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I would feel like I’d failed as a parent in both cases. Maybe you can argue that one is more of a failure than the other, but either way, the parenting did not lead to a well-adjusted member of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:47 AM

The problems can get worse and worse, or they might not. Things might turn out fine. But regardless of the potential one way or another, I still think I’d rather have my child alive and be able to help them through their problems. Of course the incel son might never kill himself. And the thot daughter might never get pregnant. So we’re kind of assuming the worst anyway in this convo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:35 AM

I feel like your kid committing suicide is significantly more tragic than your kid getting knocked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:26 AM

💖
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:52 PM

I wish everyone was as genuinely selfless and compassionate as you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:29 PM

are we supposed to know who that is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:57 PM

Yeah, I’ve only just started having a lot of my “formative” experiences now that I’m in my 30s lol. Maybe I’m missing some intrinsic piece of the puzzle, but I don’t really see the appeal of experiencing everything as an awkward, depressed teenager. At least I can properly appreciate stuff now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:19 PM

No clue but I wouldn’t be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:10 PM

In that case, I wonder what prevents all introverts and social outcasts from becoming incels? Or maybe it’s better to ask it the other way around: what flips that switch and makes some introverts/social outcasts become incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:48 PM

Well, to be fair, they still experienced that phase - it just looked different from the standard definition. It’s not only incels who have that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:33 PM

I was also the shy studious type in college. Just hung out with one close friend, otherwise spent most of my weekends in my dorm or with my family. I don’t think of it as a huge loss, but then again, I don’t have much to compare it to. So maybe I missed out, maybe I didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:29 PM

I missed out on all that in high school lol. Being shy/socially awkward really doesn’t do you a lot of favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:23 PM

Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:03 PM

What if a woman is <25 during part of the selection process but then gains weight? Do they put her on hold, or kick her out entirely and make her start over? Is there some sort of monetary deposit system to hold people to this? How would this company negotiate not providing services to customers if those customers have already paid? If it’s a lesbian couple, does this only apply to the woman who’s carrying the child, or is it both women? What if the woman’s BMI is under 25 but she has an undesir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:49 PM

Businesses don’t care if money comes from fat people or thin people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:39 PM

