thekeytovictory Archive

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4	Beginnings with my (37M) girlfriend (40M) still has me obsessed that she sees me as beta and this other guy as alpha. Made me wait 3 weeks, then slept with him first night. Help me get rid of that thought! You will drive yourself insane from paranoia if you think you can assume other people's thoughts and motives. And applying paranoia to social situations quickly spirals into self-fulfilling prophecies: If you believe other people dislike you and you behave as such, you are sure to drive them away. If you distrust someone and treat them with suspicion, they will not want to confide in you, you will interpret that as hiding things and distrust them even more, etc. How can I get these thoughts out …	/r/ExRedPill	09/08/26 04:10 PM
12	Beginnings with my (37M) girlfriend (40M) still has me obsessed that she sees me as beta and this other guy as alpha. Made me wait 3 weeks, then slept with him first night. Help me get rid of that thought! 👆This. I can't speak for all women, but as a woman, I have literally never thought of men in this nonsense alpha/beta dichotomy, and I've literally never heard any indication that other women think about men in this way. I've only ever heard insecure men talk about other men in that way. As far as I know, most women think of men on several sliding scales, like: * How much am I interested in him? * How much does he seem interested in me? * Is he a genuinely good person who respects my personal au…	/r/ExRedPill	09/08/26 05:23 AM
12	I can’t tell if my belief that “warmth/showing interest = unattractive” is true or just something red pill content installed in me — and now I second-guess every warm thing I say OP, I say this as happily married woman. The comment above is spot on. Especially these parts: Currently by being a cold fish you are selecting for partners that want you to be a cold fish. This is also going to bias towards a selection of partners who just plain aren't interested in strong bonds or emotional investments. Seems like a pretty shitty stratagy for finding someone who cares about you or has any genuine interest to me. 💯 I guess what it comes down to is what do you want your partner …	/r/ExRedPill	05/08/26 10:47 AM
6	I've read Models by Mark Manson 3 times. I'm 33 and still have never been with a woman. A couple things stood out to me: 1) you said you did all kinds of self improvement "but the scoreboard hasn't changed" makes it sound as if women are just tally points in an imagined social status competition between yourself and other men. 2) you mentioned women indicating being interested in you but you were too intimidated to approach them. It doesn't sound like you are friends with any women. I strongly recommend finding some hobbies where you can meet other people, and try to befriend some …	/r/ExRedPill	22/07/26 09:27 PM
8	Came here from the jubilee episode About a decade ago when I was still dating, I tried a few different dating apps, and Tinder was my favorite at the time because people couldn't message each other unless they both indicated interest. One of my guy friends was also using dating apps, and we would occasionally chat about our dating experience and give each other feedback to improve our profiles or conversation skills, etc. My friend didn't care for Tinder because he felt like he had a better chance of getting dates from other apps…	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/26 12:28 AM
3	How do you get red pill stuff off your social media I also work in tech and I agree with #1. I've never been "redpilled" myself, but around 8 years ago, redpill content started popping up in my social media feeds, and redpill messaging was flooding the comments of content I followed. When I discovered the redpill culture, the algorithms started dumping more of it on me, which made it seem more prevalent than it probably ever was. As a woman, I felt deeply unsettled by it, and frightened to think there was a growing cult of misogyny teaching more …	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/26 11:36 PM
10	How to refute the redpill argument that adult men are having less sex? 👆👆👆 Hello, I am a woman and I think this is the correct answer. A person's attractiveness is a combination of their looks, personality, hygiene, style, life goals, hobbies, & interests. An amazing personality can make up for less than average looks, poor hygiene can negate good looks, etc. I've seen plenty of gorgeous friends choose to date and marry significantly less attractive partners who make the same or less money than them, but I'd never mention this opinion to anyone I know because they'…	/r/ExRedPill	17/07/26 10:20 PM
7	I don't get it. The only people doing and teaching cold approach and game are redpill types. Also, you'd wanna immerse yourself on women's universe, really dig in to things that catch their attention. ... Pick some programs to watch. That YT channel many from your circle share? Watch a thing or two. Go through a list of k-dramas, soap-operas, movies and whatever media genre they tend to prefer ... Not only will you understand women better, you'll have a subject to talk about with them Hello, woman here 🙋‍♀️ I agree with most of your comment except I'm not sure how to feel about this par…	/r/ExRedPill	13/07/26 11:43 AM
