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that may be what you meant, but it's not what redpillers are saying on that site. And therefore it's not what they're hearing. they're kids. the nuance that you're using now is not used on TRP, and because they're kids, they can't add that in for balance. they're frustrated and angry or they wouldn't be on redpill. then they hear a simplistic, deeply sexist message that all women are a certain way -- not that all PEOPLE are a certain way. You may think it's obvious that all people are that way, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 04:06 PM
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but where's the personal responsibility those redpillers are always talking about? A teenage boy who's posting on redpill obsessively is not going to those other places. and once he's bought into it, he's seeing everything else through those warped glasses. It's all talked about on exredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 04:00 PM
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According to my values it is. And btw, I'm solidly Gen X. And a very true to type Gen X at that. Shows how out there you are! Jeez, you haven't swallowed the red pill, you've swallowed the Rand pill. And it's a very bitter pill indeed. I can't help getting a kick out of you though, because I think we both know how terrified most redpill men would be of us both IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:59 PM
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thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:30 PM
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do you want me to have ideas? I'm only a woman you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:26 PM
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hopefully you believe 'cunty shrews' are not ethical and good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:20 PM
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whew, someone's taken that Ayn Rand to heart! I guess different worldviews there! I believe most people are ethical and want to do good. You do know, I'm sure, that RedPill Women advises that men are not sexually attracted to intelligence. They don't specifically say, 'so therefore you should not cultivate your intelligence, and/or engage in the age-old women's trick of pretending to be dumber than you are in order to build men up and make them like you.' But there's a reason they're including t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:15 PM
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you are obviously a very intelligent woman. how do you reconcile redpill's belief that women are of lesser intelligence than men? You are very likely more intelligent than most on that site.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:02 PM
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I've heard that over and over again on here. When people ask why all the hate, why don't you post what you love about your wife? They say the forum isn't for that. The 'positive' stories are mostly about how they gamed women, dominated them, got laid etc. Even then, guys on ex-redpill have admitted they exaggerated their successes with the technique or outright made stuff up to get affirmation and raise their confidence. I doubt they were the only ones. EDIT: but the point here is that scanning …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:01 PM
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he read TRP every day and posted constantly on the site.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:58 PM
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LOL, I doubt it was any different than the usual tedium. It's the fact that he was sitting there, looking at her and realizing with incredible relief that he was able to see her as a real person (my word choice). There was a thread not long ago on TRP where a guy was wondering if he could relax some of the head games with his dying girlfriend. Most of the guys were like 'yeah, time to put aside redpill, this shit is serious,' and he responded something like, 'ok, so I should treat her like a rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:57 PM
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Very wise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:44 PM
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They don't care about your 'true self' they only care about who you are in relationship to what they want from you. That's why all that really matters is whether you COULD be dominated, if a true enough alpha came along.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 01:54 PM
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LOL, Ajay wouldn't be messing with redpill or the American dating market. His marriage would be arranged by his family in due course -- end of story there. Hopelessly unattractive American men can raise their prospects enormously by working on their stature or by becoming very successful. That's hard to do, but the effort is a lot more rewarding in so many other ways than obsessing over hair and makeup, which is what men reward women for doing to increase their lot in the dating market. Hopeless…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 11:53 PM
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this!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:41 PM
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huh, i was thinking it meant 'willing to do anal' i see it a lot among the redpillers. haven't seen enough porn to really know what they mean....maybe it's a vague term they throw out for 'make my fantasies come true'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:35 PM
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what's pornstar level sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:37 PM
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most women don't want to just get laid. Some do, but most don't. So that average women who's willing to just have some shitty one night stand, sure she can get Chad for that. But sex on those terms very often just makes her feel bad about herself. There's even some research I've seen somewhere showing that that vast majority of women don't have orgasms during drunken one night stands. A woman can have something that she doesn't want. What's unfair about that? This is what happens when you're onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:28 PM
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well obviously there are desperate virgin teenagers on there trying to learn how to get laid, and there are bitter men going through terrible divorces and child custody battles. It's obvious what's going on in those cases. I'm talking guys who are already married or out there in the dating world, who are willing to go to great lengths to 'figure women out' and get more sex. Including adopting an entire worldview that they think will help them. It's just very striking to me, and I'm not sure most…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:57 PM
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several times a day is very high, especially if you're not very young. i'm starting to realize a lot of the language redpillers use is quite provocative, but most say they mean something much more acceptable when you challenge them on it. So maybe this is the same here, but I don't think too many women are crazy enough creatures to settle for just 'filling in your end game.' And if you want to be having sex with them three times a day, it sounds like you want them to play a much bigger role than…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:44 PM
