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Men are heterosexuals and women are Chasexuals 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:43 PM
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However you turn it around - most women are not into most men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:33 PM
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Based answer
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:32 PM
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It's cope but also somewhat true Given that men are waking up and realizing that 95+% of them are just sexually unattractive... It's not that much of a cope than it is reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:21 PM
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Your job will lay you off the moment it is more profitable to do so than it is to keep you. They will replace you with a robot as soon as it is an option. I know, in reality that is gonna be at least a few decades. Many more people will be before me. BSc in Chemistry, I think I'm good unless AI revolution. Then 99+% are cooked. When it comes to relationships, if you are actually a good man, and a truly good partner, you will be irreplaceable. Simply because most men aren’t. I'm talking about dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:20 AM
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Economy is indeed rigged against me. But I'm not one of those who think he gonna get rich lol. I've tried both and both markets are rigged against me, but I'm objectively more struggling in dating then job market. You have much more agency in job market - you can atleast pick your education. You can't really pick your look for example. But you are right, if i had a knowledge like i have now i wouldn't even enroll on a college. Not worth it. If you are a woman, surely economy looks more rigged ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:52 PM
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I too believe looks are not the only thing, but it is the most important feature which in 2026 is very clear that is the case. It acts as a prerequisite, therefore it is a limiting factor. Meaning that the looks threshold is a bar that at minimum needs to be cleared. Obviously there is a spectrum here too, the more attractive you are, the more lust you can induce, the less attractive you are less lust can you induce, which both have its own sets of consequnces. Two sides of the spectrum can show…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:38 AM
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Have you ever thought about this? The libido missmatch (generally ofc) i believe is the source for most of the dating problems in heteroworld, isn't it? There are only 2 ways to equal this, either one steps up or steps down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:52 AM
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What do you mean by individual solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:43 AM
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Funny you say "lottery". Cause it is exactly that, a genetic lottery. No, i won't quit my job lol. I just won't play the lottery because i know i have extremely low chances of succeding. Hence I don't date, i have extremely low chances of getting what i want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:41 AM
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Now that people are equal, men are turning to the redpill as a victim of society that expects him to act like an adult, and try to make himself an ideal mate for a women instead of a system a system that gave him one automatically. You can't make yourself into ideal mate. The biggest problem guys face is their lack of physical attraction and it is almost entirely genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:40 PM
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The early red pill was largely about trying to understand what really creates attraction and trying to learn those skills. Which doesn't work like at all lol. The biggest obstacle men face in dating is the fact they aren't genetically attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:50 PM
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Unless you change your genetics, you can't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:39 PM
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RP is not genuine when it comes to physical attraction. BP is. And im not talking about the blue one 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:03 AM
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Building muscle, game. Aka the whole RP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:01 AM
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The problem is, that RP is not solution either. There is no solution...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:00 AM
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Funny, i have opposite experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:15 AM
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Based and bleakpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:04 AM
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But the most important factor is face not money or body or education. Eastwick et al made that pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:00 AM
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Yeah losers of the genetic lottery
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:51 AM
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Maybe to you, everybody i know knows
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:32 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:31 AM
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What leaks? That's disgusting, where? 😅 Damn, you got the copes on some next level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:30 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:27 AM
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Huh? I thought this was common sense??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:27 AM
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Men*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:41 PM
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Sure, agreed. But the underlying motivation is not rational, it's primal reproduction urge that is the underlying motivation. Guys that hookup with women on the reg tend to be super goodlooking, significantly above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:40 PM
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If it were just me, that would be true, it would mean I'm gigachoppenhauer. Given that average man can't get sex unlike average woman whenever he or she wants, suggests that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:30 PM
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"Low cost" of reproduction --> maximizing your chances for passing genes --> breed "everything" you see 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:28 PM
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Did you miss my emoticon? It's funny. If i weren't a virgin myself it would unironically describe me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:26 PM
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Ooff... A lot of them, none is really effective 😂 Porn, workaholism, locking in on hobbies, alcohol, drugs, gymcelling, some games... You?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:23 PM
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A) we reduce male libido B) we increase female libido What do you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:33 PM
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This is biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:18 PM
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That's the point. Average man isn't attractive while average woman is. This asymetry is the source of all problems in dating. Period. Anyone feel free to debate me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:03 PM
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Biology determined that is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:00 PM
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Depends on the face. Height and weight doesn't mean much, except in extremes - they can just be an automatic negative ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:59 PM
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If body would be the metric then i would be pretty above average. But it's not, unfortunately. It's the face and mine is (bellow) average. Sorry, you didn't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:55 PM
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Yeah but most guys can get uncommited sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:12 PM
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Yeah but the pickiness is completely biological programming because of unequivalent reproductive cost. The game was planned rigged from the start!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:07 PM
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Lmao 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:03 PM
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Women dgaf, men are sexless because of this. It's only a problem when women gaslight us that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:02 PM
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I'm literally fit with abs, somewhat status job with a STEM degree. You think i'm above average? 🤣 Only double digit people think body is the attraction maker. The face is orders of magnitudes more important. Even height is more important than the body. And even skeletal frame is more important than body in terms of visual appeal, aesthetics. And hadn't touched a woman in almost 4 years too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:47 PM
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Because a man would want to have sex with a woman they think is average. This is telling. I mean i know these things a lot for quite some time. It's the origin of the dating problem. The libido asymetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:42 PM
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What about this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:38 PM
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That's because 20%bf is fat. Fuck it I'm 15% rn and feel somewhat fat. You have to know one thing. Buffer fat percentage zone. Most people need to be bellow 15 or even 12 % to look fit in clothes, because if you are a typical natty you'll look meh in clothes almost all the time, so there is just not much difference if you are 18 or 28% bf because naturally there just won't be tons of muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:33 PM
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Being fit is insanely overrated. Face is much much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:27 PM
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Bs, you couldn't saw him, he's invisible! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:16 PM
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No, they're just ugly 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:15 PM
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Don't flatter yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:14 PM
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I got you covered
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:14 PM
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You can’t just put a picture on a dating app and expect a never-ending supply of women to magically fall in your lap. Some guys literally experience that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:10 PM
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I think that I might go that route since I am pretty sure that I won't get what I want from a LTR and don't have what I takes to get ONS/FWB so be it. Same brotha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:01 PM
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Your flair is textbook oxymoron 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:56 AM
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Imagine no man would want you. This is experience of a vast majority of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:50 AM
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Yeah??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:17 AM
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Average people don't die out because men are not picky enough 🙊
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:06 AM
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Finally, talking about by far the most important factor in dating - the face™
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:52 AM
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I'm top 1% commenter (not on this sub) "constantly complaining about women", have an above average pay and 10% bf (clearly visible abs). I don't see, how that is impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:52 AM
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Subconciously there is always a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:44 AM
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US isn't the whole (western) world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:43 AM
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Im a guy who receives a relatively large amount of attention when out mainy from girls im not into Damn, some can't even get to this point 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:33 PM
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You're not wrong, but most people statistically are in that broad area, and clearly most people, even in many countries with falling birth rates, get into relationships. Yeah, most people settle That's just doomer pill stuff imo. I think it is very real. Once again, most people are still getting into relatioships. Yeah, coz they settle, they do be desperate. If you're talking about the famous 80:20 ratio, or whatever it is on online dating, that's based on just preferences, and the very skewed n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:06 PM
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then if you're not butt ugly, then why do you say you don't have the potential to be attractive? There are still vast plains of mediocrity between buttugly and attractive. Because even having a somewhat interesting personality, and vague confidence should still get you someone, with average looks. As i said in one of my previous comments i could probably get some meh girl to play family with me, but that is just not my goal. To have an average woman truely attracted to me (read as lusting upon m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:50 AM
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No, but if i were rich i wouldn't want a golddigger
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:10 AM
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How? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:09 AM
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I feel good about myself being bald. Funny, but in good lightning and angles i find myself (extremely) hot but if someone takes a random photo of me from almost any angle i completely get women. Not getting any positive feedback seems to suggest that is the reality. I have it pretty good that these things present to me one of the biggest issues i face personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:23 PM
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Idk tbh. I'd say no. She probably doesn't give a shit about such first world problems by Maslow and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:09 PM
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Okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:43 PM
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I'd say only about 10% of each gender would be coupled up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:42 PM
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Why were you both together is there was no attraction? Desperation. Fear of loneliness ans curiosity of having sex, having a woman for me. For her probably a means to have a baby and societal expectations. I mean, like, were you born with 3 eyes or something? Unless you have a severe situation, you can make up for it. Yeah, that's not how it works. You don't have to be rich. Just make decent money that allows you to do things. You have to be well above the average, which only IT can assist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:30 PM
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I mean subtle makeup also means that improvment is very minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:20 PM
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Idk societal consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:22 PM
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I said 'huh?' on scrolling part. I agree with you 1000%, i have a coworker that is morbidly obese (300+ lbs) and one time she said she doesn't like hugging and even handshakes, no human touch, yet she always seemed happy, so I assumed she is content without a mate, like she is asexual or smth... Then at the newyear's company party she was talking to a woman and later i asked her who she was. She then told me she is a brother of her boyfriend 💀 Goddamn dudes are desperate af.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:21 PM
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I refuse to be with a gold digger, do surgeries and be in a non-lustful relationship. I've accepted this, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:40 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:37 PM
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I'm bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:37 PM
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I think the average person is quite ugly, I legit see hundreds/thousands a day and I could only point at a handful and say, I'd be attracted to them. You are not alone. Comfort or ridicule aside, most of these, actually the huge majority of these people are still in relationships. Sometimes, I look at a person online and wonder how anyone could find them attractive but the same person will have a relationship offline. Sure, that's why most relationship are not based on physicall attraction. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:24 PM
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A lot of those who put in effort still won't look attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:17 PM
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How many men wear make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:16 PM
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Sure, speaking on weight issue, i agree it's like that. It’s not just a guy who’s 5’5 getting no luck in dating because they’re lean and average in face, but short without muscles. Muscles won't really helped that guy, don't ask me how i know 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:04 PM
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9 is a small number. Lol. In what world???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:29 PM
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Jesh, sorry we are horny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:57 AM
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I tried to make myself attracted for my ex for 3 years. Like she wasn't a looker at all. Definetly still got emotionally involved. I think i still was quite attracted to her. I wanted cuddles and kisses more than her (sex is obvious lol). But I'd advise people not to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:45 AM
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If both sexes acted according to you - do you think most people would be coupled up or not coupled up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:37 AM
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Lowering testesterone could do that. What works for me is workaholicsm, drugs, obsessions, pc games and most importantly lack of sleep. It has downsides ofc, but they're better than dating frustration lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:29 AM
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she will eventually fall in love with someone. But will the other party too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:24 AM
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She doesn't use make up, mediocre facial genetics and fat. That's what OP said. That does not mean she sucks. No, but it does mean she is undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:22 AM
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But no woman would find him attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:20 AM
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It’s also easier to complain than work on herself. Lol, c'mon... I worked on myself but that doesn't mean I'm now attractive. It's not how it goes. You need to have genetical potential. Not complaining, just stating the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:40 AM
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Hell, I'd even advise men to start being pickier. 90+% of people single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:09 AM
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It's in my previous reply. Yeah, sorry, forgot to edit my comment. If you're in shape, a demographic of women are into you I don't think it's that simple. Face is king from my observation, then height then body. If you had a girlfriend, you know what it's like to attract women, and how to attract women Not really, the relationship was shit, toxic and abusive. Didn't felt like i attracted her. If you're no looker, hairstyle, clothes, and a particular attitude will make up for this. Even with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:59 AM
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That IS my experiences All men you met in various contexts (not only dating) turned out to be psychopathic liars? Oh, a tinder questionnaire?? Tinder stats from match group when they had stats publicly available, not questionnaire. Thats millions and millions of data. Are you aware the study you cited used a sample size of 231 people? FFS, yeah, that’s gonna be reeeeeally accurate. 🤦🏼‍♀️ How about 10k sample over 40 different countries? 231 is a lot if the sampling is good. Not optimal but prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:46 AM
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Lol, we tried and can't get that. That's why I'm single and most probably die like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:35 PM
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It might take some time, but stranger things have happened. More probable is, she will stay unpartnered if we are being honest. In reality most people get desperate to a point they just take what they can get and vastly lower their standards. They kinda force themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:34 PM
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So, then it’s fair to me to assume men are all selfish psychopathic liars and abusers then since that’s my observations and lived experiences, right? Dayum, i seriously doubt you believe that. There’s a reason why anecdotal evidence is the weakest evidence to present. Agreed, this isn't based on just my experiences. These are experiences of most men. We have tinder stats, we have studies and many women say they just don't find vast majority of men attractive. Most other species behave the same. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:29 PM
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I'm 5'6", so no privilege here. But I know the demographic of women who tend to be into me. Damn, fair. Could you describe the demographic? Every woman I asked to go out with, because I could tell they were into me, not just being nice Dayum, you must have a hot face then. I never got to experience that. When i asked them out, turns out they were just being nice. Seriously, cannot tell obviously, never got it. But you have to get in shape Been lifting for almost 10 years now. I'm not jacked but …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:08 PM
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Obsessively observing people around me. Especially in this heterodating context. It's extremely obvious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:58 PM
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Ah, okay, that's fair. Jesus, are people stupid. I stopped dating because i got honest with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:57 PM
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The profound women-are-wonderful bias on most other subs is borderline insulting. Damn, a woman saying this makes me feel a bit faith in humanity, ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:06 PM
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The guys who go to these events are already gonna be one step down from the super hot guys who don't have to. Logical conclusion, high IQ. And honestly most men aren't hot. 🤷🏼 People need to understand this and the dating makes 1000000000000% sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:01 PM
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I did the work, but it wasn't enough. Like I just don't have enough potential to be attractive. People should admit you do need to have potential and a fuckton of people just don't have it. I've come to terms with it, but it pisses me off that anybody can just work himself to be attractive. That's just not how it goes. Now I probably could get some random meh girl to get her to play family but that is just not my goal. This is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:55 PM
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You should! If a obese woman asks me why, I'm gonna tell her it's probably because she's obese. Sure, she will lash out, cut contact, but it is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:51 PM
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You know what? Probably yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:49 PM
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Lmao they do not like mirrors
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:49 PM
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So we agree that most women just cannot be physically attracted to most men? Like even with men putting in effort to improve their looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:49 PM
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Ok … tell me why most men I know IRL don’t think these things and believe women like them? Naive and lowIQ. If you have a social life and interact with women regularly you don’t hear this stuff from women. Sure, but it doesn't dissprove shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:12 PM
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A guy down on his luck dating is not an incel. He is, by defenition. An incel spews toxic hatred That would be a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:11 PM
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Are you busted 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:53 AM
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Speak for yourself 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:14 AM
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Thats bullshit. I love myself, I'm still not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:35 AM
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Yeah i want lust. Can't get that like 95+% of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:28 AM
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Thank you, this is what i keep telling people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:27 AM
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This needs to be PSA. Not like it is now when boomers ask/hint for gfs and shit. Funnily, older millenials don't ask, they just know how it is... 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:11 AM
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You are either priviliged or missatributing niceness to flirtness. What kind of demographic? I can only dream of women hitting on me. Never experienced it. It's insane, how vastly different experiences can guys have...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:06 AM
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Just be hot bro! Just pick right parents and win the genetic lottery bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:44 PM
