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Yeah, I've only experienced that in big cities. Part of the reason I don't visit overly populated places like NYC, Buffalo, Albany, etc, often. So you admit that your experience is not the experience of the vast majority of women who take public transit, as cities are the most densely populated areas, with the most crime, most poverty, and smallest sense of community, and the largest public transit networks that service the most amount of people. Its fair your experience is different, but equall…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:40 PM
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I would like to know where you live if you think public transit is a particularly enjoyable experience Women get cat called, harassed. Its deeply uncomfortable and induces a lot of anxiety. Keep in mind at 38 you will receive a lot less attention from men, so your experience would be considerably different than a woman in her prime 20's. Not to say you aren't beautiful just that younger women tend to be the victims of harassment more than older women. Since COVID especially homeless / drug addic…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:28 PM
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You dont understand what the test is because you have a small brain She doesn't want to get dropped off at the bust stop. She wants to be dropped off at her destination because public transit is not safe for women and makes them deeply uncomfortable. They get cat called, harassed, and it causes them a lot of anxiety. god you're dumb af.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:32 PM
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No the first one is testing to see if you care about her safety. Every girl i have dated has done this test. You drop her off at home or wherever she is going. Ive had girls say 'im surprised you took it' when handing me stuff, TWICE.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:38 PM
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"drop me off at the bus station" -> seeing if you say yes and fail "hold this" -> I think you should actually take it, shes seeing if you are a PUA these days. "here is all these details about my ex" -> see how you react and if you get jealous "<insert random insult>" -> seeing if you overreact "gets upset at you" -> sees if you run away and hide - testing for avoidance/open communication/conflcit resolution. Just give her a hug or set boundaries. Once you pass all her tests she will follow you …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:26 PM
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1 - no question. Men are biologically wired to ignore messes. They dont give a fuck. There are studies that show a mess is literally invisible to the male brain. Women walk into a messy room and their brain activity goes off the charts. Men don't care for makeup / prettying themselves. This is the biggest misconception and modern feminists have it all wrong. Beautification is the way women compete. Its an indirect form of competition that women partake in to show that they are better than other …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 01:04 PM
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Men get fat and let themselves go in LTRs. Women fatten them up in an effort to solidify their mate and end up losing interest without realizing. The red pill is love, the red pill is life. Never let yourself go gents. Focus on that body. Ravage her like the whore she is and she will never want to leave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 12:20 PM
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Because they want the dick, desire hot sex, and crave containment but never find it because all men are shit at it these days (they've been conditioned to be incapable of it), but try until they do anyway because their anxiety makes it impossible for them to stay alone. Just like men keep trying to find a girl who is a cook, a maid, a mother, and a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:58 AM
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New post. Very relevant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT6CYu8BRKc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:41 AM
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Men are victims of crime significantly more than women are. You are overstating how many men engage in these things because you watch too much news/media. You've literally been programmed to be scared, anxious, and avoidant about men (do you watch tik tok? have you considered that the chinese gov is pushing propaganda to tank the western birth rates and cripple their economies long term?). Think back to grade and middle school. Those boys were all fun, playful, and maybe a bit shit disturby at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:01 AM
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they're hard to please, so you learn what women like very quickly and then blow the virgins mind so much that she will never consider leaving you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:55 AM
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Correction, I am not defending him. I am open to the possibility he did not commit the crimes you accuse him of. There is a difference. Because I am rational and understand innocence until proven guilty because quite frankly the witch trials ended a long time ago. You have painted no holes in my arguments, you just feel you have through the use of manipulation and fallacies. I am not getting emotional through my messages. This is called the gender bias in written communication and I mentioned th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:34 PM
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Hard Pressed to believe Do you see the irony in what you just said. What makes you think he is being truthful in the first place. He runs a mans self improvement company called hustlers university. He plays a character and tries to come across as a player. I love your lack of accountability. Its classic. I'm just following your route. That is gaslighting and its not just a buzz word. You are trying to make it seem like you arent at fault here and its hilarious. Both you and I didn't respond to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:48 PM
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I totally understand why girls feel this way. When they did say no I did exactly what you said you prefer. I'd acknowledge that I understand meeting in person can be scary and I wouldn't want to ask her to do something that would make her uncomfortable. Then I would suggest a video call or phone call. I will say though that a woman going into a date fearful and anxious is very good for the guy though. That builds deep levels of attraction when you turn out OK. She feels the thrill and attributes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:20 PM
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Not my type of girls but nice job. I wont even kiss on the first date. And if she was all over me over the date i'd move on How did you escalate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:34 AM
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I found after getting fit and attractive I could match with a kiss emoji and ask a girl out after 5-6 msgs. I only got a no from younger women who I think were just more anxious about meeting someone online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:40 AM
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I think the demographic plays a bigger part than you think, especially as it pertains to this sub which will largely consist of people between the ages of 18-30. Those who are older than 30 and especially as they get to 40 dealt with a completely different dating landscape whereby people partnered up with who they knew. Now 41% of couples meet via online dating. And men who are getting to be 18 now have to participate in an environment which is quite a bit different
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:52 PM
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#equality for me not for thee
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:17 PM
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The men got raised by women or non masculine men and conditioned through school to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:17 PM
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? 31% of men are sexless as of 2018 aged 18-30
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:15 PM
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I think hes talking about still having that feminine spark that girls had when they were younger. Theyd giggle in groups when you walked by. They loved life. Hadn't been beaten down by the world. Its one of the qualities I think women tend to lose if they become really independent. Because they learn how hard the world is like men used to and become bitter and pessimistic about life & the world. Its one of the reasons men are drawn to younger women whom they can protect from all that garbage. Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:56 PM
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Theres ways to do that without bringing up physical violence. I wouldn't know. I don't know all of the details but from what I have seen & the nature of when he got arrested I am open to the idea that he is being targeted. He was already warned once and took the 'im too powerful for you to cancel me stance'. Now he lost 10M+ in assets and is in prison. And worst everyone rallies against him without any concrete proof just hearsay. #modernjustice Funny how you’re making it sound like its the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:40 PM
