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When will girls learn that women will always view nice men as weaker and feminine? For every experiment like the one you listed there will be a dozen that show that women are more attracted to dominant, abusive or aggressive men, take it or leave it. Maybe a women may settle for a nice guy after she's been ran through but if your in a normal setting it's horrible advice. Women need to stop telling men to be "nice". How many generations of men does it take to tell you that being nice not work whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:27 AM
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Most guys will choose a loyal, ride or die 7 over a a high maintenance, bitchy 8 or 9. Usually uglier girls dating more attractive guys won't complain as much, are good in bed/sexually open, and do favors (buy gifts, cook etc.). Sure the guys she dated were more attractive than her but if they dated a partner that was their looksmatch they would likely not be as into them as she is. Also they could have a good time with this chick, break up and always go back to the hotter ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:52 AM
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More than 1 person could answer a question, welcome to Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:34 AM
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You asked, I answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:23 AM
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Only insecure people do. Most people are insecure though. You happen to fall into the 10% of females that mutually respect honesty, which is cool but your not the average. Most girls would rather guys sell them a dream than take what's in front of them. It's like job interviewers encouraging candidates to "be honest" knowing damn well they will judge you off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:06 AM
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Nope, the conversations are very honest from the beginning, usually being forward encourages the girl I'm speaking with to be more open as well. I hate flirting, I'm usually awkward at it or if I'm good then I'm pressured to keep being funny or entertaining and become a "dancing monkey", which already builds the relationship on a shaky foundation if it even goes anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:49 AM
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Yeah no guys gonna just say "I wanna have sex with you" in the early stages of a relationship cause even if a women is attracted to him 90% of the time they'll rejected him for it. Men have to be vague with their intentions because that's what women seem to reward and be attracted to. If men could get laid by just asking for sex a lot more men would, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:22 AM
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takes away the fun of dating Does it really? I've always had the best interactions with the opposite sex when we were both honest and direct in our conversations and not putting up some cat and mouse bs. There's a lot more ways to have fun in dating than engaging in annoying mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:18 AM
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No, men are just used to communicating with one another in a much more blunt, direct manner. Women who are more likely to beat around the bush will rarely express what they mean to men in plain language ie, when you ask them what they want to eat or when they tell their partner that nothings wrong. Women will compliment each other but won't mean it and men will insult each other but won't mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:39 PM
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Just because you didn't buy her anything doesn't mean it was free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:18 AM
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Tons of relationships are based off prostitution in regardless. There is no such thing as having sex with a girl for free, you are paying for it in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:38 PM
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A lot of women are selfish in literally every stage of a relationship. They rarely approach, plan dates, pay for dinners, cook, buy engagement rings, propose etc Weddings are centered around them, and in the event of a divorce (which they initiate most of the time) they obtain money, property and sole custody at the expense of their male partner. If men did half of those they would be considered narcissists by just about anyone but many women would feel seriously insulted if a man even suggested…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:35 AM
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Sooo Real Life eventually wins imho. Not really there are plenty of unattractive but moral people who have the same if not worse results than her for no other reason than being born ugly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:18 AM
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So crying at the end of Cloverfield is all cool but crying after holding his child for the first time is gross, got it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:44 PM
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Emotional Support is a last ditch, exhausted all options choice for men, whereas for women it's very nonchalant. Men will try and solve the problem head on and if nothing works they might turn to some friends or family but a lot of men die with torturous issues that many of their closest friends and family are unaware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:12 PM
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Most women are not going to be your forever GF. IF they really cared about "Love and a family" they would't end a genuine relationship over a stupid title and if she does than any man dodged a bullet marrying her. I'd rather have a reformed slut "forever GR" than a gold-digging, 2 faced ex-wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:43 AM
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Love and a family. Apparently you need to sign government papers to experience love and family. Nope, no other alternatives! The fact that you said this let's all men know how delusional you are and that you have no justifiable answer to that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:06 AM
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Even if they did pass as "marriageable" its not worth the risk of losing half of your belongings and never seeing your kids again. Seriously what the hell do men even get out of marriage?? Everything from the proposal, wedding and divorce proceedings are built to benefit the woman at the expense of the man. Seen way to many horror stories to think I'll be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:48 AM
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IMO I've never partaken in prostitution but I don't judge any man that has. Furthermore I feel that being a prostitute is worse than fucking one for multiple reasons, for one the amount of men that are willing to pay for prostitution is significantly higher than the amount of woman that are willing to be prostitutes. Billionaires, CEO's, HOF Athletes, Celebrities, Politicians and Presidents have all engaged in prostitution, frequently while it was highly illegal and it is waves of women seeking …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:58 AM
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They travel for the tourist attractions and to say that they've been to NYC and seen the Empire State Building, L.A. and walked down the Hollywood Strip, Las Vegas and played at Caesar's Palace, never a mention of American girls. Nobody comes back from America and says, "Wow the women there we're so breathtaking/beautiful!", they compliment the attractions never the women. Negging lol? I don't even know if your a female and I specifically stated I do not agree with those assumptions. Most americ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:23 AM
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Is this how you rationalizing that western women won't date foreign men from non westernized countries. By Western I mean primarily North American with a few European exceptions. I've never heard of non-immigrant foreign men going out of their way to hook up with Western women. Many of them consider American woman to be overweight, unfeminine, loud, money hungry or arrogant from my experiences, not saying I agree. If a guy lived in Ukraine where the average women is slim, tall, attractive and ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:06 AM
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It’s not my fault their standards are subterranean Men are raised to vastly overvalue pussy especially in the west. Taught that women are princesses, all of them are beautiful and that they should be grateful to date them. Social media and OLD didn't help either. Western men are probably the most pussy whipped group on earth right now. This is why most international men can't stand dating Western women and Western men favour dating foreign women. Legalize prostitution and the dynamics would chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:50 PM
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A lot of these dudes will never admit that they are straight up engaging in prostitution You can say the same thing about like a 30% of marriages. Also if you need any validation that being a nice guy does not get you pussy look at male feminists. Being a good guy is the male equivalent to a well-educated female. Sure its a cool quality to have but it does nothing in terms of SMV. Status, looks and income are all much more valued by women and most would rather date an asshole HVM than a LVM who …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 02:57 PM
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This is why I laugh at women who say they are grossed out by high-n count men, like look around, that's literally all the guys they try and chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:21 AM
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I'd probably never call it and go about my day, or tell her I'm not interested in a relationship right now. Most women would understand. 1) If a man is going out of his way to NOT engage with a sexually forward woman he's probably in a relationship or not attracted to her. 2) Women are not used to and don't like putting themselves in a position to be rejected and after the first 1 or 2 times she would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 09:09 PM
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Would you be repulsed and shoo her away? Would you politely reject or ignore her signals? No lol that's what women do to ego boost. As a man I'd take it as a compliment, probably engage in some friendly banter, be unperceptive to any sexual advances and tell her I have to leave, she'll probably get the message. I don't think I'd be willing to date her as it would likely be in a club setting and my mind would be focused on getting sex from someone I find attractive and not necessarily a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:40 PM
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If a guy is having trouble getting girls I can guarantee that his Dad would get him better advice than his Mom. Dad would say "Work out/ work on yourself", Moms will say "Be nice to her/ be a gentleman". Men focus on logical solution,women tend to consider the persons feelings. Women are not good at blunt honesty and only do it when they are insulting someone, they can't imagine using brutally honest as a way to help someone. They will always add rose tints and sugar coating to any piece of advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:20 AM
