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| – | Women Who Out-Earn Their Husbands/Partners: How Do You Think About Marriage and Divorce?When I was the breadwinner, I didn't think about it much. Realistically, we were never gonna be in a circumstance in which spousal support would be a factor. He wasn't SAH long-term, so being in that situation wasn't creating a future economic disadvantage for him. If it had, then spousal support would've been just. Neither of us had anything when we got married, so all of our assets were obtained bc of our marriage. It would've been right to divide them equally, so no issue there. If he had lef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/26 01:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.I'm pretty sure these dudes just don't think of women as having brains. Like that's not a factor in their lives at all. Until we get to an age where we have experience and knowledge. We're no fun when we think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 01:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.Nah. Y'all just lack the ability to recognize and utilize metaphors, and get way too emotional over words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 01:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.Normal ppl don't only view children thru the lens of predation. It's not rational to interpret a metaphor including, "If I play a trick on a child..." as, "You literally abuse children." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 12:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money."It doesn't. Ohhhh... Oops." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.That hasn't been the topic of discussion at all. Your objection was that something like, "men need to work on X," isn't real advice, bc it doesn't come with the explainations, breakdowns, steps, etc. My argument was that men don't need women to provide those things, as they're capable of getting started by themselves. Samples from our exchange: Good advice breaks a huge vague problem into something a person can actually work on. "You miss subtle social cues, so start learning body language and p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 08:03 AM |
| -1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.Metaphors really are not men's strong suit, are they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Who said anything about requiring women to put in labor first? We say, "men need to work on being good ppl." You respond that you need us to define that, break it down, lay out the steps, explain why and how, arrange one-on-one tutoring... otherwise, it's completely meaningless and we suck. That's all work that women have to now put in before men will do anything. And if you didn't develop that foundation naturally, learning it later can be brutal. Now you're consciously reverse-engineering thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 02:23 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.So someone with less experience and knowledge is easier to scam. I agree. If we take someone who lacks experience and knowledge, and put them in a room with one potential scammer, they are at high risk. Can you explain to me how their risk is lowered by adding more potential scammers to the room? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/26 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.People don't know what they don't know. They might not know what behavior is causing the problem • what terminology to search • what advice is actually relevant • whether they're even evaluating themselves correctly. When is this not true? Because you can imagine identifying the problem, Googling it, sorting through the information, accurately diagnosing yourself and fixing it, you treat that entire process as trivial for everyone else. We aren't limited to only doing trivial things. I haven't r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 11:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.How does anyone get scammed at an oil change? Not just a woman, but anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 08:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.I wish this weren't so sad. I hope you can figure out how to live in a world where children exist and will sometimes be mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 08:32 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.Bc it's an obvious example. Same reason math word problems happen in grocery stores so much. The most obvious way we use math is with money. If you cannot see the word without reacting strongly, regardless of how it's being used, that's on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 08:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.No, it didn't. The only thing that changes a knowledge and experience imbalance is knowledge and experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 08:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.Congratulations on reading! That has absolutely nothing to do with the imbalance. Like saying the mechanic can't take advantage of me bc I'm rich. Not connected, at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 08:17 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.No one called you anything. There was absolutely nothing in that metaphor that implied child abuse in any way. It's apparent that you simply saw, "child," and stopped reading. If you hadn't, we wouldn't be having this conversion, bc you wouldn't be confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 08:12 PM |
| -2 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.No. It's literally a metaphor. When you don't get something, it can often be explained in another context. Then you can take the understanding and move it back into the original context. Since you're emotional about the word, "child," for some reason, let's try another route. I know much less about a car than a mechanic. If I go to a mechanic, and he says I need to replace my muffler bearings, he could potentially get an extra fee out of me. He has the upper hand bc I don't know the grift is hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 07:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.Bc the difference between a child and an adult is clear. It's called a metaphor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 06:59 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with older men dating younger women for physique, nor younger women dating older men for money.In both scenarios, the older partner has the advantage. I can trick a little kid into giving me a dime in exchange for a nickel. They think they understand what's going on. They're trading small for big. Seems logical. They just don't have the life experience to understand that there's more info, and more nuance, involved. The unevenness in knowledge means I have the advantage. If a little kid asks me to buy their nickel for a dime, and I do it, I'm playing along. There's no unevenness in knowle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 06:05 PM |
| 20 | How important is a woman’s first time, really?It's not magic. Whether or not someone romanticizes it is personal. But there's nothing inherently wowing about it. Providing that it's consensual, and not traumatic, there's no weird deep alteration. The, "your first time is so special," stuff comes from the need to convince women to save it for marriage, so that inheritance wasn't contested. Like telling a teen that their first drink will be so special, in the hopes that it'll inspire them to wait for a special occasion. Ime, the first time (f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Do you genuinely think a "student-mentor" kind of relationship cannot be healthy?It can be. There's also a risk, and prevalence, of unhealthy versions. Which is why attention is necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/26 01:54 PM |
| -1 | We’ve become so obsessed with proving our masculinity that we’ve forgotten what being a man actually meansIt's all made up. The traits and behaviors associated with a gender change, depending on when and where you happen to be. Ultimately, it's just a set of stereotypes that the dominant demographic (men, currently) dictates arbitrarily. Being "a real man" is just being a good, healthy person, while using the parts of masculinity you like and leaving the rest. I'd suggest that part of the need to prove that a man is def a part of the demographic of men is securing privilege. The reason men wanna mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 06:21 PM |
| -5 | We’ve become so obsessed with proving our masculinity that we’ve forgotten what being a man actually meansIf your version of maintaining yourself requires you to shirk responsibility for your choices and harm other ppl, you oughta scratch at that. Defining yourself as pure selfishness and entitlement is really insulting. Defining men that way is misandry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 05:58 PM |
| – | Men who want to go 50/50 to avoid being used by women should instead plan dates centred around their own intereststhe idea is that you enjoy what the date is going to be about regardless of whether things go well with the woman and so it ends up not being a waste of money to you This is genuinely the most "duh" idea. Top 3, at least. A date is like a bday party or a wedding. Sam wants to do this activity, and wants it to be a bonding experience, too. So, Sam invites ppl to join in. Invitations are requests. They're a way of asking someone nicely to do something for you. It's rude af to charge someone to do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 03:02 PM |
| 13 | In their attempt to talk shit about women, men end up talking shit about themselves.True in general. There's so much internalized misandry that it would be genuinely hard to make men look worse than other men make them look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/26 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have children with a man who isn’t your ideal, or never have children?10% rate of nonviability with modern processes. Chances of having a miscarriage are higher than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 07:55 PM |
| 6 | Would you rather have children with a man who isn’t your ideal, or never have children?It doesn't. However, it's a bit like putting a kid up for adoption. It's often the best route when you're already in that circumstance, regardless of statistical issues. But it's better if the circumstance doesn't happen. Deliberately creating it is unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 05:29 PM |
| 6 | Would you rather have children with a man who isn’t your ideal, or never have children?Absolutely. I go straight to the kids, bc their entire lives hinge on it. But everyone involved deserve better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 05:10 PM |
| 28 | Would you rather have children with a man who isn’t your ideal, or never have children?Never have them. We owe children more than, "well, I panicked and grabbed whoever was nearby, and that's why you have to live with lukewarm parents in a problematic relationship/have divorced parents/whatever." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 04:49 PM |
| 12 | Egg freezing symbolizes a big failure of feminism.Where's the support for your assumed premise that women cannot live without being a wife and mother? Just saying it doesn't make it true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Weird how, as soon as, "women do this, so your excuse doesn't pass the smell test," the ad hominem comes out. Again, it just comes back to not wanting to do it. It's hard, it takes time, nobody will do the work for you, so you quit. Which is fine. You can just say that. However bad you think the optics are with that admission, insisting men are inherently inferior is much, much worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 10:43 AM |
| 1 | What real advice would you give men for dating.Individual preferences are just that. There's no magic combo. For me... He needs to be compatible. If we don't line up when it comes to the important things (personality, goals, values, lifestyle, hobbies, religion, politics, relationship and family expectations, sexuality, etc), we'd just fight constantly. Those values need to be solid. If he plans to "be what I want," I can't trust him. He needs to know who he is. If his identity and character are wishy-washy, we don't belong together. He need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.I'm not saying people can't teach themselves. That's very much the crux of it. "just Google it" is not a serious answer I'd suggest starting with an encyclopedia if that were still the standard. Google is a privilege when it comes to starting points. there is no clear curriculum Why would you need one? Worse, people often don't even give you useful feedback. You might do something they dislike and they won't explain it. They'll just get colder, avoid you, stop inviting you around. You know somet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 02:48 AM |
| 0 | "Don't make dating/relationship your goal" is the worst advice possibleIf I failed That's part of the point. If any of the things that were out of your control had not aligned, that would've been "failure." But it would've had absolutely nothing to do with you. The idea that being unlucky, for lack of a better term, is some sort of personal failure is unhealthy. It causes ppl to punish, overextend, and chip away at themselves. And it's extremely common among ppl who hyperfixate on dating. The more they invest, the more desperately they need to see "success," despit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/26 12:01 AM |
| 1 | "Don't make dating/relationship your goal" is the worst advice possibleMaximizing our chances is a good thing. We do that by being ready if opportunity knocks, and making sure that the person who answers the door is best version of ourselves. What's being warned against when ppl suggest not making dating the center of everything is detrimental obsession. That includes thinking that increased chances must be a guarantee, even tho they aren't. My point is that most of it is chance. I'm genuinely glad he had a good experience. I can also see multiple points at which i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Yes, ppl who can identify logical fallacies can vote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 10:01 PM |
| 1 | "Don't make dating/relationship your goal" is the worst advice possiblethese cons don’t apply to people who can easily date. So a person who obsesses over dating, but doesn't easily date, can't experience them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 09:59 PM |
| -1 | "Don't make dating/relationship your goal" is the worst advice possibleNothing made me grow more as a person than deciding that I was done being lonely I'm glad you had a good experience. You couldn't possibly have done anything to guarantee being hired in the work you sought out. If you'd never been hired, would you have grown in the same way? Whether or not anyone chose to be your friend along the way wasn't up to you. If they hadn't, would that have affected you? Whether or not the women you chased left was completely out of your hands. If they had, would that h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.No. The topic is whether or not a specific thought process is logical: "I assume that there is a magic lever that will dispense women if I just figure out how to pull it. I was advised by women to be nice. I assume that being nice must be how I pull that lever. I'm nice. No women are dispensed. I am justified in being angry with women. They either lied and are keeping the secret of the lever from me, or they are defying the lever to hurt me." Your rebuttal at this point is that dating is emotion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.You're seriously underestimating how much background knowledge it takes just to know what to search for. Gee, I wonder how I could figure out how to be a better person. Maybe by googling, "how to be a better person"? No, that can't be it. If only I could connect two dots. Most people aren't autodidacts. They learn through school, guidance, and experience. If you've learned literally anything outside of formal education, you are capable. Being seen as a "good person" is not the same as being a go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Therefore a man who throws chairs bc Santa (the magic lever) didn't show up (dispense a woman) is totally normal, and it's women's fault for not making Santa (the magic lever) real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Therefore a man who throws chairs bc Santa didn't show up is totally normal, and it's women's fault for not making Santa real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.That reply is incredibly illogical. It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not it's logical to believe in a woman-dispensing lever, or whether or not that irrational belief should be validated just bc you have feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Has nothing to do with pills. Just logic. Santa isn't real, and it makes no sense for an adult to believe he is. Doesn't matter that Christmas is an extremely emotional phenomenon. He's still not real, and it still makes no sense for an adult to believe he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Women can't even take a fraction of the snark they have for men collectively.Very, "idc if I spent all your money and beat you up, what you said hurt my feelings, so you're just as bad." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Women can't even take a fraction of the snark they have for men collectively.Lmao as if what it means is that men will send us money, and not that men will SA us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Bro, you aren't even being logical here. "Someone makes choices I don't agree with, so I should be able to believe something that makes no sense at all and expect reality to change to match my ideas." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:06 PM |
| 6 | Women can't even take a fraction of the snark they have for men collectively.History comes right up to yesterday. It's not all ancient. And its effects don't just disappear. (Like pretending it doesn't matter whether you're born into a family that's been building its wealth, status, education and solidity for 100 generations, or one that's been progressing for 7 generations, since you aren't being born into US slavery yourself.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.What are you talking about? Of course it does. Just bc emotions are involved doesn't mean irrational ideas are suddenly useful. It's still happening within reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 07:53 PM |
| 19 | "Don't make dating/relationship your goal" is the worst advice possible"Kidnap potential partners," is demonstrably worse. There are plenty of issues with hyperfocusing on dating. A lot of ppl stop actually living, and miss out on growing as a person, experiencing things, building friendships, achieving goals, etc. "I'll do it after I find someone," is not a mistake that they can easily recover from. And it's miserable. Then there's trying to force every connection into a relationship. That means potential friendships are driven away, increasing isolation. More unh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Why do women give themselves passes for trying to defy a "real man" but men immediately get shunned when they try and defy women?You're gonna have to re-write this. It doesn't track. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Okay... which ones? You literally just listed some really good ones. Why pretend like you need someone to make a list for you, when you're obv perfectly capable of doing it? Good advice breaks a huge vague problem into something a person can actually work on. Only if you're incapable of doing that on your own. You're not. Pretending you are only makes you look like you believe yourself (and other men) to be incompetent. as evidence that the solution itself is simple. Just bc going thru the steps… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Excellent reveal! So it's not about whether or not it's actionable. It's about whether or not it's easy. I know it's a bit tangential, but... When the issue is laziness, just say that. Bc if it's not laziness, it's incapability. Being incapable of something like drawing conclusions, dedicating time, utilizing resources, exercising work ethic... and saying it's bc of manhood... is misandry. It's lowering men to a place beneath women by portraying them as inherently lacking, just bc they're men. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 12:04 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Logic has nothing to do with gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/26 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Some of it is at least determined early enough in life that it's not practical to consider it changeable. Why does that matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Really not getting how big of a leap that is. If I tell you to shower and dress nice for an interview, to give yourself better chances, and you do, you could still not get the job. You could do it for every single interview, and not get any of those jobs. Do you then conclude that HR managers actually prefer stained clothes? Maybe that having good hygiene is holding you back? Or that I'm a liar or saboteur for suggesting that you clean up a little? Are those logical conclusions to make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Plugging in the toaster is an absolute necessity Being a good person is essential to live well. If someone who is already going out of their way to be a good person is being told that being a good person is a prerequisite to getting a partner It improves your chances. Which is all you can do. You have no control over whether an opportunity arises, or whether that opportunity works out. Only whether or not you've put yourself in the best position to make the most of it. The version of you who use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Men who genuinely struggle with earning female interest end up 25 with nothing to show for it because all they have done is treat women nicely. Love the implication that 25 is old. lol You're way too close to puberty to panic like that. Regardless, you're assuming that being nice has prevented him from finding a partner, or has failed to improve his chances. There's no evidence of that at all. Let's say I'm gonna give you $1 if you show me a 6. You start out with a 20-sided die - 5% chance of ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Tangential, but also silly. The instructions on my toaster include plugging it in. I am capable of reading that, knowing that I've already done it, and then going on with my life. No throwing chairs, no tears, no accusing the booklet of anything... A pretty substantial part of adulthood is acknowledging and moving forward without getting upset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.However, that isn't the claim. My guy is going to scrub his nuts until they glow, but he will continue to go from interview to interview, getting his dumbass rejected because having a shower doesn't automatically make him a good candidate for the job. That is the claim. He is making the exact same assumption that the men we're discussing are. "If I pull the lever, the thing will be dispensed." And it's entirely illogical. He assumes that EVENTUALLY someone is going to appreciate the fact he rout… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.If your partner asks you to make dinner, what do you do? A. Go check the fridge to see what's there, thus beginning the process of phase one - figuring out what to make. B. Google it, bc it's not really intuitive for you to know where to start, but you're an adult, so you look for info you don't have. C. Stand in the kitchen in silence. D. Get mad bc it's obv impossible and meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 01:55 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.And they do want someone kind Then they're being honest. If you ask me what kind of food I like, I'll prob say something like, "sweet, spicy and consistent in texture." That's obv not the end of it. But we're not having an academic discussion. I don't wanna write a book, and you don't wanna read it. If you ask me that question in the context of picking up takeout, I'm not gonna include things that aren't applicable, like "cooked in cast iron." I like that, but you have no control over it, so it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Of course he would assume he needs to actually meet and spend time with the woman He's assuming that he will meet and spend time with the right woman, under ideal circumstances, with no other impediments, on his schedule. If an HR manager says, "I prefer interviewees who shower," do you jump straight to, "if I shower, I'll get hired"? Of course not. For that to be true, a thousand other things have to line up first, so that the only thing between you and an offer is your hygiene. Obv, that's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.I know it's branching into a tangent, but... It's exhausting to hear men harp on their looks when discussing dating. They have nothing to do with their DNA, and it's not actionable. Why keep kicking at it when there are individualized and actionable stuff to focus on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Why is this only limited to guys and dating? That's... That's the subject matter. You're pretty likely to see someone say, "syrup is good on waffles," in a convo about waffles. Less likely to hear, "syrup is good on pancakes." Bc the topic is waffles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 11:29 AM |
| 0 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.It would be reasonable for a man reading that to infer: "If I am nice, eventually a woman will find me attractive" To get from A to B, he would have to assume that he's guaranteed to come into contact with a woman who sees him as compatible. That it'll be close and prolonged contact to a degree that reveals said compatibility. That it'll happen within whatever time frame he sets (bc that's what "eventually" actually means). That the timing and circumstances will align. That there will be no othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 11:25 AM |
| 0 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Men frequently are not listening. Which is kinda the point. "I find kindness attractive," doesn't mean, "be nice and the universe will dispense a woman." Getting from A to B requires a lot of assumptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 11:04 AM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Did... did you read this and conclude that being nice will cause the universe to dispense a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 10:59 AM |
| 0 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning."Being a good person improves your chances," and "being a good person will cause the universe to dispense a woman," are not the same thing. Srsly, y'all act like you just fell off the turnip truck sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning."Be decent," absolutely is actionable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 10:53 AM |
| 3 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.You have to make a lot of assumptions to get from, "they said to be a good person," to, "being a good person will cause the universe to dispense a woman." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 10:50 AM |
| 0 | Women Hold Men to Masculine Standards But Rationalize Them As Human Standards Because Admitting You See Men A Certain Way Exposes How You View Women As Wellconfident, independent, emotionally stable, assertive, sexually forward, competent, capable of standing up for himself, etc. But are they really treated as equally necessary in women? They aren't merely seen as necessary. They're factually necessary for a woman to live well in the world. If she doesn't cultivate those traits, she's sacrificing the ability to take care of and defend herself, handle issues, plan and reach goals, navigate education and the workplace, be taken as seriously as the me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/26 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.I'd say that falls under grasping author intent more than vocabulary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 10:52 PM |
| 4 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Yeah, not knowing what logical fallacies are, and just using the words, is an indicator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.This makes it sound less like it's about behaviours and more like environments under which a man finds himself. It's both. When a boy or man absorbs the stereotypes, experiences the pressure, and is harmed by other ppl's behavior, he's a victim. When he spreads the stereotypes, applies pressure on others, and engages in those behaviors himself, he's also a participant. We don't say that boys and men are both participants and victims just bc it sounds cool. why it's always said that men need to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Because they are told that being nice will draw people towards them, and that being kind and a good person "A girl will find you eventually". The same men are not angry that Whiskers didn't actually go to a farm upstate, the bullies weren't actually jealous, they won't actually become astronauts (even if they work hard), etc. We learn as we grow up that most of what mom said to comfort us as children was fluff, not an accurate representation of reality. It's illogical to suggest that there's any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Masculinity first. That's a collection of traits, behaviors, and cues that are associated with men in a given time and culture. Toxic masculinity is the performance of stereotypes of masculinity, under pressure, in a way that damages physical and mental health and results in negative effects for the ppl expressing it and the ppl around them. (Includes the stereotypes themselves, and the act of putting pressure on someone to perform them.) Healthy masculinity is the voluntary, unpressured express… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 09:27 PM |
| 0 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.You're doing way more alteration than you think. "Be nice," doesn't lead directly to, "being nice is a critical key to successful dating." First you have to make assumptions... That it's not only possible for there to be a functionally universal key, but that there is, and that it's a behavior. That a woman valuing a trait in men means she must find it sexually/romantically motivating. That sexual/romantic motivation must be actionable. That actionable sexual/romantic motivation leads to success… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 09:18 PM |
| 10 | Guys who struggle with dating show a common problem: Motivated reasoning.Literacy may have more to do with it than we'd like to believe. More than half of the US is at or below a 6th grade level. That means they have a basic vocabulary, can read longer documents, can form a conclusion based on more than one criterion... but can't reliably identify sarcasm, thematic patterns, metaphors (and other non-literal constructs), logical fallacies, source bias or author intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?No one in your house can do chores. You each have to hire someone to take care of your tasks. Who has to hire someone first? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 01:46 PM |
| 1 | I'm tired of the lying and the Gaslighting. Women approaching men has MORE advantages then if a guy approaches women.If what you say about men were true, they wouldn't be worth the effort, even with a guarantee of physical safety. "Come get this really crappy product that you don't need or want, and btw, walk thru glass to get it, or I'll whine to you that sales are down." Excellent pitch. I'll take none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 01:46 PM |
| 4 | What do you do for a living?Ime, the men who want credit for working those high-risk jobs not only don't work them, but they don't want things to change. They don't want women to work them, and they don't want the jobs to be safer. They don't actually respect or care about those men. They just wanna whine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Brutal truth: as you get old and the more you fail in relationships, higher chances you'll die aloneThat's like saying it's a harsh reality that young ppl will eventually grow up and care less about others' opinions, leading to fewer of them getting the approval of random ppl. Not getting approval is inconsequential if you don't care. Either way is fine. Nobody cries bc either way is fine. That's not loss. If anything, it's freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:28 PM |
| 9 | How do women know what about personality turns them on?It's a whole package. Like a recipe. Everything works together to make one cohesive unit that whips up the happiness chemicals. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/26 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Women are Not Entitled to Men's Credulity towards their "Lived Experiences" and Self-Reports Regarding Dating, Men, etc.You see women migrate to dangerous cities from less dangerous cities for work Women do not have the luxury of opting out of bills. You see Women enroll and move away in College, despite the fact they apparently have a 1/4 chance of being r aped. Women do not have the luxury of receiving an education without actually going to school. (And men are increasingly disinterested in higher education. Removing women from the arena would inevitably worsen the numbers of educated professionals in the workf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Men are literally more likely to die from physical violence than women. Perpetrated by other men. Other men are a credible threat to your safety. Are you trying to date them? So a man has never been assaulted by a woman throughout human history? Nope. However, straight cis men are not at significant risk of date rape. They're drugged half as often. And we know that the perpetrators of SA of men are overwhelmingly men. Again, other men are a credible threat to your safety. Are you trying to date … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 01:32 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks?The understanding that men have value is appropriate. They do. The idea that recognizing it will fix them is lovely. Very romantic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Because that is exactly what men have always had to do. Men do not have to worry about being physically attacked by a woman after ending an interaction. Men do not have to send their location to anyone while on a date, or rely on check-ins or other safety behaviors. When a date goes bad, men go home, not to the hospital for a rape kit. Men are at much lower risk for STIs and injury during intimacy. The number of cis men who risk pregnancy - and therefore medical bankruptcy, loss of fertility, di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 07:39 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks?Every person has intrinsic value. That means I care when they're persecuted, seek to protect their safety and rights. When it comes to strangers, I absolutely give basic respect. That means courtesy, compassion, freedom and accountability. The sentiment itself is lovely and absolutely appropriate. In practice, I'm unconvinced of the effect. Ime, men look for niceness, which is just a pleasurable behavior. When I actually didn't respect or value men, I was never accused of that, bc I replaced it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.That's not what you said. Didn't think I needed to spell that out. I'm not in the habit of assuming ppl are laughably out of touch with reality. An excuse All I'm hearing from over there is excuses. It's hard, she might hurt my feelings, I might not get everything I want out of life in return for minimal effort. So sad. weak women Awww Target is too weak to chase after you to fill that cashier position. That must be it. It's perfectly logical to put in 100% of the work and take on 100% of the ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Headhunting is common. Not in regular jobs, my guy. Avg ppl are not recognized names in their field with proven reliability. The argument being made here is that avg men, who invest little and are a liability, shouldn't have to get on Indeed. It's too much work. Target should be in their inbox, asking to spend $4k on them. And no, that's not logical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 05:41 PM |
| 10 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Denying men's intelligence is one of the most blatant forms of misandry. It's beyond me that so many men are not only cool with that, but use it themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 02:39 PM |
| 9 | Common media constantly tries to conflate men as a group with their worst denominators to try to impose collective guilt.Your counter is that the men being asked were dumb. I don't buy that. Say I ask you, "Have you ever exposed yourself to someone without their consent?" And you've changed into your jammies with your partner in the room. Are you gonna tell me that yes, you have? Of course not. It's clear that I'm not asking whether anyone has seen you changing clothes in your own bedroom. I'm not asking if your bully pantsed you in middle school. Or if you lost your swimsuit on a crazy waterslide and had to scram… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 01:03 PM |
| – | It is not true that consenting homemakers are considered "valid" by feminism.No idea what kind of privilege you're talking about, since we've touched on 2 separate kinds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:55 PM |
| – | It is not true that consenting homemakers are considered "valid" by feminism.Different kind of privilege. Systemic privilege is a statistical advantage conferred solely bc others see and treat a person differently due to an intrinsic trait. Eg. Say we take a man and a woman who are equal in all other ways, and put them in a room. If one of them is given a raise, it's more likely to be the man. That's what privilege means in that context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 11:12 AM |
| – | It is not true that consenting homemakers are considered "valid" by feminism.it is not considered a privilege A privilege, in this context, would be something that's better. Seeing it as equally valid specifically means it's not better or worse. It should be included in wage gap conversations There's no wage involved. We also don't include ppl who don't have testicles in conversations about testicular cancer... the fact that men were virtually never allowed to pursue this "valid lifestyle" could be noted Not sure how often you discuss it, or with whom. The fact that men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Clothes that fit and are clean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Sorry we can't recommend the best costume to zip into. That's not how it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Uhh... tough break? Besides, that's a silly way to determine your style. It's not like you can "go back to normal" after she agrees to a second date. Can't find someone who wants to be with you by pretending to be someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:01 AM |
| 2 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.Women shoulder the safety risk of dating in the same way that businesses shoulder the financial risk of hiring. Headhunting is uncommon for a reason. The job seeker is asking the business to take on a risk for them. The effort they put into the process builds confidence that it'll be a worthwhile long-term investment. It's unwise to go around offering the investment to ppl who haven't expressed any interest unless that confidence already exists. So, no, it's not logical. But that's ultimately ir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.It's too broad and fluid to be meaningful. A dude is better off taking care of his body and looking the way he wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Women should make the first move, its better for everyone.If these guys could just chill, they wouldn't be here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:00 AM |
| – | Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifyingIf a man won't date a 60-yr-old, does that mean he dislikes or hates older women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 01:01 PM |
| 0 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicthat's a description of what happens, not a justification for why we should keep building social norms around it in 2026. It didn't stop being true. Women are still at higher risk while dating and in relationships, all the way around. The party taking on the most risk logically takes the less active role much of the time, while the party that takes on the least risk actively demonstrates that the investment would be well-spent. Might as well ask why companies don't headhunt with the same frequen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 01:00 PM |
| – | Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifyingYour observation is that a person must think X is a bad thing if they don't consider ppl who have/are X to be potential partners. X absolutely can be - and usually is - a neutral trait. Neutral traits are not bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:58 AM |
| 1 | People who clown on age gap relationships are toxicThe number of ppl who truly believe you have to be the exact same age is infinitesimal, assuming they exist at all. You're presenting a strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:47 AM |
| – | Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifyingNope. They're both equally valid choices. I support parents. I just don't wanna be one myself. Ordering a burger doesn't mean you think the rest of the menu is bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:45 AM |
| – | Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifying"Not right for me," and, "bad," are not the same thing. I don't date ppl who wanna have kids, bc I don't wanna have kids. There's nothing wrong with either side. We just aren't right for each other. Being incompatible is neutral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Women are lucky that men tend to have low standards and be simps.Might wanna double-check what that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 04:25 PM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosWhistling at someone is context based. Everything is. That's the point. only if you're attracted to child-like qualities Nope. Only if you're going after actual children. (Most predators aren't attracted to the children they target, but that's a different convo.) An adult who's autistic, bubbly, short, disabled, or has a high-pitched voice, a baby face, cute hobbies, etc, is an adult. There's absolutely nothing about them that invalidates their ability to consent. On the other side, a child who'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 04:18 PM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosPower imbalances are a red flag. That doesn't mean they're always bad. It means they can be. There's reason to examine it. Kinda like when my car throws an error code. It's not always something that needs to be fixed. It's just a sign that there could be an issue, and I oughta take a sec to look. zero relationship history isn't the same as zero life experience. You weren't in a coma. You've been absorbing information and developing as a person this whole time. Not to be a Patrick meme, but... yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 02:29 PM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosWomen are fully psychologically developed by 32. With men it's about 43. Nope. No one is ever fully psychologically developed. Everyone learns and changes uniquely. Trends in growth patterns are trait-specific. If we wanna line up boys and girls according to self-control skill development, older boys will end up standing next to younger girls. If we line them up according to visual-spacial skill development, the reverse is true. Thinking of yourself as inherently less developed is prob not healt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:53 PM |
| – | Women have no problems with "power dynamics" if it’s something they’re attracted to and validates their egosSeems like an adversarial attitude. I wasted yrs in therapy that way. Resisted, refused, got defensive, slacked off... like a critter in a trap making it harder for the person trying to get it out. I hope things improve for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 01:37 PM |
| – | what preferences are women allowed to have?The fact that something is possible doesn't make it good, healthy or reasonable. It's possible for my partner to stop doing what he likes and change his lifestyle as soon as we start dating. It's still concerning if he does - I would hope his friends would sit him down. And it's still unreasonable for me to expect it. If you want a goldfish, get a goldfish. Don't get a parrot and then complain that it won't stay in the aquarium. Compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 08:08 PM |
| – | what preferences are women allowed to have?We consistently see men denying that personality can be a preference. It must be looks and money and, if anyone says any different, they're lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 07:53 PM |
| 1 | What was it like when you had your first period?I'd been hoping for it, since a friend got hers. I knew the basics from reading, but it wasn't talked about. I didn't realize it would hurt. That was scary. But I'd been carrying products around with me for a while. So at least I wasn't caught out. Unfortunately for me, my parents were the only ones around who were kinda liberal, comparatively. So most of my classmates didn't know much, if anything. Teachers weren't allowed to tell anyone anything, or provide supplies. So Mom sent me with extra … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:53 PM |
| 1 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?If telling someone not to do something granted us power over them, this wouldn't be a conversation. I could just say, "don't kick ppl when they're down," and that would be it. No need to explain why it's rude or cruel. Or that shame doesn't work. Or that our emotions are ours to manage. Or that what you're describing there is rude, but not at all the same as, "you should've XYZ." I'd say, "sign me up," but I value autonomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 12:18 AM |
| 1 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?We don't "let" other adults do anything. We don't own them. Control isn't the goal when giving genuine advice. If you can't handle someone else's choices, it's on you to set healthy boundaries and process your emotions around it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 08:33 PM |
| 1 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?Is their cancer gonna get cancer? Coming across like the nurses who tried to refuse my dying great-grandma morphine bc she could be addicted. Overriding autonomy to satisfy your opinions is pretty shitty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 08:10 PM |
| 2 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?Huge pivot from, "What, is my cancer gonna get cancer?" to, "waste of that lump of meat in their skull." But the person kicking them isn't saying, "let's talk about quitting now." They're saying, "you should've quit in the past." What they're applying pressure to is something that can't be changed, only obsessed over. Completely different thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 08:02 PM |
| 1 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?Missed the part where we know that it doesn't work, I guess... It doesn't work. Shame doesn't work. The only thing that kicking someone when they're down does is provide pleasure for the person doing the kicking. It's sadism. In this context, it's punishment for not prioritizing the kicker enough. "Fuck right off," is an excellent response to some sicko reveling in your pain. If only women could say that without men showing up to say that's unfair to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 07:54 PM |
| 2 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?Do you get into a relationship without thinking, stay in it for a split second, and move on immediately without any actual effect on your life or self? That's incredible. For the rest of us, it's a major life event that spans weeks to yrs and is followed by a period of healing. From a psychological standpoint, the process of ending a relationship is equivalent to grieving a death or going thru substance withdrawal. So it's more like going up to a person who's been diagnosed with cancer and sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 07:20 PM |
| 1 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?What you're saying is that you don't understand the difference between a Dr who says, "you should've stopped smoking," and one who says, "let's talk about what you can do now." (Ftr, cancer and bad relationships both frequently come with no warning. The first sign is often something that the avg person would consider minor. And gradual change delays detection. Moralizing relationship outcomes and moralizing health are pretty parallel.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 04:28 PM |
| 2 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?Good thing that doesn't have anything to do with it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 03:48 PM |
| 2 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?Harping on past events that are unchangeable is punishment. It only serves to pile on shame (which, in turn, tanks self-esteem and creates depression and anxiety). If someone miscarries, you don't go on a rant about all the things they "should've" done. If you're close enough to have that kind of discussion, you talk about what can be done moving forward. Hope, not shame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 03:46 PM |
