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95% are defined by the 5%. Actually, the 5% were defined by the 95%. The words transgender, transsexual etc were not coined by trans people. The 5% are not "defining" the 95%. The fact is that when talking about these issues, a concise way of referring to people who are not transgender is needed. Using cisgender - which is the exact opposite of transgender - is the logical way to do it. I really don't understand what your problem with "cisgender" is. It's no different from "american", "white", "…
/r/MensRights14/08/12 10:19 PM
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Thank you for practical advice instead of just demeaning me. So you have never heard the practical advice of "other people have it harder than you - act accordingly" before?! Sheesh!
/r/seduction21/12/11 11:15 PM
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"She" Do you have any respect?! She isn't "she" - she is she.
/r/seduction21/12/11 05:16 PM
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Another fscked-up transphobic article from the media. The trans protection law doesn't allow men to use the women's restroom - it allows trans women to use the women's restroom. That the media has decided that these trans women are "men" is fscked-up and transphobic.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 10:09 AM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 05:32 PM
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I don't know, but if she had gotten a sex change and you'd broken up with her people would call you a transphobe. Oh, /r/mensrights, you just can't help bringing trans people into it, can you?! You would only be transphobic if your reason for breaking up had transphobic elements in it! This is different from falling in love with a post-op trans person, and breaking up after you find out about their medical condition. So I guess you're fatphobic lol. Possibly. Though given that the healthy lifest…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 11:07 PM
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It seems most of the trans community agrees that people are assigned gender at birth, if they're using terms like "male-assigned at birth". Trans people seem to view assignment as wrong. Like no one should be assigned any gender at birth. When it comes to trans people, your true gender was fundamentally unknowable at birth. At the same time, some want to be viewed as a particular gender, getting insulted if you don't call them a woman. I want to be called by my gender when my gender becomes know…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 10:37 PM
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I see. So the clinical psychologist who diagnosed me and gave me a clean mental bill of health got it wrong?! And the clinical psychiatrist that I had to see a few months later and who also gave me a clean mental bill of health also got it wrong?! Wow.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 04:37 PM
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So you're a comedian?
/r/MensRights15/09/11 04:34 PM
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Just be honest about who you are Yup. I'm a woman. Female. End of story. Thanks.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 11:41 PM
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Some people don't want to enter a relationship with someone who was born a man/woman. Cool. I was born a woman (albeit into a largely, though not entirely, male body). So what is the problem?
/r/MensRights14/09/11 06:43 PM
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I didn't realize sex was such a life-threatening situation. That is because you are not transgender and living in a transphobic society!
/r/MensRights14/09/11 06:42 PM
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your actions aren't victim-less How the fsck do I create victims by having sex with someone who wants me?
/r/MensRights14/09/11 01:06 PM
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the right of other people to not have things done to them that they wouldn't want done Like have good sex with a woman.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 01:05 PM
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And you can't understand why it's think it's wrong to have sex with people when you suspect they might not want to have sex with transsexuals? What am I supposed to do? Have a blanket assumption that just about everyone is transphobic?! Wear a neon sign on my head, or a label on my coat?!
/r/MensRights14/09/11 12:28 AM
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not have to refrain from having sex with people that don't know you very well. Why should I not have the right to such anonymous sex?!
/r/MensRights14/09/11 12:25 AM
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What do you think should be done to help them bridge that gap? In a word - education. The rest of my life is going to be a struggle for acceptance as a regular female. And that is what I am - a regular female, albeit with a rare and "interesting" medical condition. I'm not trying to subvert society (though that seems to be a consequence of my very existence) - I'm just trying to live a normal life as a female in our society. And, as a straight female, I'm also trying to find a man! I'm well awar…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 10:00 PM
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That couldn't have anything to do with the fact that they're mentally ill, right? Umm - whereas there is a higher-than-average incidence of mental problems in the trans community, to paint all trans people as mentally ill is simply grossly transphobic.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 03:34 PM
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the idea of disclosing is placing a condition on your femininity that should not be there. That is, indeed, one of the issues.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 10:14 AM
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You have 3 options: you can intentionally mislead people, you can potentially get murdered, or you can refrain from having sex with people that would probably murder you if they knew you were a transsexual. The issue is how to find out who might murder me, and disclosing my trans status is the worst way of finding that out, hence I shouldn't disclose.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 10:12 AM
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If you're cisgendered, and you're in a place where you know that a large amount of people would feel violated if they discovered that they'd had sex with a cisgendered woman, than I'd consider that morally wrong as well. In other words, you believe it is morally wrong for a bisexual woman to not disclose that to homophobic partners! Good grief - can you not see how ridiculous your position is?! If someone really has a problem with transexuals, then it should on them to ask the question. YES! Tha…
/r/MensRights13/09/11 10:11 AM
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I just understand that they are not identical in every aspect to cisgendered women. WHAT?! Cisgendered women aren't identical in every aspect to other cisgendered women!!! What the fsck are you on about?! The bottom line is - if you hold trans women to a particular standard, and don't hold cis women to the same standard, then you are transphobic.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 12:44 AM
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If you are sleeping with people while fully expecting that if you were to reveal a certain fact yourself, they would actually try to murder you Which is why I shouldn't disclose.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 12:41 AM
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You are an asshole And you wonder why I don't use my precious time to educate you?!
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:54 PM
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You want answers to your questions. Let's take them one by one. how does your rights trump the rights of another? How do your rights trump mine? I'll tell you why my rights trump yours. When I meet someone, their life isn't the one in danger. how can there be any kind of real relationship if an essential truth is being concealed. Essential to whom? I mean, there are a ton of truths about my life that aren't being disclosed. It could be years before I disclose what the colour of my first bicycle …
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:52 PM
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And how, exactly, am I misleading people. Oh, yes - I'm not a woman. Nor a man for that matter. Way to dehumanise me! I'd better get that spray...
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:44 PM
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A breast implant is not the same as a natural breast. OK - so you require all your dates to disclose whether they have had breast implants? Yeah, right.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:43 PM
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It's a joke. What, now? I don't think it's a joke that there are men who equate manhood with penis - that equation is the cause of a lot of really bad things in the world, and is no joke. You know, like r/transphobiaproject. Yes - the funniest thing about /r/transphobia project is the bit in the sidebar where it says - A staggering 41% of [trans people] reported attempting suicide compared to 1.6% of the general population, with rates rising for those who lost a job due to bias (55%), were haras…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 05:21 PM
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/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:49 PM
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There are a ton of other things that he said that show that he doesn't understand what the fsck he is talking about, and I've got better things to do than to deconstruct such a wall of ignorance.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:18 PM
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You'd like it if I were, I presume.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:17 PM
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"not disclosing due to fear, and never having to" How about "not disclosing, because it's none of your fscking business, until I decide that it is your business". Of course you are going to retort "but of course it's my business!". Why is it your business? Because of transphobia? Yes, there may be social consequences for you of being associated with me, but those are amongst the things that I need to suss out before I disclose. Obviously I need to find out if someone is accepting. But I need to …
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:16 PM
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Bedwetting doesn't affect the kind of support a person needs decades later, or their personality and emotional needs or sensitivities. If I were a man, who was with a post-op woman, I'd want to know what is required of me to meet her needs. Of course you would! The good news is that if she doesn't disclose to you, then she obviously needs nothing from you vis-a-vis support for her transgenderism. I'm saying I think it would be best to gauge a potential longterm pertner's stance on transpersons D…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:47 PM
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Isn't it usually only death for you if you mislead some one in a way that provokes a violent rage? No - it can be death for me because I exist.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:44 PM
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R/TransphobiaProject: Blatantly encouraging deception since inception. /r/mensrights: blatantly ignoring the science of gender, and reducing manhood to the presence or absence of a penis.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:43 PM
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transgender lifestyles This isn't a lifestyle. You need to learn what it is that you are talking about before writing such nonsense. We're done.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:45 AM
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should include a person's "birth gender" ... because knowing the birth gender means that they will then cease to see the trans woman for the woman that she is. The reason, I believe, for this panic about disclosure is that, when it comes down to it, the vast majority of men do not see trans women as women. Hence the only way I can be a woman is to never disclose. If you did see me as a woman, then you would not need me to disclose, as there would be nothing to disclose. So that is what this is a…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:44 AM
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In other words, trans women are not women. Welcome to the world of transphobia.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:39 AM
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Me
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:38 AM
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That must be it.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:38 AM
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Sorry, you are in fact required to disclose information when you know that the other person is certainly or almost certainly to not want to date / sleep with you if they know that info. In other words, what you are saying is that the vast majority of men are transphobic.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:37 AM
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We're talking about medical PRESENT In what way? How is a post-op fully transitioned woman have a present non-communicable medical condition that requires disclosure?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:36 AM
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pretending to not be trans when they really are I pretend that I have light brown hair, whereas in fact it's quite grey. OMG bring out the police - RAPE!
