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Child of mine by Carol king is the only other I can think of but it’s not gender specific even. So yeah women just don’t write as many of these songs as men do and it’s a ridiculous take that just because you found one example that this discounts the fact that women don’t write these songs as often as men. Do you think women write as many of these songs as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:43 AM
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You can’t get ghosted in person. And the differing levels in confidence are more obvious. A woman who can’t hold a conversation can still appear to “hold the cards” on a dating app by simply being reticent but in public, she may be a deer in headlights in actual social interactions. When in person you can immediately get body language and a tone of voice that will let you know whether this person is a waste of time or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:10 PM
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And women can make love songs for men too that women can listen to. What’s your point buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:10 PM
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No women absolutely enjoy the love songs men write. And where are the songs about mothers living their sons? Seems moms are shit at expressing their love too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:01 PM
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Yes and those songs were written for idealistic young girls to listen to not men lol Her namesake (James taylor) shits on her catalog in this aspect. He also is classy enough to not shit talk his exes. Taylor needs to shit talk her exes to preserve her ego because she’s insecure Do you think Taylor has ever flattered even a man she knows personally with her music?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:59 PM
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I’ll give you Emily Dickinson and Browning who are very adjacent. But lol Sappho wrote poems about women and Taylor swift does not write songs for men. Taylor swift is a good example of how antisocial women’s consumption of “love media” is. They use her music as a way to idealize about relationships yet none of the music is actually appealing to men. It’s like they want a love story without having to do any of the loving which would involve having to understand what men like which is too much wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:54 PM
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That’s not what I said. What art have women created as a dedication to the person they love? Even in the past 50 years? lol the projection that I’m some misogynist who thinks women don’t make good art. Can’t take you people seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:19 PM
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Yes it’s not the difference in love languages that is the issue, but the asymmetry some seem to almost expect in the relationship. Sure maybe giving gifts isn’t their love language but if they are simply receiving gifts and not speaking their love language back then they are just selfish lovers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:04 PM
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History just shows that a woman’s love is not as beautiful as a man’s Men have written beautiful poetry, painted beautiful paintings, written love songs and moved mountains all to proclaim their love. Even non romantic love. Stevie wonder wrote a beautiful song about his daughter. Where are the songs that mom’s wrote about how much they love their sons? Like what beautiful culture/art have women created out their love for men? It’s pathetic. Most just look pretty but their love is ugly, bland an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:01 PM
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Gay men manage to get along just fine without acting cunty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:37 PM
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“Men are evil so I’m going to use that as an excuse to act like a standoffish cunt” Is basically the summary of most women who rationalize being lazy at dating They end up with self loathing simps because men with self respect can’t date these women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:31 PM
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This why most blue pillers are out of touch and too old. What you’re telling me doesn’t really apply to my life. My social circles were fairly coed through college. But post trump men and women hate each other so much that kids no longer have as many coed social spaces. You can become an independent man with good social standing among peers and never have the opportunity to meet many single women in your social sphere. And often the options are so slim that it seems inevitable that you’ll be set…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:05 PM
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Yes. I know. Men deal with dangerous male ego more than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:01 PM
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Bro I do. I have a business. Sure I’ve gotten like 3 dates out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:01 PM
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Ok so you’re just making an entirely separate point then? Just because a hilariously small percentage of men murder people who reject them doesn’t mean that women have fragile egos and lack the testosterone necessary to engage in risk taking behavior where the risk may be rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:57 PM
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lol touch grass if you think fear of murder is why women don’t initiate. Maybe if women were murdered as much as men by men then women would have as rational assessment of the threat men pose towards them as men do If I’m on a date with a woman who thinks I have to prove I’m not a criminal to her then she’s a shit date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:51 PM
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That’s literally just normal social networking. Social media is just one way to do that. lol hope no one from your club sees this hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:48 PM
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Yeah but only the addicts judge you for a lack of social media presence. And there is definitely a norm that it is ok for men to be a little less present on social media because we know that if men imitated women, they would seem narcissistic unless they are shredded to the teeth (and they often still seem narcissistic if they are in good shape). Most people do not start relationships by sliding into dms. That’s usually the second thing that happens often but it can just as often be a text. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:41 PM
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Every girl who I’ve met who is addicted to social media is dating some whipped simp who takes pictures of her while she flirts with everyone in the room while her bf just sits and smiles. Why date those cunts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:33 PM
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Women have too fragile egos to risk rejection that often especially if they perceive the man as lower value than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:30 PM
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lol that fat bitch was so mad at me after I didn’t make a move on her I have an invitation to go over to one of the other girl’s place. Her bf is some red pill meat head so might be fun to cuck him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:29 PM
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It’s a crock of shit. Every new social circle you make after 25 will be comprised mostly of couples who want to set you up with the ugly straggler This sub doesn’t seem to understand that once you reach the age where more than half of people are coupled then you can’t simply meet single people though socializing. You need to network and proactively seek other singles out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:44 PM
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All things equal bottom is still gayer but both are gay. But technically you can have a bi bottom who’s less gay then a gay top
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:30 PM
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The gender paradox: women are oppressed but if men aren’t doing categorically better economically as a gender than women then women are attracted to men When men are doing the same as women, women are like “ewww you have all the privileges in the world and the best you can do is be as good as me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:20 PM
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The amount I’ve been socializing with girls with boyfriends today has been pretty disturbing and they all have one foot in and one foot out. And they are regularly going out on the weekends. I can confidently say that more coupled women go to bars today than single women. I am convinced most people have a massive chip on their shoulder and relationships are just a facade to boost their ego. When the relationship stops boosting their ego, it is revealed how disposable this person views their part…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:17 PM
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Patriarchal traditional norms state only bottoms are gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:14 AM
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SMV is binary for women. You’re basically a one or a zero. And it doesn’t mean much if desperate men want to fuck a woman. SMV accounts for very little of a woman’s worth. Her relationship market value (RMV) is much more important and they often are either unaware of what it is or the deliberately put their head in the sand
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:02 AM
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This is the only aspect of red/black pill I sympathize with. Women are in no way the empathetic gender. They are no more or less empathetic than men. Women only have a comparative advantage in showing compassion to things that are vulnerable, and is usually a turn off for them to show that side to their partner: it’s for kids and pets
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:26 PM
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Funnily enough I think a lot of guys who say this probably just mean to say they feel like she isn’t understanding his POV, which may be the “logical” one to them. But yeah, there’s very little truly “irrational” behavior and it’s almost a more clinical/medical thing. We just often disagree about motives and goals and we say things are illogical when we don’t want to agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:44 AM
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lol you have it backwards. I pity them. I don’t want to date something I pity Also pity isn’t empathy. Women who don’t empathize just get pumped and dumped by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:08 AM
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Hahaha tl:Dr because men are entitled misogynists Yeah doesn’t look like there’s much empathy here Women just tend to assume you’re an angry virgin when maybe getting dates isn’t the problem, but rather finding dateable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:24 PM
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Trauma dumping is a result of sexism. Women often feel compelled to be emotional caretakers when in reality they should be establishing firmer boundaries about what conversations are ok or not. It’s not hard to say “hey I think it would be better to have this conversation with a professional.” But often the reality is that trauma dumping contains ancillary criticism that the listener themselves feels guilty of and that’s the actual reason why they aren’t participating in the conversation. I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:22 PM
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A lot of women are on a sort of collective ego trip at the moment. But I’d disagree that if you visited those forums that people would be surprised. I think the basement dwelling comments come from women who themselves are insecure. You have to understand that men can’t struggle in isolation. Women are getting affected by this too but they are often too proud to admit that they are struggling or they externalize their struggles to an external locus of control and society will enable them for doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:47 PM
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Because men’s issues aren’t anti feminist issues contrary to what some brain rotted people on social media think
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:32 PM
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Not true. All these men could get casual sex easily from gay men and trans people. And women view a lot of straight men with the same repulsion that straight men would have towards gay and trans people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:37 PM
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They don’t realize the same position is sex with a man. Every straight guy here could probably find a gay man looking to experiment on him. It’s a double standard and that’s why women don’t have value just because men want to fuck them. It’s not like the straight guy complaining couldn’t also fuck a guy and these men would not feel like they are worth more because a gay guy wants to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:36 PM
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Ayyyy I like this Lilith post for once Yeah basically redpill is fucked because they consider these men successful. “Chads” never fuck the girl they want to fuck. They just take advantage of the women willing to give it to them. The odds that a “betabux” is actually with a woman he likes is higher than an alpha. But I’d also argue that a lot of “betabux” (I don’t agree with the term btw) do not have partners who want them back or at least without passion. There’s obviously a balance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:32 PM
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Everyone has preferences. If you’re making your partner unhappy and you don’t care that you are making your partner unhappy then you simply don’t deserve your partner. It really is that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:22 PM
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Hahaha I’ve been rejected by women who weren’t misandrists on an ego trip. It’s no hard feelings and they don’t have a superiority complex. They communicate incompatibility not superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:09 AM
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Hahaha I am convinced that the sane heterosexual men and lesbians are going to have a bizarre coming together in the next couple years. I have already found myself talking two lesbians in just the past week about dating and they are mad about the same exact stuff. They just have a clearer head than most sex starved men so they actually have a better grasp on the psychological issues some women have today with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:07 AM
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I think I’ve taught a few ladies that the second spark isn’t actually a real spark. I think some redpill men overestimate how much men need to “escalate” in order to be physical. Imo, it’s about making the other person feel comfortable and when that person is comfortable then they test the waters. While I don’t think I would like to have sex on a first date anymore, to me that is part of the process of getting to know someone. I don’t understand the logic behind it being weird to fuck someone yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:20 PM
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I do absolutely see uglier men date prettier women tho. They are almost exclusively simps/doormats dating vain women with incredibly fragile egos even if it isn’t transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:47 PM
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Yes it’s usually just an opinion of a woman who sees a woman she thinks is attractive but she’s probably repulsed by most men so she thinks he’s ugly anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:34 PM
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The insecurity epidemic among young misandrists means they get off rejecting people who are higher value than them. They feel the act of rejection itself is what determines people’s value so these misandrist cunts think they are better than every man they reject. It’s not how normal people date. Most normal people understand that it’s about compatibility not an ego trip I honestly think we need a new word for it because it’s a combination of insecurity and narcissism (although certainly not actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:44 PM
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Women who feel this way honestly shouldn’t even consider romantic partnerships. If you depend on material things being offered to you to feel security in your personal relationships, then do it through your career, not through your romantic partnerships. You will only get men who see you as a whore if you have this perspective. Also learn that people mooching off of you is usually your fault for not setting boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:39 PM
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Women can only expect to date men who have to force themselves to like the woman from online dating. Since men’s preferences don’t matter on OLD, it causes matches to be lopsided in favor of satisfying the women’s preferences and not men’s. So you end up with men going on dates where the only reason why they are the date is because she didn’t say no. It’s very difficult for men to fall in love in this environment. Likewise behavioral anthropologists say that once you have more than 10 options, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:23 PM
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Average to below average looking people with attachment issues tend to project that romantic gestures in the early dating phase are fake and just an illusion for them to be fooled by only to be hurt later. People without attachment issues can understand that romantic gestures don’t have strings attached or implied promises of commitment. These people can enjoy themselves in the moment without their guard up and they don’t feel led on if it doesn’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:07 PM
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You probably aren’t the type players go after. Those sound like sleaze bags Players are not rejected as often as shotgun approach sleazebag douches
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:03 PM
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Why is someone who lets a women initiate less horny? I don’t consider myself a player but this is generally how I prefer having sex for the first time. I personally feel like I probably have sex sooner when dating as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:02 PM
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Yes players don’t need narcissistic manipulation to get women in bed. But they absolutely do grand romantic gestures early in dating so I’m saying they love bomb according to the stupid TikTok definition
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:41 PM
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He’s right. Players don’t risk it with a woman who doesn’t want sex back. They have options so it most likely would be insulting to them to have to push for sex. There are men with high body counts who aren’t players and yes they are sleaze bags who are pushy towards insecure women they target. Players get women to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:29 PM
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They “love bomb” but it just seems less antisocial behavior when you’re attractive. Granted post tiktok no one knows what it means any more. It basically now just means someone who is being very nice in the talking phase. Love bombing is actually a form of narcissistic manipulation that necessarily involves the narc discarding you (not ghosting) then going back to love bombing you. They create a hyperreality of kindness then they withdraw so you crave them. If they are just being nice then it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:27 PM
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No the matrix says the red pill is the truth and the blue pill is the actual conspiracy but you lie to yourself that it’s reality to maintain a facade of comfort I guess you haven’t seen the movie The redpill isn’t a conspiracy theory. It just is the truth. That’s why conspiracy theorists called themselves redpilled during Obama before it was a dating ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:57 AM
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Chad harems are a redpill invention. There were family dynasties before. And none of these “chads” hooked up with their women or even sought them out. It was due to powerful family unions and arranged marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:56 AM
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I’m not…. I’m just saying redpill/tradcon description of what motivates people is probably close to what the mainstream was post GI bill to no fault divorce (post ww2 up to 70s generally). Before that most people were just too poor and unhealthy for the dating market to not be a luxury. I guess it’s more black pill for most of history haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:49 PM
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Again that’s what you tell yourself to sleep at night. Men cheat on attractive women with uglier women all the time. And this is not generally true about men but some just can’t help themselves to spread their seed. But it’s not a judgement of the attractiveness of their current partner. That said, be mindful that if you date a man early in his career, he may want to leave the relationship so he can reassess what his options are when he is more marketable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:38 PM
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So you’re saying if you aren’t an attractive woman then you are better off treating men as disposable your self? Ugly women as a coping mechanism tell themselves the reason why they don’t have satisfying LTRs is because they aren’t pretty enough when in reality the insecurities ugly women have usually mean that ugly women on the outside are usually ugly on the inside and thats the real reason why they don’t have good relationships. Thinking you don’t need to appeal to a man’s preferences is just…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:31 PM
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??? Do you think I’m redpill or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:27 PM
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The matrix didn’t present dating philosophies And redpill was a term used for a while before it became exclusively known to be a dating philosophy. It used to be used as a nice term for conspiracy theorists to refer to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:59 PM
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Agreed. I tell men that subtle signs don’t mean anything and that women will let you know clearly when it matters. And yes I don’t ask them out on a second date. It’s a strange vibe. I’m sure some are gold diggers but for a lot of them it just feels like pure ego trip
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:04 AM
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There are other ways to get men to try to like you. You’re clearly projecting that men who want women to step it up are looking for a mommy replacement. This is a common coping mechanism I see among women who think like this Point is that standoffish women with the “impress me” attitude only end up with men who see them as disposable. If you want a more mutually reciprocating relationship then you’re going to have to put effort in even at the talking phase
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:47 AM
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It’s bad advice. The advice that should be given to women is try to get men to like you. Do things for a guy that will make him like you more so he sees you as more than a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:33 AM
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Blue pill is a reaction to redpill. It’s not mainstream at all. Blue pill is weird in just saying the current dating market has been how dating works for thousands of years. I’d argue pre no fault divorce, redpill was probably the closest “pill” to getting mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:26 AM
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I’m confused, how do you know someone isn’t looking for work after one date? Did they say they are unemployed and not looking for work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:56 PM
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🌈🌈Friendship🌈🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:42 PM
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I’ve seen young people use conditional and transactional synonymously. Horrifying. The ability to love unconditionally is still absolutely a requirement for me to want to start a family with you. Doesn’t mean I need it, but children do I think this is also a semantic issue. If you aren’t loving the partner how they need, are you really “loving” them? Sure you can claim you feel love, but love as verb with intersubjectively agreed terms is true love imo and not just a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:15 PM
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I don’t personally think so, but sadly I think this dynamic is in full swing. Pseudo feminist women take redpill nowadays on its face that it’s how the average man thinks, which is why dating women like this nowadays is barely worth it. They’re just going to assume you’re a POS that subscribes to at least some redpill philosophy now you have awful dates trying to prove why you aren’t a misogynist. Talking phases rn are a shit show bc of this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:13 PM
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This is because fathers are relieved when they pass on their parasite daughter onto a new host. In a way, if accountability was traditionally taught to women then this could potentially be a liability to the father if she doesn’t lift herself from her bootstraps. It’s safer to put your bets on the son and hope your daughter gets hitched.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:10 AM
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To balance it out, I do this. I dress up for no reason a lot. Being overdressed can often be a flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:17 PM
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Don’t be transactional. You need to communicate to women that your romantic offer is a take it or leave it deal. And that there are no consequences if they leave it. If they don’t want it, that shouldn’t upset you and you can still continue to have a pleasant interaction after a rejection believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:16 PM
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Groping. It is too common. Like my ass at this point is numb to it. You could pinch it and I might not notice. I am sensitive everywhere and else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:13 PM
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lol makes no difference unless you think context somehow has a different effect on each gender. Women who think x interaction is ok depending on the location are socially inept. I seriously think at this point only ND folks or people with social anxiety think that bars and clubs are somehow a flirt zone that changes the meaning of your words depending which side of the door you are on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:14 PM
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The women who say you should only flirt at bars/clubs are actually the socially inept ones
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:05 PM
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Reduced domestic burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:57 AM
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Ok I don’t know my girth but probably similar to you. I never thought I was particularly above average as I thought 6 inches was the average but apparently that’s not true and porn probably has skewed what we think the average penis looks like. I find that a lot of women have eyes bigger than their stomach so to speak. Granted I have just generally ended up with women who feel strongly about penetration. I’ve only been with one girl of over a dozen who was able to totally take me in without me h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:53 PM
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That has been a crazy trend. Basically women have been getting this slow dose of redpill and are starting to feel insecure about things men often feel insecure about. Having strong cheekbones and jaw was usually a man’s insecurity. But I’m seeing mewing tutorials for girls on Instagram now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:35 PM
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Yeah there’s basically a culture of bimbos with cringe greasy boyfriends who finance luxury purchases using credit and awful interest rates but they “look” rich which is all that matters do the dumb bimbos bc they just need the photo op.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:31 PM
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Even just significant weight loss. There are girls who thirst over a skeleton cillian Murphy but most guys feel sorry for Ariana grande.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:23 PM
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Yeah and it’s a niche fetish that’s never been more popular lol https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2023-year-in-review
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:22 PM
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Just because mommy porn existed doesn’t mean it dominated cultural consciousness. So you’re saying zoomers need to invent new kinks for them to be kinky? Zoomers are wayyyyy more into mommy porn than the French were.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:12 PM
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Imo the wall is the fact that women produce a finite amount of eggs and men can produce sperm indefinitely albeit at greater levels of defects. The wall doesn’t affect a woman’s SMV much as there still will be desperate men who want to sleep with them. But women’s RMV declines considerably if she hasn’t already started a family before 37. Women who don’t want to be moms don’t really need to give a fuck tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:07 PM
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Older women literally need marketing campaigns and body positivity movements to feel the same level of confidence many older men have had for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:05 PM
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Yes but zoomers have the whole internet to draw from as inspiration. I’m not really disagreeing with you though, I’m just saying they are unique. Like the prevalence of mommy porn is obviously due to the consumption of porn by virgin zoomer men with emasculation incest fantasies. These coomer boys have probably only seen their mom naked. The porn was different. And if anything zoomers are lazy about making their kinks a reality. If anything the kinks exist so they can cope with an unsatisfying r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:00 PM
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It’s not about women’s preferences. Men don’t want to date older women. And men have a much stronger preference against dating older women than women do against older men even if generally they don’t. But just looking at these lists, I feel like men have to do a lot less work than women to look like how they looked when they were younger. They just are a salt and peppery version of their younger selves. Women depend a lot on collagen and staying toned so their curves don’t sag. Men generally mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:54 PM
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Zoomers have kinks due to their sexual repression. A lot of them have gotten pretty old without much experience so antisocial kinks have started to fill the void of the lack of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:47 PM
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FYI women who are like this are usually just shit testing you to see if you get upset. They have a laundry list of cock blocks and turn offs they will throw at you and as soon as you seem to not be enjoying it they’ll go “aha he’s a bad guy” I recommend you slight these women as subtly as you can then ditch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:38 PM
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Casual sex has been a pretty steep decline since the early 2010s Gen x and early millenials were the kinkiest generations
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:25 PM
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It’s not blunt to say “witnesses.” It’s rude. to assume someone is a predator when you have no evidence. It’s also just bizzare to talk to someone like that you might go on a date on. It doesn’t exactly set the mood
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:21 PM
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Do you not have dates at night lol Like do you look up the weather and if visibility is low are you like nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:18 PM
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It’s bad to become friends with someone you know you are already attracted in hopes they will change their mind. And that’s why so many young people are shit. They don’t admit feelings of attraction in the moment. They let it fester then it gets awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:09 PM
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Criminals breed. There’s a significantly large portion of couples who are just pieces of shit made for each other. And yes “nice” people turn these pieces of shit off. A lot of nice guys legitimately have the same mentality some “chads” have: don’t value women for what they don’t give you. This makes attractive men seem confident and it encourages women to chase him down. The same mentality in a man who is unattractive to women comes off as a man who is selfish and lazy. If he isn’t outstandingl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:48 PM
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https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2017/08/fathers-of-american-newborns-keep-getting-older.html 9% of all births are fathered by men over 40 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:44 PM
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Isolated echo chambers create red pilled misogynists and misandrist pseudo feminists. What’s new.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:24 PM
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No doubt men have fucked things (apple pie already mentioned) but you might be right that it’s not inanimate objects that men like to hate fuck. Although I guess you could hate fuck some kind of effigy of someone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:17 PM
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No it’s not analogous. Men absolutely can and regularly do have kids at an older age than women. Men who have kids in their 40s are no less good parents. Women getting pregnant in their 40s is risky Women produce a finite amount of eggs. Women who think men’s prime child rearing years end as early as women are just in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:15 PM
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“Agree” is a shorter word than “circlejerk” It’s a politicized word on Reddit that your mod team probably gets a kick out of using.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:08 PM
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Why would a single woman move from her place to her mother in law’s basement? Why would a man let a woman who lives with her parents move in with him? I’m just saying the reason why men make more money than women despite owning fewer homes is because men tend to be more frugal. Women living with their parents should be dating men who live with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:40 PM
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Yes that’s my point. I think you should have this be your reply to the deleted comment. And calling it circle jerking is flaming. Just say “only comments that challenge OP are allowed in debate posts. Reply to auto mod if you want to agree.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:08 PM
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Wealthy men do not make flashy irresponsible purchases to attract parasitic women who themselves don’t know much about how finances work. These dumb women will date a guy who has financed his BMW with a 12% interest rate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:02 PM
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No it’s about equal with I think slightly more men wanting to be fathers than women want to be mothers. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/15/poll-most-men-aspire-to-be-dads/2427123/# “About 8 in 10 fathers surveyed said they always knew they wanted to have children, compared with about 7 in 10 mothers, and 69 percent of dads called that long-standing desire to have children an important factor in their decision to have kids.” So if you’re a woman who can’t find a man who wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:58 PM
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No these men can afford to, but they’d choose to have more cash than pay a mortgage. Men earn more than women on average. Women are more willing to have more financial liabilities in order to secure a particular quality of life. Men tend to be more financially shrewd than women so they tend to have more money than women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:55 PM
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Well I didn’t say men don’t love to fuck things they love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:42 PM
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Ehh calling it circle jerking just because you agree is flaming. The rule makes sense, but you’re basically saying “if you want to circle jerk then make a discussion post.” Like that seems a little anal. But redirect them to the mod reply if they want to “circle jerk”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:39 PM
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Slightly more women than men feel this way statistically I believe. It’s not no big deal to get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:37 PM
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No most men will not try to start a family with a woman over 37. It tends to be come transactional after that age. Old fart dating an attractive woman in her 40s is probably transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:35 PM
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Usually never more than once though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:32 PM
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Bold of you to think single moms are paying for everything…. Women are also widowed at a higher rate which affects home ownership stats. Apart from that, it’s usually preference. Men prefer more liquidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:31 PM
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Men love to fuck things they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:26 PM
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Yes but more men can support themselves and a family than women 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:23 PM
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Feminism did not have as graceful a transition as other academic fields post social media. You have psychologists debunking awful mental health advice on tiktok but gender studies folks are completely silent when it comes to gender dialogue online. They haven’t even admitted yet that it is a problem. Male mental health crisis started in the 90s, and I think similar thing happened to women post trump because the atomization of coed third spaces led to girls deteriorating socially. It wasn’t the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:55 PM
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I have never relied on texting as a primary means of communicating in a relationship. So I just don’t use texting as a way to gage convo chemistry. I only have in depth personal conversations irl or over the phone. For me, texting is mostly used for logistical reasons. Do I share memes on social media? Yeah but only after I’m friends with you. It seems like people want to share memes with strangers to see if they have chemistry and I feel like that is just not how I socialize. Also I have met pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:57 PM
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Please just ignore those women. They aren’t worth your time. Anyone who needs more than 2 convos to feel comfortable meeting up has trust and or attachment issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:50 PM
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People want to get what they want purely by existing. People today sadly have been programmed to feel humiliated by trying to get someone to like them. People want their SO to fall into their lap without them having to show vulnerability or make attempts to do nice gestures. It’s just “I know my value” which is a fancy way of saying you’re insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:48 PM
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Attractive men only have it happen sooner to them. It’s just generally true that if you are attractive then people trust you sooner. But unattractive men can earn trust the same and receive “clear signals.” But I just think in general that men confuse their own sexual attraction with interest. No one should expect a stranger to be interested off the bat. They MAY be attracted but that isn’t even a given. Many women do not feel instant attraction toward any guy no matter his looks. That just mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:27 PM
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I agree that non predators are better than predators but I do think the culture before was better because those men were empowered by their sexuality rather than their sexuality merely being a thing for women to ogle. How these men behaved around women and what they did to women made them sexy rather than just how they presented to women. I think as long as male sex symbols remain passive objects, I think this means we will see male sexuality as inherently predatory. The DILF thing is weird but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:00 PM
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lol everyone here who thinks blue pill=normal 😂 Blue pill is a reaction to redpill. Both ideologies offer mainstream advice with redpill emphasizing external material things and blue pill interior personality things. But both make wild assumptions about how each gender should behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:40 PM
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There’s two sides to this coin imo: We absolutely need male sex symbols, however after the 90s about, being a male sex symbol almost implies that you’re an object for handsy cougars. I think that’s because the previous male sex symbols probably were predatory in a way, but they also had agency and authority. They were sex symbols due to their actions and weren’t passive recipients of a label. Pedro pascal is a sex symbol basically because he’s wholesome and trustworthy, which I think is an awful…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:24 PM
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D’Angelo arguably had his career end short due to his sexualization. I think we more readily sexualize women but I do think men who are made out to be sex symbols today are often alienated more by it. I genuinely feel that men can no longer empower themselves by their sexuality or at least not as public personas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:03 PM
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But I don’t think the cause of my issues and the people you have in mind are all that different. Just a matter of degree. I think there have been somewhat specific gender mental health crises. For boys it started in the 90s (with lots of hysteria about ADD etc. going into columbine), but I’d say it’s possible that there is a more girl specific mental health crisis that is starting post trump into Covid. While I do think there has been a lot of awareness of incels and male loneliness (and not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:13 AM
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I think that’s just body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:53 PM
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I find a common thread among men in their early 20s who feel this way and they often say “I don’t see what the big deal is” after getting into their first serious relationship. You can hypothesize all you want but there is always going to be a guy who does everything you say but will still struggle. It’s just a just world fallacy. And imo it comes from men who put women on pedestals because they feel that a woman’s choice is always the right one. I’ve been in 3 LTRs with the shortest being 2 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:51 PM
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Can I ask how many LTRs you’ve been in total? And how many breakups have you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:32 PM
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Both blue and red pill are ideologies of projection. There is no discussion beyond the fact that testosterone enhances libido in men AND women. And men can have similar levels of estradiol as women in a healthy range although women can have much more, but testosterone is still the more potent hormone for libido. So women’s libido is still largely controlled by a “male” hormone, which men make more of. Everything else is just anecdotes. Women do not have a refractory period so women can have more…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:41 AM
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I mean I’m sure there are women who are more awkward and poorer than him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:40 PM
