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Both men and women should be subject to the selective service, or nobody should be subject to selective service.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 11:20 PM
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We should change this "bend over and take it" culture. Completely agree.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 03:37 PM
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What?? This is completely moronic. If they want so seriously for women to be considered for combat arms, this will only hurt them and hurt everyone else around them. Not good. The current AR 670-1 doesn't need to be changed unless it's something relating to function that increases the lethality of our military. :/ Are they trying to demoralize our military? Oh, right -- Biden administration...basically a continuation of the Obama administration. Lovely.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 03:36 PM
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Ahh this is for the UK. Ouch :( Yeah I don't know much about trucking other than it's not for the feint of heart. And yeah, hell, the licenses for commercial trucking in the US take long enough to get so I can see how people are afraid of losing time and money.
/r/MensRights06/06/17 09:30 AM
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Building a bench for them to step on results in only one of them being able to see over the fence BUT if we built one bench a bit taller then both could see over the fence?? Soooo women should get handouts and free stuff? I mean, at some level I kinda get it, but no. I was talking to my boyfriend the other night about this actually and we were both pretty much in agreement that the "male privilege" argument is a cop-out and, worse, it doesn't even make sense when you consider that men have just …
/r/MensRights06/06/17 09:04 AM
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I always put it back in there when I get a new phone along with a reminder to actually call my parents :P It only doesn't show up when I have my phone or google in another language though.
/r/MensRights06/06/17 08:06 AM
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It might depend on the area though, 'cause West Virginia and Kentucky seem to be where a lot of the miners are. Of course I don't know how much they do or don't need truckers though. Or is there a national shortage of truckers? O_o
/r/MensRights06/06/17 08:02 AM
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If it is any redeeming effort (or even just a "WTF" to Jessie's comment), I help my coworkers haul huge servers and server racks, threading cat5 and coax through conduit in ceilings, and help with new office construction and I don't expect to get special treatment or "higher pay" for stuff that just needs to get done. Hell, I ended the day several times this week smelling of burnt teflon and plaster but at least I learned how to wire a building for a network we could use. In startup companies, p…
/r/MensRights06/06/17 08:00 AM
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Hey, you leave man-spreading out of this! Haha (Why is that considered terminology, or even a word, again?) Seriously though, wow, she really makes terrible analogies.
/r/MensRights06/06/17 07:49 AM
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I read it the first time, but the reason I thought it was disturbing was that her dad had been the one abusing her yet she accused her dad's friend. I can almost understand why, but the fact it happened that way and the social dynamics involved are things I find a bit disturbing and just plain sad.
/r/MensRights19/12/16 08:02 PM
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Okay, whatever you say.
/r/MensRights19/12/16 04:04 AM
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This is fucked up, but look at the comments now. It looks like people (possibly redditers? I don't know) are laying in on her in the comments section now. Still, the fact that so many people were acting apologetic for this girl is disturbing.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 02:46 PM
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That's appalling. I'm sorry that happened to you :( I don't know if this makes me an asshole but I think this kind of behavior is a result of the dying family unit. Everyone needs a good mother and father, and you are indeed not only a product of your genetics but also of your environment. When I become a mother, I'm raising my kids right and my daughter will learn human decency and be considerate of others so she will never think to lie about something so serious. I think this whole politically…
/r/MensRights18/12/16 02:37 PM
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Woo! Rock on, I'm glad Camile Paglia and Karen Straughan are on there! Isn't Karen Straughan "girlwriteswhat" on youtube? If so, she's I think more MRA/Feminist-critic. I'd go for either Doug Stanhope (guy is hilarious and awesome) or Camile Paglia :) As for leanings, I think Camile is kinda both? She's an "individualist feminist" (I.e. not one of the ones with tyrant claws) and I'm not sure what Stanhope calls himself, but I know both Camile and Doug are fairly libertarian and relentlessly anno…
/r/MensRights17/06/16 04:31 AM
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So if a 14 yr old girl cannot consent to sex (reasonably) how the hell can a 14 yr old boy? Christo this makes my heart hurt. Kinda reminds me of Letourneau back in the day and how it seemed like people were almost cheering them on because "he got lucky" or somemthing.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 04:50 AM
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Good stuff.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 03:54 AM
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My personal favorite is anscombes quartet: Anscombe's Quartet
/r/MensRights28/05/15 05:58 PM
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There are still modern men out there who appreciate good Scotch, so things can't be too bad :P
/r/TheRedPill17/04/15 03:18 PM
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I dunno, I just drink 'cause I need the void. I need to escape my past and my surroundings. Not everything has to do with sex really, people are complicated regardless of gender. I almost find this post insulting. In a way, whether you intend to or not, you dismiss every alcoholic's pain. AA has taught me so much yet I blew it off for a time. We don't drink to screw men over, we have other problems that sometimes don't involve men at all, as hard as that may be to believe. My guy friends who are…
/r/MensRights18/02/15 05:49 PM
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Geez, you'd think if an institution of higher learning and academic exploration was going to make a PSA graphic, they'd at least peer review it to make sure it was free of certain logical inconsistencies. You'd also think it shouldn't be so easy to so thoroughly limit daily human interaction. So apparently if I had a wife or a girlfriend, anything involving money would just be avoided at all costs (no pun intended) because I wouldn't be allowed to give her money or take money? I come to that con…
/r/MensRights06/10/14 04:34 PM
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Yeah, that's true. It used to be that rape was usually pushed under rug, and even blame was put on the victim, but now something like that can be used against someone :/ I still know and know of tons of girls who just never tell anyone and suffer in silence, but I also realize they can make someone's life a living hell even if the accused didn't do anything. And it goes without saying that that's just fucked up.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 11:39 PM
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You only focused on one point of my comment really. But I know a lot of women, some even personally, who have been denied sex - oh yes, it happens. Some were hurt some were not, but I've known MANY more men who got visibly upset when turned down. Or perhaps I'm just projecting my persona on the world, I dunno. I just can't imagine being hurt if someone I barely even know turns me down for something like sex. -shrug- but this is assuming it is casual sex and nothing more.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:33 AM
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But that's also incorrect. In Virginia, I don't have that power. You are making blanket statements with little to no substance because I don't know where I actually have power other than family court. And to me, I can't destroy you because I just can't do certain things to people. (-->Injustice complex over here<--)
/r/MensRights14/08/14 03:28 AM
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I don't walk around with that power. Believe it or not, there are people in this country who still don't really think women are complete human beings, and it actually makes life not so great after you hit puberty and realize this :( So don't make statements that apply to "every woman in the US", because the fact is, you can't say what every woman feels or experiences.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 03:22 PM
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This tragedy means something to people already, it doesn't need your fucking substance.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 02:55 PM
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I get what you are saying and I mostly agree, but you might be talking to a huge brick wall here with this message. The hypocrisy is hilarious though, because the MRM was sooooo unbelievably angry when "the feminists used Elliot Rodger for their political agenda."
/r/MensRights13/08/14 02:51 PM
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Everyone brigades everyone here, it's not just "the enemy" who is doing it. No one really holds any kind of moral high ground.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 02:34 PM
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Everyone here just assumes it's the wives who were taking it. -.-' But to be fair, it wouldn't come as any surprise to find out they were =/
/r/MensRights13/08/14 02:30 PM
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he had 75 million to his name apparently - it doesn't take 75 million to raise two children... jesus christ, if it was indeed his exes who were getting the money, how much of his money was going to them and how do they sleep at night!? i do think this is in slightly poor taste though =/ family court is fucked up, yes, but his shouldn't be used as an excuse to talk about it when we were already talking about it before.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 02:28 PM
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I think this person might have it backwards. Heh, I always thought women attempted suicide more but men's suicide rates were higher because of the methods by which they carried out the act were usually successful ones (e.g. gun, hanging vs. overdose)
/r/MensRights13/08/14 01:45 PM
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I always knew men to get frustrated, and even sometimes "pissed off", when women deny them sex. Are the tables really being turned there? I have my doubts that women generally get angry when denied sex O_o' I know some who do, but they have been few and far between. Reading this was odd for me, lol Their definition for "survivor" really makes me cringe and makes me think we as human beings have become weak -.-' It also really irks me that they go straight to using "his" and "him" instead of "the…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 01:27 PM