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:35 AM
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is being a man a medical condition now? Of course not, but being a woman with a penis is a medical condition. it should be disclosed because I would want to know something like that No - it shouldn't be disclosed, because I don't want to tell everyone something like that. Or, are my needs less important than yours? if that means fucking with my mental health by way of sexual identity Well, my physical health is at stake, possibly my life. And as for your precious sexual identity - you would be m…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:33 AM
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Some men are not attracted to male parts Well, right there is your disclosure! So we are obviously not talking about pre-op women - we are talking about post-op!!! And post-op women do not have an obligation to disclose.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:30 AM
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Why pursue a relationship with somebody that is so bigoted? Umm - we are going around in circles. The question at hand is whether to find out if they are bigoted by disclosing. And even if their preference is bigoted, why disrespect it, rather than finding a more tolerant/open minded person? I would prefer to find out that someone has a "preference" without disclosing - for pretty obvious reasons.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 01:52 AM
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Disclosure is the worst way of protecting myself from attack from religious bigots or others. Disclosure is the worst way of finding out "personal preferences" (aka "transphobia"). As for being infertile - what is being discussed here isn't the disclosure of the fact of infertility, but rather the disclosure of the cause. Obviously if someone wants me in their life for my child-producing capabilities, there is a problem, but that does not require me to disclose why I cannot produce children.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 01:34 AM
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even if you don't care the tiniest bit about what was omitted, the fact that it WAS omitted can completely destroy any and all trust. So if it was ommitted that you were bed-wetting until age 6, the fact that it was ommitted would completely destroy any and all trust. infertility That is a different question. There are many different causes of infertility. The question being asked is whether the cause, not the fact, of infertility needs to be disclosed. Calm the heck down. I'm being told that I …
/r/MensRights12/09/11 01:29 AM
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I'm not sure why a trans person would keep that a secret from somebody they're about to have sex with Because non-communicable medical conditions which have since been treated aren't relevant or important.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:56 AM
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There are two different issues here - one is safety (and we are in agreement about that), and the other is the various rights of the two parties to know stuff. No-one has an automatic right to know my medical history, when that history has no effect on their lives.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:54 AM
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As a mild analogy; if someone took money from me, then admitted it later, I'd be far more angry about that than I would have been if they told me they needed money and gave me the choice of giving it to them. So your partner having a medical condition is akin to taking money from you? Really?! You get that annoyed with your partners for having non-communicable medical conditions since birth? I don't feel it wise for ANYONE to be in a relationship with a person who they believe could be a danger …
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:44 AM
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/r/MensRights is generally accepting of the idea that people should be able to identify as the gender they feel they belong to and that they should be provided the same rights as somebody born as the corresponding sex Except when it comes to disclosure. Only trans women are required to disclose non-communicable medical conditions they have - cis women aren't required to do the same. So /r/MensRights does not believe that trans women have the same rights as cis women.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:02 AM
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I believe it's wrong for a trans person to have sex with somebody without disclosing their status Why? Because a trans woman is a man? Because women should disclose each and every non-communicable medical condition they suffer from before having sex?
/r/MensRights11/09/11 11:58 PM
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I can see your point, but waiting until after can cause serious issues that are far worse than disclosing beforehand. First of all, what issues, and second of all, issues for whom? AFAICS the issue is that the other person in the relationship is transphobic, which makes it a lose-lose situation for the trans person. Hence the only thing that matters is the trans person's judgement as to whether or when to disclose. As for "deceiving" - it is only deception if you believe that a trans woman isn't…
/r/MensRights11/09/11 11:56 PM
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Um, how would I know that they would be capable of causing my death before I sex them? Should I assume that if they are male, they would kill me?
/r/MensRights11/09/11 11:38 PM
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All folk are welcome here! Except trans people who are trying to remain alive by not always disclosing before sex.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 10:08 PM
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lying, manipulative sociopaths Yes - that is what trans people who are trying to remain alive are.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 10:08 PM
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It's still true that it's wrong for a transexual person not to disclose it before engaging in sexual contact. This is not "transphobia". Well then it must be homophobia.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 10:07 PM
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I said you were a member of the silent majority that lends credibility to the loonie minority. OK - you've made up your mind about me. I guess we are done. Thanks.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 04:24 PM
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I don't think you are getting my point either. MANY feminists harm others because of their feminism I'm not one of them. You talk of numbers, and how I'm in the minority. First of all, I'm not in the U.S. - we don't seem to have your extremism in many things. Second, all the closest feminists to me are M2F trans people, and M2F trans people tend to be very sympathetic towards men's rights. What you seem to be saying is that because of 9/11 and what that event said about Islam, Muslims should aba…
/r/MensRights24/08/11 12:01 PM
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You answered this - but about not unwittingly adding my voice and support to those who would do harm to others. with this - Who knows what they (trans people) are doing with children when others aren't watching? There are people who assume that because I'm trans, I do stuff to children. There are others that assume that because I'm feminist, I'm about adding my voice that do harm to others. What is it about feminism that speaks to you specifically, that could not be spoken to outside of feminism…
/r/MensRights23/08/11 02:18 PM
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Do you think that the women who do play up the "I'm just a girl" thing when it suits them poison the well for everyone else? Do you really need me to answer that? Also, do you think feminism has helped or hindered you wrt people not taking you seriously as a tech expert? I'd have to say helped. Before feminism, a woman couldn't vote, and many very competant women were pretty much tied to the homemaker role. once people saw what she was capable of Indeed. But I'll bet your grandfather didn't have…
/r/MensRights23/08/11 02:10 PM
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I think your key question / point is this - If your beliefs are 100% in line with egalitarianism, and run counter to a large percentage of feminists, why call yourself a feminist rather than an egalitarian? I do not believe that your definition of feminism is one that hates transgender people, but many other feminists' definition of feminism is. If you are 100% egalitarian and vehemently oppose some of the loudest 10% of feminists, and disagree with another 20% or so of the more active ones, the…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 10:26 PM
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Was there any particular event (or series of events) that triggered it, or it is just a realization you had that, as a female, you will be a target and therefore need to be more careful? All of the above. As a female, I'm a target (though so is everyone). As a female who used to have male strength, I know something of the disadvantage I'm at, and that helps me feel vulnerable. And, yes, there have been instances where I've felt distinctly uncomfortable. Granted most of those instances involved p…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 10:13 PM
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this makes it easier for extremists to co-opt the movement and do terrible things under the guise of equality So maybe I'm an extremist, or maybe I'm trying to reclaim something from extremists.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:15 PM
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People talk to their contact. You're generally expected to fill in technical details. That's the way it's always been with me. Well, that's never the way it worked with me. Until I transitioned...
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:12 PM
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a big umbrella movement that also has anti-trans ideas under that big umbrella. You might not see them but they are there. Of course I see them!!! It isn't that the movement is a big umbrella. It is that lots of little umbrellas have co-opted the same name to describe themselves.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:12 PM
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Um...yes? You choose to associate yourself with a movement that has some ugly, ugly members with ugly, ugly ideas that get ugly, ugly things done. Well, if that is what you think of me, then I think we're done. I'm going to use an extreme example: I'm a Stalinist. Stalin was one person. Feminism isn't one thing. That means that, bad or good, it will be about advocating for women's interests That is how it started. The U.S. started with the idea that "all men are created equal" - should women tak…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 07:24 PM
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If you experience in that way... That's fine. If you only experience the ways you are oppressed, and do not experience the ways you are very very lucky, you will never be really happy.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 07:16 PM
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I think a lot of women approach "being taken seriously" not very seriously, if you know what I mean. That is, MANY women play up the helpless/not-too-bright/I'm-just-a-girl thing in order to manipulate men to help them with their shit. I won't contest that assertion. However, I was with my manager on a conference phone call recently. On the other side of the call were some clients, and I was introduced to them as "(female name) - our technical expert". The technical questions were directed at my…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 07:05 PM
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So you actually think I've aligned myself with a movement that believes that transgender women are nothing more than sick, abusive men who are trying to appropriate women's experiences and even women's bodies? That says more about you than me. But other people, some of them not feminists, also define what feminism means to them. Indeed. Sounds like a lot of those people have decided that feminism is evil, in spite of the clear fact that feminism isn't one thing. I have to wonder if part of the r…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 06:52 PM
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Men's suffering is taken less seriously, boys are called silly in the classroom, and men are not even allowed to talk about their feelings! Fifth time? How can you be taken seriously if your that restricted I wonder. My emotions might be taken more seriously, but since when are emotions taken seriously on a conference call with clients? Or in an interview room with people who have a job to offer? Just not as much as a woman... Just (almost certainly) not as much as this woman, for the reason out…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 04:02 PM
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That's to say her pregnant hormone level was higher than normal. I can sympathise... I wonder doesn't a transexual receive a very high level of hormones? No - the doctors try and keep us within the normal range for a woman. Of course, some that self-medicate might experiment with high levels of estrogen. However, it turns out that if you have too much estrogen, your body will turn it into testosterone!