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But a ton of these guys in here are not intuitive and are weirdos. A lot of them literally write manifestos about how they want to hurt women, take away our rights, and/or force women to be with men they don't want and that's not the kind of energy that anyone wants at these events. Nice fantasy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:43 PM
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Irl all the 25+ women are taken are just not interested - that doesn't mean hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:35 PM
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Triggered when expossed 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:33 PM
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The women who have always been highly enthusiastic about men, like men. They're already taken. I just don't know any single woman that really like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:30 PM
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They are technically attracted to men Some men*. They aren't attracted to most men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:20 PM
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This, biology basically
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:24 PM
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And most guys are out, totally
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:19 PM
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If you had both parents at home, you wouldn't doubt that men and women are attracted to each other. Lmao, i have both parents at home, it's still clear as a day who is attracted to whom and who isn't 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:18 PM
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Men have never had to deal with beauty standards before, and now that you have to be desirable to your partner you guys are losing your shit. Because at the very least 80% of guys are genetically unable to be physically desirable. That's just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:04 PM
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Learn more, you'll get there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:02 AM
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Men don't need to be masculine to exist but you will probably need it in order to be attractive to women Absolutely false. Manliest men in true biological sense are repulsive to vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:00 AM
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Exactly, men need to wake up that women just aren't into them in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:58 AM
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Preach brother!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:55 AM
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Welcome to comphet concept 💁🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:53 AM
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Lol, do you even reality?? Tell me when women will act the same way as men. When they'll pay for OnlyFans for guys, visit male prostitutes, simp for men and act desperate and horny, sending unsolicited vag pics and be overtly sexual in their openings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:52 AM
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I just woke up. I don't wanna have a woman that isn't attracted to me the same way I am to her. I mean you are right, but to have a woman be attracted to you, you need to hit genetic lottery as a man. Top 5% or even better. If you want sex, hookers or Asia. No other reasonable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:47 AM
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Yeah, millenials got told provider route, genZ saw that the Chads exist enlarge. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:33 PM
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Not being the strongest doesn’t mean a man can’t be physically strong. Not the strongest, just noticably above average. Men can lead themselves. Kinda meaningless word then. But i get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:17 PM
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Most people irl know the social consequences so they keep their real opinions to themselves. Internet claims are kept safe due to anonimosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:10 AM
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Humans evolved to engage in risk assessment. Capitalism has led to the destruction of community. Now, we are often meeting someone that we have no context for. We don't have mutual friends, we don't work together, go to school together, have someone who can vouch for that person... like... we know nothing about you except for what you tell us because our lives don't otherwise intersect. We don't have neighbours who know us around, looking out for us. A lot of men aren't willing to wait for a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:30 AM
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If you look at research you would know I'm right. Been lifting for a decade and while I'm stronger than before I'm still weaker than most men. Think weight classes in martials arts. They're height classes in disguise. But also a ton of other factors, like skeletal frame, bone lengths, bone density, wrist circumference... The amount of muscle you can build is heavily dictated by myostatin levels which are genetical. They are developing drugs that inhibit that, but it is not natural and with sever…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:38 AM
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Yeah, in order to be a leader there has to be followers. Physically strong is genetic. Brutalpill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:25 PM
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Ok, wdym by strong? Physically, methaphorically? Some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:45 PM
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Women will follow strong men. They won't lol. At least not yet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:44 PM
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All this could easily be avoided if women who actively liked men, tried to approach and ask men out half as much as men ask women out. Most of guys would never get asked out or approached lol. I'm not one of the guys that would get approached and i still want that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:05 PM
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What do you mean by effort? Like specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:39 PM
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Finally you changed the record... Damn it took a while
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:16 PM
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Huh? No shit? What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:15 PM
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Hope life looks up at ya man, I really do Thanks man. Btw try working out, becoming lean af and growing a badass beard. Hah, classic. Why do people always assume I'm some fat unkempt neckbeard? Way ahead of you. Been working out for almost a decade, I have ab veins, so pretty sure I'm lean af. And also have a beard. Didn't work for me. You know, you can be a bodybuilder and still be ugly. I've seen a down syndrome bodybuilder, think he gets laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:14 PM
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How much time do i have to put in his videos/material to get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:42 PM
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I go to failure tho. I'll look him up. I just can't get stronger for year(s)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:00 PM
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How to not be bitter if you got nothing but rejections? Some people just don’t find their partners till later, you’ve at least got some experience so when you do meet people you aren’t having that hurdle of explaining why you have none. "Umm, why were you single for 4 years? 🤨🤨🤨"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:56 PM
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I've been self improving for a decade bro. I should do surgeries, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:52 PM
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I've bulked but i've gained fat mostly. If muscle building wouldn't be genetical, we would see more Ronnie Colemans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:51 PM
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Nothing but truth
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:49 PM
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I am good looking but not a model I am not goodlooking. There. I am average in height. I am low income. I am bellow average height and bald. Above average income. It doesn't matter. Looks do. judging by your immediate use of cope you must be 20-30 I'm 30. Got laid easily every time I pursued it. Because you are goodlooking. You don't even know how priviliged you are. but by meeting actual people out there, fucking actual women, loving and getting loved back as cheesy as it may sound. Yeah, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:48 PM
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Memes come out of culture, lived experience, so they have some truth about it. But I've linked you a study
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:06 PM
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That I am. Still not enough apperently
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:05 PM
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I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:04 PM
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I mean, I’ve reaped the benefits of this and would say it’s why it’s a must for men to get in the gym I've been at the gym for almost a decade now. I've built some muscles, have abs and some muscles but unless i'm pumped I'm just fit. Didn't help at all. That's why i said genetical muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:04 PM
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Sure, but couple that with my last sentence and you get the bleak reality for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:41 PM
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More than a decade? I've started at 20, now I'm 30. I look worse because of aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:21 PM
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I said they complained by the lack of sex, not that they never get to have sex. Memes don't come out of vaccum. And the percieved lack of sex is a logical consequence of this study, how is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:20 PM
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I mean... My first ex gaslight me she is going infertile and she really wanted the baby, this was manipulation... I was 23 at the time and didn't knew she was trying to babytrap me. I did her a favor, but the mental anguish was brutal. Thankfully she aborted it... Second ex also wanted to have kids but in the future. I never wanted them but said yes. But she left me soon so all good. Maybe it's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:11 PM
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Yeah... Not mega hung, but above average in length and girth. Also genetically big/tall guy, genetically muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:05 PM
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On this thread, yes. Irl? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:02 PM
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They do talk to me, platonically. Basically all my coworkers are women, they're consumers. I have a few female friends. Same thing. At least comperatively to guys i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:01 PM
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But here is a study
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:59 PM
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Most guys, by statistics are not genetically superior hung guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:53 PM
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That I don't want kids? Yeah, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:52 PM
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I mean, this isn't about you, i didn't even say. I'm talking about generalization. Statistics and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:51 PM
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They are constantly buying things in my experience. It is a generalization ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:49 PM
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I'm making a joke, i know. I mean everybody knows the game, so why are women gaslighting us?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:48 PM
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That's also a valid conclusion...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:47 PM
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Sounds like you hang out with men who also struggle to connect with women. Yep, mostly. Like attracts like so that tracks that you’re seeing the struggling me and not the average men who are dating and finding long term relationships They don't. Already posted that statistic when 63% of 18-29 guys are single. Your experience doesn’t cancel out mine. I mean, don't we both cancel each out? I’ve met one man that’s struggled to get a gf/casual sex after 21. Every one else I know dates, has casual ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:46 PM
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So you know nothing about dating in 2026. The landscape has changed completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:58 PM
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Oh, sweet summer child...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:57 PM
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Economics. Let's assume there is 30k women like that. But there is 900k of men for example. The ratio is probably not even off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:52 PM
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Jesus woman, you think if we ask woman on a date we get yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:49 PM
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Why do you think I haven't been on a date in almost 4 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:48 PM
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Thank you for speaking up! Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:48 PM
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Have you thought your's experience is not everybodies? I always liked my freedom because I knew I could meet someone at anytime Yeah, most guys can't pull that off. You are living in a world that most guys don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:47 PM
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They actually are. Most coupled guys i know complain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:37 PM
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After a while... Yes, they do. With those women they paid to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:36 PM
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Most guys have no path. They just can't generate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:35 PM
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What a c0pe 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:34 PM
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Men lie about it because women won’t fuck them casually Fuck, they caught on it, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:30 PM
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Being able to recognize which women physically desire you at a glance is useful. Most men are perfectly abled to recognize that no such women exist for them, lol. Personally for me, that shit never ever happened. Less desirable men get less desirable women to simp for them No, that's not how it works. Nobody is attracted to less desirable people 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:29 PM
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If you are young, you can change this Lmao, most men can't do shit to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:24 PM
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And most can't get even one that is not even beatiful
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:20 PM
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Women today throw out cheating gross slut husbands with the trash. It’s a common cause of divorce. Most common is a financial struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:11 PM
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It does
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:05 PM
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In the past it meant survival basically, but nowadays you are completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:03 PM
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So you’re admitting that you’re projecting a negative bias to feel better about your own shortcomings in the dating realm. No. That's what i see. If I wouldn't see that and say that to myself, then i would agree with you Deadbedrooms aren’t common. The couples I know are happy and very physically affectionate. But I have the opposite experience. Most young adults are hooking up, entering committed relationships, and getting married. Most young men are single and most young men aren't hooking up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:02 PM
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Better to wait for a compatible partner than accept a bad relationship. I've been waiting for this my whole life, I'm 30. How much longer should I wait? Should I just be sexless for the rest of my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:55 PM
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Contradiction. First paragraph suggests you are not goodlooking. Second paragraph suggests you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:50 PM
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Maybe they just suck in comparison. Not everyone can have big fat dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:48 PM
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No, y'all just don't care about it. Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:47 PM
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And why is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:46 PM
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What a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:45 PM
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Then he is objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:44 PM
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I suppose it’s easier to assume everyone is miserable so it doesn’t hurt as much seeing happy couples. Yeah, that would be c*pe. But most couples i know aren't that happy, sure some are. Wives are still having sex with their husbands. Deadbedrooms are rampant af. Most coupled men i know are complaining. Casual sex isn’t prized for women like it is for men. And most people are hooking up in their teens/early 20s. People are marrying in their late twenties/30s. Of course everyone is going to be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:50 PM
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I mean it's still hard and I have to initiate somehow, but a few women were potentially interested in me, strictly relationship wise, i had 2 exes. That said, it has gotten a lot harder and maybe i couldn't now. I can't know since I'm not interested in relationships, unless the woman is super compatible with me. Which is extremely rare since I'm anything but normal in my mentality/worldview and not sterotypical with my properties. Like very unique and diverse. Out of the box.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:58 AM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:12 PM
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Lmao "guys you don't need to have sex at all"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:09 PM
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Go hang out at a dive bar. Some bar fly will want casual sex. Hmmm... I did that, never happened. You are a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:08 PM
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Yes?? You are really weird
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:07 PM
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Old enough to know that most guys in college absolutely get play. Delusional af
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:04 PM
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Except, most dudes do fuck. They do because they invest/pay/compensate for it. Most guys don't get it freely, out of true women lust
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:03 PM
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Nah, I just want to be truely sexually desired, without paying for dates or other investment. Or waiting and shit. It is about ego validation, sure. It's not that much about body count even. Just having sex on tap
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:01 PM
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I'm explaining the reasoning tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:58 PM
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I hope so 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:57 PM
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Not only them. It sucks for most
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:56 PM
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Is he wanted by other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:56 PM
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Nah, even their wives know they're mid. Then why do almost exclusively hot guys get to have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:55 PM
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Eh, why bother. Women just don't care about sex i see. Why do you choose to make yourself miserable? I have a really hard time to self delude. I find this low IQ ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:53 PM
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Your comment content
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:51 PM
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When i was young I and most young guys still didn't get hookups, what are you on about? I could get serious relationships tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:51 PM
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Lmao that's not how it goes, are you dumb? You don't need to have a degree in physics for every single subject there is on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:48 PM
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Huh? I'm just stating the facts, looks like they bother you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:47 PM
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Oh, then you are safe lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:46 PM
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Statistically they don't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:27 PM
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Idk I hooked up with a lot of men. So... yes, most men can get hookups. Lmao, what kind of logic this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:20 PM
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He could definitely have gotten a much more attractive woman. I’ll never turn heads. I like being picked for reasons other than my appearance. ???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:17 PM
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Vast improvment? Entirely different world/reality lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:50 PM
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Lmao @ women here acting like sex is such a difficult skill to master 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:45 PM
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You are never worried that her past exes had better moves, could squirt and sucked his dick better? Deepthroated?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:09 PM
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Men who want virgins or low body-count women want it because of ego - they want to be her best fuck. The more dicks she fucked the lesser the chance you are her best. That builds resentment. Simple af logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:08 PM
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Brutal, what's up with the flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:05 PM
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I have a coworker, she speaks so derogatorry of her newlywed husband... I'm blackpilled like crazy my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:43 PM
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Because those average and below average men were considered attractive to the women who married them. Bahahaha, no. They were tolerable enough but they do compensate in other areas. Most wives are disgusted by their husbands, sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:39 PM
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Women expect more as in the want their husband to be the total package and not just physically attractive. Lmao most married guys are not physically attractive, they're mid af at best Women don’t have any incentive to marry a man she doesn’t find physically attractive. This is slowly showing by less and less marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:37 PM
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Not when it comes to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:34 PM
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The fuck boy to not ratio was like 1 to 1000. It was nuts. This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:30 PM
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Bahahahahaha delussional af
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:26 PM
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He is talking about genetic quality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:26 PM
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I think he just wants to hear your answer, that's why he asked the same question twice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:25 PM
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Just bc more men are married doesn’t make those marriages quality That, I think we can all agree. I genuinely think sex is the most valuable thing for men on here like in what world is casual sex a marker quality over an actual dependable partner. Most men are not smart enough, they think they will get consistent sex, that is why they marry, why do you think they do? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:24 PM
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Utility? Or you thinking smth else?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:21 PM
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Brootal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:32 PM
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Doesn't make sense, because most men get married but most men don't hookup in a single time in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:28 PM
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Sounds hot af
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:27 PM
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It is not for men, it's supervalidating (at least for me). I wanna know more about your experiment in details. How exactly did it went?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:26 PM
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Is it really so privileged to have one-time sex with a stranger? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:25 PM
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80/20 used to be pre-Tinder era. It's more like 95/5 in 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:23 PM
