM
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Lol yup pretty much Men need a movement, not just to improve themselves in a changing world but to determine their collective and individual identity. Leave it to men to have fucked that one up, too. Manosphere is way too misanthropic via misogyny towards half of humanity, and MensLib is just like... a bit much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:53 AM
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Nah. Theocrats are fascists, and can and should fuck off forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:51 AM
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ah yes, a hashtag that's basically like murder 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:51 AM
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I mean, I'll paint conservatives as a whole as negative because of their stated beliefs. The same is true of the manosphere. Wanting to improve men is a noble goal. Shitting on the other half of humanity in service to that goal isn't. That's the part people have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:50 AM
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Right. Deplatforming works. Their speech is intact, Nazis cam build their own Mastodon server that no one will interact with, to scream into the void about how the Jews are the source of all their ills. We certainly don't need to pollute mainstream social networks with their bile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:48 AM
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Breathtaking how the usual suspects from the usual ideologies consistently associate "criticism" with "censorship" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:47 AM
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That actually doesn't matter, but for what it's worth, the expressed sentiment is correct, and I'm a heterosexual cisgender man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:46 AM
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So to echo a poster below: by the time AI is good enough to really work for women, men would have jumped ship a long time ago. Again, I'm not of the school that men OR women "will jump ship". The awareness that you're not dealing with something that's human will still be there, for whatever that's worth - and I do think that that matters. You can't reproduce with an AI, at least for now, and THAT'S probably something that's pretty far into the future - far enough that by the time we're dealing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 11:07 PM
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Women complaining about guys not picking up on hints and body language and OP thinks a cold calculating machine is going to be better than that? you have no idea how good AI can get lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:05 PM
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It can be a gamechanger and I personally think that we are at dawn of a new historical era, but you need to be pretty exact with your prompts to AI in order for it to unlock it's potential. This suggests that AI is going to stay the way it is today, and that's a bit of a reach, given how good it's gotten in, like... months. I think we'll probably have pretty adept romantics and even sexually proficient sex robots that will almost certainly be aided by AI and increasingly tailor-made AI silicon. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:05 PM
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I’m sorry this has been your experience but my friends don’t speak in such a way. None of my female friends are man haters nor think “all men suck”. by no means am I a red piller or anything of the sort, but it is batshit insane to claim that dunking on men, as a group entirely, is not a pastime enjoyed part and parcel by a staggering amount of women. Like, it's whatever, I'm all about feminism and women's liberation and shit, but "women are _____" is a statement that is, correctly, not received…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:44 PM
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i mean, yeah, that's why we should strive for a humanist, flat, and equal society. stop venerating only protection and physical strength, there is value in being a well-rounded person who appreciates the arts or is intellectual. all these greek statues that chuds have in their profile pictures were men who are almost certainly deified and likely weren't as ripped as their simulacra imply, and most certainly WERE well-read and had very good intellectual chops. that's ANOTHER area where modern men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:00 PM
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i don't think TRP disputes that women can and do use men for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:57 PM
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Doable, maybe once a year. You're paying half your monthly in rent or mortgage, and likely don't have much more than two or three weeks PTO in the year, and other priorities are likely consuming some of that income.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:30 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:13 PM
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But ultimately that is not changing that another man out there will always jump at the opportunity if a woman gives that opportunity, regardless if you, or I did not. irrelevant to the point at hand, we're talking about Hypothetical Guy, Hypothetical Guy can choose not to be an orbiter. So can Hypothetical Next Guy. Leading men on, is a reference to women who like the chase. I'm aware of to what you're referring. I'm objecting to this notion that all women do this and the poor menz are blameless…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:01 PM
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yes (profit-driven algorithm) social media bad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:43 PM
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you're implying motive (pretty inspecifically "leading men on" - what does this mean? how do we objectively determine that this is the case?) and assigning agency to women while denying it to men ("they are too afraid to point blank reject a man" vs "you do not choose to be an orbiter - because most occasions happen where the woman is in control" - the man has agency, and is giving her that control, he can choose not to). congrats, you got me to type out why your post is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:42 PM
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this guy travels
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:13 PM
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For reasonably wealthy, propertied people, sure. Median income in the United States is something like $55,000/year. Nobody's sex tourisming on that salary lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:12 PM
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this is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:11 PM
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^ this lol men are men whether they're gay or straight imo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:05 PM
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nah. we all WANT that movie ending finish, where everyone sees the error of their ways and everyone lives happily ever after, but in reality, changes in perspective take place gradually according to a curve. you will probably not be able to eradicate sexism, but you will probably be able to mitigate it to the point that only a very, very, VERY small part of the population exhibits it. we're pretty close to there as far as overt sexism goes, although that's made a troubling resurgence ("eternal v…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:57 PM
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nah. some of it is undoubtedly the changing world of gender and sexual norms, and dudes raised by men who didn't have to deal with that shit (for better or for worse) are just woefully unprepared to deal with rising female enfranchisement into society as well as the rising spotlight and acceptance among LGBT persons. these are unambiguously good things! but, i do contend that contemporary millennial men were hopelessly unprepared to deal with it. Some have thrived in it, others have merely endur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:01 PM
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bigger risk is staying alone and never going for it because of all the ills that could happen this applies to almost anything in life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:53 PM
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it's both relationships are work, and part of that work is understanding what your partner actually wants. that is absolutely not just the man's responsibility, and anyone who says so is bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:52 PM
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less, usually and you either go deep red-pill or you realize that the broader system around us incentivizes these kinds of faux, consumerist relationships that are more about fast cars and resort stays than human soul bonding
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:51 PM
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"strictly talking about mechanically" bro wtf does that mean studies show that men are much happier in relationships, and from a purely subjective point of view, sex is great, and sharing life with other people makes it better - this is especially true if you can share life and your ups and downs with an intimate partner that you really vibe with. there's more to life than sex - but it very often cannot be had without others. guys who have "abundance" usually just keep having that abundance, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:48 PM
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This is the first time I've loaded this subreddit in months. Feels pretty awesome, tbh, but... man. Pretty cringe seeing this as the top topic. Lookin' like it'll be a few more months, tbh. I'mma keep binge watching DS9 and calling it a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:35 AM
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you'd kill the species EDIT: not necessarily a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 07:26 AM
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Because dudes who can get it, do, and dudes who can't, stew. Usually the stewing is not conducive to healthy, reasonable points of view - though it's probably not anymore healthy to think "women don't want me because I'm generally not a catch, or particularly special or valuable" than it is to think the TRPy incel thoughts. Men are pretty much born into an unwinnable situation, unless they are born hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 07:23 AM
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no it is for sure being hot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:29 PM
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Eh. I tend to think truth and transparency are stronger than lies and shadows. Lies and shadows always try, and for a time, succeed. But eventually, denial of truth admints to denial of reality - and reality i.e. truth, always wins out. Might seem cheesy, but information wants to be free, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:45 PM
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and that should terrify anybody that is paying attention. to the extent that it may suppress reasonable points of view, yes, but I think there is sufficient pushback against that. many people, even among democrats, progressives, and even socialists, are not wild about and openly criticize the social justice/identitarian movements that seek to place victimhood into everything. on the flip side, to the extent that it may suppress open bigots from publicly voicing their views... uh, I don't care. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:52 PM
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the internet cannot be strictly censored, black markets will allow uncontrolled connections. and, even then, the internet didn't kill religion - the enlightenment did. Free speech freedom of association etc, "God is dead" was spoken more than 100 years ago, well before the invention and widespread use of the internte.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:57 PM
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Yeah :( a friend of a friend was shot to death camping with his buddy because they befriended the guy at the next campsite over and he just ended up being crazy why are people fucking insane I'm about to move into a home alone and I'm considering telling people/my neighbors I live w my boyfriend that I don't have. gitchu a gun chica, don't give crazy campsite whackjobs the upper hand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:14 PM
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It won't, though. People in the past WERE legitimately concerned about the afterlife and what would happen to their soul at that point in ways that we cannot really appreciate as denizens of modernity. And that's what I'm saying - we're not just going to "go back" to some religion knowing what we know. The Muslims aren't anymore immune to this than we are, their powers of control and domination are limited and they are still humans - they will eventually cave to freedom and hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:10 PM
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this is widely advised against even as a male you could get hurt or rendered unable to contact help in which case you would die. the chances of this are greatly lowered if you have someone with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:58 PM
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Look at the stats for obesity and overweight in America. i have, again, this is specifically why i added that clarifier A lot of guys like lie to and tell themselves their GF/Wife is “thick” though lol. if you don't think there are differing preferences here... you're kidding yourself. there is such a thing as "too fat" which I think the majority of men are in agreement on, but there is "thick". That is a thing - think Jesikah Maximus or Laura Dore vs Margot Robbie or Kate Mara. All of them are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:48 PM
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truth is stronger than fiction, friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:41 PM
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Yuh, I tend to agree with that statement. Depends on how long you'd be trapped in the body but I tend to think women would not have a good time as a male, tbh. I think the best part for women would probably be... basically being ignored, not dealing with periods, and maybe being taller/stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:31 PM
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all the benefits of being a woman while getting all the benefits of being a man like, that sounds fucking great
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:29 PM
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What’s Appropriate? "Not fat", but that varies from man to man. And Again you can be skinny but average in the face. and celebs will fuck that. probably not the George Clooneys of the world, but the younger lesser-known band members or something? totally would. I knew a girl who was like, between average face and hot, like sort of attractive. she got to hang with some band whom I'd heard of in their hotel room in their jacuzzi and everything and she was regaling me with how nice they were and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:28 PM
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because if there are sex/race differences, than differences in socioeconomic outcomes between sexes and racial groups might have an explanation to them other than our society being horribly bigoted and unjust, which takes the wind out of the entire leftist/egalitarian worldview. to be clear a. there ARE biological differences between the sexes/races b. that does not make bigotry and unequal societal standards not ALSO components (but not complete explanations) of divergent socioeconomic outcomes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:24 PM
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The average woman in America is like overweight and obese lol. Hence why I said "average-looking but appropriate-weight" You go outside and see nothing but fatties, and that’s just the weight, I’m not talking about face I don't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:19 PM
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hahahahahaha wow lol honestly i kind of wish that the scifi body swap scenario could take place - we'd learn so much about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:15 PM
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You say that, but people are way too selfish, prideful and arrogant to follow logic. I think people are way too selfish, proud and arrogant to follow arbitrary rules set by people who came thousands of years before them. Unless people believe there is some godlike being making the rules and judging them, people will not care. They don't. That ship has sailed. Like, sorry, but honestly the only people who HONESTLY believe in God? Are the whackjob fundies. The casual Christians in life don't hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:14 PM
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i mean, yeah, they kinda are. I say "average hot girl" but I guarantee you some bumfuck nobody, non-top-20 musician has fucked everywhere from your hot bartender to the average-looking but appropriate-weight fangirl 'cuz pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:11 PM
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my friends are do or die motherfuckers man, i love them - i'm just saying "start-up/entrepreneur/VC space" is bullshit WHAT kind of start-ups/entrepreneurship/VC, because there's a million of them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:10 PM
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I don't know, there's probably different levels of it at different times. Like, four months in? I'm loyal, but if we broke up I might cry once and then be bummed that I'm not getting sex on the reg before remembering the joys of singlehood. Four YEARS in? That shit would be soul-crushing and it would take me a long time to come back from that. Shit, it has taken me a long time to come back from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:09 PM
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hard judgement, sorry LTRs are good and men should probably try to land them in their mid to late 20s and be married in their 30s unless they're Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:07 PM
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I work in start-up/entrepreneur/VC space. ah so bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:06 PM
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and for the love of God don't get married, marriage is a dead institution. this piece of advice worsens the game for men. i'm sorry, but marriage is absolutely the most pro-male institution in society. If 80-20 is real (and it is), then most men should be pro marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:04 PM
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'cuz they can
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:03 PM
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The average woman will never smash a dude in the “top 20%”, they don’t roll in the same circles. yeah they do, dude rockstar dudes will fuck rando average hot girls, that's what having a pussy gets you. A random average guy will never fuck Megan Fox or Margot Robbie, but an average hot girl actually DOES have a non-zero chance at fucking Robert Pattinson or Timothy Chalamet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:01 PM
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I mean, she's a little right there - Drake is probably a pretty interesting person. Also, potentially a pretty creepy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:01 PM
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you're not attractive because you haven't had sex with him, you're attractive because you're novel, you're new, you're something different. on the flip side, /u/Holler4Heller is right - men do become psychologically attracted to and protective of their partners over a long-term. doesn't make us incapable of cheating (because of our absurd sexual drive and the attractiveness of novelty/chance to spread our genes further - see above) - but what he's saying isn't untrue at least at a basic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:53 PM
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oh my god what a bunch of sanctimonious bullshit MOST dudes "think of you as an individual", that doesn't mean sex isn't on their mind or isn't an objective. that is an absolute non-clarifier, it literally means nothing and adds no substance to the difference between one dude or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:47 PM
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I mean she ain't wrong there dude but honestly that's the shit I see. There are more shit dudes out there than shit women - and there are more decent dudes who are single than shit dudes with a partner. It is amazing how many honestly decent dudes are out there that are single, while there are so many "mommy mcbangmaids" out there that are furiously loyal. I guess the crazy, stupid, shittiness is somehow attractive. I don't honestly get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:43 PM
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It is okay (as in it is not morally wrong for them to do this inherently), and it is fully expected if they possess that ability. People who can get sex like turning on a light will never not take advantage of that - the solution is not and cannot be to make everyone capable of getting sex like turning on a light. Pareto simply dictates that that literally won't ever happen - instead, a better approach is to make those who can't more okay with that aspect of themselves. This may also be an unsol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:41 PM
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Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. dude this is bullshit, cut the women are wonderful bs there are clear, empirically-established universal beauty standards that, yes, women, agree on. y'all are way the hell more looks oriented than y'all will literally ever admit to being - but that's okay, because the science already demonstrates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:09 PM
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I mean tbh it shouldn't That guy sounds like a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:06 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:03 PM
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Being "egalitarian" is not in and of itself a bad thing - I was using the term in that comment as to describe the way this hypothetical dude carries himself, as in "girl be sexually attracted to how good and feminist and egalitarian I am" which is, of course, a fucking bullshit approach and doesn't work. I would consider myself egalitarian, but what I consider egalitarian and what contemporary feminists consider egalitarian are not the same things. I would further argue that, no, it's not "liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:21 AM
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Who says other men care about fucking as much as you do? eyes I'm not even that all about sex, but seven as a guy, I still want it and i still compete for it. Guys that aren't all about the sex... are getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:54 AM
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it's slate, men aren't people there dude
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:48 PM
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I don't think we were ever meant for monogamy. We were bred for it, as a means of social pacification of males. Do we have evidence that "most men can find mates in the real world?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 09:12 PM
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80/20 happens because women are the selectors, men are the competitors. the competition is specifically to weed out the worst and select the best, as any competition is. nature does not hand out participation trophies, she's a notoriously brutal bitch. welcome to reality, sorry if you got born the wrong sex - it's a hella fucking bummer but hey, could be worse. you're conscious and get to experience the magic of being alive and able to assign purpose and meaning to things and yourself and your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 09:02 PM
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i agree with a lot of trp but my god i cant stand the cringe and drama same. honestly it's pretty much like that with almost all conservative adjacent politics in any field - like they OBVIOUSLY have a point and I kinda think anyone who doesn't even admit that is lying to themselves and others, but they're like dudes who take a joke too far and go all in on the cringe bullshit deep end. i got unfriended by this guy friend of mine who was convinced that the Beirut explosion was caused by "a DEW (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 09:11 PM
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i mean, that's fair man. but some drugs are damn sure for getting high, and some drugs are, like, whoa. i mean, don't get me wrong, some people still get way high on 'em, and those people fry their fucking brains because you can't live decades of life on acid and then come back to sobriety and be all chill and normal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 09:06 PM
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Honestly, is the 80/20 rule true? yeah, sorry dude. the study was on okcupid, but it's more-or-less vindicated by data in other areas as well. other, more scientific looks-rating studies found that women pretty consistently rate... about 80% of dudes as average or below, and you basically have 40% of dudes who have two or fewer sexual partners, the average is seven, and the top 20% have 20 or more sexual partners. luck of the draw, man. most men are orcs and will never be able to live the life t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:54 PM
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no no, i'm absolutely going to continue encouraging people to do that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:53 PM
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if you think doing shrooms is "getting high", I'm going to assume you've never done shrooms. they're not exactly a party drug. but, now that you mention it, yes, I do enjoy getting high on a multitude of drugs - legal and illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:52 PM
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the manosphere is probably the single most significant contributor to my own beliefs that, yes, sometimes ignorance IS indeed bliss, and is indeed healthy. men should basically have never been made aware of just how valuable women are :P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:50 PM
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wut https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/09/sperm-donor-identity-mental-health/616081/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:49 AM
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I tend to disagree with that. Life is the source of meaning. Without life, all of this is meaningless, and there is no difference between something rather than nothing having existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:06 PM
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Women have a great desire for men. no they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:12 PM
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I mean, that's a pretty tough question without knowing specifically how we're freed of the game but generally speaking, I think... consciousness is a beautiful thing that needs to be preserved in the universe, and to do that reproduction is ostensibly necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:09 PM
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right but that seems to be what OP is saying we should mitigate in men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:04 PM
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Dude If you're fucking her, you're interested. Maybe not in an LTR, but you still want that pussy and you're expressing that. OP here is arguing that men's problem is that we do too much of that, and that's... silly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:35 PM
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lol and cede the world to the men WITH sex drive lol no thanks there is one path for men, and it's IN the fight. you don't get freed from the game. women can. men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:22 PM
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do you have any evidence for any of these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:07 PM
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this is pretty spectacular shortsighted thinking - if men reduced their interest in women, they just likely wouldn't get laid, man. women aren't interested in dudes that aren't interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:51 PM
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honestly man i don't care THAT much, it's just that... yeah, it does seem like a double standard. on the plus side, there's enough of it in mass media that... i guess it's annoying enough to make me willingly limit my intake of mass media so... silver linings?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:03 PM
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good one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:02 PM
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he needs you to be a feminist villain in his simple narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:51 PM
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oh! im a particularly insecure person so thats not surprising to me me too. probably to a fault. probably more than i should be. i'd probably do better if i wasn't as insecure as i am. which i'm working on. it's more about "is he worth it", is he worth being labelled a slut, is he worth the commitment of being his gf, is he worth me falling in love, is he worth the effort and investment. most men are "no"s to those questions...like I've fallen in love once. so maybe im extremely picky, which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:43 PM
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what does this mean it means like, i get it, you're human, you have insecurities but it just surprises me you know, just like men are limited by quantity, we're limited by quality. quality is rare and quality enough to commit to is rarer, so i myself find it hard to replace someone i loved but that's just my sensitive self. most ppl think other ppl are interchangeable anyway so we have to live with this. hard for me to empathize with you here - like, the idea that some arbitrary percentage of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:22 PM
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you probably are. i'd also say though that... shiiiiit dude, makeup fucking works and it might make you look so good that dudes are like "nah way she outta my league". I think a lot of dudes honestly self-select out of the running.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:22 PM
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a little bit this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:22 PM
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For most of us, the dream scenario is to LTR a woman best friend. We find it hard to understand the way in which women separate friendship and dating potential. lol facts i love the "the friendzone isn't real" bullshit in modern social circles. it's totally real.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 06:21 PM
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and the opposite fear women have is they'll never be enough. bc men dont want to replace women, they want to collect women. and we all know on some kind of level, that if we want a man, other women will want him too. the flip side of being left for a taller dude, is being cheated on for another woman...simply bc she's different. not bc she's hotter, younger, simply bc she's not you. that just sends the message "you'll never be enough". honest to God this makes sense but also blows my mind y'all …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:42 PM
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My "like what" is asking for examples of men being critcized. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/woman-hates-men-much-wrote-bestseller/ (this one's rich - "this white supremacist hates black people so much, she wrote a bestseller about it") or, here, let's just give you the Google News search results for literally just the word "men": https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:33 PM
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Many. I value and respect the women I choose to keep in my life - even if I don't accept the contemporary social justice/feminist narrative about men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:19 PM
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Ok, so music is often negative about women, not dropping truths/fair critcisms. Some probably does. There's a lot of music out there, but that's the thing: Try being negative about women - honestly or otherwise - in any other medium. You can't. And it's not as if the artists who are, in music, don't still get shit for it. Oh? Like what? Television, newspapers/magazines, movies, books, etc. Like, honestly, "like what" is such a ridiculous statement I have to question if you're engaging in good fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:16 PM
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i don't believe men are heartless emotionless creatures, i just think sex comes first and foremost for them and that they're intrinsically commitment phobic. yes, we ideally want sex without strings. maybe shitty, but on the same token, i don't think a woman is owed commitment just because she flashed some pussy - it is just pussy, y'all also need to bring something to the table to get unwavering loyalty for the rest of my life from me. what gets them to commit isn't some general kind hearted ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:10 PM
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I don't have examples offhand, no, I'm just saying that music is pretty much the only mass media medium in which one is allowed to say negative things about women. Any form of media, on the other hand, can and is used to drop broad and negative generalizations about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:50 PM
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yet men want to be lovers, bfs and husbands. male lust and love is inherently damaging to a woman's value. we cant change the inner disgust of men and the possessivity of male love, nor can we change their sex drive so this is a fact. Do you think most women feel this way? Resentful that men can sleep around without losing value but they can't? This is an interesting point and, based on at least what women have told me, seems to fit - I've just never heard it articulated in this way before and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:03 AM
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lol ok "everyone who disagrees with me is virtue-signaling" that's some pussy shit dude, it's 2020, be your own man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:23 AM
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you're capable of thinking for yourself you just don't 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:22 AM
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Is it real criticism? Or is it talking about fucking and/or murdering as many women as possible? I mean, I'm not going to condone music about murdering anyone... but let's not pretend fucking as many _____ as possible isn't a theme that's played out across the board. Interesting that your outrage is only aimed in one direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:11 AM
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find my purpose in life by understanding my place in space and time work in aerospace, fight the good fight against the inevitable horde of entropy by preserving the light of consciousness for as long as is possible advance the cause of socialism and human liberty through the promotion and improvement of open-source software share in the experiences of life with another human being who reciprocates my appreciation and loyalty for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:37 AM
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I hope it improves though don't worry, it won't, the overlords have given us the option of contenting ourselves with fucking other dudes' buttholes or chopping our dicks off very very reasonable terms
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:34 AM
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The only difference is the majority of women here (and in real life) act blue pill because it paints them in a better light. this is fuckin' true performative blue pill over actual red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:33 AM