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We’re asking that women who want to reproduce don’t do so with abusive men. Women are more likely to be attracted to men that are less invested in them. Females tend to value status, looks, income etc over personality but men that are high in those traits are less likely to commit to one woman, kid or not. Turns out that guys that don't give a shit about their partners, don't give a shit about their children as well, who would've thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 01:56 PM
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It's both. She's definitely shallow. Social media and OLD has made chicks even as vain as ever, which is fine. Men do not have a problem with this honestly. What they do not like is when women can "own being shallow" but turn around to criticize men for finding fat chicks, girls with no curves, stretchmarks, hairiness, tall women etc gross. It's the hypocrisy. Be as shallow as you want, just close your mouth when men own that right as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:21 PM
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Meh, you could argue that it would be worse without it. Nobody wants to pay for prisons, welfare, or rehabilitation programs but if they didn't the issues would only expand. Look at what happened when they got rid of government funded asylums, the crazy people didn't just disappear, now they roam the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:14 PM
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Men are not constantly encouraging women to make more money than them, in fact most men prefer women that do not make more than them. Women are the ones constantly nagging for men to do housework only to punish them for doing what they've asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:07 PM
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What do you think Child Support is? A lot of this could be solved if the government just introduced an opt-out of parental duties for men. Women complain that they "shouldn't be forced to be a parent, when they aren't ready" well why should men? If women knew ahead of time that men would not be supporting the child, then they could make better decisions regarding whether or not to keep the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:54 PM
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. I think women these days more often want marriage to be a “team effort” in most respects Yeah too bad the men that do more housework get less sex from their female partners. If women want men to do more at domestic work they're doing a terrible job at showing it. Also women don't want men that are " economically stable", that is their lowest bargaining point, they want a man that's " economically superior".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:44 PM
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Exactly. It's because saying "Just be confident" is a lot easier to tell someone than "Your jawline is weak, you have noticeable eyebags, your visibly over/underweight, pale and 2 inches too short". Women will not tell you the truth, many are not as blunt and to the point like men, face to face. Even if they were honest, half of them don't even know what they really want and the answers would still be wrong I.e. Dadbod.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:43 PM
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You are one man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:34 PM
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value of male love Your acting like female love is high in value. A Women's love is literally contractual, find a man to check off all your standards, if he loses that status previously outlined divorce him. take half his belongings and any kids. Women withhold sex or criticize their partners watching pornography but get mad when they cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:53 PM
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Seriously,not even surprised. Any man that still adheres to BP philosophy is delusional. How many lies do they want you to swallow. BP philosophy at it's core it is an ideology meant to benefit WOMEN not men,which is why millions of men that follow it are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:42 PM
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Men are not the ones protesting barbie dolls, non-existent wage gaps and confusing medical science for "fat shaming".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:32 PM
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Well men don't really like someone "at their level" and neither to women. Due to hypergamy it's much, much more likely for men to marry women they are more successful than. Best bet is to just get a solid prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:28 PM
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Do men here actually believe that young men don't have girlfriends or that women don't support men? Lmao women will break up with a man if he cries too many times in front of them. Females love conditionally and the second those conditions (high status, high income, etc.) disappear so does she...usually with half your stuff + kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:43 AM
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FDS is normal culture. Women are born being taught how to looksmax (make-up, plastic surgery, filters & photoshop), withhold sex, and that the female is the prize (both women AND men are told this). FDS is mainstream female culture. Men really have no issue with FDS as they grew up with it, the issue is women are allowed to freely discuss ways for themselves to get what they want from dating but when men make multiple attempts to do the same thing (RP, PUA) women flock to shut it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:50 PM
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Something about these women that robs a man of his senses. Its written in multiple ancient and religious scriptures. Men have been aware of the deceitful nature of women and how they use their looks or beauty to manipulate men. Most BP men view females as innocent, well-meaning girls. They have a huge blindspot open and can't anticipate things like pre-nups, DNA tests etc that women take advantage of and it comes to bite these dudes in the ass HARD. A huge chunk of RP and MGTOW are guys that got…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:29 AM
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They're only saying they care about n-count as a some sort of insecure, " taste-of-your-own-medicine" response to guys. Same girls are trying to make the words slut and whore applicable to men ignoring the fact that sexual dynamics exist. It would be like guys trying to label women as "losers or incels" for being virgins, good luck with that ladies lmao. Thankfully after dad-bod most men have learned to ignore what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 05:55 AM
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Women will certainly tolerate cheating from a high value man before they date a loyal low value man. Heck women don't even want affection from low value men. This is why people say BP is misleading, it just lacks common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 07:48 AM
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Did this guy really try and use a pornstar as an example? lmaoooo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 07:45 AM
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Women say a lot of things. Outside of this sub I've literally never even heard of a virgin boy kink, it's a lot more common for HVM to take girls virginities. For all the talk you hear about women and their virgin kinks, you'd think there would be a drop (not increase) in incels over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 07:41 PM
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Meh I think men care a lot more about this than women. If a women wants to settle down with a HVM she has to expect a likely high body count. High N Count men are usually attractive, successful, or high in status which is why they attract so many hypergamous women. I have never heard of women turning down a HVM for bodycount. Women are just saying that now, as a "taste-of-your-own-medicine" rebuttal to men. Look at all the guys smashing them, they have high body counts. Don't listen to what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 07:37 PM
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I mean the RedPill has been acknowledging the decrease in sex and promiscuity for years, citing an increase in female standards/hypergamy as well OLD and social media for the fall. They believe less people are having sex because women isolate a larger chunk of the male population from being options every year. More so the evidence you've provided further cements this point. "In 1990, about 3% of women had had over 15 sex partners. By 2016, this number was up to 7 percent." Women are actually get…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:09 AM
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Not even, the Halo effect will naturally convince women that you have a good or bad personality. For example, if you have a 5'6, pale, skinny guy and a 6'3, tanned, muscular man that are both quiet or reserved women will say the first man is too shy or awkward for their liking but call the second guy mysterious, laid back and cool. Most ugly guys have better social skills than their attractive counterparts, doesn't matter. Women will still label you a creep and laugh at any word that comes out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:58 AM
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let me ask you what kind of sadist are you that you think future humans should be ugly & stupid? It's funny that you act like your average, basic, superficial chick is sleeping with people that will progress the human race. The higher your IQ or the smarter you are the less likely these women will sleep with you and there's been a multitude of study to prove this. The guys in your average STEM lectures have never seen a vagina. Women don't care about how smart you are, they care about your money…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:39 AM
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I mean all the expectations the average women expects for her future partner are qualities that segregate most of the male population. The attributes they seek are things that are only possessed by 30% (or less) of men for example, making 6 figures an up, being 6 feet + tall, having a muscular body, being good looking, excellent social skills etc.. What's more is that they are only interested in a man with a combination of most or ALL of these features, 80/20 rule solidified. One has to ask, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:01 PM
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I am neither but liberalism will always outweigh conservatism imo. Nothing lasts forever. Values, cultures, laws etc, like everything else in existence will change. Trying to preserve the somewhat comforting past will always jeopardize risky but needed progress. Like the burnout who's too busy reminiscing on his high school football days to focus on mapping goals and dreams for his future. Look at the most conservative nations on earth and many of them have been so obsessed with the past that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 01:56 PM
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I can recall numerous occasions where i have seen female acquaintances without make up and the difference is night and day. Cosmetics can literally make someone look like a completely different person. Toss out the make up and the difference in looks becomes much smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:01 AM
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They just need to be successful and hot - or just really,really hot. There's a lot of engineers, computer scientists etc making 6 plus figures that are still virgins or can't get laid, so thats right out the door. Often by successful women mean either filthy rich or well known/famous, which is again a small portion of men. "Or just really,really hot." so like the top 1-5% men, got it, super easy. I still laugh when women pretend they don't know the 80/20 rule exists lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:22 PM