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My current bf treated his ex much better in terms of planning dates and trips and such, and she was a hot mess who treated him badly. Sometimes this bothers me, but then I think he’s probably just burned and not willing to make as much effort anymore. Brutal pinkpill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:13 PM
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into the same things sexually Like what? Most things are soooo overlapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:12 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:55 PM
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Less so, why? But at least she wanna fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:53 PM
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Yep, it's killing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:51 PM
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This. Is cucked. Sometimes i feel better being an incel than a cuck guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:48 PM
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Wrong. Being hookup guy is superior. I say this as nothing guy. Husband guy is insulting to me. I'm not even that. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:46 PM
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I think you are both right 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:40 PM
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How do you define that? I had both relationships start with having the sex on the first date (car) but is this really a hookup since it was not defined like that and it was a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:31 PM
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Personally, both is good, but being the best fuck is massively more important/validating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:25 PM
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You ain't redpill you are the forbidden pill lol. Because you are completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:16 PM
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I mean very handsome face probably matters more than good physique. You are right face is much more important than height and height is more important than body.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:12 PM
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My husband also had lots of casual sex (we both did) so neither of us placed immediate sex as some kind of validation check since we both knew we could get it if we wanted it. Disregard my previous comments, this now makes sense. It is not the norm since not everybody is that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:05 PM
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Super weird and unsual in reality. Doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:03 PM
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we won’t want to have sex immediately because we want to get to know you better, establish a genuine connection so that when we do have sex it’s more meaningful vs casual sex This can and will happen eventually tho. Hot guys that have committed relationships but can also get hookups don't need to wait anyway in reality. This is a woman's wetting process. The sex is negotiable at that point, meaning attraction is compensatory in nature. Most guys know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:02 PM
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In reality economy gets in the way. In theory they are right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:58 PM
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Theorethically you are right. But most relationships are monogamous meaning you can only be with one guy at once. There are only a few hot guys (meaning minority), so women need to lower their physical standards if they wish to be in a committed relationship. Basic economy principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:57 PM
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Simple economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:53 PM
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Common. I have abs, been in the gym for almost a decade now. If you are ugly it's because of your skull shape 95%+ of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:52 PM
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Does it always have to be someone's fault? It's just fucking biological programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:51 PM
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Usually it's an asymmetrical transaction. Compensatory in nature. Nit necessaraly money too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:49 PM
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some guys out there really are not in the hookup material category. Some?? 🤨😂 Most aren't. But there is certainly a category of men who have next to no hookups ever. That's most. You live in a bubble. have never had anything start without hooking up or pulling first. LItterally have never been on a first date type of thing in my life. Yeah, you don't even know how privileged you are. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:46 PM
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Most guys can't even get to casual sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:17 PM
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Stop c*ping with the social skills already hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:13 PM
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It is. You are not lean then or on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:11 PM
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As someone who did/is doing 1) and 2) for a decade pretty much, I still never get to a 3) (women showing interes)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:06 PM
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Men were never really raised to have to be enjoyable to be around like women are. What the actual fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:47 PM
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If women want to ask men out they do Yep, most guys just aren't in that position
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:01 AM
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Ngl you had me in the first half lost me in the second and won in the final minute
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:58 AM
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Eloquently said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:41 PM
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Bro, it's friday
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:40 PM
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Balkan cultures Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:02 PM
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Sure, they still aren't attracted to vast majority of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:01 PM
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They work a bit. If you are ugly in the face there's no saving it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:35 AM
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it just shows that men are hornier. And somehow people still argue about this and even call it misogyny 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:55 AM
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HighIQ take. 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:53 AM
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When I was younger I confidently stated that I do not find blondes attractive, well turns out I do. This is what different tastes means?? Oh God, people really are stupid. We are talking about gene quality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:45 AM
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I actually think very small amount of people "settle". And i think it's the opposite - very small amount of people don't settle. is in my opinion a very silly thing to argue about since everyone has their own standards that are changing throughout their lives. Leagues are actually 🧬 leagues and that isn't changing. You just realize that you need to compromise for other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:41 AM
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This is comical, but also true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:32 AM
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But they all care about your face
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:41 PM
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Personally I’d rather be alone than with someone I don’t consider my dream girl and who doesn’t think I’m their dream guy. I understand that a lot of men and women won’t share the same sentiment though. Same, that's why we are single lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:34 PM
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Brutal forbidden pill 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:30 PM
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So SEAmaxxing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:25 PM
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Sure, but we can't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:24 PM
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Halo effect is well researched phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:14 PM
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It's not, but be my guest 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:13 PM
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This. Most will be more attractive but still not attractive (enough)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:16 PM
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Lmao very mild boosts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:15 PM
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Every woman that is now 35 was at some point also 22. Not every man that is short was tall at some point. Jesus... 🤦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:55 PM
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Surgeries aren't magical in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:54 PM
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Careful, you must not talk about the forbidden pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:53 PM
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And it's true, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:52 PM
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Not really, you can't just get attractive. Save the gymcope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:52 PM
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This, everybody knows redpill is just as fail as the blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:49 PM
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Try that while being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:32 PM
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Did you got the paper? If not it's here: Link to the study
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:15 PM
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It's literally the forbidden pill 🤣 And yes, to me that's common sense, so i don't see the reason for gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:12 PM
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Not red but the forbidden colour 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:10 PM
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Amen!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:09 PM
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I've tried dehydrating my face and there is a small improvment but still puffy face (small bones don't have enough surface for x amount of fat to be distributed over)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:43 PM
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It's true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:40 AM
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Maybe cause they grew up not with social media, fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:33 AM
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That's why I don't bother with dating, I'm barely average if that (a lot of things make me bellow, some make me above objectively) and the things I'm looking for (female validation, not sex alone, kids, marriage etc) are just not gonna happen in this market where my value would need to be extremely high whereas it is significantly lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:32 AM
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I’ve known average looking guys with good charisma who had casual sex. I've never witnessed that tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:28 AM
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You seem to be in minority 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:23 PM
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Yep, becasue majority of women are on the asexual spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:22 PM
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They did settle a lot more in the past (still do, just relativity) and after they want children they are more willing to settle too. "Women have higher standards" is probably meant like for non settling women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:41 PM
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Hate to break it to you, you're an outlier, majority of women are somewhere on the asexual specter. Although this opens a big can of worms... Does that mean that "asexual" women are "asexual" because they only find a tiny minority of men attractive aka Chadsexual. Or is this a myth, or a coping mechanism for us incels? Would you say you are finding a decent portion of men attractive? To me, normal, true heterosexual women are in small af minority (bellow 10%) and that means they find a lot more …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:04 PM
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There will, always, be a random person to have sex with, who is going to be more desirable than your current partner "Citation needed" 😂🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:56 PM
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You can't really develop yourself to be attractive enough for casual. You need genes by defenition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:47 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:36 PM
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It's true in my experience and it's still higher than woman's 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:28 PM
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Just be attractive bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:26 PM
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average looking middle aged people hook up too Ahahahaha, c'mon, does the pope shit in the woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:24 PM
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We're being forced into monk mode without such jobs anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:18 AM
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Ahahahaha there was an attempt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:38 AM
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For vast majority of guys that means no sex ever tho. Which is not much worse then alternative 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:37 AM
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You are either born with a potential to be a hookup material or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:35 AM
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Real talk
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:25 AM
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When you understand this core truth as a man, and you are attractive enough to the point where you can rev the fuck out of that gas pedal Just be attractive bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:20 AM
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Ahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:56 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:38 AM
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Kendrick Lamar username?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:41 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:30 PM
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Makes you think, why not...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:00 PM
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Men who are capable of sleeping around after a stale marriage do the same Men who are capable of sleeping around don't even settle 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:35 PM
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Yes, I'm just saying to counter point your narrative. The thing is, she doesn't seem like statistical anomaly, i have a few other female friends that are similar like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:30 PM
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Unless you don't get erejction, you will, maybe it's just a bit harder if she is ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:30 PM
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No shit Sherlock?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:27 PM
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Listen, my female friend is complaining to us guys how she doesn't meet any guy so she can finally fuck. She said to me classic relationships don't work for her, she can't stand anyone for long. So why doesn't casually fuck any of us average guys that put in effort to how we look? Because she wants to do it with a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:27 PM
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ol a BS in chemistry is not a status symbol Sad reality. I'm not from US so maybe it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:12 PM
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Oh right, forgot what sub i was on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:10 AM
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How many dentists, doctors, lawyers do you know who are not married A few of them actually. Profession is not a guarantee. I have a BSc in chemistry, while it's not that status as other professions, I can tell you it makes zero difference to me in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:09 AM
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Cope, it's genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:13 PM
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my son will be lucky to hit 5’8. Riiip 💀 But I’m not worried because both are super smart, outgoing and will be conventionally attractive when they finish maturing Super smart is actually correlated with poor dating life and how the fuck do you know they will be conventionally attractive when they mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:03 PM
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help teach them proper social skills, grooming, and set them on a good career path Lmao @ thinking this is the recipe for dating as a man 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:56 PM
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I have yet to meet a guy who in some form doesn't think about sex "all the time".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:57 PM
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Did it change really?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:47 AM
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Oh, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:46 AM
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Seek a therapist. And take accountability for your actions that may have caused 100 failures. Can't make this shit up ahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:37 AM
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Idk bout u, but I love socializing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:32 AM
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Yeah, but it's kinda obvious. If you don't have a romantic relationship as a guy you most likely won't fuck on the reg. It's like saying, if you don't have a job.. how the fuck are you gonna earn some money? Sure, it's possible but most guys can't make some money without a job. The real question is: "why are guys not in relationships?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:01 PM
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Why is it suffering when dudes can’t understand life isn’t a porno with them as the main character? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:58 PM
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Sure, maybe if you take it the literal way (confidence coming from competence), then I defnitely get what you mean. This, yes. What I'm talking about is more about "groundedness", basically being secure in yourself Oh, yeah, I know what you think, being realistic about yourself. This is literally me! This confidence topic is actually very interesting to me, since it is a neurochemical state in the brain (you can achieve this via drugs for example) and it's to be described as being really sure of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:57 PM
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I'm talking about experiences of me and my friends, guys I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:03 PM
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Again this is why patriarchy was a bad model Uncontrolled reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:02 PM
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Yep, i just don't have romantic relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:00 PM
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Oh, so I should be happy like that lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:59 PM
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I do get your concern here, but I'm not sure 30 is a good sample size to go by for grounding your points, it's pretty low to be fair, some do that or more in a few months. There weren't exactly cold approaches, I know they are doing them for crazy volume. Volume helps with confident detachment from the outcome of an approach or date. It essentially destroys desperation on each attempt (desperation signals scarcity, which is unattractive to women and people in general). Yeah, I haven't tried cold…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:37 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:04 AM
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Yup, my parents are ultra religious, they've been praying for me to get a gf for over 3 years 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:02 AM
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What if he still wants to? My mom and pa didn't raise me to be a player yet, that's what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:00 AM
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Men with their money and body right are getting above average women No they don't. Supply and demand
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:56 AM
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Same except not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:15 AM
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8/10 or 8.5/10 via angles is not whatever looking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:47 AM
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That's delusional. Most men struggle to get women let alone sleep around. My friend group - those of us who are single are not fucking that much, once every few years on average and they are as average as they can get lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:35 AM
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I had sex before, but I'm struggling sexless man for more than 3 years now. I wish I had sex once and be cured of my biological programming, but it ain't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:19 AM
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But that's like saying not having a job contributes to being poor - like no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:13 AM
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It is, I'm just telling you it's battling a longlife addiction in the meanwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:12 AM
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Reality is, well observing me and my friends which would be classified as complete normies. Some years 2-3 fucks, and some 2-3years of draught.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:11 AM
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It was lack of "relationships" not lack of "romantic relationships". And that's using circular logic. Ofc if you have romantic relationship(s) you will have sex, unless it's a very weird one type of relationship where you don't have sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:33 AM
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Dude even in most relationship you fuck with a condom, dafuq? I don't believe 0.3% one bit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:31 AM
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Managing to score once a year is not really what guys are dreaming about...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:30 AM
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Once we’ve moved past that then it’s fine That's true, but it will be nasty. Not really that big of a deal if there too many old ppl. You know that means chaos, right? Medical treatment will be focused on old, good luck getting a doctor. Or you mean letting old people die in misery and pain? How do people cannot envision this scenario??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:24 AM
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More than some slight chub, but that's how you know the milk is good so it's perfect. Bro.. 🐮🥛
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:05 PM
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Brutal.. well it's a coin toss up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:01 PM
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So the personality gaslighting needs to stop
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:00 PM
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That's just cold 🥶
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:56 PM
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I would like the gaslighting to stop, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:55 PM
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Thanks man! I'm just trying to tell you that in 2025 it doesn't work like that for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:59 PM
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The more you approach, the less you worry about each person I've approached over 30 women in the past 3 years, and it hasn't been any easier, if anything every rejection hurts more. The loose requirements and nonchalant-detachment are much easier to embody if you give yourself a strong overarching life goal, and make dating a side aspect of it. That life goal will determine the requirements from women ("would she support me or hold me back?"), and can serve as the source of confidence you need f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:57 PM
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I promise you that most men know what you need to do to get whatever level of pussy/success/money they want, as do women Most just don’t wanna put in the effort, and screaming at them isn’t gonna make them want to Hmm what do you need to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:40 PM
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Do tell
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:36 PM
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Sure, but RAPID, uncontrolled birth collapses will make in the few decades a very old population. You don't think it's chaotic when you have 5 times old population that is non-workable and needs special needs relative to active population?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:33 PM
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the best I can do is help make more groups be considered more desirable What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:26 PM
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63* but we all know most single guys struggle to get sex. At least 40-50% of guys struggle, severly. Some manage to get sex in a year, some every second/third year, some never and some every week or a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:23 PM