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the 90's accepted some semblance of male nature, it wasn't until basically the post-2010s that the dipshit gold star participation trophy generation took the reigns of the narrative and forbade those kinds of portrayals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:31 AM
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that's not as mainstream as ya'll like to believe... that's why they need marches and rallies, because they're trying to change shit, which means it isn't the way it is currently. bullshit dude, feminist narrative is anymore the cultural narrative - that they go on marches and shit is basically just a holdover of the struggle. women are still women, they still have in-group preference, and actual marches for actual rights instead of "gimme gimme free shit because personal responsibility sucks" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:30 AM
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Looks like I struck a nerve. no dude, your bullshit is just cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:23 AM
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exhibit A as to why i hate cringe-ass conservatives and manospherians anymore don't get me wrong, i still think team blue is willfully manipulative, duplicitous and wrong - but I can respect the intellect behind it rather than this Wayne LaPierre cartoon villain interpretation of the world where everyone is out to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:22 AM
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lol no it doesn't, this is pure revenge fantasy nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:21 AM
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What I think is that in the final analysis the Manosphere is bad for men too and The Red Pill’s existence harms more than it helps you know I honestly find it hard to disagree, but mainly because... ...I don't see much optimism for men along any path going forward into the future, tbh. I think men are pretty much screwed no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:20 AM
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right right we get it America is a dystopian hellscape
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:11 PM
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if RISUG/Vasalgel was a thing that worked as it has been advertised, this wouldn't even be an argument. as it stands, one has to fly to fucking India to get it done, because fuck our medical system EDIT: lol wow, men, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:51 PM
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that would almost certainly happen, yeah. also i kind of think... yeah, it takes two to tango, we don't want a shitload of wards of the state, and to the extent that a certain man's dick and evening got it good and he fully consented being an adult who knows the consequences of sex... yeah, I don't exactly think he should get off scot-free and leave this woman to care for the kid alone while the kid is raised without a good father figure. we need less of that, not more - the overwhelming body of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:46 PM
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even the male virgin gains value when he loses it while the female virgin significantly decreases in value when she does. i mean, again, this sort of seems like it's on women in the same way that it's on men that sluts "lose" their value despite all of us wanting NSA sex with them. this is female preselection at work - the dude who gets it keeps getting it, the dude who doesn't may be perfectly nice and communicative in bed but the mere fact that he doesn't get it is a conscious or subsconscious…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:39 PM
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wellp, that's consistent, but would result in a spate of single moms, skyrocketing taxes, probably step on the gas pedal vis-a-vis male sexlessness, and a further relegation of men to irrelevance as to their role in society - none of which are good things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:33 PM
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on the other hand. every time i get close to a man, my value decreases. every time i have sex with a new man, my value decreases. every time i fall in love and follow my heart, my value decreases. men's dont I mean I guess, but the player guy who fucks around only gains value because women sleep with him. It's like the reverse of sluts, who men want to fuck but not LTR... and then, I'd argue that reasonable people aren't really going to look past N-count and past behavior of anyone. A woman expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:42 PM
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i'd be all in favor of it, if logistics weren't against women and, by extension, men. by and large i'm on team "let's all get along" rather than "fuck women", but if it comes down to pure gender adversarialism, then... basically the only solution i can think of is subsidizing male abortions particularly for men who are likely to not be particularly physically attractive. shitty, yeah, but so's bringing a boy into this world who has a three-in-five chance of finding love and human intimacy, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:36 PM
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it's not even looks, man - there are TONS of women that meet or exceed my pretty broad looks minimum. the challenge is finding one that isn't a total entitled princess like this bitch and who I'd find spending the next 50+ years of my life with fulfilling and satisfactory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:31 PM
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Unless he’s exceptionally wealthy, good looking or loving and respectful....there’s literally no point in settling for 70% of men. Unless he’s exceptionally wealthy, good looking or loving and respectful....there’s literally no point in settling for 70% of blacks. like, wow. wowza wowza wowza. i would say it honestly must be great to be able to just be like, "yeah 35% of the world's population are below me and most women". totally valid and accepted, hell, encouraged viewpoint. this is team #equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:27 PM
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or wants something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:23 PM
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i would love it, but it's so rare that i honestly view it with suspicion lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:23 PM
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I don't know what LPS is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:20 PM
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i'm not going to call you a whore but: tinder, and dating it seems, is a quantity over quality thing for men but it's a quality over quantity for me, and quality is rare. like, this is fair? but to the average dude who has to do the monkey dance and jump through this hoop and that one this reads like "peel me a grape". that you can basically Amazon Prime human intimacy and then can be like, "mmm, nah, don't like that one" is basically unimaginable to every living male on Earth. If that's the big…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:13 PM
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right, i'm asking how a.) ordering a fresh chad from tinder is not possible, and b.) given the truthfulness of a.), what are the negatives of the female side of dating? like i just haven't really heard any that I can really empathize with. honestly seems like an area where yeah, the grass is pretty legit greener over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:05 PM
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i mean like men are by far the victims of men pretty much across the board, my life still goes on
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:03 PM
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I don't go to a gay bar and bitch when I get hit on and the tenth guy in a row tries to buy me a drink annoys me. It's just the facts of life. au contraire free drinks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:01 PM
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i can also talk about the female side of dating but they would dismiss it bc i can order fresh chad from tinder how is this not accurate though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:58 PM
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pot, kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:58 PM
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yeah, biology is straight cold dude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:57 PM
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closer to 1/5th, but... still, nothing to sneeze at - that is safely a statistically significant result
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:55 PM
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tbh I think it's less "based on nothing but vagina" and more "based on in-group preferences" - there are a number of studies that confirm the sex of a teacher does impact grading biases. majority of teachers are female, and aren't as gender egalitarian as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:54 PM
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Not everyone makes the kind of money where they can get by with one person income. The world is way more expensive and a lot of people think because things are more equal in the world that both should step up financially which is fine. If one person makes more (man or woman) and the agreement is as such then great. right, but men are held to higher standards on that i.e. it's more okay for a woman than a man to make less than her spouse. Where did I say women have it worse? I didn’t. k but you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:50 PM
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this is a more difficult issue than I'm interested in getting into right now so suffice it to say, I agree with you... but I also disagree with you, and I think men are an easy, go-to scapegoat. Plenty of men are absolutely hopelessly beyond redemption pieces of shit, but I think fewer are than society thinks, and I think that to the extent that we consider an individual's environment in their present behaviors... we are less willing to consider that for men than for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:48 PM
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it is increasingly popular - downside, future generations are only going to be comprised of people who want to have kids :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:43 PM
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That's fair, but I'm of the position that kids add some purpose that some may prioritize as more important - if less enjoyable - than hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:39 PM
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And if you live somewhere were you can't afford or access an abortion, and especially when they are illegal, no sex for fun. this is the argument deployed against guys who complain that a woman can unilaterally yokel them into 18+ years of child support, so uhhh... yeah, fair's fair then sorry sex has consequences and other people aren't obligated to be on the hook for your decisions this really isn't a radical position, it's an adult one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:27 PM
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no, but I bet those people got satisfaction from trying and from striving and tasting the sweet nectar of success - rather than knowing they were just not trying and everything would be gone the moment they disappeared. I'm not doing it for the people who might remember me 100 years from now, I'm doing it for my ego that exists in reality right now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:25 PM
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a balance is what's necessary. i fully agree with the idea that one can (and I have) dive way too deep into the ragey political outragesphere. that shit is mega, mega unhealthy - everything in moderation. i am trying to be a reasonable person and see things from the points of view of others. i sometimes fail at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:57 PM
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Is having your bloodline carry on worth sacrificing 20 years of your life to raise someone? ...yeah, absolutely. that's purpose, fam. what else are those 20 years of my life going to go to? hedonism is great, but purpose is forever. I would rather just live my life to the fullest not having to take care of kids, I don't really care what happens when I die. You realize once your dead nothing matters right? mmm Einstein matters. He dead. Neil Armstrong's boot print on the moon will last long into …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:56 PM
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lol I know, magical progressive perfect Europe somewhere I would guess? That's your response to a genuine statement that abortion is not magically legal all over the world? Weird. it throws a wrench into the lefty progressive narrative about America vs Europe, in which many countries have recently legalized abortion and have stricter limits on it than American red states Oh, you are one of those sex-on-for-procreation types. I wish I had know that before I responded. What's it also like to live …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:52 PM
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I'm honestly not super young, but I'm old enough to understand that. At the same time, you ignore the media at your peril... anymore, "news" doesn't exist, there are just a bunch of little Pravdas around, each fighting on its front to wrest control of political power into their court. As the old saying goes, "you can ignore politics, but politics may not ignore you". If my life wasn't up for debate by demagogues a million miles away from me, I would delight in ignoring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:49 PM
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Hell, where I'm from it was only made legal a couple of years ago. lol I know, magical progressive perfect Europe somewhere I would guess? There is access issues, wait times, being forced to do shit like listen to a heartbeat, the cost...so no, they don't always have complete agency. okay okay okay but, full fucking stop here, you guys preach about this shit like it's a woman's issue and only a woman's issue and that men don't get any say on when human rights are bestowed upon a physical human o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:45 PM
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alright i'll eat that one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:34 PM
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dude I wholeheartedly agree but you're not going to find... almost any article blaming "women" for jack shit nowadays. you can find one blaming "men" like, every other fuckin' day. and, like, whatever, okay, freedom of speech and all that shit that writer can say what they want, but it seems pretty clear we're in a cultural zeitgeist now where men are... uh, the bad guys. and there basically isn't shit we can do about that and honestly it kind of seems like... for a movement that not-infrequentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:26 PM
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never implied one did
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:15 PM
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How are women responsible for the fact that women have children and not men? they aren't, nature is Contrary to your misguided thinking, men often ARE responsible for women having children because mostly male politicians enact laws that don’t allow women reproductive rights. this is nonsense, women have immense reproductive rights in the developed world especially the United States - to the extent that a woman's reproductive rights override a man's right to self-determination. It’s men foisting …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:13 PM
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You said men can’t get free contraception ~ that’s a lie. Nope, I said "free contraceptive mandate from the ACA etc." The mandate is because men already get male contraceptives for free but women hadn’t This is false. By and large, 82% of healthcare plans provided free contraception for women. By comparison, about 12% of healthcare plans provided Viagra, which is not a contraceptive, but was a stupid talking point among left-wing moralizing dipshits during the whole contraceptives debate that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:12 PM
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well, you can probably set up shop in someone else's life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:08 PM
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If you don't want to take responsibility for a child and you do want to have sex, you can have a vascetomy. It's that easy. this goes both ways. i am not advocating that men who aid in the creation of a child be eligible to escape scot-free - but i am pointing out, y'all a.) make the choice to fuck him, b.) make the choice to use (or not use) birth control, c.) make the choice to carry the baby to term, and d.) make the choice to keep the baby. women are not without agency in this process, contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:00 PM
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Men can absolutely get WIC no, they absolutely cannot: https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/wic-eligibility-requirements free condoms are available everywhere... which wasn't the claim Minority owned business loans were necessary because MEN were denying these resources to women and PoC. this is absolute bullshit, but entirely expected from one of our resident, reasonable "everything bad is men's fault" users Your red herrings are goldfish 👀 you're a bad faith discussion participant and an unreasonable …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:58 PM
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Im thirty five years old, father left me and my sublings when we were four. that's super shitty He never paid a cent in child support and never saw a "cage" as you say or went to jail a single day. times have changed - i don't support men who bring children into this world abandoning them without consequences. personal responsibility and all that. Also, why are you so angry? i resent being lumped in with shitheads just because i share the same reproductive organs as them, amazingly. most men ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:55 PM
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i don't think dudes get pissed at the "my wife should have reasonable access and rights in society" stage i think they get pissed at the "why the fuck are you blaming me for everything bad that's happening i literally go to work and come home and that's it oh my god fuck you people" stage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:49 PM
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Sure, among right-wing circles, but those aren't the Malthusians nor are they almost ever proponents of any kind of population reduction/control measures. The Malthusians are overwhelmingly left-leaning control freaks in favor of a terrifyingly authoritarian central government with statutory control of your reproductive agency (ironic), but "racist" is just a ridiculous, hysterical label assignment - not an accurate description of what anybody proposing population control actually believes. Pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:43 PM
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...dude men are not responsible for the fact that women and not men have children. if we are, wow, why did we make that choice that was stupid, giving one sex that kind of power when did we choose to make women that way again?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:40 PM
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WIC, SBA "woman-owned business" loans, free contraceptive mandate from the ACA etc. don't benefit men, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:39 PM
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It seems like the only valid "responsibility" men have that women don't is being drafted, but what are the chances of that happening anymore? pretty damn good, i'd say - the naive position is the one that says a massive geopolitical war won't ever happen again which would be great, but also unlikely. when that happens, we'll need cannon fodder, and we know who that job consistently goes to. I don't get why men continuously make out that women don't have responsibility. because the idea generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:38 PM
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define "responsibility" then? because i guess, in a sense, i'd argue men don't have much responsibility and that's a.) sort of the entire problem and b.) wasn't exactly their fault - we are living in a furious rejection against male responsibility. you used to be celebrated if you worked your way up to the C-suite, now you're an evil cancer to society - but with a fat bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:22 PM
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kudos to an interesting philosophically consistent position, even if I'm completely disagree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:21 PM
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omg it isn't a racist argument at all, jfc, you just literally invented that whole cloth the Malthusians are concerned about resource limitations - sort of important considering we live on a finite sphere of resources surrounded by otherwise literally empty space
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:19 PM
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It's about purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:18 PM
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Basically this, except the trouble with your articles and your books is that they don't really have a chance of going on. I mean, you might write the next Principia Mathematica, but it's pretty unlikely - whereas your kid might fuck a shitload of bitches and some piece of your lay in 2020 might still be around on Earth 20 million years from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:18 PM
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then men are valued for being dutiful little productive cogs in the system - but basically anyone can be that, whereas only women can have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:15 PM
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It would be irresponsible to accept or promote it ...this society is moving close to promoting it, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:09 PM
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It's funny how you put the blame on men not being worthy enough and blissfully ignore women's role in this. there's a rule you should become ruefully aware of: women are never, ever, ever, ever, ever at fault and never do anything wrong. that's it, that's the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:08 PM
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Reddit standards, really. It'll be a cold day in hell when personal responsibility is ever acknowledged on this website.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:06 PM
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Because they weren't making shit before that. lol preach I was making actually pretty good income among my social group before that and that $600 stipend gave me more than I was earning before. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:05 PM
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Despite the low birthrates, we also have high divorce rates seriously? Women are the primary breadwinners in nearly 50% of families today because they have no other choice. that's a funny way of saying men are the primary breadwinners in... over 50% of families. and uh, women wanted that, they got it and lol what? i ain't subsidizing your family, i'm going to go see Petra in Jordan and the Forbidden City in China, have fun feeding your kids I specifically didn't make choices that would be a burd…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:04 PM
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And it was perceived to be huge problem, so much so that we had presidential candidates going around loudly making promises to bring back the jobs in coal and steel! Never heard a peep about executive secretaries, however ... hmm, funny, that. women are not required to have a job to survive men are the expectations are not the same and, like, whatever dude - women's employment has been a major topic of policy for literally decades, if not a century or more at this point. i'm not saying it's bad,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:48 PM
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Dunno where I claimed they didn't, I just said that the statement "women are valued for being women" is not "bullshit" but is, in fact, true. As to how feminists decide to accord that with their warped view of what "equality" means, that's really up to them to decide. Probably more government programs to benefit women, if their past solutions are any indicator of what their future ones will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:45 PM
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The majority of men don't pay child support when they're supposed to. Seems like "complete freedom" to me. Child support does not take into account a man's financial situation and is a court-ordered payment - the government can (and does) put you into a cage for not paying it or underpaying it. In fact, women literally have the final say on all of that Really? Yes, really Abortion is either illegal or severely restricted in the majority of states, and especially where lower SES women can't get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:44 PM
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Total BS, dude, unless you think being chained to child support is "complete freedom" - most dudes I know who pay child support ostensibly pay more for that than they do for rent or anything of their own, the state doesn't consider 50/50 by default and women usually fight against it even if dads try to fight for it, and when dad gets a new, better paying job, mom can go to daddy state and request her slice of his income be increased. Bullshit it's freedom - and what the fuck ever, yo, women can …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:19 PM
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So you happened to White Knight a homeless woman. So anecdotally it worked out for one woman. lol like a friend of mine did this exact thing, she used the shit out of him and he lost his job over the whole thing. I mean, granted, he was an idiot, but, he wasn't the first man and I guarantee you will not be the last. I don't know a single woman that has done the reverse. Cue "but but iT's DaNgErOuS" aka therefore okay to dehumanize the opposite sex - because again, that's totally tolerated in con…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:15 PM
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Because women are valued for being women. Bullshit. Nah, sorry dude, you're totally wrong here. You're probably right that most women face familial, community, and social pressures to get jobs and generally be productive members of society, but they get a.) way wider latitude on that pressure and b.) generally still are regarded as "the prize". All else held equal, between a man and a woman, the woman is more valuable. She is a more important human. Pretty much all of society agrees on this, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:13 PM
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...when was the last time Presidential candidates called out single-fathers? I can't think of a less appreciated cohort. They have some employment benefits that could credibly be called sexist, but otherwise are basically not acknowledged to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:10 PM
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according to the current social consensus in pop culture and media, uh, everything bad, apparently. If anything, it seems like the average woman has more responsibility than the average man. Women kept the responsibilities they always had (childbirth, childcare, and household duties) what world are you living in, the birthrate is the lowest it has ever been and it's all "yo GO girl" if you want an abortion or contraceptives or to fuck 600 dudes and added the responsibilities men had on top (educ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:06 PM
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However, happy husband happy life is also true for a woman. And one of these is a little social saying, and the other isn't. Weird. I wonder why. Modern feminism didn’t free women from gender roles, just made it so women had to work while also taking care of the house / kids. and my argument is that, yes, it largely did. as a woman, you get a choice. as a dude, you don't. you can be a lesbian dyke or a transgender FtM to a regular ol' valley girl that loves dick. If you're a dude though? You pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:59 PM
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I mean, yeah, necessarily. Let me put it another way: I have only ever seen articles bemoaning unemployment effects or condemning society's valuation of occupations as sexist when it affects women's jobs. The reverse never happens, because, again - one sex is less important than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:55 PM
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Not unique to men. It now takes a two person income to survive. no it doesn't So while women now are expected to also be providers alongside their men, they’re also still expected to take care of the kids and the husband and the house work bc “that’s a woman’s job.” it never ceases to amaze me how quickly literally any argument can be dismissed out of hand, and then converted to "actually women have it worse and it's all the men's fault". Women are at a disadvantage when it comes to marriage. St…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:54 PM
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man, I sure fuckin' wish it was dying as much as my feminist SJW counterparts insist it is, because it sure doesn't fucking look like it's dying. It sure does look like "happy wife, happy life" and men get to keep their gender roles while women are liberated from theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:33 PM
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I didn't say most don't, I just said that plenty do. They don't want to be dragged down by a dead weight, no, but they don't mind being a provider if they can do so while also indulging in some of their own hobbies. For fuck's sake, the house is basically hers/the family's, he only gets "the man cave".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:06 PM
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Right - I'm saying that if it had been women that had experienced that, we'd be getting no end of how it's because society is endemically sexist, and because women's work "isn't valued", blah blah fucking blah. But it was the expendable sex, so no one gave a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:05 PM
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I didn't say it's the norm, i just said "tons". You will find more men who would marry a server or a bartender than the opposite: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:15 AM
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mere proxy it was the explosion of social media/internet, not the 2008 crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:08 AM
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everyone in this conversation is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:07 AM
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That being said, the "provider" role now falls on both parents. It's not unique to men. lol bulllllllshiiiiiiit dude it's totally unique to men the "whole point" was naked unadulterated hypocrisy, freeing women from their gender role while keeping men trapped in theirs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:06 AM
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Because pussy is valuable, and dick isn't #equality, fam, get used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:04 AM
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why aren’t they marrying poor women instead of women similar to themselves? dude tons of them do. tons of men who are working professionals meet a waitress or a bartender or a secretary and are just fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:03 AM
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Men lost their jobs at a 2-to-1 ratio in the 2008 financial crisis. As is typical with gender inequalities that primarily benefit women, this one was ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:02 AM
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Wow honestly if you needy this there is no hope Economics has a little to do with it, but the primary driver is the demand for women which is magnified through the generally gynocentric tool known as social media/the internet. Whatever you were worth before, as a male, you're worth less now. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:58 AM
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The average is pretty much seven, and something like 40% of men have only one or two sexual partners in a lifetime - the top 20% have something like 20 or more, driving that average to seven. There may be easy women, but I'm picky too. Most average dudes aren't getting tons of pussy, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:57 PM
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You don't even have get all sperg statistical about it, man. Are you number eight? Okay, well, that's higher than average, but... you know, eight partners by late-20's early-30's for a woman who can get it whenever? Eh, seems like she probably takes it seriously but also knows what she wants. Plenty of dudes out there that can hella drop the ball, too - dudes know this. Hell, we've probably been that dude. 20 though? Like, yikes, I'm not saying she's a bad person but I've been broken up with, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:21 PM
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Can you not read the implications of what you're typing? Like I have no agency or choice in the matter specifically because I'm a dude? Thanks, real equality movement y'all got there. And I'm the one who talks "gross" about the other sex? FFS
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:12 PM
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Never said it was, but the way you talk about women is gross. the way you expect men to kneel before the almighty sex that a Woman might bequeath to he is, too, so I guess we're two peas in a pod. You did. That's what I was responding to. You said I was entitled just bc I have a pussy. Uh, no fam, that was alllll you: "But girls can get sex on a dime. And one is choosing to be with you and eschew that. That seems pretty valuable?" As if to say, I should look past any red flags and leap at the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:08 PM
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and evaluating someone's candidacy as a stable partner based on their own sexual past is misogynist... how, exactly? you already admitted that women would absolutely do this of men, too - so enlighten me, how is it that it is "misogynist" to evaluate a woman with a high N-count as "misogynist", but somehow not misandrist for women to do the same? It's your choices, fam, but I don't want to be the next dude left heartbroken and depressed in a long series of dudes because you found a hotter and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:51 PM
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I think this is why you can't get sex on a dime. It's not, I can't get sex on a dime because I'm a dude I wouldn't trust or date a manwhore 100% but this attitude is also such a giant red flag (def worse than manwhore). you seem triggered that i'm not willing to throw my life at some woman because she flashed me some snatch, sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:42 PM
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usually whores are pretty attractive, actually I mean, certainly not LTRable, but definitely ONSable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:17 PM
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Hah really? I guess maybe to the thirsty dipshits out there but I'm a thirsty-but-intelligent dude, I'm not gonna look past a woman's red flags just because she has pussy only to pay for it later by being the next dude she nexts on a flippant whim, leaving him in a state of emotional pain. At the end of the day, it's just pussy. I'll maybe fuck for the time being, but I know my worth. It's a taller climb for a N=20 to gain my trust than an N=7 - and that isn't unreasonable. I'm told that all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:15 PM
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Woman preference good, man preference bad this is the social sentiment OP is generally responding to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 06:46 PM
1

