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Men are heterosexuals and women are Chasexuals 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:43 PM
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However you turn it around - most women are not into most men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:33 PM
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Based answer
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:32 PM
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It's cope but also somewhat true Given that men are waking up and realizing that 95+% of them are just sexually unattractive... It's not that much of a cope than it is reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:21 PM
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Funny, i have opposite experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:15 AM
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Based and bleakpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:04 AM
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But the most important factor is face not money or body or education. Eastwick et al made that pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:00 AM
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Yeah losers of the genetic lottery
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:51 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:31 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:27 AM
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Huh? I thought this was common sense??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:27 AM
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Men*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:41 PM
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Sure, agreed. But the underlying motivation is not rational, it's primal reproduction urge that is the underlying motivation. Guys that hookup with women on the reg tend to be super goodlooking, significantly above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:40 PM
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If it were just me, that would be true, it would mean I'm gigachoppenhauer. Given that average man can't get sex unlike average woman whenever he or she wants, suggests that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:30 PM
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"Low cost" of reproduction --> maximizing your chances for passing genes --> breed "everything" you see 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:28 PM
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Did you miss my emoticon? It's funny. If i weren't a virgin myself it would unironically describe me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:26 PM
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Ooff... A lot of them, none is really effective 😂 Porn, workaholism, locking in on hobbies, alcohol, drugs, gymcelling, some games... You?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:23 PM
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A) we reduce male libido B) we increase female libido What do you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:33 PM
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This is biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:18 PM
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That's the point. Average man isn't attractive while average woman is. This asymetry is the source of all problems in dating. Period. Anyone feel free to debate me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:03 PM
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Biology determined that is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:00 PM
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Depends on the face. Height and weight doesn't mean much, except in extremes - they can just be an automatic negative ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:59 PM
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If body would be the metric then i would be pretty above average. But it's not, unfortunately. It's the face and mine is (bellow) average. Sorry, you didn't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:55 PM
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Yeah but most guys can get uncommited sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:12 PM
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Yeah but the pickiness is completely biological programming because of unequivalent reproductive cost. The game was planned rigged from the start!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:07 PM
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Lmao 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:03 PM
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Women dgaf, men are sexless because of this. It's only a problem when women gaslight us that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:02 PM
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I'm literally fit with abs, somewhat status job with a STEM degree. You think i'm above average? 🤣 Only double digit people think body is the attraction maker. The face is orders of magnitudes more important. Even height is more important than the body. And even skeletal frame is more important than body in terms of visual appeal, aesthetics. And hadn't touched a woman in almost 4 years too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:47 PM
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Because a man would want to have sex with a woman they think is average. This is telling. I mean i know these things a lot for quite some time. It's the origin of the dating problem. The libido asymetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:42 PM
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What about this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:38 PM
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That's because 20%bf is fat. Fuck it I'm 15% rn and feel somewhat fat. You have to know one thing. Buffer fat percentage zone. Most people need to be bellow 15 or even 12 % to look fit in clothes, because if you are a typical natty you'll look meh in clothes almost all the time, so there is just not much difference if you are 18 or 28% bf because naturally there just won't be tons of muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:33 PM
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Being fit is insanely overrated. Face is much much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:27 PM
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Bs, you couldn't saw him, he's invisible! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:16 PM
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No, they're just ugly 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:15 PM
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Don't flatter yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:14 PM
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I got you covered
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:14 PM
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You can’t just put a picture on a dating app and expect a never-ending supply of women to magically fall in your lap. Some guys literally experience that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:10 PM
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I think that I might go that route since I am pretty sure that I won't get what I want from a LTR and don't have what I takes to get ONS/FWB so be it. Same brotha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:01 PM
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Your flair is textbook oxymoron 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:56 AM
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Imagine no man would want you. This is experience of a vast majority of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:50 AM
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Yeah??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:17 AM
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Average people don't die out because men are not picky enough 🙊
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:06 AM
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Finally, talking about by far the most important factor in dating - the face™
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:52 AM
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I'm top 1% commenter (not on this sub) "constantly complaining about women", have an above average pay and 10% bf (clearly visible abs). I don't see, how that is impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:52 AM
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Subconciously there is always a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:44 AM
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US isn't the whole (western) world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:43 AM
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Im a guy who receives a relatively large amount of attention when out mainy from girls im not into Damn, some can't even get to this point 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:33 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:12 PM
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Lmao "guys you don't need to have sex at all"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:09 PM
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Go hang out at a dive bar. Some bar fly will want casual sex. Hmmm... I did that, never happened. You are a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:08 PM
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Yes?? You are really weird
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:07 PM
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Except, most dudes do fuck. They do because they invest/pay/compensate for it. Most guys don't get it freely, out of true women lust
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:03 PM
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When i was young I and most young guys still didn't get hookups, what are you on about? I could get serious relationships tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:51 PM
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Oh, then you are safe lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:46 PM
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Statistically they don't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:27 PM
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Idk I hooked up with a lot of men. So... yes, most men can get hookups. Lmao, what kind of logic this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:20 PM
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He could definitely have gotten a much more attractive woman. I’ll never turn heads. I like being picked for reasons other than my appearance. ???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:17 PM
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Vast improvment? Entirely different world/reality lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:50 PM
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Brutal, what's up with the flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:05 PM
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Not when it comes to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:34 PM
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He is talking about genetic quality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:26 PM
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Brootal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:32 PM
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Doesn't make sense, because most men get married but most men don't hookup in a single time in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:28 PM
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80/20 used to be pre-Tinder era. It's more like 95/5 in 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:23 PM
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My current bf treated his ex much better in terms of planning dates and trips and such, and she was a hot mess who treated him badly. Sometimes this bothers me, but then I think he’s probably just burned and not willing to make as much effort anymore. Brutal pinkpill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:13 PM
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into the same things sexually Like what? Most things are soooo overlapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:12 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:55 PM
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Less so, why? But at least she wanna fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:53 PM
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Yep, it's killing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:51 PM
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This. Is cucked. Sometimes i feel better being an incel than a cuck guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:48 PM
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Wrong. Being hookup guy is superior. I say this as nothing guy. Husband guy is insulting to me. I'm not even that. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:46 PM
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I think you are both right 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:40 PM
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we won’t want to have sex immediately because we want to get to know you better, establish a genuine connection so that when we do have sex it’s more meaningful vs casual sex This can and will happen eventually tho. Hot guys that have committed relationships but can also get hookups don't need to wait anyway in reality. This is a woman's wetting process. The sex is negotiable at that point, meaning attraction is compensatory in nature. Most guys know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:02 PM
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In reality economy gets in the way. In theory they are right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:58 PM
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Theorethically you are right. But most relationships are monogamous meaning you can only be with one guy at once. There are only a few hot guys (meaning minority), so women need to lower their physical standards if they wish to be in a committed relationship. Basic economy principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:57 PM
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Simple economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:53 PM
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some guys out there really are not in the hookup material category. Some?? 🤨😂 Most aren't. But there is certainly a category of men who have next to no hookups ever. That's most. You live in a bubble. have never had anything start without hooking up or pulling first. LItterally have never been on a first date type of thing in my life. Yeah, you don't even know how privileged you are. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:46 PM
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Most guys can't even get to casual sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:17 PM
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Stop c*ping with the social skills already hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:13 PM
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It is. You are not lean then or on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:11 PM
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Brutal forbidden pill 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:30 PM
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So SEAmaxxing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:25 PM
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Halo effect is well researched phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:14 PM
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It's not, but be my guest 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:13 PM
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This. Most will be more attractive but still not attractive (enough)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:16 PM
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Lmao very mild boosts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 07:15 PM
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Every woman that is now 35 was at some point also 22. Not every man that is short was tall at some point. Jesus... 🤦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:55 PM
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Surgeries aren't magical in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:54 PM
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Careful, you must not talk about the forbidden pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:53 PM
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And it's true, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:52 PM
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Not really, you can't just get attractive. Save the gymcope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:52 PM
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This, everybody knows redpill is just as fail as the blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:49 PM
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Try that while being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:32 PM
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Did you got the paper? If not it's here: Link to the study
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:15 PM
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It's literally the forbidden pill 🤣 And yes, to me that's common sense, so i don't see the reason for gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:12 PM
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Not red but the forbidden colour 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:10 PM
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Amen!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:09 PM
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Yep, not just cooked, deep fried. Idk, steroids, rhino or forgetting it alltogether
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:11 PM
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It doesn't fuck you over?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:01 PM
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I've tried it a few times and still got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:00 PM
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It’s unfortunate, but dating in the early stages works far better as a man if you’re a little distant instead of a little clingy. If she shows you interest and you like her back, then you should reciprocate those feelings I've been trying this most of the time, it never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:11 PM
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Do you have a girlfriend? No. Do you want one? Sure, but nothing serious. What does your libido make you DO regarding sexual relief? It made me try, approach and talk to women. After 30+ rejections in a row I figured I'm just not what women want. So i stopped trying and ofc no woman approaches me, so it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:49 PM
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Flirting is always a good start. 100% immediate rejection with this one for me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:29 PM
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Die miserable and alone then I guess A lot of guys have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:17 PM
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Except when that is your only experience... When should you get it that you just aren't wanted so it's best to stop trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:15 PM
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Huh, lucky. For me it seems to be all women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:26 PM
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Yep, never happened to me, that's why i quit trying (among other things)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:17 PM
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Women make it incredibly easy if they're interested, and you'd have to be a social fuckwit to miss the glaring signs that she's into you. Welp, guess they don't want me then. Just as i suspected
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:05 PM
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For example, just last week I was advocating and talking about my own experiences experimenting with legal (at the time) steroids, in order to boost my own chances of success with women. It worked, and If I only live to be 67 instead of 68, it will have been worth it. Dude, if there would be a guarantee i become a player after surgeries and steroids for just ten years then I die I'd invest all my life savings in it. I'm more concered that steroids would worsen my look via redness, acne, baldness…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:46 PM
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But I find myself for sure above average on a good day in a mirror. Even on some pics I take and very rarely on pics other take. But some glimpses of my side profile i found myself another species... Anyway I get rejected constantly, no attention from women therefore I conclude I'm delusional and I'm objectively below average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:42 PM
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Story of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:33 PM
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And most out of those who try and "succedd" will get cheated on, deadbedrooms...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:31 PM
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Meh, at some point I was even working to make it happen and it didn't help. I do get your point tho, and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:29 PM
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That's cruel and real af.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:28 PM
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I live like this, still no woman approached or started anything remotely close to flirting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:27 PM
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You are definitely above average dude lol. Cause I can't relate at all and i work with pretty much women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:11 PM
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And a pedo 🐻 As a hip-hop enjoyer, his "music" is dogshit too But the correct answer would be if your attractive young man, you will definetly gain attention by some women. This. I don't get any. Therefore it means I'm not wanted. Everything cheeks out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:10 PM
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DM?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:05 PM
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I tended to have experiences with women probably in the 5-7 range and even years later, girl next door type images tended to turn me on more than super blondie plastic hotness. I actually struggled to think of the super hot ones as sexual. Fuck dude... This makes a ton of sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:01 PM
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Men, because they now will not be able to find a woman who comes close to what they are used to seeing. Wtf dude? Everyday i see 100+ more attractive women just passing by than i do in porn. But I do watch homemade/amateur content not professional porn. Also, porn kills the drive to overcome the hurdles that keep them from actually having sex with a woman. Actually, viewing porn makes me more horny and desperate lol. I know because i stopped watching porn for months and if anything I've lost lib…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:55 PM
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Finally, i felt I'm the only one that likes super simple amateurs just fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:52 PM
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Finally, i felt I'm the only one that likes super simple amateurs just fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:52 PM
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What do you mean "fuck yourself over?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:51 PM
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It's not fiction, idk what the hell are you watching
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:50 PM
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Massive dissagre. As soon as i had an opportunity to fuck a real life woman (she was fat and kinda bellow avergae looking, unkempt) on the reg i didn't really watch porn. Even now, I'd rather fwb with fat AND ugly woman than watch a 10/10 on the screen on one hand and dick in my other. Like seriously???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:48 PM
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What if you watch random kinksters that shoot it on their cellphone? Do people really watch pornstars as in professional porn (makeup artists, whole ass crew?) It feels so fake, yet some randoms fucking gets me off like crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:44 PM
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Finally a sane take. I'd rather have fwb with fat AND ugly woman than watch hot skinny bitches on my phone in one hand and dick in my second.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:30 PM
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Yeah, your last paragraph doesn't match my experiences. Women don't give a fuck about effort, they care about results. Yes, I have abs and put a fuckton of effort into my grooming for a decade with zero result.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:26 PM
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No, but i do understand why a lot of people think it is. It's very common. Both of my exes wanted it more than me lol. It's overrated af, only good if you wanna raw dog it and cum inside her ass. Otherwise pussy is just better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:19 PM
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For sure, can't relate to you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:07 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:05 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:04 PM
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Well, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:04 PM
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The best feeling is when a woman cums because you are responsible for her leg shakes, dafuq??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:03 PM
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Who said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:00 PM
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People watch professional porn? I watch amateur content, it feels real
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:55 AM
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now with porn being so rampant, there are a growing number of guys who used to have to settle for women they weren't attracted to who can now find a more satisfying sex life from porn than they would have had with a woman they were not attracted to... Speak for yourself. I'd rather have fwb with fat AND ugly woman than jerk it. Not a serious relationship tho... Well fat AND ugly women are only available if i commit to them so hand it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:27 AM
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Hahahaha i feel that, i do watch somewhat in shape people. Can't really watch below average people fuck unless it's some fantasy and feeling extra horny lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:22 AM
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What is PE? The fact you get fucked a d getting away with standing your ground so to speak, suggesst you benefit from halo effect. Most men can never get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:55 AM
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Fucking real... I ask myself what porn are people watching. I don't even need to go to the gym, at least half of young women are comparable to women getting fucked in a porn. I watch non-staged amatuers tho, professional porn looks so fake and uncanny, it just doesn't do that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:51 AM
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Meanwhile, I was just recently hanging out with an English celebrity who I met at a bar during some scene he was filming, got hammered, watched him take the girl I was hitting on, Bruuuuutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:48 AM