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OP has money too apparently. Elon definitely attracts women who think his ambitions are genuine (and they may very well be even though he is a narc and is antisocial with his projects)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:09 PM
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We are talking about OP not Elon Why do you think OP is ugly like Elon? Elon probably is just on the spectrum and that’s what OP is referring to. I dunno if that means OP thinks Tesla is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:08 PM
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Why do you think this sub cares whether you think Elon is ugly or not? He has no problems attracting women so this is just some conversation you’re having to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:54 PM
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The commenter I replied to and I are talking about OP not Elon. Why do you think the guy in OP is anything like Elon? Elon musk gets women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:53 PM
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Only 20-25% of women even consider “just sex” as an option. This is the real 80/20 rule btw although it’s probably more like 75% as it’s probably the case that on the margins women who hookup will do it with more than one man but statistically most women who hookup even only do one hookup in life. So most men just don’t get to experience this with women. And women mostly do it with men their own age when they are younger. And if you are older and looking for a younger woman to do this with, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:38 PM
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Your friend isn’t socially awkward. He is stunted in expressing himself romantically/sexually. If he was socially awkward, then he wouldn’t have founded a company. It would be absurd of your friend to take any judgements about his social skills seriously from people who don’t have his qualifications because he obviously has social skills but is just nervous. Women’s ick radar is so poorly calibrated today that they see nervous energy as a terrorist waiting in line at TSA
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:27 PM
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Yeah OP should show this stuff to his friend just to show how wildly judgemental women can be based off of little to no information. They will also assume your friend has some degree of misogyny due to the fact that he’s been single for so long despite seemingly having qualifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:23 PM
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It’s wild how women go to more therapy than men yet are still more insecure than men: https://news2.rice.edu/2014/02/10/is-height-important-in-matters-of-the-heart-new-study-says-yes/ “13.5 percent of the men wanted to date only women shorter than they are. In contrast, nearly half of the women – 48.9 percent – wanted to date only men taller than they are.” What weak creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:20 PM
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Women don’t see men the same after the first horny man thirsts for her. They project this pseudo trauma onto most men who show interest in them after that first dude who made them feel uncomfortable. Or they had a breakup they lack self awareness the extent to which the bad relationship was their own fault so they will have irrational associations with behaviors their ex did that they see other guys do when often there is little connection between the behavior they are suspicious of and the bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:42 PM
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I’m confusing marriage satisfaction with divorce. Age gap relationships across the board do not last as long but those currently in them report higher satisfaction: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6785043/ I think small age gap relationships will always have some inherent advantage because women’s best child rearing years do not correlate with when men peak in their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:31 PM
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have had and the number is higher but it’s skewed because apparently they are very common in homosexual couples. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/age-gap-dating “Nearly four in ten (39%) have previously dated someone with an age difference of 10+ years. Men are more likely to have dated someone 10+ years younger than them compared to women (25% vs. 14%). “
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:18 PM
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I agree. They are mostly transactional. I do recall however reading stats that age gap marriages tend to work out well. That said I do think most people feel men in their mid 30s probably are lost attractive. This is also when athletes tend to peak. There is a trade off between youth and development. I think some women do peak in their 30s but not as many as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:13 PM
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I think the stat is almost a quarter of relationships have a 10+ year age gap and most of those are with an older man. But those relationships are doomed to fail more often although I think there may be exceptions to that. Women can say all the anecdotes they want but if women’s smv didn’t decline more with age relative to men then we’d have men lining up to fuck old women but they aren’t meanwhile there are lots of women who do go for older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:58 PM
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Social media has programmed some people to be repulsed by things that aren’t manicured. You could only indirectly lower their standards by dismantling their vanity and showing how they have narrow beauty standards. I have a few insta model type friends who think bolt on tits look good. Post bimbofication era, lots of women have an awful eye for aesthetics. They often see kardashian types as “authorities” on beauty and fashion even though they promote a very shallow beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:54 PM
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Finding a woman who is worth spending the rest of your life with isn’t solved by being attractive. Plenty of attractive men can fuck dozens of women and none of them would make a good wife. And then an inexperienced guy can still find just one woman who is more wife material than the 20+women that the attractive guy had sex with. It is not simply a numbers game because the type of woman being attracted is different in each example. The means of attracting a woman for just sex and the means of at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:29 PM
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Bruh I literally went on the first date I’ve been on in almost 2 years and couple weeks ago. Most of people who are DTF within a short time span are not people who you want to be around. Redpill act as if men don’t regret some of their bodies either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:20 PM
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I’m literally at this point trying to find my wife before my n count gets too high. They think men can just collect bodies and women don’t mind that. If my n count goes much over 20 then women will start to think I have commitment issues or am a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:14 PM
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Lol how do you know not only once that a guy had a threesome but has regular threesomes with women he just met at a store? Do you follow this guy home and look through the window? And do you do this often enough that you know he does it on the “regular?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:50 PM
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So you’re saying that women are in a conspiracy with each other to not out each other by putting their real numbers down on a survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:46 PM
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Then chads also lie about their harems. Can’t have one without the other. You do realize surveys are confidential? Women who put down their body count on surveys aren’t telling their friends and family. What incentive do they have to lie when there is no social penalty to being honest on a survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:30 PM
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I’m not as cynical but I do feel that the “problem” is OURSELVES not “tHE eConOmY” Am basically seeing that the majority of couples under 30 (well maybe around half by age 30) are all “one foot in one foot out” type deals. I see way less PDA than I did just before Covid. People today are too cynical to enjoy themselves. They are constantly presuming the worse, responds to conflict by being two faced (lots of fake appeasing while they form their personal opinions on their own), and there is a hor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:29 PM
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“THEY LIE ON THE SURVEYS” is one of my favorite copes. Most women who do hookups do it once then they are like “ok I did that experience so no need to do it again.” Or it’s just a bad experience, which it tends to be on average. I also find that people confuse high libido with high body count. They are not necessarily the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:14 PM
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I stopped fucking my ex after I got a puppy and I was doing all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:30 PM
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Because horny isn’t an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:25 PM
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“Landwhales are disgusting” = falsifiable statement “Landwhales disgust me” = preference
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:13 PM
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Til horny=irritable yelling
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:08 PM
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“It means what i think, not what my son thinks”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:58 PM
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Munchausen by proxy incoming
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:17 AM
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As I’ve already said, because such a woman will still think because no one wants to fuck OP while at least someone wants to fuck me then that’s better than nothing, which is all OP has
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:35 AM
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It is literally just a hypothetical woman who is basically just the female version of OP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:33 AM
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Ok I understand you meant if women hypothetically complained about the same thing…. But obviously they don’t. A woman who only has shitty options of men who won’t commit to her is basically worth just as much as an incel. And women complain all the time that men just want sex and no commitment even though men and women want commitment at the same rate. And often half the incels who are desperate to fuck them would get tired of these women anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:00 AM
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Because these women think they are better than guys like OP just because guys like OP want to fuck them (FYI I don’t. I’m not crying over spilt milk here). But they literally are equally low life. One is just full of cum and probably a little dumber
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:53 AM
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What’s men’s fault? I’m having trouble keeping up with what pet theories you think these frustrated dudes tell themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:51 AM
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Point being you can be a 33 yo woman with bad hair, short, lives with parents and works as a barista and is addicted to benzos and vaping, barely verbal and she will have more options than OP. And OP probably is less entitled than women like that to boot When are women going to learn that you don’t have value just because lonely incels want to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:42 AM
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So you’re saying men aren’t monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:34 AM
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I think toxic dating norms exist precisely because it’s a way for people to get what they want without having to worry about sticking yourself out there and risking being vulnerable to someone who doesn’t reciprocate. I see people who are in committed relationships nowadays for months who I almost feel still carry “talking phase anxiety” into the relationship itself. There’s never a point where they let their hair down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:41 PM
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Most people who think this probably showed vulnerability to someone who betrayed them. Imo it’s a sign of weakness that you feel left hung up to dry after showing vulnerability. Learn to be vulnerable without demanding reciprocation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:23 PM
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I would also say that most people who accuse others of trauma dumping (yes trauma dumping exists) are probably people who thrive off of trauma bonding. They are usually people who are very guarded about their vulnerabilities and insecurities so if you can talk about them freely, you are taking away their “bonding” moment. They get off feeling “unsafe” having insecurities and project a fantasy partner that will make them feel comfortable enough to get out of their shell when they should really be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:59 PM
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I think the extreme social isolation of zoomers has led them to normalize this “dog eat dog” mentality when it comes to making new connections as well as extreme measures to preserve ego. It’s seen as “cringe” to be nice to someone you haven’t decided you liked yet and if you are nice to someone you don’t know you like yet then you are “leading them on.” As a result, casual banter and flirting is almost no longer a thing anymore as reciprocating flirtation is seen as signaling definite interest.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:54 PM
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Yeah I’d agree that most people unwilling to show the vulnerability necessary for a meaningful LTR are because they are guarded due to past relationship trauma. I’d also say that a lot of people adopt bad communication norms in the talking phases because they think the general norms are “good” when imo the only people who are good in the talking stages are the ones who defy norms
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:43 PM
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I honestly don’t know where to start. The subset of women who need “big dick” and rely on penetration are some of worst lovers out there. Most women don’t cum from PIV no matter how big you are. MOST women will experience discomfort with penises above 6 inches. Most women will just nope out to dicks over 8 inches. I have literally only been with one woman who’s cervix I couldn’t hit from most positions. It gets old quick making women cum from just penetration. It is basically exhausting and most…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:04 AM
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I’ve always said AFBB is false. It’s unmarried alphas fuck and married beta bux cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:58 PM
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I’m seeing lots of younger men tolerating verbal abuse from women because they don’t seem to know better/don’t have a lot of experience. They just think it’s normal that women act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:54 PM
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Imo men are much better at assessing the threat from other men than women. Women are better evolutionary adapted to sense threats toward other vulnerable things (eg women exhibit more compassion). But in terms of sheer risk assessment and self preservation: men are much more adapted to this hence why women have so many false positives with red flags that appeal to their “women’s intuition” rather than hard empirical evidence. And often the women’s intuition is what blindsides them to IPV. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:40 PM
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lol ok gonna have to agree to disagree on that one. No diagnosis is made until the psychologist/psychiatrist puts it in their chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:33 PM
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I don’t really understand your English here. I’m saying if you think someone in your family or a close friend needs mental health services, you can talk to a professional yourself and give your account of their behavior and then they can advise you on what to do from there. Fairly normal procedure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:31 PM
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People who do interventions without consulting a third party medical professional opinion first are indeed toxic af
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:26 PM
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Although I would say that unless you are a medical professional yourself, communicating to someone that you think they are “unstable” borders on irresponsible arm chair psychology. It’s a weird thing to tell someone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:47 PM
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I agree with that and even suggested doing so with language I feel is appropriate. I’m just saying that’s often not what people intend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:45 PM
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It’s a late start but there are people who explicitly seek it out: My sister married a man entering the peak of his career so that when she had kids, it was optimal from a resource perspective. She had enough kids at a young age that by the time they are all in college, she will still have time to peak in her career. And then she will be peaking as he is retiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:23 PM
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Hahaha literally every woman I talk to about my sister’s husband to (who I’m not obviously dating ofc) is like “does he have any friends?” Had their 3rd kid when he was 44. It’s not like men stop making swimmers after 37
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:09 PM
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Most people who say “go to therapy” are just trying to say they think you’re unstable without being rude but it is incredibly rude and they have no self awareness. But many are self aware and just want to get away with insulting you while having plausible deniability that they are actually being nice. Granted saying “hey I don’t think I’m the right person to help you with this, have you considered professional mental health services?” is not rude at all but that’s not what people say lol And oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:04 PM
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My sister married someone 40 when she was 23. There are a decent supply of men who are fit, have good hygiene and well off in their 40s. There are very few men in their 20s with all the same boxes ticked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:29 PM
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Just a casual observation but the amount of controlling behavior and lack of PDA among younger couples is starting to be disturbing to me. Trust is what sets boundaries. Flirting was not a boundary in some of my past relationships (well reciprocating flirting we were ok with). She wasn’t going to cheat on me and I didn’t worry about it and it never happened in that 6 year LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:26 PM
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“tHeY LiEd” I’m learning is the redpill cope. And most probably lie or exaggerate their success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:21 PM
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They learned to do a big brain move and rationalize to themselves why they aren’t getting laid because they know how women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:20 PM
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I personally think most people remember instances of sex over assessing the individual. Plenty of “high performers” can be lazy and inconsistent. People tend to remember extreme details. Last two LTRs I was told I was the best (well one said in general and the other said penetration). I don’t consider that to be a result of my performance but simply conditioning from being with women who have similar preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:24 PM
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I mean just from this comment thread you can see women tend to have more fragile egos than incel types. Incel types often feel like they have nothing to lose. Incels will humiliate themselves basically telling their own insecurities but anonymous women can’t even say they wish they weren’t as fat as they are. A lot of it isn’t just a fragile ego as well. Women don’t want to be seen as judgemental or vain for having insecurities about things they are being told to accept themselves and others for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:03 PM
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It more has to do with the fact that insecure women feel disgusted whenever a man they perceive as lower value than themselves makes accurate criticisms. Some women create a fake reality to insulate their egos where people they perceive as low value are always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:53 PM
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Exactly. Girl boss culture has become a coping mechanism for women with low self esteem. And often they redirect their self loathing toward men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:50 PM
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I call it little brother ick syndrome hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:51 AM
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I lost my virginity as a sophomore in high school. When I grew up, you were considered a loser if you went to college a virgin. It’s not like that anymore. I think some women (and some young men) don’t care about young love as much as other people but it does seem like there’s an entire chunk of the young adult sexual experience that is being removed from people’s upbringings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:23 AM
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Based on the simple fact that more men use Reddit that women, even if the male sample isn’t representative, you will still get a broader range of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:21 AM
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It’s actually sexist toward both men and women. It enforces the notion that women who have sex soon are low value and that men are heartless people who can’t see themselves committing to women who they have immediate chemistry with. It’s bizzare when you think about: do women seriously think men go “aww man this woman was gonna be the one. I saw a future with her. But aw shit she fucked me too soon so scratch that plan.” Like wtf? Do you actually think that? And why on earth would you want to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:21 PM
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People who associate timing of sex with human worth are fucked in the head? I had sex on the first date in the last two of my LTRs. Yes I’d wait longer now, but if you’re thinking “I’m gonna make em wait so I know it’s real” then you’re are just coping/have a vain perspective on sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:56 PM
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I feel sorry as fuck for these unloveable women. They are just not going to have authentic and genuine fulfilling relationships in life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:14 AM
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It says in 55% of marriages, the husband is the breadwinner and in 16% of marriages, the wife is the breadwinner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:12 AM
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This is actually why you find that when upper class men are divorced, it is often the woman who is socially ostracized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:02 AM
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This is a cope for women who make sexist generalizations about men and probably feel embarrassed or humiliated by the things that are necessary to make their partner happy. Too many women act as if men just want LTRs for pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:34 PM
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Women are creeped out by male transactional attention. If you are flirting as a means to an end before you know the woman agrees on having a “sexual end” then you are by definition a presumptuous creep. This isn’t redpill. If you flirt because you enjoy flirting and your compliment is genuine then it’s fine. When I give women compliments, they are almost spontaneous often because it is my authentic feeling in the moment. I may even not want to have more of a conversation after that but if she re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:12 PM
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The extreme margins imo are where the weight becomes a deal breaker. I think most people are fine dating someone overweight and even obese folks on a case by case basis. My last ex had a 28 bmi at her highest and she just had really wide hips. Two points off of obese but if she had any muscle then she would be obese but she’d still be attractive to me. Her shoulders were bony and her clavicles were prominent. Other example: I know a guy who was very fit but got diabetes and became obese. He has …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:19 PM
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Probably a good way to put it. And honestly unattractive men also get sex all time and usually more consistently (but across fewer bodies) than unattractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:10 PM
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So I see red and blue pill as prescriptive and they advocate a philosophy of life. Both philosophies I find to be incomplete and also involve painting the world in broad strokes Black and white pill are descriptive. White pill is kind of the descriptive version of blue pill: the notion that people who deserve to be loved find it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjN5GPAVDnY So Michael is an ancap and not redpilled (he wrote articles for ru Paul’s drag race). I disagree with him that only the chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:08 PM
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Ironically I think people who give lots of unrequited affection in the honeymoon phase can be one sign. Like if a girl was constantly trying to give me head or handjobs early in the relationship, it would set off major alarm bells, especially if she is like “no I’m good” if I ask to return the favor. It would feel like she’s trying to bribe me. Concern about whether sex is reciprocal is a good sign, but also very same attitude is a stumbling block imo. I think a long healthy sex life involves bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:00 PM
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Give her orgasms Do laundry and dishes Share child rearing responsibilities and actively assess your wife’s load. While I don’t think passive aggression is ok behavior, I still think you can respond to passive aggressive women with sympathy then bring up their attitude later. Foreplay is whenever you’re not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:53 PM
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Narcissistic women want simps. I thought this dynamic was fucked up but these people want each other
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:49 PM
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People with low self esteem choose shitty people on purpose. A lot of women have low self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:42 PM
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Mmm I think “fuckable” and “attractive” have overlap but aren’t the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:31 PM
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While I like “ice spice,” but the lyric “she a 10, she know she a baddie” is kind of an example of the crappy “girl boss” culture that’s popular right now. I see it as toxic self acceptance. If you feel insecure then just tell yourself you’re “perfect” then problem solved. Now there is vague narcissistic behavior from young women who probably are insecure but are covering it up with this “girl boss” facade
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:25 PM
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It’s just a general policy for women who are more than 2 points below my looksmatch at this point. It’s gotten to the point now where girls on tinder dates know they aren’t attractive enough so they already kind of know a hookup is about as much as they are going to get and I can tell that they are deciding whether nothing or a hookup is better. If women want to know where they stand lookswise, just see how attractive the men are who actively bargain for a committed relationship with you. It’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:19 PM
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I’ve been with women who were worse than pocket pussies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:16 PM
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Rarely do they fuck them more than once then these landwhales have the audacity to think these men “used” them 🤮🤮🤮🤮 EDIT: And I’m sure some women reading this think this makes me a gross douche but men who do this literally do nothing wrong. They aren’t lying like many women think. Women who expect a relationship from a man who is clearly better looking than her is actually just entitled and lacks self awareness and is only going to grow up being bitter about men and the more bitter she is the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:13 PM
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lol “just make him wait” Thread full of women still with their hookup:
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:06 PM
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💀💀💀💀 Predictable women are predictable. Many women act the way redpill men think but then redpill men cherry-pick and have observer bias
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:05 PM
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6.9% of the US male population is severely obese. 11.5% of the female population is severely obese. That’s almost 2x as many severely obese women as severely obsese men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:04 PM
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Honeymoon phase
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:13 AM
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Hahaha I’m saving this one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:34 AM
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I’m personally not redpilled but I definitely do think some men have access to a sexual marketplace that other men often don’t experience in their lifetime. And yeah being on the other side of the fence makes you think about why you have access to that that experience and others don’t and assuming superficial things often is what feels like the right explanation. My n count is fairly above average for my age and I do feel I have had drastically different experiences from most other men. Do I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:28 PM
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The rates sexual partners still carries over to total amount of partners over a lifetime. Literally from the study: “There appears to be a cultural shift between generations, with those aged 60 and over having an average of three sexual partners in their lifetime compared to those aged 40 to 59 whose claims average to six partners, and those aged 30-39 averaging five.” So how is it that older people have had fewer partners? It’s simply projected that it peaked with Gen x and total number of part…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:35 PM
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My experience is often that a shoulder to cry on is a dick to ride on
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:24 PM
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I’ve only ever had one date overlap because if I meet someone I like more, I don’t keep seeing the person I like less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:22 PM
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Compared to how the rest of Reddit “debates,” absolutely lol It’s just a bunch of teens/preteens with diapers full of shit more or less on the rest of Reddit Absolutely fascinating to see people attempt to defend how people have “discussions” on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:14 PM
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Most women on OF are just idiots blackballing themselves probably because they believe redpill idiots who say they can live off being an OF creator
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:58 PM
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How about you lol. This is literally just 2 min of googling. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/sVm4ezBq4O
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:56 PM
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How is “you’re an incel” a point/argument? But yeah there is a hilarious amount of the pot calling the kettle black
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:48 PM
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Average Uber driver makes like orders of magnitude more than the average OF creator
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:43 PM
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lol how old are you? Gen x was most promiscuous. https://psmag.com/social-justice/and-the-prize-for-promiscuity-goes-to-generation-x
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:27 PM
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But tbh I was just curious and decided to look up a survey done by yougov from Britain which said: “The study also broke down results by age range and found that people between the ages of 18-29 admit to an average of one sexual partner. Apparently all that banter we heard in uni halls may have been blustering. Generation X (those born between 1960-1980) boast the highest number with an average of six, while their parents' generation – the baby boomers – have an average of three, suggesting a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:21 PM
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Congratulations for arguing against some point you imagine I made that I actually didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:09 PM
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I didn’t say PPD is a men’s space. I’m saying often the women who participate here have an obsession with them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:12 AM
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I’m 6’3 and I do think it helps a little bit. Literally when I go to bar it means that a girl can find me just by scanning the room
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:10 AM
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It’s no different than shitty LGTBq counterprotestors who make signs with arrows saying “tiny dick.” Rather than seeming like a progressive open minded person, you seem like a bitter body shamer (virgin shamer I guess too). You’re like “oh you’re patriarchal so I’m gonna patriarchy right back at you” and it’s so fucking hamfisted. Would like to see people rise above this trash but people have a rage fetish You can just say misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:02 AM
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The topic of male loneliness is always posed as a binary by bigots. Either men have 100% internal locus of control and all their suffering is their own fault or it’s woe is me and there’s only external locus of control and all their suffering is someone else’s fault. The answer is obviously in the middle but people are too misandrist/misogynistic to have a reasonable discussion. It’s like each side thinks if they give an inch then they lose the war. A lot of its pride. There are men and women un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:54 AM
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Discussed and dismantled. There are more redpillers who have their beliefs challenged here than all of Reddit because Reddit thinks that redpillers share their insecurities and that they can be laughed or ignored out of existence. Redpillers have other insecurities. They aren’t as offended by brigading and downvotes as some other terminally online people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:47 AM
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lol PPD absolutely is unhinged but they just don’t share the toxic “I dont agree with you so fuck you incel” culture that the rest of Reddit seems to endorse so in that way PPD is absolutely more close to real world discussions. It’s mostly angry fat and trans women who think it’s normal girate “incel” on repeat and they tend to congregate on Reddit more than the average woman. Reddit isn’t normal because there aren’t many regular women here. Women don’t use Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:17 AM
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Absolutely, It’s prejudiced to assume redpill spaces are representative of how men feel generally. And some women use this to rationalize why they haven’t had quality relationships because they think they have to stoop to the level of redpill men to have a relationship when in reality they probably just are not likeable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:15 AM
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What does a post’s popularity have to do with its neutrality? For instance: the US election is practically “neutral” (yes we can debate this and gerrymandering is a problem), but we can accept that we have fair elections that yield bigoted results like Trump. That doesn’t mean because Trump got elected that the election system isn’t neutral. Imo it becomes toxic once moderators start perma banning people they don’t agree with and preventing people from commenting and deleting comments without co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:11 AM
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This only creates mutual dismissal. Keep at it and trump might get re elected lol When you laugh at people they also think you are being ridiculous. I prefer to criticize and persuade over laughing because I actually care about there being less misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:04 AM
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Yep and sorry to tell you, that is prejudiced. Women need to talk to men and actually ask them how they feel before you go on the internet. But women even go on PPD and ignore 90% of the reasonable things men say then cherry pick the one little misogynist fascist then pretend that’s male nature as if male nature is monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:57 PM
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No Reddit is out of touch from the real world and PPD is more similar to how normal people have debates and conversations. We just have debates and conversations about topics that are very controversial and divisive. Most people don’t care about mocking incels they don’t know are incels. That’s just what terminally online weirdos on Reddit do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:54 PM
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I believe you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:54 PM
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But as others mentioned: That toxicity exists EVERYWHERE. This just happens to be one of the only places where you can air it out and hopefully have a civilized discussion about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:52 PM
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Yeah this is the horrifying trend I’m seeing. I think a lot of young girls think what redpill men want is what men in general want. This is why it’s so bad that we say spaces like this are inherently toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:51 PM
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No. The women who participate in PPD usually have a pet obsession with online men’s movements
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:50 PM
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Why am I not surprised that people like you think upvoting/downvoting affects the neutrality of a sub. This is such a hilariously terminally online position Likewise such comments can get upvoted in subs that are against such views. Does that make them phony?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:20 PM
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And tbh no one on the outside thinks that dismissing someone’s opinion because they’re a virgin is normal. You’re not exactly normal either. Most normal people go abou life not worrying about male virgins Most normal people in the outside world will just think you have a chip on your shoulder because some virgin on the internet made you upset
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:57 PM
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Aggregate≠rate. The rate of virginity is still slightly higher here among 30+ women even when taking account the ratio of non virgins to virgins. Usually when you criticize crazy theories, people think you’re less crazy. People who think that we should just not discuss them at all are just putting their heads in the sand. You cant ignore redpillers out of existence lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:52 PM
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You’re missing the point. I’m not saying this sub doesn’t have wild posts. But this is the only place where people actually can interact with those posts in a normal way that isn’t just brigading and spam downvoting. The people who actually have comments and discussions are the sane people: not the people who are dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:41 PM
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What opinions are virgins agreeing with me on? My opinion that AFBB is a myth? That the 80/20 rule and Chad harems don’t exist? That it’s actually ok to flirt with women in public? Are these the opinions they are upvoting? No my point is that women come here and act as if men are the lonely virgins when apparently the women are no better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:39 PM
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Mmmm I think the name of the sub is apt. I find redpillers routinely getting their points refuted by hard stats that they claim women lie on surveys for but men don’t while claiming surveys don’t account for these factors. It’s probably about half and half for me whether I’m debating against a redpiller or pseudofeminist/misandrist. But the ratio can change depending on what is trending on the sub atm. I am also against both red and blue pill because they are prescriptive ideologies. Black and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:36 PM
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Well sadly post trump, these views have become more common. I don’t know why they don’t talk about the GI bill more though, which is analogous but basically the blue pill version of the same talking point. That said plenty of men here have completely valid criticisms of the dating behavior of some women that are not misogynistic. And women here make the same arguments about men. Don’t see a problem with that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:34 PM
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Ok these stats should be stickied. This is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:31 PM
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The epidemic of internalized misogyny on social media lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:25 PM
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Yeah this isn’t too far from what I was saying. The rate of virginity is actually higher here among 30+ women than 30+ men and honestly not that far from men in the 25-30 segment. Just goes to show how presumptuous people are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:21 PM
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Oh I don’t care about pushback, but it’s objectively wrong to think I was being misogynistic and it demonstrates my point that most people on this site unfortunately who say misogyny are usually just intellectual charlatans or insecure. It’s tragic because we are starting to see boy cried wolf type situations. Oh so you don’t care about my opinions about surgery? Well I don’t care that you don’t care and I’ll voice my opinions freely anyway and if it bothers insecure people then they can go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:18 PM
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I personally think that we have many WILD posts. But even in the wild posts, you find sanity in the comments. PPD isn’t good for the posts/OPs, it is good for the comment section. And I think people think this sub is misogynistic because they just look at those posts. It’s actually really sad. Even if this is a forum where you can actively debate against misogynistic views and it is even encouraged, people will still paint this sub black purely because it allows misogynistic people to make posts…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:17 PM
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It was on a thread discussing the topic of natural looks. I was saying how surgery isn’t inherently bad and helps many people but plenty of people get botched too and it can be unattractive. That’s not misogynistic to say and people fling that shit all the time on this site. Cursory glances are exactly what people who project do. Redpill is absolutely misogynistic btw. But this isn’t a redpill sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:14 PM
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But isn’t misogyny hating women (in general), not being unhappy with them? I agree RP is fundamentally misogynistic but hard disagree that this sub is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:09 PM
