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I kinda feel this tbh my greatest fears with approaching actually came true & yet it wasn’t that bad. I had a girl outside the club as everything was closing literally tell me to fuck off super loud & ppl nearby were looking. A couple seconds later everyone went on with their lives & I walked away like nothing happened, it made me realize even the worst case scenario isn’t the end of the world. I’m glad I at least tried
/r/seduction23/04/22 02:37 PM
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I don't disagree with you, I'm not trying to say that everything is fair between men and women in dating. It's more accurate to say there a pros and cons to both sides. I can even admit that overall women honestly have it better than men, but I don't think they have it good. I think it's unfair that TRP often acts like all women have it good when if you talk to women about their experiences this is more often than not false. ​ TRP makes it seem like as a woman you just open up our phone and pick…
/r/ExRedPill05/01/22 07:14 AM
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"that women have “inherent” value while a young man dosent have any value unless he’s old and rich. " Women don't have "inherent value". Do you think rappers and actors are inviting just ANY woman backstage? Do you think every woman gets to be prom queen? Do you think ALL women that stream on Twitch have tons of views? Do you not have normal looking female friends, cousins, aunts, coworkers, or classmates who are just normal women that work normal jobs and date average men? Ugly, fat, & old wome…
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 10:17 AM
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Because feminism turned from equal rights for all to “God is a woman, kill all men” I know most feminists don’t literally mean KAM, but regardless the ideology now is that men need to do better, but women can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:25 PM
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I know I’m right. If you raise a son he’s never getting laid. You think a short fat balding loser can just go to therapy and that’s gonna get him laid? No
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:34 PM
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This giant load of feel good horse shit you wrote isn’t getting anyone’s dick wet, but it definitely sounds cute and fluffy, so people will upvote it. None of this matters, if you want women you have to gain looks or status and don’t be needy. Internal love and therapy doesn’t make women at the bar want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:00 AM
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I get what you're saying and you're right to a degree. I think PUA does tend to have a bunch of overcomplicated nonsense and at the end of the day you can just be yourself and put yourself out there until someone likes you. On the flip side though, If you're a man and you're looking to get laid. There are definitely some solid tactics and pointers that actually do work in a club scenario that simply "being yourself" doesn't quit touch on.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 09:59 PM
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This is stupid logic, then why don’t we all just never have sex or get into relationships?
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 05:49 PM
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You're probably being too nice and sweet. Most women ages 18 - 30 that you'll meet are attracted to guys that don't want them. If you message a girl "Hey beautiful, it was great to meet you :) Would you like to go out for coffee sometime!? haha" She's going to gag and leave you on read. As someone explained it to me, you have to be the most proactive, but you have to care the least. Women love emotionally unavailable men, assholes, jerks, players, whatever you wanna call it. Don't use emoji's, d…
/r/seduction29/09/20 03:47 PM
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Facts
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:52 PM
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I think AMS has amazing content about how to keep an alpha mentality, but I don't think AMS is good at going out and pulling women from a bar or pulling women from tinder/bumble. I highly recommend The Engineered Lifestyle for that, those dudes also show their results on their channel, so you know they actually pull.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:08 PM
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I used to watch RSD videos years ago before they took them down and went down the mainstream self help route. I owe a lot to RSD, but honestly while I feel like RSD had really good inner-game concepts. I noticed very early in my own game and a lot of their students games that RSD tended to turn men into the weird overcompensating dancing monkey types. The way Tyler teaches pickup is kinda weird, probably because he's weird. Clearly it works for him, but I found that being more grounded and chill…
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:06 PM
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Basically, he caught the fish and now it's time to throw it back in the ocean and go catch another one.
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:59 PM
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long hair, full lips, and dressed well.
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:56 PM
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Okay lol well if she’s really into you then just text her whatever you want and schedule a time to meet. Curious to see how it goes, good luck man
/r/seduction18/09/20 08:52 PM
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I would send her a text explaining the situation, but just make it funny. She’ll probably find it funny too.
/r/seduction18/09/20 08:48 PM
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Don’t send her that text. It could work if she’s really into you, but likely she’s out of party mode and moved on from you. A text like that out of the blue could be seen as creepy or needy. Call back humor is great, mention something to her that references an inside joke between you and then try to move things towards meeting again, so you aren’t just her texting buddy. Show interest, but give her some room to chase. Just bc you made out with her does not mean you have her bagged at all.
/r/seduction18/09/20 08:41 PM
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Same
/r/seduction22/08/20 01:41 PM
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Well, the world isn’t black and white. You can theoretically get a girl by doing all the wrong things, I’m just stating how it tends to work most of the time. You just have to not come off desperate. If a girl isn’t reciprocating you need to ghost her and move on. Don’t send double texts, don’t bring a girl you barely know flowers when she’s done nothing to earn it other than be pretty. Work on yourself, see yourself as a prize, and always be willing to walk away.
/r/seduction22/08/20 12:28 PM
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It's because being needy and overly nice sub-communicates to the girl that you don't get girls and that she is above you, women typically only date men that they perceive to be better than them or worth chasing. Think about it like this. Imagine you and your friends are playing pickup basketball at a park and you're not very good players, you're just playing for fun. A guy walks up to you guys after the game and says "Wow, you guys are incredible! The way you guys play is insane! If it's okay ca…
/r/seduction21/08/20 07:47 PM
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What in the fuck is this hot ass mess?
/r/seduction19/08/20 07:40 PM
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A big difference is making your intentions clear as soon as possible. If you interact with a girl platonically and then start flirting with her out of nowhere it’s probably going to creep her out, but if you establish that type of cocky/funny, fun, and flirty vibe when you first meet her then she’ll either get screened out (saying she has a bf or she’s not interested) or she will reciprocate. This saves you time anyway. Now as for how to flirt with a girl you just met. It depends on the situatio…
/r/seduction17/08/20 07:10 PM
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That can definitely work, but like OP said that approach puts pressure on the girl. "Hey, I think you're cute and I wanted to meet you" is basically saying "Hey, I like you and now I want you to make a decision on if you like me so we can move this forward." but she doesn't even know you well enough to make that decision, so it's just easier for her to say "I have a bf" to diffuse that tension you just threw onto her. There's a chance she might look past it if she thinks you're cute or something…
/r/seduction14/08/20 09:44 PM
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Finally a quality post on this sub, these are the kinds of posts I wanna see. Can we clean this shit up. I'm so tired of reading "How do I get my crush of 6 years to text me back?" and "Should I stand at a 45 degree angle when talking to girls?". The focus should be on improving yourself, being a better man, being a better person, being secure with yourself, and then putting yourself out there to add value to the world so that people want to be around you. Thanks for this post, this is what guys…
/r/seduction14/08/20 09:18 PM
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I disagree, If this worked for you I’m assuming you got the girl despite saying what you said and not because you said what you said. Trying to shoo away (or worse one up) another guy is a good way to communicate that you’re insecure and needy. You’re showing that you’re threatened by this man and that you care. If another guy comes in just ignore him. If the girl is into you, he will blow himself out. If by some miracle she ignores you and goes for him then that girl clearly wasn’t into you any…
/r/seduction14/08/20 07:54 AM
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The first few are the hardest then you build up a tolerance and experience. Eventually you hear the same shit and it doesn’t effect you and you have perfect responses to it. You have nothing to lose. If you get rejected then you’re building your tolerance/experience and if you don’t get rejected then you get the girl. Worst thing you can do is not approach because you remain a bitch and get no girls.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:49 AM
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You love to see it
/r/seduction05/08/20 04:53 PM
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You're focusing WAY too much on tiny things that don't really matter man. This question is coming from a bad frame. The frame you have is that you're worried about what the girls think of you and you're asking for the optimal way to position your hands to attract women. You need to change this mindset asap. The frame you need to have is that you are enough as you are. Not every woman is going to like you for a bunch of reasons and you need to accept that. Put your hands wherever you feel more co…
/r/seduction01/08/20 07:04 PM
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Yeah, I meant day game when I said cold approach
/r/seduction01/08/20 12:05 AM
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100% but it's good that you realized it as some guys would literally not understand what happened. Lesson learned for next time.
/r/seduction01/08/20 12:00 AM
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It’s an effective tool for getting over your fear of talking to women and practicing things like eye contact, humor, etc. while getting laid along the way. There are more effective methods for getting laid like night game and tinder.
/r/seduction31/07/20 07:47 PM
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I’m of the opinion that if you feel something in your gut then it’s probably valid. This isn’t 100% the case, but it’s likely. I think you should be direct, guys know if they like you. It’s 0 or 100 with us. He knows if he likes you or not as we speak, you just need to find out.
/r/seduction29/07/20 11:39 PM
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Not enough info. Does he show any signs of liking you? Does he have options or is he a shy nerd that doesn’t talk to girls?
/r/seduction29/07/20 11:30 PM
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Yeah, it's the same for me. I've noticed that whenever I don't think about women and don't look at them. Hot women just approach me and ask for my number without me having to do anything. The real secret to seduction is to just ignore and not want women. The moment you act like women don't exist is the exact moment that hot girls want you and you become a slayer. There's honestly no reason for this subreddit, PUA, or dating coaches to exist. It's all a scam and the only real advice is to this po…
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:39 PM
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It honestly sounds like you're not ready yet to me, but you should communicate this with the person you planned to lose it with. It's ultimately up to you if you want to lose it or not. It's just sex, it's supposed to be fun and enjoyable. Don't let movies and porn make you feel like it needs to be perfect because it's not perfect. If the person you're losing it to can't understand and empathize with your concerns to make sure you both have a good time then you'll know not to lose it with this f…
/r/seduction27/07/20 10:13 PM
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I'm not judging, I was just curious. Yeah man, I'd say just focus on getting your life together. Of course, not just for women but for yourself. Get your money up, get a car, get your own place, and keep self improving. While you do that focus on building a good tinder profile and try to make it work with what you've got. That's my recommendation to you, by the time you've got all your own shit plus the experience you'll gain from meeting and texting tinder girls, it should be stupid easy once y…
/r/seduction26/07/20 11:30 PM
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This is a horrible take lmao
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:36 AM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction26/07/20 01:48 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn't bring girls directly into your house. You're just going to have to get creative. You'll have to use your car, their place, or somewhere public where nobody can see you. Trust me, if you meet a girl and she wants to bang you she's not going to be opposed to it. Yeah, a lot of people view tinder as a self esteem killer because it's so hard to actually match with cute girls consistently let alone hold their attention for more than 3 messages, but if you can see it as a challenge an…
/r/seduction25/07/20 07:38 PM
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It's mostly just tinder, I have literally only had one girl even mention the virus or the lockdown while talking to them on dating apps. They don't care if you don't care and realistically any girl that actually cares just woudn't be on those apps in the first place.
/r/seduction25/07/20 07:34 PM
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There’s no set number of how often you contact a girl. It depends on the girls level of interest in you. If you try to play hard to get on a girl who has low to moderate interest in you or barely knows you, it will most likely backfire. Being scarce works effectively when the girl is already high interest and actually knows you. Like you’ve hung out together multiple times and she likes you.
/r/seduction25/07/20 03:30 PM
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I bought a tripod with a bluetooth remote shutter for like $16 on Amazon. I went out with my best outfits in my car and I’d put my phone on the tripod and snap pics of myself. Sure some people might look at you, but honestly if anything you look cool. It’s 2020 so ppl just think you’re an influencer or some shit. My matches have increased dramatically by taking a single day to snap like 3 high quality pics with an iphone lol
/r/seduction25/07/20 01:34 PM
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I understand your position. It’s important that you don’t do nothing at all because by the time quarantine is over and you move out you’ll still have to learn game and get over the fear of talking to girls. You can learn so much during this lockdown. You should do some things I’ll recommend later to get over these fears and also never rule out that you could get laid while you’re at it. First you gotta realize that number 1 women and men are going to want to fuck no matter what, so trust me. Peo…
/r/seduction25/07/20 04:22 AM