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vulnerability is hot af to the right girl. its how you emotionally connect with someone. I had a pretty hard past, so I like to bring it up. Its not an act. I am aware how attractive vulnerability is however, but it is who I am as well. Some girls see that as insecurity and run and I am completely content with that. I just filter out the women that do not have empathy or compassion. Just like women shit test men I shit test women. I have a really high paying career so its important to me that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:06 PM
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He's also selling a product and playing a character for his audience. Think a little. I will not stop saying don't be naive. You are older, you should know that men in power are often targeted by women. You aren't even aware of what the red pill teaches to know what Andrew tate says is good advice for men. You say par for the course but you have ignored most of what I have said as well. Do not play the victim here. You merely keep shifting the nature of the argument and I am humouring you. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:10 PM
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Critical thinking. The liberal NPC woman is honestly the most mentally exhausting person to be around. They are completely unaware of the programming. Empathy and compassion. I actively test women for this by showing a bit of insecurity on purpose. Most women fail this one actually (especially those liberal NPCs, because a man can't have a problem!!). Patience and understanding. If I make a mistake I want the opportunity to fix it. I don't want it held over my head. Rationality. If we disagree, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:57 PM
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Great job! 100lbs is a lot. Women are all positive body image. But when it comes to mate selection they aren't willing to ever date a man who is overweight. They will tell an overweight friend be yourself instead of 'you're overweight I would never consider you'. Agreed with all the metabolic issues. I was a big activist here on /r/keto from 2012 to 2015 - from 5000 subscribers to the millions? it probably has now. In all honesty my relentless push for keto has probably saved a ton of lives. I j…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:52 PM
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I do not assume Tate is innocent. In fact I believe in innocent until proven guilty which has been lost in modern society as we've regressed to pitchforks. Feminists love to reference the witch trials but when a man is the perpetrator they immediately jump to burn him at the stake. Do you not see the double standard here? Do not be naive. Men with power are easy targets. Tate has everything to lose and the women have everything to gain. I think underage people can be fake victims yes. I actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:36 PM
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I have not consumed Tates content. I do not support the tate. I just know that things are never black and white, and having seen clips following the aftermath and watching Alexanders take on Andrew Tates views I know some of what he says is good advice for men. I don't have a problem with you shitting on Andrew Tate, I have a problem with you disregarding good things he does say because you have a bias against him in general. Its shows a lack of critical thinking. Focusing on the bad he has done…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:05 PM
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You can think of it that way I guess. But the way I see it is after getting an engineering degree and a job in tech that pays multi six figures sitting on a computer writing code I gained a few lbs. I also am a huge cook, more like a chef which never helped the situtation. Yet "looks dont matter" is the advice, lmao. We need to tell fat people they are fat as fuck and need to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:50 PM
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day. A lot of what he says is misogynistic bs, not to mention he’s a trafficker. Thats a bit of an NPC response. He can say some dumb shit but also speak truth. They aren't mutually exclusive and being wrong about something else doesn't mean the correct things he says are wrong. Also being a trafficker is a bit of a stretch. He was arrested for getting ADULT women he was dating to do amateur pornography. These were women who were adults, making their own deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:46 AM
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When she doesn't want to jump your dick every other evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:56 AM
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Then why do women all complain all men want is sex, but only date men in the top 5-15% who got fit and muscular with the sole intent of sleeping with women? You aren't even aware of how deep this runs. I watched as every one of my friends got fit and musculuar to fuck women in their 20s. That is the only reason men go to the gym and if you think otherwise you are delusional. Open your eyes to how fake people are. Wake up lmao. The fact is a man you know and trust would never admit this to you, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:04 PM
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I think tate is right about a lot of things. Alexander grace has a video series he recently posted about Tates own positions and how that lines up with the red pill if you are interested. So many men confuse this I notice. Do you want to know why? Because men and women speak differently. Men are forced to switch to indirect communication styles and active listening when speaking to women, and women are blind to the fact that men have to accommodate them. And a lot of men are blissfully unaware o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:47 PM
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What do you mean I am not grasping what you are saying. I have completely acknowledged everything you have said as relevant, however I have elaborated and tied that back to my own discussion on TRP. Me refusing to concede does not mean I am not hearing you. Read my comments again, I agreed with what you said and expanded on it. It is in fact your refusal to see how it all connects that is the issue here. And this is proven by what you said with the following: You aren’t gonna tell me you’re a Ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:06 PM
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Are you selectively choosing what to respond to? My goal is to give you understanding of TRP and why it works so I really hope you read that and understand that. Agreed with those things. Yes online dating is not good to meet women, and yes men should go where women are. Consider this though: Yes there are other ways like going to where women are, but that does not change the fact that TRP is effective and works. Because TRP + the things you say is double as effective. Not only are you meeting m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:20 PM
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Why isn't it a fair study. Sure it doesn't say women are more shallow then men. But what I think we just mutually agreed on is that it is harder for men. This goes into my next point, which is what the red pill teaches and why it matters in this context. If it is harder for men to stand out in this current dating landscape, and they cannot change their looks (either they've done what they can, aren't socially aware of how important they are, have been gaslight into believing be yourself, dont ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:41 PM
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I said its fair I did not agree to disregard it. We can disagree about that graph. So I am justifying why that graph is the way it is. You are so close to coming to the conclusion that the graph is legitimate. You put it in your own words that women have to filter through a lot of men. You now just said women instinctively choose men based off genetics. Then how big of a stretch is it to believe the tinder data?! Everything you just said in the last two posts contributes to reasons why that grap…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:10 PM
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Yes I agree supply and demand plays a role and probably a big one. Women are flooded with options and have no choice to filter out men based off superficial things. So then I ask you - if women have more options and are forced to be more selective, then can you not argue that looks are more important for men than women because as a man you have to compete with other men to get selected? So It may be true that men and women are just as shallow - but due to dating dynamics and demographics men hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:47 PM
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I have a thought experiment for you So if men and women are just as shallow But women are more picky. What is the difference between being shallow and being picky Why do you think men swipe right 60% of the time and women <5% of the time. Is it because men have no standards, women have too high of standards, a mix. Or perhaps is it that men are more open to getting to know a larger pool of women because they are less likely to say yes or no based off superficial things (shallowness). How does ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:28 PM