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I understand that they're on this sub to talk about sex, romance, and relationships. But they talk about the things they're trying to do in real life, and those things are quite consuming. It just makes me wonder whether a LOT of redpillers have a higher sex drive. No judgement. It's not a bad thing. But if true, this could be driving a lot of the unhappiness, and the need to figure things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:39 PM
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damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:54 PM
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LOL, I was wondering this too. Sounds like his name came straight from central casting -- captain of the football team in some movie about high school. But 'chad' also rhymes with 'cad' and maybe that's no coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:46 PM
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you don't have to be. the key question: does it turn you on to regulate her decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 09:13 PM
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i don't see a lot of women wanting to rip apart their families for that reason. most just take the hit on the sexual front.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 08:55 PM
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that's a male way of thinking. I don't think women put as much value on good sex. I thought that was a big part of redpillers' problem with women!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 08:42 PM
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think you're living it though, buddy. Part of it anyway. Might as well own that. There are women and men who love that. I suspect the problem is that a lot of redpillers want wives who are into it, and not every woman is. Especially outside the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 08:01 PM
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but my point is that it's probably not a smorgasbord for most men in LTRs, and they seem to be ok with that. They're not starving, but it's not a smorgasbord.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 07:59 PM
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That's why I come back to sexual attraction being what makes or breaks a marriage. No way. Can't tell you how many divorced women who said the sex was great, but the marriage was fucking unworkable otherwise. If you want a 'public' example, Marilyn Monroe said that about her marriage to Arthur Miller.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 07:57 PM
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but in another thread you mentioned that your wife asks your permission to have a beer, etc. That sounds like D/s stuff to me. No judgement, if both people are happy with that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 07:10 PM
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I hear you on this. Makes sense to me. I guess for us women, the stereotype is that a lot of guys go for women ONLY for the sexual attraction. Maybe this is so important to them that they rush to marry the first woman they have good sex with, instead of being patient and realizing that good sex, while it's a non-negotiable, shouldn't be the main criterion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:40 PM
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yeah, i'm picking up on that. That part of RP is certainly healthy, and it's advice that women's magazines are full of. I think women tend to just naturally invest in different types of relationships more than men, whereas a married guy is quite dependant on his wife for his social life. She's also better at 'self care' then men. It's that nurturing aspect. But with women working outside the home, we have less time to care for our husbands. I think teaching men to do this for themselves has been…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:23 PM
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Would you consider that you're in a D/s relationship with your wife? I have a feeling very sexual people, both men and women, might be drawn toward this because everyday interactions are highly sexualized due to the constant power exchange, which is the source of the sexual satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:18 PM
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Do you suspect that you do (no pressure to answer if you're not comfy with the question)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:03 PM
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yup. my husband didn't like it when i made more, but he wouldn't have admitted that to anyone except me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 01:27 AM
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it's obvious why rock stars are getting laid, no need to even discuss that. Her major point was that men who could get any woman often choose women for their talent above their looks. Which makes sense -- talent is attracted to talent. She's saying this is one of the things that makes these guys 'real' alphas -- they can have the prettiest girl in the room, but they're confident enough to want more than that. I don't know enough about TRP yet, but if it's true they really only value sex appeal i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:00 PM
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this is more of a white thing than a black or hispanic thing (asians are mostly thin anyway). but from what i've seen, it's manhattan, staten island and the white parts of queens and brooklyn. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:24 PM
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huh, this is interesting. you're able to get with married women, not single women. There's definitely something going on here, and I would explore it further if I were you. I bet you'd learn a lot about what's holding you back wit the kinds of women you want by examining why you're able to get with the kinds of women you don't want. I guess the obvious pop psychology explanation is that you feel much more confident when the stakes are lower and you have built in boundaries. Married women should …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:06 PM
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I think regional differences are HUGE with this one. When I lived in New York, the average women I saw was attractive, and not overweight. And you better believe she was gainfully employed -- NYC is not for underachievers, not if you want to make rent. There are a lot of reasons for this thinness (a phenomenon that has even been documented and studied), including an overabundance of single women and under abundance of straight men. Also just all those subway stairs you have to climb, and you do …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:49 PM
