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12

Criticize them all you want, but it’s exhausting discussing a dating “market” and then having women start crying when we analogize them to some kind of product to make a point about a certain dynamic that happens in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:57 AM
1

Stereotypical, but sinking my time into conventionally “masculine” hobbies. Weightlifting, boxing, jiu jitsu, shooting guns, riding motorcycles, etc. I’m not getting women regardless of what I do, I may as well try to get good at stuff I’m naturally interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:45 AM
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It’s crazy women can’t seem to process simple analogies without pearl clutching
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:41 AM
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Even in your example he’s not an asshole. Just because he says he wants to get married someday doesn’t mean he’s obligated to marry HER. He was probably honest about that part but then realized eventually she isn’t the one. She’s not entitled to him marrying her, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:25 PM
1

The reason discussing “intentions” is stupid is because there’s absolutely 0 way to prove malicious intentions. People change their mind all the time, I just find it interesting when it comes to marriage women on this sub can’t fathom a guy just deciding he’s not interested at some point and feeling entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:23 PM
2

Who tf promises marriage. And if a girl promised me sex, and then changed her mind, is she in the wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:53 PM
0

Maybe it isn’t, but a guy isn’t obligated to marry any woman just because they’ve been dating a while. He could be just unsure and eventually decides not to marry her. Is what it is 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:52 PM
2

Nobody is entitled to marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:05 PM
10

Ok but the “feeling of being taken advantage of” doesn’t necessarily mean anyone took advantage of you. Often times it’s just entitlement for something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:01 PM
11

The criticism isn’t valid although you have the right to make that criticism. Just like how guys who take women out for 3 dates and complain when they don’t get laid, women say that criticism isn’t valid and reeks of entitlement (which I agree with).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:24 PM
4

The no hymen no diamond rule should be looked at unironically given the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:21 PM
17

You aren’t entitled to a relationship though. The man can change his mind anytime he wants, if he changes his mind after having sex about whether he wants a relationship, then it is what it is. The entitlement from women who complain about this is pretty gross
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:17 PM
18

Guys generally do. Most guys aren’t straight up lying explicitly saying they want a relationship and then smash and dash. Usually they’re just nice and the woman thinks it will lead to more on her own accord
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:16 PM
1

Self improvement on its face it’s fine, I’m critiquing this bizarre culture around the concept that seems like a bunch of dudes jerking each other off for ironically (not jerking off) and lifting a few weights lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:12 PM
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Probably all Chads/Chadlites that don’t care because they get laid anyway. Billy Beta has a butthole that you could eat off of, yet no women seem to want him. Curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:27 PM
14

“Just wash your ass bro!” 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:14 PM

If you think guys in the past weren’t going out trying to get laid and instead were just doing the “let’s just have a good time bro!” meme, I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:54 PM
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You’re moralizing it when the reality is women just enjoy sex with hot men, idk what that has to do with self worth. The unfortunate thing is 95% of men don’t meet the bar of what’s is considered “hot”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:06 AM
2

It’s literally only women claiming this reasoning. Every guy understands if you experience enough negative reinforcement in the real world, you may as well stay inside. It’s the effect of irl male sexlessness, not the cause
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:18 AM
4

Never forget the Chadfish experiment where a LITERAL PEDOPHILE got more matches and direct proposals for sex from attractive women. This meme of women being so worried about their safety they couldn’t possibly go on a date with the average guy is exactly that: a meme
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:16 AM
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Aka they smashed the men they were attracted to without any expectation and now are ready to find a beta buxx and give them their worst version of themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:39 AM
1

Guys should always care about body count. Men on this sub please don’t be shamed into thinking you shouldn’t by promiscuous women looking for their beta buxx
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:38 AM
0

You’re completely on the money actually. If women aren’t interested in you early, you are a future beta-buxx for a woman of rapidly decreasing quality on average in the west. After 25, if you’re a man and not in an LTR, keep things casual or break it off at a certain point. It’s not worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:36 AM
2

They literally don’t account for the main crux of my take. All it says is those who are online are more likely to stay online. It doesn’t go into WHY they are terminally online in the first place. Learn to read and comprehend
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:46 PM
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No but I do say it to the women that those men abandoned. Suck it up buttercup and figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:35 PM
3