6	I don't get it. The only people doing and teaching cold approach and game are redpill types. You can seek advice for getting to know people, too. You don't need specialized guidance for talking to women and getting to know them. We are people. If you want more nuanced tips about how to signal your romantic interest in a woman while you're getting to know her, try befriending some women and ask them what subtle cues they find appealing. But that's probably not even necessary. Good romantic relationships are built on a foundation of good friendship. Ask women about their hobbies and inter…	/r/ExRedPill	13/07/26 03:35 AM
7	I don't get it. The only people doing and teaching cold approach and game are redpill types. Like you said in your post, being able to make conversation with strangers is a good life skill to have in general. You don't need a coach for approaching women. Just look for guidance on overcoming anxiety and improving your people skills. Women are people.	/r/ExRedPill	13/07/26 02:20 AM
11	I don't get it. The only people doing and teaching cold approach and game are redpill types. I think that's a spot-on way to put it.	/r/ExRedPill	13/07/26 02:13 AM
8	I fear I’m going back to my incel way of thinking. The most unattractive aspect about height is when the person who feels they are too short (or women feeling too tall) have a bad attitude about it and make a big deal over it. Lol, I literally married a short autistic man. Fell in love with him because he didn't make a big deal about height, we shared a lot of common interests, and he treated me with respect like an equal. Don't make a big deal about height and it won't be a big deal. Focus on having a personality. Pursue your personal interests…	/r/ExRedPill	08/03/26 01:14 PM
5	Sexual selection Narcissistic and sociopathic people have many "friends," yet women fail to distinguish that their success stems from their toxic personality, and they do everything they can to "change" them. As a woman who has dated narcissists and sociopaths before, and friends with many other women who have dated them, I don't believe women date them on purpose with the expectation of changing them. From my lived experience and the experiences of other people I've talked to, narcissists and sociopaths mislead…	/r/ExRedPill	07/03/26 01:36 AM
12	Being 100% redpill was good while it lasted, trying to make it more like 50/50 now. How bout drop the redpill culture stuff altogether and just focus on being a good person with a healthy outlook on life and satisfying relationships with other humans? As far as the sex conversations go, my spouse and I were uncomfortable talking about the details during our first few years of marriage. Most of our conversations about it back then just revolved around whether the other person was in the mood or not, whether we were both satisfied with the frequency of occurrences, and saying som…	/r/ExRedPill	28/02/26 04:36 PM
24	Struggling With My Girlfriend’s Past and My Own Double Standards Back when my husband and I were dating, he mentioned the year he moved to the local area. I said, "it's too bad we didn't meet sooner." He said, "I was a different person back then, you wouldn't have liked me." I didn't need to ask why because I realized I was also a different person back then and he probably wouldn't have liked me either. I don't like the person I was when I was young, dumb, and immature, but that person is long dead and gone. People grow and change over time. You're both diffe…	/r/ExRedPill	25/02/26 10:03 PM
4	The crossroad between what's considered attractive versus what's considered a good person is at the heart of why Incels exist I think you are greatly overestimating the benefits of this cultural norm. Women who do nothing but wait around for a man to ask them out have absolutely no control over whether someone ever does. You can't make women ask you out, just like women can't make you ask them out. How do you know if women aren't asking out as often as men — what if they're just not asking you? I'm a woman who's currently married. I've been alive for almost 40 years and could count the number of men who ever asked me o…	/r/ExRedPill	18/11/25 06:43 PM
7	The crossroad between what's considered attractive versus what's considered a good person is at the heart of why Incels exist As a little boy this is something I thought would be the next step we've done great job at freeing women from their gender role but we've done absolutely nothing for men doing the same. Freeing men from toxic stereotypes is the next step, but taking the initiative to approach someone and ask them out on a date isn't a good example of toxicity, it's neutral if not positive. It'd be more productive to focus on challenging stupid stereotypes like men not being allowed to hug their friends, cry when…	/r/ExRedPill	18/11/25 12:49 AM