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5 years of therapy in one comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:29 PM
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Yep, this speaks volumes!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:27 PM
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Exactly. Which is brutal af 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:18 PM
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Why it doesn't seem like a goal of mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:55 PM
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Huh? You said you did it in clubs and through friends. Never mentioned apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm speaking for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:04 PM
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It certainly doesn't help knowing you aren't most men 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:48 PM
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So... are you saying I need to use steroids?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:45 PM
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Yeah, i told you so in my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:44 PM
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I've been told by many I have really nice form tho.. And I always feel the targeted muscles, watched many videos on most common mistakes etc. I've even increased protein for 40+g per day for the past year to see if I haven't had it enough. No increase to be seen. I've been gaining about 2lbs per month. It seems to be mostly fat, performance goes up veeery slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:35 PM
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Yes, agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:02 PM
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In my country, I am average height. That explains a lot. For women everything is subjective Somewhat it is on a micro level, hence types. But successful guys are always displaying genetical quality Why choose you when she could have everyone else. And you need to adopt that mindset if you want to have success. Oh, I have exactly this mindset lol. I am average height here, but everyone in America is overweight, so average height, average looks, way better physique, and above average salary = more…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:57 PM
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In what way did you pay then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:26 PM
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You must be pretty above average looking then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:25 PM
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Been going for almost a decade, didn't help
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:24 PM
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People are getting more lived experiences...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:23 PM
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If you are short and bald and ugly, no body can save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:22 PM
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btw. if you compare the young men and women cohorts with a 3 year age gap prefernece, so 18-29 women with 21-32 yo men, then the trendlines for singleness overlap nearly perfectly.) What kinda math is that? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:36 PM
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You can still be ugly with clear skin, good fitting clothes and being jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:33 PM
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The commenter probably meant 'what if he is the guy that can't build much muscle with gym due to his genetics?' I've been hitting the gym hard, consistently for almost a decade and yes I've built some muscles but below average amount. If I'm lean nobody can tell I lift in clothes. And when naked I don't look jacked, just fit/athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:32 PM
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Yep, that's been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:23 PM
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Putting in effort won't make you perfect, but you're going to have more options than you did before As a decade old journey on improving my looks I went from 0 options, to... 0 options. I've gone bald during the time so yeah... That still might not be a lot (as you mentioned), but we all have to play the hand we're dealt. Not really.. I've your been dealt a hand that makes it pretty much impossible to win - should you really play? Losing over and over and over again feels bad for your psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:23 PM
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Is it worth it in your opinion to go from a 3 to a 5.5? I've never been fat and unkempt and started as a 3. I've only been able to go to a 4.5 at best. Probably I'm lower since I'm bald, short and my face is probably below average even when lean (veins on abs level lean)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:18 PM
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I've been improving my looks for a decade now, didn't find any improvement in the dating realm. I've sent a pic of my face to a girl that DMed me on some local sub and we were talking... Then she said if I ever heard of the term 'looksmaxxing' lol - I've been improving my looks for 9 years at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:05 PM
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After all the effort i've done I'm still the bottom 10% of my friend group lol. Genetics are that harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:14 PM
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Because being in shape correlates strongly with a solid personal sense of style and good hygiene. If someone is putting in effort in the gym, they're often more likely to put some effort into their appearance as well. That's me. It still didn't improve my dating endeavours at all because you can still be ugly with lean face. You need to have proportional bones in your skull to be goodlooking lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:11 PM
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I guess my brain is still in denial about being below average lol. Hey man, that's totally normal, I'm like that too. Testosterone is one helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:05 PM
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Same bro same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:04 PM
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I see women leaving clubs with all kinds of men, all the time. I don't see that at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:03 PM
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Most guys will never had that experience. I rejected a girl once (half life ago lol) and it wasn't like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:02 PM
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I was never above 24BMI so my face looked somewhat puffy before. When I'm lean ~10% bf, veins on abs and stuff my face gets just slightly more defined than at 15+%bf since my face is recessed. It's still kinda chubby (compared to some guys that just have that shredded face). I'm still below average looking in the face. I'm around your height which is 3+" below average in my country and can't relate at all to you. Never get any attention. It means you have good enough face to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:53 PM
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Tried what? I'm confused rn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:42 PM
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Absolutely brutal truth spilled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:29 PM
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Except the second rule is a reiteration of the first. My dating life didn't improve at all after improving my looks for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:28 PM
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It's not crazy talk. This was my experience after improving my looks. No change in the dating realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:26 PM
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Getting abs doesn't work if you are short, bald and ugly in the face. That was my experience at least
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:25 PM
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My ugly ducklings out there know what I mean. When you make a massive shift, grow into your looks, etc. and the world starts treating you differently, you see that all this shit is fake and superficial. I wish I glowed up... Nothing changed for me after a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:23 PM
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Is your face bellow average tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:20 PM
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Shape matters but not as much as face and height
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:19 PM
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You still need to have an attractive face
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:18 PM
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It really depends on your face... I'm bellow average height, bald and ugly... Getting abs and veins didn't help me one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:16 PM
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You are assuming that women care more about body than about face lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:11 PM
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I got to a point where i had veins on my abs even and my face still looked kinda puffy (better than at higher body fat but still). Still ugly face, the bones underneath where never that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:10 PM
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Maybe I just lucked out coz I have bad face 💁🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:08 PM
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Yep, exactly my experience after 9 years of gym. No improvement in dating. They don't care about your abs if the face doesn't match the body so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:07 PM
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Epic L 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:06 PM
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I look and feel better to the point where it's noticeable at family gatherings, but I still haven't had a date. Same bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:58 PM
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Otherwise he will probably have to try his hand at below average single moms and even for them he would need to do relationships. Brutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:56 PM
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Personally I have never found joy from finally getting what I desired only after trying much harder than others This too. But even then it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:54 PM
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This is the reality for most guys that self improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:25 PM
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Last sentence is just brutal... So much effort to just not be treated like shit at work, in public...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:25 PM
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I only use them for sex. Atleast you can. Most men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:17 PM
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So, working out at the gym? Obvious steroid use. You don't get physiques eclipses that of other guys with just natural bodybuilding. And you fail to see genetics that make your frame wider, bigger, proportional etc.. even muscle building is heavily genetic. Most guys can lift 2 decades + and will never look more than fit trough clothes. Jacked requires steroids, for 99+% of guys. Or you can be higher body fat but your face looks bloated..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:58 AM
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What if no woman of any attractiveness thinks you are attractive? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:49 AM
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first of all if ur in ur 20s u should be getting alot of girls through friends Why do people think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:39 AM
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The correct message imo is “grooming and fashion help, however they amplify your base and if your base is low, it will be an uphill battle. It might take years to get traction, if you ever do.” I never did and I'm a decade into it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:38 AM
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But most guys will not be limited to 5% of women. Most guys are working with a lot more, even if they don't have the starting options of a super tall, good looking guy. It's not easy but most have enough to work with. Guess I'm not the most guys then haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:37 AM
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Cologne good clothes and good grooming.. altogether make a positive difference They make a positive difference, it's just usually negligable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:58 AM
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The second paragraph hit home... As a decade old self-improver I can say you hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:56 AM
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Semantics, but still... I have friends with subpar looks who are married, who didn’t have much trouble dating It wasn’t as easy for them as it was me, but they did just fine mostly So which is it? If we are going for men that are married this is a really bad metric for how someone struggles in dating. You can have luck, get with your first gf in high school/college, get married. Most married guys that I know are like that. You can have some other luck, like myself - i got a gf by luck, she cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:18 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:05 PM
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Social skills are heavily overrated ime. Almost all guys who struggle, struggle because of their subpar genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:53 AM
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Ok, but then almost anything can be a genetic fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:40 PM
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Pretty decent, why you asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:25 PM
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Based. It's rare to see a woman speaking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:06 PM
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Sure, but that's for rich people which i am not lol. Why those two sports??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:03 PM
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We don't have that in my country lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:47 PM
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Truth is that they gym won't make you attractive if you're ugly to begin with. Yep, learned the hard way. After 9 years of wasted time all i ended up with was body dysmorphia 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:34 PM
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Never seen that shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:31 PM
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It takes 5-20 seconds to assess looks. Lol, it's milliseconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:30 PM
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Hahahha, next joke please
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:29 PM
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It depends on your face, everytime. I'm short too, extremely fit but ugly and bald. Doesn't mean jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:27 PM
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Being fit doesn't do shit if you don't have somewhat above average face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:25 PM
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But going to the gym doesn't give you Chad face. Most Chads that I know are broke af, most never put a foot into a gym, they're just not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:24 PM
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Just be a decent person, work out SERIOUSLY and eat right for a year, develop, practice, and have good people skills, and suddenly life won’t be so damn hard for some of you. Lmao, I've been doing it for 9 years and still nothing. Body is severly overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:22 PM
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It's insane you are the only one with a brian on this thread/topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:21 PM
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Average and below average looking men abuse and cheat every single fucking day. They can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:20 PM
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Careful, truth is dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:04 PM
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r/ThatHappened
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:01 PM
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I would say it is also easier to improve your physical attractiveness For any significant change to be made, it had to mean you were severely nerfed/neglected before + have really good bones underneath that fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:56 PM
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Yeah, doesn't work like that, you still have to be attractive. Trust me, I'd know, besides no woman ever bought coke from me, they get it offered by men who bought it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:47 PM
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For me it's either friendzone (acting friendly, nonsexual, nonflirty, passive) or rejected asap. I just don't think I'm attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:45 PM
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To those of us who've experienced attraction from women Yeah, obviously a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:43 PM
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Yeah, I've tried your route and all it got me was rejections... Not saying that doing the opposite is any better, i just get friendzoned. Basically, polite/passive -> friendzoned, flirty/initiative -> rejected. I'm fucking tired man, it's obvious I'm not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:41 PM
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Number two, if he really could land that many women by changing profile pictures, he wasn't having a problem feeling desired at any point in his life. Finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:24 PM
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That’s because women prefer men who have social skills because it shows genetic fitness. Dude, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:46 PM
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But if you look in any city, women are slightly skinnier than men, men are not putting the effort they can to keep their bodies aesthetic Come to EU and you'll never say this again. Most still struggle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:44 PM
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So what you are saying is that if a guy grooms himself and hits the gym seriously for a few years, he'll have plenty of women pinning after him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:20 PM
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The idea that men are repulsed by women approaching first is not based in reality at all Exactly, I find it extremely hot, extremely ego validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:15 PM
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Women choose who they want to be with or have sexual relations with. Yep, and it's never majority of guys lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:12 PM
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If a guy has a good physique, short sleeve shirts and nice shorts work great for men (just not old man shorts). It's still nowhere near at the same level as a crop top or miniskrit lol. Some women really love calves, forearms, and hands...and hands look better without sleeves. Those bodyparts are notoriously difficult to build since they are highly genetic. And before anyone says i'm a fat slob, I've been working out for 9 years and have visible abs. In my case it helped nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:29 AM
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I have sebborheic dermatitis and i cannot have hair on my scalp
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:51 PM
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That's my point, balding is genetic, fatness is not. One is within your control, other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:35 PM
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Whats the issue they don’t want each other? Lack of aesthetics result in no attraction, sometimes repulsivness. How can you say her standards are too high and hers aren’t when they are mutually rejecting the other for the same reason Real
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:16 PM
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People don't get this, yet it's a well researched phenomenon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:12 PM
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The reason you don't want her is the same reason she doesn't want you. Ugly people aren't attracted to other ugly people, it's not even settling. It's forcing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:57 PM
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But if you get umprompted compliments you are attractive. If not you most certainly arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:53 PM
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Guys have either posted their photos in the sub or sent them to me, and they're totally fuckable. Well in reality they certainly aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:50 PM
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Exactly, why is the "forbiden" pill forbiden? Because it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:39 PM
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The vast majority have attractive features they could emphasize by grooming and style or niches they can fit into. Hahaha, when I get old, I wanna have that delulu as you 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:32 PM
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Then why say he was ugly if that's not really the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
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Holy fuck, good one! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
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I have even see case of good looking guy who didn't find any date. Then he wasn't really goodlooking or didn't really try
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:24 PM
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I'm callin' a cap
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:18 PM
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It's such a strong want, men are risking their lives for it, yes. Stupid? Idk, just a strong biological software 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:05 PM
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Yes, it's genetics. Probably depends on age, balding is not fair game, not on the same level as fatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:44 PM
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Because they aren't that smart 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:33 PM
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Imagine actually believing that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:28 PM
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You would be amazed how many women "believe" that 😂 or having a hobby gets you laid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:27 PM
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Yes. But living there is still cheaper than having done a lot of surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:39 AM
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I mean... You're not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:32 AM
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More young men are overweight and out of shape COMPARED to young women Not where I'm from. Not from USA. Approx 10% of guys in ages bellow 30 (my competition) are noticebly fat. Gyms have waaaay more guys than women tho. Sure being slim is 90+% diet. Women are far more likely to invest in skin care and grooming resulting mid women being attractive unlike mid men Skincare doesn't make much difference lol, second biggest thing is makeup and other tools that are socially acceptable for women only. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:27 PM
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but voluntary vs involuntary is just a difference in mindset Yes, it's called coping mechanism. the body doesnt actually know the difference. Sure, brains do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:18 PM
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They got none or it's stupid af.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:35 PM
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Fair point. It will work for some guys, I'd bet it won't work for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:34 PM
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Primarily i go for fitting clothes, dress on the ocassion, if it is a party i wear somewhat flamboyant shirts. My style is modern/hip-hop. I match the collours (not the same collour necessarily) and style of clothes so they go hand in hand. Hairstyle is clean shaven since i'm balding for almost a decade (NW2) and have seborheic dermatitis. Skincare 2x per day, exfoliation, moisturizer and beard balm for beard which i go to barber every 3 weeks to fade it out. Perfume, deodorant, shower (the basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:29 PM
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Literally the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:05 PM
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But confident mid men do get women. The vast majority of them are in relationships. That's not my observation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:33 PM
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What if you've spend a decade there? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:32 PM
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And only fools fall for it. Remebered the scene of my friend who is used car salesman and he had a standoffish confident show when a guy was selling the car, he started off "yeah this is shit, this is shit, yada yada..." "I'm taking it for 5bucks less" and the selller looks at him in silence, weirdly, like wtf is with this guy and then me and just says "look, i have a buyer from netherlands that will pay just as much, i don't have time, you buy it or it goes to netherlands tommorow, i don't care…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:28 PM
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Clothing/style, hairstyle/grooming/skincare, gym/diet. Did i miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:14 PM
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Lol, there was an attempt. It confirms those tools aren't enough to increase your attractivness enough. I'm still ugly, just less ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:58 PM
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I've been improving my looks and body for a decade, so you are wrong. I'm just telling you most guys if they are ugly, will remain ugly, since these tools don't make much difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:53 PM
