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| 5 | Aren’t MGTOW just as vulnerable as WGTOW?Because the movement is in its infancy. And yes, MGTOW per say as it stands is not really a movement, but that's changing. Until there's some balance in the status quo. Only thing that will happen is more men will realize it's simply not worth being on the butt end the whole time. I get a feeling boomers raised their boys to basically expect all that punishment from women, and accept it as if it's normal. Justifications such as "The man is the hunter" - and expecting 1000's of rejections. Justif… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/12/19 02:30 AM |
| 1 | I drunk email my boss on the weekends as I have no friends or anyone to talk toSomeone to hold my hand like my parents did How old are you? | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/19 10:48 PM |
| 1 | The only thing i have ever looked forward to in life is going back home, jerking off and sleeping after workI message my boss every day asking if I have done anything wrong Stop doing that. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/19 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on Doomers?Weak. This is what happens after princess syndrome. You end up with a generation too weak to tie their own shoes or need to ask permission to take a piss. Too weak to even live. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/19 10:46 PM |
| 1 | I got two questions. 1. What is a MGTOW opinion about virgin and prude shaming of males? 2. What does MGTOW think of men being accused of being on "the DL" or "being a closeted gay"?Being a virgin has really nothing to do with other people. Your sex life, in general, has nothing to do with others. I don't really give a fuck about someone's sexual preference if they're into men or women. I just think there are bigger problems in the world. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/19 10:44 PM |
| 1 | [SERIOUS QUESTION] Is hypergamy real?Pretty much this, the evidence is the pudding. Also, I believe most men can hang out just for the sake of hanging out and being friends. In my experience virtually always when in the past I had female "friends" they always wanted something / some edge / some manipulation / some impure motive. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/19 10:40 PM |
| 2 | You guys ever had that odd moment of self evaluationNot bad advice. Sometimes things happen that can throw you for a whammy and you can lose perspective. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/11/19 09:21 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW is evil poop, change my mind.MGTOW when taking in context to a moral compass starts getting a bit fishy and that's the evil. Here's how it goes. So X gets burned and decides enough of Y. He lives a life of bliss. But now XX comes along and sees X. XX doesn't know that X is basically a loser. X sounds so super smart that XX believes X. XX has never had a YY. XX believes everything X says and sucks up that dogma. He decides to just bypass YY. Both X and XX die lonely and keep coming back to this sub to ask others how to feel … | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/11/19 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Why do people way college is the most fun you will ever have in your life?College gives you more free time than you will ever get in your working life That's kind of a myth because you still need to study and cram. In addition, your brain has to work much harder having to take in fresh information the whole time, and that is crazy stressful. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/11/19 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Why do people way college is the most fun you will ever have in your life?I'm just over 40 now. The reality is every phase of your life has good and bad elements and the experience per individual is so unique it's impossible to generalize. For example. Maybe in your first year you end up with 1 teacher who makes your life a living misery. Now your whole life you'll think back on that year with some sadness. Meantime let's say this same teacher had a pet, and he treated that person like gold. That same student would be thinking of that year with fond memories later. Th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/11/19 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Shallowness is celebrated.Yeah already climbed that thank you, and already sitting pretty, so take your doomsday prophesy shit to a weaker victim. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/11/19 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Did you take advantage of what was around you in high school? ( with example)Let me guess -> God bless the marines for this too? | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/11/19 08:00 AM |
| 7 | Shallowness is celebrated.That's a great writeup. He's no boomer though. He's a millennial, so I'm looking at naivety. But yeah you're spot on about everything else. Here's one outcome of trying to hookup with someone from work. Maybe in the old days, no one would really give a shit and it wouldn't be news. But let's say you for whatever reason get rejected these days, first thing she would do would be to cover her own ass. She'll tell everyone around her "You know what John tried.... " You'll walk in there on a Monday a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/11/19 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Yes, I just got rejected.Welcome to the club, it will happen A LOT. Until you get older. I believe in mid-life it's the other way around, where the men are the ones who have more options and do more of the rejecting. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/11/19 06:15 AM |
| 3 | Jogging on the treadmill for 10 mins, climbing 21 floors worth of stairs 40 pushups, 30 squats but am still gaining weight. Why is this so?Sorry to say but losing weight is hard. You need to "science the shit" out of what you eat. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/11/19 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Did you take advantage of what was around you in high school? ( with example)So let me get this straight, You consider quitting your teaching job and moving to Thailand a major success, and also escaping "divorce rape" or somehow being strong enough to go through a breakup, because you "joined the Marines". You do realize that the purpose of war engines aren't there as your personal character building tool, but actually to push (usually unjust) political agendas? That people die, often innocent people in war? That many of your fellow Marines curse the day they got sucker… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/11/19 11:33 PM |
