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| 6 | Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line?Most evidence would suggest it's more akin to 80% of men pursuing 20% of women and being disappointed when they fail. Even that's wrong, but closer to reality. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/25 09:35 AM |
| 27 | Testosterone and female attractionYou're in the wrong place, my guy. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/25 07:49 PM |
| 5 | Do you think the advice "BE YOURSELF" is a good advice in dating?This is basically what I would want to have said. Neediness derives of insecurity with who one is, more than anything. Presenting yourself genuinely shouldn't be understood as acting on impulses derived of insecurity. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/06/25 05:11 PM |
| 9 | What if the 80/20 Rule Isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but a tool to Understand who we're actually compatible with?And while it's based on real data from dating apps (like women disproportionately swiping on a small group of high-status men), it’s also heavily misunderstood and weaponized. It's not based on real data. The data that is most frequently cited is regularly and consistently misrepresented, assuming it is referencing that very old OKC dataset that doesn't even come close to suggesting that women chase the top 20%. In fact, if anything, it suggests that men chase the top 20%. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/25 02:38 AM |
| 3 | Have your views on women actually changed?No, ofcourse not. I actually tend to put women on a pedestal which I have been criticized for in this sub You should outline how you put them on a pedestal. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/25 02:30 PM |
| 10 | Have your views on women actually changed?People's views on a lot of things can change. It depends on how deeply held the views, how core they are to their identity, and how easily disproven they are. There are definitely bad actors out there who shape their worldview to be consistent with what's the most likely to help them out (men who express socially progressive attitudes to impress women without actually holding or living by those values in a truly meaningful way), but you almost need to lack any degree of empathy to really leverag… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/25 01:58 PM |
| 5 | How to make myself attracted to below average overweight women?Do you have any friends? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/25 03:58 PM |
| 7 | How to make myself attracted to below average overweight women?Have you ever been able to meet women who you might not have been attracted to at the outset from a sexual standpoint whose company you could still enjoy as friends? Spending a long time around someone can grow your attachment and soften your perspective. Another piece, do you spend time on social media or porn sites staring at women who are more conventionally attractive? Have you contemplated what, besides appearance, you are actually looking for in a prospective partner? Do these things typic… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/25 03:57 PM |
| 7 | The term "incel" is in itself misogynisticI would potentially challenge one piece of the history here. As far as I understand, which I will own could be mistaken, the original coining was self-imposed and created by a woman. Moreover, it was less intended as a movement in opposition to those who had caused them to be celibate against their will than a mutual support group for those who landed in this camp. It became infested with socially awkward men who began to weaponise it and view it as the fault of society and actively take steps t… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/02/25 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it ok to sometimes “play the toxic game”.Then I talked to a friend who said the opposite. He said his wife was having an emotional affair he confronted the guy and boldly proclaimed to the man to stay away from his wife. That doesn't actually address the underlying problem. Why is she having an emotional affair? Is it because her husband doesn't threaten enough other men? If not, then he only addressed the symptom. Basically he heard his wife’s cry for help and acted. He didn’t asked her to explain it he channeled his inner man. By doi… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/01/25 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Woman Gets Upset! She Went On A Date With $20 & Had To Pay For Her Own MealOk? | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/24 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Update about my last post regarding men not being allowed to like animals.I've gotten some judgement for cat ownership, but usually from online parties. Never face to face. It's stupid. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/24 04:29 PM |
| 8 | Getting over feeling creepy?Something to remember is that friendship isn't a consolation prize. If you go in hoping for only friendship, you won't be so focused on romantic rejection. The other thing is that if you go in only wanting friendship, you will likely be more at ease and comfortable and people will be more interested in engaging with you as a friend. While that won't in and of itself lead directly to a relationship, it can open up opportunities to meet new people and people can vouch for you and talk you up down … | /r/ExRedPill | 08/11/24 02:00 PM |
| 12 | Olivia NuzziThe fact that it occurs is how RP can garner credibility. The way it loses credibility is by the fact that it truly is quite rare. There are attractive young men who wind up with older women for power and status. We don't scrutinise or generalise their behaviour because it doesn't fit a specific narrative. Human behaviour is variable. Most people wouldn't do as she did, but some do and she is part of that some. That should reasonably be enough. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/09/24 06:28 PM |
| 17 | Approaching 30 and scared of the modern woman’s body countPlease consider seeing a therapist. This is well-beyond the subject matter expertise of a subreddit. You have some core beliefs that are not reality-based (people share statistics and you disbelieve because it doesn't align with your circle), you state that you "know" the majority of your female peers are 10+ yet don't appear to have evidence for the claim. You also talk about women at this age settling but also about them always having other options at the ready. There's a number of conflicting… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/24 06:47 PM |
| 5 | How can I stop seeing myself as post-wall?TLDR: There's no good evidence to support the existence of a wall. Body: As you already confirmed you cannot afford therapy, you may want to consider self-help books on CBT (such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Dummies) to start addressing these beliefs. I have been finding that there's this weird, implied notion that dating should be easy and that if and when it isn't, it is the result of some kind of personal flaw, deficiency, or other shortcoming. The RP mindset seems to suggest that thin… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/09/24 03:18 PM |
| 14 | How to become attracted to someone based on their personality?It isn't a volitional thing. In the same way that you can't force someone else to fall for you, you can't force yourself to fall. With that being said, familiarity, frequency, and proximity are factors that can help you grow in attraction. If you get along well enough with someone and really like their personality, frequent hang outs and exposure to the person can influence the development of feelings. I've only really developed feelings like this with people who I didn't find unattractive. That… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/08/24 03:37 PM |
| 1 | How to become attracted to women in my "league"?Are you non-white? | /r/ExRedPill | 27/08/24 09:27 PM |
| 2 | How to become attracted to women in my "league"?Honestly, subjective self-assesents don't really work out so well one way or the other. Moreover, I'd be curious to know what your impression of a 5/10 is, appearance-wise. The other part is that I'm curious how much time you spend on getting to know women without any intentions to be more than just friends. This including the ones whom you find <5. Familiarity can often breed attraction, for one. Besides all of that, though... it's very hard to actually help you based on the information you've … | /r/ExRedPill | 27/08/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeCool, autocorrect didn't capture "implicit" and left me with "imicit." You're compounding the point. Enjoy being embittered and dwelling on aversive comparisons to others rather than working on making yourself a human worth engaging with. And as you aren't worth engaging with, have fun being bitter. I'm going to spend time with my family. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/24 12:09 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeYou are conflating benefits with needs. A need is something you cannot do without. Never mind that I never said humans should reduce themselves to only baseline needs. Bad faith interpretation and argument. You've also, in citing sources, conflated romantic relationships with sex. No one is going to say that the psychological outcomes of social rejection and isolation are positive and if our framework of need is something important or beneficial, then you can easily contend that relationships ar… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/24 11:56 AM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeAh yes, the very reason life exists on the planet and what the vast majority of humans have been doing for millennia isn't a need. Specious argument. People can survive and even thrive absent sex. It can serve an important role in one's life but labeling it a need elevates it to the level of oxygen, water, food, etc. It's a nice thing to have but is by no means essential to quality existence. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/24 04:33 AM |
| 5 | Why are women so picky compared to men?Yes. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/24 08:33 PM |
| 12 | Why are women so picky compared to men?In my experience, they really aren't. I've punched above my weight on at least two occasions in my adult life and usually see attractive women with less attractive men in public spaces. This is probably the first time I've seen or heard someone assert that the opposite is the norm. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/24 05:39 PM |
| 4 | Is it ethical to lie about my height on dating apps?I'm 5'7" and managed to get matches. I never lied and in fact included my height on my profile to weed out duds. Not sure that the matches you got are going to play out so well and it might be that you live further away rather than your height that presents an issue. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/07/24 02:13 PM |
| 7 | Why is being overconfident seen as so much better than having low confidence?Just to start this out, I wouldn’t really call myself “red-pilled”, more incel/Foreveralone adjacent. As I’ve tried to improve my outlook on dating, I’ve ofc ran into the suggestion of being more “confident”, and I think I understand why. The thing that still bugs me, even if it makes me a “nice guy”, is the idea that despite all the positive traits I feel I have to offer in terms of dating, it will always be overlooked due to my low confidence. Out of curiosity, what traits do you believe you h… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/24 03:19 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeCorrect. That's still extraordinarily young. I'm pushing 38 now. Didn't get into my current relationship until 33. My last relationshop relationship prior ended in 2014. It's common for people to want what they don't have. It's a well-documented phenomenon. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that the vast majority of people desire sex and human connection, want to be accepted, and consider sex to be part and parcel of the fundamental human existence. No question. But there's desiring it and then … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/24 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Is it okay to body shame men?I also just want to add, it's absolutely fine for us to disagree on this. The core is that we are both able to identify it as harmful. Mine is strictly down to the semantics of the issue which is far less important than whether or not it is harmful and whether or not it has an broad impact. Which is obviously does. And for those who are already dealing with insecurity, the entrenchment of the pejorative ultimately does serious harm regardless of whether or not the label "body shaming" strictly a… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/03/24 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it okay to body shame men?I think I get your interpretation, is it more like blonde, big breasted women being associated with bimbo's, but because we don't know her intelligence personally it isn't direct body shaming? I think that gets to the crux of it. Like when people say they just had a "blonde moment" when they forget something or misunderstand. It's peripheral but no doubt-related This is the bit I get stuck on, no matter how people use it, their intent or how it's supposed to be understood, it only works because … | /r/ExRedPill | 14/03/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Is it okay to body shame men?I am thoroughly annoyed because I just wrote a point by point response and my focus app closed reddit when I had about 15 seconds of typing left to relate. I'll try to summarise my response: I am not tiering harm. The phrase perpetuates damaging stereotypes and is predicated on body shaming. The person who coined it did so with a direct reference to bodies, but after it entered the zeitgeist, it became muddied. When people use it, they are not actually commenting on bodies. It is a direct refere… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/03/24 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Is it okay to body shame men?I'm coming at this from the perspective that body shaming is targeting an individual based on physical characteristics. The thing is, this isn't directly about a physical trait but a stereotyped association with said trait. It's practically a distinction without a difference in that it plays into the prejudices associated with penis size, but it is a poorly constructed comment on personality attributes that plays into stereotyped concepts. I would even go so far as to say that it perpetuates bod… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/03/24 11:03 AM |
| 3 | Is it okay to body shame men?That's kind of what I communicated in the TLDR. It isn't actually shaming an individual, but it perpetuates a prejudicial notion about penis size and its associated traits/characteristics. There's obviously no correlation between confidence and penis size. What's more, though, is it's just a novel continuation of the concept that a man who does X is "compensating for something" (implicitly, a small dick). But there is a slight difference. The issue is about carrying oneself as if one has a big d… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/03/24 03:15 PM |
| 6 | Is it okay to body shame men?TLDR: No it isn't okay, but the small dick energy is predicated on notions of confidence rather than actual dick size. It's not directly body shaming an individual but continuing a pejorative about dick size in general. Big dick energy and small dick energy are figurative statements that relates to whether or not an individual exudes easy confidence. It does not actually relate to the body as people with big dicks can exude small dick energy. Why it is a poorly constructed figurative statement i… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/03/24 10:56 AM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeThings started out very antagonistic and we seem to have hit a bit of a reset now so I'm going to operate in good faith. Considering only things I've done to specifically improve attractiveness... getting a haircut that matches my head shape, losing 20 kg, changing my wardrobe and dressing pattern with the help of two female friends, weekly therapist sessions, joining a local Toastmasters, and going to dance lessons. That's pretty good and more than most. Do you live in a small town, big city, o… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 03:29 PM |
| 1 | painful pms - "periods arent that normal, women used to be pregnant or breastfeeding for years"; i am feeling hopeless again, despite leaving red pillI second that this is a little weird to post here, but... dealing with painful pms, looking things up on reddit related to menstruation, i am ex red pill Very sorry to hear about the period cramps/pain. finding a comment from a thread i looked into saying that. it was a non red pill sub. but now im thinking im pretty much an idiot for menstruating. the only thing that just made me feel better enough to write about this, was knowing women dont experience menstruation for their entire life, either… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/03/24 06:59 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeNever met anyone who found me sexually or romantically attractive. What have you actually done to work on yourself? "Being a value add" hasn't made me sexually or romantically attractive to anyone. What has been "a value add" - from my anecdotal experience - has been having green eyes, being white, being over six feet tall, hitting on multiple people at once, and releasing sex tapes (to name a few). What value add do you provide? I am white, but none of the rest apply to me. I also grew up in mo… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/24 05:25 PM |