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I have regularly gone 2-4 years with 0 sex or romance and it wasn't great but it wasn't terrible But it was voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:53 PM
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We aren't raised, we are biologically hardwired. After survival instincts, reproduction instinct is second biggest driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:44 PM
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This is textbook gaslighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:36 PM
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so the advice should be more centered around becoming more physically attractive and knowing your limitations and improving them. No, the advice should be "it never began for most of you, deal with it!" But that would mean i should abandon my decade long (and decades to come) project.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:35 PM
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You talk like there's a gym for your face, or some skincare products make you grow jawline and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:03 PM
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Idk... My claim is 95+% of guys don't get to have a type
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:34 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:24 PM
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Yep, happened to me. Started to attract women, a decade later all i have to show is body dysmorphia and wasted time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:23 PM
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This guys speaks the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:21 PM
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Fucking amen man!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:19 PM
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If you don’t think taking care of your beard, showering, and working out don’t improve your looks I don’t know what to tell you. Going from 3 to a 4 with that makes no difference 🤦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:18 PM
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Those guys are cringe and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:14 PM
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Where the fuck you all live? 💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:12 PM
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Most men don't need dating advice though. Really. They should be told they stand no chance lmao. often admit to not being social What if that's the least of my problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:10 PM
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Even if you give them advice on how to live a fulfilling life without women "How to get rich?" "Well, what if you focused on living better as a poor man?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:08 PM
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Because it's bullshit. Best advice is inactioanble: "pick better parents"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:07 PM
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I've been doing much more than that for a decade. It hasn't helped me one bit. Attraction is heavily genetical
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:04 PM
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Not the only, the biggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:03 PM
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Or men who like "blondes" or "brunettes". Every guy i know who says he only dates blondes or smth is usually some fat, stupid ugly dude who is chronically single or has an equally (or more) fat and ugly gf that is 10/10 times not blonde 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:50 PM
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Facial harmony as an indicator of genetic quality of those guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:48 PM
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So I’m not sure why advising guys to improve their appearance is a bigger ask than telling them “just leave it all behind and move to a different country, bro.” Hell, even getting some minor cosmetic surgery/dental work could be cheaper and less stressful. Idk, I'm planning a trip for 2 weeks to Saigon/Manilla this year or next year and just tindering, nightlifing out. It looks it'll cost me less than 2k alltogether. Luxurious stuff included. A simple nose job? Not under 5k. And it's not just my…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:46 PM
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If a guy is already basically fit, you’re right that building more muscle probably won’t matter to women. But if he’s fat or scrawny, it will certainly help. If being fat or scrawny is bad and getting fit will certainly help, than that makes your first statement useless, sonce fit guy is already good enough. But it's not like that. It MAY help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:42 PM
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We know, it's this or a prostitute (way too direct, no fantasy of being wanted...) or no sex 4 life. Plus, is a guy who won’t go to the gym really going to do all that? Have you? If not, why? I've been self improving (my looks, clothes etc) and gymming for a decade with no betterment. Ofc I'm bald, short and ugly, so makes sense why no improvment. Passportbroeing/geomaxing is my onpy hope. Well other than surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:30 PM
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I mean it reads like a profound, credible hypothesis/theory that i haven't heard before. It makes a lot of sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:26 PM
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This or be sexless for life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:17 PM
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I think it's the opposite. After a decade of improving my looks i still haven't found a single woman interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:16 PM
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Most guys would benefit from this advice the most, unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:13 PM
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But what if i did all that looks advice for a decade and still not finding a single woman attracted to me? Can't i acknowledge the bl*ck pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:13 PM
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But what if i did all that looks advice for a decade and still not finding a single woman attracted to me? Can't i acknowledge the bl*ck pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:12 PM
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It doesn't work, because you can't change your genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:11 PM
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Saved your comment. One of the best comments I've read on this insight in YEARS!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:51 PM
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No the less attractive guy can't really compete
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:33 AM
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Must be nice living in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:04 PM
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Because most well off men that I know are permasingle (cause they are average or bellow looking). Ok, mostly bellow, if you are average and well off you aren't permasingle, struggling at best. Most guys that I know that are good with women are extremely hot and none is making much more than minimum wage, a few are perma jobless lol. So it's not about the money (women work too) and it's about physicall attractivness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:32 PM
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Can't comment on Hinge. It doesn't exist where I'm from. But what you've said seems self inflicted and deserved 🤣 I don't think I've ever slept with a girl below my own level. Obviously it's subjective, but I can't think of one who I wouldn't consider genuinely attractive. Based on your stats you are GigaChad, not even Chad lol. And yet, you are one, others aren't as selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:29 PM
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There's a reason why "typical SEC couple" is a meme. I just googled it and for the life of me don't know what SEC stands for. I'm European. I knew some couples from college who absolutely fit the meme and they generally started as a hookup. All the hookups I've seen the guy was NEVER worse looking than the woman, I kid you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:25 PM
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sexual liberation broke that mindset by proving women enjoy sex just as much as men do. They do, some probably even more than men, but most don't as equally as men. Otherwise we would be fucking like gays do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:43 AM
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That's funny, constantly sorounded by drunk and high women, somehow they still don't get blind 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:20 AM
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Lots of men have unrealistic expectations. When you see men online complaining that they can't get sex/relationships, that's typically because they don't have realistic expectations. If they lowered their standards to a level of woman they can get, they wouldn't be sexless/alone. Yeah, don't speak for average man, you seem to have no grasp of their reality. This couldn't be further from the truth. Most guys if they wanna have sex can barely get fat unkempt girl that is several leagues behind. Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:19 AM
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Wrong. I know how to play it, but got dealt shit cards. I'd say you can get great cards and not know how to play and still doing better than those that know how to play but got shit cards. Infact those who have been dealt shit cards, are more incentivised to learn the rules of the game since they keep losing, so they need every leverage they can. At one point you realise it's better to quit playing since your cards are so shit that statistically you'll never win the game. What was the commenter …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:16 AM
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I mean, viable men (aka attractive) are always favored since they are minority. Most guys are not even competitive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:57 AM
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No it wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:55 AM
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No shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:54 AM
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You proved that guy's point 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:44 AM
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Do you believe you as a 5/10 guy can get 5/10 girl for hookups and 5/10 girl for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:42 AM
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didn't find them particularly attractive but was offered sex and I took it. Damn dude, this never happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:41 AM
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🤣🤣🤣 it's so funny how women are uninformed about reality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:40 AM
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No shit Sherlock
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:39 AM
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Coz it's more fullfilling for a guy - she makes herself very easy, she adores you, is more kinky... On the other hand she will not adore/worship you, she'll lay there, she'll put up some more defenses and usually still expect dates etc. I hope i cleared that up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:25 AM
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Bruuutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:48 AM
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On dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:28 PM
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Or are you upset that you aren’t the one pumping and dumping them in their 20’s? This
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:11 AM
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Too many ugly guys to choose from lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:08 AM
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No, having golddiggers is pretty bad for your mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:36 AM
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Oh, fair
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:35 AM
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Just move bro is advice that should be given to most men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:34 AM
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I agree with last statment, can't with first point coz i don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:32 AM
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Many unattractive men have gotten into relationships Yeah like me. Oh, don't get me wrong, i wanted to cheat. It's just i couldn't. That's my point. I don't pretend I'm an angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:13 PM
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but when a guy with a lot of options picks a fat woman over his conventionally attractive options who are also readily available, that's a strong indicator that he prefers big women. Yep, and that very very very rarely happens. But yeah, watch people who can, what they do. Not people who claim what would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:49 PM
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Lmao no it wouldn't be. Women find the vast majority of guys unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:47 PM
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What if you are bald?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:46 PM
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Extremely small % that prefer over fit/skinny women. Usually they just say that to increase those small options they have... Scat porn also exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:06 PM
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That doesn't make sense from supply&demand standpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:04 PM
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Ofc it is, they struggled af if they even got a gf lmao, you are crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:02 PM
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I thought we are talking about equaly attractive guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:02 PM
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Yeah, touch grass, unironically lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:48 PM
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Not anywhere close. If this was really true, we wouldn't have this inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:46 PM
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Waaaaay easier i assume. Like she wants anal, screams, no condom, and the hot one wants expensive dinner date, let's you wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:43 PM
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Interesting, my brother's roommate was a literal Chad (very attractive face, shredded, tall, broad shoulders...) yet he once brought up home a fattie 🤣 When "confronted" by my bro, he said "she was super into me, she was easy, they respect you more"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:42 PM
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Interesting, my brother's roommate was a literal Chad (very attractive face, shredded, tall, broad shoulders...) yet he once brought up home a fattie 🤣 When "confronted" by my bro, he said "she was super into me, she was easy, they respect you more"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:42 PM
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Yeah, i never saw that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:38 PM
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Again, they aren't as easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:32 PM
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Attractive women aren't as easy 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:30 PM
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Just hit the genetic lottery bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:12 PM
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They can't. They don't get the chance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:11 PM
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Brutal 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:04 PM
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Welcome to the experience of 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:51 PM
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It's better to be able to be pain free, able to walk, see, open your mouth and you know have a few extra tens of thousands ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:50 PM
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Same except i was never fat to begin with. I'm also bald so fml
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:43 PM
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If you aren't fat, you're half way there So what's the other half?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:36 PM
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Yeah but what do you mean by game/rizz?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:39 PM
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Damn, are you from USA then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:39 PM
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Just move to a third world country bro! I've been improving my looks for a decade. I'm just slightly less ugly (well arguably, I'm older now) started to bald and still the same height
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:39 AM
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I'm from EU, basically all women agreed to the date first then when the time was nearing they almost always came with excuses 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:17 AM
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No woman is attracted to me. In the same boat as other 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:07 AM
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Incels? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:02 AM
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Facecard, the most important one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:54 AM
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Do we say "incels" interchangebly with "guys who wanna get laid but can"? No, we say incel cause it's short lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:54 AM
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That there's no checklist like red pillers have always claimed? That attraction is complex and variable? If attraction is complex, then what is quantum mechanics then? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:44 AM
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And they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:40 AM
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They have the same exact other options as the men do. Uglier partners. Who is gonna tell her? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:38 AM
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It's not about being in shape lol, it's about the face. If this was true you must be pretty old lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:47 AM
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Because we are being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:48 AM
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That means 95% of men would die as virgins 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:48 AM
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It is too harsh if it leaves out 95% of men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:47 AM
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men are lucky that they're mostly judged on musculature (that also affects face). We aren't. Body is massively overrated, women care waaaay more about the face. And mysculature doesn't affect face, wtf??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:45 AM
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There's nothing more shallow than desiring hot girls while not putting in effort to look good yourself Putting in effort doesn't mean you will be attractive. Don't ask me how i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:44 AM
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Do you believe such man is attractive to some other woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:28 AM
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Wooow, that's rare af
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:27 AM
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And did you manage to become attractive? My bet is on no, since these things are genetical because of cutthroat competititon. Everybody is improving their looks like life depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:21 AM
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so now go work on being part of that group of guys they are attracted to. You can't work your way to there lol, this is genetical and/or circumstancial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:14 AM
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Dude dropped the truth bomb 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:06 AM
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Ugly guys are getting girls that much we know From where?? Do we live on the same planet?? You can be the most attractive guy and girls will still not sleep with you without work. Yes, they will. You just download tinder. If you are really attractive a ton of women are dtf, write you first, inviting you over etc... There has been countless tinder experiments like this to say otherwise. I think word got around about the fact that I was "safe" (In bed, I can't think of any other reason) and I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:32 AM
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Lol ok, that is location dependant isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:26 PM
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Loads and loads of money, like millionares
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:23 PM
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Ugly ones can't cheat because they aren't in relationship in the first place 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:20 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:19 PM
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You still need facecard so...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:11 PM
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How are you bluepilled? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:06 PM
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Let me tell you how it is: women are attracted to small minority of men and those men are spoiled by choices (we got studies and dating app stats) so they literally try to see how much bullshit women tolerate. I mean why would they care about some Becky, when there are 20+ more equvivalents ready to jump on his dick right away? (such guys DO exist, I've been roommates with them and a few other examples. Other guys just don't register like, they are invisible 😂 So the OP is correct in his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:05 PM
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And it's a lie (well maybe they are that stupid to actually believe in it)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:58 PM
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Because women think that if you shower, get a haircut and do skincare routine and hitting the gym for a few months makes you a model 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:57 PM
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Yeah, and the second is truth. I pity the guys not getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:56 PM
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Yeah, i've never seen that among the youth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:53 PM
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I don't spend time on that forum (used to visit it a few times yeeears ago) and I'm tehnicaly an incel (wish to have a single woman attracted to me)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:43 PM
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Lmao 🤣 delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:38 PM
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I did talk to few, but ofc some stranger knows better than me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:37 PM
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Wdym with game?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:50 PM
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Yeah, so why gaslighting incels it's their personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:48 PM
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That she is shallow? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:47 PM
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What I would suggest is also to add to ur fyp looksmaxing videos and women who admire men's bodies videos to balance your fyp out with a wide range of pov. 🤣🤣🤣 Like that is any better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:29 PM
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Women on average are better looking then men. They take better care of themselves because there's societal pressure to to so. No matter how much you jerk off to Chad, there's much less expectation for a guy to be hot. Men don't even have the tools to make ourselves more attractive (make up is an obvious one)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:18 PM
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Now if you look in a woman's eyes that increases sexual tension. You believe this, if the guy is ugly? 😂 As a man who accidentally got laid a lot I can attest. Lmao noone gets laid a lot by accident, you are either lying or you are pretty damn attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:07 PM
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It's very rare and specific, usually virgins and for marriage. Got any link for otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:00 PM
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It is, but what woman was paid 1billion for a nightstand? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:56 PM
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Nope, same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:55 PM
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Can't decide if i should upvote you or downvote you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:50 PM
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Reality. Wall is just a poor cope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:48 PM
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Sure, but genetic quality remains in those different phenotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:43 PM
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Things like high sociosexual skills or status factor in more than looks when it comes to women's unstated preferences. Hahahaha, you are in for a rough awakening 😂 So she'll date guys who don't meet any of the criteria on her list, just because they have game or good dick or social popularity. Lmao @ game. Buddy, stop using Internet Explorer, we are in 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:42 PM
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Exactly, snowbunnies
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/25 12:10 AM
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And snowbunnies
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/25 12:09 AM
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women seem to have no issue being interested in other women, so that kinda seems to cancel the theory out perhaps They can't get pregnant
/r/BlackPillScience31/07/25 03:35 AM
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one would have thought nature could have done a better job at making things more even lookswise. One thinks this is because overreproduction concerns?