These studies don’t take into consideration the constant negative reinforcement the average guy can experience in the real world so I don’t really care
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:34 PM
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Prove it’s the cause first. It doesn’t even make sense, you lot act as if guys PREFER jerking off to porn than having sex with an actual woman. It’s delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:21 PM
5

“Wahhhh not subsidizing women in my country that don’t give a crap about you and going where women will date you is predatory! Wahhhh!”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:19 PM
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If she dates you, then that means you are either better than her or better than most other men in some significant way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:18 PM
2

It begins sort of for the average guy because the women that have been ran through are now looking for a beta buxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:18 PM

In 2023, if you as a man entertain any form of legal commitment (marriage), you are a CUCK!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:16 PM
7

Porn and anti-socialism is a result of sexlessness and constant rejection from the opposite sex not a cause. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:15 PM
3

I agree. That’s what I tell pro choice women that live in states that banned abortion. Suck it up buttercup, not everyone gets what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:14 PM

You are wasting your time trying to explain this concept to people on this sub, they will deny and pettyfog the usually irrelevant details of your take to death and then ultimately convince themselves average guys are doing just fine when you decide you don’t want to go down the rabbit hole of elaborating on every angle of your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:11 PM
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Doesn’t matter had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:33 PM
1

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:31 PM
10

Coincidentally, everyone is hotter in their 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:07 AM
-1

I find the culture of self-improoooovment so unbelievably cringe. It’s become astrology for men and it’s target audience is a bunch of short ugly guys wondering why they don’t fit in and are rejected by women and society in general. It’s a culture of grift and scams by self-help gurus that appeal to men’s real problems with quick fix solutions (meditate, cold showers, gym) and BS courses that are ultimately useless because they don’t address the underlying problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:35 PM
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A random poster claiming he’s a 6’6 jacked rich guy and is needing validation from an Internet forum that eating box isn’t beta is the one of the most beta things I’ve ever seen lmfao 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:18 PM
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Yeah I don’t get it, if she was just cold and silent before no shit guys probably didn’t want to commit to her lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:05 AM
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Truly living on recruit difficulty. All you did was be nice lmfao (I guess giving head was going the extra mile if you don’t usually do that), but seriously it’s not rocket science to get a committed boyfriend. Be nice and act like you like him and you’ll probably get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:54 AM
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The Chadfish experiment showed literal PEDOPHILES can get laid easier with attractive women than the average looking guy. It’s hard to take what women say seriously about what they want from men once you see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 09:09 PM

Nope, mid attempt at a gaslight though, he wants to make sure the women genuinely likes him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:18 PM

They wouldn’t unless they had hot friends where sex could be on the table
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:17 PM

4-6 is high, she’ll bang a Chad in two dates if not the first in an attempt to lock him down
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:16 PM

Nobody’s a victim, he’s just saying he doesn’t want to go the extra mile if he doesn’t think a woman is into him lol. You’re the one throwing around words like “entitlement” and “incel” in response to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:10 PM

Yeah it’s unapologetically blunt and logical, it ruffled some feathers for sure too. Great post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:41 PM

Jesus you got triggered so bad from a guy just saying not to go the extra mile for a woman if he isn’t sure she’s into him 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:39 PM

It’s not prostitution to not want to go the extra mile for a woman that you don’t know is into you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:38 PM

This is what usually happens, it’s hilarious how women still don’t get it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:34 PM

Nope, he sees sex as proof that the woman likes him and that she’s worth spending money on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:30 PM

Sex is the best indicator she is into you the specific way most men want to be attractive to women, it is the best way to know bar none.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:28 PM

This is correct. Chances are the person you date isn’t your soulmate, so this strategy would usually be a net benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:27 PM

This is the most based post I’ve ever read in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:26 PM
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So any woman who gets into a FWB situation with a known fuckboi is now coercively controlling by asking for an exclusive relationship? This is dumb as hell, you’re basically saying you can’t ask your partner to change in any way. What about getting into a relationship with an unemployed person, and then asking them to get a job? Is that coercion as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:35 PM
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Individual tastes: Chad with glasses vs Chad with tattoos
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:50 AM
1