| 4 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?Ahhhh noted. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/02/24 03:57 AM |
| 7 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?Allegedly, the article mentioned in this post cites sources. Are you referring to the post itself? | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/24 08:46 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeAccording to you, it's completely acceptable for a person to be strapped onto a bed and be given IV nutrients for their entire life. They're surviving, so they should have nothing to complain about! Are you that dim? I said that sex isn't a need. I didn't say anything about being strapped onto a bed and sustained via medical means being acceptable. You are spouting off deranged straw man arguments. Never mind that every single study you cited shows the benefits of romantic relationships and has … | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/24 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisK. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisDefinition of global, since you can't Google it: relating to or embracing the whole of something, or of a group of things You mention a generation of women as a cohort. You talk about it as if it's an endemic behaviour within said group. Ergo, you make a global claim about them. It isn't about the planet or its population as a whole despite your strict insistence. You really are eristic. No substance. Just argument. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisSo if it's not in good faith, then I’m insulting myself for literally no reason? As to this, you're insulting yourself as a teenager. Most everyone I know cringes at their teenage behaviour, me included. Comparing my conduct to that of a teenager is not exactly benign. If I said that your behaviour reminds me of myself when I was an eristic teenager, any question that preceded it would not likely be received in good faith. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisIt's a very common context. I'm not using archaic or even obscure language. You keep suggesting I'm invoking the entire world's population after I've made it quite clear that I'm not. I'm well-aware of the meaning of the word pedantic. This simply isn't it. Any reasonable person knows I don't mean all women Yeah, you just mean a clear majority by implication and then said "talk to therapists" which narrows the pool of women in question to those who have seen therapists (already a rather small po… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisYou talk about context and reading comprehension. Look up the definition of global. Then move past the first definition. Doesn't read at all like a good faith question, mate. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisLol you went back to the entire globe piece. Alright, chief. Have a great day. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisThat which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Prove the claim or move on. Citing "talk to therapists" is self-defeating logic. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisYou deleted your three other comments and then come back with this. The original comment I made prodded you for misrepresenting what he said and even acknowledged in another comment. The rest is pure, unadulterated silliness. Go on and continue believing that women gravitate toward toxic men in any significant numbers. You literally made an assertion without evidence and I similarly dismissed it without evidence. You even acknowledge that it was anecdote. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisThe implication of such a statement is a clear, unambiguous majority. It is silliness. You are an agent of silliness. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisYou sure do like infantilizing women, are you sure you aren't a redpiller? You conveniently remove agency from women. I didn't say anything about women's abilities or agency. I spoke on his behaviour only. But nice attempted deflection. At best. You seem to not grasp language all that well despite the condescension. The irony is palpable It is. Too bad you misidentified it as well. A small minority of women fall into the camp you identify but go off. Ah, there's the classic "you're so wrong that… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Explain me thisNo, he clearly said that he can't do it to a woman who isn't interested in the first place. So women ARE already interested in him? So who exactly is being lied to or abused, then? OP doesn't owe women commitment any more than they owe him sex, which is to say he doesn't and they don't He literally owns up to playing games/manipulating. Initial interest and attraction can absolutely fade quickly, but you inaccurately portrayed what was said. Hyperbole at best. Utter nonsense at the worst. "An en… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 04:30 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeThe vast majority of people have had sex before 20. I've literally been told directly to my face that they would have gone out with me had I been tall and white. So much for "personality" lmao. Cool. Some horrible people not worth hooking up with told you something and you opted to double down on also being a terrible person. I have friends irl so its weird how you think that me typing words on an anonymous forum represents how I interact with real people. It's also funny how killing multiple pe… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Explain me this????? But usually the good ones have very superficial standards too, and I can't bullshit my way into a girls heart that is not interested in me in the first place because of outside circumstances He is literally saying he WOULDN'T do that, namely because he doesn't have to No, he clearly said that he can't do it to a woman who isn't interested in the first place. there is an entire generation of women that's now knowingly seeking out and dating toxic men because A) many prefer them for one reas… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 03:48 PM |
| 3 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeI'm sure the 85% of people who've had sex before 20 have had to 'work on themselves' so haaard LMAO Whataboutism. There's 15% who haven't and having sex isn't the same thing as being happy and/or in a relationship. Never mind that getting to the point of having sex often has a lot to do with personality factors. I'm sure my friend had to "work on himself" to be white and have women wondering whether his genitals were the same colour and have his girlfriend's mum praise her daughter for being abl… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 05:52 PM |
| 7 | What's the point of ditching the black/red pill when nothing will changeI didn't take the red pill until I was like 21. I knew about it and thought it was for dumb losers who hated women too much to get laid. Now I'm 22 and have taken the red pill, and I need to know why go back on this when it'll make no difference for me? My problem is that I'm too physically unattractive for a woman to want to sleep with me. If I stop believing in hypergamy and AFBB and all that shit, it's not gonnal be like I'll instantly become a chad like I desire. I can tell immediately that … | /r/ExRedPill | 09/02/24 12:27 PM |
| 28 | Something I noticed reading The Rational MaleConfirmation bias is very easy to lapse into. When someone provides a framework that confirms and conforms to your existing worldview, it provides an alternative to deep introspection and needing to make real, substantive changes to your personality. People really like easy answers and the easiest answers are the ones that provide you with a roadmap that doesn't require you to fundamentally change aspects of your internal sense of self. Because you're left to blame a system that has impeded you … | /r/ExRedPill | 08/02/24 06:46 PM |
| 26 | Are men inherently misogynistic?This would seem a very bizarre thing to be an ingrained belief at birth. Many boys are enamoured of their mothers in their childhood. Misogyny as inherent doesn't align to that pattern. It must therefore be learned. Unless men simply have a misogyny section of the brain that activates at puberty. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/02/24 12:37 AM |
| 2 | I'm beginng, how do you get girls to like you?I would say it is harder, in the aggregate, for a man to find a woman who is interested than it is for a woman, but it's likely relatively comparable in terms of difficulty of finding someone who is a good match. Two routes to the same destination. And if she gets with a bad match long-term, it's that much harder to recover on the other side. With that being said, I've known women who had a very hard time finding anyone who was reciprocally interested. They had crushes on me and I had zero inter… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/01/24 07:26 PM |
| 12 | I'm beginng, how do you get girls to like you?Guys who seek more relationships are often put aside here. It's like "how do i become more attractive" is treated like an absurd and nonsensical question. It gets addressed a lot. The biggest thing is that there is no one objective standard that will work. Lots of different approaches work for lots of different people. Other times, people just suggest things like "be yourself, be honest, be open" and other feel good advice. Immeasurable things that anyone might identify as. Yes, this is actually… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/01/24 03:30 PM |
| 5 | I am terrified of not being married with kids by the age of 35?I am an extreme introvert and love my child and time with them. With that said, I will definitely feel tired by day's end but it's nothing like hanging out in groups or anything. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/01/24 05:37 PM |
| 1 | What was the lure for RedPill?People seek out simple answers to complex questions and comforting answers to upsetting questions. There was an overarching, pervasive myth that somehow nestled into many people's brains that kindness begets attraction, so many boys/men naively assumed that if they were polite and inoffensive that it would reap benefits with women. Either they developed friendships (which, obviously that's what comes from being benign?) or they felt rejected because their crushes never seemed to reciprocate. Wha… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/01/24 04:07 PM |
| 3 | VirginityI never cared. I care more about personality traits. I technically wouldn't care about someone having even 100 partners, but most people who might have that many likely have dispositional incompatibilities with me. I had one partner who was a virgin of the however many partners I had. The rest were probably around 2 or 3 other than me. One was at around 40. None of that matters. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/01/24 03:53 PM |
| 13 | Were people more faithful back in the day? (Crosspost)I don't believe there's evidence to support decreased faithfulness. Never mind that moving onto the next seems different than a lack of being faithful. It suggests knowing one's value and seeking out someone who treats you as you deserve to be treated. But that's a whole other discussion. I guess in some frames, being able to leave would look like unfaithfulness but I usually see it in the context of infidelity and not commitment. If that's the intent, sure. Divorce being legal made divorce more… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/01/24 03:41 PM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyYou came with with a TLDR that didn't accurately summarise my point. That's where all of this devolved from. So if we're actually discussing the "original point", you haven't contributed anything. But to add to that, I reviewed the data and discounted the merit of facial symmetry as a relevant measurable trait. Anyway, you seem rather insufferable so I'm done with you now. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 08:36 PM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyWell, in pulling the research together, I found this one that challenges the established association based on research design. So it at least undermines, to a degree, the validity of past research findings based on research design. The journal, Symmetry, has an impact factor of 2.7, which is quite good. So there's at least a challenge to the prevailing research and this one came out in 2021 and I haven't kept up with the research. I would be curious to see more studies down the line. And here is… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 04:46 PM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyI think I see the disconnect. I think your issue is with the use of "objective" in that you think I'm suggesting universality of appeal. To clarify, I'm not. If anything, I might be better off saying "quantifiable" or "measurable" than objective. My use of objective was intended as, unlike eye colour, hair colour, or whatever other traits that are an either/or and can only be described qualitatively, facial symmetry is a spectrum, measurable, and assessment of whether or not a person's face has … | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyActually, that’s precisely what you’re doing. Every argument you’re trying to make is a direct contradiction to the original point. It really isn't. I have a very strong sense that we broadly agree with each other but are quibbling on the semantics. It's one thing to assert that certain characteristics are measurable and broadly associated with attractiveness assessments in the general population versus saying there is an objective standard of attractiveness. Those are incredibly different thing… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 03:26 PM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyYou are conflating the concept of objectively measurable characteristics with value judgements. That's a very grievous error. It's one thing to assert that certain characteristics are measurable and broadly associated with attractiveness assessments in the general population versus saying there is an objective standard of attractiveness. Those are incredibly different things. There is no objective standard of attractiveness, but there are objective traits associated with general assessments of a… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 03:06 PM |
| 7 | How many of you dated cluster B women?Can't speak to others but my relationship with someone diagnosed BPD was how I was introduced to it. I've only armchair diagnosed two people as having it, one who later received a diagnosis. The other... As far as I know, still no diagnosis. Anyway, neither of them were involved with me romantically. I just saw how they were toward others. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 04:01 AM |
| 1 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyBut they aren't all relative. Facial symmetry is predictive of some degree of attractiveness perception, but so are many other characteristics of much greater subjective value. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 03:55 AM |
| 0 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyYou can assign quantifiable values to some traits associated with attractiveness ratings. The rest is just variance. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/01/24 12:56 AM |
| 2 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyThat's a bit too reductive. You can measure traits associated with attractiveness, but there's too much variance for a universally accepted standard. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 05:59 PM |
| 5 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyYou might have been better off with this rather than a simple link to a wikipedia article as it better illustrates your intent than said article. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 02:55 PM |
| 9 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyThe point was that there is no universal standard. They were correct. There are objective metrics of which FA is but one. The point of a universal standard would be that if applying said standard, you would consistently arrive at the same conclusion. The existence of the variance means there are subjective factors that influence attraction beyond the scope of the objective ones. Ergo, attractiveness is not the product of an objective standard but rather a series of metrics, both objective and su… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 02:17 PM |
| 7 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyIn general, it is observed that women tend to be hypergamous, meaning they often seek partners of higher social status or with more resources. Observed by whom? This, however, isn’t a universal fact applicable to all women. This comes across as a copout from having to actually defend the point. Most research would suggest women are not in fact hypergamous and want reliability and stability in a relationship. While said stability can and often does include financial stability, it does not inheren… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 01:57 PM |
| 8 | High dating standards are certainly a big reason for more people being single and/or lonelyThat's an objective metric but not a standard. While you can absolutely find individuals whom a broad population can agree are attractive and even among the most attractive, you're liable to find much more disagreement. This is because there's no objective standard. Fluctuating asymmetry is correlated to attractiveness ratings just as several other variables are correlated to attractiveness. But it will always vary. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/01/24 01:49 PM |