| 2 | I am obsessed with sex and my fetishes even when I don't watch porn.Change your lifestyle. Be honest, tell me I'm wrong here? You are most likely unemployed and not studying? You have a world of time on your hands and you're using your time sitting around a computer, on Reddit, Netflix and gaming. You have no friends and you have very little social interaction. So you turn to porn. The reason why you're doing this is because you're hoping to capture the essence of what you really crave, which is love, inclusion, and social interaction. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/11/19 03:34 PM |
| 7 | What don’t talk about Fight Club meansWhat I have done once is, after discovering this coworker was living like a MGTOW and also had very (extremely) close philosophy that matched MGTOW, told him he should check out MGTOW because it resonates with what he thinks. But I also do not feel compelled to educate the world or to change anyone. Me mentioning MGTOW to this dude was only because I identified the dude is like me MGTOW long before it even got a label. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/11/19 03:31 PM |
| 0 | Why do most people age so poorly?My understanding is the OP was talking about long extended suntanning sessions or people who spend too much time in the sun with or without protection. I agree with him, but it's not just an opinion but a well-known fact. Also skin type is important. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/11/19 06:54 AM |
| 4 | Why do most people age so poorly?This is one of the most accurate answers here. Especially the alcohol bit. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/11/19 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Mgtow and the 80sThe 80's were VERY clear cut. It was a much more social time to be alive. People used to socialize much more. I mean more big events, and you actually went to visit people and spend hours at their house. Families visited families. No one had any distracting gadgets. No one had a mobile phone or any kind of personal computing device. Letters were very meaningful back then. Both to take the time to write one, and also to receive one. Taking the time to hand mail it felt like it took no energy at a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/11/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | The Difference between a Sex Worker and a Professional (Actress) - A MGTOW story.Exactly. Make no mistake though you get your "lemons" but when you get a good experience it can be as good as it ever gets. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/11/19 08:13 AM |
| 7 | The Difference between a Sex Worker and a Professional (Actress) - A MGTOW story.Have an upboat, great story telling. I'll tell one in return, not in Thailand, but in Poland. There's a certain site, that offers great looking call girls. I call one up and go around, and she's nothing like the photos. She looked much larger, not a good face either. If I was forced to give her a rating it would be a 3/10. Problem is since I was there already and since it's a pain in the ass to arrange these call girls, I thought might as well go through with it since it's better than jerking of… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/11/19 12:42 AM |
| 1 | I have a long term girlfriend, should I break up?Here's my take on this : Don't marry unless you're absolutely sure about it, even then rather simply DO NOT. Unless you're totally convinced this is the woman you REALLY want to spend the rest of your life with - NOPE OUT. And do this fast, there's no point in wasting more years of your life. There's no good reason to be totally dogmatic and write women off for life. Infact I would say don't do this. Keep your options open and maybe find a woman who doesn't make you want to go MGTOW. Good luck. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/11/19 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Patrice O'NeilThis guy is totally spot on. If you want to be in a successful relationship you cannot be hard up or desperate, she'll sense this and manipulate you. Best thing you can do is grow some balls, and don't take any of "that". Keep her a bit on the edge of her seat. Don't let her get too comfortable. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/11/19 08:35 PM |
| 1 | What I use to envyObviously everyone is free to chirp in, but what you're saying and what I responded to, is not the same thing. Also, you can twist words any way you like it doesn't change the reality or the point I was trying to make, but you basically just regurgitated what I said. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/11/19 05:20 PM |
| 1 | What I use to envyObviously nothing is as it seems. It's the same thing as watching someone good at an extreme sport. You might see the glory, but not really appreciate the hurt and pain involved to get that good. All the falls and effort. I play classical guitar, and to really play this instrument takes years and years. To play a piece perfectly requires much more effort than someone who doesn't play would begin to realize. Does that mean it's simply not worth it? I'll say a lot of people are frankly MORONS. Not… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/11/19 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Do girls with princess syndrome get mad at attractive men who are aloof loners?No, they don't. They get wet when they get denied. Basically it's like this. If you're not attractive you can't do anything right. You might tell a joke for example. That joke comes off as creepy / not funny. You might be telling a story and they show no interest. You might come in wearing odd socks, and its like "Gee what kind of a loser". But if you're attractive you can virtually do no wrong. Your jokes might be weak, you can come in wearing those odd socks and it's funny and excentric not sa… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/11/19 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Why is there so much gatekeeping on MGTOW?The whole thing boils down to this. There's a big difference between someone making a determination based on experience vs someone who just expects everything to go right and when it doesn't nopes out because of inaccurate expectations based on being raised under "princess syndrome". | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/11/19 11:47 AM |