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Thats the response I was expecting. I was just pointing out its hypocritical. Ligten up Kate, i'm not attacking you for your views, they're expected. I just found it funny and am teasing you. Its fair that you don't accept the source as legitimate but I do think you should humor it and keep an open mind in the future. Women aren't nice. Did you know women look at other womens tits just as if not more often as men do?! They dont get in trouble for it though nor caught for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:12 PM
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A debate is a discussion. "anyone with a brain", "completely void" feels like you are arguing in bad faith. Then you link "datingzest.com" as a source after throwing away data actually published and sourced from the apps themselves. If you want to argue with legitimate sources I think you need to think a little critically here. The data you are claiming as fact is self reported btw, it says a survey. Women virtue signal more than men in self reported surveys LOL. You just don't want to be wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:04 PM
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Its called a discussion, why does it have to be agreement and disagreement. I agree men and women are shallow, but also proposed women are less realistic when it comes to online dating preferences. I provided data backing it up which you rejected the source of. So I provided a study that looked at female behavior and found that looks are a dealbreaker before any other trait is considered. So I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing, I am talking about a mutual topic and providing you with the tools…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:07 AM
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It says reddit because I posted it from a reddit thread on /r/BlackPillScience/ which will have hundreds of peer reviewed studies for your perusal How about a similar study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590291120300784#sec4 The results confirmed our first hypothesis and were in line with other literature reporting that physical appearance tends to be the most important factor when considering a partner for a short-term relationship. However, we did find that even for short-…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:36 PM
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thats published in a book actually and is completely reliable. Its in a data science book in fact that looks at human preferences from big data analysis. Can't hide from big data! Specifically that is from tinder and is completely accurate. You can choose to ignore it if you like, but all you are doing is lying to yourself and others. Here you go: Rudder, C. (2015). Dataclysm: Who we are (when we think no one's looking). Fourth Estate. In my personal experience I spent 2.5 years across 3 dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:55 PM
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Almost all of it to be honest. Be a rock, don't share your feelings, set strong boundaries, provide emotional support, facilitate action by being a leader, don't listen to what women say watch what they do, make decisions, plan things out, be her brother and her father and her lover. TRP is basically a guide to providing containment for a feminine woman. It gives you all the tools to allow her to enter her natural feminine energy so that she can be kind, compassionate, caring rather then stresse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:06 PM
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It implies you can be better than you are now. It is the burden placed on men whether our society likes to accept it or not. Men who stagnate are looked down on. For instance - men who play video games into their later 20s. Its seen as a waste of time despite it being a highly social activity. Some women who spend their evenings watching trashy reality TV won't even consider men who spend an hour or two playing video games with their oldest friends. Its about constant improvement and growth mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:58 PM
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What opened my eyes was how people interacted with me in the super market. Instead of women seeing me and basically running i'd get eye fucked. Everyone would go out of their way to get out of my way. I had cashiers accidentally touch my hand when handing me a receipt. I got asked out twice by employees at registers. People apologize to me profusely for the most minor inconvenience. I smile at a woman and she beams back like I just made her day rather than visible disgust. Yeah being fat, never …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:47 PM
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\2. Studies show that marriage happiness suffers greatly depending on the # of partners a woman has had. Going from 80% happiness at 1-3 partners to 30% happiness at 20+. For every partner a woman has the woman is less likely to be fulfilled by an average man. The more partners she has the more the marriage being long lasting comes down to a coin flip. At my age I am not willing to risk my future on a coin flip. So from the data I would always pick #2. Also her having an amazing sex partner woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:36 PM
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This is where you employ the reverse cat fish and get her anxious you will leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:28 PM
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That sounds like a red pill view...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:27 PM
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One interesting thing about this is the statistics show 20% of women are like you and 80% of women are more conservative and favor traditional gender roles / masculine and feminine dynamics. In exchange, he is passive, laid back, a follower, a receiver, soft, nurturing, more emotional, less money, accepting, etc. The thing is, we raise most men to be like the man you describe. Due to the law of polarity those men are compatible with you, and the minority of the 20% of women who are like you. Unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:18 PM
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This is no different for women either. In fact the dating app stats say men are more forgiving https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Men message women linearly with their attractiveness. Women will not consider any man below like the 80th percentile. And more arguably even the 90th percentile. People are just shallow in general. Get fit and attractive or die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:14 PM
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There are many studies that looked at physical attraction from in person interactions too. Yes usually you pair up with people you know as you gain attraction by seeing people frequently. However the world is moving away from that and quickly. You cannot disregard that dating has changed and isn't how it you think it is anymore. Your experience is no longer valid. Also apps != online services like matchmaking.com, okcupid, elitesingles.... list goes on and on. You are making the distinction apps…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:27 PM
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Does your wife hate deciding where to go for dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:40 PM
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Testosterone is also the hormone that makes men protective as well as violent. It makes them stand up for their beliefs. Its a double edged sword. Testosterone wielded by a healthy man is what makes him caring and nurturing, and an unhealthy man dangerous. Instead of supporting these men we do the opposite so its no surprise it makes them violent. I think you confuse talking about their experience as whining. The male struggle is completely valid, even if simps like to side with women in a sad a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:15 PM
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It also says 'some', not 'all' the degree isn't stated. So your entire argument relies on the assumption that 'some' is a large portion. You are making just as big of an assumption as I am so do not try to argue you are right here. We both don't know. However I have my experience to draw on which tells me it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:11 PM
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Men are victims of crime more then women are though. So your statistic is pointless. Men commit more crime because men have more issues in our society. They have worse mental health and less support. And then they are treated like shit instead of supported. I also don't agree with that 98% statistic because I personally was sexually assaulted by a teenage woman. I'd never bring it up though. Men do not report sexual assault because its so stigmatized and men cannot be raped. stating objective fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:06 PM