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something tells me you're not laughing on the inside. actually, some of the more attractive high powered career women in NYC who grew up in uniformed service neighbourhoods and knew what they wanted young married firemen, and I have yet to see one of those relationships end in divorce. Each seems really proud of the other one. Firemen and cops seem to get married quite young. But I think it's a trick for everyone to know what they want in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:55 PM
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oh shit, i would worry about the damage that would do if you're not familiar with NYC and what a tournament it is. things are crazy there right now, especially if you're trying to raise a family. It would be like sending a woman to redpill. that site is totally unfiltered, not even usernames. a lot of women are struggling with marriages and saying a lot of bitter stuff they don't mean. Men come on there all the time who say they're glad women aren't like this in real life. You would not be doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:41 PM
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I'm on another website that happens to include a lot of high powered women, and a frequent topic of conversation is how tough it is to find men because of their success. A lot of these women say they know through bitter experience that men can't handle it when a woman makes more than them or has a more successful career. Now, maybe they're wrong but they certainly believe it's right. Those women would be in the 60 percent, not because they're looking for a meal ticket, but because they believe m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:23 PM
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You're only looking at one side of the equation. What about the burden on women who are now allowed and expected to be strong, smart, no longer need to seek power through passive aggressive means, etc. and then they find that a lot of men find those qualities emasculating and unsexy and resent the hell out of them? In that way, society has changed but a lot of men have not changed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:40 PM
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i think /u/honeypuppy just gave you the best analysis on here. If you're being realistic about the women you go after, meaning you're not pushing past women at your level to get to the bombshells every other guys is going for, then it shouldn't be this much of a struggle for you. If it is, it's time to look at personality issues, not your own physical attractiveness (especially since women rate height as their most attractive physical trait, not muscles). You said you're highly intelligent. Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:32 PM
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if he's talking about beautiful young women dating men for their money, of course that goes on (although this wasn't even a good example of that). Just like rich old men date certain women for their youth and beauty. It's a fact of life among a small number of 'elites,' (or 'very shallow people' depending on your POV) and not applicable to us ordinary people, who have ordinary looks and bank accounts to trade on. The only men I can see who would really become so discouraged by this example is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:14 PM
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ok, i understand what you're saying a lot better now. it's great that there are so many guys out there fighting for their marriages. i certainly wish you all the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:04 PM
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women initiate divorce, but how much of this is because the guy was cheating? if we're bring up anecdotals, in my world, no women, myself included, left their husbands due to prolonged unemployment, and where i knew the reason for divorce, it was the woman leaving the man for cheating, or the man leaving his wife for a younger woman. I agree 100 per cent that women tend to shift focus to the baby, leaving their husbands feeling very neglected. But it would be a mistake to conclude this means the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:53 PM
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Would you argue that men can feel unconditional love? Because anyone who works in health care can tell you that men leave women at alarming rates when they get serious diseases like cancer. Not all men, OF COURSE. But enough that it's a 'thing.' A lot of men also leave women when they get older. From my female perspective, I can't imagine anything more disloyal or dishonorable than that. To me, if love could go away when the person you love gets older or becomes sick (ie needs your love the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:04 PM
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I don't know, but I have noticed that marriages between white collar women and blue collar men seem to be really lasting and stable. The guys seem really proud of their smart, successful wives (maybe because they do such different work that there's no competition), and the women seem really proud of their masculine husbands. maybe these guys are what redpillers would call 'naturals' if I'm understanding the term right...?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 03:02 PM
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Well, I guess I keep coming back to the same question because nobody seems to have an answer for it. If women are fundamentally amoral, disloyal, dishonorable, and incapable of loving you back, how would you possibly love one? How could you feel anything romantic toward her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 02:57 PM
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well put. agreed, 100 per cent. I always think of the Samantha character on Sex and the City as a gay man in disguise. I'm guessing this character was written by gay men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 02:54 PM
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huh. i guess i would have assumed that blue collar guys are naturally a little more alpha, and since most haven't been to college, feminism may be less on their radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:37 AM
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I get the impression that RP is largely white collar men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:14 AM
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So you'll just do a kind of serial monogamy thing, but trade them in for a younger model every few years?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:24 AM
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a worldview that dark is a very heavy price to pay. And I don't think there's any way to fully insulate yourself against being hurt, not in this world. But good luck to you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:22 AM
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Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 11:49 PM
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But why? If you don't want a committed relationship or kids, you don't really like women and you only want them for sex? Are you just grossed out by the thought of hookers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 11:48 PM