/r/BlackPillScience30/07/25 04:52 PM
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Just get a line bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:32 PM
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Lmao we just do be horny xD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:47 AM
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My father was married (i mean he still is) and he didn't get flirted everin his 40ies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:43 AM
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I think there was a tinder experiment with model and in bio he said he lacks confidences, is shy and afraid of girls... He still got a fuckton of girls messanging him first that it's okay and bla bla bla
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:08 PM
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Type it on an app?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:06 PM
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Dissagree. He can make stranger women come to their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:52 PM
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If you act according to the truth, then you know giving up is a lot of times the only winning move
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:49 PM
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An attractive man without confidence won't get it either. Except he will
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:53 AM
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Or not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:50 AM
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Lol, nature did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:49 AM
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Lmao, this is a blackpill argument 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:48 AM
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because so many average guys refuse to make any effort to be desirable to a woman What do you mean? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:01 AM
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I get hit on more now than I ever did when I was in my 20s. Yeah sure, 40yo get it on, yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:48 AM
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Ugly guy can hold as many frames as he want.. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:27 AM
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Similarly to how there are workouts for women that target glutes and thighs instead of making them look mannish, there can be different makeup for men that makes them masculine instead of womanly. Hollywood already does this. You know what both things have in common? Subtleness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:06 AM
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They are attracted to the narcissistic bravado No they aren't. Your analytical skills are dogshit; Ugly guy with nacissistic bravado will get rejected for being 'arrogant'. Hot guy with with the same bravado will get success as he is 'confident'. Ugly guy being reserved will get rejected as he is invisible. Hot guy being reserved is gonna have success cause he is "mysterious". Therefore we can conclude being hot is what matters. If you were correct ugly guys with narcissistic bravado would fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:04 AM
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So looks absolutely do matter. If you look at the mirror and see a ugly person there you can change it. Go get a haircut, hit the gym, remove your acnes, grow your beard to a attractive level (if you have one), if your nose is bad get a surgery etc. Its better to take action than to complain all day. I've been doing these things for a decade. I'm still not attractive. It doesn't do much, if your face is bad, it's bad. Surgeries also aren't magical. Read: limited
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:56 AM
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And also pure confidence will not gonna cut it if you are ugly. That's bla*kpill tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:53 AM
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What a fantasy bro 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:50 AM
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Perfect comment!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:40 AM
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That's not redpill that's bla*kpill
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:35 AM
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Yup agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:34 AM
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Nor for the physically unfortunate. That's bla*kpill in essence 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:21 AM
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Lol, what a case study projection. Blackpillers know this and when they say it out loud they get shunned
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:17 AM
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Yes they do, go on any mainstream sub, they gaslight you to hell and back
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:27 AM
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Lmao that's the gaslighting i was talking about 🤣 No, it's just you can't improve much, how attractive you are is mostly determined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:26 AM
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I do get told things explicitly... No room for interpretation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:18 AM
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No one said confidence alone attracts women Are you kidding me? 🤣 Most women say that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:03 PM
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You can make yourself more attractive. Haircut, clothes, fitness, skincare, all the things women do, men can do too. Bullshit. I've been improving my looks for a decade. And I'm not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:40 PM
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Majority of guys are being settled for. Men want women more than women want men. This isn't the case as much anymore which is seen in singleful genZ. 63% of young guys are single, while only 34% of gals are single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:37 PM
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Because we get gaslight af
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:32 PM
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Fuck, TIL i'm a truecel 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:39 PM
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Who wants love? Some of us want lust
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:56 AM
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And most of us can't even get to that point ... To be valuable as a dildo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:55 AM
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Most women are conditioned, trough societal judgment mostly + it's very hard to pull off winning both times - eg having an attractive guy creamping you a few times is the easiest part, but having a child from before and getting a rich kinda decent looking willing loving guy to take role as a step-dad is very difficult to pull off. I believe only 5-10% of women could make it happen. Overall, having kids with the same person you are in relationship longterm/married isby far the most convinient opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:37 PM
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Only if you consider being used for recreational sex by someone whose bored with vibrators winning? Yes? 🤨 Where's the catch?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:40 PM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:59 PM
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Average men struggle af at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:10 AM
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"work" as in sex "work". Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:03 AM
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Well, as a guy, it's insanely hard to get a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:21 AM
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What about other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:25 PM
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Some guys do majority of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:23 PM
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Im a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:22 PM
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I mean i don't even qualify so..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:18 PM
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💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:16 PM
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I mean... Guilty tbh.. i tried but i couldn't 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:09 PM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:06 PM
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I'm from EU and we still heavily struggle here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:30 PM
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Men get hundreds of matches too. Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:28 PM
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Only to the risk of having sex with men that dont want to have a meaningful, satisfying, and respectful sexual experience on online dating. And how do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:16 PM
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I think most men would welcome being sexually used by women, assuming she looks even relatively good. You kidding me lol? Agreed. Never gonna happen tho 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:11 PM
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Most of the time, men just dont try to make themselves appealing and they proceed to fuck up when they do get a match. I've tried for a decade, then realized that i just can't become that guy that women want. How exactly do they fuck it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:03 PM
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I don't know why men are still using online dating if it sucks so much. I don't. But IRL I do just the same as there, actually even worse and that speaks volume 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:50 PM
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Delusional take.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:37 PM
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An average woman sending me the first message? Gotta be a prank. Nah, for real, never happened to me, it would shoot my ego trough the roof for months if not years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:36 PM
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You are demonstrating a lack of understanding and caring that women are full human beings and not sex dolls whose own sexual desires are secondary to men's. Nah, they don't even have sexual desires. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:27 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:18 PM
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Where??? Am an incel just because i'm honest i don't want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:16 PM
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We know that sex is the goal for men. It's not the goal for women, and they are usually clear about it. Case closed. Opposing goals in heterodating. People who have waken up/saw the reality have quit dating. There is nothing to disscuss. It's just a cruel reproductive prank. This simulation sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:10 PM
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Exactly, every guy wants to fuck like gays, just women. But they know they can't so they adjust to the female fantasy. Watch what people who can, do. Guys who can have loads of casual sex, have loads of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:07 PM
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Men so often tell me that they are desperate, have no options and blah blah, wired to sleep with every woman, and that's just basically not true. Their behavior proves it wrong and also this post too, i just hope to stumble across this lie less. How? I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:54 PM
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men can't get sex because women only care about money, and there are no high paying jobs for men. That's false. Women are even pickier on looks than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:39 PM
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Where? Well how is it our fault we aren't in the top 10% of attractivness?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:36 PM
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No shit, that's what we are trying to tell people, that standards are de facto unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:20 PM
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Out of the guys I see that are around my age, I feel some amount of attraction to maybe 10%. Well you are not alone... Surprised pikachu face when most girls go on the same 10% guys and then realize they can't get them to commit since those guys don't need as they have a line of women... Like, it may look like a revenge fantasy, but believe me, i do feel bad for y'all. It's just a logical consequence of this. It's nature. That's what I'm trying to tell people, yet i get called it must be my pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:17 PM
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Yup, spot on. Unless you can get consistent casual sex as a guy (extremely rare) then dating is just hell. Better to focus on your hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:34 PM
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Do you have any idea how much work every man puts into creating the lie that he's popular with women and has a lot of options? All men pretending like we are the shit when it comes to women really is the biggest gender-wide conspiracy. But it's kind of required to be seen as attractive by women. Thats some brutal shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:23 PM
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Literally the only thing stopping men from cheating is their inability to do so Just today, one woman told me the opposite 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:15 PM
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Most people are sick of online dating and would prefer to date someone organically or through friends. Yeah.. that's true for guys, not for women. They're always shocked when one of their male friends makes a move on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:12 PM
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I have never, ever, ever in my life gotten to date the woman that I felt like I connected with the most. This is the general theme in dating for men. It's far, far easier to find a girl that seems like she'd be good for a relationship than it is to find a girl that wants to fuck us. Shiiit, so real and raw. Appriciate the honesty. 🫡 Plus, I've never been in a situation where I've slept with a girl and I couldn't make it into a relationship if I wanted to, so just getting to sex is 99% of the bat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:07 PM
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💀💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:51 PM
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And maybe a booty call in the future when they're thinking about ya. Thats not how it goes for guys 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:47 PM
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Noone, not even ugly men, want to date below average or unattractive women. I mean, it's true other way around too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:09 PM
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Hold your frame goddamnit!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:40 AM
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The average man is fine, according to the average man. False.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:02 AM
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Just have women interested in you, bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:01 AM
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become above average This notion assumes that vast majority of guys do no put in effort at all (false) AND that one can massively improve their situation by sole effort (false too)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:01 AM
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Just more than other things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 08:59 AM
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Logic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:40 PM
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Yeah, I know
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:34 PM
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and they are probably great at getting sex, they have very good social skills. Lmao. Depends on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:14 PM
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sex without connection, which is common and easy to get. Yeah for women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:59 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:25 PM
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Nothing works for me 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:25 PM
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having lots of sex partners is a personality issue, not an attractiveness issue. Imagine actually believing this 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:16 PM
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Attractive bad boys*
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:04 PM
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As an ugly guy, substance use doesn't help you at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:03 PM
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Unironically makes this sub completely pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:55 PM
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Rule 1. Rule 2. Unironically makes this sub entirely pointless 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:51 PM
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And what do they respond to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:39 PM
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Lol. I mean, happy for you if that's been your experience. It hasn't been mine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:55 AM
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Bingo. It's the only way and people are so happy to fight this notion, I just don't get it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:07 AM
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absolute data that the best way to actually have the most sex is to be sex positive and avoid coercion I'm sex positive, i don't care about n-counts, i like "slutty" woman that are horny and sex positive too, yet i get nothing lmao. Your take is absolutely naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:06 AM
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Women aren't lying about this. Most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:56 AM
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I bet most dudes don't chose the quiet and nice sweet girl for hooking up Most dudes can't choose lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:56 AM
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Women also have lower standards for hookups since it's just about sex with compatibility being less of a factor. They aren't viable for stable relationships because eventually the mask falls and their true colors show - which is undesirable and makes for a bad partner. Lower standards for behavour/personality etc... Looks standards are waaaay higher. Remember most guys cannot get ONS and can only get sex trough relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:53 AM
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Idk, I've been doing, making and selling drugs my whole life and it never got to sex lmao. What I've saw is hot guys hooking up constantly wheter drugged or not it didn't make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:48 AM
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More money means being able to groom better 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:44 AM
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Completely anecdotal but: The time of my life I was fed up with EVERYTHING and started treating women like crap, like, literally objects, was my most "successful" time with women EVER. Completely anecdotal but i used to be like that and used to be opposite and anything in between. I struggled always.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:36 AM
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Obviously, as the vast majority of men manage to socialize and date just fine. Except, they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:32 AM
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Mainly the thing that you don't - in any situation - show signs of desperation, chasing and validation-seeking yourself. There are hundreds of millions of guys like that and they still don't get laid. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:22 AM
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Nice fantasy bro 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:17 AM
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Oh okay then, we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:55 AM
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You can live your life all you want but you never add anything of value to her life. Unless you are attractive you add nothing. By basics economics i meant the basic principle of "supply & demand"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:21 AM
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That's still the forbidden pill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:17 AM
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Oh okay. Found plenty of people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:16 AM
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Dissagree. Rich/powerful men don't have that much dating success believe it or not. Networked and in good physical shape means absolutely nothing by its own. I'd know coz I'm both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:12 AM
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Then sorry, you don't want it enough, by defenition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:09 AM
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You are telling on yourself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:08 AM
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Exactly, basically dumpster diving
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:54 PM
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Dumpster diving
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:52 PM
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Exactly, i wasn't BP on the internet lol i got b***kpilled by women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:44 PM
