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There are, but those who are even remotely attractive and have any brains only know the CC, hence the frustration you see here. If you are an attractive man you learn to accept it and take the sex is offered you, if you aren't there is nothing worth of mention left. A point could be made that given the chance most average men would also engage in the casual sex in the same way average women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:34 PM
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Confidence is not self given, if it was everyone could acquire a Chad behaviour overnight. But it's not. Confidence is given by progressive success with the opposite sex. There's a reason why most attractive men are so confident (arrogant?) to the point of being toxic. They were given attention since their teenager years while the rest of the other boys watched from the sidelines. It is stupid and irrealistic to think any of those boys can possibly gain the same level of social and sexual experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 01:29 AM
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Well that should tell you all there is to know about him. Time to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:53 AM
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Guys don't want to be pursued from women, they want women to be active and participate. Dating is a two way interaction, but if it's only the man asking questions and women replying in monosyllables than it's a turn off. That man has no interest in you so I wouldn't take him as an example that your tactic or FDS tactic (seriously?) has worked. If he believes he has a chance at bedding you he will write regardless of what you do or don't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:49 AM
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I'll agree that gold diggers make less harm than the average women settling as they are way more obvious and men who engage with them know what those types of women look like and want from them. Don't forget this is the very reason you'll barely ever see one of those millionaires having a "long-term" gold digger, rather they often do short term "leases". There's a story around the Internet about a Craigslist ad from a gold digger complaining she couldn't bag a rich man, long story short she got …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:58 AM
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Men marrying up in looks is wishful thinking at most. The world is not full of beautiful women, simply because beautiful people overall are a minority for both genders. Most of them are just average marrying also average. I assume that, given women's tendency of overestimating their looks, when the time comes they must all think they dated "down".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:32 AM
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The world is going backwards in many fields, why dating would be any different? I feel like the average individual should give up on relationships altogether and keep things casually only, without cohabitation, sharing finances, let alone marriages. Polygamy seems a preference for many women these days anyway. And the one who would want traditional relationship are delusional and can't understand that those relationships went extinct the moment we abandoned traditional gender roles. We are here …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:23 AM
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Same for femininity, it's the opposite of a woman who wants to be a desired princess, who wants men try to please her, who wants easy life with a man providing for her and - they are not feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:55 AM
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Yes, the narrative that over 30 men start pulling girls left and right is quite naive. But the solution is not to compete with their money as you say, it's to improve the best they can their looks and person in general and see what happens, with the financial discipline to never spend resources on women. The "We can't always get what we want" will apply to women as well as their age goes on, but definitely we are not talking about the hot girls that have the upper hand during their early twentie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:41 AM
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The way to avoid being a beta bucks is to not beta bucking (every significant expense half/half, no marriage, no kids). If she sticks around she's not doing it for the money. I think men need to stop worrying about things which they have no control over. If you don't want to spend money on a woman, don't ask yourself how you can be seen as the alpha male who doesn't need to spend money on a woman, rather just DON'T SPEND MONEY ON WOMEN. Find a balance in what she can afford and what you can affo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:31 AM
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Every time I read a "Question for women" I wonder what's the point. They are not here to let us into their minds, they are here to just gather what is crossing ours. Every time a woman ask a man what are the red flags he looks for on his dates, do people really think she's asking to improve herself?? No she's asking to know what she should hide. The only trustworthy observation of women comes from their actions not their pretty words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:22 AM
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If a woman doesn't like a man because he's average it's OK as it is her right. What is NOT OK is when said woman decides to artificially downgrade her "preferences" later in her life to hookup any man into marriage, having kids, sharing finances. If you did like a specific type of man then keep it consistent, don't alter your standards so they fit your selfish opportunistic purposes. That's where the main issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:13 AM
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Definitely not offended, just disappointed. Most men lose respect for women with very promiscous pasts, nothing will ever change that. It has nothing to do with her being a bad person or anything of that sort. It's just that there is a middle ground between being a virgin and being very promiscous and most men prefer someone with a few experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:04 AM
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Are you encouraging men going with prostitutes or simp their money away to young girls? I am confused, but I know for a fact that simping is ALWAYS a big no because sex is FREE. Not for everyone maybe but it is still not something anyone should ever pay for. Neither directly, nor in gifts, favours etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:52 PM
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That's not the point and it would be shallow to exclude women on that basis. The issue is if she has that preference only for you but she doesn't apply it to any man who she finds hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:17 AM
