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| 31 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one? | Question For Men | thegoldendragon7678 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 12:20 PM |
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| 2 | Marriage is a substitute for love.You don't need to be married for any of this. I don’t disagree with you there. As I said, I’m marriage neutral. It’s not emotionally more valuable to me, and in fact I don’t really like the fact that society forces it onto people who don’t really want it. That’s why I said, it can just be your personal choice. There are people who are happy to be married, and they can be genuine about it even if you and I don’t see the value in it. Because other people don't have to get the courts involved to go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 11:01 AM |
| 5 | Marriage is a substitute for love.Do you ever have to work on your friendships? Not if they're genuine. Honestly, with this point alone I know we will never see eye to eye. Growing up, your statement is true. Friends came easy, we spent time everyday at school or in our neighborhoods. Come adulthood, things change. They became a lot more effort as everyone has careers, relationships, families, and other obligations that don’t involve me. There’s so much more effort in setting a time for things, for offering support and care even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 10:04 AM |
| 6 | Marriage is a substitute for love.I’m marriage neutral, personally. I don’t feel the need to for emotional reasons but see their value in legal systems, especially if one wants to have children. With that context of me, I’ll break down your points to the next of my understanding and tackle them one by one. Marriage is a denial of attraction towards other people. You mentioned that deep down we know that our partners are attracted to other people. While it is true that you can (and most likely will) be attracted to other people i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 09:32 AM |
| 8 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsHmm.. it depends what you'd consider dating. I didn't date anyone seriously but I was in a consideration phase with a handful of guys, and there were more that were interesting and interested but incompatible off the bat (pre-first date to first date). Has your approach lead to balanced, healthy relationships so far? I was able to have a 5 year relationship with a similar, simple approach when I was younger but it had a lot of difficulties and incompatibilities that only hindsight has really bro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:48 AM |
| 10 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsI think it's not really a gendered thing, since I've met women who feel the same way as you described and I've been with guys who view things the way that I do. If that works for you, I am truly happy that it does! But I could never be with someone who views it that simply, as I think there are many nuances that need to be considered. I'm not a very romantic person in the way media or other people seem to describe it, which is probably where this difference is most easily explained. I don't see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:22 AM |
| 11 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsThe ones that I'm still acquainted with seem to be thriving and well, at least! I'm happy they found their people or have had other things in their life that improved their situations from when we first met. Many of the men had good traits that helped me build the list a bit more from when I originally made it, but it was a lot of incompatibilities that would make both of us unhappy if we pursued something further. Things like what we wanted out of life (how we determine successful, happy lives)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 08:46 AM |
| 19 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsAt some point after many awful experiences, I finally accepted that I was the common denominator in all these negative dating situations and I put myself in them. So, I took a break from dating and started to reflect, learn, and heal different things that I could work on. Somewhere towards the end of that break, a community I was in spoke about NWRs (Needs, Wants, and Requirements) and it seemed confusing to me to write down standards. I asked them how to know if a standard was unfair or too hig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 07:34 AM |
| 2 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Thank you! I appreciate the acknowledgement of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 12:48 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: What would you say about a man who is 8+/10 but is shy?From your description, he doesn’t sound shy. He sounds considerate and thoughtful of his words and actions, which is definitely a plus. A lot of the men I’ve dated (one seriously for 5 years!) have been the way you describe, or at least similar. They’re introverted, not very outspoken, or overall laidback in their interactions. I’ve just been the one who talks to people and gives them space to interject and add their two cents if and when they wanted to, which according to them was great cause t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 04:49 AM |
| 4 | Guys seem compelled to absolutely despise women they dont want to date.I see this happening on both sides. A lot of disrespect and shame towards people who are not “good enough” coming from loud minorities on both sides, especially online. Edit: obviously this doesn’t justify either one doing the other. I just think that there are a lot of shitty people and it’s not a gendered issue off the bat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 11:27 PM |
| 3 | If your husband/partner suddenly became disabled and required care, would you keep the relationship the way it is or make compromises/leave?Short answer: I will do my best and have made a commitment to my partner and to myself to make it work. But that's all I have right now, a commitment to a set of intentions under circumstances that are very different and to tell you what I would or wouldn't do would only be the truth in this moment. Long answer: I think when we make commitments to people, whether we're male or female, we do so under the assumption that they don't change or deviate too far from the version of them that we made th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 06:56 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueFrom my understanding, OP is asking why they experienced men who were not interested in LTRs. So, I mentioned it because they’re probably meeting men who just choose not to (number 1), since they most likely won’t give (number 3) a chance. Meaning: their perception of men not wanting to be in relationships is skewed in more “the men I want don’t want to be in relationships,” and that isn’t to say they should lower or change their standards necessarily but it’s an important distinction to make. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 09:47 AM |
| 15 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueAgree with this but adding to point 1: the leftovers are leftovers for a reason. This is applicable to both the men those women are talking about and the women themselves if they’re at a certain age. There’s generally 3 reasons someone is not in a LTR in their 30s up: 1. They don’t want to be. 2. They were in them but broke up (the older you get the higher chance they’re a divorcee). 3. Other people didn’t want them. In short, there are probably reasons those women didn’t want those men and it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 01:53 AM |
| 0 | The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder?This. Drowning is drowning no matter how deep the water is or what type of water you're drowning in. Men 100% suffer in ways that women may not suffer as much or in the same way, like with lack of emotional support. But that doesn't mean they suffer MORE. I don't understand why awareness of suffering and pain needs to be a comparison. Men's struggles are valid struggles without them needing to be compared. Same vice versa. At the end of the day, while we suffer in different ways, we often have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 11:05 AM |