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(worthwhile) women smell losers. But they can't smell a womanbeater 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:30 PM
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Most women aren't replacable coz most men can't get a youmger one lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:29 PM
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It's called luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:28 PM
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I have had care and raw desire since and it's completely different from what you described. That's when they want you and don't want to be without you Yeah, well, most men will never get to experience that... I'm the same age as you and started dating the same age as you. I definetly didn't rack up numbers like you did, barely got a gf, then a brief relationship after her and then a complete draught for 3 years now...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:27 PM
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It's simple. People with this mindset don't date. But most people self-delude it's why the forbiden pill is.. well, forbiden 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:02 PM
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The only way to avoid that is to be someone worth sticking around for. That by definition means not everybody could do that. They no longer are special. If everyone is a billionare, nobody is rich, everyone is equally poor. Eggs would be a few 10k for example. Do people not understand the 0 sum game? In order to be winners, there must be losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:48 PM
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I've been in 2 relationships a few years ago. It absolutely works that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:41 PM
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It's about age and sociatal pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:38 PM
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It's not about bullying it's about conviniance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:36 PM
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If you feel like your partners constantly have other options, why do you think you couldn’t have any yourself? Because the demand isn't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:32 PM
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our worst competition isn't the other men. It's her, the woman herself. The reason there's so little attention from women as large group is because lot of women are very content by themselves and already consider you extra to their life to begin with Exactly why if you aren't attractive or ridicilously rich/famous you don't stand a chance. You ADD nothing of value to her life. Basic economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:29 PM
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Good men are hard to find, everyone knows that Good AND attractive men are hard to find*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:26 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:23 PM
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5’4”, 170lbs Dear lord...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:22 PM
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It can be both, just not the same people at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:20 PM
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You just don't understand this is 0 sum game
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:11 PM
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So does Pope or Macron lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:10 PM
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Bad analogy, when a woman wants to be with you that means you are no longer single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:57 PM
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Exactly, 💯. If you are happier alone, then it would only be logical to reject every cute girl that wants to be in a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:52 PM
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It’s learning to be happy without a consistent supply of sex. That by defenition means you barely want sex if at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:49 PM
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The problem for a lot of young men is they can only get a consistent supply of sex and validation from the opposite sex within a long-term relationship Are you saying granpas are hooking up like crazy? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:48 PM
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Dating value*. You can be valuable in many areas even socially and not been valuable in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:45 PM
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Same. And it's not like some people are saying "You'll found love when you least expect it" - women don't approach. If you approach as a man, then are you really happy single?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:42 PM
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Nice flair dawg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:40 PM
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Most guys have less than 5. Over their lifetime. We aren't even speaking in select life periods..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:36 PM
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If you got one girl into a relationship with you then given some time there is nothing stopping you from finding another one How many years we speaking? I got a gf twice but it's been 3 years since i was on a single date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:27 PM
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Women def aren't replacable for most men. They are dumpable, yes, but most guys will be single for a loooong time if they do that. That's why they don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:24 PM
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It's not easy to replace a great partner, not for men OR women. Correct. It's easy to replace a shitty partner with another shitty partner - for men AND women. Only true for women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:20 PM
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You must be old(er). Being low-anxiety, I am very calm and confident These things don't matter to vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:16 PM
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Is your flair what i think it is? Bypassing the rules? 😅 When you think about it, science is on our side, but it's forbidden. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:13 PM
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According to women broke and handsome is more attractive then ugly and rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:00 PM
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Absolutely, if you don't want to be interchangeable with the men to your left and right, you have to have something about you that distinguishes you from the men to your left and right. Exactly, but what? It also has to be in line with what women want/desire AND is rare among men. I think people seriously understimate genetics, competitivness and do not understand simple economics of supply & demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:58 PM
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Bulk up, get smart, get some money, and *then* you'll have something more to offer women. I know a guy that competes in bodybuilding (bulked up), is a PhD in chemistry (smart) and works at university (above avg pay here). He's a virgin because he's short, bald and has mid face at best. essentially red pill advice It is laughable. Redpillers unironically suffer from solipsism. They think genetic ceiling doesn't exist, that women are blind for face and just care about muscles and everybody but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:53 PM
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Act like you have options, because you should have options. If you don't, work on yourself. Imagine it would be so easy that having options is just working on yourself 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:40 PM
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Finally... This is, unless you are at very least top 10% of guys a reason why you should not date. You won't get hookups, your only chances are relationships where you hold 0 power. Sounds like a very very bad deal to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:27 PM
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Yes, those guys are in extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:22 PM
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Is Redpill on this sub meant as (the forbidden) pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:20 PM
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Men who brag about their "sexual exploits" around women usually give women the ick - you know that too, right? Nope, my experience has been, that such guy got hook up proposals lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:23 PM
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Very often, most people find it wild not being able to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:53 PM
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A lot of these “virgin” men could probably get some sort of sexual encounter (not necessarily penis in vagina, though Where, how, when???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:48 PM
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Every pot finds a lid. Just world fallacy. how do you know that you will never be desired that way? Common sense, because if it didn't happen in first 30years of your life, how can possibly happen after your best years?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:34 PM
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I've yet to meet a woman attracted to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:32 PM
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Yep, i got b*ackedpilled by female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:31 PM
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But the truth is forbiden here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:32 AM
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Yeah those fields are one of my fav "hobbies". I still wholeheartedly believe there must be some sort of physical attraction and that is at least 90% genetically determined. Look up halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:56 PM
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I like myself, i used to think i was pretty hot tbh. It made 0 changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:24 PM
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I know, right? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:23 PM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:22 PM
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Real. Still, after a decade of proving my looks all remained the same. Which further proves the point that selfimprovment is pointless (at least in this regard)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:21 PM
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Dude doesn't know he is attractive 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:20 PM
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Do all of the above and hit the gym hard. You knock the difficulty setting of life down just a notch. And socializing becomes super easy. A switch really. I've been looksmaxxing for a decade, lifting for 9 years. Don't know what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:19 PM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:17 PM
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How did that happen, may I ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:12 PM
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Harsh but based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:11 PM
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unless you suggest uggos should know their place and just assume no woman wants them in the first place Well, yeah - it's a simple fact of biology
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:10 PM
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Finally. My experience as well. If your gf/date isn't attractive, that "preselection" doesn't happen. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:41 PM
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Look at the stats...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:32 PM
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So are men, that's how biology and nature works 🤦 Only a tiny minority of men are attractive to women. That's how biology works. In most species most males never reproduce. Male inceldom is by far default state. However, I agree with you. That means vast majority of males should quit dating as they can never achieve what you've said. No amount of confidence, gym, looksmaxxing can beat luck/genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:44 AM
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Women ARE special in dating. Women in general are attractive to men in general. The reverse isn't true Yep, biology. That's why vast majority of guys should quit dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:40 AM
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a men who is generous and wants to show you a good time via putting effort into courting you is revealing something about himself and his interest in you which are very attractive Yeah, that never worked for me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:35 AM
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You are completely forgotting primal esence. Physical looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:15 PM
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Your time is better spent learning, growing, and becoming a stronger and more well-rounded man. You think this will result in genuine attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:21 PM
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They do not want you. Figuring out why will be a better use of time then the gym Too fucking based and grim
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:19 PM
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Having attractive male friends really opens your eyes. Yeah, but I'm an incel coz i spent too much online 😆😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:19 PM
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That feeling when no woman was ever into you 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:18 PM
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Based in reality take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:17 PM
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No, you do. These are my real life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:59 AM
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Wrong 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:35 AM
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You must be in minority. Coz he never got a date. Sure, average looking guy means you are invisible, unremarkable and women don't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:12 AM
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Most incels are bellow average or average at best looking guys. ER was not good-looking. Dude was barely average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:08 PM
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Simps, take notes! The pill is speaking itself!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:32 PM
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🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:29 PM
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Absolutely false. It's 🧬
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:29 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:28 PM
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Women have far higher societial pressure on how they should look, and they invest far much money into their looks than men. From nails to hair to body hair removal to eyebrows to clothes to their makeup and skincare products. It’s all incredibly expensive. Because men don't have those options. If men would wear make up, long hair they would colour, doing nails and removing their leg hair they'd look ridicolous 😂 All men have to do is shave their beard, go to the gym, wear a nice cologne, a cool …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:44 PM
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Remember women are not the visual ones Then most hot guys would be incels 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:26 PM
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This doesn't make sense 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:23 PM
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All this matters only to idiots who want to have kids coz they understand very little about the world they live in. But it means absolutely nothing to an intelligent antinatalist Baseeed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:19 PM
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I was lean and muscular and I was just being myself. Same but never happened to me 🤷🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:20 PM
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🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:25 PM
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I don't have luck irl. I look better in photos. Still ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:03 PM
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More bc in 2 weeks than me in 29 years 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:00 PM
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Same. This happens extremely extremely rare tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:03 PM
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What if you've been working on yourself for the past decade and still no women is interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:59 PM
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Bad argument. That would mean being lean automatically makes you hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:58 PM
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Attractivness is 90+% genetical
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:57 PM
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Men as a whole need to focus on the women that are into them No woman is into me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:56 PM
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since women are taking care of themselves much more, I've had this topic way too many times... They just have make up. That's all. women on average are more attractive Because of makeup + biological reasons of bottleneck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:27 AM
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That feeling when you never had IOIs 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:56 PM
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Ofc it does
/r/BlackPillScience11/05/25 05:45 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Women are gonna be attraactive, men not that much. Was thinking of editing but got lazy instead.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 09:25 PM
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Yeah, duh
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 08:50 PM
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Body is several levels bellow face.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 10:39 AM
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The guy doesn't get to show his body if his face or status isn't right there with being strong Dating apps? Anyway, it won't help, they care about face.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 10:38 AM
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Im shorter than average, I dont have a strong jaw or very good face and im bald. So is it even worth it trying to get in good shape at this point I wonder? Given my experiences (also shorter than average, small frame, small skull and weak chin, balding) i can say that after 9 years of lifting my dating life is still nonexistant. At some point im just like maybe i should just give up and get fat and enjoy whatever shitty things I can in this life. Yeah, it's better. I only lift because i have bod…
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 10:36 AM
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I've been going to the gym for 9 years. My dating life is still nonexistant. It doesn't do anything if your face is not attractive. Otherwise gymcels wouldn't be a thing.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 10:30 AM
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Because height is overrated, it's valid but it's secondary and more of a cutoff thing in extremes (well tbf just a low end extreme). Being tall and average looking will be just a slight increase over someone average looking and average height. Being short and average looking is worse than being average height and average looking. Being somewhat short but attractive dude will (ofc not always) beat average looking tall guy. Unless you are really short 5'2 or less, face rules in majority of times. …
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 09:57 AM
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Omg poor suckers gettin gaslight all the time.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 09:50 AM
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Say you have an unattractive face, you can at the very least put effort into being physically in good shape. I'm pretty fit (been liftin' 9 years now) and did all the softmaxxing (which tbf for man is veryyy limited). I'm a gymcel, fit with unattractive face. Still got rejected 30+ times in a row and non was cold-approach or via dating apps. Women care about face wayyy more than body.
/r/BlackPillScience10/05/25 09:18 AM
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Yeah, im asking you
/r/BlackPillScience08/05/25 10:55 AM
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Exactly. But if she is, are you saying being available means she loses attraction?
/r/BlackPillScience08/05/25 08:37 AM
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Relative to who?
/r/BlackPillScience08/05/25 08:37 AM
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Overall? Idk haven't looked about that. But 2019 there were 51% of single guys aged 18-29 and 2022 or 2023? there was 63%. That's quite an increase
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:34 AM
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Eh idk, i can relate to 95+% of stuff from US. I am in western country, especially dating, the culture is roughly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:06 PM
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It's the opposite lol
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/25 01:11 PM
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After looksmaxxing? How can you possibly improve dating life?
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/25 12:56 PM
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I did that (not tolerate bullshit) and still wating response years after lol
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/25 07:47 AM
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Bunk. When i ignore a girl nothing happens, she's just ignoring me.