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Society simps for women and allows women to for instance, shame men openly but men cannot shame women openly. It enables double standards because women are a protected class and men are not. Men are considered womens predators and thus there is this stigma that women are virtuous and the man is not. Its the same reason why in domestic cases men face harsher punishments. Men are assumed to be the perpetrator. Testosterone makes men protective of women and weak men cannot see past their bias to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:57 PM
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If you do not believe the red pill I do not think you have ever interacted or been in a relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:53 PM
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Its actually not design by nature. Because normally a man is physically stronger and the women would be fearful. But women are protected by simps in our society and their privilege is allowed to run unchecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:51 PM
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https://qz.com/1546677/around-40-of-us-couples-now-first-meet-online 40% in the US. And counting. Both count and they are interconnected. You cannot disregard either. The fact is though looks do matter in person and in online dating. Just online dating makes it really obvious for the reasons I specified (no fear of retaliation, no fear of being judged by friends, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:49 PM
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I am not delicate. Again you are being manipulative. You are trying to disregard what I said by telling me I am offended. I am not. In fact I do not care what you believe nor do I care if you insult me. https://youtu.be/b_NAPMU4GJU?t=496 If you were to watch the video you would see thats there too. You feel I am offended so you feel you are right. Watch the video, its pretty enlightening. I think your jaw would drop a bit. As a man I learned the red pill is facts through experience. I actively w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:25 PM
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40% of relationships are started from online dating. And rising. You cannot disregard 40% of relationships on the basis that its not real life. This is going to become a bigger and bigger problem and you coming here and rejecting it does not do anyone any favours. I can ask you the same question - why do you focus on real world couples but ignore 40% of couples who met through online dating. The fact is dating app data shows female dating preferences without a couple things. In its most raw form…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:20 PM
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The funny thing is the red pill teaches men how women like to manipulate in arguments too. I think in those 3 sentences you hit like 4 of the ways women manipulate by refusing to engage in a rational discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_NAPMU4GJU& watch that then go re-read our little discussion. Then tell me how it is a cult. You literally proved the red pill (women prefer men who are not fat - its an insult to me because i had just told you i was fat, you changed the argument to be ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:00 PM
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Read of boys and men. You are just out of touch. What scam are you talking about again? The red pill teaches men what is expected of them by women. The black pill teaches men that sexual attraction gets your foot in the door. Without both I wouldn't be where I am. It's not a scam. The hilarious thing is that I can ask my uncle or my father about red pill topics about female psychology and they can put it in their own words and via their experiences. Its not a scam, its just facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:52 PM
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Those men cheat because they failed to follow the red pill. The red pill teaches men that sexless marriages are bad. It teaches men to set healthy boundaries in regards to expectations of sex in a marriage. A woman who holds sex hostage is being manipulative and a red piller man would openly communicate that to his partner, that she is being manipulative, and expect that if she wants the relationship to work that she engages in sex. He would ask for the opportunity to discuss what is bothering h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:45 PM
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Its also a very small part of what I said. Is it really that important of a distinction My experience was that women wanted no intimacy at all until I got attractive. And once I did that's all they wanted. It was a complete shift in how they interacted with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:35 PM
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There is a difference between being a leader and being dominating. The red pill tells the man to act like a facilitator, not judge jury and executioner. Divorce is likely when a woman is the breadwinner because she is dating down and eventually her hypergamy wins over. She realizes she is higher value than her partner and thus feels he is not good enough for her and so she finds someone who is (on paper).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:33 PM
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Intimacy = into me see. Speaking about deep topics is emotional cheating and is 100% taboo between genders. same gender-same gender is different and is OK. I don't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:19 PM
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She is actively seeking men who focused on their looks, and fitness with the sole intent of sleeping with women. Its no surprise that those men just want to fuck around and not want to settle down. She is actively choosing to date men who are her predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:18 PM
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Its not 60th, the data shows its closer to 90th. https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Women have a mate value too and that corresponds to a "mate dollar budget". If you don't have the money to spend, you can't reach the attractiveness threshold. Or put simply: if you are not an attractive woman, you are not going to filter out unattractive men as longterm partners, because that would leave you with zero options. It would, unless there was a steady stream of attractive men that they had access to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:14 PM
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Specifically you are attributing what someone like Andrew Tate says to what the red pill teaches. Sure, some of what someone like Andrew Tate speaks about comes from the red pill, but that doesn't mean he is a red piller. If you want a more objective fact based representation of the red pill backed by evolutionary psychology look to someone like Alexander Grace. The red pill teaches men to be stoic and how to be a man that women are attracted to, not be misogynistic dominating ass holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:09 PM
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There is a big difference between toxic masculinity and the red pill. Your whole post is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:02 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590291120300784#sec4 The results confirmed our first hypothesis and were in line with other literature reporting that physical appearance tends to be the most important factor when considering a partner for a short-term relationship. However, we did find that even for short-term relationships, warmth, intelligence, and income were also influential, albeit with less strength than looks, if partial effect size is considered. However, in stark con…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:49 PM
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Not in my experience. You are free to feel how you feel, but I lived it. So I just think you are ignorant to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:47 PM
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I have not. From my personal experience I was on dating apps for 2.5 years without even getting a conversation with a woman. I just got ghosted after 1-3 messages repeatedly. I lost 40 lb, got msucular, and within two weeks of updating my photos had 5 dates scheduled and got asked out twice (yes, asked out, as a man). My experience tells me looks are the only thing that matters. I was very realistic and tried seeking women my weight, as well as women a lot larger. The thing is, the data does not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:40 PM
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I did suggest what they can do differently. They need to start acknowledging that men experience life differently then they do and that acknowledge that they lack the self awareness to see how their success in the world has come at the cost of many mens suffering. You want to speak in absolutes and put words into my mouth and say 'not a mans fault'. Meanwhile I acknowledged that both men and women are fat for similar reasons. Men and women are bitter for different reasons. What do you mean I do …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:34 PM
