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the_them/r/MGTOW18/07/19 09:24 PM
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the_them/r/MGTOW04/11/19 08:26 PM
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Show me the reasonable women and I’ll believe you lol, but I live in the real world and bitches be crazy
/r/PussyPassDenied01/01/22 11:03 AM
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Female privilege rearing its ugly head as usual. There is a far from insignificant number of women who were raised by feminists, who have been told they can do no wrong as women, that they are holy, sacred beings, that anyone that gets in their way is an oppressive bigoted evil human. These women are in turn having more children. The cycle continues...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/21 11:40 PM
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Its the most common fantasy women have. More than anything, learning that the majority are sexual sadomasochists pushed me right towards MGTOW and over the edge. And here I thought sex was about mutual care and affection; silly me. I should have known that if she’s not crying, I’m not doing it right.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/21 11:08 PM
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Deep connection to her uterus
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/10/21 02:07 AM
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At least her standards there are closer to reasonable than what most women say they want. 6.5” is on the bigger side, but not like the absurd .01% 10” that some of these hoes demand
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/21 11:24 PM
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Its weird how reasonable this sounds next to the usual patter 🤣 even satire isn’t as good as reality anymore
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/21 10:41 PM
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I’ve been waiting for this one tbh. Some things are just inevitable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/21 11:47 PM
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Self-describing as a MILF is wrong on so many levels, but I guess she has fucked herself pretty majorly...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/21 09:22 PM
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Nah bro, this ain’t it. This man made the right call at the right time. You being jealous of the relationship does not suddenly make it sacred. They had issues, obviously, and were unwilling to compromise; end of story.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/21 08:40 PM
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You’ve already claimed them all to be liars. There’s no way to prove anything at that point. What an incredibly reasonable POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:18 AM
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I never said otherwise. Here. Most men shouldn’t raise children for a lot of the same reasons. Happy? Don’t try make this about you when it is a broader issue, but then again, if your communication skills and emotional regulation are this bad, it absolutely applies to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:15 AM
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I fear for our future every day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:24 AM
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And most of them shouldn’t be raising children. Not a hard concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:19 AM
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How civilized
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:06 AM
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Mental stability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:04 AM
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It is. Just might not be all deep and emotional like you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:48 AM
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You’re right, but you’re also so wrong its actually funny. First you claim everything that men do is somehow encroaching on your freedom and expression, then you say you don’t care what they think of you. First you call them powerful, then you call them trash. Women like you shouldn’t be allowed to speak, you’re making things worse for yourself and everyone else, but you have narcissistically decided that other women are worth less than you, so who cares if they see the effects of your pointless…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:47 AM
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Imagine thinking these standards are anything short of delusional. Women love to make up ideal hypothetical scenarios and call them reality don’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:17 PM
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Ok, enjoy living in fear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:59 PM
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Women are trash, men are all kings
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:56 AM
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Have you been on facebook? People are not kind to one another just because they can see a face. Empathy is not something valued anywhere, least of all social media; assuming otherwise is naive. I don’t have any illusions about your being real or not despite having no idea what you look like. Sounds like a personal bias needing a face to illicit empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:48 AM
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As if people’s first instinct isn’t to attack the appearance of others in an argument. Cute ideals, but lets be real here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:03 PM
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Women are so reductive sometimes. Its like you don’t actually want things to get better. I’m glad you can come up with your version of a perfect world; shows you have some imagination, but clearly not much. Kinda shameful that you make everything about access to your vagina, but apparently that’s the only point you have. Not that I’m surprised lol, you’ve reacted exactly how I expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:03 PM
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I’m not threatening anything, but thanks for validating me, I knew you would do anything you could to make this personal. People like you disgust me. I’m discussing the patterns that show up repeatedly in history. You cannot have unsettled people sitting idly, it does not happen. Get enough of those in a population, and they will inevitably start to bond over the mutual rejection of whatever is happening in the broader civilization. Look at the French and American revolutions if you don’t believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:44 AM
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You should care a lot. Violent revolutions don’t just happen because people are treated poorly, they happen when enough people check out of the broader ‘norm’ and start banding together. If that number of non-participants gets too high, meaningful or not, no one will be safe. Ignoring and blaming this on “loser men” is only feeding into the problem, but I suspect you’ve already got me pinned among their ranks and therefore don’t have to acknowledge what I’m saying. You can’t have a large portion…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:16 AM
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And so those men are just fucked socially, but should continue participating in a society that does not value them? That’s not acknowledging the issue or the cause. You did a great job of showing your bias though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:04 AM
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You know that’s how more people get made right? Doing something that important irresponsibly is kind of a problem. But fuck them kids
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:59 AM
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There was a crazy amount of random antisemitic comments. Like almost on every post. Lotta weird shit going down on that sub.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/21 02:54 AM
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Women do listen to other women, sometimes. They might not ever agree with one another, but having good female role models could change a lot for the current culture. I’m not going to argue that women don’t lack self-consciousness, but if there is someone saying straight to their face, “there is a better way.” Its a lot harder to ignore. It is important to accept people where they are, I agree, but that doesn’t mean you can’t encourage them to be better men and women. That’s what this sub is real…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre03/08/21 05:55 PM
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I would encourage you to share your story with women as well as men. You might receive a lot of hate for it, but its important to see this other perspective, that happy healthy relationships are possible as long as you put in the effort.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre03/08/21 02:20 AM
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That’s a good saying, I use: “To whom does it serve?” And like you said, 99% of the time, it is someone serving themselves.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre28/07/21 12:04 AM
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I don’t know the crazy girls by their appearance every time either, that’s why you have to look at how they act before you get in bed with them. I’m not saying judge based on first glance, I’m saying make a little effort to protect yourself before jumping straight to intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:26 PM
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So you’ve disproven your own point? Cool thanks. What I’m trying to say and you’re purposely ignoring, is that sex is the male biological imperative. Regardless of what you think anyone is ‘owed’, males of all species (that perform sexual selection) live their entire lives devoting most of their behaviors to being sexually attractive to females. If one trait or one behavior is more successful than others, it will be expressed more, usually at the expense of other methods of attraction. So yeah, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:54 AM
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Are you saying these are the same people or different? You’ve made your own point impossible to understand, nor do any of the possibilities really address my argument. Great obfuscation tactic though. I’m talking about the direct consequences of certain actions and you’re going on about how men are to blame for everything you do. Keep ignoring the issues and using men as a justification for your own lack of morality, its a great look for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:49 PM
