| Upvotes | Title | Category | Author | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 78 | TV Host Slams Audience For Laughing At Male Domestic Violence Victim (x-post from r/television) | Progress | thy_neighbor | /r/MensRights | 02/08/17 12:43 PM |
| 62 | The highest Italian court sets a new standard for divorce litigations. And, for once, it's fair. | Marriage/Divorce | thy_neighbor | /r/MensRights | 11/05/17 12:45 PM |
| 21 | Is there any limit to what a woman is entitled after marriage? | thy_neighbor | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 09:49 AM | |
| 4 | Why marriage is too risky for men / Karen Straughan @ Sidney Institute (xpost from /r/mensrights) | thy_neighbor | /r/MGTOW | 16/06/17 11:02 PM | |
| 4 | I mean... come the fuck on. How shamelessly idiotic can a person be? (x-post /r/legaladvice) | thy_neighbor | /r/MGTOW | 19/09/17 10:43 PM | |
| 3 | Never Forget | thy_neighbor | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/17 10:35 AM | |
| 1 | Yo oh oh... | thy_neighbor | /r/MGTOW | 24/01/18 08:48 PM |
| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 18 | You are all a bunch of moronsIt seems you wrongly assumed that anyone here gives a fuck about what you think. | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/18 09:48 AM |
| 6 | WTF Canada?! Walk Away.For the very same reason you owe all your ex-wives money even if you don't even see them anymore. They need their independence and you became their official sponsor when you said "I do". Next time you better read the fine print. | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/18 10:10 AM |
| 2 | The panic is real.Can you imagine people making allegations without any proof to support them? Can you imagine people destroying lives with false allegations? Can you imagine people not being able to say a word in their defense or being completely ignored without any valid reason? Those people are facing injustice of unprecedented magnitude! /s | /r/MGTOW | 17/09/18 03:18 AM |
| 3 | While at the hospital for my mom i learned a lesson.I disagree, at least to a certain degree. I've visited relatives in hospitals, and there have always been strict visiting schedules, usually within a time window of about 2 hours. This is because some of the patients really need rest and can benefit from as much quiet as possible. In addition to that there are usually rules to avoid big crowds of people in the same room, so when too many people are visiting the same patient they can't get in all together. | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/18 06:55 PM |
| 7 | Can somebody explain? Why can they just ban subs? How?I honestly didn't think reddit's admins would stoop so low, but here we are. I'd like you guys realize how dangerous is this kind of action: the unilateral censoring of anything that doesn't perfectly align to someone's point of view is bound to create a sterile echo-chamber where people will never improve as individuals. Reddit is losing its soul. It will become yet another conglomerate of forums about video games, cat images and biased propaganda. Pity, I kinda had some hopes for the Reddit pr… | /r/MGTOW | 13/09/18 03:06 PM |
| 4 | 🚧 Is discrimination against Men real? Yes, here are 2 dozens examples of it.realsexism.com | /r/MGTOW | 30/08/18 08:03 AM |
| 33 | Woman wants an open marriage for her but not for her fiance; also, her FEMALE therapist supports this - AWALTThere is an update to this story, if you're interested. | /r/MGTOW | 30/08/18 07:56 AM |
| 3 | How Rare Are NAWALTS?Rare enough that it's not worth even considering the possibility. | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/18 06:56 PM |
| 1 | A massive whiff of desperationI don't believe this is useful. It usually doesn't take much to "hack" an electronic device, and the process is even faster when you have access to the hardware. If this is going to shut up all the crazy people who think that sexbots are everything that's wrong with men, so be it. But if they think this is going to serve whatever purpose they have in mind, I'm pretty sure they're going to be sorely mistaken. | /r/MGTOW | 01/07/18 12:33 PM |
| 2 | A Castrated Simp Could Make A Lovable PetExcept that his statement is mostly wrong. Traditionally the role of ruler has been bestowed upon men, however in the few cases of past female rulers it was evident that women do not hesitate to engage in wars and genocides, as Isabella I of Spain (Columbus and the following Conquistadores wiping out entire native American populations) and queen Victoria of England (conquest of Africa, India and south-east Asia, with the obvious wars) are just two among many examples. | /r/MGTOW | 30/06/18 09:03 AM |
| 10 | Trufemcels are calling us wursties and moids. We can do better than that! Let's see what kinda names we can come up with for them. #Crestie, #Trogmella, #PutSomeLippyOnItDude... stop. Just stop. I honestly don't give a damn about how others try to name call or shame me, and you shouldn't either. They don't really know you, and you don't really know them, however they're already getting under your skin and you're happily playing their game by engaging in this puerile battle of insults. If you really feel the need to give them the attention they're demanding from you by trying (and succeeding, it seems) to insult you, then you really haven't grasped what this sub … | /r/MGTOW | 22/06/18 08:46 AM |
| 2 | Unpopular opinion: the more beat up your car looks, the more I respect you.I only partially agree with you. If you can afford to maintain an high profile car, by all means go ahead and enjoy it. If you want to save as much as you can, you should focus on the most reliable and low maintenance car produced in the last 4-5 years. Do not look for older cars, or you'll get stuck with their maintenance costs that, even if low, will stack up due to their frequency in occurrence. | /r/MGTOW | 20/06/18 06:47 PM |
| 12 | Saw this gem in Legal Advice.It reminds me of a joke that, apparently, it's more likely an anecdote. A man goes to his doctor and asks him how could he have been mistaken about his infertility, since his wife is pregnant. The doctor then tells him a metaphor to explain the situation. Doc: " Let's assume you go hunting with your umbrella. You find a nice fat goose, so you aim with your umbrella, scream BANG and somehow the goose falls down dead. You think you've shot the goose down?" Man: " Of course not, someone else must h… | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/18 06:40 PM |
| 6 | Feminists in FaceBook got so angry after hearing what this man says. They feel gonna be obsolete as a lot MGTOW.That may not be enough to spare you the common law marriage. I don't have the source, but a piece of news from Canada that was on this sub some time ago stated that a man was considered in common law marriage because the woman brought proof that he was staying at her house 4-5 days per week on average. Just watch out, the world is full of predators. | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/18 07:35 AM |
| 18 | I am not sure if this belongs here. I kind of want to take her side over his. But still fun to read.The internet would burn with the rage-fire of a thousand sons. I kinda want to see that now. XD On a more serious note, the sentence that disgusts me the most is: I gave 10 of the best years of my life to this man and got nothing from it. To anyone who still doubts that some people simply cannot even grasp the concept of love, let alone feel it, please read again that line carefully. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 21/05/18 06:28 PM |