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I can't control whether women find my future son attractive, that's true. But I can raise him with enough self-worth and tools so that he doesn’t feel like he failed in life because of it. Does it mean it won't sting? Probably not. But it means he will have other people to fall back on, and healthier ways to cope. Yeah, this is what the OP is talking about. It will still sting him his whole life, it's ego-urge, it's a strong biological programming if it weren't so powerful we would have gone ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:21 PM
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Ok, that's fair. I'm not THAT special (sure I'm unique) that I could give to a potential woman something that others couldn't (company, affection, 5.5" of leaky dildo..)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:03 PM
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Well, I've been trying for a decade and I'm 30 now. The vast majority of men succeed in dating and relationships when they try. Well that doesn't make me feel any better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:58 PM
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So even penetration wasn't enjoyable? Once I didn't come from fucking my ex and it was the best sex of my life. I guess i can't give you an analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:51 PM
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Looksmaxxing (avoid the toxic people though), working on your mind and personality, replacing high body fat with muscle, finding a style that communicates what you want and suits you. What if I've been doing this for a decade now? I'm still not attractive (enough) The mind can also be a terrible judge of what's actually real about your looks and what you're making up. Yeah, I used to think I was above average (I still do looking in the mirror)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:49 PM
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I understand what you are saying but one can improve their look by getting new hair cut and dressing more stylish If you have hair, that is :) If you already dress nice, what can you improve? Even handsome guys can be boring and less attractive when they don’t smile Sure, but they are still more attractive than other guys that improve their looks. another thing maybe you don’t find yourself good looking and maybe some girls in your environment don’t find you attractive but you know maybe foreign…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:45 PM
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Now you're talking. Another thing is that people have different taste , not everyone get attracted to the same thing. It's not really that different. There are guys that have a few women interested in them at any time and there are guys that have never had any woman into them in their life. And everything in between. I'm just more of the latter guy. I just wish people would be more understanding that women just aren't that into men like men are into women. You know, the gaslighting that it's you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:39 PM
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Yall can change (you won’t) In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:24 PM
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Alcohol doesn't make you blind and horny if you are a woman 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:23 PM
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I check none, seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:21 PM
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Because they don’t want t9 address them or put in the work I'm among those 25% and I've put in the work (body and grooming). Sure I'm not a virgin anymore but I hadn't had sex in more than 3 years even tho I've tried it 30+ times. I don't play videogames anymore, but when I did I actually got laid lol. As I said in previous comment, I do socialize, go to concerts/festivals and drink alcohol and do drugs, have plenty of friends of both genders, yet no romantic/sexual success. Most of the guy frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:14 PM
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0.3% just didn't pay for an escort or you know lie about it. The percent is at least 5% even in older generations. I don't have a source, nobody has it, but we all know it is. Heck, asexuals are more than 1%, people with disabilities/severe health restrictions. Honestly, for that small percentage you would need an enormous sample that targets such people too. I wonder how many of 40yo virgins commit suicide so they can't speak...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:06 PM
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And it’s not 25 percent of the population: it’s 25 percent of young men 18-29 who are single. No, it's 63% And for me personally, I go to concerts/festivals etc I do socialize (and drink and do drugs) and it hasn't result in any form of sex/kissing/making out...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:02 PM
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the guys either step up Lol is this a pun about growing taller? Cause in reality, height is such a thing not that EQ that y'all keep spewing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:33 PM
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Idk, if you look like shit, unkempt and fat you don't have the right to complain. No, I don't have social anxiety, and I'm ambivert. I have no trouble making friends of both gender tho
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:12 AM
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Yeah, not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:09 AM
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Imagine you are ovulating everyday for most of your adulthood... And no man wants to have sex with you or be with you... It's called sexual frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:24 AM
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Nothing , if someone is struggling they should try to improve themselves ( losing weight , dressing nicely, get to know new people and have hobbies ) It really gets on my nerves when people assume that we haven't been trying that for a decade...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:22 AM
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Natural desire gap
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:10 AM
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But this is a feat of nature, natural programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:07 AM
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This, it will be multimillion worth per person, at least for a few years/decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:10 AM
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Yeah, I give up. I tried with more than 30 average girls that seemed open but when the date was nearing they always came up with excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:06 AM
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but yea I can agree there are people so ugly that no improvement can help. Very few people but they exist. I mean it will make them technically more attractive but not enough to make them attractive. This is not rare. This is the case with me. This is not the case for the average man though. The average man benefits greatly from even soft looksmaxxing like skincare, clothing, and fitness. I disagree, soft looksmaxxing will at very best make him go from 5 to a 6. If it's more, then he wasn't aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:04 AM
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Yup, as a guy that worked on himself (fit etc) and still ends up as a 4 at best... I'd have to date ugly and obese women (bottom 5%) at that point.. what is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:16 AM
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Yeah, but not much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:30 AM
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Ok, that's literally impossible for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:27 AM
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Yep, not just cooked, deep fried. Idk, steroids, rhino or forgetting it alltogether
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:11 PM
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It doesn't fuck you over?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:01 PM
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I've tried it a few times and still got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:00 PM
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It’s unfortunate, but dating in the early stages works far better as a man if you’re a little distant instead of a little clingy. If she shows you interest and you like her back, then you should reciprocate those feelings I've been trying this most of the time, it never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:11 PM
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Idk, but this sounds dogshit to me 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:50 PM
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Do you have a girlfriend? No. Do you want one? Sure, but nothing serious. What does your libido make you DO regarding sexual relief? It made me try, approach and talk to women. After 30+ rejections in a row I figured I'm just not what women want. So i stopped trying and ofc no woman approaches me, so it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:49 PM
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Flirting is always a good start. 100% immediate rejection with this one for me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:29 PM
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Die miserable and alone then I guess A lot of guys have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:17 PM
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Except when that is your only experience... When should you get it that you just aren't wanted so it's best to stop trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:15 PM
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Huh, lucky. For me it seems to be all women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:26 PM
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Yep, never happened to me, that's why i quit trying (among other things)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:17 PM
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Women make it incredibly easy if they're interested, and you'd have to be a social fuckwit to miss the glaring signs that she's into you. Welp, guess they don't want me then. Just as i suspected
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:05 PM
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For example, just last week I was advocating and talking about my own experiences experimenting with legal (at the time) steroids, in order to boost my own chances of success with women. It worked, and If I only live to be 67 instead of 68, it will have been worth it. Dude, if there would be a guarantee i become a player after surgeries and steroids for just ten years then I die I'd invest all my life savings in it. I'm more concered that steroids would worsen my look via redness, acne, baldness…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:46 PM
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But I find myself for sure above average on a good day in a mirror. Even on some pics I take and very rarely on pics other take. But some glimpses of my side profile i found myself another species... Anyway I get rejected constantly, no attention from women therefore I conclude I'm delusional and I'm objectively below average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:42 PM
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Story of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:33 PM
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And most out of those who try and "succedd" will get cheated on, deadbedrooms...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:31 PM
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Meh, at some point I was even working to make it happen and it didn't help. I do get your point tho, and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:29 PM
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That's cruel and real af.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:28 PM
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I live like this, still no woman approached or started anything remotely close to flirting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:27 PM
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You are definitely above average dude lol. Cause I can't relate at all and i work with pretty much women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:11 PM
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And a pedo 🐻 As a hip-hop enjoyer, his "music" is dogshit too But the correct answer would be if your attractive young man, you will definetly gain attention by some women. This. I don't get any. Therefore it means I'm not wanted. Everything cheeks out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:10 PM
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I don't have time to play with this rn, I'm gonna assume you are speaking the truth - does this mean that PEW research is absolutely dogshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:07 PM
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DM?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:05 PM
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I tended to have experiences with women probably in the 5-7 range and even years later, girl next door type images tended to turn me on more than super blondie plastic hotness. I actually struggled to think of the super hot ones as sexual. Fuck dude... This makes a ton of sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:01 PM
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Men, because they now will not be able to find a woman who comes close to what they are used to seeing. Wtf dude? Everyday i see 100+ more attractive women just passing by than i do in porn. But I do watch homemade/amateur content not professional porn. Also, porn kills the drive to overcome the hurdles that keep them from actually having sex with a woman. Actually, viewing porn makes me more horny and desperate lol. I know because i stopped watching porn for months and if anything I've lost lib…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:55 PM
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Finally, i felt I'm the only one that likes super simple amateurs just fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:52 PM
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Finally, i felt I'm the only one that likes super simple amateurs just fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:52 PM
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What do you mean "fuck yourself over?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:51 PM
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It's not fiction, idk what the hell are you watching
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:50 PM
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Massive dissagre. As soon as i had an opportunity to fuck a real life woman (she was fat and kinda bellow avergae looking, unkempt) on the reg i didn't really watch porn. Even now, I'd rather fwb with fat AND ugly woman than watch a 10/10 on the screen on one hand and dick in my other. Like seriously???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:48 PM
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What if you watch random kinksters that shoot it on their cellphone? Do people really watch pornstars as in professional porn (makeup artists, whole ass crew?) It feels so fake, yet some randoms fucking gets me off like crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:44 PM
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Finally a sane take. I'd rather have fwb with fat AND ugly woman than watch hot skinny bitches on my phone in one hand and dick in my second.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:30 PM
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Yeah, your last paragraph doesn't match my experiences. Women don't give a fuck about effort, they care about results. Yes, I have abs and put a fuckton of effort into my grooming for a decade with zero result.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:26 PM
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No, but i do understand why a lot of people think it is. It's very common. Both of my exes wanted it more than me lol. It's overrated af, only good if you wanna raw dog it and cum inside her ass. Otherwise pussy is just better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:19 PM
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For sure, can't relate to you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:07 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:05 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:04 PM
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Well, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:04 PM
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The best feeling is when a woman cums because you are responsible for her leg shakes, dafuq??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:03 PM
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Who said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:00 PM
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People watch professional porn? I watch amateur content, it feels real
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:55 AM
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now with porn being so rampant, there are a growing number of guys who used to have to settle for women they weren't attracted to who can now find a more satisfying sex life from porn than they would have had with a woman they were not attracted to... Speak for yourself. I'd rather have fwb with fat AND ugly woman than jerk it. Not a serious relationship tho... Well fat AND ugly women are only available if i commit to them so hand it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:27 AM
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Hahahaha i feel that, i do watch somewhat in shape people. Can't really watch below average people fuck unless it's some fantasy and feeling extra horny lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:22 AM
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What is PE? The fact you get fucked a d getting away with standing your ground so to speak, suggesst you benefit from halo effect. Most men can never get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:55 AM
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Fucking real... I ask myself what porn are people watching. I don't even need to go to the gym, at least half of young women are comparable to women getting fucked in a porn. I watch non-staged amatuers tho, professional porn looks so fake and uncanny, it just doesn't do that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:51 AM
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Meanwhile, I was just recently hanging out with an English celebrity who I met at a bar during some scene he was filming, got hammered, watched him take the girl I was hitting on, Bruuuuutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:48 AM
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You have to compare 21-32yo men with 18-29 yo women. True. Since Pew doesn't give you the relationship rate of men aged 30-32, how are you doing the math? Wait, how are you doing it then? Also, why do you include gay men in this? They tend to not want to commit in young years and just have lots of sex with different partners. You wouldn 't include them in the stats about sex partners, right? Because where can I access only straight stats? I do agree with you on this one. But gays aren't a big %.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:44 AM
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If you feel chronically ugly, such that it's become a personality trait, why not just tackle that? How do you tackle ugliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:25 AM
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When you look at Pew research from 2022 (most recent) there are 63% of men single and only 34 % of women single in the age bracket of 18-29. So if we assume the average age gap of 3 years, that would mean 18F with 21M, 19F with 22M etc and 29F with 32M who is already in the second age bracket. Let's assume then that 20yo men and bellow are single (all of them, generalizing ofc). The age bracket is 11 years long, average gap is 3 years. It would have to be at least 5-6 years average age gap to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:23 AM
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5 years of therapy in one comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:29 PM
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Yep, this speaks volumes!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:27 PM
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Exactly. Which is brutal af 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:18 PM
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I do crave validation, you don't? Yes I want them to want me. I do like myself lol. English is not my first language. I'm insecure because women don't find me attractive. Nope, I don't need them to love me unconditionally or not. I wanna be lusted upon? Flirted back and stuff. Not making up excuses for why you can't get a date...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:11 PM
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Why it doesn't seem like a goal of mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:55 PM
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Nah man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:22 PM
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Huh? You said you did it in clubs and through friends. Never mentioned apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm speaking for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:04 PM
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It certainly doesn't help knowing you aren't most men 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:48 PM
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So... are you saying I need to use steroids?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:45 PM
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Yeah, i told you so in my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:44 PM
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I crunched the numbers, there is still 50% missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:37 PM
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I've been told by many I have really nice form tho.. And I always feel the targeted muscles, watched many videos on most common mistakes etc. I've even increased protein for 40+g per day for the past year to see if I haven't had it enough. No increase to be seen. I've been gaining about 2lbs per month. It seems to be mostly fat, performance goes up veeery slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:35 PM
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Yes, agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:02 PM
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In my country, I am average height. That explains a lot. For women everything is subjective Somewhat it is on a micro level, hence types. But successful guys are always displaying genetical quality Why choose you when she could have everyone else. And you need to adopt that mindset if you want to have success. Oh, I have exactly this mindset lol. I am average height here, but everyone in America is overweight, so average height, average looks, way better physique, and above average salary = more…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:57 PM
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In what way did you pay then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:26 PM
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You must be pretty above average looking then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:25 PM
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Been going for almost a decade, didn't help
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:24 PM
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People are getting more lived experiences...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:23 PM
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If you are short and bald and ugly, no body can save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:22 PM
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btw. if you compare the young men and women cohorts with a 3 year age gap prefernece, so 18-29 women with 21-32 yo men, then the trendlines for singleness overlap nearly perfectly.) What kinda math is that? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:36 PM
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You can still be ugly with clear skin, good fitting clothes and being jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:33 PM
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The commenter probably meant 'what if he is the guy that can't build much muscle with gym due to his genetics?' I've been hitting the gym hard, consistently for almost a decade and yes I've built some muscles but below average amount. If I'm lean nobody can tell I lift in clothes. And when naked I don't look jacked, just fit/athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:32 PM
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Yep, that's been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:23 PM
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Putting in effort won't make you perfect, but you're going to have more options than you did before As a decade old journey on improving my looks I went from 0 options, to... 0 options. I've gone bald during the time so yeah... That still might not be a lot (as you mentioned), but we all have to play the hand we're dealt. Not really.. I've your been dealt a hand that makes it pretty much impossible to win - should you really play? Losing over and over and over again feels bad for your psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:23 PM
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Is it worth it in your opinion to go from a 3 to a 5.5? I've never been fat and unkempt and started as a 3. I've only been able to go to a 4.5 at best. Probably I'm lower since I'm bald, short and my face is probably below average even when lean (veins on abs level lean)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:18 PM
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I've been improving my looks for a decade now, didn't find any improvement in the dating realm. I've sent a pic of my face to a girl that DMed me on some local sub and we were talking... Then she said if I ever heard of the term 'looksmaxxing' lol - I've been improving my looks for 9 years at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:05 PM
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After all the effort i've done I'm still the bottom 10% of my friend group lol. Genetics are that harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:14 PM
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Because being in shape correlates strongly with a solid personal sense of style and good hygiene. If someone is putting in effort in the gym, they're often more likely to put some effort into their appearance as well. That's me. It still didn't improve my dating endeavours at all because you can still be ugly with lean face. You need to have proportional bones in your skull to be goodlooking lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:11 PM
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I guess my brain is still in denial about being below average lol. Hey man, that's totally normal, I'm like that too. Testosterone is one helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:05 PM
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Same bro same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:04 PM
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I see women leaving clubs with all kinds of men, all the time. I don't see that at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:03 PM
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Most guys will never had that experience. I rejected a girl once (half life ago lol) and it wasn't like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:02 PM