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The closest to the truth you will ever get. TRP got that right, that's why they emphasize so much to let go any girl who doesn't sleep with you by the second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:31 AM
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Because from the ONS guy she did not want nothing more than his body. No hidden agenda. For a long term guy she could have got into the relationship for any number of reasons and sexual attraction is more often than not not one of them. The "I have done my sexual exploration but I don't like doing that anymore" is a consequence of this very fact but it doesn't mean that specific sexual act wouldn't become enjoyable again with someone she truly likes (probably someone that she wouldn't consider s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:13 AM
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Why would you want to marry in first place though? In the past it might have been a necessary course of action because of the stigma of having sex and kids outside of wedlock, but these days what's the point? It only makes sense for the financially weaker party (women for the most part) to improve their livelihood. Women don't marry as much as before because there are less and less men around even considering marriage, and given most women now work they don't compromise on their standards. The m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 11:52 AM
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Nothing new will happen, simply things will follow the same direction and get gradually worse over time. We think it is hell on earth now, just wait and see in a few decades. What could change is the way nations address the problem. Currently it is ignored because the numbers of "checked out" men are still low. Should this grow significantly to the point the majority of men refuse commitment or are unable to enter a relationship, I foresee two potential directions: a return to more conservative …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 12:18 AM
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It is not "happening", it was always the case. If a woman is not attracted by a man at the start of the LTR (where sexual desires should be at their top) then obviously it's not gonna be a surprise. She knew since the beginning and she went ahead because of other selfish reasons. Marrying without sexual desire IS immoral. If you think it's not, would you go and tell your future husband before he puts a ring in your finger? Probably not, because then he wouldn't put a ring in your finger!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:10 PM
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The problem is not marrying with the idea that they are going to cheat, the problem is marrying even if you know you never feel like tearing his shirt apart and fuck him as there was no tomorrow. If you don't have that sexual desire not even at the start why would you even marry? If you marry for other reasons (money, having kids etc) then it is a manipulative choice looking for your interests only. The man could be replaced with any other man as he doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:59 PM
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All I can say is that do you have an incredible mind discipline to be able to mantain what you described over the long run. "Focus more on their pleasure" is just words when you talk about it, but in practice is sexual acts on someone body you would rather not even get close to. I think the wealth of the average man doesn't justify this, given the average man is not a millionaire. Also I cannot imagine what the reaction of such man would be if he read the words you wrote here. You asked before i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:51 PM
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It's not an imbalance between sexual desires it's more an imbalance between the attractiveness threshold for the two genders. Men are fine with their matchlikes, women are always aiming at the top men and only downgrade their standards when looking for a relationship. But in that case she's not looking for the one man, rather for one man. Any man who meets the criteria of being a good provider, husband, partner etc. You can see it as a job advert as companies don't look for a specific individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:30 PM
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In a way you are confirming the AF/BB theory by saying "I don't find most men attractive" so they need to compensate with something else. The relationship is nothing more than a financial contract. I appreciate your honesty, although hearing that as a man is incredibly demoralising. If those men you don't find attractive meet your providing requirements so that you would consider beneficial entering in a relationship with them, how would you treat the intimacy with such man? What I mean is: how …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:15 PM
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The mere fact that having everything financially split and both parties morally accountable makes you think dating men as "essentially pointless" is an answer in itself. You basically don't engage in relationships with men for the sake of the relationship rather only for what these man can provide you. Take that away and LTR with men become useless in your mind. The worst thing is that most women would probably agree. The second worst thing is that the attractive men who can sleep around without…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:22 PM
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Well it depends on what your perception about women is. If one thinks of all women as little flawless princesses, yes it might come to a shock to discover they are just individuals with flaws just like men. In my opinion it would be only a positive thing if men stopped idealising women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:40 PM
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Most men cannot and don't have the "messing around" phase. It's the root cause of the issue that is being debated. You won't see complaining the men who have always had success with the ladies, it's the others who do. And judging from the extent of the issue and all those articles "men don't commit", "where all the good men", "marriage figures declining" it is the utter vast majority of men who are left out otherwise we wouldn't be here talking about it, nor we would hear so often women complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:53 AM
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It is a result of significant imbalance in the number of relationships and sexual partners between women and average men. I've written this many times: there would be no problem with women being promiscous if men were also promiscous, but 80% of men can't. The majority of men have only a few experiences or none at all. When you choose to date one because you had already your fun you are choosing to date someone for which that "phase" of his life never truly started. They have just spent the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:43 AM