pot, meet kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 06:45 PM
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I'm not really one to put my age out there on the internet, but male, 30s. I can't get sex on a dime, so, yeah. I think I'm pretty normal as far as "not Chad" men go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 06:31 PM
9

Nope. Obsession isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:48 PM
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Honestly don't know - but... you'd know when you know. If a girl told me "seven", I'd think "well that's higher than me but not by much and is at least upfront indicative that she takes relationships with some degree of seriousness". If she told me "twenty" I would not think she took relationships that seriously, and I would take the relationship accordingly seriously - knowing that I will probably be jettisoned at some point for the next model and to enjoy the company and the pussy for as long …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:35 PM
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See everyone thinks like that “I can’t make a difference it’s just me” so things stay the same. 1.) This is accurate 2.) The same is also the most effective strategy for reproduction, so But yes I will have my pick of the lot & my cake because your behavior allows me to ;) Biology and human nature allows you to, you didn't do anything but get born the sex that doesn't actually have to do anything - this is how we know there's no God
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:03 PM
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However, I’ve gotta admit that I am pretty afraid when I walk down the street at night, or am at a party, and I’m usually watching out for strange men who might be creepy. I'm a man and I do this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 01:28 AM
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One person isn't responsible for the collective And one person isn't responsible for the incentives placed upon us by nature. Nor is the collective, for that matter. Have your cake and eat it too, you were born the gender that gets to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:19 PM
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Women crave kind of superficial emotional support. When it comes down to it, she kinda just needs you to be there, but otherwise has her way of handling the real big emotions. On the flip, a woman is pretty central to a man's sense of identity and self-worth in a way that women... Are obviously completely oblivious to, and the emotions tied to those subconscious concerns run deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:13 AM
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lol but you'll still get bitched at as if you were Jeff Bezos or one of the majority male Congress, you evil $50,000/year tradesman with a sort of okay healthcare plan
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:10 AM
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You don't even know if he is and, for what it's worth? The guy who "stops doing it" out of some worthless fucking "ally" motive had accomplished precisely one thing: Selecting himself out of the list of suitors. You ain't gonna fuck the guy who's staying out of your DMs. He 100% has a higher chance by being there. You COULD give those guys a chance, but shit, why would you? Plenty of obviously interested guys right there - so no, don't give us that bullshit advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:07 AM
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if you value your self-worth as a human being, though, don't do this. trust the internet on this one. the trust is better than the knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:04 AM
1