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Gonna repeat the others bc it really is the most important advice. Actually take action, get out of your house and just talk to girls. Pretty much nothing else will matter if you don’t put yourself out there. Don’t be afraid of rejection and take risks.
/r/seduction25/07/20 01:49 AM
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Yeah, guys will approach you for your looks and it can be scary at first to see if they genuinely care, but they’ll reveal that over time whether they intend to reveal it or not if you pay attention to how they treat you.
/r/seduction24/07/20 12:29 AM
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Well, that’s the thing, they can, but looks are what draw men in initially. Everything else is what keeps them. Men have different preferences and also I’d confidently argue that men find women more attractive on average than women find men. It is why they are called the fairer sex and it’s also why men on dating apps get far less matches than women do. Even an ugly woman is beautiful to a set of men. Not to be inappropriate, but there’s a reason pornhub has a billion categories including BBW fo…
/r/seduction23/07/20 05:55 AM
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Yeah man because no 5’6 guy on the planet ever had sex before. Yes, you can change your situation.
/r/seduction23/07/20 03:30 AM
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Idk what your point is anymore. Finding a soulmate is hard for anybody. We’re talking about getting girls in general
/r/seduction23/07/20 03:26 AM
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No you literally cannot. Maybe he hasn’t found his soulmate, but the guy you described will have literally no shortage of vagina in his life.
/r/seduction23/07/20 03:24 AM
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These are examples, you don’t have to be any of these things to just get a mediocre girlfriend. I’m talking about being able to get attractive women and an abundance of them at that. Don’t be an average guy and be expecting to get above average girls. If you want what every other man on the planet wants, you have to bring something to the table to stand out from the crowd. The more you think a girl is hot, more than likely so does everyone else. Meaning you’ve got competition. You can either ste…
/r/seduction23/07/20 03:18 AM
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So? The point is that women can be attracted to men for things other than their looks or age. Ppl act like money, wealth, and fame only get pussy at the top 10% level, but it doesn’t. Being wealthier than your peers, having more clout in your city, having enough money to at least have your own place are all attractive to women. This is why local band members can get pussy, club promoters get pussy, etc. It’s not like the top 10% of wealth, fame, and power get pussy and anything underneath that p…
/r/seduction23/07/20 02:39 AM
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early 30's aint shit dude, be thankful that you're a guy. Women have no issues hooking up with men of any age as long as you take care of yourself. Most of the Marvel movie actors are in their 40's, I've seen a 50 year old dude on tiktok that has 18 - 30 year olds throwing themselves at him in his comment section. I'm not saying you'll have the same access to women that they do, but being a man in his 30's is the furthest thing from an issue when it comes to dating. Get your shit together and ge…
/r/seduction23/07/20 12:49 AM
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Option 1) Tinder: Only works if you have good pictures and adhere to good ol rules 1 and 2. Rule number 1: Be attractive and Rule number 2: Don’t be unattractive. But in all seriousness, you don’t have to be genetically blessed to use tinder you just can’t be a poorly groomed fat slob in cargo shorts and a polo taking mirror selfies like most dudes are. If you can get in decent shape, buy stylish clothes, and then copy male models and celebs photos for inspiration, you can get attractive girls t…
/r/seduction22/07/20 11:25 PM
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I don't think there would be much future with her as she shared that with me I don't understand, why did she go on a date with you then? lol
/r/seduction22/07/20 11:15 PM
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Simp behavior is any behavior that showcases that you view a particular woman on a massive pedestal. Simp behavior is not liking a woman or complimenting a woman. The difference between a simp and someone who respects women is that simps put women on a gigantic pedestal. A simp double texts a girl "Why haven't you responded to my texts?" because it's been 2 hours and she hasn't texted back. A simp showers a girl he barely knows in praise that she did not earn because again he has her on a massiv…
/r/seduction22/07/20 06:12 PM
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Leo is def closer to an alpha male than a simp tho. I don’t see any girls flicking their bean to Napoleon Dynamite
/r/seduction22/07/20 02:00 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t say the Alpha shit is total bullshit, but I see your point. I think there are few women in this world that legitimately aren’t turned on by at least some type of alpha males.
/r/seduction22/07/20 01:05 PM
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Thanks man, I’ll read up on it tonight and give my thoughts
/r/seduction22/07/20 05:27 AM
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Hahaha maybe I am, I’ll have to check out that website. I got the instagram funnel idea partly from an old video RSD Tyler made right before RSD moved on to self development. He basically explained that his game in 2019 (or whatever year he said) was basically not even game anymore and that he’d just casually chat with girls and then exchange instagrams and they would basically just chase him after seeing his page.
/r/seduction22/07/20 05:14 AM
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I still don’t understand why you don’t introduce them to what you like
/r/seduction22/07/20 01:57 AM
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Lmao what position? Blaming other people that you can’t start a conversation with a Tinder match? You’re right, I can’t relate because I don’t need my matches to throw me a bone. You’re a conceited toolbag dude.
/r/seduction22/07/20 01:49 AM
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Literally everything you say just gets more douchey and less down to earth, but good luck dude
/r/seduction22/07/20 01:38 AM
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Because the post just comes off really pretentious and douchey. Sure, my response might be passive aggressive, but it is my legitimate answer to your issue. If these girls are boring and you're not boring since you have no issues hitting up interesting chicks then just bring the basic chicks into your world. Ask them "Do you listen to X?" "Have you been to Y?" or "Check out this Z". If they're basic, then I'm sure it'll add some spice to their life. Otherwise if they're that boring/basic then ju…
/r/seduction21/07/20 11:25 PM
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lol Yeah, see I don't think that's a simp. That's like the meme version of a simp where guys call each other a simp for being a decent human being which is hilarious. However, based on decades of field research by top scientists around the world and tons of data collected from women an actual simp will never cease to dry up every vagina he comes into contact with.
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:28 PM
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As a girl, I would say being a simp is really cute. Should probably elaborate on what you mean by a simp being cute because the term simp means different things to different people. Every girl is different, but in my experience and based on a slew of Tiktok trends, majority of girls don't like simps. By simp I mean guys who compliment women too much or treat them like a princess. Every other sentence he's talking about how stunning you are, I feel like this would only work if the girl is unattra…
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:21 PM
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If you're so interesting then why don't you talk to them about your interests or just don't talk to them at all?
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:01 PM
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The worst thing that can happen is that I'm ignored Exactly if this is too forward then I'll apologize in the end or is that just dumb Don't say something like that, I get that you're trying to convey empathy but it comes off as if you're not confident which is the worst thing you can be when it comes to women. You don't need to apologize, she put her IG in her bio for a reason and sliding in DM's is insanely common. If she's not interested she can ignore/block you, so you don't need to apologiz…
/r/seduction21/07/20 08:46 PM
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but I don’t know why they’re following if we’ve never even interacted Yes you do. Why else would a girl follow a (in your own words) pretty attractive guy? It's not rocket science dude, they probably like you. Should I dm the ones who are hot chicks? Yes, but there's a few ways you can go about this. You can either post your own IG photos or create a story and see who is watching your stories or liking your posts to A) Get a gauge for who likes you and B) They might shoot their shot at you by sw…
/r/seduction21/07/20 08:36 PM
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Proud of you bro, this made me happy af to read. Keep it up!
/r/seduction21/07/20 06:15 PM
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I'm so tired of this stupid philosophy that ignoring women and being on your purpose makes women magically appear out of thin air and blow you. It's bullshit, unless by working on your purpose you mean getting ripped, dressing stylish, or becoming a famous rapper that is not how the world works at all. How tf would a woman know that you're on your purpose when you're just in the grocery store. Can she smell that you just filed an LLC from the pheromones you're emitting that draws her in to sprea…
/r/seduction21/07/20 06:07 PM
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Never ask for nudes anyway, it's weird. Girls should want to send you nudes and if she does then it's not your fault.
/r/seduction21/07/20 04:58 PM
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Congrats man, I'm happy for you. Confidence is key, but there are many other factors that go into attraction/seduction that when paired with confidence make you even more unstoppable.
/r/seduction21/07/20 04:52 PM
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Yep same here man. I’ve been working on mine a lot too. Constantly saving photos I’m inspired by in my phone to kind of recreate for myself. Same with if I see an outfit or accessory I’d like to buy in the future, I save all that stuff on my phone in a folder so that I can grow my wardrobe and make a high value instagram as well as OLD profile. Very underrated strategy as opposed to just only cold approach. Cold approach isn’t bad, but it’s basically door to door sales while instagram/tinder (if…
/r/seduction20/07/20 09:15 PM
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This works better if you’re physically attractive, if you aren’t then you can expect a lot of flakey numbers and no dates. This is because you’re not giving her anything else to be attracted to except for your looks since you didn’t form any kind of emotional connection or gain any investment from the girl, so mileage will vary pretty much based on that. Also I agree with u/STD_Tyler that exchanging instagrams is 10x more ideal than numbers because with instagram she can see you at your best as …
/r/seduction20/07/20 08:56 PM
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Good job man, if you enjoyed yourself that’s a W
/r/seduction20/07/20 06:26 PM
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Is there like a special adult way of flirting that I’m not getting? Not really, if you ask me I think it's time you cut the attempts to get him to make a move and make it yourself. You're going to have a to make a more clear move at some point, I don't think there's anything you can say or do at this point to make him do something if he hasn't already. Guys know what they want very quickly, unlike women who can build and lose attraction at the drop of a hat. Guys are typically in a permanent min…
/r/seduction18/07/20 01:11 AM
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It's more important for guys to cum during sex than it is for women, but that doesn't at all mean it can't be good sex. Sometimes it's not the girls fault if a guy can't cum, so if he's telling you it isn't your fault then believe him. If he says it's your fault then leave him.
/r/seduction17/07/20 06:51 PM
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I'm afraid I'm killing the attraction factor this way. You're fucking up, never put all your eggs in one basket. You want this to work out so bad that you're putting this girl on a pedestal. This girl is not special, it's all in your head. You can't be afraid to lose her, you might lose her, so what? No game is played without the possibility of losing the game, you'll be fine. Invite her to hangout sometime preferably at your place, then make your move. If it doesn't work, you'll get over it. Th…
/r/seduction17/07/20 05:21 PM
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Yeah, I was the same way. You care what women think of you and you're afraid of rejection which is like rule numero uno for us men. You have to understand that everybody on the planet has people that don't like them. The most famous music artists, fashion brands, models, it doesn't matter. There will always be people that aren't into you. Sometimes I have the insecurity that my smile is not beautiful That's your perception, which in the grand scheme of things doesn't mean anything. It's not your…
/r/seduction17/07/20 04:41 PM
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Is this just a phase? Is it normal/irregular to think this? Yeah, I was the same way when I was your age. It changed when I got older. There's no timeline for how we all live our lives. Not all men are the same, do whatever makes you happy man.
/r/seduction17/07/20 04:33 PM
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I feel like the only difference between a good teasing and a teasing that gets you labeled a pervert is how good looking you are There's some truth to this, anyone who completely denies this is lying to you. Sometimes attractive people can get away with more, we all know this. but just like most things in life there's more to it than just that. I had a point where I experimented/practiced with teasing to see where the boundaries were. In my experience the more sexual your teasing is the higher t…
/r/seduction17/07/20 04:27 PM
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This right here, he preachin
/r/seduction17/07/20 04:19 PM
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will it put him off wanting to have sex with me again ? Probably not
/r/seduction17/07/20 04:17 PM
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Ah I see you’re a man of culture as well
/r/seduction17/07/20 01:43 AM
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, I ALMOST miss the chance to go talk to her but I manage the courage to sit down in front of her. Usually, I'd head upstairs out of aniexty. This is progress, I did the exact same shit before my first ever approach. Don't beat yourself up about it. You need to understand that women are attracted to confidence. Everyone says it, so you need to do your best to become confident. Whatever it takes to achieve that and next time don't even think about it just go say hi and let it be awkward if it's a…
/r/seduction16/07/20 10:46 PM
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That's awesome man, good for you
/r/seduction16/07/20 10:43 PM
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Maybe we think being ourselves isn't good enough. You just answered your own question lol
/r/seduction16/07/20 10:41 PM
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I guess I’m bad at picking up on social cues. I see people say this and I don't think most ppl are actually bad at picking up social cues. If you can't tell then he's probably not flirting or he likes you, but is afraid to flirt. Some people will claim they're "flirting" or "dropping hints" when they really aren't. Think of it like any other emotion, you can't always tell when someone is mad, sad, envious, happy etc, but sometimes you can. It depends on how much of that feeling they choose to sh…
/r/seduction16/07/20 08:00 PM
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literally nailed it
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:24 PM
2