| 3 | I'm failing to see how the idea of AF/BB and the 80/20 rule aren't realYet if you say "Women realize that guys who may not be conventionally attractive make better long term partners and focus less on outward appearance as they get older" normies, and most women will agree with you. Yet this is just AF/BB but sugar coated. So how is it not right? Where are the falsities? Those are different concepts. Never mind that it infers specific motives that may not even be specifically accurate and also institutes broad generalisations. For instance, you could likely argue m… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/01/24 12:50 AM |
| 1 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countNot true. Racism and sexism have specific definitions otherwise they would be meaningless. Your delusions does not mean there is no definition This whole exchange involves you deciding what I mean and blowing past what I have actually said. This isn't the first time I've engaged with you, but this is definitely the last. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 11:45 PM |
| 1 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countWe must belong to different species then, because I have no such control. You not realising it or refusing to acknowledge it isn't the same thing as not having it. No, I haven’t Cool. It's a normal and exceptionally common phenomenon. Proximity is one of the primary predictors of attraction. There are others. This can also influence preferences over time, i.e. is a means by which to augment one's preferences. It doesn't mean you'll be attracted to everyone you are around for lengths of time, obv… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 09:12 PM |
| 2 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countWhat. Are we from different universes? I have zero control over the type of woman I find attractive. I assume most people don’t. Are you saying otherwise? This has been researched. Lots of factors influence attraction and it is not hardset and is in fact quite malleable. There are certain things that will be hard limits for many people, but even things like sexual fluidity have been documented. Everyone has at least some control and the very kind of self-reflection/scrutiny I raised is one of th… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 07:14 PM |
| 2 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countDefense against what? What court of public opinion is it being defended in? Scrutiny or criticism. The fact that you have a preference does not in and of itself serve as a justification for said preference. If you don't care what people think, then this shouldn't really impede you in pursuing said choices. If you care about what other people think, it may. The crux of all that I have said is as follows: Preferences are not above outside criticism. Racism and sexism apply to the public sphere in … | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 05:51 PM |
| 3 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countSounds like that’s exactly what you are saying. Then let me be clear: a preference exists regardless of whether or not others approve of it. My point is that people are not obligated to approve of something just because it's a preference which is what your initial comment implies. Something being a preference is not an absolute defence. Again, why should anyone care if others respect their preferences? How is that anyone’s business as long as they aren’t doing anything unethical? This last sente… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 04:17 PM |
| 6 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countTake preferences to their logical extremes. I'm sure there are some things that even you would object to. Frankly, a refusal to scrutinise one's preferences and their underlying basis strikes me as both intellectually lazy and ethically dubious. But all of that is tangential to the point: you can have any number of preferences, but people are not duty bound to respect them nor should you expect to never catch flak for them. No one said that preferences are conditional upon anyone else's approval… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 03:22 PM |
| 5 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countIt absolutely matters why. If you don't want to date someone outside your own race because you deem them inferior to your own race, that's not a valid basis for a preference, at least not insofar to expect people to respect it. If your reason for taking issue with having multiple sexual partners is because you believe women with many partners to be used up, that's a misogynistic underpinning. If you believe in the sanctity of sex and want to reserve yourself for someone with the same values, tha… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 02:52 PM |
| 1 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countWhy is it wrong for me to prefer a woman with low body count? Is it wrong for me to want a woman who practices restraint more often than not? Why is "body count" the criterion? Moreover, if the conduct was from a relatively distant past and not representative of the individual's current values or conduct, is it actually even a relevant gauge of whether or not the person in front of you practices restraint today? It would seem a bit like judging a reformed addict by how they were in the throes of… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 02:49 PM |
| 7 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countI read your post history and the bigger problem was probably that you lied about your sexual past. Seems like she had repressed the sexually abusive memory rather than actively chosen deceit. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 02:43 PM |
| 2 | My bf broke up with me because of my body countSounds to me like he was looking for an excuse to bail and used misogynistic beliefs as his justification. Red pill adjacent at the very least. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 02:40 PM |
| 2 | Any men on here?I never aligned with redpill explicitly, but I did find myself going down PUA and other subs/online communities loosely aligned with the same value systems. I kind of reached a fork in the road. I was at least somewhat insulated by having female friends but the reality is that I was dealing with a lot of entitled attitudes and an independently developed Mgtow outlook. I think of it like most kinds of habits, beliefs, or addictions. There's no one thing that makes you change so much as an accumul… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/01/24 02:38 PM |
| 20 | Insecure that my partner would leave for a Black GuyI know that it's even kinda of a cringy topic to talk about. But yeah, Im pretty much insecure that any woman would eventually want to leave for big dicked black guy (which is stupid af, I understand). Has she given you any reason to doubt her loyalty? Has she ever expressed dissatisfaction with your endowment or sexual performance? I'm genuinely baffled how these notions even embed themselves in your mind. Might as well be equally concerned about a big-dicked circus clown. The specificity of th… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/11/23 01:48 PM |
| 2 | I used to hate certain types of people. Now I hate everyone equally is this progress?I read a chunk of your comments, so I just wanted to say I'm sorry for your upbringing and the apparent consequences thereof. Sexual harassment at work is inappropriate but hopefully you can get past having problems with the group they come from and instead take issue with the individuals who harass you. Not sure of your age, but that could also be a factor here as you wind your way through life. Either way, hopefully you can purge the hate or disdain you feel so you can just focus on you and yo… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/11/23 05:43 PM |
| 10 | Do women really have more options in dating then men and do they really start planning to be with a different guy weeks before the breakup?These YouTube’s like Fitxfearless keep saying that women plan weeks before the breakup with the next guy Utter nonsense. Some women may do this. Most do not. Most people do not. Break-ups have a cause and effect relationship beyond simply having someone new in the margins. Never mind that fostering alternatives actively undermines one's investment in a relationship. People who engage in this sort of conduct will never trust or invest emotionally in another person because they will always have an… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/11/23 05:21 PM |
| 3 | Do women like bad guys?Unfortunately, they haven't. Our friendship has waned more recently. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/11/23 04:09 PM |
| 7 | Do women like bad guys?I think you misunderstood my question. What I meant is that attraction is complex and there is nothing that is universally attractive to women just as there is nothing universally attractive to men. Most women I know aren't interested in the "bad boy" sorts. I usually assume there is something in someone's upbringing that has an effect when they gravitate toward abusive relationships. For instance, I have a friend whose father is an ex-con who has a very troubled relationship with men and has cy… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/11/23 03:55 PM |
| 7 | Do women like bad guys?Is there any characteristic that, in your experience, men as a whole are attracted to? As someone else stated, women aren't a monolith. A lot of people are attracted to confidence and some people conflate indifference to the opinions and feelings of others with confidence. But that aside, she is in an abusive relationship. What you have described isn't attraction dynamics but someone being broken and in a cycle of abuse. That's not something that women gravitate toward in any significant numbers… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/11/23 03:24 PM |
| 4 | Do men have friendships with women ?I have personally concluded that my negative disposition is why I seldom feel excited and instead feel nervous or anxious in most instances. At any rate, I think it is generally a good thing to find an optimistic lens through which to experience our lives. It makes us less unhappy with our circumstances. Of course, optimism should still be tethered to reality, but the way I have personally experienced infatuation or attraction has always been antagonistic. I would like to be able to read it thro… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/11/23 02:33 PM |
| 5 | Do men have friendships with women ?Ha. Yes. Excitement was meant to be the second word. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/11/23 01:59 PM |
| 5 | Do men have friendships with women ?The feeling of attraction is a weakness. this seems more like a cognitive bias than an objective statement I mean... If we're going to split hairs... That aside, the experience is a matter of perspective. For instance, the physical sensations associated with anxiety are extraordinarily similar to those experienced with anxiety. Arguably, the primary distinction is the associated cognitive appraisal of the situation. By a similar token, their description of attraction involves a positive appraisa… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/11/23 01:38 PM |
| 6 | Do men have friendships with women ?Yes. Friendships with women are great, particularly if not exclusively when both parties have a purely platonic understanding of the relationship. With that said, when one party isn't on the same page, they are fucking awful for the person who is the target of unrequited affection. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/11/23 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Insecurity that partner might leave for someone "bigger"There are mounds of books on Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. I have An Idiot's Guide copy on my headboard. I could recommend that. The other recommendation provided might help you identify some of the worse thoughts. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/10/23 12:32 PM |
| 9 | Isn't the core message of red pill to improve yourself?Let's pretend that is accurate. How does the movement claim a man ought to improve themselves? Does it encourage introspection, self-reflection? Therapy? Emotional growth? Empathy? I have everything positive to say about exercising, focusing on one's own needs first and then expanding outward later, but there's far more attached to the movement than that surface level stuff. The whole moniker itself is linked to seeing through a purported illusion. It isn't just a self-improvement bit, otherwise… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/23 08:30 PM |
| 5 | Here to learn....red pill is described by Wikipedia as a willingness to learn and or upsetting truths....what is wrong with that in principle?A willingness to learn upsetting truths is fine. But the pursuit of truth contained within the red pill movement is extremely debatable. There are many statistics that they cite that have no reliable support (80/20 principle and hypergamy as a norm for women at large are the two biggies I can think of). If one were truly vested in a truth finding mission, the lack of evidence backing myriad claims within the community would be incredibly off-putting. If anything, the community seems the be fuell… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/10/23 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Help, I’ve been 100% redpilled as a womanSingle mothers are garbage No. Until I became a father, I would not have wanted to date one unless she was everything I was looking for outside of that. Now, it would seem a valuable characteristic given my child would remain part of my life in a big way. The younger the woman, the more desirable At best a half-truth. I'm more attracted to people my own age and in the same life phases. Someone in their 20s is going to be a train wreck outside of a fling. Men see teenagers as ideal sexual beings … | /r/ExRedPill | 09/10/23 12:27 PM |
| 25 | This is my list of Redpill/MGTOW beliefs. I need help with challenging them- the world right now seems to confirm them.I will preface this with the fact that I am using personal anecdote as a counterpoint. Objective data largely doesn't exist for many of these, but it also doesn't exist to support the notions either. Nobody meets with each other in person anymore. Dating apps are the only viable way to date. I met someone by attending a party with former classmates from grad school. It didn't work out because of my own issues, but she was perfectly lovely and I wish her well. Nonetheless, social contacts are sti… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/09/23 02:13 PM |
| 9 | Was I wrong all alongYou need to be a taller guy to date in the USA preferably 6ft” I'm 5'7" and have had multiple girlfriends. I also got myriad first dates while advertising my height on OLD apps. “The 80/20 rule. Women find 80% of men unattractive if you aren’t a chad don’t even bother” There is zero, I repeat, zero empirical evidence to support this claim. People misread and misuse the OKC dataset and misrepresent its findings while also ignoring the many methodological issues with generalizing findings from a r… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/09/23 12:25 AM |
| 13 | Was I wrong all alongBest response. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/09/23 12:08 AM |
| 5 | Giving unconditional love = setting yourself up for failure?Healthy love will always have conditions. To have no conditions is to accept anything and everything they do, no matter what, and love them all the same. This is pretty much reserved only for children from their parents. And even then, there are reasonable limits that could apply. With that being said, you seem to be less discussing unconditional love (literally love without conditions) with kindness or traditionally romantic stereotypes and romantic/emotional displays. To those latter points, h… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/09/23 03:15 PM |
| 6 | My boyfriend is a red piller, help!I also was a stay at home Dad which contributed to my divorce as she viewed me less. But I did not pursue compensation when I divorced because I cared about her raising the kids more. I guess everyones situation is different. If you were the stay at home spouse, why did she wind up with custody/raising the kids? | /r/ExRedPill | 30/08/23 11:44 AM |
| 6 | I'm still red pilledNarrow social psychology is still social psychology. If I were to say that something isn't biology but is rather about sexual reproduction, respondents would rightly note this doesn't make it distinct from biology. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/08/23 09:01 PM |
| 5 | Why are people drawn to the Redpill?It provides a heuristic lens that is convenient in its simplicity and superficially matches with real world observations and personal experiences. It's a product of the human tendency to seek easy answers and pursue low-effort solutions to complex problems. It's like the solutions populists put out for long-standing socioeconomic problems. When you have to exhaust more energy to rebut the argument than to prop it up, it makes naysayers seem like they are almost trying to hide something. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/07/23 01:17 PM |
| 7 | *sigh* let me try this again... "women are attracted to men with muscles"It's considerably less simple than that. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/07/23 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women be friends?Most of my closest friends are women and my girlfriend is fine with it. She's even supportive of my friendship with a couple exes. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/23 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Can men and women be friends?I would say how they respond is usually a strong indicator of which type of guy it was in the first place. The ones who were never friends are usually going to have a fit. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/07/23 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Things about the redpill that are hard to disproveSociety lied about what women want. Are you nice or are you polite? When you do kind things, do you have expectations of some sort of ROI? Because, without fail, every time I have ever heard the "nice guys finish last" trope repeated, it's been a guy who conflates being polite with being kind. Moreover, it isn't as if women are interested in kindness in a vacuum. MAJORITY of girls are attracted or chase the "bad boys", not just broken girls: You raise evidence of it happening in real life and th… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/07/23 02:15 PM |
