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Lol. They always believe some magically chad is going to come save them eventually. That’s why they will never settle for you. Why would you want them to settle? You're buying an old bag.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:29 PM
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It was incredibly easy for her to understand her fertility and decide to look for a man instead of launching her YouTube career. She just refused to do it. It puts into question if she actually believes what she says when she preaches submission and reliance on a man while living the feminist lifestyle. Why are you so upset with her? Is it some kind of envy that she's famous? ​ What i mentioned is helpful for attempting to maintain your appearance as you age. Youd think since she acknowledges ho…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 01:26 PM
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i mean in the times of actual ''tradness'' you would be betabuxxing her and having starfish sex with her These are the times of actual tradness. https://youtu.be/3SFkrgW2i8U This is the time of betabuxing. https://youtu.be/sgtiPOk83Ek it's called modernity. Then came post modernity. https://youtu.be/CmRih_VtVAs it's when modernity gets turned upside down. I come from the time of 'actual tradness'. Imagine that I'm a visitor from 1850. ​ instead of fantasizing about getting jailbaits here What wo…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:26 PM
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pre-wall, i think most guys outside 15-26 range look pretty bad outsid of celebrities, (no i'm not a coper who thinks 30 year old women look better than 18 year old ones either) I've had this attitude from Zoomer girls before. Either you're negging or you have issues with men. Which is it? Normal women don't have problems with being attracted to men. I'm not Fabio but I have a woman that's on me as soon as she gets a chance. ​ abroad the women are even more betabuux focused and have higher rates…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 12:03 PM
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no one, the ''tradwaifu'' thing is a cope for autistic incels who didn't get to popular fuck jb's at skool when they were jb's so they cope with muh submissive braindead 12 year old waifus baking me pies schtick. I have a tradwife. She's in the kitchen baking as I type this. I'm probably not the only one. Younger people don't know what a tradwife is. It's not on the table for them. ​ i do see wokes dying, but i don't really see based trad times coming back in it's place, if anything, college att…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:40 AM
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for what else reason a young attractive woman would get together with an old, dysgenic men? most men over 30 are unattractive and doubly so if they are actually searching up incel forums like this. i don't care if guys choose to be betabux but they should be honest about it mostly being betabux. Are you a post wall woman? The question you should ask is why we would want them. We can go abroad and get better ass for less. We don't need to betabux. If the young women don't like us we'll find other…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:36 AM
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Who do you want to see in her place? Give examples.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:25 AM
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pearlythingz is a grifter with a BBC fetish, she doesn't even believe half of the shit she says, she spends her time scamming younger girls and black men instead of marrying young and having a family. All right. She gets married and starts a family. Who is going to take her place? She resonates with young women. That's what matters. She's not perfect and that's what makes her viable. Loser women want someone they can related to.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:22 AM
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idk, sugar daddying is prostitution with extra steps, incels search for muh pure attraction That's for old guys. I don't get it. Guys my age don't get it. I don't know what to call whatever we'll end up doing with the Zoomers but it's not going to be sugar daddy.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:12 AM
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milennial men aren't rich enough to be betabux for zoomers Zoomers want to be fed and browse tiktok all day. They're not expensive. I could probably house 3 Zoomers in my attic. Us older Millennial men aren't into betabux anyway. We grew up with that women make their own money. It's the younger guys that are okay with paying in that way.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 11:08 AM
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I got 2 interviews in the last 2 days. Both times desperate sounding women calling me. One of them said something about role play. What is going on out there? Wagecucks chime in.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 08:24 AM
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First off bro a girl can say no to anal or a threesome I mean that’s just basic consent. Agreed. I will walk out the moment she does. ​ Also idk who these women are but I won’t deny there are bad people that probabaly do plan to just lock up a marriage but I don’t think most women are like that atleast the ones I know I mean a whole life with someone u don’t like why not go for a life with someone u do like and want to have sex with as a women. I'm not saying they're bad people. I'm saying smart…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 06:46 AM
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Join me in the rabbit role. It's more fun.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:35 AM
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Simps can’t enable this trashy and masculine behavior forever. When will women start returning to classic femininity? Women turn on the femininity act when they want something. Right now gen Z women don't want to work therefore they're becoming more feminine. Women are not a single entity. The ones larping as men are Millennials. Now Millennials and Zoomer girls will be fighting over men's resources. My money is on the Zoomers. [You hags are about to get cucked by tiktok zombies]
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:37 AM
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First idk man you ain’t that old 40 seems pretty good to me. For me when I was having these insecurity issues I just told myself hey I love this girl but if she wants to cheat she’s going to and that will help me decide if this is the woman for me if I keep preventing her from doing it then it’s not showing me at all if she’s trust worthy which is important trait to me. I don't have insecurities over a 40 year old. There is nowhere for her to go. I'm saying that telling her what to do explicitly…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:27 AM
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No it’s emotional abuse to cheat on your wife Is it emotional abuse if a woman refuses to have sex with her husband? ​ and threaten to leave her if she doesn’t adhere to your standards Is it emotional abuse if a woman demands that a man gets off the xbox and gets a job? This is how you play the leverage game in a feminist culture. You started it so suck it up.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:12 AM
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Feminists are done. No once cares anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:09 AM
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Ultimately i want her and others like her to practice what they preach. Right now she's living the feminist career woman lifestyle while telling other women to not do what she's currently doing. That doesn't make her wrong about the facts. Women that do the trad lifestyle tend to get into it while very young. It's hard to switch track. ​ She, by her own ideological admission, wastes a lot of time working when she could be investing the time into taking better care of her skin and hair, perhaps e…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 04:04 AM
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So not a whore = Mennonite?! It's pretty hard to be a whore if she never leaves the home.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 03:27 AM
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Alright again bro u should be able to have trust with ur partner it seems u got trust issues man which is normal not a shot towards u even I’ve had trust issues when I’ve had girlfriends but I got over it cause I know that if my partner wants to cheat there gonna cheat trying to prevent them from doing it doesn’t make the fact she wants to cheat disappear. It's merely an example. My wife is 40. I'm not going to be jealous over an old woman. I'm saying you can easily eliminate the problem. You're…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:29 PM
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Either she's a slut or she's not.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:23 PM
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I’m literally a stay at home mom to a 7 pound dog, but go off. Then he is paying for you to be home with a small dog? ​ but to sleep with other people hell the fuck no, that would be him asking for a death wish. Guys want variety. Why is that wrong? ​ It wouldn’t make him a good husband to sleep around, so why would I be a good wife back lmao Because a good wife should be supportive of her husband's dreams.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:17 PM
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Its more than fair to criticize someone for not practicing what they preach regardless of whether theyre wrong or right. What do you want her to do? She's trying to help other women avoid the mistakes she made. ​ Ultimately if she really believes that women are happiest with a husband and kids shed be busting her ass finding a man instead of wasting time on youtube. Can't she do both? Maybe other women will learn from her. ​ She is currently wasting her youth complaining about women instead of f…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:07 PM
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Well yea u could ask ur wife to not cheat I mean we all don’t want our partner to cheat we shouldn’t need some power ranking to stop them from cheating that should be done because they don’t want to. You could order her to not leave the home or not have a phone. Cheating risk is now 0%. This is so much easier than tiptoeing around the issue. She has a phone, he checks it when she's away. It's creepy to me. ​ Divorce is always tough especially when money is such a big factor but that’s how divorc…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:58 PM
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It's now 'emotional abuse' to -- cook meals -- stay slim -- not be a bitch This used to be considered a normal wife.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:37 PM
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I never want to lose my husband but if he tried any of the shit you listed I’d leave him Do you think it's fair to your husband that I can bang other women and he can't? I don't work. I don't do chores. I'm annoying. Your husband is better than me but he doesn't get the same privileges. That's because I have leverage in my marriage and your husband doesn't. ​ and absolutely make his life a living hell bc I’m petty like that. Do you think that makes you a good wife? ​ I feel so bad for your wife …
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:30 PM
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My point is that Pearl, at her age, can still quit her job and become a sahm of she wanted to. Her age isnt a negative factor yet for either fertility or finding a guy who may not be a perfect trad (virgin raised religious) but she could easily find a reformed christian man to wife her up. I can't say. I'm not in the market. I'm sure there are things that I don't know. ​ The thing is that she, despite preaching about the wall and how "men dont really care about your money" insists on prioritizin…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:19 PM
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Does this apply to real life as well? Because apps are not real life.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:00 PM
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Alright well when we throw kids in the mix it gets tricky and some relationships can and have bounced back from cheating it’s a tough one and would take a lot of talking and working things out for that. With children things do change it’s not just ur life it’s the kids too so u can still leave or decide to work something out and fix the relationship. ​ Maybe the guy could tell the woman to not bang the mailman and they wouldn't have to make these difficult choices? If he had leverage she might d…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:59 PM
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Its incredibly rare to find any man or woman who wants the (trad life with 6 kids) life. If a woman thinks women shouldn't vote she's most likely looking for the trad package. That means she wants to be home with the kids. Probably have more kids than average. Probably there's some religious attendance involved. You can't get that on a whim obviously. ​ She could still find someone with a low body count and settle down, quit her job and have a couple kids. The woman is pushing 30. She spent her …
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:46 PM
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Pearl is 26 - 27. Geriatric pregnancy starts at 35. That's plenty of time to find a man, give up her career and pop out a few kids. She's just not doing it. The kind of man that wants a homemaker with 6 kids got married at 18. To a virgin. It's too late for her.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:33 PM
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I don’t really have any relevant but we can do cheating since that’s a popular one personally I would most likely just end it if cheating occurred I don’t have much patience for something like that. I'm 20 years in. I have 4 kids. Should I walk out on her for cheating and start over? I totally would. But a lot of guys would hesitate. Because there's a cost to leaving. How much would child support be for 4 kids in the US? Probably thousands of dollars per year. That's the price for not staying wi…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:29 PM
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Well I wouldn’t ever want to force a woman or anyone to do what I want. First let’s choose one of the options you listed or I could just answer how I’d tackle all of em whichever u choose Pick whatever you feel is more relevant to you.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:16 PM
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Its fascinating how these women who advocate for women going back to the kitchen and not voting refuse to live by the rules they advocate for. They came to the realization too late and now they can't get that deal. The smart women got in early and are keeping their mouths shut about it. There are very few men that are willing to play the trad game.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:14 PM
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You can't force the woman to do what you want. Sexless marriage for example. Weight gain. Refusal to cook. Cheating. Money issues.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:12 PM
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yes.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:07 PM
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Fair enough. Do you think that at some point in the next couple of decades you might disagree on something?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:56 PM
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Ight first off I mean sex happens when anyone says so technically it’s all consent but yea mostly the women decides why cause dudes usually wanna get down a lil more. Let's say it's about anal. The guy wants to put in her butt she says no. It doesn't happen for him. Maybe he wants the FFM. What guy doesn't want 2 chicks? If she says no it doesn't happen. Whatever sexual desires the guy has it's 100% up to the woman is he gets it. Now imagine paying for this. ​ But if u hop into a marriage and se…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:54 PM
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Such a fucking turnoff, and I feel like because women are sheep and can’t think for themselves they all follow the same bullshit trends and every girl under 30 no matter how hot or prissy is compelled to do this in multiple videos. How many guys are drooling over Mennonite women? If guys stop watching it women will stop doing it. Also tiktok rots your brain.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:38 PM
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For one looks and sex are important in a relationship but it shouldn’t represent everything I do agree the ending of sex will put a damp in a relationship but that’s where u work on why this issue is happening. Don't give me the runaround on this. Sex in heterosexual relationships happens when the woman says so. She controls the sex. She also controls her looks. As a man I have no recourse. Sure we can 'talk about it' or 'work on our issues' but at the end of the day the woman alone decides if a…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:34 PM
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U know when ur in a relationship it’s working to provide for you your partner and family doesn’t mean ur partner can’t provide too. I personally don’t view women as property I think their also human beings who have freedom to not be owned by anyone I mean it’s 2023 surely we can do better than that kind of backwards thinking Let's say I marry a woman. I buy a home and have 2 kids. Afterwards she gets fat and stops having sex with me. What recourse do I have? Leave her? I lose my assets and the k…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:16 PM
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In principle I feel she should be my property. But then I would probably have to work for a living and I don't want to do that. I guess it depends on what society at large would look like. I don't want a society where I have to provide for a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 03:29 PM
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No I'm not trolling.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 03:12 PM
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Dude if ur trolling then alright then it’s not funny but whatever. If ur serious then bro honestly go get a life man this is kinda sad I'm a married man with kids. Are you guys Zoomers?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 03:08 PM
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I’m not understanding what’s wrong with that? It depends on which side you're on. ​ If women getting rights means they don’t want to get married maybe they never really wanted to. I don't think they did. My point is the beta guys that want women to have rights are playing themselves. When women get rights they don't want the low status guys. I cringe when I see it. It's like a guy in the friendzone that doesn't get the hint. ​ Why would you want to marry or have sex with someone who fundamentall…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 01:54 PM
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My work day is done. I'm going to play vidya. Hope you enjoyed it. Please upvote for more quality shitposting.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:47 PM
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Anglosphere countries like the UK and US height is the most important factor. In Asian I don't think it's as bad since women are shorter. Are you sure it's not a neg?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:46 PM
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I didn't get a lot of matches on tinder either. Real life is different.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:45 PM
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Stop using apps. It's not your height I promise.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:44 PM
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I'm 5'3. I never had issues with women. Maybe in the US it's like that.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:34 PM
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I still don't see your point. :/
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:33 PM
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If men were doing this to women would you not expect women to be afraid of being featured in such groups? Defamation is a thing. Or are you one of those male feminist simps who thinks it won't ever happen to you? I mean, it probably won't...... lol If I got featured I would assume they wanted to bang me. Same for the women if they were featured. I would never date this type of trashy women though.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:24 PM
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You're saying it's because of height? Must be an American thing.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:23 PM
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They had sex with their wives. Point is they don't get sex or wives like they used to. Allegedly. This coincides with women getting more freedom.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:20 PM
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Thank you for explaining!
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:18 PM
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I'm a high status man among traditional minded women. I don't get your point.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:17 PM
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I thought they are holding out for guys with boats.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:15 PM
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Try putting > before the text you want to quote.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:14 PM
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I don't think this is relevant. I have money. I have a near $100,000 car and my own place. Tbh I don't dress like I have money. I wear the usual jeans and a shirt. The women probably don't know I have money. But women have never been interested in me for my money regardless. Money is low on the dating priority list now. Height and face are more important than money. A woman would sooner date a 6ft handsome Chad who works at McDonald's than a nerdy shy manlet making $100k in a STEM field. That's …
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:12 PM
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voting is a human right and it shouldnt be taken away from a group just because of situations like this, Women are going to vote to create situations like this. Are you cool with that?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:08 PM
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My point is that low status men used to get ass. Do you disagree?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:07 PM
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I know you're actually a cuck that wants men to simp for women.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:05 PM
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Why would I want a wife? I already have one of those. Not looking for another one.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:03 PM
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Got ass? You are aware hetero buttsex was illegal in the past, right? Low status men got begrudging vaginal starfishing doled out at long intervals, not a woman who lusted after him. I don't think the data backs that up. Married women back then had more sex. ​ You're ignoring all those male politicians responsible for writing the law (including No-Fault Divorce, which existed back in Roman times and was brought into America first by Governor Ronald Reagan) and all those male judges writing the c…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 12:01 PM
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Is Chad always going to bang your gf?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:57 AM
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Bro stop. I get hating feminism, it's completely rational. But wanting a specific gender/social group to NOT is just neonazi bullshit. You're cool with Chad banging your gf then?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:54 AM
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I'm a Tradchad. I think everyone should stay in their lane. I don't need to bang some guy's ugly gf.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:40 AM
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It depends on who you are. If you are a beta male it's good for you. If you are a woman it's also good for you. If you are a Chad cad it's bad.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:28 AM
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The guy will be poor.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:15 AM
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Women's vote decided every US election since the 1960s. If only men voted in the US you would have only republican governments.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:10 AM
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All right then. Enjoy the cucking dude.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:09 AM
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Look like this. https://youtu.be/v3kCJEeiJoQ
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 10:01 AM
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On top of that women just have their heads buried in the sand choosing to continue being oblivious while the bulk of the young male experience (dating or anywhere else in life) is facing massive amounts of rejection, lying, gaslighting, denial, or indifference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcflBBGKhE First you make the money. Then you get the power [social status]. And then you get the woman. Without money and status you are nothing to them.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 09:49 AM
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The survey also finds that infidelity is a disquietingly common experience, especially for women. Nearly half of women say that a partner or spouse has been unfaithful, including more than six in 10 black women. Half of women are being cucked. ​ Eighty-one percent of women, compared to 56 percent of men, say they would be less likely to date someone who did not have a job. ​ Nearly nine in 10 (89 percent) college-educated women and 66 percent of men with a college education say they would be les…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 09:41 AM
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Why not? I'm bored.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 09:28 AM
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We finally have a woman speaking out against the vote and you're not upvoting? What kind of men are you anyway?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 09:27 AM
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women get this insecure while being in a relationship, which should be enough on it's own, coupled with amount of validation they do get on average pretty much says it all If guy's don't find them attractive they don't get paid.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:23 AM
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so what leads to this inane belief that they're not enough and that their bodies are ugly? Is their partners devotion really that fleeting? Are women just not pleased with the partner they did get with? Or is their constant need for attention that overwhelming? It means 'it's not fair that rich men want hot women!' They don't care about Joe Shmoe's beauty standards. They care about Leo Dicaprio's.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 07:20 AM
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I'm banned from there. But I'll give you the answer here. Money. Women want your dollars. Not you. They will put up with you in order to get to the dollars. It's like getting an escort but with additional bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:39 AM
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Even if you go to femcel websites they all talk about how they get laid and relationships constantly just not with the men they want 🤣 Femcel websites? Maybe stop being on websites all day. If you hang around weird people you will become weird yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:19 AM
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He’s not trying to get a date with you bro He'd be like a god in India. He'd have 100 concubines. Now he's been reduced to an embarrassing jester. Why do Anglos disrespect men this way?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:14 AM
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Recognizing women are only truly attracted to the top percentage of men. That's probably true. But it's their problem more than ours. ​ These types of groups would never exist if there was an equal distribution of attractiveness. Notice how these groups never exist for men. What kind of woman hangs on a board for 'dating'? Trash and leftovers.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:05 AM
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Practicing christian yes amen. If you keep being this way some born-again slut will take advantage of you.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:59 AM
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What exactly is the blackpill?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:57 AM
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I don't understand the controversy. Is it that women are gossiping? That they date the same men? That they backtalk men they have been with in the past? Are you guys afraid of being featured in these groups?
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:46 AM
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Women entered a predominantly male space and immediately began objectifying and sexualizing themselves, drawing as much attention to themselves as possible. Then blame men for it when they inevitably hate themselves for degrading themselves for a quick buck, as they should. But instead of accountability it's men's fault, and inevitably women destroy the space because they simply cannot help but sexualize themselves. If they tried to be smart we wouldn't care. They're selling what we want. ​ They…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:22 AM
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Those exceptions being women who are or were economically dependent on a man, women who live in countries where their rights nor freedoms arent respected, women who were with ugly guys, women who had no other option, women who were with guys who had a good reputation, women who were with guys with low self esteem,, women who inmediatly enforced their boundaries with all guys who tried to cross them and women who are mentally ill. Pretty much all women then. ​ Other than those cases, any woman wh…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 04:02 AM
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You absolutely LOVE it when hot men use you for sex. You love getting to act like a hot slut with hot men and get hot sex. There are no hot men. Women are not having hot sex. As I understand it they are mainly prostituting for food aka 'dating'. They were always doing this only it wasn't out in the open like today.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 08:57 PM
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Let me take a guess, you’re single? Married. ​ Or dead bedroom perhaps? I'm married to a porn whore. :/ ​ Well my emotionally available man gets to fuck me however he pleases and I love every minute of it. My simp wife pays my bills and hires me escorts.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 06:47 PM
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Oh because there certainly aren't websites and apps that make it very easy to make fake conversations. Alright. I admit that I faked the conversation using an app. I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you, Nancy Drew!
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 06:35 PM
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What feminists mean when they say masculinty ought to evolve = The emotionally available, sensitive gentle, supportive partner who's still independent and self reliant. and of course a feminist ally. I could go on but you get the picture. Can you guys stop taking women seriously? Repeat after me 'that's very nice darling, now assume the position'. She can think about feminism while you put in her ass.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:23 PM
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It's more of a hobby.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:03 PM
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Painful to watch.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 03:52 PM
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No woman is going to say she banged uncle Earl in his delivery truck to her husband. Everyone is going to talk about how it was true love and so forth.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 02:08 PM
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Before you accuse me of lying. https://postimg.cc/zyxRFSGG
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 02:05 PM
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Oh virginity certificate guy! Howdy ma'am. ​ Who definitely married a virgin who had no experience at anything but also apparently she offered to just be your FWB and then you fell into a relationship. She was dating up so of course. She wasn't expecting me to be her boyfriend. ​ I missed you dude. You always have such crazy stories. It gets better. She texted the escort and asked if she sees couples. The girl [being a Zoomer] asks her why? They're not very smart. :/ Anyway the girl offers my wi…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:55 PM
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Not at all. I bang escorts.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:45 PM
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My wife was a virgin. I would never have trusted her if she wasn't.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:44 PM
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False been with my husband 16 years, made me cum 3 times last night. If you invest in learning your partner’s desires and they orgasm over and over, they won’t lose interest, I promise. The average woman stops having sexual desire once the relationship is secured.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:43 PM
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I think she felt insecure about the other womens' tits because they have fake tits and she has flat tits. She felt pretty cucked because I fucked her last also. But other than that she was a bit disappointed with the other girls. She thought they were too passive. [she's talking to a girl right now trying to set up another 3way]
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:39 PM
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I've been married for 20 years. :D
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 01:21 PM
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It's not aspirational. There's no high status men, no luxury, no fun. Only crazy old women with blue hair.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 09:15 AM
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Then who cares? They're not going to convince anyone anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 09:12 AM
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How? Feminists are ugly women that want high status men. They know they'll get cucked too.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 09:04 AM
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Why Women Are Losing Interest In Sex After A Year ​ Are the results from a recent BMJ Open study really that surprising? A survey of 6,669 British women and 4,839 British men who had at least one sexual partner in the previous year found that 34.2% of the women and 15% of the men reported lacking interest in sex. So much for the belief that every relationship is perfect all the time.Cynthia A. Graham from the University of Southampton, Catherine H. Mercer, Clare Tanton, Kyle G. Jones and Anne M.…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:51 AM
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The fucking wife is just EYE FUCKING him. And smiling every time she talks to him. NEVER BREAKS EYE CONTACT. Who is she eye fucking? The husband or the waitress/waiter?