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I was never above 24BMI so my face looked somewhat puffy before. When I'm lean ~10% bf, veins on abs and stuff my face gets just slightly more defined than at 15+%bf since my face is recessed. It's still kinda chubby (compared to some guys that just have that shredded face). I'm still below average looking in the face. I'm around your height which is 3+" below average in my country and can't relate at all to you. Never get any attention. It means you have good enough face to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:53 PM
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Tried what? I'm confused rn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:42 PM
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Absolutely brutal truth spilled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:29 PM
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Except the second rule is a reiteration of the first. My dating life didn't improve at all after improving my looks for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:28 PM
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It's not crazy talk. This was my experience after improving my looks. No change in the dating realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:26 PM
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Getting abs doesn't work if you are short, bald and ugly in the face. That was my experience at least
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:25 PM
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My ugly ducklings out there know what I mean. When you make a massive shift, grow into your looks, etc. and the world starts treating you differently, you see that all this shit is fake and superficial. I wish I glowed up... Nothing changed for me after a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:23 PM
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Is your face bellow average tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:20 PM
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Shape matters but not as much as face and height
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:19 PM
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You still need to have an attractive face
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:18 PM
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It really depends on your face... I'm bellow average height, bald and ugly... Getting abs and veins didn't help me one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:16 PM
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You are assuming that women care more about body than about face lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:11 PM
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I got to a point where i had veins on my abs even and my face still looked kinda puffy (better than at higher body fat but still). Still ugly face, the bones underneath where never that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:10 PM
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Maybe I just lucked out coz I have bad face 💁🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:08 PM
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Yep, exactly my experience after 9 years of gym. No improvement in dating. They don't care about your abs if the face doesn't match the body so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:07 PM
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Epic L 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:06 PM
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I look and feel better to the point where it's noticeable at family gatherings, but I still haven't had a date. Same bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:58 PM
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Otherwise he will probably have to try his hand at below average single moms and even for them he would need to do relationships. Brutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:56 PM
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Personally I have never found joy from finally getting what I desired only after trying much harder than others This too. But even then it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:54 PM
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This is the reality for most guys that self improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:25 PM
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Last sentence is just brutal... So much effort to just not be treated like shit at work, in public...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:25 PM
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I only use them for sex. Atleast you can. Most men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:17 PM
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So, working out at the gym? Obvious steroid use. You don't get physiques eclipses that of other guys with just natural bodybuilding. And you fail to see genetics that make your frame wider, bigger, proportional etc.. even muscle building is heavily genetic. Most guys can lift 2 decades + and will never look more than fit trough clothes. Jacked requires steroids, for 99+% of guys. Or you can be higher body fat but your face looks bloated..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:58 AM
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They are expensive and permanent and others than just dating prospects judge you for it. For example I've got one tattoo on the side of my calf and wanted more, but; I want something that I won't regret combined with something that will look cool and won't cover up my muscle definition. I also want to have a neck tattoo but I'm gonna be pulled over more by copes, discriminated, not getting a job etc... Like this would be only worth for me if I really got a lot of women interested in me, but I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:55 AM
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What if no woman of any attractiveness thinks you are attractive? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:49 AM
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first of all if ur in ur 20s u should be getting alot of girls through friends Why do people think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:39 AM
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The correct message imo is “grooming and fashion help, however they amplify your base and if your base is low, it will be an uphill battle. It might take years to get traction, if you ever do.” I never did and I'm a decade into it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:38 AM
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But most guys will not be limited to 5% of women. Most guys are working with a lot more, even if they don't have the starting options of a super tall, good looking guy. It's not easy but most have enough to work with. Guess I'm not the most guys then haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:37 AM
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Cologne good clothes and good grooming.. altogether make a positive difference They make a positive difference, it's just usually negligable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:58 AM
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The second paragraph hit home... As a decade old self-improver I can say you hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:56 AM
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Semantics, but still... I have friends with subpar looks who are married, who didn’t have much trouble dating It wasn’t as easy for them as it was me, but they did just fine mostly So which is it? If we are going for men that are married this is a really bad metric for how someone struggles in dating. You can have luck, get with your first gf in high school/college, get married. Most married guys that I know are like that. You can have some other luck, like myself - i got a gf by luck, she cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:18 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:05 PM
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Social skills are heavily overrated ime. Almost all guys who struggle, struggle because of their subpar genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:53 AM
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Heh, c'mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:09 PM
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With whom? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:40 PM
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Ok, but then almost anything can be a genetic fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:40 PM
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Pretty decent, why you asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:25 PM
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Based. It's rare to see a woman speaking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:06 PM
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Ohh no no, ofc anyone can abuse women, I was talking about cheating. They simply can't. No opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:04 PM
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Sure, but that's for rich people which i am not lol. Why those two sports??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:03 PM
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If you are phisically attractive it's very hard to not have success with women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:02 PM
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This simple truth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:48 PM
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We don't have that in my country lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:47 PM
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Yeah they killed them because their wives treated them accordingly to their looks - my theory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:46 PM
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Truth is that they gym won't make you attractive if you're ugly to begin with. Yep, learned the hard way. After 9 years of wasted time all i ended up with was body dysmorphia 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:34 PM
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Never seen that shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:31 PM
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It takes 5-20 seconds to assess looks. Lol, it's milliseconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:30 PM
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Hahahha, next joke please
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:29 PM
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It depends on your face, everytime. I'm short too, extremely fit but ugly and bald. Doesn't mean jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:27 PM
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Being fit doesn't do shit if you don't have somewhat above average face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:25 PM
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But going to the gym doesn't give you Chad face. Most Chads that I know are broke af, most never put a foot into a gym, they're just not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:24 PM
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Just be a decent person, work out SERIOUSLY and eat right for a year, develop, practice, and have good people skills, and suddenly life won’t be so damn hard for some of you. Lmao, I've been doing it for 9 years and still nothing. Body is severly overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:22 PM
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It's insane you are the only one with a brian on this thread/topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:21 PM
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Average and below average looking men abuse and cheat every single fucking day. They can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:20 PM
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Careful, truth is dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:04 PM
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r/ThatHappened
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:01 PM
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I would say it is also easier to improve your physical attractiveness For any significant change to be made, it had to mean you were severely nerfed/neglected before + have really good bones underneath that fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:56 PM
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Yeah, doesn't work like that, you still have to be attractive. Trust me, I'd know, besides no woman ever bought coke from me, they get it offered by men who bought it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:47 PM
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For me it's either friendzone (acting friendly, nonsexual, nonflirty, passive) or rejected asap. I just don't think I'm attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:45 PM
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To those of us who've experienced attraction from women Yeah, obviously a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:43 PM
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Yeah, I've tried your route and all it got me was rejections... Not saying that doing the opposite is any better, i just get friendzoned. Basically, polite/passive -> friendzoned, flirty/initiative -> rejected. I'm fucking tired man, it's obvious I'm not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:41 PM
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Number two, if he really could land that many women by changing profile pictures, he wasn't having a problem feeling desired at any point in his life. Finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:24 PM
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and I'm good looking enough Aaa, there we have it. Finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:22 PM
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That’s because women prefer men who have social skills because it shows genetic fitness. Dude, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:46 PM
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But if you look in any city, women are slightly skinnier than men, men are not putting the effort they can to keep their bodies aesthetic Come to EU and you'll never say this again. Most still struggle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:44 PM
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So what you are saying is that if a guy grooms himself and hits the gym seriously for a few years, he'll have plenty of women pinning after him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:20 PM
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The idea that men are repulsed by women approaching first is not based in reality at all Exactly, I find it extremely hot, extremely ego validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:15 PM
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Women choose who they want to be with or have sexual relations with. Yep, and it's never majority of guys lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:12 PM
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If a guy has a good physique, short sleeve shirts and nice shorts work great for men (just not old man shorts). It's still nowhere near at the same level as a crop top or miniskrit lol. Some women really love calves, forearms, and hands...and hands look better without sleeves. Those bodyparts are notoriously difficult to build since they are highly genetic. And before anyone says i'm a fat slob, I've been working out for 9 years and have visible abs. In my case it helped nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:29 AM
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From the front i look better with a stubble, everything else with beard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:56 PM
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Have a stubble not a literal beard! Many women say they like beard, but it's better to remove it. I have to cover up my poor lower third somehow lol. When i had stubble many women told me I needed a beard, so I got one. Now they tell me I need hair, but before i had beard i still didn't have hair lol 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:20 PM
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Why don't you go to South Asia 🤔 I'm definitely planning to go on a 2 week vacation in either Manilla or Saigon. Most south Asian men are dad bods and ungroomed with a lot of facial hair which quite frankly many women don't like so you will have a better chance, I think. Well fuck, I have a beard 🙃 I thought Asians can't grow much facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:20 AM
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It's impossible that no woman in your age range is attracted to you. But my face is busted, I'm bald and short. If you can't find one in your country or region move to another region or country. Can't really move, no job prospects elsewhere and I'm not rich. But if you want a relationship or sex desperately you will have to lower your standards aka she might not be quote unquote slim or hourglass, might not have harmonious features, she could be overweight but well groomed. Lmao, are you assumin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:46 AM
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I have sebborheic dermatitis and i cannot have hair on my scalp
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:51 PM
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That's my point, balding is genetic, fatness is not. One is within your control, other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:35 PM
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Rip 💀 (You need to press "start chart")
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:17 PM
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I'm a sith
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:16 PM
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Whats the issue they don’t want each other? Lack of aesthetics result in no attraction, sometimes repulsivness. How can you say her standards are too high and hers aren’t when they are mutually rejecting the other for the same reason Real
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:16 PM
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People don't get this, yet it's a well researched phenomenon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:12 PM
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The reason you don't want her is the same reason she doesn't want you. Ugly people aren't attracted to other ugly people, it's not even settling. It's forcing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:57 PM
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But if you get umprompted compliments you are attractive. If not you most certainly arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:53 PM
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She wants the D bro!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:53 PM
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You can lose weight tho. I'm shredded to abs, but still ugly, short and bald lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:52 PM
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Guys have either posted their photos in the sub or sent them to me, and they're totally fuckable. Well in reality they certainly aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:50 PM
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Exactly, why is the "forbiden" pill forbiden? Because it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:39 PM
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The vast majority have attractive features they could emphasize by grooming and style or niches they can fit into. Hahaha, when I get old, I wanna have that delulu as you 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:32 PM
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Then why say he was ugly if that's not really the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
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Holy fuck, good one! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
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I have even see case of good looking guy who didn't find any date. Then he wasn't really goodlooking or didn't really try
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:24 PM
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I'm callin' a cap
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:18 PM
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It's such a strong want, men are risking their lives for it, yes. Stupid? Idk, just a strong biological software 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:05 PM
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Yes, it's genetics. Probably depends on age, balding is not fair game, not on the same level as fatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:44 PM
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Because they aren't that smart 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:33 PM
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Imagine actually believing that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:28 PM
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You would be amazed how many women "believe" that 😂 or having a hobby gets you laid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:27 PM
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Getting hot does take effort. However, effort doesn't guarantee hotness. Does that make sense? Yeah, completly agree with this. But now you seem to be saying that after a decade your looks haven't really improved, so no wonder women still aren't interested Yes. Improving doesn't mean successfully improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:32 PM
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I mean I know, I'm just dissagreeing with the notion that putting in effort will result in becoming hot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:14 PM
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women who might be dating prospects, the perception of you has not changed. Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:18 PM
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Yes. But living there is still cheaper than having done a lot of surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:39 AM
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I mean... You're not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:32 AM
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I'm proud of my acomplishments, but yes I'm looking at it from result point of view and it's the same. Because, in reality, everything else makes a huge difference. What do you mean by everything else? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:28 AM
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However, if you haven't noticed any improvements to yourself, how do you expect your dating prospects to change? Well, logically, I don't. Emotionally, I wish. But that is my point. Your best bet is losing fat, you may have good face beneath it. Everything else, basically doesn't make a diference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:43 PM
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So are you saying you have noticed improvement over 10 years? How drastic has that improvement been? I haven't noticed any improvment over the past 10 years and I know why. If anything I noticed a decrease since i started aging/balding. I was never fat to begin with! Women care most about the face. My face is asymetricall (no changing that), big, crooked nose, reccesed mandible, unprominent cheekbones, eyes are quite asymetricall. If you are around 10% bf your face looks the best, your bones are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:16 PM
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Did you miss the part when i said I've been doing this for a decade? Also, what is high effort for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:58 PM
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I got a beard since then, slightly tiny bit more muscle and that's it. Most "improvement" was in the first 3-5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:29 PM
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More young men are overweight and out of shape COMPARED to young women Not where I'm from. Not from USA. Approx 10% of guys in ages bellow 30 (my competition) are noticebly fat. Gyms have waaaay more guys than women tho. Sure being slim is 90+% diet. Women are far more likely to invest in skin care and grooming resulting mid women being attractive unlike mid men Skincare doesn't make much difference lol, second biggest thing is makeup and other tools that are socially acceptable for women only. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:27 PM
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but voluntary vs involuntary is just a difference in mindset Yes, it's called coping mechanism. the body doesnt actually know the difference. Sure, brains do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:18 PM
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They got none or it's stupid af.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:35 PM
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Fair point. It will work for some guys, I'd bet it won't work for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:34 PM
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Primarily i go for fitting clothes, dress on the ocassion, if it is a party i wear somewhat flamboyant shirts. My style is modern/hip-hop. I match the collours (not the same collour necessarily) and style of clothes so they go hand in hand. Hairstyle is clean shaven since i'm balding for almost a decade (NW2) and have seborheic dermatitis. Skincare 2x per day, exfoliation, moisturizer and beard balm for beard which i go to barber every 3 weeks to fade it out. Perfume, deodorant, shower (the basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:29 PM
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Literally the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:05 PM
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But confident mid men do get women. The vast majority of them are in relationships. That's not my observation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:33 PM
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What if you've spend a decade there? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:32 PM
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And only fools fall for it. Remebered the scene of my friend who is used car salesman and he had a standoffish confident show when a guy was selling the car, he started off "yeah this is shit, this is shit, yada yada..." "I'm taking it for 5bucks less" and the selller looks at him in silence, weirdly, like wtf is with this guy and then me and just says "look, i have a buyer from netherlands that will pay just as much, i don't have time, you buy it or it goes to netherlands tommorow, i don't care…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:28 PM
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Clothing/style, hairstyle/grooming/skincare, gym/diet. Did i miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:14 PM
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Lol, there was an attempt. It confirms those tools aren't enough to increase your attractivness enough. I'm still ugly, just less ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:58 PM
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They have, they're lesser in intensity because of biological costs (pregnancy, "small" amount of eggs). It manifests in finding less men attractive overall and therefore generally lesser sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:57 PM
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Let me know if I'm missing something! See those graphs when women rate men. This was my point, yet it's side point of the study 😅. The study basically confirms halo-effect at the core, but that wasn't my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:55 PM