| 1 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?When is it fair to turn to someone who's just been diagnosed with cancer and say, "you should've stopped smoking"? It's not. Even if you believe they've made a moral violation that deserves punishment, cancer is enough. Piling shame on top is just sadistic. A good rule of thumb when it comes to your feelings on someone else's life choices is to just set boundaries. If you're close, you can bring it up once. If they ask, you can respond tactfully and kindly, and with forward orientation. (What to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 03:28 PM |
| 2 | When is it fair to say "you should have chosen better"?They're very different. One is punishment, the other is planning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also singleThe assumptions there are that women need to pick from what's on offer, and that rejection has moral weight. Neither are true. I'm not "better than" every man I reject. We aren't compatible. That's just circumstance. And I'm not required to pick the "best" out of the bunch. I can ultimately go without. (The same is true in reverse, but men generally don't consider it a valid choice.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Women are lucky that men tend to have low standards and be simps.I don't think life is that simple. Life is much less complicated than we often make it out to be. assuming all these guys are just raging, hateful, bitter, weirdos. Which simply isn't true. It's often true, and we can tell whether an individual falls into one or more of those categories. Bc he shows us via his words and choices. It's not appropriate to see someone being hateful, bitter and nonsensical and do gymnastics to justify their choices, just bc it's "mean" to say that they're being hatef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 05:23 PM |
| 8 | Women are lucky that men tend to have low standards and be simps.So close... Insufferable and annoying guys are insufferable and annoying. Natural social consequences, like choosing not to be their friends, are appropriate. Men who choose misery will be miserable. All anyone else can do is leave the door open and respect their choice. That includes setting healthy boundaries so that their own lives stay on track while said men figure themselves out. And men who are looking for women to fix them have a "broken" view of themselves, others, and life. They aren't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsIt would be fine if a company rejected my requests for free stuff, except that it's a small company. Only massive companies can tell me that I'm not getting free stuff like a celebrity, bc I'm not a celebrity. If a small company doesn't give me free stuff, they're delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 01:35 PM |
| 4 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsWomen just need to assume men are stupid, childish and ethically stunted. Therefore, they can't be held accountable for their own choices. It's on women to make sure that the consequences of those choices don't fall on the men making them. Of course, then those men can't give meaningful consent, so no one should be sleeping with them. It would be like being with a child or a person who's profoundly disabled and unable to make any of their own decisions. If that's all men, or most of them, they m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?Girl, help. The boys don't know what logic is... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?So you're a coward, but you don't wanna look like a coward (since you're complaining that other ppl are cowards, and that would make you a raging hypocrite)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?It's just logic, bro. It's immoral for her to post a pic that might turn a guy on. Any pic might turn a guy on. Therefore, it's immoral to post a pic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?You don't get "out." Either the person with the best chances steps forward, or the person with the worst chances steps forward. You have to choose. What kind of friend are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 11:04 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?it invites a certain kind of attention The idea that just being in a place, wearing clothes, or participating in a cultural activity (like dancing or posting), are invitations is an excuse men use to avoid taking responsibility for their own choices. what about a man going to a strip club when in a relationship Is that what she's doing? Going to the alcohol and sexual services store, to purchase alcohol and sexual services? Or, is she going to an alcohol and dancefloor store to purchase alcohol … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 10:36 PM |
| -1 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?I don't have to worry about being "nice" or "respectful" when joking around with my male friends. Why not? Don't you like your friends? Don't you wanna avoid upsetting them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 06:09 PM |
| 0 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?You're on a walk in the woods with a guy friend. Bigfoot appears. You check the wildlife brochure you got from a park ranger. It says that the best course of action is stepping forward and waving your arms. There's a 50% chance that will scare it off. And a 50% chance it'll at least take a swipe. It also says that Bigfoot is more likely to attack hikers who wear red. You're wearing purple. Your friend is wearing red. It also says that a Bigfoot attack is more likely to cause significant injury i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 06:07 PM |
| -4 | Why do they say that there are no benefits in a man having a woman as a friend?has my back Gotta ask, what does that mean? Do you need your friends to lie for you? Hide bodies? Testify at trials? Show up to bar fights? Agree with you on everything? I don't get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 05:29 PM |
| 1 | People want for relationships is strongly tied to what they have been taught and cultureIf you feel like you’re having to put up with them, then they aren’t the right person. I gotta disagree... Ppl have to put up with their kids a lot, and I don't think that means they're not a good family together. The trick is being able to balance. Compatibility makes it possible. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Handsome and Socially intelligent dude tries for 6 months in dating apps and failing miserably, shows that as a man if you want playtime, you must make dating your everything to get anything in the dating marketOk, so he's not ready for a relationship. I giggled, ngl. He used one app, which he acknowledged is prone to shadow banning and bots. Two other apps for a little while, which he stated are also glitchy. He checked 2-3x a day, then just twice. He used all professional pics, which looks like a catfish to me. Js. He did have matches "every day or every other day" after the first week. He did have conversations. None of them clicked enough to lead to a date. (Potential contributing factor - he state… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?Can you think of a place where men can only go if they leave their bodies at home or convincingly hide them? A cultural activity that men cannot do, just bc they're inside of their bodies? Before you answer, there's a caveat. If anything happens, regardless of whether they're "doing it right" or not, it has to be solely their fault. Whoever does the thing bears no responsibility. Just the man who was silly enough to live normally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 04:34 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?Welp, women can't post now, bc there's always a man who'll be into whatever, and it's immoral to be attractive in any way. Next stop: no taking pictures at all, bc they could be shown to a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 04:11 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why do women get so much more leeway in terms of being insecure/jealous in dating/ relationships?I understand thats the feminist rhetoric It's basic ethics. And a good example of how men keep things the way they are and claim to have clean hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 04:04 PM |
| 6 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesI don't click bizarre links. But we do have fun data indicating that both men and women rate themselves as avg, above and below at comparable rates, with most falling into the avg range. Anyway, you're missing the ultimate point. If zero men can meet my completely unrealistic criteria (respect, kindness, compatibility), that's fine. I'm good without. Maybe if more men had that bit of independence, they wouldn't want women to settle for them anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesUgly women need low standards, and women are uglier than they think... aka, you need low standards, ladies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 06:24 PM |
| 5 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesMissing the meat of it... The fact that you're still pushing for women to have low standards. Just with the extra, "bc you're ugly, too." Without recognizing that women don't have to settle in the way men choose to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 04:48 PM |
| 12 | Men don't ask women to have low standards, they ask women to have realistic onesYour argument ultimately is that women need to go for unattractive men... It's just dressed up in the justification that those women are, themselves, unattractive, and just don't know it. Given that most men and women rate themselves as avg, and the number who rate themselves as above avg is equivalent... Doesn't seem like "a 5 woman thinks she is a 10" is the epidemic you present it to be. this frankestein's monster of a man that doesn't exist. Ngl, I laughed. Men build impossible women in thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.The phenomenon is universal. Humans are born this way. The biases that play into it are learned. If I'm looking for a grilling recipe, I want it from a man. Desserts? Show me his wife's recipe. It's completely illogical. There's no ancestral cheeseburger knowledge passed down via manhood. Women aren't inherently better at making a pie crust. I don't consciously do it. But I know that I do, bc I can see my search history. No one is immune to bias. We just recognize it, work with it, and keep it i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Nope. I said that men and boys are more likely to take a message seriously when it comes from other men and boys, as opposed to when it comes from women and girls. It's a form of perceived source credibility. That's the thing where we're subconsciously more likely to believe someone who "looks the part." In the case of gender, men "look the part" of a competent source to other men in most contexts. Studied psychological phenomena. Don't believe me? Ask a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives."Incompetent" now means "not solely responsible for raising a child"? How many definitions did you change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives."Equally" now means "solely." Did you run that past anyone, or just change the definition in your own copy of the dictionary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:42 PM |
| 23 | Why do women so drastically change their mind about marriage?Why do so many men want kids, and then change their minds after the work starts? Why are young men so desperate for a woman, while older men are much happier single? Why do so many men get married just to cheat? We're all dumber when we're younger. The closer we are to puberty, the more our life choices are based on our childhood socialization. The longer we live as adults, the more our life choices are based on our lived experience. Those things are very different. Terrible example, btw. 2 yrs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:40 PM |
| – | Most women don't consider themselves average, and that's a problemMen are the experts on men. Men are also the experts on women. Men are actually the experts on everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:20 PM |
| – | Most women don't consider themselves average, and that's a problemAt home, a man can work all day Can men pls get over themselves when it comes to having a job? It's like bragging that you can be brave with a tummy ache. You and everybody else, champ. We all have jobs. It hasn't been impressive for decades now. (I am not saying work is never stressful. But it's normal. If you're both avg, you're both working, and it's prob gonna stay that way forever. It's not something to hang your hat on.) Or they list a plethora of things that are ethereal/ Not really a big… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Observing signs of neglect isn't offensive. No one in their right mind is jealous of neglect, no matter what it looks like. If anyone's mad, it's not me. Might check in with the guys who went straight to, "how dare you," without thinking it thru... It's not a logical thought process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives."A lot of women flinch when a man raises his voice bc they were abused as children." Oh, no! I just declared that all women are abused as children. Set up the pillory. your view of how the opposite gender was raised Do you think girls don't notice how their brothers are being raised? Cousins? Friends' brothers? Neighbors? It's not like ppl are segregated. Most girls live with brothers. Those who don't are still exposed to boys' upbringing. Do you think that, if you watched a kid grow up hungry, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Are you under the impression that "so many guys" is the same as "all men," or that every man exhibits the dysfunctional behavior being described? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.But from where I sit, "here sweetie, you're so special and amazing, I'll do your laundry for you and fold your towels and fluff your pillows and scream at the principal to change your grade for the better" is coddling through overattention It's not the amount of attention. It takes a ton of time and effort to teach a kid emotional intelligence. If someone wants to bypass that part of parenting, they could beat the kid, lock them up, or shove ice cream at them. They're all just ways to get thru t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Nobody has said that only boys are coddled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.assuming my childhood based on my gender Nobody's done that. Try reading what's written, and not what you expect to see? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/26 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Coddling is neglect. Failing to provide accountability for utilizing life skills is harmful, just like failing to provide stability or emotional support. The kid doesn't develop in the way they deserve to be able to develop, and has to "fix" their parents' failure as an adult. Very few things are completely segregated. They are, however, very different between demographics. And staying specific matters. Girls are not coddled in the same way, and it has vastly different effects. It's a whole othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.assuming the worst about men Noticing signs of neglect isn't "assuming the worst" of the victim. If that were true, we could never call CPS, bc it would be insulting to the kids involved. assuming that you know what their situation is When I say, "men who are dysfunctional bc of neglect," that's the group I'm talking about. It's only logical for you to take that personally if that's you. But, again, it's not a bad thing to have been neglected. So taking it personally wouldn't make much sense eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I'll be honest, I assumed you're just one guy. If you're the whole group, then I guess the discussion is actually about you, and it's appropriate to take it personally to some degree. Is that the case? Are you all men, or the subset of men who experienced childhood neglect? Do you think neglect makes a person less valuable? That their experience is something they did wrong, or should be ashamed of? I could see you being offended at the idea of recognizing the signs if you do. But ftr, I believe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.being disappointed when that doesn't work out If he's a good person who's nice to be around, and that's the goal, then it did work out. That's success. The fact that he doesn't believe he's successful means there is an expectation of something else. It doesn't have to be conscious for it to be there. romantically repulsive but for whatever reason he is Not being chosen is not the same as being romantically repulsive. Singleness is the default. It's baseline. Sure, we like extras, but there's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Projection. Why do you think men are bad and defective? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.'I will do X because Y likes X, and it will be good to make Y happy' And it does. Ppl like good ppl. but then Y instead dates someone who does the total opposite. That's the transaction part. If it's just about making Y happy, then it's fine if Y dates someone else. Dating isn't expected. It isn't connected to the behavior. If there's no expectation that good gets good and bad gets bad, then there's no disconnect if a bad guy gets dates. Doesn't matter. The reason why it doesn't sit right is bc … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Maybe it's cope Nothing inherently wrong with coping. It's just dealing with emotion, after all. I do think it's useful to have a level of zen with the things outside of our control. It feels better in the short-term to think that we're all immortal in some way, bc death is unfair and it sucks, but there's a trap in it. Any evidence to the contrary becomes a threat, and we easily fall into unhealthy patterns, just trying to keep our worldview. "I will die, and that's ok," is a sustainable peace.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.obvious resentment You got me. I resent ppl who were neglected. I'm also jealous of their neglect. I sure wish I were more dysfunctional. But also I'm angry with them, and you can tell bc I said they're struggling. It's all code that men know. By osmosis, obv. Idk if you neglected a child and feel guilty, or you were neglected and don't like the idea that someone might be able to tell, or what... but your defensiveness is both misplaced and disproportionate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:43 PM |
| 0 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.The point is that it's specifically emphasised as the kind of thing that girls like, and will make girls happy, to the boys that actually want to make girls happy. It makes most, if not all, ppl happy to be around good ppl. I feel like we learn that pretty early. consistently dating You don't have to date consistently to have dated. That's not the same goalpost. boys being told that girls like someone who is kind, gentle, caring, respectful. Girls do like good ppl. Ppl, overall, like good ppl. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I think that most people are compatible with a lot of people Gotta disagree. The chances that someone matches me in terms of life stage, values/morals, lifestyle, goals, interests, politics, religion/philosophy, sexual and romantic needs, gender expectations, family type and kids, etc, is low. Just my pets eliminate 60% of men. Most ppl are incompatible with most ppl. There are too many factors, and too much individual variability. That's not a bad thing. It's just circumstance. I feel like I sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.boys are somehow coddled in an exclusively intense way The discussion is that boys have been coddled, and have become men who are dysfunctional as a result of that neglect. "But girls..." takes away the specificity. One topic at a time. The notion that men are just adult children I'm sorry, but that's kinda funny in context. The ultimate conclusion is that men are not children, which is why their experiences in childhood are not an excuse for adult dysfunction, only an explanation. you, as in wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I think people feel accused. I agree that defensiveness is an issue, esp around here. I think that there is someone out there for everyone I believe that it's likely for there to be a compatible person somewhere... But the implication isn't just that they exist, but that they'll be found, and interested, and it'll work out. So many circumstances have to line up that it's impossible to make any assumptions about that. (Adults just want their kids to be hopeful, and it's harder to teach hope along… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:27 PM |
| – | You can either blame slut-shaming or not.Dgmw, I'm with the "not the same person" crowd. However... Can a man who's never been into binge drinking decide to do it after his dog died, and say he doesn't gaf if he's judged for that day? Can a man who usually treats women disrespectfully decide to treat a woman with more respect when he wants a relationship with her? Can a man with 100 reasons to not try heroin include, "ppl will think I'm a loser," in that list without it being a gigantic concern? Can a man be unconcerned with whether so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Some do. Mine didn't. And I'm sure some go the other direction. Neglect comes in many forms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.as if i dont know that. And then you go on to condemn yourself and blame women... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 05:31 PM |
| 0 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I did think that if I was good, constantly, all the time, even when no one is watching, someone would see the effort and see what I've made of myself and we'd start dating That's the just world fallacy. A transaction with the universe in which you do good, and you get good bc of it. It's still entitlement, in that there's still the expectation of return. The actual reward for being a good person is having a clean conscience and self-respect. Adults absolutely should have taught that. "What? You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 05:30 PM |
| 0 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.men and fathers absolutely play a role You only said that women are to blame... coddling boys is some constant part of their upbringing It's an extremely common form of neglect, and one that's among the most socially acceptable. If you look for the trappings of it, you'll see them. "Boys are easier to raise..." "Boys will be boys..." Even circumcision plays a role. only identifying forms of coddling that look familiar to you in men The subject of the discussion is childhood coddling manifesting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 05:02 PM |
| 5 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I am locking myself into this It's a choice that you're making, and are responsible for. Nobody else. Just you. I hope you become a better parent to yourself. Unfortunately, that's entirely up to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:31 PM |
| 5 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.plummet their motivation to actually do good Only if a parent says, "life's unfair," and then never says anything else about it. Which is just as neglectful as letting them think life is fair. It's a parent's job to make sure their kids understand not just the truth of it, but how to handle it and what it means. There’s no guarantee that your effort will amount to anything, but you should totally waste your time. It's not wasted. That's part of the lesson. I despise the typical "participation tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:23 PM |
| 5 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.the story you are telling yourself almost never happens Neglect of boys is rampant, and coddling is one form it takes. the responsibility of parents and elders to properly socialize kids We're never done being socialized. All that changes at 18 is that we become our own guardians. The responsibility for our development is passed from our parents to ourselves. A man is an adult. The person failing him is him. blaming mom Where's dad? He's equally responsible. Arguably more so, bc boys/men are mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 04:09 PM |
| 0 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.maintaining hope and optimism That's not the opposite of realism. You know that, right? They go together. That's how functioning adults... function. You may be thinking of toxic positivity - just as bad as toxic negativity. Switching from one poison to another is guaranteed misery. I hope you do better by yourself in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 03:48 PM |
| 7 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I mean, it's part of English class, bc you can't use logical fallacies in writing. But it really should start with toddlers. "Just bc you're nice to Sam doesn't mean they have to be your friend." Learning it means coming to terms with it. Being upset when a good person is hurt or a bad person is protected is fine. Being controlled by those emotions, unhealthy obsessing over the unfairness of it, or giving up? Not fine. The world is unfair, so we work to make it as fair as we can, and make peace … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.they should do all of the above, but also should be a nice person (to the girls and everyone else), that they should be kind and helpful and patient, not be a bully, not be a creep, be a 'gentleman' but also treat girls as just people That's just being a good person. Baseline Human 101. Everyone needs to do it to the best of their ability, no matter what. I don't understand why boys would see it as extra, optional, or transactional. Unless they're being raised in a low-expectation, high-praise e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.I'm not sure what the point actually is here. Most men have never experienced anything like womanhood. It's entirely foreign. For some men, empathy comes more easily. For others, it only develops after being faced with a similar experience in a hypothetical. they've always been very respectful The way men treat one another with respect regardless of how they treat women is a hurdle for some. I often find myself moving into the realm of, "you're in an extremely poorly run prison where violence is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:57 PM |
| 3 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Coddling is a form of neglect. Too many parents chose the route of low expectations, high praise, excuses, ignoring dysfunction, and parentifying girls. Actually teaching kids how to handle life is hard. Cooing and offering ice cream is easy. And neglect of boys is incredibly normalized. Making it work depends on those girls growing up to be women who would take on the role of permissive parent. Fewer and fewer women are accepting that role, which leaves more men facing realities they are not pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Being coddled as boys has done the most damage to men’s social lives.Unfortunately, it may be the only context in which some men can fathom the reality of "validation" from a woman's perspective. The men who struggle with that imagine an idealized, nonexistent version of what they see, and become jealous of that idealized nonexistent version. If being knowledgeable and accurate is more important than having an excuse to complain, educational hypotheticals can be necessary. (Being able to tell the difference between someone illustrating a point and someone genuine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 02:14 PM |
| 3 | how interest are you about what men like?Nope. I'm not looking for "men." I'm looking for a compatible partner. Best way to find that is to be the best version of myself. And I'm peaceful as things are, so it's not an emergency if that person doesn't happen my way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 11:36 AM |
| 3 | Having increasingly high "standards" doesn’t make you more discerning, nor does it guarantee better relationshipsLots of space between "perfect in every single way" and "close enough, I hope..." Being better than the last act on stage doesn't mean the band is good. Only that it's better than that one other act. Being the best act of the night only means being the best out of a handful. (As with music, "best" just means most aligned to one person's needs/wants. It's not objective in the first place. There's way more value in finding the right audience than in trying to get a different audience to appreciate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 05:44 PM |
| 11 | Having increasingly high "standards" doesn’t make you more discerning, nor does it guarantee better relationshipsRelative valuation, my guy. Being the best partner someone's had doesn't make you the best partner for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 12:56 PM |
| 7 | Having increasingly high "standards" doesn’t make you more discerning, nor does it guarantee better relationshipsThe idea of "building compatibility" being pushed so hard gives chameleon. We see it way too often. The idea that most men could be an ideal partner for most women bc they can change. But all that says is that those men are weak in convictions, have nothing figured out for themselves, and are interchangeable. That's not a good thing. It doesn't just make them boring and easily replaceable. It's a red flag for codependency and long-term relationship issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 12:51 PM |
| 12 | Having increasingly high "standards" doesn’t make you more discerning, nor does it guarantee better relationshipsMy cooking is the best you've ever had, if you've only eaten grass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 12:38 PM |
| 0 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.THAT's the problem with the argument, not that they can't share the spotlight. It's not, "is it ok or not?" If you're talking about the way circumcision intersects with the neglect of boys in the developed world, and I say, "yeah, but FGM is also really bad," you have two options. You can say, "That's another conversation. We're talking about male circumcision rn." Or, you can change the subject to FGM, abandoning the very valid discussion you were trying to have. Bc any connection between FGM a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.False rape accusations were the number 1 reason lynchings went down in the Jim Crow South Don't see where I said it wasn't. Can you quote me? regular rape laws applied instead The fact that you think this happened is so cute. Every state used to have a marriage exception written into its rape laws. In '74, Michigan and Delaware made an alteration that allowed prosecution if they were divorced. In '76, Nebraska removed theirs altogether. The last to make the edit was North Carolina in '93. In Ill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.high rates of false accusations of sexual assault. Same rate as false reports for other crimes. But don't worry, they brought some MRAs in to help establish federal dept of education guidelines a while back, and they had a great idea. If someone reports being assaulted, the school can't do anything to keep them separated. That fixes the "too many women" issue. All you have to do is assault her, then insist on sitting right next to her in as many classes as possible, until she has a breakdown and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Men have male condoms, abstinence, and vasectomies; women have female condoms, abstinence, and tubal ligation, and then women have a half dozen tiebreakers, such as the pill that many already take for cycles We've developed a pill for him. Know why we don't use it? It has to show medical benefit over risk in order to be approved. For her, that's the benefit of not being pregnant over the risk of side effects. For him, it's the benefit of nothing - bc he has no risk of pregnancy - with the risk o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.class it under child neglect laws Going straight from "come on, pay it," to prison time and potentially a felony record that will permanently alter his ability to work and maybe take away his right to vote? call it a draw Nope. Itemized. Most men don't have an accurate idea of how much it actually costs to raise a kid. Which is why so many think they're paying way too much, when they're actually falling well short of half. luxuries Like food, clothes, school supplies, childcare, copays (child su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.I'm tired of people being unwilling to make two clicks Not accepting a YT video as a source isn't groundbreaking. I hope you don't click on every link you're given. Internet safety first. -"Misrepresentation of Gender Bias in the 1989 Report of the Gender Bias, Committee of the Massachusetts, Supreme Judicial Court" Should've just said that. Jeez, that sure is a date. default shared parenting or 50/50 presumption custody laws Guessing you didn't notice that the concern is keeping abusive parents… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 09:53 PM |
| 5 | Our male ancestors would laugh at the complaints of modern menDepending on your favorite studies, up to 75% of women and 74% of men would rather be unloved than disrespected. It's not just men. It's humans. The fallacy I see is thinking it's one or the other. Either love, or respect. But a healthy relationship has both. And, let's face it, the narrative that men don't need love, or are somehow insulted by it, has seriously disadvantaged men. The misguided obsession with sex and obedience. The frustration with relationships of all types, never feeling fulfi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Women Love Objectification, When It Benefits ThemImagine being called "fresh meat" and "babygirl" by a group of men 8+" taller with builds you can only dream of, on your first day in prison. You got attention! Don't tell me that not being able to turn it off is a problem. So what if accepting it is likely to be taken as consent, and rejecting it risks violence? Grow up. You get influence and leverage! Totally worth the way you're gonna have to "pay" for everything you get, even if you didn't ask for it. Just don't be stuck-up. You get validati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:48 PM |
| 52 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testthose feelings will die down eventually Once feelings die down, they don't even remember why they were hurt. I have no idea where the divorce came from. I figured I could just ignore everything she says, feels, needs and wants, and nothing would ever happen. Who could predict that treating her like furniture wouldn't be her dream?? Nice misandry in there, btw. Be the man-hater you complain about, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:43 PM |
| 11 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testI'm guessing no. They're fantasizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:37 PM |
| 7 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testnot question you and always agree with your bs. Smells the same as, "you just don't like it when ppl disagree," but the "disagreement" is something like denying a child medical care or racism. Making it seem as small and meaningless as possible, despite being indicative of a difference in basic values and ethics, is disingenuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:36 PM |
| 7 | No woman who is not already thinking about divorce will actually gonna divorce you for getting a paternity testThey're the entirety of the NB umbrella? Wow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 12:31 PM |
| 3 | How do you explain the "Dark Romance" Boom?Dude, it's fiction. The point of fiction is to explore hyperbole, metaphor, and emotion, in a way that's safe and can be stopped at any time. That's the appeal. It's bizarre how dedicated some of y'all are to taking it literally. How much sense would it make to hold up the popularity of war movies as evidence that men wanna be drafted and die? Or the popularity of step- porn as evidence that men literally wanna bang their relatives? That would be dumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 07:59 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.A man goes into the store looking for chocolate. The store clerk points toward an aisle. The guy doesn't think any of that chocolate will be any good. It's not the right kind. He leaves and says they don't have any. A woman goes into another store, looking for chocolate. The store clerk points toward an aisle. She also doesn't think any of the chocolate will be any good. It's not the right kind. She leaves and says they don't have any. The guy gets mad and says, "You can't say that! The shelves … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 07:35 PM |
| 0 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.If women get to be discerning, then a woman with no viable options has no options, just like a man with no viable options has no options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 07:16 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.People disagreeing on what helps society regardless of stats is insanely common. And disingenuous. Nobody actually believes the earth is flat. You know that, right? They are choosing to latch onto a form of "secret knowledge" bc the logical fallacy provides relief from emotions they haven't processed. That's not the same as believing that it's literally true. Due process is caring about the law, not the person, in big part because of the fear of being wrong. If you do not care about that person,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 06:19 PM |
| 0 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.There are, many many people, exclusively men, who really do not have options. Are they approaching every single woman? If not, they're leaving options on the table. Not just homeless women. There's the elderly. Disabled. Thrice-divorced drunks at dive bars. Churches and funerals are great places to mingle. Chill with dealers. Surf the arrest pages. Meet some migrant farm workers. If a man is "allowed" to look at those women - any of them - and claim that they aren't options without trying... the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 06:09 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.But men can be? Nope. Feminism is diametrically opposed to any kind of supremacy. I really need to add fathers' rights Somewhere other than someone's YT video and a column, I suppose. I'm not ruining my algorithm, I get too much "lobotomize women" junk as it is. as an ancarcho capitalist Flying Spaghetti Monster, take me now. voting is actually not a human right I appreciate if you don't think it should be. But it is. It's article 21. not being literally made into state property is. Yep, that's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Don't forget that they have to also be dismissing every potential solution and claiming no one cares. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 01:27 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Not saying it is the best solution, just what they believe to be. It is impossible for a person to believe that making a problem worse is a way to fix it, let alone the best way. Absolutely not possible. A person saying that is lying. just because someone doesn't care about her specifically (due to her actions and who she is as a person) wouldn't mean they don't care about women in general right If a person only cares about a handful of individuals, they don't care about the demographic. A perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 01:27 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Would love to see links to women doing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 12:54 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.this is what they see as best for criminals It's objectively not. It's worse for offenders, victims and society. That's why it's illogical to keep doing it. Like just because you care about women doesn't mean if you have to care that some woman who is a nazi that hurts others gets punched right? Caring about her isn't condoning her behavior. If that were the case, parents would stop caring about their kids as soon as they started acting up. Especially if you somehow benefit from it? I have zero … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/26 12:28 AM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.you would have a point if they cared about female prisoners but not the men They don't care about either. Huge overlap between the "men are livestock" crowd and the "women are livestock" crowd. However, incarceration is a "men-dominated field." There are 12x more men than women in the prison system. If they only cared about men, helping a handful of women would be an acceptable aside, and reform would be desired. (Even most women who lean toward the "man-hating" side push for reform to help wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 11:48 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.Are they asking homeless women? (Y'all really are not getting it.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 11:01 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.It really is. I try to think of it like bad weather. I'm not causing it, so I can't change it. And he's not doing it at me, I just happen to be here. SMART has been really helpful for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 11:00 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.not caring for a specific group of people (or at least caring less than for the rest of society) as the same as not caring about an entire sex When the group is gendered, gender is absolutely a factor. If I said I totally care about men, but not dads, I would hope you'd call me out. The groups aren't a full circle, but the overlap is enormous. If I'm not sure whether I care about a man until I see his medical history, I don't care about men. they care about themselves a lot more. They don't care… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 10:58 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Whining - the broad, overarching behavior - is all over. What's being discussed here is a specific scenario. An adult who showcases their issues and then falls into a pattern of whining for help, dismissing every possible solution with an excuse, claiming nobody wants to help, and continuing to whine. Gendered behavior isn't all-and-nothing. Obv if you look, you'll find women engaging in it. But we def see it predominantly among men, wrt dating, health, mental health, loneliness, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 10:11 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.getting regular SSRIs refills alone would cost me hundreds of dollars I feel you on healthcare costs. About 60% of my monthly income goes toward my healthcare. Def something we all should be fighting toward resolving. I only see him occasionally and can't control what he does with his life I'm glad you've arrived at that point. I've been very close to an alcoholic for many yrs. It's hard not to imagine that, if you just did the right thing, it would improve. Releasing that undue responsibility i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 10:06 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.There's nothing complex about hurting someone for personal gain. The only issue here is that one of us thinks someone can care about a person while hurting them for personal gain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 10:00 PM |
| 3 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.The "answer" is that women are not lesser. That's the concrete basis. It's the essence of everything. giving the mother majority custody in tender years vs giving 50% Not the case. Closest we have now (in the US and UK) is that some court employees admit to having a personal ideal that very young children shouldn't be separated from their mothers if it can be avoided... that doesn't correlate to the way cases actually play out. (Ppl can have opinions and still make neutral decisions.) Men in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 09:58 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.To showcase the hypocrisy of basing "options" on discernment for one group, and on brute numbers without discernment for another. If he has 5 receptive ppl, but he eliminates all of them, he has no options. If she has 5 receptive ppl, but eliminates all of them, she has 5 options still, bc she technically could be with one of them. Therefore, she's spoiled and he's picked on, despite being in the same situation. But men frequently argue that they haven't eliminated anyone. Using homeless women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:28 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.see how people react I don't think that's a strong measure. Anyone can lie, even unintentionally when it comes to body language. Nobody protests or donates or volunteers on accident. it's more likely due to a difference in logic than caring. There's no logical reason to do something that doesn't work and causes more issues. The only reason to push against reform is to reap some kind of benefit from the dysfunction. Sometimes we could harm someone we don't care about, to get a benefit. But we don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:14 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.Idk if you're missing that I'm not literally advocating for men to go test pickup lines on homeless women... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:57 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Feminism itself is not any of that. Criticizing the way some feminists have approached social reform and being against feminism are not the same thing. Every feminist has criticism of other feminists in some way. Like disagreeing with the way an anti-racist policy was implemented and saying that makes you a racist. Bro. No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:56 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.It doesn't matter if it's ideal for them or not. Literally the only thing they have to do to be an option is to be receptive. Survival sex is extremely high among homeless women. Just bc some say no doesn't mean all must say no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.men tend to focus on punishment and women more on reformation That's not inherent. Women reject purely punitive models bc they don't work. They see the data and make the logical deduction that we shouldn't hurt men just to feel good about hurting them. Men who support those models have the same data. They also know that it doesn't fix anything and increases recidivism. They are weighing the value of men (as both offenders and victims) and finding it too low to justify giving up their emotional h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:47 PM |
| 3 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.men heal through action better than therapy Therapy is not passive. change therapists a few times until they find a good one We all do. Those men are not quitting. They're persisting. most therapists follow a feminist bias Yes, most therapists believe that women are not inferior. The idea that that would be a problem is baffling. "Here to find out how to be a better person, but also, if you ascribe to this standard pillar of ethics, I'm out." Sir... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:31 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.The data would disagree that there isn't a difference between the way men and women are handling their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:26 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.And that they need to screen out bad therapists and try to find a good one, please I can empathize. I struck gold on my 30th try. Fixing our lives isn't for the weak. lol I actually would disagree Coping mechanisms, self-talk regulation, processing exercises, meditation, mindfulness, goal-setting, reframing, various forms of expression (art, etc), trigger management, EMDR setups, physiological techniques, self-care... all online. I don't recommend anyone use exposure therapy without supervision,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:25 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Many benefit men more than women. The oft-lamented fact that men make up the bulk of the workforce in dangerous industries is logically addressed by increasing safety regulation, improving PPE, etc. (Bc we can't force single men to get safe jobs, that would violate their autonomy.) But men are much more likely to push against those improvements than to support them, while women trend the other direction. For all of those men working in those fields, who deserve the best working conditions possib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 06:11 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Seems like you've circled back around to the OP. Men are measurably less likely to work toward solutions in their lives. And regular ppl don't pretend to be hurt to get attention. That's kid behavior. So we can surmise that the largest proportion of ppl whining without doing anything are men... and that men likely make up a substantial number of ppl limping for aura. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:55 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.What's the benefit to lying? Some of that invisible man clout that OP referenced? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:44 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.What I'm hearing is that men don't experience the issues you laid out as often, and women are still doing better. Kinda like one family having 1 person on dialysis and struggling to get anything done, and another having 4 ppl on dialysis and making it work. Why, exactly, is the second family the one in trouble? Maybe the first one should watch and learn? we are talking about loners You mean ppl who lack social skills. So... get some? I mean, working toward it beats sitting around whining that it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 05:43 PM |
| 3 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.So why is laziness an explanation here? Why do men quit? Bc it's uncomfortable and it takes time. That's the explanation, straight from the horse's mouth. They choose not to continue bc it's uncomfortable and it takes time. Those factors are inherent. They aren't things that can be removed. They aren't kept secret. They don't only apply to men, and not women. Why would a woman push thru the discomfort and put the time in? To get the benefit. She looks at the pros and cons, and prioritizes her we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:57 PM |