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So you understand that giving someone who values sex sexual attention validates them regardless of your feelings on the matter? The dude you’re fucking at the party is going to be convinced he’s hot shit no matter what you think unless you, idk, don’t fuck him. How is this an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:48 AM
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If people don’t take responsibility for the way their refusal to communicate affects others, they have no right to complain about anything. Fine, you owe nothing to men and nothing changes, nobody learns anything, no reason to do anything for anyone really. Your only value is your appearance apparently and even that you take for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:08 AM
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Weird that I could say the same thing about women. Almost like you don’t have anything to say beyond ‘men bad’. And don’t act like you care about helping, you’ve already made it clear you want nothing to do with these men and just want to complain about being attractive enough to get approached time to time. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:56 PM
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If you’re constantly annoyed by the existence of men, they aren’t the problem. You are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:13 AM
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How does it feel to be the walking definition of bigotry?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:15 AM
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Stay away from those men then just like I stay away from women who get clingy as soon as you look in their direction. Dangerous people exist. You have to protect yourself. However, that doesn’t make literally everyone a threat. Or is using judgement too difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:09 AM
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And they should. No man deserves to deal with someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:02 AM
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Just say you have unrealistic standards for male behavior and move on. These guys are not real. Keep coping though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:52 AM
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But you didn’t desire them, which makes them accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:24 AM
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You’re talking to two different people here first of all. I’ve never said anything about “every woman”, nor do I have any illusions about the sanctity of men. What I will say is that the most manipulative situations I’ve been in have always been knowingly perpetuated by women. So yeah, some people suck, most people suck, but I have yet to meet a man who will lie to me for months out of sadistic desire then disappear when they got bored and no, it was more than one girl, more than three. But no, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:55 AM
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You’d be surprised how openly cruel women can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:39 AM
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Most guys do not have the benefit of choice. Its that simple. Every guy can tell you the story of the perfect girl who shared all their interests and wanted little or nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:36 AM
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Such unique and inspiring advice, you’ve really got this thing figured out. Guys, just do better. Actually, just be perfect. And you’ll still get rejected. Thanks for the tips lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:33 AM
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Oh? He’s not like the other men? Sounds like you got a real catch. You don’t like showing him off though, do you? Or using his existence as a gotcha in arguments like this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:54 AM
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That’s a lot of arbitrary descriptors that say almost nothing about what actually matters. Just say you pick guys based on their ‘vibes’ or whatever and move on, don’t act like you actually have a point here. Everyone has seen that argument before and it does not hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:12 AM
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The more you look, the more you realize how poor human communication has actually become. I’d say a good 75% (if not more) of arguments online are due to small differences in definition and perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:25 PM
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Seems like you personally had a problem managing your hobbies and there’e nothing wrong with recognizing that. It doesn’t mean there is no healthy way to game and masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:21 PM
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You obviously don’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:59 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:52 AM
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Then you didn’t understand my statement in the first place and are simply being obtuse for no reason other than a pathetic attempt at some kind of ‘gotcha’. How dumb are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:05 AM
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Thank you for your support! What a horrible thing it would be if there were a few less idiots like you in the world! Please, continue perpetuating your ignorance to as many new lives as possible. Quick! You have to fulfill your biological imperative before you die otherwise your life will have been meaningless! Breed or don’t breed; it is your choice. Why are you making it out to be something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:59 AM
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I constantly question my biases, that’s why I come to a place where people like you are allowed to speak. Its important to recognize what willful ignorance looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:33 AM
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Its actually called masturbation and works 100% of the time, but no, men are the pigs who need sex constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:47 PM
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Please tell me how you can generate better results. I’d like to know so I can get to work making this perfectly scientific social study. Oh wait, this one was about as good as it gets. No knowledge of a study, no influence on the participants, just pure observation and data analysis, but that still isn’t enough for you is it? You need a corrupt institution to slap a mark of approval on it too. I’m glad you have faith in science, but I’d hope you understand what it is first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:35 PM
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So don’t get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:11 PM
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There she goes, proving everything I’ve pointed out. Thank you. I’m going to speak out when I have to and do what I can, but no one is absolved from responsibility here. That’s all I’ve said. Too bad it looks like I’m just another lazy oppressor. Enjoy your little picture of the world. It would be cute if it wasn’t the same as every ‘feminists’. You have brought nothing to the conversation beyond your own demands. You have not moved on from the trauma of the past, the vast majority of which was …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:17 AM
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That is a naive position to hand a social responsibility to one half of the population and expect it to resolve itself. Men can’t change anything if their individual efforts are rejected on a broader scale. You’re still dancing around my point because you’ve taken this personally. Women need to be accountable for their actions and words, same as men. You’ve claimed empathy, yet you can’t seem to recognize the difficulty in resolving a systematic issue that is actively telling you not to open up …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:22 AM
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I’d suggest the same thing women have been preaching for years: listen to men when they talk and respect them, but you’d rather blame every individual man than acknowledge the broader cultural problems that need to be resolved for that change to happen. You’re saying that you’ll applaud men for expressing themselves, yet you don’t seem to be listening to what they’re saying. Just because you have the perfect, undeniable moral high ground as a woman doesn’t mean your perspective is anywhere close…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:27 AM
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I see thirsty dudes and supportive girls. Your point is working against you dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:26 PM
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‘Not that often’ is still a whole lot more than ‘never’. You’re missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:24 PM
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Here’s a man telling you about a real issue he’s had and you’re telling him it’s not real, he should just get over it right?Case in fucking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:22 PM
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Did you read the study or just jump on the first conclusion that supports your ideology? Did you even attempt to interpret the results beyond, “men bad”? Pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:17 PM
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You deserve to be single forever lmaoooo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:54 PM
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Ok, but hear me out, is vetting people’s personalities not the whole point of dating and relationships? Saying that you do your part in a relationship to avoid bad situations is literally the bare minimum. I’ve made bad decisions with partners and suffered for it, but I don’t blame all women for having shitty personalities. If you can’t protect yourself, you shouldn’t be in a relationship in the first place. But no, men are always the responsible party because they have to make the approach righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:55 AM
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Just let the men take the risks. That is a very simple solution isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:44 AM
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Bringing up solipsism is pretty funny here 🤣 way to project and deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:33 AM
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So you’ve based this entire theory off a strawman then try to say its wrong to say women make shit up. Your point is rapidly disappearing the more you speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:29 AM