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:18 AM
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Did Older People Do Better? When the people in the study were questioned for the first time, the youngest were in their teens and the oldest were 41. Were the older coupled people better protected from the erosion of life satisfaction that typically occurred as romantic relationships progressed? They were not. In fact, the opposite was true. Over the course of the first partnership, the older people became more dissatisfied with their lives than the younger people did. Over the course of the stu…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:11 AM
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Full disclosure of what, a most likely unfulfilling sexual experience that will only make him doubt himself? Of all the things she is probably hiding from the current guy. I hope you realize that women hide things from their past. If I dumped my wife and she met a new guy. Do you think she would tell him about all the degenerate things she's done for me? No chance. Because she doesn't want to do those things with a different guy. Your future wife will have done degenerate things for a previous g…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:05 AM
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But it's totally cool for you to get some, huh? Sex increases a man's value.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:57 AM
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The study you cited surveyed women 25 and under. Which i believe because more relationships end than last long term. Do you have anything proving married women mostly start to lose interest in their husbands in a similar time frame? It's not the time frame. It's relationship security. I can find the studies later. Basically when women feel they have the man locked down they stop wanting to have sex with him.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:54 AM
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What I don’t know is what you think my current BF could possibly learn about me from a kid who knew me 23 years ago that he doesn’t already know. Women often withhold things from their boyfriends. That's why it pays off for guys to ask the previous guys. It could be things she did with previous guys that she refuses to do with the current guy. Or what type of girl she was when was with the previous guys.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:50 AM
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How is it that "if no laws are being broken it's all good" what about like, morals? I was 15 when I met my now wife. She was 16. We have a very successful marriage. If there had been a 10 year age gap we would still have a successful marriage. By your logic we shouldn't have been together in the scenario because morals. ​ A 15 year old is a child, why would you even wanna date one? I wouldn't date any 15 year old only because of age. To answer your question though it's because of virginity and b…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:44 AM
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What's the stats on men? They keep the same level of sexual interest throughout their lives. The big revelation in these studies is that relationship security removes women's interest in sex.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:33 AM
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Citation needed [https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/women-get-bored-sex-long-term-relationships/582736/] ​ Two oft-cited German longitudinal studies, published in 2002 and 2006, show female desire dropping dramatically over 90 months, while men’s holds relatively steady. (Tellingly, women who didn’t live with their partners were spared this amusement-park-ride-like drop—perhaps because they were making an end run around overfamiliarity.) And a Finnish seven-year study of more than…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:21 PM
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And most women lie about the quality of their sexual encounters. If casual sex is so shitty, why do you women keep having it? Answer: Because you like it, because it's fun, because it feels good, and because decent sex with a Chad who won't commit is a fuckton better than a relationship with beta bux. It's because they try to date up. That's all there is to it. ​ Of course she had a few prior boyfriends who knew what they were doing. You all have. It's just that you all lie about it. It's someth…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:12 PM
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Unless youre high school sweethearts chances are she has a few exes under her belt. The vast majority of the time, the relationship ended for a good reason. Women also lose interest in sex after 2-3 years in a relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:09 PM
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What good would it serve my current boyfriend to compare himself to the kid I dated when I was a literal kid? I feel like he deserves full disclosure before entering a serious committment. It might be a good idea for your bf to meet the guy who took your virginity. Maybe the guy could tell your boyfriend how it happened.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:05 PM
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What’s so bad about premarital sex? It makes men feel that women have lower value. If my wife had not been a virgin I would never have stayed married to her for 20 years. She could have been the exact same person. But 1 premarital sex partner would have ruined the marriage for me. If you want women to end up divorced by all means tell them to sleep around.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 09:56 PM
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You're not a virgin but you insist you wife must be lol. Yeah when you judge someone on a behavior that you yourself don't follow we have a word for that, hypocrisy, and people generally look down on that. Women that insist that men go to war without going to war themselves are hypocrites. Men and women bring different things to the table. Asking a man to pay sticker price for a used woman is insulting and shameless. ​ People who insist on wanting virgin when women when they're not virgins are m…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 09:54 PM
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And then a little further into this fascinating conversation,2 redditors mentioned that highschool girls fit this description because their not fat and the sex won’t be boring with girls that age and how age is just a number and how the age of consent in their countries were 15 & 16 respectively. I believe I was party to that discussion. My argument was that high school girls are fat and gross. At least in my high school. Therefore it's a bad deal for men. ​ Legality aside if your in your 20s, 3…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 09:36 PM
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Cheating is betraying your wife and kids for the sake of an orgasm. Normal men are not going to stick to the same woman for 50 years. That's crazy. ​ And no woman wants to compete. She just says “ugh thank God I don’t have to have sex for a while” She's joining in so I can compare them together. I'm not letting her off easy.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 07:08 PM
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Nope it’s being a man who is driven by his sexual urges over loyalty to his wife and kids. Men like sex. Is this news to you? As long as you don't leave the woman it's no big deal. Also it forces the woman to compete sexually.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:51 PM
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Brazilian girl is trying to get me to pay 400 euros per day if I fly her in. How much should I counter offer? 100?
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:42 PM
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She can stay home without a guy. Sounds less depressing than having a husband who uses hookers That's being a normal man. What is the big deal?
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:40 PM
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You clearly are LARPing and just have a wife who lets you use hookers. It's not a big deal here. European women are not hung up on cheating.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:30 PM
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So how can you say you don’t have a car. Everything you say doesn’t add up. I live in Europe. We have public transport here. It's faster and cheaper than owning a car. She's offering to buy me a car. I'm not sure I want to bother. We don't have car culture here like in the US.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:25 PM
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Normal men don’t expect their wife’s to be selfless and serve They have warped ideas of marriage then. No wonder it doesn't work out.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:23 PM
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You’ve said multiple times that you aren’t providing her life for her. She is the one providing the money. But less than 10% of guys are going to have 4 kids with her. And then let her stay home. That's a 1% deal in Europe.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:22 PM
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She WAS a brilliant wife, and he didn’t appreciate what he had. Welcome to men. What did she expect? To be a wife is to be selfless and serve. ​ Now, He’s 43, fat, doesn’t clear up after himself, depression, blames everything on everyone else. He’s not going to move on to anybody That's too bad. Let's hope the guy gets a grip. ​ She on the other hand will get another dude no problem, but she’s been scarred enough to know never to be dependent or move in with them Normal men don't want old single…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:14 PM
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Most men do this because they don’t have multi millionaire wives who gift them luxury cars as a proposal (then suddenly you say you don’t have a car). Men expect their wives to work when they need the money. They could keep their wives home if they wanted to. I don't want to deal with having a car. ​ How is constantly using escorts not sexual perversions? It's normal sexual behavior to have sex with hot babes. ​ How is financially depending on your wife not broke? I could get a job if I wanted t…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:09 PM
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Not have a husband who bangs escorts and wants her to be underweight. Men like to sleep with young hot women. This isn't news to anyone. Think of it as charity. By accepting this she is helping young women that can't pay rent. ​ Her money and family are why she doesn’t have to work at a grocery store. You have nothing to do with it I am the boss. ​ You literally said she gave you a fancy car as a proposal for you to marry her. Sounds like you couldn’t keep the story straight. No she bought me a …
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:01 PM
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Your post makes it 100 times worse. The fact some loser guy got to fuck her while you have to spend time effort and money to get a crumb of pussy. You should never spend time, effort and money to get sex. That's what sex workers are for. Well you will spend money but it's cheaper in the long run. If the woman doesn't offer sex by the second meet ghost her. Even after sex don't spend money on her. ​ Cuck behavior to date a non virgin I married a virgin. I have never regretted it. The older I get …
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:45 PM
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Less than 1% of women are willing to tolerate what she tolerates (assuming it isn’t fan fiction) and yet you’re ungrateful. Less than 1% of women are willing to stay home with 4 kids? Without me she wouldn't have the life she has. She knows it and she's grateful. It is time for you to reconcile yourself with the Patriarchy.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:39 PM
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(Specially because actual poor vulnerable women arent in the places all foreigners frequent) Where might one find the poor vulnerable women? Asking for a friend.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:34 PM
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Here's what they're not telling you.--they've had at least 1 one night stand because the man was so incredibly attractive they couldn't help themselves. They just wanted to fuck the guy, so they did, and they didn't even care if they never saw him again. And the sex was pretty good.--they've had some really, really, REALLY good sex with men before you - and they WILL compare the sex they have with you to the sex they had with those other men--another man she was really super in love with smashed…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:44 PM
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A "shocking" reality for U.S. moms: Half have no retirement savings ​ About half of mothers across the U.S. have zero dollars in retirement savings, compared with roughly one-third of fathers who are unable to put money away for their later years, according to a recent analysis from The Century Foundation, which examined data from the Financial Health Network, ​ Women are independent. Never forget that.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:22 PM
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Hell yea bro, I bet women are banging down your door to get at you. I'm at a point where women don't add any value to my life. If I want ass I can rent it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:29 PM
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Just had an HR Karen call and interrupt my gaming session. Said she wanted to schedule a phone interview about a legal support job I applied to. I told her to call back in 2 hours. Now back to the Wild West. Currently playing Red Dead Redemption 2 on my Xbox.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:00 AM
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Watch 3:08 to 4:23. Straight from the horse's mouth. She basically says that she doesn't want any woman to have passport bros and that they should leave all women alone. Western women can only get away with their antics if men have no options. If options show up they're done. Because they have nothing to offer.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 08:20 AM
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But it’s better than never getting a break, she’s also now only clearing up after 2 people instead of 3. Less work, Less hassle, no adult man sitting on his arse calling her names while she’s literally cleaning up after him Instead she will be alone. The guy will move on to a younger woman that will be a better wife.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 08:13 AM
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You are not the reason your wife doesn’t work at a grocery store. You’ve repeated many times that she and her family financially provide for you. She has money, and that is why she doesn’t have to work at a grocery store. As evidenced by the narrative you push, you didn’t save her from the grocery store. Her money and her family did. Most men order their wives to work. I have an acquaintance his wife works as a nurse. I could order my wife to work at the grocery store. I am generous in not doing…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 07:07 AM
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So basically all you do is make big decisions, weigh her, and use hookers. Sounds like a really shitty deal for her. You are not accounting for the payoff here. I make it my job to keep her 100 lbs. That's a big win for a woman. I can either bang escorts once in a while and stay with her. Or I can leave her first and then bang escorts anyway. ​ thank your lucky stars you found someone who is willing to put up with all that. What would she do without me? I give her a stable life. Commitment, fami…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:57 AM
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Nope. I’m saying that instead of being grateful and appreciating her you just discuss dominating her. If you aren’t LARPing. Less than 10% of men are willing to do what I do. She needs to be grateful to me. Why would I waste my time dominating a 40 year old housekeeper? Are you crazy? The other day she found me a slim Brazilian girl. She's only 50 euros an hour. I'd like to dominate her ass for an hour. After that I have lots of Xbox games to catch up on. I don't have to play games with women.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:46 AM
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No they wouldn’t bro. They work at a grocery store. Not having to do that is a huge step up in quality of life. ​ Read a romance novel or literotica. Women want to be treated like queens and provided for. Even in 50 shades of gray the dude was rich and obsessed with her. Guys that treat women like queens are low status men that don't have money or status. Getting provided for it over. Women will be working until they die.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:37 AM
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But she can leave and keep the 4 kids. And she can keep slim on her own. And she can go on tinder. I get it. It's a neg. You're playing it wrong. You need to stroke my ego and tell me she doesn't deserve me. I might fall for that. I'm not used to being negged by women. It's alien to me.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:34 AM
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If she is the one supporting you, she doesn’t need you to spend more time with the kids. I make the big decisions and she makes the small decisions. That's the way it has always worked. ​ And if a woman truly loves a man, she won’t be cool with him using hookers. How old are you?
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:20 AM
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If a woman loves a man, she doesn’t want to be his concubine. Love is for teenagers. Take a look at the women working at your local grocery store. No man is giving those women anything. They would love to be the handmaids in the story.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:12 AM
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The 60+ women I've slept with, a lifetime of close female friends, the testimony of other prolific men, the various writings, podcasts, etc. authored by women. Whatever helps you cope.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:51 AM
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Dude people watch horror movies all the time and no horror movie fan wants to go through what horror movie characters go through. The horror here is to be the concubine of a rich tradchad. If there was no fertility crisis in the story the women would be working at a donut shop.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:41 AM
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Doesn’t your wife financially support you and do all the housework and cooking and cleaning and have you weigh her every day to make sure she is under 100 lbs and take care of 4 kids on her own and pick out sex workers for you who are younger and more attractive? How is that easier than being single? It lets her focus on chores and children. Because there is a man to make the big decisions for her. What's the big deal with the escorts? You all keep mentioning it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:38 AM
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Ah yes and when people wear guy fawkes masks to protests they all want to be guy fawkes. That movie is not cringy softcore porn.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:33 AM
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Much less work and suffering. No one to bang her and keep her slim. Also won't get 4 children.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:32 AM
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The guys are rich sugar daddies that live in mansions. Are you serious? If this was real life there would be a line of women around the block.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:33 PM
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Imagine that she's a sugar baby from 100 years ago. Then does it make sense what it's about? This is the Playboy mansion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ueeiPmgJE This is the handmaid mansion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PZjMexQAKo In this version ugly girls get to live at the Playboy mansion because reasons.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:25 PM
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You can do that without dressing up as the literal bang-maid from a cuck novel. We're reaching levels of cringe that shouldn't be possible.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:22 PM
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The book is literally about an ugly woman fucking another woman's husband in front of her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgdqwIizADA
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:14 PM
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You should watch the series or read the book if you want to discuss it. This TV show got 1000s of women around the world to dress up as handmaids. I hope you realize they didn't do it because they are against the idea.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:12 PM
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You haven’t read the story, you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s rather ironic. The original story is a about an ugly woman cucking a trad Stacey. It's cope. The TV show has nothing to do with the story. They go on for season after season.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:05 PM
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“If you dress as a serial killer for a Halloween party, you sure want to kill people!” I will try to speak the language of gen Z. The TV show is about rich sugar daddies that are married but also have sugar babies living with them. The sugar babies have to wear a special uniform to show their status. When women dress up in this uniform they signal that they would like that job. I know they don't have surgeries. But before surgeries were invented sugar babies would wear hats and stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:03 PM
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37 on Tuesday. You're my age and you still think women want to bang. I'm shocked bro. Where did you get that idea from? ​ No, they don't say it to the guys. They say it about the guys to their friends. Watch what they do not what they say.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:58 PM
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This might seem shocking but men don't want to control women. We only want to sleep with them and then we're good. I know a few single mothers. She is not going to enjoy the experience in the long run.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:52 PM
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Women do want it. How old are you? ​ Women often sayit out loud. "He looks like he's bad in bed. He dances like he's bad in bed. He kisses like he's bad in bed." Any of those is an instant dealbreaker. If you don't know this, you aren't hanging out with women. That's a neg. If you had more experience you would know that women always hide what they're really into.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:39 PM
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These are women my age. I was there when they read Handmaid's Tale back in high school. These women aspire to be handmaids. I'm sorry if that bursts your bubble.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:35 PM
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Here they've even put on the muzzles. https://www.al.com/resizer/ZYUlIYfUHFKtbQmGsO-yjK0mWoc=/800x0/smart/advancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/image.al.com/home/bama-media/width600/img/news_mobile_impact/photo/handmaids2jpg-66f389a9d7e98c65.jpg If you larp as the characters from a smut novel you've clearly lost the plot. If us guys dressed up as characters from a campy porno we'd get mocked indefinitely.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:31 PM
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We’ll since she just left her husband because he wasn’t pulling his weight with their kid I suspect she wants nothing to do with it It's not going to be any easier doing it on her own. She will come around soon enough.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:27 PM
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I don't read smut for women. That's disgusting. For women in their 30s that are broke and alone or working while having a family the Patriarchy looks like a sweet deal right around now.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:25 PM
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Then you're too young to know the context. This is millennial women trying to impress us with how they are willing to be handmaidens. They're looking to get into the Patriarchy now that they're old and broke. They're buying the outfit and walking around in it. [keep dreaming hags!]
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 08:20 PM
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She's a renown author in the first place. How old are you?
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 08:09 PM
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Eh...that's because the author of the original story is a known advocate for women's rights. She's a Boomer that doesn't know the subtext. It's a dogwhistle for chicks that are into these things. ​ Even then. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I knew that I was helping my sisters suffering. Good luck with the sisters then.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:22 PM
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As I've said "the Auntie" was working against it too. Also it's a known phenomenon when there are some of the oppressed who helped the oppressors for some crumbs of favor. That's because they can't show women that voluntarily support the Patriarchy. ​ Answering your other question - there's nothing that would make me support this kind of environment. Even if you get a better position than other women?
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:11 PM
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These women suffer too under the regime of the story and I think it was shown later on that “the Auntie” was working against the regime too. If I remember that correctly. Even if they suffer they support the regime anyway that's the point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l-P_uCePKc It's about them putting the Patriarchy ahead of themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:00 PM
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It's like renting a gf then? How much does it cost you? If you care to share that is.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:33 PM
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How are sugar babies different from escorts? Are those girls also Canadian or do you see foreigners?
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:19 PM
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I went to high school with bookworms. It was bad. One of my friends would fly to Amsterdam now and then to get ass.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:15 PM
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There's no patriarchy side there, Here's the Patriarchy side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PZjMexQAKo It's a woman that's happy to serve the Patriarchy. Not everyone is a lunatic feminist.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:11 PM
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Yes they have sex with usally other people their own age. The girls arent handed out as a resource like the conversation we’re having up above. Handed out to grown adult men. That would be a tough sell considering how fat they are. ​ Personally I don’t care what the age of consent laws says once you leave high school and are 19+ why you are trying to have sex with a 15 year old? Why do women try to have sex with older men? Men bang younger and women bang older.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:02 PM
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I was in high school 2 decades ago. The girls were fat and disgusting. Maybe you went to a good high school.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:58 PM
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You do know that high school GIRLS not women but GIRLS range from like 14-18. Why are bringing up little girls in a conversation about sex????? Most people start having sex in high school. At least in Northern Europe. Age of consent is 15 where I live.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:41 PM
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Most are not fat in highschool. And the sex isn't boring if she's actually attracted to you Hahahah. Are you serious? You can look up the numbers for weight for women of all ages. They are fat.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:40 PM
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Dude, their not getting off on it. Not at all. They think it's terrible. That's why they keep watching it season after season. ​ I do have a friend that watches it and she did almost each episode makes her cry At which point do think your friend was converted to the Patriarchy? Inquiring minds want to know.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:37 PM
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Yeah.. I don’t see many men or woman going for that. Women love this show. What do you mean? They wouldn't be watching if it wasn't titillating.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:29 PM
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They're not going to be hot and you will be stuck with them. I'm all for being traditional. But we need to be careful what we wish for here.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:47 PM
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Because if you let women live freely all they do is give sex to the same men while the majority of men are left out. But the women are fat and the sex is boring.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:44 PM
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It's bdsm porn for chicks. Only they're dressed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUQYZOWsdCg
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:39 PM
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I mean agree with the Patriarchy side.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 03:32 PM
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They read here. It plants the idea in their minds.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 03:23 PM
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They will find new ways to simp. They're not going to stop simping because they watch tiktok.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:12 AM
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​False dichotomy. It is possible for a man to neither want a slut nor a tradwife. What's the third option? ​ We live in a world where marital rape is illegal. Believe me, even tradwives will "not tonight, dear" their men sometimes. That's a power play. If she knows she'll get dumped on the spot she won't play that game. ​ Tradwives are not cheap. Seriously, what makes you think a tradwife won't want material pleasures in her life? You don't give her anything and she gets used to it. Who cares wh…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 10:06 AM
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Apart from the fact many men don't actually want a tradwife, Do they want to marry a slut instead? ​ if a tradwife marries an incel the bedroom will be dead and they will both grow to resent each other and either cheating or divorce becomes inevitable. She's supposed to put out whenever the guy wants. That's the deal. Tradwife is code for 'do the chores and split your legs'. ​ That is not positive or healthy for either the man or the woman. He gets fiscally exploited in exchange for pity-sex onc…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 09:42 AM
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Your story keeps changing. I thought she was paying all your expenses and letting you just be like a high end gigolo trophy husband. I've been with her for 20 years. Things change now and then. There was a time when I was in college and she was home. Then she worked and I was home. Then she did college and I was still home. Now we're both home. She has always paid for me because I've never worked. Her family is well off she doesn't need to work to support me.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:48 AM
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Their go to is to convince you that there are some unicorn women who don't go for these types. Damn near all women want the same things in men. Why do you think there are guys who have approached thousands of women yet still find themselves virgins in their mid 30s? There are. Most women that do this are either stupid or trashy. Frequently both. If we're going to harp on women here we should do it for their failure to be traditional wives. That applies to all women across the board and can't be …
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:35 AM
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They do if you're good at sex. No homo. But have you seen guys have sex? We wouldn't want it either if we were women. ​ In fact, the ability to seem like the kind of guy who would be good at sex (without being crass about it) is a very powerful and often undiscussed quality in men. You think they look at us and wonder if we are good at sex? 0.1% of women. ​ All that matters is that you are attracted to the person you're sleeping with. Whether or not anyone in the world would consider the person …
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:19 AM
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Is this new place for retarded fanfics?💀 I think that was pretty good. Upvote it.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:09 AM
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Doesn’t your wife work and you stay home She did after I finished college. She hasn't worked for 10 years now. But she worked at a workplace with majority women and it was close to our home. ​ Weak clapback I'm proud of that one.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 06:07 AM
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Let’s say that you’re a 35 year old woman and you work until 3 am at a local restaurant. When walking through the parking structure to and from your job and apartment at night, you bring a whistle, a knife, pepper spray, and have a safety necklace with a button to call 911 in the event of an emergency. A dude here said that this is misandry and anti-men. Should she discard safety measures to avoid having men online say she is misandrist? If she got married and stayed home she wouldn't have to wa…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:06 AM
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You pay a guy who tells you how ugly and fucked up your face is using science That's the strangest thing I've ever heard. But thank you! :D
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:45 AM
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What is the solution for this? What do you want to get out of casual sex?
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:40 AM
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Then get off this sub it's not for you. The end. My apologies. I won't talk to you anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 07:49 PM
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A) This is not true. Lots of women want casual sex and are open about it these days. B) Even if it were true, neither of these things constitute "cost." Dude be reasonable. Women get nothing out of it sexually. If you go below your looks level you're being taken advantage of. You don't get a hot woman but the woman gets sex with a hotter guy. If the woman wants a relationship, and you don't, you're most likely going below your looks level. Or if she's hot you will probably get played. Based on w…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 07:48 PM
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Nah just curious why you post this nonsense here. It's not really that kind of sub. I'm sure you're curious. But I'm a married man. Let it go.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 07:11 PM
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My comment wasn't a solicitation to hear your fictional life story that you change in every post. You sound bitter.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 05:33 PM
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I thought you were done with marriage. I got married 20 years ago. It was a different time. We didn't have social media. Women weren't as crazy. They were more respectful. Getting with a woman was chill. I would never do that today. Ask any guy that was there. Dealing with women wasn't nasty and unpleasant like today.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:56 PM
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However I'm not sure I totally understand the specific situation of how casual sex leads to her being able to enjoy his lifestyle or extract a man's resources unless she maybe gets pregnant or does some other shady stuff or if it goes from casual sex to more of a real relationship. The guy likes the sex or the attention. Therefore he decides to make her a gf, maybe even a wife. All most women have to do is look hot and not be a bitch. A guy will take a liking to them and pay their way. He doesn'…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:23 PM
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Huh? You do realize a guy isn't obligated to give her anything in exchange for sex. Technically he's not. Many men don't, I'm sure. But if the girl is hot and plays nice many guys fall for it. Next thing they know they have a gf that they're paying for. Let's be honest a lot of us have a type. If a woman matched our type we would keep her around. That's where the danger is. For the woman the cost is 0. But if she can play nice for a bit she might get a big payout on way or another. ​ If it's tra…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 04:18 PM
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So you work for her, not she works for you. I see at she takes care of me. Not that she has leverage over me.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:43 PM
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Sounds like a really loving relationship Having clear rules doesn't make it less loving. My wife would never respect me if I was a wimp.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:32 PM
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Aren’t you married to a woman you weigh every day to make sure she stays under 100 lbs Yes. ​ but somehow also want to marry a virgin sex worker from another country? No. I'm done with marriage. When I say that it's a hypothetical. If I was single and marriage was on the table then I would want a thin virgin. Me and every other guy on the planet. ​ Bro do you understand that a 20 year old in poverty is not being a sex worker for fun 99.99999% of the time? She’s doing it for survival. I'm banned …
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:28 PM
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Dude I think you’re LARPing because you’re always talking about your skinny wife and third world sex workers. What do you want me to say?
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:26 PM
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If she leaves how will you survive? I'll get some other woman to take care of me. ​ Don’t you completely financially depend on her? Yes but I trust her.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 03:22 PM
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So you don't help out your mother at home? I don't live with my mother. Chores are women's work in my culture. ​ The only reason for a man to not help out is I'd the woman is SAH otherwise if you're both working out of the house you should both work in the house too, I am the boss. She works for me. If she can't manage on her own she's not a good wife. How will she raise my children if she can't run the home? ​ otherwise if she's doing all the work at home and balancing a full time job you don't…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 02:30 PM
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What are your opinions on marriage? Too risky from a legal standpoint. I got lucky myself but I wouldn't advice anyone else to try it.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 02:15 PM
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I'm not sure what all the pills mean. But bluepill simps are always going to be the majority. That's how we got here in the first place. The bluepill did not create simps. It's the simps themselves that create the bluepill. If you remove bluepill ideology these guys will come up with some new way to simp for women. Because that's their mating strategy. Low status guys become bluepill simps to get women. Removing the bluepill will not change their social status.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 12:28 PM
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But it depends, having casual sex favours men more than women because they have higher sex drive and many don't want to commit. You mean they want free sex? It's never free. The guy is either going below his looks level or she wants a relationship. If she can trick the guy into a relationship the cost is far higher than he would have paid for an escort. If she can't trick him he's banged a fat or ugly woman for free. That's a loss. ​ But overall in terms of dating market it doesn't really favour…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 11:15 AM
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What is this face rating?