| 26 | [42] I'm circumstantially infertile. I spent all my youth dating bad boys in the City. I'm in my 40's now and even as I cry everytime at least I still have hope that Alpha Chad millionaire will marry me.If you really wanted kids. You should have found a reliable husband decent father, and latched onto him like a bear trap no matter how he looked or how many tingles you felt initially. Then you would have gotten kids. I guess they weren't important enough for you take a pass on your tingles. That would be all in her interest and a probable time bomb for the poor fellow. In the current system, any woman who isn't completely and absolutely in love with her husband (or "crazy for him" if you want) … | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/05/18 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Being accused of being gay.There are two rebuttals I use when a girl tries this kind of shame tactic. One is more diplomatic than the other: "No, I'm not gay. And even if I was, I don't see how this is your business." "No, I'm not gay. It's just that my standards are not so abysmally low." Use them with caution, may cause drama. | /r/MGTOW | 17/04/18 08:29 AM |
| 2 | Delusional Ex-Wife StoryDon't be stupid like I was at 27 and listen to people telling you to man up -- you won't have to deal with bullshit like this. This right here. What I really want people to understand is that it's your life and it's up to you to live it how you desire. Of course you should listen to what people tell you, but the trick is to analyze every suggestion critically since you will be the one that will have to live through the consequences of you actions, not the people who were so keen in dispensing su… | /r/MGTOW | 10/04/18 10:41 PM |
| 6 | [27F] "I've was way too easy in the past and forgot to get a commitment, so now, you are going to have to be my best friend first, and then we will talk about having that relationshit that I deserve.""Average body type" - eh well that may well be true for America today, but I'm still calling it FAT. The problem is that she's at least partially right. Statistically, more than 41% of the women in US are obese and almost 10% are morbidly obese, so the "average body type" has fundamentally become the one you see pictured so many times in this sub. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/03/18 08:07 PM |
| 4 | Anyone else sometimes feeling it's you against the world?Yes, I do believe it's myself against the world. But I wouldn't have it any other way: otherwise it wouldn't be a fair fight. | /r/MGTOW | 23/03/18 08:07 AM |
| 29 | [45F] "Why are all u men 5ft 8? Where is my 6ft hero?" She's only 5 feet tall.There is nothing wrong with a 5'8" man, or any height to be honest. It's not like a man's value is measured with his height. I believe a man's height is like diamonds to women: absolutely useless, but used to boast with their peers and thus a tool to get social status among the other shallow minded members of their group. I honestly believe that all this bullshit about man's height will backfire hard on their back, since there will never be enough 6' tall men to please them all, at least for the… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/03/18 02:52 PM |
| 4 | Porn addict here how do I feel love and connection ?Depending on his libido you may have just created the next olympic gold medalist. | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/18 08:45 AM |
| 26 | No hugging: are we living through a crisis of touch?You've got to be kidding... After all the mess that's happening with #metoo, "time's up" and the women "setting boundaries" for any interactions with 2 human beings, they have the guts to come out with an article like this? Every time I think I've read, heard or seen the most out-of-touch opinion by someone, I get surprised by an even more outrageous statement. Are these people even living on the same planet? Not to mention that the author keeping track of all "human touches" (including the even… | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/18 08:40 AM |
| 8 | Women Dating Coach definition on why mgtow is bad LOL[hyperbaley?] It's "hyperbole", a figure of speech to indicate a concept pushed so much to the extreme that it spiraled out of control. In this case she's assuming that giving up relationships is just too much of an answer to the current state of dating and marriage. But she couldn't say otherwise, now could she? If too many men give up dating altogether, she wouldn't have much success as "dating coach", whatever the hell that means. | /r/MGTOW | 13/03/18 08:30 AM |
| 12 | The current state of the gameIt's been a while since my last chess game, but if I remember correctly, this is a draw and the game cannot go further: there are no legal moves for the black but the white has not forced a checkmate yet. Maybe I'm too obtuse, but this metaphor would imply that this game has simply ended in a draw. | /r/MGTOW | 07/03/18 10:10 AM |
| 15 | hmmLook, I understand your point, and I agree that not all single moms are the same. In fact, I believe that widows are usually just women who have been quite unlucky (at least the ones who weren't involved in their husbands' death). However, when I see a non-widow single mom (and at 26 the chances of her being a widow are quite slim), I know one of the following facts is true: She left her former partner, Her former partner left her. Whatever the case, she acted irresponsibly by having a child wit… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/03/18 09:20 PM |
| 70 | hmmYou sweet summer child... have an upvote. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/03/18 09:07 PM |
| 19 | Fat shaming from cancer researchI'm a firm believer of darwinism: society fulfilled its duty by informing people that obesity is a dangerous health condition. If she chooses to ignore it, than it's on her. I honestly have no anger or hate towards obese people, I don't have pity for their condition either though. They made their own (death) bed. | /r/MGTOW | 01/03/18 05:51 PM |
| 1 | The destruction of marriage is leading to decreased fertility.That's one of the problem of the current economic system, to be fair. If you need more people each generation to sustain the system, then it's no different from a pyramidal system scam. What I'm arguing here is that it's time that each generation strives for independence from both the following and the one that lived before. | /r/MGTOW | 14/02/18 09:15 AM |
| 2 | The destruction of marriage is leading to decreased fertility.I'm always taken aback by the general concerns about fertility. There are more than 7 billions human beings on the planet, and it's getting quite messy. Is it really that bad if the population shrinks for a few decades? | /r/MGTOW | 13/02/18 06:25 PM |
| 161 | When you marry, you'll understand why I scold your father.If you want to silence once and for all your mother about your marital status, the next time try like this: Mom: " You're an adult now, why are you still single? You should think about marriage and a family!" You: " Thanks mom, but I really don't want to end up like dad." | /r/MGTOW | 12/02/18 12:41 PM |
| 7 | The husband storeYou didn't finish it! There is also the wife store. Same rules apply. 1st floor: Loyal women. 2nd floor: Loyal and gorgeous women. 3rd floor: Loyal, gorgeous women who are brilliant housewives and caring mothers. The other floors have never been explored yet. | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/18 10:58 PM |