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I've been improving my looks and body for a decade, so you are wrong. I'm just telling you most guys if they are ugly, will remain ugly, since these tools don't make much difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:53 PM
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I have regularly gone 2-4 years with 0 sex or romance and it wasn't great but it wasn't terrible But it was voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:53 PM
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We aren't raised, we are biologically hardwired. After survival instincts, reproduction instinct is second biggest driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:44 PM
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This is textbook gaslighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:36 PM
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so the advice should be more centered around becoming more physically attractive and knowing your limitations and improving them. No, the advice should be "it never began for most of you, deal with it!" But that would mean i should abandon my decade long (and decades to come) project.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:35 PM
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You talk like there's a gym for your face, or some skincare products make you grow jawline and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:03 PM
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Here in Europe most men ACTUALLY do those things. And As an European, I agree. At this point it's purely a genetic competition. Fat, unkempt dudes are such a minority, I doubt they represent more than 10% at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:00 PM
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Idk... My claim is 95+% of guys don't get to have a type
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:34 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:24 PM
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Yep, happened to me. Started to attract women, a decade later all i have to show is body dysmorphia and wasted time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:23 PM
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This guys speaks the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:21 PM
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Fucking amen man!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:19 PM
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If you don’t think taking care of your beard, showering, and working out don’t improve your looks I don’t know what to tell you. Going from 3 to a 4 with that makes no difference 🤦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:18 PM
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Those guys are cringe and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:14 PM
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Where the fuck you all live? 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:12 PM
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Most men don't need dating advice though. Really. They should be told they stand no chance lmao. often admit to not being social What if that's the least of my problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:10 PM
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Even if you give them advice on how to live a fulfilling life without women "How to get rich?" "Well, what if you focused on living better as a poor man?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:08 PM
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Because it's bullshit. Best advice is inactioanble: "pick better parents"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:07 PM
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I've been doing much more than that for a decade. It hasn't helped me one bit. Attraction is heavily genetical
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:04 PM
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Not the only, the biggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:03 PM
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Or men who like "blondes" or "brunettes". Every guy i know who says he only dates blondes or smth is usually some fat, stupid ugly dude who is chronically single or has an equally (or more) fat and ugly gf that is 10/10 times not blonde 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:50 PM
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Facial harmony as an indicator of genetic quality of those guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:48 PM
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So I’m not sure why advising guys to improve their appearance is a bigger ask than telling them “just leave it all behind and move to a different country, bro.” Hell, even getting some minor cosmetic surgery/dental work could be cheaper and less stressful. Idk, I'm planning a trip for 2 weeks to Saigon/Manilla this year or next year and just tindering, nightlifing out. It looks it'll cost me less than 2k alltogether. Luxurious stuff included. A simple nose job? Not under 5k. And it's not just my…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:46 PM
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If a guy is already basically fit, you’re right that building more muscle probably won’t matter to women. But if he’s fat or scrawny, it will certainly help. If being fat or scrawny is bad and getting fit will certainly help, than that makes your first statement useless, sonce fit guy is already good enough. But it's not like that. It MAY help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:42 PM
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We know, it's this or a prostitute (way too direct, no fantasy of being wanted...) or no sex 4 life. Plus, is a guy who won’t go to the gym really going to do all that? Have you? If not, why? I've been self improving (my looks, clothes etc) and gymming for a decade with no betterment. Ofc I'm bald, short and ugly, so makes sense why no improvment. Passportbroeing/geomaxing is my onpy hope. Well other than surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:30 PM
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I mean it reads like a profound, credible hypothesis/theory that i haven't heard before. It makes a lot of sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:26 PM
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This or be sexless for life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:17 PM
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I think it's the opposite. After a decade of improving my looks i still haven't found a single woman interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:16 PM
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Most guys would benefit from this advice the most, unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:13 PM
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But what if i did all that looks advice for a decade and still not finding a single woman attracted to me? Can't i acknowledge the bl*ck pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:13 PM
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But what if i did all that looks advice for a decade and still not finding a single woman attracted to me? Can't i acknowledge the bl*ck pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:12 PM
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It doesn't work, because you can't change your genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:11 PM
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Saved your comment. One of the best comments I've read on this insight in YEARS!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:51 PM
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Yes, that i agree. The male sex drive is stronger than hydrogen bond lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:38 PM
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if they are actually getting 0 interest fix something. I've been improving my looks for a decade. Have found exactly 0 women interested in this timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:26 PM
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Find the women who find you attractive It's my life mission lol, spending a decade at this, still haven't found 1. Tells you all you need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:22 PM
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Lmao, imagine believing that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:18 PM
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Have you not seen how desperate men are? It ain't happening Also, marriage rates would plummet because men who are not in the top 20% of attractiveness would not get married or comitt, leaving millions of women perpetually single. Billions*
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:16 PM
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W-O-M-E-N-A-R-E-N-O-T-I-N-T-O-M-E-N
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:14 PM
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Finally someone with the triple digit IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:08 PM
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If that was the case, nobody would have trouble dating or everybody would have trouble dating to the same extent. Yet we know attractive guys are dating multiple women, unattractive guys are getting 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:07 PM
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I have a thing for bald guys with a beard You are the second (maybe a third) girl that I've seen this stated on internet in a decade lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:55 PM
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Sure, but by definition almost half of people shouldn't date then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:49 PM
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If only I was the only one... Yeah I would have questioning my behavour lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:17 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:16 PM
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Oh, I got you covered
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:41 PM
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That means i wait 4 months so i get the 5th match so I can talk only to her 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:40 PM
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But I think that average guy with a decent profile will get more likes than a model with bad profile. Hahahahhahahaha 🤣🤣🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:39 PM
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Pathetic excuse 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:38 PM
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Ahahahahah what a just cute little world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:37 PM
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One match a month? Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:37 PM
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Lmao like that is happening 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:33 PM
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Ahahhahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:31 PM
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Definetly an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:30 PM
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Never got that except twirling with her hair, but she does that all the time so it doesn't mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:21 PM
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You'll need to be more concrete
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:18 PM
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They got settle bro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:17 PM
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That's what it looks like to you because you give off a certain energy. It's apparent from your posts. Yeah, cause you know me irl. It makes me wonder why i have so many friends of both sexes... Autism likely makes this difficult for you to see, but it's still true. I'm not autistic, i never said that, so how would you know? because there is a science behind "confidence" - which most people write off as the halo effect (but is actually much more than that). There is no science, confidence by def…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:55 PM
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They don't want it if the guy isn't hot enough, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:28 AM
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People don't even get it that 2 role is a joke of the first one 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:26 AM
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Except that's not the way it works It is. Even "face" is heavily dependent on body fat. Baldness can be leaned into, or fought (and most guys in their 20s aren't balding). I'm lean (have visible abs) and still ugly. It's not as simple as being lean = hot, you got to have genetics to have attractive face underneath fat. Not everybody is from USA, here in EU rarely anyone is fat. I was never fat. You are assuming everybody who complains about their look is some lazy unkempt fat fuck. What does lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:49 AM
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I’m not basing this on the dating app stats because that doesn’t paint a clear picture of the entire dating scene. Why not? It's the most common way people seek relationships. This is what I’m talking about, you guys take the 20% stat as gospel when there are so many people that have never touched a dating app in their life and do fine. It's way less than 20% lol. And there is not a lot of people that have never touched a dating app and still do fine, stop, you are embarassing yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:39 AM
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About reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:37 AM
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Oh I agree, it's a competition, which means there are winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:36 AM
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No the less attractive guy can't really compete
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:33 AM
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I'm just trying to change peoples minds. It's tough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:01 PM
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Brutal facts spewing bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:00 PM
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If looks were subjective everyone would be randomly attracted to people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:59 PM
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What are we defining as attraction? After controlling for age, probably half the men I see on a daily basis are attractive enough to fuck (assuming they don't ruin it for themselves when speaking to me). It's only when I start filtering for a relationship that most men get eliminated. You are def in minority. I'm never going to be attracted enough to want to fuck someone by looks alone. I need to at least speak to him first. Most men eliminate themselves by what they say lol Seems like providing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:33 PM
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You are very generous, I'd say it's 80 and I'm still being generous 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:29 PM
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Same percentage is in EU, and noone is fat here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:27 PM
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Dating app stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:25 PM
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If attraction was subjective, wouldn't likes on dating sties be more equally distributed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:22 PM
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It's harsher. More like top 5-10% based on stats
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:21 PM
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Are you from USA? Coz most guys here in EU are improving their looks 200mph
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:19 PM
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I have muscle too. It’s just about consistency and treating fitness like a marathon, not a sprint. If you can successfully create new habits, then you can create an exercise habit. Reading some books on habit building helped me do this. No it's not. It's about genetics lol. I've been training for 9 years consistently, hard, tracking my diet and still, I kid you not, there is a fucking girl that put pretty much same amount of muscles as me as a guy in just 2 years. She said herself she's got phen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:18 PM
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The most insulting thing you women do is when you flat out lie to our faces while I look over your shoulder behind you and can see the truth for myself. You are essentially telling us we are just too fucking stupid to not notice your lazy lies. This, more than anything, is the reason a lot of guys get pissed off, especially those of us who get to see the other side of women that the incels never get to see. Fucking amen brother! This is my beef with it, stop with the gaslighting! Do you think we…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:04 PM
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No it's not. Most attractive guys put way less effort in than i did. It's genetics that make someone attractive. But this breaks just world narrative completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:48 PM
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Everyone can only work with the stuff they’ve got, and boost their more conventionally attractive physical traits And how hard is it to understand we don't have much stuff to work with and we don't have conventionally attractive physical traits? Women study this shit religiously, you’d be surprised how much more attractive people can look when they style themselves well, get the right haircut and style for their face, get in shape, etc.. Most men don’t do those things. No they don't. I'd know it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:47 PM
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Most guys that struggle aren't decent looking (to women that is, they actually are)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:43 PM
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You don’t have to be huge to be attractive, just looking like you even go to the gym is attractive to a lot of women. Oh, definetly, it's just you also needed a decent facecard. Not being short and bald also. Both entirely out of your control. I had thoughts like this after I had my own glow up and got more fit. Being treated better made me feel bitter, but I realized that I also like attractive people too. At least you've glown up, most despite even more effort cannot. There simply isn't the ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:38 PM
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Extroverted enough 🤣😭 It's called hot enough honey
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:27 PM
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Lmao what a c*pe 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:24 PM
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Who d fuck is scared of women? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:23 PM
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Nope, most women meet men online
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:19 PM
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Oh sweet summer child! I wish the world would be as just as you suggest
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:16 PM
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There’s a guy in here who recently posted data showing that when you account for young couples who date within a 3-year age gap, which is most young couples, the rate of being single/taken for men and women is matched up. So the missing factor is likely the demographic of young women who date older men. Ok, this checks out only half of discrepancy tho. Ok but what dating data is there on men who specifically lift weights, dress and style themselves better, and have intact social circles that inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:12 PM
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Must be nice living in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:04 PM
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I was just meaning to explain this to her, thank you, you've done it even better!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:50 PM
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But also to add, I’ve witnessed men who’ve completely transformed themselves simply by putting on muscle, dressing better, and socializing outside more Well, hello there!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:49 PM
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Lmao, we wish it would work like dat 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:47 PM
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Because most well off men that I know are permasingle (cause they are average or bellow looking). Ok, mostly bellow, if you are average and well off you aren't permasingle, struggling at best. Most guys that I know that are good with women are extremely hot and none is making much more than minimum wage, a few are perma jobless lol. So it's not about the money (women work too) and it's about physicall attractivness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:32 PM
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Can't comment on Hinge. It doesn't exist where I'm from. But what you've said seems self inflicted and deserved 🤣 I don't think I've ever slept with a girl below my own level. Obviously it's subjective, but I can't think of one who I wouldn't consider genuinely attractive. Based on your stats you are GigaChad, not even Chad lol. And yet, you are one, others aren't as selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:29 PM
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There's a reason why "typical SEC couple" is a meme. I just googled it and for the life of me don't know what SEC stands for. I'm European. I knew some couples from college who absolutely fit the meme and they generally started as a hookup. All the hookups I've seen the guy was NEVER worse looking than the woman, I kid you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:25 PM
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Yes, biology
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:21 PM
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You are proving my point, we are fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:16 PM
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Just be tall too. I'm shirt, bald and ugly. But I'm groomed to a T and have abs. Doesn't matter at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:14 PM
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Agreed. Face > height > body >>> everything else combined
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:12 PM
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Never seen that, even with Chads lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:09 PM
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Ok, I agree with you. I've been around drunk women and they were still not attracted to me 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:09 PM
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Interesting I've never witnessed such thing in my life, totally unrelatable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:07 PM
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Most guys aren't unattractive because of lack of effort, they're because of things that are out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:51 PM
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How stupid does a person need to be to not see this??? Like this is a cornerstone of mating principles ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:49 PM
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Which just confirms women in general aren't into men that much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:42 PM
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Still the overwhelming part and the deciding fact. It is no surprise that men who do well with women irl also do it on tinder and vice versa and men who struggle irl also struggle on dating apps and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:38 PM
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Most men who pay don't get anywhere near the amount of matches that top 5% do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:36 PM
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Agreed, they aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:20 PM
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I mean, sure, exceptions confirm the rule. I was talking more about "All or nothing" phenomena seen is nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:14 PM
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I'm proud of my physique, but I'm not confident around girls because I know there are many guys with even better phisique (and taller). it might be achievment for me, compared to where I started. But girls don't care where I started, they "wait at the finish line and f*ck the winners". Wow, like you went into my brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:50 PM
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Confidence is. So being confident is enough for women to not need a preselection woman at your hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:43 PM
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The equivalent of a short ugly man (which is basically the worst combination) is a fat ugly woman. Yup before i was bald i was just ugly and short and fit. I could get ugly fat women. Now that I'm bald it's not even that. I went from bottom 40% to bottom 20%. Yey
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:38 PM
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You fail to understand that even ugly people find ugly people unattractive and attractive people attractive. Just like attractive or average people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:34 PM
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Shave your head, become fun to be around, lose the weight, get proportional, manage your money better/earn more of it. I literally have all those and it's def not enough. It's about your genes. You can still be ugly because poor facecard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:32 PM
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I just made a comment of breakdown of brackets. You would be some where in the top 20-40% depending on your success. What you said made no sense. I'm skinny but it's not about that lol. It's about your genetic quality. You are talking about styles, lifestyles, niches... I mean, you aren't wrong about it, but still within those "subcultures", genetical fitness will still be the deciding factor of the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:31 PM
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they focus on being in that upper 10%, and ignore that ~80% are attractive to at least someone. Oh we dissagree. 5% of men are pretty much universally liked and top 20% have at least few women that are interested every year. There are at most 40% of dudes that could get at least one woman attracted to them over the course of a few years (I'm probably here, or at least used to be lol, since i struggle af and still had 2 exes as 29yo), and 60-70% of guys are tolerable to settle in their 30ies. Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:23 PM
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Sure, I'm only attracted to a fairly small percentage of men, maybe around 20% at most. But the 20% I am personally attracted to is somewhat different than the 20% another woman is attracted to. I will admit there are likely some dudes who very few if any women find attractive, and that there's probably some dudes that are almost universally attractive to most women. Exactly, the overlap is BIG.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:17 PM