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:46 AM
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My guy I am a woman who knows women. Many women. Not all women think sex = possible in for a relationship. Women can, and do, enjoy one of sexual encounters OR a string of no-strings-attached sex with someone without wanting a relationship. Your hypothesis relies on all women thinking and feeling the same about casual sex. Which is unrealistic and also untrue. I'm married to a woman that likes to bang. As in would pay money to bang. Because of this I've had some pretty exotic experiences. That m…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:32 AM
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Casual sex is not a chance to share in his lifestyle though? It's the woman's chance to convince the guy to keep her around. It's an in. ​ Many women see casual sex as just that - casual. Not leading to anything greater. I think that's something women say to not scare off the guy. That's how I got reeled in. She told me we could just have sex and I didn't need to be her boyfriend. Now we've been married for 20 years. ​ In which case both parties (ideally) are getting what they signed up for - go…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 08:34 AM
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What do I do? ​ Tell her you're going away for along time. Holidays, work, visiting relatives. Then ghost her. Hopefully she will forget about you.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 08:17 AM
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​ And the red pill male’s response is to say “well I do things around the house too” and list off a bunch of stuff that are generally left to professionals (or better off done by professionals) or that most men don’t even know how to do. Not a red pill guy but I don't lift a finger. If I had to do chores I would rather live with my mother. If the woman lived alone she would have to do all the chores herself. I don't think that should change because she lives with a man. My opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 07:54 AM
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You would rather be with a woman who is young, submissive, feminine, fertile, and attractive (high SMV), but don’t offer anything in exchange for her high SMV. A beautiful 23 year old woman isn’t going to marry a broke 30 year old man with anger issues and a slurry of mental health problems who refuses to do housework but wants his wife to work full time. Y’all could go with a fat and ugly 43 year old woman who will tolerate your problems to feel younger but you are too hypergamous. Stay in your…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 07:37 AM
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Who's going to tell him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:23 PM
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I got married at 21 as a nonvirgin and have never done sex work. Would that make me a bad girl or a good girl? Also nobody should be getting married at 16. That is not the age of majority just about anywhere. How long have you been married?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:20 PM
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It's your life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2FP77IIdE8
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:12 PM
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Yes. Some girls like to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:03 PM
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Got me there Nancy Drew!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:57 PM
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A man and a woman being friends? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:55 PM
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20yo women from poorer country may agree to be with you for your money. How does it feel, buying a woman? Honestly? It turns me on. It's much more fun that with regular women. No trolling. The best times I've had have been with strippers. They're better at entertaining. ​ You can do it in any other country too, with some. The poorer the easier it is, usually, because the can be so desperate that they have to accept. I don't trust desperate women. I like party girls that want to have a good time.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:50 PM
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wtf does this even mean ? Nobody I know does this I feel like we all living in different type of women The woman decides what home they live in, what car they drive, what holiday they go on. It goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:41 PM
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We’re very different, the difference being that the young women in Colombia are entertaining you to get money/a visa. Do you really think they’re serious about you? Please be fr😭😭 Hello there. Are you a Zoomer?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:39 PM
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I didn't think of that. I feel creeped out now. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:15 PM
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I approve of this trend. More Zoomer girls need to become bimboz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHmXEtEJgEU Young ladies! Copy this woman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCeXqw2pMcs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:08 PM
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Stop being friends with women that you are not banging. It's a beta move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:26 AM
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Thought of the day. Why do teachers hit on dads? We already have kids. Are they hoping to become side chicks? Inquiring minds want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:23 AM
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You should see the other guys. They want to bang and skedaddle without having to take any responsibility. At least with us good girls can get a family. I'm sorry you had to find out this way. Blame the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:05 AM
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Good girls are for marriage and bad girls are for fun. Good girls get married at 16-18 as virgins. Bad girls have premarital sex and work as sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:52 AM
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Willing to share the country?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:51 AM
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I also want to clarify that i don't support cheating, but i support the "telling her the truth and explaining to her that u will fuck other women, while you're dating but u will stay emotionally loyal to her" because in my opinion if she agrees to your parameters off a one side opened relationship there is nothing immoral about this. I don't agree with his. I want her to compete with the other women in who can please me the best. If she disappoints me I will revoke privileges. If you tell her th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:40 AM
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Absolute bullshit. Not to mention that is litterallly contradictory for men: we want sex,yet by saying that sex is lowering women's value,you litterallly create imaginary obstacles that reduce your chance of having sex I'm not interested in sleeping with average women. I want a top tier woman or I would rather bang my wife. When a woman has sex with me she gets a shot at my lifestyle. It's a benefit for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:34 AM
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Not me personally. But I know 4 guys that married gold diggers and got ripped off. 2 of them did it several times because once was not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:28 AM
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Lets's say a woman makes 50k. Let's say her disposable income is 10k. She meets a man that makes 25k. His disposable income is 5k. If she can spend his money, or get him to spend money on her, her total disposable income goes from 10k to 15k. That's a 50% increase with no corresponding increase in work on her part. That means she gets a 50% raise in exchange for sleeping with a guy once a week. It's a sweet deal even if the guy makes half what she makes. Now imagine the greed of women that ask f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:26 AM
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You’re messaging 20-somethings from other, poorer countries. You’re likely doing that because, at 40, you can’t score 20-somethings where you live. It’s not really comparable to what OP is stating. Young women are the same everywhere. They consume the same media. A 20 something in the West is not different from one in Colombia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:58 AM
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If they can spend your money they have doubled their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:55 AM
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Negative. He needs to raise his standards. As short guys we sometimes attract women that think we don't have options. 'He's short therefore he will take anything'. They think we will pay more to compensate for being short. When you go after hot women they know you're a guy that has other options lined up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:52 AM
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It's different in non-Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:47 AM
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If you actually believe what you wrote, and you are not a 17 yo trying to be edgy, you need to seek therapy to get to terms with your insecurities. No, the average 20yo who wants to date is not fighting against the 35 yo millionaire because they literally don’t have the same hunting territory, social circles etc. Hello. Are you old? I talk to 20 somethings on discord and I'm 40. Guys their age can't compete with me. Not that I'm competing for women but the difference in value is huge. I have per…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:37 AM
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They're only interested in the money. You need to shop around for the best value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:23 AM
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It's more efficient. I don't want to waste time talking to women to have sex with them. When you pay them you don't have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:57 AM
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How else am I supposed to get what I want?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:52 AM
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I like 2 girls at the same time. How many women are going to agree to that? I also want them to be thin or fit. Breast implants are a plus. In American speak I want 2 cheerleaders. Paying for that experience gives me an advantage with women. No woman is out of my league. I have the quiet confidence that I've had better and I can get better again if I feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:36 AM
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Your dad sounds based. You should listen to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:30 AM
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You think class is something more then an income bracket. Yes. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:14 AM
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Being able to afford surgeries does not make them upper middle class. It makes them trash that can afford surgeries. Upper middle class is the management class. It's corporate board members, executives, regional managers. Their children go to good schools. They golf, sail, ski, play tennis, and hang out in their own social group. The preppy or slightly preppy kids. Crop tops, tights, and surgeries. Dude. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:03 AM
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That's not upper middle class. That's trash. Do you know what upper middle class means? Upper middle class women don't get surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:46 AM
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Short women want tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:32 AM
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Sometimes guys want to some ass. We've all been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:25 AM
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I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you post a picture of what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:23 AM
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I have a daughter too. Women don't have an interest porn. They watch romantic movies. A woman is not going to sit home and watch Woodman instead of getting a husband. Or hold out for Johnny Sins instead of marrying an architect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:15 AM
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Have you met these women? They are insufferable. Please post a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:12 AM
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That's not good looks to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:09 AM
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High value in women is good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:05 AM
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There is never 1 she really wants to sleep with. We are not that important to them. Especially if you aren’t doing anything for her. If she likes a guy then she really likes him. I've had that with a few women. They really wanted me for some reason and didn't care about anything else. ​ And it doesn’t matter how you slice it. No man can out weigh the amount of value a woman can attract. If a woman is attractive enough to attract say, Leonardo DiCaprio, she can attract his friends, business men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:55 PM
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Yes. She has more access to sex then any man she wants to have sex with. There are 1000 men she can have sex with but doesn't want to. There are maybe 5 she can imagine having sex with. And there is 1 that she really wants to sleep with. When it comes to men that she really wants to bang she has fewer options than a man. ​ For every 1 high value woman, there’s atleast 1000 dudes. Multiple who are high value, who want her. Hahaha. Not even close. For every 4 high value women [Staceys] there is 1 …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:42 PM
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Saying someone sucks is bed isn't a comparison. She said 'I compared and it sucks'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:36 PM
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A lot of the women have cheated on their husbands. One got pregnant with her neighbor. He promised to leave his wife for her but was never heard from again. She did get divorced though. One woman slept around until she was ready to settle down. Had a child. Then left the guy and got involved with a bum. The bum dumped her when he was tired of her. She is now trying to invest in fillers. One woman is actively trying to find a richer husband to trade up to. In her 50s. Yeah. Another is trying to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:30 PM
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No it doesn’t. Women will always have more access to sex then any man, Not to men she actually wants to have sex with. ​ and thy will also have more access to more high value men than any man has access to high value women. She can be used for sex by high value men. But it's not what women want. ​ Women will sleep with a man because she wants him. Not because he’s able to have sex Some women want a man sexually. Some use sex to get commitment. It's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:17 PM
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Seems like folks here really think women compare and contrast sex partners. My Mother in law talked about how her current husband sucks in bed but she doesn't tell him to not hurt his feelings. Her and his ex wife bonded over how he thinks he's a great lover but has no idea what he's doing. Women compare. I am privy to many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:09 PM
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It looks tryhard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:07 PM
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Sex does not make a man more valuable It creates competition among women. If one woman is sleeping with me then the other woman has to top that somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:51 PM
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Some of us prefer quality over quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:42 PM
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When they get married. I don't want them to develop an interest in trashy women. Porn can cause you to miss out on a good spouse because you're blinded by a fantasy. ​ Man. 3 sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:36 PM
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Sex raises a man's value and lowers a woman's value. The man was accepted by women as an attractive prospect. The woman was rejected by men as inadequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:06 PM
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Women use their looks to buy the men they want. That means hot women go out and get a man that meets their standards. Women that have had casual sex have tried to buy a man but been rejected for not being good enough. Either in looks or in the bedroom. If she wasn't good enough for 5 other guys why would she be good enough for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:56 PM
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Sure, you are free to search for a virgin BUT you shouldn't expect her to be 100% normal. I'm not normal either. It's overrated anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:56 PM
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To ask for money in exchange for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:53 PM
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Framing yourself as 'the customer' implies that you see women as the property of men/passive non-sentient objects be picked up if valuable/dropped if not. Nice exaggeration. I'm buying a package of services. The thin gf experience housekeeping services personal chef That doesn't mean I see the woman as an object. I simply need these jobs done.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:13 PM
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Women feel the same way; if you acknowledged women as humans, rather than merely the chattel of men, designed to help, please and praise, regardless of her own wants/needs/dreams, you would know that. The reality is that I can get women to be my maids. Many women are happy to live a simple life. Look hot, do some chores, no need to get up early for work. Therefore I don't need to deal with women that want to pursue their own dreams. ​ Looking at your other responses, you seem to be a troll/provo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:06 PM
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The Coolidge effect is a biological phenomenon seen in animals, whereby males exhibit renewed sexual interest whenever a new female is introduced, even after sex with prior but still available sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:00 PM
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Sure it does! And to hear men tell it, it''s a lot easier for women! It's hot for us because of the Coolidge effect. Women don't have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:53 PM
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Because other countries have unlimited amounts of single women. It will force the local women to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:36 PM
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That's very nice of you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:33 PM
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This is astounding to me. I would like to have a discussion on this. What do you think the percentage is in the US? Is it that much better over here? Can't say. Don't live in the US. ​ Why are so many young men being left out of dating completely? Young women are holding out for a better deal. ​ What do you think the social ramifications are of all these perpetually single men going forward? Lots of cat ladies. Men can always go abroad to find a wife if they really want to. I mean a Japanese man…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:21 PM
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Alas, he is a PC supremacist. I too was a PC Lord until my kids got me into Xbox. You should get one for your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:11 PM
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You're right. She should dump what's his name, then she should put on her tightest, shortest dress, go to the club, have a few drinks, and find herself a couple of hot dudes to rail her. It doesn't work the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:09 PM
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Your husband and I should play Xbox together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:02 PM
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not trying to diss, but how are you 40 with 0 work experience? No problem I don't take it personally. My wife's family pays her bills. My wife prefers to have me around all day. There's never been a need for me to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:59 PM
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I'm too old, I'm 40. Also not comfy. I'd like a desk job or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:51 PM
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I'm thinking of getting a job and working ironically. Can I get hired with 0 work experience? I already wrote a fake CV since I was bored today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:43 PM
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Do you have an example more or less? Sure. When I met my wife all the women in her family worked or had worked. All the women in my family had been home. She had never seen a woman be home. The idea was foreign to her. I brought her around my family and showed her 'look here are women that are home and cooking'. For most women this is the problem. They have never seen women that are home. Or take care of their families. Or obey their men. Once they see other women doing it they feel more comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:25 PM
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I live in a LCOL area and it would be incredibly difficult to feed 8 people on 1k a month. Not to mention gas (you will need a minivan for that many kids), clothing, medical care, animal feed, etc. We’re currently spending around 1k a month to feed three adults, and we buy in bulk and generally don’t buy expensive food. Younger kids might eat less, but older kids often eat more than an adult. I'm feeding 4 kids. I don't keep track of the spending but it's not that bad maybe 800 euros a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:30 PM
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Men work less, are in education less and volunteer less than women. They also have fewer friends and social circle ties. So what are they busier doing? Playing video games and posting on Reddit? Probably. I have a lot of games to catch up on myself. ​ You are too busy and independent to deal with anyone other than a dependent woman who will cater to you? How sad that sounds. I need a woman to make my life easier not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:23 PM
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What is difficult? ​ Here's an example, it's translated from Swedish [https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/a/QVM2V/kvinna-glom-inte-att-midsommarbraka] ​ Woman, don't forget to make Midsummer's Eve difficult Our midsummer tradition offers a boat trip for all men in the middle the day. They simmer away with the boat, without women and children, and have a good time for an hour or so. Meanwhile, the women make coffee, tie wreaths and look after the children. Does that sound like a womani…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:15 PM
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Pillars of the community/responsible men/men who are not bottom of the barrel don't cheat on their wives (who do nothing but cook and clean for them, to quote you) and speak cheerfully about it. I don't see it that way. I see it as young thots that can't keep a job get easy money for sleeping with me. It's a form of charity. If I didn't cheat on my wife other women would lose out financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:02 PM
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As I understand it the guy usually spends money on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:21 PM
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I had to look her up. 4/10. Would bang and deny it afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:16 PM
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Many men don't have time to deal with independent women. They have other things going on in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:57 PM
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If such strong social conditioning needs to be pushed onto women to be 'feminine', then you can't really call it women's true nature. The places where women have the most wealth/opportunities and freedom/autonomy are the places where women exhibit their nature their true nature the most. Or there is social conditioning in the Western media teaching women to be difficult. Absent that culture women are not as difficult to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:55 PM
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Ah yes, silly me for using the average wages and average expenses including rent, food, utilities and transport, to show how high the COL is. Clearly I should’ve used some other widely acceptable metric to work out what the costs of the average family in America might be. /s That's for normies. We were talking about tradwives. They don't have 2 kids, they have 6 kids. It's a different calculation. ​ Chickens, a few pigs, a garden, the house, tool sheds, that’s 1-2 acres we’re looking at. Plus th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:44 PM
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How Sweden? I've heard so much nonsense going from that country but I like that country due to its rich history in manufacturing and their economic policies when it comes to labor It's nothing like it used to be. Everything is very expensive, crime is a thing, and it's very diverse. But gibs are still decent. For example salmon is now 50 euros per kilo at my local grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:05 AM
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I do Northern Europe in the summers and Spain in the winters. It's a trend in Scandinavia right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:46 AM
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This site estimates that the average COL per month in Mississippi per month for a family of four (with rent, which you suggested to do) is $4205. So per year, that’s $50460 If you're tradding it you have at least 6 children. In that case you are looking at a family of 8. The mistake you are making is that you are looking at average cost of living. I'm not familiar with American real estate, but I have experience with real estate in Europe. Here is an example, https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:23 AM
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I get it. That's different then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:19 AM
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You also have to travel a long way for no real reason. I do Eastern Europe and Spain. In Spain you can get women from South America without having to fly all the way there. Also it's cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:40 AM
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It is not that common for women to be solely home makers anymore in the west. More and more, due to rising cost of living, people have jobs even the women! Cant really live out the tradwife fantasy with no money after all. My wife follows tradwife accounts of women in the US that are married to blue collar workers. She does this because they have great tips on how to save money. If you are willing to rent, live in a cheaper area, give up on holidays it can be done. The issue is that most women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:38 AM
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I agree that's unfair. The gf should get to be in on the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:33 AM
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That's more expensive and worse service. I would be paying 300 dollars per hour and the service would be bad. For that money I can get 3 girls that are hotter and nicer abroad. More bang for the buck literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:27 AM
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I have paid first world women a few times. Their attitudes were still terrible. I'm not doing that again. Not only is it cheaper abroad. The women treat you better as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:25 AM
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I keep in mind the option of going to another country to find someone. I believe I'm more likely to find women who find me more attractive in my homeland than in the West and getting. Also, it's easier to get someone who is more conservator about relationships there. That's what I want and it's hard to find this type of girl where I live. ​ I advise against it. Lots of those women want to get to the West to live like Western women. It's better to find a woman in the West and make her traditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:50 AM
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while first world men hold onto these fantasy idea of a Mad Men type wife sitting at home all day with a roast in the oven. My wife unit spends her days cooking, baking and cleaning. I don't see why that would be out of the ordinary. ​ They can and will be the "perfect wife" but they will demand financial and familial support and they deserve it. Many of us already have wives. We're only looking for some young tail at a discount. ​ And often, when passport bros are paying for their needs, they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:48 AM
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Passport bros are below average in their country If you have to move countries in order to find a partner that's a good indicator that you are unattractive. Going to another country isnt going to make you any more attractive. Because money can't make someone emotionally or physically attracted to you. So its a big waste of time if you want a partner who genuinely likes you to go overseas. Women who live in poverty see westerners as green cards and wallets. I'm above average. Probably in the 20%.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:27 AM
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We could just start educating young women as they enter their fertile years that they are going to be given a lot of power that they need to use wisely. Lying, string men along for attention, and using sexuality to gain power in deceptive ways should be taught to be unacceptable. Outside of getting likes on social media, and free meals that make them gain weight, I don't see the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:01 AM
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So no one wins Women lose after 35 and they keep losing for their rest of their lives. Some don't even know that they are losing. They're wondering where they can meet a good man at 50. It's not that men win. It's that we don't need to play the game anymore. We can pay to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:16 PM
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Women may like the “idea” of a happy relationship and storybook marriage, but compared to men their sex drive and therefore active determination to engage with and meet men is nonexistent. Even when they do find a man attractive, they keep their ego so closely guarded that everything has to be PERFECT for them to open themselves up, and usually not even then. I think most women don't feel the need to be sexual and engage with men when they are young because they think they can get commitment at …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:52 PM
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Okay. No one is forcing women to stay married. I'm sure life as a 40 year old divorced woman is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:59 PM
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You can't have it both ways. Either women sleep around or they're almost all virgins in a traditional society. You can't choose both. I don't care about sleeping with loser women. I have standards. The guys that want to sleep with these women are in it for the low cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:43 PM
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Problems in marriage often lead to dead bedrooms as it is difficult to feel in the mood when your upset with your spouse. Do men really want to stay in a sexless marriage rather than divorce? It just makes since to leave than deal with someone destroying your peace. Personally I would dump my wife on the spot if she refused sex. But in principle you should work through your problems. Otherwise you might as well not get married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:42 PM
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If your life is easier in poverty than with your husband, wouldn't that tell you a lot about the husband? The woman is usually the one losing out. As the evidence shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:36 PM
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Only if they get caught. Same goes for men. If you fail to vet properly it becomes a personal problem. It's not a secret that women sleep around. It's all over social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:34 PM
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According to you those men will no longer exist because a myth died. They have no reason to not fuck around secretly on their own terms too. Women that fuck around are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:53 PM
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Traditional women don't want those men either and we both know that. You have no issue lying to them and then want to get pissed off if you get lied to in return. It's pointless. You'll get east asia before you get concubines. We're traditional societies too. It was the women of both that decided they were done dealing with men wanting traditional wives without being traditional themselves. This all started with women wanting to leave the home and experience premarital sex. Of course men are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:39 PM
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The incessant need to vilify women in RP spaces is definitely a factor. But I also have a theory that since this myth is upheld by anecdotes that many divorced men simply need to believe this as an explanation for their own failed marriages. Otherwise they have to admit that she left because she rejects him not for the “cash and prizes.” OUCH that hurts. Maybe she shouldn't reject her husband then. That's why marriage is supposed to be a lifelong commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:31 PM
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But they will, because men want sex and a wife. It's not about virginity when it was a myth. What stopped those marriages from working before when there were still women that had sex and men too? Nothing and it won't change afterwards. I have an acquaintance. He's an Arabic guy. He wanted to do it the Western way. Met a woman who was not a virgin. He lied to his family and relatives that she was. Everyone who knew told him not to do it. He married her, had a child, kept her at home. While he's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:00 PM
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You can say that, but you won't stop millions of men from marrying. They've always married and virginity has never been able to be proven. It won't stop them now. I know what you are trying to do. Men in trad cultures will never accept non-virgin brides. Don't take my word for it. Ask other women. ​ You're already married with kids apparently. What does knowing the test is a myth change? Nothing. Your wife is still of the same character and morals as before you knew that information. I didn't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:24 PM
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You win. I have changed my opinion. Since they can't prove virginity they can't have marriage. I am sure that women in traditional cultures will welcome this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:02 PM
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They even acknowledge it as fact in Pakistan. If that's how it's going to be we'll stop marrying. They can get the Western deal for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:54 PM
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How are people here "Karen's". They been reporting you to the manager or something? One of them did the other day. The memes write themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:14 PM
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There's no such thing, because no doctor can tell you that a woman has had sex or not unless there is evidence of trauma. I going to call my doctor and ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:12 PM
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That girl with "proof" could have taken 50 dicks and no doctor could ever tell you otherwise as long as no trauma occurred. Sex shouldn't be traumatic. All right. I guess we'll give up on virginity and marry women who have slept with other men. There are women that get surgery to hide it. If a guy has common sense he will be able to tell. Not physically but the woman's character, her family, people talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:28 AM
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It's not that rare. A hymen stretching or breaking from sports, a fall, or other physical activity isn't rare. It's not an every day occurrence, but l have seen more than one. We both know that's a convenient excuse for women that sleep around. Can it happen? I'm sure. Is it more likely she had premarital sex? Very much so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:25 AM
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Yeah, like a mother's word that daughter hasn't had sex. 🤣 You ask her friends or neighbors if they have seen her with guys. People talk. My wife was a dork so I didn't feel suspicious. ​ The baby was passing through a fully intact hymen. What magical dick powers does a man think he has that an infant head doesn't?? What's the prevalence? 1 per million?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:17 AM
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That's 100% caveman bullshit. There are women that have birthed children and have fully intact perfectly round hymens. Hahaha! I have delivered all of my children. I'm not falling for that one. ​ A virgin can have a vaginal exam with a speculum. In either case the girl needs to provide proof if she wants to ride with this bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:58 AM
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The guy's an idiot. Bit in general, there's always a risk of being cheated on. Not much you can do. If she doesn't have an ex and she doesn't leave the home she can't cheat. If she was a virgin you had her first therefore you have one up on the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:54 AM
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You're supposed to hang it outside your house. But that's not socially acceptable in the West. I would probably have put it on my wall for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:53 AM
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Who lets their wife have a phone smh My wife unit thinks she herself should not have a phone after the stories I've shown her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:51 AM
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No, we can't. We have nothing to compare, because every woman is different and it's not a symmetrical piece of tissue. I was told that if they can get one finger in she's a virgin. If they can fit two she is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:50 AM
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I mean the sexual history of the person in the post. It isn't mentioned. No I don't. I hope the OP in the post provides more details. ​ Many women don't bleed, especially if the man isn't having sex with her in a way that means he hurts her. Some are born without a hymen or it doesn't stretch any more from having sex. It's common for normal physical activity to stretch it out. I was a bit too gentle with her. She cares more about it than I do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:49 AM
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There's loads of western Europeans on this sub, you know? It's not American-only. Maybe those women adopt the rhetoric. But in real life they're not going to be Karens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:37 AM