I think my mom always knew the families I was having sleepovers with. They were people I’d been friends with for years, or she at least knew them by extension through whatever Mom Social Circle she was in. So in that context, they’re fun. Kids get to stay up late, eat junk, probably do dumb shit they can’t do at home. It’s a little bit of novelty for them. Like a mini-vacation or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:18 PM
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I know plenty of people who eschew both shaving and makeup because neither is natural. But to be fair I live in a town full of hippies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:52 AM
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People can’t understand it until they’ve felt it. The feeling doesn’t discriminate based on gender, or race, or class, or any other shit like that. It doesn’t have anything to do with character, or with fortitude, or with some kind of magical inner strength. I don’t know if you’re going through something now, or if it’s in the past or what. But either way, I hope you’re doing alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:16 PM
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At least that’s neat to look at
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:21 PM
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In general, I deeply dislike framing a suicide attempt as a matter of resolve, or as a personal failing in any way. The way people talk about human life and suffering really fucking upsets me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:17 PM
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I don’t think I’d ask about it. I’d just get real sad/quiet and make an excuse to leave early. Then I’d think about that comment every so often for the rest of my life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 11:55 PM
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Until marriage. I do not expect him to plan/pay for/initiate everything, that would be bizarre. I expect us both to invest attention, affection, and some degree of emotional vulnerability in one another, to get to know each other in ways that are not sexual, to discuss our shared beliefs and values, and to determine whether or not we can build a life with one another. I typically show my affection through small acts of care/service and appreciate receiving the same, but if he invests in other wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 10:15 PM
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It’s possible to mourn both at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 10:04 PM
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At this point, I do not expect deep thinking out of anyone. Any time I have been optimistic about that, I have ended up disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:10 PM
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Exceptions to their beliefs. I could have phrased that more clearly. People tend to make up their minds about something first, and seek supporting evidence second. And anything that doesn’t support their thesis is rejected, or isn’t even acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:54 PM
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Very few people factor exceptions into their beliefs (whether the exceptions are a majority or a minority.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:47 PM
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Sorry if that’s been your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:34 PM
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Got it. I know what you mean about not letting go of something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:34 PM
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Therapy is a real cool thing, and I don’t know why people don’t get more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:21 PM
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Are you approaching this from a religious perspective? Not judging one way or another, but it colors these conversations, so I’m always interested to know where people are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:19 PM
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Is she talking about men specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:24 AM
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Do chicken pot pie first
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:14 PM
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I would argue that therapy is more effective than sucking it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:01 PM
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“Having a go” is the way it’s normally written
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:53 PM
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I think the fear of dating/marrying a psycho can come from other sources. If someone is raised by an abusive father or has otherwise dangerous/unstable adult males in their early life, I don’t think it’s terribly uncommon to grow up with a general fear of men (hopefully one that can be overcome through therapy or other means, but still.) Granted, I don’t know how common that is compared to women that date/marry psychos and then regret it. But at the same time I wouldn’t say that it’s exceedingly…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:42 PM
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How do you know the person you are replying to hasn’t experienced trauma? If they have, would they still be a “scared little bunny” in your eyes? Or would their caution be warranted?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:30 PM
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If it means my extended family will talk to me less, then sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:19 PM
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Thanks for the link. Lots I agree with and lots to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 03:02 PM
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If a person holds those values but isn’t a homemaker (which is very common since it is the most practical option), there is no reason they won’t have money or retirement savings of their own. If someone is a homemaker and doesn’t have their own retirement savings, I still think they made that choice independently and there is no reason not to respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:51 PM
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No. Women who hold the values listed above are not simply “dependent on a man’s whims.” They are autonomous human beings who make their own decisions and set their own boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:32 PM
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Is blonde hair actually high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:17 PM
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To be fair, I don’t think modern men are terribly chivalrous towards virgins either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:13 PM
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So what’s a girl supposed to do if she actually does wait? How does she successfully prove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:10 PM
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I wonder how they handle the fact that the baby was killed. Will they say he’s responsible for that? Or her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:09 AM
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Biggest issue with dating another disabled person is that in the US, if he’s receiving disability, marriage could compromise his income. And I definitely want to get married, but wouldn’t want to ask someone to drop their check for me. I do some freelance writing but it’s not enough to cover two people. (And no, I don’t drive.) If money wasn’t an issue and we could somehow cover other household logistics, then yeah, I’d be open to dating another disabled person. Otherwise I can’t lie, it would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:27 PM
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It seems like there are several women admitting they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:56 PM
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Lol you aren’t wrong at all. One of my former best friends had BPD. I loved her to death and I’ve never had a friendship that intense. Wild, exhausting, and ultimately unsustainable for me, but it was a fun ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:13 PM
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Exactly this. The intense ups and downs, the victim complex, it’s all part of the package, but not every man is going to be attracted to that package.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:32 PM
