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yo this is really fucked up of you to do, it's really not fair to project your communication issues onto all women, saying "i'm one woman who says no when i mean yes, therefore don't take 'no' seriously" to a bunch of impressionable college kids on a subreddit w/o a disclaimer like this is hella irresponsible at the very least
/r/MensRights03/07/12 11:28 PM
3

i mean idk what kinda dates yr going on, but most of the girls i date dont really talk about their genitals before dinner is over so idk where yr getting "deliberately" from.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 12:47 AM
1

yo if for some reason i have some weird hangup where i don't like sleeping with women who are left-handed, the onus is on me to ask, not them to disclose, esp. if we lived in a culture where left handed people were routinely targeted by violent bigots~
/r/MensRights19/06/12 04:17 PM
3

how about the bechdel test for men be 1) at least two men 2) who talk to each other 3) about something other than a woman o wait thats literally every movie lmao
/r/MensRights10/06/12 02:44 AM
-10

in a society where women do, and are expected to do the majority of private (domestic) labor, the systematic devaluation of it is in fact misogynistic.
/r/MensRights03/05/12 04:06 AM
56

gonna start callin u "upvoted mensrights poster teefs"
/r/MensRights08/02/12 08:25 AM
0

no way man thatd mean im eating poop >:[
/r/MensRights31/01/12 03:39 PM
-4

SRS often claims to represent women/feminists/etc this would be a huge overstepping of our bounds, esp since our userbase is majority male, just like the rest of reddit. there are women who post on srs and there are feminists who speak for srs but it would be awful presumptuous for us 2 say "SRS speaks for all women".
/r/MensRights31/01/12 12:42 AM
-11

minority = those who do not hold positions of social privilege including: transgender people, POC, women, PWD etc. i defy you to tell me that a website where mockery of or hatred for these people is repeatedly upvoted can be a safe space for the people who are the targets of this vitriol, and come across it in almost any thread they go to. again, this is not something you can really be qualified to speak on unless you have experienced oppression directly.
/r/MensRights31/01/12 12:20 AM
-23

SRS was started by reddit_sux, who to my knowledge, was not a goon, before the first SA thread about reddit was made, im not sure how much clearer i can make this; saying that SA "started" SRS just because it was around before it is absurd, it's like saying i started /r/mensrights because i was born 20some years ago. In the end you are just another fascist control freak hiding under a guise. only accurate part of ur post
/r/MensRights30/01/12 09:05 PM
-19

read my post dummy, reddit thread. celot posted the first one last spring iirc, SRS had been around since late 2010. i do enjoy being able to post here, but i don't think we are looking for the same things. mensrights was explicitly made to be a place where the majority voice is most prevalent, which can be achieved with absolute free speech; anarchic systems consolidate and entrench power. SRS is not looking to do this, and since free speech is not a first principle or anything, i think that mo…
/r/MensRights30/01/12 08:55 PM
-18

i'm a hetero cis man, and a very special snowflake, and i'm not offended by this at all. personally i think the rest of you are just overreacting.
/r/MensRights30/01/12 08:43 PM
-29

few points: the sub was created by people at the SomethingAweful forums as a way to troll redditors /r/shitredditsays predates the somethingawful reddit thread by a couple of months, many SRS users are also goons, but many are not The entirety of SRS is meant to mess with people and troll with them. this is coming from a position of privilege, this is the effect SRS may have on you, and others who seek to reassert male privilege, but this is not our intention. the internet, especially reddit, is…
/r/MensRights30/01/12 08:32 PM
0

good post(s) /r/SRSDiscussion could use you, yr wasting yr time here...
/r/MensRights27/01/12 12:10 AM
-20

i rarely ban people, thats more hp's job, but 2 answer your question i hate the bourgeois notion of free speech so "enjoying" is the wrong word.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 09:26 PM
-12

u forgotto mention my hueg penis...
/r/MensRights30/12/11 08:36 PM
-40

the end result is that you cannot post on SRS anymore, and i cant say i'm terribly upset about that
/r/MensRights22/12/11 02:49 AM
-35

*definitely
/r/MensRights22/12/11 02:14 AM
-72

yuore thoughts probably sucked
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:53 AM
-23

no veil about it, we are all radical feminists, and we exist for the sole purpose of stealing ur karma/sperm
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:52 AM
-1

thats one of yr guys, not us
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:52 AM
-4

loooooooooooooool how old are you do you really see it as that black and white?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:33 AM
-6

sure, if theoretically, women enjoyed positions of cultural, social, and economic privilege, the majority of mass media was specifically targeted to a female perspective, men were and have been subjected to institutionalized sexual violence by women on an endemic basis, and traits considered feminine were privileged over those considered masculine, then individual men would be able to gain marginal advantages in this system by perpetuating institutional misandry :o maybe that is why some men are…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:20 AM
-11

looooll it's not that it's not their fault, it's that patriarchal systems allow individual women to gain an advantage by endorsing misogynistic norms and this study is actually a p concise illustration of that.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 01:30 AM
-9

well i mean to be perfectly honest i would prefer the sort of paranoid/mcarthyite moderation style that you are advocating as a SRS person, just because that would be easier to make fun of. fortunately for us even absent that there is still the content of this subreddit~
/r/MensRights02/12/11 02:17 PM
1

the whole "butthurt" thing is p homophobic but yea if u dont find the content of that subreddit, troll or not, offensive then u have som p serious problems!!1
/r/MensRights02/12/11 02:57 AM
-6

It is disturbing on a level that none of the above boards or their content can approach. The fact that you see the curtailing of your perceived right to absolute free speech as more disturbing than incitements towards or acts of violence towards people simply for their gender says a lot about your priorities, and the fact that this comment has been upvoted does the same for this subreddit.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 08:32 PM
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It is disturbing on a level that none of the above boards or their content can approach. The fact that you see the curtailing of your perceived right to absolute free speech as more disturbing than incitements towards or acts of violence towards people simply for their gender says a lot about your priorities, and the fact that this comment has been upvoted does the same for this subreddit.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 08:31 PM
3

they really don't even try to hide hteir blatant misandry its really disgusting.
/r/MensRights29/11/11 11:43 PM
2

i have a feeling we are working on different definitions of liberal also being able race only as an artificial construct is a p significant privilege, since as someone ascribed as white in my home country, i have not experienced significant oppression as a result of my artificial racial identity
/r/MensRights29/11/11 06:39 PM
1

~ i wish there were more redditors who deserved to be treated like adults but life isn't perfect ~
/r/MensRights29/11/11 06:34 PM
3

actually most/all liberals are racist on some level because they frame their worldview through morally bankrupt individualism that both obscures oppression on the collective level and plays into victim blaming/fundamental attribution error hth~
/r/MensRights29/11/11 06:31 PM
2

yup, i would, i think the kids who don't really get that the point of srs is to point out how popular bigoted opinions are on reddit will read the links, think "I DISAGREE WITH THAT" and mash the downvote arrow whereas the rest of us have sort of given up on reddit already given its userbase and also think that making sure good shit is upvoted and bad shit is downvoted on this particular social media aggregator is not a form of activism we would feel comfortable putting much time into
/r/MensRights29/11/11 03:42 PM
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~i cant be racist im a liberal~
/r/MensRights29/11/11 03:26 AM
-2

this is boring try and call me a bigot some more instead
/r/MensRights28/11/11 11:23 PM
3

emmanuel goldstein silly but perhaps... i am the true bigot!
/r/MensRights28/11/11 11:08 PM
2

can i say how stoked i am that we've overtaken AMR as your goldstein?
/r/MensRights28/11/11 11:03 PM
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I think these are necessary policy changes, we've had to deal with misandrist trolls for too long around these parts, and I think our commitment to Free Speech has led us to be a bit too lenient. Keep up the good work, fellow warriors.
/r/MensRights28/11/11 02:06 PM
7

