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wow thanks
/r/seduction11/08/10 06:32 AM
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Don't think your girlfriend would like that very much.
/r/seduction11/08/10 06:32 AM
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Thanks very much for the customer perspective. What sort of guarantee? I mean, I can guarantee that you'll get laid, but that involves the use of prostitutes. No questions asked, money back guarantee would be much easier. Credentials I imagine I'd set up according to nuckingFutz's advice: videos and audio and blog posts. What else is there in this fledgling industry? Testimonials?
/r/seduction11/08/10 06:31 AM
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For some reason I doubt the trainers and instructors for RSD and the like make nearly the money they should. The businesses just come off as creepy to me. Maybe I'm completely mistaken. Still, I'd prefer to be my own boss on this one.
/r/seduction11/08/10 06:30 AM
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Well, I wish I had a clear guiding light telling me the way. But I do know that I'm willing to give up a very lucrative career to try this out. I don't have to quit the day job just yet, but I'd gladly take a 50% pay cut to live a life where it's my job to get people laid.
/r/seduction11/08/10 06:29 AM
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Don't listen to girls' advice on seduction. Seriously it never works.
/r/seduction09/06/10 08:35 AM
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I've done this on accident. Went to honestly buy some lingerie for a girlfriend's birthday. Somehow ended up with three victoria's secret staff competing for my attention, bringing me sexy things, etc. When I told them what her size was, one said, "Oh she's my size!" and started holding everything against her own body for comparison. This was before I knew about game. Even with opening with a girlfriend, it'd have been easy to get phone numbers ("You guys have been so helpful. Listen, can my gir…
/r/seduction09/06/10 08:34 AM
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Latina woman wanted you to suggest that she be the action. But, VERY well done. Props for having a cool lady friend - an invaluable ally. She should pivot more next time for preselection.
/r/seduction09/06/10 05:56 AM
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Not only that, but pay attention to the way virtually all of the marketing material speaks to the audience. It always implies a negative state on behalf of the audience. Always. It assumes you (the reader) are not good with women. It assumes you're the worst of the worst AFCs / beta - that you have trouble even kissing girls. It's not direct, but it's everywhere. It advertises "How to talk to women" not "how to be better at talking to women" or "ways to talk to women you might not be." If you re…
/r/seduction09/06/10 03:08 AM
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make her chase you Not sure if it's up on any torrent sites...
/r/seduction09/06/10 12:14 AM
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Tynan has some audio where he goes on an entire date with a girl, and later in his book describes how she ended up coming over. His style is particularly indirect, but it's the most comprehensive demonstration I've seen.
/r/seduction07/06/10 03:09 AM
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Jesus, thank you. The other comments in this thread make me sad for humanity.
/r/seduction05/06/10 11:25 PM
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That's damn good advice.
/r/seduction04/06/10 06:58 PM
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The sales of Cosmo would suggest otherwise. Girls talk about how to get guys all the time. It's socially acceptable for them to do so, where men are instinctual supposed to know how or just 'be themselves' to get women. Only attractive women choose. Less attractive women have to take whomever approaches them, which is rare.
/r/seduction29/05/10 01:21 PM
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You can encourage women to chase you. Disqualify, make them compete, blow them off (strategically).
/r/seduction29/05/10 05:44 AM
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go pick up another pizza when she's there go, "Oh hey I remember you!" Don't reveal that you're facebook stalking her. Flirt with other girls.
/r/seduction29/05/10 05:31 AM
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Use smileys sparingly. They reek of approval-seeking behavior. The only exception I'd say is if you're responding using a smiley when she asked a direct question. BAD: Her: "Hey wanna get together?" You: "Yeah I'd really like that =)" Her: "Hey wanna get together?" You: "=)" Would you text back if you were engaged in really fascinating activities? No? Then just let it drop.
/r/seduction29/05/10 05:30 AM
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I'd just say, don't oversell on attraction. If you do send her something and she texts back right away, give her a call - texting is a poor substitute for voice.
/r/seduction27/05/10 02:45 PM
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You need to call her on her shit. Doesn't matter how or for what, or if it even makes sense, just put yourself above her. You're already deep into the friend zone.
/r/seduction26/05/10 07:51 AM
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Yeah, go talk to some real chicks. Even the pretty ones are rarely approached unless they're bar sluts or stand out in the crowd.