| 12 | Women will blame everyone else rather than address the issue at hand.If I recall correctly (couldn't find the source now), the boy scouts started to admit girls in their ranks because a girl wanted to join boy scouts and not the female equivalent, but went to court after being denied the admission in the boy scouts for - you'll never guess it - not being a boy. The judge said it was a discriminatory policy and ordered the association to reconsider (yay feminism!) and so the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) were forced to open the doors to any kid, not just boys (no us… | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/17 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Women cheat on their husbands to save the marriage... Of course!It's even more unfair if you think that their children are actually the lover's. It's quite pathetic to think that it's come to this point. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 01:07 PM |
| 6 | Women cheat on their husbands to save the marriage... Of course!Well, if that's the case, who would you rather be? The husband or the lover? | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 02:43 AM |
| 1 | What do I say to this?You can answer simply that at the moment the relationship between a man and a woman is not balanced. The woman dictates everything in the relationship and the man is simply powerless to make a stand on any point. The only choice that you can still do is to choose if you want to stay in that relationship or walk away. About that special someone, let's assume for the sake of the argument that, albeit rare, there are a relevant number of women worth dating. How many bad relationships do you have to… | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 12:39 AM |
| 7 | Man figures out how to keep 100% in a divorce.I believe it was necessary, since the ex-wife would take a percentage of whatever her husband's income is. If I understand correctly (and it's a big if, since the situation is not explained in detail), the man in the post has built an ideal situation in which his official income is just 1000$. It would not surprise me if the mother would buy whatever he wants with those assets and label them as "gifts" which will not be bound to alimony/child support calculations. But then again, I'm not a lawye… | /r/MGTOW | 27/11/17 11:15 PM |
| 4 | I’m down for this next year. MGTOWsgiving.No takeaway for me, buddy. Not to boast or anything, but I'm a pretty good and versatile cook myself (not to mention that I enjoy cooking as a hobby), so if I think there's something I may like I have no issues in cooking it myself. | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/17 12:22 PM |
| 6 | Hamsters React (Stupidly) to Men’s Worries About Office BehaviorI think that these women are subconsciously or maliciously ignoring a relevant part of the whole issue. The main problem of the shitstorm that is causing such a chasm between the genders is that ultimately we have regulations to social interaction that can be enforced under subjective interpretations of their parameters. Subjective is the key word. The first requirement of a law is that it should clearly state what is not tolerated by society (and thus punished), but when said parameters change … | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 08:21 AM |
| 3 | Book recommendationsIn my case, it's "The Count of Monte Cristo" by Alexandre Dumas. It's a bit bigger, but extremely satisfying. The ending is also incredibly well thought, but you will never get a chance to experience it in any of the movies inspired by the book because it's not really "politically correct". I'm keeping vague on purpose, since it would be a shame to spoil it; but it's one of the best book I've ever read (and I'm quite the book worm). Another book that might interest you if you want something a bi… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/17 05:52 PM |
| 29 | The Number of Young Men Not Working Has Doubled in 15 Years.Have you noticed how, when someone doesn't bend to their inhumane standards, they resort to the shame tactic? "They're lazy!" "They're deadbeats!" "They don't want to work!" Does it ring any bell? | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/17 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Have daughter with GF, family presses to marryNever do something because other people tell you to do it. It's never a good idea. It's even worse if we're talking about marriage. If you're going to marry, it must be because you're absolutely 100% sure of what you're doing, and not because someone said that's what you should do. Dude, if your family (meaning you, your gf and your child) are doing fine, than what's the point? In my opinion marriage has completely lost its point: it's a vow either of you can break without any reason at all, and… | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/17 11:08 AM |
| 35 | The Number of Young Men Not Working Has Doubled in 15 Years.I think this article is somehow misleading. It's is true that more and more young men aren't working, but it's also true that most often than not the pay for the job is miserable. So if someone has to choose between working a couple of hours for a few dollars (that will get him almost nothing, mind you), or just enjoying the free time (having a stroll, jogging, seeing friends, playing video games, and so on), I really can't blame them for avoid working. TL;DR: Problem: not enough worker are inte… | /r/MGTOW | 05/11/17 10:59 AM |
| 2 | What's a word that's the opposite of empathy. That thing women have where they simply don't care about your problems. Like anti-empathy.I think the word you're looking for is egocentricity. It has a Latin origin and roughly means "putting myself at the center of everything". So while empathy makes you acknowledge and understand other people feelings, egocentricity bluntly ignores them in order to focus on yourself and yourself only. | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/17 05:05 PM |
| 8 | [34F] "I am tired of bad boys and want a wholesome man, but I am not ready to jump into anything unless the perfect thing falls into my lap."I consider this much more than a simple scam or fraud. This is an actually fatally dangerous practice. Every year an indecent amount of people get convinced into believing these charlatans and by doing so they often pass on the real, scientifically approved, cure. Too many times people who could have fully recovered from a curable disease put their trust into an "alternative therapy" that does simply nothing, while their health problem keeps getting worse, until it will eventually be too late. I… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/10/17 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Conflicts of Fatherhood; Help a Dad Out HereI want to deliberately ignore everything that led you to this point and focus on your situation now, since that's all that matters at the moment. In your shoes I'd do pretty much anything in my power to start, at very least, enjoying my life within the limitation your parental responsibilities allow. That means taking a break every now or then (for example go ride your bike for a couple of hours, the world is not going to end for it), dedicate yourself to a sport or the gym, even casually (it's … | /r/MGTOW | 18/10/17 01:15 PM |