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Every woman generally likes 5-7% of men, but the vast majority of the 5-7% of men women like, are generally all kn the top 20% of men. Finally someone who gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:15 PM
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It's more likely 5-10% if we are being genorous. Don't try with that ol' "but mist men are married with children" bs, since settling is most common coupling (in the past)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:15 PM
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If your country average is 5'0 tall man, than 6' are more than likely non existant. In that country being 5'5 is tall af.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:13 PM
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You don't need everyone to like you just to be liked by someone. For sure, but it doesn't work like that. Also, people lower on the curve get too defeatist, thinking that just because most women don't find them attractive that none will. But that isn't how that works. It literally is. You are either wanted by a fuckton of women or most likely, none.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:11 PM
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You are extremely genorous with % it's waaay less, just look at the dating app stats. Can't really argue with it. Most common is the women settling in her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:10 PM
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Every women that i know that watches porn complains if the dude isn't hot, 100% rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:07 PM
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Show
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:06 PM
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Lmfao 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:05 PM
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and look at where it is going. To the gutter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:58 AM
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No, look at the youth, nobody gives a fuck when you are old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:56 AM
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Settling is a very common thing so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:53 AM
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sexual liberation broke that mindset by proving women enjoy sex just as much as men do. They do, some probably even more than men, but most don't as equally as men. Otherwise we would be fucking like gays do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:43 AM
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That's funny, constantly sorounded by drunk and high women, somehow they still don't get blind 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:20 AM
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Lots of men have unrealistic expectations. When you see men online complaining that they can't get sex/relationships, that's typically because they don't have realistic expectations. If they lowered their standards to a level of woman they can get, they wouldn't be sexless/alone. Yeah, don't speak for average man, you seem to have no grasp of their reality. This couldn't be further from the truth. Most guys if they wanna have sex can barely get fat unkempt girl that is several leagues behind. Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:19 AM
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Wrong. I know how to play it, but got dealt shit cards. I'd say you can get great cards and not know how to play and still doing better than those that know how to play but got shit cards. Infact those who have been dealt shit cards, are more incentivised to learn the rules of the game since they keep losing, so they need every leverage they can. At one point you realise it's better to quit playing since your cards are so shit that statistically you'll never win the game. What was the commenter …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:16 AM
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I mean, viable men (aka attractive) are always favored since they are minority. Most guys are not even competitive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:57 AM
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No it wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:55 AM
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No shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:54 AM
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You proved that guy's point 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:44 AM
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Do you believe you as a 5/10 guy can get 5/10 girl for hookups and 5/10 girl for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:42 AM
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didn't find them particularly attractive but was offered sex and I took it. Damn dude, this never happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:41 AM
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🤣🤣🤣 it's so funny how women are uninformed about reality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:40 AM
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No shit Sherlock
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:39 AM
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Coz it's more fullfilling for a guy - she makes herself very easy, she adores you, is more kinky... On the other hand she will not adore/worship you, she'll lay there, she'll put up some more defenses and usually still expect dates etc. I hope i cleared that up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:25 AM
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Bruuutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:48 AM
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I'd like to pay with my genes too...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:41 AM
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It's realistically conflicted
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:31 AM
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On dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:28 PM
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Well good thing what men consider attractive and what women consider attractive differs. You don't need to take steroids to elevate your looks. Unless a guy has really unfortunate genetics that he can't put on any muscle or lose fat, regular workouts will do. I have abs and still in healthy BMI range so i got some muscles but not much. I've reached my genetic limit Still, I think those men should opt out for hair transplant if they can. My hair looked shit before and i have sebborheic dermatitis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:27 PM
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Or are you upset that you aren’t the one pumping and dumping them in their 20’s? This
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:11 AM
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Too many ugly guys to choose from lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:08 AM
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No, having golddiggers is pretty bad for your mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:36 AM
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Oh, fair
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:35 AM
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Just move bro is advice that should be given to most men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:34 AM
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I agree with last statment, can't with first point coz i don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:32 AM
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22 is insane... Try a model and he won't go over 30+ lmao I mean even top 10% is not average guy, yet top 1% is completely different level. I still stand. I imagine really attractive women aren't "desperately" easy. As someone else said, they want to feel like a god, ego stroked and 0 "resistance", games, bs. Some kinks and shit. That just won't happen with equally attractive women, it needs to be imbalance for the powerplay to play. Some guys are just lazy. I'd probably go for easy average girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:34 PM
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The thing is, what if they don't wanna keep hooking up? Also getting 20+matches is top1% or less, extremely uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:16 PM
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Many unattractive men have gotten into relationships Yeah like me. Oh, don't get me wrong, i wanted to cheat. It's just i couldn't. That's my point. I don't pretend I'm an angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:13 PM
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but when a guy with a lot of options picks a fat woman over his conventionally attractive options who are also readily available, that's a strong indicator that he prefers big women. Yep, and that very very very rarely happens. But yeah, watch people who can, what they do. Not people who claim what would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:49 PM
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Lmao no it wouldn't be. Women find the vast majority of guys unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:47 PM
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Less than 10 yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:46 PM
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What if you are bald?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:46 PM
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Extremely small % that prefer over fit/skinny women. Usually they just say that to increase those small options they have... Scat porn also exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:06 PM
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That doesn't make sense from supply&demand standpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:04 PM
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Ofc it is, they struggled af if they even got a gf lmao, you are crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:02 PM
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I thought we are talking about equaly attractive guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:02 PM
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Same taking bluepill advice to get female friends will make you blackpilled af 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:53 PM
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Yeah, touch grass, unironically lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:48 PM
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Not anywhere close. If this was really true, we wouldn't have this inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:46 PM
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Waaaaay easier i assume. Like she wants anal, screams, no condom, and the hot one wants expensive dinner date, let's you wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:43 PM
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Interesting, my brother's roommate was a literal Chad (very attractive face, shredded, tall, broad shoulders...) yet he once brought up home a fattie 🤣 When "confronted" by my bro, he said "she was super into me, she was easy, they respect you more"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:42 PM
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Interesting, my brother's roommate was a literal Chad (very attractive face, shredded, tall, broad shoulders...) yet he once brought up home a fattie 🤣 When "confronted" by my bro, he said "she was super into me, she was easy, they respect you more"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:42 PM
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Yeah, i never saw that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:38 PM
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She gets off on being his personal fleshlight, and he gets off seeing what and how far he can get away with. This is what he cannot comprehend
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:34 PM
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Again, they aren't as easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:32 PM
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Attractive women aren't as easy 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:30 PM
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Just hit the genetic lottery bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:12 PM
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They can't. They don't get the chance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:11 PM
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Brutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:04 PM
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Welcome to the experience of 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:51 PM
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It's better to be able to be pain free, able to walk, see, open your mouth and you know have a few extra tens of thousands ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:50 PM
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Have you gotten choosing signals from women before? Wtf? Do men really get that? 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:45 PM
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Same except i was never fat to begin with. I'm also bald so fml
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:43 PM
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If you aren't fat, you're half way there So what's the other half?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:36 PM
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Yeah but what do you mean by game/rizz?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:39 PM
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Damn, are you from USA then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:39 PM
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Just move to a third world country bro! I've been improving my looks for a decade. I'm just slightly less ugly (well arguably, I'm older now) started to bald and still the same height
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:39 AM
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I'm from EU, basically all women agreed to the date first then when the time was nearing they almost always came with excuses 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:17 AM
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No woman is attracted to me. In the same boat as other 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:07 AM
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Incels? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:02 AM
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Because 51% was botched 1 or 3 years earlier results, 60% is rounded and 63% is latest data for US and correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:49 AM
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Facecard, the most important one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:54 AM
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Do we say "incels" interchangebly with "guys who wanna get laid but can"? No, we say incel cause it's short lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:54 AM
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That there's no checklist like red pillers have always claimed? That attraction is complex and variable? If attraction is complex, then what is quantum mechanics then? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:44 AM
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And they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:40 AM
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They have the same exact other options as the men do. Uglier partners. Who is gonna tell her? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:38 AM
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It's not about being in shape lol, it's about the face. If this was true you must be pretty old lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:47 AM
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Because we are being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:48 AM
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That means 95% of men would die as virgins 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:48 AM
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It is too harsh if it leaves out 95% of men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:47 AM
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men are lucky that they're mostly judged on musculature (that also affects face). We aren't. Body is massively overrated, women care waaaay more about the face. And mysculature doesn't affect face, wtf??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:45 AM
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There's nothing more shallow than desiring hot girls while not putting in effort to look good yourself Putting in effort doesn't mean you will be attractive. Don't ask me how i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:44 AM
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Do you believe such man is attractive to some other woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:28 AM
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Wooow, that's rare af
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:27 AM
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And did you manage to become attractive? My bet is on no, since these things are genetical because of cutthroat competititon. Everybody is improving their looks like life depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:21 AM
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Redpill is cope for lowIQ men 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:16 AM
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so now go work on being part of that group of guys they are attracted to. You can't work your way to there lol, this is genetical and/or circumstancial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:14 AM
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Dude dropped the truth bomb 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:06 AM
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Nobody does that in real life. It looks cakey in real life. It does, i see caked up women all the time. Yeah, well done make up can slightly elevate someone's look, just like a good rest or drinking enough water Lmao drinking enough water or sleeping enough is the same as makeup? 🤣 The tools are, long hair and being thin. Any woman will automatically look better if she's thin/fit and has longer hair. A tiny minority of women look good with short hair, and they always are already extremely hot. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:42 AM
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I've seen some women looking plain mid or bellow without makeup. Also, you provided no tools, when i asked
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:13 PM
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Ugly guys are getting girls that much we know From where?? Do we live on the same planet?? You can be the most attractive guy and girls will still not sleep with you without work. Yes, they will. You just download tinder. If you are really attractive a ton of women are dtf, write you first, inviting you over etc... There has been countless tinder experiments like this to say otherwise. I think word got around about the fact that I was "safe" (In bed, I can't think of any other reason) and I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:32 AM
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Damn ! That sucks ! Thx, welcome to my world. At least u have abs. Yeah, completely pointless. The disconnect is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:28 AM
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Makeup doesn't change someone's appearance drastically Yeah... Can't talk to someone who seriously believes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:23 AM
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Short, bald, and a bit ugly too, yeah. Not overweight, I have abs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:29 PM
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Oh, i was thinking about asking, but i went with that instead. Guess it was a wrong move, so: what those tools are, I'm pretty sure I exhausted those over a decade
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:28 PM
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Lol ok, that is location dependant isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:26 PM
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Loads and loads of money, like millionares
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:23 PM
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I'm not virgin. I'm single, but that doesn't mean much. Chads are single too yet they have casual sex for example. One can be single and trying or one can be saying voluntarily. It's different
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:22 PM
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Ugly ones can't cheat because they aren't in relationship in the first place 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:20 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:19 PM
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Not very, just bellow average still.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:19 PM
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You still need facecard so...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:11 PM
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How are you bluepilled? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:06 PM
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Let me tell you how it is: women are attracted to small minority of men and those men are spoiled by choices (we got studies and dating app stats) so they literally try to see how much bullshit women tolerate. I mean why would they care about some Becky, when there are 20+ more equvivalents ready to jump on his dick right away? (such guys DO exist, I've been roommates with them and a few other examples. Other guys just don't register like, they are invisible 😂 So the OP is correct in his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:05 PM
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And it's a lie (well maybe they are that stupid to actually believe in it)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:58 PM
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Because women think that if you shower, get a haircut and do skincare routine and hitting the gym for a few months makes you a model 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:57 PM
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Yeah, and the second is truth. I pity the guys not getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:56 PM
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Yeah, i've never seen that among the youth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:53 PM
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I don't spend time on that forum (used to visit it a few times yeeears ago) and I'm tehnicaly an incel (wish to have a single woman attracted to me)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:43 PM
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Not really since I've been improving my looks for a decade to no avail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:39 PM
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Lmao 🤣 delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:38 PM
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I did talk to few, but ofc some stranger knows better than me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:37 PM
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Wdym with game?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:50 PM
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Yeah, so why gaslighting incels it's their personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:48 PM
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That she is shallow? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:47 PM
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What I would suggest is also to add to ur fyp looksmaxing videos and women who admire men's bodies videos to balance your fyp out with a wide range of pov. 🤣🤣🤣 Like that is any better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:29 PM
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Women on average are better looking then men. They take better care of themselves because there's societal pressure to to so. No matter how much you jerk off to Chad, there's much less expectation for a guy to be hot. Men don't even have the tools to make ourselves more attractive (make up is an obvious one)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:18 PM
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Now if you look in a woman's eyes that increases sexual tension. You believe this, if the guy is ugly? 😂 As a man who accidentally got laid a lot I can attest. Lmao noone gets laid a lot by accident, you are either lying or you are pretty damn attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:07 PM
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It's very rare and specific, usually virgins and for marriage. Got any link for otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:00 PM
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It is, but what woman was paid 1billion for a nightstand? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:56 PM
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Nope, same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:55 PM
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Can't decide if i should upvote you or downvote you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:50 PM
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Reality. Wall is just a poor cope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:48 PM
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Sure, but genetic quality remains in those different phenotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:43 PM
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Things like high sociosexual skills or status factor in more than looks when it comes to women's unstated preferences. Hahahaha, you are in for a rough awakening 😂 So she'll date guys who don't meet any of the criteria on her list, just because they have game or good dick or social popularity. Lmao @ game. Buddy, stop using Internet Explorer, we are in 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:42 PM
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Then why would you need wealth then? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:07 PM
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Wealth yeah. Gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:43 AM
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Exactly, snowbunnies
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/25 12:10 AM
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And snowbunnies
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/25 12:09 AM
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i have already improved myself to my best of my ability. Now i have just come to peace with it. Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:26 AM
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She can be, but it's less common for sure. Take a look in EU, a lot of 30-40yo women are damn hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:50 AM
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other namby pamby service industry Lmao, so real 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:46 AM
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Men don't have to honestly if he puts in the work. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:44 AM
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women seem to have no issue being interested in other women, so that kinda seems to cancel the theory out perhaps They can't get pregnant
/r/BlackPillScience31/07/25 03:35 AM
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one would have thought nature could have done a better job at making things more even lookswise. One thinks this is because overreproduction concerns?
