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| 98 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16? | thelittleemperor | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 06:24 AM |
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| 1 | Don't be THAT girl - 2This sounds like you were raped. I cannot imagine what kind of pain you had to endure. He sounds like a real scumbag who doesn't deserve you. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 03:12 AM |
| 4 | Don't be THAT girl - 2Exactly! Sandra_is_here_2, I am saying this in a serious tone, you are an empowered woman, you are not weak, you are strong, do not let years of misogynistic patriarchy manipulate your thinking and sense of ability and self-worth. Because I am a man, I cannot imagine how difficult it might be for some women to break free from thousands of years of misogynistic patriarchal subjugation. FUCK. THAT. SHIT. It is the 21st century, go forth and impose your will. EDIT: impose might be too strong a word… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Don't be THAT girl - 2Thanks for stating the obvious, would you mind answering my previous question now? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Don't be THAT girl - 2Leaving the scene is way too frequently not a choice. Generally, it is the man who is driving. Usually buses don't run at night. She may not have access to a phone to call a cab without his agreement or even know the address where she is. She may be in high heels and have inadequate outerwear for the weather. Laughable, absolutely laughable. Unless someone is forced, they always have a choice. Sometimes the right/better choice isn't easy or convenient. She may be in high heels and have inadequat… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 04:22 PM |
| 3 | Don't be THAT girl - 2That sounds like a terrifying and traumatic experience. That is a terrible thing to have to endure. Can I ask why didn't you get out of bed and walk away? If you tried to get away did he grab you and force you back onto the bed (which is rape)? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Don't be THAT girl - 2If a woman says "x" in the first place, she isn't entitled to change her mind to "y". If a woman says "y" in the first place, she isn't entitled to change her mind to "x". Which is "yes" and which is "no"? Is it "x" or "y"? I'll let you choose. Or should it be, if a woman says "x" in the first place, she isn't entitled to change her mind to "y". But if she says "y" in the first place, she is entitled to change her mind to "x"? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 03:12 PM |
| 3 | Don't be THAT girl - 2There are many ways of forcing will. If she isn't be forced to be subject to that pressure, then she isn't .... forced?. If a man is pressuring a woman, and she is willing to subject herself to that pressure, then as an equal, it isn't the man's responsibility to seek the woman's interests in the conversation, that falls on the woman. This is what baffles me, I believe in equality, but somehow more responsibility falls on men to "act right" in these situations. It isn't black and white, that pre… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 02:44 PM |
| 3 | Don't be THAT girl - 2Just trying to understand. I guess then the woman is a rapist as well? Because the man is too drunk to give to consent as he is equally drunk? Or do we automatically assume since he's a man that consent is his default position? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Don't be THAT girl - 2Nice. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 02:33 PM |
| -1 | Don't be THAT girl - 2My mistake, your gross usage of sarcasm lead me to believe you would appreciate my sarcasm. I thought if a woman is allowed to use sarcasm to illustrate a point, perhaps a man could? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 06:03 AM |
| 7 | Don't be THAT girl - 2Right??? That's the problem, the message many feminists send is that "women are stupid, and it's men's responsibility to make the right decision". The opposite of equality of sexes. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 06:01 AM |
| 2 | Don't be THAT girl - 2So if they are equally drunk it's rape? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 05:53 AM |
| 3 | Don't be THAT girl - 2I think what most feminists are trying to say is that women are incapable of thinking for themselves and they need men to do that for them. I don't agree with this sentiment, I believe in the equality of the sexes, but that's the only meaning I can interpret from statements like "She was too drunk to make the decision, so he should make the right one" without ANY mention of whether or not he was drunk, which if not directly stated implies it is irrelevant. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 05:51 AM |
| -1 | Don't be THAT girl - 2That's not true, you are equally capable of intelligent thoughts as any man would be. Perhaps if you devoted less brainpower to shopping for shoes and handbags, you could spend some of it on philosophy or ethics? I couldn't have a conversation in French if I never bothered to learn it, right? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 05:43 AM |
| 15 | Don't be THAT girl - 2The problem is that men think if they pressure a woman so much that she finally caves and gives in, it was consensual. "Have sex with me?" No "Please have sex with me?" No "Pretty please have sex with me?" Ok, fine. That's not rape. You need to look up consent in the dictionary. Rape is an action that is forced on someone. No one can ever "give in" to rape by definition of what rape is. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 05:19 AM |
| 4 | Don't be THAT girl - 2"If she can't walk, she can't consent: Don't be THAT guy" What if he can't walk? Is it still rape? | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?completely different things. Completely?, really? I think that it's generally useless and cruel to draw parallels to sensationally brutal crimes and claim them as some kind of standard. The aimless floating of ideas with no standards or boundaries makes it almost impossible to use it as an object in logic. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 03:00 AM |