| 11 | Bully brings her tugh white knight friend to physically abuse a high school boy. Gone terribly wrong.She did more damage to her white knight than the guy did. He put him in a sleep hold, she stabbed him in the face. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 26/10/19 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Bully brings her tugh white knight friend to physically abuse a high school boy. Gone terribly wrong.Because she's a female and immune to any real consequence in that area of the world. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 26/10/19 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Starting to feel disconnected from my male friends and my peers as a whole.To me, MGTOW isn't a departure from women, but instead the departure from the status quo. Let's be clear most people are mindless and dull, but there's a catch, exceptional people are quirky and focused. This means that, unless you have a specific target or goal in mind usually only the dull and mindless will hang out just for the sake of hanging out. Try to focus your friendships around objectives. If you enjoy playing a particular sport, spend time with people who play the same sport. This see… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/10/19 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Read my comment.The more I think about it, the more it's total horseshit. Firstly who actually has that agenda when raising a kid? No normal person. Secondly, the poster doesn't even have a fucking son! But had a daughter who ended up fucked on drugs, and became a hooker and later died of an OD - Now I guess she blames not her daughter, but a previous boyfriend. 3rd - The polar opposite post would be "I'm just trying to raise my son to be smart enough not to have his life destroyed by one of your daughters" - B… | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 06:08 AM |
| 4 | Read my comment.Just trying to raise my son to be able to know that he deserves better than your daughters. | /r/MGTOW | 24/10/19 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Can you really win?My point is if you believe most women are fine and angelic then chances are you'll just get burnt, then end up on here with an AWALT mantra, just like in MGTOW 1. MGTOW are more than capable of getting women, but not everyone can spot red flags, some even ignore those red flags. So can you be too skeptical? Well, that depends on how much you value your own life. EDIT : Also ask anyone who's alive, or who's in a relationship what their success rate was. Well, it's easy to figure out either none o… | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/10/19 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Can you really win?Let's get a few things straight. Firstly the natural order of things is not to live in isolation. We're social beings and desire companionship. MGTOW is reactionary. It's not the natural order of things. It's a response to the status quo, and by that, I mean the state in general of women. What mostly anyone with a brain will agree with is that women are experiencing a golden age, the odds are heavily in their favor and there's no immediate signs of this changing. And this is why MGTOW exists in … | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/10/19 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Living the dream.and the cast iron was feeling a little lonely. That's a common theme among MGTOWs. I mean I'm sure it wasn't just the cast iron feeling a little lonely. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/10/19 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Any of you have disappointing families?I know we don't like to play the blame game I like to call a spade a spade. I own my own failures, but there are many things that come from a bad childhood that affect us deeply, and these are the things we CANNOT blame ourselves for. We can deal with them as best we can, but we are not personally responsible. Unfortunately, the same people who caused the damage are too ignorant and dumb to take any responsibility, because if they were they wouldn't have caused that damage to begin with. Having … | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/10/19 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Realistically is it possible to live alone the entire life?Not only that's possible but it's superior to any other option BY FAR For you maybe. But it would be dogmatic and downright delusional to apply this universally. I've lived alone and had long term relationships and by far I prefer being in a relationship. It just makes more sense all around. Financially you're a team and capable of more. With the right partner who earns the same as you, it's like having double the income and double the potential. There's a whole lot more redundancy. If one gets … | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/10/19 06:38 PM |
| 0 | They really cant stand it can they? They want to give sex dolls the ability to turn down sex.Or you're just being triggered and it's a marketing ploy to make them seem far more real than they actually are. In reality, the final product would most likely have the ability to change firmware easily or come with firmware options that either do or do not have any consent module. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/10/19 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Supplement a SO with friends, family, flings, and fitnessHere's my experience. Firstly friends. The best friends I've had during my life were back in high school. These were real friends. As I got older the quality of my friendships just seemed to decrease on the whole. Friends at 40 are "friends" joke edition. These are people you might occasionally see and actually you have to really wonder if you even like them at all. The older you get the easier you can spot bullshit, and the more you can see that just about everyone has issues, and it's one thin… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/10/19 06:27 PM |
| 1 | The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.- Friedrich NietzscheGot a few thoughts on this. Physical distance (alone time) -> Stands to reason that if you're constantly around other people you will have less clarity of mind. Also if you are too much on your own you will be depressed and unstable. Keep healthy ratios. Spend your time with people who deserve it. Don't just spend time with people out of obligation or duty. Spend time with people who enrich you or make you feel good. Absolutely avoid AT ALL COSTS being "shoulder Dave" for that chick in the offic… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/10/19 08:40 PM |
| 1 | The hostility toward mgtow is unrealThe hostility toward mgtow is unreal MGTOW (as a movement) mostly exists on Reddit. Yeah, that's it, sorry to burst any bubbles. Also that's pretty much /r/mgtow. Again a sub who's primary focus is the hatred of women. I don't see what's so surprising? | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/10/19 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Just something I realized as of late...why are there so many places with female managers ?I've been in corporate IT for as long as I can remember, and I very much doubt any other industry works very much differently. It has very little to do with gender. That is to say, I am not convinced that all-female managers are terrible and male managers are great. Let's be honest the vast majority of people in management positions are simply incompetent. There are good reasons for this. The first reason is that very few managers are hired specifically to manage. Usually, the job falls to an ex… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/10/19 03:36 PM |