/r/BlackPillScience07/05/25 07:45 AM
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I knew plenty of virgins, and most other guy friends try to date but they aren' successful. I didn't pick my friends, they're painfully average. Those are local friends. Also I'm not from USA. Half or slightly lower % of my guy friemds are in relationship (mid to late twenties)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:31 AM
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That largely aligns with my observations between my own personal life and my friends I've known over the years. That's just anecdotal though Interesting, because my anecdotal experience is like this: most guys are either having sex in relationships that are sparse in between (multiple years between relationships) or go have sex every odd year or so. Some guys fuck at least monthly, but those are rare and attractive af.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:18 PM
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I'm not on any blackpill forum unless you mean this sub. and then when people point out that the vast majority of those guys AREN'T EVEN HIDEOUS, you say: "why won't women date them then???" Actions speak louder than words type of thing. Huh, I don't know, maybe because you refuse to take any accountability, have no interest in trying to improve your lives and your situation, and simply want to surrender because that is EASIER than admitting that you don't want to try. Hold up. That's not an inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:53 AM
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Very rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:14 PM
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MODS??? MODS??? Emm, what? Average isn't unappealing, and it certainly isn't hideous or warrants such blackpill responses from incel peers. Also, as I said in other comments from this thread from a month ago, plenty of these guys were actually above average in looks. Then why girls don't go on date with them? I think you guys need to go outside and look at couples I see a fuckton of people everyday. There just isn't that many ugly young couples to be seen. Sure, they exist, I never said it's imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:07 PM
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I mean, there's no such thing as good/bad at flirting. It is who flirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:01 PM
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And even the average guy can take his appearance up to a huge degree if he knew what was biologically attractive Seems like you know it, willing to share to struggling guys like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:10 PM
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I have those things and cannot find a gf. In my country being fit especially under 30 is pretty much average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:06 PM
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We can and need to come up with better mainstream dating advice. If the mainstream advice would be "Looks is all that matters" (regardless if it is entirely true or not) what difference would it make? If physicall attraction is almost entirely genetic, how does this advice help?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:03 PM
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They say lift! That's not looks. It's about face and height. Or gymcels wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:05 PM
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or because women are just more selective How are they more selective if they "just want a decent guy that treats them like people"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:59 AM
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when in reality, most women just want a decent guy who can take care of himself and treats them like a human being. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:57 AM
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Especially when flirting and on dates. Dude, most guys don't get dates in the first place 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:12 AM
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Most men can do a LOT to be more attractive Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:09 AM
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A recent study says like 50% of dudes have never asked a woman out at all. Right, they just need to ask 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:52 AM
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The incels that hang out on these incel forums and tell each other they're all too ugly and should give up are often not even on dating apps. Because they were and it turns out that being average barely gets you a match every few weeks. That doesn't respond. Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:31 AM
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Well average is unappealing, that's litterally our point 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:28 AM
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It's been 28 days and she hasn't responded...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:19 AM
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This!!!! People just gaslight you that anyone can go from a 2/10 to 8/10 just by hitting the gym and getting a haircut lmao. Truth is bleaker; 90% of your attractivness is genetical at least and people have a really really hard time to accept genetical determinisim. I've been looksmaxxing for a decade and it didn't change shit - because i was never fat to begin with or unkempt. Also started balding in my looksmaxx journey so i'm actually worse of. I fixed my skin but that's not enough at all lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:33 AM
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Many people suck at making photos and thus look worse in them than irl. I look better in pics than irl and still don't make it 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:15 AM
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If you put in the work, you'll have plenty of options to choose who you want to be with. 🤡 Just world fallacy. Genes do not exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:04 AM
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Single isn't sexless. I've been single for around half of my adult life, but I've never gone more than a few weeks at a time without sex Do you think you are in majority? Vast majority of men can't get sex without being in relationship, that's my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:55 AM
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The newer is more bleak
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:43 AM
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Must guys have better chances of a serious relationship than casual sex/fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:42 AM
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I mean to say is, if you aren't like really shy and quiet people won't know you are a virgin, but ofc unless you are very smooth with girls or attractive, people won't ever think you as a player. They'll think you are a normie aka counting bodycount on fingers of one hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:56 AM
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I have quite a lot of male friends and i'm no casanova lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:55 PM
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There's no happiness without being able to get laid if a man is in the sexually active age and has no hormonal problems. Thank you for this, just had an epiphany 🙏🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:40 PM
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Not easy for a man to be happy without sex. Thank god I'm pretty much asexual, this is so true. Even now, I don't think I'm as happy as i could be if i was fucking (basing it on experience). But being horny and without sex is litteral misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:33 PM
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He's usually alot more chill, doesn't act as thirsty, usually know what women prefer to talk about, know when and where women want to be flirting with, alot more socially savvy, and alot more interesting to talk to. That was me, when i was a virgin! Makes sense, because people were schocked i was one at the time. Now they think i am a virgin because i very rarely talk about my exes and i don't have a gf and told them that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:21 PM
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No they can't. People were shocked i was a virgin. I'm 90+% sure that now that i'm not, people do think i'm a virgin simply coz i don't talk about exes (that much) and don't have a gf rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:17 PM
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socialize with people who don’t seem like assholes—you’ll meet ladies, ladies who’ll want to meet you. That rarely works after college tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:15 PM
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They know if you are very experienced. That's it. If you are semi-experienced it could go both ways. People were shocked that i was a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:11 PM
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People didn't think i was a virgin because of the way i acted. And people think I'm a virgin now 😂 i'm no casanova, body count = 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:08 PM
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While you are correct, his comment is also pretty good tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:57 PM
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“you don’t really offer much at 18, grind, work on your money and fitness and be the person you’d want to date.” I've been doing that the last decade and it doesn't help
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:56 PM
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Based in reality just like the forbidden pill 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:47 PM
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You kids would be better off partying, getting drunk and throwing up in the parking lot like your parents did at your age Who said we didn't do that? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:45 PM
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Idk where you are from, but vast majority of people cannot afford to pay rent on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:50 PM
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Only to realize that the job you're in is a sausage fest. Lol, i have pretty much exclusively female only coworkers. They're all taken or morbidly obese 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:54 AM
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When you're in college and most likely living with others or in dorms, people know when you're fucking. So much better to start dating once you're working, earning money and living on your own if you can do it. Lol, most people need rommates even after they work or they fuckthemselves financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:52 AM
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Sure. What i mean to say is - first parahraph is correct for majority of guys, second is only possible for top 5% of guys, at least somewhat consistently. Majority of guys can't get more than a hook-up or two in their whole lives. Needless to say the woman will be fat AND ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:04 PM
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Guys just want consistent quality sex unfortunately relationships are the only way to do that for most especially these days when you can hook up with hundreds of women in 5 min So which one is it? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:16 PM
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C i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:37 PM
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Yeah, ugly guys very very very rarely get anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:35 PM
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Try 70 thousand?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:39 PM
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Always has been
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:09 PM
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What if you made a lot of changes and still nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:29 PM
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I agreed with you before, but this comment is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:00 PM
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😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:39 PM
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sweaty palmed, twitchy introverts, high functioning autists and chronically depressed, poorly groomed neck beards Stop with the boogy-men. Much more men, fully social, groomed, fit are getting overlooked because they have average/mediocre face or are a tad short.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:07 PM
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Same 🤜🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:02 PM
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The funny thing is, this solution would work simply by men putting their time and energy into becoming more well-rounded, respectful and emotionally intelligent people. Most of them would have way better luck when dating if they actually became better people. Again with the personality boogey-man. Most guys struggle because of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:10 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:25 PM
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Is the entirety of this sub just people who nobody wants? Umm yeah? If women want you, you will be bussy fucking them, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:10 PM
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Kinda lucky myself being aromantic that I've no interest in dating or being in a relationship. Found my inner peace. But are you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:55 AM
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"no touching!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:52 AM
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Same, good luck with that tho 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:51 AM
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Yeah, that's why it's easier to get casual sex vs relationship 🤦🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:51 AM
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People want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:46 AM
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Once they stop participating in society(already happening) Any examples? Wdym by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:41 AM
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I did 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:16 PM
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How did you meet him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:45 PM
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I've only been talking to one "older" girl in my life. She rejected me afterwards coz i was too balssy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:37 PM
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Real. A few months ago a bi male was begging me to let him suck my dick, and cover his face. He was willing to give me 50€ for it lol. I thought he was gay but he corrected me he is bi. So i asked him why not asking women and he said he is not gonna fuck with them, too much pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:08 PM
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Then you suck at dating This is the same if you'd say to a broke person "you suck at earning money". No shit. You're height isn't stopping you from getting women I agree, it's my looks. I'm not extremely short. nor is some idiotic advice of stuffing your pants I mean I laughed at his advice lol. You and only you are getting you subpar results. Nah, majority of men struggle. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:17 PM
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They aren't excuses. These are my lived in experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:42 PM
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No, dissagree. I do not respect players, since you cannot pick your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:09 PM
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You mean gay male, right? 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:07 PM
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Damn, missed the sarcasm at first 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:04 PM
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I wish i was gay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:06 PM
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They say the same for bad trips on mushrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:05 PM
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You have to ask a bro that's been in the trenches and has been successful. I did, and his advice was i should make my dick look bigger, by stuffing my underwear (he doesn't do that). He also said i should not be desperate and talk to them like they're a complete NPC. I also do that. His advice never worked. When i ignored women, they just didn't give a fuck i ignored them lol. Needless to say, he's quite attractive and very tall (6'3). He is the only close friend that gets interest from women. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:03 PM
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I tried both blue and red pill ways of living. They both didn't work 😂. There is just one pill left... 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:49 AM
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I got a bi man begging me to let him suck my dick dry and cum on his face. I'm straight so i said no. I assumed he was gay, but he said he's bi. So i asked him how come he don't date women. He said "ughhh women are too much pain in the ass". I believe 95+% of bi men are almost exclusively gay. And also 95+% of bi women are almost exclusively dating men. Can't make this shit up 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:44 AM
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killing their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:06 AM
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Memes write themselves 🤣. My ex claimed she was bi. When i asked her how does that play out, she said she swipes girls on tinder along men. The only girl she could match was a girl that was looking for a woman for a threesome with her bf 🤣. So in reality she only dated men lol. Same stuff goes with bi men. In reality they're just gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:20 AM
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Yeah.... No, they still prefer older dudes most of the times
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:08 AM
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Some guy - you are absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:55 AM
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Whenever i hear a guy is bi, it ussually means he's gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:19 AM
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whereas too much money only seems to get you killed if you own an insurance company 😂 All hail St. Luigi
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:12 AM
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Lmao, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:20 PM
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Dissagree. As a drug dealer i get no pussy. And when talking to women, as i pull back, ignore, they ignore me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:17 PM
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I was desperate and dated a fatty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:14 PM
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No, going to church isn't expected of a 25yo man 😂 I'm not from USA, we don't have retirement investment like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:13 PM
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Yes, I do. The secret is, you have to be attractive (enough). My goal is to have some sex, be it via gf or a random hookup, don't care tbh. Would prefer the latter tbh, but i can only dream. Be attractive to a woman who then wants to be your girlfriend after getting to know you? Being high status in your social group is definitely enough for that. I'm high status in my group lol. Doesn't help jack shit if you aren't attractive enough. Overall, you will be able to find a girlfriend how you are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:53 PM
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Agree, but most of the things you said aren't gonna attract women by itself. They're just bonuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:07 PM
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They kinda are you are saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:05 PM
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Yes, that means competition is fierce af.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:42 PM
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Firstly, i'm not from fatmerica. Second of all, I'm not competing with 40-90yo that are majority of adults. Where I'm from, less than 10% of young single dudes are overweight and obese. Most who are dating are gyming hard. And I'm not religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:23 PM
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In orther to attract you need at least certain favorabke genetics. You didn't talked about it, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:01 AM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:20 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 this is probably most delluded comment I've read in a whole year
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:20 PM
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Those improvements help drastically No they don't. It's very rare there is someone extremely facially challenged. You don't need to be extremely facially challenged to be unattractive. Mild facially challenged people aren't really rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:46 AM
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Assuming you aren't cold approaching every single woman you meet. Which there's your issue there assuming every interaction with a woman has to be a romantic interaction. Most women will let you know they are interested. It's not a cat and mouse game. If you are doing the cat and mouse thing it's a no. Women will carry a conversation. It will be giving schedules for availability. It's responding quickly to texts. It's not a mystery. If she is flakey. Indecisive. Closed off. Says explicitly I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:42 AM
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Ok, so give some examples of what it means being a functional adult
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:29 AM
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Well if he's unattractive. He's likely not grooming, staying healthy, keeping up with appointments (orthodontics/dentist). Working on his style. Which are basic easy to do tasks that make you more attractive. That's kind of an initial you're out. If you put effort and care into yourself. This means dressing up. Finding styles that work for you. Eating healthy and working out. Good hygiene.Like you aren't meeting that bar. Biggest bullshit ever. I do my skincare routine 2x/day, my skin is flawles…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:26 AM
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What does that have to do with genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:23 AM
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so many men seek to become a bad boy and treat women like shit because it works. No, it only works if you are hot. Lmao, try being ugly and a bad boy and tell me how it goes 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:15 AM
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Absolutely wrong haahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:06 AM
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No and no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:06 AM
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Most men who have put the work in, know that their dating struggles turned a new leaf when they lost a lot of weight and improved their looks Most men who have put the work in, when they lost a lot of weight and improved their looks, realized they still aren't enough 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:39 PM
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To stop lying and admit that looks absolutely matters the most and find only a minority of guys attractive. Just stop with the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:51 PM
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To stop lying and admit that looks absolutely matters the most and find only a minority of guys attractive. Just stop with the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:49 PM
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Is it a delusion to pride yourself on your accomplishments? To consider yourself good at something? Is it a delusion to derive joy from your own mechinations? I think not. Confidence is completely dependant on setting/circumstances. Maybe not the best expression, but hear me out; I'm confident in some areas, where i'm good/expert at such as my job, hobbies, interests. I'm not confident with women, because you can't be if you don't get success from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:43 PM
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if a fat ugly woman came up to you and started saying things like “oh you’re so sexy” you would deffo feel creeped out If she's at least a 3/10 i'd ask her if she wanna fuck 🤷🏻 Ngl, would caught me off guard anyway lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:16 PM
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RP guys are telling "lift lift lift and hold frame" aka confidence. I saw plenty of posts on TRP of "my friend is fat, but he gets all the bitches coz hes confident and mah amused mastery". At least that was before covid. That's not the golden rule. BP actually states it's all about looks, which is the golden rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:01 PM
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Idk, 80% of guys (at least in my age cohort in my country) are looksmaxxing. Overweight people are in a small minority, everybody grooms and rarely anybody is unkempt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:06 AM
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You are delusional. You can put insane amount of effort and still be ugly, coz your bones are weird
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:35 PM
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think it is particularly hilarious how liberal women will tolerate conservative behavior from HVM they are lusting over Reminds me of my friend that dated a fitness model. She was a hell bent atheist, childfree and she was willing to convert to christianty 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:21 AM
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Bullshit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:16 AM
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Send them to me 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:24 AM
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Most do ime
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:08 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:37 AM
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Apperently no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:12 AM
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No, i wanna spread the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:04 PM
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Fuckin delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:18 PM
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Being high IQ is horrible. Nobody understands you, you can't relate to others and you see tham as stupid even if they have 115 iq lol. I'm not high IQ that much tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:46 PM
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I'm just trying to say you cannot really become much more attractive. You should be completely neglected and still be around average to have any impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:39 PM
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I have a swimmers body and i can't even get a date because my face is ugly. Drowning in puss my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:08 PM
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No, he may get a gf but he will be on par with barely average guy. Source: i have a fat friend that got a gf, he's super dominant and funny, but he can't get multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:53 AM
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Too bad becoming more attractive is very limited by your genetics 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:51 AM
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Just have a conversation, she either wants you or doesn’t She doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:36 AM
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Complete bullshit - i have friends, social skills but i'm not attractive. My former room-mate did have some friends but omg he was such an autist and still smashed 5 girls at age 18. I'm almost 30 now and had 2 women. Been single/sexless for almost 3 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:59 AM