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Even if your perspective matches today reality I disagree on your solution. In my opinion the chance of getting into a long term relationship with someone in her early twenties are too slim to limit men to just that option. I would rather still consider LTRs with women over 25-26 years old as long as they don't involve marriage and kids. And no cohabitation until at least a year or two of dating. The key idea is not to avoid commitment (I believe a long term relationship is the only meaningful w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:14 PM
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I have been in situations where I paid for the date expenses because I knew she was a student or unemployed and I was happy to do it. I have been a student too and I rememeber what is like. But if I know she works and has a regular income it will always be Dutch because I date adults. Also I'm curious to understand what's the rationale behind the "man should be paying the whole thing" even if she works. Like what happens when they enter a relationship? My idea is that any couple would set up a j…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 01:16 AM
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If you want to prove financial stability ask him a bank statement, or more subtly about his job, or his family. How paying for a dinner proves that he is financially stable? It is ridiculous that you think men cannot afford your half (who do you even date??) rather than prefer to go Dutch as a matter of principle. Judging from what you write you sound very naive. Even this glorification of your education is childish. Do you honestly believe your Master makes you above the average population in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 12:56 AM
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Looks/popularity for young women looking for casual relationships/hookups. Wealth/maturity for older women looking for long term relationships, marriage, kids. Money is only one of the selection criteria and applies to women only in a specific phase of their lives. Simply put, young girls on night out going to a pub are going to look at the hot guys and could not care less about the rich men. From a logical point of view this makes perfect sense as it is rational that when you are looking for se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 11:49 PM
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Choosing between no marriage and prenups should be conceptually treated as choosing between a vasectomy and condoms. You can wear a condom and be safe from accidental reproduction (I believe 97-98% of times) OR you can just have a vasectomy, get yourself tested once a year and be on the safe side 100% of times. Likewise you can have a prenup and be confident it is going to be held most times OR you can just not marry and avoid the issue altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 11:28 PM
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Regardless of its pointless nature, the arguments against marriage are not merely financial. If you cheat on me, abuse me, don't respect me, stop loving me as a man I want to be able to get you completely out if my life in no more than 2-3 days. Healing will take longer, but practicalities shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:03 AM
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Because you as many women tend to believe that men not wanting to marry is a huge red flag as it means they are not looking for a long term monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:39 PM
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That's fair too. I mean you can't guarantee a man is not the wrong one even if you marry him, unless you consider any potential financial gain from a separation a way to "compensate" you for the time loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:21 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that you went through that. Nobody should.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:11 PM
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Not really, average looks are average for both genders, and average men are usually way more down to earth, rational and mature than their female counterparts. Your perception is "influenced" by the perspective of women who has been given validation since their teenager years. It is why average women are way more socially confident than average men and know how to get around, speak with people, fit in in almost every context without much effort. Men struggle because they have lacked such opportu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:59 PM
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Or he's not a gambler with his financial assets accumulated with his working. Sometimes we look too much into the subtext when the underlying motivations are actually very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:29 PM
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The rules are simple. It is just a matter of completely switching the AF/BB dynamics (which favour women) to opposite rules (which favour men). Non promiscuos women between 18-25 are relationship material. This doesn't mean they get a relationship straight away, they need to date you a couple of years, prove you get along together all right and she has life goals aligned with yours. I personally would consider cohabitation as the start of a relationship, others however would consider marriage (n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:58 PM
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I think this question has been asked over and over. It feels like it is being asked by women often for they hope to get the answer they would like, but it is very unlikely to happen unless a massive switch in men mentality is triggered. And the trigger to that can only general access to the dating sexual market, which we know won't happen anytime soon for average men. The majority of men won't even consider having a family with promiscous women. Women's choice is to either hide their past, as mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 10:57 AM
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Because one ATM is as good as another and children can't be reverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:37 AM
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Men are not in control of many things in the dating field but providing is definitely one of those for which they are. The simplest way to not be a provider is to not provide. Never marry, no financial communion, no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 01:33 AM
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It would make female selection standards even more evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 01:06 AM
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If she has dreamed of that since she was a child how come she has reached her thirties without having achieved it? We both know the answer. I will never feel sorry to manipulate back someone that wishes to manipulate me. It's not my attitude at fault, it's yours to assume only what you want is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:56 AM