/r/MensRights22/08/11 03:53 PM
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Women, just like poor people, die earlier, retire later, get less health care, get treated like atm's in family courts, are considered less valuable as parents, girls take divorce worse (because of patriarchy), and women commit suicide much more frequently. Men get taken less seriously, men's opinions count for less, men have to constantly be aware of their surroundings at night etc etc etc. As I said, I avoided most of the injustices as a man. My earning power meant that I got good health care.…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 03:41 PM
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Also it is tedious to here women circle jerk and subjugate about how boys should talk about feelings, it is much like crocodiles discussing how strange and deficient it is antelope don't enjoy swimming. Trans woman here. I've written elsewhere on this thread about how estrogen and testosterone give rise to a different quality of emotional lives. And so you are damn right - if you have testosterone and hence aren't subject to the emotional lives that many (not all) women have, then it is frankly …
/r/MensRights22/08/11 03:26 PM
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So, on the one hand, Feminism is nebulous and on the other "feminism" is advocacy of rights of women, with some combination of one or more of these three things: 1) antipathy toward men or their rights: 2) disregard (apathy) of the rights of men 3) support of those rights of men that are permissible to the feminist in question I see. I've spent most of my life trying to live as a man. Contrary to popular belief, I didn't "change" my gender because I hate men. Quite apart from the fact that it is…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 02:56 PM
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So, on the one hand, Feminism is nebulous and on the other "feminism" is advocacy of rights of women, with some combination of one or more of these three things: 1) antipathy toward men or their rights: 2) disregard (apathy) of the rights of men 3) support of those rights of men that are permissible to the feminist in question I see. I've spent most of my life trying to live as a man. Contrary to popular belief, I didn't "change" my gender because I hate men. Quite apart from the fact that it is…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 02:55 PM
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Since 95% of men's rights problems come from And where do 95% of women's rights problems come from? So, what is it to be? Mud-slinging, or an attempt to find common ground? Maybe mud-slinging is where it needs to be for you right now. I hope, for your sake more than for anyone else's, that that will change for you soon.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 01:16 PM
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No, I really can't agree with a group who thinks it's appropriate to ruin someone's life because two drunk people had sex and one of them had male genitalia while the other regretted it. I can't really agree with a group who believe that transgender women are nothing more than sick, abusive men who are trying to appropriate women's experiences and even women's bodies! And there is a branch of feminism that believes exactly that. But that doesn't stop me from being a feminist. Why? Because I can …
/r/MensRights22/08/11 01:13 PM
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I'm going to jump in on this. I would have thought the common themes would be fairly obvious - themes that are quite close to the heart of many trans people - namely the stupid expectations, prejudices and limitations that society has for both genders. Society has created this huge myth called "gender". As a trans person, I probably can see that it is a myth clearer than most. However, as a trans person, I can also see that there is an aspect to this myth that is based on some observable realiti…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 10:27 AM
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Why am I a subscriber? My experience as a guy taught me about the often unspoken injustices against men. Injustices are bad, unspoken injustices are intolerable. However, I've only got one more bit of good news for you, then it's into the bad news. The other bit of good news is that you are right - there is a component of gender that is innate that goes beyond genitals, hormones etc. Now the bad news. You are also wrong - there is a component of gender that is a complete social fabrication, and …
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:50 AM
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Having stronger emotional displays: Is that only because of your estrogen intake or is there also an acceptance of your nature and because of this, a willingness to divulge (since no one is going to question a woman crying, must less give you shit for it)? I do my crying in private. But, in general, yes, equating crying with being un-male is very wrong.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:23 AM
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So, the most effeminate man you met probably had far more testosterone than the most masculine woman. Trans people tend to be quite aware of our hormone levels -- however, we usually consider it to be quite private information, so I cannot really comment. What I was talking about were the emotional effects of hormones, and how that might have an impact on personality. What you are talking about is personality, and how that might be "caused" by hormones. I don't think they are quite the same thin…
/r/MensRights22/08/11 08:59 AM
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Trans woman here - someone who has personal experience of this "emotional and relational" stuff from both sides. First, the (slightly) bad news. On estrogen, whereas I am not more emotional, my emotions (when I do get them) are quite a bit more intense - especially when my hormone levels are changing - and that seems to be the pretty universal experience amongst trans women (and the reverse experience for trans men). When I cry, I don't just cry - I bawl. Sometimes it can be quite difficult to d…
/r/MensRights21/08/11 11:29 PM
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Still haven't addressed the core issue. Why is it that "mankind" and "all men are created equal" are not things to jump up-and-down over, yet "feminism" is? You seem much much more upset over the latter than the former. Is it because "feminism" starts with "fem", and hence it couldn't be any good?
/r/MensRights16/08/11 02:39 PM
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Feminism, as a movement I thought I said this before - feminism isn't a movement. It is many movements. Obviously I'm not a member of that feminist movement that is transphobic. Obviously you (and I) cannot be members of feminist movements that are misandric. There are feminist movements that deny that I am female - that see me as an abuser of women who appropriate women's experiences and even bodies. How fscked up is that?! So don't get into a p1ssing contest with me around the subject of the a…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 11:46 PM
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You didn't, but for some reason you call yourself a feminist when there are better alternatives. There are times when I call myself a transsexual, too. It has to do with weighing up the need to be understood versus the need to be pedantically accurate. And that is what is called "living in the real world". You should try it.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 11:40 PM
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Obviously I prefer "egalitarianism" to "feminism", and "transgender" to "transsexual", but I live in the real world, where things aren't always what they should be. You're acting like I invented the word "feminism".
/r/MensRights15/08/11 11:17 PM
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You expect women to see past words like "mankind" and phrases like "all men are created equal", yet you cannot see past "feminism"? Double standard? Or just immaturity?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 09:37 PM
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Transsexual is not a word that describes equality. Neither is it a word that describes a sexuality - I thought we had been over this?! A gender charged word should not, and cannot, describe an egalitarian movement. Actually, there is a gender charged word that describes an egalitarian movement, just as there is a word with "sexual" in it that has nothing to do with sexuality! The english language isn't perfect. Etymology doesn't always work. Get over it! In time, these problems will sort themsel…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 09:11 PM
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There are better words to use that are more inclusive, and don't alienate men, such as "egalitarianism" and "equalism". Just as there are better words than transsexualism. Your point being? In addition, there is a lot of very harmful theory built into feminism As I said, transphobia is rampant in certain types of feminism, so you don't need to teach me that.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 08:46 PM
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The word "feminism" has "feminine" built into it. Etymology. As I pointed out with my transsexualism example, etymology cannot always be trusted. This is sexist. If etymology could always be trusted, then this statement would be true. But etymology cannot always be trusted. I have to see past the negative connotations of the inaccurate link in people's minds between my "transsexual" condition and sexuality. I'm sure you can see past the feminine root contained in the word feminism.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 07:04 PM
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The term "feminist" is inherently sexist (by simple etymology). First of all, I didn't call myself a feminist, I called myself a trans-feminist. I did that partly because of the amounts of transphobia in much of mainstream feminism. Secondly, feminism isn't just one thing. So please don't presume which "feminism" I subscribe to. As for etymology - the phenomenon of transsexualism has nothing to do with sexuality, so etymology doesn't always work.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:50 PM
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I'm more annoyed when its thrown in my face as a weapon. Easy way to disarm the weapon - "yup, I've got privilege - so what?".
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:46 PM
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Edit: added "silver spoon" paragraph. Only seeing that now... "Being born with a silver spoon in your mouth" is all well and good, but do you actually expect those who have worked hard, triumphed over adversity, made a name for themselves, and are financially well off as a result, shouldn't give their children every advantage they can? Of course they should!!! Neither would I expect that those children feel guilty!!! However, what they should have is awareness of their situation. I mean, how mad…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 12:31 PM
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"My privilege is less good than yours" It may be that the answer to that question is - "yes, my privilege is more powerful/useful/whatever". That is celebrating your privilege. If I were to meet a person born with a silver spoon in their mouth, my economic privilege would be less than theirs. So? If I were to win the lottery, my economic privilege would be greater than yours. So?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 12:27 PM
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Indeed. As a (trans-)feminist, I encourage you to celebrate your privilege. Part of the reason why I do that is because it isn't possible for you to celebrate your privilege without being aware of it, and that awareness is something I need to see in you. Some of your privilege you've earned, some you haven't. You absolutely deserve to celebrate the privilege you've earned. As for the stuff you haven't, please be aware of it, but also enjoy it!