~charisma~
/r/MensRights13/11/11 09:10 PM
10

upvote dis post^
/r/MensRights13/11/11 08:38 AM
6

keep posting on this account if you don't mind. i moderate a subreddit called /r/shitredditsays, if you made some posts there while pretending to be me it would cause quite a ruckus!!
/r/MensRights13/11/11 03:13 AM
9

r/mensrights is already a toilet
/r/MensRights13/11/11 02:56 AM
28

i lurk in their irc too, i can confirm this
/r/MensRights13/11/11 01:50 AM
22

"turned into" lol
/r/MensRights13/11/11 01:50 AM
8

awesome
/r/MensRights13/11/11 01:50 AM
6

like half of our traffic in the month of august was from x-posts by mellowgreen and others to mens rights, the initial boost of traffic we got was when someone i had trolled on here creeped my post history and found the redditrequest/posted in on /mr. if we had just been left alone we woulda gotten bored and walked away but we got such a great reaction, not to mention tons of traffic from "SRS_Notifier", it was really instrumental to our early growth~
/r/MensRights09/11/11 07:29 PM
8

fun fact if this rule had been in place 3 months ago there would be no srs <3 u guyz
/r/MensRights09/11/11 10:46 AM
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this post is privilege
/r/MensRights06/11/11 08:22 PM
1

what about innocent until proven guilty? its truly a shame to see that this subreddit has fallen to homonormative feminasties... :(
/r/MensRights05/11/11 10:43 AM
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yo its cool he's puttin an inordinate amount of attention into the Internet but he's watchen tv same time, its cool man
/r/MensRights03/11/11 05:50 AM
10

want to get married?
/r/MensRights02/11/11 01:38 AM
6

the internet is not the locus of social justice activism, you guys can post whatever u want on here, i do shit irl and if i thought downvoting posts on reddit was all someone needs to do to "fight the good fight" then thatd be p silly hth~
/r/MensRights02/11/11 12:24 AM
0

so hold on if there is a statistically significant relationship between gender and score on a particular test, then the test is not gender biased?
/r/MensRights31/10/11 06:03 PM
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if u think feminist theory srsly claims that patriarchy is a top-down process, that all men benefit equally from patriarchy, and that women have absolutely zero agency, then ur not payin v much attention hth
/r/MensRights29/10/11 12:17 AM
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/r/mensrights is not misogynistic
/r/MensRights27/10/11 08:36 AM
1

id say that was more me not wanting to burn bridges or appear overreaching, i hope you can tell from what i said that i was pretty against this, it took me a while to talk certain people out of doing this, but i think my approach to doing that worked best in the end.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 09:12 PM
2

You'd hear some yelling if you were in channel now.. Im hoping that this silly bullshit is just going to blow over, i know one of the people responsible doesn't know have a reddit account, the other is probably not going to tell me his/hers, so if that action was available to me, id take it. I have said that I think this is pretty shitty form, i can post some more chat logs once im at a computer again, basically to the effect of "this is a stupid way of doing shit, srs works because its all accu…
/r/MensRights22/10/11 09:02 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/aMNxI.png anything i said before 15:57 can't be taken at face value, because i believed it was a real picture. at 15:57 i found out it was a shop, and started yelling at the dorks who thought this would be a good idea.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:53 PM
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if ur gonna post screenshots at least post them in context. see also
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:27 PM
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i can verify that this picture is photoshopped, the troll who made this bragged to us about it. needless to say i don't approve of the tactics being used by the op, nor do the rest of us at srs. i think its p. bad form to make shit up when there's such untapped veins of real shit out there, so apologies to /mr for this, its bush-league.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:17 PM
0

I'd Like To Add That I Dont Care About Systemic Male Oppression
/r/MensRights19/10/11 07:48 AM
1

Reminder that I can do 200 pushups without taking a break
/r/MensRights15/10/11 07:27 PM
3

Im from srs, but the imp account is not
/r/MensRights15/10/11 01:11 AM
-4

I unchecked mine until its something more impressive than "troll". How about grand feminazi fuhrer or some wacky bullshit like that?
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:40 AM
-1

Yo please do start a "demod ignatiusloyola for not hating queers enough" campaign, we need some fresh material.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:33 AM
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SRS and AMR people are not here because we are trying to be LGBT-inclusive, they are here because of the prejudicial remarks made by some of the members here. confirm
/r/MensRights13/10/11 03:18 PM
-1

you're making some value judgments with your words that I don't think you intend to make. If you seriously do not want to sleep with a woman unless she was assigned female at birth, thats your hangup, not hers. You have the right to choose your partners, but you do not have the right to expect them to furnish you with their medical history for yr approval. It is cis privilege to assume that every woman you meet was assigned female at birth, the fact that its currently the social norm to make tha…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:10 PM
9

Nah its pretty agreed upon that misgendering trans women is not an act of support, hth
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:05 PM
-5

Well u don't really need to assume they're cis, women are women either way, but if you have a particular preference for cis women, then its your obligation to make sure you're only fucking cis woman, not her obligation to dispel your assumption.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 07:55 PM
-6

Ya fuckin nerd, this is not the same thing. You should not be assuming that all women are cisgendered, putting the burden on trans women to dispel your cisnormativity is p unfair. If yr really so 20th century that gasp it might give you the Gay!, then its your job to ask, not their job to tell you and risk bodily harm.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 07:29 PM
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If I assumed a woman I slept with shared my devotion to the epic saga of son goku's struggles against cosmic evil, power gone mad, and indeed, himself (I refer of course to the dragonball series), then found out sje didn't, I wouldn't be able to legitimately claim I was deceived, I just made an incorrect assumption. Assuming that all women I might sleep with are cis is just that, an assumption. If the possibility of sleeping with a trans woman is really that unsettling to u, the burden is on you…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 07:26 PM
2

the mods actually have a montly product placement quota duracell ikea budweiser
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:50 AM
7

wasnt the mod who said this but to be clear he meant feminist /r/circlejerk we are not actually masturbating in a circle hth
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:48 AM
3

so are nidokings
/r/MensRights06/10/11 04:31 AM
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6 of the 7 srs mods identify as male hh
/r/MensRights05/10/11 11:25 PM
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man if someone has a preconceived notion about someone else that turns out not to be true, that person isn't "deceiving" them, the first person just made a false assumption. you didn't deceive me into thinking this post would be awful just because it was by you, that's just something I assumed, which means its my responsibility if i end up being wrong (i wasnt in this case so the analogy dont really hold but hey)
/r/MensRights26/09/11 08:58 AM
1

Your point is well taken, even if SRS isn't a downvote squad in intent, it certainly has the effect of bringing more traffic from a certain demographic to certain posts, and that's going to affect the vote totals. I don't really think we're responsible, or care about /MR's pr problems, or its user's internet scores, but I can understand why those who do would be upset by /SRS, and I can see why they wouldn't care much for me or my involvement as a result of it. Them's the breaks, I suppose, I'm …
/r/MensRights26/09/11 12:38 AM
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they are basically the same as r/againstmensrights false, they're doing it to prove a point, i don't have time for that shit because most of the links they post are from men's rights false, most of our links do deal with misogyny, but there are rarely more than a few from /mr specifically at a given time waiting for someone to say something they can (often) take out of context and repost in their forum as an example of "shit reddit says" if we link to the posts, we're a downvote brigade, if we d…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 08:42 PM
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/r/shitredditsays
/r/MensRights22/09/11 04:50 PM
-6

/r/mensrights, activism of the Internet, by the Internet, for the Internet.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 09:01 AM
-4