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"Typical female [...]" Really? How is it that you are upset that one person pegged you for having the "typical male [...]" persona when you clearly generalize women's behavior as well? This is not really a men's rights issue. This is a social criticism of how the older generation treats us "young hooligans." It is particularly one where you are are actively seeking out opportunities to get angry or offended, which is something that is unhealthy and will drive you insane if you're not careful. I …
/r/MensRights12/08/14 03:03 PM
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You give me hope for our species' well-being.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 07:18 PM
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Women would look at a man who had thousands of women in the same fashion. "Someone who couldn't commit" I grew up in a world where women weren't entitled to shit and they couldn't win no matter what they did, and now I am in one where it's almost the opposite sometimes. It's weird.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 04:07 PM
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Just because women are "empowered" to explore their sexuality now (actually in many places we still aren't, lest we want to be written off as the "whore" or be given the tramp stamp) doesn't mean it's a good idea to sleep with a thousand men and pull the misogyny card when someone calls us on our clearly stated lack of commitment. I'm all for folks turning the "walk of shame" into the "walk of pride" , but if I were like that which you just described, I would have to admit it doesn't mean I shou…
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 04:04 PM
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Signed! Stuff like this happened in preschool all the time when I was a kid and the kid was just sent to the office or put in time out and asked why they did it....you know...because talking to the kid might help both parties understand the behavior. Hell, I got in trouble for using the word "penis" in kindergarten... But I was never labeled for "sexual misconduct". What crap!
/r/MensRights14/07/14 12:44 AM
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Lawyer up my friend! Also, if you have any in-writing or text correspondence from that night, save it and make copies.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 09:57 PM
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Was reading his other comics and he does sound sweet :3
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:59 PM
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Ugh, man I'm sorry :/ I kinda understand this situation since I've been in a really rough and, quite candidly, emotionally abusive relationship (my ex boyfriend) and I had all kinds of nasty physical side effects from the mental stress. No false accusations of rape though - girls unfortunately have the upper hand where they shouldn't in that department. But I can understand the resentment, anger, betrayal you must have felt. All sorts of things were running around in my head after the two years …
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:49 AM
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I was smiling until the last panel. It's bittersweet really. 'Cause it implies that guys don't screw things up like some people think they will (and that dads are actually awesome) but then for the more defensive side of me it says "everybody always has fun without girls in the picture" frown Hopefully the latter was not part of the message. This was kinda adorable though :3
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:17 AM
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"However after discovering the red pill and realizing my unconscious self is a jerk" ...... you are not unconsciously a jerk by virtue of your gender. though i could be misinterpreting this. do you mean your unconscious self may have been a jerk or are you implying something more collective? maybe i'm just being defensive because i can't stand it when people say things like "women are bitches" in the same context that "all men are good" =/ (mostly because if anything, i'm a bit of a push over so…
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/14 01:25 AM
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Yep, that is it! Thanks! Not sure why the link broke. :/
/r/MensRights22/06/14 01:46 AM
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So I looked into it, and there is reason believe this all this #EndFathersDay shit is not genuine (the intention mainly being to outrage the masses enough to provoke a response of hating feminism). Shame on people for trying to destroy something in such a petty way. This is disgusting. Even more so if it is fake.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:29 PM
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Jesus christo, Herzog is notorious for being a disrespectful bitch who never got over her daddy issues. 99.9997% of her tweets disgust and embarrass me.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:05 PM
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Yes, but Saudi Arabia is not the US. In Saudi, a woman can get massacred for even thinking about wanting to go out without supervision.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:52 PM
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I think they kinda are. There is a lot of push in congress right now to let women in combat roles across the board. And I'm quite pleased that this time they are proposing no lowered physical standards.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:50 PM
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I think it's got something to do with preferred method and state of mind when it happens. I read somewhere that a lot more male suicides happen successfully when they had been drinking. That may be limited to a certain demographic of men though, I'm not sure. Women typically attempt suicide by overdosing, for which the success rate is naturally going to be lower given there is more of a possibility to be discovered and sent to the hospital in time to save them. Either way it's sad :/ We need the…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:24 AM
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Yeah Israel is a good example! But lol They are in a deli?
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:15 AM
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Okay this has me interested in how DoD comes up with its numbers. You're absolutely right, your samples can definitely skew your numbers. Looking at that graph for gender death distribution, I assume they just make the ratio from the total number of deaths per MOS and then get the percentage from using x/total women and y/total men that account for [total] combat deaths.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 02:10 AM
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I definitely know about that period where the women had to take the jobs because most of the men were over seas. But yes, they kinda had little choice.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:57 AM
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I can definitely appreciate that. I guess it all depends on what you want to do that affects your definition of privilege. (It is a human tendency to always want what you don't have, heh) It'll be interesting to see how these upcoming "women in combat" bills in congress are going to turn out. Either it's going to be completely liberating and set the ground for fairness, or it's going to be a rather rude awakening to a lot of people. I'm not yet sure which one is going to be the case.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:07 PM
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To me, the "patriarchy" kinda doesn't exist and there are other facets of feminist theory that make no sense to me whatsoever...but I do want to be treated like a capable, complete human being while realizing men and women have their separate strengths? I guess that makes me an egalitarian? Anywho, you make a good point. Many who claim men are the oppressors often neglect the fact that men carried all the responsibility with whatever power they had. I guess the phrases "be careful what you wish …
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:57 PM
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Well, for a long time they were conditioned to think they couldn't do those heavier/dirtier jobs, so I would imagine it's going to take quite some time for that to actually (noticeably) change. Dealing with matters of the subconscious mind and changing from old societal expectations is hard. On the same token, positive change for men will probably take a while as well. =/
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:42 PM
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Look at Israel, both men and women are required to serve in the military. Not sure about the areas of duty and gender limitations though.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:38 PM
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Okay I have a bit of an issue parsing the stats for combat deaths in the context of it being a platform for unfair treatment. The ratio is so unbalanced for such an obvious reason and I find it very surprising that I have yet to run across someone here who has mentioned it or even questioned it. Women were simply not allowed to join the military for the longest time, let alone have a combat MOS, so how could they have possibly contributed to those numbers? Being that women are now allowed in (so…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 05:07 PM
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I wondered the same thing
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:52 PM
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Yeop
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:52 PM
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This is insane.... I've always wanted the widespread teaching for women defending themselves. God, some feminists will look for anything to get angry about -_- I don't understand, why are they mad at this!? How is this victim blaming!?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:38 PM
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It was kinda refreshing!
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:55 AM
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I watched COPS recently and there were at least two or three domestic cases where the woman was hauled away.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:43 AM
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" My boyfriend is like Eclipse. " " He looks hacked-together and was a last-resort because I was short on time and had no money " " Doesn't take 'no' for an answer " " He conveniently forgets everything important to me " " I have to clean up after every mess he makes " " He has absolutely no concept of time management and can't hold to a schedule to save his life " Disclaimer: The above is a joke and meant for sake of argument - not an actual representation of my boyfriend. And for the people wh…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:09 PM
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Heh for "vote brigading" - probably because I subscribe to r/subredditdrama and apparently it's a bad idea to vote on linked posts after viewing them from another sub. That's a bit silly, especially since I typically read the contents of the linked post before I vote. shrug I'unno
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:31 PM
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I have been on reddit for nearly 5 years and never once got shadowbanned - this is a mystifying concept :P I mostly lurk these days, so no big deal, but thanks for the heads up.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:00 PM
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What is "WBB" - women being bad?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:47 PM