3	Ex wife gave me the best gift ever - are all women like this? I'd stress that attributing being cheated on as the fault of or preventable by the person for selecting a cheater is victim blaming That's a good point. I agree that the cheater is 100% to blame for their own actions. Abusing a partner's trust indicates a lack of integrity on their part that no amount of treating them well would have changed. I've been cheated on in the past, and I'd like to believe that I learned something from the experience to reduce the odds of it happening again. But you're…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/25 11:39 PM
2	Ex wife gave me the best gift ever - are all women like this? I think your comment is just a better wording of u/crazycal123 's third point. I'd say relationships end because (1) one person is a bad partner, (2) both people are bad partners, or (3) it was an incompatible partnership. We don't know if OP was a good partner or if the relationship was fundamentally incompatible, but we can say for certain that OP's ex was a bad partner. Withholding time, energy, and effort from your current relationship so you can invest in a new relationship with someone els…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/25 05:18 PM
22	The crossroad between what's considered attractive versus what's considered a good person is at the heart of why Incels exist I remember making an argument when I was a teenager about how women should also equally approach men to even the playing field not only to make dating easier but also to show what men go through on their side. almost every single dating interaction is predicated on the man approaching first as a young man I was always kind of envious of young women because they did not really have to do much work nor put themselves in a vulnerable position psychologically to get the opposite sex. Have you tried …	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/25 09:56 PM
6	Will it really get so much easier in your 30s? If your goal is to find a monogamous romantic partnership, then you don't need to attract lots of women. You only need to attract 1 woman who is the type of person that would be a good partner for you, and making yourself into the kind of guy thirsty ladies want to chase is probably counter-productive to that goal. Your experience of being rejected lots of times is totally normal for both men and women. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you or the other person. Women get more public at…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/25 09:08 PM
5	What do boys need to hear to not fall for the red-pill in the first place? I'm a woman who was labeled a "tomboy" and stereotyped as being boyish by well-meaning adults for liking things like super heroes, video games, and Legos. My younger brother's favorite toy was a baby doll, and I once overheard a well-meaning adult tell my mom it isn't right for boys to play with baby dolls. My mom wasn't a perfect parent, but one thing she did right was shushing the random dude who said that. I don't know if my brother heard what the guy said or not, but my mom told my brother s…	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/25 02:38 AM
7	What do boys need to hear to not fall for the red-pill in the first place? Make them aware of how conventional/traditional/masculinity came to be and why. Historically, traditional masculine norms are a holdover from times when humanity was frequently at war My hypothesis is that it's a reaction to the Feminist movement and women joining the workforce. Before Feminism, nearly all professions were occupied by men. The definition of what was acceptable for men to be or do in society was mostly whatever they wanted, and the definition of what was acceptable for women was …	/r/ExRedPill	21/10/25 11:17 PM
11	How do I stop getting upset that every girl I’ve been interested in is in a relationship Why not make an effort to meet single women instead of only seeking out women who are within convenient proximity? Dating apps exist, speed dating events exist, local activities designed for singles to meet & greet exist. Met my spouse via dating app.	/r/ExRedPill	12/09/25 12:27 PM
7	Showcasing men’s personality I recently learned from a single girlfriend that there's a new speed dating trend where people make slide decks to pitch their single friends to other singles and the primary focus is on personality. It sounded pretty cool: https://www.pitch-a-friend.com/ https://www.npr.org/2025/04/27/nx-s1-5365968/looking-to-find-a-date-a-new-program-lets-your-friends-make-the-pitch-for-you	/r/ExRedPill	09/08/25 11:43 PM
28	A guy is brainwashing young men with the “dual-mating strategy” theory — how do I debunk it? What about thorough studies that lead to contrary conclusions? Gottman Institute has been studying human partnerships for the past 50 years, including following the same couples for at least 20 years. They discovered that human relationship dynamics are surprisingly predictable, like to the extent that it's possible to predict the success or failure of a relationship with over 90% accuracy. They noticed that every happy lasting relationship has the same 3-4 simple factors in common, and there ar…	/r/ExRedPill	21/03/25 01:06 PM
