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Then he started being able to spin plates once he embraced AWALT, female nature and hypergamy. Yeah, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 06:15 PM
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I think you are associating Red Pill with alt right. There is an overlap. They are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:04 PM
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I'd have to make sure that my son is around girls often enough that he doesn't treat them like aliens - like TRPers often seem to do. He just treats them like other humans, and if by chance he's not particularly successful sexually - he at least wont be bitter and hateful. I'll also try to force out male entitlement to that end. As for a daughter, teach her to not be as gullible as many women who fall for red pill manipulation tactics are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:02 PM
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Men have to go to whatever it takes to receive the money for their partners pleasure in areas they hate such as mining, oil riging, programming, law, military work, god knows what... Fuck off. Men do that for money. She doing what she likes means that she will earn less. That's the trade off most peple have to do, male or female. Your 'men are victims' narrative is disgusting and pathetic. And not rooted in reality. Work is not about fun, but it shouldn't make you hate your life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:05 PM
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"At what age should a woman like me just give up and accept a job she is “meh” about?" If you have no passion for a field, I would suggest leaving it. It's not easy to switch I guess, you probably have to go back to school. But is there anything you can think of that you are truly passionate about? I must say though that 24 is not at all too late to change a career. That is insanity! Many people START working at 22, 23.. some at 24. You think no one ever changes their field? A lot of people do. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 07:12 PM
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No I think male celibacy is rising because less men make an effort to get partners, becuase there are so many distractions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:20 PM
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I'm looking for red flags to spot and break up probably. Who the fuck actively looks for red flags? If you come across a red flag, then you will see it. It's called a red flag for a reason. She probably just wanted to see his photos. Yeah I'm sure you've never seen photos of random girls /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:14 PM
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Dating is like that there because women don't have enough options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 09:12 PM
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Women don't only want masculine men. Women like guys who are attractive, confident, mature, humorous, fit, smart... What does any of this have to do with toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:41 PM
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The Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:37 PM
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How do you find places like this at 17? Dont get involved in these bitter ideologies when you are still a kid. It's normal to feel upset about being rejected. Just don't let that bitterness get to you and develop into misogyny. You are getting rejected? Fine, work on yourself. Don't think that women owe you something, thats just male entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 07:50 PM
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Yes, it's definitely important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 07:49 PM
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Lol yeah, super convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 10:03 PM
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I don't know, maybe? Sometimes. I met my boyfriend at a party at a college bar. I mean otherwise you'd find them at work maybe but maybe you don't have anyone you like there. Church maybe but there are hardly any men there. Just hanging out with friends maybe but it could you don't have that much time and aren't interested in anyone in your near circle. So if all of that doesn't work then you are looking for a stranger, and in a place where its socially acceptable and even expected that men will…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 10:03 PM
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Ultimately, if women were satisfied with the men who ask them out in real life, they wouldn't choose online dating. Thus, online dating seems to be full of low-value women who still think that they deserve to be with a rich doctor. Maybe we are busy and don't hang around bars and clubs all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:34 PM
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You very, very clearly are. Don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 03:09 PM
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Percent of people dating? Idk, seems obvious... If people are having a bad time dating they'll just.. not date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 02:13 PM
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Because the relationship got boring. It's really the same reason as why men do it, although I suppose it's more emotional and not purely sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 02:10 PM
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He's high profile within Intel. He's the CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 07:24 AM
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'Non High Profile'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 07:20 AM
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Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 07:16 AM
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lol, no they haven't. It's only if its a high profile case that they lose their job. And being killed? gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 06:58 AM
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Anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 05:34 AM
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So basically I'm not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 05:33 AM
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I don't. Maybe its different in the midwest. Going to court and saying you were raped is difficult and many women rather just not do it than be known to be a rape victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:22 PM
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That's kind of fair. But that punishment should only be given if it's absolutely 100% clear that the accusation was false, which should not be the case in most rape cases. Otherwise you will just be discouraging women from coming forward even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:43 PM
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Women don't have a stigma about being raped by a man that other women find attractive. Actually it seems to be the opposite. "He just couldn't control himself around me. I was so desirable to him!" This is so wrong. This is like those cheesy romance novels with the men ripping women's clothes off of her. A large number of women seem to have a sick rape fantasy about powerful or attractive men. This just shows a bad understanding of women. We can have fantasies without desiring it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:39 PM
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More bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:29 PM
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Is it really enough for him to lose his job? I don't think most people will even be fully aware of it unless its within the workplace, and even then the male might get away with it if he does well in his job. I don't think this scenario is nearly as common as you'd like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:28 PM
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Thanks for your contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 06:41 PM
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Things are definitely better for most women now than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 10:09 PM