Plenty of bodybuilders are not "Adonis", they take to a whole 'nother level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:28 PM
1

Women, Chad. I'd agree it's a net good given women's humanity, but it sure is a raw deal for the average Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:00 AM
7

I'm sorry, but immaterial outrage about a song doesn't invalidate science. Plenty of scientists - women among them - have concluded that on average, the male libido is stronger and lasts for a longer duration of a man's life. Those same scientists conclude that is probably not far apart, and given the nature of averages and bell curves, as with anything else between the sexes, there are probably some women who are hornier than men, and some men less horny than women. But in the whole, studies...…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:58 AM
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no i'm not going to have sex with all of the women on Earth, literally impossible might as well make friends with some of them, if only to a.) understand women better and b.) gain a perspective of the human experience which is altogether different from my own I love my brohams but I've got some female friends whom I also adore. The ever-present elephant in the room is "would I fuck them" and, like, yeah no doi if they're hot but it's not like this big deal that's hovering over me. Some of them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:26 PM
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kinda joking is facts right there you basically do have to be some ridiculous caricature to be visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:50 PM
1

this is a good way of putting it though for real, if you can be described as an "Adonis" no woman on Earth will see you as an orc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:49 PM
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No, men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:42 PM
2

It's basically the only country I can realistically try in, my dude. Props to you I'd you live in a not-fucked country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:31 PM
1

that's my secret cap
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:03 PM
1

Me neither, but my parents took me to work with them a few times and there simply were more women in those positions than there are now. For sure, same. And studies also back that - women were pretty big into computers and tech before men were, and honestly STEM is kind of stupid obnoxious anymore. I actually fully support reasonable diversity initiatives, getting more PoC and women into tech but... then pick good candidates, encourage them, and then let's get down to business. We've got to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 09:04 PM
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Now I'm not saying all the "good old boys' clubs" are completely gone. same I see few women wanting to be in... basically any dangerous, or just non-socially-glamorous (even if there is no physical danger) job. Even fewer than 20 years ago surprisingly. I wasn't in the job market 20 years ago, but the studies seem to show it - few women seem to want to put off that family experience. Some do - and they should be treated accordingly, equal shots etc, but a lot - once they've locked down a man sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:47 PM
2

Decency selects for indecency, then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:19 PM
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If AA has been so bad for men, why are men still running everything? they aren't, plenty of women in power positions men in the majority likely because women value family time over those positions, and you have to make a choice if you want that level of power - you lose some time in the home for it. Men are more willing to do that than women. You may now proceed to confirm your pre-existing biases about how horrible men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:17 PM
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It's not like women are unable to access these higher status positions. But that's hard work. more to the point it's compromise you think dudes who are Fortune 500 C-suiters are seeing their families much? No, but men are inherently a little more willing to work than women, who I think are inherently a little more wanting to be with the family. And, anymore? That's likely the reason you don't see as many female c-suite executives - shareholders want a man in a woman's body, someone who's willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:15 PM
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The biggest problem you have is a typical manosphere one. lol his username is /u/HighTMale12, are you serious? Where you are so deep into the manosphere that all women appear to be a homogeneous block. this is the image that feminists project if they didn't, they'd make room for pro-choice women, women who are conservative, etc. They don't. Believing that there is some sort of global "blue pilled feminist" cabal of witches controlling a government of cucks is a crazed conspiracy theory spread by…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:01 PM
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I guess I didn't think it was obscure, and it's probably my U.S.-centric-ness coming out. That said... isn't it somewhat rare among people who would call it... y'know, "soccer"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:41 PM
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Fair. Could they not gush about other dudes while they're at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:20 AM
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Soccer is oddly specific But also that's okay, I think it's kind of expected, if politically incorrect, to say men and women are into different things. I'll make an effort to be engaged, even if at the end of the day I'm not going to be super into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 11:02 PM
1

variety is the spice of life but for real men, be fucking careful about that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:54 PM
1

I have plenty of interests, but I find that very rarely are my real passions terribly interesting to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:51 PM
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More men than women went into monasteries. More men than women lived in isolated environments, went to sea, colonized innawoods with no expectation of female companionship. That doesn't mean they weren't sating their sexual desires, fam. They definitely were, with each other or merely alone. The world is covered in a layer of crusty sperm from the previous generations of men beating it. Men who were interested in women used to be 'a catch'. Now they're a bother. Largely because of feminism and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:37 PM
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right, because it's evident and supported by science is what makes it very likely to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:33 PM
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chromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:33 PM
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Probably, to some degree, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:32 PM
2

The only way out of this loser mentality is listening. no it isn't, that's just the bitchy team blue loser mentality offering. "be a sycophant to women" isn't a solution. the way out is moderation. listen to what they say, but also watch what they do, and use your fucking head.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:32 PM
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There were several occasions when girls lamented their singleness and said "there are no guys around" while right in front of me, knowing I was single and looking. hahahahahah they all do this at some point man. any ol' dude has had this experience. trouble is, they ain't lookin' for "any ol' dude". monkey, dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:30 PM
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We have the exact opposite problem women have lmao It's so true man. Good luck on dentistry and thank you for doing that!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:15 PM
1

No, I do not believe women are inherently worth more than men. i will never understand people who think this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:05 PM
1

Dating isn't a game. It comes with real-life consequences. high stakes games are the best ones, friend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:04 PM
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It would make society better overall if men required women to show more value beyond t and a. they have no leverage with which to enforce this demand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:01 PM
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Lol that's the truth lol I get compliments on what I've done nonstop, how "smart" I am etc. And then I've heard my female friends talk about how hot some other dude is. Just once, it'd be nice to hear that I'm cute or hot or whatever. It has happened, but shit it's fucking rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:58 PM
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it's ridiculous revenge fantasy bullshit lol some of the people here dude, their lack of perspective and self-awareness is a delightful treat keeps me coming back every day
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 01:43 AM
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Look, if she’s going to be passive-aggressive like that on a date he dodged a bullet. ^ this, completely if she's gonna legit tests like that, least of all on the first date, holy hell dude, your boy had a favor done
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 01:41 AM
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They absolutely do if looks are required to get in the door, fam Not saying y'all are wrong for it, but let's be real here: everyone does that, and it doesn't make them shallow, and that extends to men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 08:05 PM
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you didn't have to have sex with her and yes, the female invests overwhelmingly more resources in the task of reproduction than the man and is, ultimately, the host that brings life to the new human in the final step of it so... ...yeah, that's how that works. sorry fam. don't be a dumbass, wrap that shit up, and donate to the Parsemus Foundation if you actually give a shit about male reproductive rights. that's our best hope of equalizing shit and not getting kid trapped for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:50 PM
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What do you guys think? that equality in gender relations, not unlike equality in economic relations, is not a straight line from what you are allowed to do vs what they are allowed to do. men are policed more harshly for their use of violence against women, because our violence can almost always be significantly more destructive. women generally are not policed more harshly for their use of sexual power over men, because we're in a period of hard "women are wonderful and men suck" in society, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:23 PM
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it could happen to anyone. ... in a society with abundant, basically free contraceptives for both genders and where abortion is an option? yeah, sure, it COULD happen to anyone who lets it fuckin' happen man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:13 PM
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every time a guy here cites that OKC data he conveniently overlooks the second part, which showed that women were still messaging these "below average" guys and women who cite that part ignore that men were still doing the overwhelming majority of the messaging - you don't get to point at the ~10% of women who bothered to send a message in the fucking first place, and ignore the ~90% who didn't, and then claim women are these magnanimous egalitarians in dating they aren't, and that's the realiza…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:50 PM
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Women, as a gender, engage in just world bullshit to an unbelievable level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:48 PM
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Nailed it. Let's not pretend that for the longest time, it was women blowing smoke up guys' ass about how "looks don't matter" and how it was "shallow" for guys to want hot girls, only to find that girls were actually JUST as fucking interested in their partner's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:47 PM
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You might believe your own lies lol dude it amazes me that you think she's lying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:43 PM
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right so you can be a gigantic asshole, as long as you are strong and fun and likeable. point to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:42 PM
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Men who look absolutely awful will always struggle to get sex no matter how much of a heart of gold they have. Dude, men who look sort of okay or average will always struggle to get sex, regardless of the "heart of gold" they have. Men who look absolutely awful like, shit, I feel legit bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:41 PM
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Personality does matter more than looks, but looks are important to get our attention and to be able to have sex with someone. "Personality does matter more than looks! Except for, you know, being someone capable of attracting a woman, and having sex with her." How did you actually type that and not question the incongruity of the beginning of the sentence with the end of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:40 PM
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though that is the reasonable ones; i know plenty of people of both genders who think they are entitled to the other person and think they can do whatever they want. the last year and, hell, the last three months, has made it occur to me that reasonable people are considerably rarer in the world than I once thought. this also has not been helpful for my dating outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:48 PM
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I would tend to agree. It's not unreasonable or bad to break up with someone who has gotten physically unattractive or become an asshole. It does kind of seem like it's more socially acceptable when it's one gender doing it over the other, though. I don't see guys putting that shit on blast on social media, for example, or when they do they will get lit the fuck up over it. If a woman does, though, it's fine. She won't get lit up over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:43 PM
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My original response to that specific argument was that even if men did need sex that much, there’s no reason somebody should suffer through an entire relationship just for some sex, because it would be much easier/less time consuming to just hook up with girls. I never compared gendered experiences in dating in the first place. Right but I did, that was my point, the "get a one-night stand" option isn't really an option. Now, I'd argue that OP is maybe being a little dramatic, but even then - I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:41 PM
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But have some human decency and look after yourself. That isn't "unreasonable" but men who have decency and have looked after themselves get broken up with How many men bitch and moan when their gf puts on weight or isn't too horny anymore ? I mean, "have some human decency and look after yourself"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:30 PM
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Sorry you have to put...effort? Into getting laid? You don't need to apologize to me, just don't imply that "just treat us like humans" is all it takes, or that getting an LTR or a one-night stand is as easy as going up to a fucking vending machine. It ain't. Have you not seen how women dress up to go to bars? I would say 60% of that is just because we enjoy looking nice, but 40% is to attract other men and women. I mean, you can have that one - I see a bunch of righteously indignant Facebook po…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:17 PM
0

