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4	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality?		throwaway0385633_	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 06:38 PM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like?	Ask Red Pill	throwaway0385633_	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/13 08:44 PM

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2	Child Rearing We are arguing different things. I am arguing child rearing. You are arguing the validity of the feminist movement. The feminist movement, however, is a new thing--child rearing has been around for MILLENNIA. Therefore, the feminist movement should have no bearing on proper child rearing. Yes, in direct response to your arguments, feminists are assholes and there are a lot of problems with the feminist movement. We are in agreement there. Going back to child rearing. Historically, for thousands …	/r/TheRedPill	10/06/13 01:26 AM
3	Child Rearing But I'm not talking about feminist theory and its effect on the western thought (which is admittedly huge). I'm talking about the most basic biological imperative there is--raising your offspring and giving YOUR GENETICS a FIGHTING CHANCE AT SUCCESS. Assuming that your daughter IS YOURS, paternity tested and everything... what reason in the world is there to treat your daughter like a second-class citizen over your son?? You're NOT benefiting your daughter (so indirectly you are not benefiting y…	/r/TheRedPill	10/06/13 01:06 AM
3	Child Rearing I read through your quotes. I see that these women were douches. But that has NO APPLICATION to how people should treat their flesh and blood--no, their CHILDREN. Your children are your direct descendants that carry on your genetic torch. TRP has a lot of basis in evolutionary biology and the selfish gene, right? That's why I'm feeling such a break in the internal logic here. If you're TRP and are personally against having any children, that's fine. That works. That has an internal logic. You ca…	/r/TheRedPill	10/06/13 12:47 AM
6	Child Rearing Wait, are you implying that men should "figure out" that they shouldn't love their daughters?? It's one thing if it's someone you're not related to, but this is your DAUGHTER. Your daughter is HALF YOU, just like your son is HALF YOU.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 11:10 PM
5	Child Rearing Not a troll, just a noob baffled by this dude who clearly hates sluts yet doesn't mind if his daughter is a slut. I guess all movements have their crazies.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 10:28 PM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Replace with non-gendered version at best. What law changes would there be "at worst," then? Disclaimer: I believe that replacing gender-specific legislature with non-gendered legislature is the only reasonable course of action (and SHOULD be done as soon as possible).	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 07:42 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? But alpha men also work hard; isn't the foundation of TRP: NOT giving yourself excuses and doing your damnedest to be the best? Many CEOs are also not identifiably alpha; Bill Gates, for example, has had a monogamous marriage with Melinda, and Melinda is a co-founder and co-chair of the foundation. She has an equal share in autonomy, choosing many of the projects by herself. But that is only one example. Do you believe the majority of CEOs or politicians (movers and shakers of the world) are alp…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 07:35 AM
2	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? antifragile contains universal concepts. I'm really having difficulty applying the benefits of harnessing randomness to this situation, though. Would you mind explaining this further? As to the international perspectives, I see that Roosh has definitely proven that being an international male in certain countries yields more opportunities with women, haha. But is it as good for the indigenous men as well? For example, I know that a white American man would be treated like a king in India, but an…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 05:49 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Gotcha. But if you could choose which gender to be attracted to (even though attraction has a biological basis and is not a choice)--wouldn't it be more reasonable to be attracted to fellow men? As Tomassi says, They are rational actors and are capable of loving unconditionally, and do not need need all the maintenance that Roissy's 16 Commandments suggest.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 05:31 AM
2	Child Rearing Kudos to your parents for raising you so well; they sound like incredible people of great integrity and character. (I'm right in reading that your paternal grandfather was the abusive drunk, not your father, correct?) Lines like this: but something she never told me? dont hit a woman really stick with me in a good way. I'm glad your mother stood for gender equity. As an observation, your parents upbringing of you sound nothing like the other posts on this thread. Would you say that your upbringi…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 05:20 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Oh, no offense taken at all. Just wondering how much of great achievements are due to sex rather than personal drive for success and change.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 04:57 AM
2	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? The bottom 10 countries are also some of the most challenging for men to live in; male mortality rates are high, and the pressure on men to succeed and raise a family or be deemed worthless is monumental. (Speaking as an individual from an Indian background with a very large number of immigrant male Indian peers... the men think they have a much better deal in the US than they do there. India is 105/135 on that list, btw.) I have not read Antifragile by Taleb, but it looks interesting and it's n…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 04:28 AM
3	Child Rearing Out of curiosity, how would you raise any daughters? Or would you artificially select against daughters via artificial insemination or abortion in favor of sons? edit: Rather, would you care about your daughters as much as you do your sons?	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 04:00 AM
3	Child Rearing But you don't need to be married to have children. You could get a surrogate mother and a donated egg and raise the child by yourself? edit: That's assuming you only want biological children. You could also adopt if you really want a child. Also if you don't want to raise it yourself you could hire a (male) nanny.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 03:57 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? All I know is it isn't the football player turned marine turned Hotel CEO who is going to make solar power cost-efficient. It's funny that you mention that. I've spent time in the research/development department of a major player in the sustainable biofuel world. Many of my peers, myself included, entered into the field due to "big ideals." We KNOW that we will never become rich doing this research. We KNOW that members of the sex we are attracted to (men or women!) will never find our work "sex…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:54 AM
