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The dude thinks way too much and I bet doesn’t take enough messy action. Don’t be needy and I’ll add that it adds to the “expectation” vibe to give her your number. Needy asks. Expects gives
/r/seduction12/03/21 06:31 AM
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This is good that you’re challenging your mental patterns but it’s only partway there bc you’re still doing it with one eye looking about to see if any women are interested
/r/seduction08/03/21 11:30 PM
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What the heck is “the one”?
/r/seduction08/03/21 11:28 PM
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Nothing
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:31 AM
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Seems like your attention is more on other men than women! Sure you’re hetero?
/r/seduction14/12/20 05:44 PM
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TLDR: stop the self rejection. Be a good, positive guy
/r/seduction11/12/20 07:45 PM
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The fact that you did this makes me think he did the right thing
/r/seduction08/12/20 01:45 PM
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“Emulates...” This is the crux of your problem right here. If you start emulating something you’re not, you will forever emulate. How about taking the time to learn who you are. Learn self respect and self love without needing external validation. Bet on yourself. One way to do this is do things that challenges yourself; tests your mettle, what you’re made of. Appreciate who you are and constantly develop the parts of yourself and your life that are lacking (by YOUR standards). Which leads to do…
/r/seduction28/11/20 01:55 AM
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This should have more upvotes. But it makes sense that it doesn’t. This thinking goes against most guys social conditioning that said to please women and respect them simply for being alive; fawn after them because they have a pussy. Those same people who demand respect for the reasons which you gave, also seek out those who suffer from the same ailment
/r/seduction25/11/20 01:00 AM
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Lol. What makes you think sex and attention is a huge return? Over-inflation based on the warped of perception of value by simps. Truth is it’s who has true buying power that puts value in something. Look at it this way: I want a burger. There’s two burger places across the street from one another. They both truly believe in their hearts that they have the best burgers in town. And this is fine, but this perceived value is only legitimized by the buyers. Maybe I want to try from both places and …
/r/seduction25/11/20 12:51 AM
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Most guys will read this and simply try it, thinking if they can at least make the girl believe he doesn’t give a fuck that he will get laid. That’s still neediness and even worse because is lying on top of it- to her and to the self. You really must not care. Not to be confused with apathy.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:52 AM
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Most of this except the first one is blaming the other person to make you feel better for being rejected. Dudes, rejection is part of life itself. If you can’t handle it then don’t play. If you want to play, get used to it. Everyone is entitled to their preferences and if ghosting isn’t in your code of acceptable behavior then don’t do it. But you or I are in no place of authority to tell other people how to be. Just stay in your lane and only do what aligns with your principles and fuck what ot…
/r/seduction20/11/20 05:38 PM
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There is a fool proof way: Stop investing emotionally so soon, just because someone is giving you attention. Address your insecurity. Stop giving a shit so much about what other people do. Their life is just as important as yours and they have free will. It’s up to you to determine what behavior you find acceptable or not.
/r/seduction20/11/20 05:06 PM
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Right, so ignore being able to arouse a woman with your words, just stare at her from across a store—-like a creep, thinking she’s interested when she doesn’t do or say anything to indicate that. Maybe in your head you’re mAkinG A CunEkshUn but really you’re a weirdo who just keeps staring at people because you have no social skills and she’s looking at you to see if you’re staring at her.....again. Stop justifying staring at people like fkn creeps. Learn how to talk to women. If you’re too scar…
/r/seduction15/11/20 09:44 PM
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You still need to approach women (irl is best) and know how to arouse them with your words
/r/seduction14/11/20 11:11 PM
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Never let anyone be the decider of your value. That’s what’s wrong with you young guys today. You don’t even see the obvious problem I’m trying to point out.
/r/seduction13/11/20 12:38 PM
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Maybe it’s a typo but it literally says “let the other person decide”. No guy should ever think like this. Frankly most guys here could do with whole lot less thinking period
/r/seduction13/11/20 01:12 AM
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I get that part. It’s the part I put in italics that doesn’t make sense
/r/seduction12/11/20 10:38 PM
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Don’t decide for yourself that you’re not good enough. Let the other person decide you’re not good enough? What the hell is this?