Oh 100%, this is why I get so frustrated at the guys who are like "Hello there, I'm unattractive, out of shape, and have 0 confidence in myself. What are some techniques to pull instagram models, so I don't kill myself?" and it's just like *sigh* okay, on one hand like I said looks aren't everything, but we have to be realistic here. When you're barely even getting numbers and 0 dates after 225 approaches, something isn't right here. You can't convince me that's a game issue. No offense to OP if…
/r/seduction16/07/20 04:30 AM
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Yeah, I saw. I responded to it, that's awesome for him. He's on the right track then, I just felt this was an important conversation to have. I know that looks aren't everything, but they are definitely something and therefore it is a conversation that has to be had in order to make sure OP isn't just getting blown out 5 times a day for a year straight. I want him to get the best results possible, it's just some tough love because I want him to win.
/r/seduction16/07/20 04:13 AM
2

Awe this is such an innocent question lmao
/r/seduction16/07/20 02:33 AM
1

Np man
/r/seduction15/07/20 11:41 PM
2

I haven’t got my dick wet I’m almost 3 years, this is primarily due to my experience with mental health issues however now these past few months I’ve been feeling a lot better. Don't sweat it my g, let the past go. Anyway, tbh this situation isn't super ideal for trying to get laid because it's a higher male to female ratio and also these are mutual friends, so you can't really take risks like you would in a club where you'll never see the girls you talked to again or if you do they probably won…
/r/seduction15/07/20 10:59 PM
1

No <3
/r/seduction15/07/20 06:48 PM
5

It's extremely common for girls and guys in mutual friend groups to fuck eachother and a lot of relationships start out as friendships. It's not a fool proof method, but to deny that befriending girls can lead to sex with them or their friends really shows that you don't understand the game more than anything.
/r/seduction15/07/20 04:46 PM
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I'm glad to hear that you're trying to fix the things that you can control such as your physique, style, and haircut. As long as you're doing that then in my opinion, I see no issues with you continuing this approach challenge. If you truly don't care about results and you just want to do it your own way, then what's the point of anyone giving you feedback? Why even post about the interactions if you just want to be your authentic self until someone comes along? ​ There's nothing wrong with that…
/r/seduction15/07/20 04:37 PM
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Waiting for the people who told you to change your opener to see what advice they have this time. OP it might be time to improve those looks, my g. I’m the only one that’s apparently going to tell you the truth. I’ve been saying this since like day 41, but everyone just says it’s your game. Bro be honest, how do you look? Let’s hit the gym and up your style bc these blowouts are getting out of hand at this point.
/r/seduction15/07/20 02:35 PM
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He's basically saying that your emotions and thoughts aren't reality. They're how you perceive reality, but your perception isn't always right, so instead of worrying about if your posture looks awful, your voice sounds stupid, or if you should post that selfie because your smile is awkward, you should "just be"
/r/seduction15/07/20 07:16 AM
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*hits blunt*
/r/seduction15/07/20 07:14 AM
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Wait what? It's actually the total opposite. Not sure what post you read, but the tips for passing a shit test in red pill ideology is to exaggerate it or ignore it. That is the definition of not putting her on a pedestal. If she says a shit test like "I usually don't date short men" you either just exaggerate it by embracing the fact that you're short and joking about how short you are or you just blatantly ignore it and don't let it bother you. Putting her on a pedestal would mean saying somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:58 AM
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You're not supposed to have a full on conversation with Tinder matches. Get their number or snapchat within no more than 5 messages and then once you're texting/snapping you should be setting up the date from there. I open with something funny and flirty. You just need to catch their attention, it can be low key sexual if you want, but it can't be OVERTLY sexual obviously. Like you said, no "hi" no "hey" no "you're gorgeous *heart eyes emoji*". Don't be afraid to experiment, but I'm not giving y…
/r/seduction14/07/20 11:57 PM
2

Yeah, I've been focusing on learning it due to the pandemic and I've learned a lot. My online dating profile has changed so much since I first made it, it's such a humbling experience. Girls are way pickier and more ruthless on tinder because they don't have to be nice like in person, so your ego can learn to take a beating which is good. Learning how to text them to get them on a date without them losing interest is also hard because in person you have their undivided attention. On an app they …
/r/seduction14/07/20 11:20 PM
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I kinda see what you mean, but in your case if your goal is to be the best seducer. I'd think of it as another avenue of seduction. How can you be the best seducer with no knowledge of online dating and social media game? In fact, I'd argue that OLD has fiercer competition because the bar of entry is so low. Not every guy does day game or night game, but any guy can make an OLD profile. It takes strategy and effort to snatch the majority of girls from all the guys since it's mostly dudes, plus y…
/r/seduction14/07/20 11:01 PM
1

Are you asking for the number on every interaction?
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:16 PM
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Thank you, so tired of people having such a positive attitude about grinding approaches, but calling OLD a waste of time when it isn't if you're willing to tweak your profile constantly and keep trying new strategies. OLD is different from day game and night game for sure, but the mentality of constantly tweaking your game/profile to improve results is the same
/r/seduction14/07/20 09:51 PM
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You'd get better results on Tinder if you linked a solid IG, but you don't have to. It's good to have a solid IG because it helps out when you link it to other OLD apps and also you can slide in girls DM's and they'll likely actually respond after checking out your profile.
/r/seduction14/07/20 09:50 PM
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He's actually pretty good looking. Definitely in the higher tier of attractiveness. I know his looks aren't like traditional model good looks, but he's got a good jawline, good smile, tattoos, well dressed, dyed hair, he's tall, and he's famous (He still would be attractive even if he wasn't) A lot of girls like tall skinny white boys with tats that look like they survive on cigarettes and hot cheetos. I spent more time than I wanted to admit looking into what women find attractive and it also h…
/r/seduction14/07/20 05:08 PM
1

He don't miss
/r/seduction14/07/20 04:49 PM
2

You have to learn how to read the situation and read her signs. You don't just want to go up to a random girl and kiss her, right? The situation doesn't make sense and there are no signs. ​ I have two recommendations for solving this "I don't know if I'm allowed to make this move or not" mentality ​ 1) You need to use all available information to dictate what's appropriate. ​ One example of some "information" would be the context of the date or meeting. If I'm flirting with a girl on tinder and …
/r/seduction14/07/20 12:25 AM
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100% agree with all points here
/r/seduction13/07/20 09:56 PM
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What did you take from this report? I personally thought OP came across very unnatural, almost like a robot, as if he’s just roaming the streets all day looking for pretty women. I miss some personality and character. Intrigued to know your opinion, let me know I've been following OP's field reports since the very first one he made, almost every single one has been the exact same. His positive attitude, willingness to learn, and tenacity are really something, but I agree with what you said. He s…
/r/seduction13/07/20 09:37 PM
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Just because I brought it up, doesn’t mean I think that’s all that matters. Game and looks both matter, if you look like garbage (no offense to OP) then it’s going to be harder. Ignoring looks is naive. It’s more efficient to work on yourself and your game simultaneously, which is what this sub promotes. Nobody is asking OP how he looks, but I think this is important, so I did ask him via PM. I asked him because he is getting blown out consistently after approaching 225 women, something isn’t ri…
/r/seduction13/07/20 08:34 PM
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That’s a giant leap from what I’m saying
/r/seduction13/07/20 08:23 PM
1

Imagine thinking the line is the problem, can we please discuss his physical attractiveness? Thanks
/r/seduction13/07/20 06:54 PM
1

Can you read?
/r/seduction13/07/20 05:13 PM
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I’m not facially attractive and pretty chubby. Is it actually possible to have success with beautiful women without being attractive? Yes, but honestly seeing this sentence just really annoys me. Why don't you actually try to emulate the characteristics of the women you want? It would make it so much easier if you were also in shape and also as a functioning human being you should honestly want to be healthier and feel better about yourself. Anyway, it's the same way you get women when you are f…
/r/seduction13/07/20 03:56 AM
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Not really and the one's he did get haven't texted him back.
/r/seduction12/07/20 10:38 PM
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Yeah, everybody knows that. That's why I said they "at least" get numbers however, OP isn't getting numbers at all, so clearly there is something wrong here because getting a number shouldn't be that hard. Sure, numbers don't equal a date, but if you get enough numbers eventually a percentage of them will lead to dates.
/r/seduction12/07/20 09:55 PM
1

Username checks out lol
/r/seduction12/07/20 07:00 PM
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There are literally thousands of youtube channels dedicated to doing this and they def at least get numbers.
/r/seduction12/07/20 06:30 PM
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I didn’t say go monk mode you moron. I said he can approach during his months of improvement. His lack of success is because he’s a chubby indian guy with an accent batting at cute white women. You do realize that most dudes can at least get a girls number without ANY game, right? Anyone can get phone numbers, it doesn’t take game to get phone numbers from girls. If dude can’t even get phone numbers and every girl is saying she has to go or she has bf, it’s his looks dude.
/r/seduction12/07/20 06:00 PM
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Sure, I’m just saying that in my opinion if he continues to do what he’s doing without focusing on his SMV it’s an inefficient use of time. Being low SMV and becoming a master at talking to women will get him some results, but he will have to get REALLY good and talk to A LOT of women. If OP took like 3 to 6 months to heavily focus on improving his SMV, his results would be insane.
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:03 PM
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I literally just go up and say “Hey, I saw you walking and I think you’re pretty cute and wanted to meet you” Really doesn’t matter all that much what you say specifically, but after that she’ll usually say “Oh thank you!” And then she’ll either say she has a bf or she’ll keep talking with you about small talk like y’know what’s your name, where are you from, what do you do, etc then ask for the number or if she’s down to hang immediately. That’s it.
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:40 AM
1