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"Use her for sex". I don't use anyone for anything. If she agrees with having sex she gets sex too, what she doesn't get is a commitment. I'm not sure women always consider sex with average guys a one way transaction. I bet she would never have problems getting "used for sex" by Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:51 PM
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Average men cannot get casual sex with their matchlikes, it's virtually impossible. The only time I dated a girl with above average looks she was over 30 and was looking for marriage and kids. Average men can get casual sex only if they significantly date down their level, fat girls or ugly ones. That's not much of a choice. The argument here is: can average men have casual sex with average women? The answer is no because most average women consider casual sex only with attractive men. Sex is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:37 PM
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There is no point because evidence suggests otherwise. It's like saying skinny men can win fights against gym freaks. Sure, it could sometimes happen, but is it the common scenario? If it isn't the common scenario then there is no point in mentioning it. PPD is about genders not singularities. I don't doubt the bald man you mentioned exists, but how many there are like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:26 PM
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And you assume that's the common scenario because...being bald and with an average body is attractive? Not sure if you are a man or a woman, no way to tell online, but if you are a man you should stop being delusional and if you are a woman there is no point in pushing that narrative. The game is a natural game, because everyone likes beauty, and everyone can see through it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:17 PM
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Ah gotcha. Thank you for explaining. Well I have my method already as I explained above and doesn't involve expensive outgoings (Dutch everything) or paying for sex. Lies or the simple truth is the way to go in my opinion. Nobody should pay for sex or women's company. It only serves the female imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:07 PM
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Could you elaborate in plain English? Not familiar with all those acronyms :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:06 PM
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I don't think men in their 30s can easily become sugar daddies with hot young girls, unless they are very rich. I hear this a lot and it seems very naive to assume it. Like how would this work in practice? You take a screenshot of your bank account and put it in OLD app? Young women are of the same type of the older 30s women, which means they are looking for hot guys not providers. They will be looking for providers once they reach themselves the post wall age range. The strategy for men with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:04 PM
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Again, you are mixing the two things. I don't think men would have an issue with you sleeping with a hot dude years before (unless you make a habit of it and sleep around for years). It is an issue if you sleep with hot dudes while you are in that life phase when you trying to settle with a normal man who you deem as a potential LTR partner without also sleeping with such man. In that case you have a double standard: no rule for hot men, but rules for all the rest. This is what most women do in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:14 PM
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Hypothesis: Women let men who are LTR-suitable wait, not because they think those men are not as attractive as the guys who get casual sex. THIS IS A MYTH. A myth that can be debunked by simple use of the human eye. Who does get casual sex? Tall fit handsome face guys. Who does not get casual sex? You know who. Just watch what women do, not what they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:20 AM
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Your logic would make sense if this switch in behaviour was consistent on a timeline basis for both attractive men and normal men. It's not, the switch can and usually happens but for the attractive men she will still go "just this one time and then I'll stop...".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:13 AM
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An increasing majority of men left out of the sexual market place during their best years and an increasing number of men gradually gaining awareness and rejecting the commitments chores expected from the "good guys". Across all the things we keep discussing here AF/BB has been the main trigger. It has been revealed, then analysed, then failed to debunk it, then attempted to be justified, and all is left for men is to accept it, walk away, take advantage of it in later stages of life. We lack vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:58 AM
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Coffee date first date, no matter what. No exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:48 AM
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A man lives and learns lol. Now we discover that the men who get sex the first night out are the ones women don't like while the lucky ones are left to their lovely hands in the hope of future pricey starfish sweet love with newborn wives. Honest to god, make at least an effort to maintain a certain degree of logic in these discussions. At least, give it a try. If you women can't be honest in an anonymous Reddit discussing gender issues what kind of manipulation one can expect from you IRL? This…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:43 AM
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UK, maybe I'm biased because I'm a man and have had few experiences and all of them ending badly (I was rejected many times, I was cheated on a serious one and cheated on again in an early stages one, and ended another myself after two week because she was rude without any reason and in retrospect only looking for someone to wife her). Understanding female nature is complex so you might have a point. I do think I have learnt the common dynamics and things I can be on the lookout for. So they pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:00 PM
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If that was the case women would only have sex once they are ready to start a family. The reality is that they start while they are teenagers. Females will bed Chad because he makes them feel powerful and Chad himself is a token that they can show to other females. In their youth they are not thinking of marrying or having children. Not sure in which country you live but you are way outside the realm of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:32 PM
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You are not making any sense. Women can have sex with men for the pure sake of having sex with men. The only difference is that desire is only aimed to very attractive men, while the average men are unable to get sex without being "exploited" for other traits. In the first case sex is just sex, in the latter sex is a currency exchanged for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:24 PM