/r/seduction26/05/10 07:36 AM
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don't feed the trolls
/r/seduction26/05/10 03:59 AM
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Very interesting. Thanks. I'll seek out a lair once I'm a bit more settled and keep the phone consult as an extra card up my sleeve, if the lair doesn't give me the extra kick.
/r/seduction23/05/10 10:01 AM
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What's your favorite subreddit? No cheating and saying seddit! Edit: Some great advice in the thread already. Impressive. So impressive that I'm going to ask two more questions: What's your experience with non-LS lairs, if any? What would LS recommend for mid-market folk who aren't going to shell out for a bootcamp, but would appreciate mentoring, and yet make a bit too much to volunteer as an intern?
/r/seduction23/05/10 07:48 AM
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Oh god, at first I thought this was massively cheesy self-help advice, "Respect whoever you are." The comma makes all the difference. Great story.
/r/seduction21/05/10 09:45 PM
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great idea for the next post
/r/seduction19/05/10 12:39 PM
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Hey listen, according to my informal statistics and analysis, only 94.3% of reddit has that problem. So you're technically only 94.3% correct. Oh. Oh I see. Carry on then.
/r/seduction19/05/10 04:40 AM
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They can't get guys to commit.
/r/seduction19/05/10 04:34 AM
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Yeah, mostly this. I was just living different flavors of this experience, really. Got a good term for that behavior? Something that captures it as well as 'nice guy'?
/r/seduction19/05/10 04:32 AM
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Sounds like a perfect dom/sub relationship
/r/seduction18/05/10 10:19 PM
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...? Who are you responding to? Nobody in this entire thread has talked about chasing status.
/r/seduction18/05/10 10:19 PM
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Yeah!! When she turns down all the dates, instead to invite you over, you know that's trouble. Yeah, you're at her place, so you'll get laid, but whatever spark brought you together fades so quickly when you just lump around for hours. Girls complain about this a lot in guys; they only want to watch TV or play videogames, but it's certainly includes a lot of women.
/r/seduction18/05/10 08:21 PM
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I was once attacked by three fatties in a bar; they surrounded me and put their hands on me in inappropriate places. I shudder even thinking about it. Somehow I survived, though I will forever be tainted.
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:21 PM
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Take em! Please! I hope your harem includes thousands if not millions of women.
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:19 PM
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I am most flattered, if a bit confused why.
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:17 PM
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OH GOD YES Thank you. I forgot about boring girl. Which is really boring girl's super power. Hell, I almost married boring girl, and I still forgot her from the list.
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:17 PM
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I was thinking of one girl in particular when I wrote that. This girl would purposefully mimic things that she'd seen in movies or read about. She'd gaze into your eyes on purpose, even though it would get extremely awkward. She'd lick her lips "seductively" but it would come off as mechanical and stereotyped bad quality porn scripting. She tried to lick her breast the way you see in other bad stereotypical porn, except that didn't work as she had A cups. The one blowjob she gave (hey, I had to …
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:15 PM
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Oh man, you write like it. You constantly correct and reframe everything, and talk with a god's eye view of the world rather than offering personal perspectives. Not criticizing at all; it's a very authoritative writing style, and one I see a lot in PUA literature. If you're not into PUA, what got you interested in these topics?
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:10 PM
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Yeah, you nailed it.
/r/seduction18/05/10 06:05 PM
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While I have been to Thailand and have some opportunity to personally change as a woman, I'm not going to be taking that route anytime soon.
/r/seduction18/05/10 03:10 PM
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See, I don't subscribe to the PUA-sphere mindset that beauty is everything. Yes, beauty is the most important attribute of a woman's attractiveness, but a beautiful woman with the wrong personality attributes will drive me away ever so fast. Beauty is attractive, but once attracted, it's not enough to maintain a relationship.
/r/seduction18/05/10 03:08 PM
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A girl once called me a 'cad' and so that's how I refer to this behavior. In fact, for really young girls (18-20) that's a great opener, "Hey, this girl just called me a cad. Do you know what that means?" You'd be surprised how many don't. And know what normal people call pickup? Going out to a bar. Or, talking to girls. Nobody will ever look at you funny if you say, "Hey I'm going to go talk to those girls," yet they will all know your intentions.
/r/seduction18/05/10 12:40 PM
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Yes, that's the implication.