| 3 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Most of the tools learned in therapy are online, for free. It takes more personal accountability and is a bit more like flying blind. But it's the same tool set. Doesn't matter if it's found online, in books, in a support group, among friends, etc. All therapy in different packages. I don't recommend foregoing medication when it's needed. There aren't any points for suffering with a biological issue that can be mitigated. I don't really have much choice but to try work around that and encourage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:45 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Are you unaware of the fact that women work harder to make friends, build social networks, and start clubs and groups, in response to loneliness? That women spend more time being choosy about applications (research indicates it's bc they're more realistic about the degree to which they qualify for a given job), giving them a better application:offer ratio, in response to unemployment? That women are far more likely to seek out areas in which their employer can make positive changes, and to push … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:37 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.The fact that so many men report similar experiences in therapy indicates there's some confounding structural factor, and not just all men being lazy and entitled. Sure, if the issues they cited were things like, "therapists refused to treat me bc I'm a man." What's being cited are internal issues. If men were quitting chemo in droves, and they said plainly that they quit bc it was uncomfortable and one dose didn't cure them, would we buy that it's actually bc of a structural issue, and not bc t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 04:20 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.I mean... Statistically, women do make sociopolitical choices that would address men's issues more often than men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 03:52 PM |
| 4 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.The logical course of action when someone has a problem is to get up, investigate the source of the problem, look for ways to address it, pick one, try it (genuinely give it effort), and pick another if that doesn't work. It's extremely illogical to complain that there's a problem, refuse to dig into it, make excuses to not try any of the practical solutions, and just keep complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 03:51 PM |
| 3 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Ppl like to take the stats on men giving up on therapy as an indication that it doesn't work. Except most men quit after one session, and the top reasons cited are that it's uncomfortable and it didn't fix stuff. It's not that it doesn't work. It's that so many men have unrealistic expectations and stop trying when it becomes clear that they won't be met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 03:48 PM |
| 7 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine."passive" solutions like therapy Therapy isn't passive. It's not "talking things out." It's presenting the specific issues to a pro, letting them recommend tools, and putting those tools to work. Kinda like face timing a mechanic while you work on a car. They're not fixing it, bc they can't. But they're giving some guidance so that you can fix it. And then you'll be prepared to fix it next time, too. That's not passive at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 03:45 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Oh, I'm sure that every man who says he can't possibly practice self-care is def actually doing that. He's just insisting that he's incapable bc... uh... for the bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 03:39 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine."These men are whiners," means, "These men are whiners." Not, "All men are whiners." Not, "Only men are whiners." Read what's written, not what you expect. Gossip isn't whining. Like, at all. That's weird to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:46 PM |
| 3 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.That's only true if those women aren't actually doing anything. If I say I feel bad, while I'm working on practicing self-care, I'm putting effort into addressing the issue. If I say I feel bad, then give a list of excuses for why I'm incapable of practicing self-care (or anything else), or why self-care works for everyone but me (and I know that magically), I'm not putting effort into addressing the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:44 PM |
| 7 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.what does that look like Providing practical suggestions to improve things. "Look into therapy," is exactly what they're looking for, if that's the case. it usually does mean doing it alone Why? Are they asking for someone to walk with them? therapy is marketed to men as quick fix Idk where you've gotten that. I have never seen a person represent it as a quick fix. There is no quick fix. That doesn't exist. its not men having too high expectation If the complaint is, "it's uncomfortable and it d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:39 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.I have trouble understanding what you mean by the homeless people argument. Homeless ppl can be very receptive. If that's all you need - for them to be receptive - there ya go. Options for any man. The way you describe women's options implies that that's how you define options for them. Bad options are still options. By that definition, a homeless woman is an option, and therefore no man is without options. The way you describe your own options - bringing compatibility into the equation - implie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:18 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.it individual based Everything is. Why would the solutions to men's issues be the only kind that are universal? people doing therapy be better at addressing men That's infantilizing. Men do not need, "here comes the airplane!" The reason men quit therapy after one session is bc it's uncomfortable, and that introduction didn't fix things. That's how therapy works. It's uncomfortable, and one session doesn't fix things. (Sessions themselves don't fix things. Utilizing the tools you learn during se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:14 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.What problems are solved online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:06 PM |
| -1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.I would date the ugly girl if I got to know her and we matched ideals and personality. That's already being pickier than women are "allowed" to be. Matched ideals and personality? Crazy high standards. If an option is a person who's receptive - usually the definition being used - then there are options anywhere there are homeless ppl. If an option is a person who's receptive and compatible enough to justify the effort, then everyone has an extremely limited number of options. Can't use one defin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 02:05 PM |
| 0 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.it will lead to solutions or sympathy It does. I think many men just don't know what that looks like. in the end people will hold them responsible to solve their problems That's true of everyone. Doesn't mean doing it alone, but it does mean that no one will do it for them. That's impossible. why therapy isn't as effective for men It isn't ineffective for men. Men do not try. When they do manage to get into an office, they overwhelmingly quit after the introductory session. The top reasons cited… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 01:59 PM |
| 4 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Weird, bc women are proactive overall. What issues do you think women have, are in control of, and are doing nothing to address? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 01:39 PM |
| 1 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.they are addressing the issue based on how they know to Making excuses about how every practical approach can't possibly work, and then continuing to loudly whine? That's the best they can do? That's all we should expect of adults? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 01:37 PM |
| 2 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.You'd be right, if I were also loudly wallowing in my problems while doing nothing to improve my life... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 01:35 PM |
| 1 | “Just be happy single” is easy advice when singledom is optional.And if it’s not the life you want, that’s a BIG problem. Very, very few ppl have the life they wanted or expected. We grieve and move forward. There's no other choice. people giving that advice are usually single as a temporary state, giving the advice to people who are stuck in it It's impossible to claim that it's not a temporary state, esp under 30. If you're 25, you've lived 10% of your adult life. That's a tiny sliver. If the internet company says they'll be there between 8am and 6pm, are y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 01:34 PM |
| 7 | When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine.Can't disagree. Too many men don't actually want anything to change. They just want everyone to know how bad they feel. It's why they suddenly go from, "men are problem-solvers by nature," to, "here are our excuses to justify never trying." Like caricatures of the worst types of women they imagine they're surrounded by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.any criticism of feminism If you think that attacking protections under the law is "criticism," then maybe women should "criticize" men by attacking their protections under the law? Make it so they can't vote... mandatory reproduction... can be denied healthcare if they aren't married... Just criticism. Can you explain to me why it is not a problem if men dont want to attend higher education but if women does the same in a specific field its suddenly a problem? No one forces women to go into STE… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 07:48 PM |
| -1 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Thank you! I get why ppl are so averse to letting men find their feet. But it's not doing them any favors. (And, admittedly, it's annoying af. Nobody drew women a map, and men are not dumber, so what are we even talking about?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.anti women == anything that criticizes feminism Anti-women = promoting toxic femininity, reinforcing stereotypes, attacking legal protections, spreading rhetoric that materially harms women bc they're women... Pretending you don't know that is not a flattering look. lets push even more women to higher education, give them more grants, etc. As opposed to taking away women's right to pursue it? Why? So the schools can be empty? Yeah right. Yeah. Right. It is, in fact, legal for men to go to colleg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:36 PM |
| – | Gender relationship are harmed by blank slatismExcellent evaluation. The subjectivity reminds me a bit of the medical pain scale. We get more reliable and useful info when we ask how someone's functioning is affected, rather than how much pain they're experiencing. Being unable to walk up stairs could be reported as a 6 for one person and a 10 for another. It is often said that libido in women is highly contextual I wonder if this is partly bc of role socialization. Is it harder for women to relax when there are problems to solve, bc she's t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.Criticism of feminism is asking questions and having conversations. Not giving money, time and publicity to anti-woman organizations. They're vastly different in nature and in effect. We both know that. Holding ppl accountable for the choices they make is a form of respect. Pls don't downplay the choices of men, bc they're men. It's misandry. Currently, 58 percent of those admitted to higher education are women, while only 42 percent are men. One of those cases where it's important to know what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 10:05 PM |
| -3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Alternative take: Doing the work for men has created dependency, fear, fragility and narcissism. Continuing to do it can only be expected to perpetuate that. There's no version of growth that's easy. Maybe men need that discomfort to break the pattern of learned helplessness. Not to be abandoned, but to be pushed to think up their own solutions to a problem and to apply themselves toward it. An equivalent to refusing to do a kid's homework for them, and to instead only answer genuine questions t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.Yeah, because [...] Bc they don't know the definition of the word and aren't interested in looking it up. (Alternatively, they were raised to believe that they're logical, so they don't realize that their feelings don't dictate reality.) Any man supporting group which is not fully on board with feminism is attacked and discredited as misogynists. Idk if you know this, but... if you support the klan, you will not be seen as anti-racist. Anti-racist ppl cannot stomach supporting racism. That's how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.Oh, did they do a study? I'm only familiar with the one on misogyny. The words do have meanings. They're just facets of sexism - gendered bigotry that includes hatred, contempt, disrespect, othering, and discrimination against individuals solely bc of their gender. Issue is that a large proportion of men have difficulty identifying what is and isn't misandrist. Sure, some women def use the word wrong... but way too many men don't even realize that things like not getting participation trophies i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badPpl didn't used to get along better. If anything, more ppl are avoiding disaster by being more discerning. It's not enough to have a pulse and a nice face, so it takes longer to find the one. In exchange, we don't have the "classic" marriages in which kids didn't know who they married until long after the vows... and were stuck keeping up appearances and fighting for the rest of their lives. Less easy (read: less fast) saying and marriage is not a bad thing. Not entirely unlike lower birth rates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:34 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.The pity party never stops. If it matters to anyone reading, the measured trend is that less conventionally attractive men marry a little later in life, have more "traditional" marriages, and divorce at a lower rate. The prevailing hypothesis of attached researchers is that those men utilize the extra time to gain maturity, life skills and stability. Overall, the later you marry, the less likely you are to divorce, until it evens out at about 45. Current avg age of marriage is 30. The sad bois w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:09 PM |
| 3 | Why are women so interested in fictional romance while being blatantly adverse to most real life romance?I agree. And it seems like, at least most of the time, the appeal is the longevity, purpose, brotherhood, sacrifice, and the interesting details that come together to make an event happen. It's kinda philosophical. Even if they aren't consciously aware of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Why are women so interested in fictional romance while being blatantly adverse to most real life romance?Good to know that you don't understand the point of fiction at all, and not just romance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:17 PM |
| 5 | Why are women so interested in fictional romance while being blatantly adverse to most real life romance?If you can't utilize analogies, ignore the first line and read the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:11 PM |
| 3 | Why are women so interested in fictional romance while being blatantly adverse to most real life romance?I referenced war films bc it's a popular genre among men. If you read the rest, you'd know the ways in which they're parallel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:06 PM |
| 9 | Why are women so interested in fictional romance while being blatantly adverse to most real life romance?Same reason men like war movies without trying to go to war. Exploring something thru fiction is safe. It doesn't have the irl complexity and downsides. The characters are idealized, even when they're imperfect. The events are controlled. It can be stopped at any time. The real thing isn't like that at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminists could do well, if they develop humilitymisandristic and man hating rhetoric I don't think the avg man knows what those things are. Just bc Todd said that quoting violence stats is misandry doesn't mean it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:18 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badA relationship in which you live with a person is actually far easier to maintain, since you often interact naturally. I disagree. It's much easier to resent and lose respect for someone when you're always together, there are no significant barriers, and every choice they make directly affects you. Just being in physical proximity doesn't mean there's genuine effort or harmony. It's not unlike having kids, in that it's rewarding and it's a full-time job that can wear the most resilient person do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 04:04 PM |
| -2 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.Aother ChatGPT bot like response. The curse of an English major. So basically TLDR is get therapy to prepare you In the nicest of ways... Duh. Almost nothing is within our control, and there's no just world. Nobody's life turns out like they want. The only difference is whether they lie down and rot about it, or choose to live. Frankly, if someone can't bring themselves to choose to live, what do they expect? therapy will NOT help you with dating It'll help you make the most of an opportunity. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.why is the male suicide rate so high despite male participation in mental health services being greater than ever before? Method choice and others' awareness on an individual level. Women are more concerned with leaving an intact body. As little mess as possible, as little trauma as possible for whoever finds them, and the opportunity for family to have an open casket. The methods that do the least outward damage are the least effective. They have more failure points and take longer. Since women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.Anti-intellectualism is real. The more qualified a person is, the more some ppl think they're unqualified. The best source of info is, of course, someone who doesn't know anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:45 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.Therapy doesn't spawn genuine opportunities with compatible ppl. Nothing does. There is no magic spell to cast. No cheat code. No way to load the dice. It's 99% circumstance. This isn't a secret that we keep from men. We say it pretty consistently in various forms. (Mom might be an exception. Moms don't wanna hurt their baby's feelings, so they say things like, "the right one will come along," despite the fact that it's a promise she can't guarantee.) What therapy does is help a person have an a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 7 | If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids?Between that and the narcissistic self-centering... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:24 PM |
| 3 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.if you date mostly misogynist its your fault Around 80% of men in developed countries hold misogynistic views. "Choose better" means the worst men are left behind until they improve. And then they show up here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/Womans advice makes far more sense if you imply 1 point.If a man wants to get a date, and that's it, he's free to lie thru his teeth, target damaged or naive women, etc. (Disgusting, but everyone is free to do bad things to a degree.) But if his goal is to actually get anywhere, that's the absolute worst thing to do. Might as well toss $80 in the trash and waste the day doing literally anything else. Esp when it's obv that so many men actually don't enjoy dating at all. A bit like lying to get an interview. Even if they're interested, you're a loser … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 17 | If women are the problem, why do you want them to birth and raise more kids?Bros don't know the difference between a strawman and a position they, personally, don't have. Not everything is addressed specifically to you... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?We can say the exact same thing about cancer treatments, chronic pain management, addiction rehab, etc. The quick, easy, painless solution doesn't exist. We can refuse to try in protest, but all that does is guarantee that it gets worse. It's not a "hold your breath long enough and you'll get what you want" situation. What you want doesn't exist. The cost part is absolutely a legitimate barrier. Mental health issues are a bit like physical therapy in that area. The tools are largely available on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:49 AM |
| 2 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?We don't know nearly as much about the body as the avg person believes. One of those things where, the more you learn, the more you find out that we actually don't know what we "know." Why didn't you reply to the greater point of my response? In fact, if you just said, "aww, I'm so sorry..." I could argue that you're being flippant and disrespectful. It's an issue that can be improved, and should be addressed asap. Giving me common-sense actionable advice indicates that you're taking it seriousl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:09 AM |
| 5 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badI'm not discounting the benefit of feeling cared for. That said, a relationship is continuous work for both partners. It's worth considering whether a different kind of connection would give you benefit without exacting a toll of that depth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 10:39 PM |
| 11 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?Mental health is a part of physical health. The brain is an organ. It's just as serious an issue. I could set my broken leg at home, and it might turn out fine. Doesn't mean no one should encourage me to see someone with the education to get me started, at least. In fact, if you just said, "aww, I'm so sorry..." I could argue that you're being flippant and disrespectful. It's an issue that can be improved, and should be addressed asap. Giving me common-sense actionable advice indicates that you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 10:28 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badAssume they don't get any of it, hold their hand thru one detail and see if that's enough. Good notes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:28 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badHelpful = using psychic powers so someone else doesn't have to think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:26 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badBeing an adult is guessing what someone wants when they ask a general question that they should be able to figure out for themselves in the first place. Makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:23 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badGive the bros the info they want, regardless of what they ask, bc they can't connect 2 dots. Got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:18 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badYeah. The first time. Is there a point to any of this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:15 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badLove a good group chat https://preview.redd.it/1zkpw55xqo8h1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=9cad512b068ea3c704c3d0013b756c3937820272 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 07:14 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badExactly. Good impression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:56 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badWelp, I'm glad you got the answer to the question you should've asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:56 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badSure. Just let me cut off the generator watermark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:52 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badOh, did you want a 1k word list of everything considered to be included in normal adult life? Prob should've asked for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badMen are human beings. They frequently just don't wanna be treated that way. Or can't handle it. Either way, creating all of their own problems so they can whine about how women did it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:51 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badI just asked 17 ppl. Or, "trust me, bro," if you prefer. You said that you've already seen women say that they never fail to detect toxicity. Where's the evidence of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:49 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badYou asked what I meant by struggling with the basics. That's not the same as asking what a typical interaction between adults is like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:47 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badYou asked just now? That doesn't count. You're stacking the evidence. You have to have either heard one, or the other, in the wild, before now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:44 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badAt the risk of having my comment removed... Barf. Guess there's no treating men with basic respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:43 PM |
| 3 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badSure, if that was the question you asked at the begining. You didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badI would love to see them. Where have you seen ppl saying that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:41 PM |
| 16 | Excluding sons, do you have little to no sympathy for men?Info: If I tell you that I broke my leg, and your reply can be boiled down to, "go to the ER," is that evidence that you don't care about me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:40 PM |
| 3 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badTalking with another person with little or no preparation for that specific interaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:38 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badEw. I turn toward deaf ppl when I talk to them, too. Don't feel special. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:38 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badThe density is impressive. Come on, I believe in you... Can you send me proof that you've heard ppl say that they like making out with park benches? If not, can you send me proof that you've heard ppl say that they don't like making out with park benches? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:36 PM |
| 3 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badNot being an adult, as in being of-age. Functioning as an adult. Being exhausted and in pain after a normal interaction with someone else is not functional. Prob not a good idea to throw intense, vulnerable, very frequent interaction onto the pile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:27 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badThe fact that you aren't using a language correctly, presumably because it's not your first language, isn't an insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:22 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badIf you've never seen Bigfoot, and you don't have a bunch of pics of ppl faking sightings, does that mean it's impossible for ppl to fake sightings? This is some, "You like waffles? Then you must hate pancakes!" stereotypically feminine crap. lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:21 PM |
| 3 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badHe lists the symptoms he struggles with. You could always read them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:19 PM |
| 2 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Then our behavior wouldn't change over time and cultures. It does, tho... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:18 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badNot particularly passionate. Just takes more words to say something to someone who doesn't know the definition of the words they're trying to use. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:11 PM |
| 1 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Where do they come from? If they're learned, they aren't biological. If they're biological, there wouldn't be variation between cultures and over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:09 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badNot different, and it's weird to me that you don't know that. "I've never seen a Bigfoot," is a very different statement from, "I've seen a bunch of ppl in gorilla costumes, perpetuating hoaxes." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:09 PM |
| 4 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badReading his comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 06:04 PM |
| 1 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Where are the behavioral patterns from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:55 PM |
| 2 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badIf you've never seen Bigfoot, does that mean you've seen the opposite of Bigfoot? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:55 PM |
| 5 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badFunctioning as an adult is basic. Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:54 PM |
| 3 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badHow would you suggest a person provide evidence that they haven't seen something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel bad"I'm wrong, but I can't handle it, so I'll pretend I can't read for a minute." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:51 PM |
| 8 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badThe person I replied to is struggling with treatment-resistant mental illness that impairs functioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badLinks, please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:49 PM |
| 1 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Having some differences doesn't mean those differences are an appropriate metric. Ime, it's just about ppl not knowing how to tell whether they're masculine or feminine, picking a convenient metric that includes them, and superimposing it on reality. (The universe isn't easy to categorize, and it doesn't care that we find that annoying.) It's fine if you wouldn't know who you are if you didn't have genitals anymore. I'm just saying, I don't think that's how most ppl experience themselves. And it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:49 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badWe went on quite a journey. "Dating is fulfillment." "Fulfillment doesn't require dating." "People want to date." "Wanting it doesn't mean it's needed. "Nobody is forcing you to date." Seems like you agree with me in the end, but in a pouty way. "Gaunt" means thin in an unhealthy way. They're calling it "ozempic face" right now. Lips get thin, eyes are sunken, eyelids droop, skin hangs, bones and tendons stick out. Many people become gaunt before they become thin. They look sick because they've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:43 PM |
| 2 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Our level of sexual dimorphism is incredibly low and reducing over time (bc it isn't necessary anymore). Around 20% of cis women won't be identifiable as female if an archeologist finds their pelvis one day. So that's an incredibly unreliable metric. Like saying soda flavors correlate to the color of the label. Yeah, sometimes. But it's wrong enough of the time that it's obv that the metric is artificial and ppl are just trying to stuff reality into it. And idk about you but, if I woke up with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 05:09 PM |
| 3 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Can't "stay away from" the environment you're in. Really sounds like femininity is new, and is a function of industrialization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:46 PM |
| 3 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Seems like I'm more masculine than a man who doesn't carry a gun. Even a man who thinks he'd use his fists is more girly than I am, bc he's not necessarily prepared to kill in self-defense. And if I'm more of a man than those men, then a man who wears the same clothing, jewelry, makeup, etc, that I do is more of a man than they are, as long as he has a gun. Right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:43 PM |
| 2 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Using their brains to do what? Not to protect themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:39 PM |
| 3 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?If the performance doesn't make you feminine, then nobody can tell if you're feminine or not until they see your genitals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:36 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badI'd prefer to have a million dollars. Doesn't mean I'm not perfectly fine now. You don't know what autism is. Studies tell us what's true by measuring it. Men don't have anxiety about introducing themselves bc studies told them to. The studies are reporting the anxiety that already exists. Studies on attraction do the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:35 PM |
| 6 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Everyone is capable of violence. I carry a gun, and that makes me more prepared at any given moment than an unarmed man. Does my choice to not shoot anyone today make me more masculine than him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:33 PM |
| 3 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Ignoring statistical likelihood of danger = femininity? How do/did women ever survive living in places with dangerous wildlife? Is femininity new? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:31 PM |
| 4 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?... you know that cis men are also performing, right? If it were stored in the testes, there would be no difference in what's considered masculine between cultures and over time. (Arguably, between species.) There would be no difference in the level of performance from person to person, or between groups. It's literally all learned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:30 PM |
| 5 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Not selling the idea that masculinity is a good thing. But good to know that the fact that I'm always armed makes me masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:27 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badWomen don't need to date a man to have a fulfilling life. Lots of things change who finds a person attractive. Race, disability, height... Who's telling ppl to bleach their skin (without knowing they're being disgusting)? You know what you find attractive. To know what men, as a whole, find attractive, we do studies. According to studies, men prefer underweight women as long as those women have healthy-looking faces. A chubby woman with a healthy-looking face is rated as more attractive than a t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:25 PM |
| 7 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?Masculinity = violence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:19 PM |
| 5 | What unique value do you think men provide to society, that can't be provided by women?I guarantee you've met or seen passing trans men and intersex men, and never had the thought that they weren't masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:19 PM |
| 5 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalSex lives, date opportunities, relationships, and birth rates are all different things. The only thing your scenario addresses is date opportunities. The reason ppl would push back against this is the same reason ppl don't approve of "mail-order brides." It invites abuse with the appearance of a connection. A person can be strong-armed into agreeing, and then tightly controlled, with minimal effort. That's only ok if your goal is to get good numbers, no matter what looks like in actual practice.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:16 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badYou contradict yourself. If you can't be picky, then fat doesn't matter. Any shape is fine. And it makes no sense to bring it up at all. "Just don't be fat," just says you don't understand how biology works, or attraction. Silliness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 04:06 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badHuman bodies aren't all the same. Therefore, they cannot all look the same. It's silly to think that they can, and not at all rooted in biology or medicine. (Men aren't exactly famous for understanding bodies. Not their own, and especially not women's.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:59 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badThis seems like excuse to remain fat Is a corgi making excuses if it doesn't become a greyhound? Seems like ignorance of biology. Men absolutely do reject women for not being thin. If they didn't, weight wouldn't be a discussion point at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:53 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badPpl are built the way they're built. To use an analogy I saw recently, a corgi isn't an overweight greyhound. They're entirely different body shapes. One can't become the other. Human body shapes are the same way. Many men don't take that into account. Having a thin waist isn't healthy for every body type. It isn't more attractive for every body type. Even though men overall prefer very thin women, that's only true when that very thin woman still looks healthy. "Controlling" body shape, especial… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:43 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badESL? Not only is shape not something that can be "controlled," the implication that it should be is inappropriate. Even if a person wanted to appeal to men, thinness isn't a unilateral priority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:03 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badWhere did I say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 02:04 PM |
| 12 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badIn the most compassionate and gentle of ways... Do you think you can actually have a relationship while struggling so much with the basics? Do you expect a relationship to make anything better without adding more strain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 01:06 PM |
| 1 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badNope. Normal human bodies are different for a reason. And while research does show that men prefer underweight women, it also shows that men value a proportional, healthy face over waistline. There's a point at which, even if she's not skinny, her face will begin to hollow out, and any points she gets for a thigh gap are lost to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 01:01 PM |
| 6 | "Personality" and "social skills" are just attempts to moralizing dating and make lonely men feel badI don't have any abusive men in my personal circle. Not being aware of who's doing it (or has, or will) isn't the same as not knowing anyone who's doing it (or has, or will). i don't claim that I can impeccably discern someone's toxicity, as women frequently do. I haven't seen a woman ever claim that she can reliably detect toxicity that someone is hiding. Seems like a strawman to me. Men are better at lying than women are and some men think they're being sneaky when they're def not. Bug differe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 12:50 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?I want women to be sacrificing and contributing to society and men the same way men are to society and women. Nope. You just said you want women over here, and men over there. Separate is inherently unequal. The only sacrificing and contributing to society that normal men do is the same that normal women do. Get a job, pay bills, pay taxes, hopefully vote, do some small good things, generally try not to do bad things, and prob have and/or raise a kid at some point. That's it, and that's enough. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?I want women to be sacrificing and contributing to society and men the same way men are to society and women. Nope. You just said you want women over here, and men over there. Separate is inherently unequal. The only sacrificing and contributing to society that normal men do is the same that normal women do. Get a job, pay bills, pay taxes, hopefully vote, do some small good things, generally try not to do bad things, and prob have and/or raise a kid at some point. That's it, and that's enough. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?It's not worth the risk. That's a personal choice. Not institutionally enforced discrimination. it's 50% hers. Exactly. The poor baby attitude some men have around divorce is laughable. She did not steal his house. He just no longer has access to her half of their assets. Just like what she experiences when she loses access to his half. "Residential custody" doesn't mean anything. [...] It means the Dad gets them every other weekend and has to pay child support. Pick a stance. Is it meaningless,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 4 | If you’re wondering why guys do things “women don’t like”. It’s because some women do like it.Your examples of "things women don't like" are pretty flimsy. Just personal preference. Not actual red flag behavior. For actual red flag behavior.... Some secret alternative answers: He's playing mind games (a fave hobby among some men). A "coach" or influencer told him that women like it and anyone who says they don't is a liar. It's what he wants to do (and is being rejected by incompatible ppl, bc that's how it's supposed to work). He's intentionally setting himself up for failure bc he has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 01:23 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?50% of marriages That's an old, inaccurate stat. It's a little over 30%. (Important to remember that the divorce rate compares the number of marriages in a yr to the number of divorces in the same yr. If divorce is gonna happen, the avg is 8 yrs. So, today's couples, vs couples who met a decade ago. Not exactly comparable, given the changes in the selection process and lifestyle.) house If she's receiving half of the value of the house, it's bc it's not his house. It's theirs. They own it togeth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:29 PM |
| 11 | why cant you lust after average men?I like avg men. Most women date avg men... bc most men are avg men. That's not enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Men aren't interested in marriage Then they can't complain that they may not marry. you don't seem to understand basic economics I don't think you understand that a system that can't sustain itself without constantly adding ppl to the bottom tier is a pyramid scheme. Running out of ppl to scam is a good thing. It means forced transition to a sustainable model. (Ffs, we already have 4x the number of ppl we should, to balance environmental health with reasonable human standard of living, utilizing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:41 PM |
| 6 | why cant you lust after average men?Do you want women to not be "like a crazy person," or to "act obsessed"? How should women perform lust? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Women don't suffer from loneliness"My kind" lol that's terrifying. I can't afford overseas travel rn. Maybe conversations, then video calls, then discussing a visit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:06 PM |
| 0 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessyou chose an example that virtually no man or woman would consider a realistic dating option. Why not? They're ppl, just like everyone else. Who cares if they sleep in their car, a shelter, their mom's basement, or a mattress on the floor? That shouldn't matter. If women don't get to reject options just bc they don't wanna pursue them, neither do men. If men have that right, so do women. Can't have both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessUS. How would you suggest we proceed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:58 PM |
| 0 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessThat doesn't extrapolate to being shamed for giving men a chance. It means what it says, choose better. It is shaming for "giving a chance." She gave a guy a chance, and she shouldn't have, for whatever reason. She should've known better than to "give him a chance," just bc he's receptive. If a person looks down on a man for "giving a chance" to a homeless woman, just bc she's receptive, that's not different. The same responses apply. He should've known better. The reason they are homeless is mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:57 PM |
| 2 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessCool beans. Lmk where you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessMen won't take any option, tho. Which is the point. They'll decline to even consider "those women" (varies depending on the person). If any man at all is an option, then any woman at all is an option. If a woman needs to be desired to some degree to be an option, then a man also needs to be desired to some degree to be an option. Can't be both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessGettin' close to my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessI'm sorry, what was the intended message of your comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:38 PM |
| 5 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessWhy would a man want a woman who is only with him so she has a place to live and isn't on the streets? She's an option. For women, an option is anyone receptive. As long as he's receptive, he's an option, and she needs to own that she's just being too picky. Why would it be any different for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:30 PM |
| 4 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessThere's nothing wrong with being homeless. It doesn't make a person lesser. That's messed up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:27 PM |
| 3 | Women don't suffer from loneliness"Choose better." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:26 PM |
| 5 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessAlways open to additional partners. I'm polyam, queer, childfree and keep tarantulas. All that cool with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:26 PM |
| 5 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessSo? Women who are receptive to literally any guy aren't looked on favorably, but they have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:40 AM |
| 8 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessYou've asked every homeless woman in your city? (If you aren't sure, your city might have an estimate you can compare to the number of approaches you've done.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Is a man being nerdy a turn off?Men with passions are awesome. Nothing better than seeing his eyes light up when he sees something, and letting him excitedly explain why he loves it. Doesn't matter much what it is. It's about the happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:36 AM |
| 7 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessThat's incredibly ignorant. The biggest cause of homelessness for women is fleeing IPV. The second is missing work and being unable to catch up due to poor wages and increasing cost of living. Women who become homeless aren't all addicts. And addiction doesn't make someone not an option. (If that were true, 24% of men would be excluded from the dating pool bc of alcoholism and drug addiction.) Option ≠ easy. Option = receptive to the person asking. Men just need to ask. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:19 AM |
| 10 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessWhy would you assume that they aren't interested? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 10:55 AM |
| 22 | Women don't suffer from lonelinessIf you, as a woman, claim that you don't have dating options, I will say that you are too picky. If a man hasn't approached every homeless woman in his city, he isn't lonely. He's lazy. He has options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 10:51 AM |
| 0 | Women have it harder in dating.More options don't guarantee success, but they do increase the chances of finding someone who is actually a good fit. In the case of dating, quantity does not have a quality of its own. It's not like the lottery, where each ticket has the same likelihood of success. Incompatible ppl have no likelihood of success, and compatibility is rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:30 AM |
| 4 | women choosing terrible men/ choices with full information is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history.lmao Yeah, we wish that was the common use. It usually starts in childhood, tho. You go to an adult bc a boy is bullying you, pushing you down, breaking your stuff, and you get, "Oh, he's not being mean, he just likes you. It's a compliment. Boys will be boys, you know..." (I genuinely hope it's a dying practice, but I'm not holding my breath.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:48 PM |