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Not necessarily, the two things are not mutually exclusive. You can be in a LTR and share your expenses. In the modern dating environment the best scenario for a man is to meet a girl in her early 20s, date 3-4 years while both consolidate their careers, then create a family. The scenario we have most commonly these days is girl sleeping around until late twenties/early thirties then switching to "looking for a LTR, marriage and kids". No man would ever engage in such a thing without a solid per…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:17 PM
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To some extent maybe (I'm not a RP) but most men in the average attractiveness value want a relationship with a girl who is not a whore, has a decent personality and is supportive for her man. That's it, there is nothing more to it. An argument can be made those men desire a LTR only because they are not attractive enough to sleep around (very likely true). But the issue here is: why non super hot women with average looks don't feel the same thing? You want to sleep with a male model, ok, do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:08 PM
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1) It's coming from an even greater number of women going for men way over their attractiveness level. A common mistake here is to think those women believe they are indeed hot and deserve a very attractive man. They DO NOT. They are perfectly aware they are fishing way above their level, but it's fine. "Getting used for sex" only applies if she slept with someone not so attractive for which she was willingly trading sex for relationship. Have you ever heard a girl complaining Chad "used" her, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:53 PM
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Well worded, but it's taboo to say this around here. One because you hurt the fragile ego of men not on the top 20%, two because you confront the hamster of every girl out there pretending she's not like all the rest of other girls going for the same type of guy. Gotta keep that "but if you had a personality..." narrative ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:29 PM
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I will need more context on this one. If you were arguing men can have abundance of hookers it's a different thing all together. OP was talking about abundance mentality in relation to non prostitute women. Abundance mentality for women you pay for doesn't make any sense and I'm personally contrary to paying for sex, either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:23 PM
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Let's be realistic, very few men have the option. Men have the option to steer clear from women whose only purpose is to exploit you and should exercise it. For women is different, they can literally set up a contest "Best guy wins me over" in literally 2 hours on any dating app. Unless they are very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:02 PM
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Reaching his 30s doesn't make a man more valuable, only more "exploitable". The increase in success is only a result of 30-something women now looking for that aspect and younger women looking to a older figure with more "life experience" and sugar daddy capabilities. Looks wise men prime is around 25yrs old, so no they don't get better after 30, only more of all-around asset. An argument could be made that reaching her thirties for a woman definitely makes her less valuable since men choose wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:51 PM
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There are many reasons why women under 25 are often the only women a man in his thirties should focus on and mostly involve the fact that you want to be with a woman at her prime and that women in their 30s/late 20s tend to approach that phase of their life where they are looking for marriage and kids in a relatively short time-frame. And if that's the case there is no telling is she's with you only because you make a good provider. With a woman in her early 20s, if she was with you during her y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:58 AM
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It wasn't a general statement that men accept everything or viceversa. What I meant is that men are expected to "comply" in the sense that they are expected to accept women choice of having fun with the bad boys when she's young and only settle for them when she failed to secure one. It is the reason any man who doesn't want commitment and/or kids is seen as the devil, simply because he doesn't serve female imperative. There is no doubt that men and women alike can behave pretty horribly to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:18 PM
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I was actually asking for your solution, or your thoughts on it. Mine is not existent because I simply don't have one. I think you confused me with the other user you were debating with. My opinion is that this "problem" cannot be solved given the looks disadvantage the majority of people will always have. In my previous comments I said the only utopian way to approach this would be if DNA engineering got to a level where we can get every child to have those traits that are commonly considered u…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 11:31 AM
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Don't you think they already put effort? Are men not able to find a relationship only because they are lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 11:21 AM
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I think everyone knows women can enjoy casual sex, why wouldn't they? What we are trying to address here is another thing: A) what happens if her standards to engage in casual sex/relationships are too high B) what is left to do for men that do not meet such standards Most women would answer A is not an issue, everyone has preferences, B is not their problem and "I'm sure they will eventually find the right person for them, maybe they should date down". Most men would answer A is an issue but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:41 AM
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Being "compared to other guys" will always result in a small subset of men winning against the majority of the other men in the same social context where they are in. And with the Internet and online dating the social context is so wide and easily accessible the range of men "winning" get even more narrow than IRL. If I had to compete for looks against 10 men, I would say in average I can only beat no more than 4-5 of them. If I had to compete for intelligence with 10 men I would be confident I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:18 AM