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Going to college was the big event for me. I was in a conservative town with a conservative group of friends before going to college. And I only realized how suffocating, hypocritical and toxic that whole culture was after making friends with more progressive minded people in college. I got to see the great benefits of diversity, sexual freedom and gender equality. That made me more 'blue'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:24 PM
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Have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 06:02 AM
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I don't really want to get married until we fix it. As it is marriage is kind of broken for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 01:58 AM
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Apparently not displaying enough toxic masculinity. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 01:57 AM
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This pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 01:57 AM
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Well they would be wrong to infer it. After all, I was not complaining that he would use me as an outlet for his emotional frustration, but rather the contents of his frustration. Like how his parents would not buy him a car even though he would never talk to them even if they were unwell. Like how the university was so unfair to him even though he had cheated in an exam. Like how his best friend who no longer talked to him was a traitor even though he had betrayed him first. Things like that. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 04:58 AM
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Yeah I agree that women are willing to tolerate a lot of things if the man is hot enough. Which makes me wonder if men looking at these hot men think that toxic masculinity is good because those men are behaving as such, whereas in reality they are behaving like that because they can get away with it, not because it's attractive. I don't really know what aspects of masculinity are attractive. As I said, confidence, humor, charisma are things both men and women should have and I don't consider th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 03:17 AM
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I was agreeing with you. Where we diverge is that I believe that social conditioning can trump biological nature. So if we don't need masculinity we can just teach boys differently, drive it out of our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 02:03 AM
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War was waged because of low resources and rogue nations. We can achieve perpetual peace now. America has not seen war in our cities since.. the civil war? So 'masculinity' is not necessary at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:24 PM
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They go for average and below average women. Japan is a more traditional society. Women here give more cues, and men can still approach. They'll still have a sex drive. If men and women are both friendly with one another, and both have sex drives, people will end up having sex. That's what happens in college. None of the college boys I know embrace toxic masculinity in a drive to get with girls. They just have exposure and good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 04:19 PM
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I think women will be attracted to attractive men regardless of if they behave in a toxically masculine way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 04:08 PM
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You can do anything you want. Cultural norms and psychology trumps biology any day, and we can change cultural norms and psychology. It's all about childhood development. If boys are taught that its girly to cry and show weakness, then boys will grow up making fun of weak boys, and exerting dominance over them. That continues to their adulthood, and it shapes society. When men behave like men, sensitive, caring and open, they are finger pointed by feminist as harmful. i don't see evidence of tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:45 PM
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Promiscuity leads to single parenthood, which is AWFUL for a child's development. It leads to maybe getting pregnant, which leads to abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:38 PM
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Men continue to teach toxic masculinity to each new generation because they subscribe to obsolete ideas of what makes someone a man. Feminists don't want to alienate men. They want to integrate them as healthy members of society. men are sensitive, caring, and open If they are, they get made fun of by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:35 PM
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I don't know why people make a big deal about partner count. It has no impact on your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:19 PM
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No. They should be raised with new ideas of how to be men. More sensitive, caring, open.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:18 PM
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No problem lol. I'm probably in agreement with 'lookism.' I think most couples will mostly be 'looks matched.' Thats what I see most of the time. So that's why I don't really buy into the whole 'women like toxic masculinity' thing. Women like the man who is around as attractive as we are, or more attractive. Same as men, I believe. Herek, G. M. (1994). "Assessing heterosexuals' attitudes toward lesbians and gay men". In B. Greene and G. M. Herek (Eds.) Psychological perspectives on lesbian and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:17 PM
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Social constructivism just hasn't gone far enough. Systems are designed for humans, yes. And the system we have doesn't work for young men or women, and a large part of the problem is the culture that males have in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:03 PM
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Yeah thats part of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:02 PM
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Well with a name like 80_20, you would believe that wouldn't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 03:02 PM
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Rape fantasies are different than submission. Women can fantasize about something without wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:05 PM
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Women end up in 'submissive' roles a lot in BDSM communities, and I believe it's a remnant of toxic views of sexuality. Everyone is effected by their environment. Many women live in such environments and end up damaged, only to then become the submissives of some man and be further taken advantage of. People all have varying degrees of agency, and can also be manipulated and taken advantage of to varying degrees. This is true of everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 07:13 PM
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Of course she left if you were treating her as a 'submissive.' These are all just damaged girls who you are taking advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:51 PM
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I'm only blaming one aspect of it on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:33 PM
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women dont do it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:11 PM
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Half of the comments here have just been male whining and the 'nice guys finish last meme' 'effortlessly slaughtered' lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:07 PM
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Yeah I should have phrased that better. I'm not saying each man being less masculine will make men happier. Them collectively being less traditionally masculine will, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 05:21 PM
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You should be into them. But being into someone shouldn't be solely based on their attraction, otherwise an ugly guy will never find a woman who's willing to be with him, who he's into.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 05:16 PM
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But that's what I said in my original post. I'm not saying that each man has to be less masculine. I'm saying that toxic masculinity as a culture needs to go. Being less traditionally masculine within a culture shaped by toxic masculinity leads to depression and suicide - which might be why homosexuals have greater suicide rates too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 05:13 PM