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Yeah I'm not at all convinced he had anything to do with MRA/MRM either and the inevitable reality that [insert special interest group here] will try and use this as a means to drive their cause in the direction they want is sad =/ Personally, I don't want to immediately label him a "misogynist monster" (nor would I at all, really) because I've had close friends (men) who've struggled with gender identity and sexuality. It's hard, and for some people it's traumatizing to the point where they act…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:33 AM
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Yeah I think it's fair to assume that people are going to pay more attention to those issues relating to men's rights as this is a men's rights forum (as they should) - but sometimes I feel the need to throw in the referee flag or play devil's advocate with the risk of everyone coming down on me with the typical "god! it's not all about you!" Feminism used to have a point. It used to clearly be about women getting treated like capable human beings that were whole on their own. Unfortunately femi…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:36 PM
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Certainly, that goes without saying. It's just that everyone was going about the reply comment and missing the description of the facebook post. O-o'
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:04 PM
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No I mean physical strength has more than one component. I'm not referring to mental strength, I'm more referring to endurance and pain tolerance.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 05:02 PM
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It's also disgusting that this person wants this woman to get the death penalty for this...
/r/MensRights22/05/14 02:34 PM
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Well physically, I can kinda understand that. (On average at least) I just think strength is composed of multiple attributes and while men perform better with some, women perform better with others. So I think we compliment each other.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 02:01 PM
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"Girls are the weaker sex" is not a fair statement though :/ but I'm glad you found someone who'll be good to you :)
/r/MensRights22/05/14 03:03 AM
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Despite it being on WSHH, the video had good content.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 02:08 PM
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so slurs are okay on some crap "dictionary" site so long as they aren't anti-MRA? also, the "definitions" for "Feminazi" , "Femtard" and "Anitifeminist" are vastly contradictory to one another. O.o'
/r/MensRights13/05/14 08:08 PM
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In your reverse gender scenario - it's scary, but some people would flip their shit without even needing any context.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 08:21 AM
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reading this made me feel better :P
/r/MensRights13/05/14 08:18 AM
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Man....you really showed her how to not be understandably uncomfortable at first.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:34 PM
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everyone uses examples...it's how they relate to things. it's a thing humans do to understand the world around them. it's not exclusive to the MR world nor is to the feminist world (but i appreciate your suspicion).
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:23 PM
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I am hoping this isn't rage bait to stir the resentment pot and I am sincerely hoping this is not fake. Regardless, it sounds like the poor girl has issues... but that doesn't excuse her from acting this way toward people. You just have to cut all connections with people who turn 180 degrees like that in one conversation and hope they get the help they need. :/
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:21 PM
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oh my god, thank you! (apparently a lot of people here would just prefer to think the opposite because it's easier -.-')
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:17 PM
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Yeah, it makes sense. It's something I have found fixed a lot of my tendencies of stupid decision-making from earlier years =P
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:07 PM
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That's certainly true.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:06 PM
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"Tend to" or "do" - doesn't matter to me really... I just don't think this is an issue that even "tends to" affect one gender more than the other, period. Everyone gets nagged...people used to just ignore their nagging spouse and joke about them at bars with their friends... but now everyone seems to have found this phenomena emotionally traumatizing or something. And if this is how human resilience is going to trend from now on, damn I want out.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:00 PM
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In any case, well played. But it's not like anyone here really knows anyone's personal situations most of the time anyway, so it's almost useless to make personal jabs when the goal is to actually hurt someone's "feelings" =P
/r/MensRights11/05/14 10:51 PM
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The person I'm currently dating is a great person and I love/appreciate/respect him dearly. It's just a few bad ex's I've had. I was just giving an example of what I think most would consider "nagging" and "emotional abuse." So the stories about past relationships were merely to try and make a comparison. But I totally agree with not settling for less and being happy on your own. That is definitely important. Sometimes you really get caught by surprise with a person, but that'll always happen, s…
/r/MensRights11/05/14 10:49 PM
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I live on my own. I never lived with my ex or any of my past boyfriends. I don't live with my current boyfriend. How gracious of you to assume that I don't make my own worth. I'm an engineer, and I make my own living working my ass off and getting to research awesome and complex things that I'm proud to say I'm a part of. Sorry I'm not as useless as you want me to be. Take those kind of assumptions to Limbaugh and his crowd, I'm sure they'd actually take you seriously. By your assertions I am le…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 07:22 PM
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Good stuff!
/r/MensRights09/05/14 07:16 PM
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I don't know if I'd use the word "ammo" as much as I would use the words "good example"
/r/MensRights09/05/14 07:09 PM
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Well, I don't ever want to be a cause for any undue stress in anyone's life... whether they be male or female, it doesn't matter. I know plenty of girls who get nagged. But I don't get upset when someone nags me because I can just choose to ignore it, lest I find myself stricken with sudden awareness as to the fact I may be doing something that upsets them. In that case, I'll figure it out and try to fix the problem. I swear it's like people don't know how to interact with anyone anymore without…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 07:04 PM
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It was never intended to resemble anything debatable or a structured argument. Just a recollection of things I've experienced that relate, some which explain why I disagree. So, I'm afraid it's much more dim-witted than an actual argument (doesn't make the events any less true but the intention matters) Although I do believe veyron1001 illustrated some of my assertions quite nicely.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:55 PM
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And you resort to low blows and insults? Glad I don't take you seriously.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:34 PM
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Really? I'd enjoy seeing you try to beat the shit out of me in person or from behind your keyboard, whichever is more convenient. :)
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:32 PM
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Nah, not really. Just disagreeing. I'm allowed to, no?
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:30 PM
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Wow. You're quite the spokesman for Men's Rights and equality. Bravo.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:29 PM
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sigh I wasn't "picking" some random example. This was something that would typically happen in one of my roommate situations. Fuck it. I'm done, this is a waste of time. I just think your definition of "nagging" is over the top and you're looking to pick fights when they just aren't there.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:17 PM
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It's not about winning a debate. These were actual events I'm recalling. It's not an "argument" and it's not a "straw man".... it was an actual man who is still my friend who just never helped with chores. These things actually happen. (Unbelievable I know) And how does "rape" come into play here? Nagging >= rape? Nagging <= rape? Nagging == rape? I don't get it. I also would not consider myself a rape victim in the event you just described. Sorry to spoil your trump card. I have little interest…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:14 PM
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No, no it really doesn't. Nagging is at best being annoying and persistent... I've experienced my fair share of emotional abuse in my life, and I don't consider "nagging" to be emotional abuse. Me telling someone to help take out the trash when they haven't bothered to the last 5 times I've taken it out and asked them with no luck doesn't count as emotional abuse. So I guess I better "check my nagging" when I remember that time I asked my now ex why he didn't bother thinking of me or even sendin…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 05:57 PM
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OP has no shame for posting this crap. It's insulting whether any of you realize it or not. And you're proving my point. But apparently I'm just "nagging" - I guess I'm not allowed say anything to defend myself from dismissive attitudes. By your logic, no one is ever allowed to disagree at all. Me contributing to OP's potential health problem by leaving a slightly disgruntled response is also ridiculous, and is an accusation that shouldn't even be entertained. Lol, even the person in the comment…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 05:39 PM
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Because all women do is nag apparently. Women don't actually have ground to be upset because they don't have real problems. /s Men are thought to be more significantly affected as they tend to keep problems bottled up and have weaker support networks than women. Perpetuating a stereotype. There are plenty of women, myself included, who do the same. There are also many women who downplay their stress because they assume everyone will just think they are bitching or not take them seriously. Also, …
/r/MensRights09/05/14 05:19 PM
2