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Yes that's one of the known principles of Red Pill actually, the SMV of someone is always related to the context the person is in. The classic example is girl dating the popular dude in high school. Once she goes college/uni the relationship almost always ends. Why? Because the dude who was the big guns at high school starts from zero in the new context while someone else already covers that role. So yes it obviously works in the opposite direction too. If your options are more limited what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:53 AM
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Likely so because when left unchecked their hypergamy will always result in the selection of the top range of attractive men (why wouldn't they if there are options available should they fail to secure a highly valued man?). But the world is not brought forward only by attractive men, by definition a minority, it is brought forward by a mass of common men who, if not given something in return, will opt for individualism. It is not a problem now because we are in a learning phase and the numbers …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:30 AM
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I'm of a more cynical nature and I would say that, yes, it is impossible 100%, for the simple fact that you cannot change your looks and most people find attractive the same kind of common traits. The previous model of patriarchy didn't solve this either. Women were indirectly forced to settle since they didn't have the means to make a living on their own but they didn't like in most cases their husbands regardless. It was an acceptable deal from a male perspective since she didn't sleep around,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:11 AM
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It's not the same thing. Even if they "pay for it" they won't become the man she got her tingles going for when she was young. Nothing will ever change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:01 AM
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This is the problem in a nutshell. Men are expected to comply. Some users in this subreddit have theorized that the future will see greater taxation for single men and financial communion rules to loosen up even without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:55 AM
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I would argue it has nothing to do with being grossed out, unless someone is pursuing a virgin (good luck with that). In my opinion it is more the feeling of having missed out on your youth with few or no experiences at all. Sex is only a part of it but an adult outcasted from normal romantic interactions and with little or no relationship experiences is not going to be as mentally healthy as someone who has had those things. When a woman is finally ready to settle a lot of guys at her very age …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:23 AM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:13 AM
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No, as long as we stop caring about ugly women too not trying to pass "being fat" as "perfectly fine" and as long women don't lower their standards later on when they need financial stability, to create a family and/or giving birth. It's not helping her who would likely be unhappy with a man she's not attracted to and it's not helping the man either since he might romanticise something that exists only in his head and eventually results only in financial depletion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:06 AM
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That's the whole point. What you just wrote is 100% the harsh truth most people don't want to hear. As a man I don't argue with you being attracted to objectively gorgeous men (everyone likes beauty). I argue with you, and women in general, when you switch this around when you find out it doesn't work. Men are not disposable social security plans or inseminators.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:00 AM
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Most men you see around every day are fit. The same cannot be said for women. Also there's a difference between being skinny and a gym freak. Most men have reasonably strong arms, legs and well defined shoulders. Muscles are supposed to be functional. What you do in the gym is artificially increase your muscle mass for an effort you don't need since you don't spend your life lifting boulders. It's just crazy how many people get hooked into that crap and find themselves with so much unnecessary m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:49 PM
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Given I never ask directly for a girl N count (it is way more accurate to infer from her behaviour over some time), the way I see it is that the N count is like a stock price. In the stock market you try to avoid buying a stock at its peak. It is way more beneficial to find a promising stock with good potential and low "price". You can call whoring "sexual revolution", "liberation", "modernity" and so on, as you could call a cat "dog" all you like, yet don't expect it to bark anytime soon. Likew…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:23 AM
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Just imagine for a moment if TRP and general awareness of blue pill behaviours (to avoid them) grew at such a scale that the current society dynamics were replaced. What would happen? The answer is simple: female leverage would be gradually reduced over time. No more simps, no more nice guys doing favours, no more settling for post-epiphany promiscuos women, no more financial communion, no more giving kids when not feeling like it to let her fullfil her motherhood desires, no more chasing/valida…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:10 AM
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Not out of control because by definition there cannot be any control on hypergamy, otherwise they would have called it Nash Equilibrium. There is no soft hypergamy. Women were attracted to dominant attractive men in the 50s as they are today. There were however a couple of principles that made hypergamy difficult to realise. A) men didn't accept non virgin women for marriage therefore B) most women saved their virginity until marriage since C) they didn't have the means to make a living on their…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:16 AM
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Apologies for the direct question but, didn't you claim in another thread to be a sex worker? I am asking because even if you do have an high education (medicine, law, engineering and so on) practicing sex working doesn't make you neither a doctor, nor a lawyer, not an engineer in front of a man's eyes. If that's the case I'm sure many men who you would find suitable find you unsuitable because of your past or current profession (we see this kind of lying to yourself here often enough that it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:50 PM