Very funny, my fellow moderator. I've gone ahead and removed my flair, but i had a laugh :)
/r/MensRights19/09/11 07:13 PM
-12

way to start off on the wrong foot w/ the new mod..
/r/MensRights18/09/11 08:22 PM
-7

I'm honored to accept this position, and I hope it will help me reach new levels in my crusade against the gynocracy. I shall use my newfound internet powers only for good, this i swear, in the name of Henry VIII, the Marquis de Sade, and every other men's rights advocate throughout history. Men shall suffer under the boot of the matriarchy no longer!
/r/MensRights18/09/11 07:33 PM
-9

Everything you've just described can be blamed on the Patriarchy. while true, does not necessarily mean It's da menz' fault!! women perpetuate patriarchy too, but the fundamental model of man as sovereign over his wife is problematic, and has led to a lot of the fucked up gender roles we're dealing with now.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 09:53 PM
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im really glad that even the bigots of /r/mensrights think this post is garbage.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 08:41 PM
4

holy shit this fucking kid
/r/MensRights15/09/11 08:30 PM
-6

U sure do type a lot id write more but typin on a phone is p. Hard and I have a feeling you wouldn't really listen that much so notI gonna wasteask more thanbut a runonlot sentence onnon-argument u but if u want to know where im comin from look up finallyfeminism101 it might do u some good?
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:24 PM
-9

I didn't read ur review or his/her response so I wouldn't know but that's cool man
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:15 PM
-5

When did I say anything about womens "emotional nature" bruh? The fact that women are conditioned in this way is oppressive in and of itself. Women are not stupid, they're just every bit as susceptible to social pressure as us men are. The fact that these pressures are radicallly different is problematic.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:05 PM
-10

I shoulda known there was intersection between redditors and Those Dudes Who Write Amazon Reviews About Politics...
/r/MensRights15/09/11 06:03 PM
-8

At least we agree that this subreddit is useless to people who seriously care about men's issues. The other points you make are soooo 2006
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:43 PM
-11

God I am so not about playing oppression olympics with some 17 year old today
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:40 PM
-5

Choices are made in a social context. Gendered conditioning starts young, and its a two way street, its the same reason men work in more risky occupations. Please don't deliberately miss the point here, it is literally not possible to dissociate the "choices" someone makes from what they have been told a man or a woman should be from day 1 E: also please don't stop there just because you can type a one sentence non-argument against it, read the whole post
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:37 PM
-6

Thats funny because based on ur internet posting I can also give u a medical diagnosis. You post like someone with lyme disease.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:26 PM
-10

The fact that you think that male inmates and homeless are that way because of their gender (plus the fact that you have time to post on reddit) shows how blind u are to your class privilege
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:24 PM
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I can't speak for my subreddit but I am off my fucking rocker, like seriously nuts. For example: I think the group that makes up overwhelming majorities in centers of political, cultural, and economic power might be a privileged, rather than an oppressed group If a person says he/she was raped, my first instinct is something other than to say "you lying piece of shit, you wanted it" I think the gender policing and lack of compassion for male rape/dv victims is the result of something besides FEM…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:21 PM
-5

im not sure what you're talking about
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:46 AM
-7

i agree, x-posts just for posting something a person disagrees with is morally reprehensible.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:25 AM
7

YESSSS i was waiting for somebody to notice that
/r/MensRights10/09/11 08:24 PM
3

lol nice try bruh
/r/MensRights08/09/11 02:52 AM
4

lucky for us, if you aren't completely blinded by ideology, misattribution, and misogyny, the posts quoted are ridiculous on their face and self-evidently exaggerated/false
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:44 PM
4

mb theyre just better posts because yr subreddit/its posters are a joke
/r/MensRights06/09/11 11:43 PM
4

turns out u dont have to be an amr front group to think forums user demonspawn is an idiot who knew
/r/MensRights05/09/11 11:33 PM
-1

they aren't fined, but they're certainly devalued and degraded for it, and i would call that a rape culture. this article is another example of that, the implication that marriage is licence to use the other person's genitals as much as you want is an extremely outdated patriarchal construct. i'm glad /r/mensrights is objecting to this, i'd really like to see them fight against spousal rape when it is normalized against women as well edit: examples for those who asked http://frontiersman.com/art…
/r/MensRights05/09/11 09:25 PM
-3

most feminists i know are extremely pro-spousal rape, thank you for your nuanced analysis
/r/MensRights05/09/11 09:23 PM
5

well i mean who doesn't hate white heterosexual upper-class cis-males? oppression. privilege. shut the fuck up.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 09:17 PM
6

if the term "feminazi" isn't meant to evoke a comparison between feminism and nazism, then why were those three last letters chosen? like for real, this is pretty far down the reddit hole
/r/MensRights05/09/11 09:06 PM
3

Feminazi isn't really a Nazi comparison, a thing that a person actually said with a straight face
/r/MensRights05/09/11 06:39 PM
0

not all of /srs, just me. i'm an acknowledged and accomplished anti-White, but my activism shouldn't taint the rest of the subreddit
/r/MensRights05/09/11 06:12 AM
4

wtf how did you take this screenshot
/r/MensRights05/09/11 03:41 AM
1

eve ensler talked about the girl cells and shit a lot, so probably her?
/r/MensRights05/09/11 02:26 AM
3

which is another difference between us and /amr, we also link to libertarian, politics, atheism, rapeit, and f7u12, because there are more than enough terrible opinions to go around
/r/MensRights05/09/11 12:12 AM
5

yeah dude i saw the ted talk that valerie solanas (1936-1988) gave it was pretty riveting and also it hella existed
/r/MensRights05/09/11 12:11 AM
3

to be clear, we aren't. pointing out the terrible/hilarious shit /mr says is a means to an end for againstmensrights, for us, its an end in itself.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 10:02 PM
4

not to mention the point of the manifesto was explicitly to talk about men the same way institutionalized psychoanalysis and mid 20th century culture talked about women
/r/MensRights04/09/11 04:32 PM
-3

MYTH BUSTED
/r/MensRights04/09/11 03:47 PM
-3

ah that was actually a really well-constructed concern troll, im impressed for real
/r/MensRights04/09/11 08:56 AM
-24

unsuprisingly, the mrm once again fails to move beyond the complaining about a problem on the internet stage
/r/MensRights03/09/11 10:27 PM
-6

i don't think men's rights are a laughing matter, friend. in the time it took me to type this, 12 men were falsely accused of rape by my BITCH EX WIFE
/r/MensRights01/09/11 05:40 AM
-8

i'd like to nominate myself for the position of moderator, i've demonstrated a lasting commitment to men's rights, and i'm extremely dedicated to ensuring a robust and stimulating conversation on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 05:33 AM
-1

UGH MY HEDGE AGAINST INFLATION
/r/MensRights30/08/11 01:46 AM
-9

ok this should be fun. prove through my post history that i am a member of said conspiracy
/r/MensRights30/08/11 12:39 AM
-4

m-m-my internet points ;_;
/r/MensRights29/08/11 07:46 PM
-9

see also: the reason by hoobastank
/r/MensRights28/08/11 04:24 AM
-8

i mean im not gonna play "argue with a mra about what they think feminism is" today, so sorry
/r/MensRights28/08/11 02:46 AM
6