| 13 | women choosing terrible men/ choices with full information is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history.Every time men behave badly and women are told to chill out, calm down, be the bigger person, work around it, etc... that's "boys will be boys." It frames bad choices as acts of god. Just normal stuff that happens. Might as well laugh it off, bc it's not like anyone can do anything. (That includes him. He can't do anything. It's just how he is. At most, he can apologize and pinky promise to never do it again.) It doesn't just hurt women. It hurts everyone. The penal system - at least in the US -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.If any of the work were being done on that side, it would be a tiny little haystack. Incompatible ppl wouldn't be adding themselves to the pile, forcing me to sort them back out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.If The One is in your city, then they are. They're out there looking for you. (Wanting to be in a relationship is part of compatibility.) They're the needle, right? If you only go thru highly compatible ppl, you have a little haystack. If the needle exists, it'll be in that haystack. (Bc they're maximally compatible, so they count.) If you go thru ppl who at least check a couple boxes, you have a medium haystack. If the needle exists, it'll be in that haystack. (Bc they check the maximum number … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.And a person who doesn't know what it's actually like to have it may always see it thru rose-colored glasses, rather than as it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.It's not a positive experience. It's an endless drain on resources that could be spent doing literally anything else. Hiking. Raising shrimp. Learning how to make pickles. Mentoring. Volunteering. Deadlifting. Home improvement projects. Making friends. Quilting. Joining a club. Going to festivals. Mastering winged eyeliner. Brewing mead. Painting Warhammer figurines. Lego. Reading. Sketching. Bubble baths. Petting dogs. Local concerts. The world is full of experiences. Constant sorting robs us o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:42 PM |
| 0 | Women have it harder in dating.both are just as bad One wastes time, effort, emotional bandwidth, etc, more than the other. That's the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:11 PM |
| 0 | Women have it harder in dating."Big pile = better" is puzzling to me. Like "fuller mailbox = more paychecks." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Women have it harder in dating.Either the needle is there, or it isn't. Adding more hay doesn't change that. It only makes it more work to find out. Waste my entire life digging thru hay, developing resentment, putting everything else on hold... or find out more quickly and get on with it? Yeah, the second one. I want a life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:01 PM |
| -1 | Women have it harder in dating.Either the one is there, or they aren't. Doesn't matter how much or little hay you add. Hay won't magically become more needles. It can only waste time and energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:57 PM |
| -1 | Women have it harder in dating.Incompatible ppl are not needles. They are hay. By definition, they are not viable potential partners. Adding hay doesn't spawn more needles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Bro. "A bunch of mystery info is being kept from you, so whatever anyone says, the truth is the opposite," is an appeal to secret knowledge. It's a fallacy that preys on ppl who are gullible and/or desperate. Your brother's neighbor's dog's breeder's friend is not a reliable source of directions to Waffle House, let alone sociological data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.Almost all of it, if not all of it. Men notoriously "cast a net," which is a nice euphemism for meaningless, indiscriminate approach with no consideration for compatibility. It isn't real interest any more than an envelope addressed to "current resident" includes a letter to you. The envy for trash is counterproductive. Being hungry sucks. Doesn't mean it makes any sense to point at a pile of rocks and say, "I wish I was eating that." No, you don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.men being dumbass and women being perfect angels. is not included in my comment at all. If you're looking for it, you haven't found it here. Anecdotes have little evidentiary weight. They are far too subjective, uncontrolled, and unverifiable. Studies - which are orderly, transparent, designed to include a selection of subjects that's appropriately broad for the data being collected, peer-reviewed for accuracy in method, and can be examined for bias and researcher credentials, have much more evi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.Why? To waste your time, force you to shred stuff you never asked for, and fill up your trash can? It's just analog spam. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Disrespect isn't stored in the desire for a relationship. Using one to showcase the other doesn't make them inherently linked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Yeah, right. Are you saying that men who say they don't want that look are lying? They actually do love giant lips and sunken cheeks? Why are they lying? What do they have to gain? men being told that they’re too small to date makes a whole lot of money for ppl in the gym/"fitness," diet, cosmetic procedure, and fashion industries. Mario Bertulli has sold discrete elevator shoes to more than 650k men, at $200-300 a pop. Planet Fitness alone raked in $2.2 billion in profit last yr. There are mult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 04:03 PM |
| 0 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.I disagree. Healthy emphasis is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:28 PM |
| 3 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Economic interests. In general, men aren't a fan of lip fillers. While being underweight scores highly in studies, thin women with gaunt faces score lower than heavier women with proportional, healthy-looking faces. If men's preferences set the standard, we wouldn't see either in media. The ppl who love overfull lips and Skeletor chic are the ppl making money on juvederm and ozempic. The ppl who are hired for public-facing roles are the ppl who provide the most passive advertisement. Regular ppl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.So? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Conventional attractiveness isn't set by men's standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.If you think both are dumb bc they aren't needs, why not target both? Surely there are ppl you're missing by only showing up here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:13 PM |
| 3 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.They don't. They determine what's considered conventionally attractive. Lip fillers are a good example. Men, as a whole, aren't a fan of overfull lips. At all. Who likes overfull lips? Filler companies. So, what do you see in the media, etc? Women who've had their lips done. Who gets hired into those positions? Women who've had their lips done. What do women do when they want success like the women on tv? Get their lips done. Men have rated underweight women as more attractive in studies. Howeve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Depends on the circles you run in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Ok, so, open up a browser window. Navigate to a search engine. Type in, "are men responsible for anorexia?" Do a little reading. Does your old understanding match the standard psychiatric model and the known history of eating disorders? If not, your old info is incorrect (or outdated), and can be replaced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.No idea what scapegoat you see in there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:54 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Once we're adults, we are in charge of our own development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.You sure are. Until/unless you break the ToS or rules, you get to be in any sub you don't like and don't wanna be in. I frequent r/tarantulas, bc I have some, and I like them. Do you wanna pop over there and make sure everyone knows there's no biological or psychological need for anyone to keep horror hamsters? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.goes to the dating place where ppl discuss dating "Better not be a sub where ppl discuss dating in here!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.am i supposed to forget about sex ed? You're supposed to know that you don't get every bit of information, or entirely accurate information, when you're a kid. Like, you know that they say, "a species is a kind of animal that can breed with each other, but not with other species," in grade school... and that's entirely untrue. Right? It's just a dumbed-down version intended to get you started, so you can learn the basics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.goes to the dating place where ppl discuss dating "Better not be anyone who cares about dating around here!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.I disagree with the specifics, but agree with the general conclusion. Men's biggest complaint about dating is that it's hard to introduce themselves to strangers. Women's biggest complaint about dating is that it's dangerous. If we had to choose between embarassment and being in actual danger, pretty sure the majority of ppl at large would rather be embarrassed. That said, I'd say the biggest issues in terms of staying safe are the impracticality of "running at the first sign" and the narrative … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Nah, I just tried it and nobody wanted to include me anymore. Turns out, "I don't care," has no value to anyone involved. I mean, I already knew that, but it never hurts to confirm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Women have it harder in dating.I'd say the approach and the first couple dates are the intro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Omw to jump into convos just to say, "I don't care," as if I were personally invited. Maybe you're onto something. Maybe it feels empowering to derail stuff. Idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Women have it harder in dating.Why do you sort thru junk mail? Bc it's in the way of what you're looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:21 PM |
| 12 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.I disagree that those men genuinely don't know things. More that they aren't taking those things seriously. A bit like the "walkaway wife" thing. A guy will start out saying that he had no idea anything was wrong. But if he talks long enough, it comes out that he did know. He knew for yrs. He just didn't take any of it seriously. Idk if it's an empathy thing, or a solipsism thing, or what. But it's amazing that they survive in real life. Surely the, "nothing is real, nothing matters," attitude d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:19 PM |
| -1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Then you should go elsewhere. That's the entire point of this area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Have you considered that you aren't in the right place? I mean, idc about trains, so I don't join in convos about trains just to say, "I don't care." Not trying to kinkshame or bash a hobby, just doesn't make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:11 PM |
| 3 | Women have it harder in dating.Compatibility is necessary for a successful relationship. An incompatible person is a potential partner for someone else. Being pursued by that person is a waste for everyone involved. Hay to sort thru. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:09 PM |
| 3 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Conventional beauty standards are set by the ppl who make money from them, not by actual men. Just ftr. That should always have been the discussion. The question here is whether or not you think men should be shamed for wanting someone reasonably attractive, regardless of what that looks like for an individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:05 PM |
| -3 | Women have it harder in dating.Been on both ends. Too much is worse. If you get to choose a haystack to search thru, you pick the smallest one you can. More hay doesn't mean more needles, just more wasted time and effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:01 PM |
| 6 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.Why is, "women also have an interest in attractive men," a negative thing? I'm confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.sounds horribly exhausting Wait till you hear about how actual relationships work. Constant work. (The kind where you respect and care about one another, blend your lives, act as primary supports and inspirations, etc. Not just happen to be in proximity while living entirely separate lives. That's just employment.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:53 PM |
| 0 | Men have to approach.Sounds a bit like, "If she isn't sleeping with me, it's bc she doesn't like me, and not for any other reason at all," doesn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:40 PM |
| 4 | Most people need to experience casual sex, especially men.I haven't seen any basis for the idea that women aren't attracted to their spouses. On the contrary, research indicates that men marry whoever they happen to be with when they're ready... while women choose the person they wanna marry, and then stay until they're ready. That suggests that she's more likely to find him attractive - she picked him - than he is to find her attractive - she was convenient. An issue with casual sex as a measure of desireability is the likelihood of regret. "I was cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Nope. Bad-faith whining doesn't get any more effort from me. If the goal is just to roll around on the ground and cry, why not just do that without involving ppl who are actually putting effort in? Is it just not as satisfying if nobody's watching? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Yeah, nah. You're obv not speaking in good faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 10:17 AM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Of course evolution has an agenda. No, it doesn't. There's no intent involved. If a specimen's traits give it an edge, they're most likely to be represented in the next generation, bc that's how living things work. If the traits are a detriment, they're least likely to be represented in the next generation, bc that's how living things work. We get around it a lot of the time, which is why we're still around at all, but it's still ultimately the same process, bc that's how living things work. bre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 04:03 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Women are already not selecting men The projected proportion of current young men in the US to be married at least once by middle-age surpasses the number of young men who are interested in marriage (75% and 68%, respectively). Not having it happen today isn't the same as not having it happen. Just bc it feels like an emergency doesn't make it an emergency. the fertility rate is through the floor The current drop in fertility rates is 1%. If we continue that trend, losing 1% annually, we have ov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/26 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?It would've been a stupid thing to do though, considering the success of women's liberation movements in the 1920s in most of the west. 100 yrs ago were the 1920s. And men were not a fan of any women's interests. If you think dudes are mad about women wanting sexual autonomy now, imagine how the dudes who were accustomed to quietly SAing their wives felt when they were first told to stop? Men's movements? are a bit like straight pride most of the time. Disingenuous and focused on rolling back pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Absolutely. Every woman who's ever given genuine advice to a man online has done it. Women are more likely to object to military action (something that puts men in danger in much greater numbers), push for improved safety conditions for workers in man-dominated fields (like transportation and manufacturing) and in the penal system (which would benefit many more men than women), donate blood (which is not sorted by sex and is more often needed by men in emergencies), give compliments, initiate sm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?I could've said the same thing 100 yrs ago about women. "Men will never allow it." Turns out, if you don't give up, it happens anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:47 PM |
| 2 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Women would hate it, for a start. Not a big factor. I mean, men have hated a lot of stuff women have done. We adapt. If men abandoned their stoic nature, there would be nobody to do all the hard, essential, dirty, dangerous, undesirable jobs in society. Because those jobs rely on men who suppress their emotions. There's nothing about emotional intelligence that makes a person incapable of logging. If anything, the ability to express and process in healthy ways would lower levels of stress and fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 06:00 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Evolution doesn't have an agenda. It's just change over time. Sexual dimorphism is on its way out bc we don't need it anymore. We have high individual variation. That, and cultural marker selection, have taken over. Happens to social species. It's fine. High libido isn't necessary for reproduction. A single instance of unprotected piv sex has a 5-42% chance of pregnancy, depending on the timing. Trying 10x in a yr (considered to be a dead bedroom) has a 50-70% chance of pregnancy. As a whole, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:45 PM |
| 2 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Up to 80% of men hold misogynistic ideals, depending on your favorite study. About 40% in one multinational study said they think misogyny is ok if it's a joke. You must be hanging out with a subset of men who never stop laughing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:55 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?The men you know get violent when they find out a guy they know is a misogynist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:34 PM |
| 16 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaHard agree on internalized misandry. Nobody works harder to make men out to be infants, idiots or animals as men do. It gets to the point where treating men as equals is met with hostility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:13 PM |
| 7 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaCloser to a seminar on consent in a world in which consent isn't valued, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:53 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?I have only heard a guy tell another guy to stop an inappropriate behavior toward a woman or child once in the past 4 decades, including instances in which I was the target and around men I trusted. It doesn't matter if the rebuke is harsh when it happens, if it rarely happens. (And, let's face it, when that kind of violence happens, it's not about fixing a problem, just emotion. It's often the worst thing that can be done.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:50 PM |
| 2 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Controversial? Women are too permissive as a whole, and not violent enough when it comes to self-defense. Less controversial but more negative... Too many women end up acting like all choices are equally valid, as a way to justify having the right to make them. "That's a stupid choice," pairs just fine with, "I support your right to make that choice." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:32 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?It's a defacto requirement in many fields. Women who don't wear makeup are passed over for promotions and raises more often than women who do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:57 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?I am, of course, the one exception. /hj I enjoy waxing. None of my partners care. I don't have a preference when it comes to other women. But I like it. And it's a fun couples activity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:55 PM |
| 2 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?We aren't "supposed to" have anything. We're in the process of evolving, just like every other species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:50 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?I def believe it should be way less of a thing. Like hair color. Sure, we can talk about it, explore it, etc... but it should have nothing to do with the important stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:48 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Men shouldn't [...] start sharing all their feelings and thoughts about every inane subject all the time What would be the downside to making that behavior a guy thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:37 PM |
| 3 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Ppl tend not to listen to ppl they don't respect... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:33 PM |
| 1 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?Given the atmosphere in the US rn, I have to disagree. Unless the victim is under 12, a large number of men will defend and justify the action. Jail isn't really a threat... SA has a 95% chance of having no legal accountability. You gotta be on camera, esp violent, or off-putting in some other way. Importantly, the most protective thing a man can do in that arena is to not tolerate lower-level misogyny. Stop it before it ever gets to that point, and save all of the targets he'd have over time as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:30 PM |
| 3 | What’s the most controversial negative opinion you have about your own gender?I think the first one is related to the way girls were/are socialized to see themselves as the ones who can/need to save, fix, help and "civilize" boys. If he says he's changed, he deserves a second chance. If he says he doesn't know how to treat you, you need to teach him. If he's a jerk like his friends, he just needs you to be a good influence. Young women haven't had time to unlearn childhood and learn adulthood, so they're mostly working with the programming. It does everyone a disservice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 12:20 PM |
| 4 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing."Idc that this thing is stressing you out. Let's do this thing that you can't enjoy while you're stressed, bc it benefits me." Gold star. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 11 | Man flu is real and proves that women don't have empathy for men.My sibling and I are cleaning house. They have EDS, which means their joints can partially dislocate just from reaching for something. I don't have that issue, but I do have a bum ankle from an accident like 6 yrs ago. Different issues. They reach for something and their shoulder tries to jump ship. It's not an ER situation. I roll my eyes and say, "it's fine, it's normal for you." Later, I step wrong and my ankle gives out. It's not an ER situation. They roll their eyes and say, "it's fine, it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:46 PM |
| 8 | Man flu is real and proves that women don't have empathy for men.Spain? Menstrual leave is pretty rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:34 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I'm gonna poke you 2-3 times per second without stopping. You can stop the poking, and it'll be stopped for a day or two, but it's a process. If you do it alone, it takes 2 hrs. If your partner helps, it'll take 30 mins. She says no. She doesn't care that you're using up an hr and a half you could spend together. She doesn't even care if it stops at all, bc she's not getting poked. Just shut up so she can do something that actually matters, like watching tv. (Good luck being receptive to sex, bt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Nobody has much moral character Most have some kind of standard. Men indicate in research that theirs are less rigid. Young men, esp. But even young men have some concept of right and wrong. Off the high-horse please and thank you. Being on a high horse is when you expect other ppl to try to be decent, while you do the same. Good to know. You can have self-respect I can't have self respect and be a spectator while someone else suffers. without putting your body on the line for random women. Yeah… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Society is less moral than it once was. I disagree, in that ethics are steadily refined over time. We started out just not killing kids too often and calling that good. Now we recognize that there are a lot of things we cannot do to kids, not even a little bit. Arguably, accountability is more widespread in a lot of areas. Racism, for example, comes with a lot more social consequence than it used to. We may be less discreet about it, tho. Secular morality, unfortunately, is still poorly defined.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?And really, why shouldn't they? Ethics. Character. Self-respect. Women aren't the only ones who have a moral compass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:24 PM |
| 10 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.None of this is urgent generally speaking. Neither is having someone poke you over and over. You can technically sit still while they're doing it. But you can't relax. It bothers you the entire time. The longer it goes on, the more frustrated and angry you get. (And if you don't stop it soon enough, it'll keep going all night.) That's the point. No, it's not an emergency. But it bothers her the entire time it's not done. Can you understand that, "just stop being bothered by it," isn't a realisti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:22 PM |
| 13 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I find that difficult to believe. Upstairs neighbor screaming? Unpaid bills? Empty fridge? Something poking you? Kids fighting? Hungry? Thirsty? Literally just anything that you technically could put off, but that will drive you insane if you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Same goalposts. Just now figuring out how far away you were, maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 06:46 PM |
| 16 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.I don't think you understand. The space needs to be clean first for relaxation to happen. The mess/clutter causes stress. Surely there's something that would prevent you from relaxing until it's resolved... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 06:45 PM |
| 26 | When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing.Ain't no one coming over, why are we in such a rush to clean the house exactly? Being in a neat space lowers cortisol, releases dopamine, improves sleep and increases productivity. Decluttering, specifically, helps with overstimulation and efficiency, and is safer in terms of accidents. Regular cleaning helps with allergies and sensitivities. (Worth saying that those hormonal benefits directly link to her libido. Lots of other things, too. But libido is a big priority for many dudes.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Let's say your a stay at home partner$1k a month on weed? She's being robbed. Or she's self-medicating for something, and stoned 24-7? Idk. That's nuts. If she declines, I volunteer to take it instead. Not interested in SAH for any reason other than medical need, but that's not nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Mental illness and the inability to control one's emotions aren't the same thing. Difficulty in self-regulation can be involved in mental illness. But 95-97% of violence is perpetrated by ppl who are not mentally ill. Research indicates that emotion is the primary driver of violence, well above non-emotional factors like financial gain. A very high proportion of offenders act out of emotion. They aren't mentally ill. They just lack emotional intelligence. And violence isn't the only risk. There … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?Considering the army men as a lunch option doesn't make them a lunch... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 04:20 PM |
| 0 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Cultural evolution is not a conscious thought process. It absolutely is, at least a large portion of the time. I don't have a "duty" to step in if I see someone trying to curb-stomp a dog. I don't expect that dog to belong to me afterward. I don't expect any kind of service from the dog. That's not why I'm stepping in. I'm doing it bc it's the moral thing to do. Worst case scenarios... The dog may run away after. It may bite me. The sadistic dick may take a swing. I may have to draw my EDC to pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Unregulated emotions become irrational behavior. In every instance in which a person becomes violent or otherwise behaves in a destructive way bc of their emotions, the outcome is absolutely traced to their inability to self-regulate. A person who begins to demonstrate problematic behavior that can reasonably be expected to escalate needs intervention to participate in the community without presenting undue risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:29 PM |
| 0 | Do you think that sexy women are "torturing" average and unattractive men?Weird that the thought process is, "Let's make it worse for women, instead of better for men." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?That's only true if all options are meaningful. If you haven't had lunch, it's not an improvement to get access to plastic army men. They won't resolve the original issue, and will add more issues. It's meaningless. Men are already familiar with this. Most exclude ppl who very much are options - men, homeless women, senior citizens, etc. They are options. They're just recognized as army men - meaningless. It's silly to think that's confined to just a few demographics. And it's silly to think tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:17 PM |
| 6 | So what is the true?Sexuality is varied. There's no "woman sexuality." Prob need to start clarifying whether we're discussing attraction (he looks good) and actionable attraction (I'm considering sex). Not the same thing. When the conversation centers on action - women don't jump on men - I think at least some portion of women respond in terms of actionable attraction. But if guys actually mean any level of attraction, with no action attached, the answers are likely to be different. I find lots of guys hot, and am … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:29 PM |
| 2 | "The patriarchy hurts everyone" can also be understood as "our biological realities are challenging".Wow, that's interesting. more vulnerable Cis women are more vulnerable biologically in terms of musculoskeletal disorders, gynecological issues, certain mental illnesses, etc. Risk of harm from men, govts, etc, are not biological. They're sociopolitical, and therefore artificially created and changeable. (By the same token, cis men are more vulnerable to penile and prostate issues, Parkinson's, bladder cancer, some mental illnesses, etc.) they need reliable partners when they get pregnant What w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 12:40 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about victimhood mentality, weaponized victimhood?And it is still widely used in takes like "we live in patriarchy", "women are oppressed", "women earn 70 cents per each dollar" et.c I disagree that this is indicative of a "victim mentality." Resolving issues begins with identifying and acknowledging issues. There's an issue we see among Biwoc that I'd say could be described as toxic empowerment... The idea that those women are so strong, and can overcome anything, that is used as an excuse to ignore the fact that they shouldn't have to be exce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 04:16 PM |
| 10 | Freedom in relationshipsThe only freedom a single person has over you is the ability to pick a new partner. That's it. Conscious limitations being placed on a partner aren't the only ones being referenced. Having a typical (monogamous) relationship doesn't just mean not sleeping around. There's a plethora of responsibilities, added labor, split priorities, and performance that comes with it. No one can be "on" all the time. That is effectively sacrificing the self for the role. And it's an unfair expectation to place o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 03:12 PM |
| 3 | Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted?Ime, most men don't really have a concept of loss of bodily autonomy in that intimate way. Their closest analogs are things like paying a bill they don't wanna pay, going to work, or being conscripted in an emergency. Not bc they would truly believe those things are comparable, but bc they don't have a frame of reference for accurate comparison. One more way we do kids a disservice and harm adults who deserve to have that foundational understanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 1 | If you remove or Ignore the "mens fault" and "woman are beutiful" whats left?As animals, we're crazy vulnerable to environmental pressures and disease. We get around that with technology. To die off from climate instability, we would have to reach a point at which we stopped developing technology to counter its effects and couldn't physically survive with what we have anymore. I don't see that happening anytime soon. We're at a point where high fertility rates are a threat, not a benefit. From economies to ecosystems, the facets of life on earth need fewer ppl to run sus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 01:22 PM |
| 2 | If you remove or Ignore the "mens fault" and "woman are beutiful" whats left?Not from underbreeding. A minimum population of humans is 100 individuals. But we def should still address the issues we face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 10:05 AM |
| 0 | Work on yourself is useless adviceI agree that it's reinforced in childhood and that it works sometimes. But it's far from a universal law, esp when it comes to social interaction. Don't we learn in grade school that we can't force Sam to be our friend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 11:16 PM |
| 6 | If you remove or Ignore the "mens fault" and "woman are beutiful" whats left?Not sure what any of this has to do with my comment. But it is interesting that you use dating apps, while believing that the person you're looking for isn't looking for you on there. Kinda like thinking, "Michael's doesn't have milk for sale," and then going exclusively to Michael's and not finding milk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceEveryone has a chance. Whether or not it pans out is largely outside of our control. Too many factors that have nothing to do with us, and that have to line up just right. Just like we can do our best to be healthy and live to 100, and still die in a car accident tomorrow. It isn't easy to balance a positive outlook that isn't dependent on achieving goals, while still keeping those goals. But it's a great place to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceIt's a bit like mortality, in that we have so little control. Everyone has emotions about it. But the ppl who obsess over "fixing" it have a much harder time than the ppl who have some level of peace with the fact that it can't be "fixed." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:07 PM |
| 28 | If you remove or Ignore the "mens fault" and "woman are beutiful" whats left?Lots of fun theories... Men report rn that they struggle most with introducing themselves to ppl they don't already know. Sounds like that's the most universally experienced issue. Ppl are all lonelier. We've lost third spaces (not work and not home). Everything costs money, and nobody has any. Religion is increasingly private, when it's present. Hours are long, bc pay is short and the middle class is steadily disappearing. And the state of the world collides with the fact that ignoring it isn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceNot everything that's uncomfortable or unfamiliar is a problem to be solved. A little peace with the nature of life goes a long way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Work on yourself is useless adviceit increases your chances, but it guarantees nothing. I've been surprised to learn that so many men don't get that. After being told over and over that there's no magic fix, why expect that to be a magic fix? smh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 06:21 PM |
| 2 | What do abusive men bring to the table?Apparently, none of this is attractive to women. Finding a person attractive is a huge distance from being reasonably certain that you're compatible enough to have a healthy, long-term relationship. That's not a personal indictment. Being incompatible with someone isn't a failure. It's just circumstance. Nobody's fault, just the way it is. Could you just explain why abusive men do so well in dating? Ultimately, they don't. If the goal is a long-term, happy relationship, they're losers. Kinda lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 06:16 PM |
| 0 | If a woman hesitates on a dna test then you HAVE to assume she cheated.But if a woman is asked for a dna test and she resists it in any way, she probably did cheat and there is a seed of doubt in her mind too. By that logic, if you don't give the govt your DNA, you're prob a rapist or murderer. You should def comply if you have nothing to hide, warrant or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 05:26 PM |
| 3 | If a woman hesitates on a dna test then you HAVE to assume she cheated.Men are insanely emotional. An issue with many is that they don't know when they're being emotional. "You're logical," made them believe that, if they think it, it's logic, rather than learning what that actually means, and how to separate it from emotion. Way too many takes on here are just emotion presented as fact... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 05:19 PM |
| 5 | Misandry is more prevalent than misogynyWhen we had this one school assembly, parents kept their kids out of it bc it discussed marital rape. So many men just unwilling to consider that they'd harmed their wives. So many wives who couldn't handle facing that they'd been harmed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 08:01 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Irrelevant. "Whether or not I ruin your life is irrelevant. Come be my spouse. It'll be great." Consent can be given without enthusiasm That's not consent. It is not consent to sex if they do not wanna be there. Marital SA laws are in place to prevent and obtain justice for exactly what you're describing. Irrelevant. You're fine SAing them. You would like to SA them. If given the chance, you would SA them. Just say that, instead of arguing that you wouldn't be SAing them, despite what you want b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 07:54 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.I am not enthusiastic about going to work They aren't anywhere near the same. Sexual harm is uniquely psychologically damaging. In terms of measurable impact - suicidality, addiction, PTSD development - it's worse than violent near-death experiences, including active combat. Even harm that appears less severe is disproportionately damaging. (The impact of sexual harassment is much deeper than that of nonsexual harassment, and can approach the severity of penetrative SA.) Comparing that experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 07:24 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Whether you like it or not. That's SA. Idk if you just don't know what SA is, or you don't wanna use the term bc it's a bad look. But it is factual that you are describing is SA. fully informed consenting adults Can withhold consent at any time. Consent has to be given every single time. And if it isn't freely given, informed, reversible, specific and enthusiastic, it's not consent. You aren't describing consent. Not running away or fighting back isn't consent. Address the argument The argument … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 05:43 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.There is nothing inhuman about doing your part in a relationship after you freely agreed to it. Submitting to SA is not part of a relationship. That's an archaic idea that comes from a time in which women were literal livestock. (I wouldn't recommend SAing livestock, ftr. They deserve better than abuse, too.) There is no incompatibility between being a human and also a dispenser/appliance Nope. I'm sorry that your condition changes the way you function. Still not an excuse for treating others po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:40 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Healthier than a dead bedroom. Nope. It's possible to have a healthy marriage without sex. It's not possible to have a healthy marriage without respect. Says you. Human beings don't work like that. If that's what he wants, he doesn't want a human being. And who are you to decide what someone else wants or does not want? If he wants a human being, he doesn't want an entity that isn't human. Not really important. I disagree. Being self-aware enough to accept that what he wants is a dispenser or ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 04:23 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.If she wants him to consent to remain married she must consent to sex. That's an ultimatum. Ultimatums are not healthy. If he expects her to genuinely want sex forever, according to his schedule of desire, he doesn't want a wife. It is cruel and dishonest to pretend he does. I suggest a sex doll and hiring a housekeeper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonif the claim here is that the fault of women filing divorces at a higher rate falls on men because they're supposedly not good at working on relationships or whatnot You're missing the point of what's being said. Again. Women are less likely to stay in a dysfunctional marriage. When there's a problem, they're more likely to try than to ignore it. When it's over, they leave. Men sit in it. They don't file for divorce less bc they're busy trying to save the relationship. They file for divorce less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:55 PM |
| 2 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.If she consented, she'd be trying to have sex. Consent isn't compliance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:21 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.If they aren't having sex, bc she isnt consenting to sex, the only option left is nonconsensual sex. Not sure how you aren't understanding the end result, here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:17 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.How else do you get nonconsensual sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonspin the blame on women divorcing on men's shoulders You believe that a persom who wallows in a bad situation, while holding others down in it as well, instead of doing anything to improve it deserves praise? That it's behavior to be emulated and celebrated? The same pattern can be seen among gay couples, with lesbians having the highest rate of divorce and gay men having the lowest. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. If one group is more likely to pee the bed and lay in it, and anot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 03:13 PM |
| 3 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Fair enough. Men should put that in writing then. We'd certainly see how many women are willing to allow their bodies to be someone else's property. One has to wonder what a man who wants to own another human being has to offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonExcept I never said anything about how good grandpa supposedly had it. The statements you're referencing - that women were not happy with the way things were - are said in response to glorifying the past. Disconnecting the words from their meaning in context is missing the point. proof that women [are] more moral I literally said that there's no intrinsic moral difference. They're the one's filing the vast majority [of] divorces Wives are also the ones who try to initiate couples' counseling whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 02:35 PM |
| 1 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Most marriages become sexless eventually. Most marriages don't end in divorce. Yes, if a requirement is no longer having bodily autonomy, it would need to be written in. Wouldn't hold up anymore in most places, as marital SA is recognized, but it would at least have some appearance of legitimacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:25 PM |
| 0 | Men will never go back to what they used to be for good reasonYou're essentially telling them that women are capable of feigning love for an entire marriage and having a whole ass family with a dude they don't really love for some perceived benefit. Yes. Women can lie, too. Esp when they have to. Shocking. But that isn't the point of saying it. The point is that, "but grandpa had it so good, so it's unfair for me to not have a participation trophy wife, too," isn't based in reality. Idealizing a past in which all women were forced to comply is ridiculous. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:22 PM |
| 3 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.I absolutely agree. Yes, sex is better during marriage, and the fact that it's more convenient when you live together matters. But nobody who isn't brand new on the planet has any reason to believe that sex is automatically consistent enough to justify marriage completely. The potential scarcity of sex after marriage is such a commonly understood thing that it's a media trope, ffs. Every 3rd joke is about how it's normal for it to drop off after a bit. We def need to keep pushing against the sec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:48 PM |
| 4 | No one told men marriage was gonna be a nonstop fuck fest.Wow. So many issues here. Fortunately, the marriage contract does not include requirements for sex. So the premise is dead before we get to the issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 12:32 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.If you were aware, it wouldn't make sense to say you were confused. Polyamory and polygamy are not the same thing. But it's whatever. You may not care about a particular red flag. That doesn't mean that thing doesn't qualify as a red flag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/26 12:23 AM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.If you aren't sure what edibles are, why not google? A red flag is any behavior or trait that is problematic or could indicate a deeper or more serious issue. Doesn't mean that a person should def be excluded, but that concern is reasonable. Maybe should've googled that, too? Bc drug use and past obsessive tendencies def are red flags... Polygamy has to do with contracts. Polyamory is being open to loving more than one adult. Again, I disagree that it's a red flag. Family shapes aren't problemat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:59 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 10:38 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.It's absolutely true that drug use could be an indication that a person won't be reliable or responsible, and a former obsessive condition could be an indication of future obsession. Can't pretend they wouldn't be thrown in someone's face if I turned out to be like that. ("She kept spiders and played with dead things? Of course she was hiding sicko stuff, ya idiot." lmao) No clue which one is hitting your button, but I'm perfectly happy with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedYou're really not getting it in the slightest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:37 PM |
| 1 | I don’t understand the big deal about going DutchCompletely valid. There are lots of reasons to go dutch (that aren't being whiny about things being too good) :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:28 PM |
| 1 | I don’t understand the big deal about going DutchBig question is why they don't look for each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:14 PM |
| 3 | I don’t understand the big deal about going Dutch"I don't want you to think you have leverage over me, I'm a grown-ass woman who wants to be treated as an equal" post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:09 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.shocked Whataboutism isn't shocking. That yikes is just acknowledgement of the unpleasantness of whataboutism. Depends how much she contributed to the situation. Unless she forced them to harm her, that's on them. There's never an excuse. How long she turned a blind eye to abusive behaviors, etc. We're gonna need to find everyone who's given the benefit of the doubt for a while when red flags popped up. If they were harmed, we'll punish them. If they weren't, we'll give them a cookie. That would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedYou seem to just not wanna accept fat shaming. It's a good thing that it was fat shaming. It'll heal your trauma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:53 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.I'm serious when the subject matter is serious. My biggest nopes seem to be my hobbies, former eating disorder, occasional enjoyment of edibles, and polyam family. I disagree that being polyam is a red flag, but I suppose it could be... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:52 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Yikes. My sentiments exactly. Eventually, men will need to actually address the issues they face, as a whole. That's gonna require breaking the habit of deflecting. She dated many toxic men. Would she be in the wrong for dating, say, 3 men, if they didn't harm her? I'm gonna say no, and I imagine you would, too. But bc they chose to harm her, that same decision - dating 3 men - is now something she should be reprimanded for? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:28 PM |
| – | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedI'm telling you that you're wrong. They def thought you were fat. So they did exactly what they should've done. You deserved it. And now you aren't hurt anymore. Right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:18 PM |
| 3 | I find women from other countries respect men more than in USA?In at least some, maybe most, cases... the same reason strippers are so nice and grandma put on a good show. I grew up in a conservative family, and was primed to have a "traditional" marriage. Not bc men were superior, or even equal, but bc they were lesser in so many ways. Too primitive for self-control and introspection, too stupid to learn to take care of themselves, too fragile to handle anything but coddling. You didn't praise him bc he was actually doing well. You did it bc it was the bes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 08:17 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Setting the two statistics side by side for the sake of comparison would be devaluing the issue? "See how someone else committed abuse, too? Guess you feel real silly for taking abuse seriously. If too many ppl do it, it kinda doesn't matter anymore." Both of their behaviors are the problem. She dated a man. That's her behavior. If you wanna say dating men is a dysfunctional behavior, I'd have to disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 07:25 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.It would technically be an exercise in putting things into perspective. No, it would be trying to devalue the issue. We agree that his behaviors are his fault His behavior is the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 07:05 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.I'm sure I have a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 07:00 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Then you know that it's a red flag, whether it escalates or not. Thus, it's irrelevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:46 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.But that's off topic. Glad you acknowledged that it would've been whataboutism. Nope. Awesome. Then we agree that it's his problem, and not her fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:39 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Do you not know what a red flag is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:37 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.You're an excellent argument against interacting with men rn. I'm glad the number of ppl coming into contact with you is limited. Hope you feel better one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 06:01 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Doesn't have anything to do with red flags at all, but thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:54 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Ime, ppl frequently avoid questions when the answers make them uncomfortable. I hope it's food for thought anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:51 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.A red flag doesn't stop being a red flag just bc it doesn't drive everyone away. Every man who does that is displaying a red flag. The fact that we're pushed to ignore red flags and assume the best of men, and its relevance to the fact that women don't "run at the first sign," is another discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Why did you decline to answer the question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:48 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.My bad. Didn't mean to misgender you. Def makes sense that you don't see them in that case, tho. They aren't relevant to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:46 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.So you know that the red flag exists. Do you just think it's not a red flag, bc other women aren't running from it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:46 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.I feel like you might not be looking for a variety of red flags in the men around you. Like, maybe one or two extreme ones. I recommend reading up on warning signs and grooming methods. Be safe. <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:43 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.There are lots of red flags, you know. But if you don't believe that men commonly position themselves as a "protector" who's willing to resolve conflict with violence, I have to wonder how many men you come into contact with in that context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:42 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.I gave one example. And others in another comment I can copy-paste if you'd like. If you don't believe that they're common behaviors, I encourage you to look for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:37 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men."Those ppl." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:36 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Lmao sure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:30 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.No, it means that an argument consists of repeating a set of points and never arriving at a conclusion. If you believe that's what I've done, I'm all ears. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:27 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.if you find yourself being attracted to more than one, that's a pattern If you pull out more than one bead that feels diamond-like, that's a pattern. Is it a pattern bc you're looking for those beads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.It doesn't fit the circumstance. There's nothing circular in my statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:22 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.That doesn't make any sense. There's no circle to talk in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:20 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.I didn't say that at all. But if you're determined to read what isn't written, you cannot be helped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:19 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.No, we don't. Toxic men are far too prevalent to be "contained" in that way. They go after all sorts. Which was the point of the metaphor you didn't understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 05:04 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Men's poor mental health and dysfunctional behavior are not mostly yours to fix. I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:49 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Read it again, pls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Bruh, that doesn't fit the metaphor at all. And it's bizarre to pretend there isn't an issue in the demographic overall of poor mental health and dysfunctional behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:44 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Thank you. No worries | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:28 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Yep. Just as an example, heavy emphasis on a capacity for violence. Does it mean he's definately gonna beat her up? Nope. Maybe he thinks he sounds brave or protective. But it's not less terrifying just bc he doesn't mean for it to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:28 PM |
| – | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedI was starting to get thinner by then. Sounds like you were fat. So, which is it? Is it fine for them to fat shame you, or was it cruel and caused you harm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:22 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Per the Ten for Men study, up to 1 in 3 men have been abusive toward a woman in some way, and 1 in 10 have been violent. Depending on your favorite study, up to 25% have had nonconsensual sexual contact with someone during their late teens or as adults. We know that men are in the midst of a mental health crisis and are much more likely to use unhealthy behaviors instead of seeking evidence-based help. It's not a baseless insult. It's an actual problem - a series of actual problems - that can't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:21 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Omg you really don't, do you? Let me help. "Bipoc commit most of the crime," is racist bc it's not true. We've done the research and the evidence does not support it. The only reason it's repeated is to assign an intrinsic trait that doesn't exist and give discrimination the appearance of legitimacy. To harm ppl who don't have the sociopolitical power to avoid harm. That's why it's bad. Not bc it has race in it, and not bc it's criticism. Same thing is true when it comes to gender, nationality, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 04:12 PM |
| – | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedSo if I tell you that those girls picked on you bc they thought you were fat, that changes everything. They did. They just thought you had the wrong build. You're welcome for healing your trauma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:41 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Ah, so you don't know why a racist statement is racist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:39 PM |
| 1 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.In what world does, "I notice this person," exclude, "I notice this person and don't behave bizarrely about it"? Are you under the impression that noticing someone must come with either derisive behavior or sexual attraction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:10 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Nope. But if you'd like to call criticism of a dominant demographic's verified behavior the same as demonizing a minority demographic without any valid criticism... free speech, I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:08 PM |
| 2 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.I mean, I wouldn't say you're whining. Just maybe a little defensive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:06 PM |
| 0 | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Noticing someone (which is all I said) = sneering or wincing, unless it's you doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:05 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.If I give you a bucket of beads that are mostly shaped like diamonds, with a couple of diamonds mixed in, how many times do you think you'll need to reach in and pick one before you find a diamond? Can't be more than two, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:04 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Going to the dating debate sub, muttering, "There better not be a diverse collection of ppl here, debating about dating." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 03:00 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Noticing someone who doesn't have self esteem = looking at them like shit on our shoes just for having the gall to pass us on the street. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:58 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Everyone finds a lot of toxic men, bc there are many, many toxic men of various types and degrees. The avg man holds misogynistic ideals, has internalized misandry, hasn't unlearned the terrible stuff he grew up around and absorbed unconsciously, and absolutely has the potential to escalate. (No one is immune to bad choices.) A bit like, "just get a gun and draw it whenever a man crosses a line." We'd never put them away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:57 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.The beautiful catch 22. Ignore me? Bad. Notice me? Bad. Do secret third thing, only. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:51 PM |
| 3 | Women appreciate compliments, just not from guys who obviously want sex as a thank you.Absolutely! My apologies, I didn't intend to imply that only compliments from straight women are awesome. (I'm not straight either, and I like to think my compliments are nice.) Only that it's nice when ulterior motives are completely off the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:51 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Physically getting too close, touching/reaching, being crass, backhanded compliments, displaying capacity for violence ("I'd kill a guy if he ever threatened you," "I can take any of the men in here," open carry, using a knife for something when it's not necessary), following, communicating that he knows personal info ("So, how are things on Main Street?" when address hasn't been shared). Maybe he's trying to be confident, or show that he's invested or adventurous, and just missing the mark, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 02:39 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Two bulls hanging out in a barn. One turns to the other and says, "Rabbit said Fox is a predator. Can you believe that?" "Nah," the other bull replies, "I don't know what he's going on about. Fox has never been anything but nice when he passes thru the barn." If you aren't the target, you will never feel targeted. If you aren't around when it's time to hunt, you will never see that behavior. If you aren't doing the bad thing yourself, you may even see the behavior, and just not recognize it. Acc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:51 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.You are assuming that the men available to date includes men who aren't toxic in sufficient numbers that they can be differentiated and chosen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:21 PM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.you'd hardly know they were there. Women cannot afford not to notice men. Not reacting isn't the same as not noticing. I fear you may be falling into the classic trap of thinking you and your friends can't have red flags, bc you already know that you're good ppl, so other men must be the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:19 PM |
| – | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedExactly. It's different when you do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 12:16 PM |
| – | Its better to be ignored than ridiculedTell that to the female classmates healthy dose of fat shaming in order to help them reach their full potential Mean kids were mean, and I carry that trauma to this day! Also, I'm like that, but it's different when I do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:44 AM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Assuming toxicity is rare is pretty bold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:42 AM |
| – | When men advice of stop doing something they don't realize that means stay away from most men.Eh... Most avg men are rocking red flags. We're told to ignore them precisely bc they aren't exclusive to "bad" men. There's no difference between aggressive behavior coming from a man who's genuinely aggressive and aggressive behavior coming from a man who's insecure, awkward, mimicking some other guy and not really like that, etc. (And there's the fact that men tend to think there are "normal" thresholds. We have to put up with a level of aggression, bc that's just how men are. So those men ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 11:40 AM |
| 3 | Women appreciate compliments, just not from guys who obviously want sex as a thank you.Compliments from straight women are some of the best. They're not trying to get anything, and they get what goes into an outfit/makeup look, so it feels more meaningful. I agree with the advice to compliment something chosen. Bodies are just the luck of the draw. Like, "I love your birthday!" Uh, thanks? I had nothing to do with that. Plus, it avoids any body issues. (I'm not a fan of comments on my hips/butt.) Worth saying that, if he's pursuing aggressively or indiscriminately, they might not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 10:58 AM |
| – | Limit your options for better dating resultsNot the point. "I have no options at all rn," and, "I've narrowed down my options and have none left rn," are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsI'll get to the meat here, are we not allowed to take women's words as truth when they say that 99% of men are ugly? If a woman says that she thinks most men are ugly, there's no reason to assume she's lying. She doesn't speak for all women. Nor is she necessarily talking about appearance. That women MUST find their partner physically attractive in order to be an option? I hear that men need to be good ppl to be an option far more often than that they need to have a certain look... Again, "ugly"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsYou don't seem interested in pushing back on it in a meaningful way. Saying that it's subjective and more complicated than appearance is pushing back. I won't add flattery and repetition, bc I don't need to. The only ppl who need that kind of hand-holding are kids, and they get it from their moms. We're all adults here. we are fine with women wanting what they are attracted too I don't believe that's true at all. Calling women liars when they discuss what they find attractive and demanding that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsno matter how much you improve it doesn’t “get” you a lover There's no reason for anyone to think that's the case. We all learn early that we can't force anyone to be our friend, right? And men are reminded that it's not transactional and they aren't guaranteed a partner. Those things make it very apparent that there are no shortcuts or magic moves. I prefer to use the phrasing, "it's almost entirely out of your control, but that can maximize your chances if an opportunity arises." But a man who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsempathy failure Nope. Empathy and coddling aren't the same thing. We do have to draw a line, so we don't end up trying to gentle parent other adults. The, "we all feel so bad, come tell us we're handsome and any girl would be lucky to have us," vibe is a good indication it's getting too close to that. none of what I said is wallowing. It absolutely is. It's a fact that a lot of women will tell you to your face that most men are ugly on the internet A handful will, sure. Presenting it as a univer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsDude. The point of my comment was that men who are disqualifying X women are already narrowing down their options. So the idea that it can't be done is silly. It's already being done. Your comments here are wallowy, miserable and have the appearance of fishing for reassurance. Women all hate men's faces and it's so sad and there's no point... If you're an adult and you think that, I guess go cry? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 06:11 PM |
| – | Limit your options for better dating resultsDoesn't make them not an option. The point is that men who exclude some women are already being selective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsat what point of improvement do you become attractive Brushing my teeth gives me an edge in interviews, as compared to the version of me who doesn't do it. If I don't brush my teeth, and I'm bombing interviews, and I ask you what to do, you're prob gonna recommend I brush my teeth. Good advice overall, and good advice for interviews. Now I'm gonna call you up. "Why do I have to keep brushing my teeth every day? This is exhausting. How many times do I have to keep doing it? When does the job mate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 05:31 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsPhysically conventionally attractive ≠ sexually attractive. Men look at women like we look at cars on calendars. Women look at men like we look at cars on the lot when we're there to buy. The lines still matter, but not nearly as much as everything else. If you wanna give up, give up. But own that choice. Nobody's making you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 05:18 PM |
| – | Limit your options for better dating resultsYou saying it’s endless is like saying no amount of improvement will make you attractive. It is endless. That's just the reality of it. We never, ever stop changing, growing and learning. Attractiveness is subjective, and not a currency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThere's no potential harmful consequence Ovarian cancer is the most fatal, and second most common, gynecological cancer. It's a matter of life and death. Let's say he's aware I'm asking you, with the caveat that there's no reason to suspect you secretly have ovaries. You are entirely sure that you don't have them. Do you fork over $300-$800 to have those non-existent ovaries checked for cancer? Surely you've already done it, right? You've had your ovaries checked. compound deception is not multi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsBro these metaphors are not aligned with reality They are, but only if you live on earth. What we want is “yes” from women, we don’t want compatibility or any other thing. Then your goal is to "get" literally any woman. She's completely disposable as a partner. A man with that goal has an incredible number of options. Doesn't matter what he looks like or who he is. (He's made himself equally disposable as a partner.) There is always a woman who's desperate or broken enough to say yes. It's gonna… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsYou don’t have the luxury as a men to think which women is compatible or not That's like saying you can't afford to check and see what job is being offered instead of applying to every ad you see. You don't have a choice, unless the goal is to waste as much time, energy, money and emotion as possible. The only way to avoid wasting it is to prioritize compatibility. if we don’t, we gotta settle with the one who isn’t compatible. That's not success, my guy. It's very expensive failure. No one ends… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:48 AM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsthey only count if they were going to succeed anyway. If they have a chance of success. That's what an opportunity is. A chance of success. If there's no chance of success, it's not an opportunity. Before the approach happens, most men don't know with certainty whether a woman is compatible, interested, or open to dating them. Again, that's a good reason to avoid cold approach. Or, at least, to try to be smart about their observations. Your brain surgeon analogy doesn't really work because a dro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsAlso I would say do both, whatever it takes, it makes you go upto 6%. Thats how you look at dating, the more chance the better. Not how it works. If he's qualified for 200 job openings out of 1k, and he applies for all 1k positions, he doesn't have a 6% success rate. He has a 5% success rate for 200 of them, and a 0% success rate for the rest. That brings the rate down to .5% per application. (If a visual helps, it's like having a cup with one diamond and 4 beads in it. If you reach in to grab t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsUnfamiliar with metaphors? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/26 12:12 AM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsThe entire issue many men face in dating is that they often don't know where they realistically stand until after they take the shot. A good reason not to use cold approach. Tho there are still quite a few nonverbal and contextual cues. Where you are, what you're doing, what her clothing/jewelry communicate, etc. (But, yeah, cold approach is usually based solely on looks. Which is why I dislike it. Feels like being in a meat market.) The other issue is that your example assumes there are plenty … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 11:42 PM |
| -1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsalready lowering their standards They shouldn't be. That's the whole thing. Say I'm looking for a job. I know it's rough, so I'll consider an application to be a success if I can get called in for an interview. Bc then at least I have a chance to showcase myself. I go to indeed, and I find 100 jobs I'm qualified for, out of 1k listings. I apply to all of those jobs. The Copa Cabana calls me up. I got one interview out of 100 applications, for a success rate of 1%. In an alternate dimension, anot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating results"I've heard a lot of ppl say that most ppl don't check this one box that's part of the constellation of boxes that comprise attraction," is a long way away from, "nobody could be attracted to me, so I give up." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 08:47 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsWhen men say they have no options, they usually mean they have no realistic options they are attracted to, compatible with, or able to build anything with. Yet nobody treats those as real options for women unless there is actual attraction, compatibility, and interest. The entire basis of the idea that women have a bunch of options is that anyone who's open to sex is an option. If it actually means someone who's a compatible and willing potential partner, women's option counts plummet. If women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Limit your options for better dating resultsSo? Our bodies are the most boring thing about us. Certainly not the end-all-be-all of attraction. That would be silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsSo any other metric, regardless of how bad the deal is, he still strives for it. Which is like applying to every job on indeed, from burger flipper to brain surgeon. If he's qualified for 200 job openings out of 1k, and he applies for all 200 of those specific positions, that's 200 opportunities. Let's say his chances of being interviewed are 5% per application. If he decides not to sort, and just applies for 500 random jobs, he's applied to 100 of those positions, and 400 positions he isn't qua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentHow do they know they don't have ovaries? Idk where you are, but every infant is assumed to be endosex unless there are visible differences in their external genitalia. Are you reasonably certain that you don't have ovaries? If you are, would you pay $300-$800 to have your ovaries checked? Why do you think this isn't happening? That doesn't make sense in context. Paternity fraud is happening every day until it is discovered. Paternity isn't established every day. It's established in one event. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 07:29 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsGonna need to see evidence that they've all rejected you before I buy that they've all rejected you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsIt’s more an issue of them not knowing how to talk to women Communication is a skill. useless for most men who are struggling The men OP are referencing are discouraged bc they "don't have enough options," and respond to their emotions by trying to connect with as many women as possible. Which is kinda like applying to every ad on indeed. Switching focus from quantity to quality could be very impactful. My point is that men are already limiting their options in practice, by pretending some women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating results100k, if we remove the estimated proportion of bots and trolls. There are just under 30 million single women who are looking for a relationship in the US. Around 1 million use Tinder at a given time, using the same fake/commercial profile estimates. Given his circumstance, he's looking at finding someone who would be ok dating non-locally (65% of women), aren't afraid of snakes (38%), and have enough interest in fishing to go at least once in a given year (12%). Generously, that's 120k women on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsAnd? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 04:11 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsThere is a man Any N=1 study has to be taken with a grain of salt. If all he did was Tinder, he was eliminating every woman who wasn't using Tinder at the same time he was. That's narrowing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 03:39 PM |
| 0 | Limit your options for better dating resultsAgain, how does, "give up and die," help anyone? Is it authentic advice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:56 PM |
| -1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsDisabled is really a minor part of the population. So it doesn’t really count. Almost 10% of US women of working age have a disability of some kind. Not a minor part of the population. Does count. The homeless population of adult women in the US is about 2% of the total. Sounds small when compared to 10%, but is huge when compared to zero. women don’t pick you How many women have rejected you, out of the population of potential partners in your city? All of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsIf a man does everything he can to improve himself Is he dead? If not, there's always another step. and still see no results of it It's not possible to change oneself and not see any difference. But you might just mean that he's single, so I'll take it as that. It happens. will you tell him "just improve more?" Advice that starts with, "just," is usually unserious. But, yeah, more or less. If someone asks me what they should do, I'm gonna give my best advice. My best advice is always to move for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:45 PM |
| 2 | How good would women be at dating if they had to be men for a year and date women?Info: Does everyone know that the switch is only one yr? Has everyone switched? How does our appearance change? Is reproduction on hold? Do we have our memories? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsthat women supposedly don't have "That person over there isn't doing it, so no one can encourage me to do it," is a childish line of thought. Because that's the core of any dating advice from any of sides/pills? That opportunities will magically arise if you do the right dance moves? Or that there are things you can do to maximize your chances when an opportunity araises? They aren't the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:09 PM |
| -2 | Limit your options for better dating resultsexcept maybe disabled. If they're excluding the disabled, they're narrowing down their options. If they aren't excluding anyone, they have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsI’m including fat, old, ugly, and raising kids So you're hitting the dive bar at 2am, church at 10, McDonald's at 12, daycare pickup at 4, the cat food aisle at 5:30, bingo at 6, the food pantry at 7... and the only women you see there are women who've already rejected you? Homeless and disabled would be universal across both genders so it’s fair to exclude that Not everyone does. (Obv... disabled ppl get married, and I just watched a video on a homeless couple's wedding.) You're narrowing down … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsThat's just regular life. Exactly. It shouldn't be necessary to tell anyone that it's a good idea to focus on being a good, healthy, whole person, but here we are. Many men are woefully stagnant, sometimes actively avoiding important skills, and it shows. "I'm good enough to expect some interest from women" It doesn't work like that. I'm not sure why you'd think it would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:50 PM |
| -1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsNow I learn what I need That's a part of self-development. Congrats! It also includes developing new skills (social, intellectual, practical), healthy routines, strong values, priorities... breaking bad habits, healing past wounds... That's what ppl mean when they say, "self improvement." Becoming the best version of ourselves, one step at a time. Can you see how silly, "there has to be an end," sounds? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:32 PM |
| -1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsAre those men including women who are homeless, fat, old, ugly, parents, disabled, etc? If not, they are already narrowing down their options by excluding them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsMost dudes don't. Are they including women who are homeless, fat, old, ugly, raising kids, disabled, etc? If not, they're already narrowing it down by excluding them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:18 PM |
| -1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsThat must be one exhausting and miserable life then Did you stop learning at graduation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsA lot of men are struggling just to get enough options in the first place. Men who consider themselves to have no options when there are homeless/fat/ugly/old/divorced/single-parenting women in their cities are already narrowing them down. If they're at zero, it's bc they've chosen to eliminate down to zero. That's not a bad thing. But it is disingenuous to pretend that it's not happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:13 PM |
| -2 | Limit your options for better dating resultsYes, self-improvement should have an end somewhere. Nope. It's a lifelong process that never ends, for anyone. That's what life is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:08 PM |
| 3 | Limit your options for better dating resultsAre you counting the divorced women at the bar at 2am? The overweight cat ladies who spend their free time at the library? Single moms? Homeless women? Middle-aged women? If not, you're already doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Limit your options for better dating resultsI hope this is satire of the, "it has to end somewhere," attitude that some men have about self-development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentHe's certain of the paternity Would you pay $300-$800 to have your ovaries checked if you don't have any suspicion that you have any? unintentional discovery Is a completely separate discussion. John and Jane only fit the OP if John is insisting on a paternity test and Jane feels mistrusted as a result. If it were a different type of fraud, say financial, and John was aware of it, knew there were preventative options to protect him but chose not to use them, society would see him as irresponsibl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/26 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentto evacuate at speed, protecting yourself from imminent danger. Evacuating today prevents him from punching you tomorrow, hopefully. That's arguably protective. Having a go bag does not prevent him from punching you tomorrow. Having a go bag solely serves to make evacuating easier and safer. Having a vehicle would also serve to make evacuating easier and safer. We wouldn't say that having a car will protect you from him. That would be silly. You're sticking to your opinion on the purpose of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 05:38 PM |
| 1 | If you think there’s inherent moral injustice in you not getting sex or relationships then you are entitledmaximizing pleasure and happiness of the group. Nope. The foundation of morality is maximizing the survival of the group. The ultimate outcome of violence against an individual is a ripple of dysfunction throughout the group, devaluing past investment, reducing current productivity and social participation, and altering future reproductive efforts. The group becomes weak, and failure more likely. That started applying to us before we stood up. A group that finds violence repulsive and acts to pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThe parents don't get the Narcan to protect them from severe harm enacted by their teen. No. They get it to mitigate the damage if the worse case scenario were to happen. Just like a go bag, which serves to mitigate the immediate burden associated with evacuating one's home. Neither "protect" anyone, in the most direct sense. They don't prevent the bad thing. They just soften the ultimate outcome if it happens. I don't think anyone that had, would describe the potential outcome of unintentional … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 08:33 PM |
| 1 | If you think there’s inherent moral injustice in you not getting sex or relationships then you are entitledThey're just social contracts with the state. The law is, yes. The morality is completely subjective Yes, and no. It's objectively true that killing a 4th grader is bad for the whole group. The resources put into that individual won't be recovered. The generation loses one member's social, economic and reproductive potential. It impacts the productivity and peaceful participation of everyone in the group, to a degree that correlates with the depth of social bonds they had. That interrupts commun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 07:02 PM |
| 3 | If you think there’s inherent moral injustice in you not getting sex or relationships then you are entitledthere is no morality in society Greater morality is a consensus built on group survival and refined over time. Human rights are a good example. We have a list. It starts with, "you have complete non-transferable ownership of your own body," and expands on it logically. (Then there's personal morality, which is frequently based on a philosophy or belief system that isn't functionally universal, and applies to the adherents alone. That's just us self-regulating based on how we see things.) It exis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Women here keep doubting (or feigning ignorance) about the acceptability of virulent misandry in mainstream feminism, so here's a feminist YouTuber/Substacker/Podcaster who advocates forced vasectomies for young boysYes, it was satire. A lot of ppl just can't recognize satire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThe catalyst to leave the relationship is discovering the go bag Which would be like the kid finding the Narcan. If they wanna move out over it, and they legally can, then that's their choice. Still an appropriate measure to take. The precautions, making it difficult to be victimized is the equivalence of the go bag and DNA test. The test isn't preventative. It's diagnostic. The information obtained is helpful if Junior has a sudden onset of symptoms that could be a genetic condition. In that ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentIn what way mistrusted? In the emergency preparedness scenario, they might feel offended that their parent doesn't believe they'll never make a bad choice. In the testing scenario, there's some level of suspicion inspiring the insistence on the test, which they might feel is inappropriate. trusts them completely, It's not about a lack of trust. It's about emergency preparedness. Again, like the Narcan. Doesn't mean they believe the teen is a horrible kid who is def lying and will def OD. (Or tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Where are all the straight women!?"Straight" means a person experiences sexual and romantic attraction toward a single gender that isn't their own. That's it. If both of those things describe you, you're straight. You don't have to pass a background check or an interrogation from the thought police. Very, "I need a real vegan, not these poseurs who tried eggs once or wonder what it would be like to have real ice cream, bc it's not enough to just meet the definition," vibes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThe teen would be the infant deceived by the mother. No. The teen would be the other adult who feels mistrusted. The entire reason the two are juxtaposed in the OP is that both have one party taking action, while the other party feels like the action is proof of mistrust. Party A does X, for reason Y, and Party B could feel offense. Party A (the parents) does X (obtains Narcan to keep in the house), for reason Y (emergency preparedness based on statistical likelihood) and Party B (the teen) coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/26 11:36 PM |
| 3 | 🔵BP/Feminists can't get their story straight about whether men's attractiveness is innate (looks) or built (wealth+status+looks)Obligatory "not a hive mind"... Pretty sure we aren't on the same page of what attraction is, and where it matters, in the context of dating/relationships. If we're just looking at pictures, and I ask, "do you like this car?" you're gonna answer solely based on what it looks like. If we're gonna go drive a rental car on a track, for fun, and I ask, "do you like this car?" you're gonna answer based on whether the driving features sound fun. If we're gonna go test drive some cars with the idea tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 02:11 PM |
| 7 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.people you’ve just met. If the goal is a ONS, then yes, those convos need to take place asap. There's space between "strangers" and "serious," in which ppl looking for a relationship need to have those convos. If you aren't grown enough to ask if someone's into butt stuff, you aren't grown enough to see them naked. If you need time to ease into one, the other is on hold until then. Them's the breaks. spin such bizarre scenarios out of a single finger Nonconsensual penetration is what it is. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 07:03 PM |
| – | Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone elseThen let's look at some of the things that are disproportionately dangerous for women in terms of physical safety, medical risk, and long-term economic well-being: dating, sex, marriage, having kids, assuming traditional gender roles, drinking alcohol (at all, but esp away from home), traveling, starting a business, running for office, working in a gender-nonconforming industry, and taking medications. Women who do those things despite the risk, with the intent of benefiting themselves and other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 06:35 PM |
| 8 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it."You have to let me try to penetrate women nonconsensually, and idc if I hurt her, bc I'm shy, and I'm the one who matters." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 05:39 PM |
| – | Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone elseWhat would you define as courageous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:22 PM |
| – | Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone elseWould you not consider it to be courageous to voluntarily accept risk for the benefit of yourself and others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 04:05 PM |
| 9 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.End of relationship. Not bc I'm not into it. You didn't have my consent. (That's enough to stop. Right there.) I wasn't able to prep. I wasn't relaxed. I know you aren't using lubricant. Who knows what your fingers/nails are like. And we don't have any safety precautions set up. I get that porn doesn't show the prep or acknowledge the risk, but that's bc it's fiction. Doing it wrong puts that person at risk for scars (which can cause permanent pain and tightness), infection, vascular damage, fis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 03:53 PM |
| 8 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.They should be had before things get serious. Just like there should be conversations about kids, religion, politics, role expectations... all the stuff that's potentially a deal-breaker. In the example of edge play, it really cannot be avoided. Nothing kills the mood like needing to get to the ER. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:53 PM |
| – | Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone elseWould take bravery to consider that women are also courageous, even if it looks different in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:43 PM |
| – | Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone elsethey’ve never needed to be courageous Hard disagree. I believe that men frequently see courage as an event. Women's courage is frequently hidden behind the mundane and taken for granted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:41 PM |
| – | Any dating problem attributable to a lack of bravery must be blamed on the person showing cowardice, not anyone elseTakes bravery to consider that the person being blamed for your issue may not be to blame. Sounds like it's not a strong suit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:22 PM |
| 12 | If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it.If taking about it is too uncomfortable, doing it isn't on the table. Esp edgeplay like anal. Preferences and interests come out naturally with sexual convos and sexting. For a lot of things, they can get away with just that. I wouldn't recommend it, bc I think everyone deserves preparation. But ppl will do it, and it usually prob won't be an issue. For anything more complex, there def needs to be a separate conversation. And sometimes it looks like that. And it's awesome. Nobody's playing games… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/26 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentthe examples where there was no suspicion Aren't part of the OP. The entire premise of the OP is that the two are equivalent bc someone feels like they aren't trusted. Any examples where someone doesn't feel like they aren't trusted lies outside of the OP and are a separate conversation. In those examples the teen is fully aware of each scenario So are the ppl in OP's examples. She can't feel mistrusted if she doesn't know about the paternity test. He can't feel mistrusted if he doesn't know abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/26 05:42 PM |
| 0 | Men can only access emotional intimacy through a romantic partnerWomen could absolutely make it easier. I agreed, and still agree obv, that toxic masculinity has to be uprooted and the coming generations given what they need and deserve. What I commented on is specifically the self-development process. Women cannot unlearn, learn, process and practice for men. That work can only be done by each individual. This sentiment: "You should have had this figured out by now and it's not my job how to teach you to be a person just because you aren't willing to do it y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 11:20 PM |
| 0 | Men can only access emotional intimacy through a romantic partnerThe way we fix this is to stop stunting our boys and reach out a hand to them instead of saying things like "You should have had this figured out by now and it's not my job how to teach you to be a person just because you aren't willing to do it yourself" I can see where you're coming from. And I def agree that being kind and educating kids is so important. Can we also acknowledge that women cannot make it any easier? It's hard. We all know it's hard. There's nothing women can do to pave the way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 09:54 PM |
| 3 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography."The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Hamlet, Act III, Scene II, William Shakespeare, circa 1600. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:53 PM |
| 1 | How and when does a woman create a "type"?If the women in your life were completely terrible to you, you don't think you'd look for someone different from them? If your first crushes were on characters in media, you don't think they'd have an impact on you, even if they're different from the women around you? If you already think you know the answer and are only looking for confirmation, you could be honest in the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:47 PM |
| 4 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.I didn't list searches... The data I used is a ranking of total views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:45 PM |
| 3 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.I didn't list search terms... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentdo the quick paternity test Which I literally said is just as appropriate. It's bizarre that you're so invested when I agree that the investigative measure you're set on defending is fine. factually wrong Your data is fun! And it comes from murder-suicides, a separate phenomenon, and therefore doesn't include the benefit of input from convicted murderers. Different sources regarding different actions. The point of those nonprofits is that the hard part is two-fold, building a new life (similar t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 01:43 PM |
| 2 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.I worked a 900# for a while, but nothing too wild. Idk that I could. I love that it's available work, for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 11:49 PM |
| 4 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.Jfc I am in the wrong business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 11:27 PM |
| 6 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.If I started there, could I call it the Early Bird Special rate? (≧▽≦) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 11:20 PM |
| 4 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.RIP to my search history, but apparently ppl pay $200/hr for that kinda thing. If peepaw wants to pay my bills, I could prob learn... lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 10:22 PM |
| 5 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.Idk, I've never been asked... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 10:13 PM |
| 3 | There's a difference between "Women Are Wonderful" bias and "Women should be wonderful to me" bias.It does suck. I'm sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 10:13 PM |
| 53 | I am pretty sure the women have a misunderstanding about pornography.The most viewed categories (by total view counts) are Milfs, Anal, Japanese, Lesbian, Mature, Big Ass, Ebony, Massage, BBW and Hardcore. So, prob a lot of men looking around in those categories... (Today I learned that boomers are 36% more likely to search "strap on," and idk what to do with that info.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 10:00 PM |
| – | The Debate Around "Toxic Masculinity" is Trapping Men Between Two Unhealthy ChoicesStuffing emotions down isn't control. It's just fear of facing them. If men had a handle on their emotional and mental health, we wouldn't be here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThat the law allows you to even bring your challenge and not have it get instantly thrown out is just the first hurdle. The fact that it isn't easy - tho proven paternity fraud may be the easiest case to bring - doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This isn't a sign because this is normal to happen on its own. It always starts out "normal." Men who never escalate frequently act in exactly the same way that men who escalate do. Tolerating it is expected. Doesn't mean it's not disturbing. Just means we'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 05:56 PM |