/r/seduction16/05/10 09:54 PM
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Enlighten this poor retarded soul, good sir? To me it just seems good old fashioned curiosity about a girl whom I've just met and am having a friendly conversation with.
/r/seduction16/05/10 04:07 AM
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The first one seems just too snarky to me. The second one... if he's waiting for her at home while she's out, that indicates a major problem in their relationship.
/r/seduction16/05/10 03:59 AM
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I've heard the following recommended, though I personally don't use them: "Jeez, we just met and you're already telling me about your problems." Or just: "Oh where is he?" (very subtle implications there) But my personal favorite is just to friendzone them. Girls break up with boyfriends all the time. I'll invite her to parties but never dates, etc.
/r/seduction16/05/10 02:43 AM
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You got lucky. Upvoted.
/r/seduction15/05/10 08:10 PM
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Kiss her the next time you see her. I don't care if it's at her parents house and her Big Uncle Bob is there, when you walk in, kiss her, and then act like it isn't a big deal. Kissing is the gate to further exploration, got it? If she looks away or rebuffs you, don't react poorly. Try again in 15-30 minutes, or when the time is right. Do not wait for the perfect moment; there's no such thing, it's only a rationalization romantics use.
/r/seduction14/05/10 01:11 PM
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If you've met her at a bar or club, somewhere where people are hoping for a hook up, then you have to wow her completely and find an excuse to make it to her place. Tell her that a friend is crashing at your place, or that her place is closer to your work. If this is a social circle or day-game pickup, you'll be scheduling a future meeting. Ask if she's a good cook. If she says yes, tell her to prove it, you'll bring the wine. If not, offer to cook for her. Start planning out ingredients verball…
/r/seduction14/05/10 01:02 PM
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While that's decent advice, I'd caution any man from taking women's advice on seducing women too seriously. It's like asking a food critic to teach you how to cook.
/r/seduction14/05/10 12:56 PM
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no true Scotsman!
/r/seduction13/05/10 03:41 PM
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It's still too simple. I don't sarge anymore. I have a busy life and just meet interesting people on the way. By your standard I'd have well over 100%.
/r/seduction13/05/10 03:16 AM
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Agreed. Have to factor in beauty, or this scale is meaningless. I could score above 100% if beauty isn't an issue (ie, fuck 3 fat girls for every time I go sarging).
/r/seduction13/05/10 03:14 AM
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You're on the right track. Usually goes like this, "So are the rumors true?" What rumors? "Well it's none of my business really, but if you need to hide from the cops you can stay at my place."
/r/seduction12/05/10 01:28 PM
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Horray! Well done sir. Have you read Feynmann's essay "You just ask them?" You remind me of him, somehow. Note: Feynmann was a physicist, not a pickup artist.
/r/seduction12/05/10 06:00 AM
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What is that 'clanging' noise? Oh it must be imperi's huge balls of steel hitting each other as he walks.
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:56 AM
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Been reading about pickup for about 8 years now. Just lurking on sosuave at the beginning, reading about it gradually from various sources over time. Slept with 13 women in that time. The latest of which is a music photographer who regularly turns down booty calls from rockstars. Been with her a year now.
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:54 AM
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I heard this Roissy guy is in the DC area.
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:42 AM
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Reddit: should we start a subreddit to do the same thing? Kind of like gonewild, but for with clothes on?
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:42 AM
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Been comparing photos ... but the photos are clearly not of the same women. What's the point then?
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:41 AM
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What subreddit would work better?
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:38 AM
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Details Men's Style Manual
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:38 AM
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Come back and give advice when you've actually helped someone other than yourself.
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:36 AM
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HOLY SHIT NO Why would you be buying gifts for girls?
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:32 AM
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"So are the rumors true?"
/r/seduction12/05/10 05:30 AM
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They told me if I read "The Game" then I'd get lots of bitches, sooo
/r/seduction11/05/10 11:26 PM
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I can think of no better way to demonstrate how 'alpha' i am to the seduction subreddit than by taming your little doggies.
/r/seduction11/05/10 09:13 PM
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The women are REALLY pretty, even though they all look the same. The men are also REALLY buff and gorgeous, perhaps even more so than the women. So you'll have some competition. And they all have dreamboat jobs like scuba instructors or pro surfers or firemen or marines.