| -2 | The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder?I wasn't invalidating the experience of men. I was saying that men are suffering AND causing suffering, so your use of violent crime is more nuanced than it is an invalidation or counterpoint to the discussion of sexual assault. There's so much more than just saying "oh but men are victims of violent crimes more than women so we suffer more." Even sexual assault towards men is more often to be done by other men, though the statistics are debatable since there's a lot of shame towards men assault… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 10:59 AM |
| -2 | The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder?Men are also more likely to be the perpetrator of violent crimes though. I don't like the original post and the mentality of making suffering a pissing contest in the first place. Both genders struggle with different things and having a scale to judge something you don't experience is stupid. Male loneliness, lack of support, and other things are valid. I wouldn't compare SA and violent crime as a measure of men suffering more though, since both things are primarily caused by men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?This is a pretty balanced take, and gives a lot of insight to the mentality beyond “men horny, ooga booga” and I appreciate that a lot. I can definitely see how it can be related to affection, as in the desire to share that happiness with someone who made you happy. Totally makes sense. Thankfully neither my partner and I prioritize sex to be that bonding, vulnerable, sharing of intimacy. Not that we don’t enjoy it or don’t view it as that special, we do, but both of us feel no need to rely on i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/24 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Not exactly. Attraction is still a factor, it just isn’t sexual. My cheeks hurt from smiling just thinking about him or talking about him with other people. I love when he speaks about things he cares about, when he teaches me about things he’s good at, and when he figures out things and leads me. And with close friends, no matter how much I enjoy them, I can’t spend everyday with them. I don’t think I’d even enjoy an entire day every week, we mostly just have calls to check in these days. With … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I'm not here to invalidate the need in your eyes, I believe you that it is a need and I respect that. I'm sure it is important for a lot of men (and women) and no one should tell you not to need it just because you won't die without it. On the other hand, I think it's strange that you don't see there to be other needs that a romantic relationship can provide to a man aside from sex. If you're saying a man can do everything else outside of sex by himself, you're saying that he doesn't need emotio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Sorry, I didn't mean to accuse you of accusing, lol. I was just sharing with you what the intentions of the post were so that maybe you'd add more of your thoughts - and you did, which makes me happy! Thanks! While I understand that you're saying bad sex with no intention of getting better would be a dealbreaker to people who find sex important to a relationship, I think it's less "why is *good* sex important?" but why is sex itself important? Everyone who wants sex wants good sex, I'd think. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Thanks for adding your two cents. I wasn't assuming there's one correct answer, rather trying to understand different POVs. I mainly have an issue wrapping my head around why sex is an adamant need for certain people, not because I think it's wrong but because I can't relate. The post was part of my learning so far, in which some people feel they need sex before they can give someone everything else in a relationship. I'm learning that, for some here, they feel it's the main thing that makes rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Most women actually appreciate being approached and it's only condemned by a vocal minority who aren't worth dating in any caseI agree. I was just sharing that consideration in faith that OP and whoever his advice is directed to are not DSH (or at least don't desire to appear to be so, whether they are or not). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Oh yeah, 100%. Either accept people’s lifestyles and let them be or leave, don’t change or disrupt them if they didn’t ask to be. I’m not sure why some people find it surprising when their partner doesn’t “change” to cater to them just because. I think that’s when opposites can be harmful. Opposites can complement but only when it’s consensual and willing, not forced. People can change and negotiations and compromises are normal but it’s strange when people expect to shape their partner a certai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?God, I'm cringing at the thought of impulsive decision making and being an emotional rollercoaster. I don't mean to judge (and I don't on a moral sense) but I would hate my life being that way. I pride myself in having self-control and discipline way too much. But I can 100% that "crazy" is hot lmao And yeah, I can definitely see that to be the case in my experience with men as well. I do think other factors come into play but, generally, that makes sense. I have gravitated towards men in the mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?My mother is the same way as you. I think she's a great person and a wonderful mother but she's an inconsistent, risky partner and without my more stable father she would not be grounded and have security in her life. This isn't to say that I think you're a bad person for desiring these things, quite the opposite actually. I think it's normal and I honestly love that you have the self-awareness and compassion to understand these things about yourself. It's just a matter of priority, valuation, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 01:00 PM |
| 3 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?the more I have it the more I want it. Ahh, that's interesting. I appreciate that insight and I'll save it in my mental bank of diverse experiences. I think I have a friend who hinted at something similar when I brought this up so I'll mention this to him next time we talk. being passionate means being alive I absolutely agree and relate! I just don't feel it's value in a physical sense. I have felt it, it was fun and will always be but it's not important to me. I find it scary to be with people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 12:33 PM |
| 4 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?That's a good explanation! I definitely understand the premise a lot clearer now, I appreciate that a lot. It gives me more clarity as to why I feel the way that I do towards this. If you're interested in hearing how it's like to me: I think I don't need a lover. I need a partner, as in someone who will walk life with me and work on building an intertwined, improved life. My premise is that, if we don't make each other's lives better (financially, mentally, emotionally, etc.) then there's no poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Most women actually appreciate being approached and it's only condemned by a vocal minority who aren't worth dating in any caseI don't understand why you think I rejected them when I literally said that I didn't..? I rejected men who were pushy and looks-focused in their approach, but as I said there were men that struck up conversation and we went on dates. They didn't go into relationships for reasons like distance, incompatible ambitions, etc. Edit: I didn't address the "5s" part of the statement. Looks-wise, for me, it's a binary pass or fail. If a guy is ugly to me, automatic fail since it wouldn't be good for them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 11:59 AM |
| 0 | Most women actually appreciate being approached and it's only condemned by a vocal minority who aren't worth dating in any caseAs I've already experienced men cold approaching me, both in a conversation-seeking manner and a more direct/compliment manner. I did not reject 90% of those men, and if I was single I don't think your assumption that I would do so in the future would be true since my past behavior proves that it isn't. The ones who just strike a conversation definitely got further with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 10:07 AM |