| 6 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?Wow, I mean WOW. Perhaps she's trying to say she prefers it in the butt? | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?How do we measure such a thing? Her word? His word? What if she was drunk and he was an obliterated [10] on weed? | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 05:11 PM |
| 0 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?American men, but it was you who transformed it that way. I appreciate the grand gesture of equating lil ole me with all of American men. Now that I think about it, I am just that magnanimous and omnipotent. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 05:09 PM |
| 1 | My "Feminist" friend just reblogged this on her tumblr where she posts all sorts of anti male things all day. I don't think I've ever been more mad in my life.It appears she's holding a boy? Who will one day be holding a gun, so she's holding a male holding a gun, ipso facto she's holding a gun? | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 08:33 AM |
| 5 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?of course, rape is rape, it either happened or didn't and its wrong, period. the problem is that most people's initial assumption of "drunken sex" is rape. all the talk i hear about "drunken sex" is that the woman is drunk, and she got raped. i never hear them talk about the man's condition. it should be made explicit whether or not he was drunk. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 07:59 AM |
| 6 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?why is your initial assumption of "drunken sex" rapey drunk sex? this is what is so disheartening, that whenever someone talks of "drunken sex", most people hear "rape". please, continue stating the obvious. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 07:49 AM |
| 5 | Is it just me, or does equating "drunken sex" to rape, undermine situations like the travesty and tragedy that happened to the 23 year old woman in India on Dec 16?google("23 year old in India on Dec 16") | /r/MensRights | 28/12/12 07:39 AM |
| 3 | Did i do anything wrong?"A real lady would have ..." | /r/MensRights | 01/11/12 03:44 AM |
| 8 | On my campus, a mass e-mail was sent out urging everyone to be careful due to the reports of two women who were left 'shaken' after two men walked behind them in the same direction for a bit.Or they could just lock them up in jail, and forego any risk of escalation in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Feminist Here with some questions. Not looking to start a fight, but I just want to learn/understand. Long post sorry.I've read most of the threads on this post and I just want to say that I think you are an awesome person. I wish more people would think like you. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 07:48 PM |
| 3 | The snowball is rolling.A-fucking-men! | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 07:30 PM |
| 7 | On my campus, a mass e-mail was sent out urging everyone to be careful due to the reports of two women who were left 'shaken' after two men walked behind them in the same direction for a bit.So sad, but so true. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 05:49 PM |
| 3 | The snowball is rolling.I fear you are right on this... | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 05:45 PM |
| 6 | mandating 50% women in every profession is "inhumane"Yeah, when I start hearing complaints I then ask "why don't you apply to work for our firm?" That's usually where the conversation ends. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 05:41 PM |
| 19 | The snowball is rolling.Well said, I've considered myself a feminist for many years now, but its getting to the point where most feminists I interact with aren't looking for equality, but superiority. It has really gotten out of control lately with the whole issue of consent when drunk. I find so many woman saying its the man's responsibility if they are both drunk to make the right choice. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Friend uploaded this to FB - Imagine if 'man' was changed for 'woman' and the uproar there would be.No it doesn't, but the primary concern here isn't how ignorant the readers are, but rather the author. I can tell people today that the bible's authors were arcane and their ideas outdated, and is a valid reason to ignore it - I can't use that argument for all the idiotic dating books written today. Edit: 2,000 years ago, the concept of "equality" among humans was not pervasive through society and didn't really exist. Today (especially in the west where this book was written) that isn't so true. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 07:13 AM |
| 2 | mandating 50% women in every profession is "inhumane"I work in a small boutique day trading firm. All together we employ 47 people, and only one of them is a woman (she is the receptionist). | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Friend uploaded this to FB - Imagine if 'man' was changed for 'woman' and the uproar there would be.Good point. I feel like many women have been trained to find men that are ambitious and professionally successful, but at the same time can wrap around their finger. Sorry, some "hot-shot" dr/lawyer/businessman isn't gonna let you wrap them around your finger. And the kind of guy you can wrap around your finger won't exactly have the cojones to get up and make that cash. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Friend uploaded this to FB - Imagine if 'man' was changed for 'woman' and the uproar there would be.The bible was written 2000 years ago. This book was written after 2000 years of societal evolution. Also, let's not forget about all the other "bullshit" surrounding issues with the bible. However, I am equally appalled with this book as I am your "Train Your Wife" example. I'm sick of man vs woman, woman vs man. It's this empty rhetoric that's making relationships so difficult nowadays. We're all humans. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Feminists and recognition of rapeBrilliant. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 03:31 AM |
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