How is it easier to be in an unfulfilling long-term relationship than it is to find a one-night stand? how long have you been at this forum? "One night stands" are things women can get at the drop of a hat, not men. For a man, it's either an opportunity that by pure chance falls in your lap, or you're a fucking Chad for whom the ladies will drop their panties significantly easier than they will for the overwhelming majority (80-90%) of most men. And both of these things have a pretty high bar fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:32 PM
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There's probably a lot, tbh, but that's because there's a lot of spectacularly shitty males out there, and they have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:08 PM
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he's right tho that men "get hella comfortable in relationships" is bemoaned as a male flaw on this subreddit and by women generally, it's not something they celebrate, they actually fucking hate that which lends credence to the idea that you are to perform at all times basically until you're 60 at which point you finally get to relax
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:06 PM
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Do women not need sex? Oh gosh, have I not needed sex this whole time? you have it on tap, whether or not you need it as much as men is immaterial, you're the one who gets to give it away ergo you can get it basically whenever you want Men, on the other hand, cannot, and have to make compromises to get it, and if one of those compromises means "being somewhat guarded of his internal emotional state so as to not kill his partner's attraction to him," he will do that, because exactly zero of us kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:04 PM
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I'm legitimately floored at how few guys have put this together or reasoned through it but then It occurs to me that guys who think through this and reason through it are almost certainly less likely to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:32 PM
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this is like the fucking law, dude. if you're not player material, get the fuck off online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:03 AM
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I don't think it's JUST looks, but looks are a huge single component of it. I tend to agree with the black pill case that probably between 60-80% of men are wholly invisible to women - I think at absolute MOST some ~20% of women are invisible to men and I strongly doubt it's higher than 10%, even the fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:16 AM
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These "deeply embedded imperatives" you speak of aren't even present in literal apes Yes they fucking are dude, gorillas mate guard AND there are like simp gorillas who try to fuck the alphas bitches behind his back and shit. We also know that huge percentages of men throughout history did not reproduce. This isn't ahistorical nonsense, it's pretty well documented. If you're a woman, you're a person. If you're a man, you're a player in a game to further your genetic lineage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:10 AM
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lol it's like shitty TRP apologia for being a terrible person, but for women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:07 AM
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No they aren't. They're "pushed hard" because the struggle was something of a formative part of women's upbringing in the 20th century, and contemporary women, having missed out on the just fights feel like they're missing out and contemporary millennials writing for VICE and the NYT pump that shit front and center because they were born in an era and nation of historically unprecedented plenty and basically have no purpose in their lives. Black Americans and Indigenous Peoples excluded, but oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:05 AM
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Women compete against other women for men, too. I mean, other top tier men in terms of physical attractiveness, not "other men" generally
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:56 AM
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lol Tl, dr it's the men's fault, poor poor wahmen are oppressed :( Saved you time, you're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:53 AM
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so is having emotional reactions to the way you're treated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:14 PM
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Because he's assuming that's the reason, instead of the more obvious reason that people get less impulsive as they get older and as they are removed from high peer-pressure situations such as college. Yeah I'm still hard pressed to fault him on that, the "I'm not as impulsive" seems like post-hoc equivocation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:43 PM
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Uh yeah they definitely have better hair genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:42 PM
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Why is James wrong to think you're more attracted to chat than you are to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:19 AM
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It's like two out of three men by age 35...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:18 AM
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Nothing We are somewhat beholden to our biology, despite a certain political ideology insisting that it doesn't matter at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:04 PM
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The people with access to the things that enable them to date their biological impulses are the people least subservient to their biological impulses? This makes perfect sense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:03 PM
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that only works if both sides can reasonably expect the other to act on good faith fact is, women's lot has improved dramatically yet guys who ostensibly had the least (read: nothing) to do with historical oppression of women are the ones getting the most shit over it. yeah we should arrive to do better but y'all ain't, y'all talk about "men" and then have the gall to ask "why do you feel personally attacked when i go on about how evil and shitty a group which you are inherently a member of is" …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:02 PM
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As a man, you have to cross boundaries to get a woman. We can't just sit around and wait for a cute woman to add herself to our lives - that's not how it works. We are required to be a little predatory, to interrupt your life with our desire for you, etc. Like there's no way around that! Well, other than women asking men but a.) be careful what you wish for, men and b.) that'll happen after the heat death of the universe so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:57 PM
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this is precisely the trajectory that society is currently on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:53 PM
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I guess men make thots too then. Lol yeah, probably. Little surprising to see you use that kind of hate language tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:52 PM
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I mean Is he wrong? If you get wild and fuck a dude on night one but a few years down the road make James wait for it... it kind of seems like you're probably not as viscerally attracted to James as you were to the guy who made you rip your clothes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:50 PM
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Cool. I'll remember this comment the next time a major national media outlet feels the need to lament reason # 6,437,912 as to why my gender sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:45 PM
1

I like how 4-10 have great hairlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:12 PM
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They don't have a stake in society anymore. We've full on moved to the point where, socially, the idea that "women are better than men" had largely been fully embraced and if you disagree you're a horrible misogynist. Team blue actively thinks men are the problem and their men are somehow trained to be okay with this, and that's where society is going. Men don't have a stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:35 PM
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This isn't necessarily the negative point you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:32 PM
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Someone in my family has a twin boy and girl. I feel so, so sorry for the boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:30 PM
1

We could of course price water accordingly, which would fix the problem but lol dumbasses will never do that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:28 PM
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(they're the same thing) women have big strength/dick envy - probably not unlike how men have big pussy envy. They hate that we are as free as we are, and as strong as we are when their biology is something of a ball and chain to that little baby oven in their tummy. ...so modern feminism is mostly about taking men down, because that's the only way they know to build women up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:28 PM
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You’ll be happy to know that no matter how much it seems otherwise, women have convinced themselves that they need men what fucking world do you live in, dude? cuz from where I'm standing, I see a bunch of women who mostly bemoan the fact that men exist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:24 PM
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It is far more likely that i will get laid than decide how a country's electrical power will be transmitted - and i resent the notion that getting pussy is anywhere near that momentous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:22 PM
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lol yes because you implied that most women would make for "an idiot wife" and aren't "real women" which, mind you, 99% of women say the exact same shit about men on the fucking daily, but will never, ever be called on it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:18 PM
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No, it's just perpetrated in part by the gender that will never, ever get shit for it in the contemporary media. We'll get a dozen Vice articles about how men are the evil drivers of capitalism, seeking high paying, high status jobs and nary a peep about the women in their lives selecting for that, wanting big houses and designer handbags etc (lol usually we get the "capitalism FORCES women to make those choices :(" agency-removing horseshit instead).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:16 PM
1