If feminists minimize, victim-blame and ignore male rape victims, i hope you don't think this "if" has been proven by one example of one feminist minimizing victim blaming and ignoring rape victims why should men care about female rape victims? i really hope the mrm isn't taking cues from the worst feminism has to offer
/r/MensRights28/08/11 02:10 AM
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it's pretty intellectually dishonest to draw an ethical parallel between situations where there is and is not a living child without food and clothes but thats just me
/r/MensRights26/08/11 08:50 PM
3

the mrm really is taking its cues on how to organize a gender movement from dworkin and solanas huh. thats cool i guess
/r/MensRights26/08/11 01:31 PM
1

true but no one in this forum has not been "that guy" in a women's studies class
/r/MensRights25/08/11 02:47 PM
8

out of curiosity, does ur age start with 1?
/r/MensRights25/08/11 12:14 PM
4

want to make out? i'm .52, yr in the clear :3
/r/MensRights25/08/11 04:17 AM
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i think you're grossly misinformed about feminism, here let me provide you with what are considered the seminal texts of the feminist movement. http://www.reddit.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/ http://memebase.com/ http://icanhascheezburger.com/ i hope this helps! every feminist worth their salt knows these lengthy tomes inside and out, in fact, its the cornerstone of our philosophy!
/r/MensRights24/08/11 04:15 PM
4

surely u can't be srs!
/r/MensRights24/08/11 12:03 AM
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What she says hardly matters at all, the actual communication is in how she says it and her body language. and this is the fundamental problem i have with PUA. "what she says doesn't matter, what i think she means does". im sure there are some women who say no when they mean yes, but jesus, theres a lot of times when they say no and mean it, and i don't think its healthy to be able training young men to ignore/rationalize women's "no"s away. if you don't want to accidentally rape a person, somet…
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:12 AM
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are u srs??
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:23 PM
1

are u srs??
/r/seduction22/08/11 09:23 PM
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and again, i refer you to If a woman is dressed like a slut, my question is, how can she not expect him to act when these urges are directly created by her willful visual stimulation? could you please give me an example of what rape apology is, if not this? what sort of "action" is being referred to here? i'm really having a hard time believing that you are unable to comprehend how the post i responded to could be interpreted as endorsing rape. Trying to protect the reputation of men that man ha…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 08:14 PM
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this has been bugging me, it's "misandric", not "misandrous". You are the first person in this thread to say th word rape. he never mentioned rape at all. . If a woman is dressed like a slut, my question is, how can she not expect him to act when these urges are directly created by her willful visual stimulation? what is this describing, if it is not describing rape? what action is this justifying, if not justifying rape? honestly, if you can't see this post for what it is, disgusting rape apolo…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 03:46 PM
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ur age starts with "1" doesnt it
/r/MensRights22/08/11 05:43 AM
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Since it's already been proven that men will act based on how they've been visually manipulated, why should she be allowed to manipulate him with impunity? first off, it has not been proven in the slightest that men turn into uncontrollable rape-beasts at the sign of low cut shirts, please stop stereotyping my gender. all you've established is that men's purchasing decisions can be influenced by advertisements showing them something they desire, which is, you know, what the entire advertising in…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 05:09 AM
4

how many pushups can u do???
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:01 PM
5

im thinking about voting for ron paul, what do you think?
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:40 PM
0

your words are more true than you could ever know ;_; til all of my reddit posts are misattibuted penis envy. can i borrow ur shitty little meat tube for a while, just to know what a real boy feels like?
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:32 PM
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is this satire? i dont want to read this post more than once and i was kinda iffy first time thru but ty for your sympathy, my perpetual rape is alas, my cross to bear ;_;
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:28 PM
1

do you want to see my cock
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:18 PM
1

mhm, but it's normally easier for her since i haven't been told since birth that expressing sexual desire is wrong, nor has my sexuality been made into a commodity to be obtained.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:16 PM
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okay you're being extremely hostile and deliberately misinterpreting what i'm saying so i'm just going to leave it at this: social coercion and gender policing are harmful in all their forms, and its important that both sides give enthusiastic consent. for any person to have their sexual consent be made implicit deprives them of agency and personhood.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:11 PM
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i'm a dude, and i also want my partners to be my equals, which is why i make sure i have their consent before i have sex with them. it's not difficult to do.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:04 PM
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Being a 'real man' exerts just as much as an influence on men's behavior as being 'a lady' does on women's. this is true. unfortunately, most of the "ladylike" traits aren't very helpful/valued, nor do they encourage looking out for one's own interests, which is where a lot of this problem comes from.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:55 PM
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we are breaking down the barriers of your so fucking called Patriarchal society you're going to have a hard time doing that by trivializing the importance of getting positive consent just sayin and that means women have to stop living in one too dude this is not a choice women are given the opportunity to make, if they were, i'm pretty sure they'd be taking it. gendered social conditioning is extremely pervasive, its not something you can "choose" to ignore if you get shit-faced and consent then…
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:52 PM
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i think you're misinterpreting me. i'm not the one telling women to be passive, but i don't need to, because they're told that that's "ladylike" behavior" from day one. it would be awesome if women were instead taught to take control of their sexuality, and they weren't told to only indirectly express their opinions and preferences, and if they didn't have to fear violent reprisal for saying "no", but that's just not how shit is. for as long as women are conditioned to be passive by a patriarcha…
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:22 PM
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why is it not your responsibility to make sure that your sexual encounters aren't mutually enjoyable again? you may afford them agency, but until our culture does as well, and until the more indirect nos that women are taught to give are taken seriously, rather than seen as obstacles or, god forbid, LMR, that doesn't really do a whole lot of good
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:19 PM
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i've never posted in AMR on this or other accounts, and i'm not sure how SRS is trolling, but that's not really important. what really disturbs me is that you think arguing against assuming sexual consent by fiat, assuming the absence of a "no" is the same thing as a yes, makes me a troll. as long as women are told by our culture to be deferent and passive, as long as they're told that clearly expressing what you want makes you "pushy" or "bitchy", we as men just can't blithely absolve ourselves…
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:17 PM
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this a thousand times, we really need to move away from this idea of rape being a stranger in a dark alley. it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that your partner wants it as much as you do no matter who you are, don't just take the easy way out and absolve yourself by saying "oh, she would have said no if she was uncomfortable." you lose nothing by making absolutely sure that you have your partner's consent, i mean shit, if you think the phrase "is this alright" is a mood killer, think about …
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:09 PM
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what do you mean by taking some liberty i dont follow bruh
/r/MensRights20/08/11 05:40 AM
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If two people are enjoying themselves, why is it that anything beyond following the guy back to his room necessary? because going to a place with someone, letting them buy you dinner, smiling at them, or really anything besides explicitly saying "yes" is not sexual consent? is this that hard to grasp? "No" > body language women don't have to be afraid of being violently beaten or raped because of their body language, but turning down a man for sex can provoke a more violent response if, god forb…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 03:09 AM
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the irrational hoops that men need to jump through to not be rapists obtain enthusiastic consent, pay attention to body language, don't get them shitfaced in order to have sex, and make sure you aren't a threatening presence are irrational hoops now? i think it would have been a good idea to include that men can be victimized by abusive relationships too, but if someone doesn't do all of the things i mentioned, they probably don't have very much respect for their partners. these are not difficul…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 12:43 AM
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i really wish you had the same visible ire and judgment for rapists as you do for their victims. what do you mean by nice guy, btw
/r/MensRights18/08/11 01:54 AM
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lol you really need a citation or something for the non hyperlinked parts of that post
/r/MensRights15/08/11 10:01 AM
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i fucking love seeing women be harmed and victimized because it advances my political agenda!! its so great when that shit happens!
/r/MensRights14/08/11 06:32 PM
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i am the mod and i don't describe myself as a liberal. you're using a lot of buzzwords that make me uneasy though.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 06:06 PM
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i agree, it's like a fucking hive mind here.
/r/MensRights13/08/11 09:51 PM
1

lol where did you get that out of what i said? there are rape survivors who are women, now you're just grasping at straws
/r/MensRights12/08/11 09:47 PM
1