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98% of rapists are men Even the men who get raped are mostly raped by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 05:11 PM
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If its a full package, then the full package is the problem. I guess it's good that social constructivism is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:48 PM
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Single mothers likely have too much on their table to root out toxic masculinity in their sons. Teachers until recently haven't really assaulted traditional ideas of masculinity as a group. The social constructivist movement is quite new, and it will take a generation to see it's effects. I'm quite hopeful though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:47 PM
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I did say there is toxic femininity, and yeah it manifests itself as relentless competition which drives down the self worth of many girls. This part is independent of men. Where toxic masculinity is involved is that it leads to many girls objectifying themselves to gain more attention. That was something separate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:44 PM
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I live in a college town, so yeah probably more liberals around. But if the men here are successful sexually without having a toxic mindset, that's a model for how society should and could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:40 PM
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Which is perpetuated by men!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:39 PM
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Shaming no. Repression yes. Repressing bad aspects of human nature isnt necessarily bad per se. It's also in 'biological male nature' to rape. We've been repressing that, albeit not perfectly, for a long time now (except marital rape.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:27 PM
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It's uncommon, and something new, and it seems to be in reaction to male objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:44 PM
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It's much harder for women to lose weight than men. The vast majority of obese women have health issues that make it almost impossible to lose weight. The same is not true of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:43 PM
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Things like that are kind of strange. Its like an odd attempt for women to be (toxically) masculine. Like 'oh they objectify us! We should objectify them!' But its definitely something new, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:36 PM
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No we don't. Sexual objectification involves dehumanizing by overly focusing on features like breasts and butts. There is a clear line between what is 'sexy' and what is 'beautiful.' Finding the human body beautiful is fine. There is a distinction, after all, in old nude artwork and modern day porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:30 PM
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Better development and conditioning can offset the negative parts in the biological male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:22 PM
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They see many of us as sexual objects. So with that mindset they will obviously be attracted to women posing in ways that show off their 'assets.'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:21 PM
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How is fat acceptance hurting men and women? What about the men and women, mostly women, who have extreme difficulty losing weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:06 PM
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I dont think its prevalent enough to deserve a label.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:59 PM
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I don't think that's anywhere near as frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:51 PM
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Being horny and attaching your worth to how many girls you are fucking are two separate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:50 PM
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Well thats usually competition with other women. But yeah, toxic femininity certainly exists, and attaching their worth to the attention they are getting from men is certainly a manifestation of it. And it surely leads to a lot of depression in women. So? Toxic masculinity and femininity are both bad. I will say though, that the way men objectify women is a part of toxic masculinity, and so some women - in their quest for attention -like to display themselves as objects. They are both related.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:45 PM
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I think toxic masculinity causes expectations that a man must behave a certain way or be belittled by other men (which in turn reduces his sexual value for patriarchically minded women.) And less masculine men are more likely to find living up to toxic masculine ideals difficult. So you are right about that. But I think the solution is to get rid of toxic masculinity altogether. And yes, most of the things you call 'masculinity' are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:41 PM
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But as you can see, people are disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:39 PM
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It's not bad at all. I know and have been with men who don't have this mindset. They are also happier and nicer to be around than the men who do have this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:38 PM
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It was a cartoon. I didn't make it. The rest of the cartoon was quite accurate. But yes, there is fear when you are alone with strange men all the time. More about rape than murder, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:37 PM
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That's in the UK. Also it gets reversed by 30s which suggests to me that it's just that men enter the workforce later in their 20s. Women don't even go out late. Because getting raped is worse than getting mugged. And nah I'm pretty sure if I went outside in a pink dress I would in fact be judged. That's not even relevant. Women aren't shamed for wearing masculine clothes. We are shamed for wearing 'revealing' or 'provocative' clothing. And even blamed for causing rape if dressed like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:36 PM
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due to factors such as maternity leave In many European countries women get a year off for maternity leave and can then return to their workplace. We could have that in America and that would help the wage gap. Surely we want to incentivize women to have children? So why punish them for it. I also wonder why the work women do has not increased in wages but the work men do has. Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:32 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:29 PM
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i dont think we promote dominant masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:27 PM
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I didn't say TRP created anything. Toxic Masculinity is as old as patriarchy. TRP just promotes these ideas. Now, I'm sure that in the past toxic masculinity = sexual success for men. However, in the past women didn't have much sexual or economic freedom. So all a man needed to do to be sexually successful was dominate other men. Now, I don't believe toxic masculinity attracts women. We like more caring, progressive, sensitive and open men, at least from my experience. They need to have good hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:26 PM
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Who are the losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:55 PM
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self-image or self-esteem issues around romance Well that is concerning to me. And, in my opinion, a significant part of that is caused by toxic masculinity. Boys as early as 14 attach their worth to their sexual prowess. So lack of success in that will lead to those issues. TRP is self improvement. It tells you some important things that might help you be better - being more fit and confident. But it sells all these things alongside the toxic masculinity that has been oppressing the men who com…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:54 PM