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Well that’s my point. Most people who are biased against PPD project the misogyny because they usually don’t actually participate in the discussion. They just write it off as “misogynistic.” To use the last example: I was called misogynistic because I said I don’t find women who have bad surgery to be attractive. That’s projection from women insecure about their bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah this is more or less my opinion. People on the rest of Reddit don’t seem to realize how much of Reddit is actually the bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:05 PM
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Do you recall the number? I would be curious if the majority of virgin males here are fairly young. Imo people tend to completely miss how many men here are in their late 20s/30s and have a decent amount of relationship experience and their problem isn’t that they can’t get laid. It’s like people just assume you’re an incel if you’re here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:04 PM
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I find this to be a neutral community and people who feel this way tend to be biased
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:01 PM
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People dismiss it because they know if they participated, they would be challenged. PPD has an out of sight out of mind sort of presence on Reddit but when you mention it, people will use it to assassinate your character. I think Reddit moderately improved in terms of echo chambers after they went public and now have to deal with more common ad standards. Reddit admins actually do their job now much more than they used to. I do think that content generally has suffered since then. But now echo c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:00 PM
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I have met completely neurotypical men who were in high school when the pandemic hit and still haven’t even made out with a girl. You have totally normal guys on the internet reading what crazy women think about men (that they are dogs who just want sex and if you approach me and all you knew was how I looked then you obviously only want sex etc). And then these men BELIEVE these women. I think a lot of these women who whine online about men’s spaces are on the spectrum as well. One of the thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:58 PM
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Most people who have called me an incel have most likely had considerably less sex than me. It’s bizzare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:48 PM
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It’s most likely a more normal representation of men but most likely a less general representation of women. I think most of the women on here explicitly seek out RP/BP content because they enjoy arguing with incels/have an obsession with online men’s spaces. I’d say the female representation on Reddit tends to lean much more trans and obese than irl Some subs probably have a more normal representation of women like the astrology memes sub. I’m not sure why but trans women seem to have a particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:47 PM
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It’s more or less part of the dating app. Pretty much all of my IRL relationships had implied social proof due to shared social circles
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:03 AM
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This isn’t wrong but some people don’t think general preferences between genders exists. Often the asymmetrical assignment of work and domestic tasks between the husband and wife are agreed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:06 AM
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No because they know they can’t make me a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:36 PM
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I don’t know why women assume this is what men want. Most men earn more than their partners and do some domestic duties (yes not enough but they don’t want their woman to do all the work) It’s usually that women end up doing domestic tasks their partner doesn’t care about (and arguably they should) then the woman gets resentful when her efforts aren’t reciprocated but usually the guy doesn’t care about her efforts. If they want, these women could just clean up after themselves only and then see …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:35 PM
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I would love background checks so I don’t have to waste time convincing people I’m not a criminal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:39 PM
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I would go far as to say that it’s not just preferences but also boundaries and the establishing of them often constitutes controlling. Suggestions about appearance are assumed to be bodyshaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:53 PM
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Female genital mutilation probably 😳 The clit is the enemy of redpill men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:46 PM
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I know haha being facetious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:38 PM
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Or just tell your date to jerk off right before you meet up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:26 PM
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So you’re saying once men started to watch porn they were like “aw shit can’t go to the party, conflicts with my scheduled jerk off session.” I’ve rarely seen the argument that porn and socializing are mutually exclusive. I see the argument that porn makes men less advantageous in social situations with women due to both the psychological conditioning and temporary effect on hormones that it can have. But you see people giving advice to young men to masturbate before a date so they aren’t as hor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:13 PM
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They were not consuming it at significantly higher rates than the decade leading up to it. Literally Pam Anderson’s sex tape was what pioneered online video web hosting. It simply cannot explain such a sharp inflection in the drop in casual sex. Its obviously OLD and social media I highly recommend the Netflix series about Pam Anderson. It literally shows how a sex tape changed how we consume media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:29 PM
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It’s funny because I am a big flirt and I initiate but if the girl doesn’t make me feel the way you’re describing then I drop her like a fly. Just make sure you reciprocate that energy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:16 PM
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This is how young stupid kids seem to be getting in relationships now: boy stands next to girl and makes the mundane low risk conversation that would normally be seen as making basic conversation but because of context it makes his boring low risk conversation a “proposition.” Girl watches the monkey dance and eventually she’ll either be like “you’ll do” in the most ambiguous way or she’ll just ignore you or have a fake conversation with you where they pretend that the proposition didn’t happen …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:15 PM
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It’s imo hard to make a statistical case for this. I’ve seen an NYU professor say the same thing but technically we saw the sheer drop in rates in casual sex occur around the late 00s/early 10s which is far after porn became mainstream. I also think that also disproves my theory somewhat, but these things are like global warming, hormonal deficiencies just seem to keep accumulating as microplastics become more ubiquitous as well as other factors. Porn addiction imo really only causes transient l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:10 PM
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You aren’t missing out. From my perspective most of those girls aren’t actually lonely but have boyfriends they don’t like much (ok well they probably are lonely but they just have shitty boyfriends). Being a “player” nowadays basically means you’re going to be a homewrecker to all these one foot in one foot out relationships that women seem to be having nowadays. I am regularly getting into sticky situations with coupled women today because I can never tell when they have a boyfriend because no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:29 PM
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The issue is that a lot of younger women now are getting their first taste of feminism via these platforms and it’s already fucking up society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:18 PM
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The current main tactic is gaslighting you that they aren’t actually anti men and when you show evidence then they resort to no true Scotsman arguments. I’m fairly convinced there are a large amount of “controlled opposition” fake posts on feminists subs where you’ll often see a caricatured misogynistic post on askfeminists or something then they proceed to circlejerk and keep the post up and then when level headed/rational criticisms are made in posts, they immediately get deleted and perma ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:15 PM
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It’s just getting very hard for feminists to simply ignore the extreme gendered language from young zoomer women on social media. I do think it’s very possible that China may be intentionally manipulating tiktok to be influence young western women who they probably see as their biggest cultural threat. This needs to be addressed. There’s something wrong with the girls like there was “something wrong” with the boys like a lot of the news articles in the 90s claimed. These girls addicted to social…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:59 PM
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That “nut cloud” is often precisely what attracts younger women to have hookups. The culture is changing and obviously young people are having less sex now, but some women needed a guy “young, dumb and full of cum” to make sex happen. Like how young men have a high horny to dumbness ratio, plenty of young women have a high horny to passive ratio. It’s awkward but young people need to be awkward to fuck. I think young people are now associating awkward energy with rapey energy. The young and dumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:55 PM
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It means you shouldn’t trust sexual attraction as an indication of compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:50 PM
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Low key you seem more redpill than op rn
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:57 PM
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Oh it averages out to more or less a net zero balance between the genders on a long enough time scale. Young men are just disproportionately affected and have raging hormones so you hear them complain more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:23 AM
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lol I’m not complaining about a lack of ugly ho’s. And the reason why you think I’m complaining is precisely because apparently you do care that men are incels. you projected that onto me with literally no hesitation Take a chill pill my dude. Incels aren’t really affecting you that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:59 PM
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The study confirms my “opinion” is fact buddy And dude you’re obsessed with men who don’t have sex. It comes through literally every comment you write bro. Chill the af out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:56 PM
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Do you normally assume men who disagree with you on the internet are incels 😂😂😂 Want receipts from the last mid chick I fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:53 PM
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lol who do you think you’re talking to hahaha Would bet I have a higher n count than you. Yes I have had sex with women I was not attracted enough to to fuck more than once. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023121996854#:~:text=The%20decline%20in%20casual%20sex%20is%20apparent%20for%20both%20women,to%2024%20percent%20in%202017.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:51 PM
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lol no Literally at most 1/4 of women want casual sex. There are only so many ugly ho’s out there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:46 PM
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Too many women make mountains out of molehills in the talking stages and will be presumptuous of things they don’t actively ask about. But in a relationship the same women are totally blind to his characters flaws often. This is because women think their own judgement of character is infallible. The woman trusts that she made the right decision when she made the commitment so he can’t have flaws because if he was flawed then we wouldn’t be in a relationship. Sadly a lot of women think this way. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:33 PM
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Having realistic standards correlates with RMV People who are content being single don’t know what their RMV is until they are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:27 AM
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Ok what’s more significant tbh is that you’re saying more men are virgins. More women absolutely were virgins than men when I grew up. If a guy didn’t have sex with a girl at his own school, usually he found a girl somewhere else on some kind of school program or camp or something like that. Superbad is more of a millenial experience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:15 AM
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40% sounds about right. Graduated in 2012. Lost my virginity when I was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:13 AM
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When I was growing up, almost half of kids lost their virginity before graduating high school. I really don’t think it’s like that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:35 AM
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I mean I don’t. The girl I went on a date with was 35. Pretty much all bar owners will tell you that in general things are just less active than 10 years ago. I went back to school in my late 20s and went to undergrad parties at the same school I went to in my early 20s. There was a party of about 40-50 people and I was the only straight man there. I do flirt with zoomer women but they aren’t as good at banter. They tend to be passive and just smile and giggle and go along rather than throw it b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:28 AM
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How old are you? I agree with you but I’m encountering that zoomers seem to only socialize when they’re coupled. Single zoomers stay home more than previous generations. I’ve stepped on many toes by talking to some guy’s girlfriend nowadays which just didn’t happen as much when I was younger (and yes I’m talking about people younger than me)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:19 AM
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Cold approached a woman a few weeks ago and argued about who was more selfish in bed then went on a date recently. I’m not into her but y’all zoomers live in an alternate reality. I’m only 29. If anything women nowadays seem more grateful to get attention from men in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:05 AM
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Definitely more popular now. At least coming from a guy. Granted, women gaslighting men about what they experience also seems to be on the rise. I didn’t grow up with so many short men with a chip on their shoulder. Obviously so many short men are insecure and bitter today because some chick acted like some cunt toward him. Meanwhile the cunts gaslighting men tbink short men are mad because they aren’t getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:01 AM
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Marginal women will need to increase their RMV because fewer men will tolerate bad partners just so they have access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:58 AM
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You’re friends≠all women If you isolate for women in college, it’s around half. But that sample isolates for women who may be more likely to engage in casual sex and not all women go to college. I dunno know why but I’m skeptical that your female friends tell you about their hookups. Maybe I’m wrong lol. I have a few who have and if I had to guess it’s probably around half of my female friends who have had casual sex but I have to guess somewhat because it’s not like all my friends talk about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:14 PM
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Yeah you most likely overinflate women’s sexual interest in you probably by around a factor of 2-3x I’m 6’3, 190lbs, and 16-18% bf. Pretty face. I’ve worked in sales and have a side business. I’d say you could get away with flirting with about half of women who are my customers/clients. Sure maybe some women feel compelled to act more proper in a professional setting but it’s equally the case that women feel that men performing a service for them are meant to be flirted with (they tend to be wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:07 AM
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Hypersexual women exist only on the end of a bell curve. Imo they aren’t even most of women who engage in casual sex. I agree with the stats that it is probably about a fifth to a quarter of women who have had casual sex. And I’d argue the majority (or at least close to it) of those women probably only did it once. And of those women who do it regularly, it’s probably only a fraction of that who are hypersexual. Imo men often exaggerate their exploits to other men by cherry picking dirty convos …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:02 AM
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Whenever I hear this, I just think of the irony of my personal experience that my longest committed relationships were with women I had sex with on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:31 AM
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Confided in someone I dated about an insecurity of mine and they just ignored what I said despite still going ahead with a date. I realized if this woman was worth dating, she wouldn’t have left me hanging and make me feel shit about that. She would have tried to sympathize just like all my friends and family do. Then I realized this woman is literally trying to present herself to me as if she has no insecurities and anyone with two eyes could see otherwise. So it made me realize how basically 9…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:03 PM
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People need to be more specific when they say promiscuous. It basically means anyone with double digit n counts nowadays. Girls who go out to get fucked by strangers on the weekends regularly despite not orgasming need therapy not a relationship. Women who have had a few LTRs, hookups and flings are often completely normal people despite having a 10+ n count
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:57 PM
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Point is that it’s an open relationship and you’d both know that you aren’t life partners. It wouldn’t be a waste of time because you wouldn’t be closed off to the person who may be the one you want to spend the rest of their life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:05 PM
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Objectification≠sex appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:41 AM
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No only bodies. OP is implying that men who have one body but get an LTR will still have more sex than overweight women because overweight women don’t have sex with the same person very often
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:26 AM
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Most people turn to red pill because they weren’t getting laid. Redpill is for losers who want to get laid but don’t want to let go of their resentment of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:06 AM
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The best sex I’ve had was with my HS sweetheart but there may be nolstagia factor. I think high n count people are actually on average worse at sex. They most likely have frequent but impersonal sex and more often one person gets off at the expense of the other. The high n count men are probably more likely to jackhammer or ask for unreciprocated oral. High libido women pick competent male lovers. Not lots of male lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:55 AM
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You’re basically saying that we shouldn’t be proud of having sex appeal. I think most people who have sex appeal put work into having it and weren’t just born with it. People with good genes and bad hygiene aren’t sexy. Likewise sex is desireable and supply meeting demand is social cooperation and productive. If no one is being exploited, which you need to be very diligent about, then thinking it’s inherently bad imo is just conservatism. I’m a man who works in sales and probably conventionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:46 AM
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Only if a woman dated a foreign man (I’m upper middle class). But men can date all the foreigners they want
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:35 AM
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It just blows my mind how many people would rather be alone than to have a less serious open relationship with someone in the meantime until someone you are really serious about comes along. People are just choosing to forgo life because their fantasy hasn’t landed on their plate. It’s just a massive waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:14 AM
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For sex yes. For relationships it is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:11 AM
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Tradition was never replaced with anything. And culturally men are viewed as superfluous romantically now. But the irony is that even in queer relationships, you can see LGBTQ people adhering to some variation of gendered archetypes (not always but very often) because it’s not as if we are all androgynous. There used to be a lot of literature on how women were expected to satisfy their partner. And it was largely misogynistic and traditional but at least the notion that women had to contribute i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:09 AM
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lol the denial comments are the cope. Also is auto mod not deleting cope comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:00 AM
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lol the only one biased here is you against this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:59 AM
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Literally talked to one with a 20+ count the other week. We were playing a truth or dare card game. And the whole room had to say and she was the highest. Most conventionally attractive women were in high single digits. I was second highest in the teens
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:59 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, it’s women who are bad at taking hints. Or rather they will often dowplay subtle signs of interest on first dates. And they will exaggerate signs of interest in the talking phase because they tend to assume you’re the guy just tryna fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:50 AM
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It’s the extremes. If female landwhales want a bf it’s almost statistically inevitable that they’ll date someone who takes care of their weight better. No I don’t date landwhales but unbelievably some have thought I would (6’3 190lbs 16% bf) I don’t know on what earth they think they’d have a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:15 AM
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It’s the extremes. If female landwhales want a bf it’s almost statistically inevitable that they’ll date someone who takes care of their weight better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:14 AM
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Imo more women need to lose weight so we don’t have so many relatively skinnier men being forced to date land whales https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db360.htm#:~:text=The%20age%2Dadjusted%20prevalence%20of%20severe%20obesity%20among%20U.S.%20adults,%25)%20than%20men%20(6.9%25).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:07 AM
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It’s usually about landwhales complaining about how men are superficial when there are objectively more of them https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db360.htm#:~:text=The%20age%2Dadjusted%20prevalence%20of%20severe%20obesity%20among%20U.S.%20adults,%25)%20than%20men%20(6.9%25). There simply aren’t enough male land whales to pair up with women land whales hence screeching from women because not enough men can force themselves to fuck them for the duration of an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:03 AM
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so I have been in a position to take college courses in my late 20s and yes plenty of women under the age of 21 are absolute write offs. They are not much different than the loner men of 10 years ago. They have a lot of the same social ineptitudes and hilariously are all big mansplainers but they think they are just educating privileged people when in reality they have no life experience. But that doesn’t mean women generally suck. Women are usually better conversationalists on average than men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:02 AM
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I just don’t understand how some men can put women on such a high pedestal that they become outcome dependent on a stranger. Like are there men anymore who enjoy talking to women? Lots of men need to learn to focus on having an enjoyable interaction in of itself rather than the interaction being a means to an end. It’s not like every woman you talk to is going to be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:12 PM
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I find women to always be more receptive IRL than on apps even if things recently are more uptight. Bars have fewer single people though. But I find men are so afraid to approach now that it’s very easy to talk to women in a way now. My total n count is higher from apps due to pure numbers but my batting average is better at bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:40 PM
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PPD regularly assumes middle class western dating as the norm. Poor dumb people breed like cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:58 PM
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This advice only applies to conflict but I still recommend keeping track. Women need to advocate for themselves without shaming their partner. It’s just a form of manipulation. If my partner feels like something is missing that she wants, then she can’t shame me into doing it by saying I’m not pulling my weight. You don’t get to impose your reality onto facts. If someone says I’m not pulling my weight but I am objectively, I will dismiss your accusation and tell you to reframe your complaint not…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:28 PM
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Being aroused and having a presentable living space go hand in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:15 PM
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Red pill is inventing some female boogeyman who redpill men hate yet also think is their only choice in a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:47 PM
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I started to get tension in an LTR over similar things so I started to keep a record of my chores and tasks. I also even had a white board for it to be public and my GF could also keep track. I did much more work around the house than she did and it felt really great to be able to dismiss her “complaints” as just not being founded in reality and it fortunately accelerated the break up process. It’s a card women will play when they want more from the relationship. It’s a massive red flag imo. Kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:38 PM
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Even if this is entirely true (which it typically is not) gang violence still accounts for less than half of violent crime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:55 PM
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Gang violence usually involves suspects who know each other. But yeah you can also be “estranged” or on the “periphery”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:45 PM
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I’ll look it up but the majority of public male victims of assault did not know their perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:23 PM
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I have already experienced twice in my life of women on top of me who didn’t stop when I said no. People don’t understand that even if you are strong, a woman on top effectively has full mount in mma terms. You’d have to curl her body weight more or less and pushing them off could risk your own injury. Unfortunately for me, one was a literal bjj blue belt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:49 AM
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When looking at successful relationships I agree with this, but there’s a reason why people say older men are often bad guys because they can’t get with someone their own age so they have to take advantage of someone younger. I just think women who haven’t had relationship trauma are more open to dating all men in general: including older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:39 PM
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Yes that’s generally why we see things the way they are. But regardless women on average feel more urgency to start a family sooner than men. This is why men on average have more romantic partners in life (they have more relationships before settling down) and why you see more age gap relationships with an older man vs an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:11 PM
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Why do men’s testimonies on a Reddit sub about abuse have anything to do with the fact that women deal with this more than men? And I’ve been used by women before and this is not how it happens. OP is pointing out how what gives women the ick, preventing them from getting into empathetic relationships, is often just being a good person. Women’s own insecurities make them want toxic relationships. I don’t think all women are like this, or even most for that matter, but ironically it can become mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:05 PM
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Plenty of women just don’t care enough about sex in order to be with someone they find most physically attractive for an LTR vs someone more stable. And she may even be able to sneak around and get some dick if she was really unsatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:56 PM
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Women care about looks less relative to men so aging decreases men’s smv less relative to women. Women also physiologically have more issues conceiving than men at old age who often can still get women pregnant when they are very old. Also it’s hilarious when Americans assume getting older=fat. I’m American also but old people tend to weigh less. And women on average have more body fat than men because they are supposed to. And body fat is usually more aesthetically pleasing on a woman’s body an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:54 PM
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Yes career peak is not what’s most important and it’s better to hitch up with someone before their peak as well as you’d get more ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:41 PM
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Happens less often to men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:39 PM
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Depends on your opinions about transactional relationships. Some wealthy men justify it to themselves because they have low RMV and can only attain a transactional relationship. Others try to conceal their wealth in order to avoid being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:34 PM
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I think most men’s careers peak in their late 40s-50s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:34 PM
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If these men are in their late 30s then there is probably something that is obviously off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:40 PM
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No. Only low RMV women think about these things (women who can’t secure commitment)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:18 AM
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Are you dating those loved ones? You can see character flaws on social media? Yeah there are a lot of pretty women who make shit partners. Being pretty doesn’t mean you have RMV. And ugly women who can’t get relationships can’t blame their looks either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:45 AM
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Women love to make people think they are ok with being alone because being socially undesirable is much more socially damaging to women than men which is why women are much more reluctant to admit that dating sucks even though they are struggling too. Men wallow in self pity so you see them complain more but women are usually to proud to admit their fantasy man would never even have them in the back of their mind let alone the front. Women who can’t get quality relationships are basically just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:30 AM
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Yeah, but I’d also recognize that if people don’t want to commit to me then there’s probably something about myself I should change. The reason why low RMV women are obsessed with male lonliness is because they know themselves that they often aren’t of much more value than the men they make fun of and those men probably would be more desperate to give them commitment. Insecure women would rather be used by attractive men and make fun of LVMs than to commit to LVMs. I mean I can’t say that they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:27 AM
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Women would die alone if men didn’t propose. Women don’t propose because if they did, then they’d be unsure of their RMV. One of the reasons why women are passive in relationships is because they are shit testing men to see how his behavior reflects on their RMV
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:20 AM
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No the ugly men wouldn’t stay around for long either if they had the chance. I think people overestimate men’s desire to stay with someone shitty just to have someone to have consistent sex with. Even if she committed to a virgin, the virgin may feel they aren’t missing out on much after they have had sex a few times. Women need marriage to have leverage in commitment. This is why you see breakup rates being roughly equal between the genders before marriage (with women only initiating breakups m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:52 AM
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Objective value doesn’t exist. You can subjectively be an LVM though. And yes if someone thinks not being able to get a woman makes you an LVM then you will be perceived as such. But the issue is that women who can’t secure quality commitment from men are basically just as low value as men who can’t get any sex at all. In reality, there are men who have lower SMV than women who can easily get sex but actually have higher RMV (relationship market value). The problem is your RMV doesn’t mean jack …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:39 AM
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It’s also women who have a chip on their shoulder because they can’t find someone worth while who will stick around so they have nothing better to do than to take out their frustration on “LVMs”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:10 AM
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Most women don’t want men enough before men approach. But some do. But most people generally like someone friendly and flattering. I also don’t want to sound gross but a lot of women do have a particular body odor when they are horny (and no that doesn’t mean they necessarily want it)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:57 AM
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Be non exclusive with people who you wouldn’t settle for then become exclusive when someone worth it comes along. But I guess people would rather let their life pass them by in the meantime
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:55 PM
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Men usually lack the awareness to see how attractive women can be lonely. They usually can’t tell which women are vain and like superficial attention and the women who are sick of it. Whether unattractive women are lonely or not is beside the point to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:49 AM
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The irony is that these relationships tend to be even more transactional and PPBs are in denial that they are basically just exploiting global economic inequality so financially desperate people can get more stability. I wouldn’t be surprised if you go deep into the PPB movement and you’ll start reading about how to maintain relationships with foreign women without giving them access to a green card etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:04 PM
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Also I think women like this are more likely to have to have you continue this power play dynamic even in the relationship itself. This can lead to manipulation and infidelity on occasion. Whether it’s apathetic or not is semantics. I’m just saying why waste time with someone who doesn’t reciprocate your energy? Why try to get in a relationship with someone where the process of dating them isn’t fun? And it can lead to a strained sexual relationship because these women are often very conditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 09:17 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re saying apart from the fact that you think this would keep men from scoring women who see you as having less value than them. I’m saying women who put in little effort tend to over-inflate their own value. Ime, high value women are actually less dismissive because they don’t need to dismiss people to massage their own ego because they are already confident. I would tell any man to go to a bar and do this experiment: strike up a conversation with the most attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:45 PM
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Imo the extent to which it is limiting is the extent to which you should diversify your options to outside OLD. I just feel like if you are sacrificing your enjoyment purely to get better results then it isn’t worth it. I’ve gone on dates with women like this. The power dynamic is fake because they are maintaining a fake dynamic as a defense mechanism for their own insecurities. Women who are actually confident will give you some slack to play with to see whether you will make a fool of yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:55 PM
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Yeah some younger zoomer OF girls seem to just be trying to crowdsource a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:54 PM
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lol you think if I haven’t had a kid yet then that’s some sort of gotcha? I would bet money this woman has never changed a diaper in her life. And if she has a pet, it is most likely neurotic from neglect
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:50 PM
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It’s very sad. They do less than prostitutes yet they expect to make more money than them. I don’t know why it isn’t being broadcast on the news that the average OF worker makes a hilariously amount less than the average Uber driver. These women are blackballing themselves because they think incels have money. They think they can profit from the “male loneliness crisis” not realizing that if those men had money then most of them wouldn’t be lonely. What dumb cunts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:58 AM
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Ok so what you’re saying is you don’t date guys with roommates? I’m from NYC and can find places cheaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:05 AM
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How do you know whether you will financially support a man based on his income? A man with a lot of income can still be in more debt than someone who makes less. To simply try to assume someone is solvent because of their income just seems a demonstration of your own financial illiteracy. So if they make less than 60k then they don’t have car insurance or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:00 AM
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People don’t want to admit that you’re more likely to get abused by some deadbeat your own age than by someone well off who is older despite the power differential.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:52 AM
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It’s not gold digging for women to expect a man to financially stable. You’re gold digging if you have a number requirement. Sorry babe. If you want to do better with wealthy men, I suggest you be discrete or show that you are financially well off so that they feel more at ease. If you want a wealthy man to stick around then attract him with your wealth or at least wealth preservation skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:32 AM
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Which is why goldiggers have to white lie often and pretend they aren’t sizing up someone’s income because that is always rude
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:03 AM
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If you looked up that he made the same or slightly less than you would you still date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:02 AM
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She’s low IQ and will never mother a child and if she did she couldn’t raise it herself. I don’t know why we waste time getting mad at these dumb whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:59 AM
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There is a massive amount of social posturing, back stabbing, jealousy happening among women atm regarding romance. It is related to current times and not inherent to gender. Women are struggling just like men with dating but female ego causes women to act out in different ways than men as admitting that they have struggle dating is more of a blow to a woman’s ego than men’s. Women will act like their shitty partner is the best thing in the world and they will try to find any reason to tear down…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:49 PM
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Blue pill lies cause misogyny down the road. And ironically I find blue pill misogynistic for the reasons you say: men who put work in to become educated and marketable feel entitled to women. Some feel like they’ve been waiting their whole life to have enough value to present themselves to women when all along they could have been dating and now they have very few social skills and are awkward with physical intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:42 PM
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Stop talking to women who put less effort in the conversation than you. You’re letting them set a precedent that low value women can gatekeep affirmation by acting standoffish until you say something entertaining. You need to be very clear that women like that do not deserve attention. Two strikes: if you’re engaged but they respond twice with low effort then immediately block. Have some self respect and stop being a dancing monkey. I’ve been on dates with these insufferable women and they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:37 PM
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Because redpill invented this idea as some sort of paradise to attract incels to their content in hopes they could have a Chad harem themselves someday
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:04 AM
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I don’t think there’s a single guy who has a better “ratio” on the apps than real life: attempts at getting a date to getting the date ratio. I’ve been rejected for a first date irl maybe once or twice? I think perhaps in the aggregate you get more quantity on the apps but if you could somehow teleport irl and interact with the same amount of women irl, then you would still do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:00 AM
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I prefer to initiate but I also prefer women who have initiative. I think there’s a distinction. I am not attracted to women who are looking to be impressed by someone they are dating and act like they should be treated well just for existing. Women like that are not loveable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:53 PM
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They exploit men who are insecure about their sexual worth. And they will program him so that he gets sexual validation by acting a slave to her. She will always have the threat of cucking him looming over his head but she will manage to convince her victim that the attention she receives from men should be an ego boost to him yet she will give him no PDA because that would be embarrassing to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:26 PM