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You’re exposing your biases pretty openly here. Keep pushing your agenda though, doing a great job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:24 AM
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Woman special and unique and cool and pretty. Men boring mean and bad. Incredible insights you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:22 AM
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Welcomes to the real world. Every advance and desire you have can and will be used against you. Every relationship is a gamble. Sitting on your hands and hoping he notices your weak attempts at manipulation is only going to push him away if he has any sense. You either talk to him directly or leave him alone; stalking him in public is creepy and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:13 AM
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Your entire response sums up to “no u”. Amazing discourse here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:08 AM
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Owning capital doesn’t automatically make you an exploitative asshole.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/01/21 01:21 AM
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How do you know a dude is over 6’? He’ll literally talk about nothing besides how much taller he is than the average.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/01/21 01:08 AM
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I hate this argument because you’re implying that service workers are expendable and replaceable which to a certain degree, they are, but the other side of that is you’re blaming them for the fact that they are not adequately compensated for the work they do. I agree the solution in most cases is to move on and find new employment, but how can you make the claim that service work is somehow a pipeline for higher education? Do service workers not deserve appropriate wages because ‘they should be …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/20 06:56 PM
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I don’t know why I’m taking the time out of my day to explain this, but fitting ‘toxic masculinity’ into each point doesn’t make it the cause or source. I could do literally the same thing and blame everything on feminism. I won’t because its not true, but it would be just as easy to bend the points you’re making. You have said nothing about why or how ‘toxic masculinity’ perpetuates itself nor given any reason why it should be applicable here. Its a term you knew would get attention. It doesn’t…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/12/20 06:42 PM
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Mental illness can be managed and addressed. Stupidity, on the other hand, is a chronic debilitating condition that causes everyone forced to read idiotic comments like yours.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/12/20 06:26 PM
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Do you know the difference between a bad man and a good one when you see them? Do you have a radar that goes off when you’re around someone ‘evil’? People are people, good and bad both. Its that simple, stop trying to look for a logical fallacy where there is none. Your prejudice is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:36 AM
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If you don’t ask, you don’t date as a man, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:24 AM
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Have you ever considered that there might be a balance between extremes or is that too much mental work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:41 AM
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Not a marxist, but cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 06:10 PM
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This. The demographic of people that would go to reddit meetup is not necessarily a good representation of the reddit population as a whole. That being said, someone who openly identifies as “a Redditor” without irony is already outside of the social norm by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:17 AM
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This. The demographic of people that would go to reddit meetup is not necessarily a good representation of the reddit population as a whole. That being said, someone who openly identifies as “a Redditor” without irony is already outside of the social norm by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:17 AM
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Why do you care that ‘men have inflicted the red pill, incels, etc.’ if you don’t have to date them? That’s how stupid you sound. When people are shitty to each other, it ends up bad for everyone, i don’t know why this is hard to understand. Things don’t get better when everyone decides no one else matters, but no, there are mean scary men and therefore everything has to be terrible for everyone forever. See how their actions affect you even though you’re not dating them? Its easy to ignore the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:18 AM
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We have to share a society with these leeches. Their actions affect others but they don’t take responsibility. That is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:29 AM
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Wow great point, now can we get back to the topic at hand or are you going to keep bringing up irrelevancies that support your narrow worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:00 PM
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A person who lacks natural empathy can never understand the difference. I’ve come to realize that some people are only ever capable of sympathy because they have no fundamental desire to know how anyone else really feels. This is more of an issue with our current culture as a whole than with PPD itself, though you would hope that people could be more understanding. Empathy is not valued in a capitalist system, its that simple. It does not make money to want to give beyond your means to support y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:46 PM
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Pity and empathy/understanding are two completely different things. Pity is useless and patronizing, it minimizes the issue at hand because “poor you must have it so bad.” For example, “I feel so bad for you women having to deal with men being attracted to you and showing it off.” See how that doesn’t make you feel better even though I acknowledged the issue? Empathy on the other hand would sound like this: “I can really see how having dudes come up to you randomly and proposition you for sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:10 PM
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C’mon dude, we all know that’s not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:50 AM
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“Heh kid, that was only half my power. This isn’t even my final form!” That’s you. That’s what you sound like.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/03/20 12:25 AM
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I’m so confused every time this argument comes up because its the same every time; a bunch of men explain how they were nice, gentle boys who didn’t want to hurt their partner but were shamed into physical and mental abuse while a handful of women fervently deny that this ever happens. A few dudes will chime in and admit that they find inflicting pain enjoyable and it’s pretty obvious that sadomasochism is not overly uncommon, the odd thing is how much women are against the idea that rough sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:24 AM
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What is your point here? Don’t normalize the weird shit? The whole issue is that no one knows what is unusual anymore, men and women. This is not a gendered issue. You’re blaming men, OP blames women. The bottom line is that people need to talk about sex clearly and honestly, pinning things on one group of people does not serve anyone, things will only get worse otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:15 AM
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Yes, if she wanted to, but this person obviously has no interest in improving anyone else’s life but her own. Her lack of empathy is so blatant, I wouldn’t want to see her in any of those service positions where her apathy towards other people could ruin or end someone’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:57 PM
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You’re still arguing that this person brings value to other people’s lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:33 PM
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You could probably say the same about men and conclude that there are a lot of zeroes out there. The issue is, our culture is devoted to telling everyone that they are as equally valued and successful as everyone else as long as they work hard which means these flat personalities start seeing themselves as dynamic. This creates a confused market where no one is certain of anyone else’s value which is where we are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:15 AM
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Maybe you’re not paying attention then, cause I’ve watched it happen time and time again while kind men watch and sadly shake their heads. You can keep painting women as victims with no agency or ability to choose for themselves, but the fact remains that abusive men are more popular than men who don’t exhibit constant aggression. That is what gets women’s attention, not kindness. You can even try to pin this on me, but I’m not talking about my experiences though they do support the idea that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 04:50 AM
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So you make wild unsupported claims for fun? Cool. You should be banned for arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 04:46 AM
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Except that they’re still making the same choices for dudes who will abuse them because they tick those boxes. The facts directly contradict your argument unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 04:36 AM
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Because they’re all convinced that they’re the exception.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/20 02:43 AM
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If all women were this direct, this post wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:01 PM
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I watched the same things happen to my parents, I had the same feelings of guilt and helplessness, and I still found time to figure out what I wanted. It wasn’t easy, it took some time and effort on my part, but now I know. Stop trying to paint women as selfless saints who are always on the back foot because they have someone else in front of them. You. Have. Agency. Learn to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:59 PM