| 8 | Do women care about men's body count? (Just want your opinion)I know for a fact that some do. I also know that many don't. I think it can vary based on the actual scale of the figure but more often than not the relevant point is the person and the "body count" can be instructive of personal traits. For instance, someone with a high body count, of either sex, may well be incredibly impulsive. It may also indicate that they have commitment issues. It may also indicate that they are difficult to deal with. Or it may indicate that they are sexually liberated. … | /r/ExRedPill | 29/06/23 07:06 PM |
| 5 | I wish I was a woman. Life would be easier.Most men feel some attraction to most same-aged women People tend to gravitate toward people who are ranked similarly in terms of appearance, in an online dating context. While you cannot readily infer real-world consequences from this, it stands to reason that both men and women will trend toward similar outcomes in the real world with some outliers. In my experience, attractive women are far more likely to be with unattractive men rather than the inverse. And there's some evidence to suggest t… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/23 01:22 PM |
| 5 | I wish I was a woman. Life would be easier.Do you know hwo painful it is to be rejected? Yes. They do. Because being bailed on as a friend is not inconsequential. It hurts. Particularly when you thought you were close and it turned out it was predicated on something else. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/23 12:52 PM |
| 5 | I wish I was a woman. Life would be easier.It's annoying on account of the fact that they lose a friend when those feelings aren't reciprocated. If one of my friends came out with feelings for me, and it became clear that the only reason they entertained friendship with me was because of a crush on me, I would be incredibly annoyed. Never mind that reciprocal attraction isn't entirely impossible to gauge. If it was as simple as a guy being interested and a woman turning him down but they were both able to adapt to still being friends, it… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/23 12:48 PM |
| 1 | "Redpill" doesn't exist.I hear some people dismissing basic facts just because their mind lumps it in with "redpill". ...such as? I'm very curious about such facts. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/06/23 02:59 PM |
| 1 | I'm still a FeministI am an advocate for men's rights. I am an opponent of what I've directly witnessed as the MRA movement. I am invoking my direct experiences in my comment to reflect just that: personal experience. I'm also aware of it being consistent with the experiences of my broader peers. So when I suggest that it has usually been my experience, I am saying exactly what I mean. I think there are many areas where men desperately need support. Mental health is one arena in particular that I'm especially passi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 05:42 PM |
| 1 | I'm still a FeministYou're the hostile one here kicking up a fuss over some alleged "wrongthink". The MRA subreddit rules make it clear that anti-women sentiments aren't allowed, quit gaslighting us! Sorry that my experiences with anti-woman rhetoric in those subreddits somehow constitutes gaslighting you. If you can't see how the conduct reflects on the community and gives fodder for dismissing the movement as whataboutism and hostile toward women, and don't see how that further undermines its purported interests … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 04:23 PM |
| 1 | I'm still a FeministIt's much easier to rein in bad actors when you're part of a small community than it is in a massive one. Most feminists I know will quickly shut down discourse that's toxic and anti-man and contend that men are victims of patriarchy to the same end that women are (whether you buy into the concept of patriarchy is another thing entirely). And yes, feminists will generally deny that misandry exists. But pretending that a smaller group has less of a need to rein in its worst actors is absurd. For … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 12:11 PM |
| -1 | I'm still a FeministVery specifically, focusing on elevated rates of DV against men as evidence that it isn't as much of a problem for women, which tends to ignore the consequences (such as severe physical injury or even death) that female victims are much more likely to face. Both are problems and both deserve to be addressed in good faith, but most times it has been raised in discussions I have been having, it's done in a way that is less about "we need to address this" and more "therefore DV is mostly a problem … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 12:15 AM |
| -6 | I'm still a FeministYou just said DV and custody are non-issues for men. I actually said that custody issues are misleading and that DV rates cited often use cherry-picked data. I didn't say either were non-issues. And yeah, there are men's issues. But the lens, from what I've seen/read/heard is most often that of middle class straight white men. I'm specifically in this group because I fully expect a broader, intersectional lens. But the MRA label itself is what I've found at issue, not specifically activism for e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 12:12 AM |
| -1 | I'm still a FeministYou said: Any time I engage with someone who identifies as an MRA I actually said... they are usually dismissive of women's issues and raise matters like child custody (misleading) or DV rates (an important issue but also a slightly misleading one with cherry-picked data) and all too frequently dodge issues like issues affecting black, gay, queer, indigenous, etc. men. "Usually" being an extremely important qualifier. But whatever, it's your personal experience. But that doesn't translate to the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 12:08 AM |
| -6 | I'm still a FeministI identify as an MRA and I'm not dismissive of women's issues, nor race issues, nor gay issues, etc. I strive for an egalitarian world. And most of the regulars here are with me on that. And while I think that's great, that has been far from my experience with those who adopt the label. I specifically said usually because that has usually been my experience. The downvotes, rather than sincere engagement, kind of confirm for me that I've kicked up something. It does not. That is really misreprese… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/23 11:21 PM |
| -28 | I'm still a FeministThe problem with the Men's Rights movement is that it tends to be taken over by whataboutists and a mischaracterisation of reality. Any time I engage with someone who identifies as an MRA, they are usually dismissive of women's issues and raise matters like child custody (misleading) or DV rates (an important issue but also a slightly misleading one with cherry-picked data) and all too frequently dodge issues like issues affecting black, gay, queer, indigenous, etc. men. In essence, the movement… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/23 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Don't understand why y'all hate redpill when everything they say is not all falseYou are creating a real no true Scotsman fallacy if you're pretending that all the discourse on hypergamy, the 80/20 rule, etc. Aren't predicated on misogyny/taught as part of RP. Dude is in here posting about how he is a virgin at 26 because of his height and you apparently don't see the issue with it. You also suggest that feminism has made women fear men rather than men making women fear men. Most of my friends in college had an experience with sexual harassment or sexual assault. Most had mu… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/06/23 07:31 PM |
| 6 | Don't understand why y'all hate redpill when everything they say is not all falseGoing to get heavily downvoted but I don't care this is the truth. Ironically they speak so badly of the very same people they say they want to help. Speaking badly of the red pill ethos isn't directly instructive of speaking ill of those tricked into it. Maybe it's because it doesn't line up with their believes or agenda? Yes. Oh, and also many people were harmed by it (either through participating or being partnered with someone else who was red pilled. Invalidating men's experiences and putti… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/06/23 05:14 PM |
| 10 | Don't understand why y'all hate redpill when everything they say is not all falseHeight is a factor in attraction but it is just one factor. Physical fitness is another factor. Physical attractiveness is another factor. But the thing is... There are myriad aspects that determine one's relative attractiveness from person to person. Fatalistic determinist views that being 5'8" (or shorter) inevitably results in perpetual virginity is not only false (I am 5'7" and definitely not a virgin) but likely feeds into why many men struggle to find someone. They are often so set on self… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/06/23 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Should men still be traditional?No one should be held to traditional norms of any kind. Tradition is not an arbiter of what is correct or best. They are merely an indicator of what has historically been encouraged/fostered. Never mind that there is a difference between someone emulating something because it makes them happy and someone being pressured to conform. The former is fine (be traditional if it makes you happy) and the latter is terrible (within reason). Obviously I'm not saying all norms are bad. Ethical norms, in my… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/05/23 12:15 PM |
| 14 | Is it true women with high body counts are unable to truly commit to their long term partners?From a simple logical perspective, one would need to assert why X number of partners impacts women but not men. Even assuming there were some sort of correlation, this suggests a line of causality where because the women had X partners, she is now unable to commit. The reality is that it would make far more sense that women who are not primed to commit to a relationship are more likely to have X+ partners. The latter seems much simpler/more logical than there being some sort of magical switch th… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/05/23 02:53 PM |
| 3 | What is everyone's thoughts on r/seduction?It comes down to what your actual goals are as to whether or not any of it constitutes "good" advice. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/23 08:14 PM |
| 20 | Are most women really attracted to dominant "alpha males"?This question would be best directed to a forum populated primarily by women. It would be better still to dig through research on attraction including in cross-cultural contexts. That all being said... My experience and what I've read in the past indicates that, no, they are not. What women tend to be attracted to are things such as confidence, security, kindness, intelligence, humour, etc. The specific alpha male archetype promoted by the manosphere can correlate to some of these features, but … | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/23 04:47 PM |
| 10 | Men who have left Red Pill, what was the first falsehood you recognized that led to you starting to doubt the rest of their claims?The OKC dataset doesn't even say what they claim it does. At all. Which makes it even worse. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/04/23 06:17 PM |
| 4 | Why would women want to be monogamous?When they receive so much attention. Assumption in want of evidence. Most women don't. But even for those who do... There's an analogy I think I saw floated here a while ago: For men, finding someone to settle down with is like looking for drinking water in the desert. For women, it's like looking for drinking water in a swamp. (Edit: it was online dating, now that I recall) Even where women do get quantity of attention, that speaks nothing of the quality of the source. Never mind what they are … | /r/ExRedPill | 26/04/23 10:05 PM |
| 2 | If RP men claim that it is within their biological nature to “exercise their options”, why are so many women still against it?I'm not going to speak as any kind of strict religious authority, but the way I've understood it is that being wealthy essentially tends to corrupt one's goodness in the eyes of God due to the emphasis it requires on the material, verging on idolatry. Some have suggested that it is actually a reference to a gate that existed in Jerusalem (no evidence for it) or that while it is difficult, since all things are possible through the lord, it's a caution against over-emphasis on material possessions… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/03/23 02:43 PM |
| 5 | If RP men claim that it is within their biological nature to “exercise their options”, why are so many women still against it?There's so much subjectivity to what constitutes being a Christian at this point. At least with the Catholic church there was a kind of authoritative assertion of what certain passages meant, but nowadays you have mounds of people reading ahistorical and false narratives into various passages. Luke 18:25 is perhaps the most egregious example I can think of. People try to invent ways to create justification for behaviour that was very much counter to Christian teachings because it is convenient r… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/03/23 01:25 PM |
| 4 | People say male privledge doesn't exist what are privledges males have that females don't in society? (List in bullet points)We are talking about aggregate effects and beliefs. I suppose you would need to assess why she doesn't fear for her safety versus why he does and then you may well identify a disparity, but not based on gendered norms. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/03/23 12:52 AM |
| 10 | People say male privledge doesn't exist what are privledges males have that females don't in society? (List in bullet points)Men are more likely to be the victim of a violent crime. Men are also more likely to be the perpetrators of a violent crime. Both of these facts are beside the point. More relevantly, though, the feeling of safety/security is not something to be overlooked. Correlation dose not equal causation. Of course, but correlation is requisite for causation. Simply dismissing an observation because it is merely correlated is not a valid point of argument. The alternative argument is that an established pa… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/03/23 08:12 PM |
| 13 | People say male privledge doesn't exist what are privledges males have that females don't in society? (List in bullet points)You can have pretty and rich privilege (or lack it) and still experience male privilege. While there are indisputably advantages to being rich AND pretty, regardless of gender, we can readily look at the demographics of the wealthiest people and see that there's a skew toward a particular demographic (white, able-bodied, heterosexual men) which provides an evidentiary basis for claims of a specific kind of privilege. That doesn't mean that everyone will benefit in the same ways or that simply by… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/03/23 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Young men invisible until 30?What I find odd about that premise is the fact that one's total potential dating age bracket might expand, but the actual availability within each respective age group is reduced due to the volume of people who are married or already in long-term relationships. I wouldn't expect it to be a significantly higher volume so much as perhaps a greater awareness of how to access the available pool. Anyway. Dating in my 30s got me a lot of dates but few prospects. Better quality, though, just because we… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/23 02:26 PM |
| 12 | How to deal with muscle dysmorphia?At some level, you must know this is irrational. I am 5'7"/170 cm tall. I have run the gamut from scrawny (lightest at my current height was 117 lbs) to overweight (heaviest being 185 lbs). I have managed to get girlfriends. Interestingly, me at my most fit was when I struggled the most to find a girlfriend. This also happened to be when I was in my 30s in a university town. Everyone was too young for me. It wasn't until I moved to a larger city when my options opened back up again. And I know y… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 11:05 PM |
| 2 | About the new hamza video on microplasticsThey need to be very clear about their meaning before you give them that much credit. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/03/23 05:31 PM |
| 6 | “Why would he want you? He can get younger.”Also because I’m having a shitty luck in dating I feel like it’s affirming the statement. I think everyone has some degree of shitty luck in relationships. The big thing is to try to keep perspective. Availability heuristic can be a big drag on keeping a realistic perspective. No idea how old you are, the context within which the comments were made, but generally... People say shit like that for the purpose of hurting you rather than it being predicated on anything real. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/03/23 01:11 PM |