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You need to use your gut feeling. You can feel it when they desire you. The thing is my gut feeling is telling me that they are into me 🤣😭 Also, be attractive. This is a no-brainer. I was ugly when I was a teenager, but I took care of my health and became attractive. Lol, being healthy doesn't make you attractive. I'm 4" bellow national height average, balding and have a hugeee crooked nose and reccessed chin which i'm trying to cover up with a beard (gonna take me a few more months for sure), m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:45 AM
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We'll i've talked to quite a few girls over the years and some talked for most of the days... But they weren't interested in meeting 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:20 AM
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Believe me, they don't. I mean like you as a friend, but not like you as a bf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:01 AM
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Look around, see who is interested in you. Talk to them and keep talking to the one you are interested in. Yeah... What was i suppossed to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:59 AM
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So much of the “incel” problem could be resolved if men spent less time playing video games and more time socialising and flirting with women. Such bullshit. I know a fuckton of dudes (besides me) that socialize with women and don't play video games and are still incel. This excuse "ah you are playing videogames, not social" needs to fuckin die already
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:54 AM
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What? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:06 AM
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Merely type into Google "epigenetics" it's at this point an extremely well researched phenomenon and you'll find countless information on it. An example would be a male growing up in a very hostile environment with tons of violence (assuming diet is equal to a version of himself in a different environment) would have significantly higher androgenic expression. No concrete examples from you. You get it through excercise or anabolics. For example, in my case heavy compound lifts like bench and OHP…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:30 AM
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Because in my country this is average (talking about competition)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:33 PM
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🤣🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:36 PM
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it was once I started listening to successful men that I started getting results. What was the advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:35 PM
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mean tbh i feel like as a guy you just have to be decent looking which is really just above average muscles and lean body fat You're american, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:00 PM
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You have got to be fucking kidding me 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:49 PM
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Based theory
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:24 PM
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I'm sure there exist women that you would rather stay single than be with. I'd bet you're talking to one in fact Rip 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:15 PM
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Then i'm straight up uggly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:57 AM
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Guys just need to stop being losers In order to have winners you have to have losers. It's a zero sum game, kinda.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:23 PM
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If you want to build an interesting instagram and keep working on pictures for dating apps it may work eventually. No it won't. If you aren't hot you aren't hot lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:02 PM
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🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:46 PM
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and as long as you play it cool, you can clean up pretty well. As long as you are hot*. I'm in female dominating field at job and no women is interested
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:05 PM
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You know girls like men with charisma right? Only if they hot, so it's meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:52 PM
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Biggest problem is lack of bones
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:21 PM
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You are gaslighting yourself 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:29 PM
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Dissagree in two points. First as a below average male, i still had SOME success on apps because you can anglefraud and expose your strong points. In real life they see you non optimesed - from side view and you are ugly. For that reason my in real life experience is 0% success rate. Second, you can build yourself up, earn 250k for example, groom, skincare fashion yada yada and get extremly fit physique and you still look bellow average coz your facial bones are just lacking in proportions and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:14 PM
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Dissagree in two points. First as a below average male, i still had SOME success on apps because you can anglefraud and expose your strong points. In real life they see you non optimesed - from side view and you are ugly. For that reason my in real life experience is 0% success rate. Second, you can build yourself up, earn 250k for example, groom, skincare fashion yada yada and get extremly fit physique and you still look bellow average coz your facial bones are just lacking in proportions and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:14 PM
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Men just don't want to stop chasing women Sure, but how would you solve this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:27 PM
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Ok, then i push boundaries and so does everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:18 PM
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mainly date men who push boundaries 😂 What a take lmao. Try push boundaries then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:06 PM
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Oh, you are from USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:12 PM
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Poor wording i guess, what i meant is how are you being well off and bellow 30, but most guys not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:56 AM
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Hahahahahaha tnx bro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:31 PM
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It's cheap to go to museums, concerts, plays, dance concerts or otherwise show you appreciate art or culture. This doesn't require working 100 hour weeks to afford, "bro." Newsflash: Not every woman expects multiple trips to foreign countries a year. Ok, I agree, but how is this a lifestyle? Lifestyle that requires wealth? If you can't even bench 135 for a single rep, you're not pushing yourself enough 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bro, i always train to failure, i just can't. It's super weird af and frustrating. Work w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:29 PM
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I meant the shape of the skull not the content
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:28 PM
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Yeah some women like it? So why did you comment he should loose weight? You must be really sad bud since you have replied the same thing to like everything I replied to.. sorry you're an incel pal must suck for you That's an attack when you don't have logical arguments anymore... But thx, i didn't pick my parents. And if you don't like yourself it shows For the past years i've had a transformation... And i truely liked what i saw in the mirror. The thing is, i was delusional, women provided feed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:11 PM
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I didn't say wealth. I said lifestyle/wealth which means building the wealth to lead the lifestyle you want to live for yourself, which is what will attract women who want the same lifestyle for themselves. Then you screen them for lifestyle/wealth traits to see what their level of commitment is to upholding that lifestyle in their own life and confirm they're not golddiggers. If you're simply amassing wealth and trying to buy the affection of women, you're going to get golddiggers because genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:04 PM
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So you are something special, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:49 PM
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They're gonna be ugly at best, if. No, at most you'll have 3 lifetime uggos "chasing" you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:47 PM
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If you’re at the other side of handsome So more ugly/bellow average? Dude, you are negating yourself 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:47 PM
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Where I tend to side with redpill is that it is EXTREMELY easy for almost anyone except the most genetically cursed (Down Syndrome, Human Werewolf Syndrome, extremely flawed face, or any kind of condition that inhibits building muscle or actual disability) to become above average in most things - looks, personality, humor, lifestyle/wealth or lifestyle/wealth potential - through a few very basic changes that can be implemented in less than a year. You are delusional.. or maybe not and i just rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:41 PM
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Just looks maxx and date casually. 🤣 Still impossible for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:28 PM
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Abs are overrated. They're a bonus. Face is the bread and butter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:13 PM
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No you wouldn't? You would just be hot to different people. Remember, beauty is in the eye of beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:12 PM
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You did mention being overweight? I'd imagine if you took your health seriously and made positive changes like that. With all those qualities you would do fine? But why? Aren't there tons of women into dad bods? He is a 10 to many of them, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:11 PM
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Dude, what are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:09 PM
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And if you are trying to appeal to young hot women What do you mean? What i find hot is different than what other guys find hot. So this is pointless? What happened to "beauty is in the eye of beholder"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:43 PM
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And if you are trying to appeal to young hot women What do you mean? What i find hot is different than what other guys find hot. So this is pointless? What happened to "beauty is in the eye of beholder"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:42 PM
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Because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. On macrolevel, this is a lie. Ofcourse microsubjectivity exists, duh. Like "i like blonde guys that are into art/music" vs. "I like dark guys that look dangerous" and every other combination. But it's never "i like 5'3 chubby guys that lost all their hair, has sparse goatee, weak jawline and huuuuge nose with bug assymetrical eyes"? How come? Your teeth, your skin, your hair your health. and dress okay. You can be appealing to someone looks wise. Bul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:38 PM
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No one believes you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:25 PM
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So how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:06 PM
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Coz they go for bad bois, yeah. You seriously believe majority of guys don't have those stats?? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:49 PM
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Pay attention to guys who get women, there’s a lot more going on than just his looks. Yeah, i have yet to see an average guy slaaay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:41 PM
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Yeah, they look like another species than me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:39 PM
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Everything is false with this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:02 PM
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I’ve had a couple glow ups with muscles and fat stages of my life. Same but no glowups
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:47 AM
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Born with the wrong skull
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:47 AM
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I live in commie state, we are all poor here. I don't even have enough money to buy a small room.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:10 PM
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I have a beard, still ugly. And i don't even have enough money to buy a small room
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:08 PM
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My face is ugly too, it won't do shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:58 PM
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Used to be super happy for 2 years straight even when i was single and still nothing... Yeah 30+ rejections crushed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:56 PM
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I don't get any attention even from uggos and fatties
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:54 PM
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Yup, bones are off. Also balding since 22. Everything else on point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:52 PM
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I agree, but I think people underestimate how much you can move through this with how you project yourself. Bs, because I've been doing this A lot of guys would be infinitely more successful if they dressed well, took care of themselves, and worked on their communication. For almost a decade with 0! Results lol. In fact, even showing passions for things and being interesting to listen to can get you far. Lol, 1000% depends on the passion. My passions are seen as weird/too nerdy to every female i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:44 PM
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Most guys have women that would chase them if they lowered their standards. Listen to yourself. Standards have nothing to do with being chased lmao. Also i have 0 uggos or fatties into me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:34 PM
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Nope, i've been selfimproving for nearly a decade and there has been 0 improvment in dating, fucking crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:24 PM
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How the hell you went from bottom 30% to top 5%? 😂 I call bullshit. Also i'm perma bottom 30%, fml. I've been looksmaxxing for near a decade too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:04 PM
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After age 30 the sexual market value of women falls below that of men the same age. You know very well that average woman at age 65 has still more SMV than 80+% of guys at prime age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:36 PM
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How hot are you really? I believe you aren't enough to get away with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:15 PM
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Agreed, the truth is in the forbidden pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:13 PM
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Nobody has debunked you, because they can't. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:59 PM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:00 AM
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I just wanna be lusted like Chad tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:59 PM
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Reality and bitterpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:54 PM
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Both men and women wanna fuck around a bit before some serious relationship. The fact is, women can and do fuck around in their 20ies, but vast majority of guys simply cannot. This is fair to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:53 PM
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I am not dating a man with a beer gut Nobody is thinking about that when thinking about dating out of someones league, since those guys are not even on the radar. It's about someone's facial features and also height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:26 PM
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You most likely can't make yourself desirable to women, since it is highly genetical. Gym, clothes and grooming don't make you taller or give you facial symettry and proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:02 PM
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women choosing to be single over partnered even though it's harder and many are ridiculed for it, there's nothing in it for them anymore, so instead of leveling up their game and becoming better men Because most things that make women desire you is being tall and have a handsome face. Gym and skincare routine, grooming and clothes doesn't improve those two aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:59 PM
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rather than suggesting that for the same betterment of society, that all men become better in order to be the type of men those women are willing to be with? Well because you are limited by your genetics. how about men take one for the team and level up to what women think is a “suitable partner”? Same answer as b4
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:39 PM
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I mean, you are right yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:56 AM
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Oh ok, well nightlife is somewhat restriced tinder also soo..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:09 AM
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No, even from outside it doesn't look like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:08 AM
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Well if they were hornier they would fuck average guys too, just like us men. Just look at the sex lives of gays and lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:07 AM
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I’m not really sure that there are men who are active in nightlife who are struggling, since its not something I do/know any men who do Seriously???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:46 PM
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Being with people who party a lot and use inhibition lowering substances is like playing on 30% difficulty This is not how it goes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:45 PM
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An example, is even in families that are pretty relaxed about gendered expectations, when you have a family gathering it’s normal for the men and boys to be watching TV, and the women and girls to be in the kitchen preparing food. Yeah, i was dumbfucked when i've heard this from the girls i was talking to. Meanwhile they were amazed i was cleaning toilets, ironing clothes for all the members... Welp that still wasn't enough to get them to agree to a date with me 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:23 PM
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Perhaps we should promote widespread libido reducers for men Or libido enhancers for women, but yeah, we need this matched more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:09 AM
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Well, we have more testosterone than women so this is the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:21 PM
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Higher sexual desire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:15 AM
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I have no problem talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:13 AM
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But why do they have too low standards and are simps?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:37 PM
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Interesting, i did the same (got in a better shape and dressed better along grooming and skincare) and still got rejected 30+ times in a row
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 09:08 PM
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The thing i quoted lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:32 PM
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What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:07 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:01 PM
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The good news is virtually every man can make himself a lot more attractive than he currently is. Getting into shape, finding his style and grooming himself are all easy goals to achieve with consistent effort And yet you assume people that get no dates put 0 effort into their looks 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:48 PM
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Lesser known talented people still get attention. My friend was in a band that was quite famous in my region. He is still 29yo virgin. It doesn't help at all, you need to break some sort of status for that to be effective (several 10 or 100k of people) listening to you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:46 PM
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But sometimes that "it", it's just a bit more muscle and less fat As someone that is fat, i dissagree. 'It' are favorable bone size and proportions of your skull (face)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:03 PM
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If i got a penny for everytime people assume i "just don't know how to talk to a woman" i'd be a millionaire by now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:28 AM
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Focus on improving your attire and grooming as well. Oh, I do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:48 AM
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Interestingly, a lot of women’s opinions changed once I started hitting the gym five times a week for a year straight. Lucky mf.. I've been doing it for 8+ years and that hasn't happened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:03 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:47 PM
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how on earth could you think you understand how it works? I'm talking about never seeing a below average man hooking up (strangers and friends)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:21 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:15 PM
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That's literally me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:45 PM
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I have, they, like myself do not get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:40 PM
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I’ve seen them And i haven't so i don't believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:36 AM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:59 AM
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Granted, I’m a tall guy who does part time modeling. So that could definitely play into it Oh, okay
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:47 AM
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You are in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:52 PM
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Word up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:44 PM
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Ok, so the study uses weird language, so i'll give you that. In the point 1. it says that attractiveness is lowered for STR, but physicality (looks) hold more weight. So i assume by attractiveness is meant also money, status, mutual beliefs and personality. Ofc those don't matter for STR and looks matter more. Overall just dropping the limit of those extra factors is dropping the overall attractiveness level even if you raise standards for looks. Sorry, English is not my first language, so the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:36 PM
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How will you cure women tho? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:03 PM
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Bahahahaha no one believes you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:00 PM
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most people would rather have a relationship over constant ONS. Guess i'm not most people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:01 PM
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Become an abusive narcissistic sociopath This does not work for ugly men lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:43 AM
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Absolutely brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:25 AM
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you should try to change it You can't change your genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:24 AM
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Money and status doesn't mean much unless you are in 1% or even 0.1%. Then it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:01 AM
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but I think it is unacceptable that they turn into misogynist as a consequence. Because nature really is hell, brutal and violent. Nature gave every man (there are exceptions ofc) a high sex drive that serves as a competition mechanism. Nature doesn't give a flying fuck about morals. It is meant we kill, rape and torture for achieving these goals. Before anyone reports me or disagrees, this is the nature, not my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:22 AM
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That is my experience on all the parties i have been on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:16 AM
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Do you know what is a zero sum game?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:10 AM
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Do you know what is a zero sum game?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:10 AM
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Do you know what is a zero sum game?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:10 AM
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You don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:09 AM
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Only if you limit yourself to western women And what are asians gonna do? Someone has to lose if someone is winning in a zero sum game
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:08 AM
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Math doesn't math up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:52 AM
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Honest to God no wise man wants to be with a woman who sees him as less than top tier. Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:51 AM
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For some, yes. For most even with effort won't get shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:13 AM
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This is too high IQ post for his sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:48 AM
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Dude, you don't know what you are reading 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:38 AM
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Oh well, this post is useless to me then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:34 AM
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They gave me non-Chad genes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:33 AM
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Ofc it is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:04 PM
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I thought this sub is about sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:04 PM