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This is hardly an outbreak into modern society dynamics. It's common knowledge. It proves marriage is an outdated institution used only to transfer economic assets from men to women. It always has been, with the difference that in the past the other part of the deal was a woman who would take care of the household and kids. As that's not the case anymore why would anyone marry? You can have a LTR outside marriage, and maybe think five times before involving kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:32 PM
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Yes 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:31 AM
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So you wouldn't blame 16-yrs old girls for opening their OF accounts? Also, not familiar with OF, but isn't the content 18+?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:23 AM
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Same, I don't understand the negative side of it. If a person goes to another person to express their interest that's a positive thing regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:21 AM
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Yeah but adult men are not toddlers who can't understand the difference between fiction and reality. If you make women responsible for their behaviour you have to do the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:48 AM
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I argued that single individuals, both men and women, shouldn't be allowed to adopt a kid or conceive one for the mere selfish interest of becoming a parent. Kids are the most important building block of our future, not commodities to enrich someone's life. How many orphans have I adopted? None. I am not in a long term relationship, the thought of bringing someone to my life without a partner who would be the child's mother doesn't even cross my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:45 AM
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I highly doubt the modern woman is thinking of a Kenya orphan when she decides to be a mother. Becoming a mother is not a noble act, is a selfish one (a tickbox for most women) and as such it only follows that the route pursued is often artificial insemination not adoption. Also in case you haven't noticed families not single parents are often given preference when considering a child's adoption and for good reasons, the least of them the communion of finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:35 AM
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Ah I see. Yes I was mainly discussing sex working while in a relationship but to be honest it doesn't change things much even if it would be a past behaviour. I would be fine accepting a smaller pool of potential partners as I wouldn't accept a former sex worker for any serious relationship. I don't see that as an healthy choice and I would be worried to start anything serious with someone who did that. That's just me, but I think most men would share the sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:27 AM
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Yes, in general nobody needs someone who doesn't add anything to their life or actually only takes from it, male or female alike. The only thing we disagree on is the "having children on your own". In my opinion this shouldn't be allowed on a voluntary basis as having/adopting a child is not like having a pet and we all know how the upbringing with a single parent influences a kid (who can then will become a future citizen and maybe think again of adopting/having another kid on his/her own). Kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:21 AM
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Because normal people don't accept cheating and having your girlfriend/wife/mother of your children get naked and mimic sexual acts in front of a webcam while strangers jerk off in their rooms looking at her is not exactly the dream of a man. I mean it's one thing entering a LTR with someone you discover is a cheater, quite another with someone who does whoring for a living. I am even confused how this is a question in first place, unless you are arguing that men should not care about virtual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:51 AM
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This 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:45 AM
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Look as much as women on OnlyFans are to condemn so are the men following OF. If you give your hard earned money to a stranger showing her tits, you are probably a low IQ man anyway with likely mental issues. Also what exclusivity? The business model of OF itself is based on subscriptions, the very opposite of exclusivity. Property is exclusivity, shared leasing is not. No the real victims of this sad affair are the non-simping men who now have to vet for online whores every times they date some…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:38 AM
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There are two flaws in your reasoning. First, you assume girls consider it a form of entertainment rather than sex work. They don't, they know they are prostitutes, that's why almost none of them admits she is a OF, least to a potential partner. That's why they get so upset when their "beloved fans" record their videos or expose their identities. Second, you are ignoring the universal rules of any economic market: supply and demand. There is not enough demand (with the growth of anti-bluepill mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:33 AM
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No society can call itself civilised without financial abortion. And no, I do not mean defaulting to getting child support from the government if the father refuses to do the same. You go ahead with your pregnancy, it's fully your responsibility. If you can't guarantee the essentials to your kid then he/her should be taken away from you. It's a single powerful move that would solve many things: a) less single mothers around b) giving men a right to control reproduction (at least until we finally…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:16 AM
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I think you are giving way too much emphasis on this. The N count is just a selection metric not the ultimate source of truth men use to screen for commitment. You don't judge a woman because of her N count, you judge a woman because of her behaviours/intentions. Her N count is just one of the many things that can give her true self away more easily. Simply put, I can ask a woman what her N count is (pointless as other men have stated), but let's assume I do and she replies that it is three men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 11:46 PM
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1) Only to some extent. Looks are the selection criteria, personalities are "this one is a keeper" criteria. 2) I would hope not. As a man I know I wouldn't if I was in a happy relationship with a girl, but obviously I can't speak for the whole gender. Personally I think this is a lost cause and you shouldn't focus on that at all. Love involves risk, only not dating can guarantee you 100% assurance you will never be cheated on. 3) That's not the reality. You are describing more the natural femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:16 PM