| 5 | Most women actually appreciate being approached and it's only condemned by a vocal minority who aren't worth dating in any casePiggybacking on this since we have similar qualms. Cold approaching with lines like OP’s, to me, is something I’d reject 90% of the time because it feels like something a desperate, shallow, horny guy would do. I’m not saying that OP or any guy saying this is automatically are those things but those words do not make me feel safe or good about myself, even if I may appreciate the intention and would be polite about it. However, striking a conversation about the situation is something I would abs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Most women actually appreciate being approached and it's only condemned by a vocal minority who aren't worth dating in any caseCold approaching with lines like yours, to me, is something I’d reject 90% of the time because it feels like something a desperate, shallow, horny guy would do. I’m not saying that you or any guy saying this is automatically are those things but those words do not make me feel safe or good about myself, even if I may appreciate the intention and would be polite about it. However, striking a conversation about the situation is something I would absolutely enjoy and appreciate. A guy that I would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 08:39 AM |
| 4 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Because there are other things he can get that he values? He has someone who supports him the way he wants to be supported, loves him in ways that make him feel safe and appreciated, and gets through the highs and lows of life with him intimately. Is sex really more valuable than any of the other things you get in a relationship? I can't imagine being in a relationship where that is the single, top priority that I would give up everything else for if I didn't have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I don't care about them fucking someone else, actually. I am down for an open relationship so long as certain conditions are met (e.g. regular STD tests and hook-ups/sexual acts only). Cheating, on the other hand, is not a sexual thing but a breach of trust. It's having an agreement and breaking it, whether sexual or not. That I wouldn't be okay with, obviously. But sex with other people is fine. Poly relationships are pretty common and are increasingly more so. Same with casual sex overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?It really boggles my mind that the only you value (i.e. distinguishing factor) see in a relationship is sex. Not judging but it's genuinely so confusing since relationships enrich my life so, so much more and I would gladly give sex up if I had to because everything else is worth it. Sex is nothing compared to how much my partner (and one of my exes) affect my life. To each their own, of course. Thanks for sharing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?would you want to be in a relationship where you didn't live together and never would? Honestly, I wouldn't mind. It isn't ideal, just like a sexless relationship, but I don't see how that one thing would make it worth giving up in and of itself. would you want to be in a relationship where you never ate together? Again, not ideal. But my happiness or my partner's worth isn't contingent on this. If my partner simply didn't want to but there were other intimate, fulfilling aspects that made me fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 11:19 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I mean, there's a difference between wanting and needing sex. My partner, for example, is a pretty sexual person but he's never made me feel like my worth in a relationship was contingent on sex. He's with me to build a life with me in the present and the future. We make each other's lives better and that's the point of a relationship to me (and seemingly to my partner and one of my exes). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I think it's very similar to how men feel about spoiling their women. A lot of them love doing it but once it feels like their worth as a partner is contingent on it, it just loses it's joy and pleasure. So, yeah, I don't disagree with most of what you said. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Agree to disagree, personally. I don't see sex as a need in that "package" and I really don't see myself building a life with a friend. But I see your point and respect that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Yeah, for sure. I'd worry that the person who feels it to be a huge issue would feel resentful or become burnt out. I'd feel so guilty if I was the disabled partner. Thanks for answering and helping me understand a bit more. Cheers! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Interesting, I’ll read the article and think about it more. Overall though, your point makes sense. I don’t feel it leads to happiness or bonding for me, at least not more than other things so it makes sense I feel it to be less important or unique. Thanks for sharing your insights! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Totally respect that and I’m not here to dismiss your point but to understand it more with a follow up question: Let's say that you were in a fulfilling relationship with someone that you loved (you had as much sex as you find satisfying, you have an emotional bond, you have an amazing life and companionship). One day, they have an accident or you find out that developed a disability that causes them a lot of pain and distress especially whilst having sex. What happens then - do you break up, do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Totally respect that and I’m not here to argue but I’d love to pick your brain more, if that’s alright. Let's say that you were in a fulfilling relationship with a woman that you loved (you had as much sex as you find satisfying, you have an emotional bond, you have an amazing life and companionship). One day, she has an accident or you find out that she has developed a disability that causes her a lot of pain and distress especially whilst having sex. What happens then - do you break up, do you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I agree on an overall level for sure, they're interconnected. But I guess what I was trying to ask, albeit a bit poorly, is that do people here feel like a good, happy, healthy relationship can be sexless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?An interesting perspective. I appreciate the analogy. I can't relate to sex being what distinguishes it from a friendship but I definitely appreciate your thoughts, thanks for sharing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?That's fair, you did. I still stand by what I said, and to use your analogy I don't think that it is a pillar in my case. I think physical intimacy is a pillar, for sure, but it isn't sexual inherently to me. Just like pillars can be made from stone, brick, or concrete, the physical intimacy pillar can be made of different touches. Each type has it's uses, benefits, and consequences but at the end of the day they can still be stable. I also think attraction is a pillar, but again it isn't sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I have seen it. But I have also seen disable people still have intimate, loving relationships. I have seen asexual people having fulfilling romances and happy partners. I think if sex is a need to the couple and they're not having it, I agree. But I don't agree that everyone needs sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I would definitely prefer that neither my partner and I feel like it's a duty to have sex with each other. There are times when I was in the mood and he wasn't, and I am more than happy to just masturbate. If the rest of our relationship he tells me he'll be uncomfortable with having sex, I would have questions and concerns but ultimately not a deal breaker for me as long as other forms of intimacy are there. I don't really see