If you call it morally reprehensible to sexualize people who might be of legal age this is not what i'm calling reprehensible, what i find reprehensible is sexualizing someone who is unbeknownst to you, not of legal age, then upon finding out they are not of legal age, continuing to sexualize them, and whats more, steadfastly defending one's sovereign right to do so. There is nothing to "sneak through" since no law is being broken. i meant sneak through the ethical standard that "you should only…
/r/MensRights12/08/11 12:25 AM
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hey muforce, you're a pedophile
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:13 PM
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hahaha, im afriad you are mistaken, plebian. for you see, i am not a pedophile per se, as i am not attracted to prepubescent girls, but rather, i prefer to fantasize about raping girls who have already undergone onset of menarche! your bourgeois ethics are so pedestrian, feh! (adjusts fedora)
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:12 PM
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That is morally objectionable in my mind. But if the image looks like the person could be of legal age, then there is nothing wrong with it. could you please explain why you make this distinction, between sexualizing those who you think might be of legal age, and those who you don't think are? surely if you make that your ethical standard, there's plenty of room for wishful thinking to sneak plenty of shit through.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:09 PM
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is there a tumblr of, er, let's say, "people sexually attracted to those who cannot give consent" pedantically explaining the difference between pedohphilia and ephebophilia because i think there needs to be one
/r/MensRights11/08/11 11:06 PM
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I think that it is ok to sexually objectify anyone who looks attractive to you. There is no law against thoughts. define "sexually objectify" in the way you're using it in this sentence, because i think we think that word means different thinks. i'm not calling for thought police lol, but that doesn't mean i don't have an ethical problem. it's possible to believe that something ought not be prosecuted and still find it reprehensible, u know. Women sexually objectify men as much or more than men …
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:54 PM
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thats cause you know what it does dummy
/r/MensRights11/08/11 08:38 PM
1

future "that kid" base
/r/MensRights11/08/11 07:45 PM
2

and yet you think you know enough to claim that they're useless?
/r/MensRights11/08/11 07:44 PM
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but for real you are making a huge leap between people saying "it kinda grosses us out that girls ths young are being sexualized by society, this dude is obviously out of line for referring to her as 'fair game'" and saying "we want to put everyone who looked at her butt in a concentration camp". i dont see why you feel the need to defend people who say that dressing for warm weather means that it's okay to sexually objectify 14 year olds
/r/MensRights11/08/11 07:40 PM
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YOUR UNDER ARREST LOLOL
/r/MensRights11/08/11 07:37 PM
2

However I think it's far simpler then that. This phrase almost never sits well with me, i've found it very rare that complex problems have simple explanations. :) That said, passive, objectified, victimhood is definitely a problematic role, it probably dates back to the slow lurch away from being defined as property that women have undergone in the past however many centuries. That's why I prefer rape survivor over than rape victim, it gives more agency to the person being described. This doesn'…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 07:17 AM
1

let me see some of these links, i'm begging you
/r/MensRights11/08/11 12:03 AM
5

hm, not gonna get anything out of this conversation, done with you.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:52 PM
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condescending. fine, "all people presently living in a society are subject to social conditioning"
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:46 PM
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why does only one have to be the "real" pressure? there can be multiple factors. i can't speak to the experience of your friend, but i know that stay at home dads are generally frowned upon, if your friend was able to not be affected by it, that's a really great step forward. and i'm sorry you take such a dim view of people who are less disillusioned, i'd prefer to focus on ways to change those social pressures then to just brush off those who aren't privileged to have transcended them, but that…
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:43 PM
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this is an unfortunate way of looking at human potential imo. all people are subject to social conditioning, if everyone around you still believes in it, it can be difficult to break out.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:38 PM
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ironically, i'd wager that a lot of the dropouts are because the boys don't see an education as a means to fufilling their specific culture's gender roles, i bet most of those boys end up going straight to a job to provide for their families. in fact, i'd bet that a lot of boy's education problems have to do with how we construct masculinity, we definitely need to re-evaluate that. now, as for ways girls are conditioned away from the sciences, lets see. this sort of thing starts at a very young …
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:36 PM
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guess who's also an outlier? the fact that there are stay at home dads and female breadwinners doesn't mean that there isn't massive social pressure in the opposite direction.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:28 PM
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I never grew up thinking I couldn't do a job a man did, but I think it's harder for men to pursue jobs that are more traditionally done by women mainly for the social conditioning you've described. it's good that more and more boys and girls are seeing that there are more ways to live than the man taking home a salary to his stay at home wife, but i feel like most of the gains have been made primarily in the west, and even then, largely confined to upper middle class and above. these are definit…
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:24 PM
2

i agree, class conditioning is as every bit as real and discriminatory as gender discrimination is in my opinion. i don't know whether i'd make a black and white statement like "this is absolutely wrong", but it nonetheless is a social pattern that limits people's options based on where they were born or who they were born as, and i think that's something we should try to minimize.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:22 PM
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do you think that if the way in which people are socially conditioned is discriminatory, the end results of their choices might also be? in other words, if men are told that their value is tied to their ability to pull in an income, and that they can't be "pussies", do you think the fact that they end up more likely to choose jobs that carry great personal risk could still be seen as a form of discrimination? if woman are told from day 1 of their education that boys are just "naturally" better a…
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:00 PM
0

do you think the way people are socially conditioned affects their choices?
/r/MensRights10/08/11 10:54 PM
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this title is misleading. http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/images/rapechart.jpg Anthony D’Amato of Northwestern University School of Law says that the correlation between a newly-documented drastic decline in sexual violence the best this article says is that the correlation they found "casts doubt" on the claim that internet pornography has a causal connection with rape. it does not claim that the presence of internet porn decreases the incidence of rape, and the fact that all crimes underwent a mass…
/r/MensRights10/08/11 04:54 AM
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well, since you bring it up, there are actually a lot of feminists who oppose NOW, they were one of the forces that kept mid 20th century feminism limited to "white straight women's issues", and i haven't seen much better out of it. all of this is to demonstrate that feminism is not as homogenous, uniform, or monolithic as some posters here would lead you to think edit: and schwyzer is some blogger who teaches at a community college, i don't think he's exactly a paragon of the movement lol
/r/MensRights09/08/11 07:50 AM
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lol, you mean after his unsourced manifesto got upvoted on /r/mensrights? and if valenti is saying what you're claiming she's saying, then i disagree with her, i'm sure i could find plenty of my fellow third wavers who do the same, but im not clicking through that report-her whatever website you linked through to find out. im glad you have your suspicions, if i thought it would be worth my time attempting to allay them in you, i would, but something tells me you came to your conclusion, then fou…
/r/MensRights08/08/11 10:45 PM
-1

third wave feminism is not an agent capable of "choosing" someone to speak for them. i'm about to do what you're doing noted MRA Anders Brevik claims X, dear MRAs, how do you expect us to take you seriously when you let that bigot shoot norweigan teens for you?
/r/MensRights08/08/11 10:21 PM
0

lol what? i can't tell if you're being serious right now, but you'd be hard pressed to find a feminist who argues that women are weak and in need of protection, i mean shit the entire third wave was about refuting that claim. and men can say they're sterile or that they had a vasectomy right now, your bizzaro world feminists are pretty shitty strategists huh?
/r/MensRights08/08/11 06:29 PM
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well sure, none of these attempt to conclusively prove that men will not take a birth control pill, that wouldn't be possible, that's why i said the data suggests, not the data proves. the trojan example demonstrates that pharma is aware of women taking primary responsibility, and gives an insight into church&dwight's marketing strategy. the fact that women are more likely to have that elective surgery than men are plays into it. none of this proves men wouldn't take a pill if offered, and it do…
/r/MensRights08/08/11 06:18 PM
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i'm not sure i'd agree, i feel like it happens a lot less often than you'd assume by reading /r/mensrights, which hosts a disproportionate number of people in that situation. besides, i know at least one feminist who thinks that birth control ought to be made more available for men, and not thought of as the woman's sole obligation, namely me, and im sure there are plenty of others, opposition to male birth control isn't exactly a plank of the movement. but at least you aren't claiming that femi…
/r/MensRights08/08/11 06:11 PM
-1