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What's scary is that we have no way of knowing if she was just pretending the whole time. One day your wife can just decide you sucked all along and she misses her highschool ex. Brutal. I wonder if there is any way to prevent that from happening. [https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/italian-man-99-divorcing-wife-of-77-years-over-60-year-old-affair] Italian Man, 99, Divorcing Wife of 77 Years Over 60-Year-Old Affair ​ A 99-year-old Italian man filed for divorce from his 96-year-old wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:28 AM
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How do you know her sexual history? You take her to a doctor. They examine her and will tell you if she is lying. In my case my mother called her mother and she confirmed that my wife was a virgin. You can tell when you have sex the first couple of times as well. My wife didn't bleed though which she regrets to this day. I wanted to display the sheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:19 AM
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So i thought, we recently hadn’t been as intimate and she just felt distant. One morning she was in the shower and i just made our kid breakfast. her phone was on the table, we know each others codes, i checked her IG and read stuff that broke me. stuff from regretting being married to me, unhappy, wanting to be with another guy that she knew from HS and keep in mind HS for us was in the mid-2000s. She mentioned how she lost interested in me sexually. All this she told to another man. This other…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:47 AM
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I for myself never enjoyed just fucking a women and then dipping, i never understood clowns that tricked women in to having sex with them and then ghosting them, i want to connect with those women on a deeper level. What if women don't want to offer anything else than sex? Being an interesting person takes time and effort. It's much easier for women to be hot and split their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:11 AM
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Sounds like the right dress then Very backhanded. You sure caught my attention now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:04 AM
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Nice collar bones. Yes it's slutty. It also looks cheap. You show legs or cleavage not both. I wouldn't talk to a woman who wore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:00 AM
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I would want a virginity certificate. Also I'm banging other women on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:50 AM
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Do all men want hot women? Money is their version of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:42 AM
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Like if I were a woman, I would work hard and spend every penny I have on my physical beauty so I could attract a top-tier, super rich, high value man. Most women don't think men have high standards. They expect to come as they are. Maybe they do their hair if they're feeling ambitious. Then, after marriage, I could let myself go if I wanted and get a major pay-day from the divorce. Rich men rarely marry women that are not rich themselves. But I digress. But anyways, for women who married men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:34 AM
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Nah. Western European women are not this unhinged either. It's an American problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:12 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:04 PM
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What would be the point? It's better if your wife is in on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:01 PM
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Social stigma. That's all I'm going to say about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:59 PM
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If that's the case there are 2 options. Either they are trying to neg you. Women do this a lot. I've had it too. Maybe they think you're out of their league. Or you're imagining the whole thing and the women have resting bitch face. They look that way naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:41 PM
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However as I’ve gotten bigger I tend to notice more stares from women except it isn’t in the positive way. They always seem to be glaring at me. Like once after a set of bench press I see this group of girls looking at me in disgust as opposed to when I was skinny and they ignored me. Feel free to discuss. Women think that guys on steroids are freaky. There. Maybe work on your self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:36 PM
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I agree that the average guy will get dropped immediately for cheating, but there are exceptions for high-value men. I just don't know how common it is. I am a low value man [and getting lower value every year] and I have no worries about getting dumped. The other guys out there are even worse than me! Where are the women going to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:31 PM
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Contrary to the ramblings of the women here, most women in real life do indeed have a price tag for cheating. If a guy is high value enough, whether it be via money, attractiveness, status or a combination of all 3; there is a point where a woman will just accept his cheating and stay. I don't understand. They have no choice in the matter. Cheating is legal. If they don't like it they can leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:29 PM
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It's about that once they get old they don't want to work anymore. They don't want to pay their own bills. They want to travel. And they want guys to finance it of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:35 PM
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That pinned comment is interesting, im surprised at how candid she is. This part deserves to be quoted so we can be amused at all the independent ladies on this sub. ​ now I am over 35 and learned too late. I am very tired because I bought a home by myself, am shuttling around kids by myself, work full-time and cannot afford the vacations, or a home in the right neighborhood because 2 incomes are needed. I don't drive what I would like to drive and no prince charming is in sight to give me a boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:30 PM
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It's subtle, but yeah, people don't look up to you, they think you're just expired and irrelevant. No way. I'm seen as a successful man and I'm short and unemployed. Care to provide examples or details?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:13 PM
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This is for the bros that get negged with the argument that women make their own money and don't need men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbsiOZGQg1Y Watch them come around after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:29 PM
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Women are liberated, they are getting more education and making good money. So just go get money won't do anything. Do you have any idea how many women want to be treated to a holiday? Or drop out of college and sit home all day? Many. Some women don't even ask for that. They have credit card debt, can't pay the rent, lost their jobs, or want a free meal. Men don't need to be better partners. They need the material things that a lot of women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:48 PM
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What do you mean? Why would you "not worry" when living with the mens family? The scenario isn't about living with families. Because if you take the woman in you're responsible for her. ​ It's about romantic couples living together as a pair. That's a Western thing. Traditional people don't move away from family.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:33 PM
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They simply assume that Middle Aged guys have money. If my wife is with me they think that she is 20 years younger and I'm paying for her. I left out that I got older. I'm in worse shape, I dress worse, I'm less polite. All that happened is that I got older. I started dressing older that helped too I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:28 PM
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How do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:27 PM
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Getting Laid with Less Money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpTMnOKda_E This is the video you need. ​ This guy goes on 100 dates, spends $7,800...but was it worth it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEhdL4msL98 This is what 8k will get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:58 PM
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Great advice. I'll give you that. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:52 PM
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There's a guy called Tom Leykis that tells you to never spend more than 40 dollars on a date. Google it. Also there was a guy on reddit that spent thousands of dollars on dates and it was all trash. It was all over youtube for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:42 PM
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Because you think he's doing something morally wrong in order for all this women to want to sleep with him That's all what this tradcons have in common Us tradcons think that if you mess around with trash women you will have trash problems. Like going to jail. Now if he got married and then did depraved things with his wife we would be all for it. But being a cad is no way to go through life. Take heed youngster.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:40 PM
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Crazy thing is she even confided in me about being bullied by some girls and how none of the guys that she met has been asking her out. Turns out I was the only sucker dumb enough to do it. I don't know what to tell you. The information is out there. Guys all over the Internet are saying not to pay for dates. ​ The lesson that I learned is girls use online dating as a way to kill time and pass the evening from their humdrum daily routine of work or school. It's just a game to them and men are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:32 PM
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I know you're upset. But reporting my posts is not going to make me like you. You know who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:22 PM
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Even this sub; it’s full of women telling you what is and isn’t acceptable/desired. Twitter is full of women talking about their day to day lives, dating, etc - literally first hand accounts. TikTok the same, a treasure trove of information. Let me save you a lot of time. None of that matters it's all about money. When I was in uni I was in shape, dressed well, had good social skills. I got snarked at by ugly women. Came into some money and I don't have to care because women are hitting on me no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:11 PM
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Hahahahaha!!! That was really good. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:56 PM
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Can confirm. I wasn't ignored by women myself but I still reject them for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:52 PM
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You don't get treated with respect for being a family man? You don't have young women trying to catch your attention? What is going here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:51 PM
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Spare a thought for the independent women out there. They will be working until they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:44 PM
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Details man. Damage, looks, performance. Would you recommend?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:40 PM
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My wife has been home since she was 18. She would never trade it for working. I'm sure many women would love to have the problem of being bored at home when they're washing dishes or delivering parcels at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:36 PM
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Women see women being a housewife as oppression men see it as a privilege. Staying home is considered a luxury. Most women don't want to admit that men are not willing to invest that much in them. Some women are delusional until they realize that working is for life. Then they change their opinion. I doubt that any woman thinks men have a better life. They're looking to complain in the hopes of getting something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:31 PM
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The women on dating apps are crazy. I tried it once. A woman matched with me and then wrote me a wall of text about me cheating on my wife and being ugly. Another one tried to get me to travel to another country to see her. Lots of delusional fat women too. It's free for a reason bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:31 PM
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I love the assumption that the homely girl in English class wanted shit to do with me. They all went after me. And I was an asshole. They try to date out of their league. [I still want stripper Stacy, get lost bookworms]
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:24 PM
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All the more harsh because, with the aid of social media and OLD, those plain quiet girls can participate in hookup culture if they so choose. It's just their male analogs who cannot. Those girls were getting used for sex already before social media. Quiet girls have never been desirable. In fact, my wife unit who is a quiet girl, recently told me she got lucky with me because when she was young no one else would have her. And she's very thin. Not getting to bang loser women is not a loss. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:19 PM
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I could be wrong but just from experience & observation this is the vibe I get. Anyone else have thoughts? As a man you get treated much better in the East. Women would never say the things they say on this sub for example. They would be considered crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:01 PM
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You bitch and complain about the looks of the person you're fucking, you pay them. Sorry, those are the rules. People don't get disrespected for free like you just called normal people basically ugly and not a worthy time. That's not how it works. The girl needs to impress me if she wants a shot with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:51 PM
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I married the quiet girl at the back of the class. Now I cheat on her with girls out of my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:46 PM
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Generally speaking yes. But it's their loss not mine. I get to sleep with Stacey instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:44 PM
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It's to women's benefit. They don't have to develop personality. It's a lower standard for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:30 PM
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Why average and ugly males don’t illicit the same desire that Chad does? Gee I don’t know. If a woman is hetero I don't see the problem. Women have to be hot for sex to be good for men. It doesn't go the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:28 PM
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Look here. I'm the man and it's her job to provide the sexual experience. At least the hot body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:27 PM
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I only want the girl to be hot. It's a very reasonable expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:24 PM
1

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:22 PM
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That's why men need several women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:16 PM
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There's a transaction somewhere in that relationship. Sex is never free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:14 PM
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Getting a girlfriend or having sex isn't paying for a service. If you have that mentality then you'll only end up with women who also have that mentality, and create a self fulfilling prophecy. Men have to bring resources to the table to get women to have sex with them. We're cool with that. Women only have to be hot. They can't manage that. It's like going to a restaurant and having them screw up an omelette.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:13 PM
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"But but but the average man isn't getting laid like Chad is! That's the issue! It's not fair that conventionally attractive people have more sex than me" We should all be treated like Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:10 PM
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Males won’t be happy until they have a harem of 20 women sucking their dick on rotation. That’s why you can’t measure male sexual success on what they REALLY want. You have clearly never had women try to suck your dick. It's not stellar. All we want is a personal porn star. Is that too much to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:09 PM
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The average American man is fat too then. But he's the one paying for the service. How much do guys spend on dates and whatever else they buy for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:06 PM
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All right. What is this costing them in time, self-respect, and money? To have intercourse with a fat woman. Looks like a bad deal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:59 PM
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What's the quality of the pussy? It's not the win you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:54 PM
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Is it because they are not threatening?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:21 PM
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What do you get out of it? How do you stand them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:12 PM
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She's very skinny. Very submissive. Loves the idea of me not working. Buys me anything I want. Encourages me to try new women. Very good at planning dates. She comes up with new things to do. Usually things I would never try myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:57 AM
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My partner is very good friends with one of my former partners, so not that embarrassing. That's not what most guys would do. Thinking of your partner as a "toy" is a you problem. You think I'm the only one?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:30 AM
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If all of your friends are terrible and toxic, I guess. You understand it's embarrassing for the guy right? So what? I assume that people I've dated in the past have dated others. This isn't about dating. It's about that other guys played with your toy before you. It's always going to be at the back of his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:53 AM
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It's weird because you're supposed to depend on your family in this situation. It only makes sense for people that are alone or can't depend on anyone. Also you can live with the guy's family and not worry about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:49 AM
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Probably they won't if they have the emotional maturity of an adult. It's the bro code. If you've banged his gf you're obliged to give him a hard time. Imagine that a guy used to be gay. And then his wife meets the guys he used to date. Maybe there are some social media pictures with his former dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:41 AM
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Hahaha good one. 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:35 AM
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Honestly it depends. A woman from a Western country yes. I would understand. A woman from a traditional culture no. It's not how you do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:12 AM
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All right. Then you collect food from different guys? Do you not have food at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:08 AM
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Because when he meets the guys that banged his wife they are going to make fun of him. That's what I would do. That it happened in the past doesn't change that they got one up on him. It's like you get a toy that a lot of other guys have already used and discarded. It makes guys feel like losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:03 AM
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Wow! That is so scummy. Are these women poor? I know that in America restaurants have huge portions so people bring the food home. Is it so that they can't afford food? Is it considered a luxury? In Europe people go for coffee. If a woman dated a man to get meals people would think that she was homeless. I can't get over this. It's like you take a woman to a soup kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:50 AM
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Who’s “we”? All the dateless manlets? Weak neg. 2/10 Honey- we know. Males have been jealous and frightened of women for millennia. We are frightened of creatures that cook and take care of children. But, hey. If it makes you feel better, sure- think of us like cars. And then tell me what value you bring to a woman’s life 😂 I tell her what to do. Without a man she will not know what to do all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:44 AM
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Except that isn't what it is. But imagine. How might the husband feel abut that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:23 AM
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Whatever “hook up culture” is, we are experiencing the opposite. As I understand it [not American] it's basically prostitution. A woman will sleep with one man on Monday, another man on Tuesday, a third man on Wednesday and so on. And the men all buy her meals. We don't have this in Europe. It's very strange to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:18 AM
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That would be seen as you could not please him. That's embarrassing for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:13 AM
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PPD bros. Opinion on harem quests? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D6mebH3ZKo Is the juice worth the squeeze?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:11 AM
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Men whose wives sleep with other men are cucks. Men sleep with other men's wives to prove that they can take their lunch money. It's only fun if the other guy has a problem with it. If the other guy let's you have a woman he is tired of then it's not cucking. If she's old, fat or ugly then the joke is on the other guy because he got memed into sleeping with a low value woman. It depends on if the woman is hot really. ​ Men can not respect women who sleep with multiple men, women can not respect …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:57 AM
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​ the average man is no longer viable as a partner. The literature calls this a "marriage market mismatch", which typically results in women postponing marriage and childbirth until a "worthy" partner shows up. Those women will be filtered out of the gene pool. Men will either go for women that are not educated or import spouses from abroad. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:31 AM
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Is this easier or harder, and why? How would you counsel such men differently compared to most young men who may not be actively looking for a wife (whether open to it in the future or not)? Is it even possible to pursue this today, at least in the modern Anglosphere? Do you have any moral objections to a man doing this, and if so what are they? I don't where to start. Why do you want a wife? What are your intentions with the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:18 AM
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Why would there be regret? Imagine it as cheating on your husband with multiple men. ​ Dude, you’re still in school. Most people mature out of this shaming sex/ idolising hymens anyhow. Unless you’re religious, or lack a decent education. I don't know who told you this. We think of women like cars. More mileage means lower value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:00 AM
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They don't because they are told it is socially unacceptable. That's to protect their marriageability ​ If a women did that the man would be a cuck. How do you mean? ​ Women do not feel respected when her partner goes to sleep with other women. Men like variety. What is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:52 AM
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If men feel like they should be able to sleep around with women why should women only be monogamous? Your flair is even about it. Because women typically don't want to sleep with random men. ​ The delusion is your sweet pure hardworking woman at home, happily cleaning the floors, telling you to have a wonderful great time fucking the hoes as you walk out the door. It's not real. It's very real. Where do you get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:38 PM
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Why the hell should a man go through life, work hard and bust his ass, get money and the status just to settle for just one girl? Because most women have nothing to offer. When you sleep with a woman you give her a free shot at your wealth and lifestyle. Women love it. ​ If men had to bust their asses just to get women to barely notice, they're going to sleep with other women every chance that comes up, because that's what they worked hard for. Why would you do that? It's not a winning move as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:33 PM
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Why? I'm not talking about a woman settling. I'm talking about getting a good homemaker. That will make or break your daily life. I don't lift a finger at home, food is always being cooked, and the kids are taken care of. I can get a slut for cheaps anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:22 PM
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what’s there to sustain a relationship after the looks start to change? If she stays in shape she will still look hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:17 PM
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Let's be honest — larping on the internet aside — only a tiny fraction of the men that say they "don't want a career woman" actually travel in the same circles as (or would be able to date) those types of career women. You mean women on corporate boards? I know them. They're all old, ugly and mannish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:31 PM
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I think a misconception is that when men talk about career women, they aren't talking about women just with careers. What is this career woman? Do you want a wife or a roommate that splits the bills? ​ Personally, I think the difference could be explained by this example. My favorite career woman is Dr. G medical examiner. She is a woman that does what many people, men or women, couldn't do (examine dead bodies all day), yet she is the most nurturing, kind, and comforting personality you might e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:29 PM
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Google what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:05 PM
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Unfortunately, the qualities that attract women have more in common with narcissists, sociopaths, overly masculine men, risk takers than 'stable" regular guys. What are overly masculine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:00 PM
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Except the woman guys are calling ugly also wasnt fat, so I dont know why you keeping bringing it up. Could you post her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:36 PM
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Men that have something going on don't have time for casual with loser women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:10 PM
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That’s extremely subjective. Guys can have a thing for tomboys. Here we go. The average woman needs to wear a dress so we can tell that she is female. Any deviation from that is for women that are hot. We don't have a thing for tomboys. We have thing for Stacy with short hair. ​ No, its not. People saying that doesn’t mean it’s actually true when its obvious the most beloved women have a particular look to them, as well as dress extremely well and cake tons of makeup on their faces. The look is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:08 PM
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Women fuck bums that can't afford escorts. Men fuck hot sluts, if they have sense that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:02 PM
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Q4M: What’s so bad about how women choose who to date and fuck? There are 2 types of women. Wives and sluts. Wives are the women that have your children. Sluts are the women you bang on the side. Men in the West are confused about this. They try to court and marry sluts. Then they are disappointed when it doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:52 PM
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Looking flawless 24/7 takes time and money. Don't be fat and don't dress like a man. That's the standard. ​ Stop expecting women to look like supermodels/celebrities/e-thots and realize that shit is make up, fashion, and/or plastic surgeries. Fair enough. What should we expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:42 PM
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Conventional beauty standards are not a high bar to be honest. If you disagree with that then what do you think that a reasonable standard would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:26 PM
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They're not average. They’re way above average. What do they have that the average woman doesn't? Apart from being less fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:18 PM
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guys who dont touch grass thinks celebrities, supermodels, and IG thots are “average”, They are average women who aren't overly fat. Maybe above average faces but otherwise nothing special about them. Yes I've had IG thots. They only look hot for their pics. Behind the scenes they're boring and meh. Most overrated product ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:11 PM
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the women that do not want to get married and prefer to focus on their own life do not at any point. what is hard to understand about that? I don't believe that. I think those women are just saying that. It's a teenage rebellion for lonely women. and there is a huge jump between middle class and literally homeless. you're exhibiting extreme black and white thinking here. there's a lot of ways to live that are somewhere between those two that are very much comfortable for modest people that don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:50 PM
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My wife unit came into my office, got down on one knee and called me "my lord". Then she gave me Adana kebap. Do you think she's okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:56 PM
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No, it's what rapists. How old are you? Not really, she's better off not being raped and able to take care of herself. No one that is married thinks this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:47 PM
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I would like to add. Money doesn't matter. Height doesn't matter. Cars don't matter. Housing doesn't matter as much. Religion doesn't matter. No one here will ask what you bring to the table. You bring yourself. Women are more feminist though. I can see an American woman barefoot and pregnant. European women not so much. I think women in EE care more about money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:38 PM
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Is dating in places like Germany, France, Sweden, etc just not as toxic as the US? Or is this just my own faulty perception? No it's not. I think it's due to American women. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:31 PM
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Which is coercion.... It's what grown ups do. So? I fail to see the issue on either part with that. You get to rape someone else, your wife gets away. Everybody wins. My wife becomes a single mother. She's better off enthusiastically consenting to the straightjacket. Paying escorts is not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:22 PM
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Nah. This is me. I'm not looking to upset women. I'm just an annoying person in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:19 PM
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Even if she hadn't offered to do it with the other guy? Like it was his idea and she was neutral about it at best or simply put up with it because he was her bf at the time? I would be jealous. Maybe not leave her over it. But I would make her pay somehow. I want the woman to be dedicated to me. If she did something for a different guy then she would be more dedicated to him. That would make me jealous and vindictive. I would probably hold a grudge for a decade. Maybe, we will see if I can work …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:15 PM
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I agree, like going out when you don't want to or getting up to let the cat in are things people do for their spouses. Coercion isn't one of those things. I'm not talking about coercion. I'm talking about taking one for the team. So? He leaves. 🤷‍♀️. It's nothing like goodbye life unless you live in the middle east or a third world country. Although you would make a lot more sense.....🤣 That's how a lot of marriages end. No they don't. Rape isn't a necessary part of a relationship. I will give y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:46 PM
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So.... it's basically trying to coerce someone into doing something they don't want to do? I think everyone does things they don't want to do for their spouse at some point. ​ They can keep arguing, but nobody should be forced to do anything sexually they don't want to do, regardless of whether they've done it before. Excuses aren't needed. Fair enough. Then he leaves. Goodbye home, travel, and retirement plan. This is why women need excuses. They want the resources but don't want to provide the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:18 PM
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If your gonna be paranoid, why stop at previous partners? Didn't you see the way she was looking at the guy in the check out line? How about her co-worker Steve? People always gonna find something to take issue with if they are the type to take issue. Luckily my wife was a virgin so I never had to deal with this myself. Grain of salt applies because I'm not speaking from personal experience. But I wouldn't have cared if she fucked her co-worker Steve because I would feel that Steve is a beta mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:14 PM
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Good one. If they both want it daily no way I'm keeping up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:57 PM
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I’m assuming your original wife has left you…. You wish. She's probably cooking I haven't checked on her for a while. ​ Were you spending too much time online trying to outrage women so you could feel a little bit of power? You got me. Now I am conveniently single waiting for a feisty female to swoop me off my feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:56 PM
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If you want to get married don't let me stop you. It will be awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:52 PM
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I don't man regular sex. It could be he wants anal or he want to cum on her face. Things like that. She did it with a previous guy but doesn't want to do it with him. He gets upset. They argue about it. That's how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:51 PM
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We all have different levels of jealousy. Some guys care about number of partners, for some it's what acts she did, if she liked the previous guys better, maybe if the previous guys were more successful, did woman's looks get better or worse. I think if you have premarital sex you end up dealing with it in some way. Maybe the guy doesn't care about the number but he cares if the previous guy was more successful or better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:48 PM
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They manage each other. That’s the life hack. You try that. ​ And I’m not paying lol. Let's call it investing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:25 PM
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I approve of that mindset. Reading is not for women. Men have issues with premarital sex. It's stupid but it's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:23 PM
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Their son in a perfectly normal guy, not out of shape but not one of those “gym bros” who rarely existed back in their day anyway. He’s not particularly remarkable or tall or handsome but there’s nothing wrong with him….he’s at least or as or maybe even a bit more attractive than dad was back at his age, yet he had no trouble…. GenX parents? Absolutely. Millennials once our children grow up? No we will know. ​ Or do you think the mother wishes she’d been like her daughter and held out longer, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:20 PM
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Let's say a woman wants to marry a guy. Buy a home, have 2 kids, travel, save for retirement. Regular people life path. At some point the guy is going to want something sexually. If the woman says no, there goes the home, travel, and retirement plan. Therefore women need to evade the topic with an excuse. While not making the guy upset about saying no to him. I've never done it before I'm not ready yet It's pervert I am not a prostitute on and on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:14 PM
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Women are not going to “get over it”… they’re just going to leave your ass high and dry so you’ll be fapping alone at 55. ​ I'm thinking about starting a harem quest and have a harem of Colombian thots. Like this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D6mebH3ZKo What is this fapping you speak of? ​ You can will time to turn back if you like but it’s not going to happen. Yours stuck with treating women as people or devoting yourself to your fleshlight I’m afraid. I'm going to have my tradwife and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:08 PM
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Doing sexual things with some guys but not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:00 PM
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But you're the one buying. You're paying. Why would you want 2 wives? That's 2 people to manage instead of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:53 AM
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Dude. You're buying a depreciating asset. It's a terrible investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:48 AM
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All the excuses that women use when talking about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:46 AM
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Was hanging out with friends this week and they’re all in relationships. Guess it’s time to find a wife or two. Give it few years first and see how it works out for your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:44 AM
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For men or women? For men it's like 80-90% looks. For women the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:37 AM