Does "resentful" have to imply hatred? I resent my friend for being better looking and a little more hot tempered and as such better with women than I am, but... I don't hate him. He's my friend! I would just like for nature to have given ME looks and a little more of a cocksure attitude but as it stands I'm pretty average and overthink the shit out of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:02 AM
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I certainly don't agree with that. But I won't dispute your charges of resentment, or that women fundamentally have the power. Or, at least, a power that they are much more socially free to use than men can use theirs. I can't beat the shit out of you without getting assault charges and a whole host of consequences thrown at me but you? You can engage in emotional manipulation all the lifelong day and society will at most admonish you for doing that. I thought "Star Trek" was a pretty good visio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:01 AM
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I wonder when or whether we even will have a strong men's rights movement at some point. the cynic in me sees the current state of gender relations and concludes that, no, we likely won't, as a matter of the gender role men occupy. it is not the sympathetic role. I wouldn't support annulment of child support though, but I would support the changes for including shared custody in the list of options. I think 50-50 custody should be the default presumption of courts, and it should be incumbent on …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:52 PM
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So men have to live in dread but women shouldn't. Gotcha. if you haven't figured it out yet, this is basically their answer for everything where the woman has the upper hand. equality and liberation from gender roles is for women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:59 PM
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mmm men have pretty recently been voting against their interests on behalf of women, actually. women made a convincing argument. wonder if they'll have the same eiphany.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 05:31 AM
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Sounds like the guy doesn’t have a backbone and the woman is a hysterical child who can’t take no? yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:59 AM
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"indicators of interest"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:57 PM
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It's similar to that office meme where the stud comes up and says "Good morning Karen" and she's all flirty, then the tech beard shows up saying "Good morning Karen" and she's already on the phone with HR about it. it is exactly this - but it's on men to navigate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:47 PM
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Honestly, that she'd drop them. I didn't much care that she used two towels, but fucking hang them up to dry so that you can use them a couple times before we have to wash them because we literally do not have this many towels and I'm sick of doing laundry I say "it didn't break us up" but, actually, I guess I started feeling like I was putting way more effort into the relationship than she was, became a little red pilled, which helped, became a little bit more red pilled, which broke us up, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:00 PM
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Who do you think makes up 40+ year married couples? people born early enough to have dodged the moronic bullshit that social media resulted in bless them, the last generation to know love
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:57 PM
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...that's just you restating "lol they're pathetic men" with more sciencey-sounding words.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:56 PM
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do you ioi guys you're attracted to or even seemingly conventionally attractive guys that aren't fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:55 PM
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But the real answer is: generous people who live happily ever after don't normally visit complaint-happy subreddits like PPD. It wasn't always this bad smh i mean this is pretty new still, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:53 PM
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but at least it’s always been in the first few weeks of seeing a guy. i mean i guess that's worth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:43 PM
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jfc no wonder people are insecure af these days, we actually ARE just a massively shitty, shallow generation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:42 PM
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it didn't break us up, but my ex would use two towels every shower, and then just drop them on the floor it was infuriating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:40 PM
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I mean... ...you're literally reading this from a media publication called "Vice". Be shocked that "small matters" to them might wildly differ from the acceptable norms as defined by the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:39 PM
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...Vice is red-pilled? lol now I've heard everything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:37 PM
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AWALT as the "women can never be decent people ever this is an ironclad rule like general relativity!" is clear bullshit. ...but AWALT as in planning for your enemy's capabilities vs. their stated intentions is right on the money. Trust is earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:36 PM
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I once dumped a guy for sweating through his shirt on a 100+ degree day ...jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:33 PM
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she doesn't do the "imma virtue signal" thing which is abrasive and, admittedly, hard to hear as a dude, but shit if isn't a better thing for your rational mind to work off of when evaluating and planning your strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:33 PM
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And the entire thread of replies revolves around that life experience, including your original reply to me My comment is definitely commenting on military men vs rando simping civilians generally - at no point do I allude to the experience differences of being civvy one's whole life versus doing the military schtick. This is wrong because the word “simping” has negative connotations. There is nothing negative about a masculine man being protective and chivalrous. It’s wildly attractive to women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:28 PM
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“Pussy whipped” like as if having a pussy (vagina) is a diabolical thing? It is, or at least, certainly can be... ...but that's not what the term "pussy whipped" is. You having a vagina doesn't make your SO "pussy whipped", otherwise every heterosexual relationship would involve the man being "pussy whipped". No, him basically being unable to tell you "no" on anything for fear of losing access to your warm hole makes him "pussy whipped", and it is not a stretch to suggest that... plenty of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:08 PM
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If it was general, you went through pains to make it personalized to me how! your experience being raised on military bases was never mentioned and isn't actually all THAT unique (c'mon, there's bases in every state), and "women love a man in uniform" isn't exactly an uncommon social aphorism. This is fun, I love when TRPers can’t lie well I'm not a TRPer you should pay attention to how women respond to emotional tampons vs. masculine men who act protective and chivalrous ... You mean like, "If …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:07 PM
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in the worst way, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:26 PM
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Because if the thirties are considered "mature" then that's ridiculous. as a thirties male, I agree I am a child that does drugs, not a "mature" man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:25 PM
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What narcissism? the assumption that my post is aimed at you specifically You’re the one who popped off about me preferring the chivalry of men in uniform vs civilian men. no, i'm the one who argued that /u/DangZagnut had a point. Simping is simping - but one sort is attractive, the other isn't. I'm not even criticizing it, that's just how women are, and men ought to take notes and adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:23 PM
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With bad boy the logic is simple "I'm shitty and so is he, we deserve each other". This insecurity makes us push away good opportunities in front of us, until the opportunity slips away, completing the aberrant cycle of self-fulfilling prophecy reasoning "see? told ya i don't deserve this!". as a guy, i can actually sort of empathize with this in my own life, even if I have no fucking idea how y'alls fucking attraction works. This isn't as clear cut, because a lot of incel types are pretty deep …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:36 PM
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thanks, gonna trust the science tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:34 PM
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not hamstering cool narcissism tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:34 PM
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men don't bear half - they bear the overwhelming majority
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:33 PM
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...a good portion of dudes find girls boring. I don't find girls boring, I find them insufferable and largely unwilling to have a conversation. It's their way or the highway anymore, but we're honestly supposed to believe they're the poor, oppressed class? I don't think men are oppressed, TRP is over the top misogynist and MRAs are trying to play the feminist victimhood game while being decidedly not attractive, seemingly more innocent women... ...but I also damn sure don't think women are oppre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:30 PM
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no, it's really not, there's some consistency in what both women and men find attractive. this has been studied, and i know y'all think you're a special snowflake and god's gift to humankind, but really, sharp jawlines, musculature, income, deep voice, big dicks, height, etc. are all pretty universally selected for by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:21 PM
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20% of the men are having 80% of the casual sex, not the defeatist lookism version that... is not evidence supporting a defeatist lookist perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:19 PM
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combined with the more permissive attitude towards men cheating lol oh my god, it's somehow still the men's fault, amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:12 PM
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yeah almost certainly true, because most men are simps and for every clean cut, flat topped, jingoistic jarhead you meet out there you'll meet five slightly overweight desk jockeys who joined for the college benefits and have trouble passing their PT tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:12 PM
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That’s not simp-like, that’s masculine, protective, and frankly attractive on a primal level I mean, I actually think /u/DangZagnut has a point - it just seems like you have a preference for how service from men is rendered to you. If it's delivered in a crisp, pressed, camouflage uniform that carries with it the implicit meaning that its clean-shaven, buzz-cut wearer needs the uniform's stealth appearance to potentially kill an enemy, on go the tingles and moistness down under. But if it's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:09 PM
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Anyway, the question of sexuality isn't closed and we still don't have 100% profs that it's biological or cultural. Actually, we have pretty fucking strong evidence that it's both - but I expect the hysterical nurturists to acknowledge that our inherent biology has a non-zero role to play sometime after the heat death of the universe. I guess it stays so as we can't do experiments on people. you don't need to do experiments on people, you can just track them - do monozygotic and dizygotic twin s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:28 PM
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no, i'm saying that non-moderation of it dulls the sexual imagination, which is an important ingredient to cultivating good sexual experiences with women who, lets face it, are expecting you to put in a great deal of the work. they don't have to put on much of an act to please the dude, the dude has to put on more of one to see to it that she's pleased. to that extent, porn can be an inspiration to a point, but it presumes a great deal of "maleness" to female sexuality when real world female sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:09 AM
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dude I'm sympathetic to a lot of leftist beliefs, this shit just drives me nuts. there's not enough calling out your own team in this world. when people are being unreasonable, call them on it. in this case, i'm mad at the lefties. most of my bitching at conservies is on Facebook. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:05 AM
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it's pretty much that, here, too, but... plenty of libertarians who like drugs. i mean, really, they have pretty similar sentiments to the leftists, the drugs just don't convince them that governments will become efficient and not-corrupt or that markets aren't awesomely efficient, distributed ways of allocating resources or that underpriced commodities won't be overconsumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:04 AM
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Some of these are good points, but some of these aren't and read like a laundry list of MRA/TRP "but but me too!" arguments concocted basically to be a mirror of feminist/social justice "but but me too!" victimhood points. -Boys are graded unfairly compared to girls Valid, but this is more of a function of the sex of teachers than some kind of deliberate effort to punish boys. Female teachers penalize male students more harshly, and we know that same-sex and to an extent even same-race teachers …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:55 AM
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I was claiming that some of us online amateurs (me included, but I try to be self-aware of that) simplify and adjust scientific theories and concepts in order to fit our, in comparison, rather little and fringe-populated pills. Okay, fair, but I'd say there's some pretty unambiguous instances of studies out there pretty well saying what they're meaning. Biology as an determinant =/= biological determinism. The first one is a given, the second one is an fallacious stance that can be used to cherr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:50 AM
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Look, you can't scream "nature" when we, as a society, have laws to circumvent nature. We have decided that it's okay to admit nature fucked up and that we need to fix it. I'll give you an example, yes, men's sex drives result in men desiring sex more often than women, yes, our sexual nature means that women don't want to persue, but nature gave men a way of fulfilling their natural desires even in situations where they fail at the chase: rape. Is it wrong? of course. but nature doesn't care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:32 AM
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Women fight female gender roles, men don't do the same with male roles. BS, dude, if men do, women - supposedly the noble and virtuous sex that "just wants equality" push back. Equality for me, but not for thee. Y'all want all the benefits, none of the responsibility, and if we start to complain about the box we're caged in, y'all bitch. Literally had commenters here dog on how it's "kinda bitchy" for men to do that. Well, fine, but that's hypocritical as fuck and undermines the entire moral fib…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:25 AM
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it's a catch-all if she doesn't think so, then props to get for being honest and consistent. For the record, I'm in that camp. Men should show their emotions as men deem it appropriate to do so, because expression of emotionalism is judged by society. But we can't really pretend that a.) "mEn ShOuLd ShOw ThEiR fEElInGs" isn't an in vogue social justice cause du jour, nor b.) that it isn't one, specific political camp uttering it. All it proves is... no, men are quite right to be guarded of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:21 PM
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The joke is that in the contemporary social narrative, anything less than rabid social justice leftism is bigotry and oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:17 PM
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He was a carpenter, that's some brutal math
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:38 PM
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most of the women replying here are absolutely confirming that male emotional expression 1.) matters and 2.) affects their attraction to that male. zero comments have thus far said "hey, express those emotions, I don't care" cuz they fucking do, OBVIOUSLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:34 PM
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It is somewhat frustrating, sure. You know, really, the frustrating part isn't that they silently judge men on their emotions and are more attracted to the angry and stoic men - it's that they collectively blow smoke up society's ass admit how good and virtuous and not guilty of that they are while they do it that's frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:32 PM
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Some are offering circumstances where it's okay, rules, etc. Yeah lol like, that's the fucking rub - all these sanctimonious fuckwads just fucking say "men should express their feelings" and then come right out and offer this laundry list of rules and regulations as to when it is or isn't acceptable for men to cry and of course when they say "emotions" they mean sadness - men expressing anger is, of course, "bad" (never mind the fact that it's a massive turn on for women especially when men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:30 PM
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lol "men should show their emotions!" "...but I'm going to unilaterally deem their display of emotions as manipulative or legitimate based on my own arbitrary desires and judge them accordingly why aren't men comfortable showing their emotions?! toxic masculinity probably" like, good job team blue, you guys are fucking great at confirming the charges of hypocrisy that are leveled at y'all. good to know dudes should ignore all that virtue signaling "men should show their emotions" bullshit and ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:20 PM
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I mean, an average of 2.2 years - considering that that factors in women who date younger as well as who date older - completely confirms my point. But okay, go ahead and take that victory lap, I guess? ._.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:52 PM
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k https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2015-55834-001 https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/03/globally-women-are-younger-than-their-male-partners-more-likely-to-age-alone/ https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/03c3/a50e79a1f26823c0ade4b027819faa636bba.pdf evidence is pretty overwhelming, we could go on and on but
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:05 AM
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Biological determinism is a question of if, because that line of thought easily brings us to fallacious claims. no, biological determinism is a question of "if" and "to what degree" because we live in a world in which biology exists that people may utilize it to fallacious ends does not have any bearing on whether or not it is descriptive of reality or not - it's still worth exploring and understanding, and the science so far does, in fact, indicate that biological determinism is a pretty big in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:59 AM
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women have been wallowing for like, decades. some of it was pretty fucking justified - but the shit they're bitching about today is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:40 AM
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You can take that argument up with those who make it and not strawman me. we ARE human, and ARE capable of great things, but nonetheless are also second class citizens in the Brave New World. Male biological privilege is policed but society. Female biological privilege isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:32 AM
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It is perfectly within men’s control to not place sex as the preeminent concern in their lives. Debatable!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:20 AM
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If younger women preferred older men they’d all be dating them but they do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:50 PM
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Apart from defaulting to 50-50 custody arrangements at the beginning of custody proceedings and fixing criminal sentencing disparities, I don't really see how men are institution disadvantaged compared to women. If anything, men probably have a slight upper hand institutionally thanks to legacy sexism still having a foothold, but women's social power is overwhelmingly in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:46 PM
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not all lefties are soyboy little bitches tho Uncle Joe Stalin was a looker, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:27 AM
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Honestly the most tolerable and fun sort of religious person, tbh, but it's mainly leftists who have drawn that stereotype... so take it up with them. I have some right wing views, so I'm a horrible bigotry apologist that hates women. You get used to it from people willing to condemn you to the third circle of secular hell before even giving you a chance to get to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:24 AM
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I mean, sorta. Dudes aren't getting the wool pulled over their eyes, they know what women are about and plenty of them like guns. They just also don't like cops... for obvious reasons. Let me do my drugs in peace, piggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:22 AM
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I think you mean Nazis
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:21 AM
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Lefty men might actually get some sneaky "male feminist" sex too. I think this is a strategy. I do not think it is an effective one. The male feminist trying to curry favor work the women via his egalitarian personality is woefully unattractive. Women were never attracted to his towering virtue, and on top of it he probably hates traditionally masculine culture signaling which hetero women actually are attracted to. I'm saying some men use this strategy. I'm also saying it would actually surpris…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:19 AM
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^ this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:15 AM
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nature is for sure not on my side it gave me the ability to be aware of my circumstances and feel tremendous emotions over it, and then placed me the in same circumstances every other male animal on Earth is in - a brutal, perpetual competition against the others of my kind to demonstrate my worthiness to exist and project a small piece of my essence into the future. Nature is on women's side, it ain't on men's side. For the first time in a long time there are 101 males in the world for every 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:13 AM
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Your implication is that because some porn acts are acts you don't like at no point have i made a value judgement on any sex act, only on the relative merits of watching porn vs using your own imagination you think all porn is to the "male fantasy" and it "warps men's minds" about what sex is like. the kinds most men are watching, yes - definitely does diminish or remove entirely the agency of the woman. Truth is, there are some real kinky women out there too. i'm quite aware Might not be YOU, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:15 AM
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Yes, women certainly do fight gender role perceptions for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:14 AM
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No, there is an opinion that biological determinism has nothing to do with it - or sufficiently minimally to do with it so as to be discounted entirely, and then there is the truth: That biology has a significant non-zero impact on people's behavior and attraction. People who believe in the latter proposition are regularly panned as misogynist and sexist, because if it is true, then observed gender differences are not purely the result of an evil, sexist society (as adherents of the former propo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:11 AM
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Vanilla sex !== "Real" sex , lol this was not the implication
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:08 AM
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gender role perception changes for women, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:07 AM
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We still don't know what exactly affects people's sexuality. my bad, obviously it's income inequality or global warming or whatever the leftist cause du jour is, how could i think differently
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 04:05 AM
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Probably not. I don't think there has ever been a single documented instance where one class of people moves into the position of privilege and then turns that down. Women are the center of attention, the sex that is in demand, have a legal upper hand, overwhelmingly more political power, and are rapidly moving up on the scale of economic power across income quintiles. ...why would they feel betrayed by that? If anything, the speed at which social wind shifted materially in their favor was consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 03:41 AM
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wait where did i imply that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 03:35 AM
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how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 02:13 AM
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they are actors, performing to a male sexual fantasy - which isn't how real relationships begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 02:02 AM
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are you saying that you love yourself in this comment? because if so, rad, man. good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:41 PM
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yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:38 PM
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yeah, but those "social norms" changes are the ones that are a.) hard to do and b.) never end up working the way we think they will. Like, I don't think any change of social norms has ever consciously happened - social norms have basically only ever changed as a response to the material conditions of the world people and society find itself in. Social norms would significantly change with, for example, a nation of 30% men. I'm thinking "rad, an ocean of pussy" but there would OBVIOUSLY be conseq…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:38 PM
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fluctuate the tax credit. tbh, it probably wouldn't work - Germany tried incentivizing people to just have kids with generous tax benefits. Barely moved the needle. I don't know what the solution to mens' dilemma is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:32 PM
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i mean, yeah, i would also go with the status quo. but if i had the choice between the status quo and... a tax credit that means men would live decent lives after me... now, that, i could go for. maybe someday, when men's character isn't evaluated in sum total by how many women they can get to fuck them, we can have 50/50 populations without men killing themselves at four times the rate that women do, but. at the moment, it's a woman's world, and men are just in the way, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:27 PM
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i mean, i'd say because it psychologically warps your perspective of what a real woman is like and what sexual encounters are like, and dulls your imagination PARTICULARLY as it relates to sex which is, like, one the best places the dirty male imagination can truly fly free. masturbation is good. porn, to excess, is bad. work out that imagination. it's a muscle. you need it to be good to a woman in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:25 PM
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i mean i don't think working hard and cultivating skills in order to be successful is bad. why don't freeloaders who expect other people to do all the work ever get the shit end of the stick? like, those people exist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:23 PM
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but I don’t know anyone who feels that way about porn being the fault of men and the patriarchy. oh whatever jfc i hate it whenever leftists launch into these sanctimonious rants and then, when called on it, revert to "whaaat? no never! i've NEVER heard someone say that! not once!" like bull-fucking-shit dude you've never heard people talk about how porn abuses women, etc? because that person was low-key blaming the consumers of that porn i.e. men. either you're bullshitting us, or "reading betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:22 PM
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oh okay, yeah, we do have drugs that do that but who would volunteer to take them i mean, no one. less sexual men don't get laid, and why would women participate in a program that undermines their sexual and social power over men? lol that's never ever happened in history. it does seem like not that bad method. i do have conflicted feelings about abortion so im biased about it. rewarding abortion would really rub me in the wrong way. again, that's fair, i'm not trying to start an abortion debate…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:19 PM
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This is merely a bi product of the capitalism they love so much. They just hate that they’re being affected by it. it's not, they're idiots. while economic socialism might help, i'm still largely convinced that sexual liberation will pretty much be a regression to the norm, with 50% or more of the male population dying loveless and alone. that's sexual capitalism - and it can absolutely exist within an economically socialist country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:15 PM
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i mean...you'd be forcibly drugging half the population ...no... this would be voluntary, I'm not really interested in forcibly doing that. Which, of course, means it wouldn't work, but I was just pointing out that drugs do have an effect on human sex drive, so... you know, they're an option. and i just cant wrap my mind around selective abortion, or rewarding abortion at all fair, it doesn't really bother me done early enough. that said, it's also the only way I can think of to lower the ratio …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:13 PM
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i mean i actually don't think it's that brutal. we're not culling the male population, and the only shitty thing the males of today have to deal with is the fact that their progeny will probably be a.) living in a more peaceful society (sucks, but true) and b.) swimming in pussy. I'm not for forcibly aborting male babies, just, maybe you get a sweet tax credit if you were pregnant with a male baby and didn't have it. I know people are all super butthurt to hear that we should treat one gender di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:06 PM
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there are medications that we know of that increase or reduce libido, and i think there is probably some kind of a biological component among most women that desires men over women. between that, possible genetic engineering, and/or incentivizing male abortions to dramatically reduce the supply of men so as to increase their overall sexual market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:59 PM
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this isn't a left or right political issue it kind of is, man. i'm not saying the goal of equality isn't a noble one, i'm just saying dudes were an afterthought and sold some hard fucking snake oil on that one. can you nurture men into not pursuing women ? no can u lower and inhibit their sex drive and knock sex off their priority list and put it on women's? possibly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:56 PM
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I mean, I don't. Like, gender roles are a real thing and all but... ...men ARE interested, and it's because of biology, not gender roles. Gender roles are what keep men from going gay/trans, biology is what keeps them horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:55 PM
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this won't happen before the sun becomes a red giant and/or unless humans can upload our consciousnesses into a virtual computer pleasure world where we can all choose to be whatever the fuck we want to be as we explore space and the universe as digital consciousnesses. until then, women get the first class treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:54 PM
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Conversely, it is consistently left-wing women and staunch socialists proposing the ruthlessly individualist "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" sexual free market. ...and in the next breath, talk about how it's unfair that women's biology penalizes them in the employment market because kids! I guess it's only unfair if nature dicks over women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:53 PM
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There's a few, but not really many. Honestly, the shit hand we're dealt isn't from the state that humans built. It's from the real state: Nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:49 PM