/r/seduction12/11/20 05:47 PM
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Confidence has nothing to do with it. Do I need confidence to not believe in the dragon you say that lives in your back yard? No. I don’t even think about dragons. The only time it is in my mind even briefly is when you tell me about your dragon. Same with leagues. Thinking confidence has something to do with it actually strengthens the concept of leagues. Because you’re presenting something in opposition to the concepts, therefore strengthening the concept. If the concept doesn’t exist there’s …
/r/seduction12/11/20 06:34 AM
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No it’s not. To me that’s like saying dragons are something to be aware of. I’ve never seen leagues, never operated with their conception in mind to alter my choices. I know of it now but only through people talking about it. What’s interesting is you don’t care.
/r/seduction12/11/20 04:37 AM
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Why are you worrying about what “some girls” think. What do you think? That’s all that matters. A concept of leagues is just that- a concept. A thought. A perceptual construct. Which means it’s real only so far as you believe it is. Your beliefs will dictate many of your behaviors. So guys who believe in a league, will place themselves within that paradigm as well as everyone else and will operate accordingly. In walks self doubt, social anxiety, fear, comparison, etc etc. Similarly many people …
/r/seduction12/11/20 03:49 AM
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I do it when I feel like it. Just like on the street or a store. I keep no more than three on a rotation bc more than that cuts into my time too much. I always express sexual/romantic interest when I talk to them. I make that very clear without being garish or rude. I remain true to my nature. Not being that I’d be lying to myself and her. Never heard of Pierre Tan.
/r/seduction11/11/20 10:33 PM
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Where are you getting chasing from? All of this began with me saying: use facebook so you can talk to women. That’s it. The best in the game and even my own mentors need to make an effort. Chasing as you might know isn’t in the behavior per se but more in the mind behind it. On the surface they might look the same. Neither of us mentioned chasing. Put your bid in sure. But no pussy is worth that much effort. Who did you coach under?
/r/seduction11/11/20 09:58 PM
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It’s not a joke. There are all kinds of people here but few to none are top percenters. I’m here bc this is where I get some of my clients. I’m here for banter, insight and to help others. The list you made of other things that are attractive are indeed attractive. I didn’t say going for what you want was the only thing that’s attractive. However being in that mindset and spirit that allows a guy to become a man and achieve all the things you listed is what’s attractive (building a business, sel…
/r/seduction11/11/20 06:45 PM
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There’s nothing bad about waiting at all. Fact of the matter is unless you are at the top percent of men (and actually know how to turn women on with your words as well) you’ll not get much dates and lays with Tinder. And if you were at the top percent you wouldn’t be here. Yes you can wait. You can also exercise your ability to hunt. Seeking out isnt fucking. This is why the lion analogy isn’t bad. A massive turn on for most women is a guy who knows what he wants and goes after it. How can you …
/r/seduction11/11/20 05:46 PM
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Yes Tinder is putting yourself out there but it’s passive and waiting for algorithms and matching from women. The FB app and maybe a couple others allow you to message a woman right then and there. No need to wait for a match first. If you know how to put flavor in a woman’s ears and eyes it’s vastly more useful than Tinder. I told you to relax bc my original post has to do with approaching women online and making the move to talk to them and equated that with a lion going after a zebra. You act…
/r/seduction11/11/20 02:22 PM
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Relax But if you want to wait around on tinder for matches be my guest. If I want to talk to a woman I’m going to do it. That is what I mean about a lion not waiting for choosing signals from a zebra. It just does it. You won’t know what zebras want to be caught unless you come out the cave a put in some effort.