| 1 | I'll just have my boyfriend bring it.Aha, very good point. | /r/MGTOW | 01/10/19 04:14 AM |
| -1 | Im seriously considering un subbing to r/MGTOW. Convince me not to.Why should I or anyone else have to convince you? You make it sound like we give a shit if you stay or leave a sub. No one gives a fuck, got it? | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/09/19 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Im seriously considering un subbing to r/MGTOW. Convince me not to.Im seriously considering un subbing to r/MGTOW. Convince me not to Then unsub. Why do you need the attention? | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/09/19 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Any body ever feel that they’re not MGTOW enough?I want to focus on my goals but my hormones don’t let me. Relationships and success are not mutually exclusive. I'll give 2 examples (extreme examples). First example is a guy who wants to start paragliding. He never does because it's the kind of sport that means he needs to spend virtually every weekend on the hills and away from his family. Second example is a guy who has a female who supports him. He's in a relationship and he's paragliding a lot. Next thing is classical guitar related. One g… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/09/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | How do I become disciplined?Forget about being overly disciplined. Some people are naturally like that some are not. I believe it also has to do with how you are raised. Some kids got routine and responsibilities handed to them, or from a very young age were taught to be clean and tidy after themselves etc. Others didn't and it carries through to adulthood. Forget about trying to solve this stuff, it's impossible. Instead focus on what's important, and build discipline in these areas. Focus on things you really want to do … | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/09/19 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Sometimes I just wanna fucking dieFor starters there's no getting around it for some people, like me included, student days are not only "not the best times of your life", but were a bit horrendous. I recall even back in high school, I attempted to go to a boarding school. That lasted a good solid few months, and it was some of the dullest times of my entire life. Extremely militant, something like prison (I can only imagine). In the sense that it was all about following a routine. Every morning was the same, every afternoon fol… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/09/19 08:59 PM |
| 1 | I'm sick of older women hovering around me, I just want to be left alone.There's this one cleaner at work that does this. I tend to work in the evenings and alone a couple of times a week. Best time to get anything done. But no, it's a massive floor, most likely the size of the titanic, and yet this one cleaner has to come and clean around me when I'm there. She used to try and make small talk. I quickly put a stop to that, but that doesn't stop her hovering around. I can't exactly be rude to her, or she'll complain and I'll look unreasonable. But it's starting to an… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/09/19 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here have many friends?Having a married friend with kids, if you're single and outgoing is going to get frustrating fast. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/09/19 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone here have many friends?No. I don't have ANY close friends. And I agree with everything you said. Most people aren't work the Dickens Cider. The winning recipe is to focus on solo activities that make you happy. For me it's classical guitar and it takes an incredible amount of time to get good. With such a focus, now it's YOUR allocation that is the deciding factor. Now you are the one who isn't interested in useless pursuits because YOU are focusing on bigger things, rather than going out and getting drunk and talking… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/09/19 08:22 AM |
| 1 | "The College experience"I know people who thrive in educational environments. One is a perpetual student. Yeah over 30 and still studying but never seems to pass anything. Doubt he has one degree finished. Not saying education isn't important, but I see it as a means to an end and not the destination. It's a phase or chapter in your life, just like any other. There will be both good and bad aspects of any phase. But for me personally the work phase was far better than the study phase. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/09/19 08:18 AM |
| 1 | "The College experience"Nope, I was straight up blue pill back then. I also don't look back on those days as "Best years of your life". I had friends that I carried over from high school, and 2 of these remained golden friends, but I also met a huge compliment of shitheads and the general vibe of everything thinking they're ultrasmart or that overzealous way of behaving by trying to impress or pretend to be something they're not. I had some girlfriends here and there, but in hindsight, during those years the juice wasn… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/19 09:07 PM |
| 1 | AghhhYou'll need to go into some detail about what actually happened. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/19 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Everyone should use one account for MGTOWUsually this comes up when you get into some disagreement or argument. Shit like "Yeah says the MGTOW poster" trying to get others involved in "winning that argument" because you're MGTOW. And I've realized one thing. There's nothing on Reddit worth arguing about. You will not sway opinion or influence others and especially not the dweebs who will use MGTOW against you, as if it somehow discredits you. So here is what you do. Don't be afraid to block people. I know it seems like work, but not ev… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/09/19 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Am I a heartless bastard?This is solid advice considering the options, and what's more important is my behavior in regards to my siblings. Here's a few ways I could deal with this : Make a bad ass point, bringing up all the crap from the past and calling them out on their BS. While this might give the most temporary satisfaction it does nothing long term. Only degrades sibling relationships. Point the finger at him, reminding my siblings of the work I put in over the years etc. Yeah that just makes me look like the bad … | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Mothers out here sexually exploiting their kids as fathers try to stop them but can't because of sexism and social media platformsAbsolutely and they do. It's all just part of this bubble life phenomenon. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/19 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Mothers out here sexually exploiting their kids as fathers try to stop them but can't because of sexism and social media platformsHow can one avoid constantly making sure everyone is happy and suffering less? Never be born. According to you me sharing something that is a legitimate issue is something toxic and where did I say "women bad"? Did you contact the authorities? Did you boycott (said platform) because such a platform is enabling such behavior? Did you figure out where this women lives, buy a ticket, go and knock on her door and have something to say? Are any of those things in your power to do? Have you decided st… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/19 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Mothers out here sexually exploiting their kids as fathers try to stop them but can't because of sexism and social media platformsExactly. But in addition, let's look at what's going on here in a bit of detail and where the OP, you and I fit in. The first participant is the original creator. In this case, it's some low-class BS (or sexual exploitation). In another case it could be some dip shit Youtuber who most of us don't give a fuck about anyway. And our lives would be completely fine and oblivious. If participant B didn't get involved. Queue the Youtube Drama monger. Aka the most common type of theme these days on Yout… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/19 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Society simulates the wild. Be careful you don’t go too far on indulging.I think there's a tendency within MGTOW to consider it unique or revolutionary, but it's not. In case you aren't paying attention, there's a general consensus going on towards bubble life. Bubble life is the top-level category and MGTOW is really just one of many interpretations of this. The idea is that the participant feels disillusioned by the status quo, somewhat like he/she just doesn't belong and seeks to either abstract from society altogether (unlikely) or to create some kind of haven in… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/09/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Women have acted like complete cunts toward to me my entire life. I always thought it was because of something I did or my looks but after taking the pill I've realized that I was never the problemThe other problem is that today these men now have reddit where they can hook up with other losers and bitch about how women are all "cunts" and everything is women's fault, and have their opinions "validated" by upvotes. And that's all fine and well, but then so many of these posts are primarily on how to live with the loneliness. The reality is the reflection you see in the mirror is only your own. If you believe women are all cunts then you're setting the stage for failure. If you believe mar… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/19 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Women have acted like complete cunts toward to me my entire life. I always thought it was because of something I did or my looks but after taking the pill I've realized that I was never the problem"complete cunts" I put a lot of blame on Disney here. They lay out the expectation for young boys that they are akin to a prince (or the hero of the story), and besides an epic adventure, the final end prize is a princess. Attaining this princess is a sure-fire thing. In the Disney universe, it's easy, the princess right off the bat already likes the prince. Where not it's some minor superficial problem that can be solved, such as an attitude adjustment or tweaks in behavior (such as naturally m… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/19 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Exercising is greatly helping with the loneliness, but it’s not enough. Any advice?I went MGTOW for many reasons, a big one was I was never happy in relationships and most of the time I felt more lonely in relationships than out of them Honestly? That's not how relationships are supposed to work. I suggest you go and get some therapy. Don't rely on internet armchairs, go and see a professional and go right back and focus on the holistic picture. Something a trained professional who's studied psychology can help you with. I’ve always felt lonely ever since getting out of high s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/09/19 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Married men of r/MGTOW2, what do you get from this sub?MGTOW to me isn't a departure per se from women, but I can relate to other aspects of MGTOW, and actually this forms my entire definition of MGTOW. Most MGTOW are highly critical and increasingly skeptical of "wool over their eyes" tactics found in the world. Every political system and just being generally unhappy with the status quo. Basically, we feel we got lied to. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/09/19 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Frugality repels a lot of peopleI realized this a long time ago. Society in general but specifically women don't care about your overall net worth and strategy, instead what is visible. You might be debt-free and sitting on a huge nest egg, but that isn't attractive. You might be living in a totally unsustainable way, your credit maxed to the very limit, but as long as you're driving that nice car, and are displaying some external wealth, you'll get respect. That's sad but that's also life. We wouldn't be having this conversat… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/09/19 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Are any of you guys left wing?Most MGTOW including myself aren't aligned to any political system. Hell right at the very core is the breakaway from politics. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/09/19 04:05 PM |
| 1 | How to not get oneitis?I would like to add some clarification to what you've said. Watch out with the getting to know her part. Some (most / all) women are going to project a certain vibe your way. And initially it can be amazing. They'll laugh at every joke you tell. They'll sit there with those stary eyes. They show genuine interest in you. Also, they tend to also act like a real lady, at least they feint a certain weakness, making you believe "Wow she really needs me" or "This one is how they should be". Watch out … | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/09/19 07:41 PM |