Yeah, definitely. I think being direct is better for day game and indirect is probably better for night game. Either can work tho.
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:37 AM
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Both can work, but I find just being open and honest is best. That way, the girl knows why I’m there and she can choose to reject me immediately if she has a bf or isn’t interested. If she keeps talking to me after I tell her I think she’s cute then that tells me she is interested. If I ask her for her opinion on something, then now at some point you have to transition the conversation in a romantic way and she might have a bf or something so you just wasted your time on her.
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:33 AM
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I’m not telling him to quit forever or even to quit at all, but OP needs to know that his results aren’t due to bad game, it’s due to his looks. OP is falling for the BS PUA coaches spew about how looks don’t matter and they know plenty of 5’5 fat indian guys who crush it with women. You can tell bc OP talks like a PUA. Telling OP to “keep it up” and that “it takes years to get good” instead of asking “Hey bro, nice effort, but be honest how do you look?” Is hurting him way more. At this rate hi…
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:24 AM
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Yeah, she gets a lot and do you know how low the bar has been set for men to be attractive and stylish? How many good looking guys do you see on any given day? Why not try to become as close to that 10 percent as you can?
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:19 AM
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How is he hating when OP hasn’t even gotten a date or text back after 44 days of approaching 5 women per day? A lot of us are here because we’re trying to help OP succeed. I think the one’s who are feeding him lies and platitudes like “keep it up, you’re getting better!” are the ones hurting him. This isn’t about his game, the real issue that nobody wants to discuss is that OP just isn’t attractive. Game is not something that allows a 4/10 guy to talk the pants off of sober women with his charm,…
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:10 AM
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It takes over 44 days of approaching 5 girls per day to barely get phone numbers and 0 dates? No, approaching women, getting dates, and getting sex is a normal thing that people who aren’t into PUA have been doing since forever. It doesn’t take decades of practice and techniques to get girls. OP isn’t having success because his SMV is too low. I’ve talked with him via PM, so I know. He needs to self improve then try again.
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:01 AM
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Good guys don’t finish last if they’re sexually attractive, confident, and have game. They do finish last when they’re too scared to do anything, boring, and physically unattractive.
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:31 AM
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Treat her like you just matched on a dating app. Shoot her a message and try to set up a date/hangout, but you wanna drop a hint that’s more than just being friends
/r/seduction12/07/20 01:18 AM
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Show intent, flirt, make moves. When you approach a girl just say you thought she was cute and wanted to meet her instead of asking her for directions or something
/r/seduction12/07/20 01:17 AM
3

Whatever works for you man
/r/seduction11/07/20 04:11 AM
3

That’s so weird lol
/r/seduction11/07/20 12:12 AM
1

Smh this girl sounds so wack dude
/r/seduction10/07/20 08:51 PM
1

I bet he was fucking her tho
/r/seduction10/07/20 08:17 PM
1

This
/r/seduction10/07/20 06:28 PM
2

Or learn how to actually use it
/r/seduction10/07/20 06:27 PM
1

it could be that she just wants to make you wait, some girls are like that. It’s important to understand that she has all the power here, you are more interested in her than she is in you, you initiate everything. This chick is low interest and that could change over time, so you just have to give her some space and see if she comes to you. If she doesn’t reach out after you back off for a week or two then you can text her and try to take it further, there’s just not enough information here to 1…
/r/seduction10/07/20 06:06 PM
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Yupppp, this is facts, but if your goal is to bang just invite them over for drinks, don’t add obstacles. Worst thing she’ll do is move the goal post or screen herself out, saving you time.
/r/seduction10/07/20 05:57 PM
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I’m confident that you could have fucked the 2nd night, you should have at least tried to. I’d be ready to let this one go, man. She might’ve been disappointed that you didn’t make a move on the 2nd night. She def sounds like she’s losing interest. I’d recommend just to go talk to other girls and leave her alone for a week or 2, then maybe shoot her a text asking to come over and attempt to close on that.
/r/seduction10/07/20 05:55 PM
1

Are you okay?
/r/seduction10/07/20 02:22 AM
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It's not the only way for everyone, but it sounds like it's the only way for you, which is fine. Getting in shape and upping my style reduced (not cured) my approach anxiety with talking to attractive women before I even started approaching, but I'm not everyone. Regardless, it's something you have to do anyway and I'm sure it can only help you. Never put women on a pedestal, they are just human beings. They feel all the same emotions you do, anxiety, sadness, insecurity, no human being is exemp…
/r/seduction10/07/20 01:43 AM
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I mean, I agree with you on most of what you said. Also I know op is struggling because of his looks and less so because of his game, but nobody is willing to have this talk with him. I’m just saying that dudes who say it’s all about looks should improve their looks because looks are super important. Yeah, you cant control everything but your physique, style, accessories, and a nice haircut is pretty hard to come off as ugly unless you’re like deformed, missing teeth, or 5 feet tall.
/r/seduction09/07/20 06:14 PM
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Hey, well first off I understand where you're coming from. You're on the right track, you just need to keep self improving. Keep working on getting a better body, work on dressing better, anything you can control to put yourself a cut above the rest and give yourself a confidence boost. ​ Don't take OLD personally, despite what some people might say it is not a reflection of the only women you are capable of getting. Men are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to OLD. Women hold all the powe…
/r/seduction09/07/20 05:15 PM
1

Nah say, you seem like a great girl, you deserve 2
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:58 AM
1

It’s his looks bro
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:58 AM
1

Then improve your looks?
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:51 AM
1

While you're not inherently wrong, you'll get more girls if you give them your number and you text them. Any girl that would have texted you first had you just given her your number would have also been receptive to you texting them first anyway. However, on the flip side some girls you would actually get by persisting and trying to text them first, you wont get if you give those types of girls your number. Some women want you to make all the first moves, just because she isn't chasing doesn't m…
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:48 AM
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lol I didn't get my first kiss until senior year and one of my close friends is 25 and hasn't had his first kiss yet either. it's actually way more common than you think and also there are girls who are your age and older who haven't either. You don't need to bring it up, honestly if you're nervous about being a bad kisser as embarrassing as this advice might sound just look up how to make out and watch videos of people making out. Fake it til you make it, it really isn't that difficult you'll b…
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:20 AM
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You did the right thing, of course the girl thinks it’s stupid bc your friend is probably like a brother to her and girls are so oblivious that all their guy friends want to fuck them. Also I’d bet money that your friend definitely cares and is hiding his feelings. Sounds like he’s admitting to the L and being a good sport about it. Idc how drunk you are you don’t say “I’m gonna fuck her tonight” about a girl you’ve known for years and just forget that or act like you don’t at least see yourself…
/r/seduction08/07/20 05:53 AM
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I mean it sounds like you're pretty self aware about what you did wrong and what you should do. Definitely ignore this person for a while longer like at least a week or 2 and see if they decide to reach out. if they don't and it's been a while and you're confident they're never going to reach out, you reach out and make one last attempt to close on that. If it doesn't work out, you gotta let that one go.
/r/seduction07/07/20 11:07 PM
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thanks, I hate it
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:29 PM
1

So you have two options 1) get a tripod with a bluetooth remote. I own this for content creation and tinder photos. Look up Ubeez tripod on amazon it’s super cheap. Use it to take pics of yourself in cool spots. 2) Don’t use OLD bc it’s primarily for hookups.
/r/seduction07/07/20 03:07 AM
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You should probably talk to your friend about it, but here's the thing. This girl doesn't owe your friend a damn thing, he's known her for 2 years and nothing has happened. Based on the details of this post she clearly likes you and isn't into him. He had 2 years to figure out that she didn't like him and that's his mistake. Whether you get with this girl or not, she's going to get with someone that isn't him and he is going to have to learn from his mistake and not put all his eggs in one baske…
/r/seduction06/07/20 08:23 PM
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Yeah but are you gonna answer or will you treat me like all those random guys that stay on read? Literally never ever say this literally ever. First I need to clarify, when you say girls are flaking, do you mean that you're setting up a specific date and time to meet with these girls and they cancel last minute or do you mean that after you meet a girl and get her number she never texts you back? It sounds like the latter, but I was confused because I don't consider that a flake. If you get a gi…
/r/seduction06/07/20 08:03 PM
1

Ay bro got any of them fresh links?
/r/seduction06/07/20 07:52 PM
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No, you're not hopeless lol. You already know the answer, you just pointed out all of your flaws. Fix the things that you can control and have no insecurity about the things you can't. Then put yourself out there, talk to girls in the store, on the street, go to a bar with some friends and chat up some girls. One piece of advice too is try not to aim only for the dime pieces if you're still working on yourself.
/r/seduction06/07/20 06:04 PM
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I am super confident with people and all my other crushes, except for her. please tell me, that by crushes you mean you've been talking to and hooking up with other girls during this 3 year period lol. The way you win with this girl is the same way you win with any other girl, she isn't special. You need to remember that no matter what any PUA guru tells you, you are never in 100% control of the outcome when it comes to getting girls. All you can do is be the most attractive you that you can be …
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:53 PM
1

As a guy who has to work for it, I’m actually really interested in your perspective, mind if I PM you?
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:36 PM
2

Hahaha I’m sure many guys envy you then
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:31 PM
1

Depends, If you’re too introverted to go out to bars snd clubs I doubt OP has good enough pics for OLD unless he is just that genetically blessed to where he can get away with selfies and a mirror pic of his body.
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:29 PM
1

Curious, have you considered night game? I’d be interested in seeing some night game reports.
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:25 PM
2

Because you have to actually talk to girls and ask them out or ask for their number.
/r/seduction06/07/20 04:19 AM
1

Go out to bars and clubs or raves. A 21 year old girl dating a 25 year old guy is not weird at all. Who cares what anyone else thinks anyway? You’re both legal adults.
/r/seduction06/07/20 04:16 AM
2

Agreed, don't bring it up unless she does first. Once she brings it up then it's based on what you wanna do.
/r/seduction06/07/20 12:06 AM
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First off, congrats you're willing to do what the vast majority of people not even just men wont do so pat yourself on the fucking back. How do i quit self pity and quit thinking about how much i want a gf? Realize that your lack of sex/relationships up until this point has nothing to do with you as a person, but to do with the actions you chose to make. You chose to smoke and not take care of yourself, you chose not to pursue women. It's simply just your decisions, it doesn't mean you COULDN'T …
/r/seduction05/07/20 11:12 PM
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When it was just about physical attraction, I thought you were at least expressing something rational. But now you're just making the semantics train go round. What IS "attractive" anyway? It was never "just about physical attraction", sure, I listed "typically attractive" for the bad boy, but then I listed attractive qualities after that that are not related to physical. There's being physically attractive in terms of your face and body, but you can also be attractive in many other ways. Being …
/r/seduction05/07/20 04:24 AM
1