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The thing is that TRP are socialists when it comes to sex, they yearn for sexual equality rather than sexual freedom. Which is stupid and misogynist, because it treats women as commodities to be 'redistributed' and shared equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:50 PM
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Attaching your self worth to your success in casual sex is part of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:48 PM
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But don't believe women when we say we don't find this behavior attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:47 PM
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you never want to settle down with anyone when you have tons of options. You don't if you have a toxic masculine mindset that makes you think the ideal life is to keep having lots of casual sex. The most handsome guy I know is in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:46 PM
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They don't have to. I think trying to be what they think is 'masculine' is leading to a lot of pressure on them - and not a lot of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:32 AM
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I dont think they select for these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:30 AM
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Excellent example. They experience toxic masculinity from birth. Boys are taught not to cry or share their emotions - thats what girls do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:30 AM
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I keep hearing this but I don't personally see it. The men having a lot of sex are laid back, pretty nice, helpful, not aggressive, not misogynistic, not antifeminist, not manipulative. The trick is being social and confident. All this other shit are just antiquated ideas of what makes someone masculine, and I don't think it gets men laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:27 AM
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You can be confident and social without being dominant, aggressive, egotistic, misogynistic, completely uninhibited etc. I don't believe TRP gives them good results. They are all so angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:24 AM
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Right. I don't believe biological imperatives are as important as psychological development. I guess many have developed a toxically masculine mindset, which embraces their 'biological imperative.'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:22 AM
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I'm not a prude, I'm not against sexual liberation. It's great for me, its great for everyone. But.. I dont treat men I have sex with as trophies, or as bodies with which to extract sexual pleasure from. There is also no pressure to have a high number of partners. With men, none of this is true. Women are trophies, sexual objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:21 AM
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No. Everyone compromises to not be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:18 AM
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Right.. And divorces aren't caused by toxic masculine behavior? Domestic abuse? Cheating? Emotional abandonment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:18 AM
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And they are both true. I'm not saying men should be masculine at all. They need to do away with that term altogether, it just puts pressure on them. There are ways to be attractive that doesn't involve mimicking antiquated ideas of what makes a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:17 AM
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Most men on TRP have a problem that they are too sensitive and too caring. Huh? The people talking about ghosting women, mistreating them, manipulating them, dreadgaming them, and harassing them are senstitive and caring? I doubt that. That said, I do think these men probably find it diffcult to be masculine to the level that the Toxic masculine society expects them to be. Another reason we should do away with this culture. And I don't like categorizing things as 'feminine' and therefore somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:13 AM
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If you are ugly, there is probably someone uglier. If you are overweight, then there is probably someone more overweight. If you are short, there is probably a girl of the same relative shortness. Almost everyone can find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:07 AM
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Take life more easy, cast away ideas related to toxic masculinity - they make you more pressured. See women as other human beings. Then go socialize. I honestly believe its as easy as that. The only step that may be difficult for unsuccessful males who ARENT plagued with toxic masculinity is the socializing part. But practice makes you better at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:05 AM
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The nature of every person is to find a person to have sex with. You don't HAVE to be polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:00 AM
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As I said, most men that I know that are sexually 'successful' do not display toxic masculinity at all. They are confident, fun, charismatic - sure. But not aggressive, egotistic, dominant, misogynistic etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:59 AM
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I mean, yeah. And I want to have sex with Chris Hemsworth. So what. Not fulfilling desires doesn't lead to significant depression. Not unless there is significant pressure for men. It doesn't have to be direct, I'm not saying that not having casual sex leads to actual bullying or something. But Toxic Masculinity is extremely deeply rooted in many men, and I do believe they feel pressured to participate in the casual sex culture. Otherwise, you can have plenty of sex in one relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:58 AM
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How does it make men second class citizens? I've never heard that before. Men earn 25% more. They can walk safely at night. They can wear whatever they want without being judged. taught that they are all assumed rapists and predators That's just nonsense. Teaching men about consent isn't the same as saying they are rapists. It's teaching that rape is a huge problem in our society - what with 1 in 5 women having experienced rape or assault or molestation - and men have to do their part in dealing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:53 AM
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Are we talking about incels? Incels are like 4% of the male population by the age of 25 I think. Most guys on TRP I think are guys who can get and have gotten long term relationships, but want to break into the casual sex culture. Even most incels can probably find some LTR. The bar for that isn't very high. And yeah I guess many guys probably won't have incredible success with casual sex, but why attach so much worth to having many casual relationships? One can be enough, but other males will l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:47 AM
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The problem is that it's not considered bad by TRP. Being sensitive, open, caring,egalitarian are frowned upon in toxic masculinity. Being dominant, having lots of casual relationships, and being aggressive are considered good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:43 AM
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Almost every one can find a partner. These men all want to be the biggest player around. They want to date hot women. That's why they are alone. They aren't willing to compromise. Furthermore if you approach women with the sole intention to have sex (I mean, these men are willing to enter relationships and things like that but their main aim is sex, as reading through TRP clearly shows), you are less likely to be successful. Seeing women as just other people, will allow you to socialize better a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:38 AM