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The fact that men continue to chase women is proof enough that men want women in their lives. It's not dislike, it's distrust. You cannot trust what a woman says only what a woman does. And if you judge women from their actions the reality is pretty grim. You can think everyone is awesome unless proven otherwise, or you can think everyone is bad unless proven otherwise. When it comes to women I always choose the second one. This doesn't mean you have to be rude or anything, it's just a reminder …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:56 AM
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Single mothers Women without financial indipendence Kids Promiscuous behaviour Marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:10 AM
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You can make up those stories, they are not true most of the times. Girls in their 30s have a N count two/three times larger than the average man. Really few men have high N count (three digit N count or close). For the rest of men their N count will be under 5, and for the bottom men the count is just zero. The guys who usually vet you are the ones in the middle. I doubt the guys at the top have any incentive to deviate from their "fuck them all" strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:50 PM
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Same here. I have marriage and financial communion on my deal-breaker list too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:22 PM
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And how long those relationships last? Is the man happy in those LTRs? If other men have made a mistake there is no reason for future men to keep making the same mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:14 PM
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There are lesser and lesser women deserving of commitment. It would be a bit of a generalisation to say it comes down only to her N count for the mere fact she slept with multiple men (afaik neither penises nor vaginas get spoiled if you use them multiple times). The N count is often linked to more significant flaws: - lack of self control - entitlement attitude for having been "desired" by multiple men in her youth, in turn leading to a greater hypergamy - they don't usually make good mothers; …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:09 PM
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In western society women practice prostitution on a voluntary basis. It's a career choice usually preferred to a 9-5 job. Your son wouldn't be supporting anything if not the woman taking his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:02 AM
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Sounds like an excellent advise to end up on some #MeToo post. The difference between harassment and "a confident dude" is that the latter would also get a swipe right in online dating apps. If average men try to approach random girls in classic locations (pubs etc.) the best it can happen to them is rejection, or more likely public shaming, or worse. The only social venue where they can get away with this real life approach is potentially social clubs or friend circles where you know a girl fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:58 AM
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What? For real? The whole western society is poisoned by very promiscuous women. The average count by the time they reach their 30s is usually above their age. We have just stopped shaming them for that (not openly at least) given the pushback from media. But sluts they remain. Plenty here as in the US. If anything traditional women are the absolute minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:42 AM
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The fact that you wrote that "you pay for your own" is indicative enough of how you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:14 AM
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Let's not forget the size of a man's dick promptly changes after a relationship ends. Hammers can become pinkies in less than a fortnight ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:08 AM
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Yeah that's terrible. I can only imagine what you go through. I think you should stay home sweetie. Safer that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:57 AM
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He said "most men" hence the majority not a "small subset of men". You are biased by the men that are in your radar ignoring the majority of those who are not because they don't meet your threshold. Promiscuity is great for those at the top of attractiveness, wealth and status. Not so much for the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 01:15 AM
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For a lot of men lying about their intentions of engaging in a relationship is their only way of getting sex. On average only men in the top range of attractiveness can have casual hookups. It sucks but I don't blame them. The female "trauma" of "being used" (somehow sex is always described as a one-way transaction only beneficial to men, some sort of torture practice against ladies) is not nearly as bad as the misery of a forever sexless outcasted man. Especially because they don't mind "being …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:59 AM
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I think it was meant as views on sex in the "traditional society". Sex workers don't change the perception of sex per se (if anything they broadcast it to a broader extent and audience), it's more the consequences of it that do influence society dynamics. If in the past the norm was man + woman + commitment = family, it is obvious the more women choose sex work as a way of making a living the more they set themselves apart from the dating scene. I assume the trend in normalisation of sex work we…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:52 AM
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The default female response is always "I'm sure this happens" or "I'm sure there are girls like that" but then all of them consistently and without exception claim they are unlike those women. I highly recommend watching Alexander Grace channel on YouTube where he interviews women on the streets about TRP concepts. It's the closest to truth you will ever hear from a woman's mouth (until they deliver the final clause "but I'm not like that!").
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:44 PM
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I don't think it's men thinking sex is something women must be convinced to give up. On the contrary it's women considering it an owned asset. How? By considering sex a one-way transaction. When you hear a girl complaining about how she was abused by her latest date who fucked her and ghosted her soon after, what is being implied is that sex was some sort of utility being passed on. She gave the man her "asset" and the man failed to pay the price she had set for it (more hookups, commitment, lux…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:06 AM
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