where? i accused manthoughts of poisoning the well, only he is responsible for his actions.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 06:05 PM
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the data suggests that women presently take primary responsiblity for birth control, which means unless there's an indication of widespread demand, something i havent seen outside of mra blogs, marketing a birth control method to men isn't financially viable. do you have any data on how many men said they would use hormonal birth control if available?
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:57 PM
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well, i'm assuming that the average person will be mature enough not to abstract one individual's actions to the entire movement they identify as part of, but hey thats just me, ive overestimated reddit's maturity before for sure.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:56 PM
2

feh, WHAT evidence, i xed out as soon as i got the inkling the author thinks women are people
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:37 PM
2

exactly why would this be a feminist goal? do you actually think the feminist movement is all about letting women "trap" men with pregnancies or shit like that?
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:35 PM
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say what? i'm a third waver and ive never heard of her until now, when i think third wave i think judith butler, naomi wolf. you're trying to poison the well with one blogger, you're taking part in the same generalizing you accuse feminists of doing about men.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:31 PM
1

everyone who responded to this comment besides me didnt even read the article
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:22 PM
0

lol i dont think ive ever been talked down to by someone who unironically quotes wikipedia as if it were a legal dictionary. please explain to me how a payment you owe another person because of a legal settlement is not a financial need, are tort damages also "involuntary servitude"? and again like 80% of your post is arguing against the child support system as implemented in the united states which has absolutely nothing to do with what i'm criticizing. the connotations you are knowingly invoki…
/r/MensRights07/08/11 06:59 AM
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replace slavery with involuntary servitude then, its only marginally less ridiculous. involuntary servitude is when you are forced to do particular labor, not when you have to work to pay off a financial obligation you have. there are critiques to be made of the child support system no doubt, men (black men especially) are often kept in prison because they are unable to pay their debts, while being in prison precludes them from earning the income needed to do this, but calling it involuntary ser…
/r/MensRights07/08/11 03:57 AM
0

so to be clear, you are legitimately arguing that child support payments constitute slavery? this is a belief which you actually hold that you are attempting to convince me of?
/r/MensRights06/08/11 09:33 PM
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explain to me how a financial obligation equates to involuntary servitude again? are capital loans and purchases also unconstitutional?
/r/MensRights06/08/11 08:09 PM
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maybe there's a middle ground between making these men and women pay what they owe and reverting to an 1800s criminal code? jesus i thought MRAs were just against abuse of the child support system, not the entire concept of it.
/r/MensRights06/08/11 06:45 PM
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i have some good news for you...
/r/MensRights05/08/11 01:45 AM
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internet
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:49 PM
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i intend to use it to promote misandry, keep selective service male only, make false rape accusations, and encourage wives to leave their husbands and take their life savings in child support, or my name isn't barack obama.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:34 PM
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i'm not female, i'm barack obama dummy
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:29 PM
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i feel so loved <3 btw i am not lorelai turns out there is more than one person on earth who does not share this subreddits worldview, horror upon horrors :o stop trying to influence reddits you don't post in
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:24 PM
2

aint it a bitch when that happens huh
/r/MensRights04/08/11 06:32 PM
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its also possible that you're not very good at using google http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/shelter.cgi?shelter=11082 http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/shelter.cgi?shelter=10708 http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/shelter.cgi?shelter=8437 http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/shelter.cgi?shelter=10719 http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/shelter.cgi?shelter=11060 thats just 5 in my area
/r/MensRights04/08/11 08:42 AM
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i too advocate sexual violence against people who write things i disagree with
/r/MensRights01/08/11 12:35 AM
2

yes dude, more people being injured in their work place is a bad thing. just because they're women doesn't make their injuries any less debilitating.
/r/MensRights30/07/11 12:09 AM
1

widespread death and oppression outweigh a few legal problems in an otherwise liveable environment. i agree with you, but this image also says nothing about the fukushima disaster, the occupation of iraq, climate change, or genocide. the existence of greater problems, even within the same sphere, are no reason to protest activism against smaller problems, they're reason to take solving these bigger problems into your own hands. do you think that the issues outlined in the OP's image are problems…
/r/MensRights27/07/11 09:34 PM
0

i think this response is meant for a different post?
/r/MensRights27/07/11 09:20 PM
0

lol, i actually stick to ethically made pornography when i use it because i dont like the industry, and i want to have sex with women i'm attracted to. attraction is absolutely NOT the same thing as objectification, attraction is the desire to have a MUTUALLY gratifying sexual encounter WITH another person, objectification is "i want to fuck that".
/r/MensRights27/07/11 09:11 PM
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lol, what? like i said, if i say "that woman has black hair", does it mean i'm claiming "there are no men with black hair"?
/r/MensRights27/07/11 09:09 PM
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did i or this image deny any of thos ethings? if i say that "that woman has black hair", am i implying that only women have black hair? there's this reflexive need radfems and mras feel to deny that ANY oppression happens to the other group, its a bit to battle of the sexes for my tastes. i don't do any of those things, so i know that this image is not meant to apply to me. i also know many men who do, and they're who this is talking about.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 08:48 PM
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lol, not everything bad that happens to women is men's fault, but those are three examples of choices that individual men make every day that harm women. jesus, it doesn't hurt men's issues to point out that women are pretty fucking oppressed too.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 06:30 PM
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like the phrase figuratively trashy, agree with everything teefs has said except change the last sentence to be less ableist
/r/MensRights27/07/11 08:01 AM
0

lol okay forums user porkrocket i look forward to being spanked by yo for my terrible political views Well it's easy for me: animals don't have rights. Eat 'em n' beat 'em. Kill yourself. Put a loaded gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. my favorite meme of all time NEVER GETS OLD Yet again, I'M RIGHT. YOU'RE WRONG. I think you should kill yourself because of a multitude of things, not just the copyright infringement. It's based on my judgment of you as a terrible, worthless person. So please…
/r/MensRights26/07/11 04:31 AM
1

you are the problem, domestic violence is a serious problem that ruins lives, joking about it doesn't offend me as much as earnestly promoting it, but it's pretty damn close
/r/MensRights25/07/11 10:44 PM
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haha i dig the alliteration. and idk if she hates them so much as buys into concepts of gender that constrain what men can and cant do, i doubt shes doin it just to fuck with them
/r/MensRights25/07/11 05:26 AM
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she's emasculating men for not living up to her personal expectations, that's my objection.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 05:32 PM
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dude i dont give a shit what you think about the blog, feminizing men for not fitting exactly into their prescribed gender roles is a mens rights issue.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 07:14 AM
0

so, if it turns out that this woman was a victim of persistent physical/mental/emotional abuse, i take it you'll be the at the front of the crowd protesting her imprisonment? after all we all need to learn to take a little joy in grotesque violence. how old are you btw?
/r/MensRights20/07/11 09:18 PM
1

as long as comments like these are not downvoted into the ground, /mensrights will not be taken seriously by anyone outside the bubble it's wrong to mutilate a person's genitals, stop gendering it. where did you get that i hate myself from that lol. asking for her genitals to be mutilated is wrong in my opinion, if you disagree, then that's your right, but it also makes me take your outrage at her crimes less seriously
/r/MensRights20/07/11 06:09 PM
1