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I doubt that's the reason. The personalities they exhibit online don't seem very attractive. Its not about men liking attractive women. Male sexuality just gravitates towards unrealistic ideals for women - unrealistic ratios, impossibly smooth features (photoshopped) etc. This leads many women to feel very unattractive, because the ideals are so impossible to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:42 PM
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they don't receive the respect, nor female desire they so desperately desire themselves. They don't receive female desire for THAT reason? Really? There is toxic femininity as well. But I think objectification of women and things like that in our culture which are driven by men play a larger role in female suicide rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 08:43 PM
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I think challenging traditional ideas about gender is a part of feminism and ultimately helps men as well - although that doesn't mean feminists are trying to help men. Feminism is for women - but this movement will ultimately help men as well. It's too bad so few men understand how damaging toxic masculinity is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:10 PM
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It's all about power really. Men have exerted power over women for thousands of years. Education will change this. Anyway I'm not saying ban paternity tests. I'm saying that the assault on paternity fraud is based on power and control. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 06:11 AM
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The main obstacle to such things is society able to view men as possible victims like we do with women. Right, because of toxic masculinity. Anecdotal, but I've heard many men make fun of male victims of DV. It's just how we perceive the male gender. He's supposed to be in a power position above women, so if he's being beaten by her that's something to be mocked. Proper feminism seeks to confront these ideas of power, which would indirectly HELP male DV victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:29 AM
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Because they often don't make their intentions clear, and make the woman think that he actually likes her and will stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:27 AM
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Jesus.. Paternity fraud is a jailable offense? That's ridiculous. That sort of idea really just feels like you are waging war against women, against one of the last forms of power women have over men. It's ridiculous! What about the real FRAUDS that happen a lot lot more than paternity fraud. You know, when men 'pump and dump' and leave a woman with a child to raise on her own? Should those men be jailed? What laws are you achieving against paternity fraud?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:16 AM
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But then you expect men to stand up for female victims? WTF? I don't expect anything of men. Feminists have fought for our rights ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:11 AM
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Not fear, caution. In the short run I think it helps women escape rape and single motherhood. In the long run, I think things are improving due to education. In many schools and universities, traditional ideas about gender are being challenged, and I think with that we will see the negative effects of patriarchy on men finally be removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:09 AM
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Feminism’s sexism is apparent in the contrast between how they address men and women. Namely, primarily negatively vs. primarily positively. Notice how feminists say women reinforce patriarchy too, but they pretty much never criticize women for any of it? Honestly this makes me think you have no idea what you are saying. Feminists target other women MORE if anything. Look at the whole recent episode in Britain. Feminists scored a major victory there by having F1 and boxing ban promo girls. The c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:04 AM
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You are just showing me isolated incidences, not polls. I'm speaking from personal experience. I am in feminist groups, I don't see any opposition to male battered shelters. We don't care about it at all, it never comes up. And 100% of all my friends would not find male victims of domestic abuse something funny. We would say that female victims is a bigger issue an should be dealt with first - since there are many more female victims. But thats the extent of our 'opposition.' I agree that there …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 12:48 AM
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No, we have to realize that what are capable of and what they believe. You won't learn about men from the romance books and movies you watch growing up. The reality is quite different and feminism seeks to tech women about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 12:39 AM
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How does that prove its not true? Just because the reverse happens doesn't mean that the reverse is more common. Something like 90% of rapes are men on women. 9% of the remainder are men on men. Rape is an entirely male thing to do. I don't think its feminisms responsibility to stand up for male victims of rape. That said, reeducation of men so that they can get out of the rape mentality (something feminists promote) will also reduce male on male rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 12:37 AM
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Yeah there is little chance of seeing eye to eye. Although at least you aren't calling me a cunt. Toxic masculinity is kind of an umbrella term, sure. But we also see a lot of these traits in the same 'toxic' men. Or, well, there are several types. The overly masculine man who can't keep his testosterone driven aggression in check, and rapes and beats up women. The bitter incels and lonely men who think society OWES them women. Male entitlement, male aggression, male chauvinism.. All goes under …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:00 PM
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"A nice date" A date he rushed through to get her back to his place. "100% consensual sex" It was not consensual at all. She tried to stop him several times before resigning to the fact that he was going to force her to have sex so she might as well do it. That's not consensual. If a guy was to stop me from leaving and keep asking me constantly for sex I would probably do it just to get it over with. Thats not consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:59 AM
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it could be that a large group of men but not the majority are responsible for most of these things. I doubt that men who are very attractive would do that. And no doubt there are men who are inhibited or kind. But regardless, most women experience it. You can ask here if you want!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:55 AM
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You don't see it that much there either. Certainly not like what you see on red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:54 AM
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We're not hostile to lions, but we recognize what they are. Women need to learn what men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:54 AM
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This is total nonsense and you know it. The main obstacle to battered men's shelters is... TOXIC MASCULINITY. I've seen men making a small deal of a man get hit by his wife/girlfriend!! Paternity fraud isn't a problem women should care about. I personally don't like the idea of paternity tests, but that's your issue, if you feel strongly about it, fight for something to happen for it. What I care about as a woman is to stop the many female victims of MALE FRAUD - the many single women who get le…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:42 AM
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It's not though. 1 in 3 men have indicated that they would rape if they could get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:36 AM
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It's not a lie. The vast vast vast amount of victims of rape are women. MRA is just trying to paint it as an issue that effects both men and women, to detract from the fact that rape is a mostly male thing. Oh and.. most of the men who are raped... are raped by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:35 AM