what's wrong with not having sex at all but, again, I would never fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I never said it wasn't mutual. If you're reading what I'm saying, I have said that I'm not disagreeing that both parties have to be considered. If you read my post and my other comments, I have never dismissed that there are people that need sex. No shame to them, just incompatible with me. We would not be in a relationship or break up if their needs weren't met enthusiastically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?And you'd have every right to! I have had men reject me for it and I genuinely wish them well. I'd rather that than a man who will lie then pressure or resent me. Thankfully, my partner seems to feel similarly. I'd still be curious to ask him using your exact words but we had conversations about something similar before and, generally, he finds it strange when people allow their emotions to control them or dictate what they do. But anyway, yeah, thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving me mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I'm not disagreeing that both parties have to be considered. If you read my post and my other comments, I have never dismissed that there are people that need sex. No shame to them, just incompatible with me. I can't be with someone who thinks a lack of sex is the end of a relationship or of intimacy. Becoming an obligation makes it a turn off to me. It can be product of a happy relationship, not the cause of one. Again, for me. Edit: as to why there's a line, a book excerpt described it perfect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I've met quite few men who just enjoyed showing affection to their partners through gifts and trips. They weren't men that were desperate and, in fact, have other options. They seemed to generally want it. What they didn't want is to be taken advantage of, and their girls spoiled them back occasionally too. The men who feel taken advantage of or like it was the only way they could keep women seem like they're just desperate and unwanted overall, and they attract shitty women. But anyway, I don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I disagree, personally. I think sex is what distinguishes a platonic relationship to a sexual one. People fuck people they don't love over time and that doesn't make it romantic or meaningful. I had this conversation with a few close friends (of different sexuality and genders), specifically about what makes a partner a partner versus just a best friend? You can have sex with a best friend or feel attracted to them overall, doesn't make them a partner. At least not to us. The way my group of fri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Literally any other physical touch. Hugs, kisses, massages, hand holding, or any skin on skin contact. Of course, some of these things you may do with someone you have no romantic feelings towards but I'd argue that's the same for sex. People who don't love each other have sex all the time and many say it's not as meaningful without the love, so that's how I feel about those other forms of touch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I don't think I want to lust over anyone, nor for someone to lust over me. I'll ask my partner about this when he's up and see what he thinks. But personally I don't like that carnal, intense desire for sex. Maybe it's just a semantical thing but lusting and the animalistic nature of these words honestly sound uncomfortable to me, both giving and receiving. I have never felt this way towards anyone but I have had it expressed towards me and I did not like it. I think I would feel unsafe around a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I've been on there before and I honestly find it depressing. I understand what it's like to feel horny but me and my partner just... masturbate it away? As he says when I feel guilty not fulfilling his horniness from time to time, "why would I break off a perfectly good relationship over this when I can easily just use my hand?" Obviously, it's not intimate and not "the same" but I feel like he and I can get intimacy in other ways. We would just say that the need is intimacy, not sex. Honestly, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Physical affection, sure. But does it have to be sex? Is sex the only valid way a man can feel intimate physically? (Not being sarcastic, genuinely asking your take on this. Just hard to sound less sarcastic in text lmao) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:04 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I don't disagree that it's transactional to some extent but I do think people's personalities and preferences need to be taken into account. It's all about alignment rather than simply forcing everything to be perfectly fit to your needs. For example, I do value words of affirmation a lot but my partner finds it uncomfortable or unnecessary to speak so much. I'm not the "if he wanted to he would" type of person, and instead I asked him to help me understand how he expresses love (turns out throu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Thanks for your reassurance. Cheers! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:58 PM |
| 6 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Very interesting. Thank you for your responses and I wish you and your family an amazing future! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Definitely agree that it's personal and depends on the couple. But I do find it interesting that the friends/roommates thing is mentioned here because I had this conversation with a few close friends (of different sexuality and genders), specifically about what makes a partner a partner versus just a best friend? You can have sex with a best friend or feel attracted to them overall, doesn't make them a partner. At least not to us. The way my group of friends and I described it was more "it's a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Makes a lot of sense. It's a strong need for you that needs to be aligned. Thanks for sharing your perspective! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:51 PM |
| 0 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?That's fair. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope that you never have to be put in such a situation. Cheers! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Yeah, I definitely agree with these points overall. I'd just tweak it to say that the diminished intimacy could possibly be rebuilt in other ways, at least for me. I can see how it may not be replaceable as easily for other people though, man or woman. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Do you think that would breed any sense of resentment? I always told my partner that if he changed his mind about sex being a need, we'd look into open relationships. If he wasn't open to that and he became unhappy, I feel like I would have to break up since resentment and his suffering would be my main worry at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?In your opinion, the need for sex relates to a man's worth? So a man who doesn't desire it, even when offered or given the opportunity, he is automatically a loser? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I misunderstood, thanks for clarifying! In relation to your points along with asexuality, I did wonder if I was somewhere along that spectrum. I'm sure that I'm not. I don't like labelling myself but, if I had to, I definitely am somewhere close to demi (as you also suspected). At the end of the day, I simply don't get why it's a need. I get that intimacy is a need, both emotional and physical. I don't mean to belittle the need for sex, again, just cause I don't understand it doesn't mean it isn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. In my post, I have said that I have always felt like it was my obligation and that I had to do it whether or not a man said he was okay without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?The way I've expressed it to some men is this: a lot of men do want to spoil their partners financially, BUT if they feel like it's an obligation and that she will dump him if he doesn't want to for whatever reason at some point in time then it just feels so transactional and depressing. Many men will feel this obligation and continue to pursue the relationship because they feel it's something they have to do to feel loved. The same goes with sex in my case before. I felt like if I didn't give s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:37 PM |