| 1 | How to not get oneitis?There's a thought, don't be that dogmatic as to automatically rule out the possibility of finding a suitable woman for your entire life. Remember the natural order of things is to have a partner. MGTOW is a reactionary movement based on the existing status quo with women but there are always exceptions to this. I'm not saying rush right in there, neither am I saying the situation out there with women is completely fine. The vast majority out there won't be worth your time. But if you do manage t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/09/19 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Let others do the bulk of the work.That sums it up very nicely actually. The only question is how temporary. And to add to this, no one owes you anything, and most people are takers. I believe when it comes to some transactional loyalty, many people will try at least to keep things fair initially. But these are in the realms of favors. And these are with things that are easy to quantify and require very little effort. Such as I spot you lunch today, you get the next one. But the overall relationship -> input -> output mechanism w… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/19 06:20 PM |
| 1 | There WON’T be a societal collapseCivilizations do fall. I also suspect that under the Roman Empire there were doomsday prophets and naysayers who predicted the end of the world, now we look back at something archaic, perhaps barbaric and low tech. Life not only continued but it improved. I believe it will be the same one day regarding us and this Capitalistic model we live by, let's call it the Capitalistic Empire. Future generations might look back with fascination, curiosity, and awe but through the lens of a better and more … | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/19 05:17 PM |
| 1 | A New, More Rigorous Study Confirms: The More You Use Facebook, the Worse You FeelFacebook is basically a disguised bragging site. Most people upload only what fits their agenda to make themselves look better. It's like a carefully crafted "This is me" social CV. It's not really designed for communication or building relationships. As MGTOW you have 2 choices. Abandon FB completely - trust me your life will not be any worse off. You will not miss much. Have a profile, put up your own little life CV for those NPC's out there. I'm in camp 2. I don't take FB seriously at all, an… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/19 07:46 PM |
| 1 | The Czech Republic is the greatest country for MGTOWThat kind of sucks. I remember a friend of mine coming over from the states, back when we were teenagers, so roughly what? 20 years ago, and when asked what's it like there, he replied it's different, it's like everyone is like family. Can't remember where he lived, but my guess is most likely a smaller town and he also mentioned the quality of life for the average man is pretty good. Not sure how that has changed? But his uncle was a trucker and doing pretty well for himself. Since then I've en… | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/19 07:19 PM |
| 1 | The Czech Republic is the greatest country for MGTOWDid you learn the language? Better than any other foreigner I've ever met here. Except for one perhaps who's on par but my pronunciation is better, and he's been here 7 years longer than I have. Having said that for someone without a Slavic language background, or coming from a language without cases, learning this language is roughly as hard as trying to speak encryption code. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/19 07:12 PM |
| 1 | The Czech Republic is the greatest country for MGTOWDepends where you go and what you do and where you live. At work, I can get by on English. Outside of that, at certain points in the service sector and outside of that depending on the age of who you talk to. Most people over say 35 here don't speak much English. This is mostly due to heavily restricted travel under socialism and actually Russian being the 2nd language taught in schools and German being the next popular after that. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/19 07:09 PM |
| 1 | The Czech Republic is the greatest country for MGTOWI would say Americans still have some humanity left in them. Not saying this is always the case but there are many examples of Americans sticking their necks out or risking their lives to help total strangers. There's a general feeling of pride and responsibility to help people in distress, this "How would I feel" empathy is still there. Oh, trust me Americans can be dicks too, but I get the feeling they are more direct and not scared of confrontation. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/19 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Any other ex-PUAs here?PUA tactics work. They work in the sense that you will be able to get women interested. Great! Huge success! Not so fast. Congratulations you've managed to also now attract all the wrong type of women. All PUA tactics lead to is more sex with the wrong women. In all cases (in my own experience) it always leads to a crappy end. Not one was a keeper. Well obviously not, the good ones are rare (extremely) and you will miss them if you're applying PUA tactics. PUA tactics are also IMO an indication … | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/09/19 09:14 PM |
| 1 | What do you do post-redpill rage?I would argue that the best way to find what you want, is to stop looking around for what is the social norm, and instead just look inside and find out what you really want. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Slow death of everything we lovePretty much this. In addition, life is always changing, people are changing and situations are changing. Life is really what you make of it. It's an incredible time to be alive. Here's an example, pick anything you want to do? Maybe you want to build some home automation - Well you can! Maybe you want to go diving in the Caribian? Well, you can! Feel like studying music? You can do that too. This is the age of comfort and what do we do with it? We sit around and talk shit and complain because th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Society is stacked against going your own way. Is there an answer?What you're talking about isn't MGTOW it's called "Getting off the grid". This isn't "Into the wild" the movie and we're not survivalists. What you want isn't MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Why my heart is brokenRegarding the main point. No that's not the reason my heart got broken by said ex. I'm sure the much more common reason is that a) You form a strong bond with this person (A feeling like this is the only person in the world who gets you -> very deep connection ). b) You become almost addicted to this person c) You have hope at least you'll spend the rest of your life with this person AND things will remain the same. I'm talking here about intense romance. The kind of romance books are written ab… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/08/19 07:55 PM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreThe sad thing is I picked up gaming long before it was cool. You know back when it was actually fun when you're a kid. Way back before PC moved on to all forms of gaming. I'm convinced that carrying it through adulthood (even though I did this) is not the best long term decision. I'm by no means a pro gamer, but I am an incredibly well-versed gamer, most likely like you too, and would like to clarify 2 things. A) I'm by no means one of those sour recovering WoW addicts. B) I'm also not some clue… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/08/19 08:54 PM |