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I can't speak for women but I imagine it makes them feel unwanted if the guy used to be into guys. When it comes to men here's an example for starters. [https://postimg.cc/188Qcrk4]
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:13 AM
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Even very high libido women who are curious still don't just suddenly become turned on by something they weren't into (fecal play for example) just because someone is attractive and into it. If she's prude you get her a drink and she loosens up. Some women are like that, I've met them. It's annoying to everyone else. I'm sorry but your personal experience doesn't extrapolate to huge swaths of women. There are literally billions. Okay. I'll stop talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:59 AM
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The woman with the hoe phase or the man with the gay phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:51 AM
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Sure and some men. Not most, not all. Not enough to generalize. Why wouldn't most women do this? If a guy is attractive they will want to try different things with him. Really not. Most people don't just suddenly find something a turn on or acceptable that they didn't before. With the right guy? Are you kidding me? Women are more sexual with certain guys. I'm that guy so I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:47 AM
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A woman is not a child. You sure? Obeying every command without question makes someone a sheep at beats and at worst someone who will just commit atrocities all day because someone told them to. Take the tinfoil off. Most men only want a blowjob and a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:42 AM
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Also, anecdotally many younger women I know say that they just want a wealthy man to take care of them. I swear even admitting that 10 years ago was shameful, but nowadays it doesn't look like it. What do you think Working class women got on social media. If anything women gold dig less than before because they work more. A majority of Middle Managers are women for example. The idea that a woman with lip filler and a neck tat will be getting a so called bag is humorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:37 AM
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This is all so tiresome. Most people here are middle class mkay? They adhere to middle class sensibilities. They want the guys to wear suits and the women to wear dresses. Then the man brings the woman flowers and chocolates. They are not supposed to get drunk and bang behind a dumpster. That's what working class people do. Middle class men have always banged working class women. Because working class women are not sexually repressed the way middle class women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:28 AM
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I think what he means to say is he would prefer a decent woman. But he will bang trashy women because it's cheap. Men have always done this. When I go to a brothel I'm not banging a chick with a PhD. It's like how some women sleep with bad boys but still want to marry a regular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:18 AM
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men do not have inherent authority or superiority. That's like a child telling an adult that adults don't have inherent authority. It's cute but get real. Obedient isn't really a virtue and can harm if someone obeys every command they are given unquestioningly and doesn't speak out when their say is discounted or not respected equally. Another word for that is good woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:07 AM
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being treated like shit makes people feel like shit. Women spending their adult life feeling like shit isn’t a solution to men’s sexlessness. To suggest that is as ludicrous as telling women to sleep with men they’re not attracted to. Marriage isn't all unicorns and rainbows. You get over it. Men sleep with women they're not attracted to all the time. They're called wives. Do you think I was attracted to my wife when she was visibly pregnant? No but I had sex with her anyway. You think I was att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:02 AM
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It's not real. Stop thinking about it. This never happens. Don't believe what you read on the Internet. Women don't do that. Even if they do it's only a few. If it's more than a few you have no right to judge. She only tried it once. Okay it was a few times but she didn't like it. Well she did like it but not anymore. You are not owed the same things as the last guy. Did I get all of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:32 AM
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I can vouch that this "Then there's a secret menu of degenerate things they're only willing to do with guys they really like." is bullshit except in individual cases. Then you agree that some women are like this? Plenty of people have hard limits regardless of the partner and what they feel toward them. The limits are completely different depending on the guy. You know it and I know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:25 AM
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Based. I think they tell themselves they can trade up later.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:20 AM
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A woman having a hoe phase is like a man having a gay phase. Agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:15 AM
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yeah but we're not talking about the average woman, are we? the average woman also wants to be married and have children, but that is also not what we're talking about. The average woman starts out with delusions about being independent then reality hits. After that she decides that marriage is a good idea after all. also why should someone have to live in a major city? a lot of people don't. once again, i am reminding you that we are talking about surviving, not being middle class. the standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:12 AM
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If you don't sleep with him some other woman will. If you're no fun in the bedroom some other woman will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:59 AM
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All right. Don't get married then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:57 AM
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Absolutely. If they leave they start over and go through the same thing again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:55 AM
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I'm not kidding. If you want to get through to Boomers you need to frame it as mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:50 AM
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also are you genuinely suggesting that cashier, nurse, teacher and waitress are the only jobs women have? The average woman works a low paid job. this conversation was about affording to live. If you live in a major city, pretty much anywhere in the world, you will struggle to live on a low income. It comes down to how much you want to lower your standard of living. You can go from an apartment to a room. You can go from a room to a garage or an attic. buying a home is not a prerequisite for sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:49 AM
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You can rent all your life. I know some people that do that and they are fine. But if homeownership is a goal it's going to be hard to accomplish that on one income. No one is trying to force women into marriage, homeownership and financial stability. We are more than happy to get cheap sex from young women once the rent is due. Btw do you live in Germany?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:35 AM
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I don’t know how to get this into the thick skulls of virtual boomers (anyone older than Gen Z at this point) that things really have changed. “Just do it” is terrible advice. If that were possible and worked then people would have already done it. It’s like telling a depressed person to just be happy. Tell them that you are mentally ill. Because we don't understand this level of social awkwardness. But we understand mental illness. You tell them that you, and others like you, need help with soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:24 AM
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Yes. Normal people make small talk. It's polite. Is everyone here socially awkward? Not because it's a business transaction but because I'm meeting them. Doesn't matter the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:14 AM
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I have viewed a lot of real estate. The woman of the house will show you the place because she considers it her house. Even if her husband owns it. Zoomers are different. They don't like to talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:03 AM
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Zoomer women run away from social interactions. They do not talk to people. If you attempt to talk to a Zoomer the Zoomer will flee.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:58 AM
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I'm a millennial, and I didn't say making friends was easy, I said maintaining friendships is easier than maintaining a romantic relationship and that a romantic partner shouldn't be your only social outlet. Those are true regardless of generation. Let me try to explain it to you. I went to look at a condo I was considering buying. Owner was Millennial guy with Zoomer gf. As I arrive I meet his real estate agent, and the guy himself. All Millennials. We talk a bit and head inside to look at his …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:45 AM
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Women do it all the time. Usually when they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:59 PM
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There's a menu of things that women will do with regular guys. They will have more or less items on the menu but it's going to be similar. Then there's a secret menu of degenerate things they're only willing to do with guys they really like. I'm not talking about they have sex every day and say you're awesome. All women know how to fake that. I'm not talking about anal or swallowing. All women know men like that. I'm not talking about letting you cheat either. A girl calls you on the phone. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:51 PM
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Come on man. Why can't we own wanting women to obey us? Nothing will happen if we say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:23 PM
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I'll get over it eventually. I just need to talk it through with my therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:21 PM
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How can one woman be this hot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YadOPGL-0&t=969s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:16 PM
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My love language is acts of service. As long as she does things for me I will probably find that attractive. I don't see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:12 PM
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Unfortunately it's true. When a woman really wants to sleep with you she will do anything to please you. Are women honest when they deny it? No. If she really desires you no other guy will ever compare. Personal experiences? people here would accuse me of lying. And it might be salt in the wounds of less fortunate guys. That being said you're not going to turn all women on. Some women will really dislike you. Some will reject you. It's a chemistry thing at the end of the day. Sometimes she has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:59 PM
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Words like submissive, obey, tradwife, serving a man, cooking for a man, usually sets them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:37 PM
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decides that "fine, you're good enough for me now", This is worse. You're seen as a sucker and exploitable. I would prefer to never be wanted at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:32 PM
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Habibi, nobody cares enough to pull you out of your porn world and compete with some chick on your laptop screen, Insecure women will feel the need to show that they can do whatever the girls in porn do. There are lots of insecure women out there. ​ in fact, this is why we have an epidemic of lonely men I learned all my best moves from porn. Guys today don't watch enough porn that's why they can't approach women. ​ it's impossible to overstate how consistently women don't give a fuck about men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:27 PM
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I'm curious where on the gender spectrum is this "Alpha" guy situated. If he's the manliest of them all, wouldn't that put him on the toxic side? I suspect the women who started this toxic idea have some sexual interest associated with it. It's too cartoonish to be real. From my limited experience some women really get off on specific things. It can be wealth, jealousy, arrogance, the guy being a cheater. That's what they see as super desirable. It's not that the guy is alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:14 PM
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Mildly depressing but probably accurate. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:32 PM
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Earlier this week I posted a link about a guy putting his wedding on hold because he found out she was gang banged by 3 guys in the past. Any chance you could repost the link?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:26 PM
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As far as I understand toxic masculinity is another word for being a man. Using it unironically is cringe to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:23 PM
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The "alpha widow" theory is ridiculous. That would mean that more manly a guy is, the more star struck are the women. Absolutely not. The manliest man would be borderline toxic and extremely off putting. My sister dated one and still shivers when remembering that he felt insulted when asked to go to the grocery store, like it wasn't a man's job. Some women really like the stereotypical manly attitude. For those women nothing else will do. They will see regular guys as losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:04 PM
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What realistic potential solutions can we find: Tell people to get married and stay married. Radical I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:57 PM
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This archetype of "Alpha Widow", refers to a woman who experienced young love to a dashing "alpha" man who ended up leaving her. I think some women get hung up on a guy and that's where this comes from. If you meet that type of woman, and you are her type, she will never let it go. I have been that guy a few times. If I meet those women again they will stalk me. It happens and it's creepy. I think it's a minority. But they are out there. ​ This aspiration by men is built on their presumption tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:26 PM
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So my view is , this uneven application of standards of morality is toxic to men. As long as sexuality is consensual , and no one is under age , no ones sexuality or desires should be judged or treated unfairly . I agree that it's deeply unfair to us men. But they don't have anything else. We have unlimited porn that they can never compete with. They have no idea how to please us. Shaming is all they have left. It's sad in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:54 PM
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We don't need to go back and forth like this. Just dm me and shoot your shot already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:45 PM
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And yet they are affording them, making those payments, supporting their children. They are choosing to do that and succeeding and doing it all without a man. 🤷‍♀️ They are living in poverty. Look up the numbers. ​ Face it, the world is changing whether you personally like it or not. Yes guys like me get cheap ass and women work to pay our bills now. What a time to be alive!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:44 PM
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Flattering but I'm no Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:41 PM
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I have money that she gave me. That counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:31 PM
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I knock her up and make sure the kids behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:30 PM
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I did law and I wanted a stripper with big boobs. I think the idea that smart men need smart women is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:29 PM
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If a woman is a single mother chances are high that she is a subprime borrower. Basically she is sitting on a mortgage that she can barely afford. That's not a winning move.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:27 PM
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I have a bang-maid that takes care of me. I don't need to worry about skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:25 PM
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That's snarky. What gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:22 PM
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That’s exactly what women are doing when it’s possible though. And it’s not about women not wanting or needing men, but the fact that they’re not interested, and wouldn’t benefit as much as they’d risk loosing, in the men who are mostly whining about not being wanted by women. Men are whining about not getting free sex. They were doing that in 100 BC as well. But that's it. Let me explain how ridiculous this debate is. Let's say that I want this woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fya8r8vRw …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:18 PM
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They are subprime borrowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:56 PM
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What do you think the future holds for a divorced 44 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:56 PM
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And that couldn't possibly be you making assumptions about the thoughts of people you haven't ever talked to based on your own inflated ego ... could it? A lot of women are going to be waitresses, store clerks or nurses for the rest of their lives. For them being the side chick of a gentleman such as myself is a pretty good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:55 PM
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I don't know your age but the right man to do this with got married at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:50 PM
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Don't you live off of your wife's money? Absolutely. I consider myself retired.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:47 PM
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That's fair. A lot of women out there prefer to put their head in the pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:45 PM
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I didn't know the definition. Thank you for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:43 PM
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Once they are older they will settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:42 PM
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For women that work in low paid jobs a guy with some money is a catch. Even if he is married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:41 PM
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All right. How are they going to have children and still pay the mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:40 PM
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Why…? It doesn’t prove anything 🤷‍♀️ Look up the data. ​ I was raised by a single mother myself, and our economy was better after dad died, not worse. We lived in a house on the countryside, no issues whatsoever. And this is true for many women here. There’s also of course families where there’s to mothers, and they do fine - no man’s needed. Most women don't live in the countryside. They live in cities. And housing in cities can be a tad expensive. But if you want to insist that women don't nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:36 PM
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women have always wanted the same autonomy as the one men have always had and right now they're exactly where they want to be. Sounds great to me. I hope they enjoy the experience. ​ they can still find a man to take care of them if they so happen to desire as some men are happily going to provide that but it is no longer a prerequisite for surviving life in society. most women can perfecty well take care of themselves on their own. All right. How is the cashier, nurse, teacher, waitress going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:33 PM
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Over half of the women in the UK don’t have children by age 30 because we know how much it costs. If not being able to find a partner that we have mutual attraction with means that we’re single and have no children evidently that’s fine. All right. You independent women go do your thing. Us Patriarchs will get submissive maids to give us half a dozen children and we'll see how this all plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:25 PM
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Where I live the average home is 350.000 euros. Then you need to heat your home and feed yourself. For many women it's unaffordable on their own. For others they are going to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:22 PM
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This is what we’re taught in university in disciplines like sociology for instance, a notoriously male dominated field. Ask your sociology teacher to show you the disparities between married women and single mothers for the US. The results might surprise you. ​ Women, just as men, generally want a partner that actually care for them, not be forced into marriage. Men have provided for women historically because women weren’t allowed to do that by themselves. Now we do. Unless men accept the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:14 PM
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If you're in close proximity all day. She's younger. She looks after your kids. Eventually one thing will lead to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:07 PM
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Do you all live at home with your parents? The average mortgage is 1500 dollars in the US. Then you have food, bills, taxes, a car, possibly health insurance, it adds up. The women who have children without men live in poverty. I think the average married women have twice the household income of a single mother. Being an independent woman is a very stupid financial decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:02 PM
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forced monogamy, as in women being forced into marriage in order to be able to afford to live as historically women weren't allowed to own property or work or do anything without a husband. now women can choose to be in a monogamous marriage if they want to but it's not a prerequisite for surviving life and not becoming homeless, they can also choose to live single or in any other way they want to. I see. Who was the lady that told you this? See historically men had to take care of women and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 PM
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The guy they want to fuck and marry is often fucking and marrying Stacy. I have been that guy. I wasn't going to fuck below my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:51 PM
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A lot f women out there are looking for a free meal. You would be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:50 PM
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Men don’t seem to understand, we’re past the days of forced monogamy and female dependence on men. Women have free choice and are, thank god, free to choose who they are with. And unfortunately for a lot of men, this means they will be left partnerless. No offense. Genuine question. Are all the women here in women's studies in college? Forced monogamy? What??? Do you mean that instead of being banged by one guy the women get banged by many guys? And the women want this because? In the Real World…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:32 PM
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I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but why would a woman want to be with someone who openly treats her like a replaceable object? That's how men are I guess. We're not like women you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:16 PM
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You're the guy with the bar hopping? Then definitely the book club. Are you kidding me? This is your shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:14 PM
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Definitely the book club. I like the harem feel of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:05 PM
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No one is admiring your spouse. They are probably thinking "Why is that child going off with that old guy? I hope that's her father" While they themselves are working as waitresses, store clerks, cashiers, nail people, delivery people, and so on. I think that gets old real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:02 PM
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Nah. It's easier when you're taken. Women really don't care. They will make a move on you in front of your wife. They will offer to be side chicks. They are more surprised if you're not willing to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:52 PM
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Presently whenever a man around forty or older, I think “Get away from me, you creepy old buzzard”. When I’m forty five and I see a man with a woman half his age, I’m still going to think “Get away from her, you creepy old buzzard.” This feels like a only on reddit moment. As a man that walks around with a woman looking half my age [I'm going for the 50-20 look] I mostly see younger women admiring my spouse for getting such a great catch as a 50 year old man. My wife and I are the same age. Hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:40 PM
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A woman doesn’t need to waste her time on an older man who prefers younger women, she wouldn’t bother trying to convince him to give her a chance. She can just go find a different man who fancies her. Older women try things too. We probably don't notice them. But younger women will try to play the youth card for all they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:34 PM
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No. That's not how women work. Someone else dating a guy does not make me go "oh damn that's one less for me!" Women just flat out don't treat each other like that. Women go that's okay I am willing to share. It's more outlandish for us guys than it is for women. But yes women compete for older men. If they can't beat your wife they will join her. I have seen it myself and I wish that I hadn't. Because men are definitely not sharing. That's why it's so disturbing. ​ Just replaceable female units…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:32 PM
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I'm know my limitations. Some guys can't stay off the baddies, I have it for women that do chores. Many guys don't know what feminine viles they are susceptible to. One day they meet their type and they fall for the temptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:27 PM
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From my understanding of US culture, as an outsider, you need to find a community. If you go to a hipster bar you need to be a hipster to fit in. If it's a country bar you need to be into country culture. If it's a college bar you do college culture. On it goes. I would ask you what kind of bar is it and do you fit in with the culture? I understand it as hipster women want hipster men. Country women want country men. Christian people want each other. Do you have a cultural niche that you fit int…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:09 PM
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So why aren’t women much more promiscuous? Because they think sleeping with guys is low key gross. You don't see women talking about guys the way we talk about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:05 PM
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my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:04 PM
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Looks and brains are often crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:03 PM
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But there are examples of affluent men dating women around their age. I know quite a few men like that. It's not uncommon but they met their spouses young.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:01 PM
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So why aren’t women much more promiscuous? Because they think sleeping with guys is low key gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:01 PM
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I don't understand why men get angry for the simple fact that women with different personalities and aspirations in life exist. Nobody is forcing you to date women you dislike. I don't see where this is coming from. I wanted to know if women genuinely think that smarts is going to get them a rich guy. I was told by my mother in law that women think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:57 PM
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Fair enough. But if a woman invests in brains she is automatically disqualified from a part of the rich guy demographic. The guys who want all looks and no brains. I'm under the impression that a lot of women think that rich guys want smart women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:54 PM
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Women. Is it a redpill for you that some rich men prefer looks over brains? If you could go back in time. Would you have invested in your looks instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:27 PM
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But you've said you've spent years and thousands of dollars not doing any of it yourself..... that's deskilling yourself purposefully. I got a homemaker to do things for me. That's what they're for. Sounds more like you're very dedicated to not doing anything. I'm the boss man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:06 PM
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But you've chosen to ensure you can't do fuck all for yourself. I'm fully able to take care of myself. That's a basic life skill. Why would you leave yourself so completely dependent on another person? Because she's very dedicated to being a homemaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:00 PM
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So....you intentionally deskilled yourself and spent that money on absolutely nothing? What are you talking about? My mother was a SAHM. I know how a household is to be run. I was taught so that I would know if my wife did it properly. You can't do what? Have a family with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:53 AM
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You must be blissfully unaware of the financial crisis we’re currently in. Groceries are more expensive but escorts have gotten cheaper. It evens out I think. I’m fine with that, I like my job and I make good money For many women working stops being fun after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:51 AM
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Strong snark. 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:49 AM
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You ..... spent thousands and thousands of dollars and years of your life on this? Fucking hell that's either hilarious or pathetic. It's hard to know. I spent that time and money getting a good wife that will get me through life. Why not men? Because when you have a family you can't do that with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:48 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:47 AM
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I don't need a woman. I want a woman. That is 100 lbs and treats me like the boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:45 AM
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And pay for rent, bills, expenses with what exactly? His income of course. But I don’t want to be home. I’m happiest when I’m out of it, being with friends and loved ones, my job, experiencing new things and travelling Then you'll probably be working for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:44 AM
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You could be home all day doing whatever you wanted. I did it for my wife when we were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:41 AM
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What are you willing to invest in an average 22 year old? Probably not the luxury lifestyle many women imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:36 AM
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Sooo.....she didn't though. You did. You literally wasted a law degree. Why would you do that? Because I wanted her to see the difference between staying home and being a career woman. But it's such a good way to live, right? Why aren't you doing this? Because it's suitable for women. Not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:34 AM
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It's a convenience when done right. But you are correct in that I could do without at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:32 AM
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You realize your bf should be keeping you home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:30 AM
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But you just said you have enough money, yet not enough sense that you forced your wife to go to law school (and obviously she's smart enough to pass) for no apparent reason. That's really not very smart. I figure Some women go to college and realize that it's not for women. Other women go to college, miss the obvious, and go on to ruin their lives. Don't you want to bake and sweep a floor? If the choice was between that and going to work every day. I would be a master baker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:28 AM
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You will regret it. Mark my words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:24 AM
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No she needs to see what school is like so she doesn't get the wrong ideas later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:23 AM
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Don't you want to stay in a kitchen and bake a pie and sweep the floor. My wife says it's a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:21 AM
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They have their uses. Serving drinks, giving backrubs, that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:18 AM
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I wanted her to see what education is all about. now she refuses to leave the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:17 AM
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That's why you get to know the guy and the family before the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:09 AM
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I know women like that and I know where that ride ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:06 AM
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You would be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:05 AM
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I sent my wife to college as a warning example. She didn't want to go. Afterwards she liked it even less. It doesn't matter how old she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:05 AM
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Men that are serious about marriage don't wait for women to finish travelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:02 AM
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I expected a better insult than that. Can I at least be called a virgin neckbeard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:01 AM
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I did law and so did my wife. We both agree our girl is not going to high school. Much less uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:59 AM
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If she is a good wife he will treat her well. Education is an excuse to do inappropriate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:57 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:53 AM
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High school is not for women. They learn at home how to cook and clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:52 AM
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What is she going to do instead? Get used by guys like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:51 AM
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I won't have that. She will marry at 16 with man of my choice. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:48 AM
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What life? Isn't her life about marriage and children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:46 AM
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Why you not arrange marriage with boy from good family? Why is she even leaving the home?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:41 AM
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At the brothels in Germany as a White guy you can negotiate with the girls and get a lower price. Indian guys pay the full price. The girls won't negotiate. I feel for you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:37 AM
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Women have to ornate themselves to pleasure a man, this is certainly not something the average male has to endure. Go outside and look at the women. Men who have spent time with a woman over a long period of time and shared an apartment would have seen the long make-up routines, shavings, and all other fashion to stay competitive amongst other women competitors. My wife owns a razor and a bar of soap. The rest is unnecessary consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:27 AM
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Because I am not gay. This is turning into a strange conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:22 AM
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Listen here lad. Women in our days were not socially awkward like the young women of today. [You were still fat don't get it twisted hags!] If you went to parties you could ask to bang them. Or they would even ask you. Yes this happened. We had girls walking around looking to get laid and getting turned down. [In our defense it was the Champion's League finals and it was being decided on pentalties.] Zoomers are different. They are scared of men and can't maintain eye contact even when you bang …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:09 AM
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Yes I am a grown up. Do I cook? No that's what wives are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:52 AM
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30-Year-Old Boomer is a character spread on 4chan mocking older millennials who enjoy things that are considered to be out of touch with younger millennials, particularly in regards to video games. The phrase generally appears in a greentext story based on a snowclone reading "that 30 year old boomer who X," accompanied by a specific Brainlet Wojak variation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:50 AM
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It's not like she can cook. What else is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:05 AM
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I talk to older generations in my family (Boomer, Genx) and they all say cold approaching is how they got their women. I can't get through to them it's not OK in this day and age. My dad cold approached my mother at a rock concert and my grandfather cold approached my grandma at college. 40 year old Boomer here. I meet Zoomer girls on discord. That's where it's okay to talk. [Loking good ladies!]