/r/BlackPillScience30/07/25 04:52 PM
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Just get a line bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:32 PM
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You are lucky, you turned out goodlooking getting lean. I was never fat, but I'm pretty damn lean for quite some time and my facial bones are dogshit. So i wasn't lucky. I have abs, delt veins...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:33 PM
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Boohoo, you think you are the only lean guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:20 PM
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Lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:03 PM
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Did you become attractive after the effort? Like did it make you glow up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:10 AM
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Lol, you know what i meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:28 AM
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Yes they do more often then not of course you will find ones that dont but majority of women will you just gotta find them. I have multiple friends with fancy cars. They all yap how they get women looking, but when i'm with them i don't see it 😂 I'm not from US
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:28 AM
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Lmao, i tmjust tried to pour in some nuance, and downvoting was probably automatic/autopilot, don't sweat
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:26 AM
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They tell you that, but they actually don't. I've seen my guy friends 2-3 bc at best for most of them by age 25
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:39 AM
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Is that wrong? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:38 AM
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Players are genetically attractive guys. They don't fall for their car lmao, not younger girls, they don't give a fuck about money lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:37 AM
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But are you attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:35 AM
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Well, i don't believe it's hard to be attractive. Like meaning as effort... You are either born with it or not. I am the living example, been improving my looks for a decade and lifting for 9 and I don't find it hard in terms of effort. It does take discipline and time to stay lean, consistent build muscle and groom yourself everyday but I'm still not attractive enough. My stance is: it doesn't take a skill to win a genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:42 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:36 PM
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Yeah of course but even the top 1% doesnt have it as easy as the average women. True, but it is as close as it is gonna get.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:35 PM
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And IRL is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:21 PM
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Finally someone with triple digit IQ. I'd say face has more relevance than height in general but being extremely short 5'0 or lower.. yeah model face just won't compensate enough. And it's not just these two that affect physicall attractivness the most. Also skeletal frame, body proportions. And like you said it's harmony. You need everything to some degree, some features are more relevant than others. You have styling/voice/smell that makes a bit of difference too but it's not that heavy in rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:39 PM
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It's not based on whole population lol. It's within dating environments. If you’re average but young — Download tinder. Upload good pictures. Talk to women. Have some fun. It’s not rocket science. Lmao, are you for real? They won't be able to talk to women firstly because they'll barely get any matches, secondly it's gonna be hard since they won't have any leverage over other matches that probably ain't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:25 PM
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Most guys can't get to double digits in their lifetime 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:16 PM
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It already exist, i think it is promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:09 PM
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Also women can be fooled into sleeping with a man if he pretends to be something hes not or promises things then doesnt deliver. Nowadays, they don't buy that shit no more 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:07 PM
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So yeah its easier if you are a attractive man but you usually have to be very attractive or a celeb to have it anywhere near as easy as a woman does getting laid. Yes, this!! Attractivness is a spectrum. You can be barely attractive and it's still not gonna be easy, but if you are top 1% attractive it is gonna be veeeery easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:38 AM
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I just asked him to clarify, i'm confused. It can and does work without skills tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:34 AM
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Actually the correct term for men is player and its looked at highly since it takes skill to pull off most of the time. There really are no downsides to being any type of attractive especially as a man. So being attractive is a skill? Are we talking about physical, genetical attractivness even? I'm very confused since this is an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:33 AM
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Is it really that hard for you? My other friends that I think are just kinda average like me do fine too. Pretty good looking chicks whenever they put in a good amount of effort. We’re all pretty sociable and put together though. That’s all the info I got for ya Are we talking about online dating, specifically dating apps? In what way are they average? What would be an example of a good amount of effort? Besides, getting them on a date is different than hooking up with them. Also most guys wanna…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:30 AM
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Being white in OLD gives the person a massive advantage, even if the height or other factors are lacking. Yeah, but that only works if you live somewhere where at least 10-20% of population is a racial minoritys. I'm from a country that's 99+% white, so you have no real advantage. Also a body count in the 30+ is definitely in "universal appeal" territory, I'd say. You would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:27 AM
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I’m 5’8 with an aesthetic physique and okay face and can find a date on tinder or bumble within a week of deciding I want one. Because height is secondary to face + usually overrated (unless 5'5 or less). But height does have a big factor still. And 5'8 is short only if you are otherwise average. Otherwise is just a minor nerf (you lose against equally jacked and goodlooking tall dudes). Tho would love to ask, do you reveal your height in the bio, after some talking or never aka revealed on a da…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:02 AM
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Why you shaming my sexual fantasies? Comment wasn't weird, wewere talking about sexuality tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:47 AM
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Yeah and an unattractive guy who can make people laugh can still get ladies Only in Lalaland
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:14 PM
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Adjust your standards if you aren’t getting results. As a guy with abs... Yeah i think hand is better than fat unkempt women ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:13 PM
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Lmao we just do be horny xD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:47 AM
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My father was married (i mean he still is) and he didn't get flirted everin his 40ies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:43 AM
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I think there was a tinder experiment with model and in bio he said he lacks confidences, is shy and afraid of girls... He still got a fuckton of girls messanging him first that it's okay and bla bla bla
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:08 PM
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Type it on an app?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:06 PM
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Dissagree. He can make stranger women come to their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:52 PM
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If you act according to the truth, then you know giving up is a lot of times the only winning move
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:49 PM
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An attractive man without confidence won't get it either. Except he will
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:53 AM
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Or not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:50 AM
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Lol, nature did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:49 AM
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Lmao, this is a blackpill argument 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:48 AM
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because so many average guys refuse to make any effort to be desirable to a woman What do you mean? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:01 AM
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I get hit on more now than I ever did when I was in my 20s. Yeah sure, 40yo get it on, yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:48 AM
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Ugly guy can hold as many frames as he want.. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:27 AM
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Similarly to how there are workouts for women that target glutes and thighs instead of making them look mannish, there can be different makeup for men that makes them masculine instead of womanly. Hollywood already does this. You know what both things have in common? Subtleness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:06 AM
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They are attracted to the narcissistic bravado No they aren't. Your analytical skills are dogshit; Ugly guy with nacissistic bravado will get rejected for being 'arrogant'. Hot guy with with the same bravado will get success as he is 'confident'. Ugly guy being reserved will get rejected as he is invisible. Hot guy being reserved is gonna have success cause he is "mysterious". Therefore we can conclude being hot is what matters. If you were correct ugly guys with narcissistic bravado would fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:04 AM
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So looks absolutely do matter. If you look at the mirror and see a ugly person there you can change it. Go get a haircut, hit the gym, remove your acnes, grow your beard to a attractive level (if you have one), if your nose is bad get a surgery etc. Its better to take action than to complain all day. I've been doing these things for a decade. I'm still not attractive. It doesn't do much, if your face is bad, it's bad. Surgeries also aren't magical. Read: limited
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:56 AM
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And also pure confidence will not gonna cut it if you are ugly. That's bla*kpill tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:53 AM
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What a fantasy bro 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:50 AM
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Perfect comment!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:40 AM
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That's not redpill that's bla*kpill
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:35 AM
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Yup agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:34 AM
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Rap is blackpill tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:21 AM
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Nor for the physically unfortunate. That's bla*kpill in essence 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:21 AM
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Lol, what a case study projection. Blackpillers know this and when they say it out loud they get shunned
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:17 AM
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Yes they do, go on any mainstream sub, they gaslight you to hell and back
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:27 AM
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Lmao that's the gaslighting i was talking about 🤣 No, it's just you can't improve much, how attractive you are is mostly determined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:26 AM
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I do get told things explicitly... No room for interpretation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:18 AM
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Well i would countinue to use if my wife would stop jumping on my dick, so... The only reason i didn't use is because my exes drained my balls so i couldn't be horny anymore 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:17 AM
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No one said confidence alone attracts women Are you kidding me? 🤣 Most women say that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:03 PM
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You can make yourself more attractive. Haircut, clothes, fitness, skincare, all the things women do, men can do too. Bullshit. I've been improving my looks for a decade. And I'm not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:40 PM
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Majority of guys are being settled for. Men want women more than women want men. This isn't the case as much anymore which is seen in singleful genZ. 63% of young guys are single, while only 34% of gals are single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:37 PM
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Because we get gaslight af
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:32 PM
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Well, now we are speaking!! Not the usual gaslighting.. it's actually insulting to women - it suggests women are blind 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:21 PM
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I didn't get anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:19 PM
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Lol, I didn't mean like that. I mean, fact is they rather fuck a dildo than you 💀 thats a brutal pill to swallow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:18 PM
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I do. Well, I did. I've given up, it's literally impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:15 PM
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Dm me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:44 PM
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Fuck, TIL i'm a truecel 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:39 PM
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You don't. You are either born with it (or with a potential) or not, but that's it. You have to be physically attractive, no way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:34 PM
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I did?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:28 PM
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For real, the amount of guys that say "i'm pretty attractive but barely get any matches" is hilarious 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:03 PM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:57 AM
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Who wants love? Some of us want lust
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:56 AM
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And most of us can't even get to that point ... To be valuable as a dildo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:55 AM
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Bla*kpill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:45 AM
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Because being conventionally attractive, isn't enough for women Lol, try tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:43 AM
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Redpill is low IQ. It literally states women are blind 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:30 AM
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Just change your sexuality bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:56 AM
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Most women are conditioned, trough societal judgment mostly + it's very hard to pull off winning both times - eg having an attractive guy creamping you a few times is the easiest part, but having a child from before and getting a rich kinda decent looking willing loving guy to take role as a step-dad is very difficult to pull off. I believe only 5-10% of women could make it happen. Overall, having kids with the same person you are in relationship longterm/married isby far the most convinient opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:37 PM
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Times were different man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:25 PM
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Bla*kpill dropped
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:52 PM
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Sex is easy. No it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:46 PM
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Never heard of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:52 PM
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Lmao bingo of lingo 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:50 PM
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I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:49 PM
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🤫 Ye.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:15 PM
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Personal experience, not internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:42 PM
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Personal experience, not internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:42 PM
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Reading this sub for awhile, now, I am repeatedly struck not by how different men and women are but how similar they are when give agency and sexually similar freedoms. L analytical skills
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:37 PM
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You are top 10% in most delusional redditors i've ever witnessed 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:35 PM
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I see who we are talking too 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:49 PM
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Nah, my roomate fucked another roomate and she wanted more, yet he rejected her (she slept with a few others roomates on our floor and they all knew about each other). She had teary eyes and visibly sad when she came out of the room. Well she married another roomate. Poor sucker didn't knew about others...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:45 PM
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Only if you consider being used for recreational sex by someone whose bored with vibrators winning? Yes? 🤨 Where's the catch?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:40 PM
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He knows, everybody knows but fights the truth as it is anathemic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:14 PM
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It would fuck up society, are you crazy? Why do you think there is one pill that's literally forbiden on this sub, let alone others lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:13 PM
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Lol I'm the first guy then 🤣. I was on only two first dates in my life and scored on both. Can't get a single date after the last one tho (almost 3 years fml 🥲)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:12 PM
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Probably... I mean as I said, was drunk af waaay too many times without anything lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:49 PM
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All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares ;) Most guys that hooked up were drunk, but most drunk guys didn't hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:29 PM
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😂 the last one was on reddit, but local sub not this one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:13 PM
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So how many times your friends hooked up? And age, that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:08 PM
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Square, rectangle?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:05 PM
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Having casual sex is not mistreatment. Assumin' consense ofcourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:01 PM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:59 PM
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I agree that attractive women only hook up with "Chad", but plenty of my average looking friends have casually fucked average looking women. Damn, that sounds fair. I'd love that to be true but in my experience it's more like very very sparse hookups (once every few years) and even then they are bellow average women. Or maybe I'm just ugly 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:14 PM
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Average men who hate women, who pressure for sex on the first date and then despise the woman who allows it, though? I was on only 2 first dates in my life and on both i fucked. I never thank of those girls as sluts, i loved it. I continue to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:12 PM
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They're engaging in less casual sex because they're consuming less alcohol. Alcohol is a big contributor to casual sex. Not being able to get ONS is a big hidden flex: it means you never had sex with drunkasfuck women, and maybe never even tried. Attractivness is a big contributor to casual sex. I've been drunk way too many times in my life and have exactly 0 casual sex partners. I'm not the only one. Most average looking guys are at 0 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:09 PM
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Brutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:35 AM
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Dude said to me, most of his male friends have absolutely zero problems getting a date and hooking up...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:04 AM
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A lot of guys who are ‘hook up material’ are emotionally avoidant, have a ‘detached unobtainable’ vibe which makes them mysterious and attractive. They also aren’t needy and don’t approval seek. Holy c*pe!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:25 PM
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Just live in big city and pay a fee bro! Yes, i am very attractive, but that is not the reason why. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:31 AM
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could have 2 new sex partners a week if i wanted to. So are you saying you are very attractive? Coz if not, you couldn't have that (unless very very rich and/or famous)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:22 PM
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I can only tell you what i need to do concretely Would appreciate it, maybe i get idea
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:30 PM
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Ughhh i had the whole comment typed out already... I'll try to summarize based on memory... Thanks for the link, it was a good (and long lol) read. Ofc extraversion wins over introversion, especially in the past when there was no internet (some of studies mentioned are quite old). It's the equivalent of excpecting a job when you didn't even apply (they didn't even know you exist. Now it is very possible to get headhunted via linkedin.) I also believe that many people stop going out when they see…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:42 PM
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Thank you, will check that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:45 AM
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You said nothing concrete
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:44 AM
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Thank you! 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:59 PM
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I should've picked better parents 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:44 PM
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You should lurk more. The studies are discussed regularly. I do, haven't seen not even one. You used to swipe on apps. Never done anything else Nope, haven't been on apps in 6 years. My last relationship wasn't on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:44 PM
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have seen the studies to back that up. I'd love to see them too. I suggest that even unanttractive men can have lots of casual sex, when they put in the effort. Ok, what kind of effort exactly are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:42 PM
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Ok, smartypants, what should i do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:39 PM
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Watch Rehab Room's explanation of this phenomenon. Try being ugly "bad boy". It won't have any appeal, you are just monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:51 AM
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This is what i said: "Where? Well how is it our fault we aren't in the top 10% of attractivness?" And then you responded "oh, i got excited coz i thought you said you were one"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:49 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:51 AM
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Most men on that app seemed to only want sex Yes, probably true. But again, what makes you think they wanted to just cum in you, without you enjoying it? I get the sucking dick thing tho... I'm not a woman, so i guess its different but i would be totally down to just eat pussy, while i get to be naked or clothed but she doesn't touch my dick at all. Hot af ngl 🥵... I do get that kink of dominating a woman too tho.. guess I'm a switch lmao. That said, if a woman doesn't cum or she just doesn't en…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:17 PM
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I've given up this year. I'm tired, defeated. I've given up because I'm not insane. Do you know the definition of insanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:00 PM
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How is 68% of men being in committed relationships currently a sign of average men struggling af at dating? Fair point. I might be different than others, but i don't see - being in commited relationship/married as a sign of not struggling in dating. I've been told by many of my male friends in relationships that they wish they could casually fuck. They tell me about their problems in relationship and lack of bedroom. They still put up with it because they know that getting sex as a guy is insane…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:56 PM
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How naive does one have to be to believe that? You are seriously suggessting women are blind? That ugly guys with attractive personality are fucking like crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:41 PM
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you are a niceguy You don't know me 😂 good for friendships, not attractive for relationships. Bingo. It's important to have an attractive personality Can't make thisvshit up 😂 and it helps when you prioritize having sex to have lots of sex. I used to, that got me ghosted real fast. We have studies that prove it, that attractiveness/height only weakly correlate with number of sex partners. Would love to see them, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:39 PM
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Weren't we talking about looks? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:32 PM
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💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:31 PM
1

💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:31 PM
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With your comment. Basically "oh, i thought you were hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:17 AM
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You don't know me. If personality would be an issue, i wouldn't have female friends and bad people wouldn't be in relationships. Google just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:15 AM
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You mean for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:10 AM
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Average men struggle af at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:10 AM
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Rip you? Rip me, lowkey insulted me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:07 AM
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"work" as in sex "work". Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:03 AM
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Well I'm asking, how do you know they want to sexually "use" you vs. Having an enjoyable mutual pleasing sexual activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:23 AM
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Well, as a guy, it's insanely hard to get a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:21 AM
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Yes, you didn't enjoyed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:25 PM
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What about other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:25 PM
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Some guys do majority of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:23 PM
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Im a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:22 PM
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I mean i don't even qualify so..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:18 PM
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💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:16 PM
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Standards? For sure, they're more realistic, yet too high in practice looks like it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:14 PM
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I mean... Guilty tbh.. i tried but i couldn't 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:09 PM
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