I much more enjoy it myself if the girl has a nice interesting personality. If she has no personality I'll do my thing she will be entertained, attracted to me, having fun and I'll have fun in the process but If she also is rly interesting and playful then that's much more fun for me. Same for me too. If a girl isn't interesting to me over text and I'm carrying the conversation she gets put in the fuck zone. Those are the girls that I haven't snapped/texted since we last hooked up as a one and d…
/r/seduction05/07/20 03:29 AM
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Sorry, I'm not trying to judge since I respect that you're taking action and I'm just giving my opinion from my keyboard, but I don't understand the point of this artistic opener, it's so niche and most girls are just going to say no anyway.
/r/seduction05/07/20 03:10 AM
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LOL This FDS post is literally ass backwards. Women are the one's that complain largely about guys saying hey. How many bumble/tinder guide videos and masterclasses can you pay for or watch for women? How many tinder opener guides are there for women? How many tinder bio guides for women? Men are constantly put pressure on to have an interesting bio and an interesting opener and nice photos while most of the women on these apps take mirror selfies with their ass and tits out, say they like anima…
/r/seduction05/07/20 02:59 AM
0

How do you want to respond? Do what you want king.
/r/seduction04/07/20 11:12 PM
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Here's my take, but first let me define what I think is a nice guy and a bad boy. Nice Guy - Typically physically unattractive, doesn't get out much, might be a bit awkward, clingy/needy, puts women on a pedestal. He's not getting rejected BECAUSE he is nice, he is rejected because other than being nice he has NOTHING else to offer. He doesn't turn her on sexually. He isn't interesting and he doesn't stand out from her better options. He is compensating, he thinks doing everything a girl says sh…
/r/seduction04/07/20 09:09 PM
2

Wow super insightful
/r/seduction04/07/20 09:55 AM
1

What exactly do you want? A girlfriend, a wife, multiple hookups with different girls? I’m almost 30 and have no idea how to meet people. Find hobbies that you think are cool that simultaneously will cause you to meet more women. Go to bars, clubs, concerts, etc.
/r/seduction04/07/20 09:53 AM
1

I see only facts here
/r/seduction04/07/20 04:48 AM
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The caveat to this is that the girl has to actually give a shit about you for this to work. If you have nothing to offer the girl and you don't turn her on then ignoring her will do nothing.
/r/seduction03/07/20 09:51 PM
2

Sup
/r/seduction01/07/20 01:51 PM
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so it sounds like you're asking for advice in two difference scenarios. Scenario 1 is right after approaching and scenario 2 is after getting the number how do you text her. After you approach her, you can say or ask anything you want to, but just try to keep a fun and flirty vibe. You're in your head because you don't think that just you going up to the girl and being yourself is enough. You think you need some sort of tactics or trick because you put her on a pedestal and think she is better t…
/r/seduction01/07/20 06:49 AM
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If this works for you then that's dope man, but personally I'm of the belief that you should just talk about what you want to talk about and ask what you want to ask. If I really don't care about her family I'm not going to ask about them, but I might ask her if she likes a certain type of music I like or if she's ever been to one of my favorite spots, or if she likes to drink what I like to drink because any of those things are super easy for me to talk about and to transition into asking for t…
/r/seduction01/07/20 06:33 AM
1

Honestly, not really. I think the fundamentals, self improvement, and taking action are really the only three things you need. The more specific people's advice with game gets the less I resonate with it. I try not to pay attention to specific openers and tactics that others like to discuss.
/r/seduction30/06/20 09:43 PM
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The golden rule is that the person that cares the least has the most power. If you double text him, you're giving your power away. He doesn't care about you, the only way you'll possibly get his attention after you let him hit is with nudes or a booty call. If that's the attention you want then text him at 2AM to come over and he probably will. If it isn't the attention you want then just block him. If you're looking for a real relationship and you continue to consider this guy and try to lure h…
/r/seduction30/06/20 09:25 PM
2

I think this response is perfect lol but honestly, I'd just tell her yes
/r/seduction30/06/20 09:19 PM
1

When I say that you're showing her that you're being needy I mean that you're showing her in ways without even realizing it. You're probably texting her back quickly, showing a lot of interest in her, you're probably remembering every date and always being available and checking to make sure she remembers. She takes an hour to text back and then you respond immediately etc There's a lot of ways to communicate things without realizing you're doing it, but at the same time I admit I'm assuming. An…
/r/seduction30/06/20 09:16 PM
1

No news is good news and if a girl is continuing to kiss you multiple times after the first without pulling away or showing signs of disgust then you're probably doing fine. It isn't that hard, being a good kisser is more about just not doing stupid shit than it is about having some tricks up your sleeve tbh.
/r/seduction30/06/20 08:28 PM
1

I texted her a quick "hey" at around 8pm and she had no response until the next morning and when I texted her back after I woke up, I haven't received a response in an hour. This is really unusual. She typically responds within 30 mins, max has been about an hour. Okay, so a couple things. First off, you're being really needy and if you're showing how needy you are to us strangers on the internet, I can promise you that she feels it too and nothing turns a girl off more than a needy guy. Second,…
/r/seduction30/06/20 08:13 PM
2

No, she knows too
/r/seduction30/06/20 06:12 PM
1

This
/r/seduction30/06/20 06:05 PM
1

This is a bullshit myth, everyone gets old and looks eventually will fade at some point. Yes, some men can still be very attractive in their 40's, but that is the exception not the rule and that's only if the man actually takes care of himself. Which fitness is actually harder the older you get. You're probably going to name a bunch of movie actors in their late 30's and 40's that are complete exceptions to the rule. How many attractive 40 year old men do you see in the U.S. walking around? Almo…
/r/seduction30/06/20 12:55 AM
1

I don't blame anyone for anything in my life. I make my own decisions and anything that goes wrong in my life, I attempt to fix it. You're making leaps in judgmenet, I'm not broke now, just because I'm not building an empire to get rich doesn't mean that I'm broke. Also anyone can get divorced at 40, that's not exclusive to somebody choosing to live the lifestyle that I choose to live, so that point was stupid. Again, if I want to start a business, I could do that in my 30's. Right now, I'm in m…
/r/seduction30/06/20 12:18 AM
1

How are you going to tell me or any other strangers on the internet what is and what isn't enough? Enough for what? That depends on the specific person and their specific goals. I know exactly what my goals are in dating/relationships and I know they are achievable based on what I have achieved so far, so no, I'm not going to give up on enjoying my life in exchange for working my youth away. I dunno who hurt you, but thanks for the input bro very insightful lmao.
/r/seduction29/06/20 11:57 PM
1

So? But you will beat the success of your past self.
/r/seduction29/06/20 11:34 PM
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Not to be that guy, but I disagree that it’s huge. She’s an influencer (although small, she still is one) and from her perspective a fan tagged her in some fan art and she thanked him. I follow IG models that put up fan art and stuff from their fans all the time on their stories. But I do agree that OP should just shoot his shot and see what happens, no point in thinking you aren’t good enough. Anything could happen.
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:37 PM
1

I wont hate on that guy because he deserves his success. I don't think there's a right or wrong way to live life. I understand that you're trying to make sure that some people don't waste their life chasing girls because girls don't inherently add value like money does, but you have to understand that your post is aggressively telling people how they should live their life when it's really not your place to tell anyone that, that's all I'm saying. Yes, looks are something you're born with but ju…
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:27 PM
1

Look man, you only get one life to live. Most of us here are 18 - late 30's, if there was ever a time to chase girls, it's now. I can build a "legacy" or business literally whenever I want, but as you stated yourself that with chasing girls it's largely about looks, so why would I spend my best looking prime years grinding out a business when I could enjoy my youth going out having fun cool experiences and wild hookups with girls?
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:08 PM
1

What the fuck? lmao This shit is HELLA cap
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:04 PM
1

This
/r/seduction29/06/20 09:58 PM
1

hahahaha I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean but you're probably dealing with some pedophiles or something. Be careful on the internet with that stuff, you're only 14 years old, so relax you have so much time ahead of you to pull the girls your age in your area. You should focus on improving yourself so that you destroy the competition when you turn 18 or whatever the legal age is where you are. Hit the gym, learn about nutrition, and how to dress. Trust me, few guys your age or even older are …
/r/seduction29/06/20 09:48 PM
1

Logically a bad idea, ethically who cares? Do what you want, but understand the risks you're taking.
/r/seduction29/06/20 09:37 PM
1

It's really not that deep, you guys need to relax lmao
/r/seduction29/06/20 06:51 PM
4

Nah, it works when you got the juice. I’m tellin ya’ll, never failed.
/r/seduction29/06/20 06:44 AM
3

Lol It really do be like that sometimes
/r/seduction29/06/20 05:06 AM
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Idk it works for me because the self deprecating humor is a joke and clearly not true. If I was fat I wouldn’t go up to an in shape person and call myself fat lol but I feel you, maybe I don’t have to do that but it works for me every time.
/r/seduction29/06/20 02:47 AM
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Yeah, I’ve been doing this subconsciously my whole life because I always wanted people to like me (nice guy syndrome). It definitely works and honestly you can definitely do it with strangers. I would just compliment them on something and take interest in them like “where did you get that!?” Follow it up with some self deprecating humor like “I could never pull that off I have no sense of style hahaha”. 9 times out of 10 they will compliment you back and downplay themselves like “haha no, you lo…
/r/seduction28/06/20 11:30 PM
2

So I’ve been friends with this girl for a while and we talk through Snapchat in a friend-like way. Well, this is where you fucked up I was wondering if there was a way to escape the friend zone on Snapchat, The secret to escaping the friend zone in any situation is understanding that you put yourself there and that the reason guys end up in the friend zone is because the guy is acting like a friend to her without implying or acting like he wants more. There's no trick to getting out of the frien…
/r/seduction28/06/20 08:18 AM
2

I'm gonna be honest, I don't have a whole lot of experience with being a "short" asian guy nor do I really have any "short" asian friends, but I do know that you shouldn't give up. I wont lie, it's going to be harder for you than for others because you're 5'7 (which honestly isn't even THAT short) and idk about Australia, but here in the U.S. Asian's are among the least desired race of men typically, but there are also other people out there that are gonna have it harder than you, so at what poi…
/r/seduction28/06/20 08:06 AM
1

idk man have you tried alcohol? Tends to do that to you, what did you expect from people at a night club? lol
/r/seduction28/06/20 07:57 AM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:55 AM
1

Yup, unfortunately I started my self improvement journey during this quarantine, so I've been relying on tinder/bumble to meet girls, but at least I'm learning how to utilize it. This was the exact mistake I was making. I would add girls on snapchat and I would text them multiple times a day througout the week while showing interest in them thinking that was what I was supposed to do. Texting them about what I was doing in the gym and what I ate blah blah, they don't give a shit lmao. ​ I would …
/r/seduction26/06/20 11:14 PM
2

lol good answer, I get what you mean. I'll have to try that style out myself and see how it goes, thanks.
/r/seduction26/06/20 07:02 PM
1

Not sure where the downvotes are coming from because I agree with most of these points especially 1, 3, and 4. The one thing I'm not too sure on is number 2, obviously you don't want to shower her in compliments or make her feel that you're only after her body, but don't you feel that as a man at some point in the conversation you need to communicate that you're talking to her because you think she's attractive? I mean, you don't want to just make a new friend, you're talking to her because you …
/r/seduction26/06/20 06:43 PM
2