| 6 | About the new hamza video on microplasticsWe should obviously be concerned about the effects of plastics and our consumption of plastics, but it is a big, big leap to assert that it is feminising men. Even if we were to attribute the decline in male fertility, that isn't the same thing as being feminised. If he had stopped at we should be concerned about microplastics, it would be a broken clock moment. He jumped several leaps and bounds forward. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/03/23 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Hello there, i don't know if that's right place to ask but, as former redpill/toxic masculine guy, i would like some advice/guidance always taught that never date single mom, now i found myself in this relationship, and I'm still wondering that this makes me any less of a man??Others have done a good job, but I'm going to jump in for another opinion. Hello there, i don't know if that's right place to ask but, as former redpill/toxic masculine guy, i would like some advice/guidance always taught that never date single mom, now i found myself in this relationship, and I'm still wondering that this makes me any less of a man?? Depends on how you define a man. I don't think there's any useful definition that would specifically exclude being with a woman who has kids of he… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:50 PM |
| 17 | Why do so many men get so angry when they see another man in a committed relationship with a single mother?Can someone explain the psychology behind this? I think it likely varies, but it ultimately applies to a person committed to a toxic mental framework. Some men are averse to the idea of investing resources into another man's offspring because they think they have an obligation to have kids of their own and don't want to take resources away from their own potential offspring. If someone can find happiness while stepping out of the framework, rather than confront the cognitive dissonance that come… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/03/23 05:21 PM |
| 7 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?Healthy femininity would be someone who is demure, very feminine fit, that kind of thing, and would be a good nurturing mother. Think of I guess traditionally, what a woman would be like in the past . So rather than using an ambiguous term like "healthy femininity", you should likely invoke "traditional femininity" to avoid confusion. A lot of women nowadays because of being in careers, they act more like a man and very masculine, which isn’t attractive. Elaborate on this. What masculine traits … | /r/ExRedPill | 02/03/23 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?Just as well. Listen, all disagreement aside: have a good rest of your day. I mean that. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?Did you even read my comment? I responded to everything and pointed to inconsistencies in what I was saying and what you responded to. You’re going back to the mixed gender group thing that I already said we’re not going it agree on and all of your comments in your latest reply keep going back to that. That was literally the entire point of my initial foray into this discussion which didn't even involve a response to you directly. You responded to me, challenged my contention, and then when it b… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?It takes time to build friendships and the issue is friendships between men and women often result in one or the other developing feelings, which muddies the waters. I agree with you. The fundamental issue I'm trying to get at, however, is that befriending women can ultimately do a great deal to undo/challenging existing preconceptions about women. I think there is significant value in it as long as one goes in with only friendship in mind. You’re pushing the idea that men suffering from a crisi… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 09:20 PM |
| 4 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?That’s a perplexing response. You’re promoting the value of mixing genders discussing this but dismissing the value of a group discussion. That only leaves 1 option: a 1-1 talk from a man to a woman. That seems like a great recipe for an awkward conversation. I am promoting the value of having a mixed gender support network. I also didn't dismiss the value of a group discussion. I very specifically challenged the assertion that a group discussion is the only avenue. I never said it wasn't an opt… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 07:55 PM |
| 3 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?It’s about men who feel like they’re undesirable and unattractive to women. Uh-huh. What do you think a mixed gender group would end up talking about in regards to that topic? Well, for one, you are emphasizing that it needs to be a group discussion, which precludes one-on-one with either mixed or same-sex friends. That aside, it would vary based on the membership of the group and individual emotional intelligence of its specific members, it would depend on how the subject is raised, etc. If it … | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 07:25 PM |
| 4 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?Anecdotal and misses important context. You’re stripping away important meaning behind my comment. Please don’t invalidate my experience like that. Yes it is anecdotal but it's to demonstrate a point that the distinction is a self-imposed one rather than an essential one. That’s great and I’m happy that works for you. You might be in a better place and be able to navigate mixed gender support groups better than some. If that’s the case, then my message isn’t directed towards you. Perhaps so. Lik… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 06:54 PM |
| 7 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?It’s not a matter of excluding women. It’s just that this particular network is better served by the male camaraderie. I have female friends. They work just as well as male friends for support. It’s similar to how you’d talk to your buddies about certain issues you wouldn’t mention to your wife/gf or why you’d ask your accountant for tax advice instead of your doctor. Never really had that particular distinction between male friends and female friends. Your professional network would obviously b… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 04:57 PM |
| 6 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?Once we as a whole lift each other up then we’re overall in a better position to be able to seek relationships and help each other if those relationships fail. Honestly, this gendered dynamic of needing to establish camaraderie specifically with men is part of the problem, in my view. I personally found more success in building support networks of men and women rather than narrowly restricting myself to men alone. It also helped me get past a lot of the hang-ups and generalisations I held about … | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 03:02 PM |
| 6 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?I mean... Why do you think men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today? I don't think that. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/most-americans-experience-feeling-dissatisfied-with-body-looks-from-time-to-time Those most likely to report being dissatisfied with how their bodies look include women (83% vs. 74% of men), younger adults (86% of those ages 18-34 vs. 75% of those 55+), and those with a college degree (82% vs. 75% of those with … | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 02:37 PM |
| 7 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?There's a whole host of context to that figure. Such as the number of men who would die in war, occupational hazards, slaughtering men and boys during conquest and taking women as spoils of war, etc. Never mind that this data trend doesn't carry into modern times where the figures are closer to equal. 85% of women and 76% of men in a US-based survey had children. (PDF Warning). So it's yet another statistic the manosphere plucks absent context to bend to a warped and ultimately misleading narrat… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 02:29 PM |
| 9 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?Look at who has the kids it’s not the emotional man who make average money or don’t make as much as them. Women say they want an emotional drive, but the emotional guys aren’t having kids First, you are talking about women as if they are a hivemind/monolith. Second, there are much easier explanations as to who has kids versus who doesn't. The more traditionally oriented a couple is, the more likely they are to have kids (and more of them). It isn't a cabal of women electing to prevent "emotional… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 02:20 PM |
| 10 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?we should learn to prioritize our own kind - that is men, not women - like women already do. I would say that is taking the wrong message away from the crux of the matter. I just liken it to the oxygen mask on a plane; get yourself into the right space first and then start to focus outward. It doesn't need to be an "us" versus "them" ethos. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 02:10 PM |
| 11 | Why do you think young men seem way more worried about being undesirable and unattractive in dating than young women today?I mean, there’s also a lack of discussion of healthy femininity today, which is hugely lacking in today’s society. How do you define "healthy femininity"? Most men just want a relationship so they can have kids and have a family to take care of Do you have a source for this or is it a feeling based on your local interactions? The truth is the women are sex. Objects and men are success objects . I would say, way more women objectify men for their success than men objectifying women My experience … | /r/ExRedPill | 01/03/23 02:07 PM |
| 1 | I can't take it anymore can someone please tell me where the redpill reddit are?Ok but the difference is that I can interact with flat earthers. And it is in that interaction that their ideals fall apart. You shouldn't need that interaction to realise their folly, though. Imagine needing to interact with every conceivable perspective directly. You'd run out of time for any day-to-day functioning. The premise doesn't need to be scrutinised directly to see its faults. That is what I'm getting at. If these 2 things were equivalent everyone would gladly show RP ideology because… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/02/23 01:39 AM |
| 1 | I can't take it anymore can someone please tell me where the redpill reddit are?Hear me out would they not be saying the same about this exact reddit. Just because group X would be saying the same thing about group Y doesn't mean that group X is equally valid. It would be like... I don't know... Saying that since flat-earthers would say "round-earthers" are unscientific and ignoring all of the evidence that proves them wrong, that both sides have equal merit and should both be heard out. The argument to moderation is a logical fallacy that the truth lies somewhere in the mi… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/02/23 10:48 PM |
| 15 | How can it be possible that there is virtually zero nuance in this discussion, that you are either firmly planted on one end of the spectrum or the other with absolutely no balanced take to be found?It is very possible for a side in a discussion to be 100% wrong or near enough to scarcely make a difference. To that end, the argument to moderation truly only applies in instances where it is warranted. To apply that in the context of RP, it would matter primarily what argument is being raised to argue a point of nuance. What exactly is of value or supported in RP that warrants "balance" on the subject? And if there is something, is it RP exclusive or can it be found elsewhere in something tha… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/23 11:11 PM |
| 3 | just had a thought while on "that" one websiteDoes this website start with a numeral? | /r/ExRedPill | 18/02/23 05:22 PM |
| 2 | I'm jealous of other races who date white womenThis is the factual response. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/02/23 03:41 PM |
| 6 | Hey r/exredpill, question; How do I tell my girlfriend that she sucks at being a girlfriend?You're unfortunately still being vague. "Common human decency" and "good morals" might bring one thing to mind for me and another thing entirely for you. What specific things should a successful girlfriend be doing, in your mind? E.g. sharing household chores, contributing to shared household expenses, being emotionally supportive, being a social support, somehow otherwise contributing to your well-being, enjoyable to be around, etc. If you've actually tried to discuss your feelings of inequalit… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/02/23 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Hey r/exredpill, question; How do I tell my girlfriend that she sucks at being a girlfriend?What, to your mind, constitutes being a good girlfriend (or being good at being a girlfriend)? | /r/ExRedPill | 17/02/23 07:10 PM |
| 7 | Why do red pill YouTube channels exist? They’re all sexist and should be removed from YouTube. On a side note I really love this subreddit. I really hope it always exists it’s helped me a lot.Hate speech legislation in Canada is very, very restrained in nature and basically requires an exceptional standard be reached to be enforced. Barring calling for genocide, there isn't much in the way of restriction (mild hyperbole but not by much). | /r/ExRedPill | 17/02/23 02:31 AM |
| 3 | No one talks about the loneliness men go through.A lot of dudes hear about women wanting a man who's kind, funny, respectful, etc. Essentially, just be a good person and you're bound to find someone. Plenty of men try to be kind and find nobody, which obviously causes frustration. A great many men conflate kindness with politeness and also get embittered when their politeness doesn't reap recognition as a "Nice Guy." The problem is that if your "kindness" is a performative function predicated on motives other than simply to be kind (i.e. to ge… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/02/23 08:33 PM |
| 1 | No one talks about the loneliness men go through.But why is it worth mentioning here? It's a fact that there are creepy men at gyms just as it's a fact that some women misinterpret a man's behaviour as being sex-motivated rather than benign. Those women are often some who have been creeped on before but also hamming it up for exposure/views. What bearing does a tiny fraction of influencers, who likely have experienced actual instances of sexual harassment in addition to the imagined ones, have on the discourse of this forum? Does it strictly r… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/02/23 08:10 PM |
| 15 | No one talks about the loneliness men go through.As far as I'm aware, that was one influencer. She was called out thoroughly by the bulk of the internet and she, as far as I know, pulled back from social media. The fact that this person was called out for their garbage conduct kind of indicates this isn't really an issue isn't much of an epidemic. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/02/23 12:55 AM |
| 23 | How low is the female sex drive compared to the male one?I think one of the mistakes Red Pillers make is to think that women like sex as much as men, this would explain why they think women crave alpha men or handsome Chads. There isn't really any evidence to suggest women don't like sex as much as men or that their sex drive is significantly less than that of men. While research has generally shown a lesser swx drive among women cross-culturally, I am unsure if there are many cultures out there where women's sexuality hasn't been repressed and openly… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/02/23 03:35 PM |
| 23 | How low is the female sex drive compared to the male one?You seem to be seeking evidence to support a conclusion rather than open to what is being given to you which contradicts said conclusion. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/02/23 03:16 PM |
| 2 | How to stand out as a mediocre guy?Everything what people learn in their 20s. Basically who you are romantically, socially and sexually compatible with. Because they are important when it comes to chosing a partner. Many people date around a bit before they realize what they really want. And I lack that experience. On the other hand, most women my age look to settle down as soon as possible. It seems like you think that them wanting to settle down precludes you being able to date. I dated one person at a time throughout my life. … | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/23 05:26 PM |
| 3 | How to stand out as a mediocre guy?Depends where you live. In NYC where I currently live, my income (around 200k) is just enough to have a halfway comfortable life without roommates. That doesn't make your income average. That makes NYC expensive. Median household income in NYC is, apparently, $67,046. So you effectively make three times as much as the average household in NYC. That isn't average. At all. Honestly, I am not sure if I am ready for a long term relationship, especially with someone who wants to settle down for good.… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/23 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Why does exredpill seem to be full of angry women who want to prove their worth and prove why RP men are all the same 🤦♂️🤦♂️ seems like blue pill is the female red pill.Lol. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/02/23 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Does being a virgin at 20 make you an incel by default?I would say that the term itself is a useless one that people apply to themselves for the sake of throwing themselves a pity party. Not having had sex by 20, 30, even 40 is basically irrelevant to someone's value as a person and their societal contributions. Overt focus on sex is also generally alienating and off-putting when interacting with women unless it's someone you know who has reciprocated interest, so it's generally a lens that is great to step away from. Ultimately, if the label did te… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/02/23 12:56 AM |