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Clearly not enough then That's my point. It's not enough if your genes suck. I'm not waiting for women to come talk to me... I got rejected by 30+ girls in the last 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:50 PM
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Dude, i've been lifting for 8+ years. You can't grow taller (i'm not that short even tho i'm at least 2" below the country's average) you can't grow wider in shoulders (delt size doesn't make much increase) and you can't restructure your skull. I've had a hot girl ask me for my skincare routine, my skin is dat good. I wear fitting and situation appropriate clothes. Growed my beard with minoxidil. I keep it nicely trimmed. Tho i'm balding since 22. What else should i even do?? Personality is a me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:49 PM
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Makes sense, but i guess everybody got their own where i'm going.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:42 PM
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Lucky you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:41 PM
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You need genetic potential to become a Chad lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:40 PM
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Ofc not. It just never ever happened (also not to most of my friends) a few non-Chad guys got lucky once in a few hundred attempts lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:39 PM
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To me, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:37 PM
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Oh, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:37 PM
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I'm already comfortable in social situations, a lot of times (not always) i'm life of a party. I'm just not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:36 PM
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As a fellow european, it is the same, this guy is just lying or is a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:54 PM
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I fixed things and i'm still not desirable. Genes are a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:52 PM
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Genes, is this a serious question??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:48 PM
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If you have weed people will often come up to you. Yeah, there was once one guy and that was it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:47 PM
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It's not. I do drugs (both figuratively and not). I have never succeded
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:10 PM
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Last night me and all my friends who would definitely be considered very beautiful hung out with a 5'7 white guy not thicker than my wrist because he had drugs and dressed like a cool opium boy. He was and fun confident. If a guy that average or ugly can get women than you can too. Where did you say he smashed??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:09 PM
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IMO 60-40ish is not terrible Lmao, that's great for meat market places. Usually it's waaay worse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:02 PM
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Just be a Chad bro 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:00 PM
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The problem is your outcome won't be that of Chad's if you aren't Chad 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:56 PM
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This. I'm fucking tired of "you are antisocial, don't know how to talk to women" bs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:55 PM
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And they never have and never will at clubs 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:53 PM
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Y'all complain y'all can't get bitches but hate everywhere the bitches be Nope, we go were the bitches be, but we can't get bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:22 PM
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It never is a fun experience, watching chads taking home girls while you are going home fappin... Yeah, wonderful, certainly can't be bad for your mental health, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:54 PM
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Lol they're even bad for non autistic men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:50 PM
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He was hot, non hot guys do not hook up. I'll believe it when i see it with my own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:48 PM
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You really don’t understand how easy it is to meet people when people are drunk/high and there’s music in the air. What? I actually never gotten to know anyone there, you can't really talk
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:47 PM
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Sexual success builds confidence, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:42 PM
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Lol I'm from Europe too... Still, most guys never ever hooked up even after years of weekly going to clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:41 PM
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Why can’t men simply be sexier Translation: why don't men possess better genetic material. Don't give me that "he can't dress well" bs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:05 PM
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“Jesus, I find him so ugly. He deserves someone who thinks he’s hot.” Lol, poor fella. I'm pretty sure nobody finds him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:53 PM
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I get invited to parties and nothing happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:35 PM
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Like physical standards that would put a guy in the top 10% You mean like normal women's standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:00 AM
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What, redpill says that when women look for LTR they raise looks standards? And when looking up short term lowers? Then why would they need to looksmaxx? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:21 AM
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What the fuck? Lmao do you have the link?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 06:56 PM
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I know what you meant - that the guy's idea of average is actual 7-8/10, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:29 PM
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Huh? I got a feeling guys now perfectly well that girls are hooking up. They're just bitter it's never not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:36 PM
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As someone without access to casual sex i def do not think very few women are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:34 PM
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Women raise their visual standards for LTRs and they will lower their visual standards for hookups. The studies have the answer and the study data is the red pill. This is not redpill at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:54 PM
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Happened to me lol, not only once, but always
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:37 PM
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I asked a girl friend what is her idea of an average guy and it was an 7/10 guy lol. Then she was talking about her average looking girl friend and when she showed me her, she was actually 6-7/10 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:13 PM
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I was wondering... Do people ask themselves how many people have committed suicide due to spreading of such ***** pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:41 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:18 AM
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My point is that bullying tells you how you are viewed by the group. It views you as weak, a prey. You can be completly normal but since you are the shortest or skinniest you are just an easy prey. Nothing wrong with you What would you say is worse, being bullied to your face about something and knowing what to change or being ostracized and not knowing why? Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:16 AM
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I agree with this, but the sentiment of the commenrt i initially responded to was different
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:01 PM
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I was thinking going to Asia, but i guess i could just passportbroeing to USA 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:38 PM
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Now that i agree lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:23 PM
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I'm 5'9. This is at least 2" below average where i'm from. My height isn't a problem. Might be a bit, but i could be even shorter, i'd just need (near) model face. My face is the problem, this is why: Like he could have a good fashion sense, work out a lil and boom he is attracted af especially if his fashion is catered to the female gaze. is laughable af. Fashion and working out won't make you attractive enough. You still need genes for that. I've been working out for 8+ years, altough my muscl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:18 PM
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Thats not blackpill lol. They also say things like investing in good fashion won't work if you're not born with chad genes, to which I disagree This is actually correct, unless you are okay with not being her first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:07 PM
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Or if you ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:04 PM
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Getting rich and or passportbroeing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:04 PM
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Of course, nothing guarantees attraction. So whole section, worthless 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:56 PM
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So a below average guy just have to learn how to flirt vwry well, and he's in?😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:55 PM
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Lmao, u've written what you've written. Your words, not mine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:47 AM
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Lol, i used to do this and i was just ignored or looked as "wtf this ugly guy think he is??"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:46 AM
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Sex is much more easily found But then you go on to tell the opposite lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:36 AM
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Women have called me cute tho, but when it came to prove their words with action (just agreeing on a date) there were crickets and excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:35 AM
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that someone who isn’t super handsome has to work his ass off to max out his looks. And still fall short to the natural guy dat barely gives a shit about how he looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:26 AM
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Don't worry, you can't really improve much your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:21 AM
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Based and brutalpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:20 AM
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I'm 29 and an incel. I know plenty of older guys that are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:18 AM
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You are vile. There is no differ than being skinny aka weak and kids are very primal. Animal predators pick on the weakest all the time. Imagine if i would say "hot take, but women deserves to be raped because she will dress more modest" or sum bs like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:17 AM
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When they should have been making them go outside and interacting with the real world. They didn't force me, coz they didn't need to, i did it by myself. I still can't get an average girl to agree on a date with me, so can we please stop with this "you don't know how to socialize, that's why you are single"? I've seen the ugliest men irl pull lots of women because they were confident I haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:11 AM
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Nah, most incels are your average guy, not some socialy awkward dork lol. Remember, 60+% of 18-30 men in USA are single. 80% of men are deemed "below average looking". Your average woman wants nothing with an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:36 AM
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So what did you do to become more attractive? Livin my dreams lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:28 AM
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On the opposite side, average men are getting more fat and ugly and uneducated and poor and filled with social and mental anxiety. Men that are all-around without flaw are so rare Fat guys are a staple only in the US. Here in EU the competition is fierce af. Education and money means jack shit. Ugly is smth you are born with. The only guys that are attractive are guys that won genetic lottery. This myth "unattractive guys are just lazy unkempt fat basement dweelers" needs to die. Men that are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:34 AM
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Why do you think dat?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:11 AM
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I'm not a virgin. That said, i haven't fucked in 2+ years, so might as well be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:34 AM
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Your end statement said it all. Women crave Chad, period. You are either conceived as one or not. There is no way to become a Chad. U probably live in the USA, but here in the EU the competition is fierce af. Rarely anybody is fat, and every guy is looksmaxxing like crazy. I was a 4 before i looksmaxxed but since i was never fat or unkempt there was no actual improvement and i'm still average... Remember, women rate 80% of guys as below average. I have an above average pay but that doesn't mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:55 AM
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For me it's not getting the real deal: to be lusted. You paid for this to happen. Like it's not genuine. There is no primary component, ego boost. Otherwise, i agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:38 PM
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Yeah, if i could do that as a guy i would also be single lol. Freedom + peace and ability to have sex/ocassional companionship whenever i'd want would be preferable to some 20+ years marriage to the same girl who could be a pian in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:32 PM
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Millions of college guys who don't have any money to their name have one night stands. Because you need to be hot not rich for those. Stick to your logic. Is it looks, money or personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:20 PM
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This myth "you can become attractive if you put the work in" has to die
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:16 PM
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Ofc there is a spectrum. The catch is, those on the spectrum (not the autistic one) have a very bland dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:14 PM
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Gen X are old, and they mostly think women don't give a shit about looks. There is no building up your attraction lmao. You are either conceived with it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:12 PM
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But but looks are subjective, right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:31 AM
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I think there was a thread and the consensus was 1-2% at best. How bleak? It was a breakthrough point in my life. Probably saved me a fuckton of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:29 AM
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These were my experiences too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:26 AM
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can't keep it in his pants He is not raping
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:23 AM
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can pay for Adam’s personal trainer Yeah, people think hiring a personal trainer will certainly make someone fit, when in reality, the response from training stimulus is highly genetic. Personal trainers are for people who don't have time to educate themselves on this topic. Just lol thinking being fit is enough lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:55 AM
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This isn't about being interesting, but attractive. If you aren't attractive nobody will give you a chance to see if you are interesting (unless you are attention whoring). Yeah, being in shape is pretty much baseline even if the girl isn't in shape herself. Being 5'11 (average, at least where I'm from) is baseline too. Which is genetical. Yeah girls don't need to have a bodybuilder, that's good because it requires good genes and or the use of steroids. I'm definitely there, since I've been work…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:14 PM
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there are tons of things you can do to make yourself more attractive. Yeah, and I did them, the bar is just too high nowadays. Most guys that will do improvement will not gain any dating success, unless they were severely neglected from the start. doing the difficult work Tbh, i love working out, taking care of myself. I do not find any of this work hard at all lmao. What exactly is difficult? if you find these things hard or difficult, dafuq are you doing in life? But, hey, video games are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:55 PM
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Explained you in another comment 😉. I caught you lying anyway, you are unable to conversate 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:52 PM
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Lmao this one flew completely over your head 🤣 Here's a hint: both of your parents contribute to your genetic makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:51 PM
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These stats aren't telling us everything. Everyone except most delusional ones, know that 90+% of single guys struggle like never before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:49 PM
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Delusional...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:14 PM
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The reason why your life sucks donkey balls is your decisions. Absolutely delusional or a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:12 PM
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That means it is your fault. How is picking your parents your fault??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:11 PM
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And most likely never be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:05 PM
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If people get rejected all the time, yes, it's their fault. How is picking your parents, your fault??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:04 PM
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Passport maxxing is "HELLOLADIES" cheat code in a single player GTA San Andreas, beta buxxing is more like modding in GTA Online - sooner or later you will be kicked out (divorced).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:38 PM
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Many guys could use some self-improvement, which doesn't need to be as hard or impossible as some make it out to be - improving your fitness level, fashion and social skills isn't some insurmountable obstacle They barely help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:34 PM
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But other men are doing fine attracting some of those same women The vast majority not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:28 PM
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Yup, it still may not be enough, that's just a fact. There are no GUARANTEES
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:41 AM
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then they would invest in stuff like braces to fix their teeth, plastic surgery to fix facial flaws, chin implants, steroids to build muscle, tattoos, tanning salons, trendy haircuts and fashionable clothes. And money grows on trees
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:28 AM
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Se popolnoma strinjam 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:25 AM
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Me & my homies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:38 AM
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I agree completely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:01 PM
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How to be attractive? good genes, gym, diet, sleep. injections/fillers etc. surgeries. Rip
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:19 AM
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Lmao they aren't rare. Attractive AND that, yeah thats rare
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:16 AM
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By a certain age women’s hair thins What is that age? Most men aren’t bald before old age. Even among white men it’s not the norm before old age, and even once in old age male pattern baldness doesn’t affect all men. By age 21, 25% of men are bald, by age 35, 66% of men are bald and by age 50, 85% of men are bald. I am disfigured, by the way. I’m a burn victim. I can’t say how much it has hurt my chances because I don’t hide the scars on my chest or arms U would be disfigured if burns would be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:16 AM
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Balding in women is extremely rare. I'm caucasin. By a certain age majority of men start to bald. I do shave it off, honestly i prefer the all shaved look, I didn't like my hair (and didn't get any more attention when I had hair) There is still several grands to pay even in turkey. With the housing crisis it's kind of stupid to go for that since i don't own my house. If I had money then i would go all in and completely reconstruct my face. You are a woman, you are desired inherently as long as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:12 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:03 AM
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Then groups would be called Is this guy taken?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:11 PM
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Sucks when you balding. You're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:11 PM
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As i said
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:07 PM
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men are expected to say bullshit like they don’t care about a woman’s job. But men do care if a woman comes from his social class and many care if she has money. Like a lot. Depends on which men ofc. And if we are talking about a serious longterm relationship then it matters more, i'd say. But i still think it's secondary. The ones who genuinely mean it that they don’t care are men who don’t have many options so they can’t be picky. Same with women who genuinely mean they don’t care about looks.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:39 PM
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I have argued that cosmetic surgery might help reduce depression, anxiety and other psychological disorders. Kinda agree. I see 2 problems tho. The first one is, cosmetic surgeries cannot make you objectively physically attractive if your baseline is too low. The second one is: good luck getting insurances onboard that cosmetic surgeries are needed for mental health (and yes i do agree there is a legit potential for that). And then if you would somehow manage to get insurances on board and most …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:32 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:56 PM
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Yupp, but it's gonna take a few years before it's gonna be really accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:51 PM
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I ❤️ meth & bad bitches tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:27 PM
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Ok, we pretty much agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:10 AM
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Women approve of, because biology, not me. I was talking about bone structure (height, frame and skull proportions etc) which is pure genetics, not resources. That is a different topic in mating strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:07 AM
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So basically cold approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:20 PM
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What did they gave you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:10 PM
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The state of dating in 2024. Idk if I'm average tbh, I'm 2" below average height in my country, balding and my face probably isn't attractive. Altough i like very much what i see in the mirror, girls apparently don't. Plus, all the normal women are in steady relationships, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:24 PM
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I have an above average salary and mixed friends group, what is your point? Both don't reach the bar
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:12 PM
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Most women have barely a need
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:20 PM
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Yupp, it's better to watch yourself in the mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:18 PM
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Naturally all animal females expect way more than vice versa. It's called biology (evolution, reproductive cost) not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:10 PM
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For real, when i was dating my exes i didn't watch porn unless we couldn't see each other for 2+ weeks. Like the real thing is soooooo much better than porn...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:22 PM
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Both of my exes wanted me to fuck them harder, grab them more firmly, choke them, spank them and wanted anal more than me 😂 One of the last girls that talked to me was even more extreme - she wanted to be spit, slaped across the face etc One other girl used to fight in bed and her limit was no knives lmao. 90+% of women i talked to were into BDSM and stuff i was kinda shocked lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:17 PM
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They are. All girls wanted it. Its natural women want to be dominated in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:11 PM
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I wonder why...🤔😆 It's why "go to Walmart, you'll see plenty of chumps with a gf there" can't be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:32 PM
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However, daily masturbation from 12 to 23 completely killed my ability to get a proper erection with a real woman Didn't happen to me. I get super boners even if the woman is fat... It's sooo much more stimulating than porn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:02 PM
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I did looksmaxxing because i care about dating and sex. It did not help, still haven't reached the bar. I was already fine on all other aspects. Aka naturally did self-improvement before i even heard about the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:44 AM
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Idk, IRL advice doesn't differ from reddits that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:31 AM
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The truth about biology (evolution)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:28 AM
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unattractive people have to work And still get nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:05 AM
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