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CMVthrowaway193741/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:04 PM
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Because she's a stupid fucking cunt who couldn't figure out that having a pussy = everyone wants to fuck you Jesus fucking christ when the person who has 94948389202 options can't pick one, it's because they're judgemental cunts, not because they couldn't find anyone. I know women who have rejected perfectly good men for the stupidest fucking reasons. They tried asking abt a test in uni they both had (sexist). They tried talking abt smth they rly liked (mansplaining). They 'mansplained' about cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:00 PM
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Yeah you're basically just a cunt who needs therapy Like bruh you actually have 'I AM SEXIST' as your flair And you don't see the problem with that For the same reasons you're sexist to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:24 AM
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Another woman giving a man shit for airing his grievances. This is part of the problem. 'Toxic masculinity' is used as a blunt object by women who had shitty dads/brothers/family members whose abuse they never moved on from because society keeps womens' agency undeveloped simultanouesly both to their detriment and for their benefit. And before u get mad at me saying that, isn't that the same thing proponents of toxic masculinity say? So why should women be exempt? Maybe people just suck in gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:04 PM
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Watching real life play out makes me agree with them. Third wave feminism is entitlement. My 'male privilege' hasn't saved or helped me. The only thing I get out of it is that I can walk alone at night, and that's only because most people genuinely don't give a fuck about me. Men who feel disillusioned with modern feminism aren't misogynists. They're just rational. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:02 PM
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Im 6'3 but occasionally feel insecure abt other things like my face. Can't imagine what things are like for a dude under 6 foot tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:01 AM
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No but really though why would it matter/how is your previous comment relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:56 PM
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..."literally" viewed that way? Show me the historic texts proving that these were commonly-held beliefs or laws. Seriously. Let me see them. Edit: American and English men got the vote for free (i.e. without having to own land or serve in the military) after women did. So... does that mean men couldn't vote either? If I refuse to sign up for the draft, I can be fined 350k, imprisoned for over a year, and have my right to vote taken away. Do you mean that doesn't count as political disenfranchis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:23 AM
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So none of their wives, girlfriends, or other family members could've stepped in, batted their eyelashes a bit, and said pretty please don't do those things? I'm once again going to need stats on colonialism, arson, fraud, and murder. Because as it stands, stats preclude female perpetrators of rape because it's not even considered a crime in the USA and UK when they do it. I'm not making this shit up. There literally aren't laws about it. Women can legally rape American and British men in 2022. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:40 AM
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'Toxic masculinity doesn't mean what you think it means' Then says 'men are responsible for all the pain, suffering, trauma and death in this world' Then expects us to believe that the phrase 'toxic masculinity' isn't used by militants to shit on maleness. It's the people who say there's nothing wrong with the term who are also the most offensive toward men. This is precisely the issue my post was alluding to, and now they've come out the woodwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:24 AM
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That's... not the fucking point. Now you're just being even more intentionally obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:53 AM
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Go for it. Still, 150 million people must all be wrong. I didn't know I was in the presence of an oracle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:52 AM
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Top results on Google are proooobably a decent indicator of social barometry. The things that are popular within a socirty are usually good signals of what that society supports and likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:55 AM
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You're on person. N=1. Meanwhile all of my exes have dropped me for crying. That's like... n=12. 12:1 ratio don't look too good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:53 AM
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I didnt say you said it. I said the person to whom I originally replied said it. Fucking read and get some therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:51 AM
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Also, does your autistic 'boyfriend' know you're trolling around on subreddits using autism as an insult? Go back to FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:50 AM
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Prove their assertions that women are generally kinder/better than men. That's something they said. And I want proof. All your bullshittery is only proving that people hate seeing men complain. The irony of this whole exchange is that it only further evidences the fact that men cannot afford to show emotions, else women will absolutely shit down their throats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:49 AM
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So 150+ million people are wrong and you're right? Christ that's* arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:46 AM
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False equivalency. Also, way to use autism as an insult. You mean the same wars that feminists now refuse to sign up for but still expect men to fight and die in? None of them want to make selective service compulsory for women. I wonder what the ladies of the white feather campaigns were thinking. Guess that was just all that 'internalized misogyny'. You still haven't bothered reflecting on their assertion that women are more likely to die protecting their children, are likelier to be kind/comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:44 AM