| 22 | I hate men dating cultureI have had about a dozen girlfriends over my life. Not one of them did I meet via cold approach. It isn't a necessity but having a decent social network sure is. Edit: I met them while in high school, randomly through chance meetings with people I knew, through friends, parties, university, dating apps, and one through an online community where we befriended each other. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/02/23 11:50 PM |
| 6 | What is the actual reason behind the huge gender disparity on dating apps? Why are close to 80% of major dating apps’ users men?I think that there's a subset of men who aren't really comfortable cold-approaching women and lack robust social networks to meet women via conventional or traditional means. Women, on the other hand, tend to have those social networks more clearly established and therefore are better equipped to be able to meet the men they are interested in. There's also the fact that lot of these apps are characterised as hookup apps and therefore you get a certain swath of men approaching as if that's their … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/02/23 09:48 PM |
| 10 | Are there any ‘universal laws’ to dating at all?Do you mean universal as in it works on everyone, for everyone? Probably not. Shared values helps. Friendship as a foundation helps. Being physically fit helps. Being physically attractive helps. Being intelligent helps. But the reality is that not every person is looking for the same things (be it conscious or subconscious) and therefore the variance will pretty much negate any advantage that a strategy could provide. The "strategy" that worked best for me was befriending people, expanding my s… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/02/23 11:43 PM |
| 6 | There's something off about the red-pill, but I can't put my finger on itevery couple is “looks-matched” Statistically, most couples are. cold approach is the best first step for socializing with girls Do they mean socialising or trying to pursue? I'm pretty much asking rhetorically as I know it's the latter. This is fucking dumb. Ample research shows friendship is the beat foundation for relationships. guys should be allowed to flirt with other guys’ girlfriends (“cause maybe she’ll be happier with that new guy, and her boyfriend should be fine with that”) I would c… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/02/23 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeI pretty much agree whole-heartedly, but if someone wants to claim something like this and suggests they have the evidence to back it up, I'll hear them out. In this case, he even claimed to be a psychiatrist. Lo and behold, the study unsurprisingly doesn't support the premise. It's core is disliking women and performative masculinity That is the whole grift in a nutshell. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | How can you be happy knowing that you have never dated and likely will never date beause of your low attractiveness?How old are you?I Edit: I'm assuming 26? | /r/ExRedPill | 02/02/23 03:43 PM |
| 7 | Is it true that on average women have less dating options once they are over 30 while men have more dating options as they gain wealth and status??No one said men like sex more.. Yeah, we already went over that. The claim is that women are pickier.. Yes, which I challenged in literally this last comment. They might have sex just as much, but just with the guy who checks those boxes. Except that's been called into question of late. Which makes perfect sense evolutionarily because a pregnancy is so risky and expensive for women while it is basically no risk at all to men. Yes, evolutionary psychology suggests this, but has been questioned mo… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/02/23 01:42 AM |
| 6 | Is it true that on average women have less dating options once they are over 30 while men have more dating options as they gain wealth and status??Men value looks more than women. So most women are not going to sleep with unattractive men who do not check some other evolutionary box. Ah, so weighing evolutionary psychology. I would actually recommend you read that article when time permits. It does a lot to challenge the underlying assumptions of ev. psych. I promise that this is not as concrete and valid a concept as you might think. Most men will sleep with any woman of even below average attractiveness without her needing to check any o… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/02/23 05:23 PM |
| 7 | Is it true that on average women have less dating options once they are over 30 while men have more dating options as they gain wealth and status??Sorry, your statement that most men will have sex with pretty much anyone to around average attractiveness sort of implies that women are fundamentally different. And while women are more likely to eschew short-term sexual encounters than men are based on whatever research I can find, I cannot, however, find information to indicate they are ultimately more prone to a conservative strategy when a fling is not intended. Never mind that there's a fairly entrenched narrative that women want sex less… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/02/23 03:18 PM |
| 7 | Is it true that on average women have less dating options once they are over 30 while men have more dating options as they gain wealth and status??Women are also horny and broad variances exist within sexuality between both sexes. The notion that women are less horny than men is essentially a myth. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/02/23 01:24 PM |
| 3 | What is ya’lls opinion on the fact women file for divorce 70% of the time, 90% if she is college educated. The vast majority of the time for financial reasonsWhat is ya’lls opinion on the fact women file for divorce 70% of the time, 90% if they are college educated, mainly for financial reasons??? I am exceptionally curious what specifically in the article led you to conclude that financial drivers were the primary ones. Specifically, what apart from the fact that women have increased financial independence from men and therefore the ability to leave a marriage that isn't working, led you to conclude that... ...The vast majority are saying the didn’t… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/02/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | So, how does a guy supposed to get confidence and be interesting to women?What are your hobbies? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/02/23 02:14 AM |
| 11 | Is it true that on average women have less dating options once they are over 30 while men have more dating options as they gain wealth and status??I should have specified “marriage” options as it is kinda common knowledge that most men will sleep with anyone willing who is even of average attractiveness. Here's a fun essay that serves to counter elements of that implied narrative: https://theconversation.com/data-should-smash-the-biological-myth-of-promiscuous-males-and-sexually-coy-females-59665 I've got more on that. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/02/23 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Is this RP statistic true?Presumably late on debt payments. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/01/23 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeYeah, that isn't the 80/20 concept. Moreover, they tried to explain the basis for women rejecting more frequently. It isn't based in the data and hinges on a hypothetical connection to evolutionary pressures. Not the same thing as a study supporting the premise. You might as well have linked directly to the 1993 paper to prop up your point. Moreover, they aren't rejecting individuals based on a differential in attractiveness. Thus it isn't 80 percent of women fixating on 20 percent of men. I'm n… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeI did read it. I get the impression you didn't? In Studies 1 and 3, the first partner option had the highest chance of being accepted, after which the acceptance rate decreased up to stabilization after circa a dozen choices. That doesn't support increased selectivity. participants became increasingly rejecting depending on how many partners they already rejected More prone to reject based not on the calibre of the offerings but based on the volume. Our research reveals that—instead of benefitin… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeOh my god. Are you this dim? OkCupid themselves estaboished that using their own metrics for what constitutes attractive, not those of women assessing photos men, women, on average, reach out to men 10 percentile points more attractive than they are. Men, on average, reach out to women 17 percentile point more attractive than they are. This is in OKC's data. Your argument is a faulty opinion predicated on... Nothing. So yes. I'm sharp enough. You are clearly lacking in language comprehension ski… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeI understand that you are saying that physically attractive doesn't equate to globally attractive. The problem is that "attractive" as you define it isn't an objective metric. You aren't actually contributing anything. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in Europeanecdotal 100+ times? nope... Yep. Selection bias is a thing. Sampling methodology is a thing. I made it a point to ask because I am a psychiatrist. Human behavior fascinates me to I ask people questions about their behaviors. Why they do them... what they experience ect ect. Straying a bit into appeal to authority here. I also talk to people and ask questions. My lack of a medical license doesn't make my insights and experiences less valid. I hear the private confessions of men and women alike,… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 05:19 AM |
| 3 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeThe thing is, you can't use this anecdote as an argument for a broad trend within society. And, as I noted, the data they cite is either insufficient or doesn't actually support their argument. I am not saying it isn't possible, but I'm definitely contending that the data is either not out there or the people parroting it find it so intuitively appealing that that is enough and they don't bother finding supporting data. And while women do get more matches, this is because of demographic skew (ma… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeWhere. Is. Your. Data. Edit: also to add, I'm using the term attractive in the same context that OKC is. But again. Data. You lack it. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 02:54 AM |
| 3 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeThis is literally from my comment: In effect, only a statement on how women will evaluate appearance. The thing is, it doesn't impact their messaging patterns. The same article also stresses that female appearance is more important a factor in messaging success than male appearance. Their words as follows: This graph also dramatically illustrates just how much more important a woman’s looks are than a guy’s. The graphs also highlight the disparity where the less attractive the woman, the lower t… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/01/23 01:30 AM |
| 12 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeThe only time I've ever seen the data directly sourced, what was described was that women rate 80 percent of men as being below average in appearance. It says nothing of their messaging habits, their dating tendencies, etc. In effect, only a statement on how women will evaluate appearance. The data actually shows that men are proportionately likely to message the most attractive women whereas women are considerably more responsive to men regardless of their measure of attractiveness. So basicall… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/01/23 02:55 PM |
| 9 | Why Tinder isn't going to get you a girlfriend: Men are an average of 70% of dating app users in the US and 85% in EuropeWhat is so frustrating is that the 80/20 notion isn't even supported by the OKC data they cite. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/01/23 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Out of redpill but still feeling bad about my heightTo be honest, I hope to trim down at some point, but I haven't gone to the gym since I bruised a rib. I'm learning to be okay where I am, but will still try to get to a place I like more. Only reason why I even got there was going to the gym for four hours a day, every day, during university. Now I'm easing into my late 30s with back pain and joint pain. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/01/23 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Out of redpill but still feeling bad about my heightHappy to see you are working on yourself. It's a tough journey. I don't even particularly like myself, but I know that insecurity, not height or other traits, has been my main impediment to continued happiness. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/01/23 12:15 AM |
| 9 | Out of redpill but still feeling bad about my heightI am 5'7" and have had multiple girlfriends who I would qualify as beautiful and highly desirable. I am not rich, good looking, nor fit (though I was in rather good shape for a brief window, where I was 155 lbs of mostly muscle; I'm now 180 lbs and qualify as overweight). I am in a happily committed relationship with a beautiful, intelligent, funny woman who also happens to earn more than I do. Your height will never be as great an impediment to your dating prospects as your insecurity about sai… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/01/23 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?And having just clicked, a garbage video at that. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/01/23 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?A YouTube video is not a source worth trotting out. I have finite time in my life. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/01/23 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?YouTube isn't really a great source. Anyone can hop on, make a video, and say whatever they want and claim it's backed by data or research. As for the study you are citing, I believe it's that OkCupid data dive. In it, 80% of men were rated as significantly less attractive than "medium." Taken on its face, that could suggest what you imply, yet their messaging patterns on the platform suggest they were still messaging these men and were in fact less likely to message those at the highest end of … | /r/ExRedPill | 10/01/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?Okay, so expand on that. What data or evidence are you basing this on? Or is it something you more or less concluded based on personal experience and threw a number at it? | /r/ExRedPill | 09/01/23 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?Please clarify exactly what you mean. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/01/23 09:26 PM |
| 1 | True thoughts about nofap?NoFap as a practice is great. Self-control and self-regulation are important skill sets. That being said, the community is toxic and even cultish at times and often cite dubious sources as justification for often outlandish beliefs. I would say that practicing periodic abstinence is a great exercise, especially if you as an individual are prone to self-indulgence. I would broaden the scope beyond simply self-gratification and look to other areas where I over-indulge that are opportunities. Telev… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/01/23 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Lawyer breaks down why Andrew Tate was arrestedIf you are referring to that Tucker Carlson thing, that was a defence leveraged against a slander claim. While he surely could attempt such a defence in this case, it is a near certainty that the charges against him are based on more than what he said in his videos but that what he said in such videos will support/bolster the case in the context of said charges. Given that slander/libel is exclusively about what has been said/written, there isn't really anything outside of what has been said to … | /r/ExRedPill | 02/01/23 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Alternatives to redpill? I want to learn how to approach women. I also get told when I stop looking it happens but what’s that mean, stop talking to women?As others have said, befriend women. Take opportunities to make friends and, through them, engage socially. As your social circle broadens, you will meet more people, befriend, and eventually meet someone with whom you click and then dating becomes possible. That's the only viable alternative I identified to online dating. It worked fine but I prefer online dating. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/12/22 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Alternatives to redpill? I want to learn how to approach women. I also get told when I stop looking it happens but what’s that mean, stop talking to women?Dating, I would say. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/12/22 02:14 AM |