| 3 | 'Why Women Have Totally Unrealistic Standards for Men, Dating, and Marriage' - by a womanMaybe I am too cynical, but when she lowered the mask once, just once, I believe I got a glimpse of her real persona: she didn't want to help other women to prove they were better than her; she didn't want other woman to get someone better than the one for which she settled, because that would mean she's inferior to all those women or could have had a better pick. Honestly, this kind of behavior is a big part of the problem: they don't live to find happiness, they live to show off. Everything el… | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/17 11:05 AM |
| 4 | I was shamed and insulted today because I don't want to date a woman with kids......As someone already pointed out the reason to avoid dating a single mom are many. You may ignore some of them, but it's clear that instinctively you figured out that's a very raw deal. If it happens again that you're dragged in this kind of conversation, try to avoid losing your temper (it's a mess when everybody starts shouting) and use the same arguments that I do: I don't date single moms because I've had bad experiences in the past, and to me the situation gets just too complicated. There are… | /r/MGTOW | 15/09/17 07:21 AM |
| 4 | "HAVE BEEN HURT BEFORE I NEED A GOOD MAN IN MY LIFE."Beside all the obvious, can someone help me understand the contact requirements? I mean, it's clearly stated that you are NOT allowed to contact her if you're a male (isn't she a 28 single straight female?). But then again, if we assume she didn't bother to read the second line (making it just a list of requirements the contacts must have to be allowed to contact her), then she's looking for someone who is more than 5 miles away from her (bad reputation in her hometown?), that has an age between… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/09/17 05:51 PM |
| 10 | TV Host Slams Audience For Laughing At Male Domestic Violence Victim (x-post from r/television)I just hope that this behavior will be the rule and not the exception. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/17 03:46 PM |
| 15 | "I'm def not a one night stand kinda girl, anymore."That's because it works. On a related issue, try thinking about how smart is the average guy. Now realize that half the population is dumber than that. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/08/17 06:10 PM |
| 7 | Sex robots: Inside Chinese factory making sex dolls set to go globalIt is unlikely that there will be any meaningful impact on the diffusion of these kind of toys: there will always be a country who will produce them without limitations and smuggling has never been stopped in the history of customs. As long as there will be a flexible demand willing to pay enough to get a significant profit, there will be someone that will offer the good you're looking for. An historical example is the attempt to ban alcoholic beverages in the 1920s. Despite the effort of the la… | /r/MGTOW | 23/07/17 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Not sure how to handle a rape accusation. No prosecution at this timeIf she wanted you to wear a condom, I don't see any plausible deniability of her consent. A decent lawyer should be able to destroy her case with ease. As for the fact that you admitted you should have been more considerate, depending on you exact words, I believe you should have been more considerate before accepting the seduction of a batshit crazy woman. Never stick your dick into crazy. | /r/MGTOW | 21/07/17 09:23 AM |
| 6 | Per The CDC: 94% Of Marriages End In Divorce Before The 10 Year Mark & Women Iniate The Divorces 80% of The Time, Dumping Their Husbands Usually For Some Other GuyFound the source. It seems the data reported from OP is effectively too low. A summed up table of the comprehensive data can be found here.: as it is shown, there is 53% chance of a marriage to reach 20 years (as of 2011-2015). More specifically (figure 4), the percentage of failure (or equivalently - of success) varies with race due to cultural background (note that probability is calculated as a number from 0 -impossibility- to 1 -certainty-, so you have to multiply by 100 to get the percentag… | /r/MGTOW | 21/07/17 08:57 AM |
| 8 | TrappedI'm sorry for you, man. I truly am. As you pointed out, there's very little you can do, and it all leads to an unfavorable situation for you. However, aside from giving you a virtual pat on the back and a few supportive words, the only thing I can suggest you is to consult a lawyer: this doesn't mean you will have to divorce, but he will know better than anyone else what are your options at this point. Stay strong, brother. | /r/MGTOW | 20/07/17 06:44 PM |
| 3 | Notice: The "Welcome to hell, please enjoy your stay!" post has been removed. Didn't notice OP was a widow.Good catch, and I'm happy that the mod somehow amended the mistake. Much respect to both. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 18/07/17 05:06 PM |
| 5 | Currently on r/all. "Capable of handling a high maintenance and very expensive woman."Holy shit I just saw the last picture you linked. Doesn't anyone realize how much like an expensive hooker she speaks about herself? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 18/07/17 05:00 PM |
| 10 | Currently on r/all. "Capable of handling a high maintenance and very expensive woman."Good income + Capable of handling high maintenance and very expensive woman= "you need to earn 7 figures because I want you to pay for all the shit I want or I'll dump your ass". Thanks, but hell no. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 18/07/17 04:55 PM |
| 3 | How to Teach My Nephew to Be a ManI support the option of the great outdoors, even if I'd stay away from hunting/fishing, as they're quite a gamble (sometimes you don't get lucky for whatever reason, and it may result in a very boring day for a 9 years old). Instead I would opt for hiking and camping in a great spot, and let him enjoy all the benefit of being a young man as free as he will ever be: let him decide what to do, when to do it (of course with your supervision and tutoring). If you play your cards right, he will remem… | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/17 08:02 PM |
| 4 | This post if found on facebook feed literally make me laughWell... /r/whereareallthegoodmen Of course there's a sub for that. | /r/MGTOW | 06/06/17 07:11 PM |
| 7 | Changing Agreement?You should have sole custody of all your children while allowing their mother visitations, since she clearly is not even able to take care of herself, much less your children. Once she gets her shit together and has a stable home environment (stable income, decent house, time to look after the children, and so on), you can renegotiate the terms of your divorce once again to have her fill in the parental duties, if you so desire. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/17 04:56 PM |
| 1 | 'I'm fighting my ex-wife for every person who's been shafted by Britain's divorce courts'If you're referring to the article in question, than there actually is a point in sensationalizing it, since it can be used in other cases to swing the resolution completely in the woman's favor. | /r/MGTOW | 05/06/17 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Quick update, men are animals is guess.Not to mention all the "women" who just leave their newborn to die when they could file him/her up for adoption anonimously. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/17 04:49 PM |