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Yeah, so many women generally like being hit and otherwise hurt in certain contexts (by men who don't cry). Yeah, there's totally no connection between that and other traits straight women look for in men. None at all. I'm just batshit fucking insane. /s {Edited for clarity}
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:33 AM
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Yes, it does, because they're direct fucking quotes: ​ "Think of the most horrific disturbing and soulless acts you can imagine. They’re all mostly committed by men: child rape, genocide, sexual slavery, chattel slavery, mutilation, torture etc." Okay, prove it. Show me. Actually prove it. "whereas women are much more likely to sacrifice their lives for children, participate in charity and in general be more caring and empathetic" I want stats on this. Who said? How do we 'know' this? Their enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:31 AM
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It's not. I'm asking for stats because there are no laws on the books in the US or UK defining rape as rape when a woman does it to a man. Ask any male victim of female abuse whether anyone really cared. It's simply not in the public consciousness. People have no idea that wetnurses used to jack off pre-teens in Victorian England for fun, which was a systemic form of female-on-male sexual abuse, but I guess nothing like that really counts. [Edit: but also, give me some god damn stats indicating …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:18 AM
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Also, real quick, I'll ask you: where in 50 Shades did Christian Grey ever cry or show genuine emotional vulnerability? Just wondering. Doesn't take a research assistantship to figure that out. The fact that it's not included in the book or movie is pretty damning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:15 AM
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Yes, it does, actually, because those same straight women obviously value men not showing vulnerability. Man cries>Women lose respect for him>Man learns to hide emotions>Man is denigrated for being too stoic How is this not a logical sequitur? Women perpetuate toxic masculinity as much as men do, for different but similar reasons. [Edit: wait lemme go ask my ex why she dumped me because I cried about trauma. I'll ask my mother why she and all our female family members forced me to "be a man" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:57 AM
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I'm not asking you for anything. If I had been, you would know. I would have stated it plainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:55 AM
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Hmm, they're the top results out of 9,890,000 results. Fuck me, maybe I should be looking on page 13. Brb. Here you go: https://hbr.org/2018/11/how-masculinity-contests-undermine-organizations-and-what-to-do-about-it Also, don't tell me not to cite sources like HuffPo or BuzzFeed, because they have considerably large readerships. I guess I'm dumb for thinking that pop media could reasonably be used to investigate what commonly-held beliefs and attitudes are even though they're... popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:54 AM
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I already have, and you know damn well you saw it but still handwaved it away with 'you're biased'. Hence me saying "again". Can't make a sexist horse drink. Selection bias has no place in academia. Men are tired as fuck of being told #killallmen, or that toxic masculinity is 100% their fault when women damn well know they wanna fuck Chad Emotionless and Mr. Muscular Triangle-syndrome. I'mma go ask all the women who lost respect for me the second I let them see me shedding tears why so many stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:44 AM
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Define "traditional". Is it toxic masculinity if women hit males and expect to get away with it because they're female? Is it toxic masculinity when women lose respect for males when they cry after getting hit by anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:40 AM
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Where the fuck did I claim your brother crying was unacceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:27 AM
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...can you substantiate these claims with actual stats? If not, please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:26 AM
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Literally every source I've read on 'toxic masculinity' waxes prosaic about how it harms women, and why that's one of the good reasons we need to redefine masculinity. Literally every single time it's brought up, it's discussed in reference to how it negatively affects women. Don't make me collect like 10 different links from google again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:25 AM
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ClassicLiberal raises a good question: if women shaming or ostracizing men for crying or otherwise showing weakness, would that be considered 'toxic femininity'? Or would it be explained away as 'toxic masculinity'? If the latter, then yes, I would assert that is sexist. Blaming men for the problems they face even when they're supported/maintained/upheld/proliferated by women as well. Maybe it's not a 'toxic' anything. Maybe it's just humans being hairless apes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:24 AM
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Me recognizing that you haven't cited any historical documents/texts, or any results of anthropological studies regarding the prevalence of rape as a cause of genetic proliferation, is not an ad hominem attack. I desire legitimate historic data indicating rape (or otherwise non-consensual sex) comprised some substantial percentage of human offspring, wherein 'substantial' might reasonably be defined as, let's say, 20% or more. That's 1/5th, which I personally believe to be quite a lot. "I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:21 AM
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Well yeah, within that specific context, 'dump' is synonymous with 'break up with'. In this context, it sounds more like 'screw them and then drop them', which seems like a more common scenario than 'someone in a relationship has sex with their partner without telling them they're planning on breaking up with them immediately after'. That one sounds a little... rarer, I'd say. It's way more specific/context-dependent than 'ah they had a one night stand and then ghosted them'. {Edited for clarity…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:37 PM