| 2 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymorePut it this way, the most valuable hobby I have is classical guitaring. The least valuable one is gaming. No one has ever said to me "Wow so you play video games, I don't but I have a lot of respect for people who do". No one has ever said to me "I wish I had the talent to play video games". No one has ever said to me "You're a great video game player". People at the office when I'm mentioned do not say "Yes, he plays video games". EDIT: Yeah and it's bad for your body, sitting all the time too. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/08/19 04:03 AM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreI second all of this, and so I'll tell an anecdotal yet true story as some evidence. Using 2 colleagues for comparison. One plays Pubg, and when I mean play Pubg, I mean that's almost literally all he does. I'm talking about playing for 8-14 hours straight on weekends and rushing home after work to fire it up. I guess before Pubg there was something else. Before I continue the brain is remarkable in the sense that it cannot perceive reflect on its own damage. For example, people who end up in ca… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 09:37 PM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreCouldn't have really said it better. Frankly really wondering if I even need a PC. If you think about it, Reddit is just another form of gaming. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Dealing with internal shame for years. Anyone successfully stopped giving a fuck?Rome wasn't built in a day and I'm telling you all of this in retrospect from a 42-year-old perspective. Remember there are 2 aspects of this. Let's discuss the unhealthy aspect first. This is when your self-esteem is so low, and self-worth that you internally believe others are superior. This could be because they're more popular, wealthy, better connected, more intelligent, better looking, etc. This leads to you despising people because you feel like you are not getting valued or taken serious… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/08/19 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Beware the InfiltrationKind of, however, that's what mods are supposed to prevent. So all that fancy shit posting they do, and strong anti feminist agenda, that's all them. If it wasn't the mods would have gotten rid of that a long time ago. Incels are everywhere, unfortunately, they're on this sub too. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Deleted Tinder, OkCupid, and BumbleThis is an absolute must, I would recommend this for ALL men on this planet. Even the most seasoned PUA will tell you dating apps aren't worth the time. I've actually had success with them, and I'll tell you the amount of rejection, time-wasting and hours I used to pour into it is something like squeezing not an entire lemon, not an entire tree of lemons, but an orchard of lemon trees for a simple drop. If all you're after is sex there are easier ways, and if you actually want a relationship cha… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Some dudes are really funny. When explaining your lifestyle (going MGTOW), you don't need to mention all the things why you don't want women in your life. That's why people think it's weird. Talk about yourself instead. You want to improve your life on your own.Let's be clear, not very many people give a shit. Once you realize that you'll know how to answer questions. You'll know what information to volunteer and how much of it. It took me far too long to realize that questions like "How was your weekend?" are best answered with one or two words "Great actually!" Most likely Bob or Mary from the office really do not give a fine fuck about how exactly you spent your weekend. Same applies for your lifestyle choices. Remember they don't really give a fuck… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Stop being apologetic for the shitty behavior of others.Its the "Normies" who sit around gossiping and giggling that I find the most objectionable Well yeah. At least where I work, no one will come up to your face and call you an asshole. No, what you get is passive aggression at the highest level. But first let me be clear being liked or disliked is so completely subjective and flavor of the day. I've been liked and disliked and it's the same me if that makes sense. So if that crowd turns against you, and this can happen over something trivial and m… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Stop being apologetic for the shitty behavior of others.I'm not really a fan of these concrete labels and I'll tell you why. While the archetypes may indeed exist, this is a scientific fact. However, the actual meaning is often misinterpreted of what it really means to be introverted or extroverted. It's really much more about how the brain processes information, rather than how outgoing you are. I'm by definition introverted. However, by behavior, I'm actually extroverted. So what am I an extroverted introvert? Bottom line is introverted can be outg… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Seriously don't tolerate dickheads or ignore the warning signs.That's really the crux of the matter here. I'm too damn nice. Instead, you're correct - Fucking 100 or 1000% correct, you need to be vigilant and chastise and speak your mind. One thing I need to do is get into the habit of doing this consistently and early. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/19 08:12 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW vs TRPBoth have basically lost hope in the natural order of things. Redpillers basically decide to game women or manipulate them. In a way, this means they no longer take women seriously. Or women have lost their respect. They see women as pawns. MGTOW rather just steps back and takes a more passive stance, and finds other interests, rather than playing that game. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 09:21 PM |