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For context: face is average, not fat, but I’m in a wheelchair and my muscles don’t always work right. Literally never lol. Never even catcalled. Part of this may be that I stay at home more than the average woman, sure. I’ve never really bothered going to bars or parties. But I think the disability really works against me. When I do go out, I am very, very invisible. Maybe. I’ve only tried it once. I talked with a handful of guys, went on a date with two of them, ended up in a relationship with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:04 PM
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I used to be that way. It caused some significant cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 09:58 PM
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Well. Maybe they are on the spectrum. Like many other disorders, I think we have gotten better at spotting and diagnosing it, and maybe more open discussion of symptoms has led to people being a bit more willing to “show” those symptoms (like less pressure to “mask” in public or something like that.) But I’m not really qualified to make that kind of claim, that’s just my first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 09:48 PM
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I don’t know. I’m not a guy but I get all up in my head in these situations - what if I leave something out, what if I phrase something wrong or sound stupid, what if I’m overreacting and shouldn’t be at the doctor at all, etc. Relatively dumb stuff can make me pretty nervous sometimes, so I stumble or come off as very awkward. That may not be their issue at all, but if it is, I sympathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 09:41 PM
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I’m sorry that’s been your experience. I wouldn’t necessarily think a guy was a creep for talking to me, but as someone who’s pretty awkward/shy, I’d wonder why he’d singled me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 09:37 PM
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I’m the same way. I can participate in small talk, but I really don’t enjoy it…especially not at a doctor’s office where I tend to be more nervous than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 09:18 PM
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Are women stealing their sperm or something
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:21 PM
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I think letting it starve is a little bit illegal in most places
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:19 PM
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If my true self has been in between my legs this whole time I’m gonna be pissed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:58 PM
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I’m glad someone finally asked this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:55 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:31 PM
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Just gotta find somebody in real life with that go-getter attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:21 PM
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Not always. I’m very average in terms of looks, but I’m disabled and in a wheelchair. That’s like instant repellent for men. They either don’t see me at all, or they act like I’m a little kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:12 PM
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Can you explain what she lied about? I am reading through the thread and I think I am missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:25 AM
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I’d at least say to try therapy before anything drastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:15 PM
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Do you make them retroactively pay for the 8 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:34 PM
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Is the child the equivalent of the kidnapper in this analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:26 PM
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Do you assume you wouldn’t have developed an attachment to the kid at any point? Or would you just cut off the attachment and repress/work through the emotional loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:01 PM
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How do you avoid telling someone about a vasectomy? If you’re entering into a relationship, won’t you have to discuss whether or not you both want children?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:36 PM
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Why would you do that to the kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:08 PM
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Birth control pills are also prescribed for health issues/hormonal imbalances. They don’t inherently make someone deviant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:33 PM
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I can’t imagine that’s true of every disorder - something like schizophrenia, APD, etc. seems like it would be exhibited more frequently in men. But then that’s just an assumption on my part. Are there studies addressing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:30 PM
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Are you anti-birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:21 PM
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Leaving a child that you raised for 8 years makes you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:05 PM
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Is the implication here that feminism causes the biological changes in the brain that lead to mental health issues? Or that the mental health issues aren’t biologically rooted, and some aspect of feminism is causing the symptoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:43 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:26 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Probably a combination of more refined therapy/more wholistic understanding of disorders, and society being a bit more accepting of mental health issues and encouraging individuals to seek out diagnoses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:20 PM
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According to Johns Hopkins, 1 in 4 individuals in the US suffer from mental health issues. It’s very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:57 PM
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I would be fine with that, yeah. But I like kids, plus I grew up with a pretty complex/messy family dynamic myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:44 PM
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Ah, yeah, I don’t know. I like to think I would be willing to put in work and repair the relationship, as long as he was also willing. But what I think can be very different from the reality of a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:27 PM
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Go to therapy with him. Try to work it out, try to address whatever made him feel like he needed to cover it up. If you mean he cheated, I don’t know. Still therapy, but I imagine it would be harder to work through.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:21 PM
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An eight year old kid likely isn’t going to be able to process or understand that the way an adult would. I’d do what’s best for the child in the moment, and discuss the nuances with them later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:16 PM
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I have enough room in my heart to judge them both.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:04 PM
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I taught undergrad classes for a while, and after that experience, I’m convinced that anyone under 23 is basically a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:47 PM
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I thought that was true of everyone until their mid-late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:06 PM
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I personally don’t agree with the first half of what she said, but I agree that the kid is innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:28 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:59 PM
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I believe they could, but the court would want evidence of involvement in the child’s life to prove they’re a fit parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:40 PM
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People who would cut contact with a kid they raised for 8 years are genuinely bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:34 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:00 AM