it's wrong to mutilate a person's genitals, stop gendering it.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 06:03 PM
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as long as comments like these are not downvoted into the ground, /mensrights will not be taken seriously by anyone outside the bubble
/r/MensRights20/07/11 05:38 PM
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dude if you have a legitimate fear of your SO of either sex doing violence towards you, you need to get the fuck out of that relationship. if this is advice you follow im not sure whether i feel worse for you or your gf
/r/MensRights20/07/11 05:35 PM
1

change.org generally only has petitions for progressive causes, the death penalty for anyone probably doesn't fall under that
/r/MensRights20/07/11 05:32 PM
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im always surprised when some posters here are enthusiastic/nonchalant about horrific violence being done to women that they (rightly) decry so vehemently when its done to men.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 05:30 PM
1

slacktivism
/r/MensRights20/07/11 04:25 AM
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what overreaction, she mentioned in her video that it made her uncomfortable and advised guys not to do that. i cant speak for the entire goddamn internet, but as far as her reaction to it, i'm not sure it was particularly out of line
/r/MensRights19/07/11 09:37 PM
1

the post above you lol
/r/MensRights18/07/11 11:33 PM
1

FtM people are men, MtF people used to be, so either way, trans rights are related to the ability men in society are given to control their own gender identity. Trans rights are likewise important to feminists for the same reason (besides the faab buttheads that is)
/r/MensRights18/07/11 11:28 PM
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you don't "trust" an assumption you make about someone, you assume it. if someone demonstrates an assumption you made about them to be untrue, that's not a violation of your trust, that's you being incorrect.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 11:23 PM
2

Rule of thumb: if it's important enough for you to hide it, it's probably important enough for me to know it; otherwise why would you want to hide such a big and important thing for you from me? I don't know anything about your personal medical history, reddit user "selfsufficientnigga"! Why are you hiding your medical history from me??? edit: upon reading some later comments by you in the thread, it seems you're talking about, when specifically asked "are you cisgendered" a transgendered person…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:55 PM
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dude, i think its because you repeatedly made ideological edits to an article over reversion, that's bad wiki ettiquite no matter what the page says.
/r/MensRights16/07/11 06:53 PM
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wtf, how can they say that word is used by right wing ideologues? (cites a right wing ideologue)
/r/MensRights16/07/11 06:51 PM
1

this has nothing to do with what i asked. why do you think that emasculating people you disagree with is something a men's rights advocate who wishes to be taken seriously should do?
/r/MensRights14/07/11 06:07 AM
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why do you think emasculating people you disagree with is a valid tactic of argument, and in no way counter to mens rights?
/r/MensRights14/07/11 01:31 AM
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did elevator chick actually call the dude a rapist? i was under the impression that she just mentioned in a video that it made her uncomfortable and that it was rude to ask someone who just was talking about how worn out she was to get coffee in your room, which is an obvious euphemism. and your second point is true, men and women are both abused by gender roles, but blaming "feminists" for that is sort of absurd, especially since feminists like myself are so explicitly opposed to traditional no…
/r/MensRights10/07/11 11:30 PM
2

somebody doesn't understand the concept of examples
/r/MensRights10/07/11 11:16 PM
1

Women are also given some privileges, I'd argue that they're often a form of benevolent sexism, i.e. men get fucked over in family court because of the perception that women are "naturally inclined" to be nurturers, which is something a lot of feminists are unhappy about, myself included. This doesn't mean that male privileges don't also exist in other areas, bringing up female privilege as if it negates its analog is absurd oppression olympics scorekeeping. for shame, bro
/r/MensRights10/07/11 11:15 PM
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By being male, and usually stronger, we are coercing women into have sex with us? That isn't misandrist at all. this is not what i said, i am not coercing or attempting to coerce anyone. that doesn't mean that a woman will not feel coerced. So explicit consent is only needed for first-time partners? no, but in a relationship with someone you are comfortable with and know well, theres a degree of implied consent. consent is needed for ALL sexual encounters, i find i feel better about obtaining it…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 10:43 PM
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Coercion, by definition, implies something malicious. However, your scenario doesn't make sense. How does one get coerced and THEN regret it afterwards. More accurately, it is possible for someone to not get coerced or pressured into having a sexual encounter and yet later regret it. Understand? Coercion isn't necessarily malicious, in the scenario I described, simply by being male and stronger, and by her not knowing I'm not that shitty type of guy, there's some implied coercion. That's why I m…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 10:07 PM
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I'm not sure you understand, if a man or a woman was coerced into a sexual encounter that they later regret, then they have been sexually assaulted. For example, let us say that the women's arm was twisted in order to get her into bed, and she performs a sex act without verbally acting against it nor actually making any move away from the situation. Answering yes to this question means that a man's misinterpretation that the woman wanted to be man-handled in some way to get her turned on, and th…
/r/MensRights09/07/11 09:26 PM
1

i dont know if thats relevant, youd be hard pressed to find a gay man who'd describe a government that would kill him for who he loves as "not that crazy", and if you think these two issues are even close to being on the same level of importance idk what to tell ya
/r/MensRights09/07/11 03:59 AM
1

focusing on female prison rape is a problem and a symptom.
/r/MensRights09/07/11 02:25 AM
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you're playing oppression olympics, the fact that more male prisoners are raped does not mean that female prisoners don't deserve justice, attention, or compassion. the campaign included a man and a woman, are you actually angry with this campaign for acknowledging that instutionalized sexual violence affects both sexes?
/r/MensRights09/07/11 01:16 AM
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I am in the 16-35 age bracket you coulda just said 16 bro, your views on women say that more than a number ever could. in my experience, women initiate about as much as men, they just do so in different ways. just because you haven't been approached doesn't mean it doesn't happen extremely often. you have an extremely gendered outlook on this whole situation and i think its getting in the way of your understanding.
/r/MensRights08/07/11 11:54 PM
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the state murders people for being homosexual, you single issue fuck
/r/MensRights08/07/11 11:48 PM
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I hope this post isn't intended to attack this ad campaign. I've seen these posters tons of times, there's another with a man with a man. Drop the ideology, JDI does a lot of good work for men and women, acknowledging female inmate rape, which is also an extremely serious problem doesn't diminish the experiences of male survivors.
/r/MensRights08/07/11 11:02 PM
3

no i am, look at my username you goob
/r/MensRights07/07/11 04:15 AM
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I'm sorry, but at first glance you seem like you're looking for an argument here, and I doubt either of us will be able to convince the other to switch movements. I'd rather spend my time with people who are interested in learning. However, if I'm mistaken... I do not speak for all feminists, and I certainly don't speak for all women, my penis makes that difficult. My "version" of feminism is mine and mine alone, and there are probably some significant differences between my feminism and marcott…
/r/MensRights07/07/11 04:02 AM
1