/r/seduction11/11/20 01:02 PM
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Todd V wasn’t always like that friend. He changed after the pick up scene was blown up by RSD when they lost respect and became a self help thing. He changed his thing just like everyone else and jumped on the bandwagon. Pick up didn’t change you. If any changes occurred, you changed you. Learning push pull didn’t do that. COPYING another dude who did some shit online did not change you. PUA game shit can bring you to awareness of self but you have to be able to see it. A lot of guys get stuck e…
/r/seduction10/11/20 07:15 PM
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There’s no such thing as leagues
/r/seduction10/11/20 06:16 PM
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If you go on the FB app on your phone just press the three bars on the bottom right and you’ll see it
/r/seduction10/11/20 06:15 PM
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You get it. I will agree that there’s no formula but I will say there is a system. I’m working on it now for my coaching business. It’s a series of categories with specific questions in each that when worked through by the client, they reach their own individual conclusions to their development problems which then leads to more homework in developing the solutions. But it all starts with self knowledge and the right mindset. What’s ironic is that once a man figures out what the game really is an…
/r/seduction10/11/20 06:13 PM
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I don’t leave it up to her. I don’t wait for approval to speak to a woman irl or online. It’s about what I want. If she says no then that’s fine but I’m not waiting around for matches. Does a lion wait for choosing signals when it’s hungry for zebra meat?
/r/seduction10/11/20 05:36 PM
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And it’s not just keeping them around. You know you’re on it when they are literally addicted to your presence. PUA doesn’t fundamentally change who you are. But who you are is the problem. Guys like Todd V who are selling products very well know the problem but choose to sell the techniques end of things which only prolongs the underlying problem. For if the underlying problem is addressed, then there’s no need to buy the products. It’s really insidious. The real development is a pyramid. At th…
/r/seduction10/11/20 05:14 PM
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Thanks for your candid response. And not pandering to social expectations of being fair and balanced. A large chunk of young dudes problems lie in believing the social narrative and identifying with it. This is because they don’t know themselves because they never took the time to actually figure it out. Black guys have their own narrative to challenge. As do Asians. As do Indians. You said it yourself “Asian men are the least desirable race”. This is not a mental construct you were born with. Y…
/r/seduction10/11/20 03:19 PM
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Exactly. PUA is shit bc it’s a temporary band-aid for a bigger problem which is the guy trying the PUA shit. They do that bc they don’t know themselves. If they did, they wouldn’t need any “tools”. And I asked OP how long he could keep that PUA mask on? Hours, sure. But days? Weeks? Months? Eventually the mask will come off and she’ll be disappointed and upset at herself for being fooled. Men, real men. Don’t seek to fool women. They don’t care enough about women to even try.
/r/seduction10/11/20 02:33 PM
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A lot of guys, and seemingly yourself as well will always be one step behind women. This is because before learning game you either chased women physically or mentally. Then you learn game but are still chasing women. Real muthafuckin game has nothing to do with women. It’s all about the man. Sure you put your bid in once in a while with your attuned natural sexual intent but it’s not a focus of life. Nowadays young dudes literally drive themselves insane worrying about LMS bullshit, arguing ove…
/r/seduction10/11/20 02:04 PM
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Yes. Essentially a man who is in touch with himself and his sexual nature. Think, 1960s James Bond (RIP). Did he ever use techniques? No. He was just walking sexual energy. He didn’t doubt himself. He didn’t pander to women. He had complete confidence in who he was. And who he was wasn’t a spy. That’s what he did. Who he was, was the driver of that “car” so to speak.