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Slammin doors in 90 year old ladies’ faces because they won’t put out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:05 AM
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You should be proud of any progress you’ve made. Changing a mindset you’ve been entrenched in is never easy. It’s messy work, and you rarely feel the rewards in the short term. But the long term betterment is worth it. And yes, hate is mentally exhausting. Spending a significant amount of time in a state of activation, positive or negative, will make anyone tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:00 AM
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Personally, I want to search for the needle, but I don’t expect most individuals to feel that way. As someone with a relatively low libido, and with concerns that differ from most women (and most people in general), trying to appeal to a broader range simply doesn’t benefit me - it would just make my life harder and make me unhappy. In lieu of finding that needle, being alone works better for me. Again, I doubt most people feel that way. And while I can’t say I understand where they’re coming fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:41 PM
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It isn’t something I have personally experienced, and people don’t tend to appreciate anecdotes here. I could say “I am a woman and I do not believe I have done this, nor have I seen it occur with others,” but don’t feel that input is particularly valuable in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:29 PM
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There are plenty of autonomous functions in your body that you are not aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:24 PM
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Well, the key part there, to me, is that men get boners. That’s a pretty clear indication. If women are slightly aroused, they get…what, slight swelling? Increased blood pressure/heart rate? Dilated pupils? Personally, the swelling/wetness isn’t always something I feel right away. I can easily imagine being slightly turned on by something and having no real physical indication because the shifts are all subtle in the early stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:23 PM
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Ahh, okay. Unfortunately I can’t speak to any of that lol. But I’m genuinely sorry you’re having to deal with that kind of emo dumping - it sounds like it could be very taxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:19 PM
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Interesting. I personally see debate subs/similar spaces as opportunities to learn and expand my understanding of issues (and my understanding of statistics as they apply to the world around me. Reconciling data is, in some ways, a form of growth, imo.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:05 PM
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Are there statistics showing that they’re the most common? I’d be interested to see what else is included in that, and how the concerns are ranked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:03 PM
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I don’t understand that mindset. How do you grow without reconciling conflicting or challenging opinions? How do you learn without hearing about experiences lived by other individuals? How do you keep the conversation from turning into a circlejerk of the same voices amplifying one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:58 PM
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But why are those the first general female concerns you arrive at?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:56 PM
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Why do you think that’s what they’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:47 PM
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The problem, for me, comes from the way people interact with outliers. Dismissing their experiences as irrelevant to conversations, telling them they’re lying, whatever. Predict all you want, and maybe you’ll be right most of the time, but when you’re wrong about someone in the minority, admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:45 PM
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Depression tends to be accompanied by anxiety. And anxiety is a disorder that pushes you to talk, seek reassurance and validation, play over scenarios again and again. So there are some days where you lay in bed and shut up, because that’s all you can manage, but there are some days where you can’t shut your brain off, and some people drag others into that (because honestly, sitting quietly with it and working through it yourself makes you feel like you’re going to die. At least in my experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:43 PM
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A bad sex life might be a minor pet peeve for some individuals, with relatively low risk if it doesn’t go well. These topics always show how differently people value this area of life. It’s interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:27 AM
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I could say the same about hookup culture/casual sex. But it seems like a waste of time to pass those kinds of subjective value judgments on something I do not agree with or entirely understand. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:55 AM
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I tend to assume if someone is waiting, sexual compatibility isn’t a priority or dealbreaker for them. At that point you would hopefully handle it the way you would handle any other lifestyle compatibility issue: compromise, negotiation, communication/finding a middle ground. If you prioritize sexual compatibility and wouldn’t be willing to compromise…I don’t know lol. It’s hard for me to imagine someone deeply valuing it while also waiting for marriage. But it probably happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:39 AM
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Sorry! Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:36 PM
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MBTI was created by individuals with very little formal training in psychology. I say that as someone who loves and has thoroughly studied MBTI and other areas of personality typology. If you want to put all your chips in it, you’re free to do so, but any significant amount of time spent researching and discussing this field will reveal some significant problems, including a lack of reliable data and scientific rigor. (I also want to add that while it has a basis in Jungian theory, and he was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:14 PM
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What about the enneagram? Or Big 5/OCEAN? Or Keirsey temperament/Socionics/other variants of MBTI and Jungian personality type theory? How do you decide which one is correct and which ones are not? How do you know they aren’t all forms of pseudoscience?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:49 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:33 PM
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How many personalities are there? If they’re limited, I imagine it’s quantifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:06 PM
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Huh. Interesting but it makes sense. I guess I don’t think about head shapes much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:03 PM
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Perhaps. But that makes me wonder if women truly experience less variation in personality, or if women are simply better at masking and publicly conforming. (Or perhaps not “better,” but more willing to do so.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:46 PM
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Do you believe everyone adheres to and appreciates norms just because the norms exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:39 PM
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A square-ish head…?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:43 PM
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Are there statistics regarding the variance of personality traits in men and women? I would be interested to learn more about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:39 PM
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People don’t want to put in the work to understand one another. That’s the bottom line. Extending your hand across the aisle and accepting nuances isn’t easy - it requires reflection, active listening (aka actually shutting your mouth once in a while), and compassion. It takes work, and it also asks for a degree of vulnerability…because sometimes, you might need to admit that you’re wrong. It’s far easier (and safer) for people to sit in their pre-conceived notions and shut their brains off. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:15 PM