I agree and I don’t feel sorry for men who give divorce raped anymore. It’s so obvious getting the government involved in your love life is stupid as fuck, any guy who still gets married today is sort of a cuck. Conservative institutions like marriage are only as durable as the culture that supports it, which is now very socially progressive. Marriage is pointless, and before someone says “muh tax breaks!”, you may as well think of paying a little extra tax as reverse insurance for a guy to keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:09 AM
2

This was a hilariously blunt summary, saving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:05 AM
2

You often times don’t know they are crazy until it’s too late. So this advice is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:04 AM
2

Exactly. It’s definitional stupidity under the guise of being nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:46 PM
3

I can’t take the word “abusive” seriously anymore 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:39 PM
5

This is just definitional semantics, I’m surprised nobody sees that you can just reframe boundaries easily from the partner as the subject to the self as the subject. Okay fine, saying “my partner can’t do x, y, and z” is an invalid boundary, then we can just reframe it as “my boundary is me leaving this relationship if my partner does x, y, and z”. This whole revision of what the definition of a boundary is seem like therapists trying to look intelligent and somehow looking even dumber than pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:38 PM

Which is exactly what Jonah Hill did so I don’t know why women are harping on him. He set his boundary, his ex refused, he left and started a family with a new woman who presumably did agree to that boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:22 PM

He’s using the example of a woman changing her mind (or her boundaries) about having sex when going back to a guys place and comparing that to how changing boundaries in a relationship as it progresses is also valid. It’s a crude example, but I agree with the comparison. You can change your mind about what you want any time you want, the same way a woman who agrees to have sex and goes back to a guys place can change her mind as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:53 PM
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The delusion of the males on this sub (and in general) is thinking women anywhere have even a shred of care on any men “opting out” of dating. There are plenty of Chads to share and plenty of simps to betabuxx, there are no women crying about some frustrated guys being mad and being alone. You “opting out” for whatever reason doesn’t matter and will never matter to women nor to society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:06 PM
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It actually takes me a minute to realize this is satire just because so many delusional people on this sub would say something like this unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:59 PM
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Old people are the worst example, the culture of marriage was different in their time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:00 PM
1

This might be in the top 5 dumbest takes on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:10 PM
1

You’re being way to generous on the range. It’s crucial for 5.5-7, 4’s aren’t getting laid unless she’s super desperate lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:14 PM
1

The guy in description you gave could very well get ghosted after the date or get hit with the “I’d rather just be friends line” if he isn’t attractive enough. The point is it doesn’t matter whether you “do all the right things” if you don’t pass the looks bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:13 PM
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It’s more humiliating for the stepfather no matter what. The biological father is the one who the woman accepted to be impregnated by and continue his genetic legacy. The stepfather is inherently in a provider role to raise another man’s legacy. There is no getting around that no matter what even if the kids “like” the stepfather more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:02 AM
-1

I agree with your post and only other men will get it, women have no incentive to relate to the situation. It’s really gross and I would find it insanely humiliating. Usually it’s of the step dads own ignorance of sexual dynamics and of the concept of beta-buxx that causes him to make such a cucked decision. I find TRP corny, but at least it’s spread will educate men on avoiding single moms like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:00 AM

I agree with your post and only other men will get it, women have no incentive to relate to the situation. It’s really gross and I would find it insanely humiliating. Usually it’s of the step dads own ignorance of sexual dynamics and of the concept of beta-buxx that causes him to make such a cucked decision. I find TRP corny, but at least it’s spread will educate men on avoiding single moms like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:10 PM
1

If you want to be a husband (legally) in 2023 in the west, you might be a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:07 PM
2

A lot of these women aren’t chubby like the tweet is gaslighting you into believing, they are straight up obese landwhales. You always have to read in between the lines and translate what women say when they claim men don’t give “below average” or “chubby” women a chance, their definitions of those terms don’t typically line up with reality. The picture in the tweet is way more than just chubby, it’s not quite “obese” but she is significantly overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:03 PM
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Chad doesn’t care, if he’s not satisfied in his marriage, he has a harem of side chicks that he can enjoy on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:47 PM
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People are being obtuse at the point you’re trying to make and going on a tangent. Welcome to PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:28 PM