God, this reminds me of a good movie - "PCU." I think the women in the group of people who were supposed to represent RadFems in that movie called themselves "Womyn." Gotta admit, clever - but still.... just... no. lol Then again, we womenfolk did kinda steal your rib back in the day, so I think you taking partial "ownership" of our gender name isn't so bad. Sharing is caring. :P
/r/MensRights09/05/14 03:40 PM
1

This is just wrong...it would be equal if either all of us had to or none of us had to. Israel wised up to that, at least as far as equality goes. All citizens there are required to do military service for a certain time. Ideally, there should be no selective service, period. That, and the fact that they are trying to represent the idea in a way where they maintain some false moral high ground is idiotic and insulting.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 03:35 PM
1

We don't need people making stabs where they don't belong and that don't make sense. O.o (Unless that was just sarcasm - in which case, carry on)
/r/MensRights09/05/14 03:32 PM
1

Well either way, glad nothing came of it.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 03:51 PM
-6

Bullshit. Actually, let me elaborate: in some countries women get executed for their "actions" (getting raped, having consensual sex, driving a car, going out alone, refusing a marriage) ...that's a consequence, no?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 03:38 PM
4

That's a tired joke dude... find some better material.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 03:34 PM
2

Does anyone know if these people who reported the assaults were actually "feminists" or are we just assuming?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 03:07 PM
1

i'm not sure if "discrimination" was a proper choice of flair for this one, other than the wording of this article being socially discriminatory toward men. not that trans equality is AT ALL a bad thing. the overall tone of some of the content in this article is just more than a bit irritating. (i.e. "protect women and children" - as if men are the only ones capable of being predators)
/r/MensRights29/04/14 11:40 PM
2

Fair enough. I guess I can understand how it gets old.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 04:15 AM
4

At first I read it with some amount of sincerity - then I read it again after poking around the site and wondered if it wasn't quite written in the tone I initially thought. It apparently achieved the desired effect, heh.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 03:17 AM
10

No, you're right I don't - it would be just as legitimate if I were a guy posting this. It was partially me trying to let folks know that there are some women who think about these things I guess.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 03:08 AM
0

Wow.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 01:57 AM
1

I really doubt that doctors are taught to take men's pain less seriously and prioritize a woman's symptoms.... when doctors see someone being hauled in for having a heart attack or any of the symptoms of a heart attack, they don't typically waste any time getting them help regardless of who it is (in a good hospital). But I do have an interesting story that might be relevant... I once sat in a hospital ER for three hours, doubled over with chest pains, a partially numb arm, nausea, had a hard ti…
/r/MensRights18/04/14 01:55 AM
1

/agree I'd be completely fine if I had the responsibility of selective service. Even though I am aware that men get absolutely screwed in divorce court often, there are some cases where one of the parents should just never see the kid again... ever. (There are bad moms just like there are bad dads out there) Also, the pay gap was at one time very real, but is no longer a real issue and I think it's blown out of proportion now. But your bullet list is pretty spot on in the majority of circumstanc…
/r/MensRights18/04/14 12:01 AM
2

Sometimes I just think that people like her simply aren't capable of living in the real world... I'm thinking you hit the nail on the head there.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 11:24 PM
3

Yeah, that shit should be smacked down. I'm not much for tumblr, but I have seen a lot of "rape culture" shit on there that made me shudder in the bad way, so for that reason I think I see your point. And you're right - the entire male population shouldn't be blamed for some individuals being dumb. (I feel the same way about women largely, even though there is a scary trend that has emerged from feminists who are out of control)
/r/MensRights17/04/14 11:00 PM
2

"I totally reserve the right to not be offended!" Sounds about right.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 09:50 PM
1

Also, Melody posted: "3) I don't discount military vets' PTSD. I care about everyone with PTSD. I want people to realize that it is not a military-only condition." People replied: @BarbB2013 if you ain't suckin dick then be gone with you @MelodyHensley People get PTSD from serious real life shit. You don't get it from Twitter and you don't have it, you're just a fucking idiot @MelodyHensley ok so why do you stay on Twitter if it's hurting you so badly? Lmao dumbass bitch! @MelodyHensley if you t…
/r/MensRights17/04/14 09:43 PM
4

I've always listened to my friends, military or not it doesn't matter, if they needed to talk about something... and it is true that I can't stand people who demean others when no one has any way of knowing or understanding what goes through people's heads much of the time (And this is ESPECIALLY true with mental illness...people who suffer mostly from internal issues that they had no way of controlling because it's a glitch in their own brain chemistry from the time they were born) I kinda don'…
/r/MensRights17/04/14 06:09 PM
2

[snort] lol
/r/MensRights17/04/14 05:44 PM
1

Depends on the context I guess. Like, is it collections of videos where women do embarrassing things that they wouldn't want being posted publicly on the internet? Because then I would ask "why single out women in their embarrassing or unflattering moments? plenty of people act stupid on trains so what's with this?" Then again I'm sure I've seen sites where there are things that single out guys in those same moments. Dunno if people would rant as viscerally about them being sexist though.. and I…
/r/MensRights17/04/14 05:11 PM
1

The internet is has always been full of folks who hate men, women, their dogs, whatever... and until recently twitter was known to be full of MyGirlfriendNotAllowedTo crazygirlfriend whore dumbbitch makemeasandwich ... the list goes on - gif libraries of "woman driver" , collections of "woman thinks she can do math" jokes, etc etc. It's been around since I was on usenet groups and mailing lists, they have never stopped and people still do this. There are subreddits dedicated to promoting rape, a…
/r/MensRights17/04/14 04:59 PM
1

Read my reply to someone in this thread about my experiences working in DC, they are the opposite of what you are saying :(
/r/MensRights12/04/14 11:40 PM
1

Well damn.... I guess I did. That does raise the question "how much do men really care that you're a girl who likes the same things they do?"
/r/MensRights11/04/14 05:11 PM
2

Actually it's good that you mentioned those things - because a lot of that is exactly what I'm trying to understand. I do know women who really aren't interested in computers or anything technology related and it's worth thinking about. Maybe the answer is to stop making it a gender thing and focus on people's skill and personality on an individual level? (I'm sure I'd get reamed by some of the feminists who think it is all about gender, but meh)
/r/MensRights11/04/14 05:00 PM
1

No, I mean that there is clearly a difference in the way men and women perceive these issues and it's probably worth it to figure out why that is. We don't need to 'include women' for having vaginas. We need to demand they pull their weight and then respect them as equals. I don't think that women should be included for that reason at all. MANY women don't think that we should be included only because we are women... I agree with you about respecting people as equals... but the argument I am try…
/r/MensRights11/04/14 04:43 PM
2

That is a good point, because back when I was in school I did notice a huge shift of the administration even within the four years I was there. I didn't think it was a bad thing that more women were in higher positions, and I still don't, but at the same time I do hate the fact that less and less men are graduating from college now. I pretty much stayed away from the "women and gender studies" crowd because much of the time I would just walk away from those conversations being irritated by what …
/r/MensRights11/04/14 04:34 PM
1

The more I think on it, I completely agree with you on the equality of opportunity bit, and yes I can see this "pay teachers more for teaching girls coding" thing playing out badly by way of promoting favoritism in the classroom and over time leading to a bad perception of men in the industry just like it was (and might still be) with women. I don't know if this is a bad analogy, but I think of "favoritism" in this context much in the same way catholic schools love kids whose parents pay more mo…
/r/MensRights11/04/14 04:13 PM
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As per #3 - so I guess women just have no place in any industry ever then. You also assume that fathers don't take leave some times to take care of their children. As someone who did study CS, codes and hacks for a living, I've experienced many times what a lot of women get frustrated about: not feeling included. I never said it was completely fair or unfair, I just tried to point out the intention behind things as to why Google may be doing that. You need female perspective just as much as you …
/r/MensRights11/04/14 02:53 PM
2

I was actually wondering about that....I'm not too sure how they are actually perceived in Germany, much less worldwide. I still like the idea with a lot of these quote though.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:09 PM
1

Yeah, it's kind of an idiom. Like "I have mixed feelings about this but I gotta say..."
/r/MensRights10/04/14 09:05 PM
1