/r/MensRights15/08/11 12:13 PM
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Being a sociology or humanities major makes it easier. Umm - I'm a physics major. Or am I misreading your response?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 12:10 PM
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marginalized falsely as "mysognistic" and "oppressive" just for discussing their feelings of oppression. Sounds like the phenomenon of being resented for not acknowledging privilege - though of course that isn't necessarily what that is. "It's impossible to be sexist against men" Here's the thing. There is a lot of hurt on both sides, and both sides need their hurt to be heard. Someone is going to have to start swallowing their hurt so that the other side gets to be heard. It's unfair, but it lo…
/r/MensRights15/08/11 12:59 AM
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Yes, but calling up someone else on their privileges when they are in the middle of their hurt from their oppressions isn't really the compassionate way of doing it, IMO.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 12:21 AM
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People aren't generally bothered by someone having privilege - they are bothered when they don't acknowledge their privilege. I've acknowledged that I've gained the privilege of people being nicer to me now that I'm a female in the eyes of society. Do you resent me that privilege? Or would you resent it if I denied that it exists or tried to say that it isn't important because of the other ways I'm oppressed or whatever? I'm both privileged and oppressed. So are you. So are the females you write…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 11:35 PM
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Could you list some practical ways of going about doing that? Damn good question! In all honesty, the best way of fixing it is to make everyone more attuned to their privilege. Because, when you are attuned to your privilege, you are also attuned to when others around you don't have it, and that is the first most necessary step towards having empathy for such people. The way that society is actually addressing privilege issues is through the law. That is problematic, for many reasons - one of th…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:59 PM
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There are women who don't take men seriously, too. Indeed. And amongst such women, I would (hopefully!) have a privilege that you don't. Privilege is a funny thing. Sometimes the exact same thing that gives you privilege in one situation takes it away in another. But, as I said, overall, I'd have to say that I've lost privilege. The bottom line is this - privilege isn't something to shirk away from. It is something to be embraced and celebrated. Most of it is a natural consequence of diversity. …
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:49 PM
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When I said that "I can't comment", I meant that I have no personal experience of the subject in question - I wasn't questioning the truth of what you were saying.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:46 PM
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I admire your brave choices in life and for staying true to yourself. Well, I didn't actually choose to be a woman. But thank you for the compliment on my courage. That said, there are definite female privileges. I wouldn't deny that for a millisecond. There are men who don't take women seriously because they are women, but this isn't privilege, It is if you are one of the men who these men take seriously. privilege is a legal advantage Legal privilege is just one type of privilege. There are ot…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:43 PM
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any advantage is a privilege. Nope - you got what I said backwards. I didn't say that any advantage is a privilege - I said that every privilege leads to an advantage. This term can only be applied to social mores insofar as social mores constitute laws Social mores are usually quite intractable, and that makes them pretty equivalent to laws. only even defensible when the mores in question are universal and enforced with the harshest of social sanctions. No - they don't need to be enforced with …
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:39 PM
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As a transgender woman - i.e. someone who used to be treated as a male by society but is now treated as a female - I have to disagree with your statement that what you call situational privilege is in favour of women. I've both lost and gained privilege through my transition. Overall, I'd have to say that I've lost privilege. Of course, much of the privilege I've lost is because I'm now a member of a villified minority. Still, even in situations where my trans status is unknown to those around m…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:31 PM
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Sorry, I'm not going to feel guilty for being born. Privilege is not something to feel guilty about - it is something to be celebrated and enjoyed. It is a natural consequence of diversity. The problem with privilege isn't that it exists - it is that so few people are aware of their privilege. And, when you are aware of your privilege, you will be able to celebrate it, and you will also be a more useful person to those who don't have your privileges. OK - in fairness - some privileges are proble…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 09:16 PM
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It doesn't mean "advantage" ... the law is different for you than for someone who is not you, in a way that favours you. i.e. in a way that bestows an advantage on you. There are no legal rights which they possess which a woman does not. Privilege goes beyond just legal rights - it also extends into unwritten social conventions that bestow advantages and disadvantages.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 09:11 PM
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The act of rejecting their assigned masculinity might make some MtFs negatively disposed towards MRAs In my case, my gender struggle has made me even more receptive to men's rights issues. How come? I have an over-developed sense of how horrible it is to be male....
/r/MensRights27/07/11 06:08 PM
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They have rejected the gender identity that society has assigned them at birth, and chosen another. Point of information - trans people no more choose their gender than anyone does. I didn't choose to be female - I discovered that I am female.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 05:55 PM
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I would welcome a full, public posting of the entire conversation WTF are you talking about? I thought you reposted the conversation above?
/r/MensRights22/07/11 03:39 AM
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It is a subreddit to wallow in persecution complexes and indulge in hatred. Pot. Kettle. Black.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 01:34 PM
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What the fsck are you talking about? Would it have been better if I responded to nom-nom-nom by saying "I am more of a human than you are"?. Actually - yes - maybe it would have.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 04:13 AM
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a fact which has been known to make them so upset at you that they seriously consider murdering you ... Almost all murders of trans people have nothing to do with withholding information about trans status - almost all murders of trans people have to do with the fact that trans people simply exist. Hence I must withhold my trans status until I figure out (somehow) that the cis person I'm with isn't someone who will murder me for existing. The relatively much much much smaller chance that my with…
/r/MensRights19/07/11 07:18 AM
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However, I, and the majority of the community here, feel that it's not ok for transgenders to have sex with people if that person believes that the transgender person is not, in fact transgender (i.e. deception). What about intersex people? Are they required to disclose as well? What about those who have had breast augmentation? A transgender woman is just a particular type of woman. What other types of woman are required to disclose to you?
/r/MensRights19/07/11 07:10 AM
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In context, feminists are opposed to people saying that they will commit violence against others for being who and what they are.
/r/MensRights19/07/11 06:58 AM
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You're gonna get discovered mid-sex and get the FUCK beaten out of you and you asked for it. That is absolutely disgusting. I am more of a man than you are.
/r/MensRights17/07/11 05:59 AM
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If it's not important then why not do it? Because it's none of their business. So you getting what you want excuses harming others? And how the fsck am I harming anyone? You're gonna get discovered mid-sex and get the FUCK beaten out of you and you asked for it. So what you are saying is that not only would no man ever love me - all men just want to beat the fsck out of me. Reported.
/r/MensRights17/07/11 05:38 AM
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You still here? ಠ_ಠ You must have no life! you are the one withholding information. I'm sorry that you have a difficult situation, but the remedy for that is not to make the lives of others worse to benefit yourself. Your solution is I put my life in danger for the benefit of others. Why on earth would I do that? It matters to the vast majority of men that the "vagina" they are having sex with is actually an altered penis. Every vagina is made of the same kind of material that goes into making a…
/r/MensRights16/07/11 01:55 PM
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Presumably the levels of enjoyment would be even higher for men who are raped?
/r/MensRights19/06/11 11:20 PM
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If you want to avoid being raped, you should not dress like a slut So if you dress like a slut you increase your chances of being raped? And if you don't dress like a slut your chances are significantly lower? Frankly, I doubt it. Rapists don't look for those who look like sluts - they look for those who aren't paying attention and/or who look vulnerable etc. Is it that that you need to address in order to lower your chances of being raped. TL;DR That's some bad advice, there.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 03:46 PM
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As a reader you may agree, you may disagree or you may be neutral to what each author finds I took this to mean that masculinity is actually undefinable - something that I believe to be true. Everyone has their own individual feeling on what masculinity is. Ditto femininity.
/r/MensRights07/06/11 11:11 AM
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Your anger is a natural and even necessary response to what happened. First step is probably to get it out of your system, and that may involve professional help. Also, someone mentioned making just friends with women. I don't know how that sits with you - maybe it's too early or something? Obviously you are going to have to protect yourself from having the same, or similar, thing happen to you again. One strategy might be to pretend that all women have something going on that makes them complet…
/r/MensRights05/06/11 03:53 AM
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And women like to keep it that way Believe it or not, there are women who can't stand the assumption that they are supposed to be the primary care-givers of children. However, that doesn't stop the perception, generally held by both men and women, that women are, indeed, the primary care-givers. Less so in the west, but very much so in much of the rest of the world, in particular in those places highlighted in the video. because women know that men value children's welfare highly, and women by a…
/r/MensRights05/06/11 03:18 AM
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Right, let's have a look at that video. First of all - the erasure of the gender of the people on the submarine. Well, duh! How many submarines have even one woman on them? There is simply no need to mention the gender of the people on just about any submarine you care to mention, and everyone knows that. Ditto the coal miners. As for the roadworks example, the video itself points out why the gender of those people are not mentioned! As the video says, no women are given jobs on roadworks, hence…
/r/MensRights04/06/11 07:55 PM
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elevating women into something more deserving So you don't believe that what happened was nothing more than a combatting of the automatic assumption of all four victims being male that many people would have, or nothing more than the newscaster having a moment of, albeit unprofessional, humanity in personally identifying with one of the victims? You believe that what actually happened is part of some sort of major world-wide conspiracy against men or something? Well, if that is what you believe …
/r/MensRights04/06/11 04:12 PM
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unchecked female privilege plain and simple. In fairness, the article saying "I found this remark chilling at the time" and "Violence by women and girls has been rising steadily over the past decade, but to those of my generation the fact that the female can be as deadly as the male has been slow to sink in" was an act of acknowledging something that needs to be acknowledged. i think all female privilege goes unchecked sigh So you live in a world where no woman ever checks her privilege? I'm tem…
/r/MensRights04/06/11 04:04 PM
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But why would you even need to know that one of the deceased is female? I thought your problem was that the gender of most of those that died was erased? the newscasters tone becomes more noticably sorrowful when she It's called "personally identifying with a victim". Yes, it is unprofessional for a newscaster to do that, but newscasters (even female ones) are human.