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This was a study done on high school students about relationships with as little as a 2 year gap with a total of 155 as its sample size. That doesn’t give me much in the way of confidence that their findings are anything more than confirmation bias. I wouldn’t even disagree with the hypothesis, but I can’t accept this as scientific proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:05 AM
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Because sharks are by and large docile creatures who have no interest in you as meal, but if you scream about shark attacks every five minutes, people are going to be unreasonably afraid of an animal that wants nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:45 AM
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Do you have a source on that or are you making assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:44 AM
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My point is that feeling special is not enough. I’m trying to keep the men on this post from getting the wrong idea and thinking making an effort is going to change the facts; if she’s attracted to you, it doesn’t matter what you do and the same goes if she’s not. She’s going to see what she wants to see and nothing more, she’s not interested in YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:33 AM
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You’re missing the point here. Women expect men to come and make them feel special, but that is entirely dependent on their initial attraction which means that there is actually very little to do that any man can do to make a woman feel special other than simply being attractive to her before you approach her which is completely counter to the argument the women commenting on the post are bringing up. Do you know how to date successfully as a man? Be perfect, all the time. Do you know how to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:20 PM
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But that only applies if the feelings are mutual which makes your entire argument moot. If a guy ‘lusting’ after a girl isn’t attractive enough inherently, that lust won’t make her feel special so his feelings here are almost completely irrelevant except that he is still asked to prove those feelings to even be acknowledged. A girl will feel special if she wants to. The man in her life is only there to enable that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:55 PM
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Yeah, but no. Women do not spend time thinking about whether a guy is only after sex or is actually interested. There would be a lot less complaining if that were the case from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:30 PM
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Gotcha, lets keep living by caveman rules everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:27 PM
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If men picked partners based on intelligence, being a femcel would be the norm. Women wouldn’t be able to handle that cultural shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:12 PM
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Once again, right out in the open, everything that is wrong with the current dating market. The primary reason everything is so screwed up and confusing right now is that more than half of the population is playing a low-stakes, no commitment version of a game everyone else is forced to play to build relationships. How are things ever going to get better when you have people in the dating market who’s idea of making an effort is looking nice in the hopes that their target will correctly interpre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:54 AM
1

The guy who doesn’t go to church with his family is not going to be one of them. Use your brain please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:48 PM
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Then I’m sorry, you’re in the minority if you trust your family to help you find a partner. Its cool that you can trust them with that responsibility, but that doesn’t make it any less strange. You don’t have to stop them, but they’re not helping your case. Meeting is not marriage, yes, but that is still your goal is it not? To suggest otherwise would be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:47 PM
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Both of these points are 100% correct (if slightly mean-spirited. Your presumption and expectations of this entire situation makes you sound like you came here from a different time. Arranged marriage and other forms of familial involvement still exist, but its largely dying out, along with the entire idea of marriage. My grandparents have no idea who would be a good partner for me and I would not want them to even consider that their responsibility. Do you have your family on the hunt for eligi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:46 AM
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It is weird to think someone is going to be ok with their mother/grandmother setting them up with a random person they met at church. Your belief in god doesn’t automatically make you good or trustworthy. Maybe this is a time to reflect on your methods when it comes to finding a suitable life partner, but I’m just another stranger who doesn’t go to church, what do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:41 AM
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My entire argument is that if women stop using sex as a way to create relationships with men then the culture surrounding sex and relationships might change, but for some reason, you’re seeing the exact opposite. I don’t know why I’m even still here given that you’re going to do the same thing with this comment and zero in on the fact that I mentioned sex regardless of the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 11:07 PM
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If you keep telling yourself the same story, nothing will ever change. The fact that you choose to interpret things in a way that suits your narrow view is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:18 PM
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Forgive me for not using a gentler term for generating an intimate situation (sexual or otherwise), but my point still stands. It doesn’t matter if its seduction or straight up expressing interest in forming a relationship, you can’t say women are the ones taking the initiative here. If relationships revolving around sex bothers you, change the narrative. Be clear about what you want and what you’re looking for out of your partner and things just might change; men are willing to do insane things…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:03 PM
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Even moreso in that case. His family probably has been trying to push him into a relationship for years at this point. What’s more telling is how personally you’re taking it. He wasn’t avoiding or judging you (he literally did not even meet you), he was avoiding his family and their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:53 PM
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Its been pretty established that people at the gym are rarely there to socialize and hookup. You’re being shown respect. But you don’t want respect, you want the perfect man to appear out of nowhere and sweep you off your feet. Time to stop playing princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:48 PM
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If by interest, you mean they’ll smile at him a few times and wait for him to come to them, then sure, but there aren’t women out there making special effort to seduce good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:45 PM
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It must be hard being such a hateful and judgmental person all the time. Its too bad you don’t understand the difference between sympathy and advocacy. Its an even greater shame that you seem to think that saying, “People are sympathetic, see? Your problems are irrelevant!” Will work to change anyone’s mind. The sheer amount of hypocrisy contained in this post is so absurd, I would honestly think you were trolling if I didn’t frequent this sub enough to recognize your distaste for anyone with di…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:38 AM
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Wow, you just took everything that person wrote and completely ignored it. That’s pretty impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:59 PM
1

That’s right, people only exist in extremes and moderation is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:22 AM
1

Sounds like someone has great judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:18 AM
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You’re the only one saying ‘NEVER’ and overdramatizing this, but you know what? Welcome to the real world: your perfect partner does not exist. No one will ever be able to satisfy your personal needs and desires 100% and you’re just going to have to live with it like everyone else does. This whole post reads like a little girl who bought into the whole princess in a tower narrative and just found out no one wants to fight a dragon to be with her. But how dare a man not decide you’re the most att…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:13 AM
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I would, but that apparently makes me an outlier. Men aren’t big on standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:01 AM
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You’re in the wrong sub if you think this is reflective of reality. Its nice that you can blame men for only choosing stuck-up bitches over you. Makes you wonder where all the good men are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/20 06:50 PM
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I did not say that, but I’ll bite. If you’re not sexually attracted to your partner, your relationship has a big problem that is going to come out eventually. I do like your perfect world scenario where everyone knows what everyone else’s standards are and can determine of they’re too shallow. Seems like a nice place to live. I think you’d find people are a lot more shallow than you’d hope and a lot more forgiving than you’d imagine, but no, I’m the shallow one because I don’t want to be in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:43 PM
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Gotcha, romance is dead and transactional relationships are the only thing that exists because wanting to be found attractive is entitlement. This is why I don’t bother anymore. If her finding me attractive is entirely based on my willingness to buy her shit, then we do not have a relationship. If me finding her attractive purely on her willingness to have sex with me, we do not have a relationship. Why is this so complicated for you to understand? Is the point of dating just to prove I have eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:13 AM