I wish more feminists would look to Mayer as their baseline for how to treat people - then we might get somewhere... and shame on other women who called her out for not giving herself special treatment. Thanks for this post!
/r/MensRights10/04/14 08:18 PM
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Hook, line and sinker. I was about to get all bent out of shape. Clever, and your point is well taken. Remarks like that in either direction sound sexist =/
/r/MensRights10/04/14 07:48 PM
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While I get what you're saying, I kinda don't think this is a "harebrained initiative"
/r/MensRights10/04/14 07:14 PM
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While I am definitely a supporter of men's rights.... this is a bit of sensitive issue for me and many girls out there who are in computer science. I don't think that this particular thing is entirely unfair so long as you stop offering the incentives upon the goal of balance being reached. Because this is an area where there is still hardly any balance and a lot of girls are afraid because they get so much shit for only wanting to do what interests them. There is a reason people are doing this,…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 07:10 PM
1

I completely agree, only this seems to be from the perspective of those in Russia, not the US. What's the situation like over there? (Honestly, I have no clue - but I have know Russian women to be just as violent as Russian men...) But then again, even if you did this in a place where violence against women actually is still a really bad problem (like Saudi or Dakar), I still think that using vending machine rage for your DV-awareness demonstration is just dumb.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 05:20 PM
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Most of them are doing what a lot of people do when a crappy vending machine steals their $1.75 and they didn't get their damned twix bar. I'd be pissed, and I'd probably bump or shake the machine a bit in hopes of maybe knocking my candy bar loose. If people are going to organize this kind of thing, at least make it a cogent analogy. Domestic violence != Vending machine rage. Aside from that - I've also known some Russian women to be rather...er...violent. So I don't see what they're trying to …
/r/MensRights10/04/14 05:11 PM
1

These are profound and I enjoy them. :)
/r/MensRights08/04/14 01:29 AM
2

I am kind of a recent convert, but it's really good (if sometimes a bit painful) to talk about this stuff with a person who is the opposite gender to yourself. I felt like I understood a lot more about the male perspective every time I brought it up with a guy I was dating, especially when talking about it with my boyfriend now, because he has certain insight that I'd never really had before. I mean, I also had insight that he didn't but the fact that the exchange can happen and provide understa…
/r/MensRights07/04/14 09:09 PM
2

OMG i love that group, their "campus free speech" investigation reports are sometimes hilarious, even when the principle behind many of them is just sad :/ sometimes i feel bad for laughing, but it's only because it pains me to think how much some people just don't get it.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 08:49 PM
3

Genau! Ich mit einem lachenden und einem weinenden Auge doch, bin ich eine nuancierte Haltung ein... Ich bin keine Feministin, weil ich erwarte das Gleich von einem Mann dass ich von mir erwarte - und wir sind aus eine Weg in dem wir uns am wohlsten fühlen leben.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 08:03 PM
1

Yeah I have found that personal attacks don't do much good other than drive the conversation into some kind of pit that's hard to climb out of. And honestly, while I've been poking around these forums someone somewhere presents a perspective I've never thought of before. I've generally found a mix here but it is certainly a much better discussion most of the time than toxic stuff I used to run into on r/feminism. Heh
/r/MensRights03/04/14 11:23 PM
2

While I differ in some ways with the points made, it's a good perspective. A lot was and is still expected of men, but they at least had some control over their destinies and more opportunity to get what they wanted out life, hard work or not. Also, raising a child and taking care of the home is no easy job and many women still do that (many with the help of their husbands) and work. So I think the feminist movement also sort of backfired on women in that way too. We kinda got more work when we …
/r/MensRights03/04/14 02:50 AM
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They do deserve discussion. Because a lot of men who expected the right to vote definitely had to make sacrifices, but I find that some people assume women just wanted to vote while shirking their responsibility to their country and would be righteously offended if they were drafted. There were likely some who didn't think about the responsibility and would have had a rude awakening, but it is hard to tell. I would go into it completely okay with the responsibility. Not just because it is fair b…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:53 AM
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I find myself making some assumptions of men occasionally, but I do make an honest effort to figure out why I make the assumptions I do and then I remember all the men I know who prove those assumptions wrong. Yeah I am not sure why some of the things that seem thoughtful get downvoted here. Hell, I've upvoted replies that I don't exactly agree with but I think they are a good contribution. Meh, my comment history kinda shows that I am not the most enlightened person out there about these things…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:28 AM
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Thanks! Yeah I wish more of them would come out of the woodwork and put the past behind them. Because the only way we can make things right for both genders is listening to each other. Sounds cheesy I know, but it just makes sense. That and men should know that some women realize there is a problem and just like the people before me fought for equality for women, I don't have any qualms with fighting for men to achieve the same thing when it needs to be done.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:16 AM
1

I am referring to the period of time when women were not allowed to be educated or vote or serve their country. When they were called whores for having a decent sex life and were not allowed to participate in sports. But I don't want to focus on that anymore because this is not the place. Whenever I have found myself going on about women's problems back in yesteryear when responding to people who actually thought women were just being whiny twats who didn't know how good they had it, I realized …
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:06 AM
2

My boyfriend and I regularly have discussions about this, and yeah I think men's rights has become every bit as legitimate as feminism was. I hope this won't be used to make this just an effort to denounce feminism, but even still, I can no longer ignore the way things have shifted and that it has become something that makes good men suffer. I focus on calling out radical feminists who only seem to be interested in perpetuating hatred, which I assume is part of the intended purpose of this.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 11:53 PM
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Ugh, she's not a real feminist. She just seems like a presumptuous jerk who probably has a chip on her shoulder about men. I'm a girl and a lot of the things she says pisses me off and are rude. She's not a feminist. Feminism existed for a real reason when women actually had the shit end of the stick in life. So I hate it when people like her make a legitimate reaction to grievances look like an evil plot to destroy the masculine figure. Real feminists don't hate men, they just want to be treate…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 11:37 PM
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Yeah, it's the fact that this post is evidence that something is being acknowledged for once and that people are starting to pay attention to what's fair and that it's not about feminism being "evil"... But I still appreciate the fact that you (wtf81) are trying to reiterate something truly annoying that happens with the mindset of some feminists who are missing the point of their own movement. It is sort of relevant given that it is in many cases the logic that kindles these double standards.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 10:53 PM
3

It's good people are realizing that there are unfair legal and social consequences with these things!
/r/MensRights02/04/14 10:43 PM
1

I am a girl. And some of the "critique" on this sub is nothing more than resentful bullshit that hardly has any substance worth revisiting. Some of it is also good though. But I agree with that last bit.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 05:38 PM
2

Ugh.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:32 PM
1

my friends who were girls only played with their kitchen sets and cabbage patch kids and their parents got offended if they wanted anything otherwise. i got lucky and had parents were pretty neutral when it came to my toys and i got to have batman toys because batman is awesome. although no one ever advertised GI Joe or toy trucks for girls back then. boys toys are actually cool. i was happy to see that they FINALLY put out girl's NERF gun commercial though. also, i remember a friend i had growi…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 05:08 PM
1

Your use of the term "revisionist history" is not only false but it's insulting. Women were never really entitled to anything, especially not socially, until around 20-30 years ago. Your point that women wanted to vote without the obligation of being drafted is a dipshit statement and shouldn't even be dignified by a response. How can women want to vote while not being drafted when women weren't even allowed in the military? (I should also point out that neither men nor women are currently oblig…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:52 PM
1

And this conversation might be going nowhere. So I think I'll get off here. Otherwise I think the phrase "ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer" applies here more than anything else.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 07:23 PM
1

well it took centuries for people to give two shits about the horrible crap women had to deal with, and now men are seeing a backlash and they immediately start movements. not at all saying anyone owes me shit, i just figured i should point that out.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:08 AM
2