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You act like men didn't have this problem before online dating. It doesn't matter how or where you meet most women, if your unattractive and not rich/popular the vast majority will not be interested at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 01:00 AM
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28% of men between the ages 18-30 did not have sex within the last year So that's just completely normal, find and dandy? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:24 PM
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No you are. Western societies are literally the most egalitarian in human existence. There is more observable sexism towards men than women at that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:40 PM
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Polygamy only works in countries where: 1. A significant portion of men have died from warfare, leaving an abundance of females. Women are low maintenance and are believed to serve their husbands It wouldn't even be feasible in today's societies, outside of some closed off religious enclaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:35 PM
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Why don't women go and protest in countries where thats actually happening instead of bitching over men who leave their legs too far apart on public transit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:27 PM
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actually get out there in the world and meet people and put yourself out there Bro gtfo. When 30% of males are not having any physical interaction the problem is deeper than "just be confident bro". What society needs to do is legalize prostitution so men don't have to deal with "delusional, overrated broads" and women don't have to constantly reject men they find unattractive and creepy. Win for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:25 PM
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she would pick the 5'10 guy who she has a better connection with over the 6'2 guy You underestimate the shallowness of modern women lol, looks are the "connection".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:04 PM
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Form a group and then have it be disbanded by those same people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:02 PM
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"most women still value marriage..." Yeah, from high value men, they'd rather die single than spend the rest of their lives with the average joe. Most women don't get married cause they don't like their options, most men don't marry because they don't have any options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:06 PM
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I think the average man is less attractive (fatter and more socially awkward) they he used to be. Get rid of make-up and you could make the same argument for a lot of average women. They have the personality of a brick wall cause they're used to men carrying the conversation and keeping them entertained, but males are the socially inept ones. There's a reason so many female comedians suck lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 01:24 PM
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Yeah, back in the day most women just wanted a man with a stable job that could take care of her. Women now grew up as little girls being told they were princesses deserving of a prince. Now they expect men to be 6'0 or taller, make $100K a year,have muscles but not be "too muscular", be nice and caring but also also put her in her place, have compassion, and a be a Gemini. Social Media, BP culture, OLD have all inflated the hell out of their egos too the point where the average women believes s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 01:05 PM
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There's no issues with women having standards, the issue is them setting social, looks and wealth standards that they themselves fail to reach. It's like a 300 pound landwhale saying she wont settle for a man isn't built like Brad Pitt in Fightclub, how about you become around that level before making those demands. Many average or low-tier women will go single or inevitably settle once they realize these men are often reserved for top-tier women. Also men don't trade trophy wives, women initiat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:01 AM
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Well whenever men attempt congregate to solve these issues and form some sort of group for male guidance or advice whether it be TRP, MGTOW or PUA, the press or media shuns it as being sexist or misogynistic towards women and inevitably abolishes or bans it. Meanwhile feminists who are able to say echo "sexist" rhetoric towards men and masculinity in general are widely accepted by the same culture, even FDS is still alive and thriving on Reddit. It's like an ideological whack a mole, no matter h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:48 AM
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Dating standards in East Asia aren't higher than the ones Western countries. Their lack of sex is because they have a toxic work culture that encourages them to prioritize their job over all else in life. Most men will attest that dating east asian women is much less frustrating and nerve racking then women raised in Western countries..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:35 AM
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The dating standards set by most Western women are much higher than women elsewhere and unachievable to a significant portion of Western men. Prevalent male issues like divorce court & custody bias, lack of relationships and rising suicide go ignored or unnoticed by most women/society, while men are pressured to care about less impactful female struggles, are told that they are partly to blame for them and should attempt to "fix them". Women make supposed efforts under the guise of equality that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:29 AM
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Hard truth is most men will never cut women out of their life. Sex, finding a partner or starting a family is too in tuned with their biology and life desires. The men that do cut women out of their lives often never women in it to begin with. Men should never prioritize women especially over their goals, finances, or mental health but there's nothing wrong with focusing on dating now and then. If they want to get women they'll need to improve their looks to the best of their ability and actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 01:41 AM
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Funny how they complain a barbie doll is an unrealistic beauty standard, have they ever looked at G.I. Joe or Goku action figure? So barbie is unhealthy but a 350 pound runway model is progress? Then the same women say they don't like guys under 5'9 cause they don't look masculine enough lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 01:20 AM
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Wrong. According to Standford, as of 2019 Online Dating has become the most popular way U.S. couple meet. As you can see in this study it has skyrocketed from 2% to 39% in 22 years, while in-person meet ups (clubbing the only exception) have become significantly less relevant. This dominance will only increase as technology advances. Online dating is where looks matter the most, personality least, which is why PUA is virtually useless there. Daygame, a pillar of PUA, gets more pointless every ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 01:05 AM
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I said OLD (not just Tinder) and social media. Most men get women from those or personal social groups/Nightgame. 3/4 of those options are looks dominated. The amount of men that approach random women using daygame is minuscule, as it is awkward and strange to many women which is why there have been attempts to get it outlawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 11:29 PM
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Never listen to what women say. If Leonardo Dicaprio, Chris Hemsworth or Ryan Gosling hit her up they'd hit that night. The fact that high n-count men regularly sleep with women is proof of how bs this is. What women are not attracted to is a man gets no women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 10:14 PM
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No, PUA is dead because OLD and social media killed it. Technology replaces everything and dating is no exception. Approaching women you don't know on the street is getting more and more frowned upon and some PUA's have even been arrested because of it. Women are also much less interested in conversation with strange, random men because they get an unlimited amount of male attention from tinder and Instagram already. Nightgame and Tinder are the only options for dating now, both of which are hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 10:06 PM
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Mate you think the dating pool in the 1950's had as many undesirables as we do now? Get real. Recording breaking numbers in lack of sex and male virgins. We are the odd ones out. The fact that for the first time in human history men have to LEARN how to sleep with women should tell you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 09:55 PM
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True but the majority of women only desire high status men, 80/20 rule. That's why they tolerate so much bs (cheating, bad texting, being "rude") and label them players. They fail to realize that unless your a top tier female he will likely not see you as girlfriend material as your not the only women he attracts. The "no commitment treatment" from high status men is the female equivalent of the friend-zone. The thing is that women don't realize he's out of their league and jokingly think cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 09:53 PM
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Honestly in modern times unless a women has some sort of physical deformity there is no reason for her to be a 3/10. Knowing how to use makeup and getting a fit body alone can bump her up 3-4 points. Most 3/10 females probably have to be extremely obese and take 0 care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:56 AM
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Regardless of whether or not they worked for they're looks, being attractive is a feature that is desired by both genders and will be used as a sexual bargaining tool. Also most people can't even differentiate if you worked for your looks or if you were born with them. There's a ton of girls that got lipo, wear push up bra's and put on make up, none of which involves hard work but most guys could care less so long as they look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:08 AM
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Yeah if most people actually reached their "genetic limit" they'd be far better off on their "genetic average"or the average of their peers. For example there is a genetic limit for muscle mass that can be developed. If your average men worked hard and reached his absolute genetic limit he may not be Mr.Olympia but to most people he would have an outstanding physique. Half of the guys complaining don't even bother trying to maximize their genetic limit in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:35 PM
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Or Step 1. Be Attractive Step 2: Read Step 1
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:58 PM
2