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we do. that's the whole point. we have much wider variation in our tastes. When I was young I happily dated average looking guys because I was attracted to how nice, smart and funny they were. When was the last time you heard of a good looking guy dating an average looking women because of her personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 11:27 PM
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instead of submitting to the risks of plastic surgery, why wouldn't you just hire prostitutes? Money won't be an issue if you're rich, and you wouldn't need to worry about your own appearance or running head games on women. If all you want is sex and it can only be from hot young women, why not cut to the chase?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 11:19 PM
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so what's your strategy for when you're old and ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 11:07 PM
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It's not about you. The fact that you think it is -- that's why you're not contributing to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:35 PM
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of course the richest most powerful men get more opportunities. Wealth and power are very attractive to a lot of women. But so is sense of humour. And character. And personality. And looks. Women are much more varied in our tastes than men. This was obvious starting in fucking high school. The reason you don't see it is that you only see the hottest women -- all others are invisible to you. Since men are NOT variable in their taste, all the men are going for these same few women, and they can ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:33 PM
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well I'm talking about the OKCupid piece, which does show that men are all going for the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:26 PM
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So your input on this topic is that you don't care about anyone other than the hot women because you can get hot women? Irrelevant contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:22 PM
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from the study: "When it comes down to actually choosing targets, men choose the modelesque. 2/3 of male messages go to the top 1/3 of women. Someone like roomtodance above gets nearly 5 times as many messages as a typical woman and 28 times as many messages as a woman at the low end of our curve. Site-wide, two-thirds of male messages go to the best-looking third of women. So basically, guys are fighting each other 2-for-1 for the absolute best-rated females, while plenty of potentially charmin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:19 PM
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of course you have defects. we all do. I don't know, I'm really trying to understand this whole thing. I'm kind of stunned by it all. I'd heard the term 'manosphere' before but just assumed it was a bunch of guys talking about sports and cars and sex etc. I'd heard of the men's rights movement, but it just seemed like a joke. I am definitely having my eyes opened to the level of suffering out there among some men, and the way they're raised not to know how to advocate for themselves in relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 10:14 PM
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So there's only hot women and hambeasts in this world? You guys sure know how to make it hard for yourselves. If you're going to rule out everyone who's not hot, over age 25 and has had more than a couple of sexual partners, congratulations -- you've just ruled out the vast majority of the dating pool. Let's just hope you can compete with every other man on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:59 PM
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what this study shows is that the GUY wants to fuck that 8, 9 or 10. All the guys are going for the same few women, whereas women have more of a variety of tastes and preferences. That said, obviously you should still try to improve your chances by looking as good as you reasonably can, but if you really wanted to get laid, you'd remove yourself from the pile-on and branch out in your tastes. If there's one thing I've noticed about the dudes on here it's that so many of you, when you say 'women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 09:28 PM
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Unattractive women get shunned, but I guess there's always some guy willing to have a drunk one night stand with them. Here's where men and women are very different: a guy might say 'oh well, at least I got laid, that's something.' A woman would very likely feel used and even worse about herself after that. And the chance she actually gets an orgasm out of it of course would be minimal. This is what I don't understand about RP resentment of young, attractive women. They may have the power to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:05 AM
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are you happy (reasonably) in your LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:45 PM
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not in this case. she's wealthy herself, and she could get a wealthy, good-looking young guy. Instead, she chose for personality and character. He chose for youth and beauty. Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:43 PM
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also, i'm confused. if you've been in a committed relationship for 8 years, why are you talking about your expectations of women being low and yet so many of them still don't meet these? do you cheat on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:02 PM
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huh? you mean 'isn't hot'?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 10:58 PM
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i'm going to go ahead and guess that you're older (a young guy wouldn't think to say he's still got all his hair) and exclusively into much younger women (using their lingo: i.e. hawt). in that case, yes, you have to make major sacrifices in other areas to select for youth. And if you're not willing to get married and have kids, then your market value, as the redpillers like to say, just plummeted. If you were willing to go for a woman closer to your own age, quality would go up hugely. But, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 10:52 PM
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holy shit. so men are allowed to cheat on women BECAUSE they're morally superior!! Why do these guys even need a dumbass 'philosophy' to justify what they're going to do? that's the part that pisses me off. It would be so much less hypocritical to just say hey, I don't care if it's fair. I don't care if it's a double standard. I'm doing it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 10:09 PM
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your marriage was bad. his might not be. it's too bad that he may never get a chance to try it, or to have kids. that's a lot to take away from a young guy at the start of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 10:06 PM