Any gender role that doesn't help humanity biologically is stupid. I'm not a feminist and I don't think we have a need for feminism anymore really. It's starting to backfire too much. There was a need for it but that's only because women were actually treated like shit when now it is a different dynamic. I'm a girl, but if I had a son I'd want him to be happy with whatever toys made him happy. If he liked watching my little pony, so be it - it's a good show that teaches good things. He'll probab…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:10 PM
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That's a huge reach. This has nothing to do with feminism. Boys have always been taught to think dolls were icky while girls were always taught they could only play with their kitchen sets because that's "what they did." You didn't see girls bitching about it until recently either. Girls have had the idea shoved down their throats that they were supposed to cook, clean and care for kids through their childhood toys for centuries while boys got to play with things that were even mildly intellectu…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:57 PM
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I know how this sub gets at times. And yes, there are plenty of folks who will say stupid things like "bitches are crazy" and "women whine." I've seen so many demeaning and resentful comments about women around here equal to the amount of thoughtful and worthwhile discourse, so they are not just inferring when there is plenty of empirical data to pull from. Regardless, we seem to be turning into Japan. Awesome. [Edit: It is not clear to me that they were implying MRAs supported upskirting so muc…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:43 PM
1

Ahh, I had Molly. But I am a girl. I also had batman toys and legos :)
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:33 PM
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i was going to go with "gay" but apparently the magic word here was "pedophile"? news to me. pretty sure the word would, as per popular assumption, would be "gay" and not "rapist" or "pedophile" - so i think this is reaching a little. when i was a kid i wanted batman toys. my parents were okay with it. unfortunately most of the girls i knew had to deal with their kitchen sets because that's what "girls played with" while the boys got all the cool stuff. :/ my clothing however was apparently wher…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:04 PM
1

Ahh I see. Yeah I would tend to agree with that overall. I also didn't think about the negotiation having similar effects in different scenarios. I like that idea that any problem that existed could only be truly fixed given emphasis on the individual's action when faced with that scenario. I'd definitely prefer an emphasis on coaching individual women to negotiate and be more confident as opposed to having some kind of mandated "solution" be systemically enforced (which has proven to more often…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 05:42 PM
0

So I did not see it and I am trying to find it. I am interested because I usually like her sketches and get a few giggles out of them. Meanwhile, this is pretty funny: Lol this Anyone know what the sketch was called or have a link?
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:46 PM
1

This had absolutely nothing to do with feminism and the fact that you took my comment in that direction means that you clearly aren't interested in a worthwhile discussion any more than you are in being a possibly troll. Or perhaps you just really are this much of a depraved asshole. I suggest you pack up and find a way to relocate to Saudi. I'm sure you will find life to be much more to your liking there as you'll find many women who will tend to your every need and worship your manly essense. …
/r/MensRights09/03/14 08:21 AM
1

And you also seem to enjoy putting words in people's mouth.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 07:59 AM
2

My life is anything but easier, for more reasons than anything revolving around gender. I am so tired of the one-up game because it solves nothing and I refuse to participate. I am only intetested in trying to help people, not bitch about who has it worse when it is the case most of the time that neither party has any clue what the other goes through. Don't ever say a woman's life is easy. I won't say a man's life is easy because the only life I really know about is my own. People who say things…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 11:50 PM
0

Fascinating. I am not even going to dignify this with anything further because it seems like you have experience with neither.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 11:37 PM
2

I used to work at DoL, programming. I never really noticed this. You'd think I would have been more informed on the inner workings of the dozens of agencies that exist in there, but nope - I was just their code monkey. Unfortunately I am NDA'd and can't say much of anything about what I did for the office of financial systems (OFS). I also wasn't a GS. Quite frankly, if I were a GS15 (or anything higher) there, I wouldn't be bitching period, because many of those who have titles higher than that…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 07:17 PM
1

So what you are saying is that being accused is much worse than being raped?
/r/MensRights08/03/14 04:44 PM
0

This is helpful. Seriously.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 05:50 AM
0

that was me trying to point out the statement you just made, with the reservation that one still happens more than the other honestly, im just conflicted and i both agree and disagree in ways with you, if that makes any sense at all.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 05:38 AM
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you never know on either side. you never know what anyone is going through. i know a little something about not being taken seriously and being ignored. but what do i know about real struggles? im a girl, so i must be a thoughtless, souless, inconsiderate power-hungry bitch. also, i will, in one way, validate your claim by saying i once had very emphatically not consentual sex, but i wasnt hurt by it really. i never blamed the guy, because in that case, it was not at all his fault. it is hard to…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 05:30 AM
0

your sarcasm is misplaced. women also contract STDs and nowhere does anyone imply men are ridden with them and women are somehow pure. rethink your contribution and start again.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 04:37 AM
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right. as if i wasnt contributing to this discourse in a level headed and thoughtful manner. also your assertion of my statements being marginalized means you didnt read or understand what i wrote. all "emotions" aside, i thought the comparison in question was a bad one and made slightly in poor taste.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 04:34 AM
1

for many, this still is not the case. so dont make an all-encompassing statement that rape victims somehow have it easier. girls or guys, it doesnt matter. that is just as dangerous an assumption as anything else.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 04:18 AM
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and i dont mean to be an asshole and post insulting things when someone is trying to shed light on an injustice and the pain it has caused them and the people they love, i just thought someone comparing this to being raped was a bit off and that there are cases where it just isnt the same.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 02:28 AM
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i was just saying that because i thought it was an off comparison. of course a person going through this needs as much care as someone who was raped, if they are truly traumatized by the situation and are feeling the same things. i can understand that from a distance. only because i am now in the middle of an awkward situation where a good friend of mine was raped and started acting a little more than erratic and she was starting to blame one of our mutual friends for assisting in the act. we al…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 02:19 AM
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FIRE and REASON are AMAZING when it comes to things like this. I like reading their stuff on protecting free speech in academia just as much.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:11 PM
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I suggest that college men of the USA should not date any girl who goes to the same college. It is not worth the risk. That would be true and would work if it were the case that all women lied about being raped. It's sad that anyone has to be afraid of that happening and even more sad when it does happen, but never would I consider that a solution.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:05 PM
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Have you ever been raped? Because a person who has been raped will experience this far more than those accused of rape in most cases. And I am not saying that there are not cases where the accused suffers a great deal more than the accuser (because there are), but my point still stands that actually being raped will more so be the bringer of stress and that would not be the first thing to pop into your head when you've experienced rape.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:01 PM
0

Well, they have all girl's schools and all boy's schools at the high school level - so why not? I admit that it does do a lot of good in regard to focusing on one's education when the genders are separated (especially at that age) but there are too many cases where you'll have the girl's school providing lack-luster education while the boys get the creme of the crop. At least that's how it usually turned out with catholic schools any time before the 90's. Not sure if that is the case today. (And…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:55 PM
2

Geez, I don't even read Cosmo and I definitely won't be reading it anymore if this shit keeps getting put in there. I'm torn between their intentions behind "asking around" too. It's good they tried to uncover people's experiences but the fact that they also sought to justify it kinda freaks me out. I don't want a kid until I'm damn good and ready 'cause that's a hell of a lot of work and a major lifestyle change, so I wouldn't want to subject my boyfriend to that either unless the decision was …
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:43 PM
2