2	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Redpillers are currently a minority today. Do you think that more people who encounter red pill philosophy choose to swallow the pill rather than reject it? Do you think that more people swallow the red pill daily than "spit it back out" (to continue the analogy)?	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:41 AM
2	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Thank you for your input. Could you possibly give examples of highly male dominated cultures to look into? Also, if this: can tell you the women tend to prefer men from more feminized countries as the women are treated better and this: being a male in one of these places is far more pleasant however are both accurate, wouldn't that suggest that there is some middle ground between these two states (highly male dominated cultures where women do not like the men; female dominated cultures where men…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:39 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? But if there were more alphas, society would end up separating out alphas into classes of "more attractive" and "less attractive." You see this today: when one type of discrimination starts to end, another type begins (ex: racism >> colorism). All that would do is put all men on the same "levels" as when all men were betas. This is why game theory finds that there is an optimal percentage of "exploitative" strategy actors within a population, and once it increases above that threshold, the benef…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:35 AM
0	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? I would like to see all legal advantages bestowed on women removed What exactly does this entail? Removal of motherly advantage in divorce custody hearings? Removal of women's voting rights? Permanent suspension of women's driving licenses? Removal of sex-specific litigation concerning sexual assault?	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:32 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Understandable. As a sidenote, this: everyone's already in a rich country getting harems of pussy isn't realistically feasible, as the male:female ratio isn't 1:2 or 1:3. If everyone were equally attractive (say, everyone were alpha), and if polygamy were socially acceptable, society would create a gradient of "more attractive to women" to "least attractive to women," and the men at the top would get all the women and the men at the bottom would get none.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:27 AM
2	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? So are you saying that alphas don't propel society forward because there isn't such a need to impress women?	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:15 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? That's an interesting comment to make. Hypothetical situation, here. If civilization across the globe held both homosexuality and heterosexuality in equal regard, and if it were possible to choose your sexuality, which sexuality would you choose? Asexuality and bisexuality are not options, only sexual attraction to men or sexual attraction to women.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:15 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Never are they actually hideous enough that some weight adjustment, grooming, new clothes, and more confidence couldn't overcome. To be fair, that suggests that there is a temporary(?) state that a man can inhabit where he is actually too hideous, because that state needs to be overcome. And it takes some willpower to overcome it, and not all people are made of stern stuff, which would imply the state has self-imposed permanence.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:13 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? I chose IIPD as a good model because both players--the men and the women--interact infinitely. You do not have one interaction with the dating world and finish forever; you interact with dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of potential partners. True, each male-female pair may be unique; however, in terms of the Prisoner's Dilemma, each strategy pair is NOT unique. You essentially have only two strategies for the male player: beta and alpha. TRP assumes all women behave identically, so there …	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/13 02:10 AM
1	Do you want all of society to swallow the red pill? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to members of TRP to be a minority? What do you want the world to look like? Gotcha. So would you prefer that society remained the way it is today? If you favor polygamy in your personal life, would you still prefer that polygamy remain illegal?	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/13 09:06 PM
3	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Haha yes, my responses got a little messy in the middle there as I started just logorrhea-ing all over the page. Like I said, I've never really considered some of these things before, so my thoughts are a jumble, long on reaction and short on coherence. Anyway, about to head out for the night, so I just wanted to thank you (along with some others... mythin, ironfistofdeath, megatuxracer, jurupa, and the rest) for your thoughtful, fair replies. I'm not sure why this sub gets so much crap elsewher…	/r/MensRights	26/10/12 03:13 AM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? "Violence against males, blacks, and persons age 24 or younger occurred at higher or somewhat higher rates than the rates of violence against females, whites, and persons age 25 or older in 2009." I have to ask why the trends are like this. Were any factors controlled for at all? I need to read the methodology and analysis; government studies in particular just take numbers and crunch them without controls. For example, are blacks more likely to be involved in violent crimes because they are dis…	/r/MensRights	26/10/12 12:12 AM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Why? Do you think that men are more predisposed to violence? Do you even take into consideration that women are are much more likely to get away with violence? Hmm. So here's the thing. In the past, I HAVE leveraged my position as female to prevent male violence. (Some of my male friends were about to get into a fight with some other men; I stupidly just dove between them, and automatically they all stopped because "HOLY SHIT YOU CAN'T PUNCH A GIRL.") The thing is, I KNOW that men are going to b…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 11:53 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? You are assuming that simply saying no to a man is going to set him off into a frothing