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You’re so right, why would I be with a girl I don’t fine attractive? Never mind pay for anything. Does me opening my wallet for her somehow make her more attractive to me? Do you understand the male perspective at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:32 AM
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And people having standards is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 06:44 PM
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Poly relationships are always complicated, there’s no easy way around any of it. Three+ people suddenly coming together and starting something together is pretty unlikely, just based on pure logistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:47 PM
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Not everyone is interested or capable of having multiple partners. Compound that with people who find it morally repulsive and you have a very small subset of people. The best answer is that everyone is going to have their own reason for choosing to be or not to be poly. Being a -cel doesn’t automatically mean you’re desperate enough to do anything to get laid (even if that’s true in many cases). The poly world is messy and not easy to get into as a single person, established couples are in much…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:56 PM
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And I’m saying that if those standards are self imposed because of media influence, the only option is for people to grow up and get over the fact that we like seeing aesthetically pleasing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 11:54 PM
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Find a different man, I don’t know why that’s difficult to understand. There are plenty of guys who have 0 interest in fake bodies and absurd proportions. The fact that you don’t seem to know this tells me you’ve limited your selection of men to a ridiculous point, chasing after only the wealthiest and sexually successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 06:44 PM
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Given that we know how advertising works at this point, you’d think people would realize all of that shit is fake. If someone is taking any of those things at face value and letting it get to them, I don’t see how it’s anyone else’s problem but their own. Use your brains people, please! Advertising and porn are not real life. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 06:34 PM
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I’ve never seen someone so angry about an explanation they asked for. I might have been speaking generally and you wouldn’t even know because you’ve decided this is somehow my fault that you have made poor choices. People do actually have brains and some of them are actually capable of thinking for themselves, but that’s apparently too big an ask when you’re a woman. But no, why think about things when white people=bad and me=good? You didn’t want an explanation or logic, you wanted to get angri…
/r/MensRights15/12/19 05:36 AM
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Because at any point in time, a woman can decide that she was raped or harassed and a man’s life is over, with no burden of proof placed on the woman, her word is enough to destroy his reputation permanently. No one should ever have that kind of power over another human’s life and not be questioned for it. If I believed humans were 100% truthful when it comes to protecting themselves and each other, we’d live in a different world where this wouldn’t be an issue, but young women are given a free …
/r/MensRights15/12/19 04:35 AM
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/r/nicegirls
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 10:56 PM
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Its not ‘manly’. What it is is the same strategy women have been using for what is likely thousands of years. If you want to live comfortably, find a wealthy wife/husband. This is that equality thing people have been talking about starting to express itself. Weird how everyone is willing to debase themselves for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:12 AM
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I find your casual dismissal of art and music disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:00 AM
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Go big or go home. Shoot for the moon and you’ll land among the stars. You don’t get anywhere if you’re not willing to go further than you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:39 PM
1

Would it not be dishonest to make a huge effort to dress well if that isn’t something you value personally? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but if you care more about the clothes than the person wearing them, then this game is more fucked than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:54 PM
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Be open and honest. Act without fear or reservation. Love isn’t easy and you have to work for it. Reciprocate effort or get out. Work together, not against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:38 PM
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Me knowing what I want gets me nothing because unless it aligns with what she wants at the time, it literally doesn’t matter. I’ve known the kind of relationship that I wanted for a long time, I’ve given it a lot of thought and put in a lot of effort with many different women to build the thing I envision, but they don’t care so it doesn’t work. So what should I do? Have standards or settle? Know what I want or be what she wants? The answer should be somewhere in the middle, but that only comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:33 PM
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I think most of us probably would prefer if it was real (its pretty obvious when someone is enjoying themselves versus faking it) but most of us also don’t make the porn nor define the industry standards, so this is a question for the porn studios, not the average straight male porn consumer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:23 AM
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But you are the ones demanding that men perform constantly for your benefit and entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:36 AM
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Relevance? Or are you actually implying that all men (or MOST men) are sadists who wouldn’t hesitate to rape a woman given the chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 01:44 AM
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No, I don’t find it tame in the slightest. It may surprise you, but humans have this thing called empathy that allows us to see when another human is in pain. We can ignore that instinct, but that does not mean it isn’t always there. I don’t make porn so I can’t speak on what happens or the people that make it, but I know that I find it hard to enjoy the kind of porn you’re describing because its obvious that the woman is in pain. The problem is that those kids will go out and meet women who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 07:47 PM
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I know 10 times as many women as I do men who have rape fantasies. In my experience, men don’t want to have to hurt anyone they don’t have to. Rape is not exactly an enticing prospect unless you’re literally a sadist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:54 PM
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It isn’t always special, but it can be. Men can have shitty sex and unsatisfying orgasms, its not always great. Its the same principle though, the male must signal his masculinity in a performative manner to be deserving of female attention, this is how it happens for the majority of sexually dimorphic species on the planet. Just because you’ve redefined simian chest beating doesn’t mean the purpose or the intention is any different. The issue that we’re facing is that some people want to evolve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:56 PM
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A man’s arousal is not “automatic”. The boner part is, but you have to decide to act on it. Flip the switch and you are interested in a guy, you have to decide to fuck him. Its the same shit, you’re just asking men to do more because you don’t want to have to choose. Women love having sexuality forced on them though for the life of me I can’t imagine why. You want a trained monkey who will beat his chest and screech at the other big monkeys when it feels you’re in danger? I don’t see much value …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:44 PM
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You’re literally saying men need to perform a circus act to have their efforts acknowledged. Where is her effort in all this? No one is asking her to entertain her man constantly, but its perfectly reasonable to demand he work to keep the tingles going. The issue with this is that it never stops. There is no point in a relationship where you can feel comfortable if her entire engagement is based on your ability to retain her attention. At any moment, she could decide that she’s bored. Its not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:50 PM
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/r/suspiciouslyspecific
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:36 PM
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You know you’re agreeing with a troll right? I’m not sure what that makes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:15 PM
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I’m not sure they’re outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:13 PM
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Where are these wonderful rewards? I want to cash in. I’m tired of being nice and putting in effort to help people and staying out of their ways and keeping my negativity to myself. What do I win? Oh wait... No one is keeping track except for me. No one will recognize you for doing good unless you shove it in their faces and then its no longer about making things better for other people. I’d love to live in a world where the good people who actually get shit done and make things work get appreci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 12:28 AM
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/r/threadkillers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:22 PM
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Is there a reward for being a good man? Do you get recognized or acknowledged for taking that extra effort? Do people even care that you put your ego aside to help someone? Unless you can say yes to any of these, I don’t think you need to ask that question. There is no benefit to being a good man beyond the personal sense of fulfillment it might give you and considering how people will take advantage of kindness and goodwill, I can’t say its a good deal for any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:17 PM