/r/MensRights04/06/11 03:45 PM
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It is probably unusual for a woman to be at an oil refinery. In other words, if it hadn't been pointed out to me, I would have assumed that all four people who had died were male.
/r/MensRights04/06/11 12:07 PM
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Women's quota: 30% LGBTQ quota: 30 % Disabled quota: 30% Foreigner quota: 30% Actually, the way it seems to be working is that take the percentage of the population that are in that group, multiply by 0.6, and that is your quota. So, 50% are female, multiply by 0.6, and you get 30% quota for females. 10% are LGBTQ, multiply by 0.6, and you get 6% quota for LGBTQ. Now, since pretty much every individual is in more than one group (e.g. a lesbian ticks both the "woman" box and the "LGBTQ" box), the…
/r/MensRights29/05/11 11:15 AM
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The question is when two oppressed parties are at odds, which gets to claim greater oppression. Why do people who are oppressed have to play oppression olympics? When there are two oppressed parties, then there are two oppressed parties!
/r/MensRights21/05/11 04:38 PM
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Not until now. Do you want to get to the point?
/r/MensRights20/05/11 12:46 PM
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The oppression card gets to be paid by those who are being oppressed, or those who others are trying to oppress. That sounds good but means nothing. Seriously, read what you wrote. I did, and I don't see any problem.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:59 AM
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The reason the crime is 'more heinous' is because of the victim involved. Nope - the reason a hate crime is 'more henious' is because the victim is attacked because and only because they are a member of a particular community. Hence the attack is actually aimed at an entire community of people. If you had been in McDonalds that day at that time, you would more than likely not have been attacked. If I had been, I probably would have been attacked. This wasn't a random attack - it was targetted. A…
/r/MensRights19/05/11 03:23 PM
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Since some people believe that the trans person was still technically 'a man' (as in the trans person has a penis), that it is female on male violence. Is female on male violence a hate crime? First of all, she isn't a man. Second, is female on male violence an attempt to say to men "you do not have basic human rights" in the same way that this woman was essentially being told she doesn't have the right to pee in a setting congruent with her identity? How does the math on two black women beating…
/r/MensRights19/05/11 12:35 PM
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This is why the concept of 'privilege' and hate crimes are so fucking filled with bullshit. It makes some victims more worthy than others bases on their gender/race/sexual preference and in this case gender identity. It doesn't make some victims more worthy than others - it makes some crimes more heinous than others. This wasn't just a crime of two women beating up another - this was a crime of two women trying to make it impossible for an entire section of the community to exist. The victim was…
/r/MensRights19/05/11 11:49 AM
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You have conceded that there are things that are more important than free speech. And you have yet to provide one. I did. Namely life. You would still have to establish that this was one of them. That's easy to do. When someone says "such-and-such a person should die because of who and what they are", then that is an example of someone using free speech to advocate death. And then you would have to establish that you could eradicate words from the lips of men. And then you would have to establis…
/r/MensRights17/05/11 12:40 PM
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You realize that some people think gays are a threat to them and that it hurts, confuses, and destabilizes society and that gays should be censored. Of course! Censorship needs to be applied to certain kinds of hateful / slanderous type of speech. I have no more of a right to whip up anti-religious sentiment that ends in church-burnings than priests have the right to whip up anti-gay sentiment that ends in gays being killed. In the case of men's rights, you are mostly correct. However, when it c…
/r/MensRights16/05/11 04:23 PM
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Speech can be used hypnotise - ... like censorship but censorship involves one group saying That their speech is allowed but yours isn't. Exactly! I'm glad you understand. People have individual responsibility and saying crap like I was hypnotized to beat up the gay Guy because someone has expressed the opinion of not liking gays is absurd. Well, the hypnotised aren't able to say that they are hypnotised, so that hypothetical situation cannot really arise. What I'm saying is that those who used …
/r/MensRights15/05/11 08:13 PM
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"Let us wiretap you without any legal process whatsoever." "No, that's crazy." "Child pornography! Let us wiretap you without any legal process whatsoever." "Durrr.... okay." You missed my point entirely! First of all, I presume you agree that such pornography shouldn't be allowed. If you do believe it should be allowed, then I suspect we aren't going to find any common ground. Anyway, assuming you believe it shouldn't be allowed, then you have conceded that free speech isn't an absolute. You ha…
/r/MensRights15/05/11 08:05 PM
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I think it would be wise to look at the percentage of LGBT murdered and compare that to other nations, because the article also says it has the largest LGBTA? Quotation, please? (The reason why I ask is because it seems very strange indeed that Brazil would have more LGBTA people than anywhere else in the world).
/r/MensRights15/05/11 05:08 PM
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<sarcasm> Child abuse sucks - ergo such activity is illegal. No reason to take away people's right to publish kiddie pron (regardless of whether abuse was involved in the production of such pron). The lack of men's rights suck - no reason to stop people's right to say that only men are abusers, that men don't make anywhere near as good as parents as women, that all rape and domestic violence is committed by men, that when it comes to children only men are capable of being irresponsible. </sarcas…
/r/MensRights15/05/11 05:07 PM
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And death sucks even more. Brazil leads the world in LGBT-related deaths Google Translate on the "O Globo" newspaper article says - The most controversial item punished with imprisonment of one to three years and fine those who induce or incite discrimination or prejudice against homosexuals. I believe that an LGBT person's right to life is more important than the right of a church leader to induce or incite discrimination or prejudice against homosexuals - which is what the law is talking about…
/r/MensRights15/05/11 12:05 PM
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a difficult-to-explain personal experience of an interaction between my gender identity, hormones, and aspects of my innate biology FWIW, I'm just after reading something that starts to explain how the above feels - It’s hard to describe, but everything just feels more natural now that my mind and body are no longer flooded with testosterone. It’s as though after 23 years, I have finally stopped trying to fill up a diesel car with unleaded gas. My brain was made to run on estrogen. That probably…
/r/MensRights12/05/11 04:33 PM
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Even if that was the case, you are assering that a woman's worth is determine with how attractice she is to males. Oh god no I'm not!!!!! Please don't think that!!!! I would appreciate that you show me what that baby is because I do not see it. At the moment unfortunately I'm seeing a very patriarchically biased presentation of the gender binary. I seem to be very very very bad at explaining what it is that I'm trying to convey, so I think I should stop, to be honest. And, what it is that I'm tr…
/r/MensRights12/05/11 04:15 PM
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The male-assigned quality of strength has existed for a long, long, long time - it has existed since physical strength was, actually, a useful quality in a leader. It got translated into "men are better leaders" which, as you say, is wrong. As for the need to express beauty. Many women have tremendous power over many men when it comes to expressing beauty - a power that is bestowed on us by the effects of testosterone on men and estrogen on us. Speaking for myself, I have internalised the messag…
/r/MensRights12/05/11 09:45 AM
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I disagree strongly here. That women are driven to express beauty while men are driven to express strength is absolutely part of the socially constructed gender norms and expectations. I didn't say anything about expectations. I talked about experience. There is nothing innate about it. Testosterone generates an innate experience of strength that people without testosterone don't have. Hence anything involving strength is going to have a different meaning, and a different quality, to a man than …
/r/MensRights12/05/11 09:18 AM
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How can shoe addiction or liking frilly things be an innate thing? Womanhood yes, your brain is wired one way or another, but these things are not only culturally-specific but they didn't even exist for most of our species' existence. The thing that is innate is a need to express a particular form of beauty, the thing that has since been invented to help that innate need is the shoe. For a lot of men, the thing that is innate is the need to express strength and power, and the thing that has sinc…
/r/MensRights11/05/11 01:42 PM
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Accepted. Thank you. These are the socialy constructed gender expressions that we fight against so much. Yes and no. There is a social construct part to gender, but there is also an innate part. And, certainly for me, shoe addiction (for instance) only arose in me after I got in touch with my innate gender, and feels very much like a part of that innate gender. That doesn't mean that shoe addiction is a part of everyone's innate gender - shoe addiction could easily be coming from somewhere else …
/r/MensRights11/05/11 10:26 AM
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Indeed I do. I said it for two reasons - first, it's true, and second, on some level, it kinda rules me out as a man (though then again on some level it doesn't, but I think you know where I am coming from...). Not all women - trans or otherwise - share those traits, and I fully recognise that.