That’s true on a macro sense I agree, I’m just surprised on an individual level women are concerned about that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:13 PM

I don’t think it’s as simple as “just exist”, but I seriously doubt the bar for looks in men was as high as it was today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:45 PM

Yeah but they’re being bypassed by men they don’t want anyway lol, that’s why I don’t get the obsession
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:38 PM
2

Society tells men this so they continue running on the hamster wheel of economic productivity to pay taxes and don’t shoot a public place up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:02 AM
8

Chances are she’s not improving for you unless you’re way out of her league and she got lucky. She’s most likely improving for some other guy, or wants to expand her dating pool while have the emotional comfort and attention from you. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:08 PM
1

Bruh you don’t have to be Uber masculine 24/7, nobody’s saying that, but saying “try being gay” to a bunch of straight guys is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:09 PM
1

Just be a multi millionaire and the biggest YouTuber in the world bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:33 PM

Abortion is available where I live, so I don’t really care about the first part. Yeah men don’t have a risk of becoming pregnant, but we do have a risk of being the father without any choice in the matter. There is no “out” for us in this regard. And honestly I don’t take women who cry about the risk of getting pregnant that seriously, the dream of a lot of women is getting knocked up by a very rich person and if it was that incredibly scary why would you have sex at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:23 PM

Feel like it doesn’t work as well if you aren’t white. Could be wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:19 PM

If it makes you feel better this is pretty much becoming normalized for average dudes in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:17 PM
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I’m still trying to figure out why women give a crap about passport bros. The dumb ones will get scammed, the smart ones will probably have a more fun dating life than in the West. Western women aren’t running out of men/simps/attention/Chads to smash anytime soon, it’s a win win for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:15 PM
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The concept of beta-buxxing should be understood as a norm as well. Men should understand that if they’re suddenly getting attention in their late 20’s/30’s, it isn’t because she’s genuinely into you but she needs to settle with a provider. This way men can make informed decisions whether a serious relationship and marriage is worth it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:09 PM
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Instead of debating what exactly defines an average man and average woman, here’s a better way to explain what I’m saying. Take a random guy and take a random woman. Show the guy 10 randomly selected women in his area of the same age range, chances are he will find more than 5 of them attractive. Do the same with the woman and show her 10 randomly selected men in her area of the same age range, chances are she will find less than 5 of them attractive (tbh a good chance she’ll find none of them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:39 PM
2

The positive feedback loops you’ll experience as guy A for being very attractive will MORE than make up for a lackluster career
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:33 PM
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The average man is attracted to the average woman. The average woman is not attracted to the average man. It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:32 PM
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I know you put a lot of effort from the length of this response but ngl I stopped reading when you said “try being gay” can’t take anything you say seriously after that and frankly nor should any other guy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:27 AM

All these nitpicks go out the window if the guy is attractive enough. I don’t buy the idea women keep espousing here that the profile has to be perfectly crafted to yield a pitch perfect image of you that can’t be misinterpreted in any unsavory way. Chances are she just isn’t attracted to you and using some arbitrary attribute of the photo as a scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:15 PM
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If you are very attractive, feel free to approach. If you are not attractive, do not. To see if you are attractive, make a Tinder account with casual photos and a basic bio, and if you don’t get 10+ matches of somewhat attractive women in the next 15 minutes, you aren’t attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:40 PM
1

Pretty sure women in the 50s cheated on the low too lol, men have been getting cucked forever, women are just really good at hiding it. But yeah, at least there was the presentability of conservative virtue and femininity which has gone out the window today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:39 PM
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We don’t know any of this for a fact that there wasn’t anything else going on with guys in her surfing social group. That’s what’s so stupid about assuming “controlling” behavior from Jonah, we don’t know the context at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:46 PM
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The experts they speak of are psychology majors that graduated from Blue Mountain State and made a Tik Tok account
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:43 PM
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Porn is such a scapegoat it’s so funny to me. When you have testosterone making you horny all the time and can’t land a date to save your life no matter what you do, what the hell do you expect men to do lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:40 AM
1