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You’re right, anyone can live their life ignoring everything and everyone around them, but most of us live in the real world where we have to deal with other people and sometimes it matters how we think about and perceive each other. No one has to take on that responsibility and yet we do, every day, that’s called empathy. If someone tells me that something I’m doing them is hurting them, I’m going to examine my behavior. Am I required to? Absolutely not. Am I going to in the chance that it make…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 11:35 PM
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Muslims as a group don’t hold much political influence and power at the moment (unlike their christian counterparts) while feminists and liberals do, this means that their ideologies do have weight and consequence if they are inappropriately directed. Feminism is an accepted part of academia and academic study, something being wrong at the root of that idea can have wide reaching effects that extend outside of the imagined world of feminists. Things that happen inside the muslim community largel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 10:02 PM
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You don’t need to be a dictator for people to start respecting each other and treating everyone else like human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:31 PM
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Nah, a man who can’t get a woman to fuck him is apparently no longer considered human. That’s the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:45 PM
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Who is going to pull the trigger?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:41 PM
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So everyone is lazy and stupid and there’s no problem with the way wealth and money moves around, got it. Makes sense. You’re admitting that things need to change but you’re also saying that its good the way it is. I’m very confused. How are people supposed to get smarter? Trust our educational institutions that do not serve the needs of their students? I don’t disagree with you entirely, but there’s something missing from your argument. Capitalism does not work to support the individuals living…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:05 AM
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This isn’t about jobs. Its about how much buying power the average citizen has in the market. Most people aren’t even players in the economy because the only things that actually matter are the multibillion dollar companies and their investors. Sure, they’re doing great right now, good for them. Everyone else is trying to get by and its going to get worse for those at the bottom unless something turns it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:07 AM
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Huh, funny that the middle and working class seem to be struggling despite this apparent boom in economic growth. Its almost like GDP doesn’t accurately measure how people are functioning within a system. I don’t care what the numbers look like if here on the ground everyone is working two or three jobs to make ends meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:31 AM
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We aren’t in a recession? That’s news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:28 PM
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I can’t speak for every guy, but nine times out of ten I’d rather hear “I’m not that into you.” Over some bs that you’re using to cover your ass. That’s what I mean about taking responsibility. Unless you explicitly say you’re not interested, most guys are too dense to see it if they like you enough to make an advance. It takes courage to approach someone and sometimes a little stupidity, being direct is the best way to counter that. Some dudes won’t like that and will still end up being pushy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 03:16 AM
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You say no and move on without the guy dogging behind you because he thinks he still has a chance (within reason, there are crazy people everywhere). Men are equally, if not more responsible as they are still by and large expected to initiate and lead relationships. They are not educated on how this should be done nor are they given good advice. You think I’m blaming women, but I blame everyone for being complicit and playing along despite how bad things have gotten. What I do know though is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 01:32 AM
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Well you kinda don’t have a society without sex and relationships so I’d argue that they are very important if not the most important thing in terms of community as they are the basis on which all humanity has come from. Rejection is a poor example, but we have to take responsibility for the things we do. Is that homeless man your problem? Not unless you were the one who fired or evicted him. Is that ugly girl entitled to dance with me? No, but I am responsible for saying no clearly and without …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 12:49 AM
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All people have a responsibility towards one another, that’s called society or civilization. Men are constantly told that its their responsibility to care for, protect, and support women so that leaves a pretty uneven playing field if you think women have no skin in the game. So no, its not about giving sex up, its about realizing that you are in the position to choose and therefore your choice will have consequences and those consequences are largely your responsibility. If you sleep with a bun…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:52 PM
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It becomes entitlement when you go from saying, “I have a right to go after more attractive/wealthy person I can” to “Because I have the right (and I’m putting in the effort) I deserve to end up with one of these people.” That is not a difficult logical leap and this is where I would point when talking about female entitlement. The first bit is fine, especially in America, we all have the right to pursue happiness. That does not mean you will get it or that you are owed it. The issue comes when …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:16 PM
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Entitlement and standards are a little different. Cause I agree that everyone needs to raise their standards about behavior, but I would not say the same about physical attractiveness since I think the standards we have there are already unrealistic. For example, a woman can demand to be treated ‘like a princess’ and that’s fine, there are plenty of men happy to do that. Demand that alongside a ripped model body and we have a problem because the men with those bodies rarely have time to treat an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:05 PM
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Ok, then you’re right, women aren’t entitled, they’re extremely privileged when it comes to sex, dating, and relationships and that expresses itself as entitlement in many cases. It is not an automatic correlation=causation, but it is easy to go from privilege to entitlement, especially if that privilege involves a bunch of people agreeing with everything you say on the offchance it will win them points.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:51 PM
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You’re literally saying to women not to take these men seriously and date as many as possible at once to increase your chances. Sounds a lot like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:42 PM
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On-Line Dating
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 06:57 PM
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The artist is DevilHS which is in the pic
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 07:37 PM
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My effort and attention. I put a lot into my relationships and I want to see some of that come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:58 PM
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You’re literally arguing my point for me. Why continue to support a courtship ritual that does not serve you? There are easy ways to fast track intimacy if you know what you’re doing and you both want to do it. The issue is, no one wants to go there but everyone says they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:47 PM
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I am an actor and a good one by all accounts, I know how to make myself look a certain way if I want to. I know what you’re talking about and I understand the psychology behind it, however, it is unnecessary if you’re willing to be honest, that is unfortunately not an acceptable strategy though. I do not want to have to act, especially around someone I’m dating. Performing is difficult. If I have to do it every time I’m with someone, its going to get old fast. I’ve done it before and it made thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 10:42 AM
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Not everyone is comfortable enough to act. Personally, I’d rather not have to watch my every move so that I don’t accidentally send the wrong body signal, besides, I’d rather the person knows how I really feel rather than some artificial imitation I found online and practiced in the mirror, but I know that’s what the game demands because we can’t just be honest with each other, everything has to be a play. But, if you break character, its over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:25 AM
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I have seen men do all manner of things to get the attention of women. I have done quite a few myself, but again, in my experience, when I have been less than confident in my approach, asked questions, or shown anything other than enthusiastic participation in sex, it has not gone well for me. I acknowledge that I may be in the minority and I do not throw myself at every woman in my immediate vicinity and I don’t go looking for hookups so my sample size is much smaller than some men, but my poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:14 AM
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Once you get to that point, sure, but up until then, you have to keep the confident alpha act going, then you shatter the illusion by checking in and saying “Is this ok? Do you like this?” You’re skipping a lot of steps though. For someone who has never participated in hookups or any of the surrounding culture, I don’t know what happens in between the dance floor or OLD service that you meet on and the bedroom. This is by choice because I have no interest in sex for sex’s sake (I know, incredibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 07:01 AM