/r/MensRights11/05/11 09:56 AM
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May I have another shot? I'm not a mind reader. If someone's personal sexual preference dictates that his partner be not just a woman, but an anatomically correct, biological woman, female since birth, you believe that the 'woman' part is all that matters. You believe that since the "since birth" factor should be irrelevant in a perfect society, you have a right to dismiss this factor of his sexual preference. No. But neither do you have the right to selectively implement those requirements, and…
/r/MensRights10/05/11 04:29 PM
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If someone's personal sexual preference dictates that his partner be not just a woman, but an anatomically correct, biological woman, female since birth, you believe that the 'woman' part is all that matters. You believe that since the "since birth" factor should be irrelevant in a perfect society, you have a right to dismiss this factor of his sexual preference. I think that the "anatomically correct, biological woman, female since birth" requirements (of which I satisfy all but the first) says…
/r/MensRights10/05/11 03:42 PM
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My sympathy has run out. You had sympathy?! Are you even capable of honesty? Or of understanding what words like "sympathy" actually mean?
/r/MensRights10/05/11 03:20 PM
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GID is hardly validated by science. I've been diagnosed by a psychiatrist, a psychologist and a counsellor. A respected endochrinologist is prescribing me hormones. The lawmakers in my country are drafting up gender recognition legislation. I think you should talk to my psychiatrist, my psychologist and my counsellor, and set them straight.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 03:19 PM
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Again, we are back to you seeking my validation of your view of yourself. You are perfectly within your rights to see me as whatever sicko fscked up person you want to see me as - just don't expect me to agree, or to support you, or to have anything to do with you. And if you see disagreement as hate, no wonder you are so miserable. Who said I was miserable?! I'm happier than I've ever been before in my life! So if I were to say to you "you believe you are a man, but I don't accept that - I thin…
/r/MensRights10/05/11 02:30 PM
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Just as an addendum - not only must you see me as a sick, sick, sick man, you must also see me as a very powerful man, as I've somehow managed to convince psychiatrists, psychologists, endochrinologists and lawmakers of the truth of my situation. I've even managed to convince science to lie for me!!! That takes an awful lot of power. Yes, I am powerful (though for other reasons), and you are right to fear me. You can avoid my wrath by starting to respect me.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 12:46 PM
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I thought I was OK with transsexuals, but according to the discussions I have had with transsexuals recently I am a hateful bigot if I don't want to have sex with a transsexual. Nope - you are a hateful bigot because you don't accept the realities of the lives of trans people. As you've admitted above, you don't see me as a woman at all. You see me as a very very very sick man indeed. That is hateful. Of course, it's just occurred to me that not only do you see me as a sick man, you must also se…
/r/MensRights10/05/11 12:41 PM
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You need to learn how to be OK with yourself. Actually, it is you that needs to learn to be OK with me. EDIT - I am actually very OK with me indeed - thanks for asking! Thanks.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 11:48 AM
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That's what I wanted to hear from you - thanks. As I said above, if you ever see me in public, please make it known to me that you consider me male - I need to know that that is what you think of me, as I need to avoid you like the plague, for pretty damn obvious reasons. Because not only do you consider me male, you must also consider me to be a very very very sick male indeed.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 11:47 AM
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You are not women I'll even identify you as a woman What gives? What gives is that you don't believe I am a woman at all. You don't believe the science, and you certainly don't believe me. You have no respect for me as a woman - you don't even have respect for me as a man. So here's the deal. Given that you have slightly more respect for me as a man, you may not call me ma'am, and you may not use female names to identify me. I need to be able to spot people like you when I'm out and about, which…
/r/MensRights10/05/11 08:34 AM
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Funny.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 11:21 PM
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Trans women still have all their male DNA. There are also women who were born with vaginas, who later develop the capacity to give birth to children, and who have male DNA. They still have male chromosomes. There are also women who were born with vaginas, who later develop the capacity to give birth to children, and who have male chromosomes. They do not have ovaries, uterus, or any female reproductive organs. Neither do women who have had hysterectomies. Fully transgendered people do not have v…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 09:41 PM
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Yeah, we've established that it is deceit and that you and the others arguing your position are selfish liars. Yeah, we've established that it isn't deceit, and that you and the others arguing your position are ignornat bigots. Two can play the game of 12-year-olds calling each other names in the school yard.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:01 PM
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I'm asking you why you are still claiming it is (in the ideal society) deceitful in spite of the fact that the reasons why it isn't deceitful have been done to death.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 07:59 PM
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Well no, it doesn't. At all. Because such a right does not exist. You don't have a right to be loved? You don't have the right to defend your good name against ignorance about your true nature when the consequences of that ignorance is that no woman would ever consider touching you? Wow!
/r/MensRights09/05/11 07:56 PM
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"People are distrustful of trans people, so it is okay to deceive them by claiming people are distrustful of or bigoted to trans people" You are still using this "not disclosing trans status is deceit" idea. Now, that idea has been dealt with. The fact that we are still talking about it is, to me, evidence that you do not respect what I say or do or write, in which case there is no point in me continuing. So do you want to address why you are still falling back on this "deceit" idea?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 07:54 PM
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There are many trans people who would willingly lie by omission. There are many cis people whose misguided beliefs on what transgenderism means is interpreted by those cispeople as lying by omission. There are many trans people who would actually openly lie when directly asked if they "used to be a man". There are many cis people who don't understand what the phrase "used to be a man" means to a trans person. There are many trans people who seem to think other's feelings don't matter. There are …
/r/MensRights09/05/11 07:32 PM
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No one is asking you to publicly state you are transgender. Only that it is not ok to enter a relationship or have sex with someone without telling that specific person you are trans. That is what I was talking about. Any time anyone expresses an interest in me, I am obliged to show them the "badge on my arm" (not a literal badge) which says that I am transgender. So, telling someone you are transgender before entering a relationship or having sex with someone violates your right as a human bein…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 07:22 PM
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And this is why this is a mens rights issue. Men have fallen in love with trans women, not known that they were trans, the women later decided (possibly incorrectly) that the man was transphobic, she left, and he was left with a broken heart not understanding why this woman left him. Regardless of whether she was right or wrong in her belief that he is transphobic, she has the right, the responsibility, to protect herself. She also has the right to have people fall in love with her, and to respo…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:53 PM
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I don't think the why matters. It matters because my right to love matters. Doesn't it? Or is it that other people's right to be uneducated is more important than my right to love? And I am required to sacrifice my right to love so that others can remain uneducated about the true nature of transgenderism?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:43 PM
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I don't think the why matters. So other people's right to be uneducated is more important than my right to love? And I am required to sacrifice my right to love so that others can remain uneducated about the true nature of transgenderism?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:42 PM
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My personal reasons for wanting disclosure are entirely based on wanting to know a person I'm confident that those motivations would be evident to anyone who has the good fortune to be involved with you, and speaking for myself, I would respond in kind. It's stupid and silly, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to think that way. Agreed. But it is also stupid and silly for me to be expected to respond to that stupidity and silliness by announcing to all and sundry that I've had a mas…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:39 PM
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We are simply asking you to NOT deceive other people into thinking you are not transgender when pursuing sex / a relationship with them So I must wear a neon sign? Maybe a badge on my arm? If you disagree, that means that you feel your right to a relationship / sex with someone is more important than their right to not be deceived. Nope - I believe my right to be treated as a human being is more important than their right to prejudice.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:20 PM
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If someone's decision on whether to be with you would be altered by a piece of information, and you knowingly withhold that information in order to be with that person, then that is deceitful and dishonest. I'm asking you to respect that others have the right to hold those beliefs. So I am responsible for knowing what others believe and want, and I am responsible for supporting them in their beliefs (which are likely to be based on inaccurate information), even to the detriment to not only my ha…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:17 PM
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Wow. You are really good at 12-year-old schoolboy name-calling. Good job.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:12 PM
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Did I give the impression that I meant you should disclose immediately? Like, pre-first date? If I did, I'm truly sorry, that's not what I meant. Sometimes I assume I've mentioned something in a discussion, when I'm remembering having mentioned it in a different, previous discussion, or something like that. It could be me - I've had so many people say the same damn thing to me over and over again that I could have lost track! As long as the disclosure comes before the actual sex, I'm not opposed…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:10 PM
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Actually, a clitoris is also a penis, just one that developed in a different way.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:06 PM
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"I have the right to deceive others into thinking I am not trans, because I like it and it makes me happy." You are avoiding answering my question - not that I'm surprised. Nope, deception doesn't make me happy. Now, are you going to answer my question? On what altar am I sacrificing my happiness? What need is greater than my need for happiness?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:05 PM
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Actually, a clitoris is also a penis, just one that developed in a different way.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:04 PM
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I'd like to add something into the mix, and it is about timing. Here is something that you and I can agree on when it comes to the consequences of loving a trans person - it is socially very risky. There are potentially very bad social consequences for you if you love me. I wish it weren't so, for obvious reasons. Anyway, the good news is that I have tons of experience in dealing with those social issues. I can help you deal with them too. And, of course, I am highly motivated to help you! But y…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 05:01 PM