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:03 AM
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They pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:57 AM
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Women's youth. They think it's worth far more than we as men are willing to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:46 AM
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She needs to make an effort on her end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:45 AM
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Successful men have big egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:45 AM
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Are you in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:43 AM
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I have something even worse when you're ready for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:42 AM
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PPD Chads. Women overestimate the value of youth. Agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:39 AM
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I couldn't care less about the actual sex. It's the principle of the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:36 AM
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Let's do that. I house her, feed her, and bang her. She fries her brain with tiktok. If she doesn't annoy me she can stick around as long as she stays 100 lbs. Her options. Go to uni, get fat, take on debt, get an office job. Or work in a store, get fat, get used by random guys. No I don't want a woman with an opinion of her own. I want a vapid one that compares herself to other women on Instagram all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:28 AM
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What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:14 AM
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She wants to be home with the children. We would make more money if she worked of course. But we would have to get a nanny and there's no way I wouldn't end up banging the nanny. It's more trouble than it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:13 AM
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I'm traditional. If a woman wants the commitment she needs to be a young virgin. If she doesn't do her job, I don't do mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:09 AM
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My friends experiences are very real, their sugar daddies wanted that ‘experience’ and are literally paying for it. I don’t understand why you find that hard to believe when you are talking about how you enjoy hiring cheap prostitutes?? Getting escorts is so cheap that I don't see why guys bother renting a girlfriend. I know some old guys are into that granted. Which country is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:06 AM
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I am. I'm not offering. Being young and a virgin is the traditional standard for women that want to get paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:26 AM
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She gets to be a SAHM. Most men would ask her to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:24 AM
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Wife unit's family pays them for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:02 AM
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Be an 18 year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:01 AM
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Because women have nothing else that we want. Maybe if they made more money we would be interested in them for that reason. Nah. They need to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:56 AM
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What are us 40+ unemployed guys supposed to do then? We can't get older women, we can't get younger women. You can't blame us for using what we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:49 AM
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I hope those young hookers can profit off you and live their best lives. I have friends who make thousands off men like you, so thank-you for funding their lavish lifestyles (they buy all the girls designer). My friend who looks like a minor (in her 20s) profits the most off men like you, she pretends to be ‘bratty’ as thats what the oldies like to pay for. I live in Europe. The market is very different here. It’s quite common for sugar babies and prostitutes to target rich old men close to deat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:39 AM
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The very same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:34 AM
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It's a temp contract. If she does a good job she can qualify for permanent employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:33 AM
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As an 18 year old who is also tiny (1.5m tall, and weigh 43 kg) I find men who are interested in me a bit pedophilic. Luckily the gods gave me a choice by making me bi so I don’t have to date men 😂. Nice. I think I speak for all men when I say that we approve of women doing each other. Now you are just trolling. 😂 “young women aren’t rejecting us we are rejecting them”. Many young women like the idea of not having to go to college or work ever again. We get such offers mainly from college aged w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:24 AM
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Nah. I think I could string a young woman along for way longer than that. Probably 2-3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:13 AM
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If you don’t want to financially provide for your wife and kids, then don’t get married. Hire a bunch of young escorts or have sugar babies. That is your choice. I wouldn't have gotten married. My wife made me an offer I couldn't refuse. As married men we get both the wife services and the young escorts. We don't need to settle for one or the other. How do you have a wife, but then say this; The wife unit is 100 lbs, good at her job, and promised me a Bentley Continental if I stay with her. In t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:10 AM
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Yes please date women your own age. You will find more happiness and respect there. Hahaha not a chance. I'll fly in 20 year olds from Colombia instead. Younger women will only see you as a geriatric wallet and will wait for you to die. Its such a common joke amongst my friend group that they would old be with an old guy if he’s rich and on his deathbed. Your friend group might be delusional. We're not out here looking for wives. We want some cheap entertainment. Emphasis on cheap. If you are cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:02 AM
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The thing is how many 18 (please don’t let them be younger than that) year olds are gonna go for men old enough to be their dad. We want women that are young and hot. With emphasis on and hot. Most 18 year olds are not hot. They are fatter than my wife. My wife wears clothes for 10 year olds to give you an idea. As experienced men we give young women some slack for the baby fat. But slim is still a must. In other words young women are not rejecting us, we are rejecting them. Because we are bangi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:46 AM
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I see. I didn't know it worked this way. Woman’s RMV/ SMV: youth, beauty, fertility Man’s RMV/ SMV: money Men with money don't buy depreciating assets. Let's say the woman is young for 10 years but she costs you money for 50 years. Only a fool would take that deal. If you don’t have money (enough to SAHM in an UMC community) and are old, then demanding a 20 year old woman to be your life partner is Hypergamy. If you have money, then it isn’t. My wife unit is a SAHM with 4 children. However it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:22 AM
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That I went to a uni with unattractive women. Feels like I wasted years of my life being around ugly girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:05 AM
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I can't wait to be with a woman that sees all my flaws. Clearly the better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:00 AM
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I’m in my 20s and I find it absolutely repulsive when older men hit on me. Unfortunately for them I will absolutely make a scene in public and accuse them of being predators loudly. I’m sorry but no man who’s older than 35+ has 0 reason to talk to me (not including staff, employees etc). I’ve been hit on by older men since I was 12, I find the best solution is to call them out publicly and embarrass them. Most interesting. It seems us older guys must take our business elsewhere then. Thank you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:56 AM
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As a 40 year old man I feel that women over 25 are too old for me. I will make exceptions for hot thots as would most guys. But the average 25 year old woman, nah. It's not mainly due to looks, it's that women over 25 spent their prime years with other men and might want me to be the beta they settle with. Not happening of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:51 AM
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Why do you think this shift is happening? Is it just a phase influenced by the 'Hallyu wave', or does it signify a deeper change in societal values and expectations? Let's dissect this shift and see how it aligns or contradicts with the Red Pill philosophy. Your thoughts? It's women who can't handle real men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:45 AM
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It is in Europe. Despite expanding the definition no trafficked women were ever found. A number of years back the German government launched a huge raid on Artemis in Berlin with the pretext of trafficking. No trafficked women were found and it turned into a big embarrassment. The whole thing went away after that. The operators of the Artemis brothel had launched two lawsuits after police raided the premises in 2016. The city administration has apologized for detaining staff and making prejudici…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:27 AM
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For those who have been married or LTRed for a long time, what have been the key elements for you to find an ideal companion? Her looks and lack of ambition. I'm happy with a pretty thing that doesn't question me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:38 PM
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Good point. Middle Aged men without a career or social status have nothing to offer such women. However the things they do have, maturity, life experience, and their own home are valued by younger women. It feels like older women need to lower their standards to attract men of their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:33 PM
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But do we want to see her naked?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:29 PM
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These two facts leave men in a state of insecurity when they encounter a strong minded, successful career women their same age. Women over 30 are invisible to me. I can't tell you what they look like. Hot thots excluded obviously. Older women don't have anything that most men want. That is they are not hot or fun to be around. Weak, insecure men who want an easy way to influence (control) their relationship understand these two levers aren't available. They then worry they would not have what it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:13 PM
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I believe it’s natural and normal for say 30 percent of men to never find a partner. Then what are 30% of women going to do? Because we are not going into polygamy. Why is it a bad thing that a larger portion of men will miss out than in the future if it’s in line with how we actually work on a natural level, and should we soften the blow by making it clear to men that not all of them are cut out for romantic success and not to “expect” it as a given? The reason why it's bad is that women can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:37 PM
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I didn't mean to strawman you. If you want to debate men selling to women we can do that. There is definitely a market. Men, myself included, don't feel like putting in the work. I have an OF aimed at women myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:33 PM
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How am I spoilt?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:28 PM
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Are you saying men would sleep with fat old women for 200 dollars? Some would. But no way would it be as big among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:11 PM
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I don't think that happens. It's a buyer's market out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:32 PM
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As men if we want money we don't turn to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:11 PM
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It's not a winning move. They could buy their own things and not have to get banged by some guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:08 PM
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I have a great marriage. I have a better wife than I deserve. I don't work for a living. Sometimes I spend all day on the Xbox. I can sleep with other women. I can buy anything I want. It still sucks. As a man you're stuck bossing women and children around. It's low key annoying. And I'm probably the luckiest guy on this sub. I can imagine that for other guys it's a nightmare. Marriage is a duty. It's not meant to be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:09 PM
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But they have their own money. They don't need to blow some guy for a hundred or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:01 PM
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Got any favourite cities? Personally I like Warsaw for the following reasons. Very large selection of girls. Decent response rates. Most girls do outcalls. Many girls speak English. Standard rate is 70 euros. You can get hot girls for 90 euros. Don't pay more! That's the max girls expect to get. If you call for an FFM ask for active duet. Otherwise they don't do stuff with each other. Reasonably cheap city. You get that Eastern Europe feel. At a fast food place you pay 10 euro for a decent meal.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:02 AM
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No way. You still have your normal job, you already want to go on dates sometimes, you just now get sugar payment for letting some milf take you for a fancy dinner, and you get more than 100 euros per meet. All right. I guess I can't believe that some people are that lazy. My respect for women has declined further now. Are escorts really 100 euros there? Where are you? I'm in Northern Europe. But I have a place in Eastern Europe that I use for cheap ass and family holidays. You can get an hour f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:27 AM
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I feel it would be easier to buy my own things instead of trying to sell dick to older women. You're going to make more per hour working for a living. But I get what you're saying. It's easy money. But let's be honest. Coming to my place and getting smashed for 100 euros. There has to be a better way for them to earn money. Even women who aren't selling per se. Trying to get with an older guy for a meal. Are they too lazy to go to the grocery store?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:05 AM
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It's the same thing as far as the experience goes. 20 years married. I know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:02 AM
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Females. Why do so many women try to sell themselves to men in exchange for consumption? They could buy their own meals, trips, or clothes. Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:58 AM
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The change you mentioned regarding ltr's: you development, experiences and changes you gain alongside your spouse, are things sorely missing in today's generations that are obssessed with status or pleasure. Hahaha. Are you serious? Marriage is terrible. You do it because it's a duty not because it's fun. Miss me with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:56 AM
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Companionship with a woman? I don't think so. I think of a relationship as buying an appliance, a wife unit, that does chores for me. Companionship is what you have male friends for. Of the unit cannot do chores it is broken and of no use to me. Paying for a woman to be your friend is idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:50 AM
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They're holding out for better. Get even by dumping them when they get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:49 AM
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Players. It's the end of the month and thots need rent money. Ass is on sale. Luxury VIP girls for 90 euros 🤣 The wife unit is showing me girls and laughing at them. Shout out to the big girls offering the 2 for 1 special! 50 euros per girl. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:33 AM
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Stop making excuses for why you don't look like this woman. She's tall, old, and has a job. If she can manage why can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:25 AM
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Excuses, excuses. Tall women have to work harder. You have tall women saying they're big boned and it's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:43 AM
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Having sex with low-interest/low knowledge partners is a slog. Women are not magically going to be fun lays. You need to show them. 6 kids and trad culture means that most of your future sex will be paid for. Nothing wrong with that. If she wants the trad life then we're having escorts over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:28 AM
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You want some models. Here https://youtu.be/QmMhuZwXRPo Look at her and look at yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:23 AM
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Weak negging. 2/10. At least try a backhanded compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:02 AM
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Porn viewing with a trad-wife coming from an extremely sex-negative culture. If we're going to get to 6 kids as my resident trad wife wants. I have to want to sleep with her. I'm going to go with those people never have sex again after the kid is conceived -for $200 and the game. What is I leave her alone with the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:49 AM
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Oh no you called me out. Darn! I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you independent women on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:46 AM
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The old this other woman is fatter than me argument. Pick a woman that's slimmer than you. Like way slimmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:42 AM
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Am I the only guy here who has ever ordered a woman around? How do the rest of you guys do life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:10 AM
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If she wants to hold out for sex she needs to send a male relative to approach me. That's different. But if she is a woman that gets together with random men I'm not taking her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:06 AM
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Show her the porn you like. Tell her that's what you expect. Problem solved. Women want men to tell them what to do. Try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:59 AM
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It's your job to lose the weight. I'm not going to shame you into it. As for alcohol no one is impressed by a fat drunk woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:52 AM
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Trafficking literally means she crossed a border. The concept is dead in Europe because no trafficked women were ever found despite the best efforts of feminists and the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:48 AM
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You're going to come back fatter than before. There is no shortcut. If you haven't managed so far you probably never will. You like food more than you like looking hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:54 PM
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As long as it's legal I couldn't care less. People don't want to be cleaners either if they have a viable alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:46 PM
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I mean the weight from excercise messes with my perception of my weight loss in the moment. I know I'm fat, it's just the fluctuations that bother me. Like gaining 2 lbs after a work out is distorting everything. So I'm going to stop weighing myself every day. Forget the scale it's a meme. ​ The issue I'm having is that I'm trying to actually get in shape as a way of reducing bodyfat. Also I don't know how to measure my bodyfat percentage, I'm sure it's horrible though. Buy a fat caliper it's 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:43 PM
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I don't obey my wife. That would be like obeying a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:32 PM
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The scale is for amateurs. Start obsessing over body fat. It will make you think twice before every meal. You should cook for your family but not eat the food yourself. Eat something else. Then clean the entire kitchen. It's not water weight. You're fat. You're probably gaining weight. Quit the gym to save money. Eat less to save money. Stop buying food you like. You will save money. Money is part of the reward. You will probably get 100s of dollars for free by losing weight. Right now you are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:27 PM
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For variety you can either pay escorts or do swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:16 PM
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The easiest way to get variety is to pay for it. If she doesn't sleep with you by date 2 dump her. She is not attracted to you and you deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:15 PM
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You need to be very organized. Try to develop OCD if you have to be disordered. Imagine that it's your job and you're being paid to do it. The better you perform the more pay you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:12 PM
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hahaha. She doesn't want to leave the home a lot. But when they're this thin they get cold feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:07 PM
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It's not sexy like an eating disorder. It's boring like chores and counting how much money you save on groceries. That's how very thin women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:02 PM
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You're fat. You're not going to make it. I have lived with a 100 lb woman all my life. Throw out the things you like eating. If you don't have it you can't eat it. Buy food you don't like. Start doing chores. Vacuum the house, mop the floors, do the dishes, carry groceries. You need to stay active as much as possible. Buy a fat caliper. Start obsessing over your body fat. Look at women with less body fat and compare yourself to them. Put on a bikini and look yourself in the mirror. Compete with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:53 PM
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I keep her busy with chores. That's the secret. Cooking, cleaning, yard work. Anything that keeps her on her feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:41 PM
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You get more sex in a relationship. Also more fun sex. Relationship sex gets a bad rep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:36 PM
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As the partner of a very skinny woman. That I have made even skinnier. Do you want to hear my opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:35 PM
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The vast majority of men simply want a girl equally or slightly less attractive than them. This has become extremely challenging, and many men are either being forced to settle or abandoning dating entirely. Why should they be forced to settle? Women aren’t. Women think that men are going to put up with anything. It's delayed adulthood. Women get to play teenagers until 30. On the upside you don't owe women commitment. Also they have to pay their own bills. You can use their income to have a bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:28 PM
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I personally couldn't care less. But I think guys are afraid that Chad is going to take their gf. Random women it's just seethe because they can't get them. Secretly these guys want OF thots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:19 PM
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Undignified to who? To the guy. It's like being taken for a fool. You're supposed to put in effort but you can't tell her what to do. Then you're working for nothing. ​ I see you've been raised and still believe in some values which are incompatible with how most of the west operates, but they're still YOUR values. It's a cultural thing. You can learn it. I taught my wife. Now I'm working on my mother in law. ​ Honor and dignity don't mean a lot to me usually, as it really depends who you're tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:13 PM
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But this is not what this is about anyway - it's about that contrary to popular (male) PPD users, girls expect and accept being approached is part of normal life. Fair enough man. Do any women actually respond positively to being approached by a complete stranger? Basically has this ever worked for anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:46 PM
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But this means based on your genes and early upbringing you can be set up to have a very hard time dealing with rejection before you even have a chance to self improve or get "redpilled". And in a time where dudes need to work more volume than ever to get results that can be a dating life death sentence. Good post. I probably have this rejection sensitivity. But how is a woman supposed to suck up to you if you are the one approaching? It feels like the King approaching the Jester.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:44 PM
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You go back to your home country. Word gets around that you live in the West and women or their families make you offers. You need to be careful because a lot of those women are only after the green card so to speak. But you can always go back and get a new woman. One of my neighbors had this. His wife left him, he went back to Iran and got a new younger one in short order. If you're an immigrant from a second or third world country you will always have this option. Thus when we hit on women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:37 PM
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I don't think you need exposure to it. I guess it depends on the guy. I was outcome independent because I knew I could get women from my home country using my passport. But if I didn't have that option I would take it pretty hard to get rejected repeatedly. I don't see how guys do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:54 PM
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So is his. Both him and her an only swing or if they are alone and in some small town in Missouri. On average. A not average woman can afford it just like a not average man. Guys don't need houses. They're for keeping the woman and the children in. ​ Nope. Since women are the selectors. They guide men on what the correct program is. That’s why men get up at 6 am to provide and then go to the gym after to look strong after all. Most dudes wouldn’t do either if they didn’t think women cared about …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:24 PM
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>Yes she can. She has more money then you, you don’t wanna get up at 6 remember. I don't know the American real estate market. But I heard the median mortgage is around 1500 dollars. The median woman makes around 30-40k per year. She might swing it if she's alone. Might. But if she wants kids, no chance. In the real world if a woman wants the family experience, she will need to get with a man's program. >No you can ask Stacy for sex tonight, but she is only having sex or children with who she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:41 PM
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That doesn't mean less-than-average guys shouldn't hit on women, it just means they shouldn't give a fuck when the response ain't pretty and move on to the next girl. I think that's a recipe for low self esteem. What if the guy gets 100 rejections?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:16 PM
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Yeah, unless she gets her own house. She can't afford her own house. Get real. ​ And women select who gets kids. Women are the ones that want the kids. Their fertile window is limited. ​ Because women select who has sex. I can select to have sex with Stacy by tonight. Women control free sex. ​ Like I said. Men tried to become the buyers through monogamy and economics. It didn’t work Men have always been the buyers. Women need men's resources. For example I have 4 kids. If I walk my wife is alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:10 PM
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This is all a bit convoluted and unhinged. No western government has made it hard for their people to travel to other countries (with the exception of Cuba, Iran, North Korea, etc.). The implications for commerce and tourism would be immense, I said they will ask foreign governments to raise the barriers to entry. As in make it more difficult for foreign men to meet local women. ​ all to stop a "problem" that's not really a problem. It makes no sense. If guys with money or status leave then loca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:03 PM
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Women select which guy gets to sleep with them for free. We select which woman gets the house and the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:54 PM
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It's traditional marriage. I'm the boss and she stands in the kitchen. The way its always been done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:50 PM
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That's lame. Do I have to post to a degenerate sex sub to not be incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:47 PM
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I see. That feels pretty sordid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:11 AM
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My woman was 97 lbs this morning. I am confused. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:09 AM
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I am met with approval everywhere I go. It seems the culture has changed. My wife is older than me so I don't see what your problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:00 AM
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This age gap debate. My wife unit looks like she's 15 years younger than me. I get approval everywhere I go. What is going on here? It's men and women both. I was led to believe this is socially unacceptable. But real life is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:43 AM
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There isn't a grand conspiracy among women to keep rich misogynists from fucking foreigners. Why on earth would anyone care? "One Western woman loses out"? No one cares about some hypothetical poor sucker of a woman who might otherwise have sex with these dudes. Maybe you are spending all your energy on obsessing over "supply and demand" in the "dating market," but most people have better things to do. For many women finding a well off guy is their life plan. When a guy goes abroad that's their …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:24 AM
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It means to obey without complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:15 AM
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Actually maybe you didn’t get the memo that we’re equal. I don't deal with women who want to be equal. Woman have something you want too, remember? At the end of the day porn is free. I can do without. It’s a good thing that young woman laugh at you when you tell them you’re the boss. In 5 years they won't be young anymore. And I will have forgotten them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:12 AM
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I know a guy in Spain that ran away from his wife and 2 kids. No child support of course. Her life is not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:33 AM
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So in this scenario, is the government taking away passports from guys it deems "well off"? What are these Western governments doing to prevent well off men from sleeping with women in other countries. Let's say 100k guys take their business abroad. That's 100k prime age women that get screwed. They're not just going to let guys walk away. They will ask governments in foreign countries to make life difficult for guys that go there. Put a ban on girls advertising like they just did in Spain. Clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:25 AM
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That's the thing. Redpillers bring it up all the time, but the idea of what constitutes "younger hotter better wetter" is pretty subjective and individual to everyone, plus SMV only talks about superficial "hotness" levels and not relationship compatibility levels. I imagine it as weight + compliance. 100 lbs and very compliant = yes. 150 lbs and average compliance = I'll hold out for better. 200 lbs and disagreeable = no way. I think everyone has a pretty good idea of hot or not when it comes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:12 AM
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As long as the women are consenting adults I don't see the problem. For men that is. We both know what the problem is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:08 AM
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Is this a new taboo that I missed the memo on? Since when are men no longer the boss when dealing with women. Have we been officially demoted to purse carriers now? If I have what a woman wants we will be doing things my way. We're not going to be friends and lovers. Again older women don't have this problem. I literally ask them to call me Boss and they comply. Younger women have been taught that it's cute to snark. We as men don't have to put up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:34 AM
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If you can’t deal with women without being “the boss”, you’re a pretty pathetic specimen. If men accept women being passive aggressive, rude, late, non compliant then they have no incentive to change. We're not going to win them over with kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:27 AM
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Women's problem is when their degree of selectivity gets out of control so that they ignore options that would still make them happy while chasing dreams that they have no chance of getting. What can you do? You can't force them. They will come around once they hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:58 AM
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Normies is a meaningless term. There's no special club. There's definitely a normie culture. Coercing is what a creep thinks is a different word from forcing Dude, if Western women don't want the average guy, you either coerce them or go away. It doesn't have to be force. Incentives are coercive too. I'm arguing guys should stop complaining and shaming. Just go away but do it quietly. Like a bum sneaking off in the night. Women in developing countries don't think they have to please a man and ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:52 AM
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I'm just saying men shouldn't aim at banging everything they can as some path to happiness. But women can, and do. So why shouldn't men? There is more to life sure. But let guys have some fun. It's not harming anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:39 AM
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So basically they are doing their jobs? Hideous! We both know a Karen would try to stop an older guy from bringing in a younger woman. Luckily it seems the courts have stepped in. But I think we can see where this is heading. We are however somewhat removed from your claims in your first post though aren’t we? My claim is that no one cares if bums leave the Western dating market. They do care if successful guts leave because there are not enough to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:37 AM
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Foreign countries have sovereignty over their own territory. They'll just threaten to cut their foreign aid money if they don't comply. Happens all the time. Who do not care about you or your foreign sex life. Get over yourself. Every guy who goes the passport route means one Western woman that loses out. They don't are if the guy is a bum. But if he has money or status it's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:33 AM
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Come on dude. No one is asking women to give up what they want. Women have been encouraged for decades. It's a double standard and you know it. I'm not asking for teenagers. I'm asking for the woman to be thin, happy and horny. Do you see many women like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:28 AM
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I'm not that old I'm 40. Here's the thing. The women older than me are fine. They know who the boss is. But they are old and it's sad to sleep with women older than yourself. The young ones have poor attitudes. They are passive aggressive and rude. I think the culture among young women in the West is not so good. In Europe we can get women for cheaps if we want to. It's not like the US. But the service isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:23 AM
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There is no age requirement as such, however, when an applicant is much younger than their Australian partner there is a requirement to show that the relationship between them is legitimate and this will flow through to showing the case officer that the applicant’s intentions in coming to Australia are legitimate. Remember, if you fail to prove your intentions then you will not get the visa. I would say that where there is a significant age difference there is a slightly higher burden of proof. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:14 AM
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I'm neither on tiktok or instagram. Or any social media. I'm old and I have been married longer than most people. I'm at the age where women hit on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:51 AM
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As men we are far behind women in this game. We are only at the beginning of men going after what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:48 AM
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Dude, I'm the buyer. They need to convince me. Furthermore I'm not getting up at 6 in the morning and going to work all day just to get some ass. That's too much work for what you get. If the girls were hot I might do it. But for what is currently on offer I don't have the motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:45 AM
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You know the nonsense about women getting looser vaginas because of sex is not scientific, right? It's about the pelvic floor I know. By which legal mechanism could they possibly prevent it? They'll go after the girls in the destination countries. Close the brothels and ban advertising. Now everyone is on the street or in private apartments. That raises the barries to entry for foreign guys. And if you think government policymakers care whether you fly to Thailand to have sex with consenting adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:39 AM
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They call up the other country's government and offer them foreign aid if they close close down their sex industry. Or ban girls from advertising like they just did in Spain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:29 AM
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They might cheat but not for sex. I know women that have cheated. They either thought the other guy was exciting or he was courting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:24 AM