rage. 99.9% of the time this is not the case. The man may call you a bitch or whatever but that is just him being a dickhead and is not a threat to your health. To use an analogy: You can't live your life in fear of going outside because there is a small chance you might get hit by a meteorite... :P I was actually just thinking about this earlier, except using driving as an example versus getting hit by a met…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 11:39 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Let's take the idea of "Men can stop rape!" that is heard often. This is a stance that is generally on the side of "going too far." This view sees that a rapist has the trait "male" and then uses that as a trait for part of how it defines rapist. This is problematic because it leads to the idea that all men are potential rapists. I agree that there are issues in this rhetoric. As the phrase was used at MY college, I get the context; the phrase is used to combat "accidental date rape." The idea i…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 11:02 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? how does that logistically happen against someone's will? I hope you don't read this and think that I'm just responding emotionally to the original poster.... But I've been groped in a comparable way on a crowded subway during peak hours before. Thankfully I was wearing jeans, but still--it was its similarity to my story that prompted me to post on this sub. Btw, I'm totally over it (happened almost a decade ago), so feel free to discuss it however you like. Anyway, my situationally comparable g…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 10:05 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? This reminds me of something that happened to me in college. This tangent is probably really unrelated to anything you said. I'm sorry, I guess I'm just trying to put all my thoughts in words.... Anyway, my college's campus bordered a reasonably unsafe part of a city. Due to strange timing, I would often have to leave a lab around 3:30AM and walk home to my dorm, carrying a heavy bag and a laptop. Usually I had a buddy (safety in numbers!), but on two instances, I had to go it alone. So I'd star…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 09:16 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? I see what you mean. I understand the desire to express ideas like, "hey, heads up, this type of behavior kind of universally makes people uncomfortable." I'm sure that a man would feel just as uncomfortable with a stranger walking behind him as a woman would, for example. You could make the argument that for politeness' sake, one could abstain from these universally accepted "uncomfortable behaviors" if you were feeling particularly charitable that day. You in NO way have an OBLIGATION to do su…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 09:01 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? I've actually been thinking about that statistic. Could you possibly link me to its study? I guess I'm wondering what other factors are being controlled for, such as participation in unsafe behaviors. For example I see a lot more men walking by themselves at night than women; in fact, I'm often shocked that many of my guy friends wander around outside at 3AM by themselves (when I ask why they aren't taking someone else along for safety, they tell me they can protect themselves, or that no one wi…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 08:18 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? That makes sense. I bet another huge role in this thing is overall threat evaluation. It's not just MAN ALONE IN AN ELEVATOR WITH ME, it's his body language and things too. I DO feel like I'm less likely to be harassed (by women and men alike) when the person in question, say, pointedly ignores me, versus looks me up and down. But I think about it more, and sometimes that doesn't work either. I HAVE been groped by clean-cut looking guys before (including one fellow who squeezed my ass while he w…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 08:07 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? I'm not sure what this: a.) the victim in these situations had power, not to prevent the abuse, but stop the abuse and b.) that it is their fault in part that the refusal to stop the abuse being committed persists means in practice. Looking at part A: Let's use an example of mugging. If I were being mugged, I would most definitely go along with whatever the mugger said, since the mugger probably has some type of weapon or physical advantage over me, and COULD make this encounter very painful/lif…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 07:55 PM
2	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? It's sad this needs to be done. And it's even sadder because I bet some of them wouldn't really care what was originally written anyway.	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 07:47 PM
1	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? So I guess what you're trying to say is that the level of caution taken is what is important, along with case-by-case evaluation of specific factors? Like, say, being equally terrified of being alone with a clean-cut-looking guy in an elevator at 3pm versus being being alone with a clean-cut-looking guy in an elevator at 3am? That example brings us back to that skepchick thing that's been making the rounds, though. Rambling here (trying to figure out what I think), but if I were alone in an elev…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 07:45 PM
2	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Thank you for your response! Now, this is likely to open a whole new can of worms, but in ways, I do expect certain types of "violence" from women--namely, verbal aggression. In my experience, I get unsolicited petty remarks on my appearance from women, never from men. Now this is going to sound silly and egg-headed, but in an evolutionary biology course, we once touched upon increased physical aggression (not necessarily crime) seen in males, along with increased verbal aggression in females (s…	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 07:29 PM
3	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Gotcha. Thank you!	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 06:47 PM
2	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Also, why is that selfpost sub considered over-18?	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 06:44 PM
3	Trying to learn. How would you respond to this type of mentality? Again, I just want to reiterate--I really want to learn. I'm NOT here to yell things like "privilege" or whatever. If I wanted to do that, I'd go find a one-sided feminist blog or subreddit. I'm here to see what the male perspective is on the issue so I can figure out for myself what the equitable, fair stance on this issue would be. Thank you so much for your time!	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 06:40 PM

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