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So, if we make the biological determinism argument, it will not happen in the foreseeable future. ...which is the truth, and the obvious outcome. It's not "if" we make that argument. That is the correct argument. That is the argument that is most reflective of reality. So what to do with the status quo? Probably what society is doing now, enjoying the ocean of men competing for your attention and either dying alone and ignoring the men offing themselves or finding some romantic success in life, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:48 PM
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I mean, that's sort of the joke of equality. It's the left that taught us that, so, good job feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:45 PM
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You can argue about how much power men have in politics all you want, but I think it's almost self evidently true that women have more power when it comes to dating and social interactions. You really couldn't. That men happen to hold political positions doesn't change the fact that women's interests are a political plank, men's interests are basically nonexistent and are fully up for grabs if it means benefiting women. Also, it's not "almost" self-evidently true. It just is true, save for a sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:45 PM
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have you ever breathed before? you were doing that to intimidate and exert power, you misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:42 PM
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wait a minute why are men who were literally babies 20-30 years after the 1960s being asked to answer for how adult males in the 1960s behaved, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:09 PM
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You know, I'm reminded of Hitler, actually. Goebbels was this nerd who finally became desirable when he acquired power in the Nazi party, and women started flocking to him and he was boning them left and right behind his wife's back. She knew. So did Hitler. And Hitler told Goebbles to cut it out, that he was being a dick to his wife. Like I gotta say, when Hitler is telling you to be a better husband... I dunno. It's just an odd historical story your story reminded me of. Either way, there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:34 PM
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Lol you watch Prenups are going to be a thing that's more common as women start earning more? It'll be okay when they ask for them, because as we all know women have no power. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:23 PM
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this... is my favorite comment. ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:20 AM
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wow
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 11:52 PM
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The slider on the zipper is the part that usually wears out. Like, when you say "slider", you mean the little car that binds the zipper teeth together in one direction and separates them when going the other? i.e. I don't need to replace the teeth?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:03 PM
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Cats are rad. I miss my cat. And as much as I enjoy being and working as a computer nerd, I do need to expand my horizons a bit. I've been thinking a bit more about carpentry and, actually, a little bit of sewing. I usually think of things as practical solutions and... well, one of my computer repair kits is falling apart at the seams (well, the zipper doesn't zip anymore and the elastic straps that held the tools in are stretched and don't hold anything anymore), so I'm thinking it'd be nice to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:24 PM
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Again thanks for helping me get past the paywall No prob. Can't say for sure how long that will last (I also made a bookmarklet that unmasks the articles for my local hometown newspaper because i am a nerd :> ), but. At least for now, that should help with WaPo articles. ...but Mr. Calibre can kindly walk the old woman, Bekiala, through an internet usage point and accept her gratitude. I do this frequently! Although, I guess, sometimes I get money for it lol. In any case, I'm happy to have helpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:16 PM
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No problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:00 PM
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if she becomes friends with him and then tries to escalate things to a romantic relationship and he's not about it and so she jets because she doesn't want to eviscerate her own emotional well-being, neither of the people there are pieces of shit for any of that. It sucks a little, but in that case still mostly for the person who got rejected unless they got to be, like, really tight friends - and even then, that's just a situation with no easy out. But it doesn't make them pieces of shit, it ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:57 PM
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For Safari, if you hold down your "Option" key while right-clicking a link, you get the option, "Open Link in New Private Window".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:56 PM
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What browser are you using?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:46 PM
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no, but we definitely walk on eggshells with what we say and what we do around women in a way we just don't have to around guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:45 PM
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Maybe men should stop simping and only being friends with women they are attracted to they should for sure stop doing these things, no question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:41 PM
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...no they're not, changing one's mind and attempting to access a romantic relationship do not make someone a piece of shit - people go from friends to fuck buddies to couples all the fucking time - and sometimes it doesn't work out, and in order to protect one's own emotional health they have to cut ties. What /u/LillthOfBabylon is trying to say here is that she feels women are entitled to friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:37 PM
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It's freely readable in a private window. It is a paper-thin paywall - though I question whether or not that should really be necessary, given the title by itself, which is apparently acceptable. We both know the reverse wouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:33 PM
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It did. It lessened it. It did not eliminate it, but the distrust is more broad and critical of our culture generally, not aimed at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:31 PM
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Strongly distrusted, that's for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:04 PM
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I haven't come across industry nor propaganda that makes me hate men. rly https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:41 PM
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Where did you get that idea from what I said? I just said that there's a towering amount of propaganda aimed at women, telling them that legitimately hating men is acceptable. Look in this thread - imagine so many people being like "I used to hate black people" but when it's men, that's somehow acceptable. You actually CAN be hated for being born in a way that you had no choice over... you just have to be born a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:29 PM
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dude, there's a fucking industry that basically goes out of its way to tell women that half of humanity is a bunch of worthless evil shitheads - and the only part of the industry going up to bat for men are cringe and/or batshit crazy conservative media outlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:12 PM
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...I'm wrong about what I want?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 03:52 AM
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wouldn't most women be single? no, but single womanhood might be trending up... which it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 03:50 AM
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it may shock you to realize that I don't want to do that to someone. Least of all someone I love! I don't just want to receive loyalty - I want to give it. If I have to do that, it isn't real. If it isn't real, I don't want it. Sex is great. Sex with the person you love is real life magic. so you know, like I said, perpetual motion machine, FTL drive, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 03:47 AM
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My male partners have other partners. They have current standing options. They stay with me because we genuinely like each other and enjoy spending time together and building worlds together. They aren't trapped. They have options. Well, for most of the world, that isn't an option. And probably isn't an option for most men, who aren't Chads. Hence the dilemma. Also the person I was asking that question of? Said the answer was because his mom was scared to death that his dad would leave her. Yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:39 AM
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for REAL, like this bitch would be cool with her dude chilling with his hot ex gimme a fuckin' break
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:49 AM
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A lifelong roughly equal relationship with my looks match, similar interests, etc. might as well ask for a perpetual motion machine or a warp drive tho
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:45 AM
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It isn't nitpicking if it was a gradual climb and of women represented a large share of the workforce beforehand. I mean, you're the one who cited economics, well, supply and demand is pretty central to that field of study and it says that an increase in supply across relatively stable demand will result in a decline in price. In the case of labor, that would mean a larger workforce receiving declining wages. It also stands to reason that we would also see increasing productivity. Which is kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:42 AM
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wait but was the workforce doubled in the '70's? or was there a gentle upward creep in labor force participation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:20 AM
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Whether to base your own happiness on approval of others and success is the eternal question: Losers are social pariahs. ...so in closing, it kind of does actually seem like your happiness is at least somewhat predicated upon the approval of others, given humankinds' social nature...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:19 AM
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I don't think I ever really hated women, but I went a little deeper into TRP than I'm proud to admit. There is a lot of misogyny there, and I'm not about that. I don't want to hate other human beings. I didn't want that to be a part of my character, I don't think it's honorable and it certainly doesn't comport with my more libertarian strong beliefs in "personal accountability" - which loosely stated means you get to own your fuckups, but you get to own your successes too. I don't need to be a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:05 AM
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Dread? Really. I can't even picture what a relationship based on dread would look and function like. you're a woman you are literally walking, talking, dread game. no one wants your fucking SO, they all want you, he's having to prove himself every day to you so that you'll stick around. go on, give me the usual "I would NEVER!" tripe about how you're "not like that" or whatever, but your love is conditional and his love is replaceable. From his perspective, is love is less conditional and you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:34 PM
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Unambiguously. Women are cats, men are dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:26 PM
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Ok, that rant was cool and all, but you just saying “they’re probably blue so it’s fake” to one of the most respected and accurate measures of comparative quality of life for women is just saying the evidence is bad bc you don’t like it. You can feel how you like, but don’t dismiss it entirely. this isn't incompatible with what I said - I bet it fucking rocks for women, no question. It's probably great that paternity tests are basically illegal there. They hold the most power in media, have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:57 PM
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I believe French men are masculine, but they embrace femininity... No they don't. They've got a different brand of masculinity which is somewhat different from the American brand (which is itself not the strawman caricature that you've built up in your mind), but they aren't "embracing their femininity" any more than they aren't "raging macho" like we terrible forsaken Americans apparently, simplistically are. Their GII is one of the lowest in the world, meaning that women are relatively very cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 09:49 PM
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Go to college, but if it isn't for you by the end of high school, it isn't for you - you'll figure out your path and I'll be here to support you Be careful doing drugs, they're fun and a great time but don't be dumb - plenty of people in that community are wonderful but some are skeeeeetch as fuck Don't get pregnant early on - likely no one is ever truly ready for a kid when they have one, but a kid can fuck a career if you have one in high school, before graduation/career development etc. Learn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:29 PM
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If we're going to look at which gender is whining more about dating on PPD it's 100% men. What do women have to complain about? I mean, other than apparently the quality of human beings being presented to them by the universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:06 PM
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I mean, I guess I appreciate the honesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:05 PM
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I disagree with the blame shifting and victim Olympics that goes on with RPers. What about with feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:37 PM
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Did... you read my post? I realize that according to Team Blue, anything conventionally masculine is evil, bad, and most certainly not masculine and the only hysterical left-wing talking points are considered such but... I wasn't dogging on France or Frenchmen. I certainly don't think they're egalitarian, they're like just below Sweden in terms of gynocentrism, but that doesn't mean French men can't be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:31 PM
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Yeah I don't know where France got this reputation of being sissies - they've got one of the largest militaries in Europe (if not THE largest, for historical reasons), and they've fought bravely in many wars. French men honestly have the best of both worlds - the sexiest of the romance languages and a birthright of tremendous culture, while still being able to credibly claim some conventional masculinity. Vive la France!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:11 AM
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i've decided kayleigh mcenany is hotter. still stupid, but hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:58 AM
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behold the sex positivity/totes no double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:43 PM
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this is actually solid evidence of that, omfg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:39 PM
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No, no, Tomi fits the bill. Kayleigh McEnany was pretty much in the same boat, she landed her 6' right-wing Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:38 PM
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As a conservative, I think she's stupid. As a man, I think she's stupid and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:37 PM
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the only time team blue will fawn over anything Tomi Lahren has done
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:36 PM
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I mean... I feel like there's probably something between 0% and 99.9999%....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:26 PM
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Men’s attraction towards women is 99.99999% physical. lol have you met literally any man? imagine saying this shit about half the population, it's amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:26 PM
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holy fucking shit a reasonable person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:35 PM
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If a woman says leave her alone she is not interested, she definitely not interested. No amount of pushing will make it change. You are confusing being bold and assertive with being dumb. No no no, obviously that's the case. But you have plenty of angry screeds on the internet screaming about how never to approach a woman, and if dudes listened to every one of those? The human race would be extinct. The nice guys listen to those. Men don't. And, importantly, shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 06:02 PM
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Because when nice guys describe an asshole they usually end up describing a person with a backbone... I'm amused that you're the one who gets to decide, unilaterally, what is "a backbone" vs what might be an unnecessarily confrontational personality. All I know is that between a guy with a non-confrontational personality vs a guy with a confrontational personality, the latter is more likely to get that pussy, not the docile, socially unruffling former guy. Shit, y'all as much as admit you like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:16 PM
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Some TRP guys have pretty solid science. Some TRP guys have fucking cringe science.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:02 PM
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Self proclaimed nice guys are usually too shy, passive and lack the confidence to approach their crush and flirt. Does being bold, assertive and confidently flirting with girls automatically make you an asshole/mean. No it doesn't you can be a nice person and do those things. I mean, yeah, if you listen to what feminists say, it is. "Just leave me alone I'm not interested" well than it's not nice to approach you, is it? But the asshole doesn't care. He'll do it anyways. And he'll get rewarded fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:03 PM
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we'll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:28 AM
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physical domination is the hottest and most efficient way for a man to look alpha. But that doesn’t mean women are evil for what turns us on No more than men are, but so long as we get the "men are evil for liking hot thin girls", I'm content to stick the label "women are evil for judging men on their performance in combat against one another". And, for the record, further fucking clear-cut evidence that escaping gender roles is for women, not men, just sayin'. or that we don’t appreciate kindne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:06 AM
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No, it wouldn't quench the sex drive - but your reproductive fortunes would not be based upon the whims of whether or not women particularly want you. The market has already solved egg availability, so all you'd need is an egg, your own sperm, and the artificial womb and you've fulfilled your genetic imperative - albeit in a decidedly lame way, you nonetheless accomplished it. And, really, sex is nice, but there's a reason that women have the higher value that they do - part of it is sex, but pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:06 PM
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No, that's the problem: A movement requires unified participation among it's members - in this case, men. Men in this movement would effectively be vilified by women and very likely other men, and men in the movement would for the most part be strongly incentivized by pussy to temper their support for the movement (this literally happens now - Red Pillers aren't out there proclaiming their Red Pilldom and laying pipe to their swooning harem, I fucking guarantee it) thereby rendering it relativel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:57 PM
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Kinda, yeah. People pleasers are less likely to start confrontations when confrontations are sometimes necessary, or even when they're not - but women fucking get wet seeing men flare up, display their force projection, etc. You need some aggression in there. You don't have to be some roid-rage ridiculous asshole about it, but you do need to be ready and willing to start a confrontation when either a.) you are confronted, or b.) someone does something to someone else that calls for someone to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:53 PM
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men can't do the same - the dynamics are different. see /u/Chaddamhusein - the nature of intrasex competition among men changes the dynamic to one which rewards turncoat actors. Not the case with women, since they are sought after and generally aren't as intrasexually competitive but much more cooperative with strong in-group preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:50 PM
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Question: do you know a lot of guys who try, even a little, to pursue women of greater financial means than themselves? actually no, because "do they earn money" is generally not as high on a guy's wishlist in a partner. Because there's still a societal expectation that men pursue, and frankly, I'm just not seeing all these men who are even willing to entertain the idea of being financially subordinate to their wives. Fair point, I'm damn sure not, but that's just because I've dated a woman who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:46 PM
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If a person can accomplish more than that over their lifetime, they're a net benefit for the climate. That's a big if, and at the end of the day, I don't care how good you are at reducing the average person's resource footprint, they will need some non-zero amount of resources to be kept alive. Thus, the more persons there are, the more resources in absolute terms will be required to support them. In developed countries where we actually have the tools to start solving these problems, we need mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:00 PM
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Women are people People should be free so no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 04:51 PM
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I mean like I also would like someone to subsidize my life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:53 AM
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Yeah if you ain't top 20, and realistically even top 10... shit dude. You gotta fucking wooooooooork for it. If you're in the top ten tho, women'll throw themselves at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:21 PM
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We are not going to collapse as a society because of declining population. We most certainly will collapse as a society when we overconsume non-replenishable resources on Earth to feed more mouths while not transitioning to a sustainable, renewable material paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:16 PM
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I kind of agree. Every guy nowadays knows about the tall rule. We just figure a girl who's tall isn't worth our time - she's not gonna be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:52 PM
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Oh, yeah. What goes on in gilded state palace rooms stays in gilded state palace rooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:40 PM
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I dated one girl way back in the day who was rational as shit. And now I'm like "fuck, I am never going to find one like her again" they're all either astrology nuts, off the fucking charts social justice warriors, thots, not cute, or lesbians. Oh well. Cats and arduinos don't sound like the worst way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:42 PM
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Hahaha there's this hot girl I've been hanging with lately and she's like that. She's basically a fucking walking, talking red flag, it's amazing. Definitely not relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:39 PM
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^ but this someone cheats on me I'm not being nice, I'm going to do everything in my power to make their life as miserable as they made me feel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:37 PM
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Some people actually are expertly immature tho
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:35 PM
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Icing on the cake when her sister in law called me up one day saying how sorry she was for believing half the nonsense out of my ex’s mouth. that is like licking the icing off of the whole damn cake lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:33 PM
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^ this I'm on pretty good terms with all my exes. It's my own mind that doesn't stop making me feel like shit about my past relationships. People who have these stories about their exes are mostly crazy people. Probably fun tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:32 PM
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And here we go...lol are men responsible for anything? ...Consistently, yeah. I would tend to make the argument that men are the ones held accountable far, far more consistently than women are. That's sort of the rub with this whole "equality" thing - y'all got jobs and property and the right to vote, but by and large are still given lighter sentences for the same crime, have faced lower job losses due to automation, have dedicated social programs, face a lot likelihood of homelessness, and yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 01:44 PM
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Well why is it that women initiate 70% of divorces? If I've been down this road before (and I have, on multiple matters) I'm going to go with... Alex, who are The Men? Maybe because men are more like to stay in an unhappy marriage. Men will seriously cheat on their wives, beg for forgiveness and then do it again and STILL not file for a divorce... Bingbingbingbingbing Oh wow a society that tells women that they can do and be whatever they want? While in the same breath telling men that they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:07 AM
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I don't imagine there is, honestly. With wealth, life becomes an end unto itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:58 AM
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Nah. They've mostly run their power out, and are recognized by no world governments - even the psycho theocrats in the Middle East.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:30 PM
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I am generally not supportive of this, either, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:30 PM
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Because it is about personal responsibility. The joke is that Reddit is all about personal responsibility when it comes to being fat - but not when it comes to having your finances in order, paying your bills on time, getting a job, etc. Then that's society that's wronging you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:29 PM
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Absolutely The idea that it doesn't is some incel mythology. They're not wrong about looks, but so as to discount personality entirely? Preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:28 PM
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https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate I mean, generally, our birth rates are falling. The exception is Africa, and if they continue developing... they'll probably fall subject to the fertility-income paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:28 PM
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God bless We need a declining birthrate if this species is to endure long-term
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:25 PM
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So the mom shouldn't stick around either ? I mean, I'm actually impressed at how deliberately thick you're being - honestly didn't expect that angle. Instead of mom picking up trying or at least attempting to be both roles... I'm not opposed to the state hunting down dudes who owe child support and skipped out on their responsibility, but 50-50 custody should pretty much be the default - and You don't get to say "he skipped out on me" when women initiate 70% of fucking divorces. ... then being m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 09:13 AM
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You think society owes the individual man something for sticking around to raise his offspring ? ...well, yeah, given that it apparently owes the individual woman something for sticking around to raise her offspring. Equality, right? Single moms get shoutouts from presidential fucking candidates, while in the next breath they talk about "deadbeat dads" that they in large part incentivized, and ignoring the fact that fully 70% of family separations are initiated by women. But actually no - I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:59 AM
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I'm not going to exonerate the douchebags that jet out on their responsibilities as fathers, but... ...it's not exactly like society is even all that appreciative or encouraging of dudes who do stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:30 AM
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oh, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:53 AM
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Enjoy your 20's, but be sure to cultivate a profession Be cool, get into a little trouble a. Don't drink and drive, that shit can ruin your life b. Be smart about drug use, don't just drop whatever the fuck into your nostrils and don't leave that shit lying around in your car Don't marry the first person who showed you their pussy - it's just pussy For God's sake don't get a woman pregnant until you're married and reasonably certain that she's the one "lift, bru" ~ /u/Pastelitomaracucho Jesus fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:35 AM
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This is all rather tangential to the point at hand It was a supporting argument, which I maintain is more or less semantically analogous. Women are essentially the UMC-to-1% of sexual market value. Very few men break into that elite and the average woman is probably worth twice to three times what a man is in that context. I'm just arguing - my analogy works. Public opinion is a pendulum... While yes, that remains to be seen with this. Women enjoy a nice special place in our socio-biological psy…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:32 AM
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Uh, I dunno, I actually think the purples are reasonably well-adjusted. The worst takes from them is going slightly too far red or blue, either veering too far into "WOMEN ARE BARELY HUMAN GREED AUTOMATONS" vs "did you hear Frank criticized. A. WOMAN. the other day?!? we should try to get him fired". I think there's some truths in both sides but, as with everything, in moderation. It's up to us to figure out where that moderation lands and as always, we will fuck it up. Then there's the "FUCK MO…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:26 AM
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The feted author was Salman Rushdie — a Booker-Prize-winning literary giant, not to mention a glamorous global fugitive and champion of free expression as he stood up to a fatwa from the hardline Iranian government. it's cool guys just get entire governments to issue calls for your death
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:59 AM
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If you're uninterested in spending more time with that person, then the attraction isn't happening
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:42 AM
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Fat people: The only time Reddit gives a shit about personal accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:38 AM
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It actually isn't. It's just expensive as shit, and likely comes with lifelong debilitating effects on your athleticism, bone health, and other conditions and men still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:37 AM
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lol they're happy to shift it to the taxpayer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:30 PM
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Well congrats You live in a society that views and blames all of us as of we believe that way, it's awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 06:35 PM
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Its like gravity, what goes up must come down, you can't increase reward without increasing risk, and vice versa. They can shift risk to males, who are largely willing to shoulder it. That's silly (despite the fact that some actually do), in part because, ironically, billionaires have little to do with income inequality. They're the primary beneficiaries of income inequality. Either way, they're the ones in the benefited position, and no, precisely zero of them have sold all their stocks to rein…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 06:35 PM
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Agreed But they won't, and then we're supposed to finance that shit "Sorry I'm a dumbass pls finance my life decisions smart people sorry about ur life" U.S. leftists: "this is reasonable and i am happy to do this!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:30 PM
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School cannot educate people on things like that. And for fucks' sake, yes, it does. I realize it's fashionable and trendy to imply that everywhere in America is some theocratic conservative dystopia teaching your kids abstinence only, but I grew up in a blood red state - we were taught about condoms, the financial impact of having children, etc etc. Still didn't stop teenagers from making babies that you could see in the cafeteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:27 PM
3

