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You ignored pretty much my entire response: 1.Why would patriarchy necessarily benefit men? 2.Could you clarify this: Patriarchy implies there is something that men do to women for their own benefit. 3.The following: But societal constructs do not seem to work this way from anything I have seen in life. Women inherit most of their beliefs and ideas from women, and men from men. implies that you believe that women cannot be complicit in perpetuating patriarchy. Why couldn't they be? Power being h…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 08:12 PM
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What is this patriarchy theory? Where are you getting this from? It ignores the historical reasons for arrangements that seem unfair when viewed from our own perspective. Are you saying that coverature or denied suffrage were fair, given their historical context?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:57 PM
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What do feminists actually do, and what policies do they actually support. I'm remembering the movement that won suffrage, ended coverature, and enabled women to hold the same jobs men do. Tell me about their nefarious undertakings.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:50 PM
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From wikipedia: Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women. In addition, feminism seeks to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist is "an advocate or supporter of the rights and equality of women". I would argue that wikipedia's definition is accurate. Using your parameters, but changing them for accuracy, I would say that feminism is based on th…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:30 PM
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Various laws and institutions have existed for historical reasons. I don't know what you're tyring to say here. Do you? Patriarchy is not an overarching conspiracy by men to enslave women. It is a social system in when men have a larger share of power. Most societies either are patriarchies, or were patriarchies within the last century.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:22 PM
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Patriarchy is a social system where the power is held primarily by men. There is clear evidence that Saudi Arabia is a Patriarchy. Most societies either are patriarchies, or were patriarchies within the last century. Beyond this, replying is difficult. Your arguments are convoluted. Why would patriarchy necessarily benefit men? Could you clarify this: Patriarchy implies there is something that men do to women for their own benefit. The following: But societal constructs do not seem to work this …
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:20 PM
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What is the difference between a global conspiracy and a specific ideology? Are you claiming that feminists believe that all men are complicit in the oppression of women? Are you claiming that these are the views of all feminists?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 06:40 PM
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I disagree. Feminism was a rational and necessary response to grave inequalities in our society. You should remember woman's historical status, and the recency of liberation in western nations. Furthermore, I would argue that feminism has not gone too far, but rather that in granting women equality certain inequalities have been established, by the perpetuation of sexist mores in our culture and law.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:18 PM
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I find the patriarchy of Saudi Arabia entirely tangible. I would, furthermore, refer to a nation which does not allow women the right to vote as a Patriarchy, and refer you to the 19th Amendment. Coverture is another example of patriarchy in effect.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:14 PM
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This is a great reply. Thanks.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:08 PM
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This may be true, I don't really know. You'd have to define patriarchy as defined by feminists, and then define patriarchy as it actually exists, and then your statement could be evaluated for accuracy. I find it interesting that you believe that men are oppressed, but are dubious about the possibility of the oppression of women.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:03 PM
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What about in Saudi Arabia, or China? Is there any evidence of Patriarchy there?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:01 PM
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Does patriarchy exist in Islamic nations? Did Patriarchy ever exist in western nations? Can socioeconomic aftereffects remain from an institution that no longer exists?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 04:58 PM
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Are you claiming that suffrage, coverture and labor laws are all part of a false history, or only that patriarchy no longer exists in the US? Because the latter assertion is somewhat reasonable, but the former...
/r/MensRights23/09/12 04:56 PM
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In my personal experience men have been worse about homophobia, but women have been worse about enforcing gender roles.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 05:23 PM
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Why r/MensRights adversarial toward feminism? It seems to me that the special privileges women have are a product of patriarchy. Is the resentment here because feminism only seeks to undo the injustices women face without addressing undue privilege, or is there something I'm missing?
/r/MensRights22/09/12 05:01 PM
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that guy in the sweatervest fashion police, just doing their jobs.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 04:30 AM
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