/r/seduction11/05/10 07:54 PM
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I just don't understand why he would send me copious messages about missing me and wanting to see me and then...blow me off. Because he doesn't know how to express his need for distance. He probably feels that he'll let you down - either because he needs a break, or because he needs to call it off. Like, imagine if you went into work everyday telling them how excited you were to work there. Then, later, when it becomes just another job, you still have to tell them that you're still excited to wo…
/r/seduction11/05/10 07:53 PM
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"Be close, but have space between." Sounds like this guy is acting like the perfect committed gentleman because he thinks that's what women want. He likes you, so he tries to communicate the way he imagines you like it (ie, frequently and with many promises). So when he does need some space, he's not sure how to express it. He can't ask without fear of driving you off, so instead he clams up and leaves you guessing. This is straight out of 'Men are from Mars.' This is totally normal. Give him sp…
/r/seduction11/05/10 05:56 PM
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Asian men can get away with being a lot more spiritual and less like fucking patchouli smelling hippies than most white guys. And girls (particularly around LA) eat that shit up.
/r/seduction10/05/10 05:18 PM
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I read the whole thing. This is mostly sour grapes. Much of it is valid criticism, much is just picking nits, some of it is outright wrong. Neil Strauss always stresses one thing in his interviews and writing: that he used to be a loser. It's very clear Aaron Sleazy was never that loser. He had at least a basic amount of social intuition. He's gone on to expand on that considerably, but he never had to think about what flirting was or why teasing could actually be a good thing. Pickup material h…
/r/seduction10/05/10 02:17 AM
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This is just some guy taking PUA derived knowledge without the creepy underground internet-nerd community aspect. Good for them!
/r/seduction08/05/10 08:23 AM
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There are enough women out there that your strategy will work enough of the time. Seduction only really is useful if you're aiming for extra-ordinary results: a high number of women, or the most beautiful of women. It's very normal for a normal guy to get a normal girl with normal tactics.
/r/seduction08/05/10 08:22 AM
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Page not found...
/r/seduction05/05/10 03:22 PM
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Oh boy, if she's like the asian women I've dated, you have to initiate the first few weeks, but after that you better watch out. Repression only fuels the sex drive and the deeper the repression, the more there is to let out.
/r/seduction04/05/10 01:19 PM
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"Just be yourself" doesn't mean anything. It's like telling people who are unhealthy to "eat more vegetables" or "an apple a day" really is just bullshit. It's just a line that people can throw out there when you're making them uncomfortable and they don't want to think about your problems. So don't take it as literal advice. The subtext to anyone telling you to "be yourself" is that you are annoying them.
/r/seduction01/05/10 05:05 PM
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Grew up in a small town, was saving it for marriage, finally got tired of saving it. There's way more girls out there like this than you know. They're just hard to meet at bars.
/r/seduction30/04/10 05:55 PM
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You don't have to, nor should you, be charismatic at all times. You're allowed to have moods, even bad ones, even ones where you tear into someone for no reason. In fact, the higher status you are, the more these moods are forgiven, even expected. Try it out next time you're in such a situation. If you're really not feeling like talking, be as gruff and curt and closed as possible. You may find the hairdresser trying to open you up more - after all, it's part of her job to talk to her clients, e…
/r/seduction30/04/10 02:45 PM
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I've commented on this before. Reddit user sshields is the author of the site: http://www.reddit.com/user/sshields Edit: example http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/boo72/reddit_whats_the_worst_pickup_line_youve_ever/c0ntjic?context=3
/r/seduction30/04/10 12:28 AM
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Dress like a pimp.
/r/seduction29/04/10 05:16 PM
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Uh, this is just pointing out an already painful truth. No constructive advice to speak of. If you're short, fat, older, or asian: Feature what you can't fix. Don't be obnoxious about it. Fat guys: Remind them subtly that nobody fucks with a man of your size, and that you can protect her. Short guys: You can be sillier and more comfortable than tall guys. Really. Tall guys are awkward and lanky. Awkward and lanky are not a turn on. Get in closer to her, make her laugh. It won't feel like an adva…
/r/seduction29/04/10 05:14 PM
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My uncle and I talk about this from time to time. He's gay, I'm not, he's a classic "AFC" even in the gay community! Now women generally have different goals when it comes to dating. They want to convince men that they're unique and special and one should commit to them. You can run some of that game if you want a gay relationship. However, if you're just after the cock, show off your body. That's the thing women do the best; they've studied it for a long time. Gym, fashion, grooming are extreme…
/r/seduction29/04/10 03:21 PM
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Man, thanks for this. I've long since realized that all my childhood friends are AFCs. That's okay; they're still buddies. Still, finding a new social circle with high status men (especially guys outside the community; I don't want to get pulled into this any more) is really difficult. We're actually very rare. Any suggestions on finding decent men to spend my time with? I never thought I'd have that problem...
