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1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate What? No. All I'm saying is that we have to be critical (but constructive) with the data. We should point out when it is misleading, what could be improved, what can actually be inferred from the figures, etc. I'm all for rational criticism. That's what I tried to do in my initial comment by pointing out that the difference in working hours alone does not suffice to explain the gender gap (because it still exists in hourly wage). I'm happy people pointed out that my initial point was badly made.…	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 12:32 PM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate Other things I have heard (but never seen any objective eval of this, so can't say either way) is: men are better at negotiating their salaries for equivalent qualifications, men tend to apply for jobs where they are underqualified, whereas women tend to apply for jobs where they are overqualified. I have absolutely no data on this so take it as you may. Anyway, hopefully misogynist attitudes are becoming less frequent, and people will be ashamed about it in 50 years, pretty much like we are ash…	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:38 AM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate Society man!	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:32 AM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate Wow, thanks! This is a very nice overview!! I didn't have time to do a lit review :) This is not my specialty at all but I couldn't refrain from commenting, being an economist... Thanks for the more updated info! (I didn't know I was commenting in Men's Rights subreddit....)	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:31 AM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate (I didn't know I was stepping into Men's Rights territory when I wrote my comment :)	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:29 AM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate Thanks for the info. I haven't had time to do a literature review! I'm glad that actually I could spark a bit of debate, and at least push the two points: gender gap still exists (albeit a lot smaller) after controlling for occupational choice, so the fact that the 77% is not accurate does not mean that we should dismiss the issue. one should ask why do women choose such different occupations (biological reasons maybe, but I'm sure it has more to do with reasons such as career-path, flexibility,…	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:28 AM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate Academic economists are the first to admit that their knowledge is often very limited... Most of them are extremely humble. Hence the answer you will most often hear from an economist is: "It depends." (Not always so from policy economists, who, as you point out are often more eager to push a given agenda than be careful about reaching conclusions too fast.) Also, undergrad economics only gives rough basics, and you should definitely not take this as a proof of proficiency... Same as you wouldn'…	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:18 AM
1	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate You're right! But I just don't want this to be used as an argument to justify gender-gap in similar occupations... (which does exist).	/r/MensRights	18/10/12 10:04 AM
11	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate Ah yeah sorry, accessed from my university :) This is accessible and might be more interesting: http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Gender_pay_gap_statistics	/r/MensRights	17/10/12 05:45 PM
236	feminist myth of women earning $0.72 to a man's $1 repeated in u.s. presidential debate As an economist who doesn't my technical "facts" from news outlets but rather from peer-reviewed renowned journals, I find this a bit light... First I should mention that I don't know about this 77%, but the gender gap is a well documented, based on HOURLY pay (so amount of time you work per year is irrelevant) and similar qualifications. For instance: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2117457?seq=2 (The AER is one of the most reputable economic journals in the world.) Even so, imagining that women wo…	/r/MensRights	17/10/12 05:25 PM