Only a problem for non-Chad men. Women and Chads are perfectly happy with this situation. The non-Chad men get their chance when women reach 30 and need to lock down a beta buxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:38 AM
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Men don’t get to think of it like that. We need to mine for opportunities, if you struggle to get even one date, the game is already over. Women can basically just exist and go on dates and meet as many people as they want should they choose, men can’t, we HAVE to go where opportunities actually exist for us to have a better chance of finding a decent relationship. I think you’re viewing this from a very gynocentric lens. Just having the opportunity to date a bunch of women despite them maybe be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:01 PM
4

Exactly lmfao. All the intricacies of compatibility suddenly become top concern for women whenever men date overseas curiously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:54 PM
1

Strawman so blatant I’d think you were a scarecrow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:32 PM
1

That “narrow type of therapy” is the one most people recommend though for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:32 PM
3

I’m not sure, but I think on some fundamental level men understand that paying a stranger to listen to your problems is stupid and doesn’t change the issues affecting your life. For some reason women don’t see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:30 AM
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Therapy is a scam that is profitable since modern society is built in a way to make the average man feel worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:50 AM
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It’s not a random woman, it’s Jonah Hill’s ex who released texts from over a year ago to embarrass him when he’s moved on with another woman. It’s revenge porn under the guise of “abuse” and it’s gross and cringe. She should stop crying about the fact that she wasn’t wifed up and maybe do some introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:59 PM
1

All the fear and distrust women have towards men seems to go out the window if the guy is good looking enough 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:05 PM
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If your girl is acting up and you want to leave, dump without explanation. Listing out what you want will now be used against you in the dating meta.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:33 PM
1

He didn’t do anything wrong, and even he did nothing he did warranted leaking any of these texts. Take your meds lady
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:30 PM
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Imagine being this dense, the lady is a bitter ex plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:29 PM
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The revenge fantasy to me is mostly BS, but to deny there’s plenty of women in their 20’s out there that want to date “older established guys” is silly. I don’t get it either, but it’s a thing. Definitely not the norm, and most guys in their 20’s striking out now will continue to strike out in their 30’s. For those guys, I’d say don’t marry, get a passport, be open to escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:58 PM
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They severely underestimate the chasm of effort required for a woman to be willing to date you between that of a Chad and that of a non-Chad. They also severely underestimate the chasm of enthusiasm of the woman between those situations. This warps dating conversations because they think non-Chads have just as much chance if they “make it up” somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:42 PM
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I generally agree conceptually, but i would change some language. Men are either Chads or not, it’s mostly binary. Among the non-Chads, you can make it up to some degree by being extremely outgoing and social and running “game” (aka putting in 100x the effort Chad does for a fraction of the results), the Chads of course do whatever they want and get laid no matter what. Essentially for men, there is no such thing as “average”, you’re either unattractive or attractive, women who partner up with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:23 PM
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People on this sub can’t even accept the existence of “Chads” or hypergamy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:18 PM
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It’s extremely manipulative, if I was a betting man, I think there were photos on there that were way more sexual than just a surfer chick in a bathing suit, and her “surfer lifestyle” probably involved hooking up with a bunch of dudes that were in that social group that Jonah was aware of, and he was trying to establish some boundaries since it was making him uncomfortable that she was still being flirtatious with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:29 PM
20

She deleted a bunch of the photos that would make her look bad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:09 PM
1

They are starting to come out now, but everyone was focused on sleuthing through the texts initially without acknowledging the content is mostly irrelevant (unless he was doing something illegal or blatantly wrong).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:54 PM
3

There kind of is a time limit depending on the degree of the offense, and even based on these texts which are constructed to make him look the worst, they were relatively benign. This was just revenge porn from a salty ex, and it’s indicative of the times that most women on here think it was warranted to reveal stuff like this to the public. It was completely inappropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:51 PM
2

Why is she calling him out on being manipulative more than a year post breakup? Either way it doesn’t matter if he wasn’t the best partner, you shouldn’t be exposing old private business like that (unless something insane happened like he beat her or broke a law etc.). She shouldn’t be “calling him out” in the first place lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:09 AM
1