| 1 | 'I'm fighting my ex-wife for every person who's been shafted by Britain's divorce courts'There is something deeply wrong with laws when a man is better off killing his ex wife than allowing her to divorce. The fact that almost all people who committed suicide due to divorce are men is easily explained: once divorced, the woman usually gets everything for the rest of her life, paid by the man, while the man becomes a wage slave. | /r/MGTOW | 05/06/17 01:49 PM |
| 1 | LOL this is what the fraudminists want: Armpit hair for the women, lacy clothing for the men.To each one his/her own. I don't discuss tastes (as long as they don't hurt anybody) because it's absolutely pointless. What I do not tolerate (and never will) is someone imposing his tastes on others. It's like you like blue, but someone else wants to force you to like yellow for some idiotic reason. So all the people trying to force their tastes on others just so because they can feel better, they're just sad, narcissistic, egocentric idiots. The best thing you can do is just shake your head a… | /r/MGTOW | 04/06/17 08:18 PM |
| 8 | [Serious] I need advice or helpHey Jacob, you should post you request for help to /r/personalfinance. They're really helpful and I'm sure will give you a lot of invaluable help to get through this rough patch as smoothly as possible. All I can add is that I suggest you to focus on giving yourself some sort of stability, both economic and mental, so that you can start from there with a clear mind and a safety net under you. I really wish you the best of luck. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/17 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Entitled 3rd wave feminist publicly condemns feminism on Facebook after She Hits The Wall At The Ripe Age Of 40It's pretty cool, and the mod seems quite invested in the cause. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/17 05:38 PM |
| 0 | How To Save Western Civilization by repealing women's suffrage - Why does Roosh keep claiming credit for the work of others?Only fools generalize. Not all education centers suck. Of course, most schools in the US are managed as for-profit companies, so you get shitty education out of that. Education is not something you want to be monetized. Education is the long term investment of a society on its future. I was lucky enough to attend a public school with teachers who, despite their wages, put an invaluable effort at educating students in the best way possible: by developing our ability to think and rationalize for o… | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/17 01:38 PM |
| 2 | How To Save Western Civilization by repealing women's suffrage - Why does Roosh keep claiming credit for the work of others?That's the kind of mentality that leads to anti-vaccines idiots and flat earth enthusiasts. You can only inform yourself after you have been educated enough to value each and every information critically and without prejudices. The formal education should not be valued just for the lessons themselves, but for the study method you acquire during the school years, which is by far more valuable. People who lack education are a lot easier to manipulate than others, allowing charismatic selfish peopl… | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/17 12:13 PM |
| 6 | Entitled 3rd wave feminist publicly condemns feminism on Facebook after She Hits The Wall At The Ripe Age Of 40Shoutout to /r/whereareallthegoodmen. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/17 09:47 AM |
| 2 | How To Save Western Civilization by repealing women's suffrage - Why does Roosh keep claiming credit for the work of others?I disagree, education is paramount. Everyone should know how laws are made and who's responsible for them, not to mention they should have a good knowledge of history (at very least of the last 100 years) to avoid committing the same mistakes done in the past. In addition, education will allow every voter to see through the veil of bullshit with which most politicians cover their asses and call out on them. Again, a nation guided by ignorance is a doomed nation. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/17 09:10 AM |
| 12 | Is there anything single moms can't do?The good communists are the one who work their fair share. That's why communism cannot work in real life: not enough good ones, and too many freeloaders exploiting the system. | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/17 05:28 PM |
| 19 | Rise in mid-life divorces as older men ditch wivesWhich means he prefers to actually pay her to stay away from him. I mean, how bad can it be? | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/17 05:21 PM |
| 2 | How To Save Western Civilization by repealing women's suffrage - Why does Roosh keep claiming credit for the work of others?To be honest I think there should be a restriction to the voting population, but that should not be based on gender. I think that it should be based on how you are contributing and will contribute to society and how educated is your vote. Basically only people who have successfully completed a bare minimum of educational curriculum should be able to vote. For example: only people who finished high school, registered for the draft, are doing 8 hours per month of volunteering work and have a clean… | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/17 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Pretty much sums up marriage.I don't think they demands will be met. And even if they will be met, the vast majority of men will go MGTOW. I don't think there are enough insane men to basically marry a woman they have just met. | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/17 12:26 AM |
| 15 | Why are women against the male birth control pill?That's why prostitution is illegal btw. Hey don't generalize. In civilized countries prostitution is not only legal, but taxed. And it sustains the economy quite well. | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/17 04:35 PM |
| 9 | Women Struggle To Pass Basic Military Training Despite Lowered StandardsThis is honestly worrying, in particular because these "politically correct" guidelines for admissions are going to be extended to police and fire departments. There are reasons about why those requirements are there, and they're quite important. A soldier must be able to carry his equipment for as much as it takes to get to safety, and if needed arises, he needs to be able to save a wounded comrade in arm by helping him back into safe territory. If they lower the standards they may give some wo… | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/17 07:43 AM |
| 18 | Men fed up with their 'men roles' break silence in Mexico City.Quite the opposite. From what I understand from the article (my Spanish is kinda rusty) they raise the same points brought in the documentary "the red pill", but in mexico those problems are exacerbated by a deeply troubled economy and a set of obsolete cultural prejudices. Just giving a few examples: in mexico, if you're not able to fully provide for your family and to meet your wife's demands, you're a failure as a man; they reported cases of women assaulting their partner, who in turn is help… | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | If she's not pregnant, I'm outNo morning after pill? I mean, there are birth controls that target each and every phase of the pregnancy. Just ask her to take precautions and you'll be fine. Of course that's if she didn't want to get pregnant in the first place, but if that was the case, she would have been on the pill and we wouldn't have this conversation now, would we? | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/17 02:58 PM |