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you know, if you just substituted 'people' instead of women, it would all sound reasonable to me. is that what you mean? would you say that any man has it in him to be a dishonourable douchebag as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:56 PM
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If they're filling impressionable young minds full of hate that they themselves don't really even believe, then yes they are. How often have redpillers even on this thread said that the extremes aren't serious or aren't taken seriously and men know when it's just venting or guy talk or what to take seriously and what to ignore. Well, inexperienced, scared, frustrated teenage boys don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:54 PM
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no, i mean for you as an alpha, what's your idea of romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:48 PM
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what's tingles?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:47 PM
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and what can these women expect from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 05:50 PM
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what are those expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:57 PM
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A woman who could pick any guy in the world did not pick a good-looking young guy. She picked an ugly older guy because he's funny and has a great personality. The money issue is moot in this case because they're both rich, and they both live in a world of other rich famous people. When all other things were equal, that same old shitty dynamic still happened: women were rewarded for looks and youth, men for personality. Pull your head out of your ass and look at the reality right in front of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:56 PM
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for you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:42 PM
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Why don't you instead ask why a smart, funny guy doesn't want to date a smart, funny woman his own age? This is why women give up on dating. Men elevate beautiful young women to the absolute highest tier and hordes of them of all ages, income levels and attractiveness throw themselves at these women, pushing aside a lot of great ladies in their singleminded focus. A model could get a rich young good looking guy but instead she went for the rich older ugly guy with the great personality and sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:14 PM
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What would your ideal relationship to women look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:55 PM
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Listen to yourself. When men do it, hey it's just venting. Edit: if you were a woman, you'd be a radical feminist. It's the willingness to take it to an extreme that characterizes both groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:52 PM
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But that doesn't answer the question. How could you possibly know that the majority of men who leave redpill do so because they've used it successfully?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:47 PM
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In the same way that a group exists 'only' to call her a dishonourable whore? There are extremes on both ends. Neither extreme recognizes it in themselves, only in the other. Each extreme thinks their side is reasonable and based on overwhelming experience and observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:37 PM
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I'm not pretending my marriage is perfect. No marriage is. In the real world we all struggle with the demands of work, child and elder care, running a household and making room for the things that make us happy. Under the circumstances I think I'm a pretty good wife, and my husband is pretty good too. And that should be enough for reasonable people. It's always good to pull yourself out of your busy, demanding life and remind yourself to appreciate what you have. Most people could benefit from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:33 PM
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I actually do see that on TRP. I also see men who don't have good life skills and maybe their wives don't either (makes sense that they would end up with each other) and to fix it, are buying a bunch of fraudulent, hateful BS that plays into their worst fears and insecurities in an attempt to build them up. I don't care about the playas on there to figure out how to get laid more. But I feel very bad for those other men and their families. Look, there's great advice on there, ironically taking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:21 PM
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How would an alpha define romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:08 PM
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How on earth would you know that men are moving on because of success and not failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:05 PM
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Thx! He is a mix of virtues and flaws just like me, and all of us. But yeah, he's a good guy overall and I'm lucky!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:57 PM
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But it's those teenage boys I worry about most. I suspect a lot of the posters talking tough are men going through the hell of a bitter divorce. They're venting their rage against the wife but as statistics show most of them will get remarried, sooner than later. There are so many inactivated or deleted accounts on there. You know redpoll was just a phase for them. But what about those inexperienced kids who are being told to use and abuse sluts and never get married? They're taking this shit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:55 PM
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But only on the women's side, LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:48 PM
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that's not obvious, that's inference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:38 PM
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but just to be clear, I was doing those things before. I'm just working harder on my marriage. And it's a good thing. edit: since I see you're a TRP mod...several RPers on here have said people need to look past the shit talking on that site in order to get at nuggets of wisdom. But not many people, men or women, are going to look past the savage way most of the posters talk about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:27 PM
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And men leaving their wives for younger women is not a leading cause for divorce? A man at least has a fighting chance if he gets another job. Nothing a woman can do about the crime of getting older. My god, pull your head out of your ass and take a look around. Don't just notice the things that bother you. Try to see the other side too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:25 PM