Good shit with the approaches man, but I personally wouldn't recommend the "are you into fashion?" line unless you really notice something about her fashion brand or something that actually makes you feel that way because you're making a really specific assumption about the girl that will most likely backfire resulting in a no from her and you're giving your power away by validating her and approaching her like a fan to a celebrity. If she thinks that she looks meh or even bad and you walk up to…
/r/seduction26/06/20 06:20 PM
2

Yeah and honestly girls from like 18 - 25 (sometimes even older) are still willing to keep their options open even if they have a boyfriend if they are into you.
/r/seduction25/06/20 10:16 PM
1

The perspective change comes from when you're actually qualified for the position you're applying. A millionaire is a millionaire even if he's bank account is drained, and a poor person is still poor even if they win the lottery. dayum
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:16 PM
2

Lmao Just let it go and text some other girls. She might come around or she might not. You literally did nothing wrong, she might just be busy or she might ghost you, who knows? Can’t control what she does, dont stress over her if she aint your girl yet.
/r/seduction24/06/20 04:02 AM
1

Yeah, I mean. I try not to overthink it, I don’t need a reason to talk to a girl. I’m talking to her because I’m a man that’s sexually attracted to a woman. I’d rather her know exactly why I’m talking to her than to chat with her about the weather for 5 minutes.
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:27 PM
1

Yeah, I mean shuffling, creating kandi, flow art, it’s a whole culture my dude just show up lol
/r/seduction23/06/20 04:24 PM
1

I mean cool is relative, they are cool to me. I took interest in photography, cooking, drawing, dancing, raves, and making youtube videos. I still try new stuff all the time.
/r/seduction23/06/20 03:01 PM
2

Haha Thanks, it’s really starting to show finally
/r/seduction23/06/20 03:08 AM
2

Yeah, I mean even a simple introduction, statement of intent, and then attempot to close in under 3 minutes should suffice. I'm not trying to argue that anyone should do things the way I would. It's just that as a salesperson I come from the school of thought that you should always be closing. I get it if it's your first time ever approaching a girl and you're getting over that hurdle of just talking, but my man here is on day 25 of approaching at least 5 women per day so I think he's beyond tha…
/r/seduction23/06/20 12:37 AM
1

No worries, I get that.
/r/seduction22/06/20 11:16 PM
1

That's dope man, I'm glad to hear you fought through that anxiety and not only that, but you stuck in there instead of just saying a compliment and then darting away. That's tough to do, one piece of advice I would give tho, don't worry about girls blocking/deleting your phone number. It's bound to happen and it does sting the first few times that it happens, just like getting rejected in person, it's just a part of the process. If you're talking to a large number of girls then you wont even car…
/r/seduction22/06/20 11:04 PM
1

Hey, good job on this, but why don't you ask for their numbers?
/r/seduction22/06/20 10:47 PM
3

Yep and I agree with you. Not to sound morbid, but dating can sometimes be a tug of war between interests. For example, Some women will put out early and often to a guy she really likes because she's so desperate for a relationship with him that she thinks her vagina can keep him around, but a guy of high value isn't that desperate for vagina so it probably wont work, but he'll take it since she's giving it for free wasting her time. On the flip side, some men will give women a ton of attention,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:42 PM
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I really agree with this. When I first got into PUA and the RSD stuff, I to this day really appreciate their material and inner game concepts, I'm not saying they're wrong or it doesn't work. But back in those days, I had so much theory crammed in my head that when I went to talk to girls I was overthinking and overcompensating. I was trying to use the right "technique" on her and trying to be "the life of the party" when in reality I came off like a dancing clown and a creep. I didn't realize i…
/r/seduction22/06/20 08:44 PM
1

Said it perfectly
/r/seduction22/06/20 06:35 PM
2

If that's how you want to take it, but the question asked would I wait 2 - 3 months without sleeping with a girl I'm interested in. It didn't specify that I couldn't sleep with other girls while talking to her. If I couldn't sleep with other girls then I really don't think I would, but I can't say for sure since I haven't found a girl I was REALLY interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:09 PM
6

Yes, but I would be sleeping with other girls on the side until then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:53 PM
1

I get exactly how you feel, but don't worry. I lost my virginity at 18 and I obviously made a lot of mistakes, but she was a virgin too so it wasn't too bad. We only had sex one time and I had a 7 year drought of no sex or anything until I was 25. I was nervous because I felt like I would be bad in bed at such a late age. I just researched porn videos on how to have sex and read reddit pages like r/askwomen for tips and tricks and stuff like that. When the time finally came to hook up with a chi…
/r/seduction22/06/20 01:25 AM
2

Nah, big disagree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 07:49 AM
1

Let me clarify what I mean by bad boy because I would still consider kpop guys as bad boys. Like I said bad boy doesn't mean bad person, but sometimes it overlaps. I view bad boy as a persona or an image more than meaning they are actually a bad person. Literally when you google "kpop guys" they all look like edgy and dramatic heart breakers. They're posing with a hand over their face in designer clothes with a mean look that basically says "I could snap your heart in two" I don't think women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 07:28 AM
1

Do you still feel nervous each day or has it gotten easier for you?
/r/seduction19/06/20 06:00 AM
2

I could give the obvious answer of "because Chads are incredibly hot" and call it a day, but I'll answer the question a bit more deeply. People want what they can't have because everyone wants to be validated. People want designer clothes, nice cars, a hot gf/bf, etc not because these things inherently have value, but because of the validation they provide. For women, fucking an average guy is not validating. Average guys are all in their DM's, they're hitting on them in bars, they are abundant …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:20 AM
1

hahahaha bingo, I don't think bad boy means bad person, but they tend to overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 11:36 PM
3

Not much, before I give my full opinion on that I want to first clarify that at the end of the day when it comes to hookup culture, tinder, and one night stands girls will want to fuck guys they are sexually attracted to aka guys that make them wet. A lot of men have been conditioned that giving a girl flowers, being respectful, and giving compliments will make a girl fall in love with you which will then lead to sex, but this isn't the whole picture behind attraction, but rather a small part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 11:04 PM
2

Damn, I applaud your work ethic and effort. How's your interactions with these girls after the fact? Are you getting a lot of numbers and setting up dates? I'm just curious, good work either way!
/r/seduction18/06/20 05:32 PM
2

That's an interesting theory, I personally don't think it's a halo effect though. I think it's just simply that if a girl is hot, most guys don't really care if she's a good person or not because they just want to fuck her and that's it. She doesn't need to be a good person for them to want to fuck her just in the same way that a tatted up drug dealer bad boy doesn't need to be a good person for her to want to fuck him because he has sex appeal. Also the vast majority of women DEFINITELY prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:43 PM
1

Your responses are incredibly illogical and it’s really a waste of my time. The way you dodged me telling you to educate yourself on objectification is your cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:32 AM
1

The irony
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:21 AM
1

Again your definition is wrong and it makes all of your arguments completely invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:19 AM
1

Your definition of objectification is wrong and that is literally the entire problem here. Please take a minute to google the full definition and then come back. It’s like you think objectification means simply being attracted to an IG model and liking her photos or something. Seeing someone in a sexual way is fine, objectifying them is literally what it means, you see them as an object and not a person. This is an issue, when you say things like “They have little more to offer than their bodies…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:48 AM
3

Did it ever occur to you that women offer their bodies/sexuality on social media because that’s what people want to see? Sex sells, it doesn’t mean they have no other traits or talents just because they do that and it also doesn’t justify objectifying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:39 AM
5

That's a tough sale coming from "social media shows women have little to offer except their bodies" and "In today's society, women often complain about being objectified, serialized but consistently upload photos focusing on their body" Your thread topic implies that women have little to offer, but their bodies and then in your post you state that women complain about being objectified and then followed it up with "but" as if you can justify this objectification by them posting what they want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:17 AM
4

I missused the phrase, I meant that they are very different and pretty easy to tell the difference, that's completely my bad. "In today's society, women often complain about being objectified, sexualized but consistently upload photos focusing on their body" There is no, "but" OP saying "but" is saying that it's understandable why women are objectified aka not being treated like a person. Sending dick pics and inconsequential touching is common practice among men who literally objectify women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:11 AM
2

Nine times out of ten when dudes say this they are mistaking a girl wearing minimal makeup as wearing no makeup. I can promise the vast majority of men prefer a girl with makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:44 PM
10

I feel like there's a clear line between objectifying a woman and appreciating her beauty/body and I don't understand why that distinction is so difficult. Even if a woman has an only fans or is a sex worker, she still is a person. It's really that simple, meaning don't do stupid shit like sending her dick pics and touching her without permission. Why is this a discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:39 PM
2

Yeah dude, trust me. I took some selfies in my bedroom and I thought I looked so cool, but girls can see through that shit. It makes you look lame and tryhard, so I got no matches and if I did get matches it was with fatties. Shit can mess with your self esteem. Look up "How to beast tinder photos" on youtube, I used his video as a good reference for photos as well as "the engineered lifestyle tinder photos", Just copy what they say and you should have much better results. The way I did it is I …
/r/seduction16/06/20 10:56 PM
1

I'm in the same boat as you, so I have to rely on tinder to talk to girls and I feel like I've got the hang of it for the most part. One important and obvious thing to note about Tinder is that it's 10x more heavily based on your photos than what you say to the girl. ​ If you have good quality photos meaning no mirror selfies, having good lighting, wearing stylish clothes, having someone else take a pic of you or using a tripod to take them yourself in cool locations or doing cool shit then you …
/r/seduction16/06/20 08:10 PM
1

I mean, I get the point that you're trying to make, I'm not going to act like you couldn't make a case for the beta being the winner, because depending on what you define as a "winner" would dictate that. ​ However, most young men define their worth by having sex with a lot of pretty girls whether you agree with it or not, it's extremely common. Let's clarify what AFBB actually implies.. It essentially implies that the alpha was able to have fun experiences and sex with young hot women, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:52 PM
1

Makes sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 01:21 AM
1

I guess that makes sense, I prioritize ONS so I didnt really think anything if it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:35 AM
4

okay, but they still smashed so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:09 PM
1

Oh no, I totally agree with you. I'm just pointing out that it happens. Hearing you say you give up kinda makes me sad dude :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:34 PM
1

Yeah, I didn't know that. Still though, that's a corner case. Incels literally built a reputation of being a GROUP of men who are spiteful and hateful at the world over their feelings of being unwanted. Mass shootings, suicides, rape, etc are all common crimes associated with men who can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:57 PM
2

Np!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:48 PM
21

I've seen a few people in this thread define Chad as someone who gets sex easily, but I feel that's not entirely accurate. To me, a Chad is someone who gets sex easily specifically because of his physical appearance and sex appeal. An ugly A-list celeb, fat rich guy, or moderately popular band member can probably get sex easily or be approached for sex because of what they achieved, but nobody really calls them a Chad. Chad is a guy who girls actively pursue because of the way he looks, it's a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:41 PM
7

Assuming that all of her past dudes actually got her off. Seriously though, I still don't see the issue. If she likes him and he likes her, she'll teach him and he could end up being the best partner she ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:41 PM
1

Stop being afraid to fail and stop being afraid to put yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:39 PM
-3

Who cares about her past as long as she doesn't have an STD or kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:29 PM
55

wtf is this autistic rambling lmaoooo
/r/TheRedPill05/06/20 09:05 PM
2

Then don't date them? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:15 PM
1

You have the IQ of a kitchen table oh my, I’m done talking to you lol. Good luck hating women because you cant get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:00 PM
1