| 4 | Pussy Pass gets her a pass to Hades bwahahahahahahahahBecause the alternative is realizing their daughter was a junkie and they're a failure as parents. Much easier to dodge any accountability for their own failures and blaming the officer. | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/17 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Every marriage is a violation of the 13th amendment - My BrotherUnfair Surprise: When the party who creates the contract includes a term in the contract without the other parties knowledge and is not within the other parties expectations Ok, can someone please explain to me how the fuck can women force a man to pay child support for a child that was not planned (at least on the man's part) or when it's even discovered that the father was not the biological father, but was tricked into fatherhood by a gold digging whore? | /r/MGTOW | 23/05/17 12:59 PM |
| 5 | The 50 - 50 housework crazinessHence MGTOW. Stay safe my friends. | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/17 01:39 PM |
| 6 | Any tips/strategies how to combat romantic crave?Ok, let's get serious about this issue. I can tell you how I coped, and from what I've read I was not the first, so I'll use the example made by a man much brighter and successful than me: the french writer Marie-Henri Beyle, better known by his pen name Stendhal. Stendhal used a very apt metaphor when explaining how we are basically scammed by what is commonly known as love. He called this particular event (the scam) la cristallisation (the crystallization). During winter the tree branches beco… | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/17 01:35 PM |
| 13 | The 50 - 50 housework crazinessTo be fair, she's saving you at least half your net worth just by standing there. And not divorcing you. Yet. | /r/MGTOW | 22/05/17 12:56 PM |
| 14 | These women are out of their minds.I know you're joking, but goddam how much I hate this politically correct bullshit that's going on. | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/17 09:29 AM |
| 3 | A double standard dilemmaFOR HEAVEN'S SAKE DUDE, USE PUNCTUATION! | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/17 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Why is r/TRP so against video games?I wasn't questioning, just suggesting alternatives. It's like when you see people who spends all their time staring at a wall. I feel compelled to suggest an alternative, just because I think they could be happier. However if they just want to keep staring at the wall, it's their call. | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/17 08:16 AM |
| 7 | They're coming after our sons now, disgusting beyond beliefIt's clear that laws are made by incompetent idiots: 14 yo boy has sex with 12 yo girl = sex offender (pedophile?) 70 yo man has sex with 18 yo girl = congratulations, grampa! Honestly, do they even thought a second about it? When the boy will be 22, the girl will be 20. When the boy will be 42, the girl will be 40. They were just too impatient, they've just chosen a poor time in their lifetime. | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/17 08:42 PM |
| 8 | Why is r/TRP so against video games?They see video games as a loser's hobby, since most women are turned off by it. However, if you don't need to have any contacts with women outside work/exceptions, it really is a feeble point. Video games are not a bad hobby, however I can only suggest you to avoid spending too much time on them. There are a lot of hobbies out there that are very rewarding and a lot more constructive. | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/17 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Stop watching moviesThat's Clark Gable in "gone with the wind", and right there you have the MGTOW concept expressed during a time when there still were family values and definite roles for both genders. His attitude was something really out of the box back then, also because he wouldn't have all the motivations you can find today. | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/17 08:30 PM |
| 6 | Stop watching moviesDon't be silly, generalization is only for fools. There still are movies worth watching. | /r/MGTOW | 19/05/17 10:50 AM |
| 1 | I just watched this "E" American channel. WTF!?!To be honest I think this is their parents' fault. It's all good to allow the kids to watch tv every now and then, as long as you, as a parent, oversee and educate them on what they're watching and the alternatives of just sitting idly being brainwashed by the media. | /r/MGTOW | 18/05/17 06:15 PM |
| 13 | I have reached the state of mehwith a deep voice from everywhere Welcome to the Mehrvana, my dear fried. You are now able to see through bullshit manipulations and shaming tactics. Use these powers responsibly and be what you were always meant to be: happy. | /r/MGTOW | 18/05/17 06:13 PM |
| 1 | I just watched this "E" American channel. WTF!?!You forget that you have the power to bring any channel down. Just avoid to watch it. They get money based on how many people are watching it, so if you don't like a channel just don't watch it: they will have less profit and you will not submit yourself to shit programs. Win-Win. Personally, I don't use the television anymore, with the only exception made to watch the dvd I have. | /r/MGTOW | 18/05/17 06:02 PM |
| 117 | The pain in those eyes...Enjoy your life full of child support and 80 hours of work per week just to stay afloat. | /r/MGTOW | 18/05/17 12:28 PM |
| 1 | has anyone here never had a girlfriend?I've had a few, and in the last LTR she cheated on me. Honestly, at least in my case, the only way is finding happiness on my own and so far is turning out quite well. I think I can still have short term flirts and hook ups, but even then I'm usually not very enthusiast: too much troubles and worries for too little reward. | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/17 03:32 PM |
| 1 | ShitRedditSays women have a meltdown over The Red Pill documentary getting high upvotes in r/DocumentariesWhen I was thinking about feminism, I had this image of a pendulum. It starts biased on one side, and once freed it goes full speed to the other opposite, unless someone doesn't counterbalance its swing and stops it in the middle, where there is a stable equilibrium. Same thing with feminism: it started when men had all the rights and all the responsibilities. Women asked for more rights. Fair enough, but there wasn't anyone asking them to make any sacrifices or taking on any more responsibiliti… | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/17 04:05 PM |
| 1 | ShitRedditSays women have a meltdown over The Red Pill documentary getting high upvotes in r/DocumentariesI think it's debatable. You can't have rights without taking on responsibilities, but you can't force people to take on responsibilities without allowing them their rights. You need to start somewhere, and either point is valid if the other follows through. Of course if you want all the rights without any of the responsibilities, we'll end up with a big problem. | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/17 08:50 AM |
| 16 | ShitRedditSays women have a meltdown over The Red Pill documentary getting high upvotes in r/DocumentariesFeminism started as a legitimate movement with noble purposes. Now it's just a disgusting farce fueled by hate and with the intent of promoting laws and regulations that are biased at best and completely sexist at worst. Feminism was all about gender equality. Try to switch the roles in any feminist agenda and see if they would like it. | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/17 08:15 AM |