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I don't see how you're sacrificing your happiness when you've already said that you wouldn't be happy with someone who's transphobic. I'm not talking about transphobic people - I'm talking about people who would reject me if I were to disclose before laying out the groundwork that would make disclosure easier for them to take. Which is what you seem to be advocating.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 04:26 PM
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OK - I finally see where you are coming from! If you look, you will see that that particular comment was directed at aetheralloy.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 04:24 PM
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It matters because you have a penis Actually, I don't. Start again.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 04:20 PM
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I realize that it's harder for you to find a potential partner this way Here's what is actually going on here. You are asking me to sacrifice my happiness (by prioritising disclosure above things that would make disclosure easier to take) in order to support something. I think I am due to know exactly what that something is. If I am to sacrifice my happiness, then I think I am entitled to know exactly what it is that I am sacrificing my happiness for. "Because it makes me feel uncomfortable" isn…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 03:38 PM
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Why do you strongly suspect that all of the people in this place consider you the enemy? Why do you strongly suspect that I strongly suspect that all of the people in this place consider me the enemy, when I've now said twice that I don't? My post above was directed at those who consider me to be their enemy, for whatever reason. No - I believe that most men are mature enough to be able to love a transgender person regardless of their history. Most of the people responding to my post above are s…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 03:33 PM
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You're entitled to a relationship, of course, but it's not right to enter into a relationship with someone that's based on deceit and dishonesty. And what yardstick should I use when determining if something is deceitful and dishonest? Prejudice? Popular opinion? Misinformation? Religious instruction? Hate? Or should I use things like science, logic, compassion and love? What you are asking me to do, in effect, is to support and uphold incorrect, and even dangerous beliefs, and you are even aski…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 03:23 PM
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So why do you consider this place, and all in it, your enemy? I don't. See my response to aetheralloy above. Do you want me to consider you to be my enemy?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 03:17 PM
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You were the one who brought numbers into it - don't blame me if you can't handle the consequences of your observation.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 02:49 PM
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Unfortunately, that's exactly what I mean. The entire bases of freedom of speech and equality is that other people have the right to say things like that. You don't have to respect the person or their beliefs, but you have to respect their right to hold those beliefs. Disgusting and idiotic as they may be. Of course, once it moves beyond stating a viewpoint and into physical violence, discrimination or harassment, that's when people need to step in. And how is it not discrimination when it means…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 02:31 PM
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The first thing you will need is an open mind. That is the first thing I have to see if you have. If I see that you don't have it, then it's game over. Guess what the second thing you will need is? To trust me. And the third? To love me. You will likely need to love me.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 02:28 PM
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One in 22,000 means that in a city of one million, there are 45 people who want to kill me, and in the world as a whole, there is an army of 300,000 amassed against me. And those are just the ones that are stupid enough to publically express their opinion.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 02:24 PM
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What I do think is that you're using emotional hysteria and your minority status to try and bully people out of addressing issues you're not comfortable with. Funny. What I think you're doing is using your majority status to try to bully me into making me responsible for issues that you are not comfortable with. I'm comfortable with my gender - you are not. Emotional hysteria? Ever hear of Chrissy Polis? She is the most recent example of why I am so scared - one in a long long long line of examp…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 01:44 PM
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I have faith that men are intelligent enough to understand the multiple catch-22's of my situation, and to understand the difficult choices I have to make to simultaneously keep myself safe while being as respectful as possible towards them.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 01:34 PM
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There are lots of different aspects of gender. There is no doubt that there is a societal aspect to it - it is quite interesting how society reacts to me in a different way now that I'm presenting as female. Some of it is good, some of it not so good. From a societal point of view, I'd rather have been born male, to be honest. However, there is also undoubtedly a biological component to it. Biologically, I have a female brain, as I explained above. That female brain gives me an inner, shall we s…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 01:31 PM
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However, if the number of women who would refuse to sleep with a guy who leaves the toilet seat up is a tiny minority, then no, I have no reasonable duty to disclose that. May I postulate something? I think we can agree that the levels of ignorance about transgenderism is pretty damn high. May I postulate that the primary reason why the vast majority of men have a problem with me is due to ignorance? If so, then the first thing I need to do is to educate - otherwise, I am letting love be killed …
/r/MensRights09/05/11 01:14 PM
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All I'm saying is that transwomen don't get to pretend they don't know they can't have kids. Your opinion of me continues to stagger me! My gawd - you think I am pretending that I can have kids! You actually think that! Oh. My. Gawd. To be honest, that says far far far more about you than it says about me. Cool - I was born female, so there is no problem! Oh - wait - yes, there is. To men, it's all about what's between the legs - what's between a woman's ears is pretty irrelevant. I think this i…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:58 PM
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But the only time this would come into play in the real world is if you let a guy stick his penis in you and then you say, "oh by the way, I was born with a penis too! Surprise!" Oh. My. Gawd. Do you read the newspapers? Trans people are constantly being attacted for existing, let alone having sex! Chrissy Polis - look her up - she was beaten into a siezure by two women in McDonalds because she is transgender. And that is just the most recent well-publicised example. No - the victimhood is real,…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:41 PM
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1) men should have the right to live as women if they choose. Men should also read the introduction to the phenomenon of transgenderism, in which it is made clear that transgender women do not choose to be female. For some reason (basically, it comes down to selfishness) trans women believe it's okay to withhold that information from men they want to have sex with. Nope - it boils down to the safety of trans women, and also to the need to give love a chance to flourish in the face of the ignoran…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:10 PM
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To someone who would view you as a man parading as a woman, every difference. Tell me about it!!! So every sterile woman should go around with a neon sign saying "I can't have children"? There is more to being a woman than being a breeder. No. But to act surprised that you cannot have kids clearly isn't acceptable. So you believe I am incapable of understanding that breeding is important to a lot of people?! Of course it is - but there is more to being a woman than being a breeder, and just beca…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 11:48 AM
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My desire to make an informed decision about having sex with you does not mean that I am not treating you as a "born woman." What information are you looking for to help you make that "informed" decision. Oh - yes - that's it - the information you are looking for is information which you interpret as meaning that I was not a born woman. So, yes, your desire to make an informed decision about having sex with me has everything to do with you not treating me as a born woman. If I pick up a muslim g…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 11:33 AM
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Before you read this, you should know that I thought you were suggesting that I immediately point out to someone that I am trans as soon as I meet them. I'm glad to see that you agree that would be stupid. However, I'm not going to edit my initial responses, as I want others who read this to properly understand why it is so stupid. "Sexual partners have no right to know you're trans because you're a woman, science says so." is basically your argument.. That is not why sexual partners have no aut…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 11:16 AM
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The MRM should be buying you drinks, even if they don't want to get into your pants. So the MRM should buy me drinks, but still shouldn't treat me as a born woman, even though it serves your needs that I was born a woman.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 09:55 AM
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Why are all my responses being downvoted without even being responded to?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:54 AM
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many men would never be intimate with a transgendered person. Why? The only working answer I can come up with to that question is "because they don't understand transgenderism". They see me as male. That is incorrect.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:46 AM
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You have NO right to shove your belief, however correct they are, at others. So that's it then. I have no right to tell anyone that I'm female. It's is as much their right to be wrong as it is your to be right and happy. Given that supporting those choices is an either-or proposition for me, which do you think I should support? be more considerate of other people's beliefs Without giving my beliefs a chance of being considered?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:44 AM
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Lie (or refuse to disclose) to a man about your previous gender I believe men are capable of understanding the science of gender to the extent of being able to see through that.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:41 AM
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If you seriously think that I must hate anyone I don't want to have sex with, then I am insulted. If you seriously think that I see you as my enemy because you don't want to have sex with me, then I am insulted. That is not why we are enemies. You believe that you have been a woman all along. That's fine. I might not share this view. And since this is a semantic argument, and hence a subjective one, neither is going to convince the other. It is not a semantic argument - it is a scientific one. H…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:38 AM
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How do you respond to assertion that sex is a genetic characteristic as opposed to be being based on hormones or morphology? It is all of the above. And those aspects of gender aren't always in alignment. Also: do you have a reference for the XY women giving birth to XY daughters? Here is a Report of Fertility in a Woman with a Predominantly 46,XY Karyotype
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:35 AM
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Did you write that post because you want to be our enemy or because you assume we are your's? Is that a rhetorical question? Did you read the introduction above, where the moderator said that a post was removed because it advocated the killing of transgender people? Oh - maybe you think that transgender people are all stupid, who are just looking for enemies. No, I don't want you to be my enemy, but I strongly suspect you are. Sheesh!