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Women with orbiters/self esteem issues tend to assume more men want to fuck them than in reality. I am friends with women who have boyfriends and am friends with an ex. The only women who are weird about it are the ones with orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:07 PM
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Ok I guess women enjoy being on a merry go round of meat and knowing their relationships probably have expiration dates? I dunno why this sub seems to think that women are happy with how dating is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:04 PM
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Plain faced healthy weight men want to date plain faced healthy weight women generally. It’s not a high standard. I’m 6’3 190lbs with pretty low body fat and I don’t exclusively go after women who have a comparable physique to me. For the most part I date down in terms of body type and I tend date my looksmatch facewise. I would not get many dates if I only dated women of similar fitness to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:11 AM
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I don’t think it’s actually that women have super high standards but I think women aren’t conscious of how rare their “type” may be and also that women can be prone to having “icks” where seemingly inconsequential things are turn offs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:07 AM
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Imo the new norm should be that career peaks are offset: women peak earlier then have kids a little later than previous generations, but then men marry earlier but have their career peak after their wife has kids as college expenses and other rearing financial obligations come up as the kids age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:03 PM
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It’s a two way street: On average age gap relationships with wealthy older men have higher trust and relationship security…. But they are also more likely to end in divorce. And this is because age gap relationships are more likely to be transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:00 PM
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It’s fucking hilarious. She has probably had more money spent on her on dates than all the phone bills of the deadbeats she’s paid for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:45 PM
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No not exactly. Like I said: their insta feeds as a whole represent the life they fantasize about and they want a man who will make their insta feed come true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:31 PM
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lol follow counts are all the evidence I need. You haven’t provided shit Just look at the most followed people by women. Just look. Try. Do something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:27 PM
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I don’t care lol Try dating women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:25 PM
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It’s just that a partner making less than you doesn’t need to pose a threat to your financial security if you don’t make it so. No one makes you pay for their phone or have money to go out with. No one forces someone to move in with them and not pay rent. If he was paying half the rent then he couldn’t have quit his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:33 PM
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I think the issue isn’t that women want to have someone on the same career level, but it almost feels as if women who make a lot of money assume men who make less than them are going to mooch and be a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:13 PM
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In modern society with maternity leave the cost differentials are no longer the same. Mothers provide for their own children now as well. I don’t think it should be half but women imo should really only be compensated to the extent that pregnancy is incapacitating. But if the child is adopted it really should be half imo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:12 PM
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And the disrespect usually is mutual. Women think they are settling with men with low SMV and men think they have to put up with women with low RMV so that they don’t think they’ll end up alone or sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:10 PM
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Well whether you like it or not we are fucking less and getting married less. If the men here complaining don’t find a woman then those women aren’t going to find a man who sticks around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:09 PM
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I’ll just tell you what the difference is: Women are following celebrities they like and then they get invested in their relationships and start to envision themselves in similar relationships as they see on Instagram. I know she’s basically cancelled now but the Chrissy Teagan/John Legend couple is sort of the cliche example. But even generally a lot of women use Instagram to more or less create a collage of the life they want and they fantasize about finding the guy who will make their Instagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:55 PM
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You’re projecting male sexuality onto women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:45 PM
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Absolutely not. But they were more aroused before. Especially pre bc pill. Casual sex peaked with Gen x and early millenials. This wasn’t because there was social pressure to do casual sex. Sexual Revolution was more or less women getting the right to acknowledge that they can be horny themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:03 PM
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It’s more that there are women who’s insecurities prevent them from dating a man who is good for them because they don’t feel like they deserve it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:59 PM
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Social media has basically destroyed the brain vagina connection of a lot of women and they are physically incapable of being sexually aroused by anything other than what the algorithms have programmed their dumb little brains to be turned on by. Little incel shits destroyed their dicks by watching porn using a death grip and women destroyed their brains with social media having a death grip on their mind Then 6’3 dudes like me end up dating hypersexual women who want orgasms like a pez dispense…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:56 PM
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The friend thing is a weird thing to say and contradicts my experience. I get the sense that for some introverted types, you get friend group romances. The girl who hangs with the boys gets a crush. Starts out awkward. Becomes cute. Sure great. I’m the type where someone is usually getting naked by the second date. I don’t form romantic connections that way. But usually ime, dating within your friend group causes drama and love triangles. It’s obvious that the people giving this advice haven’t b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:51 PM
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Ehh she still shouldn’t have called him an asshole. She should apologize. And yeah I wouldn’t really want to have sex with someone who called me an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:50 PM
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Did you know that pretty much all genocide has been committed by men 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:31 PM
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I don’t think she has straight male friends bud
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:30 PM
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Again the correlation is ironic: hookup culture/casual sex peaked with the generations who rejected norms. Men and women didn’t solely associate because the expectation of a nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:30 AM
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No fault divorce has been around for much longer since the 90s. Likewise the first generations to reject traditional arrangements were the most sexual: Gen x and millennials. These miserable virgin zoomer boys and girls are a new thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:26 AM
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No I have never made one friend through squash. I’ve made friends other ways. You clearly didn’t read what I wrote because I obviously said that the friends I did play squash with were coincidentally already friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:09 AM
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“1% of rapists ever go to jail” ok (I think it’s like 6%) This is a somewhat new phenomenon yet rape rates have remained relatively the same over the past 30 years. It hit a low in the 2010s but is unfortunately back up to 90s levels but I think reporting today is better than in the 90s. I just don’t think these cultural shifts that have happened post social media/mainstream OLD are proportionate to the rates of sexual violence. It seems to be that there is a new phenomenon caused by something e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:08 AM
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This is what your straight male friends do to you? Dominate the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:51 AM
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I am conventionally attractive and it helps more for relationships than friendships although it does help both. It is harder for me to make a new friend than to have a random tinder hookup (to be fair with someone I’m not that attracted to).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:20 AM
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lol I’ve played squash my whole life. Sure I enjoy time with my pro and I play against other guys from the area. But have I ever made any male friends through that even in youth? Not significant ones really. They are relationships of convenience more or less. And of course there is a sort of “gentleman’s” agreement to be friendly so competition doesn’t get awkward. And when you’re younger, you’re just trying to win often. The friends I had who played squash just happened to coincidentally alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:11 AM
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I will say that my review from the lady in HR at my last job, she said I was “reassuring” and “easy going.” I was also the only male on my sales team and I work well with women in a professional environment. Most of my friends are women, and for the most part I remain friends with most of them regardless of their relationship status. I’ll just go ahead and say that actually on an individual to individual basis, women are more friendly and agreeable than men. And it’s because of what you said you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:56 AM
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How are men less cooperative?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:20 AM
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Wdym different? Could you say one is costlier than the other? And is it more about risks than costs? Or is it both?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:44 AM
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I mean I met a girl who had a bf and only found out after I already met her parents lol Friends≠romantic/sexual relationship. I was not long after in a brief fling with a girl who scared the shit out of me. Then I briefly dated a girl who was probably too young for me. Then I was in an LTR for a while then I dumped her (still friends tho) and tried to use the apps again and it was ridiculous so I deleted them and now I guess I’m focusing on making friends. Yeah personally it’s easier for me to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:40 AM
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And the social circles themselves tend to be guided by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:22 PM
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And this is why platonic heterosexual friendships are more important than male-male friendships imo when talking about this crisis. If anything male-male friendships can risk increasing misogyny and bitterness toward the other gender. It can create locker room talk and tbh I avoid the majority of men who try to become my friend after they say one thing that is totally out of line be it sexist or racist and it just totally turns me off from trying to commiserate with a person who talks like that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:57 PM
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I’m referring to commenters. What posts do female commenters comment on?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:34 PM
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I just don’t know what to tell you that it’s bizzare to me that someone can tell a stranger that they don’t have friends and have the stranger respond sympathetically. I just don’t understand that universe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:27 PM
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And who do the women engage with on r/lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:26 PM
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Great. I’ll tag along but I don’t share that enjoyment. I prefer banter and weed lol There’s a point imo where you become too intoxicated so that you lose your sense of wit and humor. You just become a slob. Imo most people don’t go to bars to get slightly drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:02 PM
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I drink. I just don’t like it. I do like alcohol for the taste. But don’t like to be drunk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:55 PM
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I’d say I put myself out there more than the average person my age. I’ve joined several clubs (one about animal rights and the other for thrifting). I take a gym class. I joined a farmers market and became a vendor. I go to bars even though I don’t like to drink. I’ve got like 1.5 new friends since the pandemic lol I’m sorry but it’s not for lack of trying. Honestly getting tired of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:44 PM
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You’re literally just scratching the iceberg. Men have complained about the disappearance of third spaces. The burden of social proof to enter a new social group as an adult is immense. I was talking to a female friend during the pandemic and I was talking about how I’ll be moving and will have no local friends. She literally told me that when she went to a new city, that she told people she was new and didn’t have friends near by and she said people were happy to socialize and make arrangements…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:29 PM
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Im at three 2+ year LTRs now, almost married one. Yeah the vast majority of women I’ve dated don’t seem to even think about “what am I doing to make this person like me.” There is very little effort done to listen to my wants and needs and then demonstrating a willingness to satisfy those. Most of the time it just feels like “I exist therefore I derserve what I want.” And then trying to advocate for my wants and needs is always done piecemeal with everything a woman is doing for me is a “concess…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:20 PM
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Do you actually think OP is suggesting that rape be legalized? This is why this is often a conversation that’s a non starter. People are just going to put words in someone’s mouth because the semantic implication behind criticizing “no one owes you anything” is that you think you should be able to take what you’re owed but I highly doubt most are saying that. I’ve seen this term applied to basic decency. People think that no one owes being nice to strangers when in reality you are just being ant…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:05 PM
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IMO it’s just a hamfisted implication/diss that you’re an incel who doesn’t understand consent. Apart from that I don’t understand what the hell it means. Say that on your tinder bio, it says you’re only interested in casual sex. Is this man “entitled?” Is he entitled to ask for such a thing despite not having talked to individual woman he wants to have sex with yet? No that’s absurd. Then at what point does he become “entitled?” Once sex becomes an expectation that he takes for granted. I reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:01 PM
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Only as a boyfriend. But not as a father. Cooking skills demonstrate an ability to manage the household. Someone who can prep and keep their kitchen organized has a lot more skills than just how to use a knife. There is a whole set of skills involved in making that all work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:30 PM
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My experience with abuse from HL (high libido) women can involve the opposite: they’ll demand sex as a way to get you to appease them if they are unhappy. And they will become abusive if you refuse sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:23 PM
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I definitely don’t regret my relationship with my abuser but my timeline involves 4 years of what I would personally consider to be free of abuse. It’s possible that in those first 4 years, there was some emotional abuse, but I still feel like I am aware of the red flags now and don’t feel naive about things. Either way I enjoyed those 4 years. And abuse comes in different flavors. I wouldn’t tolerate being emasculated and abused by someone who I didn’t have a sexual relationship with. That isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:19 PM
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Pay pigs aren’t the ones getting exploited. It’s the guys who have no money and are spending it anyway who are being exploited. That said, it will affect the labor market value if OF creators more than their subs. Most OF creators make substantially less than the average Uber driver
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:02 AM
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When the debates surrounding public violent assault happened, I became fairly sure there are some women online who do deliberately want to white wash male survivors
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:34 AM
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Women in 2023 everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:27 PM
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As long as you’re not reaching down your pants, I think a shimmy and pulling on your pants is fine in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:02 PM
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No it’s always rude to stare at someone’s privates. I get groped by women all the time so it’s cute you think I’m self absorbed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:01 PM
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One time I adjusted my man parts in my skinny jeans and a female bartender just straight up stared with her eyebrows raised. What should I have done?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:10 PM
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Did I say they continue to peak as they get older? When they actually peak or not is besides the point anyway, over 1 in 4 men will date someone 10 years younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:16 PM
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lol can you read? I didn’t say that. I said there are more age gap relationships with men as the older partner because women find older men more attractive than men find older women attractive it’s not that fucking complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:27 PM
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Ok well let me know when you start seeing more age gap relationships with older women with younger men than the other way round. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/age-gap-dating “Nearly four in ten (39%) have previously dated someone with an age difference of 10+ years. Men are more likely to have dated someone 10+ years younger than them compared to women (25% vs. 14%). Meanwhile, women are more likely to have dated someone 10+ years older than them compared to men (28% vs. 21%).”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:53 PM
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Sweet sweet projection. Love feeling their butthurt when they say crazy shit like this. Like the probably don’t really believe 30 year old men are that crusty but hearing about them hitting the wall at some point gets under their skin so bad that they have to say wild shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:07 PM
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lol are you seriously projecting male visual attraction onto women? Sorry. Women don’t seem to care about men aging and much as women care about men aging. Likewise all athletes peak in their early 30s generally. It is usually your physical peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:02 PM
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Those women are twats. If you are one then you deserve to be called one. But in general women are much nicer than the miserable twats on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:51 PM
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It’s weird to look at other people on the subway man or woman. That said I get stared at. And if I exchange glances with someone it’s sort of like a coincidence of eye contact. Usually you just smile and look the other way. This is usually a less awkward interaction with women actually. Some men feel emasculated by eye contact from other men. If they feel uncomfortable? I mean I personally don’t think I do things that are out of line. I don’t persist with people who seem uncomfortable but if som…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:27 AM
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Why does this sub think 30 year old men (when men are most attractive) have to date single moms? Like you can date women in their 20s if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:21 AM
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I’ve had so many times on Reddit where I’m literally just describing things I’ve observed other people do then these twats somehow try to turn it into some personal thing about me and how I’m just bitter and mad that some girl they made up in their head didn’t fuck me. I’m like what the hell are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:44 AM
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Women are not mysterious nor complex. There is no riddle to be solved to hack their attraction. Women are simple… as individuals. Women are not a monolith so the same approach for one woman might not work for another. But for the most part, each woman herself isn’t that complicated. The irony is that redpill men absolutely call out the nature of some women: neurotic women (eg BPD types). And it seems redpill men tend to attract these types as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:41 AM
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Women often see criticism as direction or a command rather than as feedback you can choose to accept or not. Being right and wrong is a matter of persuasion, not a matter of taking orders. Some men are dead wrong and can’t be persuaded to see their own fault. Some women are right, but often just accept someone saying they are wrong even if that person is wrong themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:32 AM
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“Females” “Man” Tell me you don’t get laid without telling me you don’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:29 AM
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You can record a female already without her consent… but a creepshot would still be SA: if taken of a man or woman. What it is this low IQ attempt at equating recording men with creepshots? Like are you talking about creepshots of men because that’s already not ok lol The f are you smoking my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:28 AM
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Creepshots are sexual assault. Filming a dude isn’t (or filming a woman for that matter, but not of anything that she/he isn’t choosing to show you). And yes if you publish a video with someone’s face without their consent then you can get sued. This is why faces are blurred. And yes there’s a distinction or else decency laws wouldn’t exist. If disrobing in public is indecent and can get you arrested then it’s wild to think that creepshots are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:25 AM
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Everyone is “asking” for something serious more or less. A tiny fraction explicitly say “casual” men and women because the apps are toxic and aren’t conducive to being honest. But even people who want to find their life partner still often operate on the “let’s not use labels” mentality when dating. This became more popular imo in the past 10 years: situationship culture. It’s interesting that people refer to hookup culture when hookup culture arguably has been gone for a while now. Hookup cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:35 AM
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No, men committing to women who don’t deserve it fuels hypergamy. The mid women on tinder need to learn if they don’t get realistic, then they are going to be a piece of meat for life. I don’t think most men have to lie. Situationships are the norm. Women who use sex as a carrot for commitment are not the majority of women. And they too need to learn that men who agree to a relationship with them are still allowed to break up with them after sex. And that doesn’t make their commitment a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:36 AM
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It’s because they are insecure and need to jab at men’s masculinity to feel better about themselves. Love how those twats think that we care about their opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:15 AM
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They usually exploit a power dynamic. Like you need something from them that only they have. Or they have a professional cover. These things prevent you physically from leaving the premises. One of my abusers is a doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:04 AM
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Kewl I dated an HL (high libido) woman for 6 years and I was abused physically and sexually. Like if I let her, she would’ve kept me for the rest of my life. She constantly guilted me to stay in the relationship I have endured SA from men too so I’ve learned a thing or two lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:42 AM
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And people act as if men are not disadvantaged in this aspect as well. Women don’t experience this, but if you do not already have established rapport with an existing social group, the burden of “social proof” to demonstrate that you aren’t anti-social or pose some sort of danger is immense. Perhaps it’s ok to do once or twice, but if you’ve never been accused of anything in your life, the process is incredibly humiliating. So my post Covid socializing track record: joined clubs (one club I joi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:38 AM
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Game the dating market and you’ll get played. Be toxic. Get toxic. I find a lot of the toxic masculine stuff to be fascinating. Like I would tear into a woman pretty hard if she thought that me being vulnerable is license to emasculate me. Do men just let women be that way to them and not have a problem with it? I guess these men are still literally trying to fuck toxic sexist cunts Here’s a line for the kings if some girl doesn’t like it when you cry: “Go date some repressed dude then. I’m sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:16 AM
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Child support exists precisely because these women were not independent (and yes we need ways to help these women but imo it should be the tax payer). You have stats on their income is before and after becoming single?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:07 AM
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And I’ve experienced it from women who have treated me like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:06 AM
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You have such low self worth that you can’t see how that would get old after Iike a week or a months tops. You literally can’t envision how that relationship would last for years but I’m sure you’re like “what’s the big deal?” This is how far gone some men are today
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:00 AM
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lol yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:57 AM
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It hurts women too but it disproportionately hurts men. One on one digital communication ime was always more of a feminine form of communication. When AIM hit the scene in the late 90s, I mostly only knew young girls who used it regularly. Similar thing when bbm and blackberries became a thing. Texting culture I think has largely been influenced by women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:56 AM
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So criticize their misogyny rather than gaslight them. All fourth wave pseudo feminists do is gaslight men and act in denial. They barely even support other women at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:52 AM
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Blue pillers need to take a look in the mirror and realize they only exist because they are a reactionary movement to redpillers. There has never been a stable status quo for the dating market since the Industrial Revolution. More or less each successive generation since then has has a different dating market. Blue pillers act like it’s always been this way and that’s usually just a tell that they are older and coupled or young and naive (often white knight) If you are not mad that pretty much e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:50 AM
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Standards for sex and relationships should not be confused. Most men with no relationship experience confuse the two Yes if you aren’t getting laid then lower your standards. But that doesn’t mean the woman you’re having sex with meets your relationship standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:47 AM
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Disagree. Never lower relationships standards. If anything raise them. But for sex? Sure lower them if you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:31 AM
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Insurance doesn’t prevent insurance fraud. Sure it would happen. But insurance fraud happens in lots of industries
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:30 AM
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These men have so low self worth that they’d take a relationship where’d they get fetishized over nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:29 AM
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She needed to douche. I scooped up a lot of discharge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:40 AM
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Because divorce settlements involve custody agreements which by definition means the man is not running away from responsibilities. It happens out of wedlock and usually the women are no less responsible and end up having their extended family raise their kid anyway while they nod off on fet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:25 PM
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And I’m saying a women’s livelihood is not a divorced husband’s responsibility. Most men who divorce want custody of their kids lol and they often get it because they usually are financially responsible for the kid’s wellbeing. Most single moms who are up shits creek without a paddle rarely get as far as marrying the pos they let inside them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:20 PM
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The notion is that single moms were taken advantage of by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:15 PM
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I’m saying if she works then being a single mom isn’t necessarily a bad thing (apart from the fact that divorces aren’t always amicable) Likewise there are equal amounts divorced men as their are divorced women. Divorced women have plenty of options
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:05 PM
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That’s the irony. If all we wanted was just a night to get our hormones out then we would ghost you after a ONS. I’ve literally only done it once in my life and it was due to her poor hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:24 PM
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It’s really sad when women like this never have had a quality LTR. They chase that feeling they have with the guy who never gave them the time of day and don’t know what it’s actually like to be in a relationship with a man who loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:03 PM
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OP is about dating apps. How many dates with men on dating apps do you think she has been on?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:01 PM
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You should be able to relinquish paternal obligations in the window where it is safe for them to have an abortion. The father should still cover half of medical costs for however long they remain in term or if they choose to carry term. Mothers can still put up their child for adoption if they have religious views against abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:57 PM
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This can only happen if you have an overinflated sense that you’re a good judge of character. If you think that you can know who the one is based on their profile (or let alone a texting convo) then you’re an idiot plain and simple. SOME people can know they are the “one” on the first date. They are a tiny minority. Maybe like 5%. Most will need more time than that. OLD has ruined the idea that dating is an ongoing act with mutual participants. OLD has convinced many women that dating can be lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:55 PM
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Exactly. Likewise if the end of the relationship doesn’t seem premeditated then it’s unlikely the guy “faked” anything. Imo there is basically a zone where if you break up too soon after agreeing to commitment then they will see you as fake no matter what. For entitled women any man who breaks up with you less than 10 weeks or so after agreeing to commitment is “fake.” But often a lot of different things about a woman’s personality can come out once she feels comfortable in a relationship. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:37 PM
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No anywhere from 40-80% of people have genes that can make them predisposed to being obese. But genes are a relatively small factor in determining your weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:57 PM
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lol let me use exceptional anecdote to disprove a rule Whether I agree with OP or not shouldn’t be the issue. Why do women enter relationships with men they are dependent on? Divorcing shouldn’t be a bad thing for women necessarily. Being a single mom shouldn’t be a bad thing inherently. It does beg the question: do men who agree on their marriage being a provider-husband and SAHM roles have a responsibility to stay married? Or are women foolhardy to accept those roles without an exit plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:46 PM
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I think most men who pump and dump women are good guys typically who just can’t find a girl they want a relationship with and they’d prefer brief company over no company.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:44 PM
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I think you maybe confused about what I mean by icks. I don’t mean in the bedroom turn offs I mean turn offs about your perception of your partner’s attractiveness. I’m not sure if you have heard of “ick lists.” If you meant the former then I would have that problem to a big extent and yeah if you don’t mention those “icks” then sex itself would turn you off. But that’s not what I mean. Although I guess somethings in the bedroom could be an ick potentially, but it wouldn’t revolve around someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:00 PM
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I guess it’s confusing because it’s partially my preference: I don’t enjoy having sex with people who have a solipsistic experience with sex. If we share an experience that you get a totally different impression from than me then at some point this would make the sex unappealing to me. I think the time when men think they enjoy it and women don’t is when women take a very passive approach to sex and the man doesn’t require as much action from the woman to enjoy it. I require more of a dialogue f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:40 PM
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Bad for the girl who I enjoyed it with? At the end of the day she wanted it more than me. And no if you’re the person who has bad sex then doesn’t say anything about it then you are also bad at sex yourself. Good lovers enjoy giving and receiving feedback. And yes your level of physical attractiveness doesn’t correlate much with your ability to have sex. But there’s a limit obviously to how ugly someone can be before it’s a turn off. But dunno your comment just seems like you’re trying to tell m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:27 PM
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I’ve had better sex with a woman I found less attractive than another woman I found more attractive. Women who are bad lovers have no ability to differentiate between sex quality and their attraction to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:11 PM
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Massive social shift. Change in social media marketing away from bimbofication/tiktok-sexual products. A refocus on health/beauty/fashion products as expression of self care rather than as keeping up with the jones’ Positive portrayals of male heterosexuality in media. Atm Pedro Pascal and Keanu Reeves are sex symbols. Not that I don’t like those guys, but we no longer see flirty/cassonova types. Ending match group’s dating app monopoly involving a mass exodus of men away from tinder toward an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:29 PM
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Appetites slow proportionally to slowing metabolism. Older people on average WEIGH LESS. Fat fucks will come up with any excuse apart from their own habits to blame their body on. People who let themselves go in their 20s into their 30s did precisely that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:05 PM
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Commitment is a choice for HV men. HV men are basically a litmus test for a woman’s RMV. The more HVM are hooking up and only doing casual, the more likely the local women have low relationship value
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:01 PM
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I literally experience the opposite. All my irl female friends think OLD is horrifying and agree that it’s awful for men. It’s the women online who are addicted to the drip fed validation that OLD can provide insecure women who know they’d never receive that much attention irl who think online dating isn’t toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:04 PM
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Yes I think most women who monkey branch are just oblivious/flaky and usually not as targeted as people think
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:55 PM
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Every other week about. More regularity than male friends actually although my last close “male” friend just transitioned so I’m mostly now socializing with women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:52 PM
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Eschatology inherently implies an “end times” and apocalyptic predictions. I’m just making a prediction based on current trends. Marx is highly eschatological however. The notion that the proletariat will ascend and the bourgeois smashed is more or less messianic theology. Basically rapture but proletariat and bourgeois rather than believer and unbeliever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:38 PM
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Profit incentive itself does not change. These innovations simply introduce new modes of production. Nothing about how the fundamental nature of capitalism works changes. This is imo an overly historicized view.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:08 AM
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I am aware of this terminology. I just don’t find it useful because it merely identifies trends based on innovations. The distinction I am making is that we are entering a phase of capitalism where the nation state is becoming more irrelevant. The term late stage capitalism is ironic. I think it might be due to optimism from some Marxists. It’s only been like 400-500 years. There will be thousands more years of it. This is still pretty damn early lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:33 AM
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lol wdym it is an objective biological function lol I’m so confused. It’s like I wouldn’t date someone who talks by burping or something. No one is forced to use vocal fry. Everyone who uses vocal fry has the option not to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:11 AM
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Red wine teeth are a huge ick
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:09 AM
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Also this is clearly why no one is dating. Every girl wants a tattoo’d bad boy douche bag but no boy wants a tatood girl 😪
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:09 AM
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It’s just a cliche that pilots use vocal fry when making onboard announcements. It was the original vocal fry cliché before it became associated with kardashians and women who follow them/valley girls People act as if men don’t do vocal fry or haven’t been criticized for using it. It’s actually even more annoying when male pilots do it because I’m like “the f carousel am I going to?”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:46 AM
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It’s literally just a term to describe how your vocal cords move There’s fry, modal, falsetto and whistle modes of vocalizing. It makes you hard to understand and sound less serious. Its nbd to use it as an effect and saying “yaaass” ironically or something like that, but if that’s just how you talk ALL the time then I just can’t do it I’m sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:45 AM
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Why do you think I used the example of an airline pilot lololol https://youtu.be/JWKM9LoTNLA?si=7WCT5M99C1uQpcu7
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:16 AM
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If the argument is that capitalists wouldn’t own their capital were it not for the state, this is only true indirectly. Just because states enforce property rights doesn’t mean you need a state to enforce property rights. Sure states have accumulated capital themselves through expropriation, but you literally can’t create capital through expropriation. That is more or less a performative contradiction. The accumulation of capital requires precisely the opposite: that by some chance people saw wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:13 AM
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This is because capitalism is not an inherent political ideology unlike many other “isms.” It does not require the state for its existence and the state relies on capitalism to generate the tax revenue it needs to fund its racket/imperial program. Capitalism is not some Frankenstein that gets revived when it crashes. Nation wide crashes have only occurred after macro economic policy became the norm for neo liberal states Crashes happen precisely due to the fact that state actors try to exploit m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:22 AM
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No I’m just saying that regardless of what policy gets advocated in the short term, this is going to be an inevitable trend. Fun fact: Rothbard wanted Lyndon Johnson to win over Goldwater because Rothbard didn’t give a shit about the economic policy if nuclear apocalypse was possible. I’m not sure what you mean about strong tax base? The tax base doesn’t disappear when you stop taxing it. The money is still there, it is just not in the hands of the government. And market competition is necessary…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:19 AM
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It’s not a turn off for you? You get turned on when the pilot makes an announcement lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:07 AM
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Radical libertarianism shares some of Marxist views on history despite having opposite views often (well some left libertarians are very Marxist). They see capitalism as part of the long arm of history. Libertarians correctly see the fall of the Soviet Union as the end to authoritarian socialism having a bearing on history from this point forward. Despite hysteria from some right wingers that neoliberals are socialists, radical libertarians are actually much less worried by the threat of sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:06 AM
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The general trend of global capitalism is more use of international arbitration to sidestep government courts. We are already fairly deep into this era. We are basically moving from early stage capitalism to mid phase at the moment. The share of private courts and institutions managing disputes will continue increase. This is sort of the post protectionist era and multinationals are effectively now able to run away from regulatory burden if they want and is worth the cost to them. Sure you can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:53 AM