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Lol thats such a cop out of this discussion. We know that both men and women have an issue with how things are. I personally don't have a solution, but I suggested women opt to raise a man up. Who knows, they might find that man would go to the ends of the earth for her for doing so. But raising a man up takes self awareness, accountability, and effort, which we all know modern women hate due to their entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:24 PM
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Content is the proper word to describe how I felt about it. Once i learned the rules of the game why would I be mad about having to play it?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:09 PM
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Yes I have every right to reject overweight women for being overweight, as all women rejected me for being overweight. Its petty but people are petty and thats OK. It's human nature and I'm not some saint nor do I want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:07 PM
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No, I am saying that both have the same cause and because I went out of my way to overcome mine (ALONE I might add) I see someone who did not as below my standards. I didn't have the luxury of bringing home a chad to validate myself and keep me stuck in my ways. I learned the hard way through crippling loneliness until I did something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:04 PM
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I'm not sure, but acknowledging men's issues instead of stepping on them with your feminist boot is a good place to start the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:03 PM
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I am not upset at all actually. I am completetly content with how things are. I actively worked on myself in my 20s by getting an extremely high paying career in tech because I knew about female hypergamy at 22. I lost weight, got fit, got muscular because I understood the importance of sexual attraction in a relationship. I learned about attachment styles, psychology to identify insecurity and evaluate women. I am completely content with how things are and have spent years working on myself to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:57 PM
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That's what you think now. But a struggling modern man is a future struggling older woman. You lack the critical thinking to see how this becomes a big issue long term because you are so short sighted. Tick tock.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:50 PM
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How so? I'm not going around sleeping with attractive women for validation. If she had standards no fat guys I can have standards no insecure run through fat chicks. Its called equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:47 PM
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Yes, mentally healthy women do, because all women do: https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Basically if you aren't attractive you aren't worth speaking to as far as women are concerned. As a male who is not attractive you are treated like you do not exist. Just like as women age they are treated like they do not exist. Sorry but your views of your own behaviours and the behaviours of other women do not line up with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:43 PM
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Its not settling its a complete refusal to raise a man up to her level. Men are expected to provide support and care for their partners. Women feel no such need. Its the entitlement. Women have been granted so much priviledge and they are blind to it and the struggles of a modern man. The reason men are struggling isn't because they aren't good enough its that they haven't been given the same opportunities and support as the women have. At the end of the day a refusal to raise men up among women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:40 PM
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And I said im just chatting. idk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:38 PM
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Read the book of boys and men. Its a really good read and I highly recommend it. https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg This is why men are lonely. Thats app data from tinder. You will never understand the male experience and worse you reject it because it doesn't conform to your view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:36 PM
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She isn't manly though. Shes incredibly feminine. She just has a manly exterior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:35 PM
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thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:32 PM
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Yes, those 51% of men living in lonliness are entitled while an estimated 20% of women are in polyamorous relationships without even knowing it. The delusion of modern women is palpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:31 PM
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I don't see how staying single and getting repeatedly pumped and dumped by a guy who doesn't give a fuck about you adds anything to your life. To me it sounds like that just kills your ability to pair bond and live happily in a fulfilling long term partnership. But I suppose ignorance is bliss. You have no idea what these men could add to your life because you wont consider them as you chase playboys and PUA's.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:30 PM
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No its a play to invoke empathy and compassion for those beneath you who are struggling. Because its possible that one day you will be struggling and will want compassion and empathy yourself. I guarantee you that you will have a much happier life by raising a good man up who is struggling. Instead you respond to struggling men with resentment and disgust. You kick them down when they are at the bottom. Its the same reason you will probably die alone and afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:26 PM
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idk really im just chatting. I'll come back to it I hadnt had my coffee yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:24 PM
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Thats because men learn early on by crippling loneliness to be better and humble. Women go through life filled with entitlement and get bitter and resentful as they age. Men drop older women because they just aren't fun to be around any more and quite frankly can date younger women who still have that spark in their eye. These are the same men you are shaming now just because they are struggling. Do you honestly think those men want YOU in 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:23 PM
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Not what I said. It matters equally for both men and women and is well documented in psychology. There is nothing disgusting about it, its a fact of human nature. The halo effect is real and you seem to have a pretty big halo. When your halo fades you will know and you will reflect on what I said. However it will be too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:19 PM
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You think this way because you do not understand how peoples perception of you dictates how they treat you. For instance you right now are treating men as less than you. When those men were simply struggling. You will be in their position once you hit the wall and will feel the loneliness they felt. People will stop smiling at you, treating you nicely, start ignoring you, brush off what you say, show no interest. You will feel invisible. So agreed, it has nothing to do with a relationship. Every…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:14 PM
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When you hit the wall and no longer get any attention you will feel differently hun. There is a reason older women tell younger women to find a partner and settle down. They've seen what crippling loneliness does after you have lived a life of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:56 PM
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Its her fault for lacking the self awareness to identify that she was dating above her league going for skinny men. In my experience fat women are the most insecure women I have ever met. I have the strongest feeling that they have been pumped and dumped more times than any other women because by being overweight they are more likely to seek validation in the form of attracting hot males. Thus give themselves more freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:55 PM
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Sure, we don't have to debate that. Women just blame modern men for the actions of their predecessors because they lack awareness and critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:52 PM
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Because men being lonely now will only result in the same amount of women being lonely in the future. As men have post nut clarity women have post wall clarity, and the wall is undefeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:50 PM