Attractive 30 year old women exist. The average 30 year old is not as physically attractive as the average 21 year old. Both statements can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:59 AM
1

We can sit here and judge all day, but at the end of the day we never should have seen this private conversation and there’s only one party to blame, especially more than a year after they had broken up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:12 AM
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The only asshole here is the woman revealing PRIVATE texts more than a year after they split and is having a kid with another woman. You can call him insecure or whatever, but to claim abuse is laughable. There was no reason to post this on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:11 AM
2

I guess, but I’m not sure what the alternative would be for Jonah. Dump/ghost her without any explanation? Have a feeling women would interpret that has emotionally manipulative as well lmao. The truth is women are shaming Jonah for sticking to what he wants and not folding on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:44 AM
2

Whether you want to admit it or not, celebrity BS like this affects culture, and how we perceive what is acceptable in relationships and what we want. It’s stupid as fuck, but it’s true. So their drama unfortunately affects how the masses view relationships and etiquette, that’s why people are invested
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:23 AM
5

Aziz paid a lot for that, he def lost career opportunities and had to hide for a bit until it blew over
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:59 PM
1

The problem is a lot of women are shitting on Jonah instead of pointing out this woman had no right releasing private texts from a year ago when they aren’t even together
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:58 PM
4

His ex edited the messages to make him look worse lmao, how can you lack this much self awareness. The only salty person here is the ex, Jonah moved on a while ago
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:56 PM
7

Boundaries can change especially when the nature of your relationship is changing lmao. This isn’t that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:50 PM
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Yeah they’re playing definitional games because they don’t want to admit there is no such thing as “bad boundaries” at least objectively. Even super conservative boundaries are valid, and you’re in your right to leave if your partner isn’t interested in respecting them. It’s an inconvenient fact women don’t seem to like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:20 PM
3

If you’re a physically attractive man (top 1-5%), sure that makes sense. It will have the opposite effect for every other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:08 PM
11

It really isn’t the general consensus here. Most women here are unironically calling him abusive and crapping on him, while ignoring the fact these are private texts leaked from over a year ago by a salty ex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:00 PM
0

We don’t know the context of what her relationship was with the male surfer friends. And at least you admit your definition doesn’t really work, you’re trying to insist boundaries can’t set your partners actions which is ridiculous. Okay forget cheating, how about your partner starting an OnlyFans? Going to the club and twerking? Sleeping over at a male friends house? Or even worse at an exes house? According to you, none of these violate boundaries per your definition because you can’t define w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:49 PM
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That’s so stupid, so it’s impossible for your partner to violate your boundaries because boundaries are only defined in the context of your personal actions? That definition doesn’t work well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:40 PM
1

I tested your definition of “textbook emotional abuse” and it crumpled under an iota of scrutiny. Then you claim I’m being obtuse. Maybe your definition just sucks. There was nothing in the texts that sounded like a “threat” either, he just said it wasn’t really working for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:14 PM
4

Absolutely. And frankly we don’t know the real context of the messages because we don’t know their relationship. Only thing relevant is a salty ex reveals private texts after Jonah is having a kid with another woman. Nothing else really matters
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:12 PM
4

Because it adds context dummy, she clearly didn’t care about any of this enough to release it all to the public until she saw her ex move on with another woman while she’s probably still single. It’s the only real relevant piece of info because we don’t specifically know the nature of their relationship outside these texts this goofy surfer chick distastefully released.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:41 PM
1

We don’t know what those actions were though, that’s what makes it all so stupid. We have absolutely zero clue the context and the specifics of what his ex did so judging is even dumber. Either way, he was amicable in what he wanted and said it wasn’t working for him. He can leave for any reason he wants frankly, it’s not abusive of him to say he’s not interested in how their relationship currently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:39 PM
7

It’s literally the only important piece of information in all of this, everything else is just a distraction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:37 PM
1

“Hey you can’t cheat on me otherwise I’ll leave” “you’re emotionally abusive!”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:37 PM
2

It’s important to know he’s having a baby with a different woman and moved on and she’s the salty one distastefully releasing texts from over a year ago, it’s lame revenge porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:36 PM
2