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Yes that happened post trump. It has happened before (radical right regularly dog whistles libertarians for intellectual legitimacy) but it’s more common now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:42 AM
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It’s not at all depending on the context. We deregulated TV/telecom in the 90s. If we didn’t then it’s possible that we would have much less variety in media as we do today. We could all be buying internet from one company called bell. Moreover “regulation” begs the question of who regulates whom. Libertarians don’t argue against regulation per se but often that government regulation is inefficient and punishes innocent parties often to benefit special interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:40 AM
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Passive aggressiveness Bad manners/dead pan attitude Sloppy when drunk Persistent nervousness despite attempts to soothe Judging the appearance of other women Easily upset when things don’t go her way Girls who behave petty just to prove a point when there’s no real benefit to them doing so Goes out a lot but does the same shit over and over with the same group of friends but she doesn’t want to go out and actually do something interesting She only listens to top 40 music and doesn’t have varied…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:24 AM
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I’m a very socially liberal libertarian and I have only dated left wing women and most of them have said their libertarian boyfriends were less toxic. Problem is there are a lot of Kyles now who identify as libertarian post trump/alt right so libertarian no longer carries the notion of career oriented pot head who would prefer to pay less taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:38 AM
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It’s also fucking obvious to anyone but people who have an agenda. I don’t think this is a politically charged position. Gynocentric culture isn’t inherently bad. It’s good that women have had some more agency to express themselves and have that represented in media. But if that displaces authentic and fair representation of men and a culture that speaks to them then that’s bad. I do think that is a problem. Institutions are patriarchal because that’s the status quo. I have no idea if red pill o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:17 AM
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I was enjoying the conversation at the time but that was one of the first things she said to me that was a 🚩 And tbh I don’t necessarily think it’s wrong to live with family but it didn’t take long for me to realize that she just kept complaining about things in her life that she had the agency to change but clearly was just looking for someone to bail her out of life. I don’t use OLD rn but if I did I think I’d avoid matching with women where there are such serious differences in health/lifesty…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:37 AM
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I was young and probably shouldn’t have let it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:52 PM
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Insecure women on OLD demand finished products as a coping mechanism for their relationship dissatisfaction. Was talking to some fat cunt (don’t know why bc she was so fat but I didn’t mind the conversation). Lived in her parents basement. Mentioned my sister married a millionaire and she legit asked if he had friends. I should have told her “why would a millionaire give any thought to a fat lazy fuck like you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:43 PM
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Why? Would bet plenty of money that I have a higher n count than you lol Stop projecting that every man you talk to on PPD is a desperate virgin I’ve had women jerk me off on the dance floor whom I’ve cold approached I’m here to complain about how undateable so many women are lol not about not getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:34 PM
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I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:23 PM
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You don’t speak for any women apart from yourself. I’ll have mutually enjoyable activity while you go be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:22 PM
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But it’s just as often women inflating their own worth and refusing to acknowledge their flaws as it is LVMs inflating their own worth. The point is a lot of women only have options of men who look down on them. That’s basically a sign that the woman doesn’t know her place
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:34 PM
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Our culture is gynocentric Our institutions are patriarchal Losers obsessed with playing the gender war/victim game can’t reconcile these two positions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:18 PM
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The issue is that even if a man is inflating his own worth, if you can’t convince him that you’re worth is higher than or equal to his, he will never treat you as an equal even if you think he isn’t worthy of you If you want men to treat you better then you have to treat men better. It’s not complicated. Just waiting for the guy who does treat you how you want is not a dating strategy. It’s basically just romantic camping and campers generally don’t get what they want in the end. But it’s often …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:32 PM
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Part of it is needing to be with a man who “loves them for who they are” which is code for “I refuse to acknowledge my own flaws so I’m waiting for a simp to tolerate my bullshit” No reason to cry over these women. An incel who gets the opportunity for commitment once is more likely to have a fulfilling relationship than women like this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:14 PM
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This is what terminally online losers do who probably couldn’t flirt their way out of a paper bag and are probably absolute buzzkills who have poor bedroom communication skills. Not all women are these high strung anxious balls of misandry covering it up with narcissism. It’s hilarious that these women think I would consider cold approaching them as if that would be enjoyable. But these sexist losers just assume all men are socially inept and can’t gauge the the receptiveness of women. They’ve p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:53 PM
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Your preference. Some women have other preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:21 PM
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You’re imposing a normative definition of feminists when there exist some who identify with such beliefs. We need to start using the term “pseudo feminist” rather than going “naw I disagree with them so they aren’t real feminists.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:24 AM
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You’re in the minority because most young people nowadays are terminally online. I’ve done both irl and OLD. OLD is indeed a shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:20 AM
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Holy moly we got a live one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:28 AM
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Moreso than gay men generally? Biphobia from women more often comes up when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:38 AM
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Men afraid of bisexual women probably. I’m talking about women who refuse to date bisexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:35 AM
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I don’t think most women are concerned about this. HIV is no longer the threat it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:25 AM
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Men lash out at women for a variety of dumb reasons but I think misogynistic men are more likely to treat a pretty lady nicer than an ugly one all things equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:07 AM
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Fear of bisexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:52 AM
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You think women are afraid of catching hiv/aids if they date a bi guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:52 AM
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Feminism is still broadly sex positive but there is a growing anti sex work faction of it. It’s similar to the rise of conservativism among young men. But young conservative (“alt right”/redpilled) men aren’t explicitly anti sex work but see it as a vice and that sex workers themselves are despicable. The anti sex work feminists are not right wing but they are reactionary to current alt right sentiment. Left wing people go in and out of being socially conservative (eg tipper gore). But in this c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:43 AM
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Yes that’s the point. And sadly less attractive women often experience more of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:00 AM
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They are the conservative feminists more or less lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:58 PM
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It’s just a generational term. There are rad-fems, liberal feminists, Marxist feminists etc. and people identify as that usually. Not many people say I’m a 4th wave feminist. If they do it just refers to the age of their peers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:50 PM
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When did I say that women who reject cold approaches are ugly? I’m saying ugly women tend to have worse cold approach experiences because misogynistic men look down on them. And those very same men often treat more attractive women with more courtesy. ND women aren’t going out much? You’d be surprised. I know a lot who are the opposite as well: very open to casual flirting. But it’s also anti social women more generally who are less able to understand what the stakes are during banter and less a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:45 PM
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I guess no one really does. It’s just becoming a more common sentiment among young women. Normative definitions often aren’t helpful either though. Lots of feminists think feminism should be x and but there are people who identify as feminists who say it should be y. So when feminists often say “no feminists don’t think that” they are often just imposing their normative definition and ignoring what other feminists say (i think “pseudo-feminist” needs to be popularized as a term)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:55 PM
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It’s not either or lol it’s both. I’m surprised you haven’t encountered any anti sex work feminists. A lot were very vocal during the pornhub crackdown. These women are not right wingers: r/loveafterporn (yes people have issues with porn, but a lot of people on that sub think it should be illegal)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:36 PM
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Anti sex work sentiment is growing very fast in 4th wave feminism circles. Misconceptions about porn addiction/no fap have caused a puritanical revival among some progressives (among other things, but it goes back and forth)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:27 PM
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It is. It’s a 20+ year lag but marriage rate is declining. Everyone is having less sex, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:26 PM
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This is also why so many women are biphobic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:14 PM
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I didn’t say anything about how attractive men are in my OP. You were the first to bring up how attractive men are to this conversation. Men of all levels of attractiveness see ugly women as often deserving less courtesy. Men who are attractive are often more entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:57 PM
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Look I also just go 😾 at that Salvation Army guy. They’re a bunch of crooks. But he has the legal right to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:51 PM
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Not entirely imo but it has become one of the primary driving forces post trump But Japan went through this 20 years before us without the political aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:34 PM
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Cold calls and soliciting is legal You really need to get out more or answer your doorbell/phone Some women would rather meet their husband at target than at a bar. Most men at bars suck I’m not insulting anyone. There are just lots of antisocial/ND women who think that other women don’t enjoy these interactions. I don’t know why they think they get to decide what other women like and not like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:28 PM
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I’d probably need to ask for your consent in order to get consent to ask you for your consent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:19 PM
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No they don’t. Why do you think some physically attractive men can’t be trashy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:19 PM
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As some others have noted, it’s not just putting your head in the sand to women like this, it is also turning a blind eye to it because men are taught that women are emotional and crazy so we tolerate it when we really shouldn’t. People always say how women initiate divorce more than men and how thats bad. The reality is that the other issue is bad: men don’t initiate divorce enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:00 PM
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I think the average woman is fairly rational albeit a little too dismissive of the RMV of men. The women on the extremes are bat shit and will fuck hitler for handbags. That does not imo change the status quo of the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:38 PM
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Of course douche bags claim plausible deniability when getting rejected by women they think are beneath them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:20 PM
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No you don’t lol it means they want to get to know you better so that maybe they will ask you out and maybe if that date goes well then they’ll ask you out for a second date. And maybe if you seem alright then they will think about fucking you. You’re basically assuming they have bad intentions because they only know what you look like. But that’s all you have to go off of when you don’t know someone. Finding someone physically attractive is a perfectly good reason to want to get to know someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:19 PM
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Even with how many men complain about not getting laid, more men still have casual sex than women simply because men want to have casual sex more than women. The amount of women willing to have casual sex is comparatively small to the amount of women who want relationships. All the men who want casual sex, attractive or unattractive, outnumber the amount of women who want casual sex by a significant proportion. And women who want casual sex often themselves are more looks based than the average …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:29 PM
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Happens all the time. It’s for quick sex. They’d never have quick sex with someone attractive because they’d at least want FWB or a relationship with someone who is more attractive. A lot of these men do these things in secret with unattractive women, even when they are not in a relationship. Some men are more shameless though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:18 PM
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Exactly. Men assume less physically attractive women are also less sexually desirable. Women find plenty of physically attractive men sexually undesirable: more than men find physically attractive women sexually undesirable. This dynamic is half the reason why what I state in OP occurs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:14 PM
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The people who make general rules about things like this are really just telling on themselves that they don’t have social skills and can’t read the room. That’s why they come up with general rules like don’t cold approach. It’s because they themselves are usually pretty awful at determining whether a given social interaction is being enjoyed mutually. The point is no consensual activity is inherently wrong. The point is also that you have to learn how to read the tells and body language to dete…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:08 PM
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Usually yes. But some physically attractive men go after women below their looksmatch for an easy lay. And if anything these men can get more upset due to the perceived difference in attractiveness making feel more entitled to her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:03 PM
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Yes, the assumption that ugly=easy to get in bed has nothing to do with an individual women’s libido. There may be some women who feel desperate because they are less attractive, but that is more marginal imo and generally the correlation between attractiveness and willingness to get in bed basically doesn’t exist. If anything “attractive” people may be more horny if we are assuming health to be attractive, which means your hormones should work better (these things are obviously highly subjectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:01 PM
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Men who get laid still get rejected lol Again it seems like you just don’t get out much, but unattractive women are preyed on all the time for the belief that men think they are easier to get in bed. There is a limit of course. They aren’t going to hit on someone they feel repulsed or disgusted by.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:49 PM
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And you’re not the guy creeping women out. Men who just want to get their dick wet and care less than you assume that ugly=easier
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:45 PM
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lol everyone cares if flirtation is reciprocated because no one wants to flirt with someone who doesn’t want to flirt back at them. But I’m not sure what your point has to do with the post. You’re talking about the differences between what attractive vs unattractive men experience. I’m talking about what attractive women vs unattractive experience. But go touch grass lol you’re pretty naive to assume that because a man is attractive then he can’t be a misogynist douche bag. I dunno how much you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:44 PM
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The claim is often made that women generally don’t like being cold approached. I’m saying that can be observer bias from less attractive women who only experience trashy men hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:08 PM
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lol that’s literally what my comment says
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:46 PM
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And the rate of lying has increased recently lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:44 PM
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These just tend to be the issues naive men are blindsided about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:41 PM
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People who have social skills can tell when something is a nuisance or not. People without social skills make up general rules like this. Ok I’ll make sure I’ll only approach ugly women so she doesn’t assume that I only want to fuck her. PSA: not all the guys flirting with you want to fuck you. If you’re ugly they actually want to humiliate you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:15 PM
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The misogyny from women on PPD is getting a little much Today are we mad that men want virgins or are we mad they want women to put out sooner than later?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:06 PM
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Cher isn’t a misandrist. She’s just an essentialist and actually thinks this means men are more honorable for what they do considering their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:50 PM
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RP generalizes that women are like this, which is sexist. But it is absolutely true that some men are brainwashed into thinking that women can’t be entitled brats who are too stupid to make their own decisions and have no accountability. Some women definitely are and I don’t think men do a good enough job of withholding their commitment from these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:45 PM
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Yes. She cooked meals for the family after I could cook for myself. She didn’t cook personal meals for me after a certain age. When I moved back in during lockdown, I did more cooking. She has OCD and cleans impulsively. I’m fairly neat but I have to hide my possessions from her or else they will become lost. Housekeepers always did laundry but she’d iron and sew. I prefer to do my own laundry because I’m picky about it Both. More often mom bc of ease of access. No difference. I was fairly well …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:54 PM
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As a man, I relate because I’ve personally gone through times where I didn’t want to have sex with my gf and when we got a puppy, I did most of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:07 PM
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Tragically unattractive women are often harassed by men. Men act gross toward them because they think they aren’t pretty enough to be treated respectfully. If they can’t shame them into doing something sexually humiliate them then they can just do it verbally to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:51 PM
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You’re acting as if you generalize about all the men you date. Some men act this way and some don’t. It’s not something “men set up” and if anything fewer and fewer men do this which means that taking this approach as a woman will shrink your dating pool considerably though this isn’t necessarily bad. At this point you are filtering for dancing monkeys. Sure they can “show” you an interesting conversation but most interesting conversations happen when both participants share a mutual desire to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:47 PM
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Better start only approaching ugly women so they don’t assume bad intentions 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:53 PM
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Well for a particular type of “casual“ relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:08 AM
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So you’re saying that’s why you’re not open to being approached? Why do you think attraction is not a good starting point to get to know someone better? And if they know nothing else about you, where do they start? Do you only consider flirting with people you already have existing social ties to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:12 AM
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Um did I ask you whether you seemed opened to be approached yourself? I don’t see myself asking that. No I don’t think people sitting in cars in parking lots are generally opened to being approached, but what does that have to do with my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:02 AM
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And you think being physically attracted to someone isn’t a good enough reason to get to know someone better? I’ll admit straight up that I’m somewhat enable pretty privilege. I just tend to prefer to talk to more attractive people in general (man or woman). But it’s not that consistent. It’s more whether I can tell if you’re in a bad mood or are bad at maintaining a good mood. Maybe this is elitist but I do tend to find that attractive people seem happier and more open to be approached. Granted…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:50 AM
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She probably has a restraining order against this guy: https://mediaproxy.salon.com/width/1200/https://media.salon.com/2007/08/the_artful_seducer.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:38 AM
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I’m sure she walks in public with a resting scowl on her face so I don’t doubt she has lots of unpleasant interactions with strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:33 AM
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What’s your opinion on love at first sight? Is it just a part of rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:31 AM
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lol I’m in sales. I do it with customers. Jnroberts scribbles in diary: don’t date men in sales
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:21 AM
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She is sexist toward women too. She infantalizes them and believes that no woman actually enjoys these interactions and that anytime where it seems they are enjoying it is just because they are pretending to go along because she thinks women are these fragile timid creatures that can’t advocate for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:20 AM
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No cat callers can’t just quit their shift. I’m not saying no men who flirt with you just want to use your body as a hole but most men who flirt are genuinely trying to get to know you better and are trying to have fun while they do it. It’s just weird talking to people on Reddit as if they don’t know that there are lots of extroverted people who enjoy banter but don’t assume the banter is implying anything else than enjoying the moment with the person. And if you’re fat and ugly enough to be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:08 AM
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Like you do realize some women do enjoy flirting with men who have cold approached right? Or do you seriously think that every woman flirting with a man who cold approached them is just keeping face? You can’t honestly can’t the THAT under a rock
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:05 AM
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Eww cornering a woman? If I’m cold approaching she better fucking reciprocate or else I’m not interested and will talk to someone else. I’m not going to want to flirt with a woman who doesn’t like it. I probably know you wouldn’t reciprocate before saying a word to you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:02 AM
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Yet again you’re assuming they want sex. It’s just as likely they wanted to humiliate her. Cat callers are also not trying to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:57 AM
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Why am I not surprised that your twisted up version of narcissism and sexism interpreted that as me coming on to you 😂 I bet you love it when losers fumble over you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:48 AM
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I’m sorry the only men who have cold approached you have been cringey PUAs were they peacocking too 😂 Hopefully a more suave stranger will come around some day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:43 AM
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Believe it or not, not every guy who flirts with you wants to fuck you I guess we should start cold approaching ugly women because if we both know your ugly then you’re not going to assume ill intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:42 AM
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I’m sorry only losers only cold approach you lol I talk to strangers. Sometimes we flirt. It’s mutual Get over it lol Some women don’t want to be chatted up in a target. For some women that’s a fantasy. Learn to read the room and maybe you’d realize the men flirting with you don’t necessarily want to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:37 AM
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I think you’re in the minority of people let alone men or women. I find most strangers to be open to polite interaction and very often it is a Segway into flirting. But most people who can read the room and are socially aware can understand when flirting is low stakes and not a guy trying to get into your pants. I think ND women are less good at discerning this and are more likely to interpret all flirting as more provocative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:24 AM
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Glad you understand that the women hitting their wall is something most women are in denial of and often use sexism as a coping mechanism. Plenty of women will take this grudge to the grave. They’ll never admit they weren’t good enough to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:22 AM
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Imo most redpilled men I know did not get laid in high school and turned to red pill due to their crisis in masculinity. I get the impression that most of them resign themselves to the fact that they aren’t a chad or alpha so instead they do self work and build themselves up to become a beta bux. The reason why they prefer tradcon women is because they think they are less likely to cheat. If they are doomed to be a betabux then they better pick a virgin who never experienced good dick
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:17 AM
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190lbs low body fat. Regular gym goer. I have a pretty face and long hair. Again my n count is not that low at this point in my life. But that has surprisingly little to do with finding a decent woman. I get hit on fairly regularly at bars. And yes the quality of women I’ve been with IRL is much higher than dating apps. But my point is that I did have lots of success on them in their early days despite being less attractive and having less money. I’ll tell you this: the bots are there intentiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:01 AM
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Yes most aren’t real options. But it doesn’t help women know where they stand as to what their real options are. Likewise men no less have the issue of bad quality options. They just aren’t thirsting for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:35 AM
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So fyi I’m 6’3 and already had a 1x n count by the time I graduated college. I used tinder in 2013 before getting into a 6 year LTR and I never felt back then as a literal 19 yo broke POS that I couldn’t find someone to sleep with for a weekend from the app, but I’m not comfortable with regular hookups personally. I’m a WAYYYYYY more eligible bachelor now and dating apps are like milking a rock. 2 of my 3 LTRs were IRL and I was pursued for one and I pursued for the other. Felt normal or “blue p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:51 AM
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How is it low effort? AFBB is statistically rarer than redpillers claim so if they often have or fear the experience of being a beta bux getting cheated on, it’s most likely because you’re bad dick. A good amount probably think clit stuff is emasculating. I also think it’s because redpill tactics filter for women who are neurotic/bpd/narcs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:29 AM
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You don’t need to? So having good conversations isn’t a problem you have? The incentive is having a good conversation. If you think you can have one by passively waiting for someone to have an opener that entertains you then be my guest. But if you’re not having good conversations then clearly that tactic isn’t working. You have to consider that you may be the reason why you don’t have good conversations and it’s not just because of men who have boring openers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:26 AM
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They’re basically doing in person what insecure women on tinder do for validation/ego boost. Rather than enjoy the person in front of them and share affection, they’d rather not sacrifice the attention/validation they get from superficial interactions with random men or getting high of the spectacle of drama with exes or love triangles. These women get more of a dopamine boost from that than actually trying to have a quality relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:48 AM
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The issue is often that women will literally start assuming the same questions they get about their profile become boring purely because other men have asked it before not knowing each guy is literally only seeing your profile for the first time. Anyway, it’s ridiculous that women say this. If you actually had this problem then you could rectify it by sending more first messages yourself and asking interesting questions about men’s profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:44 AM
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That’s what most men are doing lol I don’t consider most women to be LTR material. Tinder more or less is only good for ONS with women I don’t find that attractive. The other issue is that the quality of women in general has declined since women have gained more choice relative to men. They can “get away” with more nowadays, but at the same time this is also why men are doing what they are doing now. And the result has been a decline in marriage, and people having less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:40 AM
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Single by choice atm (a choice made fairly soon after I dumped someone). Have had 3 LTRs. It’s just what the stats say. Basically half of people fail in choosing their life partner (divorce rate). This number has remained fairly consistent despite increase in choice among women and fewer people are getting into relationships to begin with. Casual sex in general has been on the decline as well. Everything is just shrinking. My priority atm is on my own social life and yeah here and there I might …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:38 AM
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Out of like 500+ first messages followed by anemic conversation I’ve probably only had 3 or 4 decent ones on the app but those weren’t even that good compared to irl convos. All the women on the apps who I had good convos with led to nothing. And it’s always hilarious to see how insecure and shy these stand offish women are in person. Hilarious how many dates end up being a mutual no go after how much filtering was done to get to me which is why women having choice isn’t always good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:57 PM
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Ask yourself this, how many times did you message a girl on a dating app but ended up having a zero effort conversation from her? Men without self respect will just assume they did something wrong some how in two lines of text to turn a girl cold but the reality is that she’s just giving the bare minimum interaction to appear polite because she is most likely having to juggle conversations with other men. And in the end she will often have no substantive conversations with any of the men on her …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:46 PM
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Choice paralaysis is pretty commonly studied and grocery stores are often looked at. Likewise you rarely have more than than 4 or 5 choices for the same item or ingredient. It’s not as if all the goods in a grocery store are interchangeable whereas all matches on a dating app are potential boyfriends. https://youtu.be/6DYgImG1CKo?si=9j4w6pQbLywB5jIa
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:40 PM
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Yes women receive too much attention which prevents them from making rational choices (yes behavioral anthropologists say that when you have more than 8 o 9 choices, your brain is not capable of juggling and comparing different pros and cons of prospective partners. As a result “ick culture” has taken the place of seeking compatibility as women can only avoid negatives once they have so many choices) And it goes without saying that women having too much choice is bad because this comes at the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:25 PM
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Yes this is mostly the case but I’m pretty sure sex is usually like the second most common reason. I’m just specifically talking about AFBB scenarios and how that is being misinterpreted by redpillers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:19 PM
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https://discreetinvestigations.ca/infidelity-statistics-who-cheats-more-men-or-women/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20General%20Social,gender%20gap%20varies%20per%20age. Redpill is almost becoming a massive red flag that you’re bad at sex (RP men probably don’t know where the clit is). If you get cheated on, it’s not because she found an alpha, it is because you weren’t dicking her good enough The very existence of AFBB and RP theories about men getting cheated on as if it’s an epidemic is my ane…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:44 PM
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How is this not a shitpost
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:23 PM
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We’ll get modded out of here soon (you need flair), but there was a study on the Reddit front page recently that was popular that showed that “insecurity” was one of the top reasons why women reject men nowadays (it may have been a particular age group)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:56 PM
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“Lying by omission” That’s just what you tell yourself so you can sleep at night. It wasn’t fake. It was brief. He left when he found something he didn’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:34 PM
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18 and 19 is most often too young and even college seniors dating frosh meat I think is an open form of predatory dating. But I’d argue someone 30 dating a 21 yo is more ethical than a college senior dating a high school senior. You get a lot of adult experience in the ages 18-19. I dated a 19 yo once and campfire rules apply. And she was aware of the difference and was proactive about whether things were good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:30 PM
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AFBB is literally just a cope that it’s the betas who missed out on a fun time when they were young who cheat so they pretend that married women all just want to get gorilla fucked when in reality most men don’t have to deal with being cheated on and red pilled men regularly get cheated on for being shit humans
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:47 PM
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How could he have lied then if he didn’t say anything? There’s a reason why when this topic comes up, that you just end up hearing someone’s baggage. Whenever you hear baggage in reference to a topic like this, it’s usually the case that the person who has baggage has little self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:41 PM
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It’s complicated. Men on average have a higher libido. But we want LTRs as much as women. Men have much lower standards for sure for who they will have sex with. That doesn’t mean it’s on the floor for every man, but the standards for a ONS for most men will be lower than a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:38 PM
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Statistically speaking they end up cheating on their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:36 PM
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Tinder and social media has gotten some thots addicted to cheap attention and validation. I think it is cool if you show off your stuff but so many of the women posting these things online like to appear available and single at bars with their boyfriend. They don’t like it when their boyfriend does PDA. They always want to appear to be on the market. That’s why those women are trash not because of the insta posts themselves per se So it can be a red flag for hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:57 PM
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No they’re saying it’s 25. My personal opinion is that 2 years of living away from home after 18 is age+experience necessary to consent to life choices. You might not make good ones though at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:36 PM
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Women tend to think men who change their mind are liars so if the relationship ends before it starts, women project “fake” and “he used me for sex” when he most likely was looking for a relationship and realized you weren’t it. Sure he could have said he was looking for something serious in the beginning. Doesn’t mean it has to be with you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:24 PM
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It just has to be that it’s more common among women than men. You’re being pedantic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:19 PM
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If it’s a first date with someone you don’t know well, then you’d be right to be suspicious of someone who acted this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:16 PM
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Again this isn’t about casual sex in general. I’ve done casual before. But someone who has casual relationships is not necessarily hooking up with strangers regularly. Most high libido women prefer good dick over lots of dick
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:11 AM
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So what you’re saying is that women who want more sex have less of a preference for having an orgasm? Wouldn’t you think it the other way around? “Maybe they get pleasure from casual sex without orgasm” Yeah that’s kind of my point. There is something else than sexual pleasure alone that makes them want to have sex with a lot of different people. Tbh it would be more fair to say a rate than a total n count. Most redpillers are absurd. If you factor in 3-4 ltrs, having sex with people you dated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:09 AM
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Who knows maybe the reason why whores don’t cum is because they think the next guy will do it for them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:18 AM
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That’s not what I’m saying. Casual sex with lots of different people (eg lots of hookups) are indicative of poor mental health. We know statistically they aren’t having orgasms from it so it’s not for sexual pleasure so it’s most likely they’re fucked in the head FWB where two people are cumming regularly with each other is probably two people who have good mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:15 AM
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I’ll correct my post to casual sex but with a lot of different men. Sure everyone has a casual relationship or two but people who are having sex with new people regularly generally have mental health issues. This is the minority of women. Most women don’t have casual sex at all and of those women having casual sex, not all are having it with lots of different men. The ones who are aren’t cumming and have mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:11 AM
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Most chads lie bc they are insecure af too. Most high libido women are not going for Chad specifically and a decent amount are not sleeping around because good dick>>>lots of dick. The minority of women have a hoe phase and it’s usually due to mental health issues. Yes I met a girl on tinder who was talking about having someone move in with her but then proceeded to fuck me in the back of her car in the parking lot on the first date and she even had lube in the glove box. She was an absolutely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:49 AM
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Situationship culture is a woman’s invention to avoid direct communication once easy sex became democratized by tinder. These girls would have found out sooner than later that these guys didn’t want LTRs if current toxic communication norms weren’t in place. But say you just want casual on a dating app then you get no matches yet I have matched with women who were explicitly looking for casual but we’re too embarrassed to be up front about it. Gurantee most of those guys who fucked them are dece…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:30 AM
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Im talking about women who want relationships. The women you refer to are in the minority. And having dated a HL woman, they don’t want to be dumped either. People who have good sex do it more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:21 AM
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That’s half the story. I find just as many jaded women who don’t realize they are unhappy because of their own messed up behavior not their exes. And they will continue to delude themselves but now they are protecting their egos as well. Breakup=man’s fault is still huge in our culture. Many of these women will never admit fault to any past relationship failure. There’s something I call the “fun to stability” ratio. Women have different preferences and they can change over time. But many women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:15 AM