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That point/upper limit is contextual/environmentally defined, yes. It's still a limit though, and it's still difficult to identify (precisely because it's subject to environmental rules and factors). Hence me saying "the key is learning where [it] is." "Certain" in "certain point" was meant to indicate this. {Edited for clarity}
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:33 PM
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Google tells me it's a form of securities fraud, which... is not what we're looking for here. Wiktionary tells me it's "(transitive, slang) 'To have sex with a partner on a single occasion, without intention or prospects of further contact, or engaging in a serious relationship.' " However, Slangdefine says it's "When a man has sexual intercourse with a woman, and then breaks up with her (if they are in a relationship) or never speaks to or makes contact with them again after the aforesaid act."…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:31 PM
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So you'd just call it ghosting? I'd be more apt to call what you described as 'straight up lying', which by itself is degrading asf. I tend to call things 'pump and dump' when it's a 'fuck and flee' or 'ejaculate and evacuate' sort of deal. I suppose you could reasonably argue that what you described is a specific version of 'pump and dump' with a layer of deceit laid on top, which only makes it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:13 PM
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I thought 'pump and dump' referred to 'sleep with, then ghost', akin to 'wham, bam, thank you ma'am'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:07 PM
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LMGTFY: https://gprivate.com/60tm9 [Edit: also, here https://www.google.com/search?q=toxic+femininity+definition&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS796US796&oq=toxic+femininity+definition&aqs=chrome..69i57j35i39j69i59j0i22i30l2j0i390j69i60l2.2907j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 ] Take your pick. They all generally say the same thing. I didn't write any of these articles. 'Toxic femininity is when women hurt themselves helping others for the benefit of the patriarchy' vs. 'toxic masculinity is the cause of all violenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:57 PM
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More aggression is a good thing up to a certain point. Past that threshold, it's frowned upon, mocked, rejected, etc. All things in moderation. The key is learning where that upper limit actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:45 PM
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Okay, so it's talked about. Just not nearly in the same manner. When discussed, it's framed as 'ways women hurt themselves while helping others, because patriarchy', rather than 'because complex psychosocial factors', whereas 'toxic masculinity' is generally framed as 'you are angry, violent, and homophobic, and must therefore be rehabilitated'. Here: "Toxic femininity is when one works to the benefit of others but to the detriment of themselves. It can appear as forms of depression, exhaustion,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:40 PM
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I agree, have my +1. I've still seen 'toxic masculinity' used broadly rather than surgically more often than not, though. Nobody would disagree that the toxic traits you listed are indeed toxic, because... they are. The assertion I'm making is that 'toxic masculinity' is an overused and misapplied term, used from a place of resentment or hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:22 PM
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I remember seeing your comments on other threads on this sub! You seem slightly thorny. It's called 'toxic masculinity' by people who dislike masculinity as a whole. Note how 'toxic femininity' simply isn't a thing in the public consciousness, because the common misconception is that men are largely more toxic than women. The reality is, women and men are bipedal hominid ape descendants with complex brains comprised of baser & more refined structures. Toxicity is equal amongst the sexes -- my as…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:16 PM
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You're right, 'toxic masculinity' as colloquially defined does not exist. I meant that it's half of the equation with regards to the conversation/overall dialogue we're having as a society. Calling out 'toxic masculinity' is really just people recognizing bits and pieces/individual mechanisms rather than acknowledging the whole. They place the onus entirely on the single gear called masculinity, saying 'men bad', instead of examining the entire machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:17 PM
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Fair point, but also probably blown out of proportion. I sense personal biases coming out to play here based on appeal to emotion ('it sounds reasonable because we know some men have been downright evil toward women') rather than logic or anything empirical. That's to say: neither you nor I have looked at historic texts/histories documenting various societies' attitudes toward this whole thing. I'd be careful of falling into the trap of thinking 'well, it sounds feasible, so... probably'. Men li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:14 PM
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Hamza is my fucking hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:39 PM
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For sure, also separating food habits from other habits so I don't form an association. Full disclosure though I've always been slender so fasting for weight loss doesn't rly apply to me, but I have found that not eating for a whole day somehow makes me feel mentally very sharp and pleasant for the following 12 or so hours. Really no idea what that's all about tho tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:38 PM
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That and exercise to help get you into a calorie deficit, but yeah fasting helps lots of ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:28 PM