3	Should I be worried if I’m 26 and never had a girlfriend That interpretation sounds a bit extreme, maybe even a little melodramatic. The phrase "you need to work on yourself" means different things in different contexts. It could mean specific unhealthy attitudes or behaviors they think you need to grow or heal a bit more to be capable of having a mutually beneficial relationship with another person. Generally speaking, "work on yourself" just means continuous self-care and self-growth, which doesn't mean trying to be perfect. Most things in life requ…	/r/ExRedPill	20/03/25 09:29 PM
6	Should I be worried if I’m 26 and never had a girlfriend As for the social Darwinist idea. I can’t help but to think it’s about survival of the fittest and if you fall short of anything and have any imperfections or flaws you’re fucked and you’re going to die alone Literally every happily married person on this planet is full of imperfections. I've been happily married to my husband for 6+ years, we've been happily together for 8+ years, and neither of us are anywhere close to perfect. Successful, life-long partnerships are built on a foundation of mu…	/r/ExRedPill	20/03/25 02:54 AM
12	Is it true that women really do like bad boys and that nice guys finish last? Nobody really enjoys the company of someone they feel like is above them or beneath them. I fell in love with my husband because he treats me with respect like an equal partner. We've been together for 8+ years, happily married for 6+ years.	/r/ExRedPill	14/03/25 02:33 AM
2	How to stop obsessing about power in relationships? The strongest relationships are built on mutual trust and respect. I love my family, but they sort of modeled love as being needed and they used to guilt trip me into obligations for approval all the time (they still try, but I am learning to set better boundaries with them). My spouse and I have been together for about 8 years now, and the bond isn't based on "needing" each other. There is so much deeper love, freedom, peace, and joy in a relationship where the other person just gets you, lets …	/r/ExRedPill	02/02/25 06:13 AM
20	I think my boyfriend is falling down the red pill pipeline, how can i stop this? Hard agree with everything u/Aware_Illustrator_81 said. Some years ago, I stumbled upon redpill propaganda and suddenly all the algorithms started feeding me more of it, which made me feel like the ideology was more prominent than it is. As a woman, I felt deeply afraid and discouraged to believe a large portion of men might think this way. But I also work in tech, and I know the algorithms are skewed to show people more of the most polarizing things they've ever clicked on. So I started searchi…	/r/ExRedPill	13/01/25 02:10 PM
1	Neediness vs Wanting a relationship? Are you referring to my comment or OP's post?	/r/ExRedPill	03/01/25 01:40 AM
7	Neediness vs Wanting a relationship? I'd say not being "needy" is a matter of taking care of yourself and respecting your partner's need for personal space and boundaries (and respecting your own need for personal space and boundaries). Wanting a relationship is a choice, so if you don't want one, then you can always choose not to pursue relationships. If you're referring to wanting things from your partner as part of the relationship, I'd say it's fine to have expectations ... but in a healthy relationship, it's only fair to hold …	/r/ExRedPill	02/01/25 05:25 AM
7	Honestly as a man who is in his late 20s I hate that we live in a patriarchy. When people talk about "toxic masculinity" culture, they're referring to the groups of people who believe and perpetuate toxic stereotypes about masculinity that restrict men to a narrow box of what they consider socially acceptable. Try seeking out "healthy masculinity" culture, it's basically the counter movement to that. I started following #healthymasculinity hashtags on Instagram and that led me to find some wholesome and encouraging accounts a long time ago. Surround yourself with people l…	/r/ExRedPill	22/11/24 03:22 AM
1	Anyone want to be friends ? Me too. He manages the routine stuff and I handle the chaotic stuff. He does 90% of the driving and I deal with 90% of the phone calls, lol. Like yin & yang or whatever 😂	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/24 06:21 AM
2	Anyone want to be friends ? Do you own any pets? Ever do any volunteer work at animal shelters? There's a place in my city called a "Cat Cafe" that's a shelter where people can pay $10 to sit in a room full of cats for an hour or so. 😁	/r/ExRedPill	12/11/24 04:00 AM
2	Anyone want to be friends ? Never heard of Orphan First Kill or Thanksgiving. Are those movies or shows?	/r/ExRedPill	12/11/24 03:56 AM
1	Anyone want to be friends ? What are some of your recent favorite movies or shows?	/r/ExRedPill	12/11/24 03:53 AM
2	Anyone want to be friends ? What kinds & genres? (I'm not a young man, I'm a 36 year old woman, but I'm commenting to boost your post and asking these questions so 20-30s men who share your interests can see what y'all have in common 😁)	/r/ExRedPill	12/11/24 03:50 AM