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They aren’t unique snowflakes, but on the whole, there are more factors influencing a human’s development and behavior than there are factors influencing a striped bass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:02 PM
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I’d also wager that people who look at both sides of the coin don’t always feel compelled to comment, or they leave forgettable comments. The internet tends to reward the loudest voices with the most dug-in perspectives. Someone who says “hey, that’s a valid point” and goes about their day is gonna get drowned out most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:56 PM
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well that just sounds silly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:48 PM
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I was gonna make this joke
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:30 PM
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As a woman who doesn’t participate in the movement, I can’t speak to how beneficial RP actually is, or how that purpose is expressed in someone’s life. But as a person who has endured various traumas, and who struggled with my own childhood, yes, that sense of purpose is absolutely something that pulls me towards various movements. Trauma clouds our definition of “self” - our very foundation - and RP claims to offer clarity, and ultimately improvement, in that area. Perfect match. (And of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:25 PM
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That’s dangerous while driving
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:35 AM
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Yeah, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to connect childhood trauma/bad childhoods in general to an affinity for more “extremist” or fringe beliefs later in life. Cult members, extreme political views, etc. are one expression of that. I think RP might be a less “intense” version of this same situation, for lack of a better word. RP provides strong, assertive answers, and a solid sense of structure/rules, and a set of tools to negotiate a particularly complex aspect of the human experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:21 AM
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Plenty of people are not interested in casual sex whatsoever. Maybe it’s not as common as people who are, but it still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:09 PM
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Sorry for misinterpreting!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:09 PM
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Most things on Reddit will be taken at face value, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 03:41 PM
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Sex isn’t enjoyable for everyone under all circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:44 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily predatory, but it definitely sounds pretty awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:00 PM
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If the choices are “be alone” or “do something that makes me deeply uncomfortable with someone I do not yet love, do not fully trust, and who apparently will not respect my desire to wait” then yeah. Being alone sounds like an infinitely better option. Being alone doesn’t compromise my values and doesn’t hurt me. I can’t say the same for having sex with someone before I actually want to or am ready to do so. Frankly, I don’t understand negotiating something like this. My belief is far more impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:56 PM
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I’d argue that’s the way any wish-fulfillment media works, whether it’s male-centric or female-centric. The fictional objects of affection that perform best tend to have very little personality, so they can become whatever the consumer wants them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:19 PM
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I tend to have people get mad when I share my own alternative experience or beliefs, and say they “weren’t talking about me” or I’m “the minority” and therefore don’t fit into the conversation. Which is fine, they don’t have to be talking about me. But if women who don’t fit the stereotypes aren’t welcome in discussions about those stereotypes, it does make me doubt how productive the conversations could possibly be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:27 PM
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People could take the time to write “lots of women do abc, and I believe all women have the capacity to do it because of xyz, here are my sources and my evidence, let’s discuss this while also considering alternative perspectives and engaging in meaningful dialogue.” But it’s the internet and that wouldn’t upset enough people (which I believe is usually the point of AWALT posts - to vent, and to rile up the audience.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:00 PM
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But are you telling the gun it’s loaded over and over again, even though the gun is telling you it isn’t? Are you telling the gun it needs to prove itself to you in order to earn your affection/acceptance/etc.? Are you having discussions with the gun about behaviors of past guns in your life, and making the gun feel like it is responsible for what other guns have done to you? The gun metaphor is cute, but it sterilizes the situation by removing the human element.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:49 PM
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At least in this sub, it’s rare for the subject to be presented in a nuanced, measured way. As a result, people respond from a place of intense activation and defensiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:33 PM
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Yeah, I think the key to NAWALT is a solid reason for being unable to conform: not conventionally attractive, autism/other disorders, whatever. Anything forcing a person to the fringes. If a person can fold into their social group, they absolutely will, and I can’t blame them…it makes life much, much easier. But that comes at the expense of being free to develop your own unique interests and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:30 PM
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If you don’t want to create a child, don’t participate in the activity required to create a child. It’s an incredibly simple thing to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:18 PM
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No one can genuinely understand how anyone else feels. We all just make assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:50 AM
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Can I ask why swallowing is important? I’ve never seen anybody express a strong opinion one way or another (but I’ve also never actually talked to anybody about it, so maybe people do have strong feelings lol.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:48 AM
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I don’t know. Lots of dickish behavior is legal, but I wouldn’t say it’s all socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:26 PM
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It’s shit behavior no matter who does it. I imagine very few rational people actually think it’s “perfectly okay” for women to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:11 PM
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Have people really never met a woman with self-esteem issues before? I’m not saying that to be snarky or anything, I’m genuinely curious. There are a lot of threads that have this same tone - women all think they’re hot, women have inflated egos, women all only go for guys out of their league. But I’ve known so many shy/awkward women who don’t think they’re attractive or worth much. I don’t understand how the people sharing experiences like this have seemingly never met a girl who feels bad abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:36 AM
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I do not believe that people only find certain people gross because they can’t attract them. If I fail to attract someone, I still acknowledge that I find them attractive. When I don’t find someone attractive, I am not interested in them from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:31 PM
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Some women are not attracted to the qualities being discussed here. It has nothing to do with their own ability to attract people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 06:14 AM
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