One mans trash is another mans treasure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:57 PM
2

'If women were looking for attractive guys, the would state 8 and higher requirements, not height" You could be 200 pounds and still be fat so there's that. Also a multitude of studies show women are by and large attracted to more muscular men. Problem is most jacked guys don't bother too much with fashion and don't buy clothes that highlight their muscles so they go unnoticed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:45 PM
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undoing damage, and not improving Sounds like changing your looks to me, undoing damage is improving. Losing a ton of weight and becoming physically fit is an improvement. Of course there will be guys that are ugly but for most men putting effort into working out, skincare,haircuts and fashion will significantly improve their looks, even unattractive ones. If your really ugly it's not enough, you will literally have to obsess over looks to looks to be somewhat attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:43 PM
4

Most short guys should focus on weightlifting or growing a beard so women still feel protected or secure around them. Being short + ugly/skinny/fat will get you on the fast track to an incel chatroom nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:29 PM
8

Yep I can confirm (1st is Calvin Harris, 2nd is male model Gwilym C Pugh, last was a poster on ugly duckling). 3rd guy was just obese which hides your jaw and cheekbones significantly. All 3 guys worked on their bodies, got great haircuts, improved their skin and wore more fashionable clothes or contacts. IF most guys did this they're looks would go up 2-3 points and they wouldn't have issues pulling girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:52 PM
6

Exactly, all these dudes thinking it's their personality stopping them from getting laid when most attractive guys have worse game or social skills than ugly ones lol. Game will have you approaching women, whereas looking good will have women approaching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:43 PM
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While that is true, they pretty much have male attraction from jaw size to racial preferences outlined. They would be much better off if they actually found a way to put that knowledge to good use. Most men are born thinking looks can't be changed and don't bother working on it. In reality for most people its just working on making sure your skin, hair, body, teeth etc are well groomed and presentable. Would the guys below that went from incel-tier to male model, be better off with "just cold ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:22 PM
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Maybe because it's part of what makes us men? Yeah there's downsides to everything but it also gives you a lot of strength, confidence, ambition that most men need in various realms of life. Have you seen a low testosterone man? One of the most lost, pathetic people and they also tend to be more suicidal, most men are much better off with it than without it, which is why it's prevalence has persisted in all human societies. Might as well shave the mane off a lion or break the horns off a bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:32 AM
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I'd rather the shame of having too many options than the shame of having none.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:18 AM
4

Being on your best behaviour and a eager to help goody two shoes, is something that will telegraph neediness to most women. Back in the 50's you could get away with this but in 2020? Good luck. "and if declined he doesn't stop seeing you." I mean come on..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:38 AM
19

Sounds like a simp to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:32 AM
5

Yeah this guy doesn't know what he's saying. It's like an NFL player going to a coach and saying "What can you tell me about football, You never even started in college". A lot of guys that get laid might be naturally attractive or social and don't really know too much abut the dynamics behind why they get laid, same way a NFL MVP might be an athletic freak but know little behind strategies behind winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:37 AM
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I mean they'll tell you pretty generic, run-of-the-mill male dating advice like "be confident, get out and approach more, be yourself and have fun". A lot of them are older guys in LTR and don't understand the dynamics of OLD or social media in 2020. The only advice men in this generation need is unfortunately pretty blackpilled. Look as good as possible. Get a quality haircut, use top shelf skin-care products, build muscle, buy stylish clothes, whiten your teeth etc. if you apply all of these p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:29 AM
5

Have you ever walked in a university lecture for STEM majors? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:08 AM
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Nope, most men take full responsibilities if they did cheat, can't think of any prominent male figure that publicly blamed their cheating on lack of sex. Whereas women come with "I was drunk, he pressured me, we took a break", pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:21 AM
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If a women wants to tie down a HVM she needs to realize that he will often be desired by women other than her. Also don't let BP trash make you think these girls are innocent. Many of them cheat despite much lower sex drives and even when they do half of them try and blame their SO for not being emotionally available enough or some bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:36 AM
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Most men that are bad with women do have their shit together. Usually nerdier, calmer and more studious introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:27 AM
1