The takes from the women on this sub are delusional. First off it’s a private situation and conversation, we don’t know the details of how the ex was behaving, and even then Jonah was reasonably respectful in the texts saying she can keep doing whatever she wants, but it’s just not working for him, and he still gets crapped on for it. It’s seriously starting to seem like women unironically believe any dislikes about their behavior their partner voices is now “controlling”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:27 PM
3

Boundaries can be whatever you want them to be, he even said in the text if you want to keep doing this I’ll support you but don’t want to be in a relationship anymore. It’s not controlling if you’re saying, “this isn’t working for me so maybe we should part ways if you aren’t interested in what I want”, nobody is being forced or coerced to stay in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:18 PM
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“Hey don’t sleep with other people” “That’s not a valid boundary”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:13 PM
4

I have yet to see one criticism on how lame it is she released those texts. There was nothing blatantly “abusive” about anything in them, sure maybe it was a little lame and insecure on Jonah’s part, but it was crazy inappropriate to expose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:11 PM
1

Exactly idk what this delusion is “I’m just here to dance and have a good time bro!”, I guarantee if you knew in advance there were only dudes there you probably wouldn’t want to go “party” at that venue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:44 PM
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Lmfao, this tale makes no sense. Part of “partying” is sleeping around or hooking up with the opposite sex. It’s not just getting drunk in a bar and leaving alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:00 PM
2

I think the gradient of status affects this dynamic. Leo DiCaprio is one of the most famous men on the planet, so that makes sense to me despite his looks waning. Somebody sort of famous but not quite at that level would probably need good looks too. Then going even further some non famous millionaire would probably need to be good looking as well to pull a lot. (IMO) I
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:59 PM
2

But even in your example you use the word “hot”, you admit the famous millionaire has to be good looking. I think if it’s a super famous person than the bar for looks is much lower, but if it’s some kind of popular person in their niche with a bunch of IG followers, he’s probably going to need to be good looking to get a woman to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:47 PM
1

This is the correct answer, a close second would be status, although looks are a form of status anyway. As much as women delude themselves, the man who gets sex the quickest with the least strings attached is the ones that’s valued. This is simply a fact. And the men that do are the very good looking ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:42 PM
3

Here’s why it won’t work: Women like sex with very attractive men. Whatever fetishes, kinks, sexual intricacies they have is predicated on them doing it with men they consider physically attractive. However schools can’t really say that because most men aren’t attractive to women and never really will be physically (inb4 the self improooovers reply) and we need betabuxxers to keep working and paying taxes with their future wife who isn’t attracted to him as an incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:55 AM
1

Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:06 PM
5

Sure, but at that point who cares honestly. Everyone on this sub will be dead or too old to care about dating/sexual dynamics. We’ll look back at this time astonished that women got away with everything but murder IF we’re lucky and have some self awareness as a culture 50 years from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:26 PM
8

I respect the overall impact of the manosphere although I find them unbearably corny. They are making it less likely I agree, but there will always be a guy with no self respect willing to marry low value women simply because they are starving for attention. All the simps in their 20’s that exist right now shelling out money just for a scrap of attention from e-girls and OnlyFans girls, they are the beta buxxers of tomorrow. I’d love to say there will be a shift, but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:33 PM
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That’s not what he’s saying though. He’s saying dating stats show that tall white men are the most preferred in the western dating marketplace by WOMEN. That’s not to say they are better, but women in general clearly think they are for sex and dating. The fact that he’s struggling is indicative of how bad dating has gotten for men. And I’m saying this as someone who isn’t white.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:17 PM
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Because the ignorant ones that are above 30 become eligible to become beta-buxx for women that never would have looked at them in their 20’s but now must settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:15 PM
2

Most of RP doesn’t care about what older women do, they’re old so it doesn’t matter what they look like or how they choose to dress. If anything it’s kind of cringe seeing them try and dress sexy like women in their early 20’s, it’s like an old balding guy trying to take his shirt off in a sexy way lmao. Nobody is really “lusting” after them the way women in their early 20’s are sought after, so they can do whatever they like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:43 PM
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