thedeliberative Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Geoffrey Rush wins $1.9m payout on #MeToo defamation case Guess so	/r/MensRights	06/07/19 05:10 PM
1	Geoffrey Rush wins $1.9m payout on #MeToo defamation case we?	/r/MensRights	06/07/19 03:41 PM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men Yes, we structure it by impacting their incentives.	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 10:23 PM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men That's clearly not the only way. We can also change rules, laws, policies, and other forms of incentive.	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 12:24 PM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men It is exactly what you said. You said that assigning responsibility due to external pressure would be wrong. But clearly you are wrong: people's choices are always impacted by external pressure, and that can both explain and sometimes mitigate the choices. I am saying that it is explains the choices. I am not making a claim about diminish responsibility: simply that it explains it. Then we have a duty to reduce pressure on both men and women.	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 11:29 AM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men I am saying that those features - that men are pressured to work and women to be flexible with the family - are in large ways socially constructed. And this is what drives the pay gap. Both are unfair, to men and women. Men should be able to stay home, and women to support the family. Men should be able to chose family and women work. Changing these norms is tough, but the fact that there is a huge amount of variation in the world tell us things can be done.	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 11:21 AM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men I have no idea how you can say which group is choosing 'more freely', nor what that would have to do with changing the norms underlying both men's and women's roles. I am also not sure what 'rights' are being claimed. Could you try to clarify this?	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 11:07 AM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men The idea that we make choices in a vacuum from from social and external pressure is the terrible one. People have choice, but structured by norms and incentives. It doesn't diminish responsibility, but we also have a responsibility to think about those norms and change them if needs be.	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 11:02 AM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men Who said unanimous decision? The point is, exactly as you say, that social pressures exist. There is a norm of men working hard and women being supportive. These norms, in part, drive the choices we make and, therefore, the pay gap.	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 10:54 AM
1	New Harvard study debunks gender pay gap: women earn less because they choose to work less than men Both are forms of pressure; no one (except maybe radical feminists) would deny that. The point is that this pressure is what causes the gender-pay gap and it is therefore not as simple as these authors make it out to be (i.e. it is all just 'a choice').	/r/MensRights	25/11/18 10:28 AM