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If you're not from an English speaking country, I'm impressed by your English!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:12 PM
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Vox is left-oriented? Since when? All i've ever seen linked from them agrees with the centre-right-wing. I'm going to guess you're not from the US, LOL. I can see Vox being centre-right in the UK maybe....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:10 PM
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yes, some women do leave men who lose their jobs. That's awful and disloyal. Some men leave their wives for younger women. That's also awful and disloyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:06 PM
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how come everything on RP is about women doing bad things, and men needing to learn to handle those bad things? You'd think men have no failings on their own, except their inability to gain mastery over women....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:59 PM
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Doctors (male and female) are huge gossips! Unfortunately, they gossip about their patients. Cops are pretty gossipy too. Lots of crazy, nasty internal politics in hospitals and police precincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:57 PM
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you realize this theory is just that, right? it's not based on any evidence. it's literally what some dude wrote down on a piece of paper. Like I said, I was in bad relationships, and I didn't cheat because I'm not a cheater. There are plenty of women and men like that. And there are plenty who aren't. The older I get the more I learn how complicated people and their motivations are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:42 PM
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huh? what's your idea of it not working? this guy thought it 'worked' because he imagined she was trying to game him and he didn't let himself be cowed by hearing about all the horrible things a woman could do to him. that's all RP paranoia. What 'worked' was that they had a nice, engaged interaction. In the past, he would have barely listened to the story, which would have made her feel blown off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:38 PM
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complaining that women have no honor or loyalty implies that men do. if neither does, then it's all a moot point and those words wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:32 PM
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what makes you think I didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:29 PM
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but that's the thing: wanting to make yourself the best you can be for your partner is not what defines RP because it's too basic and widespread. Every relationship expert in the world will tell you that's very important. Lots of feminists think so too. Here's another thing I've been curious about: how do you explain women who don't cheat on their husbands? Because I never have and never will. I've never cheated on anyone, despite being in a range of relationships from good to shitty. How is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:29 PM
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And what about men? I work in health care, and one thing that is very clear is that men leave sick women way, way more than the other way around. There is nothing on this earth more disloyal and dishonorable than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:23 PM
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except that he's not a redpiller. he respects my opinions, knows how to compromise, can see nuance in the world, doesn't think of women as incapable of loyalty or honor, and would never, ever think of women as sluts or whores. So, that's a big difference. I'm not taking RP's advice, friend. I'm learning how to appreciate all the things my husband is not! And edit: I know, I know, you think you know my husband better than I do because all men think the way you do about women, whether they can adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:58 PM
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i have read some of that sidebar stuff, and you don't sound too redpilly to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:52 PM
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The reason it worked for him is because he actually did the work and changed himself instead of expecting everyone else to change around and for him. He made himself better and more attractive, sexually and otherwise. edit: The reason it worked for him is because he actually did the work and changed himself instead of expecting everyone else to change around and for him. He made himself better and more attractive, sexually and otherwise. And this, of course, is a good thing for everyone. You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:51 PM
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ok then maybe there's something I'm not getting about RP, because these men would consider themselves to be feminists. I thought RP theory divides men into alphas and betas and women into madonnas or whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:48 PM
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i can see that. one thing that surprised me about RP was how much the guys on there want to be wanted. Lota guys stop taking care of themselves after marriage (women too, of course). What I absolutely can't get past is this idea that women have no loyalty or honour. What a savage and distorted way to think about half the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:44 PM
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OK another confession: I also read it for the bro lingo. I get such a kick out of that. There was a guy who went into an all caps crazy scary tirade about killing all women (I assume it was a hoax). In the response, someone wrote "dude, pump the brakes!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:37 PM
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What strikes me is that there are (a few) men on there who can take the exact same advice and philosophy and genuinely improve their marriage, and there are men who will end up divorced because of the way they try to implement that same advice. If you're a respectful, sensible person, you will treat your spouse with civility and fairness no matter what BS philosophy you believe in. Here's an example of a guy who used RP to learn to take care of himself better, to understand what he wants out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:34 PM
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yeah, i can even appreciate where RP has some sensible things to say: working out is great for your appearance, physical and emotional health and your self esteem. Developing hobbies and male friends is also excellent advice. Too many married men don't have either, and they end up depending on their wives for everything. Also, it seems like a lot of those guys genuinely are at a loss for how to speak up for themselves and get their needs met in relationships, and everyone needs to learn how to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:04 PM
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