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:38 PM
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The advices John gave you are parts of the base of that pyramid. He didn’t even show you the whole thing. Essentially you are, as I said: waking up to the understanding that you need a developed sense of self first above all else. Women come after you in terms of importance. Everyone does. John gave you a nibble of a much bigger pie
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:12 AM
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I have no idea what natural game is. I operate as I am with authenticity. Perhaps my techniques lie in what I do to make them very aroused simply by talking to them. But it’s coming from me. I didn’t learn any moves. It’s a whole mindset. And it becomes like a drug to women when you’re like this. But Do what makes you happy though. I do know because I’m seasoned, that eventually your hat will have to come off. You can play pick-up guy at a club or for same day lays. But what are you going to do …
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:05 AM
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Yes basically you are realizing that you never fully established your foundation. It’s a pyramid: at the very bottom is self knowledge. Then it’s intention/energy. Next level up is mindset, followed by system, then skills, then tools. Most young guys go straight for the tools and skills thinking “oh that’s what I need to get women”. Then when it doesn’t work they get discouraged or pissed off. It didn’t work because they never laid the foundation of the first three. They don’t know who they are,…
/r/seduction10/11/20 12:44 AM
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I’m 43 and have been around the block quite a bit. When my son goes to Highschool I’m going to tell him to do two things: develop self discipline (which I’m introducing now at 9) and learn what your codes are and live by them. Self discipline is the heart of everything. Without it you let the environment and the people in it (including women) dictate what you do. There’s a lot to it but that’s all I can say for now. To get an example for what codes are look up various warrior codes: Bushido, Mar…
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:12 PM
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You could do all that and still be a bitch. It starts with your mindset and self love to a degree of worship. I know many guys who make multiple six figures, are very good looking but rest on these external aspects. I’m not saying to not build your external. I’m saying that to do that most successfully one must have a proper foundation of self worth coming from a place of nakedness. Loving who you are with no fancy clothes, no money, no fancy job, no muscles. Just the relationship to yourself. B…
/r/seduction08/11/20 05:02 PM
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What do you mean, “league”? What is this?
/r/seduction08/11/20 04:58 PM
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I’m getting that you’re in your mid 20’s and are seeing the futility of how you’ve been doing things. You’ve been through the flings and want to feel valued. Something to ask yourself is: “what do I bring to the table?” Would you know how to conduct yourself in the presence of a real man? Do you know what you have beyond your looks? Do you know what your values, principles and codes are? Do you live them? This is how men (not males) think. Also consider dating up in age. Early to mid 30’s is a g…
/r/seduction07/11/20 05:41 PM
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I’m getting that you’re in your mid 20’s and are seeing the futility of how you’ve been doing things. You’ve been through the flings and want to feel valued. Something to ask yourself is: “what do I bring to the table?” Would you know how to conduct yourself in the presence of a real man? Do you know what you have beyond your looks? Do you know what your values, principles and codes are? Do you live them? This is how men (not males) think. Also consider dating up in age. Early to mid 30’s is a g…
/r/seduction07/11/20 05:41 PM
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It’s fine to have high standards. But understand that drastically shrinks your choices. So don’t complain for being lonely for months or even years
/r/seduction07/11/20 05:26 PM
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Why you worrying about what other guys are doing? Does nothing for you. How about you learn to make yourself the measuring stick instead of a bunch of strangers on reddit who could very well tell you lies which will skew your perception?
/r/seduction06/11/20 11:02 PM
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100%. Although I will say at times some dudes need a punch in the chest more than they need a pat on the ass
/r/seduction06/11/20 05:44 PM
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You don’t ask for numbers. You give yours. And next time you approach a woman out of the blue, have some common sense and courtesy to say “excuse me” when greeting them
/r/seduction06/11/20 03:33 PM
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The problem is 1) girls don’t give a shit about all that stuff when it comes to needs. Wants perhaps but not needs. They need to feel. They want to feel excited, they want to blush and laugh and get turned on. Your list of traits and hobbies won’t turn them on much like a resume won’t turn her on. 2) You simply don’t know yourself, think too much about what others (especially women) think of you and you have no verbal game. And what I mean about verbal game isn’t lines and shit. I mean genuinely…
/r/seduction30/10/20 05:29 AM
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“How about hummer?!”
/r/seduction29/10/20 04:30 PM
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Scream in her face
/r/seduction29/10/20 02:32 PM
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You clearly don’t and that’s the wrong question
/r/seduction28/10/20 11:58 AM
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Ask the right question
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:57 AM
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Here’s the thing: you think you’re the “bad boy here”. You’re not. You’re complacent and have accepted mediocrity. Great men in history didn’t accept fuck all. They sought improvement be it internally or externally. But you know what? It’s just like my mentor says: “not everyone is cut out for this game”.