That's literally what my argument is supporting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:29 PM
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bunch of drunk chicks out partying for a bachelorette party The hell are you saying, 90% these girls are college age going for a night of rounds, who tf is getting married? Also here he is getting numbers of sober women, in broad daylight without talking, speaking of comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:53 PM
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And his height, he looks to be around 6'2 - 6'3. He's a walking affirmation of the importance of looks in dating. Regardless if Conor Murphy had a dad bod and tried this the reaction would 100% be significantly less receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:38 PM
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Women can do all of that online now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 09:44 PM
5

Zac Efron in that picture is not what most people envision of "dad-bod". He's still jacked enough to tell that he works out regularly, only major difference is now he has body hair. An actor with an actual dad bod is Leaonardo Dicaprio, dude was poster boy for the bod when it began in 2015. Furthermore women will only say they prefer dad-bod's as a pre-preemptive rejection towards Chads, as they feel intimidated/insecure by with men great physiques. Watch literally any Conor Murphy video in publ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 09:34 PM
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Right? I feel like less attractive women have more resentment towards men and this could be a reason. As OP said she has used this form of rejection before and was treated poorly by men in the past. Rejecting a guy harshly probably makes them feel like they've redeemed themselves from the previous times men have ignored them, plus they're likely more skeptical of men. If you tell a beautiful women she's beautiful she'll say thank you, but say it to an average women and she'll look at you weird. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:11 AM
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Nope, regular club setting. I don''t approach women idk in public cause I don't like inconveniencing people and most chicks will have a creepy impression of you, due to PC culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:06 AM
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Nothing too severe, just the common , "I'm not even going to acknowledge your existence and completely ignore your open handshake" stare in the other direction, common with women these days. Funny enough the hotter 8's were a lot more reasonable and fair with their rejections than the 6's and 7's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:56 AM
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I have never seen men treated so harshly Must not go out enough. I've seen women respond to respectful approaches from men by making shooing hand gestures, showing faces of utter disgust or literally running away. Then they turn around to laugh about this with their group of friends a foot away from the guy. Females turn a simple rejection into a celebration of ego, then ask "Why are guys so afraid of approaching?".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:41 AM
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Not that hard of a concept to grasp bro. You can make the same argument for virginity. If you're a women and a virgin your seen as having values and more men would want to commit to you but if men are virgins they're awkward losers. Being a virgin as a women is more difficult because men approach girls constantly so its more commendable, on the other hand any man can be a virgin it takes no effort. Things that are seen as easy do not garner respect from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:27 PM
6

You're completely ignoring a umber of false accusations and the fear it has created between men when interacting with female colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:14 PM
6

Go on social media and you'll see women by the boatload objectifying themselves for cheap male attention. Aside from a humorless caption there is nothing to display except their photo-shopped body in order to garner likes and follows, mostly from men that they wouldn't touch. That's why they're the ones stocking up on cosmetics, getting butt shots and putting on push up bras. You cannot deny that many women desire male validation and attention even from men they're not attracted to because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:28 PM
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Also MeToo has made people ever more hesitant to be bold or put themselves out there while dating. Now even starting a conversation with a cute women will get you side-eyed by a significant portion of females. Due to the internet, Gen Z and every generation after will be more quiet and introverted, dating like everything else overtime will be done primarily online and looks will only grow in importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:09 PM
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Women don't mind objectifying themselves for money, status or power over men. That's why they dress in sexually provocative or revealing clothing, whereas men wouldn't be caught dead wearing that. Heck social media can get women in 2020 more social validation and male attention in a week than women 50 years ago would've gotten in a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:58 PM
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It's deeper than getting laid, to most men it's about missing out on the most fundamental social developments in life. If men can't "get laid" how are they going to get a girlfriend, get married, start a family? How come its "on them" to fix it when guys go through problems but for female issues society propagates massive social campaigns, provides funding and criticizes men for not helping out or causing said issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:37 AM
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I mean women do have higher standards compared to men, there is literally a biological imperative for them to have this so it makes sense. Reproduction for women involves a complete body transformation, possibly death and they have a limited supply of eggs so they have to be careful with who they sleep with to make sure they can provide for them and their child. On the flip side many men do not put too much effort into their looks as BP society tells them "looks don't matter/it's just confidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:02 PM
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Nope, just biology. As a man we tend to value status over looks anyhow and most women will get over looks if your status is high enough. Plus women still find men attractive (though it's a higher standard) and if your attractive/famous enough as a guy you could have millions of women screaming in your presence. PS a lot of lesbians date girls that look and act like men and fornicate with a strap so we can't be THAT unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 01:09 PM
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Not true at all. The love a man has for his brothers,friends, comrades is completely different from the love he has for a lover,girlfriend,wife. Same terminology, distinct meaning and contexts. Can't even compare the two honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:29 AM
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Those who have these complaints usually 'struggle with women' Meh, I've heard this same rhetoric from womanizers and guys with wives/girlfriends as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:06 PM
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Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19883140/ Explains the disparity between genders in fields like STEM vs Nursing. Of course there are plenty of exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:00 PM
8

A lot of girls are interested in people, while guys are interested in things. This causes a divide in skills or conversational topics. A lot of times guys would like to talk to their girls about a sports teams, cars or politics but instead have to sit though her more personal topics like "You won't believe what Kayla did at work today", reality TV drama or gossip regarding her friends. In addition to this a lot of men do not find women funny, meaning significantly less entertaining talks. Part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:35 PM
8

A pretty face, nice body, and low amount of years on this earth cannot be. Make-up, gym and skincare routines. I've seen this turn 5's to 8's easily. Heck just having a nice ass and thighs as a female can take you a looong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:33 AM
3

In most Western or first-world countries it is legal to sleep with a 16 year old. It's only certain states in the U.S. that believe that 18 is the legal age, but then again this is the same country that will allow men to die in war at 18 but not sip a beer until 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:01 AM
1

What would you say is the biggest problem with your face? Eyes make or break you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:45 PM
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Nope, men often have to reach a certain looks, status or charismatic threshold to differentiate themselves from other men, as females are attracted to hypergamy and will always date up, look at the 80/20 rule. Asking a girl on a date doesn't mean anything, a good chunk of the time they may flake, ignore a text or just say no. It's like saying why can't most guys dunk ,just run and jump? There's a lot more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:42 AM
0

With men divide by 3, with women multiply by 3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:32 PM
10