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Thats not a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:23 AM
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What you said is a false equivalency, but also, I already said I don't agree with the comments she made 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:23 AM
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Male victims make up a very very small percentage of rape victims. While on the topic of toxic masculinity, don't you think that hurts male victims of rape as well? I'm not saying care about our issues. But maybe if you want to address our points, be a little less toxic. The fact that people just wave aside toxic masculinity here makes me think you guys have no idea about anything we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 12:14 AM
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Any average and above woman who goes out, dates and has an active sex life - is very, very likely to have experienced this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:58 PM
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If you are ugly, overweight, butch, or lesbian, being a female probably isn’t the best time. Yeah. Many feminists aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:56 PM
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it’s not about helping men, that’s a convenient side effect that is not focused on, but held up as a noble (but dishonest) rationale I didnt say its a rationale. It certainly isn't. But it is a convenient side effect, and many feminists have mentioned it - which does indicate lack of hostility towards men. You can hate traditional gender based power structures and toxic masculinity without being hostile to all men - EVEN THOUGH most men are a part of it. I think man haters are in the minority, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:49 PM
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Is spending 20 minutes educating yourself about rape really that much of a deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:45 PM
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Why? Why do I have to speak only in statistics. I can say somethng like that and if someone confronts me, find the stats that have influenced my opinion. Like now. Large -> A significant amount of men. When I say a large number of men are rapists or have rapist tendencies, what does that mean to you intuitively? 1%? No. 10%? kind of. 25%? Okay thats a large amount. Well 1 in 3 apparently have said they would rape if they could get away with it. It's only the law that protects us. http://victimso…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:16 PM
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Wanting to teach toxic masculinity courses that institutionalize this mindset is similarly hostile By indifference, I meant indifference to male issues. Feminism does try to systematize and understand masculinity, because understanding that is important to understand the power dynamics between the two genders - power dynamics which very often manifests as oppression of women by male society in general. And enough women have experienced that and identified a bunch of common traits in many men tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:07 PM
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We're just stating the facts about men. If I pointed out that a large amount of men are rapists or have rapist tendencies - is that hostility? If feminism tries to educate women about the predatory nature of men so they can avoid things like that woman had to go through with Aziz Ansari, is that hostility? Feminists dont hate men, we just state facts aboout what men are. And we are indifferent to their 'problems.'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:52 PM
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On the one hand, I'm kind of tired of MRA beingwhiny snowflakes and bitching about everything feminists say. Like, almost every woman has had men force or try to force themselves on her (rape, date rape, fondled, manipulated etc.) And yeah, some women want to try to stop that. On the other hand, I don't think dating is quite as bad as some feminists make it to be. Yes, that quote is kind of far. No, feminism is not hostile to men. It's indifferent, you perceive indifference as hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:15 PM
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It would be good if men did that, but its unlikely to happen. Better focus on women being confident and secure enough to value themselves regardless of their shape and weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:28 PM
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Be a part of movements that advocate and protest for change, and educate people to challenge traditional power structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:26 PM
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Lets see.. I'd like to help bring about significant changes in our system so that it improves in helping and giving opportunities to the people that it has always oppressed (women, minorities, LGBT etc.) Having a kick ass career and being content and happy with my personal life are the other main goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:46 PM
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No no, the person you quoted in your initial post transitioned from the fact that there are incels to the dating market is broken, and it's capitalism's fault, and transitioned from there to 'women are objectified.' All of that seems like such a leap, its ridiculous. Anyway as to your question, I don't think men will break free of that idea any time soon. I hope so, but I don't see society moving in that direction. And incels will keep suffering and being bitter as a result. And feminists should…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:42 PM
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Both are weird to me. Dating is like.. something you do when trying to find someone for a relationship. Usually I 'date' people I've already slept with. If it's casual sex you'd just hook up, not date, with someone..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:32 PM
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Why exactly should feminists care about incels? Sex is not broken, and the problems of objectification are completely different than the problems of incels. Incels are made because we as women now have the ablity to make our own choices, and we choose not to fuck them. That shouldn't be such a big deal. They can just improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:26 PM
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Yeah... but the point is you dont have to be RICH. You have to be INTERESTING. Rich is one way to be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:31 AM
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Sure! But doing something doesnt mean wealth! Wealth is a PLUS. If you have nothing else, it can be a substitute for other things and get you success. But what about the other things? Personality, Charisma, good looks, great sex, fit body, great humor? All these can easily substitute for not having a great job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:31 PM
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No offense. I dont want to be offensive, but I do believe that you do not have a western mentality. Only some women here marry for money. Most have careers. I have never dated a man for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 01:10 AM
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grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:38 AM
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Do you really want a girl who wants you for your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:19 AM
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Hmm. How are you going to find one?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 11:34 AM
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Yeah a lot of the muslims I know have sex too. The males anyway. But okay if its legitimately for religious reasons... sure. But if its bothering you I don't know whats the point of waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:24 AM
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Are you Christian? I don't know any Christians who wait until marriage to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:53 AM
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Is it really for religious reasons? really???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 08:49 PM
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I know them quite well !