2	Anyone want to be friends ? I hope you make some good friends here. Friendships form more easily around shared interests. What are some of your favorite hobbies and interests besides getting away from redpill?	/r/ExRedPill	12/11/24 03:41 AM
3	Anyone want to be friends ? Consider befriending ADHD and AuDHD folks, too. My husband is autistic and all his besties are on the ADHD spectrum. Autism makes it harder for him to socialize because he's sometimes too reserved and doesn't always reach out to friends enough, while ADHD people struggle to regulate their social interactions and sometimes reach out with too much zeal. Seems like the ADHD "too much" approach seems to complement the ASD "too little" approach pretty well.	/r/ExRedPill	12/11/24 03:31 AM
5	How can I handle all of that rejection? Hello, I'm a married woman and neurodivergent. I recommend checking out some videos from the YouTube channel "Charisma on Command" ...maybe start with the 2 min one titled "Body Language Mistakes that Make People Like You Less." I've watched quite a few of the guy's videos and I really like the way he does case studies of actors and celebrities to break down examples of handling social situations in different ways. In "How to Charm (Almost) Anyone", he examines Emelia Clarke's behaviors that mak…	/r/ExRedPill	10/11/24 04:25 PM
7	What Are Your Thoughts on the "Mental Point of Origin"? Sounds like you are looking for a healthier alternative to people-pleasing mentality. I don't know of one specific label for it, but I know of many different authors and professionals who have talked about it. Adam Grant talks about the difference between people-pleasing givers and givers with boundaries (he calls them "otherish givers") in his book "Give and Take," and says they experience more success and satisfaction in all aspects of life than takers, matchers, or people-pleasers. Brene Brow…	/r/ExRedPill	09/11/24 04:20 AM
1	How to get over feeling inadequate because of height? It's so weird when extremely tall people & extremely short people date each other. Attended a wedding recently where one partner was double the other's height, and it looked like a parent dancing with a child. The photographers were having a hard time trying to take tasteful candid photos that didn't look like one person was hugging the other on their knees. There are plenty of shorties who aren't about that aesthetic. I'm a short ND woman and I married a short ND man. He was attractive to me be…	/r/ExRedPill	05/11/24 09:26 PM
1	Anyone here go from red pill to attachment theory? Early in our dating relationship, my partner warned me that he would occasionally need "space" and "alone time," and hoped that wouldn't bother me as much as it bothered other partners in the past. I agreed that it's normal and healthy to have time apart for yourself and other friends, but it usually takes longer for me to realize when I need it. I said, "Just let me know whenever you feel like you need a day to yourself and I'll leave you alone. As long as you say it like, 'hey I just want to l…	/r/ExRedPill	26/10/24 04:49 PM
7	Anyone here go from red pill to attachment theory? Attachment styles can change with time & healing. I used to be anxious, my partner used to be avoidant, but we each healed and became more secure before we met, fell in love, and got married. We've been together for 8 years and happily married for 6 years. I still have some anxious tendencies and my partner still has some avoidant tendencies, but our behaviors end up balancing each other instead of causing harm because we are mostly healed & secure. I don't know exactly how my partner found heal…	/r/ExRedPill	25/10/24 10:53 AM
2	How do you deal with your insane envy of promiscuous people? I apologize for my presumptuous "skirt-chasing" remark, but everything I said also applies to dick-chasing (or whatever you want to call the cishet female version of skirt-chasing). Those people sound boring. Also, just to clarify, when I said "mixed friend group" in my previous comment, I meant a group of friends that includes mixed demographics, not just having friends from different demographic circles, if that makes sense. My main friend group consists of people who like tabletop games, vide…	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/24 03:33 PM
3	How do you deal with your insane envy of promiscuous people? Maybe find more interesting friends who have better things to talk about than pining on about the past when they were young & dumb? It's honestly kind of sad if the topic comes up every time you go out with them. People who are happy with their present lives don't usually dwell on their teens and 20s so much. Sex is great, but there are like a billion more interesting topics to talk about. No offense to you, OP, but your friends sound about as boring as the kind of people who brag about getting …	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/24 01:28 PM