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You’d think women would be more disgusted with themselves that they aren’t having functional long term relationships. It’s almost as if they can’t separate being treated well by a man and his worth as a man. It’s like women assume that high value man=treated well. And very few seem to understand that how you are treated by men depends on how you treat men. Like you said, they think they can just “find” someone who treats them better. And these women also don’t understand that the men pumping and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:05 AM
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Many women would rather nowadays get pumped and dumped by someone out of their league than to have an actual relationship with a man who doesn’t validate their insecurities by being a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:56 AM
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Men on average have more partners than women. Men settle later in life typically. Men have “medium term” relationships in their 20s to early 30s before they pick their one and only to marry. But men in their 20s and early 30s still may want more than a short term casual partner, so they have relationships with expiration dates instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:06 PM
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If she isn’t begging for it then I’m not interested 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:51 PM
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We’ve white washed promiscuity in an effort to combat slut shaming. The baby was thrown out of the bath water. No most women do not have casual sex for healthy reasons. They usually are not having an orgasm (they are actually even more likely not to). A lot of these women basically have access to cheap/fake intimacy on tap. They often don’t feel good enough for relationships so they settle for the next best thing that doesn’t involve real emotional intimacy. Lots of the men they fuck are probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:48 PM
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Yeah I seriously don’t understand why broke women think they can expect anything more than starting a family with someone similarly broke. Wealthy men only see broke women as holes and it’s sad to see these women hoping otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:34 PM
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It’s usually in reference to how much they make relative to women. A lot of women are broke losers too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:18 PM
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No they won’t do this because the entire point is that some women do work their man doesn’t ask for so they can use it as leverage for manipulation later. I highly suggest everyone keep track of things your partner does for you that you do care about and things your partner does you don’t care about and watch out if your partner becomes resentful for doing things for the couple that you personally could care less about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:55 PM
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We are culturally gynocentric at this point. But you even seen LGBT couples behaving in ways that mimic patriarchal norms. Some trans men think transitioning means they have to do locker room talk. Traditional family structures are sticky in areas where people have the choice to not be traditional. It’s also important to note that “nature” existed before patriarchy and patriarchy often perpetuates a caricature of natural conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:25 PM
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Depends if I’m having to rear her along with the children. And tbh child rearing from the father is equally important and child psychologists say fathers bring important and unique benefits when the kid is around 4 or 5. My dad made more than 5x my mom but he came to more baseball games etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:21 PM
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At least my children are at school/getting an education while I’m at work. What will you be doing? Maintaining your appearance 😂 Or is this some kind of sexual fantasy you have of taking off a button down shirt? In reality, when I’m tired from work, I am not in the mood to fuck. So if you aren’t a better cook than me, why should I date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:18 PM
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Ew commies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:08 PM
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That would involve me being some kind of sovereign citizen. If you are a part of society then you participate. There’s only piecemeal dismantling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:04 PM
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I know AND I don’t mind. But I think like 95% of women are not upfront with the fact that giving them an orgasm typically involves doing something that does not give mutual sexual pleasure. Imagine dating a guy where every time you had sex, he wanted a BJ or HJ to get him off because penetration won’t make him cum. That’s literally 85% of women. Now I have tended to attract the 15% of women who prefer penetration and it is genuinely more work from personally experience and men only think they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:02 PM
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Yeah. There’s this conspiracy among men online that you’ll get arrested for doing this. That’s because these men hyper focus on comments and posts made my terminally online bitter cunts and take their perspective as gospel when in reality most people (man or woman) entertain and typically like polite compliments from strangers. We are pretty deep into the “men are afraid to give compliments” era. My friend I occasionally go out to bars with is an insta model type attractive and she only gets com…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:59 PM
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I’m 6’3 and attractive. More options usually means more bad options but it makes me feel bad for men who have no options because they are often forced to date awful women because they’d be alone otherwise and they have so little experience with women to not know how awful they are being treated. Practically speaking being attractive probably is more of a marginal effect than people think on n count (mines over a dozen at 27). It does give you more agency in the relationship itself. I’ve never ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:51 PM
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There is no “benefit” to having basic rights. It’s that women didn’t have basic rights for a long time, not that governments were explicitly acting to benefit men. The world was sexist; it was not trying to give men a leg up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:44 PM
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So you’re saying because men the majority of occupy elite positions, then that means society doesn’t have to make institutions that take care of men as a whole? How is that not just being a bitter stick in the mud? I’ll put it clearer for you: the men occupying positions of elite power do not only not help men but hurt men as a whole. Patriarchy is also misandrist believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:42 PM
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Society is still fundamentally patriarchal. The issue is pseudo feminists who think this means men live in paradise and women are slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:39 PM
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I don’t see how these are contradictory statements. You can stay in a relationship and stop trying to make it work. People can become complacent. I don’t think it’s a gender issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:26 PM
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Clits are boring. I like them but that’s why basically. Fundamentally selfish sex organ. Exists to be pleased and not to please
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:21 PM
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I thought girls were more into the hate sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:19 PM
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Because she doesn’t want it as much as the guy. I’ve never experienced this (been in a 6 year LTR). She came so she wanted the D
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:18 PM
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Most men want a partner, not another child
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:12 PM
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Transactional women are incapable of unconditional love so no (I’m attractive enough anyway.) I’ll do bb mistresses. If money is why she is there I’d be glad to do a lot of things with her except raise a family lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:07 PM
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The terminally online women who say they have a problem with this will still act like stuck up cunts even at a bar. Ignore them because they are khamikazeeing love and romance just because they are insecure and don’t like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:04 PM
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And “texting game” is destroying sexuality because adults under 25 want to be turned on by a text but none of them have the social skills to have non awkward interactions in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:24 PM
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This is not an either or. Looks are the primary motivator for attraction for women. But attraction is not the primary motivator for women to want a relationship. Money is more important but I’d argue it’s stability generally moreso than money per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:22 PM
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Selectivity≠ick culture Ick culture is not in women’s own self interest. If you pick a partner on the basis of them not doing things you find unattractive then you’ll have nothing positive to bond over. There is never going to be a man in an LTR who isn’t going to give you the ick at some point. I would also say that women’s selectivity can be at the expense of men’s selectivity. One reason why relationships are failing at similar rates despite extra choice is because men aren’t being selective …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:14 PM
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Just ask yourself this question: How many men have dedicated themselves toward the cause of feminism? How many women care about men’s issues? It’s disgusting that people are starting to think that each gender has to solve their own issues. You’re just a loser with a big ego who is probably sexist if you don’t think mutual cooperation between the genders is necessary for both women’s and men’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:07 PM
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Lol why do the mods let this shit stay up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:05 PM
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The bots are a part of the business model. They’ve been using fake accounts to keep men on the app (drip feeding real women). The fact that this has gotten worse is evidence of the fact that the developers are aware of it. Yes I used tinder as well close to launch and it didn’t have this issue. I think there’s a potential whistleblower scenario because I think it is unethical to use fake accounts to scam men out of their money. I never know if according to this sub whether I’m successful or not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:55 PM
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Fair enough but I’d argue then there is nothing about traditional dynamics that implies men have to chase. I’d state that it’s traditional for men to initiate and toxic for women to play hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:44 PM
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This is the other side of the coin of women are wonderful syndrome. Not every attractive woman is good for an LTR either due to incompatibility or objective flaws. And incompatibility for LTR doesn’t necessarily mean that FWB/casual wouldn’t work. But most women can’t cope with having sex with a man they can’t extract value from
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:11 PM
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Being the pursuer is the most powerful position when the person being pursued is vulnerable. But I think it’s possible that most women don’t feel this way in relationships or avoid feeling that way. The pursuer dictates the terms of progression. The existence of ultimatums is because women have to do ultimatums to bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:09 PM
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Yep. Blue pill is co reactionary to red pill. But I’d argue focusing on looks alone is more black pill than red pill. Red pill is general life maxing which includes looksmaxxing. Blue pill is simply the version that you need to personality maxx/unlearn misogyny A lot of blue pill folks act like blue pill is status quo when in reality, we have effectively not gone a generation or two without serious shifts the dating marketplace since the Industrial Revolution. Wage labor had a significant impact…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:04 PM
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She probably got a dm from some guy posing as a Saudi prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:03 PM
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“If there’s a man who has it better than a woman, facts don’t matter to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:03 PM
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Can confirm tinder is only good for pumping and dumping mid females
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:04 AM
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Because they’re not gay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:21 PM
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Women need to start to get that the men fucking them from tinder aren’t all that attracted to them either. The feeling is often mutual but women are more repulsed by what they don’t find attractive than men. Men will fuck something they don’t find attractive once.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:45 PM
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Absolutely false. Ugly jealous people are shitty to pretty people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:32 PM
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Women feel so victimized by their relationship failures that they don’t have the emotional energy to empathize with men. And ironically this is exactly what makes women incapable of having relationships with men. Women want to have men’s struggles be out of sight and out of mind for them and have the relationship play out like a movie to them. There is no room in this movie for their lover to feel insecure about not being able to find a girlfriend because this would mean she is not dating a desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:11 AM
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Most agree that NPD and BPD are wildly under diagnosed because that would involve people with those disorders accepting flaws about themselves. It’s probably worse for NPD though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:34 PM
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Homophobic women don’t want to risk dating a man who has access to easy sex. Women know they can manipulate straight men by seeming to be their only supply of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:14 PM
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This also explains why redpill men seem so afraid to be cheated on because they are going after impulsive women who most likely have one of these mental disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:07 PM
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Yeah I know because most of my relationships have been with women I’ve met with IRL. Rejection rate is a fraction of what it is on OLD. You can gauge chemistry with conversation in person. Most women who act standoffish on an app usually don’t have the confidence to dominate a conversation irl. You can flirt as an opener irl without having women automatically assume you’re going to use them for sex. I’ve never met a girl IRL where I had to break through some arbitrarily long texting phase before…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:19 PM
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No chad harems are a myth sold to red pill losers so redpill influencers can promise them some fake dating paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:02 PM
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No women don’t reject 98% of men irl and men don’t go after half of women irl. But that’s what the stats are for OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:00 PM
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3 LTRs and over a dozen other casual/hookups so I guess it’s probably around 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:56 PM
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Social media has created an epidemic of insecurity among women and they lash out by being stuck up cunts on OLD it’s not that complicated Dating a man with the same SMV would be a blow to their ego because they can’t look in the mirror. Pump and dump them it is I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:40 PM
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Literally the decline of casual sex in the general population correlates perfectly with the arrival of tinder style OLD. Apps like tinder breed insecurity. They either tell you that you’re too ugly for people to even consider having sex with you, or you are so low value that you’re not worth anything more than someone to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:39 PM
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Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. The data from apps is pretty clear that this is what is happening. There are neither Chad harems nor are dating apps a perfect meritocracy. It’s men fucking women they’d never want a relationship with and women getting fucked by men who will never want a relationship with them. This is what happens to relationships and romance when superficial traits are emphasized (a short bio with photos). The more dating apps are like shopping for people, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:37 PM
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hurrr durrr jUsT wOrLd fALlacY
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:33 PM
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Yes it’s easy. But also it’s better to have a one night stand with a girl you’re not gonna miss. Pussy below my looksmatch still feels good and tbh looks don’t count all that much for sexual chemistry. I’ve stuck around with women I’ve “slept down” with if they show me a good enough time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:53 AM
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I’m not divorced myself so I would not consider. I’d pick A, but the context is important. I’d possibly pick B over A if she was childless and A seemed like she did things that were unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:00 PM
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Keep a tally of your housework. The “lazy husband” trope is huge and a lot of women when they are unhappy in the relationship will blame it on you not pulling your weight. With an abusive ex, I set up a white board with all the chores to do around the house and I’d mark a tally when I’d do a chore. Lo and behold I did more than the cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:10 PM
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I feel the same. I bought only some clothes for my ex but I’d usually pick her outfits for her. She also initiated the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:41 PM
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Would bet large sums of money that every man who didn’t give you commitment wants commitment but just not with you Yes women I don’t find attractive enough don’t get into relationships with me usually and it would make no difference if they waited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:05 PM
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Who said sex you don’t wait for is unprotected?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:04 PM
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If he has your number then you’re on his rotation. If you don’t put out then he’ll move onto the the next girl but that doesn’t mean he won’t keep you in your back pocket. Had sex on the first date with my ex of 6 years. If we are alone and sexual tension is there and you purposely avoid escalating it to “weed me out” then I’m probably going to see you as someone who’d withhold sex in a relationship to bargain so if Id no longer consider you as a partner. It makes me feel like I’m a liar and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:31 PM
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You can’t have the positive without the negative. Lots of women want to hear their man say I love you more than they do but often they don’t want to hear them complain about something making them depressed. “Tell that to your therapist” was told to me in a relationship dozens of times. It was awful because I’d be expressing things about the relationship and she didn’t want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:21 PM
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People act like this is a binary. Lots of women have self awareness as to when provocative clothing might be inappropriate but will wear that clothing where it is appropriate. And yes, I do think somethings are appropriate on some people’s bodies but not others. But imo we need to tell men with plumber butts to wear belts. You probably shouldn’t wear a bikini if you’re very obese
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:48 PM
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Yes. All women after I turned 21 about. Younger women didn’t seem to care. I had a high school sweetheart. The girls I dated in college had a naive outlook on finding their husband in school so they were all for being love bombed more or less (not that I did it much, but I’m saying love bombing works on younger women). But after school my emotions get put under a microscope when dating women who are relatively independent. A lot of them feel strongly that there is an appropriate time for men to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:45 PM
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Lol the person who replied to you isn’t so good with stats so here’s a link: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/04/16/success/husbands-wives-earning-division-of-labor-pew-survey/index.html (Husbands can be lazy when they make less as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:44 PM
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The problem nowadays is women think doing ANYTHING the man wants, but is also a sacrifice for yourself, IS SERVITUDE
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:42 PM
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I’ve been “loved hard” by women who became codependent but still couldn’t understand reciprocation. I also think there’s some evopsych logic behind the fact that some women can only love people who are vulnerable and at risk who most often tend to be their children. Often for them the husband is merely there to create a safe environment with the resources for the woman to love her family but the woman can’t love her husband because she doesn’t think he needs it as much as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:41 PM
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No, she can get pumped and dumped by attractive men. Too many dumb women on the app think every man who messages and matches with them is an opportunity. The attractive men on the apps still often have to match with women below their looksmatch and they will never give these women commitment. It’s pretty simple, if you’re a woman just ask yourself “am I his looksmatch?” If no then it’s not likely he’s gonna be your bf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:11 PM
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Men have to stop giving commitment to women incapable of reciprocation. One big red flag is that these types of women are often too close to their father. Often still refer to them as daddy in their adulthood. They are not looking for a partner. They are looking for a daddy replacement. Do not do anything more than FWB with these cretins. There are also women who exploited if they aren’t taking more from the relationship than they give. Watch for these women to whine and squeal when you refuse a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:09 PM
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Emotions generally or emotions about the person? If generally, I don’t repress myself. I express those emotions freely. But whenever I express positive emotions ABOUT her before she does then she gets the ick so I wait for her to show positive emotions first. It’s awful having to wait. Otherwise I’ll say I love you to a dog I just met on the street
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:28 PM
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The people who think cold approaching is always wrong are the antisocial ones incapable of reading the room. They probably can’t even make small talk with service staff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:59 AM
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The men who have dated are more embarrassed to admit when they struggle. Incels have nothing to lose. Men in relationships often take a holier than thou attitude, but that’s usually just their first serious relationship. There are plenty of men here who have had multiple LTRs like myself and know firsthand what women can be like in relationships. Even the angry incels here often still put women on a pedestal but they’d feel differently if they had experience. But ironically their lack of experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:44 AM
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Very often this is true. But there are people with lower standards where this is true too. I think antisocial tendencies among the general population has been rising. One of the consequences is that people see relationships as a form of consumption and not a partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:36 AM
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Stats say it’s pretty equal among men and women when it comes to preference for LTRs and slightly more men want to become fathers than women want to become mothers. We perceive that men only want sex because they settle later in life. If you’re dating a man under 35, there’s a good chance he doesn’t think you’re the last woman he’ll date in life/needs to be convinced otherwise. Also if you’re a woman who uses tinder, it’s highly likely you’re picking men who don’t think you’re worth committing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:33 AM
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Dick to the extent that they just want to get laid. Brain to the extent that they are picking the easy ones
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:13 AM
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Men approach women they think are easy if they just want to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:33 PM
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It can be “cute” at first. She’ll ask you to so favors and you’ll oblige without question. This is something women like this do to shit test men to see how far they’d go to self sacrifice. Either try FWB with women like this or at some point say that you’re not going to do random shit for her unless she returns the favor in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:19 PM
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Stop giving commitment to women like this. Women act this way because men give them way too much leverage after sex. If you have sex with a woman and then she thinks you’re under her thumb then you’re doing it wrong. Men are too desperate for women to act right today
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:08 PM
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“Men who don’t approach are broken” Wat Guess all women are broken
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:04 PM
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“I’ll come up with any rationalization possible to maintain a double standard” You’re assuming your future husband is a dog who needs to act the right way in order to prove he doesn’t want to just get in your pants. Newsflash: The men who just want to fuck you and not give you commitment will do it regardless if you approach. The men who want commitment from will want it regardless if you approach. Men aren’t animals who go “wOMaN aSk mE oUt. nOw I oNLy wAnT to fUck. NO RELATION!” 🦍🦍🦍🦍 If anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:00 PM
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Class issue. Many upper class women who want daddy replacements instead of a partner do indeed act this way in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:53 PM
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It’s bad when you have low smv and are only attracted to people who don’t see you having high enough smv to be worth giving commitment to. Also picking men with your pussy sometimes means you’re not picking men with your brain
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:50 PM
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PPD, incels and redpill folks massively underestimate how desperate some women are nowadays but they don’t act the same way as desperate men. Women having issues with men who have standards is a sign that women are becoming desperate as well. “Take me as I am” culture among women nowadays is often a coping mechanism for rejection. It’s because they want a man who sees that they are shit from the beginning but are fine with it. They usually were dumped by an ex after he found out what they really…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:44 PM
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Emotional vulnerability triggers protective instincts in me. Doesn’t matter if it’s a man, woman or child. Lots of women need to learn better to be protective of men who show vulnerability. And specifically cishet men their own age since women will be protective of gay men, trans men and male children readily. Many women have an ape brain they need to fight where they only show compassion towards those they think are weak and vulnerable (eg children and disabled). But they think that the roles s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:29 PM
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Sizable meaning a third. If anything it shows that 2/3 of lesbian perpetrators are violent enough to offset the rate from what het women experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:56 PM
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This is not how the stats work. They measure rates not aggregates. You’re basically assuming that you can cut the rate of IPV down by a third to get the “real” rate of lesbian IPV. Even if you do that, the rate then becomes basically equal to that of het women. But that’s not what the stat measures. If 100% of lesbian women only suffered IPV from men, it would be unlikely that their rate of IPV would be much different than het women. It’s that the 2/3 of lesbians experience IPV from other women …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:47 PM
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Go cry in the shower king 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:55 AM
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Splitting seems the norm so I usually don’t have to ask. I usually offer to pay in full unless they offer first. The smaller the bill, the more I’ll fight for paying in full. I have offered to split when a girl insisted on paying in full (she asked me out). She got angry and I backed off and let her pay for my boba tea. Then we fucked in the parking lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:50 AM
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People who are afraid of showing emotions are bitches. Lots of men are bitches in this way. People who afraid of being shown emotions are bitches. Lots of women are bitches in this way. Fuck a bitch I’d be like this to your gf “oh did me crying make your pussy dry?!?! Boohoo that’s ok I don’t want to fuck you again anyway” you can still own your emotions and be in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:24 PM
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I guess tl:dr I’m saying that people are framing the problem that women initiating divorce is a bad thing. It’s not. The lack of initiative from men is what is problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:49 PM
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Nope. The women who hit on me irl are always about 2 points above lookswise than what I match with on OLD. The apps are filled with women who only need makeup and filters to look prettier than they are meanwhile men need to hire professional photographers to buff their smv. Basically OLD is for people who are too superficial to want someone who presents honestly. They need a fake presentation to be interested because you’ll most likely have more terminally online Instagram addicts on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:48 PM
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There are a lot of men who are misogynistic because they are single just like there are a lot of women who are misandrist because they were traumatized by an ex. Most perpetrators are victims. It’s called the cycle of violence. Most shitty people have been victimized at some point. If you’ve been a victim, I’ll be sympathetic but I won’t be your friend unless it seems you’ve worked on your trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:20 PM
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Yes a significant amount of lesbians have had IPV from men but given your data, 2/3 of lesbian IPV is between is probably between women at the very least because I take your data to mean that 2/3 of lesbians have had no male perpetrators Again if mEn was the reason why lesbians have such high rates of IPV then gay men would also have high rates of IPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:17 PM
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We have IPV studies. Are you seriously going to make the claim that men target lesbians more than straight women? If lesbians have higher rates of IPV due to men then why do heterosexual women have lower rates of IPV than lesbians? And if men are the main perpetrators of IPV then why do gay men have the lowest rate of IPV? Likewise that’s still a just a 1/3. But I wouldn’t be surprised if someone wants to interpret that as 2/3s of lesbians have had more than one male perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:11 PM
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“Women learn to hate half the human race by the way they were treated by a man (or two) they foolhardily chose to be attracted to” Damaged goods are usually sexist goods
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:11 PM
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If anything being independent should make relationships less risky and more for “real” reasons. You’ve just listed a bunch of reasons why you’d need to “depend” on a man. Not reasons why you’d want one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:09 PM
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It’s not that men are shitty and women don’t like it. Lesbians divorce for similar reasons at higher rates. It’s just that men tolerate shitty wives more than women tolerate shitty husbands. That said, men do the majority of the extreme poor behavior in marriage (well rates of IPV are still higher in lesbian relationships). But I’d argue if men had more self respect, they’d divorce more than they currently do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:06 PM
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I think there is a degree of separation. It’s not being ugly itself necessarily (although that will fundamentally determine the outcome) but that ugly men probably are more often met with resistance which in turn makes them more persistent and anti social with their behavior. I still think the majority of women will give the benefit of the doubt of a cold approach but they will respond to the first approach and if it’s negative then back off which I think a lot of men don’t do. It really should …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:35 PM
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So I’ve joined clubs, gym memberships w/classes, became a vendor at a farmers market, and found the local bars where regulars go and I haven’t expanded my social circle much at all since Covid. I don’t think people who give this advice have actually created a “social circle” that way but I’m sure they’ve made a friend or two and are projecting. There’s some studies about this but most people get their social circle from either school or mutual friends via their partner. Yes indeed if you do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:26 PM
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That’s what you have to do to get a date on tinder. That’s why women so often get pumped and dumped on tinder because these men are gritting their teeth by forcing themselves to have sex with women who’d never meet their standards irl. And then no one is happy. That’s the current state of tinder reality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:13 PM
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Chads/Chad harems are a myth. There are just women who have specific types picking men who feel ambivalent about them so they pump and dump because the woman is getting what she wants in her choice in partner (at least on the cover) but the man really is not. He fits her specific criteria, but she’s “hot enough” at least for a night for him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:00 PM
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That’s probably because even though he’s ugly or poor, that you’re probably still uglier and or poorer than him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:59 PM
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It’s complicated. I’m not the biggest expert on men’s studies. I know that Warren Farrell guy became popular at some point and it still seemed to me like he was somewhat on the fringe as an academic, although I don’t think he was particularly controversial. I never saw a men’s studies course at my university but took gender studies/feminist courses that were widely available. I think in hindsight third wave feminism wasn’t as bad as it’s detractors said at the time. But I think that’s like any m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:21 AM
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No it was a term coined by a sociologist to refer to service workers who have to put on a smiley face when customers are harassing them. The first study was about flight attendants White feminists appropriated the term to refer to when men who have crushes on them feel safe enough to be vulnerable to them and they get the ick. They typically don’t want to assert boundaries and tell themselves it’s about men exploiting their mental health services they could decline to give at any moment to avoid…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:34 AM
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I agree it’s a bastardized term. And I also think that it’s about setting boundaries and that it’s usually not a problem. It’s not hard to say “that sucks, but I’m not qualified so talk to a professional” but telling a woman to see a therapist can also be insulting. I’ve experienced inappropriate emotional intimacy from women who are in relationships. I think there is a type of emotional intimacy that should be reserved for romantic partnerships, although I understand this can be a matter of pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:23 AM
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There are chronic female users and they are a part of the business model. Tinder wants women who can get dates but not commitment. It keeps the revolving door going. These girls become addicted to the app because they don’t get the attention IRL that they get in apps
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:18 AM
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And most of the women are bots. So 1:4 is still a lowball.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:17 AM
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Most things dumb women think are red flags are actually icks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:07 AM
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I prefer to do the emotional labor after the sex. I do not enjoy that game This generally applies more to women with bfs who want orbiters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:47 AM
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Going on a date with one of these gremlins is the reason why I stopped OLD. She “forgot her wallet” so I paid (it’s NYC). I don’t call/text her back after the date and nor does she. 48 hours later she’s changed every pic on her profile. Absolutely pathetic that she probably was hurt over the fact that I didn’t follow up yet she probably had no intention of dating me in the first place. Absolutely fucked in the head. Apart from that I’ve had my fair share of “gross sex” on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:42 AM
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Because tinder creates a hyperreality for mid women who get more attention on the app than they would in real life. They stay on the app to avoid confronting the reality that they aren’t as attractive as the app makes them feel. They will probably not find a guy who sticks around. They are probably dating men above their looksmatch who aren’t that attracted to them and either don’t continue seeing them or they fuck her once out of desperation but rarely more than once. Chronic female users will …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:36 AM
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Y’all live in an alternate reality. I like making small talk and bantering with people I’ve just met. I prefer to do it with people I find attractive. Y’all are admitting you’re company is not enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:33 AM
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In the long run it hurts the woman more. Which I think is a warning call for women: don’t pick a man who you think is settling for you. But that means you might have to pick a guy who is excited to be with you which may mean he has lower smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:31 AM
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This is because men are not allowed to guilt women for giving them emotional labor. That’s only something women get to do. If you complain about giving women emotional labor, they will say that you just wanted to get in her pants and are being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:29 AM
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Personally I think feminism could have done the job, but 4th wave feminism has more or less explicitly gone down the route of gaslighting, sexism and self centeredness If patriarchy hurts men, then patriarchy is misandrist. Feminists try to self center women and try to rationalize that men suffer from misogyny at the hands of patriarchy not misandry. And these arguments are incredibly limited to things like how we consider homophobia and emasculation is misogynistic when a considerable amount of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:27 AM
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Their choice pool is even smaller for hookups. Most women do not do hookups. Slightly more men do. Men perceive that hooking up is a privilege purely because demand from men for casual sex for outstrips the supply provided by women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:02 AM
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I agree that women pick the best of their given type, but I’d argue that the “type” itself is still causing more of a bottleneck than there being an objective scale of Chad and less Chad men. Is Chad muscular? Not if skinny skater dude is her type. Is Chad groomed? Not necessarily. And no women’s choices are not that abundant. Women’s preference to only date the best of their particular type doesn’t match demographic reality. Society as a whole has become more prude as women’s preferences have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:51 PM
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Forget what it’s called but there’s a sex worker confession sub. A decent amount of sex workers are misandrist and view male sexuality as pathetic and something to expropriate. I’m sure a lot of them had sexual trauma when younger and I actually think a lot of them have trouble feeling physical pleasure during sex. To a lot of sex workers, sex fundamentally seems like work to them. I think a lot of them feel that sex inherently benefits men over women which is why they feel like they need to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:32 PM
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I’m not chad. Women don’t agree on who the most attractive men are. Women have types and if anything this explains more why men don’t get matches. Women don’t ignore simps for the few chads. Women ignore men who aren’t their “type” then only date their type. Women have preferences in partners that most men could care less about: tattoos, clothing style, hair color and hair-do, a specific body type, has a specific set of similar interests. Personally I could date a girl with or without tattoos. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:26 PM
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The hypocrisy is more that we encourage sex workers as being empowered while shaming their customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:20 PM
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Zoomers have weaponized language used for psychology. As a coping mechanism for their sensitivity they have decided most forms of judgement to be a form of hatred. Like slut shaming has been criticized for a while but it was rarely the case that this implied that all forms of promiscuity should go unjudged. Nowadays even if a girl a sex addict, we are told that it is misogynistic to judge her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:18 PM