Men are also to blame for this, considering they have chivalrous behavior that they reinforce themselves. BP culture is responsible for this, RP'ers who women tend to dislike, have been saying that modern women don't even like or appreciate chivalry and to treat them equally like any other stranger. Either way most men are beginning to realize that just because someone has a vagina, doesn't mean that you should to put your life in danger to save them. At the end of the day if that ship is going …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:52 PM
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I mean it doesn't surprise me that they think this way. A lot of women were raised to believe that they can hit men and with no repercussions. Imagine how entitled you have to be to think you can hit anybody and literally not be touched, even kids wouldn't dare. On one hand they want big, strong men to come in and risk our lives to protect them, then on the same token they're saying women are just as tough and independent as men and don't need rescuers or to be saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:45 PM
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Facts. Anyone that believes this look at the difference in sexual partners between gay men and lesbians, dispels this myth completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 09:02 AM
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That is simply because so many women today are insecure or damaged that you'd get more girls this way than the other way around. I mean what else would you call girls that objectify themselves on social media or Tinder for social validation, are more obsessed with butt shots, fake breasts, botox or make up while pushing overweight and body hair acceptance movements etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:34 AM
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A lot of guys waste their 20's, a time meant to take risks, meet new people and learn new things, to put their energy into an unfulfilling relationship with a "you don't spend enough time with me" type chick, they end up breaking up with later anyways. Just to realize in their 30's that they don't have too many friends, memorable experiences or job advancement. A lot of relationships can be amazing but a lot are absolutely soul draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 11:05 PM
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Considering the average amount of time, energy and money the average guy puts into just getting laid in 2020, I'd say short-term plates is far from a waste. Having multiple chicks you could hit up for sex would save a man a lot of hoop-jumping. Also sometimes men don't want a connection or a relationship, which can in their own way be plenty time consuming, or at least more so than a couple plates that you could easily hit up for chill, fun sex. Dating is overrated and a waste in and of itself f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 10:26 PM
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Being a nice guy is not a metal illness requiring legitimate therapy, it's just an awkward stage some guys enter when they've been mislead to think you get a girl by being her friend for half a decade, as result of terrible BP (Not RP) dating advice. RP preaches being honest with your intentions, having confidence and working on yourself as oppose to obsessing over a girl. Funny enough this would be advice most therapists would likely give you. I can guarantee that the RP has gotten rid of much …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 09:22 PM
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What a crock of BS. Women practically celebrate rejecting men. I can recall dozens of time seeing women dismiss an approaching guy with a scoff, shooing hand motion or a plain old "Ew.." and then turn around to laugh about said interaction with their group of friends. The worst I've seen a guy reject a girl was with an awkward face and a "gotta go". Women often use rejection as an I'm-out-of-your-league ego boost, guys simply don't want that specific women around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 01:06 AM
2

This is horrible advice, they should be telling ugly guys to do anything in there power (gym, skincare routines, better clothes, nice haircuts) to get them more attractive. The problem with men is that they think looks cannot be changed, and don't bother. Look at Calvin Harris' before and after, he wasn't born attractive but worked towards it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:20 AM
3

Yeah, too bad you're also more likely to lose half of your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:01 AM
3

Most of these girls rushing men are more excited for the wedding than the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 07:42 AM
5

Are u aware that you don't have to marry someone to do that? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 07:40 AM
1

Yeah all those men lying about their kid's paternity, child support estimations and sexual assaults. Women rarely lie, they're the honest ones lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:26 AM
1

Ive asked some female acquaintances in the past. Heck you can goo on YouTube and see for yourself what they say. Also Men are honest with what they want form women, it's one of the first things girls learn about guys, like literally go on YouTube and you will see the difference in answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:58 AM
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Thats gonna be every man's problem soon. Dating apps get more popular every year and every year approaching women you don't know becomes more looked down upon. Technology is replacing everything and dating is no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 01:20 AM
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Some men are surprised looks matter because society BP's them so much and preaches that looks don't matter or that personality matters more. Fast forward 20 years and the average looking dude get a hard to swallow RP after getting 0 matches on Tinder lol. Also half the women you ask will say "Looks don't matter, I value personality" instead of just being straight up. BP will not tell you the extent that looks, RP'ers have known for years. When men find out how much they matter,they felt lied to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:27 PM
1

Just on paper it seems quite intrusive for a government to implement and would be viewed as somewhat invasive for what's typically a private issue. In addition to this it would be quite expensive and time consuming to actually put into place. Also a lot of people in relationships would not like "Guilty until proven Innocent" vibe mandatory paternity tests put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:54 PM
1

Find me 1 credible study showing that men rate women harsher, until then take that study.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:35 PM
6

Men are born blue pilled and taught to idolize women, advised to never harm a girl under any circumstances, getting raised by single mothers in part due to the biased court systems, and educated by mostly female teachers with more feminine codes of conduct. Women are told that their princesses, beautiful no matter what and that they're deserving of a Prince Charming for simply existing. You can literally witness drops in testosterone and sperm count in men as time progresses, it's actually comic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:38 AM
5

If by consuming you mean giving them an advantage in the SMV lol. You can say it cock-blocks but a lot of men would approach them less if they weren't wearing it in the first place. What really consumes women and cock-blocks men is Social Media. Where a 5 or 6 could garner a million followers, an endless supply of male attention and an inflated ego by sticking out her ass enough and utilizing basic photo-shop. It's also shown to have poor effects on mental health for both genders. As society bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:25 AM
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No lol, men prefer young women because biologically they had the best chances of fertility and baring healthy kids. Most older men absolutely hate talking to younger girls. Men find women 18-24 hotter because they typically have clearer faces, nicer bodies and are thinner. Study: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:01 AM
1

Yeah right, Ron Jeremy was one of the most prominent male pornstars of all time and was working frequently throughout the 2000's and he's below average if we're being polite. Women often complain that men in straight porn are quite unattractive. Obviously if you regulated it legally you couldn't just leave without paying, just make them pay beforehand lol. I haven't even heard of men not paying strippers, that's a sure way to get your ass kicked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:47 AM
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If a small amount of men are sleeping with a large quantity of women it will further the spread of STD's within both groups. If you have 1 men sleeping with 100 women and the 10th women has an STD the remaining women will get it. Whereas if you have 100 men and 100 women it will spread much more slowly among the whole group. Also the study you referenced still shows that women have multiple times the cases of Chlamydia then men in both age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 12:35 AM
3

Yeah right. Women listed 80% of men as being unattractive according to an online dating study. Can't make this stuff up, its literally the 80/20 rule in effect before our eyes. I mean women have so many requirements for men on height, muscle mass, income even astrology sign. You can lie on PPD all you want but you can't find any credible study showing men rate women harsher than the other way around. Link to OkCupid Study: https://www.yourtango.com/2016285828/women-find-80-percent-men-unattracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:51 PM
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This is just the 80/20 rule put into place. Also explains the increase in STD's in recent years despite Millennial's and Gen Z having record low rates of sexual activity. People hate TRP for good reason but you can't deny that they predicted this years ago while all the BP'ers were calling them delusional or saying they lacked basic knowledge on dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:56 PM
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Many men engage in casual sex with women they do not personally favour or may even dislike and often avoid them after said encounter. OLD is also just as shallow for most men. Women are only selecting off of whose the most physically attractive and care little about the mans personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:53 PM
2