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:35 AM
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This is true but it doesn’t mean you’re good to go. Knowing who you are, having principles and boundaries, building what you want to build bc you want to build it, knowing how to effectively turn women on without caring 1000% if she says no, all take development and care and self devotion!
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:29 AM
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I don’t think you’ve actually done much other than mask one poor behavior with another. Change comes from self love. Self love is looking in the mirror and saying “you’re a sexy mutha fucka. I love me”. When you give a shit about yourself and believe in yourself, that’s when change can take place. Your efforts failed bc the foundation of self value is weak. You just beat yourself up bc you don’t have self value. So instead of doing what you know needed doing you’d ignore it. Which in turn would …
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:19 AM
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I’ll have to strongly disagree with you as an experienced man who’s been with numerous women. Forget labels like alpha and beta. I call it a man who stands on his square. If he is such a way that the woman can relax and feel safe but also a bit of that, not sure what to call it, it’s not fear, excitement maybe? But it’s a secondary feeling when with a dominant man that sides with the comfort but is the opposite of comfort. When this happens, she submits. Of course many many other factors are in …
/r/seduction24/10/20 04:08 PM
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Very. And unnecessarily complicated
/r/seduction23/10/20 11:42 AM
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It started out ok but quickly slid down the hill. All you smooth muthafckas should be giving women your number. You don’t need anything from her. But you are dope and she caught your eye such that you want to take a brief moment of your time to talk to her. You are not in need of her affection or attention bc she would be joining the roster of a few girls already. So instead of showing any kind of neediness (bc you don’t have need for pussy/validation) you give her your number. You say it was ni…
/r/seduction23/10/20 11:37 AM
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The issue was never about consent. And yes that’s exactly how sex for men works (not males mind you). Real mthrfkn men who got game who have more than one woman to pick from. This happens when a man is in demand for his time. It’s at that point that he can choose who he wants as casual or not. If for instance he says “my time will be casual with you”, then of course she always has the right to walk on or to say ok.
/r/seduction23/10/20 12:44 AM
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This is backwards. YOU as the man decide if you want it to be casual or not. But this first requires women lining up to be on your dick and occupy your time- which requires you to be solid in who you are with a great mouthpiece
/r/seduction22/10/20 03:52 PM
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And that’s because a women isn’t gonna want to fuck you based on your looks. She’ll react based on how you make her feel. And you don’t have a mouthpiece and can’t turn women on with your words. Nor do you have a sense of self worth in a vacuum (meaning devoid of external inputs). These things combined and they can tell you ain’t shit the moment you start walking toward them. You know why? Bc whether you got there after them or they got there after you, they have already scanned the room for pot…
/r/seduction18/10/20 11:02 PM
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Fucking a lot of women and being honest about it isn’t womanizing. Womanizing is lying, manipulating and abusing women
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:05 PM
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You can set the stage however you want. You can have a steady if you come across one that you can tolerate and is willing to be on your program. This of course means you need to be solid in who you are at all times. Then you let her know that you’ll be either fucking some other chicks on the side or you’ll be bringing in another woman from time to time
/r/seduction14/10/20 05:19 PM
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This is about 66 matches per week. Which if you kept up the experiment equates to roughly 3,466 matches per year. You must be Zac Efron.
/r/seduction13/10/20 01:17 PM
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And how many lead to their face down in the pillow? I call bullshit.
/r/seduction13/10/20 01:10 PM
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Cool. Simply put, men worship themselves more than they worship women or anyone else. Where do you see that in this sub? Not very often if ever.