| 4 | How exactly did you divorce yourself from TRP?What is the alternative? As others have said, there isn't one. It's about making your own perception of reality without I’m not sure exactly what the Blue Pill espouses, that everything is fair and both men and women struggle equally in different ways? What did it take for you to convince yourself of this when you are constantly bombarded with evidence to the contrary all day every day? Out of curiosity, what specific struggles do you associate with being a man that are specifically endemic to t… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/12/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | So I feel myself getting red-pilled.I am having trouble replying for some reason. Perhaps too long? Sorry, I’m still getting used to Reddit, so I’m not sure how to reply to sections of text the way you did. I’ll just try to keep it straight and address your points one by one. No problem. It's the "greater than" symbol placed in front of the text. I copy/paste, then place it before the section of text. New paragraph is separate from said text. Anyway, since I cannot respond in full... I wish you good luck and that you find yourself… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/12/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | So I feel myself getting red-pilled.Over all, I think that’s a fair assessment, and you’ll have to forgive me for writing my original post in a fairly heated mood, and without much time to draft it properly. It absolutely happens. To that point, I had just been told directly that as a white cis male, I’m not allowed to have opinions on most of these social issues. You are definitely referring to a view held by a sliver of the left. It also happens to be more complicated than that. That’s not the first time it’s been said to me, an… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/12/22 01:05 PM |
| 8 | So I feel myself getting red-pilled.The one thing I can offer is that if you are inclined to give a fair shake to opposing views when straw men are presented... And I really do feel like my natural masculinity is demonized in a way that isn’t fair, and I feel the need to defend it and even celebrate in it, but it’s a feeling that simply is not shared on the left. From the outright hatred of white people, particularly white men, to transgender ideology being all but forced on everyone, I would hope you have the ability to identify … | /r/ExRedPill | 17/12/22 01:49 PM |
| 3 | I'm jealous of my good looking roommate.What gives you the impression that RP would be more helpful than simply working on yourself? I think that RP being appealing to someone is generally instructive of the fact that they have a lot of work to do on themselves and arguably should be doing that before seeking out relationships. Your roommate sounds like he got very lucky by birth and circumstance. Are you two close? Do you have the option to hang out with him now and then (even if not on the scale of a true social life)? How big is yo… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/22 12:44 PM |
| 6 | Good looks are to dating, what being born wealthy is to your financial statusIt quite literally isn't. There are general themes that appear to be shared but broader traits are inconsistent. The general trend is that someone whose face is statistically average is more attractive to more people. That is, when several faces are taken and then averaged together in a composite image, that face will be ranked higher than any of the individual faces. And if you then take a subsequent average of a bunch of those composites, you'll find that this one is ranked above any of those.… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/22 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Good looks are to dating, what being born wealthy is to your financial statusI'm not arguing that one shouldn't be open or accepting of what opportunities avail oneself. All I'm saying is that a bank account is pretty clear cut (either you have x dollars or you don't) whereas there are wildly subjective components to attraction that ultimately aren't as readily measured. I'm happy in my current relationship and have zero complaints. I'm just saying that the analogy has shortcomings in that it isn't a direct equivalence. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/22 12:17 PM |
| 4 | Good looks are to dating, what being born wealthy is to your financial statusWhile there's subjectivity in terms of what's considered wealthy, the method of measurement is number of dollars. Attraction isn't so straight forward. I said 7 at best. I'm also 170 cm tall and overweight and had that pull despite it. So if face is a 7 and those factors drag me down... I'd put myself at an overall looks rating of 5. Maybe 5.5. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/22 04:03 AM |
| 8 | Good looks are to dating, what being born wealthy is to your financial statusWhy's it misleading? If you're good looking, dating is extremely easy. If you're average, it's hard. Looks are considerably more subjective than wealth. I dated a 9 when I'm a 7 at best. She thought me higher. It works as an analogy for purposes of driving people to accept things as they are, but there are differences. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/12/22 03:37 AM |
| 2 | Height preferencesI'm a man of 170 cm in height. I have dated women between 147 cm and 173 cm. I'd have dated taller women if any were ever interested. I have dated very beautiful women, including some whom friends commented were out of my league. I am not an especially good looking man. I'm now 36 with a child living with my girlfriend. You'll be fine. Just work on being happy with yourself first and foremost. Meet people while you can and make friends. Best ways I ever met people was like that. Make friends. Me… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/12/22 11:13 PM |
| 2 | I’d argue women view ”RP” attitudes as unattractive.Benevolent sexism is multivariate. In essence, it is social attitudes that ultimately undermine an egalitarian framework. Attitudes such as "women need to be taken care of financially." Or "men must pay for a first date" or "women shouldn't have to work and should be keeping the home." They are attitudes that are often perceived as positive but ultimately derive of a paternalistic framework. Something interesting: Some research indicates that women perceived men high in benevolent sexism to poss… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/12/22 11:05 PM |
| 13 | r/IncelExit won't unblock me and are super toxicWanting to date someone who is 21 or younger is creepy and borderline predatory. Their brains are still developing whereas yours is pretty much fully matured (the average is age 25). What is it about your personal preference that makes these women specifically your ideal? Their more youthful appearance? If so, why should your partner need to look younger than you? What are you actually bringing to the table? You bring up that women lie about their ages and body count, but how can you confirm you… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/12/22 01:13 PM |
| 4 | Ex redpill but still afraid of women because of my heightI'm 170 cm. Not sure where you reside, but I have done okay for myself. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/12/22 10:02 PM |
| 6 | Is Life Easier If You're Attractive?In the aggregate, I would say it probably is but that it's predicated on a host of caveats and exceptions. I am confident that life as a conventionally beautiful woman is harder than as a conventionally attractive man. Beautiful women in my life have been treated as a romantic or sexual prospect first and foremost while attractive men in my life can be regarded as platonic options or romantic/sexual. When rejected as a romantic prospect, most men these women thought were friends will basically r… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/12/22 02:32 PM |
| 3 | I don't know how people can recommend dating apps for menI think regional factors come into play as well. I actively opted to live in a more populous city to get a higher probability of meeting someone. Small town/city super cut into opportunity and definitely impacted dating prospects, so I could definitely see a problem for some, but I think that's a population density issue. In my case, it helped me meet more people and certainly ones I likely never would have otherwise. I think I've had at least twice as many relationships facilitated by the inter… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/12/22 06:34 PM |
| 5 | I don't know how people can recommend dating apps for menNo. I'm a man in my 30s who, while single, didn't own a house and had no savings. I didn't drive an expensive car. Am maybe average appearance, overweight, and 5'7". | /r/ExRedPill | 01/12/22 04:57 PM |
| 7 | I don't know how people can recommend dating apps for menI don't get how people are so universally against dating apps. I understand that they don't work for everyone but they absolutely worked for me. And I'm nothing special. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/12/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Blackpilled incel here. Let's say that the Blackpill is all false then how can i gets girls when i am physically unattractive?I am physically unattractive. I am overweight. I am 5'7". I am generally polite/kind (and by this, I mean my interactions with people are unforced, and my kindness is not performative with ulterior motives; I am kind for its own sake). That in and of itself has endeared me to some people. I'm also interested in a variety of subjects and show interest in what people have to say, regardless of whether or not I'm attracted to them. Not everyone I've been interested in has reciprocated and not every… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/11/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Red pill is ruining my life (34F)My current partner and I met when we were both in our 30s. She had just gotten out of a relationship of 10 years. I believe we met when she was 30 and I was 32. We now have a baby together at 34 and 36 respectively. She was never ruined for me. She has so much more to offer than a woman in her 20s and I couldn't imagine having gone with someone younger. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/11/22 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Are dating apps largely a waste of time?I met two really amazing people during my time on dating apps. I would say that it's both a numbers game and a question of population demographics. Right now, you're in the ideal age range, in my opinion, if you have any proximity to a university or college with a higher density of undergraduate/first time students. I dated dozens of people. Lots of first dates. A couple of second dates. Some people who became more friends than anything else. I now have a kid with someone (planned) who I met thr… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/11/22 05:01 PM |
| 4 | Redpill, Blackpill made me gay.Even if you think you are able to mask your feelings, it will influence your behaviour. I have been working on some of my biases and it is fascinating to look on old behaviour and realise just how informed it was by said biases. Even where I thought my conduct was neutral. Anyway, good luck if you insist on staying the course. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/10/22 02:50 PM |
| 1 | you will never achieve anything in lifeImagine being this pressed. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/10/22 08:02 PM |
| 3 | If studies show that women are happier when they are single and childless; should we as men stop relationships with women and leave them alone?Most? Probably. Depends on how far the outliers drag down the statistical mean. But even then, wouldn't it make more sense for those who are less happy than the mean for single women to be the only ones to stop their relationships? If we're in a hypothetical situation where the only options are that everyone stay together or everyone split up, then absolutely it's best they split up, but we clearly know that this isn't the reality of things. So it ultimately is at most a thought exercise and a c… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/10/22 02:49 AM |
| 4 | If studies show that women are happier when they are single and childless; should we as men stop relationships with women and leave them alone?But... Shouldn't that be an argument in favour of considering each relationship based on its own circumstances rather than generalizing any relationship between a man and a woman as inherently detrimental to a woman? If anything, the statistic should lead to self-reflection and a desire to ensure that one sits as an outlier rather than reinforcing the statistic. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/10/22 01:41 AM |
| 4 | If studies show that women are happier when they are single and childless; should we as men stop relationships with women and leave them alone?It's accurate in the aggregate, but individual cases aren't a statistical average. They are subject to their exact conditions which vary from the statistical average. I'm sure that if you were to look at relationships representative of egalitarian structures/relationships, the skew would be much more in favour of being with someone than not. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/10/22 01:35 AM |
| 5 | If studies show that women are happier when they are single and childless; should we as men stop relationships with women and leave them alone?There are so very many potential confounding variables that makes broad conclusions that ALL relationships between women and men are worse than being single a wildly speculative conclusion. One would need to explore so many elements of demographics and research conditions to be able to remotely sanction the conclusion that women are always better off without men. In all probability, with a few controls, you'd quickly sort out that it isn't the case in balanced, egalitarian relationships with sha… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/10/22 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Why would women nowadays want to be monogamous?It really seems that 99% of all the ladies could easily hook up with pretty much anyone they want. Which is absolutelly fine. I have many friends who would challenge this notion. I genuinely believe that any man who thinks this is not basing their views on the experiences of women. However, I don't really get why women even want to be monogamous. I understand the whole feelings/respect for your partner thing, but it really seems that there are a lot of couples nowadays who "have romance at home"… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/10/22 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Why do ex red pill people say body count doesn't matter?Something to consider: are there any possible confounding variables that might better explain the relationship? Were there any studies that actually used statistical methods to prove a causal relationship? As it is, there are many demographic differences between the people who have a high number of sexual partners and those with a low number. It is most probable that other dimensions are much, much better predictors than body count itself. I've been with women who run a fairly broad swath of sex… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/10/22 03:03 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of invisible men don't feel like they are sexually attractive, hence why groups like the redpill exist, as a last-ditch effort to try something else.I started out my journey a skinny, awkward person. I then became a chubby awkward person. Then I became a fit, awkward person. Then I became a fat, awkward person. I'm 5'7" and generally unremarkable but have had a fair number of women express interest in me. Working on personality was a big factor as was working out when I used to. Didn't require a massive commitment. Just a couple of hours every 3-7 days (depending on what I felt like doing). But since I chonked up, I managed to get into a lon… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/09/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Do things like this confirm the redpill narrative?I think it's a fairly meh quotation, but I don't think her list is exhaustive. She asserted "all of them" and then listed a variety of attributes. I wouldn't qualify most of them as bad boy, though they aren't mutually exclusive. I would say I have fallen into most of those camps at some point in my life, but I would never self-qualify as a "bad boy." I was just growing through the phases of life and trying to sort myself out the same as most women do. I didn't follow much of a script nor did I … | /r/ExRedPill | 29/09/22 09:18 PM |
| 0 | Question to r/exredpill; Do the women in these videos exist in the real world? How do you avoid them? I mean r/exredpill tells me that these women don't exist.This is a pretty long video to commit to, but I'm curious what exactly you mean when you say "women in these videos" and what aspects you would be looking to avoid based on their responses. I tried jumping through it a bit, but it would help to know where you're coming from more specifically Edit: answer would have been more helpful than a downvote. Lol | /r/ExRedPill | 29/09/22 08:50 PM |
| 7 | Red Pill Subscriber Coming In Peace...you know the red pill paints women like you in a negative light ...but it isn't a misogynistic movement? | /r/ExRedPill | 18/09/22 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill Subscriber Coming In PeaceKeeping a woman at an arms length is so important, when you come in strongly often times that will push her away. I feel like if you deal with women in real life you should be able to see that TRP is legit. Maybe at the very, very beginning but what would the point even be of a relationship like that? What's your benchmark for a successful relationship? | /r/ExRedPill | 18/09/22 11:12 AM |