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Really? I can gain practical sexual experience from watching youtube instructional videos? I’m sure those are super informative and helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:37 AM
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How is a guy supposed to learn if he rarely (if ever) gets the chance to touch a woman’s body? Going months and years without sex is not abnormal for the average man. At what point in his life will he get to experience female sexuality to a level that he’ll have an understanding that satisfies you? There’s no school for this. You can’t just put yourself on the market and open your legs as a man. No one is automatically good at anything, especially not something as individual and personal as sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:19 AM
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I’m not showing you a picture of someone I know just because you don’t believe that a man could be attracted to anything but a model body. That being said, none of them are overweight to an unhealthy degree, but neither would i say they put much work into maintaining a specific body image.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 09:23 AM
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They’re all happily in relationships with nerdy guys. I know a few that, were they single, I’d be one of the first in line, but girls like that are usually in high demand in their communities if they’re even somewhat outgoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 06:08 AM
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That is literally the definition of projection, you’re letting your past experiences (which are 100% valid and I understand why you’d feel the way you do) define how you treat men now. You can judge for yourself where and when its appropriate, but don’t blame anyone else for the way you cling to the past. I have a hard time trusting people because of how much I’ve been lied to in my life, but I acknowledge that it is my choice to believe it will happen again and worry about it. Take your power b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 06:02 AM
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This is the real issue here. There is a far more narrow expectation about what male behavior is. I think that’s one of the reason why you see a much larger portion of MTF trans people than FTM. If you can’t fit into some archetype of looks and behavior that women find appropriately masculine and attractive, that’s it, you’re instantly out of the game or worse, were never playing to begin with. Women don’t want a man who is expressive about his emotions or values intimacy (in general) even if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 05:54 AM
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Then the answer is yes, dating is always risky. You are, by definition, making yourself vulnerable and getting to know someone new. My point is (and i did go a little out to field there), unless someone has gone through extensive trouble to lie about themselves convincingly, there are ways to find out about people that can reduce risks. Take yourself off the market because you’re scared of bad bad men, you have every right to do that, but the reality is and always has been that strangers can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 10:33 PM
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The point is, a psychopath is a psychopath no matter what era you put them in. If that’s what you want to spend your days in fear of, that’s fine, but they are a minority and there are ways to protect yourself that are easier to access now than ever before. If you’re being stalked, you can film it and prove it. There are message logs. I can’t guarantee police will be able to help you because they’re pretty ineffective at protecting people, but you have a shot at least. That being said, that kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 10:26 PM
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You won’t find those stats. They didn’t track spousal abuse because it was simply understood that if your wife disobeyed you, you could beat her. Its in the damn bible. Furthermore, if some guy decided to rape you, he would face zero consequences. In fact, you would be the one cast out by your community. You want to go back to the 1950s? Fine, but I think you’ll find that no one will listen to you there. In fact, they’d probably tell you to shut up and let the men talk. In what way do you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 10:05 PM
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It was far more dangerous in the past for so many reasons. I literally can’t imagine what you might be thinking is worse these days. A psychopath who will put up any front to get close to you is a psychopath in 1500 just the same as 2019 and he’ll probably get away with it in 1500. You have every opportunity and resource these days to figure out who potential partners are. If you think they’re lying to you, there are usually avenues you can take to find out that didn’t even exist until 10 years …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:41 PM
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It used to be an easy feeling that came often, a little spark of inspiration that I could blow on until it started burning, but at this point, it does have to be a conscious choice I make. Its just as easy to leave someone be as it is to engage them. That being said, if I’m in love, I know because a conversation will end and I will have a million more things I want to tell her. I will not make that choice unless I feel I can trust the woman I’m with though and that has to do with mutual understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 03:40 AM
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You should have seen the comments section. Simps left and right.
/r/MGTOW04/11/19 10:47 PM
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Money changes people and attracts all kinds of attention, good and bad. It takes a special kind of person to understand when they’re being played in the way you describe, especially when you’re surrounded by people trying to maintain your public “image.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:21 AM
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Talk to them, figure out what kind of person they are. If they don’t want to tell you, they’re hiding something. Its not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 06:59 PM
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Average height for men is more like 5’7-5’8 but go ahead and manipulate the statistics to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:01 AM
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I’ve had 4 gay or bi men ask me out or offer me sex in the past couple months. I had one girl vaguely interested in me during that time. A big part of the ‘appeal’ is that men generally get on with other men and adding sex to that equation seems like a simple thing (which it obviously isn’t). That being said, its much easier to communicate with someone who’s intentions you understand rather than a woman who may or may not be into you and certainly won’t be upfront about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:22 AM
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Now put it all in one package and what do you have? A fairytale partner that is at least one in a million, easy to find right? Oh, wait, you didn’t even mention physical attractiveness... Oh, you’re talking about a ‘perfect’ man...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:17 AM
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Unfortunately, things are always defined by those minority extremists who talk more and louder than the majority of reasonable people who’ve gotten involved in the gender debate and that is what you’ll be exposed to as a new user in any of these communities. I don’t think MGTOW is a secret neo-nazi haven or anything like that, however, a considerable portion of the membership does support those ideals and that is what pushed me out of the sub along with the hateful rhetoric OP refers to. I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 12:08 AM
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Congrats? Call your nazi buddies quick before I rule the world!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:06 PM
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Some of the things you listed bothered me about MGTOW, but what ended my interest in the sub was the blatant antisemitism that gets thrown around all the time there because it attracts a certain kind of right-wing conservative that there are more and more of lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 05:18 PM
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I’m not uncomfortable moving to music, in fact, I feel quite free when I do because it has nothing to do with anyone else what my body does in response to the music, its a language I can understand and communicate in. Sexuality however does depend on what another person thinks of what I’m doing and that means I cannot be free about the interaction (even if that is the solution). Oh right, I’m not supposed to take choosing a partner seriously. Who am I kidding? As if what I want even matters here…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:37 AM
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That’s the definition of privilege, or is pointing that out whining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:57 AM
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But when women do it, it’s fine. They totally have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:47 AM
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Nope. You’re wrong on so many levels I question your ability to be rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:46 AM
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This. Even if they’re attracted to me, it never goes any further than that. They have no desire to relate to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:43 AM
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Literally everyone has trouble finding worthwhile partners and friends. Good people that you can get on with are rare regardless of whether or not you want to fuck them. Women still have a much easier route to this because they can sit and wait for a suitable guy to come along if they want to, or, take the initiative and do what men do. The difference is, men can never sit back. Even if you’re attractive, its still unlikely for a woman be brave enough to defy social convention and put herself in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:34 AM
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Men have this literal same problem. You’re proving your privilege with your assumption that a man will fuck anything that moves just because it has holes. We want to be with someone we’re attracted to and who we feel is special, we just don’t usually have the power to make that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:21 AM