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:12 PM
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Marcus Aurelius created the Roman Empire. He did it for himself not for a woman, not for his peers. It’s because he said “I’m the fucking king!” Or let’s look at a more down to earth example. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Small european town, went on to become a multi winning bodybuilding champ, learned English, became a Hollywood Star then a governor. He did this for himself. Why? For the validation from women. Sounds stupid right? No, he did it because he had standards that he set before himself. Thi…
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:00 PM
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Take a look at the majority of the posts here. They are absolutely looking for women to validate their self worth. Most young guys and many older ones have no relationship with themselves, no clue as to who they are. They feel anxious and depressed and think this has something to do with women. So they chase women bc having the closeness of a woman feels like things are better. When she goes away, what happens? There you are again, feeling lonely, depressed and anxious. The self is the problem. …
/r/seduction12/10/20 02:27 PM
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Only if he relies on it and it’s a main focus. This leads to over attention and obsessive thinking. To a man with self knowledge, women are a small life accessory. For a coarse example, how much do you think Arnold’s Conan the Barbarian thinks of women? What the guy thinks of himself is the #1 most important thing he has. Men think highly of themselves. Guys think only what others give them permission to think of themselves. Men don’t chase women. Men don’t need women. Sure they like them- love …
/r/seduction12/10/20 01:00 PM
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Life is not fair. However the unattractive guy (or the guy who thinks he’s unattractive) only has this perspective bc he is worried more about what others think. His awareness is outside himself. He hands over his power to the perceptions of others. Men, no matter how they look, don’t give a fuck what others think of them. Or are you under the assumption only good looking guys can be men? Happiness? This won’t come from another person anyway. He who feels this way is not a man and has no knowled…
/r/seduction12/10/20 12:49 PM
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This is absolutely true. Thankfully truly ugly men are not as common as one would think. Ugly guys and hot guys are on the lower parts of the bell curve. Most fall on the peak. And you are right about the guys in the novels. They are idealized hunks. But again, understand that when a woman sees a hot guy, it triggers differently in her mind compared to when a guy sees a hot woman. The problem most guys have is they think women see attractiveness the same way they do. They don’t. Women have incre…
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:59 AM
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That’s good of you. You are not average then. They all want a hot fuck. But you seem to be short sighted. This is fine bc you are young. A hot fuck does happen due to being hot. But that’s not the top form. The top form is her obsession with you. How you make her feel has nothing to do with your character. You could be talking to her and making her wet with your words and you could be a deviant or a Boy Scout. Character doesn’t matter. You know why women like attractive men? Two reasons: 1) it p…
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:26 AM
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Yes and as I responded in a previous comment, looks have a limit. Is that the end? Just having girls approach you? What then? If he has no sense of self he’s cooked. Maybe he’ll get laid from time to time with little effort but that’s not the end is it. The end is having women who can’t get enough of the drug that is you. That drug comes from how they feel when they spend time with you. I’m old enough, coached enough guys and have seen enough posts on reddit, YouTube, IG, Twitter etc, to confide…
/r/seduction12/10/20 02:48 AM
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Indeed this is true. Every guy can get farther by learning how to arouse a woman with his words whether he’s ugly, average or hot. The problem most guys have is they compare themselves to other dudes. They are also plagued with low self value, esteem and worth. Little skills beyond white hat hacking and a dozen head shots on COD.
/r/seduction12/10/20 01:24 AM
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Nope. It’s not about having personality. It’s about having a great understanding of self and a great understanding of women. Arousal is key. Arousal is not just for the bedroom. Actually arousal is even more potent when used skillfully during mundane interactions. Most guys have no clue how to do this. A personality does nothing for the g spot between her ears
/r/seduction12/10/20 12:54 AM
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Exactly. Looks are good for attraction but really do nothing for arousal
/r/seduction12/10/20 12:47 AM
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It’s only a factor at the initial stage. After that it’s all about what kind of relationship the guy has with himself. Essentially if he is a man or not. I used to be a personal trainer and worked with a couple of male models. They had girls hitting them up all the time but our conversations were constantly about being dumped and ghosted over and over. Why? Bc while they looked amazing, they had no idea how to hook women; how to engage their emotions; how to keep them wanting more of their time.…
/r/seduction12/10/20 12:45 AM
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But only to gain interest
/r/seduction12/10/20 12:37 AM
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Ok, it’s not about creating comfort it’s about creating arousal. Girls are fine, they can take care of themselves. You young dudes need to get this “creep” mentality out of your head. Girls like to have fun. Comfort isn’t fun. Becoming buddies isn’t fun. Getting turned on is fun. Getting wet is fun. You hit her up, introduce yourself. Make a comment about something you like about her from the shoulders up. Then you tell her an honest why you are contacting her. I usually tell them that I’m inter…
/r/seduction10/10/20 04:20 AM
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No. Every other guy is either gushing or leaving fire emojis or trying to be casual. I am direct and make it known of my sexual intent. It’s never a problem for me. Never been blocked or unfollowed and I get dates about 30% of the time. Considering the type of stage (IG) I’d say that’s pretty good. Albeit, I do not use social media to pick up women very much bc I am somewhat of a public figure.