| 1 | How do you make your life interesting?Let's be clear to me MGTOW isn't just about "not getting a girlfriend". MGTOW is a departure from the status quo. That entire weight of the world and concerns over issues such as politics, foreign wars, social agendas, etc lifted. There are various degrees of this, and I still have room for improvement, because I still have a natural curiosity to at least be roughly abreast with what's going on (but not emotionally involved). So what can be done with the time generated? Well, whatever you decide… | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 05:06 AM |
| 1 | A woman waltz’s into this forum and asks a question. If you answer her, you are being a simp.Ah so it's like that... Yeah, I'm too old for that particular stance. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 04:59 AM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on "Junior" by Arnold Schwarzenegger?I could be wrong but my takeaway from that movie is that it's nothing more than a ridiculous comedy. As it stands men cannot independently generate children. This is (not yet) an issue on any radar, and there's no agenda to change this. Men have options such as surrogacy. Which isn't exactly cheap, but then again neither is a new car, so surrogacy is cheaper than a new car. Adoption is another option, even if it's not a very good one. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 04:57 AM |
| 1 | A woman waltz’s into this forum and asks a question. If you answer her, you are being a simp.I don't disagree with you. You have every right to discuss MGTOW philosophy or answer any questions. Since it is an interesting topic to talk about, why wouldn't you? | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 04:51 AM |
| 1 | A woman waltz’s into this forum and asks a question. If you answer her, you are being a simp.When I read this comment Mod, this is the mental picture I got : https://imgur.com/WHYnQva | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 04:49 AM |
| 2 | You're not MGTOW if you're ignoring your health and fitness.This sounds like red pill propaganda. "Lift bro" and if you're not getting pussy then "Go back and lift bro". Yeah, I'm all for self-improvement and taking care of yourself, but that really has nothing to do with core MGTOW philosophy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/19 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW the right way ?Why do you need to slap a label on something and subscribe? Why don't you do what's right for you, and forget about formalizing your approach? This is why I say MGTOW isn't a movement. Only you, know you. Only you know what's right for you. And you are evolving. What might be right for you today, might not hold true tomorrow. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/19 09:46 AM |
| 1 | The End?Very nicely written, insightful and I like your mature stance on it rather than proclaiming this "end of day" narrative. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 06:49 AM |
| 1 | The End?In a philosophical context, was it that great to begin with? Did it scale and was it wholesome? I don't think this current model is truly sustainable and shouldn't be fixed or kept on life support. Something has to change. Now I don't think this is all doom and gloom, and I also don't think that we can expect any radical change over in our lifetimes. What you can expect, and what has already happened is some slow awakening. This will translate into seemingly minor tweaks of the current system bu… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 06:45 AM |
| 1 | I don't think there's a man in this world who can't get a woman. That's easy. But not many men actually become great in the things that they do. Everything requires effort and persistence.I would have that opinion if I was, for example, reflecting on an episode of Married with children. Here we might say the father never realized his real dreams and is somehow caught up in some never-ending nightmare of chaos and mediocrity. But really I have some faults with the argument you present. Firstly when discussing finding ANY woman, the premise is a bit ridiculous. One might randomly select a jelly bean and put that in your mouth, one doesn't just randomly grab a female for life long c… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Everything within the media, including social media, is fake, dont forget that.While I wouldn't say "every single thing" I would agree with you that it's so virtually close to everything that for all intents and purposes we can in this context safely use the word "Everything". And a side note, don't trust reviews either. How many products have you bought in the last 10 years? I got burned a lot when I got into electronic cigarettes. These "Phat vaper" types get sent "mods" for free and give them stellar reviews. I got burned a few times when the item was total crap. Stuff … | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 06:45 AM |
| 1 | While mgtow is neccessary now, where do we go from here?This line of thinking isn't MGTOW. What you're proposing is social activism. "Pave the way for a better future" For who? The MGTOW is only concerned about himself and has already departed the status quo. Destroy the hostility between the sexes Implying like we have an obligation. The MGTOW is not obligated to do jack shit to correct the injustices of this world or restore balance to a perverse and crazy society. He has already forgotten any sense of duty to the ungrateful. When it was time to li… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 06:38 AM |
| 1 | How do you get rid of or reduce brain fog?Cut out all alcohol. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 06:32 AM |
| 4 | Why Do Women Hate Men?What I've noticed is this, but a word of warning this might have some cultural bias. Just like the weather, there's a real feel of "goodness" in a community. Think about it as the natural resting position. Either people feel all warm and fuzzy towards the next or on the other end of the scale strong dislike, hatred, and distrust. The feeling I get is that most people simply don't really like each other. This is especially true to strangers or unfamiliar. The tendency isn't to trust and like, but… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Another article: "Craving freedom, Japan’s women opt out of marriage"I swear if you could take a man and totally strip him of his desire for sex, one has to really start asking what motivation then does he have to even be around women? Because I'll tell you one thing. A man wants a woman who REALLY needs him. Can we really blame women? I think not. The Universe is an opportunistic place. Can you blame a cat that kills a bird or a virus that infects a host? Then can you blame women for not needing men now that they find themselves in this ripe pasture of a first-w… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 08:08 PM |
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