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Are you being sincere rn? As an American man, I ain't gonna cap, yes, Americans do be helllla entitled. Fr we be acting as though the USA is the only country in the world. A lot of it comes down to ignorance for a number of factors including poor public education, expansive car-dependent geography wherein travel is cost-prohibitive (many Americans have left their own state only a handful of times -- even fewer ever venture outside the country), and propaganda. There's no logical sequitur between…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:25 PM
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Not sure why I'm getting downvoted. There are no US or UK laws on the books defining it was rape when the perp is female and victim is male. I mean... I'm not factually incorrect? So I guess people prefer feelings over facts, but that's not really news. If anyone can cite laws defining it as rape for me, I will eat my own shoes. Then again, this sub seems to have a lot of bleedover from both MensLib and TwoX. Seeing loooots of sexism from both sides on a lot of these posts. Edit: you gonna just.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:26 PM
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It was mostly all the other stuff, but even saying that can be rude depending on how it's said. He seemed genuinely just lonely and depressed, not entitled, angry, bitter, resentful or sexist. Just lonely 🤷‍♂️ and sadly lots of guys are. I mean I had my own sister subtly call me an incel by suggesting I check out that subreddit after I told her I was having problems with women at work getting upset at me/treating me poorly because I didn't want to sleep with them, for an array of reasons. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:14 PM
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He wasn't mean or rude to you at all, all he did was candidly explain why he feels so lonely and disillusioned, and you started insulting him. I don't see where he insulted or degraded you in any way, but I'm leaving this comment after my other one, so I will say I don't really think we're enemies here tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:38 PM
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...check my post history real quick. I think... I think maybe I'm starting to understand you were quick to be harsh because of unresolved trauma, and I'm absolutely not saying that in a frivolous or dismissive way. I say that out of recognizance. I know what that kind of trauma does to you, for sure :/ [Edit] to switch gears back to the original point, he's def not unhinged, just lonely asf and genuinely sad. But trauma still makes us sensitive to potential dangers so we can protect ourselves an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:31 PM
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You're not wrong! There are lots of good biological reasons women can't afford to engage casually. That's not even mentioning all the social reasons, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:17 PM
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He sounds "unhinged" to you because you have ostensibly never lived a life completely devoid of positive attention. It's genuinely traumatic. In short: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Based on your lack of compassion, you're the one who needs therapy. [Edited/redacted for fairness]
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:52 PM
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Please don't listen to this one person. They seem... incredibly mean and are projecting right now. Being constantly told by women that we need to open up and share our feelings, then having those same feelings invalidated and used as a springboard to launch ad hominem attacks from is confusing at best and abusive at worst. I'm tall and fairly attractive, but I still face crazy amounts of competition and judgment/'the ick' for the smallest of things. The average dude really is getting treated lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:49 PM
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Wow. You're not a very nice person at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:45 PM
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Perhaps not as frequently, for an array of reasons -- many of which I imagine may be biologically-driven (sociology is arguably an extension of biology). However, your original assertion that "almost all" sexual deviants are men lacks credibility due to highly, highly flawed data gathering methodologies. I have only ever been sexually harassed and abused by girls & women. Does this mean most sexual deviants are female? Of course not. But the powers that be are currently disinterested in gatherin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:31 PM
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Disingenuous? US and UK law dictate that women cannot, from a legal standpoint, rape men. There are basically no DV shelters for male victims. So, if certain genres of data are systematically ignored or precluded from collection, then yes, it follows that all pertinent statistical analyses will naturally reflect patterns trending in a certain direction. One would be left with an incomplete picture of what's really going on. E.g. if I only count the cars I see outside that are red (while predicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:14 PM
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No thoughts on how selection criteria govern outcomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:31 PM
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Jesus. Yeah man, I know the whole doctors thing, more than you know. Ffs. I'm tall asf and have never had anyone start a fight bc of that, but it does attract some less than positive attention from other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:44 PM
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It's not legally considered rape for a woman to rape a man in the US/much of the world. By this metric, then, women commit 0% of rapes. Mandatory arrest policies for DV (re: the Duluth model) in the US dictate that males get arrested even when they're the ones who got hit. The manner in which data gathering mechanisms are structured influences that which is collected versus ignored. Humans are notoriously biased. Stats on anything are often vulnerable to substantial adulteration, are subject to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:15 PM
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Substantiate this with facts, please. Otherwise it's just your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:53 AM
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Check out my post history real quick and then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:15 AM
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