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:20 AM
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Wait, so dont message a girl you’re interested in? Lol
/r/seduction09/10/20 11:43 PM
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I agree. It’s a matter of if you are such that she can’t resist chasing regardless of whether she is afraid to or not.
/r/seduction07/10/20 12:41 AM
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Yes- understand that your problem goes beyond having a woman. Women aren’t your problem and will not act as a solution. Not dealing with this before you get a woman will likely result in codependency and/or living in the relationship according to her terms. So dig in and figure out why you need this hole filled and where it came from in the first place. Also, a seduction sub might not be the best place to solve your problem
/r/seduction07/10/20 12:16 AM
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Now you’re getting somewhere. Time to do research and also get in touch with your sexual nature. Allow the thoughts and express them with your words. Compliments without strings is an easy place to start. You don’t want her approval or even thanks. Go on YouTube and watch how Craig Ferguson talks to his female guests. Also check out Russell Brand and his flirtation style. Two key things both of these guys have are: 1) not being afraid to talk about sex and sexy topics/tone. 2) they speak to amus…
/r/seduction06/10/20 11:24 PM
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Everything you just said, validated all that I said. You’re afraid of women and are afraid of what they think of you. You walk around believing you’ve got an unattractive trait that every girl notices. Having this thought about yourself knocks you down a peg even before you’ve started any talking. You literally called it a weakness. This belief will hamper you because beliefs dictate behaviors. If you care so much about this she will sense it. You don’t care about her major. That’s a lie. How do…
/r/seduction06/10/20 08:28 PM
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“I’m quite short so if I go in directly, most girls have reservations” This quote right here shows a lot. It shows that the op (was it you?) has his mind in her assumed mind. This means he is prioritizing what he thinks she thinks over what he thinks. A losing mans habit. In a larger, deeper sense it reveals that he doesn’t know who he is and essentially doesn’t trust and rely on that knowledge as his compass. Logistics of her being single? Who cares. If I a man likes what he sees he talks to he…
/r/seduction06/10/20 06:52 PM
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This is from a reply of mine from another post. I thought the info would be of use to you I know you’re young but you are putting way to much importance on women and your feelings. It’s good you are challenging your fears but don’t go thinking that will create the desired outcome. It likely won’t but that shouldn’t matter anyway. You are in a mental prison and conditioning of wanting approval. A key aspect to getting what you want from women is actually caring less and not giving a shit what the…
/r/seduction06/10/20 02:14 PM
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Indirect is fear based. You also have your mind set up that you will be rejected even before you approach. You have handed all your power as a man over to the pussy.
/r/seduction06/10/20 01:18 PM
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Um no you don’t need female friends to get a girlfriend. Men do the choosing. If he wants her in his life after vetting her for a year or more then she is allowed to be his girlfriend. What’s that’s got to do with having female buddies?
/r/seduction06/10/20 01:15 PM
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Nope. Actually I think you might be trolling for a pat on the back. Your mindset is where it should be. There is no honest logic to being friends with a girl that you want to date or fuck. Most guys here are dishonest with themselves and think it’s fine to be buddies with a girl they are secretly interested in so eventually “when the time is right” they will “make a move” lol. They are scared and want to take the safest road possible. They literally invite themselves into the friendzone You’re d…
/r/seduction06/10/20 01:13 PM
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Oh by no means am I saying your experience and knowledge is of no value to you. I’m saying that just by time alone your experience is objectively limited. At 21 your number of partners and life experiences are fairly low (as they should be). This is no insult. You can only speak on what you know. What I’m saying is you don’t know what you don’t know.