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That is not true. You don't understand inherited family trauma. If someone is overweight their parents failed to teach them how being overweight would affect them. Its likely their eating habits were conditioned by their parents. Its actually NOT their fault. Its their responsibility to fix it, but they need to be told the truth that being overweight is a dealbreaker for 99.9% of women. Except we tell these men to be themselves and sugarcoat it. These men need to be told they are fat as fuck and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:48 PM
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The average man has 2 partners by the age of 35. Contrary to what feminists like to believe most men are disgusted by promiscuity among women AND men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:44 PM
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Yes you have every priviledge in the world and are unable to see how that has led to your success. Meanwhile the average male did not have that support and is struggling. Your response to that is to 'be better' without remorse after riding the coattails of men your whole life. And the response most women have to mens issues is to cancel them. Thus these struggling men are not heard, have no support, and continue to struggle. Read the book 'Of boys and men', your entitlement is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:41 PM
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I'm not mad. Please do not project your own mental state into the words I wrote. Get mental health help. I am not being a victim. I am sharing my experience which is legitimate and unique to me. Do not assume I did not go for overweight women. I was very realistic with what I could attract. The thing is I found that overweight women also did not show interest or reciprocate any attention. For years. Thus i have a rule no fat chicks. Because when I was in their league they went for a skinny guy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:36 PM
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Sure ill dm them later. Its a pita to dig through.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:33 PM
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That might be true. It isn't for me though so perhaps I am projecting my own bias of my own personality and experience. But can you blame them - It takes a spectacular person to come out of years of loneliness and not be bitter and resentful. Women have made most men this way with their dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:32 PM
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How good of friends are you really?! Have you ever had any emotional intimacy with these women, have they gone out of their way to get to know YOU. Or do they just allow your presence. When you finally meet a woman who is interested in YOU you will know, because she will want to know everything about you. When you become attractive you will find that a lot of women start asking about YOU. When I reflected on my 'friendships' with women I realized how thin and vapid those friendships were. As soo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:22 PM
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They do. Do you want to see my text messages with several of my female friends who I have extensively argued about this with? I think those ugly men do have better personalities because by being ugly they are more likely to be empathetic and understanding towards others. They've felt what it is like on the other side. Its the same argument as to why women cannot be empathetic towards mens issues. They haven't experienced them so can never understand. A less attractive man knows what it feels lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:15 PM
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And then we as a society step on, humiliate, and shame incels who have no social skills when they've been ostracised for being ugly or being different their whole lives. Completely devoid of any and all female interaction for their existence and we blame them for not being socially calibrated with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:10 PM
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And yet they tell men looks dont matter. I agree with the black pill whole heartedly. You don't need to give me ...'s But women do this to themselves. Because men who focus on their looks did so to sleep with women, but then women go and only date men who looks max. I am 100% confident these women would be much happier dating one of those less attractive men and working with them on their looks because personality wise those men are probably better men. Except now those men are so inexperienced,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:05 PM
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As a man who works in tech, I was ~40 lb overweight and I spent 2.5 years on dating apps without even getting a conversation lasting more than 3 messages. I lost 40lb and had 5 dates scheduled within two weeks and got asked out twice. Women are just actively selecting their own predators. They go for men who looks max with the intent to sleep with women and shocker those men turn out to be predators. They then pass that insecurity onto all the other men they date and leave someone like me to cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:57 PM
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I agree with you. I think both men and women do this unconsciously. Though I think you are ignoring the law of polarity here. A party influencer type might be perfect for a girl into stem because the stem girl will likely see that outgoing adventurous party type as better and find that deeply attractive. Meanwhile the party guy might see her intelligence as better than him. They compliment each other due to polarity with each providing what the other isnt. Regarding being ugly or whatever unfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:55 PM
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I think this comes down to the law of polarity. David Deida summarises this in his book Intimate Communion really well. When partnering people always tend to look for what they are not. A very feminine woman is looking for a man to take her on a roller coaster of excitement, while providing security both financial and personal. She wants to feel safe and contained. She does this by finding a partner who fulfills both the father and brother family dynamic she had as a kid. You can remove woman an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:35 PM
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I've asked a few of my female friends this and got some interesting answers here. They all agreed that they liked and were attracted to all of their male friends. This actually hits a red pill topic which is that women will only interact with people they are attracted to. They aren't even aware of it. If you are overweight and a girl has never messaged you on facebook or gone out of her way to get to know you (connect with you) you simply aren't attractive. She's not going to invest time or ener…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:28 PM
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Its called the wall and it is undefeated. Women will watch as their image fades and men begin ignoring them. As those men who got ignored hit their peaks in their early 30s and can choose to just date younger women who didn't ignore them and are closer to them in terms of relationship experience. Why would a 30 year old man in the prime of his career settle for a post wall woman with god knows how much baggage from getting pumped and dumped, basically a coil flip on marriage happiness due to man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:26 PM
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No because as soon as they feel the crippling lonliness all the simpy men will do something about it in an attempt to get laid. Its like "oh you ignored me for 30 years, don't worry honey i'll come rescue you!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:23 PM
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rudeness, aggression, bossiness, being overly independent, being mean-spirited, and picking fights for no reason. Wait wait wait, where in the manosphere is this considered masculine?! This is not masculinity in the red pill. This is like andrew tate masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:21 PM
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https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Its easier for ugly women then ugly men, by a long shot. That graph is from tinder data. As a 45lb overweight male I didn't even get a conversation with a girl lasting more than 3msgs over 2.5 years across bumble, hinge, and tinder. I just got ghosted repeatedly. Updated photos after losing weight and lol lets just say the black pill is just facts. IF you look at that graph look at the type of guys girls actually message - that top 10th percentile mostly. Are …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:17 PM
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"I'm just gonna stop dating men because I can open up tinder and fuck a chad". A chad who repeatedly disappoints her and gives her the wrong impression of how men behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:15 PM
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I actually think the red pill takes women off the pedestal for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:09 PM