Yeah, that's just fucked up. There should be a precedent established that when someone does that, both parties will be given what they deserve, regardless of their gender. I don't know if there is protection for men on that front currently. I think a lot of women just sometimes think they should have the upper hand in anything child-related only because it is the assumption they suffer more and carry most or all of the burden when plenty of times that is clearly not the case at all. That, and sa…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:25 PM
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But that's not what this article is about. Yes, that does happen, but not in this particular case. That's why I didn't understand the basis of the some of the comments. But then I wondered if the comments were just implying that if the roles were reversed from this scenario, it would still be unfair to the guy.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:15 PM
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Right on, fight the good fight! And hell, hopefully you guys can play a part in dissolving the need for these factioned "___ rights" groups and set a precedent for human rights to prevail more than anything else. Stay positive, and I wish you the best!
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:36 PM
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This scares me only because I can see this sparking some trend for using the opposite gender's restroom and only when you get in trouble or something bad happens do you decide to come out as being "transgender" ... I have faith in human preservation and the capacity for that preservation to be carried out by being a douchebag... so that would more than likely be a thing, if not for getting oneself out of a potential conviction but for a lawyer to win their case.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:31 PM
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I think both of you have good points. Does that count? lol I think the issue is largely one dependent on context of a scenario. There is never a one-size-fits-all solution to this kind of thing. I think the responsibility of preventing these things exists with both parties. Failing to look at both roles with equal discretion is where the problem lies. We also should not fall prey to over-simplifying a complex issue that, again, relies heavily on context in many cases. Girls: You should not be as…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:22 PM
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Wow, that is refreshing. Like, really refreshing. I thought this was being posted because OP thought this was yet another organization that "put down men" when it just didn't look like it was. Nevermind, carry on. My comment was just trying to emphasize that I thought this was a good thing when I thought it may have been posted here with the intention of assuming it was going to be unfair to men. (Actually, to warrant my fear that this was being posted with that intention, just look at the comme…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:01 PM
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Awesome.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 06:56 PM
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Well this is just refreshing.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 06:51 PM
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no.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 06:42 PM
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this just looks deeply misinformed. i still hate the factioning though. someone should form a group where people try to not demonize the other and solve their issues by thinking logically. but that might just be me being too much of an optimist. lol
/r/MensRights07/03/14 06:41 PM
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Where does it say that this only applies to females? Is there any evidence that this organization has a covert intention of condemning the male student population? Blog section: Attention must be paid -- and changes in procedure must be initiated -- for there to be fairness and justice for all students, including both an accuser and the person accused. And another good bit in their about section: Policies and procedures have been imposed upon colleges and universities by the Department of Educat…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 06:20 PM
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Good question. I'm a girl and I can't think of one. I'm also not a lawyer or well-read on the subject. But now I'm curious.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 06:00 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 05:59 PM
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Read the article again please. Unless you were referring solely to it not being right that sexual assault charges were brought on him. That I have my reservations about, because there are better ways to handle than to do that. That was unnecessary, but this is not at all a case of a woman trapping a man in an unwanted marriage or pregnancy. He was the one who made her think she was preventing a potential pregnancy when he was actually tampering with condoms. I think I am misunderstanding your wo…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 05:48 PM
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Did anyone here actually RTFA? This is not about women lying about their birth control or trapping a man in an unwanted pregnancy. [Edit:] Nevermind, too quick to comment. Is it just to bark that "women always do this" or is the point of this actually to say that when the scenario is reversed, it is still unfair?
/r/MensRights07/03/14 05:45 PM
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Interesting, but I think a more accurate description would be "Women have become the enemy, not men"
/r/MensRights07/03/14 04:19 PM
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here you go, i made a meme, 'cause it's kinda true: http://i.imgur.com/BfMkfuM.jpg
/r/MensRights06/03/14 03:41 PM
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the more i know! haha emoticons and sound effects are the way to go
/r/MensRights05/03/14 05:24 PM
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true, true - honestly if there were another draft in the US, i think both genders should make the sacrifice. do you live in Greece or Israel or something? (those are the only two countries i know about that still have a draft, i'm sure there are plenty more)
/r/MensRights05/03/14 05:23 PM
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/facepalm yeeeah, that's silly. i'm a girl and in different ways can completely understand the frustration. also, i've seen it all over the place here - what's /s?
/r/MensRights05/03/14 04:02 PM
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Yeah, in Greece and Israel, military service is mandatory. And in Israel both men and women have to do it I think.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 03:55 PM
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/agree It's refreshing to hear someone saying women and men should drafted as equals and not simultaneously complaining about men being drafted while calling women shitty soldiers.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 03:53 PM
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yeah, at least some of the people in that photo would still be alive =P
/r/MensRights05/03/14 03:49 PM
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you aren't "called to war" either.... women also fight nowadays. and last time i checked, uncle sam's "call" has been a voluntary decision since 1973.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 03:48 PM
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here here!
/r/MensRights05/03/14 03:31 PM
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[last comment deleted because i just realized i totally misread this in my sleepy stupor] but i will agree that a lot of the feminists out there now are just nuts and are extremely hypocritical. and im sorry that the setup where you live sucks. divorce and marriage laws in this country, for the most part, now favor the woman unless there are prenumps - so that definitely needs to change. i dont know, there are just so many bad things that go on for both sides that it has gotten to the point wher…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:19 AM
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Well that's just sad. And I'm truly sorry you feel that way. I don't deny that does happen among certain populations, but those populations are often stuck in an old belief system, or just need to be humbled. My only wish is that folks learn to look beyond gender and appreciate the person to lift them up. Strengthen weakness, admire strengths, all that good stuff. For some it's just a hard thing to accept, but I try to focus on the good while trying not ignore the bad. I don't really know the an…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 12:27 AM
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i can see how someone would think that, so yeah i would agree it probably isn't the best solution (or even the best business model). i just got to thinking if a guy did the same thing how it would be perceived? (maybe off topic in regard to your comment) some girls would probably jump immediately to "omg what a sleaze bucket!" while some would stick to "not fair" and then there would be those who just didn't give a rat's ass and found another place. [shrug]
/r/MensRights27/02/14 05:37 PM
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/facepalm, see reply above.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:50 PM
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I just don't see how this is a valid "Men's Issue" in society. Start talking about divorce court shenanigans, then you'd have something. Complaining about small stuff like this just confuses me when women have dealt with way worse over the centuries and there are plenty of ACTUAL problems facing men at the moment than having to find another person to do their massage. So my point still stands. And hell, if a guy were in a similar situation and thought he could reduce the risk of a bad situation …
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:48 PM
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probably not, but i don't know what she was thinking so anyone's guess is valid until someone asks her.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:43 PM
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HA!
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:41 PM
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What game? The one you just lost?
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:40 PM
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what is typical? cause many of female friends are kinda similar to me. at least i would hope most women arent mean about that stuff. now when it comes to divorce court, thats a different story. ive seen examples that ran the gambit from women being manipulative weens who try to do everything they can to leave their ex with nothing (some just because they could) to women who just had passive "lets just get this over with and move on" attitudes. and thanks :) you as well :) everyone deserves to be…
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:09 PM
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its not always about rape...not every woman assumes all men are rapists. maybe she doesnt want a reputation of being the "whore" who gives happy endings. here's a thought, why dont you message her and ask her why she does that instead of using her post to malign women all over the internet?
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:21 AM
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she might have recently had something bad happen to her. she has the right to do that and i dont automatically think its a slight against men really. you never know what someone's situation is or was. people pick and choose their clientel all the time in different ways so i'd just find another place to get a massage and not think too much about it.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 12:18 AM
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/agree
/r/MensRights27/02/14 12:14 AM
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i dunno about that. i mean that sort of scenario has definitely happened plenty, but not enough to where it should just be an assumption. and when that kind of thing does happen, the question of "did i truly care about you enough to marry you in the first place?" or "why did i really marry you?" should be asked. i am a girl who has dated one man who was, at the time, going through a divorce and currently i am dating a man who is also far along in that same process. ive dated guys who were not in…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 11:50 PM
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HA, the joke is funny - but the idea behind it is sad.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 04:57 PM