/r/seduction05/10/20 09:00 PM
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You don’t understand bc you’re still very young. You will see more as you age and get more experience under your belt. When you come across a man (not just a human with a penis) you will see what I mean. Until then you’re stuck with your limited experience. When a young woman comes across an authentic man who is on top of his shit and doesn’t cater his life to winning the affections of women, the woman knows she’s discovered something truly rare and works to not lose it. She does many things he …
/r/seduction05/10/20 08:49 PM
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Even better, actually don’t give a shit if she likes you or not instead of pretending
/r/seduction05/10/20 08:36 PM
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Some of this is ok. But it’s generalistic and hasn’t much detail about the importance of leading. Leading himself, leading the relationship and leading her. It has nothing in the way of sexual communication. Having regular conversation is a fast track to having a dry woman who doesn’t want you. This is fine advice but it is again, general and lacking in the more sophisticated details. And as they say “the devil is in the details”
/r/seduction05/10/20 08:34 PM
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That’s implying that women know what they want. In my numerous dates, lays, interactions and relationships, most women do not know what they want under the age of 40. If a guy has a solid base and knows how to lead the relationship, she will more often than not change who she is to be with him. This is no insult. It’s just the way it is. If he’s into the gym, she’ll start lifting. If he likes going to the symphony, she’ll start joining him, etc etc
/r/seduction05/10/20 08:30 PM
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Some key things you said that allude to the problem: - uncomfortable talking about sex - don’t know how to say what you want - can’t seem to get into a state - many female friends You are experiencing all of this because you are in a mental prison and conditioning of wanting approval. Why else would you surround yourself with women you want to fuck but do nothing about it? A key aspect is not giving a shit what these women think of you. This is holding you back. You want them to approve of you, …
/r/seduction05/10/20 03:06 PM
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And where does idealism come from? Not knowing yourself. Having no clear view of who you are. Having no boundaries and not understanding women. Not being a man essentially.
/r/seduction01/10/20 04:53 AM
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Well I’m not sure “coming at peace” is the right phrase. But what I’m saying is, is to build a (healthy) relationship with that inner aggression. Grow it and nurture it so it can work for you instead of against you. Good plan. Make sure it’s Muay Thai and not American style kickboxing
/r/seduction30/09/20 01:59 PM
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Honestly I think the first step is for guys to get in touch with their aggression: boxing, Muay Thai, lifting etc. Every male, I don’t care how frail or introverted they are, has a lion inside them. Letting upbringing and social conditioning push down that inner lion is the cause of anxiety in most cases. The lion roars, bubbles up, then is met with resistance from the conscious and subconscious conditioning. What is felt emotionally is anxiety from the push-pull of these opposing energies. Some…
/r/seduction30/09/20 01:48 PM
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It comes from a deeper place of needing acceptance. I’d explore with your therapist on why you need that. Likely it has something to do with mom
/r/seduction30/09/20 05:04 AM
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Your three confident and assertive examples come from a root of aggression. It’s just knowing when, why and how. Aggression can be very socially calibrated or it can be a punch in the face or throwing a woman on a bed. It’s the fight part of fight, flight or freeze. Nowadays guys are conditioned to be so disconnected to the “fight” part of themselves that we are flooded here with guys asking how to be confident like it’s a learned thing. It’s not. It comes from tapping into that inner lion and t…
/r/seduction30/09/20 05:03 AM
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No it’s aggressive. Aggressive is the base. It gets translated with respect to what the situation is. Maybe it’s straight aggression. Maybe it’s assertive. Maybe it’s being forthright. Maybe it’s holding your ground
/r/seduction30/09/20 04:56 AM
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Yep! Most guys will realize if they continue long enough that it’s only their head that’s getting in the way most of the time
/r/seduction30/09/20 12:19 AM
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