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You don't work to be high value to be high value in a womans eyes. You work on being high value for yourself. Women are just a bonus. I think people need to improve themselves for more intrinsic reasons or even other extrinsic reasons. Whether it be getting fit, taking care of their diet, skin and general health, whether it be advancing in their careers. Exactly my point. If you give up on doing these things and just go your own way you aren't doing this and I see that as weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:06 PM
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That sounds really hard. There is a book called 'of boys and men' which details why modern men like him are struggling. Sure he played a lot of video games and that is on him but how he got to that point is actually deeply rooted in the loss of good male role models during childhood. His father failed to teach him what being a man means and this is all inhertied family trauma (there's a goood book called it didn't start with you). We aren't giving young men the tools they need to navigate the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:06 AM
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I see it as weakness because I went on the journey to become high value and so I see the men who do MGTOW as weak. Its not a journey for the faint of heart but its a journey I expect a man to undertake for me to consider them a man. Society expects more from men and that's OK. Be a man then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:47 AM
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IMO going alone is just giving up. I see it as weakness for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:29 AM
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Part of red pill teaching is that men take what they get and women choose. Its just how it works. Only really high value men have the opportunity to chose. And they take advantage of that. Hence why so many women get pumped and dumped by chad. Because most women are not high value and chad knows that. you're speaking to the choir here though m8, I make multi 6 figures, got fit attractive, had to remove my employer from my profile and deeply vet women. Just from the statistics most men do not hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:15 AM
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https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg I don't think most men have a choice. When I become muscular, fit, i was able to start filtering women for insecure attachments and other frivolous things. Until I did so (was a 3 year journey) I basically never even got a date. Men cast a wide net and take what they can get. But yes I agree men should have higher standards. They aren't in a position to unless they are in that 5-10%, which is why those men can pump and dump so many women. Because they're all d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:41 AM
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Read the book attached. You will have a great laugh with online dating from then on. Almost every younger girl has a strong anxious attachment. By ~30 you get the avoidants and anxious avoidants women. The trauma sets in and they follow the book like clockwork. Its a good way to filter out really insecure women, if you get to the point where you are able to be choosy at least (looks only matters here)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:05 AM
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Ugh talking to my female friends about my issues was the worst. They all treated me like shit and ignored me and pushed me out of their life. The worst is you go online or speak to female friends about these male issues, get cancel cultured, treated like shit, called a sexist or mysogynist, spat on, stepped on. Like your reaction to your friend. Rather than support him you look down on him. When his experience is legitimate and unique to him and you can never understand. You use your previous ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:12 AM
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https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg This is published in a data science book, and is from tinder. This is where it is coming from. Men will message women linearly with their attractiveness. Women will not even consider or treat a man below the ~90th percentile as a prospect. To the point they won't even message them at all. This was my lived experience. From the data it is estimated that 20% of women are in polyamorous relationships without knowing it. Because all they do is date pick up artists…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:53 PM
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I dont know what experiences you have had with incels but having gone through software to work in tech probably a good chunk of the people I graduated with are still virgins. In my experience they were all good natured fun loving guys. They just didn't want to get fit, get muscular, go to the gym to fuck women like all the gym bros did in their 20s. I know at least 10 people from my class that still don't have a girlfriend and haven't since they started uni. I graduated 5 years ago. They're just…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:27 PM
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It doesn't matter what you believe, this is a published in a data science book and is from tinder: https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Personally i spent 2.5 years on dating apps getting ghosted after 1-3 messages repeatedly. I lost weight and got fit and got asked out twice within two weeeks of updating my photos. I had 5 dates scheduled in two weeks. The next two weeks I had another 3 dates. The issue is people like you cancel culture facts because you feel differently. You should be ashamed o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:15 PM
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I know exactly what its like to be terrified to sleep in your own bed at night. I know exactly how you feel. I know the world is big and scary. That everywhere you go you feel threatened. That men cat call you in public, men take advantage of you. Thats why I spent all that time grinding. All so that I could hold one girl until she falls asleep safe and comfortable. Save one girl from this atrocious world. That is the burden men face, and women will NEVER understand that. Its what testosterone m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:54 PM
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It is actually. The average is indeed 2 partners. Thats how averages work. 51% of men 18-30 are single right now. 30% of women. How does that work? because they all date chad and fuck chad. 80% of men don't even get messaged on a dating app let alone go on dates to even get the opportunity to escalate to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:31 PM
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Hehe its nothing tbh. Thats just the tip of the iceberg. If you want to know frustration - I spent 2.5 years on dating apps without even getting a conversation lasting more than 3 messages. I found out after 2.5 years it was because I was overweight and that was it. Just got ghosted repeatedly over and over and over for 2.5 years. Fun. Instead of getting bitter I accepted it and worked on myself. meanwhile my friends who were women said looks dont matter, be yourself, blah. I got pilled, lost we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:29 PM
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Yeah its hard. But that is YOUR shit to deal with. With your therapist. You don't heal in a relationship, you heal out of one. The issue is women are so fucking blind to their own damage and then throw it all on the men they date to deal with and navigate. Its annoying af. I went through a lot of trauma as a kid (child abuse, several dead family and friends). I learned to deal with it. I had no support or help because I was a man. Now I have to pick up and heal all these damaged women and its an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:39 PM
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I do understand what it is. But ladies who watched a single tik tok or read a single FDS post about love bombing don't. If a guy is genuinely interested he should want to text you spend time with you double text you want to see you often. But that comes across as needy and insecure or being too attached too early. That is your initial impression when you like someone. You want to do more with them! But ladies are used to this stereotypical alpha guy who ignores them and treats them like shit so …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:49 PM
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now if you are only doing these things to get sex and sex is your only end game with her I can see why it would be a turn off and she would stop seeing you the average man has 2 partners by 35. The average man doesn't want this. Women date chad, get pumped and dumped, then pass that insecurity off to every next man they date. As a man you walk on egg shells because every girl has different levels of insecurity regarding sex and intimacy. As someone very familiar with insecure attachment styles i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:45 PM
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I do not blame women at all for anything. You are projecting your blame of men onto what I say as I am blaming women. I understand the way things are and that it is my responsibility to a) learn the way things are b) accept the way things are c) do whatever I can to overcome the way things are. That is the red pill. You seem to assume I blame women or dislike women when that is not true. You are projecting your own thoughts onto the things I say. Or because you are pissed at men you think I am p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:56 PM