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I’ve loved many women who I never fucked and some that I did. Whether or not that feeling was ever reciprocated to the point where intimacy beyond sex was even possible, I can’t say. Sex is a minimum. If you want to be in a relationship with me, I’m assuming that’s because on some level you find me sexually attractive. If you act counter to that assumption, I’m going to be obviously confused and I will start to question your intentions, our relationship, and my involvement in it. Even if I’m bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 06:58 AM
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Being a person who they find attractive, emotionally, sexually, or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 06:37 AM
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Yes, the love-at-first-sight and fairytale bullshit we’ve been sold our whole lives looks real nice compared with what we get. Yes, most women and men buy into it on some level and everything is fucked as a result. Yes, thinking individuals realize this and would like to know what’s actually happening too. These things are not mutually exclusive, they can all be true. Men can want the same kind of fake romance while understanding that this is not literally the case in reality, just like women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:17 AM
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Did I say anything about “safe” spaces? You’re purposefully misinterpreting my comment to talk about your opinion, but I’ll respond anyway because I don’t entirely disagree. That being said, an angry comment is an angry comment and does no one any good. The funny thing is, any forum or group brought together around a central idea will have its own politics and acceptable discussion topics (i.e. your “safe space”). MGTOW is a great example because god forbid you take any stance that puts women (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:55 PM
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Its designed for content that isn’t opinion-based which leaves most of the important information in that section, which, when you’re researching a topic, can save you a lot of time finding articles relevant to the subject. I agree that it’s tedious, but also necessary for pieces written for academia (and not for entertainment).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 06:16 AM
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Its the model they’re taught to present information in. Every academic paper is preceded by an abstract that explains what the paper is about. When you get used to the format, it kinda happens automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 05:46 AM
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I think he put everything that we know in a nice box while providing solid examples that are often used within the communities he’s covering. Its very telling that he takes the time to talk about how science and scientific thought are among the first things to get dropped in this debate. As anyone who has spent any time in TRP, MGTOW, TBP, etc. knows, personal attacks are the most popular kind of argument and are often the first thing included in a comment discussion (even if the rest of the arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 03:08 AM
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Too many men use it as an excuse to be hateful towards women (and jews apparently) instead of actually going their own way and finding a method of living that doesn’t revolve around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 10:03 PM
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Lmfao, now you’re pulling the Jewish privilege argument? I didn’t know there were SJWs on this sub too.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 10:33 PM
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You’re right, i didn’t include the millions of gypsies, pols, and other victims of the holocaust because they had nothing to do with the point I was making which is that you can be hated for a lot more than skin color and that hasn’t changed. Especially not here apparently.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 10:23 PM
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Were you up all night waiting for me to give you attention? I’m sorry, I didn’t know that’s how you felt about me, but I have nothing more to say to someone as ignorant and hateful as you.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 10:21 PM
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A lot of dudes are here to express their anger and frustration at women and the current social hierarchy that exists, some are just angry and use it as an excuse to be bigots openly. Assholes pollute everything.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 12:58 PM
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So you believe that stories made up by people that hated Jews are good reference material? Listen, if you want to hate Jews, be my guest, I can’t stop you, but don’t pretend you were making a clever joke.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 09:25 AM
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Think before you type please. Now everyone knows you’re practically illiterate on top of being an absolute twat. I even did you the courtesy of investigating your claim that Dracula was a Jew and aside from a single scene in the Bela Lugosi film, there is nothing in his lore to even suggest that, so I’m not sure where that even came from other than pure bigotry.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 09:11 AM
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Haha, antisemitism is so funny you guys!
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 08:59 AM
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Can you blame him though? In a society where labels are everything, how do you categorize someone with middle eastern heritage who has light skin? Its the spot where the feminist logic all falls apart. How can you judge a Jew, a member of the most discriminated and hated group in history, for being white? You’ll never hear SJWs talk about Jews for a reason, easier to ignore them entirely than accept that less than a hundred years ago, they were being slaughtered by the millions and are facing a …
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 08:54 AM
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Every single time. Its not worth it.
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 07:49 AM
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UBI functions better for the average working person than a minimum wage increase. It puts spending money in every person’s pocket that normally is held by giant corps. More money in the hands of the consumers gives them real power to influence the market. The fact that is it guaranteed takes a huge amount of stress off of everyone who is struggling in this country.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 12:20 PM
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I always put empathy in conjunction with sympathy because of how often they get confused, but the projection point is an important distinction as well. I define them as follows: Sympathy- feeling bad for someone’s perceived situation and telling them, “wow, that’s bad.” It doesn’t specifically help with anything, but it can be nice to get occasionally. It generally happens automatically for anything we perceive as smaller or weaker than us. Empathy- taking extra effort to not judge based on your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:50 PM
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If that is the case and you truly have been empathic, the issue is that you are in the vast minority here in that you show men understanding and empathy. It is only natural that any animal who has been starved for affection of any kind will easily get attached to the first animal that chooses to show that missing affection. Its because of the rarity of the act that they respond that way. Men also tend to be “all or nothing” in their relationships and I’m making a huge generalization here, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:02 AM
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If the goal is to save face while still having casual sex, that man is going to respect you less for choosing someone else over him in almost every situation. He is going to be stuck wondering what he did wrong that you chose to find intimacy elsewhere, especially if there is some level of a relationship between you (even if sex was not his mind initially). If all you’re looking for is a casual fling, that should be made clear. Same can be said for building a relationship. What you can’t do is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:00 AM
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Men receive a great deal less physical and emotional contact in their daily lives. Its no wonder that having that level of intimacy with the person they want to be with is important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:55 PM
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And if a man also prioritizes relationships and commitment and you treat him like all he’s after is sex, then you’re invalidating everything that he’s done when you fail to commit and bang another, hotter dude. You don’t even leave space for men having ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:49 PM
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He’s disposable and worthless, so therefore you should give him exactly what he wants. That’ll teach him. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but there is a clear break in the logic of that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:42 PM
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What does that even mean?
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 12:45 AM
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What your personal beliefs are and what happens in church are two completely different things. I urge you to look into cult movements and multilevel marketing schemes if you’re genuinely curious. Saying, “Anything is possible.” Every morning to yourself is not the same as being in a crowded room with an apparent authority figure saying the same thing while everyone cheers. At that point, anything can be true because according to your brain, everyone else is believing it too. All those self-help …
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 09:30 AM
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Pseudo-philosophical bs designed to make your brain make happy chemicals. Its a very specific kind of rhetoric that very rarely can be questioned because nothing real is ever said. The people who get really into astrology and numerology are the most susceptible to it, but religious nuts are everywhere.
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 10:21 PM
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/r/vaporwaveaesthetics
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 08:15 AM
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90% are mercy mains and only heal the two guys in their party
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 01:59 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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