Well allow me to provide evidence All the countries listed as having the lowest prominence of online dating (Germany, Austria, Italy) are regions where prostitution is legal whereas those with highest use of online dating (China, U.S. Canada) are ones in which it is outlawed. https://www.benzinga.com/tech/20/01/14629222/9-countries-using-online-dating-the-most Ofcourse there is not an abundance of evidence related in this particular topic but I'd prefer it over a reddit users personal experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:47 PM
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A lot of men (as claimed by FDS types) are only looking for casual sex anyways, especially when it comes to online dating and are actively avoiding relationships, so I don't think this would exactly hurt their cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:29 PM
2

Average starting price of a prostitute in Amsterdam is 50 euros. Lets say the average sex worker in there is a 7. To smash a 10 the starting price if were being generous is 3 times as much at 150 euros, that would still not be anywhere near 5-10x the financial price to take a women on a date not even factoring the effort, time and energy,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:23 PM
1

All of the countries you named have lower usage of online dating compared to other Western nations prostitution is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:15 PM
1

Haaaaa thats a funny joke. I've seen straight 6's and 7's with 300,000+ IG followers simply because they were willing to stick out their ass in every picture, many are practically naked online already and half of "IG 10's" are prostitutes on the low anyways. Shit, there are plenty of overweight women with millions of followers simply due to fetishization. Literally any decent looking women can get 100,000 followers if they're wiling to whore themselves out enough, which shows you how bad the SMV…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:05 PM
1

This is like arguing whether men are stronger than women. My argument as to why men are stronger is they have denser bones, more muscle mass and weigh more. His "argument" is stating "I know many women who have beat up men". Granted evidence is needed but one is making an effort towards a clear rational conclusion whereas the other is just someone saying something. Also a quick Google search shows that countries where prostitution is outlawed have on average higher Tinder usage rates than nation…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:59 PM
1

By giving women a massive incentive to look as attractive as possible and make thousand of dollars a day. You could make the same argument for prostitution or pornography and neither industry has trouble attracting very good-looking women. If you live in a country where it is illegal and your only option is sketchy backpage hookers then this can be a difficult concept to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:51 PM
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You can literally say the same thing about strippers or pornstars, who are just prostitutes that are willing to have sex and post it online. It's just a matter of money. There are many things women may find creepy or revolting but would still do for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:45 PM
1