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:01 AM
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So... The same thing TRP whines about women doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 09:33 PM
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Certainly not. Most of them are kind, well liked. Natural charmers. Certainly not assholes who consciously use TRP tactics to manipulate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 09:15 PM
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No I don't believe it happens. I think they have other issues and blame their 'kindness' or 'weakness' on women leaving them for their toxicity. All these men complaining also say disgusting hideous stuff about women elsewhere, so yeah... It's not their weakness thats a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 09:12 PM
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Mean people exist in both sexes. I don't think there is a problem of 'toxic femininity.'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 10:32 AM
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Two words: MALE ENTITLEMENT
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 10:30 AM
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Usually, no. A lot of men are pretty bad at it. But if you find the right guy and have a lot of physical chemistry it can be greaaat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 07:02 AM
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I mean, that's YOU. You don't want to get married. And that's fine. Other men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 08:02 AM
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Probably a ton, like attraction from gross guys and creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 08:01 AM
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Agreed one hundred percent. Obviously your peak potential attractiveness begins to decline but I don't think it's very significant and as long as you maintain a healthy diet and a good skincare routine then you will probably maintain your looks more or less into your 30s!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 07:47 AM
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It's unlikely I'll ever get someone as hot as the hottest guy I've slept with to committ to me. Like you pretty much take for granted that you aren't the hottest your LTR has ever had (both for men and women!) It might be the case. Anyway I wouldn't lie about it. Idk why it would even be a topic of discussion...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:57 PM
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Well, I guess I must be more honest with myself than like the average 19 year old? By long term commitment I mean like a really long relationship which is super serious with a possibility of marriage. Am I ready for that? Helllll nah. I've had one proper relationship and very limited sexual and relationship experience (just one year.) If I like a guy a lot obviously I'll want to have some sort of relationship with him, but I don't want to get too deep right now. I don't feel ready for anythign l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 09:20 AM
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Really? So we should be looking at marriage and long term commitment at 19?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:19 AM
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Idk. I'm 19. Maybe I'll get married at 23. Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:50 AM
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Well, thats the plan. Lie about what? About finding someone attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 04:07 AM
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No I am not admitting that. I'm saying that as long as I desire casual sex, I of course will want to hook up with guys I am attracted to (hot guys.) But like, i'm in college right now. I can't even afford to have a relationship. Maybe some years down the road, things will change and I will want a committed relationship. It's not just about getting older. Well, the idea is to not marry the kind of guy that I don't find attractive right now, ever. So I don't know where the dual-mating strategy com…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 04:06 AM
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I don't know if we realize the reality of what we do. i would think not really. I would think that people just grow out of this phase and don't feel guilty because as women we don't have to care about how our behaviors affect men. That's not our problem. But I'm 19 and definitely don't want a long term relationship right now, so I'll let you know in 10 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:17 AM
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Everyone would only have sex with hot people if they could, no? But I don't just have sex with hot guys. A lot of them are taken or are fucking someone else. A lot are boring, or suck in bed. Some aren't interested lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:38 AM
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Don't you think it kinda sucks for both of them in that case? Both are just compromising. She waited too long, he got in too late. So now she has to settle for the guy who maybe isnt as attractive as her partners were in the past, and he has to settle for a girl who probably has had more attractive partners before. But thats just how it works. And I don't see why their relationship can't work just because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:21 PM
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It's just how it works. It's not a conscious decision that yeah I'm going to fuck around until I'm 28 and then marry! It's just that when I'm young and in college, why would I be in a relationship? It makes no sense. I don't want a child, I don't want to restrict my partners, and tbh I'm not yet responsible or mature enough to handle a stable long term relationship! But when I'm 28, none of these things are true anymore, so of course I'll be looking for a partner who is looking for the same thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:40 PM
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Speak for yourself. I've seen many women over 30 that turn plenty of heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:48 PM
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Why would I have a general view on women and all these groups? They are so many people within these groups that are so different. And I've met many awesome and horrible women, or people of other genders for that matter. Everyone is so different, I don't understand how people generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:46 PM
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Most men? Nothing really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:43 PM
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Priorities change as we get older. Its the way it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:43 PM
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I dont understand why it should be separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 08:13 AM
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I mean if its relatively small like a nose job, whatever. But if the doctor is literally fucking your bone structure and cutting your chin and stuff that just sounds gross and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 12:39 AM
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I find plastic surgery weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 11:13 PM
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Oh you have all these terms lol. Interesting... I didn't even know this was a thing on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 09:51 PM
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these procedures generally have painful and significant downsides that are not mentioned lol... Data is based on surveys right? People can lie on surveys lol. I definitely agree that most people will lose their virginity by 21. But I have a few friends who havent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:45 PM
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okay if you say so. She seems to have had something done to her jaw though. And yeah but I'd wager 20% or so are 'incels' and are just lying lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:11 PM
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I always thought plastic surgery was like in correcting some mild facial features. Like an eyelid lift or a nosejob. It can probably get a 5 to a 6 but I guess thats it. Or is that incorrect? You are only 21... wow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:37 AM
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Well I just wanted you to consider the alternatives. I'm not saying don't do it, but I don't think I would in your situation. I've seen 5'4 guys get with attractive-ish girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:47 AM
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I didn't say don't get leg lengthening. Idk if being short is your problem, plenty of successful short guys. But I guess you could try. Maybe it'll give you more confidence at least. I would warn you though if this thing is new tech its probably gonna have some massive downsides. Incels are right about what? Maybe you should listen to me more, considering I have a successful sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:56 AM