"former" incel, lmao riiiiiight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:57 PM
1

I'm on a desktop computer at work doing literally nothing, so yeah I don't mind typing a couple paragraphs of my own opinions and life experiences lol. You're the one who asked me to try to argue against your bitter incel ideology and I did, yet you refused to even look at it, so don't talk to me about logic while you're literally defying it at this very second.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:49 PM
1

I mean you don't have to read it, it's not like it took a lot of effort. I do think it's worth looking at other perspectives, so if you change your mind lmk
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:43 PM
0

Alright, so to clarify something. I'm not one of those overly optimistic people that says "looks don't matter" or "it's personality that counts the most", in fact, I think if your goal is to have a lot of options for relationships or (especially) casual sex that looks are probably the most important factor and a really good looking girl or guy does not have to try nearly as hard. However, what i just said does not mean that looks are the ONLY thing that matters. There's a common misconception th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:36 PM
1

This is ironically just as delusional as the guys who say that looks are the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 08:41 PM
1

I'm probably going to look mad dumb here, but umm who?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 12:09 AM
6

I've never heard of men killing themselves and shooting up buildings because they couldn't become a scientist or a doctor, I'm just throwing that out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 11:18 PM
3

In the context of dating it’s true. Dating is much easier for women across the board. Women are approached, women aren’t expected to pay for dates or even decide where to go for a date, Women dont need to have game, women dont need to be confident, women basically just make an online dating profile and then just sort through the matches. Men are not approached at all and typically get no matches on online dating. Being an attractive male is also much harder since women have makeup, hair extensio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:34 PM
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I went on OLD as a guy I felt was a bit better looking than me and a girl that I felt was also of equal attractiveness to him. I did it to get an idea of what other people’s experiences on tinder were like compared to mine, so I could learn from it. Obviously, the girl got a ton of matches within the first 2 hours. A bunch of hey’s and simping from dudes not in her league at all. The guy was a tall skinny white guy with a good jawline, he wasnt a 10/10 but he was good looking for sure. He didnt …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 05:50 PM
1

Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:20 PM
2

Yeah facts, idk why I said it’s like they dont know lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:49 PM
6

I dont hate women, but I can say that trying to get women has really caused me a lot of pain, low self esteem, and sadness in my life. It’s always been a huge insecurity of mine that girls never liked me and often ignored or even made fun of me. It isn’t really their fault, because I was fat, nerdy, and didn’t take care of myself, but like damn is it really such a bad thing that I just wanted to be accepted by a girl I’m attracted to? Lol I really just hate the bad “advice” girls always give to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:42 PM
2

Let me clarify why I linked these videos. You said that a skinny attractive guy is no less attractive than a buff attractive guy. However a lot of connor murphy’s videos feature him taking his shirt off while talking to girls and they melt for him while they didnt care much when his shirt was on. Also the girls in these videos are literally exclusively looking at and talking about these guys muscles, so saying “girls dont care about muscles” is clearly not true, maybe for a select few girls, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:58 PM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP4GE8DXru8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0avuIqeergQ& I'm just gonna leave these here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:05 PM
4

Idk how this is even a discussion. https://youtu.be/fD2briZ6fB0 Here’s a video on incels by someone who has lived life as a man and a woman. She states that she would rather deal with a firing squad of dicks and creeps than the sad loneliness and disinterest from everyone you receive as a man. Women are really trying to argue that being used for sex somehow invalidates the entire courting process they received, the validation, the attention, and the sex itself? Even though many women claim to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:26 PM
2

Attention, conversation, and fun from a woman who views you only as a friend is not the same as romantic attention, conversation, and fun from a woman that likes you more than a friend, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 06:20 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 05:59 PM
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Because they’re hurt and bitter. That’s why people say that and that’s why they dont get along I always thought connection just meant two people with common interest who like each other. My married friends claim that connection is a real bond, but I dont really get it, but I trust their judgement. I think I’ll experience that one day when I meet the right girl, but right now I’m only interested in sleeping around so true love snd connection are a little lost on me I guess lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:30 PM
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Yep I agree with you. To kinda clarify one thing tho Its also not just looks on OLD thats important, but having great pictures too. Good looking guys can lose out on a lot of quality girls due to bad pictures that either dont show how good looking they really are or that just make them look scary, boring, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:52 PM
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Because those sluts arent fucking them and they’re bitter. Men only like sluts when the girl is a slut for them. Its stupid but its true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:22 PM
1

Cant change your mind bc you speak the truth sadly. At least for most young men and even older men who never got their share. Pussy has intense power over a lot of men. A lot of men cant focus on their purpose until they get their share, men lie for it, kill over it, and obsess over it. Its been that way since forever. That’s why prostitution should be legalized in the U.S. like ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:40 PM
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I dont care at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:26 PM
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Because the idea of tinder is more appealing and safe for men than women. Women know a lot of men are on there just for sex and a lot of women are afraid of meeting up with a creep. Men on the other hand who are afraid to approach women can just swipe on them all day instead. Guys are horny, so they will just swipe all day to get as many girls as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:26 PM
2

Yeah, I suppose that’s a good way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:42 PM
1

Yeah, obviously. That’s clearly the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:17 AM
2

I mean, it IS a numbers game and women do tend to like “alpha” guys over betas who are to shy to do anything. So like...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:07 AM
1

Lol wut
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:04 AM
2

This is sarcasm, right? Sorry ppl say some dumb shit all the time and I sometimes cant tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:00 AM
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No it wasnt, posting that subreddit was not an answer to my question at all. That subreddit for self improvement has nothing to do with the guy or what is expected of the woman in a relationship. It’s self improvement for women regardless of relationships. Again TRP discusses how to approach, which benefits women because women dont want to approach and they want to be approached correctly. TRP teaches how to text girls, how to hold interesting conversation, what dates to take her on. This sister…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:35 AM
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Sure, I can understand weeding out the fuckboys. That essentially explains why FDS women dont feel they need to bring anything to the table other than basic kindness, I understand. However, I just wanted to clarify that that was in fact the case and according to you, it is. Also I thought Women look pretty and dress up for themselves and not for men? So that isnt a trade off since its only for yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:39 AM
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but it does, I'll agree that's it's more focused on attracting women rather than y'know being a better husband or bf or something. I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that TRP focuses on bettering yourself as a man, so that when you do go up to a girl, she's dealing whit a guy that she wishes would come talk to her and not some gross, needy, whiney, man-child, or cat-calling creep. That's what I mean. At least TRP focuses on what you can do as a man to better yourself in order to get the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:29 AM
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TRP teaches a lot more than just grooming yourself. I rarely see any discussion on FDS about self improvement or what women can bring to the table. All I see is posts and screenshots about LVM men or women telling other girls to ditch their trash boyfriend. Can you explain what are things that a HVW brings to the table that is not expected of a HVM as well? HVM’s are the one’s who approach, need to be creative with dates, should pay for dates etc. okay fine, then what does a HVW do? Other than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:41 AM
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Dont wanna be that guy, but I’m gonna be that guy. Not all women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:35 AM
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Can you explain what they’re bringing to the table exactly? You say its “assumed” and thus never discussed okay cool, but what is being assumed other than the bare min which is love, support, and loyalty? Dont get me wring, that’s great, but my point is these things are a given in a relationship and also expected of the HVM plus more. My question is what do FDS agree to do for HVM when HVM are expected to do meaningful dates, high effort approaches, pay for dates, etc? Well, fair point on the it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:21 AM
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Say what you want about TRP, but I used to watch RSD (basically a PUA company) videos back in the day which is how a ton of TRP guys got into TRP and PUA. Despite how the media portrayed them and PUA almost every video explained the female perspective to me and how to have empathy for the slut shaming, the creeps, the entitlement etc which made me a better person. I can agree with your point that FDS is LVM hating, that’s true. But I still dont see any content on the actual sub about what women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:01 AM
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I think its because its not discussed or promoted on the subreddit at all. If it is, maybe its in some small section bc every post is about not settling for trash men which I can get behind. However, I don’t understand why they feel that HVM have to be their servant while they literally offer nothing in return. By contrast, TRP talks about how to not be creepy, how to approach, how to be non needy, how to hold conversation, how to dress better, all things men are willing to work on to give the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:46 AM
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I like how TRP commonly puts the fault on men and focuses on how men can do better and how to be proactive and not get upset over rejection. To become better men, but meanwhile FDS focuses on how to take from men while not promoting women to do anything, but consider themselves a prize for no reason other than just being a woman lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:29 AM
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Prude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:18 PM
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Idk man I used to say the same shit til I lurked around r/trufemcels
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:16 AM
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eh, I don't think it's that black and white. On one extreme end of the spectrum if everything you do in life is for the purpose of getting women then yeah, that's a problem and most likely wont be getting laid because of you're a phony and needy. On the other hand though, you have to accept that we want to fuck women and that it's smart to do things to increase your chances. The whole "I do everything for myself and only myself and women just happen to appear because of it" is kinda BS.
/r/askTRP11/05/20 09:25 PM
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I mean why not both? He says "I always enjoyed sailing".
/r/askTRP11/05/20 09:19 PM
2

What dont you agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:28 PM
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You’re right, but Its just not that easy. Its social conditioning. Men have a lot of pain built up in their failure to get women and its tied into their self worth even though it shouldnt be. Its easy to say that from the female perspective. Its easy for me to say “why do women lie about how many partners they’ve had? It doesnt make you a slut” but thats because as a man it doesnt matter to me, but to some women that self image is important to them. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:09 PM
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Realistically you hit the gym, dress better, and play the numbers game. Not really a choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:48 PM
2

What? How? Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:52 AM
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Why is it a problem if a girl has double digit numbers? If she doesnt have any STDs or kids how does that logically effect you in any way? Guys want girls to fuck them, but also get mad when girls sleep around. They cant do both man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:23 AM
2

Why then? What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:26 AM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:15 AM
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Dont care
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:10 AM
1

C’mon now, you dont mean that. You must be hurting pretty bad to say something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:04 AM
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I mean people should be happy for themselves, sure. However, being happy doesn't get you laid/dates as much as looking good does. People who cant get tinder matches, relationships, or sex are people who are not physically attractive, period. What do 90% of incels and femcels have in common? They're all physically unattractive which is what makes them miserable in the first place due to the problems that alone causes in our looks based soceity. Physically attractive people can be miserable and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:04 PM
1

Yo, you alright bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:08 AM
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Yeah I mean you’re not wrong here ngl. I wonder if its because women really have no power over men? How would a woman really enforce her power? Men are biologically stronger. Eh maybe thats not it, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:35 PM
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Lol ooookay, of course we are. Keep generalizing men for literally no reason. So tired of this era of shitting on men and acting like women can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:16 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:55 PM
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No because you literally defy logic and dance around the point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:54 PM
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Thats everyone, who doesnt want to date 8s and up? Ugly, fat, and old women arent exactly lining up for the average man and below, but they are watching magic mike, 50 shades of grey, and drooling over actors like Chris Hemsworth and Henry Cavil. There’s nothing wrong with that, but to act like Women dont care about looks and only men do is a complete lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:47 AM
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Why is it only okay for fat or old or ugly women to complain about men wanting young slim thicc girls, but short ugly men arent allowed to complain about women wanting chad? Fat Ugly Girl: Guys are so shallow and ignore me for IG models. Society: Awe sweety, men are such pigs. Im so sorry. Short ugly guy: Girls are so shallow and ignore me for chad. Soceity: Oh my God you are not entitled to womens bodies I know plenty of short guys who get dates. Lmfao like bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:54 AM
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You could say “you’re not entitled to (insert anything someone wants)” it doesnt suddenly make people not upset that they cant get it. Its a pointless statement, men know they arent entitled to sex. Men just get upset at how hard it is to obtain. That’s like me telling an ugly woman she isnt entitled to a relationship when she complains nobody wants her, like no shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:07 PM
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Yeah, no. You’re delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:14 PM
1