| 4 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?In my case, we are sexually compatible because we both don't want it to be an obligation. After starting my journey of understanding how I felt about sex, I expressed them to any man I was interested in and didn't pursue anything with men who did feel it was a need for them. I would rather stay single than feel like it's an obligation, and thankfully I'm with someone who feels the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:34 PM |
| 0 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I understand and agree with attraction being a prerequisite and need. But I don't think sex is. I find it difficult to wrap my head around it since I feel like sex is just a way to address a need rather than the need itself. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I don't really feel like sex is the one thing that bonds two people that love each other. People who don't love each other can have sex and go their separate ways, people who don't have sex can be brought together and be vulnerable through other means. But thanks for sharing your thoughts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?It's not about wanting it, it's about NEEDING it. A relationship wherein someone would be devasted and throw everything away because we cannot have sex for whatever reason is one that I cannot be in. I can enjoy it and prefer to have it but if my partner were to become disabled or somehow just wanted to stop because it caused him pain or distress, I would be okay and still happy. It's not about the quality of sex. It's something you can enjoy learning together and catering to one another, as wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I absolutely agree with you, which is why I feel like sex is more a product than a prerequisite to a good relationship. I appreciate the reassurance. The question was more so more akin to, can you (as an example of a man) be happy if you had everything else you needed in a relationship if you never had sex with that person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Agree. I don't think sex is the only way to be physically intimate and that, to me, it isn't a need. But physical intimacy as a whole definitely is. Again, it is a tool in a tool box and it depends on the situation what tool you need. I don't really feel like it's a tool that I find that useful in mine but I'm not here to belittle anyone who does need it. But anyway, thanks for your thoughts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?While I do agree with you in terms of connecting on different aspects is important, I don't think not desiring sex means feeling physically disconnected. There are many ways to feel connected through touch and presence physically and it depends on the person which they are most receptive to. Sorry to hear about the situation you're in with the misconnection, it is a shame. Thanks for sharing your perspectives! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Is it sex that is needed or is it intimacy, though? I agree with you that intimacy is expected and keeps it healthy but I am wondering if it has to be presented via sex or is that just the easiest, most accessible way to have intimacy for most people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I think attraction is necessary to enter a good relationship but I don't think that attraction needs to be sexual, for me at least. I definitely respect that for you (and a lot of men and women) it does need to be sexual though. It's as valid need as anything else. I am curious though, if you're okay with answering: do you feel like people with physical disabilities or other reasons for being unable or unwilling to have sex would be incapable of being in a good relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I appreciate your apology for psychoanalyzing because I never said my current partner wasn't sexually attracted to me, just that neither of us view sex as a need to be in a happy and healthy relationship. Maybe I worded it in a way that may have misconstrued my point but my current relationship is perfectly happy thus far, and neither of us feel pressured to do or not do sexual things. I think the best way to put it is that sex, to me, is a way to address a need but not the need itself. The need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Do you feel like it's almost automatically a bad sign if a couple doesn't have sex? As in it's nearly impossible for it to be a healthy, happy relationship if the sex was not existent or frequent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Thanks! I think the worst part is when men don't directly or intentionally pressure someone like me to have sex but that it's just been so ingrained in me that it's my "job" to fulfill the man's desire no matter how I feel or what I want. In short, that it would make me a bad partner if I don't give him sex. I've had conversations about it with my partner and it made me feel so safe and loved when he compared sexual desire or horniness to other emotions, in that you can feel them but not need to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I can understand how that would make you resentful. I cannot speak for that situation but I can definitely see how hurtful and potentially betraying being in your situation would be and I'm sorry to hear that. Totally respect this as a valid need for you but I would like to ask you a follow up question, if that's alright: Let's say that you were in a fulfilling relationship with a woman that you loved (you had as much sex as you find satisfying, you have an emotional bond, you have an amazing li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Totally respect this as a valid need for you but I would like to ask you a follow up question, if that's alright: Let's say that you were in a fulfilling relationship with a woman that you loved (you had as much sex as you find satisfying, you have an emotional bond, you have an amazing life and companionship). One day, she has an accident or you find out that she has developed a disability that causes her a lot of pain and distress especially whilst having sex. What happens then - do you break … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?Absolutely. I appreciate you emphasizing this point. While I can't relate to it being a need, I have never and hope to never make someone feel invalidated for needing it. All I know is that I simply cannot be in a monogamous relationship with someone who does view it as a need. It doesn't make a man wrong or gross for needing it, just means we're unaligned and need to see other people. When in the dating market, I made sure to have this conversation early on. Some men lie (to themselves or to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?For sure. I appreciate you both emphasizing this point. I definitely have never and don't ever mean to do that. Whether or not I relate or agree to a need, the need is valid and it's all about alignment (priority, ability, willingness, etc.). If I were not able or unwilling to meet a man's need, it doesn't mean that one of us is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I agree with you in my observations of dating in different cultures or environments. I think the question may be phrased better if I would ask you "is sex a need in a happy, healthy relationship?" meaning to say you would find it meaningless to be with someone who you vibe with in other ways if you both don't express that love through sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?If I'm understanding you right, you're saying that what matters is how the couple expresses love to one another. If sex was part of how the couple did that from the very beginning, it's a red flag to look into if it suddenly stops or changes in frequency, quality, or enthusiasm. On the other hand, if it was not amongst the ways they expressed love, then it isn't as big of a deal to be without it. What matters is that love is expressed and understood amongst the two individuals, and that sex is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:40 PM |