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I’ve had women INSIST on paying. They tend to want hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:30 PM
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Mmmm in threads like that in particular it could be 90% of the women there. Maybe not on PPD as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:51 PM
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Men are overqualified for most of their tinder matches. Most of my dates on tinder have been below my looksmatch whereas irl dates/relationships have mostly been with my looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:49 PM
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Make any thread about how it’s better to reject someone openly then you’ll have several women saying they don’t because they don’t want to be murdered. They basically assume men they reject are Joran van der Sloot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:45 PM
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That’s the point of the brand: to make women seem like they say one thing then fuck another thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:55 PM
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Men looking to start a family there late 30s and 40s date women younger because women after 37 have exponentially more issues conceiving. There’s no looks wall but there’s definitely a fertility wall and it’s called menopause
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:43 PM
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The amount of young men who think they’ll get arrested for talking to women in public is wild. I talk to women in public all the time and have yet to be arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:41 PM
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Scenario 1: first date, you’re making out and it feels like things could escalate then she says she’d rather take things slow. That’s fine. Scenario 2: first date, she doesn’t invite you to hers/doesn’t accept the invite to yours, and the goodbye hug is awkward. She’s not getting a call back. There are a lot of women who simply don’t want to test physical chemistry at all and need a certain comfort level only then to have touch initiated sheepishly. They are not my type. Then there are women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:38 PM
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Lol imagine picking up women at a club where it’s 80% dudes and the rest are women and most of those women are bots or hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:15 PM
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Tinder is designed to create a hyperreality for women to get more attention than they normally would in the real world. There are girls who could go to a bar and not have a single man hit on them have tinder blow up with matches. This is because tinder tries to create female chronic users this way by appealing to their insecurities. Then men who aren’t attracted to them match with them but don’t want to sleep with them more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:07 PM
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Femboys and some trans women want to know what it feels like to get showered with attention
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:21 AM
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This is what dating apps have created: men lower their standards to near zero just to get a match so they end up dating women they aren’t attracted to meanwhile women are throwing blind darts at an abundance of matches with only superficial traits to filter them. So you get what OP describes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:56 AM
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Most fat women do not have flattering curves, but some do. But I do think obese BMI (30+) and up, it doesn’t matter how fat your ass is or how big your tits are; you’ll be storing fat in unflattering places If you’re a fat woman on dating apps and you mostly swipe on skinny dudes then you need some self awareness. And rarely will they want to fuck you twice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:52 AM
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It’s easier for me to date casually with women I’m not attracted to vs dating women seriously I’m attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:48 AM
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Zoomers are basically NDs who think that if you ask them how they are doing then they’ll think you want to sleep with them. I’m a guy so I don’t have the ego issue but I do have the issue that most younger women just don’t understand that people flirt and banter because people enjoy the act itself. Don’t ascribe intent to people that they haven’t communicated. The idea that flirting=I’m interested in a relationship is an assumption and it’s not much different than assuming women who wear reveali…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:26 AM
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But too many women want simps also
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:20 AM
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Ok at this point I’m not sure if you’re talking about anything other than entry level jobs. Usually when someone says “we’ll be in touch” it is because it is a first round interview and you are awaiting the second round. Sure you might get ghosted, but you often are told that you aren’t being considered for the position and that’s not rude or impolite. You’re making a straw man by saying the alternative to “letting people down easy” is being rude when in reality it is MORE professional for a rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:17 AM
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Here you’re saying it’s not about danger it’s about being polite: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Zcu8uYGJyU So now we are talking about HR folks firing people? How is that in anyway analogous to being hired? Sure people go postal after feeling wrongfully terminated but can you link me some articles about people getting violent due to job interview rejections?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:13 AM
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Yes this would correlate with the data. Healthy weight women care the least. Which is why I think OP is a little off the money. It’s women who are insecure about themselves who are ruining online dating in large part. And they tend to be overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:10 AM
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Stats are stats. There is no amount of anecdotes that will contradict stats. Just because an astonishing amount of women have had those bad experiences is in no way evidence of how most men behave. Traumatized women are hyperbolic due to the existence of repeat offenders and observer bias. Moreover there is nothing to suggest that rejection was the cause and that these men wouldn’t have assaulted these women anyway. It’s naive to think that these women could have protected themselves simply by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:08 AM
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Wait…. Do you seriously think if men are explicitly rejected by recruiters then men will go postal and shoot up their office or something and that’s why recruiters don’t “reject” men directly? Do they also tell psycho women that they’ll be in touch as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:41 AM
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You hear that boys? You didn’t get the job bc you’re a psychopath lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:39 AM
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Again why do you think that recruiters only say “we’ll be in touch” to crazy people? That’s not true. They don’t say we’ll be in touch because they are crazy, it’s because they don’t want to waste time. It’s not because they think if they tell their candidate that they aren’t qualified then they are risking danger lol Sure “random women” but that would not include someone you are acquaintances with and at least have some rapport. I’m only seeing this apply to strangers interacting. And I don’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:37 AM
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And with someone she’s already in a relationship to. Men generally don’t sucker punch women who they don’t know yet but are rejected by. You’re trying to manipulate a stat about DV to make it about cold approaching I’m sure there are examples of it but statistically it isn’t common enough to justify how some women treat men Granted, this thread is about giving feedback as to why you rejected someone which can be helpful but it also can be pointless. But arguing that women shouldn’t even reject m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:30 AM
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Avoiding confrontation≠assuming someone is psycho unless given proof. It’s literally because why would the recruiter waste time confronting someone for being psycho? They are a recruiter, not a friend or coworker. Recruiters have to consider that they have a schedule where they need to interview other candidates and can’t waste time. And no most times recruiters say “we’ll be in touch” it is not because they think they are psycho. 99% of the time it’s because they are not qualified. Grained recr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:19 AM
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Communicating openly does not entail you telling everyone everything about yourself. There is a base level of civility that everyone gives everyone else and only once they cross a line do people pull back. That’s normal. What’s not normal is assuming someone is a psycho until you trust them. The job recruiter just thinks they’re better candidates than me. It’s not because they think I’m a psycho and frankly I just have to prove to my recruiter that I’m employable. People don’t go to interviews t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:10 AM
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It ruined tinder. I honestly think part of the appeal of tinder is to create a hyperreality for insecure women to get more attention than they normally would in the real world. This has resulted in a lot of entitled behavior from fat women on dating apps. A lot of them are bitter too because the, most likely fitter, men they date fuck them once and don’t want to do it again because they don’t want to fuck the same fat girl more than once. But I think more generally the issue with dating is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:03 AM
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I cannot emphasize to men here enough how much your life and mental health will improve when you start to ignore women who can’t communicate openly with men. You shouldn’t even consider women who feel this way to be anything more than an acquaintance. It would probably be hard to even work with women like this, but I haven’t found that women act this way toward coworkers as often. Avoid people who say they get tired of playing therapist. I’ve had plenty of people come to me for advice about rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:49 AM
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That’s probably the only thing this person thinks is flirting. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been flirted with and not even know it was happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:18 AM
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She’s damaged and sexist because of the damage. It’s really tragic that the women who are most sexist are often the ones that need most protecting. There’s a pattern with me confiding about my history with SA and pretty much exclusively women who also have an extensive history with SA are the absolute worst people to confide about SA with. I think a lot of female victims have sexist notions about SA not being as physically possible toward men. They probably just assume that because men can’t be …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:12 AM
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They aren’t interfering with paychecks nor are they assholes lol if you literally need to be tipped in order to not be annoyed by small talk with customers then pick a different job. When has a lingering customer not been hurried along by a customer waiting behind them or they hurried themselves along when they are shown they are wasting someone else’s time? When I worked at a cash register, customers generally only seemed to linger to talk about random shit when there was no one behind them, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:32 PM
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You can literally make the same argument for literally any activity. “I’m just trying to buy groceries, not entertain assholes” “I’m just trying to work out…” “I’m just trying go to the dog park…” etc. this has nothing to do with any general rule about it only being ok to flirt with women in bars. You’re just saying you’re a curmudgeon who’d rather avoid interacting with strangers you don’t want to. That’s a you thing but sorry to tell you, a lot of people actually enjoy flirting and that doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:12 PM
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BULLSHIT. This is another thing sexist women tell themselves to create boogey men in situations where there aren’t any. Just because service workers stay on the premises during company time to deal with customers does not mean service workers are forced to interact with customers who are dangerous. It’s private property. There are probably few places SAFER. Do these service workers work completely alone? So you’re saying if someone was behaving anti socially, they’d just put up with it, not repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:59 PM
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Men assault more men than they assault women as well. I don’t assume any guy who is bigger than me wants to hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:33 PM
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Depends on how juicy the booty is too. I like to spoon and I guess having some extra length helps with that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:32 PM
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Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:20 PM
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Physical strength is not an indicator of someone’s propensity for violence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:20 PM
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Influencers like Tate have to maintain a brand in order appeal to dumb little virgins. They have to look like they have a cHaD harem but it’s all fake. Tate intentionally gets women to not like him in the general social dialogue so his loser followers can go “see! He gets pussy yet women hate him! That’s because women talk about dating one way in the streets but another way in the sheets!”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:11 PM
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Not a general rule. Service workers flirt with me all the time. Again this “rule” seems to be a symptom of being terminally online and I see more and more younger people who think this. You can have light hearted flirtation without implying that you’re trying to control the other person. Sometimes if people have a spare minute or two, a little banter can make their menial day at work a little more exciting. Again it’s about reading the room and I think people who say not to flirt with workers as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:53 PM
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Just because you’re a woman who owns a cat, that doesn’t make you a cat lady. We are talking about people who get pets as a substitute for human relationships. Granted I think some cat ladies might be more sexist than selfish. I’m sure some swore off men after having a few shitty relationships and now think men fundamentally should be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:47 PM
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You can act selfishly without being selfish. I think there are people who can have relationships but simply don’t want to but I think that’s probably the minority. I just find that a lot of people don’t want relationships because they don’t to deal with the costs associated to relationships. I find that to be “selfish.” Edit: Siri autocorrected can’t to can
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:40 PM
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This is what I mean. You are still held liable for doing damage by accident. But it’s bizzare that we treat these men like we do cat callers. Like a girl hitting on me who doesn’t get the picture isn’t going to make me feel uncomfortable unless it feels like I can’t escape the interaction. For a lot of women, the moment a man they aren’t attracted to tries to come on to them, they become uncomfortable in an almost immediate Pavlovian way. I think that’s partially because these visceral reactions…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:37 PM
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Oh I’m definitely referring to a specific subset of women who are the size queens lol. I guess I’m just saying women who are like that probably have some super primal urge to have that. A lot of these things women find attractive probably are not cultural. But most women know that the average penis is longer than the average vagina is deep. And most obviously orgasm from clitoral stimulation over penetration. Granted I have for some reason dated a lot of women who prefer penetration and some hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:33 PM
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No it’s not less frustrating and it only means what when it happens to us people don’t care. I specifically don’t go to bars that cater to college kids because I tend to assume that women 21 and under have zero boundaries when drunk and will grope you because they think it’s how you flirt or something. It’s hilarious when people criticize men for making women uncomfortable because they can’t “read the room.” If a guy makes someone uncomfortable because he’s socially inept, it’s not entirely his …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:15 PM
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It’s why we have longer average penises than the average primate because human females were size queens. It’s even to the point of irrationality. You can see plenty of women in porn masturbate with dildos that still have inches left despite already bottoming out on their cervix. The idea of a massive cock turns them on even if it doesn’t physically make sense (no not all women are like this, but these are like irrational preferences that are probably somewhat biologically programmed)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:13 PM
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I think this is generational and cultural. I just can’t date this way and apparently that puts me in the minority. If I’m physically attracted to you and have chemistry, I’m not going to repress that. It also makes me feel like I’m some guy that you’re assuming is gross and some kind of sex crazed dog who has to prove to you that I’m a friend in order for you to feel “safe” with me. Having never taken advantage or hurt any women, I do not have any patience for giving women like this peace of min…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:08 PM
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No lol Andrew tate has to pay women to be within his vicinity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:50 PM
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No but women shouldn’t get their panties in a knot if they get criticized for being vain af and it’s hilarious to watch women try to find a man they are both attracted to and won’t treat them like shit. It’s like they are constantly fighting against their dumbass vaginas Granted fat women date skinny men because dating a skinny man makes them feel less ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:36 PM
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If you use social media to network with your friends then great. If you have a business you need to promote them great. If you have a hobby and you use social media to connect with others who share your hobby, then great. If you just post so you can get approval from strangers and have lots of followers you don’t know personally and you’re not really using social media for financial reasons then it’s a pretty big turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:32 PM
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Cats are for people who don’t want to be alone but don’t want the responsibility of a real relationship lol I genuinely believe that a lot of women become cat ladies because mutual reciprocation is too big of an ask for them in relationships. I think like how some men fear commitment, cat ladies fear relationships because it exposes how selfish they are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:29 PM
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Not my personal view but I sympathize with some aspects of it: It’s a waste for people to make decisions that don’t benefit themselves while forgoing opportunities that could have potential. And then according these men, they won’t want to date these women once they become single and have their priorities straight because at that point they’ve been “run in.” They wish women didn’t enter relationships they regret so they could be in relationships with the good guy before she becomes damaged goods…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:22 PM
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The men who rape typically are the ones WHO DONT set off alarm bells. The idea that you can tell from first impression is just “women’s intuition” bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:10 AM
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There are definitely some elements of traditional masculinity that are toxic but people who confuse toxic masculinity with traditional masculinity are just pseudo feminist charlatan misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:03 AM
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Looking at the tinder swipe stats, it’s hard to deny that what is happening is men matching with women they aren’t attracted to and women only match with men who are most likely far above their looksmatch. This is why women think men on tinder only want sex because men on tinder are forcing themselves to go on dates with women they don’t find attractive and usually don’t want to have sex a second time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:26 AM
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Men revert to the opposite because toxic masculinity promotes the notion that all male suffering is caused by the individual man’s own incompetence. As an act of rebellion, young men say all their struggle is everyone else’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:24 AM
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Sample size was 86 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:19 AM
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It could be 10 or a 100 and it wouldn’t change that it’s probably around 5-15% of men who’d commit SA I’ve been assaulted by bisexual men before (as well as straight men but you don’t see me hating half the human race)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:18 AM
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Why does it offend someone if I judge a woman if she avoids men because she is sexist? I think it’s tragic more than offensive. It’s tragic that women become socially dysfunctional after being traumatized by a man and now can’t function around half the world properly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:16 AM
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I know plenty of women who treat men with bad social skills/are ND with kindness. The reason why women treat these men badly is because they associate creepiness with danger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:15 AM
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Oh you mean like how men more often being victims of violent assault at the hands of strangers is downplayed? Women choose to associate with most of the men they are assaulted by. That doesn’t justify women blaming but it also doesn’t justify treating any man who is a stranger guilty till proven innocent like many women who become androphobic after being traumatized by a man. Most of the the most sexist women I know were sexually assaulted by men. We know the stats and sorry if literally telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:14 AM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26168230/ Looks like 10.8% but that’s just rape
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:51 AM
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I just found it: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26168230/ If you look at what portion of the male population is in prison for SA then it’s going to be a low ball number. College aged males is a good data set because you can control for repeat offenses easier. But it’s probably slightly exaggerated data (eg the average college aged male is probably more likely to be a rapist than the average male at any age) My guess is 15%. This study says 10.8 but that’s only rape
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:50 AM
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Women perceive that men just lie to get sex when in reality more men want to be fathers than women want to be mothers and both genders prefer monog LTRs equally. Women perceive this just because men tend to want to settle later in life while having a few LTRs or casual relationships before they settle down and have a family
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:45 AM
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I mean maybe she’s from Pakistan or something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:43 AM
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No I acknowledge what the statistics say. You think 2 out of every 5 men are scumbags because your personal experience has made you sexist. You think that because you’ve had a several men treat you like shit then that means literally 40% of men will. That’s wild
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:41 AM
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It’s difficult to pin down because of repeat perpetrators, but imo this data set probably has the least amount of repeat offenders simply because of the restricted time window and how SA is dealt with on campus. If a 13% to a fifth (that’s the range I see) of women are assaulted on college campuses then factoring non-male offenders and repeat offenders, 15% is probably a decent guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:40 AM
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It can be like homophobia
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:33 AM
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Ok so you probably are just androphobic. It’s kind of crazy how the psychology profession just lets sexism happen when people who experience trauma from other sources usually go through exposure therapy so they can function without being triggered. But when women are traumatized by men we think it’s ok for them to all of a sudden fear a quarter to a half of the world’s population
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:29 AM
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Where are you getting these numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:21 AM
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Within their own age group it’s probably 15% at least that’s what college SA stats seem to say. Among all men it’s probably less than 15% but couldn’t say for sure. Anywhere from 5-15% probably. This includes groping and verbal harassment. For full on SA/rape, it’s probably 3-5% Edit: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26168230/ “Across samples, 178 of 1642 participants (10.8%) reported having perpetrated at least 1 rape from 14 years of age through the end of college.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:19 AM
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I guess I’m saying that if we went back to the 50s there would indeed be fewer single men (and women) and relationship satisfaction wouldn’t actually be much different than today. That’s not what I personally advocate, but men who advocate those things can point to these facts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:08 AM
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I think it’s just as much that social media has encouraged anti social unicorn chasing as it has hypergamy. People are only willing to date some imaginary perfect person in their head that probably doesn’t exist. People think they can have relationships without compromises and don’t think about how what they bring to the table is equally important in having a good relationship. And people think that what they bring to the table is their resume and looks when in reality what you bring to the tabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:54 AM
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I’ve only ever been in relationships where my gf was more dtf than me. Including a 6 year relationship. I think a lot of men fundamentally do not understand the difference between intimacy and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:49 AM
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There were more couples and marriage rate was the highest in the 50s. This is because men had more financial agency than ever in human history while women still couldn’t work and relied on a husband for financial well being. But even with women being basically forced to marry, the divorce rate is basically the same. Granted it’s hard to make real inferences because women began to have more democratic access to the labor market at the same time no fault divorce became legal. But basically there h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:24 AM
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This is because men value their commitment like dog shit and guilt themselves if they don’t want a relationship with a girl they probably only have sexual attraction to. It’s wild that teenagers feel compelled to play house when really they just should be getting their hormones out of their system.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:03 AM
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Naive to assume that the variations in communication preferences do not have general differences between the genders. Likewise even the style of “direct” or “indirect” communication can differ generally between genders. A male indirect communicator might just be avoiding confrontation and female indirect communicators may more likely give silent treatment or expect to have their mind read. Of course you can have exceptions and people of all genders performing all these behaviors but I think it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:59 PM
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Men are very willing to settle for someone who doesn’t meet most of their preferences. Some guys are like “ayyy she’s got one or two of the things I’m looking for” and then the desperation to not be alone is enough for men to just not care that much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:56 PM
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Apparently only 13.5% of men have to date a girl shorter than them https://news2.rice.edu/2014/02/10/is-height-important-in-matters-of-the-heart-new-study-says-yes/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:55 PM
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There seems to be a new radical “girl power” dating sentiment that has combined with pseudo internet feminism. IMO it’s because men who don’t get matches on OLD and could only get dates with women they didn’t like are starting to adopt women’s approach: have standards and stay single until someone meets your standards. It seems women are responding by saying any judgment toward them implying that the guy is less interested is by default misogyny because it’s getting to the point to where men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:47 PM
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There’s so much complexity to break down here. Many in the medical community agree that younger generations seem to have more and more hormonal issues. For some reason we only talk about how it affects men but women have equally been affected by androgen deficiency as a public health issue. I definitely think this is translating toward more women being less sexually active relative to men who may still be horny despite having lower test than normal. I also think that the nature of women’s libido…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:37 PM
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Cultural androphobia is huge
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:39 PM
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Have literally been assaulted by women who act this way. It’s absolutely humiliating. Basically gaslighting is a default mode for women like this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:32 PM
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That is what I’m saying…. But that 12% number still includes couples who became couples before OLD existed. But today 40% of all first dates are with people who met online and that is almost certainly bigger number than how many who get dates through friend groups
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:34 PM
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Yes and I’m telling you that is what the 68% number is saying. If someone got married in 2002 to their friend, then that would factor into the 68% stat. But it wouldn’t affect the 40% stat which is in no way interchangeable with the 12% stat. The 40% stat is referring to how someone single today is going to going to get their next date and that is most likely a larger number than how many single people will get their next date through friends which the 68% stat does not refer to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:18 PM
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SAYING HOW ALL COUPLES MET IS NOT THE SAME AS SAYING HOW NEW COUPLES MEET. What are you on about 68% being more than 12-40%? And the 12% and 40% do not refer to the same thing so stating that as a range of 12-40% makes no sense. It’s saying 12% of all LTRs started online. If you isolate demographics who actually use the app, it is more like 20% https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2020/02/06/the-virtues-and-downsides-of-online-dating/ The numbers aren’t measuring the same thing. I personally can…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:01 PM
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You’re projecting some things here. The 68% number is in no way comparable to the 40% because they aren’t measuring the same thing. The 68% doesn’t refer to success rate for LTRs. Most dates in general are not going to have a 100% success rate. I’m sure it’s much higher than 12% but I’d guess much fewer first dates happen through friend circles nowadays than online dating but most likely with a higher success rate. If I had to guess probably like a third of dates through friend groups become rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:23 PM
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Match group has overshot their business model and the apps have become ridiculous. Men basically swipe right on half of women and women swipe right on 2-5% of men on tinder. If a man matches with a woman it’s because she breathes and he lowered his standards so that he wouldn’t be getting zero matches. Women who stay on the apps for more than a few months have swiped left on most of their stack. So basically even when presented with thousands of choices some women still can’t find a man on the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:17 PM
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How all couples met≠how new couples meet. 40% of today’s singles get dates from OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:11 PM
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Most women have egos too big to send out clear signals of interest. Avoiding rejection is more important to them than outing themselves as having a crush
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:09 PM
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redpill is such a scam that they’ve even brainwashed little men into completely projecting onto to women what they think women are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:43 PM
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Not to me and that doesn’t make me gay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:41 AM
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I was regularly bullied as a kid and called gay for not reciprocating women’s advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:03 AM
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Bimbofication is starting to become gross. The butt implants look unnatural and makes their hips look like parentheses. Anya Taylor Joy botched herself with buccal fat removal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:01 AM
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It’s just hugs with them currently. Obviously the boundaries shift as relationship statuses change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:03 PM
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Not all men are possessive. I think all of my female friends have bfs rn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:00 PM
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Exactly. And if you’re not great at getting women you don’t need to stay with them either. Just fuck them because they are not going to be worth a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:26 PM
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Disagree. I don’t think men should feel compelled to be in a relationship out of desperation. They can fuck women if they get the opportunity. Men just infantilize women and men also do not value their commitment enough so they give it to undeserving women too readily. If her past is a red flag, then you’re “judging” her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:20 PM
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Sadly women are wonderful syndrome has convinced society that every woman deserves to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:17 PM
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This is also due to OLD creating a hyperreality that convinces women they are more sought after then they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:16 PM
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Redpill thinks they have the monopoly on criticizing women’s dating habits but they don’t. But then when people criticize women’s dating habits, they’ll assume it’s redpill. Imo it’s redpill itself that was men shooting themselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:14 PM
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Children who don’t socialize enough or only socialize in coed party settings think exchanging compliments is asking for sex. I get WAAAAYYYY more compliments from women but it’s casual conversation. Women naturally give little compliments as a part of small talk. When a man gives a compliment, it is usually very premeditated. That said when I do receive a compliment from a man, it is very sincere and usually is a conversation starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:12 PM
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Are bisexual men super creepy toward you? I’ve started experiencing this. Gay men know you’re straight just by looking. I dunno why bi men have such shit gaydar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:10 PM
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Yeah no Granted I’ll admit I have two female friends where getting one fuck out of our system helped cut the tension to make the friendship easier. But I haven’t fucked all my female friends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:08 PM
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I’m sure you know a few women like that. But it’s still not most women. It’s about 22% of them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:03 PM
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I’m convinced that jaded redpill dudes who think chads are fucking their crushes is a similar mental delusion to women who think men are pigs for not having a relationship after sex. They’re just trying to rationalize their suffering and creating a self fulfilling prophecy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:02 PM
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It’s easier to become friends with women imo and platonic hugs and cuddles can more than help touch starved men but sadly touch starved men are usually the men that women are afraid of cuddling with platonically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:58 PM
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Yeah. But the single people waste your time just as much on the apps as well. Dating apps are dating apps. People can look for LTRs on tinder and people can look for hookups on hinge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:50 AM
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I guess I don’t feel particularly remorseful because I didn’t lead anyone on. The brief conversations I had are what I experience normally as a single person trying to meet someone. I feel like 3-4 reply “conversations” are pretty normalized on these apps. I’m sure the girls I had 5 lines of conversation with were talking to other guys as well. A part of me feels sorry for my ex, but it never really caused issues in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:39 AM
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I don’t think she was scared of anything. I will say she was not particularly jealous and nor am I. We both enjoyed having other people flirt with us. She liked it when other women checked me out and I kinda liked it when she’d lead guys on. I guess it was the attention. And you could get a lot of it if you wanted on tinder pre Covid. It’s bizzare how different the app is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:12 AM
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Ashamed to admit, but I had a tinder profile for a lot of my 6 year LTR and my ex knew the whole time. I never met anyone on the app. Honestly I have no idea why she seemed to not care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:44 AM
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Change the frame of reference. If the conversation is only happening because you’re asking questions then you should probably act a little impatient and maybe stare off elsewhere when she doesn’t seem to be carrying the convo If it’s not a reciprocal interaction, you need to make it very clear that you’re the one pulling the weight
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:48 PM
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Yes. They know that it is less likely for them to find a man who can significantly improve their material QOL after divorce so they try to make the most of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:49 PM
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While I disagree that women have more leverage when it comes to divorce, this might explain why women are often more trigger happy when initiating divorce and may be more aggressive about the financial outcome of divorces. It’s because they know it’s unlikely they will find another partner who is of higher quality so they try to make the most of their situation. This probably explains why you’re more likely to divorce after already having divorced because the quality of your options will drop si…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:43 PM
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The top 20% of men don’t find 80% of women attractive. Mentioned earlier, top men are regularly fucking women they aren’t all that attracted to. Top men tolerate an odd good for a night Then you get overweight misandrists 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:38 PM
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So immediately make your interest clear from basically the first or second sentence. If they don’t reciprocate, move on. Learn how to do that discretely, but clear as well (side smile+sustained eye contact etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:32 PM
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It is also better irl because women don’t have the option of making a gap in the conversation. It is easier to take control of the conversation irl if you are quick witted and don’t hesitate to reply. Many women can seem like hot shit by taking time to respond to flirty texts but irl, they can’t just say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:10 PM
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Flirt and tease. Flirt and tease. Do 95% of the escalation and just stop short of following through. They will close the last 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:59 PM
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Well I guess we know at least one lady in your life isn’t cutting it https://reddit.com/r/adultery/s/KFeNXtJOXW 😂😂😂😂 You must be a betabux looking to make up for not fucking enough in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:44 PM
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Did you happen to match with this guy? https://reddit.com/r/adultery/s/KFeNXtJOXW 💀💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:35 PM
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Yeah these women probably would have better chances on the app if they divorced at a younger age or become cougars
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:26 PM
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I guess were both alpha fucks then lol I guess I just have higher standards than you hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:24 PM
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So ladies do indeed have to race against the clock? You’re attracting betabux who want to make up for their sexless youth. Red pill has trouble admitting that it’s the betas who cheat in marriage not the wives craving cHaD dick
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:19 PM
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Wait lol did you come up with the 5x number because of the 80/20 rule 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:11 PM
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And yeah that’s my experience most of my LTRs have been with IRL women. While I was looking for an LTR on the apps and eventually found one. The women on the apps aren’t really all that much good for more than a hookup One woman I hooked up with who was my looksmatch had serious mental health issues. And another who was my looksmatch was too young for me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:05 PM
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Men will only fuck a hole in the wall if they don’t have better options. And they will rarely fuck the hole in the wall twice. Tinder is full of holes in the wall lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:03 PM