1	Toxic masculinity or the lack of ? I think some might misinterpret on purpose, but I've met enough who stopped arguing with me when I explained that the term "toxic masculinity" is shorthand for "toxic stereotypes about masculinity" and "healthy masculinity" means men can just be themselves and they were like, "oh, well I don't have any issue with it then." I think there's an insider bias among many progressive-minded people who are talking about complex nuanced topics, that they don't always realize when they start using shortha…	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/24 01:28 AM
6	Toxic masculinity or the lack of ? I think toxic masculine stereotypes exist as a negative reaction to the effects of feminism. Historically, society used to allow men to hold nearly any job or pursue nearly any interest, and so all of history's greatest poets, artists, chefs, etc. were men. Men could do whatever they wanted, and women could do whatever was left over, like chores around the house and caring for small children. Feminism challenged that notion and pushed the idea that women could also hold any job and pursue any in…	/r/ExRedPill	20/10/24 12:46 PM
5	Toxic masculinity or the lack of ? Hello, I am a woman, and I subscribed to r/exredpill several years ago because my social media algorithms were feeding me posts that attracted a lot of toxic hateful dudes and it made me feel fearful and depressed about the state of the world. To break free of that awful mindset, I started intentionally following "healthy masculinity" accounts on Instagram and actively looking for more real life examples of men who are growing and healing. It got me out of my funk and it's still encouraging to r…	/r/ExRedPill	20/10/24 12:36 PM
4	Want to be ex redpill but.... 29 year old woman here. You're only 22 and you guys only dated for 6 months. That's very young and such a short period of time to basically give up on living your life over it. I also noticed that you said you saw each other for 6 months and then she asked you to be her boyfriend and bought you a card and took you to dinner and a hotel. You gotta start taking initiative for yourself, man. Not just in regards to dating but in all aspects of life. Start taking care of yourself by eating better and…	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/17 01:18 PM
3	Why is it when I treat women nicely they are not as receptive as when I treat them aloofly / the TRP style. Actually, I think you're full of shit and a troll. I happen to be a woman and I happen to be friends with many other women who love their emotionally open men or are seeking emotionally open men. Between me and my partner, I was the more emotional and prone to attachment. But I've learned to respect myself and respect his personal space and overcome the past insecurities that caused me to throw myself at partners emotionally. I'm much happier now and we are happy together. We both get our emotio…	/r/ExRedPill	30/06/17 03:29 AM
2	Why is it when I treat women nicely they are not as receptive as when I treat them aloofly / the TRP style. People don't usually use words like "lovey dovey" or "possessive" to describe normal, healthy affection actions. People often use words like that to describe over the top smothering or obsessive behavior, and since you haven't given any specific examples of your actions, everyone reading your post is left to infer your meaning from what they know. I've seen the way you've responded to other commenters on this thread, which leads me to believe your original post was disingenuous. I can assure you…	/r/ExRedPill	29/06/17 05:20 PM
6	Why is it when I treat women nicely they are not as receptive as when I treat them aloofly / the TRP style. Sounds like what OP really meant to ask is: "TRP taught me ineffective strategies to manipulate women for attention and sex. Can anyone here tell me more effective methods to manipulate women into meeting both my sexual and emotional needs?"	/r/ExRedPill	29/06/17 02:05 AM
7	Why is it when I treat women nicely they are not as receptive as when I treat them aloofly / the TRP style. Why do your behavior options have to be so polarized between either "stoic, aloof, emotionally distant, asshole" or "lovey dovey in-your-face, possessive, smothering"? Can you not fathom some kind of healthy balance of respectful affection and confident independence? It is totally possible to be polite, flirtatious, and sweet without going overboard... and you can respect yourself and the other person with a healthy amount of personal space without being an emotionally distant jerk.	/r/ExRedPill	29/06/17 01:51 AM
6	XRP, I have a dilemma. Hey there, 29 year old woman here. The experience you described of women "pulling away when you open up" and seeming like they love you when you when you act like you don't care, sounds like "the rubber band effect" ...which is ironically a term used to explain the way men pull away from a female partner when she gets too close, but snap back if she pulls away in return. It's actually an emotional dynamic that happens on both sides. No healthy person wants to date someone who is clingy or desper…	/r/ExRedPill	07/06/17 01:07 AM