| 4 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?There is something interesting that you mentioned that may play a difference in people's perspectives. You mentioned that sex is the most intimate part, which I find untrue. I don't prefer casual sex but I don't feel like it's on the top of the list of intimate things. Very interesting addition to my thoughts and considerations moving forward, I appreciate your input! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:34 PM |
| 9 | Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one?I appreciate the POV from a married man with kids! If I may ask a follow up question: if none of the effort towards nurturing the relationship leads to sex, would you feel like its meaningless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I disagree but I’ll leave this conversation here. I don’t exactly prefer to speak to someone who wants me to experience being raped to agree with their sexist views and opinions. I wish you well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?You’re saying the nature of men is to rape and you’re saying want me to experience that? Damn, your hatred for men just made you wish harm on another woman. You realize that, right? As I said, there are men that have hurt me. Emotionally, physically, sexually. Their actions not the actions of other men define the “nature” of men or predict their actions. Human beings in general do shitty things. Lots of women have been hurt by men, but lots of men have been hurt by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Should the man tell his partner that he is going to get a paternity test?Honestly, it was pretty chill. We just talk about posts we see and one about paternity tests came up. I asked him if he'd want one, he said yeah, and I said okay. I don't really see anything wrong with wanting one and I can see why someone would want to be sure, but I do think it's an emotionally charged question when you're already carrying a baby lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Should the man tell his partner that he is going to get a paternity test?I think people who plan to lead a family together need to learn how to value each other’s needs without any guilting or gaslighting on either side. If the man feels he would like this reassurance, he has every right to a paternity test. That being said, the way he handles the situation and how he tells the mother it’s important. It’s delicate to say the least. I think it’s best to have this conversation when the baby doesn’t exist yet and the relationship is either new or not as attached yet. Pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I’m sorry that you have had such a difficult time with men in your life since you feel that way, but that’s not true at all in my experience. A lot of men have hurt me, yes, but a lot of men have taken care of me. More than women have, honestly. Not saying there’s more men that would help than men who wouldn’t but the point of the conversation is that you’re generalizing an entire group of people. You’re doing what women don’t want men to do to them and it’s confusing to me how you think it’s lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 12:54 PM |
| 7 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Ah, thanks for the explanation. I definitely think a LOT of women are reasonable and don’t view men like animals or demons. We just get called pick me’s and it’s exhausting. I only do it because I think of all the male friends I have that don’t deserve it, my grandfather and dad who are pretty progressive for their respective generations, and my potential future sons. I don’t want to live in a world where men are treated the way women used to in the past or worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 11:53 AM |
| 3 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I don’t understand what that’s supposed to mean, could you explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 06:31 AM |
| 4 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I’m speechless. I’m sorry that all I can really say is, well, I’m sorry that you’ve gone through all that pain only to have your wounds salted by women (and men) who see you as akin to the people who hurt you. I feel similarly when called a pick me, though I assume not as bad. I’ve been hurt by a lot of men. I get told that I deserve to be with abusers, since I want to be “picked” so badly or other things like that. But generally I’m just tired that it’s seen as being a pick me simply for not wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Why is it pick me behavior to refuse to let a group of people who did nothing wrong but have been born the “wrong” gender be bullied for no reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 05:33 AM |
| 5 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Men are also the biggest victim of violence caused by men. Regardless, you are generalizing a group of people for actions they did not commit. That's shitty of you. YOU are the one derailing by giving excuses to justify your hate towards men who have done NOTHING towards you other than exist. You can hate male abusers, male killers, etc. because they did something wrong. But not all men did shit to you or any woman. Many are innocent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:03 PM |
| 3 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Fair, as long as you think men have the same right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:08 PM |
| 6 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?being benevolent to a proven hater If it's a man who actually did something hateful, sure. But to say all men are hateful or being dicks just for having a dick is ridiculous. read about the suffragists Read about men who worked with suffragists. There have been so, so many men throughout history that have gone against the patriarchy and have supported women. Additionally, the patriarchy hurts men too. I don't understand why some men being shitty to you warrants your hatred for someone you don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:57 PM |
| 10 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?It's almost like you ignored the part where I also included women being violent and disgusting human beings sometimes too. And your analogy to mosquitos is more valid than the parallels between sexism and racism aren't? They are literally issues that are caused because of physical characteristics people cannot change that have been used to belittle, overpower, and hate human beings. But no, men are like mosquitos, yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:46 PM |
| 6 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?No? There are a lot of men that aren't sexist. I just don't think revenge and hate is the key to unlocking a world wherein there's less vitriol, violence, and suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:40 PM |
| 9 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?And..? There are a bunch of people of color that killed other people, should I say I hate their ethnicities? Hell, there are also women serial killers and women rapists/SA-ers. A lot of people in the world suck. Does anyone who share some physical characteristics with them that they have 0 control over deserve to be hated and clumped together? I'm not saying don't be careful. I'm not saying let awful men go unpunished. I just don't think that we should be sexist towards men, especially since we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:38 PM |
| 6 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Yes, and we speak up against that too. Correcting a wrong by imitating it is not the way to go in my book. Someone else being sexist doesn't give me an excuse or reason to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:48 PM |