/r/seduction26/04/10 09:21 PM
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The introduction is really the only thing that will help you. It highlights the power of thinking seductively, and seeing all of life's interactions as beneficent manipulation. It points out rather well that if you can't avoid being seduced, so you might as well seduce as well. The archetypes and other nonsense are largely fluff. They won't help you; they can be distilled to more concise and effective game tactics (push-pull, strategic indifference, peacocking, etc).
/r/seduction26/04/10 09:18 PM
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Eh, middle ground: Make vague plans. When you want to see her, bring them up again. When you don't want to see her, let them drop without specifics.
/r/seduction26/04/10 09:15 PM
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Good luck, man! What ever you do with her, make sure you bring another girl friend along with you. It can just be a friend. Doesn't even have to be an attractive friend (just ... not unattractive). You need this actress to see you as a sexual person, not an IT geek. Having female friends helps, as long as the female friend is following you and not you orbiting her.
/r/seduction26/04/10 09:14 PM
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Yeah!!! or "something on your mind, little girl?"
/r/seduction20/04/10 04:50 AM
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Not a shit test, that's flirting. A shit test is saying, "Don't get any ideas, old man."
/r/seduction19/04/10 01:11 PM
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At work I have somewhat of a reputation as a cad, so at a bar schmoozing with some of the older guys, they dare me to get the bartender's number. It wasn't particularly busy. I walk up to the bar, get the girl's attention, and say to her something along the lines of, "Hey, my colleagues over there want to know if I'm a good salesman, and they say the test is if he can get a girl's phone number. I don't want your phone number, but if you'd write down seven random digits and a fake name on a napki…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:09 AM
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Holy shit, you did it! The first time I went to a bar alone, I didn't talk to anyone. Not the whole night. My only goal was: to get comfortable in a bar alone. In my own head I pretended to have some sort of drama where I needed to be alone and brooding. Two girls approached me during this night. One said, "What?" (that was her opener). When I looked at her, she said, "I thought you said something." It died after that. Another wanted me in a picture with her and her girlfriends. I didn't say a w…
/r/seduction18/04/10 08:11 AM
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You're reading too much into a small statement. I'm not rewarding her for sex. I'm rewarding her for 'good behavior,' ie, openness and willingness when talking about sex and inviting myself over. I see the sex as part of my reward for her, which is why it's in the list. And cooking for women is extremely sexy, because they'll be nosy and want to know what's going on. It's not like I'm going to sit her at her computer while I do all the work. You're reading too much into it. In your post, you acc…
/r/seduction18/04/10 06:57 AM
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All women are complicit in their own seduction. They let it happen; society ensures they can turn you away at any time. However, women who know it's happening can aid in the process and get your juices flowing better. They can better roleplay or suggest innuendo, make double-entendres, or outright eye-fuck you when you say something sexy. On the flip side, today I flirted with a (cute, young, russian) girl and she was so nervous she could only be serious; she didn't pick up on any of the fun hin…
/r/seduction17/04/10 06:57 PM
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It would make it better if the girls knew. Do you like it when your girl wears a push-up bra or wears a thong?
/r/seduction17/04/10 06:27 PM
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Roosh's Bang is a better introduction for lay-people than the jargon-heavy Mystery/Style stuff.
/r/seduction17/04/10 08:23 AM
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It's amazing how all the girls recognize how important 'chemistry' and 'attraction' are, and yet have no idea how such things work. They really just sit back and wait for magic to happen; not knowing that some guys know how to make it happen, and most don't, but that it isn't nearly as natural and spontaneous as they think. Example: "And chemistry. Not just social interaction style chemistry. I really believe in pheramones and loads of things we're not totally conscious of that cause attraction …
/r/seduction17/04/10 03:44 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/seduction16/04/10 02:06 PM
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