Okay but these guys are still in their relationships. Its been years since I heard them say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:49 PM
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Dude Im 22 can you shut up with that? Nobody is saying that social circle and DMing isnt a way to do it, but the point is that there’s more than one way to go about it. Just because you never pulled a chick home from a bar before doesnt mean it doesnt happen on a nightly basis. If you’re just looking for a quick hookup, its completely viable just saying. But thats all I gotta say at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:32 PM
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Okay? You wanna like make a point or?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:23 PM
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What makes you think that a guy who is terrible with girls can post his gf to get other girls? Did your tiny brain ever consider that his gf isnt attractive at all? Preselection only works when you appear to be Desired by other bitches. You posting your highschool sweetheart that looks like a thumb is getting you no play. Grandpa? Lmao Its not my fault you live in a bum fuck nowhere town. How about you get out to a major city and realize how dumb you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:22 PM
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Lmao what? What if he doesnt want that one girl? So now if one person is attracted to you, thats all you need? People should have the freedom to find a partner or sexual experiences with those they want it from. Not everyone wants to settle on a layup that isnt exactly what they want. Also when was the last time you’ve been to a nightclub? Do you really think people still dont hook up at bars anymore? There is no way that you have a life if you think thats an 80s thing or even outdated in the sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:12 PM
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Do you go outside? Lmao That’s not exactly how that works at all. I have heard multiple guys say “Im so bad with girls if my gf left me, id be fucked” some dudes just get lucky and hook up with a classmate but have no idea how to go out to a bar and pick a girl up or flirt with the girl at the store and get her number. You realize a lot of incels and guys who seek TRP out for help have actually had some kind of success, right? Like a lot of incels have actually had a girlfriend for a month or be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:02 PM
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And yet the vast majority of men even ones with girlfriends/wives don’t know how to get laid if their gf they had since college or highschool suddenly dumped them. This is a stupid take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:43 PM
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I think both are shallow in their own ways. Men are more shallow when it comes to LTR's and Women are more shallow when it comes to casual hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:45 AM
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Who said they shouldn't? A lot of people are just in denial that it actually exists, so the argument is whether or not it's true, not really whether or not they should or shouldn't have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:38 AM
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I dont
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:58 PM
2

20yr olds are better looking typically. Thats really it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:36 AM
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I read the title and was like wow that's pretty dark then I read the post and I was like Yeah, I mean you got a point there lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:22 PM
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No, not at all. Who gives a shit about that? She's with you now, her past doesn't really matter. As long as she doesn't have kids or an STD I don't see why it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:59 AM
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How can you say all women who sleep around in their twenties wont wanna sleep with you or have fun with you when she meets you? Why did you just assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:07 AM
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But but where’s my free money!? 😰
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:19 AM
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Dude's in here saying if they were a girl they'd get fit and start a premium snap, when they currently aren't even fit as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:21 PM
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Wait, do you think she can't? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:19 PM
2

Years of rejection and being single with 0 tinder matches led to me being pretty bitter about women. I didn't understand why none of them wanted anything to do with me other than being just friends. I basically googled advice and found both the red pill and the black pill. I resonated much more with the red pill despite my frustration because I didn't want to give up on myself or women. I put it into practice and it literally changed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:10 PM
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Let's just keep it a buck, most guys just want sex to come as easy for them as it does for women and attractive/famous men. At some point a man has to accept that if he wants to get casual sex and relationships easily that he has to put the work in, regardless of it's fair or not. I'd say a good 80%+ men have the potential to obtain this, but they just dont believe in themselves or they are too lazy to even try. I understand there are some guys that have it way harder because they're like 5'5, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:48 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with a woman having a high lay count. I think dude's that feel this way are just bitter or immature. I'd rather be with a girl who is experienced and enjoys sex as much as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:45 PM
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What does bad mean in this context? Like morally or bad for who? I honestly never got why dudes care about women fucking a bunch of guys or enjoying her youth. Any guy who was attractive would more than likely do the exact same thing. Such a dumb thing to be mad about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:06 PM
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so like you haven't had any genuine guys hit you up on tinder? How do you know they're all dudes that just want hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:53 PM
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Oh I know she can get laid, when I say it's hard to believe a femcel can exist. I mean, that I still find it hard that femcels can't find a man to date/love them, but I haven't lived as one which is why I'm asking her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:01 PM
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I see. It’s kinda hard to believe that a femcel can exist. Do you just not wanna date a fat or ugly guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:59 PM
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Question, as a self proclaimed fat femcel. Assuming you’ve used a dating app. Do you ever get genuine guys on dating apps that you wont date because he’s ugly? I ask because I know femcels are said to get tinder matches, but I know a lot of them are creeps or guys swiping on everything to filter out later. My curiosity is are they ALL creeps or do you feel that some guys are just not up to par?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:58 AM
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Just because we can feel sexual attraction towards most women out of the blue doesnt mean you cant be special to a guy. The one’s we actually like spending time with are who we find special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:54 AM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:17 AM
1

We don't refer to people by gender, we refer to people by sex. like I said, newborns and unborn children are given pronouns based on their sex before they can even have a gender identity. "He's kicking!" "She weighed Xlbs at birth" If you were correct, we would refer to all unborn and new borns with they/them pronouns until they start presenting as male or female, but we don't do we?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:55 PM
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A female man? Thats not a thing. Maybe a feminine man, meaning a man that acts feminine. But he is still a man. Gender shouldn’t exist it literally means nothing. Sex is biological. Your behavior doesn’t determine your sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:27 PM
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Both terms are typically used by a sub reddit called Female Dating Strategy, it’s a bunch of man hating bitter women disguised as a source for self help. HVM = The guy that has everything a girl could want in a guy, but will treat her like a queen while she isnt expected to bring anything to the table. LVM = Every guy that isnt the above
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:46 AM
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You agreed that he refers to men and she refers to women. You also agreed on the definition of what a male and a female are. Someone appearing as something they arent doesnt exempt them from science. You seem to think whatever someone looks like that’s what they biologically are, which isnt accurate..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:37 AM
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Your question is dumb, do you really expect me to say yes? Of course we dont check their pants. That doesn't change anything, I never said that you were going to be correct 100% of the time. If it turns out they're not what you thought they were then just correct yourself going forward. People make mistakes when identifying pretty much anything in life, it doesn't make that thing the incorrect term they gave. I don't understand why this is so hard to get. He refers to males and she refers to fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:25 AM
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Oh I can already tell you it wouldn't work out. I know the standards of the gay community and they're pretty brutal. I just mean a girl doesn't really have to put out or be a super model. As long as she's a bit cute, she can make money just by sitting there playing a game. Oh and also I'm not interested in being a cam dude for gay dudes anyway. If I was a girl, I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy the attention of straight dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:03 PM
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I'm gonna be honest, I have never seen that. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but in my experience on the internet egirls are abundant and straight men just throw money at them, but I've never seen a straight guy on twitch or something where gay guys throw money at him for being slightly above average. Is this like a corner case or do you actually see a lot of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:19 PM
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Because they're really ugly in a way that can't be fixed, they're really short, and/or have no status at all. They probably bought into the PUA BS (Not all PUA is BS, I know) that any disgusting dwarf can have a harem of hot girls as long as he goes out 5 nights a week and acts like a positive dancing clown with a bag of tactics. When in reality PUA stuff really only works when you're already at least average if not a little higher. I know this because PUA stuff didn't really work when I was fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:58 PM
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Why did you quote a section that has nothing to do with your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:20 PM
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Damn, you would actually slay lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:55 PM
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Both, a lot of the unrealistic body standards that women talk about are self inflicted. Women tend to be insecure about shit that men dont even notice. Most guys standards are just don't be fat, dont have major deformities, shave, and wear a little makeup (not saying you have to, but if we're being real 90% of guys like at least some makeup) and most guys would be willing to date you. Men are willing to date a much larger variety of women. Women dont date men that aren't taller than them. That a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:51 PM
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like seriously date? No, maybe later on in life when I'm older, but for right now issa no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:47 PM
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Yes, 100% because I wouldn't need to have game anymore. I'd honestly just make an onlyfans and stream on twitch and profit from all the thirsty dudes. Not saying it's easy to do that, but I would at least give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:39 PM
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The self improvement? Yes. The texting them often and taking them on carefully planned dates? No, I'm not looking for Ms. Right, I'm looking for Ms. Right Now so I'm not exactly trying to pamper some random girls because I dont want to and I dont have to. Those are things I would do for a girl I love and am with, not some random girl on a dating app or bar that I just met and I'm trying to hook up with. Improving myself has caused a 180 in my success with women. Before, I wasn't confident in mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:25 PM
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"it's about what others identify the individual as" No, it isn't. If this was the case then multiple people could call the same person by a different pronoun and this pretty much never happens. I don't mean multiple people doing it by mistake because his obviously does happen HOWEVER, when multiple disagree on what sex a person is, we don't just accept that we can all call them a different pronoun. We try to figure out what their sex is so that we can all be correct. This is literally what we do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:53 AM
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Its not really a reason FOR using sex, rather we already do this and dont see a reason to just suddenly not use pronouns based on sex. Why take the effort to change our speech habits to use neutral pronouns which would literally benefit nobody and only give less information when talking about a non present person, so I’m not saying we need to I’m just saying its fine the way it is. You admit there are at least some circumstances where using pronouns based on sex is relevant although not common, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:38 AM
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I've been saying this for a long time. I don't think the term "gender" even needs to exist. I think everyone should just be referred to as their biological sex despite how you act/behave/feel. This is because it doesn't matter what you feel, you can't just say you're something that you aren't. That doesn't make it factually true. The funny thing is by saying something like "I don't identify as female/male" you yourself are defining feminine or masculine characteristics and choosing to remove you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:07 PM
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Agreed, but at the same time I also wish women would stop acting like the average man doesn't have a disadvantage overall when compared to the average woman and attractive men. I wish both sides could understand each other more. Everyone struggles with dating in one way or another. As much as I shake my head at dudes acting like women being able to have sex whenever they want is a godsend, I also shake my head at the women that act like it's not true that only attractive men can fuck a ton of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:43 PM
2

I get what you're trying to say, but how is paying for a service or being used for your money a privilege? Like that's not what priveledge is, you earned that money and are now spending it to get something. That isn't a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 08:19 AM
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The reason why guys are bitter is pretty simple. All women have the option of getting laid pretty much at any time because you have a vagina, tits, etc even if you aren't the best looking girl. For guys, only really attractive looking guys and famous/rich men can get laid easily and/or get approached for sex. This leads to bitterness because by contrast, a lot of average to below average dudes can't get laid to save their lives. They see that women and attractive dudes can, this leads to the bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:15 AM
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