| 8 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Absolutely. A lot of extreme opinions go full circle to being as bad as their perceived enemy. People of color who hate white people feel justified being racist, women who hate men feel justified being sexist, etc. I absolutely stand by the fact that the patriarchy, as described by classical, non-man hating feminism hurts men. But most importantly that most of us should be fighting systems, fighting the rich rather than fighting each other. Honestly, I often feel like a lot of these controversia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Fair enough. As long as you don't feel that right is just for women, I can understand where you're coming from. Thanks for your response, have a good one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:42 PM |
| 13 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Are you okay with men saying the same thing about women? A lot of men have been hurt by women, it gives them as much right as you if this is your logic. Same with people having issues with any migrant or minority... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:26 PM |
| 9 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I am sorry that you went through that, and it must suck feeling the weight of other people's hate when you try your best to heal. I've been groomed and SA by men but the best people in my life have also been men so I really don't get the excuse. May you find more people who nurture and treat you with love and kindness, men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:12 PM |
| 6 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Obviously, but are you saying I shouldn't speak up? No one is forcing men to marry these women but they often are just speaking about how unfair it is, how rude it is, and overall questioning the validity of that sexist statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Fair enough. I agree with your overall take. I just wish it wasn’t dismissed even as a joke, but it is what it is. Thanks for your reply | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:34 PM |
| 19 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Exactly. I’m so tired of being called a pick me simply for treating men with the same courtesy as I would want them to treat me, to respect them like human beings. I get so angry just imagining having a son in the future if people don’t stand up to this shit. It isn’t even just online. It happens in person. Again, I don’t think that most women think this but they tolerate it when there are women that do and it sickens me deeply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:32 PM |
| 4 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?To you. I’m asking your personal take, since that’s what the post is about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:30 PM |
| -3 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?So the reasoning is humor, right? I’ve been told “all Filipino women want is a white guy to provide for her” and, if said person were to laugh and say it’s just a joke from an observation he made, I should just accept it and not feel negatively towards him? I don’t see how it’s any differently uncomfortable and unacceptable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:24 PM |
| 13 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?do you find the hyperbole to be acceptable? I’ve been told “all Filipino women want is a white guy to provide for her” and, if said person were to laugh and say it’s hyperbole, do you think that I should just accept it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:21 PM |
| 24 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Right, especially when the members of that group didn’t do anything to warrant it. To some extent it may work for groups wherein members actively choose to join and participate (especially in heinous acts), but in the case of “men deserve to die” or any hateful statement all the members did was be born with the “wrong” genitals. I’m sure a lot of women don’t think these hateful things for true but I don’t get why a lot of women (and men!!) let it pass. It feels even less feminist to allow it sin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:20 PM |
| 60 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I don’t think this and I just wanna say it’s ridiculous considering that if a man said the same thing, even if he was SA’d or hurt by women, it would not be acceptable. I can’t believe women who think these even have male partners, friends, or brothers but still say this shit. I got kicked out of a group for pointing out how disgusting it was for some girl to say “men deserve to die” just because she was ogled at by a group of them. She had a long term boyfriend at the time who just nodded along… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:58 PM |
| 1 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...If she made me uncomfortable with man hating or deceitful behavior, yes, of course I would be wary and less forgiving. Accusing someone of SA knowing full well it's a lie is disgusting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 04:06 PM |
| 1 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...It's hard to imagine exactly how it would go down since I haven't been in this position but I'm sure that I would try to acknowledge my appreciation for his sharing and ask him details about it and additional questions if he's comfortable: - why he wanted to share it with me - where things are now with the people involved - how does he think it affected him now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 03:56 PM |
| 2 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...Honestly, I take everyone's story with a grain of salt. If I only hear one side of a story and barely have any context, there is always more to the story than one person's perspective even when they don't intend to deceive. So, if it was a girl who I also just met I'd be sympathetic and allow her to reveal more of her personality to me. But if she proved acted in a way that made me uncomfortable in how she treats men or anything like that then I would also be wary of her. In either case, I would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 03:39 PM |
| 10 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...True, and also the way he talks about the ex would add to that. I think the way anyone talks about their ex is a sign of their character but it would be especially true in this case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 10:36 AM |
| 42 | You're on a date & everything is going well, then they tell you they were falsely accused in the past...It’s not a dealbreaker because people are falsely accused all the time. I have no knowledge whether it’s true or it isn’t, so I will assess him the same way I would any man: innocent until proven guilty, be it towards the past situation or any situation moving forward. I’d background check him as best as I can but I do that with most men I’m into anyway. That being said, if he does anything that makes me uncomfortable during any sexual activity, I may be less forgiving. But I usually only become… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 09:42 AM |
| 19 | Q4W: Do you find your male partner attractive?When I see men that I don’t know, it’s a “pass or fail” type of situation in my head in terms of physical attraction. I don’t feel any strong emotion or desire based on looks alone, but I know when I don’t find someone appealing at all. With my partner (and past partners), it was the same. They looked okay, maybe even cute but there’s no desire there. It’s when they start to speak that make or break attraction, really. Their voice, their thoughts, their sense of humor, their passions, etc. are w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Women who espouse "Not all men but always a man" - do you distrust your close male friends and family?Not who you’re talking to but just wanted to say this is such an interesting question. I do feel like there’s a huge difference between the two, in terms of openness to trust and give people space to be their own person rather than a statistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Why do you find dating hard?You got the analogy then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 11:01 AM |
| -1 | Why do you find dating hard?(Most) men find themselves stranded in the desert, thirsty but with nothing to drink. (Most) women find themselves stranded at the sea, thirsty and surrounded by water, yet still nothing to drink. If you’re focused on sheer quantity of options, the average woman will definitely have more than the average man. But are those men really eligible? Depends. That’s where the struggle comes in. Other than personal safety, which other users have already mentioned, you also have compatibility. You say th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 09:28 AM |