| 1 | How and when does a woman create a "type"?Not everyone associates the men in their lives with trust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 05:03 PM |
| 4 | How and when does a woman create a "type"?Childhood. A lot of us develop our "type" in childhood. Mine is a combination of the kind of men I grew up around and the kind of men I got my first crushes on. It's not really conscious. It just happens. I know other women have had the same experience, and I'd hazard that's the deal with almost all of us. It's not limiting, ime. I like looking at men who are my type. I like seeing them in movies and books. But I've only been with one man who fit, and I'm not disappointed. I don't wish my partne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 02:05 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.does not matter Of course it does. That's like saying it doesn't matter if you drink water or bleach, since they're both clear. I'd argue that the first type is an impossible standard. That's silly. Being a healthy person isn't an impossible standard. Ppl pull it off all the time. Wallowing in dysfunction and not being miserable is what's impossible. The idea that women must be partnered to be perceived as positive is completely absent on social media. Have some conversations with women who choo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 11:06 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.traditional masculinity The issue is toxicity. Eg. "Stoicism" is fine when it means that a man has emotional intelligence, can regulate his feelings in tough situations, processes in healthy ways, and moves forward. Not so much when it means stuffing emotions down until they pour out behind closed doors, turning into unhealthy coping mechanisms, self-punishment and shame that only compound the issue. The first kind is awesome. It's understated, private and controlled, for the ppl who are into th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 08:17 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.by and large virulent racists Yep. That's why critical thought is important. The first men who showed support for women's rights were only doing it to make the livestock shut up. Doesn't mean things would be better if they didn't, or that every man who's ever supported women has done it for the same reason. If you're giving a reason why they were exempted from it? I'm saying that's why there was less overt violence than there could've been, and more overt violence when the women involved were mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 06:56 PM |
| 2 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.pregnancy is another person Who has taken up residence inside of someone else's body. Your body isn't an apartment building. Just bc someone is inside of it doesn't mean you have to allow them to stay. You have the right to choose who gets to use your organs and blood, how, and for how long. If you aren't ok with the way the eviction process works rn, that's fair. Push to fund the development of placental support tech, artificial incubation, and transplantation. (See if we can manage the process… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 06:27 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.men and women generally seek and reward those things. Men have been shown to judge one another quicker and more harshly for failing to meet masculine stereotypes than women. Men seek the validation of other men much more than they do the validation of women. (Which makes sense, bc the idea of impressing women directly is fairly new. For a long time, you had to impress her dad or another man in charge, and then you'd be handed a woman. Had nothing to do with her.) Importantly... Men didn't reward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.it takes everyone Me choosing to go to the Dr doesn't take everyone. Just me. Why do men need women to cheerlead/force/bribe/whatever? No you don't It's incredibly misandrist to reject what other men share about themselves. You don't know them better than they do. We're talking about actual data collected directly from men. Society coddles you Is that what it is when they make bedazzled pepper spray, so women can be held accountable for the choices of men without sacrificing style? Not everyone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:16 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.That goal post just keeps moving! Did you ever think why that didn't happen, when it did happen in all other counter cultural movements. Whiteness. White women have racial privilege in the US, just like most places. Worth saying that feminism is an integral part of every other movement that includes women. Feminism is the reason men haven't had to fight for equity wrt race, ethnicity, sexuality, ability, etc, all by themselves. How far do you think any civil rights movement would get if women ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 03:42 PM |
| 2 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.The idea that bodily autonomy allows you to end another life is not something granted to men. Of course it is. If someone placed an ectopic pregnancy on your liver, you would not be strapped down and forced to carry while a woman received termination care in the next room. If you feel left out, you can always remember that someone in the US dies every 90 mins in defense of your bodily autonomy. Not just dies, but suffers. They experience their own death with a fully functioning brain, the emotio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:56 PM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Yes. Yes, you believe that the last time men harmed disobedient women or girls was several hundred yrs ago? Again, name a single feminist campaigner imprisoned or killed for her activism? The Night of Terror in Virginia is prob the most well-known violent event (that wasn't intersectional) in the US. Margaret Sanger is among the most well-known American feminists, and she was arrested repeatedly. There were some fairly high-profile arrests for protesting Kavanaugh's confirmation. Marcy Rheintgen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 04:29 AM |
| 3 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Men have invented the vast majority of every product. You're funny. But go off, king. As long as you feel super special, based solely on the accident of your birth. faced no personal consequences for their activism That's such a relief. When do you think men stopped abusing, SAing, arresting, exiling and murdering women and girls to punish them for not being obedient? It would have to be before any progress was made, so... back when women were glorified livestock in most of the world? Men just w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:48 AM |
| 5 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the hypocrisy you're showcasing by continuing to use your devices. I wish you had credibility... Men deserve better representation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 01:28 AM |
| 1 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Nope. Good try, tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:55 AM |
| 4 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Men suddenly became smart enough to recognize women as human beings and to take advantage of their sociopolitical and economic potential? (But not competent enough to fix the baseline, or to teach future generations of men to not screw it up...) All on their own, for no reason, just woke up smarter? Seems like you got your history from some podcast bros and FB infographics. Which is ironic, bc that's only possible bc of Ada Lovelace, Hedwig Keisler, Grace Hopper, Frances Holberton, Milly Koss, P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 12:53 AM |
| 2 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.throwing away the expectation of masculinity is always a negative to both genders Nope. It's all about social roles and behaviors, and plenty of ppl naturally fill various niches in a given community. Nothing topples when we stop forcing it on ppl. Besides, masculinity isn't a problem. Dysfunctional stereotypes about masculinity are a problem. Not the same thing at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 09:19 PM |
| 1 | The Debate Around "Toxic Masculinity" is Trapping Men Between Two Unhealthy ChoicesAre you saying they enjoy emotional constipation, or that their mental and emotional health is in tatters for fun? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 09:17 PM |
| 6 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.We expect the same amount of support in fixing our issues that we gave to the ladies toward fixing theirs So... to be an active barrier to your lives, then giving an attaboy when you've already done the hardest work, and pretending we did it? My apologies, but we're already doing more than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 09:14 PM |
| 8 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Easier said than done. Everything worth doing is easier said than done. It's central to the human experience. We ask men why they do and don't do things. We know why they have weaker ethical standards - it doesn't feel as good as focusing on winning rather than doing the right thing. We know why they don't reject toxic stereotypes, build social networks, and take care of their bodies and minds - it's uncomfortable. We know why they don't involve themselves in society to the degree women do - it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 05:28 PM |
| 8 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Right because women don't rely on men for emotional support Do you not understand how demographic trends work? Not every individual fits the trend. The trend isn't confined with hard lines. And it still matters. Women, as a whole, do not rely entirely on having a partner to fulfill their needs. They build networks of friends and family (and therapists/support groups). Those networks of meaningful connections provide support when there isn't a partner around. Men, as a whole, have much more shall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 05:12 PM |
| 6 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Women: [live well in increasing numbers over time] Men: Why aren't we living well, too? Women: Uhm, do some of what we've been doing, since it's obv working? Men: Omg you're so full of yourselves, just accept that you suck forever and deserve nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 03:52 PM |
| 6 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Oops! lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 01:49 PM |
| – | In a bodyswap, who would you choose? Who would you want her to choose?His mind. That's the part I love, trust, respect, enjoy being with, and am turned on by. The rest is the suit that the person I'm with is wearing. Not saying there wouldn't be an adjustment - I've been with my partners for 20 and 5 yrs, respectively - but we can adapt to body changes, just like we have before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 01:46 PM |
| 23 | The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.Got me, too. I was hoping for something with substance. Something about building meaningful social networks, so being single doesn't mean never having their emotional needs met... rejecting women who reject them while maintaining dignity... not waiting for someone else to fix their mental and emotional health... doing what it takes to better themselves, esp when it's hard and uncomfortable... taking pride in being good ppl and living well, regardless of circumstance... pushing body neutrality an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 01:39 PM |
| 1 | The Debate Around "Toxic Masculinity" is Trapping Men Between Two Unhealthy Choicesthe confusion around toxic masculinity has given open license for anything a man does to be labeled "toxic", including defending himself against accusations of being toxic. A good place to start would be understanding that being affected by toxic masculinity doesn't make a person inherently toxic. To have productive conversations, we have to separate ourselves from our thoughts and actions, to understand that we absorb what we marinate in - like it or not - and to regulate our emotions around th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentit sucks for the child even if not-bio-dad doesn't bail I agree. Just like it sucks to grieve any kind of loss, even with family. It def still matters if the other ppl who are grieving push them away. a good faith effort, which I guess you're saying most don't or wouldn't make Yep. I'm also skeptical of the argument that men who are upset about being deceived in this way only care that the child doesn't share their DNA The most common narrative is resentment over having wasted time/money on the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/26 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThe deception happening is infidelity (assuming that's the cause of the inconsistency). The child isn't biologically related to him. Still the same person. Framing the relationship between them as a trick devalues it. And it's the segue into dropping the kid - which is what most affected men do. It isn't illegal, obv. And it doesn't change her culpability at all. It's also difficult to reconcile with concern for the child. (Not only did they just find out mom cheated, but now dad's bailed, so th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 08:43 PM |
| 2 | The Debate Around "Toxic Masculinity" is Trapping Men Between Two Unhealthy ChoicesColloquially, I think the best way to communicate what's meant by toxic masculinity is, "the pressure to conform to harmful stereotypes about manhood." I think the issue of confusion boils down in many, if not most, cases to a refusal to look it up. It's like "privilege" in that way. It's hard to find an avg man who thinks nobody is hurt by the idea that men aren't allowed to have emotions (outside of angry and horny) or to cry. It's among the biggest complaints about men's socialization. That's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentI don't think there is any state where you can wait until 18 if you're married to the woman and/or taking an active role in the kid's life. The moment you're thinking about taking on a parental role or have presumed paternity, you typically have quite a narrow window. You may be thinking of the type of deestablishment that's done without a filing. That has a 60-ish day window. You can still file with the court system. Most states' statute of limitations goes by the kid's age. A few are a set num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentAre you taking into account the situations where the presumed father has no reason to believe that something needs to be addressed, but it does? Again, the entire reason OP has for equating a go bag to a paternity test is that they both could make the other person feel like they aren't trusted. The fact that he's demanding it is the part that can make her feel like he doesn't trust her. Instances in which he doesn't initiate a test don't have that aspect. tricked into loving a child Yeah, that k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 05:27 PM |
| 9 | The bare minimum is fine. Women just romanticize codependency and anxious attachmentI disagree that it's a single-gender issue. As a whole, men are incredibly dependent on women, and it manifests in codependent behavior quite often. Kids have long been fed the narrative that The One will be their everything, and they will be The One's everything. Starting with that expectation is being set up for failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/26 12:31 AM |
| 3 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentIf you're only looking at family court data, the victims being in infancy, don't experience the effects of the fraud the way those in adolescence or adulthood do, triggering depression, suicidal ideation, familial relationships destroyed, many severing ties with the mother due to feelings of betrayal and anger. Do you see a lot of cases of men demanding paternity tests bc they're concerned for the wellbeing of the child involved? What we're discussing are paternity tests initiated by men who've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentmen have a narrow window to contest paternity Where do you live that has a narrow window? I believe the shortest deadline to file a deestablishment affidavit in the US is in Oregon - 1 yr after discovery of the mistake/fraud. Most are until the kid turns 18, or longer. you can leave if a relationship becomes abusive at any time That's what a go bag is for. To be able to leave at any time, without prolonging the process or being forced to run errands right after. (Expensive, but also unsafe to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 05:49 PM |
| 0 | The manospheres biggest lieMature means middle-aged or older. You'll see anything from 30 to 80 in a search. Brute numbers on searches aren't released. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Go bag and DNA tests are equivalentThe prevalence, type and impact of the two aren't equivalent. One is a diagnostic measure, to see if an offense has occurred. The other is a form of insurance to protect oneself if an offense occurs. One is a rare occurrence (up to 4% of births involve fraudulent paternity discovery) and one is not (around 20% of relationships are physically abusive). Both have significant impact, but the difference in rates of lasting psychological harm is not equal (60% vs 84%). I don't think it's a solid comp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 01:45 PM |
| 2 | What is the point of dating men if they will always prefer younger women?We just have to use our psychic powers and only date the guys who "aren't like other men." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/26 11:40 AM |
| – | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?But for some reason we have decided they men projecting male fantasies on women is horrible and sexist and misogynistic, while women projecting their fantasies on men is totally viable and men just have to step up to deserve being wanted. I disagree that it's appropriate for anyone to project their fantasies onto anyone else. We all have to be fair, realistic and autonomous. But I do feel like more ppl are looking for imperfect, real-world versions of the things they find appealing than a 1:1 re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 08:52 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipentitled to a relationship Entitled to know. That's it. If she's using you for free meals, it is unethical not to tell you. If you're using her for sex, it's unethical not to tell her. Jfc just determined to make lying ok for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 06:33 PM |
| 1 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsApps do not "allow" scammers to utilize bots to prey on their clientele. The long-term model for crappy dating apps is to get men to buy premium. That's it. Don't need a bunch of women to convince them, just to plant the idea that The One is behind the paywall. Depending on the scam, women can be more vulnerable than men. If I were gonna try to get someone to send me money, I'd look for lonely women. They're less likely to identify a lie. They rely more heavily on nonverbal cues, which are bypas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipeven if he doesn't bottom, you are adding the "chance of contracting while doing the same activity" part and changing the claim That's not changing the claim. Your claim is that you have to disclose whether you're bi - even if you disclose your STI status and current exposures - bc it makes you more likely to have contracted an STI. It is not true that just being bi increases the chances of contracting an STI. Receiving unprotected pia does. That doesn't describe all bi men, and it does describe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 05:55 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipJust like you can reasonably assume a bisexual man is more likely to have an STI Sure. If he bottoms. If not, his chances of contracting an STI are the same as yours, while doing the same activity. I said that it doesn't mean it ONLY applies to the men that bottom No, you said that, bc bi men aren't all solely bottoms, it can't have anything to do with their specific activity preferences. All bi men are not at the same increased risk. It's not "being bi" that increases the risk. It's receiving p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:26 PM |
| 2 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsMen overestimate how decent they are. I've never met a man with poor character who knew he had poor character. Everyone thinks they're decent enough. If it helps, the trend projection is that around 80% of today's young men will have been married at least once by 45, despite the fact that almost 60% of single zoomers are intentionally single rn. Ppl are just marrying later. (Later marriage is associated with lower divorce rates and higher satisfaction, so that's a good thing, if you ask me.) The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 10:53 AM |
| 7 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingssingle, pleasant men who are objectively on their level Men greatly overestimate their "objective" appeal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 10:16 AM |
| 2 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsApps don't "allow" bots, etc. Women are just as vulnerable to scams as men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 10:11 AM |
| 2 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsNope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are not nice guysNot men being oblivious to the difference between a genuinely nice guy and a Nice Guy™... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 10:06 AM |
| 9 | If the orgasm gap wasn’t a thing and you orgasmed every single time you slept with someone, would you increase your casual encounters more?Nope. Risk/reward ratio is too high. Plus, good sex is more than an orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Would you leave this woman?You so nicely illustrate the point. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 02:48 AM |
| 5 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsCompatibility. What everyone ultimately wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 12:50 AM |
| 3 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsThe entitlement is so fun. How dare anyone expect compatibility, when they could have someone incompatible, like me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 12:32 AM |
| 3 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsWeird, bc the bajillion options I'm supposed to have aren't contacting me. Guess I have no options... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:58 PM |
| 6 | Would you leave this woman?Is it just me, or do a lot of guys struggle with hypotheticals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:27 PM |
| 5 | Would you leave this woman?The deal-breaker is, "you did X for him, and now you won't do X for me," not anal specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:24 PM |
| 1 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different things"Feeling invisible in dating refers to the experience of being overlooked, ignored, or perceived as forgettable by potential romantic partners, often despite one’s efforts to connect." Would you agree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:11 PM |
| 5 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different things"You've never had this problem!" "I had this problem." "You didn't have this problem long enough!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 11:02 PM |
| 7 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsWeird how the, "she needs to tear my clothes off like an incredible hulk porno, or she isn't attracted to me, and I won't stoop that low," crowd mingles with the, "if you aren't willing to hop onto anything vaguely man-shaped, your standards are too high, get out," crowd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:59 PM |
| 8 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsMen are less picky when it's just looking at a photo. When personality is taken into account, they rate 90% of women as unattractive. We're all picky when it comes down to the whole package. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:53 PM |
| 0 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsAre y'all hoofing it to the seedy dives at 2am to hit up the thrice-divorced barflies? If not, you've got options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:51 PM |
| 1 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsBeing a guy and being a compatible guy with decent character are not the same thing. Back around to, "you have to give me a chance whether you want to or not." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:49 PM |
| 8 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsMen match without even looking. Might as well be bots. Could be bots for all anyone knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:47 PM |
| 8 | When men and women say they have “no options” it means two completely different thingsNope. Men say they have no options, when there are 55-yr-old barflies who would love a ride home at 2am. They just don't want 'em. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:42 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipBut just because someone doesn't want a relationship doesn't make the individual less likely to be honest It does mean they cannot be reasonably assumed to be. Lying would represent a net gain for them. Aside from a moral compass - obv not something everyone has - there's nothing discouraging them from doing so. It would be naive to think otherwise. letting the woman decide for herself if she wants to trust the bisexual guy Whether she wants to trust him generally doesn't hinge on his sexual ori… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 10:26 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipWhy can't this logic be applied to bisexual men then? Being bisexual doesn't obscure trustworthiness. What things are you assuming he is doing besides dating the woman? As I've said, he's intentionally withholding the fact that he's not her partner and not interested in being her partner, so that she will consent to sex. That's the behavior that's a problem. I would statistically be safer with a heterosexual female Only if you're planning on bottoming. If you are the penetrating party, you still… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 07:05 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipAnd not every guy who doesn't want a relationship is increased risk though Not every stranger would take your $100 and run, but you're not gonna hand money out and see which ones will. Unless there's something to lose, a man cannot be trusted. pretending you are someone else is illegal Pretending to be someone's partner when you aren't easily falls into that category. although it actually does have a higher prevalence than heterosexual females Any person being penetrated by another person's geni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 06:14 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipSo if the bi guy is worried she may like him less since a lot of women don't like bisexual men then it's bad to not disclose this information right? As I said, I think that would be ideal. However, I don't believe it's strictly necessary as long as relevant sexual health and current situation are shared. (I can't imagine being about to do it and too scared to say something like that. Who's trying to have sex with someone they're afraid of?) You are pretending they have to be either a top or bott… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 05:43 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieThe men in the covers aren't short and chubby. They are tall, muscular and lean. I would argue that they are tall because women find tall men more physically attractive Worth saying that the classic "bodice-ripper" covers were drawn by men. Many women do find height/symmetry/whatever to be a bonus. But it's not the end-all-be-all of attraction. I also find it hard to imagine women getting tingles, get aroused and masturbate to the idea of a "care free life with babysitters" instead of fantasisin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 05:19 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipYes I understand that difference Then you shouldn't have an issue understanding why someone's motivations are relavent to consent. there is no reason to focus on men who are solely bottoms other than dishonesty. The reason to focus on them is bc they are the subset that's more at risk for STDs. They're the ones who influence the curve, bc they choose a higher-risk behavior. Ignoring that absolutely is acting like it's magic, bc there's no other medical reason. That is the reason. Does this mean … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 04:51 PM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieI would imagine that women want the billionaire due to being billionaire Billionaires are not good ppl. Nobody wants a partner who's a bad person. Being with a billionaire requires a lot. She has to live up to feminine stereotypes (thin, conventionally attractive, fashionable, in expensive clothing and makeup that takes hrs every day), have kids when it looks good, balance his economic exploitation with charitable endeavors, make him look good by being just intelligent enough and not too much...… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 04:13 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipWell then why wouldn't men in a casual thing just have to say relevant information like their STI test or if they would not want to be involved in their kids life? Idk how you don't understand that the level of trust you can reasonably have in a person is connected to whether or not they have anything to lose by lying. Can you understand the difference between handing $100 to a stranger, who has no reason at all to give it back, and a friend, who will lose your friendship if he doesn't give it b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 03:51 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshiphim trying to make her believe he has a condom on Is the only scenario that fits the discussion. Why didn't you just say that yes they are obligated to share that info before sex? I don't believe he is. He is obligated to share his STI status and whether he's sleeping with other ppl. That covers whether or not he's an STI risk. Whether or not what he's shared can reasonably be trusted has to do with his commitment, not his sexuality. Not to put too fine a point on it, but the transmission of STI… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:51 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest liehow do you square the circle in that women, who often self-proclaim reading novels instead, read about BDSM, stalking/obsession, rape or borderline rape? Erotica is all metaphor. Irl kinks are largely the same. Does that mean that women dont wanna date all of those men in their novels. But it does mean that that those characteristics and acts have a sexual appeal for women? That's the logical conclusion. Yes, insofar as the metaphor reaches. CNC is a good one that's well-studied and very common.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONIf there are large trends that "doing the right things" results in worse outcomes on a population level, then something IS wrong. The idea that "doing the right things" should lead to a certain outcome is the fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:38 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipAgain do you not see the difference Apparently you don't understand the difference between honest and dishonest. I dropped ppl who aren't being dishonest in my first comment, dude. We aren't talking about ppl who aren't being dishonest. Only ppl who are. Ok neither of them brought up a condom and your first thought is the guy did something wrong? "Weren't you wearing one?" tells me that she was under the impression that he was wearing one, and he chose not to. If she agreed to sex on the basis t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?in a relationship Thought the relationship came after the sex, maybe. Not before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?That's not just a performance, it's a Ted talk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:12 AM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipReproductive coercion is considered domestic abuse and tends to be illegal. But not if she doesn't specifically ask him if he's wearing the condom. He can fake it, or "forget," and that's fine. It changes the circumstances about as much as the guy not wanting to be in a relationship. If he's a glorified stranger, he's more likely to lie, bc there's nothing to lose. That means an increased need for multiple forms of barrier protection and STI screening asap. Increased risk of being recorded witho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 02:10 AM |
| 1 | The manospheres biggest lieyour claim that men have no priortizaton of value hierachy on looks I'm not saying individual preferences don't exist, or even that trends don't exist. Only that there's evidence that many men find middle-aged and older women attractive, despite the narrative that they don't. that there is a diffrence between reality and fiction Absolutely. However... We are looking at search terms, rather than incidental watching. Not like they searched for leather bunny suits and it happened to be an older wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers… are y’all so jaded that being liked is not enough?We also like minotaurs! (✿ ♡‿♡) It's all metaphorical. Money is freedom from mundane worries. We really love it when he doesn't reveal it till the end, bc the protagonist is ready to sacrifice for him, but doesn't have to. Also nice when he has no worries, and he takes on her worries. He recognizes his privilege and sacrifices for her, even tho we would expect him to be selfish and shitty. Vampires - the modern ones - used to just be a cover for sexuality. When you aren't allowed to talk a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 11:08 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieI´m not happy with your answer. I acknowledge your unhappiness. My understanding and belief is that many women feel a sense of loss in not experiencing (net postive all things considred) the same beneficial treatment that they recivied before. That's not an issue of perception. It's an issue of treatment. Which is what I said. The way they're treated affects how they feel. Since the way they're treated doesn't match the sexual value of their demographic, one of the two is made up. Ppl tend not t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:40 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipwasn't sexual assault So reproductive coercion is ok now? It's not central to consent and plenty of things matter like the living with mom example.... is that necessary or it's sexual assault now to? Living with mom doesn't change anything about the circumstances of sex. It doesn't increase risk or decrease mitigation. It's just a normal thing (20% of men 25-34 live at home) that she might find concerning when it comes to a relationship. If it did change the circumstances of sex, he would absolu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 09:03 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieDo you disagree that many women around 50 feel invisible based on how they were percivied before? I agree that women feel differently based on how they're treated. However, treatment isn't an accurate measure of preference in this case. It's obv that men do not find women over 30 repulsive. They frequently pretend to, to justify poor treatment, but they go home and ogle those same women. (A bit like homophobes going home to get on grindr.) the mature category is, to my understanding, anywhere fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 08:25 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationship2 just start fooling around and end up having unprotected sex We aren't talking about informed partners. We're talking about one informed partner deliberately keeping another partner uninformed. Deliberately keeping another partner uninformed is dishonest. not willfully saying these things unprompted doesn't make you a dishonest person. It does make you dishonest when it's material to the issue. Not a weird side quirk she might have, but absolutely central to consent. It matters. The fact that y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:51 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieIf you are talking about being in the possession of a child and being their legal guardian for 18 years, plenty of women are forced by their husbands/communities to be mothers when they don't want to be, or they are shamed into thinking they should want it when they don't. Women aren't forced to have custody. I'm not saying everyone is supported in their choices. But it is a choice in the same way that getting a replacement knee is. Once you get there, every choice is imperfect... and it's still… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:34 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lieI don't think pregnancy is always elective like your other two examples, unfortunately. Pregnancy can be nonconsensual. Birth shouldn't be, but can be. Parenthood isn't. That's a choice. Raising a child is elective. I really want to know what I'm asking a woman to put herself through. I hope it goes well. Genuinely. I haven't been in full labor, and the contractions I had were worse than a kidney stone. (Just read a paper on cis men having more natural painkilling chemical production, so maybe i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:12 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipmisleading you and putting you in a dangerous position What, exactly, is wrong with some men that they think having sex is safe? Is it true ignorance, or willful ignorance? This would be close to a man "stealthing" a woman and holds serious consequences..... They're exactly the same thing. Both fall under the same umbrella. Having sex with an acquaintance is not safe, just like having unprotected sex with a partner is not safe. If everyone wants to, that's fine. But everyone has to know, to deci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 07:02 PM |
| 3 | The manospheres biggest liethe wider culture accepts this as a choice for women(which is good btw). We're starting to get there. We aren't there yet. Esp not in cultures that are heavily influenced by religion. Honestly, that's not a bad rate Worse than not having kids, better than knee replacement surgery. The point is that nobody "warns" women who have kids that they might regret it. The majority of ppl still "warn" childfree women that they will, despite data indicating they're at much less risk of regret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:39 PM |
| 2 | The manospheres biggest lie(i.e., when every vestige of their fertility-signaling traits are gone) Fertility decreases long before then. Millennials are already there. Elder zoomers have about 5 yrs before perimenopause starts reaching their demographic. Logically, women are making peace with not having kids at that point, if not before. Nobody wakes up at 60 like, "oh, no, I forgot to have kids." Js... having no sex appeal Speak for your own preferences. 7 of the top 20 porn searches, globally, are for mature women (freq… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:29 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipIt's pretty standard to hide things in the beginning Childhood trauma, whether or not you like turnips... not your ultimate intentions wrt the activities you're asking someone else to do with you. I'm not gonna tell you how often I vacuum my car before asking you to take a ride with me. That's weird. But I do need to tell you where we're going. "I'm hungry, get in, let's go," is fine, as long as we're doing what I'm implying - getting lunch. If my plan is to drive you into the woods and leave yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 06:07 PM |
| 9 | The manospheres biggest lieOld and childfree... Regret is fairly rare. Depending on your favorite study, as little as 4% have regret - almost entirely what's called "whistful regret," which is an interest in what could've been without a legitimate desire for that outcome. Parenthood has a more than 10% regret rate, higher if they're adoptive parents. But we aren't in the habit of questioning whether they're happy. They're doing what they're "supposed to," so the assumption is that any downsides are vastly outweighed. I se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:46 PM |
| 7 | The manospheres biggest liea lot of the reasons I hear for not wanting kids are problems that could be solved, and not a genuine lack of desire to be a parent. If the world changed in huge ways, a lot of us would make different choices. But it hasn't changed in huge ways, and it prob won't. Making peace with the fact that a person isn't willing to make the ideal choice under the circumstances they're in, and building happiness, is just as valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:38 PM |
| 4 | Would you rather us be unconscious?Way, way more than would admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:31 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipThose kind of relationships USE TO be the entire point of dating The vast majority of both women and men see marriage as the ideal outcome to dating. It's still the point. Some ppl choose an alternative path. That's ok, too. Just be honest. the men in these examples aren't just expecting/wanting more without voicing their want They're expecting/wanting more (adding sex to dating) while deliberately hiding the fact that they're an exception to the rule. Deliberately hiding relavent information is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 05:24 PM |
| 3 | How will we convince the next generation to have kids, even though almost none of us want to have any?Anyone who can be convinced to have kids shouldn't have them. Kids deserve parents with solid values and life plans, who've given the decision lots of consideration. We don't convince anyone. We support everyone's decisions. she would’ve been interested in him before age 30 if he was actually attractive to her Young men can be unattractive for a lot of reasons, and become more attractive when they're full adults with life experience. Young women can be unaware of what they ultimately want in lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?No, she has to feel lust for me. Not perform it. How do you know that she feels it unless she's performing? Are you psychic? I don't want sex without connection. Yes, you do. Sex without investment in a relationship is not sex with connection. It's sex before connection, while you're still mulling it over. And if you aren't honest about that, it's not even sex with respect. connect with me. Why should she invest when you not only aren't investing, but aren't telling her that you aren't investing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?take accountability What are women taking accountability for in this situation? What are men taking accountability for? What does that look like on each side? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?Your whole excuse for wanting sex without connection is that you need to know if you're compatible first. Now you don't care if you're compatible, as long as she performs lust for you? Sounds like you just wanna watch her take an unreasonable risk for you while you claim no part in it. I think it's gross, but not everyone will. Just say that's what you want up-front. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.No of course you'd apologize because your actions caused unintended results that you feel bad about. Nope. As soon as it's "unintended," it's not my problem. I'm exiting stage left. Learn to take a joke. Because that's what it's like if the guy sticks around even when he doesn't want to. Cool story, but that's not what we're talking about. He's free to want whatever he wants. If what he wants is sex without connection, and then maybe considering building a connection, he's free to want that. Wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?Thats not my experience at all. All due respect, you need to do it differently. Actually talk about it. It's still not gonna be great, but you should know a lot about one another by then. If you can't talk about sex before having sex, you aren't ready for sex. I will enjoy her Then you don't need to worry about her being compatible with you. Just whether you're compatible with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:58 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipit's definitely not about saying everything that can potentially turn a yes into a no Relationships are the entire point of dating. It's not a small thing. It's a huge thing. What's even the point of lying to get her to say yes? It's not like she won't find out. It's just making it way worse in the end. If it was a deal breaker then, it's still a deal-breaker later, and it's compounded by dishonesty. And you know she's gonna spread the word so other women don't have to learn the hard way. Y'all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.No, effects don't trump intent. That's silly. We are not cars, we are people. There is no insurance lol. So if I play a practical joke on you, and it gets you fired, I don't owe you an apology, bc it's not like I set out to get you fired. You not only have to stop being upset and forgive me immediately, you have to act like it didn't happen moving forward. Or you're in the wrong. (I can't be in the wrong, bc of my intentions.) Sound right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?Women do not all agree that the first time sucks. most of them never give you a second chance I never said everyone agrees it always does... but uh, do you not see the irony in juxtaposing, "it doesn't always suck for her," with, "she usually doesn't do it again"? Thats implied. No, it's not implied that you won't invest until having sex. It makes sense to you. That doesn't mean it makes sense to anyone else. (Makes zero sense to me, unless you're trying to get as many child support arrangements… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/26 01:06 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipIf you have an STD that is potentially dangerous you are obligated to tell them..... An undetectable viral load is considered just as safe as no prior infection. It's important, whether there's increased risk or not. You won't convince me that you'd be cool with your not-girlfriend forgetting to mention her penis. That's less risk. If that's all consent was about, you should be happy. But it's not. well yeah they try and get that That's more. That is escalating the relationship. It's unreasonabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:39 PM |
| 5 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Respectfully, you can take exactly what you've written and say that about women who vent about inability to find a man as well. Yep. If the woman in question is approaching men to "vent," and it's apparent that she's looking for a pity date, she's doing the same thing. I'm sure it happens. But we're specifically talking about men. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.Sex in that context is no more dangerous than sex in any other context. The risks are the same. The mitigation is not. If a stable couple has Bad Thing happen, they are much more prepared to handle it as a unit, with the minimum amount of harm done. Strangers and acquaintances are not. The entirety of the risk to her is shouldered by her. It is not reasonable to expect her to take that lightly. (Nor should he, to be frank.) you can't actually know that was his motivation. Effect trumps intent. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them?assume access to intimate information about what a given couple has, or hasn't, agreed to. You asked what the difference is between a woman using derogatory language to describe her role in their sexual activities, and her bf using derogatory language to describe her role in their sexual activities. The difference is consent. I think most people would say the extent to which intent matters depends on context, and then proceed to disagree about both extent and context. What they're discussing is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:19 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipInformed consent is about not putting people at risk without them knowing, not telling the person everything that could make them not want to sleep with you ffs. No. You're at zero increased risk if Jane has an undetectable HIV viral load, or a penis, or a husband, and if you don't know, you haven't given informed consent. "I thought you'd say no if you knew," is an admission of guilt awareness, not an excuse. She knows what she's doing, she just doesn't care if you consent or not. I have no ide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/26 01:05 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipLol "even if they aren't quite ready yet", sounds like they are planning to fuck some guys they have 0 intention in ever marrying. Yes, bc waiting to get engaged is the exact same thing as seeking out p&ds. if they are then yes I agree that is misleading Glad we agree that it's dishonest. yeah that's going to change a yes to a no Yes! That's how consent works! It's how it's supposed to work. It's the whole point of getting consent in the first place. Jfc If you go home with someone and there are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.Nah it's not necessarily dangerous. Sex is dangerous. It's quite a bit more dangerous for cis women with cis men - anywhere from the clap to, ultimately, loss of life - but it's still not safe for anyone. No such obligation exists, unfortunately. Of course it does. Ethical imperatives are universal. A man can choose to behave unethically... but not to turn around and claim he didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.That's debatable (although I tend to agree it usually works out better if both partners do figure things out beforehand). It's a dangerous activity. Might as well jump out of a plane after letting a stranger pack your parachute bc it's "not a big deal." That's not a smart decision. In any case, there just aren't any guarantees and there are no obligations either. We are all obligated to be honest. He doesn't get to pretend they've begun a relationship when he's actually not invested. She doesn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:48 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipNot really anymore, dating with the intent to eventually get married is not seen as what dating has to be about anymore. 90% of women see marriage as the goal of dating, even if they aren't quite ready yet. 70% of men agree. That's the majority. wait until a relationship begins The ppl we're talking about do believe a relationship has begun. That's the point. She believes he's investing in a relationship, and being intimate with him is part of the progression of that relationship. He is allowing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.People don't have their feelings about this planned out ahead of time, generally. Treating sex flippantly, doing it before getting an idea of where it's headed, isn't smart. Doesn't matter who you are. (Tho I'd argue cis women should be the most aware, bc they have the most to lose.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:12 PM |