There are many pornstars who are just "prostitues on camera" that are 10's which many guys have no problem fantasizing to. Many stripclubs have 10's working, who would have no issue getting paid for sex. Any region with lax or legal prostutution has tons of hot women available (Mexico, Eastern Europe, Amsterdam etc) in the sex workers industry. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 07:38 PM
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Yeah your one person going of your limited personal experience, you can't really generalize the effects of legalized prostitution on the dating dynamics of an entire country. To really know it's effects there would need to be quantifiable study not a bunch of strangers on PPD saying "yeah bro, I live there dudes are still thirsty, trusttt". I'm just bringing up points I think are logical to explain why it may work as opposed to relying on personal anecdotes, of which cannot even be proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:36 AM
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Right, keeping it illegal is just honestly hurting women more than anybody unfortunately. Better to have it regulated than leaving it in the hands of human traffickers. Also porn is just prostitution but worse. Your still paying for sex but now your filming and distributing it, but that's perfectly fine somehow? Imagine how messy it would be if we had an illegal porn industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:17 AM
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Yeah those are just personal anecdotes from complete internet strangers, half of which are against it already. I could say the exact opposite, doesn't hold much water. I wouldn't believe a clam like that until I saw an actual tangible study on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:12 AM
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There's a misconception here that hideous loners are the only men that partake in paid sex. "Prideful" male billionaires, celebrities, politicians, heck even Dan Bilzerian have all experienced it on multiple occasions, while it was still illegal mind you. Legalizing prostitution wouldn't necessarily raise a man's SMV but rather lower a women's. Now that guys have actually gotten laid by top looking females, I honestly don't think most men will be out there obsessing over women online as much. Le…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:07 AM
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I think legalizing prostitution may help. If you could regularly, legally and safely pay to smash 10's IRL, you would have a lot less guys obsessing over 7's and 6's on Instagram and Tinder, the same way women won't consider average men if they have male models in their DM's. People say that legalizing prostitution would help men no more than pornography but despite porn's obvious issues, I guarantee men in modern times would be much better off with it then without it, as we can see in countries…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 10:42 AM
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I think it has less to do with female validation and is more about experiencing genuine love or having a real relationship with someone of the opposite sex. You can't just tell most men to get over one of the most fundamental developments in human social life. It's like saying get over finding a partner, getting married or having a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 10:34 AM
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Or you hear what your want to hear. I think people try to minimize the risk by telling advising women certain things. Same way a buddy might tell you to hide your watch or not wear expensive clothes a sketchy neighborhood. Others suggest precautionary advice to women like they do for other crimes and it can be taken differently but I don't think their intent is always negative or misogynistic per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 06:56 AM
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It it's bad for everyone involved why are so many RP men trying to attain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 08:13 PM
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I mean yeah most TRP men actively try and work towards being men with higher SMV and may even look to them as role models. They have more resentment for betas or FDS types for parading and promoting horrendous advice for dating and male self-development for decades. The fact that OP claims to have been RP but not even notice this makes me wonder if he even understood it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:54 PM
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" What man does give a fuck about jewelry? " Are you suggesting men don't factor a woman's ability to buy us shit when trying to decide who to date?? No way, that would mean we aren't too hypergamous, crazy talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:00 AM
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You think she's buying jewelry, flights and clothing for the attractive gym trainer or servicemen she's sleeping with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 08:39 AM
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Most men are by nature not hypergamous and most women are. That's why so many female professors/lawyers/doctors remain single. To most men having a female who earns more than them does nothing in terms of attractiveness and may even be a negative. You can suggest men are hypergamous in looks but even then females practice hyergamy in both looks and status. "A rich man can take a broke girl and change her life, a rich woman will not look in a broke man's direction"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:42 AM
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No matter what your take is, there is always some woman on PPD to use her personal experience to try and dismiss a valid point. "That's not true, I don't _____________ !" They're just lying because it's easier than admitting that TRP was right about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 06:57 AM
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Makes sense. The amount of successful six-figure earning, mediocre men I've seen with hot wives matches this. Women are more willing to look significantly more attractive than a man if the man is earning significantly more than them, like a tradeoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:18 PM
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Look at any divorced celebrity or business mogul past 40. Forget midlde-aged guys, Hugh Hefner was known as the biggest player in history and he was in his 70's. Men value looks in women and women value status in men. For women, typically the older they get the less attractive they become, but for men the older they get the higher their salaries. Considering that a lot of the people talking about the wall are nerdy virgins who typically do well in corporate settings, this isn't too far fetched o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 02:10 AM
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I mean if their definition of winning is for women to be single for the rest of their lives then OP is spot on. If winning to them is "not being quite as bad as staying in a shitty relationship" thats a pretty low bar, being single is something that literally anyone can achieve. It's like aiming for 1st place, finishing 7th place but thinking you won the race cause you didn't come dead last.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 01:51 AM
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Men are't bitter with the burden of performance in general. Furthermore pregnancy and birth is a poor comparison because it's not something that women compete with one another with. A much more realistic analogy for women would be the burden of beauty, and judging by the increase in trends of plus size models, female body hair and criticism of unrealistic beauty standards etc. I'd say women are pretty bitter about their burden too. I mean thousands of grown adult women are actively trying to end…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:49 PM
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I mean just look at most girls once you strip away all their make up. Throw away the filters, mascara, foundation etc and your left with a pretty normal looking person. Women just spend more time and energy on beauty and appearance, look at the difference in plastic surgery between the genders. A mans libido also inflates attraction too. I remember as a kid only wanting to go out with like 2 girls in my grade to being in high-school and willing to bang a third of the chicks in my class.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 04:37 PM
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Yeah 40% of domestic violence victims are male and women are more likely to be verbally and physically aggressive towards their partners than men, so that argument is laughable. Also a public gym is the last place on earth where a man would assault a women, lest he gets his ass kicked, banned for life and arrested. Newsflash most people issues were ignored by society. You act like men had it easy. Most males in history were pretty much expected to fight to death and die in a the most violent man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:20 PM
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Women's shelters, Women-Only Hours at gyms, widely promoted social awareness movements aimed at solving primarily female issues (pay gap, bulimia). I mean look at the difference in focus society pays to breast cancer as opposed to prostate cancer? They have no problems segregating men from female only sectors, while also preaching for boyscouts, armies or male sporting programs to become more accepting and accommodating to females.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:12 PM
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Men are typically competitive with one another and also don't feel as comfortable sharing their weaknesses and problems to other men or even close friends at times. We can reach out to other men for advice but not to console with, even young boys know to run to their mothers if they're hurt and need help. Many men would feel uncomfortable crying in a room full of other males, whereas women would be much more willing. I can't really think of any vastly male gathering (boyscouts, sports, armies) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 08:30 PM
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Same reason you get nervous before a job interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:01 AM
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Exactly it's funny to come on here everyday and see women complain about how men aren't respectful, caring, sensitive or don't coddle their every inconvenience but IRL they avoid these men like the plague. It's complete BS, this is why people say women don't know what they want. You look around and everyone getting laid throws that out the window and presents a macho, more masculine persona these girls on here claim to be toxic. Heck all the guys doing great with women (athletes, PUA's, "doucheb…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 03:58 AM
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Jeeze if your this desperate to get laid you might as well hang it up, yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:46 PM
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Really? I think most girls would be a lot more familiar with they're parents divorcing and having limited time and visitations with their fathers, who were once a big part of their lives. Likely because their mother (who has more legal advantage in family courts, simply due to her gender) was focused more on gaining primary custody, alimony and child support as opposed to maintaining that fatherly presence crucial for healthy childhood development. I don't even know of any trend where a signific…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:55 AM
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"#1 thing girl friends complain about with the men they're with". The fact that these girls dated guys who they think "don't care about them" should tell you something. On the contrary a common complaint women have about men they're *not* with is that they came on too strong, were needy, or desperate. The last thing women want is a creepy guy which is typically classified as too strong too soon. Half the things your grandfather or dad did to get a girl (send a dozen roses to his crush who didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 02:23 AM
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"small number of women who were with him..." He literally has millions of women who follow him and likely thousands who if given the chance would sleep with or date him, don't try and dismiss that. It's easy to understand why women are turned off by computer scientists that only want a wet hole but celebrate and chase violent criminals who want the same exact thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 01:32 AM
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Sure there studies that show: ​ Psychopathic men have a personality style that makes them attractive to women despite having a reduced interest in committed relationship: https://www.psypost.org/2019/10/new-study-suggests-psychopathic-men-have-a-personality-style-that-makes-them-attractive-to-women-54676 ​ Women find happy guys significantly less sexually attractive than swaggering or brooding men: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110524070310.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 01:28 AM
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I believe you but that's your own personal experience. Not saying CS programmers can't get married or find partners just that they attract and have less female partners than convicts. On the contrary I've come across several "sketchy" men who have multiple children with multiple women, cheat on their girlfriends or have several women on rotation. Haven't met one CS student with the same qualities, though I'm sure they exist just not to the same degree as convicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 12:21 AM
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Are they? Most virgin programmers will take what they can get. I've seen convicts pull normal working class women frequently, heck its quite common for them to sleep with or impregnate their female CO's. I mean look at Jeremy Meeks, his first wife was a working nurse who had his child, while in prison his mugshot came out and he gathered millions of vastly female followers and he then went on to marry and impregnate a billionaire heiress after being released. He fits all the criteria listed to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 12:16 AM
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Those ~heroic~ dudes you see celebrated that sacrifice their life or whatever, like I remember a guy that shielded two girls in that shooting a few years back - we're led to believe it's the norm but the reason they get recognized is more bc they're less common. No those men exist, it's just that they've noticed women aren't necessarily attracted to said men. Women are more attracted to men who are less invested in them and carry a "confident" non-caring persona that indicates that they don't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:47 PM
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Yeah I mean I know plenty of guys who yell or say out of line things to their girlfriends, that make even me feel a little uncomfortable or perhaps intervene. Nobody's saying Non-abusive men don't have success with women, its just on average if you have a guy that's seems like an ass (tattoos, criminal record, confrontational) they will typically have more female partners on average than their polar opposite (normal dressing, studious, timid). Generally speaking convicts get more action than com…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:12 PM
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Not everybody using a dating app is trying to get casual sex, certainly not all women at that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:43 PM
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I mean anyone that thinks women are not more selective than men has never been on a dating app lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:39 PM
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No ones saying attractive guys can't be creepy. The difference is an ugly guy wouldn't have even gotten past the "where do you live?" question, if the conversation even got that far. No women would tolerate a fraction of this behavior from an ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:35 PM
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