| 10 | Women Don't Respect Men, So Why Should I Respect Them?That's because men have taken all kinds of shit without speaking out for too long. The next time a woman tries to shame-shitting you for any reason whatsoever and says things like "you're a loser" or "You're the worst", do not argue, but instead just say "You know what, you're right. I hope you find what you really deserve." and get the fuck out of there. Because if she's giving all that shit while you're in a relationship with them, things are only going to get worse. | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/17 07:53 AM |
| 3 | "Coming out" as a MGTOW. Ever a good idea?If you really feel like you have to give an answer to such personal questions, remember that the truth has many faces. You can tell them that you have been pretty burned last time you tried to date someone seriously, and you're trying to digest the bad experience before dating again. You can tell them that you have been taking a little break from dating to sort your life out and get your shit together before trying again. Or you can just tell them that all the girls you meet are either careless … | /r/MGTOW | 16/05/17 07:47 AM |
| 18 | And yet some people say "Just get a pre-nup bro"Come on, try to put yourself into their expensive shoes: how come all these men-children will not submit into wage slavery as the society dictates to pamper and fulfill all and every demands of the women who gracefully, in all their love, kindness and selflessness, accept to educate and lead them with the tightest leash to the great joy of providing for their family until their back breaks clean? | /r/MGTOW | 15/05/17 08:29 PM |
| 6 | Why can't I stick to my diet/working out?I can only tell you what worked for me. It's a subtle yet incredibly effective change in the way of thinking. You have to start learning not just to control your instinct, but to change it, meaning that you should try to not even think about breaking your diet. It helps if you do things methodically and have a certain routine that you follow strictly. After some time you will just do it without thinking. | /r/MGTOW | 14/05/17 10:28 AM |
| 7 | Is there anything in the universe that feminists don't blame men for?In my honest opinion feminism has degenerated so much that now is just a sick parody of itself. Now "feminists" do not seek equality, but explicit sexist favoritism against everyone and everything that will not benefit a woman directly, in any circumstances. You can see it everyday everywhere, and people are starting to wise up. I have the impression that the system is so biased against men that now a woman can put you in jail just because she feels like it (ever heard of false rape accusations?… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/17 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Would it be possible to monkey wrench everything?I strongly suggest you to go r/MGTOW. You'll find out that there are many like you who have found peace outside the system. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/17 11:07 PM |
| 1 | I have a question about womenI'm aware that it can be frustrating, but you need to keep it cool. Keep dating if you want, but do not focus on it. Find something that makes you happy (like an hobby, going to gym, hiking, and so on), I can assure that it will not just increase your happiness, but it will increase your chances of getting a successful date because you will look happier and more confident about yourself than you are now. Don't try to force how you look on other people's tastes, because it will not work: it's lik… | /r/MGTOW | 13/05/17 03:45 PM |
| 1 | The highest Italian court sets a new standard for divorce litigations. And, for once, it's fair.One step at a time. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/17 06:17 AM |
| 9 | The highest Italian court sets a new standard for divorce litigations. And, for once, it's fair.Exactly. Note that the ruling was done for an ex-minister's divorce settlement, so the gold digging situation was definitely taken into consideration. But after all, why on earth a woman who has been married to a man for as little as a couple of years is allowed to take so much money from him? | /r/MensRights | 11/05/17 02:03 PM |
| 5 | The highest Italian court sets a new standard for divorce litigations. And, for once, it's fair.I'll try to explain it by using examples you can find in the tabloids. Kobe recently got divorced. If he's worth 300 million dollars, the ex wife will get about 150 with the current laws, assuming they don't have children. The Italian court said that it is unreasonable to give such high amounts of money for a marriage as it is intended today, but it is however fair that both parties should be able to be financially independent, so to not being coerced to stay into a marriage just to feed themsel… | /r/MensRights | 11/05/17 02:00 PM |
| 6 | The highest Italian court sets a new standard for divorce litigations. And, for once, it's fair.That's what I hope. I'm confident that if the marriage was really fair for both partners, people would be more confident in try to form a family, and there would be less women hunting husbands just to take half (or even more) of their wealth. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/17 01:29 PM |
| 9 | Why Black men Go MGTOW/IBMOR Vol.6: Sad EndingThat was pure agony for me to watch. Just thinking of the 3 women ganging up manipulating that poor kid into a fatherhood that's not his, not just once but twice, is really more than I can take. I had to stop watching it because it was just too much. You can see how the little slut is nervous because she knew that there was a chance of this happening, but was hoping for the best... God, that poor kid... | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/17 11:32 AM |
| 2 | The next time a woman comes with "why aren't you married?"That's the spirit! Have an upvote, kind sir! | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/17 11:11 AM |
| 8 | MGTOW and Christianity? Is it possible or no.LOL I guess the bible would have been quite shorter if Adam went MGTOW... | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 07:01 PM |
| 6 | The Red Pill documentary continues to soar in sales, thanks to Feminists trying to censor itBut to be perfectly honest, her name will be forever bound to one of the most democratic and anti-censorship social mechanism that ever existed. I would feel honored. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/17 06:16 PM |
| 15 | If you look at the most recent Boko Haram news on Google. Not one article mentioned the boys being lit on fire and slaughtered but all of them included "girls" in the headline.You can't expect society to change overnight. I hope things will change, but it's been like this for quite some time and I think it will continue to be like this for yet another while. All we can do is to politely inform anyone who will be patient enough to simply listen to what we have to say: if they are decent human beings they will understand our views, even if they will not actively join the cause. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/17 05:52 PM |