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What is more likely. She is a horny MILF that seduces younger men. Or she is an insecure older woman trying to make her husband jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:21 AM
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men is not a synonym for players It's to indicate that I'm not addressing normies. "Forcing women" is a very sketchy way to handle anything in your relationships Let's call it coercing then. The idea that you can only get good sex overseas is bonkers. Sounds like a you problem Women in developed countries don't think they have to please a man. Or agree to what he wants. the way a pornography obsessed virgin might be I am not a porn obsessed virgin. Cheap shot. "Western Governments" do not give a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:14 AM
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Why didn't you just say men should get their passports or something simple like that, you didn't have to ramble on. Because that's only half of it. The other half is to stop complaining about women. We need to start agreeing that it's men job to meet women's standards. All in all, most western countries don't care about passport bros, white males in America have been going to Thailand for sex, It was old married or divorced guys that already contributed to society. It wasn't young guys who might…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:06 AM
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If they don't want us they can't complain. But all right. Then we'll have to play the coomer card. What woman wants a pervert to court her? It's better for Western women if we take our degeneracy abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:14 PM
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I think it means the man has to pay if he wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:06 PM
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It seems I didn't get my thread approved. So I will post it here. Men need to lose the psychological battle Players. The way I see it there's a battle for women's right to be picky and a battle for ass. You can win one but not both. The psychological battle is about men living up to women's standards or women lowering their standards to what men can realistically do. Forcing women to lower their standards is at best going to get you reluctant intercourse. More likely no intercourse at all. But y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:04 PM
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Do they mention hot guys specifically? Otherwise it's most likely rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:26 PM
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She knows this. So she tries to make him jealous. It's a game some women play.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:52 PM
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He's selling PUA bullshit. Unsurprisingly it landed him in jail. Should be a lesson to all his followers. PUA is over and your behind will go to jail if you mess around. When the government comes after you it's time to quit.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 06:33 PM
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I can go to a club next Halloween and bang some guy's wife. I have seen married women in these situations. They're not looking for young hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:29 PM
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But if they liked looks so much they would go out and court hot guys. Doesn't happen. Do women have strategies for how to get hot guys? Doesn't happen. Until I see real effort I'm going to file it under general bitchiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:26 PM
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Women don't seek out sex that way when they are single. They have much less reason to do so when they are married. Some women are dumb or crazy I'll give you that. But your average married woman is not looking for sex that way. I would know because I've been to swingers clubs. It's married women galore if that's your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:20 PM
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Why would they do that? Women cheat to trade up. A younger guy is not a step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:12 PM
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There is no data to back this up. Women cheat at the start of a relationship. Not after many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:10 PM
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That's based on asking women. The idea that women go out and cheat because ovulation is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:16 PM
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They're saying that because they're afraid we'll pick foreign women. They're very insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:10 PM
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A majority of women cheat for sex? Give the porn a rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:08 PM
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She was negging her higher status husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:07 PM
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There is no proof that they do. It's speculation. When women are asked they say all sorts of things. Real life is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:06 PM
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It shows the level of investment in the guy. It doesn't cost anything to swipe or have sex. How about they offer paying his bills for the rest of his life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:02 PM
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I haven't followed the drama. Did she actually leave her husband for the younger guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:01 PM
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Which country?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:57 PM
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Do women get down on one knee and propose to hot guys from dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:55 PM
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Women don't cheat for sex. Come on dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:54 PM
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When was the last time you saw a female public figure leave her husband to be with a young or hot man who is broke? Men give up half of their wealth in divorce just to get a younger woman. Men get fired from their jobs for sexually harassing women that are usually younger than them. Politicians caught in sex scandals are usually men involved with young or hot women. Women divorce men all the time. But almost never to get with a hot guy. Women don't offer to pay in order to date hot guys. The lis…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:50 PM
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I'll bite. Women don't leave their men for younger and hotter guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:33 PM
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It works like this. I'm the boss and I make the rules. She can either be with me while I sleep with other women. Or she can be without me and I sleep with other women anyway. I'm not letting my wife unit decide over my sex life. That's unmanly. I think that sleeping with other women creates competition and encourages the women to try to outdo each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:54 PM
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I don't want to settle for an average looking woman. I want a woman I can be proud of. I don't see how it's hostile. I think if you allow your wife to gain weight you're making her miserable. Women want to feel good about their looks. I think a lot of guys who let their wives get fat are afraid that she would leave them if she looked better. You didn't answer my question. If you could press a button and become 100 lbs instantly. Would you still choose to be 140?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:20 PM
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Women don’t want a man to weigh them, monitor our diets, and threaten divorce us if we aren’t slim. But they want to be thin. This is what it takes to stay thin. We want a man who loves us at any size If I don't get a thin woman then what's in it for me? She stays thin and I stay with her. It's not a high standard as such. 100 lbs is quite low and I would personally prefer to stay around 130 or 140 lbs my whole life. Would you really choose 140 over 100?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:09 PM
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Not at all. I don't see what's shocking. Don't all women want to be slim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:58 PM
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That's what it takes to be 100 lbs as a mother of 4. Other women can only dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:56 PM
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Of course it's work. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:53 PM
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Can she be both loving and hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:11 AM
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Most women aren't interested in men who talk about them or treat them like they are goods and services. It's not about what a woman offers or about what a man offers. It's about what they enjoy sharing together. Women usually don't enjoy sharing things with short, unemployed guys like me. But once money is on the table they discover that I have a great personality. It's funny how that works. Men enjoy hot women. Women enjoy a nice lifestyle. It's how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:08 AM
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For sex. Maybe a meal. Financing that woman's retirement is a harder sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:48 AM
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It's hard to find a nanny to 4 children. Especially if they are small. You can't just get one. And if you do get one, the children get attached, and they get sad when she leaves. I know people that have nannies. They stay for a year on average. My wife is a chef herself and doesn't want people in her kitchen. If you have a maid you are also an employer. It's additional work. It's a privilege for a woman to get to stay home with her children. Hundreds of women would trade with her in anstant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:05 AM
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So your argument is “why would I divorce” but then you follow up with an example of a guy who got divorced. He is a warning example to the men around him. If he got divorced and ended up with a single mother why would other guys do the same thing? That's how most divorced guys end up. If I divorce my wife I would have to walk up to a woman and casually mention that I'm a single dad of 4 kids. Most women are not going to jump on that. And your argument is that your wife stays in shape but what if…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:54 AM
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She does the laundry at night. Let us consult scripture on this matter. Also God said to the woman, I shall multiply thy wretchednesses and thy conceivings; in sorrow thou shalt bear thy children; and thou shalt be under (the) power of thine husband, and he shall be lord of thee. In other words that's what women do. They have babies. Yes it's hard but that's life. The sooner you get used to it the better. Women who settle in their 30s have it harder. Because they have to learn the skills that ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:17 AM
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The early 20s girls right now are Zoomers. Need I say more?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:44 AM
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I admit I am too insecure to handle a real woman with a mom bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:15 AM
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As a man you see other men divorce and you see the outcome. Most divorced men are not cool bachelors that have great lives. They get together with a new woman that also has kids. And do the same thing all over again. Only with more kids and very awkward Christmas get togethers. I know this guy. Who thought divorce was a great idea. He has 3 kids. His new woman has 2. Now they have a custody schedule with different amounts of kids every week. I know sometimes he ends up with all 5. He could have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:09 AM
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Why would I divorce? That's the strangest argument. She's a good homemaker after 20 years of practice. She's good with the kids. She stays in shape. I'm not going to leave that to do what? Get someone younger? I could move in a younger woman and my wife wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:08 AM
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My infertile looking woman has more children than 90% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:51 AM
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Red pill men are misleading young women and trying to scare them into settling down young. It is ONLY is advantageous to men if you do this as a women. They get to have you during your youth make you pop out kids for them and then they can ditch you when your looks fade and the kids get annoying. My wife met me at 16. Now she's home full time with our 4 children. She will never work again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:21 AM
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If they acknowledged that the abundance of advances they received, the vast majority of which are to use them for sex and not because they were desirable, was the direct cause for their inflated “standards” then their self images and consequently standards would reflect this. I was there before dating apps and women were picky back then as well. Not as picky as they are now but still delusional. Honestly it was the best thing that ever happened to us. Because we as men ended up with quite a bit …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:45 AM
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Madam, I'm not going to lower my standards because of a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:22 AM
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I think it's better for us now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:03 PM
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I see men together with older women all the time. I can't imagine being in their shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:02 PM
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Whilst it may be a bit of a cold plunge shock for modern man, her freedom to reject you and not feel pressure to “love” or have sex with you is indicative of social progress, and if you’re suffering for that it may be time to self reflect and check yourself It was always a better bargain for women. We'll see how they like it once men reject them for being old. That's lifting the oppression on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:40 PM
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I haven't had time to read them. But that's what my doc told me. And what I have seen myself. At the end of the day no one is being forced to be lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:27 PM
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Again, your experience is of just one person. You can still learn things from that. And I refer you to what I said previously: low body fat does not guarantee amenorrhea. It is a cause of it. I don't believe that it is. I think it's the nutrition. I asked my wife's doc and he said the same thing. Women get it from poor nutrition. Have a good meal plan and it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:05 PM
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But for 5 years straight. You learn things along the way. She delivered 2 children in that time. I had to get her through the pregnancies and then get her body back. After 12 months she was back to 12% every time. I have seen a woman have a lean pregnancy. Bounce back. And then do it all over again. No doctor has seen that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:57 PM
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I have actual experience. Including some blood testing. Everything checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:40 PM
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I have been doing hookers on steroids all this time. Why did I not think of this??? I don't work for a living so I could do this all day. Finally a reason to put on pants. Many thanks bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:37 PM
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I have to read the studies before I can comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:28 PM
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Nice! I would have been all over that. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:27 PM
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That's neither lean nor defined. That looks like 30% body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:21 PM
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No disrespect but are you bisexual ? None taken. I have a bit of an objectification fetish. That's why I need a woman to be an attractive object. But I have no interest in men. Every guy I know who has had a preference for very masculine looking women like that has also been into feminine men I like slightly androgynous but still female. https://youtu.be/0EWnPG_yKYk I don't like them too feminine. The picture you showed isn’t just lean and well defined, I’m pretty sure she’s on test or just natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:20 PM
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I will read the study later. I am sceptical because I have seen my wife do this for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:12 PM
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Props! Did she maintain? Which division? If you're comfortable sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:11 PM
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She's not his, it's just his turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:51 AM
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That's freaky. But I think it only happens to women who take a lot of testosterone. I have slept with women on testosterone and they were fine. I'm not interested in muscular women specifically. Will still bang them obviously. My fetish is for the small and skinny ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:42 AM
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This is not accurate. You will have to link the studies. I have real life experience with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:27 AM
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It sounds like a side effect of steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:02 AM
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As long as the face isn't too bad then yes. I can't with bigger women they look like men to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:43 AM
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I think she looks feminine. Small size is feminine to me. I guess over time you get used to seeing more or less ripped women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:24 AM
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I don't believe you. My wife is very lean, though not as lean as the woman in the video, and she never had issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:06 AM
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I never see other guys talking about it. It's always butts this and booty that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:34 AM
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Trust me bro you are going to laugh at yourself for wanting to fuck regular girls. Here is something you can do. Rent a girl and take her to a mall or restaurant. Look at all the suckers that signed away their life to be with women that are less hot than you can rent. They got it for free and look at them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:37 AM
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Hookers are the luxury option. Regular women are for guys who like waste their time. After the first time I fucked a hooker I remember looking at regular women and thinking I can get much better for 90 euros. I'm never doing regular women again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:27 AM
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It depends on what you want. What do you want? Be honest with yourself. I live in 3 different countries. I don't get what I want just because I have a passport. For example I like them skinny, hot and dumb. So I don't go to colleges that are filled with smart girls. Are you going to deal with regular women or sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:10 AM
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Am I the only one who likes lean and defined women? It feels like all other guys are into big butts. Explain yourselves. For example the woman at 3:40-4:30 in this video. https://youtu.be/cVHftZfq0D0 She looks amazing. How am I supposed to want average thots after seeing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:41 AM
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If you're poor you get to date fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:58 AM
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I imagine it as that the wife unit says no to anal. I print the divorce form and fill it out. Then I hand it to her and tell her to leave. After that I call stripper Stacy, who I know does anal, and have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:53 AM
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What does that mean? I think women should be free to do whatever they want. And in return I don't have to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:46 AM
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It's more likely that she slept with multiple guys and then decided to settle down with a sucker. If she doesn't save herself for marriage what makes you think she has self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:24 AM
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I can't imagine marrying a woman who is not a virgin. I don't know how other guys live with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:36 AM
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How would most women feel about being on the receiving end of divorce papers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:34 AM
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I think they have the idea that men don't have any standards. Therefore it's enough to be a woman and you can date or marry up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:44 PM
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I can offer a position as second plow girl for 10 dollars a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:18 PM
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Who complains about being Middle Class??? In my country I can get a house without running water for next to nothing. My wife can do laundry down by the river and milk the goats.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:14 PM
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The plan is when the youngest one starts school. You're probably going to change your mind once you have kids. Members of my extended family, some parents of my friends etc If you want to work two full time jobs then go ahead. Would you ask a man the same question? Because the child will also have a father, you know? I would tell a man to get a woman that is dedicated to running the home and raising the kids. And I know multiple female lawyers, judges, notaries and university professors who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:53 PM
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You can't imply that you're buying her. In Nordic countries it's seen as having ulterior motives. You don't need to pay so if you choose to there's something wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:19 PM
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In the Nordic countries you have sex. Then you do things together but it can be anything. It's not formal dating of any kind. The expectation is that you split. Paying for a woman is seen as inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:16 PM
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Sex first. Dating in the American sense doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:09 PM
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With the risk of having the Balkan bros come in and argue with me. The Balkans is not a culture, it's a state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:07 PM
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I'm not going to stick to the same woman all my life. That's unmanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:45 PM
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Her family confirmed that she was a virgin. They would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:43 PM
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My guy stop Fucking capping. Why would she put up with you cheating if she has family money? She can leave, take half your shit (more if she finds out you tried to commit fraud and hide assets) and have you in the hook for child support. While still having her family money. Because of culture M'lady. In my country we say the woman must kiss the man's hand. We don't do divorces. You’re lying. Trad women also DO NOT pay for men. That’s the whole point of being trad. Any money you get is yours, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:42 PM
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Family money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:27 PM
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Maybe you’re a programmer that got lucky in the bitcoin/crypto craze, but even then, no woman is willingly putting up with you weighing her daily. It just does not happen. You’re either hot enough to have no need to do this, or you’re not hot enough to get away with doing it. Or maybe I got lucky in real estate. Does it matter? Either way, there is no trad woman on this earth that’s letting herself be weighed and measured daily by her husband who is also cheating. If you’re not lying, you probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:25 PM
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This is quite tiresome. A woman is entitled to marriage and children. A man is entitled to cheat now and then. It keeps everyone happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:15 PM
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Nah dude. You’re actually lying. There’s no way a trad wife is letting you fuck other women while she’s out doing labor in the kitchen. Especially if she’s skinny, she would just leave you for a richer man that will pay for a maid and a chef. A rich guy is going to take on a woman with 4 children by another man and hire her a chef. You're joking? He wouldn’t waste money getting a body composite done. Not would he save the results online. These things are important to me. You’re lying and making …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:06 PM
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Yes... a man being heterosexual and liking skinny women. That has never happened before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:53 PM
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Yes? I need her to be hot. It's a trend among skinny girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:51 PM
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This morning she was 43.7 kg which is 96 lbs. I weigh her daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:50 PM
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The wife unit wants 6 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:44 PM
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I can write down the numbers. Arms 14% Legs 19% Trunk 11% Android 8% Gynoid 25% Total 14% You can see that total body fat is 14%. But that's because there is a lot of fat on the butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:41 PM
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Does she know she is just a sex toy with a pulse? There is a lot wrong with that....poor woman. Being a married sex toy is a privilege. That comes with job security. She could be in the streets together with the less fortunate women. So she defies science? 🤣. Btw my mom was 5'5 and 105lbs. She was extremely thin and actually underweight with very little body fat. So you are saying 9lbs less with more than double the body fat for the same height. Again, science bud. I posted the data in my other …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:30 PM
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You can easily hide your assets. She can get a new cock but good luck getting a new hubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:28 PM
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I'm not looking for the average woman. I want the gym thot from the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:26 PM
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She doesn't have 20% body fat overall. I wrote that thighs and butt are 20-25%. I have all the measurements here https://i.postimg.cc/NfNnp1wt/1687270830789-1687270823087-1687270773988-20230620-161550.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:22 PM
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I literally have proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:04 PM
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So she is just a pretty thing to have around and have sex with? Because that isn't love. What's wrong with that? Well i posted the official calculations for you, so she is definitely not average height. 5'5 is within average range.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:04 PM
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Then she is NOT average height. Which means you have been purposefully misleading just for the sake of arguing. She is 5'5 and 96 lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:52 PM
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Just for fun would you take one for her? No I'm not a simp. And this isn't about if she would be willing to die to save you. You are literally saying she has to sacrifice her health daily and long term so that you can have an unhealthy level of thin. If she is healthy and normal weight then she doesn't respect or love you?! I don't think it's unhealthy to be thin and there's no proof that it is. For argument's sake the answer is yes. I don't want a mediocre woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:50 PM
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Women pay too if they are less attractive than the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:47 PM
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Sex is never free. One party always compensates the other somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:44 PM
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I'm not American and I don't work for a living. It's always weekend for me. I'm still not taking some woman to a museum. Maybe a cooking museum. I will take her to a gym to see her work out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:28 PM
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My wife is 96 lbs right now. She still has 25% fat on her butt and 20% on her thighs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:24 PM
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Absolutely. I'm not doing life with a woman who wouldn't take a bullet for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:22 PM
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Because a lot of guys are betas who put up with it. If you threaten to leave the woman she will do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:21 PM
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Unless you’re a show pony flaunting your wealth posing in Versace shirts and sports cars which I would never do anyway then how would anyone even know? Wear a suit. Go to places where people spend money. Malls, restaurants, boutiques. Women will assume that you have money. Those who want your money will chat you up. And I realise women who are looking for more than sex often end up being lied to and hurt but it seems like the slightly better of two problems, although they have to worry about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:12 PM
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Online dating makes dancing monkeys out of decent men, as if they’re court jesters vying for the attention of the Queen who can send them back to flea bottom at the flick of her wrist. Or at least that’s the mould you’re expected to contort into. Make some money and women will be jesters for you. That's all there is to it. She is comparable to me in looks and has put no effort into her profile, yet she matches with basically any guy she swipes on, and gets messaged. She even has a professional s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:39 AM
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3/10 would not bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:11 AM
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My wife bought me my house. She will also be buying me a car. It's easier when you're two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:05 AM
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I think that's a meme. You will probably have more sex if you're married. The woman will be more comfortable with you and she gets a lot of value out of you. You also have the leverage of leaving. Guys who don't get laid with their wives are weird somehow. The downside is that it's boring to sleep with the same woman all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:50 AM
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I think it's feminine when a woman is really thin. I also like the idea that she works hard to look attractive for me. It shows dedication and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:38 AM
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It's not under eating to maintain low body fat. I feel that women with higher body fat look soft and pudgy. That's not attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:28 AM
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High value men have things to do. Or places to be. They don't have time to go on excursions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:28 PM
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That makes no sense. If you have 30 lbs of body fat or 50 lbs that doesn't make a difference for nutrition. You don't have to eat excess calories to be healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:26 PM
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If I could choose between a woman who would just come over and a woman who wanted to date, I would choose the easy option even it was worse. Once you experience one or more easy women, dating seems boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:22 PM
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Do you guys think this casts a bad shadow on good women and women worthy of relationships? For me definitely. I used to think that there were good girls that you marry and bad girls that you sleep with. Now I see it as hot girls you can rent and ugly girls who seethe because they can't make money on OF. I don't believe in good girls anymore. That doesn't mean I would marry a communal girl. But I wouldn't marry a good girl either. To be honest I low key look down on women who are not on OF now. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:07 PM
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Women can just tell. I don't know how they do it. Women who see the value will try to lock you down before anyone else gets the chance. If they don't get there first they will offer to share. They don't mind. I once had a woman try to impress me with her scholarship while my wife travelled 2 hours to get into my bed. Needless to point out who won that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:59 PM
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I'm not talking about strangers from apps. I'm talking about acquaintances or people that you see regularly. There is some prior knowledge of the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:50 PM
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Fair enough. Now imagine an average woman surrounded by food all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:48 PM
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Skinny doesn't automatically mean malnourished. It means less fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:43 PM
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I imagine that if a guy is high value enough then women are going to want to lock him down as soon as possible. Maybe not all women but those who are more forward. I'm married since many years back. I've never had relationships. I just picked a girl and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:19 PM
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If a woman says that she doesn't want to settle for a husband that doesn't work that's socially accepted. To me personally a woman over 110 lbs is like a man that works as a janitor to women. It's low status. Also unlike employment or income body fat is entirely within women's control. The janitor can't decide to become a CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:13 PM
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I see it as that I put in the effort to be a good husband. And she puts in the effort to have a good body. I think that's more than fair. Because I can rent a hot body easier than she can rent a good husband. I am already cutting the wife unit a lot of slack. I don't need to tolerate excess weight on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:04 PM
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I mean when they already know each other. I've never experienced app dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:58 PM
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You guys who want to date. Do you realize that if a woman likes you she will come over to your place? Or invite you to hers. If a woman wants to date you then she's not really attracted to you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:51 PM
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If she liked him for real she would have paid for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:41 PM
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Hahahah not the guy. The gym Stacy. Her name is Layla Pollock https://youtube.com/shorts/oeWrhlyD1ko?feature=share
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:30 PM
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My new Stacy crush https://youtu.be/9L2ne7L3tMs Does anyone know her ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:01 PM
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It's an incentive for women to self-improve. If they put in the work for a few years they can have a nice family. You can't expect guys to settle for women that make no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:51 PM
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Why? I thought women are supposed to want the guy to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:48 PM
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I don't have issues. I'm a great husband. The guy other women low key wish they were married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:07 PM
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My wife is nagging me to get a younger girlfriend because she is about to expire. Why are women like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:01 PM
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I see. Is it a femdom thing? Or some other fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:47 PM
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Sticking around with a wife and kids meets the decency threshold. Asking for more than that is pushing it. Because we have the option of leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:46 PM
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That's right. Soon all the guys here will be Stacy only.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:43 PM
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No offense. But what did you see in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:39 PM
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I don't know who pays for that. In my book that's what wives do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:36 PM
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There is nothing low morals about building a family. It's a pillar of the community thing to do. Expecting men to be saints while doing it is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:19 PM
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How did you get played by an ugly woman? Was a true love mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:16 PM
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It's a lot harder to not be a cheap loser as a man than to be nice to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:15 PM
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I was rated 3-4/10 on reddit. The trick is to find women who are a bit crazy. They look past your flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:06 PM
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When it comes time to marry and real money is at stake most men settle for cheaper and less attractive women. Look at the average guy's car, wife, clothes. They prefer mediocre things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:57 PM
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But I also see a lot of guys totally delusional in their choice of women and what they think is a normal level of attractiveness. It sounds obvious and like it should go without saying, but if you don’t have money, are overweight, or lack social skills, why would you actually think a girl who is nice, healthy and pretty would want to be with you? I am below average and got a woman above average. Because she likes me as a person. There is always a chance that you can punch above your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:54 PM