Well the sex wars happened during the 2nd wave too, but I'm not sure they can't coexist, after all, they currently coexist under the banner of feminism. Third wave is meant to be inclusive of a diverse array of perspectives, so by nature of that it's going to be less concretely defined.
/r/MensRights07/07/11 03:43 AM
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mhm, glad to help. i feel like gender activists on either side tend to overestimate the nutjobs on the other side, you see a lot more of the inflammatory shit cause this is the internet, but i can say i have never (knowingly) met a feminist who hates men irl, and i've spoken to many. haven't encountered mras except online, but i imagine that most of the ones who get on a real misogynist joint on here aren't really serious about equality in the first place
/r/MensRights06/07/11 10:49 PM
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well, it's not like i have a third wave membership card, idk how easy it is to categorize people besides writers who have specifically staked a claim to a wave. in fact, you could argue that most /mensrights posters are first wave feminists, since they believe in equality of sexes before the law, and suffrage for both men and women. all three of the waves have their fair share of nutjobs, solanas was a second waver, but there are plenty of thirders who agree with her (although i'd argue that the…
/r/MensRights06/07/11 10:39 PM
0

that's nice. nobody's keeping score. i'd personally prefer that too, since a "whore" isn't really deserving of scorn in the first place.
/r/MensRights06/07/11 10:22 PM
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im one of the few feminists who frequents this subreddit so my answer should probably be taken more seriously than others here. so, without being too specific, because there's some disagreements among feminists on the specific boundaries, there's plenty of variation both within and between the three waves, and there are no essential characteristics of a member of any of the waves... first wave: think the suffragette movement, that was the big one, but the main goals were eradicating specific, wr…
/r/MensRights06/07/11 10:11 PM
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you shouldn't be drawing an equivalency between having/enjoying sex and committing a violent crime. women have the right not to be considered whores because they should be allowed to be sexual without having that negative label slapped on them. of course it goes without saying that men should not be automatically considered rapists, but i dont like the (implied) equivalence there
/r/MensRights06/07/11 09:57 PM
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f*uck other men in the a$$ how old are you be honest
/r/MensRights06/07/11 09:37 PM
2

if the mra wants to be ever be taken seriously (and there's definitely some legit grievances there) it would do best to divorce themselves from outright bigots like this guy faster than his ex wife did.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 09:40 PM
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lol no dude is just trying to win an argument through emasculation.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 09:29 PM
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eat my pussy then
/r/MensRights05/07/11 04:15 PM
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blow me
/r/MensRights05/07/11 03:59 PM
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want to see my dick, nerd? edit: also it's sexist against men and women to claim that only one could say certain things. i get that youre a misogynist but your logic is backwards, hating women doesn't mean that EVERYONE you dont like is female
/r/MensRights05/07/11 03:15 PM
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this, plus certain items from his post history, bingo
/r/MensRights05/07/11 02:59 PM
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Neither you nor your wife seem mature enough to handle parenthood at this time in your lives, you probably should have gotten to know her before rushing to marriage, but nobody's perfect. Get a clearer idea in your head of what your problems with this marriage are, sit her down and discuss them with her like you're both adults, and if you can't reach a common ground, call your lawyer.
/r/MensRights05/07/11 12:58 PM
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lol are you seriously comparing gloria allred to roman polanski?
/r/MensRights04/07/11 08:57 AM
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society's core unit is the family, not the nuclear family, it's not fair to deny the experiences of many children in single parent or same sex households. do you consider this an equal attack on femininity?
/r/MensRights03/07/11 07:18 PM
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/mensrights is an anti-racist subreddit lolol
/r/MensRights02/07/11 12:07 PM
2

/\ has not been raped
/r/MensRights02/07/11 12:57 AM
1

i'm sure you could apply similar levels of analysis to rapists. just because you're female bodied doesn't mean you can't also be a misogynist.
/r/MensRights29/06/11 01:32 AM
1

explain to me how saying that is different from the "all men are potential rapists" thing you kids hate so much?
/r/MensRights28/06/11 10:29 PM
0

The point is, men experience sexism, mistreatment, and discrimination in many places in society (to name just a few examples, the draft, female genital mutilation versus circumcision, divorce proceedings, false rape allegations, dangerous working environments, depression and suicide, falling education rates, under-reported rape and domestic violence, etc.). Just as men have an advantage (or privilege) over women in society in many respects, the reverse is also true. That’s the point of this blog…
/r/MensRights21/06/11 06:36 PM
1

so, to be clear, you do agree with ms shipman that a group of all white men are not going to reach the best decision? and, i'm not sure there's been no uproar, even if it's mostly from jackasses like brietbart. but again, you agree with me that there really shouldn't be any denouncement of this claim right?
/r/MensRights21/06/11 06:15 PM
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what's wrong with this statement? in general, the more diversity of opinion perspective and experience that goes into a decision the more factors it can account for and the better it would be. is "a group of all women are not going to reach the best decision" sexist against women?
/r/MensRights14/06/11 02:56 AM
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see i'm a male feminist and i didnt see that conflation at all, i actually really liked that this article dealt with men's issues without all of the baggage that comes with MRA type stuff.
/r/MensRights11/06/11 03:16 AM
5

are you saying this ironically because it is pretty much objectively true that gendered social conditioning has a role in how both women and men conduct themselves in the workplace
/r/MensRights10/06/11 12:10 AM
3

lol, reading this really reminds me of the PUA/seduction community. this 20th century pseudo-rationalist "biotruth" approach to gender reproduction and relationships really needs to go, its the cause for 90% of what MRAs have beefs with, and 90% of what i as a male feminist have a beef with
/r/MensRights06/06/11 06:01 AM
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i remember you from ll, apparently if you think /r/mensrights has anything resembling reasonable discussion you haven't improved much :\
/r/MensRights04/06/11 02:06 AM
2

For the same reason filing a false police report about a burglary isn't a property crime?
/r/MensRights02/06/11 03:54 AM
-1

well damn bro i think yr jumpin to a couple conclusions here. cheating doesnt make you a rapist, but it does indicate a) dishonesty, which is relevant if its he said she said, and b) a lack of respect for sexual partners. neither of these make him a rapist, of course, but they're relevant details, which is all you can really go on in a case like this w/o witnesses. thank you for assuming that because i don't reflexively assume that this woman is lying that i am in favor of every single aspect of…
/r/MensRights31/05/11 01:15 PM
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kid where did i say he was guilty of rape? i'm just saying that if he is, that cutting off his dick in self-defense was not that bad a thing to do, surely you dont disagree
/r/MensRights31/05/11 01:04 PM
-2

sounds like you're projecting a little bro
/r/MensRights31/05/11 11:47 AM
0

i'm not choosing to believe either, i'm just saying that the dude has a record of dishonesty, demonstrated by having an affair, and that casts doubt on his word, if the woman is telling the truth, then cutting off his dick isn't a strike at all, it's self defense, but since there's no way of knowing the motive, you cant take it into account
/r/MensRights31/05/11 10:32 AM
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if they're trying to rape you, it isn't lol, thats the point
/r/MensRights31/05/11 10:17 AM
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i mean, dude has already demonstrated dishonesty by having sexual contact, consensual or not. thats a strike against him as far as im concerned, with none to the woman. not saying that means he absolutely did it, but i am more inclined to believe her than i am him, and i'm not sure why anyone would hold a different position besides a reflexive doubt of rape victims, oh, sorry, "accusers".
/r/MensRights31/05/11 03:31 AM
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i am a male and i would probably be unable to carry a 200 pound man plus gear on my back for an extended time, i'm sure there exists at least one woman who could. i guess i'd be the better fit for the team though, because of my penis.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 02:52 AM
1

ctrl f'ed for "the silly dames was all on the rag!", no results
/r/MensRights31/05/11 02:51 AM
-7

lol you are really bad at psychology you need more inputs than just applying your own jaded beliefs and stereotypes to 51% of the species
/r/MensRights31/05/11 02:45 AM
-1

...because nobody who posts in mensrights ever gets laid
/r/MensRights25/03/11 10:53 PM
3

honestly as a feminist i object pretty strongly to her promotion of such rigid gender roles (cue downvotes for feminist being in a sentence without the word "cunts" next to it)
/r/MensRights23/02/11 12:00 AM
2

That and that it's an aggressive reassertion of undeserved privilege
/r/MensRights07/02/11 11:48 PM
1

you sort of missed the mostly female subreddit universally excoriating her, kinda messes up the mensrights narrative huh?
/r/MensRights11/01/11 04:00 PM
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