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I gave you my advice. Settle on someone less attractive, or find a girl from your ethnic country, or keep whining. Whichever one you prefer. They are all solutions, you just don't like them. You have plenty of choices, you just don't want to take any. But honestly as long as you aren't blaming women for everything I'm fine with whatever you do lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 05:09 AM
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if men start working and improving themselves? That's not all the red pill is. I can read the fucking subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:54 AM
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I'm a girl. I said I know what the flynn effect is. i already read that article. And I've read enough of her history to know that she's has racist beliefs. You don't need to defend her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:02 PM
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I know what the flynn effect is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:43 PM
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This sounds more like the ConservativeChristPill not the 'Christpill'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:25 PM
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Sounds fucking painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:24 PM
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So should people who are below average just sit around waiting for someone who is above average to give them a pity fuck? Rather than fucking each other? I'm sorry if I don't really feel sorry for you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:24 PM
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ive never heard of this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:19 PM
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I think she would argue that it's about 30 points difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:10 PM
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Is leg lengthening and actual thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:10 PM
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I'm 19, not 18. But okay. Yeah thats true, though i wouldn't say I'm good looking. Maybe a 7 on a good day and a 5-6 every other day lol. And if I held out until I could get a relationship with a 9/10 guy then I would be a virgin forever too lol. Here's the thing, if no one wants to buy your product, maybe reduce the price
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:10 PM
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Did I say you are 3/10, I said you can easily get 3/10s and therefore are not an incel. Very few people are. Your standards just don't meet who you actually are. You said 5/10 and short, therefore about 4/10. But you want white girls who are over 6/10. For that you need better game than you have. Really I think your problem is that you think you are owed a woman and you don't want to work for it, or settle for a less than average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:54 AM
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You said yourself the differences were small, not you are saying it's a fairly large difference. Sounds very academic. Insisting that it's mostly genetic (which is what they often do, I read the post history) and that the difference is very high, despite lack of knowledge in the subject (and even the subject itself is very vague with a lot of unanswered questions and variables that have not been controlled for) is racism. That's what I believe. I define the term racist as someone who WANTS to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:42 AM
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Thats what a lot of 'nice guys' do. Be selectively nice when they find us pretty and think they might have a chance at sex, rather than just being themselves and treating us like we are just another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:23 AM
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No you can't have 5 or 6/10 women standards and still call yourself an incel. That's bullshit! Okay so you have a 5/10 face. You are much below average height and that is a significant factor for determining attractiveness in men. Overall you are below average, to put it bluntly. So why not go for 3 or 4 out of 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:09 AM
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Go woo one from India. Or have an arranged marriage isn't that common? Yeah 5'4 is pretty bad, real talk. I've seen it work though. There are a few girls at 5 feet who wouldn't really mind. But maybe they are too ugly for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:53 AM
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brown.. so, Indian you mean? Go find an indian girl. They are much shorter on average I found. Especially in India itself. You have an average looking face, so thats good. Like, no shit 5'8 white girls aren't going to go out with you. That's just a fact. But there are other girls too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:39 AM
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how tall are you and whats your ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:28 AM
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And you are overall depressed because you don't have a girlfriend. And you don't have a girlfriend because you are depressed. How do you think you will escape this vicious circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:17 AM
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your HOBBIES are boring to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:04 AM
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I didn't know you weren't white. Aunt Jemima?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 02:08 AM
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You can't expect a woman to date someone who has NOTHING to be happy about. No close family ties, no close friends, no career success, no hobbies to be proud about, nothing in their life to feel good about. Why date this person? Once you feel happy about something, then you will start to be dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 02:06 AM
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hat you've revealed you don't have, I 'revealed' no such thing. I appreciate that there are a ton of factors involved. And that if there is a residual IQ difference it is probably very small The fact that they would disagree with this is what makes them racists. They refuse to acknowledge the many factors involved, or that it could be explained to a significant extent, even if not completely, by factors other than pure genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 01:54 AM
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dude you said I 10 times, stop talking about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 11:12 PM
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I'm saying you aren't very educated on this matter. You just want to claim that white people have high IQ, to satisfy your own prejudice. I wonder why I had to explain that for someone so high IQ such as yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:36 PM
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And how do you know that? Have you conducted a well researched study into IQ and race? Have you even read many peer reviewed studies in IQ? Can you explain why all the highest IQ countries also have the best education programs and numerous studies have found very high correlation between years of education and IQ? No of course not. You just want to say that white people are superior, and will cherry pick things to prove that and ignore any other factors involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:21 PM
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Incels claim "looks are all that matter." We claim "looks arent all that matters not that looks don't matter." This is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:07 PM
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By selectively ignoring social, cultural and educational factors involved in why black people have lower IQs, and making it a purely genetic thing, white supremacists ARE implying that blacks are inferior. And from what I have read of atlas_b_shruggin, I am willing to bet that she is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:55 PM
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I can tell your personality through your posts. No humor. Full of self pity, regret, bitterness, anger. Why would I want to date a person like that? Why would any woman? Improve your personality. Be happier, kinder, more content.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:51 PM
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Tell you what, poor or rich, good looking or ugly you will always have a bad personality which will turn off most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:19 PM
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You really needed the red pill to tell you that? What you can do to raise your 'smv' is treat women like humans, be normal, polite and don't show desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:14 PM
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I've already tried everything that the redpill suggests So you've become a misogynist, support rape, treat women like garbage, are trying to use women as 'plates.' Yeah I wonder why you aren't getting laid...????
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:12 AM
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