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So you think men’s swipe rate is indicative of how men rate women lol? So men aren’t actually equally odd as women but actually 20x odd? Tinder is a bunch of men competing for a tiny pool of dateable women. Men cast a wide net as a OLD strategy. Ironically this probably gives women the wrong impression that they are more desirable than they actually are. This is why pumping and dumping is so common on OLD even though statistically men want LTRs as much as women. Men are forcing themselves to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:45 PM
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Well I was out with a girl who has a bf and I saw her get tinder notifications. Then again I was out alone with a girl who has a bf so…..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:38 PM
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Rate of oddness≠total number of odd people. And if we assume the rate of oddness is equal, then by definition total number of non odd women would be significantly smaller than the total number of non odd men. (5x fewer non odd women)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:31 PM
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Ok sure, but I’m just saying it’s worse for men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:24 PM
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It’s a 5 to 1 ratio so I’m saying the share would still be greater if men were 4x worse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:16 PM
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I’ve dated women on OLD who only wanted hookups but they are often incredibly ambiguous about it because they probably feel embarrassed asking for casual sex Once a girl drove a few hours to me and I had a dinner on the water planned. We start making out and she opens her glove compartment which had lube in it and asked if I wanted to fuck in the lot behind the restaurant. I didn’t, but next time we met we had sex and I’m super glad I was wrapped like an Xmas present.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:12 PM
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Maybe a weird question but are you on the spectrum? The focus on tone and facial expression was just a little out of left field
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:20 AM
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You do realize you can communicate on the app before the date? So you’re saying the literal act of asking for the date itself filters IRL women but not OLD women? Literally my “tone” and “facial expression” is the only difference? And that OLD women accept the request in text form but would have rejected me had I asked them IRL? This seems like quite a reach lol Personally I can’t think of a specific example of being refused a date irl. I’m sure it has happened but nothing is sticking out in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:52 AM
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Incompatibility isn’t the same as standoffishness/being unpleasant. If I don’t hit it off with someone irl, they aren’t going to act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:30 AM
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I guess I dumped her. We agreed that we just had an initial attraction that faded and that there really wasn’t romance there and we are better off as friends. We are still good friends. I didn’t say it ended though! What made you assume that? Edit: “last” LTR I guess implies “past” LTR hahaha me dumb Edit 2: lol why the downvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:44 AM
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It’s not how women work. It seems to be how chronic OLD users work (or at least that’s my hypothesis). I’ve done IRL blind dates, asking out someone at a bar, ye old friends becoming lovers etc. This pattern is particular to my OLD experience although not universal, but I’ve never had a date like that with someone I met irl
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:42 AM
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I don’t use them anymore. Although my last LTR was with a girl I met on tinder. Lo and behold she didn’t act this way and I was like “great I actually have a reason to text her back.” Interestingly she had only been using the app for about two weeks. And tbh I think most of the dates that I had from tinder that weren’t like OP tended to be with women who weren’t on the apps for long before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:29 AM
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But don’t you want to be pleasant on a date if you are hoping that something will become long term? How does being stand-offish help you find an LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:23 AM
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Ok but I’ve never actually had a date like this with a girl I met IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:14 AM
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I’ll give an example: I was talking about how I used to work for a direct marketing firm which is basically a scam. They are what we call “devil corps.” They are a type of pyramid scheme. She proceeds to basically give me a lecture on MLMs as if I don’t know what those are. I explain to her that it’s similar to an MLM, but not the same and that they are typically referred to as devil corps. Basically from that point on she was standoffish and didn’t want to carry the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:11 AM
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It’s not a response to what I do, it’s a combination of passive aggressiveness what seems to be an ego trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:04 AM
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I’m not talking about being a people pleaser. I’m describing an experience that would be unpleasant for 99% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:59 AM
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Not disagreeing that it’s spilling over irl, but irl women have to deal with a 50/50 gender ratio and having to carry a conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:06 AM
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6’3
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:36 PM
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Yet beta bux losers are the ones cheating more often… not getting cheated on (which is one of the insecurities that drives the red pill movement)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:05 PM
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Look up post ww2 marriage rate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:01 PM
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Practically speaking, there might not be much a difference. Women don’t have a consensus on who the top men are. But individual women can have “types” and then end up ignoring 99% of the rest of the male population. It’s bizzare. Some women will only date skater dudes with tattoos as if having that criteria in any way will lead to a good relationship. And they usually don’t. I think it’s because social media has warped women’s perception of their options. They think that they have the agency to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:58 PM
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It is also by far my most complimented feature except maybe height but often comments on height are not compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:55 PM
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OkCupid data≠real world Women are too insecure to admit that they have a shit time with dating apps too. As a coping mechanism women increase their standards because for them nothing is better than something they don’t want. And picking men above their looksmatch appeases their insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:52 PM
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80% of women aren’t fucking chads lol Literally only 20-25% of women will even consider sex without potential for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:30 PM
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I’ve just dealt with unhealthy attachment after sex before. Of course these women can bond with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:20 PM
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If you aggregate all of women’s “specific” preferences, this will come out as being harsh. But I’d say it’s more picky than harsh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:19 PM
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There should be another term for it. Because it’s something I do in private too. It’s just creating a personalized language for physical touch. I don’t like my gf’s being kissy in public. Yes you’re right about those bonds. But I’ll be honest that it has made me apprehensive to give women this treatment for first time sex. It shouldn’t be the only basis for attachment. And it makes me the asshole if we aren’t compatible But yeah just be conscientious of your lover’s “size.” She wanted it all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:50 PM
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It’s because redpill losers are obsessed with thinking most women are whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:36 PM
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Making them cum once should be enough for these guys to know they have worth
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:05 PM
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Imo it’s just that below average men, even in relationships, lack the confidence to fully express their sensuality. Even if they’ve already fucked the woman, they still are apprehensive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:41 PM
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Men project how they are attracted to women onto how women are attracted to men. Men’s preferences are much more convergent than women. Different women find different men attractive. Like I have pretty nice long and wavy hair that I take a lot of care of. But there are women who will simply refuse to date me because of my hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:31 PM
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I dated a HL (high libido) woman for 6 years. She never cheated. I suggested an open relationship for her to fuck other guys at one point but she refused. I’m a 3-4 times a week kind of guy, but maybe slightly below on average, so I’m not the horniest guy. I did not enjoy having someone throw tantrums if I refused sex. I’d much rather be on other side and jerk off if my partner doesn’t want to get me off. But here are my tips: Foreplay isn’t something you just do in the bedroom, literally the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:57 PM
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Lol this guy definitely doesn’t fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:53 PM
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Andrew tate and Dan ballsack are not fucking these women for free. The exchange is going the other way my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:33 AM
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I mean maybe some women will fuck a guy for followers, but we’re talking about weird people doing weird stuff. This behavior is for the most part an anomaly on the dating market. But I don’t really think Andrew tate nor Dan ballzerian made thots famous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:00 AM
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I’d argue dating apps are more like 50/5 rule. I don’t even think most women on dating apps are using them seriously. Maybe a small majority of women who use them actually how they are intended but I doubt that’s all the time. And 20% seems pretty high. I don’t think 1 in 5 guys are killing it on dating apps. It’s probably 5-2% But IRL on a long enough timeline it’s basically almost 100/100 (or 50/50. Whatever the number for people who die coupled is). Maybe that will change though Also most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:54 AM
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Do you have advice for men like this? I’ve always given lots of PDA and words of affirmation. When my exes gained weight, I never changed my opinion about them (I like tummies too). Some wanted me to gain sympathy weight with them. Like how do I not make them feel insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:45 AM
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It’s just red pill cope…. And hope that they’ll be the 20% someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:06 AM
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I’m just saying what they are saying. Not my personal opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:07 AM
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If they complain about it then yes It is my impression that a lot of men accept that no one cares about them then they choose to do the “fair” thing to them and pull back from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:54 PM
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Insecure women select hot men in the first place as a form of validation. “I’m dating a hot guy therefore I’m hot too.” It always ends in misery
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:37 PM
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Literally makes no difference if he makes the first move or not. If you can’t have sex outside of a relationship then say that before you have sex for the first time. Women are wild in that they’ll blame everyone but themselves for this. If you get ghosted after sex and you never talked about commitment, you’re just entitled and selfish for thinking you were taken advantage of. You are not owed a relationship just like incels are not owed sex. I’ve only ghosted one woman after sex and that’s bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:34 PM
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Men who think “I’m going to build myself up and avoid women until I have as much leverage against them as possible” probably have some very problematic deep seated notions about gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:49 PM
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I’m curious could you name a female influencer who didn’t have clout then fucked either of these dudes and was better off after? I think pretty much any association with those guys is black balling yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:47 PM
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Yep. AFBB has no statistical basis. The beta bux are the ones who cheat. I actually have a theory that betabux losers get married while they feel like they didn’t have exciting sex life in their teens and 20s so they start families before they feel like they’ve lived the bachelor life. The notion that their wife is the last woman they’ll fuck terrifies them and emasculates them so beta bux cheat in attempt to make up for their sexless youth And only so many women like casual sex so very often al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:09 AM
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Sure but only 20-25% of women will have sex outside of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:56 PM
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This is because the fear of being cheated on is one of the primary motivators of redpill hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:19 PM
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Women don’t feel compelled by hormones the way men do to center themselves around the other gender, but post nut clarity exists. Women consume material regarding relationships and romance at a far higher rate than men. I think because here on PPD we fixate on the fact that virgin men feel worthless for being virgins but apart from that I don’t really think (cishet) women are as decentered from men as men are decentered from women and this is how it has been for thousands of years. Men have alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:09 AM
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Why do you think I’m redpill lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:13 PM
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Dude just throw out the just world fallacy bs. Men get called misogynistic all the time for totally acceptable behavior. Get the f over it. Not everyone man and woman who says “misogynist” is educated in gender studies. They are often complete imbeciles
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:09 PM
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Wat Usually it only hurts the feelings of the person you’re trying to apply the standards to. Otherwise you’re just talking about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:04 PM
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I’m a Virgo so it’s all I do but I keep it to myself most of the time and I realize my standards might not matter to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:54 PM
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Get ready to get gaslit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:53 PM
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I think men and women are equally mocked but I do think men often can do the same thing as a woman and he’s controlling but when a woman does it then she’s just advocating for herself. It’s more that when women are criticized, there is group of white knights there to tell you that your valid criticisms are just misogynistic. PPD is one of the few places where it’s the other way round
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:51 PM
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If you’re 30 and still a virgin. Get a hooker. Women will just think “I’m not going to be the last woman he wants to fuck bc I’ll be the first.” So just get it out of the way so women don’t make stupid judgements like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:48 PM
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Waiting for the mental gymnastics that this justifies ghosting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:46 PM
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It’s just weirdly judgy behavior and reminds me of girls I knew in middle school who thought boys who liked lord of the rings were weird or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:37 PM
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Yes men are misogynistic for thinking that women only have value because of sex. And women are misandrist for thinking that most men think this way. You can continue to think that way about men if you want but then you’ll never have a fulfilling LTR. Your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:24 PM
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I’d argue men try much harder to appeal to women than men do to appeal to men. This is one reason why I am much more protective about my commitment because some women simply do not know how to have an equal and mutually reciprocating relationship nowadays. Nothing has replaced the misogynistic lessons on how women should appeal to men so the result is that many women are just selfish now. If all the relationship is about appealing to what the woman wants and not what the man wants then few men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:15 PM
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Commenter did not mention reciprocation. She could care less if an average man reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:08 PM
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Environment can’t be controlled. And who your friends are aren’t totally in your control. I guess it’s whether you see yourself being potentially friends with the other gender as a benchmark rather than if you actually have them or not. And yeah people who aren’t friends with their own gender do often have internalized bigotries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:01 PM
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This too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:55 AM
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Not much to reply to this other than that you probably just haven’t seen much anime then. Granted I’d find it weird if my partner thought it was childish that I liked animated Pixar movies like Toy Story or something. Sure it’s a kids movie but good kids movies are a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:53 AM
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Ayyy I got my hair still
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:50 AM
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I’m just making the point that people who are liabilities are only liabilities to the extent that you entertain a serious relationship with them, which is why it makes sense that you wouldn’t want to date someone broke if you want a serious relationship. Don’t want to clean up after a messy guy? Then don’t live together. Most of the time, the burden people take on is their own choice. Men make the mistake more than women imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:03 PM
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Most men vastly overestimate the looks threshold and vastly underestimate the personality threshold. At best the most attractive men can get easy sex with only 20-25% of the female population as that’s how many women want quick sex (which by the way there is more or less no consensus on what is hot for women. Men’s perception of hotness in women is WAYYYYY more convergent and frustrated single men project male physical attraction onto women). Apart from thirsty girls, attractive men do not have …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:10 PM
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Lol people’s projection can end here. At least you’re being honest. Granted I’ll say that if you think that you can’t attract the guy you want because you’re not hot enough then that’s still sexist imo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:49 PM
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I don’t need to project when we have the stats showing that women become more estranged as they get older and the opposite is true for men FYI most people here see that when you run out of things to say and then just start trying to emasculate people as an argument, everyone sort of thinks that you don’t really have an argument anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:47 PM
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Because if she has a clue about what kinds of things the “above average” man wants out of a relationship then she wouldn’t be single. It’s just not entering her thought process. For her, if the above average man doesn’t lay it all out for her then she’s not interested and possibly doesn’t even trust him. She may even think mutually reciprocal arrangements feel exploitative to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:44 PM
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A mutually reciprocal one? Can’t tell if you’re intentionally being disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:38 PM
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Lol no. If I said being around women is masochistic unless they put out then that’s misogynistic. Basically if you don’t have platonic friends of the opposite gender who are heterosexual around the same age as you then it’s very likely that you’re a sexist POS. I would bet money this woman thinks that she can’t land the guy she wants because she isn’t hot enough which is also incredibly misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:38 PM
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It’s easier said than done. There’s barely any literature for women on how to make their man happy outside of cosmo articles that clearly did not ask men shit. I’d say women who lack self awareness regarding mutual reciprocity is the number one reason why women get pumped and dumped. The second most common reason is probably men who grit their teeth before having sex with a girl thinking “it can’t be that bad” and then they have sex and it really is that bad then they don’t call them back. That’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:36 PM
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Great mutual disinterest so we are both happy 👍 Sorry if you meant her not wanting to sleep with me was a diss. Didn’t really land lol you people are a riot. Do you really get off that much trying to emasculate dudes you don’t know online?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:21 PM
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Bro would bet money my n count is higher than yours and I probably wouldn’t even consider hooking up with her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:18 PM
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She literally said being with men who don’t add value to her life is the equivalent of masochism. That’s basically saying she’s not interested in men unless she can extract value from them. She views men as commodities. Most likely she hit the wall and is simply avoiding dating as a coping mechanism to avoid confronting the fact that she’ll never land a dude who meets her standards. She’d rather put her head in the sand and not me reminded of her low SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:09 PM
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Yeah it’s not hypergamy it’s just plain misandry. She’s not interested in men unless she can extract value from them. She doesn’t see them having any inherent use. Of course if she was consistent, this would imply she wouldn’t associate with women for the same reasons. But she only applies mutual reciprocation to friendships and not romantic partnerships. She’d rather be a parasite in a romantic partnership. Like she doesn’t have to live with her partner if she doesn’t want so she really doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:56 PM
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It’s not that men don’t like that women don’t like the same things that they do, it’s because women think anime and video games are “childish” Plenty of women are obsessed with the portrayal of female bodies in anime and video games no different than there are men obsessed with the physiques of men who bodybuild. There’s this implication that things that cater to male gaze means that women won’t like it. And it’s probably the fact that the bodies are exaggerated and unrealistic which probably ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:46 PM
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You’re talking about women who only date men for how they look. And I’m saying these women are damaged and by no means represent the majority of women who clearly prefer having sex with someone have an emotional connection to rather than the guy who they think is the hottest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:59 PM
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If a woman can’t reach orgasm through emotional connection with their partner but rather needs a hot tall dude to make her cum then she’s fucking damaged goods bro. I know. I’m all tall hot dude and have hooked up with a few broken women from OLD. One literally had a clit that didn’t work she only wanted to be sport fucked. Completely damaged
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:33 PM
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This is true but there are diminishing returns. If you are twice as sensitive to DHT but produce half the hormone compared to someone with normal sensitivity then you’ll have more or less the same hair. At a certain point the total androgenic load will factor into it hence also why it is common in body building.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:10 PM
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True, they only protect American nukes. Technically Queen Elizabeth was commander in chief and some argue she’s a feminist icon. Theresa may not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:32 AM
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DHT is the hormone that generates sexual organ growth…. It is also what makes your hair fall out. Pretty obvious that the rate of baldness in the porn industry is higher than average Also the use of steroids in the industry so men look more macho doesn’t help either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:24 AM
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That’s what I’m saying. If you have the hormones to grow a big dick, you’re probably not keeping your hair for long
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:41 AM
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Yes I’m aware. I was banned from askfeminists in a thread asking what the world would be like if feminists had access to nuclear codes and I said Angela Merkel has access to the codes and identifies as feminist and was promptly banned. Not a dating sub tho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:40 AM
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That’s not a dating sub and there are women on there who aren’t feminist. I’m sure twox claims to be feminist but it’s not trying to be a “feminist” sub. It’s just trying to be a women’s only space to vent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:36 AM
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It’s power fantasy. Women are oppressed in the real world so they like to imagine erotica with them having control over men who probably would be patriarchal in the real world. An alternative version is that they find an estranged man who is still sexy but he is reformed to become a man who is better than the average patriarchal/toxic man. I guess it’s antisocial but porn is the same way. It’s about appealing to the fantasy of the consumer regardless of whether or not the object of their fantasy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:35 AM
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I think some women are starting to use Reddit like men but they are mostly younger zoomer girls. Most women from their mid 20s and up come to Reddit to jerk off their hate lady boner to redpill dudes and incels or talk about plants
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:23 AM
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Few men have the hormones to grow a giant dick while still having a full head of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:17 AM
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I’d bet if you ask most women whether it is easier for men or women to date on OLD, most will agree that it is harder for men although they will probably mention getting creepy messages. The women here have a bizzare just world fallacy that they apply only to men and not their own gender and are obsessed with the notion that men deserve to be single. Plenty of women irl are sympathetic toward decent dudes who struggle with dating. I honestly think a decent amount of women here either have relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:03 AM
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It’s usually that erotica often presents hypermasculine men who’s masculinity is inherently flawed unless repaired by a woman. I would go even as far to say that it attracts women who feel they have a superiority complex toward men while still feeling made vulnerable by the man’s power/influence/money. They get off the notion that powerful men become their pet projects in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:58 AM
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That men need a woman’s touch to grow out of being brutish and insensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:48 AM
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As someone with mostly female friends, the women here are by no means the average sample of women. The men here aren’t either but I would actually argue the men here on average are less vitriolic. The problem is that there are significantly more men so it’s easy to gang up on the women here. Granted I’m sure there are some dudes here harassing people in their dms etc. But most discussion from women here seems to have very little to do with addressing misogyny but rather “boohoo crying about this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:42 AM
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What “feminist” dating subs are there apart from maybe LGBT focused ones? FDS is openly transphobic. Straight women are presented basically either a prude, devoid, sex negative (toward cishet men) and often misandrist form feminism or they are presented with toxic, soul sucking, harpy, exploit men for personal gain, trashy dating advice. There’s no middle ground for cishet women to read about to have a healthy relationship with a man. Women are often only taught awful advice about how to avoid b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:31 AM
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I doubt this tracks. One of my exes had a mild porn addiction/had favorite porn stars. She just needed to get dicked down a little more than normal. I actually didn’t find it desensitized her that much and actually she took much longer to orgasm from masturbation still, but I think that’s because she was insecure about buying a dildo which she probably needed for masturbating. Perhaps porn did cause her to rely more on penetration for orgasms. Edit: I do think erotica can be a double edged sword…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:25 AM
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Fighting misogyny via emasculation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:13 AM
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Goalposts moved from low effort profile to incompatible values when I highly doubt you even have many conversations with your matches about values.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:43 PM
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Highly doubt you actually have conversations like this with your matches immediately and if you see it in their profile then you obviously wouldn’t swipe on them in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:36 PM
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People who think they can date a dating profile are idiots. If you reject someone before a first date (apart from obvious red flags and danger) then you’re lying to yourself that you know what’s good for yourself You’re not dating. You’re window shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:21 PM
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I’m arguing filters probably would make a difference if the app had an enforced 50/50 gender ratio and that men didn’t appear in the stacks of women who don’t fit the man’s preference to swipe on the first place (vice versa as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:03 PM
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It would only be harder to collect hundreds of matches, but it would probably be easier to find a relationship. I’d probably change a few things from my initial comment: I think everyone should be able to swipe as much as they want but there’s a hard cap on how many matches you can have before it asks you to delete existing matches to make room for new ones. Somewhere between 30-50 probably. I honestly had the same issue where eventually I had maybe a 150+ matches I didn’t have much interest in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:57 PM
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Like I said, the point is that men are swiping on women they aren’t attracted to just to get a match then these women get the wrong impression that these men are attracted to them because they matched then fat women start to think they can date skinny men The ideal app would have a 50/50 gender ratio with filters so that both genders only see in their stack people who don’t have physical deal breakers. The match rates would reflect irl pairing more accurately. All of my irl LTRs were with my loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:42 PM
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I will also go as far to say that there are many fat women who need to date a guy skinnier than them in the same way women often need to date a guy taller than them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:41 PM
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Also at what point is a cut off in bmi rational? You’re only arguing for women who may miss out on the margins. But if someone says they find 28 bmi and below attractive, but someone with a few decimal points more is still attractive to them, that doesn’t mean they still have no cut off for women they don’t find attractive. Sure he may be lying to himself that someone with .5 bmi more may be still attractive but that number will be close to zero if you say they have a bmi two points higher than …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:33 PM
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Then I can adjust my weight filter if I discover I actually have a preference for higher bmi women. But my preference is informed by women who I have dated. Yes. That’s exactly the point. The point of the app would be to have men swiping right considerably less because tinder overinflates right swiping from men. Men more often swipe on women they don’t find attractive just to get a match and then unattractive women get the wrong impression that their matches find them more attractive than they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:27 PM
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Yes even healthy weight women may have a body shape that a man may still find unattractive despite fitting his preference for bmi. That’s what swiping is for. That doesn’t mean there are women outside his stated preferences are attractive to him. Your argument is basically men don’t know what they’re attracted to and that men don’t deserve the privilege of having standards because you think it is self sabotaging to men. That’s incredibly wishful thinking and somewhat echoes incel logic about wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:21 PM
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Non issue because apps already include height so bmi would be easy to implement How fat sits on you doesn’t matter after a certain point because there are bmis I won’t consider dating no matter how your fat sits on you. A bmi over 28 will always be unattractive to me no matter how fat sits on your body. Believe or not, asses and tits can actually be too big
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:14 PM
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Not from what I’ve read! That’s good to know! I’ve never used OKC and I think I’ll consider it when I get back on the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:37 PM
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I think the body positivity movement has blown over especially post Lizzo. Some of the most toxic body shamers are in the body positivity community. And it is painfully obvious on Reddit that fat women are incredibly shallow and it often may be a neurotic dynamic of projecting their insecurities onto others by being physically shallow in their choice of men as a coping mechanism for their own body image issues. As long as I, a fat woman, get laid by healthy weight men, then I must be attractive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:23 PM
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Bumble already has a height filter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:41 PM
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The filter would be your choice. As many men can attest, it has changed a lot after the app was gamefied and rigged for profit. When I was in college in 2013, I could genuinely use the app to get a hookup for the weekend if I wanted. And I did when I was 18 and 19 as if women would even give a shit about a guy that age with no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:22 PM
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Yes and you only need “game” if you are unattractive to women in general so you have to resort to tactics that will make you attractive to insecure women. Otherwise I’ve fucked on many a first date by talking to women like people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:15 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/11/arlie-hochschild-housework-isnt-emotional-labor/576637/ “Emotional labor” is a term that has been appropriated by white pseudo feminists. It originally meant putting on a happy face while you are effectively the object of emotional abuse and that this is something that many in the service industry do regularly with flight attendants probably having it the worst. It does not mean marrying an emotionally stunted man who can only express himself in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:54 PM
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Shared assets tend to far exceed the net worth of lost market wages for housework. Market wage for housekeeping is about 13-16 dollars an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:51 PM
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I had a thread about weight filters recently. A decent dating app would have an enforced 50/50 gender ratio. So men would probably have to be on a waiting list. It would also have a weight filter so obese women don’t show up on your stack if you don’t want them to; reducing their perception that men are fighting over them (tinder is sort of a “how fat will you go before you can’t tolerate little to no matches” game). No one would like it, but like tinder there’d be a hard limit on how many swipe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:46 PM
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Lol I have mostly female friends and I don’t think women are any less jealous about it than men. Women totally will assume you’re just a fuckboi if you have lots of female friends…. So men can be judged for sleeping around even if they aren’t. I also don’t understand how these “double standards” are artificial either. If women don’t mind men who’ve slept around then men who’ve slept around can date around. If men don’t like women who’ve slept around then they can’t date around as much. These are…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:16 PM
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Ok so average salary is not nearly as telling as these numbers: There are 2.1 million OF creators There are 5.4 million Uber drivers OF’s revenue in 2022: 2.5 billion (up from a billion from last year so stupid volatile) Ubers revenue from 2022: 31 billion https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/UBER/uber-technologies/revenue#:~:text=Uber%20Technologies%20revenue%20for%20the%20twelve%20months%20ending%20June%2030,a%2056.7%25%20increase%20from%202020. https://www.usesignhouse.com/blog/onlyfans-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:05 AM
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https://influencermarketinghub.com/glossary/onlyfans/#:~:text=XSRUS%20has%20crunched%20the%20numbers,accounts%20earn%20about%20%24180%2Fmonth. https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-UBER-Taxi-Driver-Salary-by-State Uber drivers on average make more than 10x OF creators. No there are not countless examples. There are examples cherry picked on click bait websites. That’s not data. And most of those women do not make that money for more than 6 months at a time. Most go viral for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:53 AM
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These posters do not have relationship experience simply put or they are using one bad event as a way to generalize, which typically women do but now I see men doing it almost as often. I’ve dated women who literally do not see other men sexually once we started dating and even if I stopped having sex, they wouldn’t have cheated. There’s also this notion that women in relationships eventually stop wanting to have sex. Some women are like this. But also some men are like that. I’m kinda like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:47 AM
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Yeah I get yelled at by people I don’t dignify an argument with all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:22 AM
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The idea that pretty women can just avoid working by posting nudes online is a myth that bitter red pilled dudes perpetuate because they think pretty women live life on easy mode. And sadly lots of young women bought the BS redpill idea that rich men are just going to throw money at you if you start an onlyfans. NGL it’s pretty satisfying to see some girls who just graduated high school who think they can use OF as a cheat code for life get a dose of reality. It’s great when they are making penn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:58 AM
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Yeah I don’t date women who don’t want to fuck me. People who are horny aren’t “enthusiastic” about fucking you. They can’t control themselves, they smell differently when they are horny, and they will initiate themselves. Women who think they can fake it are just fucking around with dumb men who probably can’t make women cum when they want to and if they do make a woman cum, it’s either a fluke or the woman got herself off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:51 AM
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Personally I was only told this after I stopped having as much sex with my ex as I normally did. She was a bit entitled to sex and her neediness was a turn off and it gave me anxiety. I asked her how often she came when we had sex and she was like “I dunno like 70% of the time so I fake like a quarter” And I’m like girl if you count the times you got multiple orgasms then you’ve cum more than me. It’s often a ploy that horny women will play. They’ll insult your masculinity as a way to motivate y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:46 AM
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If you didn’t care about her then you wouldn’t be having an argument with her
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:41 AM
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Yeah and guess what I have had a great convo about the kon Mari method and why folding in thirds is superior. One time (or rather dozens of times) I asked a girl what she did that day and she was like “good” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:55 PM
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I understand this. I think this is just because people misunderstand the overweight label and should just base their preference off the BMI number then the body shape. I dated a girl with a similar BMI as your heaviest (I think 27) and she also has very wide hips and a fairly flat stomach actually. So I’d probably set my filter personally at about 28 because much past that it does seem kinda hard to have your body fat sit on you in a flattering way unless you had some fairly extreme hip to waist…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:41 AM
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There is an education filter I believe. Apart from that, I guess people just list their occupation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:38 AM
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