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also, this is interesting - even though it is the NYTimes (ugh) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/world/asia/22afghanistan.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 there is a mention of "She-wees" in there. i was amused. but yeah, i don't really know what to think of this.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 02:33 PM
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and i appreciate that, because i hate social engineering when the fundamental premise is bullshit. i just want people to realize that there are outliers among the woman folk. and be it fantasy or reality it is just sad that women have a really hard time when some only want to be appreciated, help people and be heros the same way men are. stats are stats, and i know a little something about math. (im a computer scientist and a former software tyrant- another way i am not a usual girl apparently) …
/r/MensRights26/02/14 01:29 AM
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aha! thanks much :P
/r/MensRights26/02/14 12:17 AM
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you are only making yourself look like an ass here... i hope you realize that :/
/r/MensRights26/02/14 12:15 AM
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im still not sanguin(sp) about making this a gender issue, but i cant deny that people generally assume trafficing as a terror to women and oftentimes overlook that it happens to both girls and boys. but what about all the abuse scandals in the catholic church? im sure it happens to girls a lot but mostly boys get the focus there. regardless, i think the fact that people pick at these horrible things is awful in itself, but i did learn something. i knew boys in liberia were always subject to bei…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 12:06 AM
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now my intention is not to contribute to the apparent war going on between the factions here, but i am curious as to why i get downvoted so much on posts to that subreddit. heh, sometimes i get in trouble when trying to explore the two sides to every story. i may be missing the point here though. perhaps it is more a question of reddiquette and not human rights? i dont know.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 11:42 PM
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done and done. hopefully its more legible. one can only get so far on a phone sometimes though. but yeah, i actually like this subreddit far more than r/feminism (even though ive never quite liked that subreddit, hopefully its gotten less stupid). but at least this one provides more of an outlet for comtemplative (and civil) discourse on everyone's assumptions/worldviews. and hell i have some that ive come to realize are messed up or not quite complete - but everyone does. and sometimes people j…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 10:21 PM
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Well where is there a pattern then? Are they enlisted or an officer? Not that one is better than the other, but there is this whole E vs. O thing going on in a lot of places. Most of my female military friends are officers, and a few are enlisted. A marine friend of mine - an officer - has a few gripes total, but has otherwise has had a generally good experience with his female coworkers. And what I said about my friend being in desert storm was certainly true. There is a picture of her there. S…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 07:42 PM
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fair enough. although i've been known for never capitalizing anything and my punctuation is usually used in ways i invent. i am not a writer. period. i program and tear binary files a part for fun - so writing is certainly not my strong point.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 06:05 PM
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"the average fit 180lb male is faster and stronger than the fastest and strongest women to have ever lived it's fair to call women weak in this context." <-- and what exactly about this "sentence" is so scholarly to you, hm? anywho, that response is in paragraphs. three actually. well, more like two followed by a hanging sentence. so what do you mean? i'm not rewriting it because that isn't the point and it was written while being flustered at how irrelevant the comments were that i was reading.…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 05:43 PM
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TL;DR - "the average fit 180lb male is faster and stronger than the fastest and strongest women to have ever lived it's fair to call women weak in this context" - this confuses me. i have even proven myself to be stronger than an average male on occasion. in high school, though for short distances, i could outrun many of my classmates (some of whom were guys) i am no pinnacle of human physique or strength either. i know my own limitations but i also know that people like me are underestimated al…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 04:22 PM
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yeah i appreciate this post, but not for readily apparent reasons. you've shed light on the fact that you have the same vengeful spirit as the feminists you claim to be irritating. and i definitely am on board with not demonizing good men who did nothing wrong and aren't assholes.... but think about the statement in that picture.. "Sucks to have your gender demonized doesn't it?" Actually yes, yes it does - and i think women would know just as much about that feeling, if not slightly more as the…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:23 PM
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it doesn't say men couldn't apply, it was essentially something aiming at women so they'd pay attention. (or so it seems) although i kinda wish everyone would just adopt a "hire the most qualified" school of thought =/ well, whatever the case, god speed, and i hope you get the job regardless =D
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:01 PM
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also, please don't make this as toxic as the shit i see in r/feminism - because the same kind of dismissive "you couldn't possibly have anything worthwhile to contribute" attitude is almost starting to happen here in some of these threads.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 02:54 PM
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from the first link: Top 148 Single Ply Male Squats Aaron Phillips USAPL 600 Michael Hafenbrach USAPL 578 Scott Layman USPA 578 Top 198 Single Ply Female Squats Ariel Parker USAPL 529 Ashleigh Andrews USAPL 479 Aura Morris USPA 440 apparently not a huge difference and that's just the first thing i saw. i'm gonna poke around some more though.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 02:26 PM
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that wasn't really my point, but i agree. my boyfriend does nice things for me because he wants to and i'm never going shit on anyone for being nice and caring about me, and i do nice things for him too for the same reason. i'm just different and i'm not used to being helped. not that i see it as a weakness when someone helps another person, i'm just weird about that for reasons that have little to do with gender. the statement i made was supposed to be something that reflected an assumption i t…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 02:22 PM
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this is her, http://imgur.com/Uacwpzo - her name is jennifer. she was my neighbor growing up. and why is this so hard to fucking believe? am i supposed to believe your story just because he was a guy? does that immediately make his purple heart and CIB so much more credible? women who serve our country deserve the same fucking respect, end of story. edit: two tours total, one of which was desert storm. regardless of my poor wording, i'd have no reason to spew bullshit, especially on an issue as …
/r/MensRights25/02/14 02:13 PM
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im curious actually, who are the top male/female lifters at the moment?
/r/MensRights25/02/14 05:32 AM
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fair points. dunno if it will change any time soon though. i think emphasis should just be on not giving a shit and letting people figure out what theyre good at on their own. there will always be those women with napolean complexes who will be crushed when they realize they just arent capable just like there are guys who couldnt lift a couch no matter how hard they trained. (sorry, furniture seems to be the go-to analogy here, lol)
/r/MensRights25/02/14 05:25 AM
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face palm i am a girl, and i have moved myself in and out of apartments numerous times lifting fairly heavy pieces of furniture. i also drove the truck and i didnt have to suck cock to get it done. amazing.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 05:21 AM
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actually, there is something stopping a good number of them. being told they cant from the time theyre toddlers and having their parents shovel them in another, "more appropriate" direction. not to say every woman should be ripped or become a body builder (im not into that sort of thing really) but they are certainly worthy of comparison and a few dropped jaws here and there.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 05:15 AM
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certainly, unfortunately he's not the type im referring to. my friend has two tours under her belt in desert storm and she doesnt have shit to prove either. she wasnt exactly the person behind a desk pushing buttons or taking phonecalls either.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 04:54 AM
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9 for 9 huh? hollywood is even less absurd than that statement. that's completely ridiculous. there is such a thing as a naturally weak man. it isnt women who are bad news for the military, it is weak people who are bad news for the military. there are plenty of cases where gender hardly matters. my friend has had a pretty successful run of 28 yrs in the army and she's been in two warzones, she's still healthy, strong and she doesn't complain about her voluntary decision. she takes her job just …
/r/MensRights25/02/14 04:15 AM
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fair enough, but the point is that they overcame perceptions of weakness and ended up lifting the 200lbs anyway. and yeah, that hulking mass of a person will have the advantage until they cant see the tiny kid behind them with insane percision and a knack for moving fast jutting the knife into their kidney. and a large percentage of being a soldier is also not having rocks for brains. strength, a great immune system, physique, endurance, discipline and loyalty will take you the rest of the way. …
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:36 AM
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yeah, but when have we ever known politicians to exercise logic? lol and believe it or not, i might well be able to kill a person without them seeing it coming. it doesnt take strength, it takes speed, aptitude, and really knowing your way around a person's anatomy. ive also known a few women firefighters who could just as easily carry someone weighing their equivalent, it just took training or them being clever with their center of gravity.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:20 AM
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thats likely because folks like them are maladjusted jackasses who think they have something to prove :/
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:05 AM
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there is a reason we dont put them on the frontline, mostly because theyd be an unfortunate bargaining chip and it usually ends in tragedy. but my boss is a lt coln in the army and she could kill you in your sleep. http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_8872_LBVHNKAKUE.jpg
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:02 AM
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yeah, women can be great soldiers. especially when they kick ass at PT when given the same standards as a man. and the equal requirements thing doesn't happen everywhere i know, but there are places it does, and there are women in those places who surprise people like you. now, i would say that women are awful sperm doners.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 03:49 PM
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this doesn't surprise me. it might be related to the "hey! that's our word!" complex that seems to eventually circulate among groups that have been oppressed. it all depends on your surroundings i think. my ex always called his ex-wife a whore every chance he could (well she did cheat on him), but the more i got to know him the more i realized he was just as much a "whore" as his ex. but he's not all men, and i certainly don't look to him for my representative specimen - he was just an asshole. …
/r/MensRights21/02/14 03:36 PM
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