| 6 | Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them?When you see women posting tik toks literally celebrating that they "got cracked," it's clear that they don't perceive themselves as humiliated. If their boyfriends say it too, who's to say whether they perceive themselves as performing humiliation? As usual, the difference is consent. If I jokingly call myself a slut, I am consenting to that, obv. If my partner says it, knowing I'm cool with it, I am consenting to that. If my partner says it, not having discussed it with me, I haven't consented… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:10 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipif the woman wants more "More" is the entire point of dating. good on those women. Women should sleep with men without thinking that he's a normal person, but also not sleep with men. Just assuming everyone is a certain way sounds idiotic to me Our entire lives are directed by playing the averages. In the case of this broader topic, the assumption is that she isn't looking for a relationship, and will therefore be fine if he isn't either. The exact opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:05 PM |
| 24 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Your kid is upset bc they haven't gotten a pony yet. They come to you to complain. Not to their peers, to commiserate, but to you - the person who "could fix it if they wanted." They say things like, "I've wanted a pony for so long. I would take such good care of it. It would make me so happy. But no one has given me one. If I never get one, I just don't know what I'll do..." That's obv fishing for a pony. They expect a pony to materialize and fix their feelings. Since that's def not happening, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 04:54 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipThe guy may be worried he is coming off as a fuckboy/shallow If you are the one with the problem make your voice heard and don't just make it the responsibility of everyone else, if you can't even do this then honestly you aren't adult enough to be dating and having sex to begin with. Ding, ding, ding. If he feels bad about what he's trying to do, to the extent that he thinks leading her on is preferable to being honest, he's not ready for sex at all. with how common things like fwbs/situationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 04:41 PM |
| 0 | You are not entitled to a relationshipin that scenario he would be misleading you Which is what a man is doing when he misleads a woman this way. He knows that his intentions aren't the standard, and aren't considerate. But bc he can anticipate that she's unlikely to agree to take a risk for his benefit if he's honest, he chooses to hide those intentions. That is dishonesty. (damn women really hate that 1 lol) Yeah. Men are weirdly the same way about being asked exactly how big their genitals are, knowing the expectation is that the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 04:10 PM |
| 0 | You are not entitled to a relationshipIf you get into a car just making assumptions where you are going you can't cry kidnapping if it goes somewhere else than you assumed Does it make sense for you to assume that, "I'm hungry and it's lunch time, let me come pick you up," means I'm gonna drive you off a cliff? Given that I worded it in a way that reasonably implies lunch, I am intentionally misleading you. That's dishonesty. 2 different things I agree. in this scenario neither is the woman Back to arguing that body count = intentio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled to a relationshipI hate this broad view of informed consent Informed means informed. If you get in my car, thinking we're going to lunch, and I drive off a cliff instead, you didn't consent to be driven off a cliff. You wouldn't have gotten in the car if you'd known that was the plan. That's dishonest of me, and unfair to you. Women deserve the same respect and consideration that you do. unless we are going to include things like women being up-front about their body count or something the woman is also not maki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 02:52 PM |
| 7 | Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ?I get how they went from A to B. Doesn't change anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative.Not being honest about your intentions/circumstances/expectations is lying. Frankly, if he feels he can't be honest with a woman, they have no business having sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 11:35 AM |
| 0 | You are not entitled to a relationshipIt's dishonest to hide one's intentions. Particularly when the risk is so high. It would be equally wrong for her to let you believe she didn't have herpes, a husband, a condom with holes poked in it, etc. Don't forget that consent must be freely given, reversible, informed, enthusiastic, and specific, or it's not consent. Presumably, you don't wanna have sex with someone who hasn't fully consented. So don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 11:27 AM |
| 2 | When will people admit that masturbating to lesbian porn as a woman is extremely gay?Both irrelevant questions. The issue at hand is whether or not enjoying a work of fiction has to define a person's real-life interests or desires. The answer is no. Your personal preferences aren't the "rules" for everyone in your demographic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONYou're flip flopping Nope. on one hand you concede that its an "imagined contract", and on the other you appeal again to just world by saying its "a breach on the part of the universe". You described the imaginary setup as a contract, and you're already mixed up enough, so there's no reason not to use your metaphor. "Do good, get good," fits both the contract you're describing and the just world fallacy. Good things (women) are delivered by the universe to men who do good things (live ethically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 12:27 AM |
| 2 | When will people admit that masturbating to lesbian porn as a woman is extremely gay?entertainment, not something to masturbate to Masturbation is entertainment. It's just fun. It serves no other purpose. If you want something more accurate try imagining a man masturbating to CP. CSEM isn't bad bc it's icky to look at. It's bad bc it's evidence of the abuse of a child. Same reason a snuff film is bad. It's evidence of a murder. A person who isn't appalled by the torture or murder of an actual human being needs help. Both horror films and porn are fiction. They're scripted perfor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONNo, its not, we're not talking about owning women. Not in a legal sense, but definitely a rigid kind of objectification. Zero women agreed to this imagined contract. It's not an agreement between men and women. It's an agreement between men and an outside circumstantial force. The guy presses the right buttons, and the universe positions a woman to be obtained. She's not permitted autonomy. She can't be more willing and still say no. That's not good enough. She must say yes. She isn't violating … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingWomen prefer to call the shots and dictate how a relationship goes. Who calls the shots in pursuit - the pursuer, or the more passive participant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Men need to start leaving women alone.My assertion was that too much attention from men makes women entitled and self centered, which is true. Entitled to what? Physical attraction is what keeps most relationships going If that were the case, changing attraction would be one of the top reasons for divorce. It's not even on the list. And we know that tall/conventionally attractive men divorce at a higher rate than their peers, indicating that sexual attraction to someone's looks is a weaker force within a relationship than matters of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 04:11 PM |
| – | Do you fall in quickly or slowly?It's not immediate, but it doesn't have to take a long time, necessarily. Depends on how long it takes to get an idea of who they are. Imperfect analogy, obv, but it's like getting a new gadget, in that the box is just the box. Sure, it could be cute, but that has nothing to do with what's inside of it. I need to know the traits that matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Men need to start leaving women alone.I never said they do. Your assertion is that women have become entitled - to what, if not the effort you're referencing? This is basically what the post is saying. You attributed meaninglessness to all effort, bc women feel entitled to it. Not bc it is unwanted - we can want what we feel entitled to - and not bc the person giving it is doing so resentfully, but bc there's too much of it going around. You add that it may be considered meaningful if a man is attractive. That reduces a desire for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingA person who holds authority/power over another isn't superior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Men need to start leaving women alone.Women, as a whole, do not expect to be pursued by or receive attention from every man - just the men who wanna pursue them or give attention. It's not the baseline state. It's a state a man can choose to enter into if he wants. It's also a state a woman can choose to enter into if she wants. If she doesn't, it's bc she doesn't want to. A connection with potential for success has both partners engaging in relatively equal measure. Effort is not meaningless in itself. Effort from a person who does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingParaphrased: women hold a position of power that allows them to expect to be pursued exclusively, and losing it is their big fear in dating. Which part did you not mean to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingSocial superiority is what you're claiming women must have. A position of power over others in a social context. Is it not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:48 PM |
| 5 | When will people admit that masturbating to lesbian porn as a woman is extremely gay?If women are aroused by lesbian porn it means they are not straight. Then if a person enjoys horror movies, they must wanna be victimized. Or to victimize others, I suppose... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingOf course it does. If you can't even define what your assumed social superiority includes, how can you assert that it exists, let alone that women want it or are afraid of losing it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:35 PM |
| 1 | How do you think guys should meet new people, and what are the pros/cons of each approach, in your opinion?Men should do what they think is best for them, depending on what they're looking for. I'm an OLD fan, bc it provides the opportunity to share important information up-front. That's an efficient way to remove incompatible ppl from one's dating pool. There's no inherent physical danger in the initial contact stages. And we know it can work - more than half of relationships that began within the last couple of yrs are between ppl who met online. That said, it has to be used well, which is the bigg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingAre you of the opinion that being in less physical danger - as close to the level of physical danger men face as possible - is social superiority? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:15 PM |
| 0 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingHow tf would man pursing more assuage physical risk? No one has said it would. I don't think you're following along. The debate in question is woman wanting the man to pursue him more than she pursues Nope. The debate is that having the preference of being pursued equals social superiority, and that this social superiority is the thing women are most "afraid of." The first half is silly, but it's not necessary to address it, bc women are demonstrably not most "afraid of" losing any kind of assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:12 PM |
| 4 | How do you think guys should meet new people, and what are the pros/cons of each approach, in your opinion?don’t believe women are attracted to a guy if they wouldn’t sleep with him the first day they meet him Sex is not a safe activity. If you won't let me pack your skydiving parachute when we just met, all that tells me is that you aren't an idiot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 02:05 PM |
| 4 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingYou suggested that women are scared of not having some implied social supremacy. Women, as a whole, don't complain about social supremacy. They complain about being expected to take one-sided physical risks without any consideration. Which indicates not only that men are the ones with a measurable form of supremacy, but that the logical way to get to your conclusion is to imagine, "don't expect me to take one-sided physical risks without any consideration," to be a demand for social supremacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Men need to start leaving women alone.Disagree that it works the way you think it does. Love the execution, tho. Please leave women alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:55 PM |
| 6 | When will people admit that masturbating to lesbian porn as a woman is extremely gay?When will ppl admit that watching horror movies means a person wants to be attacked by murderers and monsters irl? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:48 PM |
| 11 | Women are scared of not having the power in datingConsidering that the reason women give for being dissatisfied with the dating scene is physical danger... If I had to guess what a significant number of women are "afraid of," power-wise, it's the vulnerability that dating requires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:46 PM |
| -2 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.Then the number of women you "like" is necessarily low. And the number of men a given woman "likes" is necessarily low. You aren't competing which a bunch of guys. You're only competing with the joy of solitude and a handful of guys who overlap - they're in her pool and she's in their pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:10 PM |
| 1 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.How would you know whether you're compatible or not before dating? I like old for that reason. Weeds out a lot of obv incompatibilities when ppl are honest. Which is prob why most relationships start that way. There's also looking in specific subsets of the population. If you're religious, for example, someone who shares that is more likely to be compatible in values and goals. And avoiding subsets where compatibility is very, very unlikely. If you don't like clubbing on your own, don't look at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:07 PM |
| 9 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.Of course I want to be with someone that I like. Compatibility is about values, goals, lifestyle, relationship expectations, financial plans, everything family-related, religion, politics, sexual needs, hobbies, interests, life stage... not just liking them, but being able to live as partners without unnecessary conflict. The pool of ppl who are compatible is necessarily small. That's fewer ppl to try to impress. And since there's nothing that has to be hidden or faked, and everyone actually tru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:45 PM |
| 3 | If men focus on compatibility, they wouldn’t have to ‘play jester’ and be ‘Dance Monkeys’ on dates.you are compatible because you tolerate them That's not compatibility. It's just pretending incompatibility doesn't matter... when it's the cause of the vast majority of breakups and divorces. Unless that's the goal, selecting without concern for compatibility is setting oneself up for failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:32 PM |
| 3 | Why do women claim they are being used for sex once a man realizes he is incompatible with her?making a relationship Yeah, that's the issue I'd guess they have. Sex is a dangerous activity that most reserve for an existing relationship. If you're saying or implying that you're in a relationship with her, when you're actually just casually dating at that stage, she's not giving informed consent. Be straight with her that you're looking for sex first, and then you might commit. That way she can decide whether she wants to have sex outside of a relationship or not. Is it somehow my fault tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.You're behaving weirdly, and I'm not gonna reply here again. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONfrom women It's not getting something from women. It's getting a woman from the universe/chance. Our society doesn't even agree whether these feminist behaviours/ideals are morally good Being nice and helping ppl aren't "feminist ideals." They're basic ethics. They're included in every belief system. It's weird to be so invested in being seen as logical that you'd try to argue that they aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.Do you write notes in the margin of a book that don't go on that page? It's nonsensical. I did. It still doesn't say what you want it to say. Dunno what to tell you. ¯\(ツ)/¯ Eat your veggies and stay in school, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.You responded to a different comment, my man. You came up with a response, went elsewhere, and then wrote it out. Bizarre behavior. (Comment still doesn't make the argument you're trying to fight, but I don't think you care what it actually says.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.How did you get so confused during your stalking activities that you ended up in a completely different place? lmaoooo I get having a crush, but no DMs pls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/26 12:11 AM |
| 0 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.Nope, bc that would be stupid. I said nothing similar to the argument you're looking for. So you must be lost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 11:55 PM |
| 0 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.Ohhhhh so you intended to reply to someone else who said that nobody minimizes men's mental health issues. And not me. Bc I didn't say that. Hope you find your way to the argument you wanted me to make. Safe travels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 11:51 PM |
| 1 | AI robotic girlfriends, absolute and best path, with almost no draw backs.If it gets that type of men off our backs, fine. They can get whatever girlfriend game they like. Just hope they have staunch limitations and protections in place, since we know programming jumps the fence already. (Also, petition to only have models created based on actual, consenting sex workers, who receive profits from sale/subscription/whatever.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 08:30 PM |
| 0 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. They're extremely mainstream stereotypes that show up in media, casual conversation, and research. Playing dumb is cute, tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?To me this sounds like schizophrenic eugenics with a fascist feminist twist. Sounds like you don't know what those words mean. Me not SA anyone is because I believe it is wrong and it’s weird. This you? When I was young I thought if I’m nice maybe I get a chance - so I didn’t join the other gang members rapin and SA women. [...] Trust me I realise my mistake. Bc that is absolutely not supportive of the idea that you moderate your behavior bc of morality. whatever monkey circus you talk about Wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 03:54 PM |
| 0 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.i have never seen anyone make fun of women for the menopause. Really? Perimenopause - the beginning of hormonal change that lasts around a decade before it advances to menopause - starts as early as 35. You've never seen anyone accuse a woman over 35 of being particularly hormonal as a way of mocking her and dismissing her experiences or needs? You've never seen someone refer to a woman of that age or older as "dried up," or in any other way lesser bc of potential reproductive changes? Or heard … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 03:25 PM |
| – | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?I’ve never SAd anyone in my life You explicitly stated that that's the case only bc you expected to get consent. Otherwise, you would've. When someone tells you who they are, you can believe them. Explain it like I’m a heartless dummy who doesn’t understand the meaning of morality. Complicated monkeys die if don't live in group. Survive if live in group. Group needs to stay together and cooperate. Monkeys have strong social bonds. That means feel good when other monkeys good, feel bad when other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 02:41 PM |
| – | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?I kinda see your point but at the same time what do you want me to do ? Not be an ass to ppl who are already hurting, for no reason other than bitterness and resentment they didn't earn. Maybe try holding other men accountable when the opportunity presents itself. It's what the ppl around you would do if I shot you. They would do what they could to hold me accountable for my actions, and at least not actively try to make it worse for you than it already would be. I mean, you just got shot and yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 01:19 PM |
| 4 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONI rarely see ppl say, "it'll happen," in spaces like this... That's something moms say to try to preserve their kids' feelings. Self-development is the suggestion when ppl ask for advice on what steps to take. There's no guarantee implied. In fact, it's often accompanied by, "you aren't owed," which specifically states it's not a guarantee. If someone insists on seeing a guarantee where one doesn't exist, it's evidence that there's an error in their thinking - the logical fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 11:03 AM |
| 6 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?"We" is everyone who doesn't wanna be pursued by someone who would SA them if he didn't think he had a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Yes it is 100% the woman’s fault. If you consent to hanging out with me, and I shoot you, you consented to being shot. If I'm cool the first 25 times, and shoot you on the 26th, you consented to being shot. If I mention having a gun, and you think I won't shoot you (bc that would be psychotic and I seem fine), and I shoot you, you consented to being shot. If I say I was shot and would never shoot anyone, and you think that makes sense, but then I shoot you, you consented to being shot. If my ex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 09:22 PM |
| 7 | Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness?Good to know we collectively dodged a nuke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:54 PM |
| – | Why can't women just tell men when they're unattractive?Spontaneous comments on my body are unwelcome, and I'm not trying to be the asshole I don't wanna see in the world. Attraction is complex, subjective and flexible. I have 2 special guys, and neither one is my "type." Their bodies turn me on bc they turn me on. So even if I went by my own physical standards, I'd be lying. He's attractive to some section of the population, and maybe even to me if I knew him. Women have been killed for much less. When his bro overhears it, and I don't say the same … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.Every woman who isnt a separatist, and some who are, care. They just don't always express it in the way someone wants, at the time they want it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 07:01 PM |
| 5 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONif you do good, you will be rewarded, as per the laws of the universe or destiny. Ultimately, that's what it is. The "right" things are virtues. Being kind, responsible, respectful, altruistic, polite, patient... They aren't dance steps. They're moral achievements. The expectation is not that women will be more willing. I'm more willing to eat a worm if you offer me money. All that means is that I consider that to be a better deal than doing it for free. Not eating a worm is still the best deal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.men are sad because people laugh at them, women are sad because they get killed Not to put too fine a point on it, but men frequently are talking about emotion and issues of personal motivation, and equating them to immediate/systemic issues. There doesn't seem to be a clear delineation for many men. I frequently see, "men aren't getting degrees," as evidence that men are oppressed and need help. But the data shows that the reason is their own choice. It's not that they're banned, or forced out,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneMen are constantly blamed and demonised for everything and are never helped. Does "everything" include their own choices - what they do and fail to do? When we remove their own choices, what's left? What help is expected, specifically? Men have no standards. Therefore, their attention is meaningless. It can't be listed as a benefit someone is enjoying if it's meaningless. That's like saying someone is privileged if they have pocket lint or something. Nope. Yep. Women live and die single without … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.Triage and realism are necessary, and not all conversations are productive. Not all issues are equal. False equivalence isn't tolerated bc it's inaccurate and unhelpful. Less immediate, less impactful and/or less prevalent issues take a backseat, just like the ER. Doesn't mean they don't all matter. Just means we have limited resources and have to make logical decisions. Issues of personal motivation (I can, but I don't want to) are secondary to systemic issues (I want to, and am trying to, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 05:01 PM |
| – | When is a man too picky or superficial?Please be pickier. I beg of you. Hold out for compatible ppl. Stop settling like you're a silly teen and it's the week before prom. This is real life. Respect yourselves. When is he too superficial? When he doesn't know who she is and doesn't care. The husbands who say they "don't know what to get her," bc they have no clue what her interests are. The guys who have no idea what her values and goals are, and think it's fine, bc they're there for the boobs, not the woman. If you're gonna do that, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:19 PM |
| 0 | Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs.Not all "women's issues" are women's issues. When a kid is getting the crap kicked out of him, that's the bully's issue to fix by not doing it anymore. He's not gonna stop as long as he gets away with it. So the ppl around him need to hold him accountable until he gives up. And not all conversations with men about women's issues are about fixing the issue. Sometimes the issue is what it is, and the problem that needs to be addressed is adjacent. Nobody's gonna "fix" menopause. But they can certa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 04:08 PM |
| – | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?If you want another layer of bullshit, add in polyamory. lmao Then you can get women who think they can break up your primary partnerships to create their own monogamous household. Fortunately, they usually tell on themselves early on, so it never gets to the intimacy stage, ime. It does suck a lot sometimes, depending on how attached I got, but that's between me and some ice cream. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:55 PM |
| 58 | Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATIONThe premise is the "just world" logical fallacy. That ppl who do the right thing get good stuff, and ppl who do the wrong thing get bad stuff. That's not how reality works. It never has been. (Ask the ppl who did everything "right" and were still SAd, laid off, got cancer, etc.) The solution isn't to change reality to fit the error in thinking. It's to change the error in thinking to fit reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Genuine question for all womenWhen men cheat, it's more likely to be with a woman who's also cheating than not. They can bond over misery or whatever, and discretion is more likely bc of mutually assured destruction. Yes, women cheat. Cheating isn't a majority activity. 20% of men and 13% of women cheat. If we add emotional cheating, the gap is narrower, bc women are more likely to do that. It's still not the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours?It would be easier in a way. Handing out fake numbers can backfire if he calls it immediately. But it would be perfect if men just accepted, "no, thank you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneempathy for their problems How do you know whether a person has empathy? What is empathy expected to do for you? thousands of matches with no effort. Men frequently spam all the accounts they can. It's all junk mail. It's not a compliment, it's a waste of time created by disrespectful ppl. Women consider 80% of men to be unattractive When attractiveness includes personality (like it does for most women), the data indicates men find 85-90% of women unattractive. When it comes to actual partnershi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being alonePolicies which gets ignored and no one in a position of power who can actually makes those policies real will ever listen too. You must not be talking about the US. Under the current administration, they're taking all the hits they can get. In the last run, men's rights activists directly influenced the dept of education's Title IX decisions... which were fixed and are now coming back. Last yr, they ordered prisons to ignore the Prison Rape Elimination Act. Started rolling back protections to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Nice guys should accept being aloneIrrelevant No, it's not. it's a small percentage of elites Being disadvantaged in one way doesn't mean being disadvantaged in all ways. You've got class, race, color, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, religion, disability, age, survivorship, citizenship, area of work, language, fertility, education, weight, a ton of other individual and generational areas, and even some circumstantial variants. The chances of having privilege in all of them is functionally nil. It's called intersectionality. Disadva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 10:56 PM |
| 0 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?That's not how sexuality works... They're weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneAs a woman, you have a huge amount of privilege The dominant demographic would be the one that makes up the majority of the govt, holds the majority of management positions and high-pay positions, has the controlling share of the media, holds the majority of community wealth, has baseline access to the majority of resources, faces lower risk than peer demographics more often than not, and enjoys a historically-backed position of social dominance. That said, every person has privilege in some are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneOur wellbeing is affected when the complaining includes shameless, credible support of harm to women. That's not, "boo hoo, I feel bad." It's a threat to public safety. Kinda like racism. If someone wants to be a miserable bigot in their head and their home, fine. We can't force them to take care of themselves. Just can't act on it without any consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneattempt to shame Not an attempt to shame. Just a common example of someone lashing out bc they have poor emotional regulation. We all know what it's like to see something from the outside. forcing them to calm dawn and be quiet only makes the matter worse That's what emotional intelligence is for. We start when they're toddlers and can begin to moderate their own behavior. No force involved. The adult in the equation consistently guides healthy habits, until the kid is able to recognize what the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:00 PM |
| – | CMV: Traditional "gentleman" gestures are mostly performative and not indicative of authenticityThe point of manners, for us regular folk, has always been to avoid making life harder for others. Grandpa opened the door for Grandma bc she was wrangling a dress and wearing heels, and doing that made it easier for her to get up without snagging anything or falling. He walked on the street side bc there was a good chance they'd be splattered with a little road nastiness when someone went by and, while his clothes were made to be laundered, hers were more decorative and more likely to be actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:39 PM |
| 0 | Nice guys should accept being aloneLash out or fester is a false dichotomy. Not being able to handle what's happening in our lives is part of the standard human experience. We've figured out lots of ways to get better at handling things, and to share the load when we need to. Men have baseline access. If a person isn't willing to take advantage of their resources, screaming can only draw attention to their choice. A kid having a tantrum in the store is showing us that they don't have the ability to handle their emotions. Same typ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:55 PM |
| 9 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?According to the data, men are more likely to do it than women are. But every group has ppl who do it. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. Just need to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:35 PM |
| 0 | Nice guys should accept being aloneThat's how it is now. Would be nicer for everyone if they learned how to live as adults, but it can't be forced. If they're determined to be miserable, they will be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Nice guys should accept being aloneWho decided it was what it is anyway? Material reality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneOh no, not meaningless insults from someone who doesn't deserve my respect. Whatever shall I do if a bad person doesn't think I'm the bee's knees? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:28 PM |
| 4 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?Not sure what adding the quotes is supposed to mean. Ppl have sex without attraction all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys should accept being aloneAh, yes, the narcissistic false dichotomy. Put out, or you hate me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 03:11 PM |
| 4 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?I hope so. I don't wish conflict on other ppl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 01:49 PM |
| 8 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?Bc they haven't had issues with straight women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 01:42 PM |
| 16 | Question for lesbian/bi women of reddit. What was your "EUREKA" moment when you start dating other women did you notice that you finally start understanding mens issues?The issue with dating women is being used for sex by straight women, and I wish I was kidding. They can say they want something that matters, and sometimes I'll fall for it, bc I'm a silly goose. Either they wanna "experiment," or they wanna try to get an ex back. (Apparently the fact that she's with a woman now makes him think coming back could get him a threesome or something? Idk.) The experimenting wouldn't even be an issue. I'm fairly stone, and I've done it before. But I need to be informe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.Lack of consideration - displayed in shaming others for not prioritizing bangability - is a cancer on society. Maybe if we could reach a place where men don't throw tantrums at criticism, they could improve that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:58 PM |
| 0 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.we better be careful not to hurt their feelings Hurting ppl's feelings unnecessarily is antisocial behavior. Maybe those ppl should be ousted from the community for not adapting to normal life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:33 PM |
| – | You don’t have to admit you have a sense of entitlement to have a sense of entitlementIt’s literally like arguing that non monogamy is wrong. No, it's not. It's like saying that marrying on the assumption that they'll always be your hiking buddy is setting yourself up for failure, bc it's not realistic. Eventually, one of you will hike less, or not at all. Best to accept that, make sure the relationship isn't based on that, and make a plan for how to handle it when it happens. Otherwise, when it happens, the relationship will end. And then the next one will go thru a similar arc,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:30 PM |
| -2 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.Tell me you don't know how human bodies work. lmao too lazy And there's the real motivation coming out. It's an insult, not assistance. They really oughta go back to teaching manners. Some of these kids don't know the difference between, "become sexually appealing to me," and, "don't hurt that person." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:17 PM |
| – | You don’t have to admit you have a sense of entitlement to have a sense of entitlementLet the guys have their hoe phase We're discussing relationships. Separate topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:11 PM |
| – | You don’t have to admit you have a sense of entitlement to have a sense of entitlementLiterally just said that no sex doesn't mean my marriage is over. (It's not "none," but fewer than once a month qualifies as a dead bedroom). The issues you see in dead bedrooms that drive ppl to leave are not just no sex. It's a lack of other kinds of intimacy as well, refusal to communicate, mutual resentment, not prioritizing one another, etc. Those things are deal breakers for most ppl, all on their own. The reduction in sex is a symptom or a trigger for dysfunction that's already there. If … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 04:10 PM |
| – | You don’t have to admit you have a sense of entitlement to have a sense of entitlementI disagree that men in this sub don’t want a relationship. The emphasis on getting dates, with no consideration to compatibility, is a show of priorities. Pretty sure we have a, "don't tell us to not lie about who we are to get women," thread every few days. That's not wanting a relationship. It's wanting a date that will go nowhere, or a hookup. The emphasis on early sex is a show of priorities. If the goal is a relationship, it's a long-term timeline that gradually builds all types of intimacy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.You were talking as if you were surprised of how some men show how they can't handle criticism and associated it to something else. It's a logical train of thought. The ability to take criticism is very much needed in the workplace. More so than skill, bc you can learn a skill if you can handle criticism. When the boss says, "you aren't meeting this metric, you need to do things differently," you can't turn it around with whataboutism. You can't blow it off and expect nothing to happen. You can'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 02:25 PM |
| -5 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.Being fat is part of normal human variety. We've always had all kinds of body types, and it frequently comes with forms of disability. So just saying that would be like saying, "you have brown eyes and you should fix that," or, "you're missing an arm, and you should fix that." That's not criticism, it's insult. Apples, oranges. What you likely mean is that they're not the speaker's type. Which is only appropriate to say if they're trying to hook up. So we can assume that's the case. Men are infa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.Do you think that men who explode over perceived criticism in one circumstance suddenly become different ppl in another? We're talking about men who demonstrate their inability to accept criticism. (Excellent example of dodging criticism/excusing others dodging criticism, btw.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 02:02 PM |
| – | You don’t have to admit you have a sense of entitlement to have a sense of entitlementWe are taught since young “do this and women will like you”, so majority of the time it’s resentment. I can empathize with having terrible socialization as children. The resentment is incredibly misplaced and unhelpful. Their peers aren't doing anything wrong. As adults, it's our job to unlearn the crap and replace it with helpful stuff. Being open to criticism means being able to hear that and start working on it. We don't see that happening at all. Many people need a healthy sex life in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 01:59 PM |
| -2 | Men in general unable to tale criticism.Oh, yeah. Honestly, I'm not sure how some men can even hold a job, the way they take every single piece of perceived criticism and treat it like it's a human rights violation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 01:01 PM |
| 4 | Do you think BDSM is healthy/fair, either in the context of the bedroom or as a lifestyle, why or why not?It's awesome, just like any other kind of consensual, risk-aware activity. Arguments against it tend to be based in logical fallacies and perched on a slippery slope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 11:45 PM |
| 1 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesNobody's talking about violating a child, where tf did you get that pedo scenario from? Without a willing partner, someone would have to be forced to attend and dance with them against their will. That is violation of autonomy. Forcing kids to give hugs causes insecurity, anxiety, fawning, and an unclear sense of self. It also makes them more vulnerable to abuse, less likely to realize it's happening, and less likely to report it if they do. (One of those "no duh" areas of study, but always good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/26 01:47 AM |
| 1 | There is literally no alternative to red pill.Why is it bad to attract incompatible people? Why would it be harder to find a needle in a big haystack than a small one? If you are attractive, you are attractive to everyone. No, you aren't. Just like being conventionally unattractive doesn't make you unattractive to everyone. Esp since the parameters of conventional attractiveness are so easily manipulated. It's a measure of commercial marketability. By that standard, charming brick Victorians are "improved" when they're gutted and painted wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 05:06 PM |
| 2 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectificationthe argument is not that women enjoy being dehumanized. The title doesn't agree with you. a pat on the back and assault are different actions. So are objectification and saying, "I love your makeup." one man shows sexual interest and it is read as confidence or chemistry because she wants him. another man shows similar sexual interest and now it is creepy or objectifying because she does not want him. We are not reliable narrators. And women are more likely to subconsciously notice and interpret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 04:47 PM |
| 6 | women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectification"Women want/like objectification," isn't supported by showing that things that aren't objectification could be welcome in some situations and unwelcome in others. Like if I said, "men want/like to be assaulted," and support it by pointing out that they don't mind it when they're patted on the back, and participate in contact sports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:44 PM |
| 4 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesWhat exactly are you defending them from? Misattribution, misunderstanding, being used as a tool to propagandize, succumbing to dysfunctional or fallacious lines of thought without having a chance to consider them clearly... most often, the insistence that they're inherently lesser in any way. (I could toss in lobbying against the draft, I suppose.) Women have a pre-packaged value system in feminism Feminism isn't a value system, in that, when the extra words are boiled away, it begins and ends … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 10:15 PM |
| 4 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choiceswith anyone Nope. Nothing saying they can't go with a friend or a group, rather than a date. They aren't kept from attending. They just aren't being taught that their discomfort warrants violating another child, or being prevented from developing important life skills. Welp, it applies here. That's true. A person who isn't willing to live in a community, with all that comes with it, is free to leave. What they aren't free to do is pretend that they're being forced out when the truth is that they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 08:22 PM |
| 3 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesTo ensure that a child has a partner, when no one is willing to be their partner, another child would have to be forced to attend and, presumably, dance. We know that forcing children to give hugs causes significant psychological impact. It serves to teach children that they are less important than others and responsible for others' emotions. That leads to insecurity, anxiety, a warped sense of self, and an inability to set healthy boundaries. It also teaches that they need to obey adults, even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 08:12 PM |
| 1 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesNo, it's not. To do it would require harming both children. The first by stunting his development and setting him up for failure. The second by violating their mind and body. A community that harms children is worse off - both ethically and ultimately in terms of survival - than a community that doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 04:41 PM |
| 5 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesLife isn't easy but that doesn't mean you have to make it hard for yourself for others. Hiding from discomfort doesn't make it go away. We've all had a coworker who works way too hard to get out of work, right? It just snowballs, becomes everyone's problem, makes him so much more miserable, and kills any social bonds ppl have, or would've liked to have, with him. Even if he only cared about himself, it would be smarter and easier to just do the work. Is he someone to aspire to be? I don't have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do men accuse women of having high standards, then the same men proceed to shame women for marrying guys they aren't attracted to?It's the boy version of, "women are ruined by Disney romance." Those men think someone should crawl out of the woodwork who wants to rip his clothes off 25/8, but also doesn't expect anything else of him, and will do everything. That mythical wife appliance is the only woman who has worth. If that's not you, you should suffer. It's ironic and sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 03:19 PM |
| 3 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesleaves you being used And? Is life supposed to be easy and feel good and benefit us all the time? If a man will only do the right thing when it's easy and fun, how much does his friendship mean? Can you rely on him? Trust his advice? Discuss things that are more important than the weather? Can you be proud to be his friend? Why say they hate us themselves I told my parents I hated them, and I don't. I frequently say I hate a food or object or experience, when my feelings don't qualify as hatred.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 03:18 PM |
| 6 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesThat's your choice. It's basic ethics. You don't have to be a good person. I have to wonder, tho, what the logic is of expecting that to not matter in interpersonal relationships. A lot of, "you hate me," is actually, "you don't like me." And that's not a matter of morality. It's a matter of being likeable. Do you think men should be encouraged to be, at minimum, good ppl? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 02:48 PM |
| 4 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesYeah but you don't care for people who hate you for existing. I do an awful lot of defending men who actually, literally do hate me. Not guys who call me names or whatever. That's normal interpersonal conflict. Credible threats to my safety. "Shit, I'm about to be a podcast episode," stuff. Actively trying to make it legal to do inhumane things to ppl like me, and bragging about it. I do not like them or trust them. I do not believe they're ethical, and they prob will never be. Other ppl need to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:59 PM |