| 4 | MGTOW and Christianity? Is it possible or no.You have to take into account the period in which most of the Christian doctrine was gathered. However do not fall into the trap of thinking that men were the only providers, that is a degeneration that only appears recently (correct me if I'm wrong). Back in those days the men worked as much as they could without killing themselves, while spending the rest of the time with the family, but the women helped the men whenever they could, meaning that when they weren't tending the fields with the me… | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 05:02 PM |
| 10 | "MGTOWs are incels" is not a valid argumentwhatever floats your boat. I'm happy and that's all I care. | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 03:53 PM |
| 47 | "MGTOWs are incels" is not a valid argumentHere it goes again. You are not passing the shit test. You are enabling it, and you're clearly not into MGTOW as you think you are. A MGTOW would say: think whatever you want and tell yourself whatever can float your boat, I'm happy as I am now and so I really don't care about anything else. | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 12:17 PM |
| 26 | MGTOW and Christianity? Is it possible or no.Dude are you kidding me? Christianity would be the first religion that, if followed strictly, would not only allow you to go MGTOW, but actively support the movement. Please allow me to elaborate. By Christian teachings, the most important purpose of every man and woman is to build a family, however every single person should dedicate him/herself to only one other person of the opposite sex for his/her entire life. This means that both should be virgin when they marry (that's the meaning of a wh… | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/17 11:35 AM |
| 1 | I need an outdoor hobby? Any ideas?Well, one of the most cheap and constructive hobbies is writing. Just go hiking around your place (shouldn't cost much and can be done in the weekends) and bring with you pen and paper. Once you find a place that inspires you, write a story with that place as background. Your imagination will be the limit and it will help you improve your language skills. | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 06:21 PM |
| 1 | I need an outdoor hobby? Any ideas?You could actually mix your interests and get into drone photography. Some drones are pretty cheap, but once you get into it, you can start customizing it and getting some pretty good shots or even videos while hiking around. | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Is there any limit to what a woman is entitled after marriage?You know, I was thinking the same. We all know that every rule has its exception, but in the case of women, from what I see the odds are lottery-like. There are marriages who work out there, don't get me wrong. But they are so rare that when they reach a notable goal (like for example 50 or 60 years) they're considerate quite the achievement, so much that usually they're reported in the news. | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 04:11 PM |
| 10 | Insecurity, pressure, depression, anxiety, no confidence. How to tackle this all?If you are really determined to be in peace with yourself (the rest will come naturally), you have to learn that you are the only one who can mold your own future. Try to reflect on these points: stop drinking: I know it's easy to cope with reality while drunk, but that's just because you're avoiding it. Your problems will not go away if you cover your heads with your pillow and try to ignore them. start working out: this may seems trivial or unimportant. It isn't. Your body is as important as y… | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Karl takes a hit with divorce settlementI always think that what is reported in the news is never the whole story. In this case I believe there's a lot more behind what's surfaced but one thing is for sure: he should have never married. | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 09:16 AM |
| 5 | 18 Y/O dude, going off to college soon. Would love some advice from fellow MGTOWJust one of the best single piece of general advice I've ever been given from my dad: "hope for the best and prepare for the worst". If you want to apply it to social interactions, just be friendly with everyone, even the ones you really dislike at first, but be prepared to be backstabbed and betrayed by everyone. It's ok to ask for favors every now and then, but never rely on them, try to be as independent as you can in every aspect of your life, and prepare to be alone when facing any adversit… | /r/MGTOW | 07/05/17 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Are you religious?I'm not religious. However that is not the reason why I think marriage is a farce. If it can help you, I think marriage (in its current form) is a farce because it currently is devoid of meaning. Allow me to elaborate: the wedding is, religiously speaking, the sacred ceremony when 2 people vow in front of God and everyone they care about that they're choosing each other as a partner to start and menage a family for the rest of their lives. Which is something very romantic and a really awesome th… | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/17 04:19 PM |
| 4 | Watching the very thing you're trying to avoid happen to someone close to you is painful..."caring for her kids" seems quite a contradiction if you deprive those kids of a loving and caring father, be it because you want him to earn more (and so let him basically slave away the whole week without any time to spend with the kids) or because you're preparing a divorce (and thus completely destroying the children chances to grow up in a healthy family environment). | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/17 01:12 PM |
| 8 | She is dumb enough to get creampied by an escort, wants to get bill footed the law says not here my dearGerman male escort's data hidden from paternity suit woman The hotel where they spent three nights in 2010, in the city of Halle, does not have to tell her the man's name, a court in Munich ruled. The man's right to privacy outweighed the woman's claim for child support payments from him, the ruling said. She knew him as "Michael" but three other Michaels were also at the hotel. Each of the four Michaels had a right to "control their own data and protect their own marriage and family", the rulin… | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/17 12:41 PM |
| 30 | Watching the very thing you're trying to avoid happen to someone close to you is painful...I may be biased, but to me it looks she's ready to file for divorce very soon: she's just waiting for your brother to buy the new house to serve him the papers. Think about it: she quit her job, so the difference in earnings is wider, entitling her to a much bigger alimony, she's nagging your brother for her own house while severing contacts with your family. I'll be honest: I'm maybe biased. But if it were me in your brother's shoes, I will never EVER buy a house while married with her (if she … | /r/MGTOW | 02/05/17 06:37 PM |
| 1 | A prime example of why all women and girls need to learn to never nag men. Most cases of domestic violence come from female nagging and control. Teach girls to not harass men to the point that men retaliate.Just putting this here because... reasons. On a more serious note, sometime these individuals are simply the product of a society imposing wrong rules. Most often than not a divorce is such a disaster for a man that, in materialistic terms, he's better off committing suicide, murder, or robbing a bank; and that's disgustingly unfair. | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/17 03:45 PM |
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