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:33 AM
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And if that's not something you can share with a potential partner (as opposed to a one-night-stand scenario), then that relationship is not going to work. I was addressing the one-night stand scenario. Obviously a long-term relationship is a completely different thing. Yes you are right - if I cannot tell someone I'm in a long-term relationship with, then I need to start asking myself some hard questions. Why am I not able to tell them? Is it because I don't trust them? Is it because I fear the…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:30 AM
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I don't understand why you don't think you owe it to that person to explain you were born male. Why would your partner need to know that? (1) why would you want to hook up with someone who hates who you are? Is that a rhetorical question? Obviously I don't. Obviously I need to find out as quickly as possible if they hate me. However, to straight out ask them would be so incredibly stupid, as the answer is likely to come in the form of a fist in the face. (2) you cannot have children which might …
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:16 AM
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I however feel that while informing your sex partners about your situation before the encounter may be hard, if you do not, you are placing your sexual partner in a position that may be the worst day of their lives when they find out. Trust me, it would be an even worse day for me. So obviously I want to avoid that. Here's the problem. I truly don't understand why it would be a bad day for him. Is it because he is incapable of understanding gender, incapable of seeing me as female in spite of wh…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:07 AM
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How do you feel about the idea that gender is a social construct It is also a social construct. There are differenct aspects to gender - the genetic, the biological (which contains two major components - the genitals and the brain - which are mismatched in me), the social etc. The social aspect of gender is just one aspect. and that you like pink frilly things and shoes because you were raised to? Eh? I wasn't raised to like pink frilly things - I had a typical male upbringing!!! How did your fr…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 07:58 AM
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This might be a good place to introduce you to your enemy. I am a transgender woman. I've been on hormone treatment for 18 months. And I think it's about time that we were properly introduced. Though I don't exactly expect a warm, or even respectful, welcome. First of all, I do not want to be a woman. Yes - you read that right - I do not want to be a woman. This is the hardest damn thing I've ever had to deal with. I no more choose my gender than you choose yours. I don't do this for sexual kick…
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:29 AM
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not to how things are. Great. So we can agree that your statement The rest are going to be on a range between 'uncomfortable secret' to 'violent vomiting and revenge slaying'. isn't true. That is what people think of men. It is not how men are. And, frankly, if I were a man, I would be outraged by that statement.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:57 PM
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At the very top of this - I may or may not want to be intimate with a transgender person. If you don't mind being with transgender people, then why should we disclose ourselves to you? I mean, there are so many more interesting things about us. And I'm sure there are plenty of things that you may or may not want in an expression of intimacy. Why should having a transgender history be one that is singled out for special attention?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:54 PM
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I have all of media and popular culture to back me up. And I have all of media and popular culture backing me up when I say that men are sexual buffoons who have the emotional intelligence of a 2-year-old and who are completely, utterly and totally focussed on just one thing. So it must be right. All men must be just like that. I have to say I never thought I'd hear a mens rights activist defending what popular culture and the media say.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:40 PM
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Why do my sexual preferences matter? So if it isn't sexual preferences that makes you dislike being with transgender people, then what is it?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:36 PM
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You know nothing about my sexual preferences. EXACTLY! Good grief - on the one hand, you acknowledge that I don't know your sexual preferences, and on the other, I'm a really really bad person if I don't correctly guess what your sexual preferences are!
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:08 PM
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No, if they don't deceive people into sleeping with them. I've been trying to get my head around this "deception" thing, and what the problem is. Is it that if you sleep with me, as far as you are concerned, you've slept with a man? Well, you will receive no support from me for that point of view. I am not a man. If you decide that I am, then that is your choice (a choice that I don't see that often), and if your choice causes you distress then it is your problem, not mine. Stop making me respon…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:05 PM
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To have as a sexual partner? You're daft. Eh? I'm daft to think that men are incapable of not seeing me as a fetish?!
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:51 PM
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Alright, and how many people (man or woman) ask the other person if they are a creep? Zero, for obvious reason First of all everyone first of all tries to find out if their partner is a creep, for obvious reasons. You would be stupid not to. Granted there isn't much point in asking, but you still try and find out. Second, regarding the initial issue, we aren't talking about creeps, we are talking about sexual preferences. Aren't we?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:50 PM
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You're a fetish. True, but I'm also a person. And I stand by my statement that most men aren't that shallow.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:29 PM
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LOL, so that means it never happens right? Of course it does. This is why every woman needs to sound out the men she might sleep with to see if he is a creep. If you want me to tell you if I'm transgender, then I think you should tell me if you are a creep.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:15 PM
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And I'm calling bullshit that you make your partners responsible for knowing your likes and dislikes. And I'm also calling bullshit that most men are that shallow about their sexual partners. If you want all your partners to be XX, then guess what - you are going to have to get all your partners to start doing blood tests, because there have been cases of XY women who were born with vaginas who later gave birth to XY daughters.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:13 PM
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Bullshit. You know damn well the vast majority of men wish to avoid transgenders. Let's look at that, shall we? Why would you wish to avoid a transgendered person? Because a transgender woman has XY chromosomes? Guess what - there are people born XY who have female genitalia and who have given birth to XY daughters. Nope - the "vast majority" of men are not that shallow when it comes to their partners.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:03 PM
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Sorry, you are just being selfish. You are the one making me responsible for your likes and dislikes, and for knowing what your personal likes and dislikes are in the face of the men who are specifically seeking me out and in the face of the men in my life who accept me as a woman.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 09:56 PM
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It won't happen - believe me! Women get pretty good at spotting creeps who believe it is OK to molest someone who is unconscious.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 09:38 PM
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For me, it's actually a reason to keep it from them.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 09:26 PM
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No difference at all. I'll have explained to you that I don't like being molested when I'm unconscious (or I'll at least have sounded you out for a belief that you believe it is OK), just as I'll expect you to explain to me your dislikes.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 09:22 PM
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the fact is it does matter to most people Your source for this? Seriously - you would not believe how often I have to deal with men who have a specific interest in transgender women.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 09:16 PM
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Believe me - I'll have sounded you out for a belief that you believe it is OK to molest someone who is unconscious before I go anywhere near you. Thanks for the heads-up.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 09:06 PM
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But why does it matter? That is what I genuinely do not understand. Because I have XY genes? Because I have experience being identified as male? Because I've had surgery? Or because I've crossed gender lines, and should be punished? It is so completely arbitrary - you've met me, you've fallen for my personality, yet ... ?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:55 PM
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Eh - how could you bone a pre-op trans woman, and not know? Do your eyes not work?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:47 PM
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The issue here is being deceptive when you know it does matter. And how am I supposed to know that it does matter? As I said, your discomfort is far far far from universal. I am not a mind reader.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:45 PM
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What other things should people disclose to you before having sex with you? I mean, not all men have a problem with trans women (there are many many men who specifically seek out trans women), there are a whole bunch of potential incompatibilities between people. No - as with every thing in relationships, the responsibility is with you to communicate what you don't want, and not with the other person to try and guess and anticipate every possibility.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:34 PM
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It is still a lie by omission. Hang on a sec. There are a huge number of potential incompatibilities between people. Do you sit down with potential partners before having sex with them and go through every possibility? The fact of the matter is that there are men who specifically seek out trans women - your discomfort isn't universal amongst men.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:20 PM
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So what is it - is it rape when you trick a woman into sex by saying you'll marry her, or isn't it? How is it that you are allowed to withhold information, and indeed outright lie, in order to have sex, but others aren't?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:06 PM
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I take it that you don't want to be intimate with anyone who is XY. Well, there are people who have vaginas, and the ability to reproduce, who are XY. It's called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. So it seems to me that if your definition of a man is someone who is XY, you need to ask all the women you are with to have a blood test. Or is it something else that distrubs you about trans women? The fact that they have had surgery? Then you need to ask all the women you are with about all their surg…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:05 PM
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First - human sexuality is incredibly diverse. Trans women will tell you that there are huge numbers of men who have a specific sexual interest in trans women. So, the only way for one of us to be sure that you aren't one of them is for you to tell us before sex. Also, you need to be clear about what it is that you don't want. Is it that you don't want to have sex with someone who is XY? In spite of the fact that there are women (i.e. people born with female genitalia and the ability to have chi…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 07:36 PM
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