| 2 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesA child who thinks that not being able to go to the dance with the person he wants, bc that person doesn't want to, is not ostracized from the community. Interpersonal relationships are part of being in the community. Someone who kicks back and watches destruction bc they didn't get a date is rejecting the village, not the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:20 PM |
| 5 | unselected men should not feel moral guilt/responsibility for women’s dating choicesSome ppl care about other ppl. We're a social species. It's how we're supposed to be wired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/26 01:09 PM |
| 3 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencyIn the long term, the stereotypical men are worse off. It's not better to get a bunch of dates and end up alone than to date less and have a healthy relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencyFrom a purely animalistic perspective, “tossing semen around” is a viable strategy to pass on one’s genes. The offspring won’t all die, even without a father. Only in species that have lots of offspring and no or little parental care. Like sea turtles. We physically cannot have enough offspring to offset having most of them suck. They require too much investment in order to not suck for us to half-ass caring for them. In what way are men cultivating traits that make them terrible partners and pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 07:06 PM |
| 0 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencyIt matters because maybe it is not possible for all men. That "maybe" is load-bearing. Maybe my kid isn't able to feed himself yet. But there's nothing inherently lesser about his motor skills, tenacity or ability to learn. If he tells me he can't do it, and he needs me to feed him forever, despite not having put his full effort into it and not having a demonstrable deficit that would prevent him from doing it... I'd say he's a silly goose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencythat being seen as masculine is the end itself, rather than means to an end of being attractive to women Self-destruction to get the approval of women, as evidenced by having access to their bodies, is seeking validation. The only way to do that is to be sexually selected. That's true. However, we aren't sea turtles. It's not enough to inseminate and take for granted that some young will make it. Given that gestation and birth are particularly risky, it's advantageous to form strong bonds. Since… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencyAnd which percentage of the total male population fit into that description? Why does that matter? If it's possible to meet one's intellectual and emotional needs, do one's own labor, and obtain sexual release, without a partner, then it's not something women have to dispense. It's something men can learn to do for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 03:46 PM |
| 0 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencyeverything men need to be fulfilled and men can't get it without a woman's consent The existence of men who are stable and fulfilled while single suggests that this is a narrow view of men's ability to care for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencyAh yes we are such a**holes to want relationships. Why is it that, "as we've been saying, this is an issue that needs to be addressed, bc it's hurting you," immediately invokes, "oh, so we're just evil and can never do anything right"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 03:39 PM |
| 6 | Men need their own way out of romantic dependencywhy are you assuming men are so motivated by validation? Everyone needs validation. We're a social species. Men, specifically, will engage in extremely self-destructive behaviors in the name of being "a real man" on a demographic-level scale. Emotional avoidance is associated with a 35% increase in risk of all-cause mortality, a 70% increase in risk of cancer mortality, and a 47% increase in risk of cardiovascular mortality. We've suspected that for decades, and got meaningful scientific confirm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 03:28 PM |
| 0 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityNothing good enough for inserting a random gripe into a metaphor to make sense lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 10:54 PM |
| 0 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityHow high are you rn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 10:48 PM |
| 1 | I don’t agree with any of the pills but blue pill advice is far worse than red pillGood thing I didn't say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 09:52 PM |
| 1 | I don’t agree with any of the pills but blue pill advice is far worse than red pillCan't tell if you're arguing that men should be coddled, or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 08:51 PM |
| 2 | I don’t agree with any of the pills but blue pill advice is far worse than red pilland then you’ll be rewarded with a girlfriend A lot of men's issues can, I think, be traced back to not being taught emotional regulation and frustration tolerance. The truth is that almost everything is outside of our control, the likelihood of finding a compatible partner and having a healthy relationship is slim, it's nobody's fault, and we all just have to try to keep a healthy perspective. But you can't say that to a man. He'll spiral and shut down or blow up. At the risk of being corny... … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 01:01 PM |
| – | I don’t agree with any of the pills but blue pill advice is far worse than red pillIf I tell you that you shouldn't lie and say you do volunteer work... but you know you won't get the job without it... I don't think I have to explain that you need to actually do the volunteer work, and then put it on your resume. It's like a first grade word problem. We still do, tho. Bc a lot of men act like they can't connect the dots. So we outline some general routes to self-development. And then we're told that it's too hard or it won't work and we're just mean for not letting them lie. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 12:26 PM |
| – | I don’t agree with any of the pills but blue pill advice is far worse than red pill"Don't lie at interviews" - what if being honest won't get me the job? lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 12:08 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityThey have to first fix their needs There are some women who think so. In the end, they still can't do that without helping men. It is impossible. Which is what I just said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 11:06 AM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibility"You don't need free cake," is not the same as, "free cake is bad." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 11:37 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityEvel Knievel couldn't make that leap. (Do the kids still know who that was?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 11:12 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityIt has been my life on the line. So desperate that I grabbed whatever made it feel better and told myself that I had finally found the solution. Then, when that fell thru, something else took its place, over and over, for decades. I'm not unempathetic. I just know that white lies just delay the inevitable. True things are true, even when they suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityThere is no other explanation, there is no other solution. I used to feel really bad unless I got drunk. The problem must've been an alcohol deficiency, with alcohol as the only way to address it. There can be no other possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 10:32 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityAwww one of my favorite dusty old myths! It's economics, not gender. Custodial dads make more money (and have more family support) and more money leads to better outcomes. Y'all need more data to misrepresent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 10:13 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityNuns and priests/monks are not part of the regular/average population. You're right. They have the benefit of extra connections, due to their work. Having friends is a big deal. Also, they tend not to smoke. Doesn't change the fact that, if not getting their ashes hauled was so detrimental, we would expect to see it cancelling out the benefits their lifestyles confer to some degree. We don't. I think men have a tendency to say "need" when they mean "want." We really need to consistently teach bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 10:01 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityIt seems like you've already decided what you want it to say, regardless of what it actually says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:49 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityThe whole point of studying things is to correct our biases and blind spots. But you can choose to ignore data, if you like. It's called willful ignorance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:45 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityIf sexual/romantic relationships were a medical need, ppl without them would consistently die earlier than avg. Nuns have 20-25% longer lifespans than the avg person. Priests and monks also live longer. There's no evidence that acespec ppl have shortened lives. There is some evidence that single women have longer lives. (And we know that married men live longer bc they're more likely to seek medical care and be compliant with treatments... basically, bc their wives push them.) The touted associa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:41 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityConnections are integral. Not sexual/romantic relationships. Same false equivalence as food = cake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:14 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityWanting a relationship is like wanting a dessert. It's additional, not integral. If you don't get it, you don't go hungry. You don't lose sleep, or struggle with who you are. You have a whole meal already. You're comfortable, satisfied. You have a preference, but you're cool if there isn't any. Bros seem to like to starve themselves, demand cake, turn down every offer or suggestion for other foods, and wail that someone is starving them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 08:45 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityYou are never feeding yourself unless you are growing your own food. I am capable of obtaining food, preparing it, using utensils to put it in my mouth, chewing and swallowing. I don't need to sit in the floor and wait for my spouse to come home and feed me. If he disappeared, I wouldn't sit on the floor and starve, or frantically go searching for someone else to play the airplane game. And I understand that but that does not mean they can't consent. It means that they may not be able to give me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 08:37 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityBeing sad over a breakup isn't the same as being dependent. I like, love and respect my spouse. We have a strong connection and a good life together. If he left, I would be heartbroken. I would also still have my identity, purpose, security, fulfillment, etc. Those things are entirely mine. I would heal, adapt, and move forward. He isn't my life. He's in my life. My life is my own. And I expect the same from him. That way nobody is burdened with being a caregiver. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 08:28 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityAnd the burden to find fulfillment is on them, not on you. Nope. "I'm feeding myself," and, "I found someone to feed me," are not the same thing. When you convince someone to feed you, and you cannot feed yourself, you absolutely are placing the burden on them. If they're independent, they have to meet their own needs secondarily, bc you are not. That does not make any sense. Being that dependent on someone creates a power imbalance. I'm not comfortable with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 08:10 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityBeing a house wife = \ = taking care of a man child. Taking care of a man child has always been part and parcel of being a wife at all. And even then that expectation is long gone Uh huh. I'm gonna guess you're from the US. We have a messed up sense of time. A couple decades of decline, and we wanna say, "it's long gone." Around 60% of men think women need to be married to have purpose. Depending on your favorite study, up to 70% believe their wives should be submissive, agreeable caregivers. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 07:43 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityIf you don't feel strongly about being on the jury, it's just a legal obligation. And, in that case, I wouldn't expect it to be satisfying. If there's a sense of moral obligation, it would be satisfying to some degree. We feel good about being true to our ethics, even when the act itself sucks. It's the mechanism by which we established ethics in the first place. Your experience is nonstandard, and that may be the disconnect. The men in my life don't find purpose in feeding me. I'm part of their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:39 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityThe "bulk of men in this sub" don't really represent most men or the average men at all. Avg men are much closer to this crowd than most of us would like to think. society isn't really demanding women to do that Do you live on Mars? That's like saying there's no demand for men to be breadwinners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:28 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityYou have a legal obligation to serve on a jury. The obligation toward another person (or oneself, or a cat) is moral. Is it a question of intensity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:24 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityWhat's the difference between understanding and accepting that a duty exists, and having a sense of duty? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:11 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityHe doesn't have a duty to anything or anyone else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:06 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityAnd there's little to almost none social pressure to women to "make it work" You're kidding, right? Even outside of family, religion and practical concerns... The bulk of this sub are men saying they'll never learn life skills, and women have to date them anyway, marry them fast, become dependent, and never divorce. Bc it's cruel and unreasonable to hold that against them. Maybe they'll learn it if they have a woman in their life. Maybe they're inherently incapable, bc men have alien brains. May… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 06:05 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityWhat's the difference between keeping a partner happy and housed, and keeping a roommate happy and housed? Or a cat? Or a disadvantaged person, via donation? Or yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:42 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityNot much tbh. Statistically, the older you are when you get married, the longer your marriage will be. Until you hit 45. After that, it levels off. Turns out 19-yr-olds make bad decisions, which surprises nobody. female mating choice is how nature works. Forcing women to mate with men who are evolutionary dead-ends just pushes the end forward another generation. It's arguably cruel to put a bloodline on life support just so nobody feels left out. It's not like they're gonna get better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:36 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityHow do they give meaning? What does that look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:09 PM |
| 7 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityIf your options are clean the house or burn it down, it doesn't matter if cleaning is annoying or tiring. You put on some music, microdose an edible or something, and get the broom. That's adulthood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:08 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityPeople make excuses for their partners all the time, it's not just women doing that. True. And it's never ok. However, it's systematic on the part of women. Eg. Women make up for men's inability to communicate. There's a whole industry dedicated to teaching women how to maneuver to get men to listen. One rp-adjacent speaker asserts there are 9 steps you have to go thru. Nine. Steps. No pressure on men to learn how to talk normally, just on women to make it work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 05:02 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityHappiness and contentment don't make life worth living. What about having a wife and kids make it worth waking up? Specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:54 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityWe have feminism for women, what do we have for men? Also feminism. The things that harm women are the same things that harm men first and deepest. Feminism is called "feminism" bc it began with the issue of women being held under baseline. Turns out the problem is actually a huge network of structures and patterns that screws everyone over. The push to fix it helps everyone. Everyone has a vested interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:52 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityLearning the ABCs is far more important than know how to wipe your ass though. WTAF that is vomit-inducing. There's a reason kids have to be potty trained before starting school. It's part of the most basic foundation. the avg person already has basic hygiene Yeah, I thought that, until I started seeing and hearing otherwise. I genuinely thought the "husband's skidmarks" jokes were just ragging on men for not changing their underoos often enough. Not that they were actually microdosing shitting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:28 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityYou can't listen to some nut head and apply the logic to all of us I can surmise that the men who say it, and the men who listen to those men, are severely lacking in life skills. This might be western culture where you don't wash your butt with water. Yeah, a lot of them won't even wash in the shower. It's gay/feminine/unnatural. Skidmarks are "normal for men." Some even have said that it's just part of "working hard." The men in my life use bidets, thank god. Why what's wrong to pee standing u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:12 PM |
| 0 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilitymaybe men can't be fulfilled in the way you find fulfillment Pretty sure it's a human thing, not a gender thing. (Or else nonbinary ppl would be in a weird place...) Never having had it isn't the same as being incapable of having it. Life is temporary. Life is the most permanent thing we experience. There is nothing wrong with temporary happiness Of course not. Just like there's nothing wrong with sheltering under a tree in the rain. But it's not a true solution to the ongoing need for shelter f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 04:04 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityFine i can agree, i was just trying to make a point. That's big of you to say. Thank you. It was a silly point. Men don't have to be 100% of everything to be valued members of humanity. We get blamed for being violent somehow. It might be all the violence. Really i think it would be hard to prove. Men would have started dreaming about space since we were hunter gatherers. Frankenstein is considered to be the first true example of what we consider to be sci-fi. Application of real scientific conc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:18 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityNone of that makes a life worth living. Speaking from experience. I'm sure you can understand that I have strong doubts. Still makes life worth living. By providing temporary happiness, layered on top of a vacuum of a person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:10 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityNo i mean the law is favoured towards women. We need man friendly laws so yeah. Can you give some examples of laws that protect women by causing undue detriment to men? Men are denied rights. A right is a declaration of benefit and responsibility that's available to all. Some are owed bc you're human. Some are owed bc they're promised by your govt. Things like bodily autonomy, asylum, voting, due process... Can you give some examples of rights that are denied to men? Women have to catch up with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 03:04 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityA fulfilling life is bordered by self-actualization - becoming a whole person with strong character, values, identity, purpose, and drive to achieve greater understanding and expression. Within that border is engagement with the world - a network of meaningful connections, positive community impact, exploration, appreciation, and learning. Self-actualization shapes and directs engagement. I think you meant to say that dependence is not the opposite of fulfillment. That's true. A person who relie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:43 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityI read that and all I see is emptyness. I don't think you understand what the words mean. Finding a woman that loves you, having children. Fulfilling your duty to take care of them. That's definitionally dependence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:18 PM |
| 8 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityI live independently though, plenty of men do. Then you don't need a woman. That's the point. Independent adulthood means building a fulfilling life on your own. A relationship is a bonus, not a structural requirement. If it's there, awesome. If it's not, also awesome. Pick up some arguments from men and replace "relationship" with something like "free dessert." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:11 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityWhy do you believe that if a man develops their own emotional and intellectual life they have a fulfilling life? Self-development and engaging with the world are what make life fulfilling. Neither of those things require anyone else. Are you sure you're clear on what a fulfilling life looks like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:05 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityTeaching someone how to wipe is among the most straightforward tasks. The fact that any avg person could get past learning the ABCs without having rudimentary hygiene is beyond me. Fortunately, it doesn't matter in the least whether someone's actual, not-time-traveling parent/s taught something or not. Once we turn 18, we take over teaching ourselves. It's no longer their responsibility. It's ours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 02:02 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityExactly. If you reduce your entire personhood to getting someone to do things for you, you are a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:58 PM |
| 6 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityViolence is lazy, unthinking, and temporary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:56 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityLmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:51 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityMale rights, fits within that purview. [Demographic] rights movements are for ppl who are denied rights. If men aren't denied rights, there's no need. I was saying women have to catch up To what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:51 PM |
| -1 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityThey can develop their own emotional and intellectual lives on their own. Then they do not need relationships to have fulfilling lives. That does not make life as an incel worth living. A fulfilling life and a box of tissues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:48 PM |
| 6 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityBetter go back to prove your point. While you're at it, you also have to give up beer, jerky, windshield wipers, car heaters, circular saws, paper bags, kevlar, cctv, home security systems, caller ID, coffee filters, electric refrigerators and water heaters, chemo, nuclear power/weapons, scotchguard, dishwashers, HVAC, antifungals, fire escapes, sci-fi, white out, crispr, solar, diapers, the pertussis vaccine, physical therapy, DBT (ha), aquariums, hair brushes, q-tips, at-home diagnostic tests,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:46 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityWhat makes you think we aren't? Evidence from men's speakers claiming that it's normal to have feces on their body/clothes/linens/furniture, backed up with anecdotal and (unfortunately) photographic evidence, mostly from women in proximity to the men being discussed. From discussions with men who had to potty train themselves, it seems to be an issue with fathers who taught their sons to pee standing up, and that's it. But, of course, if a man is potty trained, it's bc of his dad. Dads do everyt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:28 PM |
| 6 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityHow well would the world run without computer programming, compilers, wifi and bluetooth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:14 PM |
| 12 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilitySo, men are inferior in that they need someone else to develop their own emotional and intellectual lives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:13 PM |
| 5 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityblame a group they themselves give birth to. If I had gone back in time, gave birth to all men, and raised them all, you'd all be potty trained... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:10 PM |
| 12 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityViolence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:04 PM |
| 9 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilitysexless solitude We call that life as an independent adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:04 PM |
| 10 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityStaying single is not acceptable in the same way starving to death is not acceptable. Singleness is the default human experience. In what way do you propose that men are lesser, leading them to being incapable of living as independent adults? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 01:03 PM |
| 7 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityMen already run the world Then there are no missing rights to obtain via activism The ones that need to grow up [are] certainly not us. Everyone needs to. Not everyone is. If someone wants to know where they are in standard development, there are a lot of charts out there to reference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 12:55 PM |
| 6 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityBecoming adults will do that naturally for most ppl. It's easy to be full of yourself when you're 12 and someone else will clean up your messes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 11:51 AM |
| 16 | A lot of men lack agency and responzibilityMen must be perfect Men must be adults. Which is the point of the post. Men don't need women. They need to grow up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 11:30 AM |
| 0 | Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympatheticNot just rude, but the mix of hostile and dependent that I associate with angsty teens. "I hate you. Fix my problems." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.How would you even calculate that? Same way we estimate the numbers of unreported crimes of any type. We ask and extrapolate. Ugly women As soon as you drag appearance into it, you lose your credibility (if you had any). Gonna need to see actual numbers. Doesn't change anything about the fact that men have no reproductive rights, and are second class citizens You haven't demonstrated that at all. Just saying something over and over doesn't make it true. By that logic men have the right to evict … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.So you didn't understand I was talking about In the words of a toddler's parent: Use your words. Women less deserving of the job get the job over a man due to quotas So there's no evidence, just vibes. You see a woman with a job, and that's proof to you. an issue of this society waging a war against men and boys forcing them out of the society Having feelings hurt is not a war. Feeling like they aren't being prioritized over someone who needs help when they do not need help is not being forced o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenSo, your stance is that the club cannot insist that you participate to maintain your access to the benefit of membership, or they're violating your rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenI argued that circumstances beyond one's control shouldn't exempt a person. We have an ethical responsibility to make sure that someone like little you isn't left out simply bc you can't pay dues in grade school. If it were an issue of ability, rather than a choice, we have a whole section in the bylaws, arranging for reduced and alternative participation, according to ability. Again, how long before you're no longer victimized by the expectation of participation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenIf you'd like to argue that, in the future, parent should not be able to enroll their children, automatically or with intent, we can discuss it at the next meeting. In the meantime, your gifted membership period (you're welcome) has elapsed. How long do we have to provide for you without appropriate participation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenI hereby provide you with complimentary membership until you reach adulthood. (Subsidized by the group.) Now you're an adult, with some expanded benefits. How many more yrs of membership do I owe you if you are able to pay your dues, but choose not to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenif you didn’t pay your dues you got kicked out. Really? They don't have to let you take advantage of the benefits of the group if you're able to participate, and choose not to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than women“the majority.” The group. I have the feeling you've never worked in an office with communal coffee. Or had a membership of any kind of club or organization. Or run a neighborhood garden. Or read The Little Red Hen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/26 01:25 AM |
| 3 | As a guy, the "mysoginists" are not that succesful as you all make them out to beI find that men are fans of benevolent misandry, as long as it isn't spelled out. Countering it has gotten me called a misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsA man's chance of being murdered is just over 1%. A woman's chance of experiencing SA - just one kind of sexual harm - is 20%. But it doesn't matter that much. When a toddler rolls off of a bed, they prob won't die, or get a TBI, or break a bone. The most likely outcomes are abrasions and bruises. But their parents aren't thinking about rug burn when they put a protective guard on the bed. They're thinking about the serious injuries. Frequency isn't the concern. Severity is. You didn't pick murd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenMorality comes in 2 types - personal and consensus. Personal ethics are things like veganism and antinatalism. "Ppl should not suffer and die just bc they lack the ability to prevent their own suffering and death," is consensus morality, as is, "the group has a responsibility to its members." Painting it as if it's a weird private idea, and not a standard held by the majority of ppl on the globe, is bizarre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:33 PM |
| 3 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsSexual harm is uniquely psychologically damaging. It carries a higher likelihood of PTSD than near-death experiences, including active combat, and higher rates of suicidality and substance abuse than long-term IPV. There's a significant correlation between sexual harm and the development of phobias, including fear of sex, pregnancy, touch, traveling, going out alone, and public spaces. When PTSD doesn't occur, moral injury is still common. (Manifesting as an inability to trust that others will b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenPlacing appropriate consequences for immoral behavior - like taking advantage of others' investments without reciprocation according to ability - isn't necessary at all for ppl for whom moral behavior comes naturally. Govts are not the only source of appropriate consequences. However, govts ultimately are just hubs for cooperation and distribution toward the success of the group, so if that's what a community decides on, it's not for me to criticize. My criticism is saved for ppl doing something… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womena very small set of individuals who make decisions for a vastly larger group of people Centralization doesn't have to be under govt control. However, govts are accountable to the group. Individuals are not. You can, for example, seek legal recourse if you apply for a benefit and are denied based on a protected trait. As you should. Private entities and individuals are not accountable to others, and are free to deny assistance to anyone. Which is how we get private adoption agencies who will only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.lmao you have a weird visual of me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 03:55 PM |
| 7 | Wanting female treatment while not doing what women do is stupid.Men being treated as more competent is not rooted in reality, logic or data. Men are not more competent. Individuals sit on a shared spectrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 03:52 PM |
| 4 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.I hate to tell you this, but, "I'm illiterate and/or lazy," is not less embarrassing than, "I can't respond with anything of value and/or am wrong." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 03:26 PM |
| 3 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.Right?? And then they'll talk about how women are too demanding bc they have Disney romance fantasies. "I want a man who respects me and puts effort into our relationship," is somehow unreasonable. "I want a woman who wil do this very risky activity with me before she even knows me," is somehow perfectly realistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 03:24 PM |
| 7 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.Dads bring in more money and are therefore more stressed, less actively involved. Why do so many dudes think having a job - a basic adult activity that everyone around them is also doing, regardless of circumstance - is this huge, extra thing? Did I miss some kind of program that covers a man's bills until he gets married or has kids? It's such a dusty copout. Would his job be more or less stressful if his kid could be hurt or die based directly on his performance? If he had no access to trainin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 03:19 PM |
| 8 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.Yep, we see insistence that women should put out early in the dating process to prove their love a lot around here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 12:50 PM |
| 9 | Women "love" men for what they do for them, not who they are.Can attest that, ime working with families with disabled children... Moms keep the kids and put in the work, to the point of driving themselves into poverty if they have to. Dads quit. The only couple who was married when I started in the field and still married when I left was, ironically, one in which the dad had shaken their son and caused his tbi. None of the other fathers actively parented. While I understand that the strain is extreme for everyone involved, the gendered way in which it pla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenBut cooperation is not the same thing as charity which also has a vitally important place in society. "Charity," as we tend to implement it, is inherently flawed. Handing the survival of the most vulnerable to a small number of individuals breeds abuse of the vulnerable. It's very popular among ppl who think they can effectively purchase the dignity of someone they see as lesser. when it is voluntary Arguably, ethical behavior only exists when it's voluntary. That doesn't mean we permit unethica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 12:33 PM |
| 10 | Do Women Actually Believe Men's Dating Struggles Are Real?Not the same, but I was prepped to be something close to a tradwife. I was told to have no expectations, bc men are incapable of meeting them. They can't provide any kind of support or outlet (that's what friends and family are for), can't provide fulfillment (that's what kids are for), and can't do anything practical at home. So, expect nothing, pick one you think you can stand, and be happy he's not more violent than he is. It was framed as a, "poor guys, good thing we're so strong and capable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 11:59 AM |
| 2 | Women have no idea what an average man isnot every women actually has the "option" of getting a "top man" I didn't say they do. They have the right to want their top option. That's frequently none of the above. It's not Joe vs Bob. It's Joe vs singleness and Bob vs singleness. more and more men are trying to make peace with or are envisioning staying single. I would recommend that everyone live as tho they'll be independent forever. It's a leg-up if the right person shows up, and a peaceful life if not. don't have what I takes to get O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenwe cooperate differentially with others based on their ability and willingness to be productive and contribute their own productivity to the cooperative effort. I know what you mean. I only help ppl who don't need my help. Which makes it look like the don't help. But I would help them, if they needed it. Unless they weren't helping themselves. In which case, they don't need my help. Go team! Now, where's my portion of the support that ppl who need help get from the ppl who help ppl who need help… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.Women absolutely can steal a man's sperm without his consent, and he will be hooked on child support, and there won't be any repercussions for her SA of men and boys is a serious issue. It is not excusable bc of its relative rarity. The 20 cases in which a victim has been compelled to pay support are 20 too many. I acknowledge that it's a difficult issue to parse, and fully support finding other ways to ensure that the child in question has a good quality of life. It also involves his child Is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.I gave you a list of female privileges literally in my first response No, you didn't. You gave a list of words. In no way is "education" a statement supporting your claim. Women getting a job that a man is more credentialed for is sex based discrimination Do you have evidence that this is a systemic issue? (The existence of women in jobs is not evidence, just so we're clear. That would only be the case if it were not possible for a man to be unqualified for a job.) So when there is something wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 09:47 PM |
| 0 | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?"It's not," isn't ambiguous. Just seems like you're looking for a way to be offended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?Not seeing me saying that it's ok to harm men. Are you saying that I didn't say what you've accused me of saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenRegardless of what your moral stance might be, the material conditions necessary for survival require material effort. Yep. the use of coercive force Human beings are social animals. It's essential to our survival as a species. For a person with the standard set of traits that kept us from dying off when we stood up, it's instinctual. If someone can't forage, we share. Doesn't matter if they're too young, too old, disabled, sick, injured... everybody eats. Failing to ensure that is abhorrent. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Women have no idea what an average man isOf course they can. The issue is that men don't like that singleness is also an option, and seems to be the best option for a lot of women rn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Women have no idea what an average man isThe number of times my dad wore camo on Halloween and said he was the invisible man... lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?Pls quote where I said violence against men is ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 11:20 AM |
| 2 | Women have no idea what an average man isSo, you seem to have no idea what the average women’s perception is or even what the average woman looks like. I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?"So it's ok?" "No, it's not." "I knew it! You think it's ok!" Idk what advice to give you, other than to calm down and work on reading comprehension... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 11:04 AM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenThis is the things women look for No, it's not. And women are quite clear on what they want. Men just like to call them liars. men magically came up with what women find attractive with zero evidence When those standards were set, women weren't involved. Most of human history, in most places, have had systems in which women were dispensed, not attracted. If he wants her, he has to impress her dad and brothers. That means offering things other men want. Selling himself as a good ally for them. A … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenHowever, reversion to any more sustainable (and just) meritocratic economic system would be anathema to those with a feminist worldview because women aren’t as productive as men. Yeah, I have this weird moral stance that human beings have intrinsic value, so the idea that anyone's survival should depend on how commercially viable they are is repugnant to me. No more an improvement than treating women like puppy mills to avoid addressing actual issues. X for doubt on your productivity data, just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?Feel free to gaslight. Yes, bc spontaneously bringing up the evil minorities and how they're brainwashing ppl is the most hinged of choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 06:24 PM |
| 3 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than women(status, finances, masculinity, strength, resourcefulness, protection, etc) Dudes really overestimate their ability to "provide" those things, and really, really overestimate their importance. The whole point of saying, "this is what I bring to the table," is to draw attention toward things that make a meaningful difference in the practical and social aspects of the relationship. Not just stuff that other men think are cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenLove the glossing over of the deceptive use of data. they can’t match what the man they want brings Weird, bc I want partners who respect and like me, communicate well, have the same values and goals, and match my investment in the practical and social needs of a relationship... and that's the standard I hold myself to, and ask that they hold me to. (Meanwhile, a discouraging number of men here truly only offer a portion of what's in their bank account and boxers. That's just a side hustle and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 04:39 PM |
| – | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?Not "it's never ok to slap a female server"? Nope, bc the server's gender was not specified in the hypothetical. In this example, a person's status as server or customer is the stand-in for gender. The equivalent to your objection would be something like, "oh, so only servers should be protected?" How strange. Yes, it is strange for a person to get so emotional that they feel the need to change the subject so they can levy criticism against someone for not engaging in the new conversation before… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 04:26 PM |
| 3 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenThe failure of systems that require continuous population growth is due to the system's lack of sustainability. When the plan for the future is, "have more kids and make them prop it up," that plan is dumb. Worth saying that the "population crisis" in the US is just the fact that teen pregnancy is low. Tragically, we just aren't inseminating minors like we used to... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 04:11 PM |
| – | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?The "only" is the only reason to even mention the gender Sure, unless you notice that the post specifically poses the question of whether a husband can be justified in violence against a wife, due to her actions. If I ask whether it's ok for a customer to slap a server for poor service, I would expect a response like, "No, it's never ok to slap a server." And no reasonable person would take that to mean, "Only servers shouldn't be slapped." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenOh, no. Turns out it costs more for govt insurance to foot the entire bill for a widow's nursing home residence than it is for govt insurance to share the cost of feeding a child with the child's guardian/s. Who would've thunk it? (Everyone.) Does not make elderly women the primary participants. Also does not nullify the fact that childrens' benefits are listed as going to women when women are those children's guardians. Gotta say it's weird af that you seem to be trying to present grandma getti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 03:11 PM |
| 3 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than women24 million children receive govt assistance of some kind. Around 9 million elderly women receive govt assistance of some kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenI'm not sure what's not clicking for you. Women prob buy the most juice boxes. Doesn't mean all of those juice boxes are being consumed by women. (Or that men aren't allowed to buy juice boxes, or that men never buy juice boxes, etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenAnalysis of gendered distribution includes benefits being given to children, attributed to the guardian handling the benefit. If a single dad has a kid who receives benefits, on paper, he is a man receiving benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenAre you under the impression that children don't receive benefits from those programs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 02:22 PM |
| 3 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenNot every woman that receives alimony is a SAHM. Didn't say they were. Being SAH is, however, one of the most popular ways to put oneself at economic disadvantage. Also if you had to pay a mortgage at the home you help build and rent at some rancid apartment due to paying both If the house is in your name, you owe the bank. If the house is in both names, you both owe the bank. Divorce doesn't change the terms of the loan. Which is why the majority of divorced couples sell the home and split the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenThe "divorce rate" for a given yr is a comparison between the ppl getting married that yr and the ppl getting divorced that yr. They aren't the same relationships. Starting in 1970, long-standing marriages that should've ended before then started to end. The process was state-by-state and gradual, causing periodic floods of overdue divorces. Again, not the ppl getting married that yr. Ppl who had been married. We're currently at 30-45%. Sounds huge! Except the marriage rate has dropped. (Ppl are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenWomen with children. Nearly 50% of kids receive at least one type of benefit. They cannot legally receive and manage that benefit directly. So it's in the name of, and managed by, their custodial parent... who is most likely to be a woman. Same fallacy used when men present child support as "giving her money." It's giving the kids money, which is managed by the custodial parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 11:42 AM |
| 4 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenAlimony is based on economics, not gender. If more men were SAH and had that permanent loss of earning potential, more men would qualify. It's not like a bunch of men qualify and are being denied bc they're men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 11:13 AM |
| 6 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenHe doesn't have to be a saint. It's one of those things where men choose to be underrepresented. Dads who petition for custody get it more often than not - 50-90% of the time, depending on your favorite study. The ones who really go for custody in court get it 92% of the time. It's just that only 4% of dads petition. Can't have more custodial dads unless more men would rather be custodial dads than pay support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than women*a house he would never have had if it weren't for his family, so the kids he loves (?) don't suffer ftfy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 12:08 AM |
| 15 | Men are panicking more about being unmarried and childless than womenThe greatest indicator is socioeconomic instability, which happens to hit harder for custodial moms (who are not widowed) and their kids. It's not the mom. It's the money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 11:42 PM |
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