| 43 | This Platform Coddles Women and Shames MenAs most modern platforms do. It’s not really surprising. Progressive society has fought so hard against female-targeted sexism that it went into a full circle and transformed to male-target sexism. Anyone who tries to bring balance (i.e. counters the narrative of women being perpetual victims or protagonists, whilst men are never doing enough of the right things or being antagonists) is hushed. Or at least they try to. We’re still here trying to go against the echo chambers of either extremes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Men don't need to settle - they choose toNot having a man serve her every whim and cater to her toxicity? If men stood up for themselves and left women they knew to be abusing their kindness and love then those women would not have positive reinforcement on those behaviors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Men don't need to settle - they choose toI think my issue with MGTOW men is the same issue I have with so-called feminists, in which they overgeneralize a certain group and have so much hatred for them. They both are simply sexist and that isn't really necessary to standing up for yourself. They both would be the relationship equivalent of a store keeper getting robbed by Black Muslims so they immediately ban all Black Muslims. I think it is completely unnecessary to navigate life with that hateful generalization. As for passport bros,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 04:14 PM |
| 10 | Men don't need to settle - they choose toAdding to your points: men who are desperate are part of the reason why the dating pool is shit. There are many women that walk all over men because they know they can get away with it, because these men will stick around for a glimpse of pussy or affection. If men actually stood up for themselves by leaving and keeping women to a higher standard than they do now, there would be more consequences for those women. That isn’t to say that it’s men’s fault that these women are assholes nor do they d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 08:42 AM |
| 0 | Men don't need to settle - they choose toI think men, on average, have less options than women do. But I don’t think I need to consider what “most” men have/do in terms of dating. The key, for me, is to narrow things down and actually understand what I want. So it doesn’t really matter to her statement of it being a risk and having to be willing to take that risk. “A lot” is a pretty relative number. There are many men with at least a few prospects (or the potential to make them) and that’s more than enough in my opinion. I think it’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 08:32 AM |
| 4 | quick poll: would you date and/or have sex with a virgin man that is middle aged?Adding on to this specifically because I agree with everything you’ve said. Simple answer: yes, I would be open to it. Complicated answer: with anyone I choose to have a relationship with or have sex with there would be a plethora of factors that go into it. Just because it’s a possibility that I’m open to, doesn’t mean I’ll do it. I think the primary factors for my decision for this would be: 1. Whether or not it was his choice to be single/a virgin, and 2. If it was a choice, what was the thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceStraight women are attracted to selected men. The point simply is that when you’re not attracted or interested, you have no need to entertain or reciprocate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 05:07 PM |
| 4 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceHonestly, the simplest way to fend these types of men of is to make them imagine he was in a similar situation with gay men. Usually men who spout how women are “depriving” men are straight in my experience, so when you tell them to imagine themselves being hit on by men they instantly get angry and protective of their own bodies. Their arguments towards women of “oh but that guy is nice, spoiling you, or not bad looking, etc.” are all moot when you use the same to defend that they should entert… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?Oh, no! Just a chat. I’m in no position to interview, don’t worry haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 03:57 AM |
| 1 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?Plus Size means beyond the “normal size range” and straight sized is within the normal size range. It’s subjective to the area/fashion culture but that’s the general definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?Ah, my bad! I didn’t know he did talks since I’ve only been familiar with his books or snippets of writing. Thanks for taking the time to point me in the right directions! Would you mind if I hit you up at another point to discuss your thoughts on some of these things? It’s great meeting someone whose opinions are grounded, both in terms of nuanced research and in terms of fairness or compassion. If not, that’s okay! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?Dan Ariely, women tend to employ a “top X” strategy while men employ a threshold strategy. Not disagreeing with you but could you remember where you read this? I googled this line but nothing showed up. I also tried reading about threshold or top x strategy but don't seem to be getting the kind of results that yield to a further reading about what you're saying. I would love to read more if you could point me in the right direction, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 11:55 AM |
| 2 | Q4M - How many average women have you had serious crushes on?I think that's the point that the commenter was putting. They aren't saying that men or women should or are likely to settle; it's simply that the way those standard to avoid "settling" are set differently. Let's bring gender out of it for a second; let's think about it through pizzas. From my understanding, Person A with a threshold strategy would mean they would eat any pizza from any place that fits a certain criteria and that criteria doesn't change no matter how many amazing pizzas they've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 11:51 AM |
| 1 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?I agree. I just see men getting more hate for weight-related “filtering” but many people would call me a pick me or a femcel for pointing out how women would also be wrong for doing the same thing weight short guys. I wondered if there was some nuance that I was missing. Thanks for your thoughts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?Agreed. Thanks for sharing your thoughts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:19 PM |
| 1 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?Yes! I’m also in favor of not having it in profiles for the exact reasons you stated, but some women feel annoyed that I compare it to the “no short guys” or “only men above x height”. Thanks for adding your thoughts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:18 PM |
| 1 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?Yes! I’m also in favor of not having it in profiles for the exact reasons you stated, but some women feel annoyed that I compare it to the “no short guys” or “only men above x height”. Thanks for adding your thoughts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:18 PM |
| 2 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?I’m a woman who grew up plus sized, in the upper end of “straight sized” area now, and it was always hard being rejected for weight reasons but I think it’s perfectly reasonable for men to have preferences. I don’t know how they could possibly communicate it on bios nowadays cause no matter how they say it, they seem to get berated or criticized by women. What’s a good way to communicate this on a bio without being politically incorrect/“cancelled” and without euphemisms like “active”? Would you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:43 PM |
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