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Because they don't want to pay the markup to get a hot woman. Most men settle for women who are overweight and cheaper. They might trade their wife for you if the cost is the same. But they are not going to pay a substantially higher price.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:46 PM
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I am not cheap. I am paying market price. I hope you realize that the men you are trying to gold dig are aware of their options as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:44 PM
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You mean ugly women who are very smart and trick men? That sounds like something out of a movie? Any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:39 PM
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Can I ask what you think you have a chance at? The regular guys who are not broke, cheap and gross are not going to wait for you to finish being a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:36 PM
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Not from attractive guys. Girls also pay if they want someone above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:23 PM
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Not hot. Boring. Poor attitude. I could go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:21 PM
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I can't help what I am attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:20 PM
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I am not. But I am willing to provide the large family experience. That's something women value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:17 PM
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The gold diggers I know met their husbands in college. I don't know about other cases. One met her husband while working at an embassy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:13 PM
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It's not my girlfriend, it's my wife of 20 years. There are countries where 15 euros is a lot of money. I could fly there next week and get a woman 20 years younger who would be very grateful if I spent 15 euros on her. Why would I spend more when I don't need to? If I'm going to spend money on a woman I want the best deal I can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:04 PM
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Because even the women who make it usually lose big in the end. What happens is they get dumped, or leave, and end up alone and poor. The women who don't make it end up settling for a regular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:32 PM
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are you the one that spends 15 euros on your child size gf and she’s supposedly super grateful? If she wasn't grateful I wouldn't spend those 15 euros on her. i mean, i respect your opinion and thank you for the reality check. i did ask all men, so okay i guess. but ur not really giving advice, ur just being negative. i don’t think our values align so idk how much i can really trust your advice, but i really appreciate it. The advice is to be very skinny, well behaved, and agree to unusual sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:27 PM
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We're talking children's department skinny. Be well behaved. This is the secret. We can get women with good bodies easily. But finding a woman who is both hot and well behaved is almost impossible. Sex parties, orgies, threesomes. Not everyone, but yeah. Then you need to actually meet the right type of guy. Not all guys with money want gold diggers. It's also a saturated market. The women I know got in a long time ago. Now thanks to social media there are a lot more women trying to do this. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:14 PM
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Because the gold diggers I know met their men in college. Almost all of them actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:54 PM
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Because the gold digger market is a lot smaller than you might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:53 PM
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We are telling people to wait to marry later and later, and then they ask themselves why don't they have options anymore. They do get a job and college degree but find themselves lonely in their 30s trying to date after 8 hours of work. That is not very nice. I think the idea is for women to wait until men are settled before committing to them. A 30 year old man has a lot more assets than a 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:49 PM
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Most guys are cheap and want it for free. Based on personal experience I can say that you get what you pay for. It's usually free for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:44 PM
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Does Andrew Tate say that? What a simp! The guy dies so his girlfriend can bang another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:37 AM
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Look hot. That's number one for me. Other than that I appreciate cool experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:35 AM
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Have you considered becoming a wife? I heard some women do that. It's like being a gold digger but you don't need to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:32 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:31 AM
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Based on my personal observations. Be short, blonde, and very skinny. Most gold diggers are not very bright though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:30 AM
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It is in Europe. There are doctors who write them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:19 AM
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That's why you get a virginity certificate from a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:16 AM
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No it's not. Trust me. Maybe if you have 3 calm girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:14 AM
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Andrew Tate is crazy and he is selling snake oil to losers. Fair enough. Once men realize that whatever he says doesn't work they will move on. It's like the PUA thing from 10 years ago. Men laugh at it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:06 AM
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It doesn't matter how you spin it. Biology is what it is. If men wanted long lasting happiness they would have no interest in Andrew Tate. Men watch Andrew Tate because they want what he has. If you don't want men to watch him then you need to offer them something better and you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:58 AM
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I wouldn't necessarily label women as prizes. Because they are not if we are to be honest. And you're looking at the "prize" from the wrong angle - it can be a stable relationship, someone to root for you through thick and thin, laughters, cries, and everything in between. If the woman was rooting for me through thick and thin I wouldn't have to self improve first. She would accept me as I am. I understand your argument as that I should get a good job, get in great shape, dress well and then I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:48 AM
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Most fathers are simps. They don't have sports cars and girls. Men want to sleep with attractive women. That's biology. What do you think we should do about that? Men are not going to change. If it wasn't Andrew Tate it would be someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:37 AM
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Meaning, if you dedicate time on improving yourself (looksmaxxing, learning high income skills, getting your diet, exercise and sleep in check) you can easily jump leagues above ordinary guys. It is what it is, men were always the chasers, and us living in a world that is connected more than ever before means women have a larger pool of chasers to play with, easily find more suitable ones and discard the rest. If you don't play the game you automatically lose. And what is the prize for all of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:30 AM
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Correction, this is the worst part. All the bootlicking young men parroting the same shit. It seems like these young men didn’t have anyone to look up to when growing up and that’s why they turned to these “life coaches” and now are unable to make their own judgement. What role models do you think that young men should have instead? Andrew Tate is popular because he offers something to young guys who are insecure. Maybe start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:16 AM
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When a wife submits to her husband in the very traditional sense (which you are advocating for) he is her boss forever, at all moments, until she dies. There is no escape, she has someone controlling her and having the final say over her life until either of them die. But as the boss you can't fire the wife when she gets older. I believe that lifetime job security makes people complacent. Additionally what value would us men get out of bossing a 60 year old woman around? Not to mention that many…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:04 AM
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For the sake of simplicity I would say that 95 lbs qualifies as perfection. 110 lbs qualifies as attractive. 120 lbs is what I would be willing to settle for if she had other qualities to make up for it. This assumes average height. Not all men. Most guys will be fine with heavier girls. But I'm a manlet so I need a girl that won't crush me in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:47 AM
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For example I always liked Maseratis. Other guys like Ferraris. But nobody brags about ther Kia. If you're driving a Maserati and your neighbour drives a Kia you know he's seething. If I can't have a Maserati I would rather take the buss. Paying for a Kia is embarrassing to me. Every guy has a different idea of best. For me the best is super skinny, for other guys it's a fuller figure. In any case she needs to make other guys seethe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:37 AM
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I am unemployed and not looking. No driver's license or car. Regular patron of venues of ill repute and depravity. Very controlling. It's my way or no way. Is there anything I can do to become even less appealing? Within reasonable limits. I am also short and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:49 PM
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I use her to vet the girls. A woman will know other women's intentions better than any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:41 PM
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A trophy wife is a woman that is attractive that's why she is a trophy. She is so attractive that you show her of like a prize that you have won. Look guys I won this hot woman. The fact that I'm broke makes it a bigger win because she's not with me for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:30 PM
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A trophy wife is a woman that is hot. Not someone that is fat but you spend a lot of money on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:25 PM
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My wife comes from money. They think these things are cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:21 PM
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She doesn't want more. She even thought it was too expensive. She wants me to spend the money on myself. I did buy her a haircut thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:16 PM
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Feels bad man :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:12 PM
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That's where trophy wives and gold diggers shop. Adult sizes are too big for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:08 PM
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My wife is too small for victoria secret. She gets to shop a the children's section. It saves me a lot of money. The last shirt I bought her is size 146 and I paid about 15 euros. I think that is for a 10 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:00 PM
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Your friend probably doesn't care what you think. We both know I have higher rank than him because I have a hotter wife. Men also tend to view their perpetually single friends as losers. Not at my age. If you're single it's assumed that you're sleeping with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:42 PM
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But I do. I have friend who has an ugly wife. I think less of him for it. I wouldn't want that to happen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:36 PM
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It's not cheating if my wife is in on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:33 PM
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Does money come up like an interview question during the date? They look at you and think he probably has money, I should try to talk to him. I don't date. But in casual conversations they will try to find out where you live, what you work with, and try to size you up that way. You will both be aware that it's a pay to play deal. I personally turn them down because 10 years ago they would have turned me down. But I'm sure other guys take some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:28 PM
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In the market for a fun thot. Not another wife, I already have one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:24 PM
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What do you guys mean specifically when you say it gets easier for men as they get older? Women assume that you have money and start hitting on you to get some of it. Last week I had a woman follow me around the mall in the hopes that I would notice her. Do women just respond to you more as you get older? Are they less flaky? I can't imagine 30+ year-olds have lifestyles that allows them to meet single people constantly in real life. Some will find a reason to talk to you. Others follow you arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:20 PM
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That's part of it. Having the nicest car, the hottest girl, it's about the bragging rights. But even if you disregard that it's an admission of failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:02 PM
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I'm married since 20 years back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:00 PM
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We both compromise, it isn't one-sided. If that works for you I think it's great. Divorces are the outcome of poor communication, incompatibility and/or a lack of efforts from one or two partners. It isn't just on women. But it's not better with a different person. You might as well stick to what you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:23 PM
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That's really bad. Which country?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:15 PM
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Not because I couldn't pull. But because I settled for less. I would wake up every morning, look at her, and think this was the best I could do. I would rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:59 PM
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If the girl isn't hot I would feel like a chump loser. Yes I'm shallow but I'm not pretending otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:50 AM
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I just need hot and agreeable. I can work around the lack of integrity, morals and success. I have high standards for hot but it's something that most women can control. Basically be skinny and have implants. It's not an extreme request. For how long is it reasonable to try for a hot thot, that is not difficult, before you go elsewhere? A month, 6 months, a year? I think that I've tried for about 2 years now, I've been through a few girls, and they failed the agreeableness. I'm not saying that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:45 AM
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And he purchased a playboy magazine? I am stunned. Even I have never seen a Playboy in real life. I used to get Hustler when I was really young but that was over 20 years ago. Also the expression caught him feels wrong to me. A legal adult can look at Playboy all he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:57 AM
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Now you acting upon those sexual desires and sleeping with someone else is a completely different story/case I feel that if she loves you she will understand. What's 30 minutes of sex compared to a lifetime of romance? Had a married friend who his wife caught him with a playboi magazine of naked women Out of curiosity how old is your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:36 AM
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If we want more mothers for the long term, we need to dramatically increase the compensation for being a mother. It has already been tried and it doesn't work. It's cultural not financial. 4 kids here. My grandfather had 15. I'm still working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:32 AM
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Men having no standards is the biggest issue in the current generation. Men themselves donno that they don't like that some women but are so fukin lonely that they would indeed accept anyone. What do these men think is going to happen in a relationship? Most women are not great company. Even if a woman is good company you will still want a break from her. We don't need to tell women, most if them do know that there will always be someone within thier circle who will accept them within a heartbea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:26 AM
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I would be inclined to agree more if you meant chemistry rather than standards. Chemistry is a better term. Good point. Lots of men who have probably have problems being an insincere people pleaser also can be “turned off” by women. It isn’t as if these men with no standards find all women attractive. It’s just that men with no standards often aren’t being honest with themselves. But is this really that common? I think I have only ever seen people pleasers among IT guys. A lot of these men who s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:12 AM
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is that a societal shift is taking place, and that shift just so happens to be one that denigrates masculinity and places femininity on a pedestal. How is this happening? If a woman denigrated me I would laugh in her face and go back to my video game. In fact women don't even get the opportunity to denigrate me because I ignore them unless they are hot. Is this something that happens on tiktok?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:36 AM
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The avg woman is a very poor dating prospect. Pair that with 1) hypergamy 2) OLD and social media (moreso social media) increasing available dating options and 3) women conflating sexual interest with relationship value. I agree with this. But at the end of the day we are the buyers and they are the sellers. We can take our business elsewhere. Furthermore even if all women tried to improve starting today it would still be too late for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:32 AM
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Who are these men with no standards? I think that's something sketchy guys say on the Internet. I have seen women get rejected by men for not meeting their standards. I have also done some rejecting myself. I think that if we tell women that men have no standards and that they just need to approach us we are setting them up for disappointment. Furthermore I suspect that many of us do have unrealistic expectations without being aware of it. That doesn't mean we should lower our standards but we s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:17 AM
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I don't know who Myron is. I think that Andrew Tate needs a hug and a therapist. I don't believe that women share 5% of men. I have had women offer to share me and I'm far from a 5% guy. I believe that if you have value then you get more privileges. The value can be money, status, skills, even your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:07 AM
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It's not like I'm trying to date or sleep with women for free. That's for guys who are either cheap or broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:04 AM
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No one is ideal. Compromises are a part of life and if you value your partner, you should be able to seek them. All right. If you're going to compromise on everything what do you have left at the end? The man can't be the boss. He can sleep with other women. He has to split the chores. What's the point? It's all the work and none of the fun. Divorce can happen to any couple, traditional couples might stick for longer, but it doesn’t mean they’re immune to it. It doesn't just happen by itself. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:01 AM
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I can enjoy porn for free so women need to offer something better. Being a partner doesn't sound like fun. It sounds like I have to do something boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:57 AM
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Which part is the trolling? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:52 AM
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No one's forcing you to interact with women, certainly not women. You're the ones mostly whining about being neglected by women because you're not in the top 20/10/1% or whatever, and how all women want Chads. I'm not part of the whiny crew. I am in the Chad category. In most other subs this would immediately be branded as satire of an out-of-touch entitled man. It says a lot about the quality of this sub that this is said freely and seriously. I get to be entitled because I bring value. Am I su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:52 AM
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I have money but that's for Stacy escorts. Not for average girls who can't please a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:47 AM
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I don't want her time, I can spend that time on my Xbox. I want a hot woman to show me a good time. I can rent that for about 100 euros. A woman who is not hot, won't do FFM, and takes up my gaming time is a terrible investment. For women the better lover is the one that they are used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:43 AM
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Successful relationships include lots of compromises really. If you have to compromise what's the incentive to stay? There are women out there who let you have your way. Some people have it naturally. You seem to be starving your wife which isn’t good for her long-term. She is naturally bony I'm just improving her physique further. They still divorce. I don't understand why you are so dedicated to the idea if divorce. Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:39 AM
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conservative men are still “allowing their women to be fat”. Maybe they're not conservative enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:29 AM
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Not that hard to look hot = extensive gym routine, very meticulously planned diet, plastic surgery and winning the genetic lottery. Surely you mean 10 minutes of lifting and eating some vegetables? Maybe avoiding the pastry shop. Since you guys love talking percentages, porn actresses are easily in the top 5% of all women for overall (body + face) attractiveness. It actually IS that hard to look hot. Some people just don't have the genes or the money to look that good, no matter how hard they tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:27 AM
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If I can rent a hotter woman who does more sexually then what's the incentive to have a relationship? You would pay more and get less
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:19 AM
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I might at some point. Life just gets in the way of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:13 AM
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If I am paying her with my time and committment we're going to do what I want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:11 AM
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There is a lot of room to discuss and seek a compromise, If your husband wants to compromise that's his choice. I don't do that. I’m around 40 kilos and eat pastries pretty much daily. If your wife has to follow a very strict diet for that, it’s probably not her ideal weight. I'm not interested in weight, I want bones and muscle definition. No pastries for her. There are enough divorced traditional people and older women being happier after their husbands’ death which is pretty grim imv. Traditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:09 AM
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Women in porn are willing to show men a good time for a few hundred dollars. But we can't expect that from women who are supposed to like us?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:01 AM
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We both set the terms. In the same way I can’t order him around or neither of us can sleep around. But women don't want those things. Men typically want to sleep around while women don't. Women don't care for being the boss at home while men do. Ugh, that sounds extremely obnoxious. That's the price of being 44 kilos or 96 lbs. No gain without pain. They divorce too. They stick it out until they learn to get along.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:52 AM
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As a short king I wouldn't trade it for being tall. I feel like being short lets me get away with things. For example I need to cheat because I'm insecure about my height. My wife totally understands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:45 AM
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As I’ve said, he always has the choice to leave me. We talked a lot about marriage and what kind of future we wanted, no one pressured him into it and we both married knowing each other’s preferences. Do you agree that you are the one setting the terms? He can take it or leave it but he can't be the boss in his own marriage. That's emasculating in my book. Too many people fail at either of the steps. Also would you do it for your wife? Counting, cooking? I simply tell her what to eat in general.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:42 AM
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she must be willing to entertain all of her man's preferences, desires, kinks, or side "habits." -she needs to be passive I approve of this mindset. Have you ever considered MAYBE your contempt for women in general, in combination with your perceived injustice that drop dead gorgeous virgins are lining up to ride you and grant your every fantasy, is what holds you back? I have but I am unable to lower my standards. Regular women just don't excite me like the women in porn do. Why can't it be wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:33 AM
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He always has the choice to leave me, doesn’t he? Or he could have chosen not to date/marry me in the first place. But he doesn't have the choice to be the boss. He has to accept the marriage on your terms. I don’t think you realize how hard it is, but okay. All you need to do is count the calories and then make a meal plan. It takes a bit of experimenting but eventually you get it right. That’s lower than general population, yes. I wouldn't sign up for a marriage with a 30% failure rate but I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:24 AM
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The movement launched with an exceptionally-noble philosophy & intention. It drove the ACCEPTANCE of and RESPECT for all body types It's women gaslighting each other to reduce the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:11 AM
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We’re both egalitarian, he isn’t into domination play outside of bedroom. Does he have a choice? It isn’t. At one point husband asked me to help him with counting calories and nutrients intake and this stuff is notoriously boring and takes quite a lot of time to figure out. It’s also easy to fuck up. For women it's crucial since most of their value is tied to their looks. It's my job to keep track of her diet if I want a skinny woman. Fine by me, that’s lower risk than general population. 30% is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:05 AM
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Counting down the clock for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:59 AM
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By expecting women to do traditionally feminine things?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:56 AM
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It correlates with income not politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:54 AM
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I don't want my husband to be in charge, I want us to be equal partners. So your reasoning doesn't work for me. I don't want my wife to have a say in how I run things. Does your husband want the same thing? Trying to maintain weight is a hard task, it's pretty much impossible if it's another person (and you don't have physical power to starve them nor you're abusive). It's easy if you are told how many calories to eat. Oh, it's great. It isn't for everyone, but it works for my husband and I and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:52 AM
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Her reward is a trad marriage. She is a lucky woman and she knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:47 AM
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Why is he the boss if we both put time, money and efforts into our marriage? You keep ignoring this question. Because women want men to be in charge. They want men to make the important decisions. Eh, there are several men here who struggle with their wives' weight. They're on the red side and don't seem to be successful in their endeavor anyway. They haven't figured out how to do it. Most women are not going to lose weight on their own. They need to coach them. We decide things together, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:05 AM
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The deal is that I put in my commitment and he does what I tell him. If it works for men it works for women lol Women don't look for submissive men that they can boss around. Except for on reddit I know. You really don't think women can think the exact same way you do? You don't think women want men to do what they tell their man? No because that's weak and women don't like weak men. As a woman, I too want a certain amount of control in my relationship when I invest in it. Why would you think wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:56 PM
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Gaining weight happens to most people, both men and women. Why only my husband should have this kind of control? Because he is the boss. Realistically no one can make another person to lose weight if this person isn’t interested in it themselves. You just tell them how many calories to eat. It's easier than you think. Also I’m medically underweight as many women are in my family. Me gaining weight isn’t something my husband is worried about, it’s something he wants me to do. It was just an examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:50 PM
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This is obviously a cultural difference. Taking care of you? Are you a child? If you go to a restaurant is the waiter treating you like a child when he serves you food? If you go out for coffee do you expect to make it yourself? If a woman leaves the home instead looking after me there is no point in being married to her. I'm not looking to be married to a friend, I need an actual wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:39 PM
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Men make the decisions and women do the household chores. That's the cultural norm. Also traditionally women don't leave the home alone. Or get educations beyond the bare minimum. We have women in colleges now but only simps marry such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:33 PM
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From what I understood after 3 years of couples therapy she didn't knew what she wanted, but she knew what she didn't, and that was family life including me. Was she sheltered? Did you spoil her? Or did another woman put ideas in her head? She has been trying to get back with me but that bridge has burned. I am doing the civil thing for the kids, but no way in hell she is getting back in my life on any emotional level other than the kids. Does she admit that she made a mistake? She could have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:23 PM
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She lived on her own at 17. At 18 she started taking care of me. That's why she's not looking to be independent. She has already tried it. I don't see what she would do outside the home. She has children to care for and chores to keep up with. That's adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:11 PM
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If you want a skinny woman you need to stay on top of things. It doesn't happen by itself. Let's be honest 25% on the butt is a lot. And so is 19% on the legs. It won't kill her to drop it by 4-5%. Just 1-2 lbs of fat will make a huge difference visually. I just want more definition on the legs and butt. Then I will be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:05 PM
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A boss is totally different because she’s getting paid to be there, has free will to leave and get another job, and there are legal protections in place to prevent exploitation. It's not totally different because someone is still controlling her time. The payment in the home is that she gets a family. It seems like a double standard. Her boss can boss her around, but I can't? What country are you from that you “sent your wife away”? She is probably terrified of you. I'm from a country in the Bal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:57 PM
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I agree. The deal is that I put in my commitment and she does what I tell her. It worked fine in centuries past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:52 PM
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I don't take it personally so don't worry about it. BMI is a meme. This is why you get a scan. I have the results in front of me. Arms 14% Legs 19% Trunk 11% Android 8% Gynoid 25% Total 14% As you can see there is a lot left to cut on the legs and butt and a bit left on the arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:48 PM
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Let's say that you get fat. It happens to most married women. Can your husband make you be 100 lbs? I know that he can ask nicely but ultimately it's your decision. I would never invest in a marriage where there is no guarantee that I get what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:36 PM
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Wow. If you don't mind sharing, what happened? I mean you're clearly a better husband than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:31 PM
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Don’t you see something morally wrong with one human (of any gender) exerting control over another human? Women have a boss at work who tells them what to do for 8 hours a day. Why would it be any different in the home? This is why societies in which the “man’s word is law” do not want an educated female populace. Just look at many Muslim countries. I sent my wife to be educated. She wants nothing to do with it and is now a strong supporter of the Patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:27 PM
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Because it doesn't make sense to invest time and money into a project that you have little to no control over. It's a bad strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:22 PM
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She is average height. Her lean weight is 81 lbs. Her remaining fat is 13 lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:20 PM
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Where I'm from it's considered normal that the man is the head of the household. By reddit standards that makes me a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:17 PM
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All right. If a guy is going to invest his time and resources into a marriage with you don't you think that he wants control over the outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:14 PM
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I have her dexa scan results. She has plenty of fat left. She's average height though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:07 PM
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Because not all women are as independent as the women on this sub. Those women want a man who will tell them what to do. Yes a guy telling his wife to stay off the French fries is cultish. Do we have to be this immature?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:05 PM
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Look I'm terribly sorry but I am married. I don't know what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:00 PM
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It's not like men mind all that much. If my wife divorced me tomorrow I could easily replace her with a younger woman. As men we know this, women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:56 PM
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Because that's women's work. Women do the caring men do the values and discipline part.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:51 PM
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It's not for most people. And that's fine. I'm just comparing the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:49 PM
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Most men in society are married with children at some point in their lives. Based on probability alone the odds are that I'm telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:46 PM
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I don't take care of the kids, but I am home full time and I raise them obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:39 PM
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Not to be mean but most women want a man who is the boss. It makes them feel safe. I know that this sub is 100% independent women. But in the real world it's different. I control my wife's diet, this morning she was 96 lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:37 PM
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What do you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:33 PM
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Because they support her choices. What a strange question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:32 PM
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How do people treat rented cars? If you own it you're going to take care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:30 PM
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Yes. My wife's family is well off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:29 PM
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It hasn't? I grew up with these values and I'm 40. I'm from the Balkans though. I realize that it's different in Western cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:26 PM
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I am married with children. I have been married for over 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:25 PM
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You mean they can ask nicely. But the woman doesn't have to do it. She can do whatever she wants. Yes men can leave and that's why moderns divorce a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:23 PM
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I disagree. The man being the head of the household is a universal trad value. Moderns don't have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:20 PM
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In a trad marriage the man's word is law. If a guy feels that his wife is fat he can just tell her to eat less. Modern men can't do that. They have to accept the woman as she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:19 PM
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They allow their women to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:12 PM
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I would have to disagree. It's about values.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:08 PM
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