... Yeah there are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:27 PM
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lol Good God, do some dudes actually believe this tripe? When in the history of humankind has any group ever walked away from a platform that largely advantages them? That has never happened and fair or unfair, feminism advantages women. They're not going to walk away from that, because the grass literally IS greener both biologically AND once factoring in the fucking cornucopia of legal and social benefits for the Real People who possess vaginas. Who the fuck would turn that away? You might as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:26 PM
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Hopefully a sustainable, modern society. There'll be some economic difficulties but we'll be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:23 PM
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Fictional
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:22 PM
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I think they're probably less common than rape, but more common than reported. A dude's life is less important than a woman's accusation by and large.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:21 PM
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This attitude is seen around her because that’s what many of the males here claim. This attitude is not limited to "around here" YOU were probably raised with some variation of this warning planted in your upbringing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:20 PM
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Men do the exact same thing to women on here. Sure, but that's here, that's not so much publicly as is, say, on your Facebook feed. Or the opinion pages of the Washington Post...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:27 PM
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Incentivize male abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:28 AM
1

Pretty pathetic level of shit to base your ego on, to be honest. Definitely Trouble is, y'all have done a great job tearing that down, with nary a consideration for an alternative. Glad you can find purpose and self-actualization, dunno why you need to take down men's to get it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:16 AM
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They're not though You guys find one fucking troll on the internet and run with it like his bullshit is representative of all men, when you guys ROUTINELY dog on men left right and center loudly proudly and publicly, and then have the gall to be like "omg why are you taking it personally" Like fucking shit do you listen to yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:14 AM
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They won't Men will continue offing themselves at higher and higher rates until a gynocentric government bans guns rather than addressing the root of the problem - and well after women are out earning men and graduating college significantly more and in leadership positions we will no doubt hear about "women's struggle" and how "sexism isn't over" and how "there's such a long way to go" Bottom line, though, there isn't a path to that because enough people - men included - don't want that. We'd j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:12 AM
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I know it is, the point is that people still care about the male lives, see them as valuable. Right - - just less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:05 AM
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Yeah but men cannot gain the female gender role. The only ones who honestly can are biologically born women. I could transition, but we both know that in reality, very few people are genuinely attracted to that and are considerably more likely to be covertly or openly disgusted by it. You're only truly sought after if you're born a woman. The male gender role, however, is consistently under attack by feminists and women generally - there's no space and no profession where men can go that women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:00 AM
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No shit dude
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:56 PM
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Yeah actually, for real, that guy's right - women are the ones demanding some fucking amazing person when they themselves are probably pretty fucking ordinary people But oops sorry i guess that's misogynist now fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:55 PM
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It's not good players, it's entertaining ones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:25 PM
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It is "unsettling" to me in the sense that I would quite literally rather die than pay one red cent to be used in that fashion. The dudes that do pay for OnlyFans are, like, Jesus Christ, I'm pretty fucking cynical but at least i possess an ounce of pride hot stuff can go get a fucking job like the rest of us. In all honesty, it feels like a giant middle finger to young men. Like we’re supposed to be relegated to this role of a subhuman attention scavenger? It is exactly this, which is why if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:24 PM
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I mean you were asking man, i no one is entitled to a relationship but that's what I'm saying - they know what they doin' if they ain't LTRing you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:12 PM
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Lol rich people are weird
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:42 AM
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Let me help you with something here: they didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:40 AM
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Yeah and honestly Melania is high value as fuck that bitch do what she wants, is still fine, speaks tons of languages, and probably had more influence on geopolitics than we can ever know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:39 AM
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"men control all of the high positions in business and Government!" "... ma'am this is a Target"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:38 AM
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They like the dick, but they don't like the idea of a relationship with you i.e. ur being used for dick fam, sorry, i guess? They know what they're doing man, women aren't stupid. They're exceptionally good at masking their honest feelings and men act like it's some big secret but Often the simplest answer is the correct one. We just bend over backwards to assume good faith from women, when realistically they have just as much propensity to be manipulative and deceitful as men, with the added bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:35 AM
1

Variety is the spice of life, and youth is better than elderhood. Marriage isn't fun. It's work, but to be honest, the best and must meaningful things that humans do in this life often aren't fun. Marriage is one of those things. But fuck getting stabbed in the back over it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:32 AM
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"Whenever they feel like it" is situational dependent and very arguable. But you repeat yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:30 AM
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Yeah honestly older women are rad and their standards aren't the absurdity that millennial women have, and the younger women seem to have grown up in a world where they see what millennial women have become and whole they probably identify with some aspects of feminism, tend to agree that needlessly being dicks to men just cuz isn't cool. But that's hardly surprising, millennials are the fucking worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:28 AM
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I don't think they're desperate for commitment For Christ's sake, fully 70% of divorces are initiated by women, how fucking desperate for commitment can they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:26 AM
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It's not dude It's be hot, and that's about it. If you're hot, you're allowed in the club. If you're not, fight for the scraps. That's what the world is, especially in modern society. Abort your sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:24 AM
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"Validated?" Try even having your existence acknowledged. People do acknowledge your existence. Bartenders take your orders, Amazon ships shit to your house. That's acknowledgement. Validation is when someone selects you for intimacy. In my case, a woman. I actually think the only women who can experience this on the same level as men, are lesbians - who also face women's judgement when seeking intimacy. An AI would not have to slather someone with syrupy praise in order to make them happier tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:13 AM
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She's also probably way more fuckable, still, at 40 lol fuck outta here these guys who think women are all dried up at 25 are you fucking serious I'd fuck a 40 year old any day of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:45 AM
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lol I'm... deeeefinitely not an ancap fam. Was, and unlike the turbo leftists out there who think that they're absolutely right about everything forever, I actually DO think the Libertarians make some solid points. So do the leftists, though, and ancaps are wrong: You can't have capitalism without the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:35 AM
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Yeah, I'm decent looking, but i have way more good fortunes IRL than via OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:37 AM
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Because if women were such a prize to all men, they wouldn't be used and thrown aside. Some women are a prize to some men. Some men are a prize to some women. Mmk man you feel free to equivocate, but on the whole? Women are the prize. Like that's not my opinion, men chase, women select.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:46 AM
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Probably, yeah, i definitely feel for them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:45 AM
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Yeah actually, you sorta implied I was a woman and i am not, sooo...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:04 AM
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That isn't a fate most women suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:03 AM
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I don't see what pumping and dumping had to do with that, ostensibly the guy but, even then, he's there for a reason, and it isn't to look at her pogs collection
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:03 AM
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I mean Say what you want, dude, but women are the desired sex. Men ain't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:00 PM
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i'm a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:59 PM
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Yes Ive not seen the world/things change or know what it was like before the internet so I know nothing. LOL You are being a dick assuming because of my age I dont see or know things. Dude, I'm not implying that you don't know things, I'm saying that by virtue of your age, your perspective is totally different. You were at least semi-sapient in the 1970's, I have no fucking clue what that's like but you actually LIVED it during some formative years of your life. Likewise, you were 30-31 when 9/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:59 PM
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tbh I kind of agree, I've got friends of mine that utterly kill it at Tinder that are not your conventional Chad... and then I've got friends of mine who ARE your conventional Chad, who get matches, but are consistently stood up on Tinder and the like - but kill it in real life. The fact is, in real life, be hot, because if you're hot, you can be forward with women. If you're not hot, go be alone, or go be a supplicating beta and steel yourself for the inevitability of being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:46 PM
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I dont come across bitter women hating men in real life, ever. Im almost 50 so lived long enough to see things coming across many women in my time. you're 50, case closed. Not trying to be a dick, but when you were my age this internet bullshit wouldn't reach full social justice outrage for another 10+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:44 PM
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Because women have been conditioned to believe they are inherently a prize. like it or not, though, mother nature is a woman, and imbued team woman with that. They think they're a prize... because they are a prize. Biology ensured that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:43 PM
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They've been barraged with "you GO girl!" and "you don't need no man!" and "men bad" rhetoric since before they could learn to speak - why is this surprising for you? There is one group of people on Earth that gets a free pass for judging all other groups with a broad brush: Heterosexual women. If you happen to be a white woman, you are in the elite class of people who are among the most privileged people to have ever lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:41 PM
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You are guilty by association just as much as I am for shit feminist I dont even know say cool, so I'm not, and history therefore doesn't fucking matter Male victimhood does not exist. I generally agree! To the extent that, by and large, neither does female victimhood. On the fucking internet, you not allowed to speak freely ya no shit, you're talking on other people's servers, to other people with their own thoughts and feelings. I know it's probably hard for you to come to grips with, but you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:48 PM
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No, "dude" history is always in play. What a male thing to say. Actually, yeah, that's perfect - leave it to a woman to bring up shit the guy isn't guilty of, or which was resolved in a previous argument, or which she isn't even a victim of to somehow bolster her case. Makes perfect sense how guys born in the late 1980's who just want a job are now evil sexists for having committed the crime of being born white and male. In REAL life, we are trained to be inoffensive while men get to ask things …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:35 PM
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nah, but that's the thing: I suspect men aren't (perhaps should be, but aren't) as concerned with the "expensive consequences" of being cheated on by their woman, with another man. They're concerned with the fact that she found "someone better", and the blow to their own self-esteem that comes with that. That's why men don't like cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:33 PM
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And I'm just saying - dudes who would feel that way would get the "ur homophobic" label flung at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:38 PM
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Dude first off, no, history isn't in play here and secondly, no, y'all have your pussy pass from saying offensive shit nowadays - dudes don't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:32 PM
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No no, i mean to hear the reasons why you'd be hurt/angry if he cheated on you with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:30 PM
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No They actively penalize it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:29 PM
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