| 1 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all.Women are taught to be afraid of us whenever they encounter us on the street. Carry your keys in your hand and all that. "Men as a class", "men are trash", etc. That's hardly a valid rebuttle. Fear of men is a valid construct even when there's an understanding that not all men present an inherent risk. It's a matter of the unknown risks/hazards. I'm not going to go to a high crime area despite knowing that the majority of individuals in the area are law abiding or at least nonviolent. Never tell… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/09/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all.Men are judged by the worst examples. Feminism can be equally judged. Except one chooses an ideology, not a gender that they're born with. Are we really? I suspect another decontextualised example or set of examples, but I'm open to your meaning. DV rates by women against women outstrip rates by men against women - particularly sexual assault. An interesting statistic, but not exactly relevant. In flat numbers, police will be called more frequently to incidents of male against female DV. Thus a … | /r/ExRedPill | 14/09/22 12:07 PM |
| 3 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all.There are feminists like Clementine Ford who say more men should die of Coronavirus... and she has a son. You can bet she's mentally abusing him. The only people who ever protested her were men and men's groups. Ok, but how does that actually tie into feminist theory/thought? If feminism is predicated on equality of the sexes and eliminating barriers for women to foster such equality, what does this position on men dying have to do with feminism itself? By the sound of it, this is an attitude he… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/09/22 01:27 AM |
| 2 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all."Honestly, I think the women that hate men are generally harmless." Sounds like a bit of context/elaboration from such a sentiment. While I agree that actively hating any group is ultimately anything but harmless, I'm failing to see a direct connection to feminism. "Women usually cheat because they are not respected by their partners, so they look for respect elsewhere." And this one is kind of consistent with what the research shows. Specifically, that female infidelity is most often associated… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/09/22 12:33 AM |
| 8 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all.That's not really helpful. First, the original post is raising a complaint without specifying the nature/substance of said complaint. Second, what you just said is very buzzwordy but fails to actually specify the issue. What specifically do you identify as part of the "Reddit feminist hegemony" in this sub that makes it ineffectual? | /r/ExRedPill | 13/09/22 10:49 PM |
| 8 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all.Care to elaborate? | /r/ExRedPill | 13/09/22 09:11 PM |
| 11 | this sub has a net negative result, you guys have not helped at all.Hard to give advice with zero context. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/09/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | This sub-reddit purposely suppresses the abuse women do to men. This sub also suppresses men who are dealing with toxic women and need help.I haven't seen anyone on this sub allege that women don't abuse men nor put down men who have experienced abuse at the hands of women and are seeking help. If anything, the sub challenges the view that women are innately toxic or that all women are alike or readily generalisable. You'd think OP could have stuck around and defended their point with examples so members could reflect, consider the criticism, and respond with either growth if there were merit to the examples or respond with a counte… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/09/22 04:13 PM |
| 5 | "dick is low value and abundant"As far as I interpret the phrase, it's that you need to bring more than sex to the table. If that's all you have in your toolkit, you are perfectly replaceable. My girlfriend could replace me, just as I could replace her, but we would be losing everything we offer to each other. We have mutual support systems. We work as a team. We are there for each other and we try to build each other up. When one of us stumbles, the other is there to help stand up again. That's not easily replaced and not som… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/09/22 02:18 PM |
| 8 | My girlfriend told me: WOMEN LIKE GOOD MEN MORE THAN ANYTHING.This is kind of the sort of vague, ill-defined concept that pervades lots of self-help or other objects of questionable utility. Unclear terms included: "good", "strong-minded", "weak-minded", "strong will" Broad generalisations: "all women like X" Bizarre concept: "If you don't have strong will then you're not really a man and for that reason women don't fall in love with you" Moving past that, even if the terms were adequately defined, the concept that men can be categorised into these four gr… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/09/22 02:04 PM |
| 20 | Addressing the whole "80% of men are below average" clam: It's likely complete horeshit.That's the one that was so weird to me. When people were citing that data, they were only ever misrepresenting its contents. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/22 11:54 AM |
| 18 | We kissed and touch each other, but doesn't wanna have sex with me, why?What I mean is, do you think it's possible that she actually didn't have sex but was talking up her past "experience" because she didn't want to scare you. That being said, if the opposite is true... I'd probably bail. It all comes down to talking it through. If she's still interested in spending tome with you and no less enthusiastic, you could discuss the matter with her directly. Sounds annoyingly complicated though. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/08/22 11:22 AM |
| 18 | We kissed and touch each other, but doesn't wanna have sex with me, why?Do you think it's possible that she lied about having sex before? | /r/ExRedPill | 31/08/22 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Need help talking to ”redpilled” highschoolersYour entire comment is largely predicated on a misrepresentation of feminist thought. The notion that women do not need a society (that's essentially what your assertion boils down to in invoking the work that men do in the aggregate) isn't actually in evidence. Nor the notion that men in the aggregate are a disposable commodity. That's a straw man of the position mainstream feminism upholds. The notion of not needing A man invoked in feminism is about a woman's validation deriving from herself … | /r/ExRedPill | 26/08/22 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Need help talking to ”redpilled” highschoolersAs for point 3, women need men just as much men need women, so that's not wrong either... I would likely ask them to elaborate on their meaning in that point. I don't think anyone strictly "needs" any other individual, but then there's also same sex couples who, in their individual needs, have no specific need of the opposite sex. Add to that the fact that the unspoken, implicit argument is that it's a unidirectional need (I.e. that men don't need women whereas women need men) elaboration as to … | /r/ExRedPill | 25/08/22 11:47 AM |
| 3 | I wish I was a woman.I do feel like dating is easier if you're a woman. I think that a lot of heterosexual men have a habit of thinking only about the women in whom they are interested rather than the broader suite. Moreover, I think that you have narrowed your perception of ease with respect to dating as relating to being able to get a date rather than having a good date. Never mind that the prospect of interacting with a complete stranger who you must trust won't try to take physical advantage or be sexually aggre… | /r/ExRedPill | 24/08/22 02:48 PM |
| 1 | My ex girlfriend (untreated BPD woman) made me redpilled.Most of what you describe her saying, when decontextualised to your specific experience, are boilerplate abuser tactics. Not sure how that made you redpill. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/08/22 05:26 PM |
| 11 | If were supposed to disregard stereotypes about women by and large, why do so many gender roles/stereotypes apply when it comes to dating?Aside from the obvious potential of gender essentialism leading to behavioural trends within genders, there is also the role of socialization. That all aside, recognising that a pattern does not denote an absolute, universal rule is kind of important. While gendered norms are common they are by no means universal. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/08/22 06:52 AM |
| 9 | Is it really over for women over 25?Female youth being over at 25? Sure. Is that a bad thing? I would contend no. The content of a woman is far more valuable than a perception of youth and whatever stereotypes might be attached to it. I'm in my 30s and would never date a woman under 25. Their brains aren't done developing and they generally lack a degree of life experience that women over that threshold tend to have. These are all just generalisations, but... If your appearance is all you have going for you, you've wildly failed y… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/08/22 08:51 PM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?First, you didn't send anything in DMs. Second, I'll attack your arguments when you format your comments for readability. Third, formatting isn't a matter of grammar. It relates to ease of readability. Fourth, I didn't read your comments because you wrote them in some sort of bizarre stream of consciousness. I already told you what you could do to get me to address your argument and you've to this point refused. I also never said that I was a feminist. I don't adopt that label. I'm perfectly cap… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/22 12:26 AM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?Neat. You continue to not be able to write in coherent manner. I mean... It would be so easy, if you were actually interested in a good faith exchange, to break it up. Clearly you aren't. So I have zero interest in giving a good faith approach. You are clearly too emotional and invested in trolling to actually give it a go. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/22 10:20 PM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?You cited your friends and things you allegedly witnessed as your primary evidence. You then went on to cite "mainstream media" but this was not only predicated on opinion but also without real evidence, facts, or anything. You make claims and then offer zero support for them but declare them fact-based. If the media were so overwhelmingly anti-man, surely you could have linked to even one mainstream article engaging in the behaviour you describe. You also conflated a lack of desire to read poor… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/22 09:05 PM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?Dude, break it up into paragraphs. To the one part I managed to get through where you brought up that my points were anecdotal but yours weren't... Literally everything you described was anecdote. You even cited media even though what you described cannot be observed anywhere remotely mainstream. Ideas being challenged is fine. Just do it coherently and without so much emotion. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/22 07:52 PM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?Holy shit. Paragraphs are your friend. I'm not reading 30+ undifferentiated lines of text. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/22 07:34 PM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?The main ideologies I've seen might masquerade as what you've described but have been deeply embedded misogyny, actively devalue women (rather than prioritising one's own interests) and actively sets up relationships as adversarial rather than a collaborative framework wherein both parties actively labour for the improvement of their mutual circumstance (rather than treating it as a zero-sum game). I've not seen any corruption in feminism. But that aside, assuming such things exist within the fe… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/22 03:48 PM |
| 2 | My Boyfriend watches Andrew Tate. What should I do?The material difference being that the two aren't comparable. Feminism isn't an innately toxic, mind warping quasi-philosophy that propagates abusive behaviour. I would say get out in response to any number of other memberships (fascism, white supremacy, nationalist organisations, etc.). While absolutism may be wrong in a technical sense, from a pragmatic approach, the journey out would be long, difficult, and contingent on him wanting to get out. Given that last prong, it isn't worth it to try … | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/22 12:03 PM |
| 2 | For men only: how many of you are abuse survivors? (Childhood, teen years, etc.)To be honest, I'm still carrying damage, but my relationship with my sister is at least better than it had been (physical distance helps). I don't really think there was actual malice on anyone's part but just a lot of dysfunction. I'm now a father myself so it's interesting to track. Deadset against having a second child though. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/07/22 08:45 PM |
| 4 | I finally understand what people mean when they talk about romantic "love"Yeah this seems to be more characteristic of infatuation than what anyone in a stable, long-term relationship would characterise as love. Many people, when they speak of falling in love, are discussing the early stages of infatuation. Pretty sure Helen Fisher has actually delved into this as well. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/07/22 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Can people not just admit they have no luck when it comes to datingSo you reached out and nothing came of it? I'd call it a learning experience and move along. It's perfectly possible it has nothing to do with you. As I said before, I tend to do better through apps as it gives me a chance to get to know the person beforehand so we already have a base to work from when we meet in person. Things tend to go a bit more smoothly and the conversation is usually less stilted. Plus, no one wasted their time on meeting someone they weren't at least partially invested in… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Can people not just admit they have no luck when it comes to datingDid your mutual friend provide any feedback? Moreover, would you actually be interested in getting to know her better? Did the conversation have a natural flow or was it more stilted/awkward? | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Can people not just admit they have no luck when it comes to datingI mean, sounds like a polite conversation where you showed interest in the subject matter, her, and she may simply not have been interested. Do you know if she was there for the same reason you were (i.e. she was told she was going to meet a guy they thought might be a good match for her)? Disparate information can definitely make for disparate experiences. I adhere to the view that it's best to act as comes naturally in the situation. There have been dates where I was able to flirt well and oth… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Can people not just admit they have no luck when it comes to datingWhat does flirting look like in your mind and what did you apply in this specific scenario? | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Can two average looking people be genuinely in love?Again, anecdotally, I see it rather frequently. My friends tend to date those who resemble themselves. There are absolutely confounding factors which may include money, political views, education, etc. But by and large, it follows that trend with exceptions being outliers rather than the norm. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 01:50 PM |
| 3 | Can two average looking people be genuinely in love?I can't find a citation, but I recall a study that suggested that people are happiest in looksmatched relationships (aggregate data, of course and unsure of replicability and methodology, all the usual disclaimers, etc.). I've dated people who I believed to be far better looking to me and I am currently with someone I believe to be looksmatched to me. I'm happy. She's happy. We're mutually attracted to each other. Neither of us is supermodelly. Anecdote aside, it seems to be quite normal. The on… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 01:26 PM |
| 2 | For men only: how many of you are abuse survivors? (Childhood, teen years, etc.)My sister was emotionally abusive toward me due to her own psychological issues/insecurities. She and my father had a fairly intense relationship with yelling matches and door slamming and the like. She would take out a lot of her frustration and insecurity on me and put me down whenever she wasn't in a great place. She has mental health issues and regrets a fair bit today even though she remembers it as sibling rivalry rather than out and out abuse (I raised that sibling rivalry requires both s… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Can people not just admit they have no luck when it comes to datingLong story short, I'm a shy and anxious person. Me too. All the times I have tried to flirt with a girl have ultimately failed. Now it's not that I don't have confidence, I know what my strengths and weaknesses are. Its just unfortunate that my weakness is flirting(or "getting" women for that matter). I can't flirt to save my life. Only time I get flirtatious is if I'm confident in the other person's interest in me. Problem on that end is that I'm only confident when I don't reciprocate the inte… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/22 01:11 PM |
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