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Having spent like hundreds and hundreds of hours learning about psychology, anxious attachments, projection, manipulation, how the brain works I can confidently say the red pill is facts. Not the mysogynistic toxic masculinity red pill, the red pill presented as it is with support from evolutionary psychology. I think a lot of people confuse what the red pill is as its also used to promote toxic shit like what andrew tate spews. Thats not what the red pill is. The red pill purely describes femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:44 PM
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For whatever reason women have decided that a man showing interest is needy and insecure. Because they are so scared of mens motivations they see open interest as 'love bombing' or an attempt to seduce / get laid. Because they are so damaged by chad they project that insecurity onto all men. So yes romance is dead. In my experience I have only been rejected when I have bought flowers. The girl feels like she is being bought. Same if I go out to a nice place for a date, despite being really well …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:21 PM
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No they are not. Google it lmfao I am up front with my intentions and interest. If it is not reciprocated I take a step back and move on. Chasing is different and is desperate, clingy, needy, and sets off creep alarm bells. Pursuing is confident and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:54 PM
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Thats why I don't chase actually. I pursue and if she doesn't reciprocate I fuck off till she does. I'll match her energy and escalate and thats it. I just know it is exhausting because I used to be needy and chase. I confused playing hard to get with being not interested. If it wasnt for TRP I would still be needy and chase and getting exhausted. So i'm not surprised why men are this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:37 PM
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Its hard to explain what a decade of loneliness does to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:37 PM
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You learned the black pill goes both ways. Men are looks based but so are women. The reason why men love the black pill so much is that women always say looks dont matter. But then as a man you come to a point when you accept the black pill and suddenly your entire life experience changes in regards to female attention. Meanwhile an overweight woman can go on a dating app and still get a steady stream of fit ish men showing interest. Not so true for an overweight man. Men are salty about this be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:35 PM
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Its 35% women on hinge and 32% women on bumble. And yes I agree, depending on the age though. Younger women are still finding their chads. Older women have 8-10 people they can just dial up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:31 PM
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I find that as a man whenever I bring up a mans issue, women automatically treat it like its an attack on women and either downplay, flip the script to be about womens rights, or shame me for bringing up a mans issue. Honestly its exhausting because it really highlights just how entitled women in our society has become. They're so blinded by the patriarchy that they cannot stop, have critical thinking, and see that men also struggle in a lot of ways that are unique to men. It highlights a TRP te…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:28 PM
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elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:25 PM
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Its because chasing bitches is exhausting and men have every right to complain about it. All this talk about #equality but men are still expected to make all the moves and do all the pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:24 PM
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The funny thing about TRP - is that I can take any red pill concept and ask my dad or uncle (who has no fucking idea about the red pill) and they will echo it in their own experience. Its not a cult. Its literally just a fact of our existence. As a man when you get experience and pilled, it just validates what you already know to be true deep down. It just puts your experience into words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:22 PM
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I think a lot of people take posts in this sub as anger when its just venting at actual experiences that are legitimate and valid. But because it goes against the narrative it is interpreted as anger or hatred towards women. TRP teaches you that this is how it is and this is how women are and to deal with it and accept it. Part of accepting it is acknowledging it and raising it. Basically people project how they feel about people who follow the red pill by taking what they say about red pill top…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:28 PM
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They all have deep social anxiety from years of media reports of a murder that happened once 10 years ago at a train station nearby or a hearing about a rape case in some true crime documentary. So they just stay at home and talk to their 3-4 friends that they managed to hold on to. Then go on apps and get chad to come over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:21 PM
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K and that doesn't matter, because its also how women compete with each other and this is well documented in psychology. Ladies lack any and all accountability lmao. Just blame men is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:15 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ and its 32% of women. I misquoted. But still thats over a 20% difference. I can dig up the study on ~20% of women being in poly relationships without knowing it as well. Basically women only date attractive dudes on apps to the point 1/5 are dating a player and getting conned. Leaving 51% of men to just rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:31 PM
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men bond by being rude to eachother in a very endearing way. It keeps them accountable with themselves. Women openly hate on all men and then scream sexism and misogyny when any shade comes their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:11 AM
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Men profit but women like it. What are you getting at? Women like this industry so project their own liking this industry onto the men they date and thus expect men to be fashionable. Men as such have to also take part to satisfy the womans own interests. Its female privilege and they're blind to it. Men don't compete in this way. Women do. But men have to compete in this way to satisfy a woman because she wont settle for a man who she sees as worse then her fashion wise because subconsciously t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:04 PM
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Do you believe it was about love in the first place? Personally I think this comes down to the inability to pair bond with multiple partners. Once you have seen greener grass the brown fall grass is just too depressing. They're victims of their own priviledge of easy access to chad and super high value guys who put them on that rollercoaster for a few weeks. Meaning that is now the expectation for all other men to follow. But there is also the argument that women can not love a man unconditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:14 PM
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This. Naive liberals are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:12 PM
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Its 51% of men 18-31 are single. and only 20% of women. It is estimated 20% of women are in polyamorous relationships without knowing it because all they do is date chad and a man becomes chad (gym, etc) to sleep with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:12 PM
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Yes. I spent 2.5 years on dating apps without getting a conversation with a woman. I lost weight and got fit and got asked out twice in two weeks and had 5 dates. Dating is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:08 PM
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Did you try it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:09 PM
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This has nothing to do with grammar. This has to do with how English is interpreted. The lack of stating you are not a doctor does make it ambiguous from a boolean logic point of view but it is not ambiguous from a colloquial English point of view. The sentence you made makes no sense if you are not a doctor. Like you even provided a recommended amount of jackoff sesssions. You are full of it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:23 AM
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you were being manipulative and its sad as fuck and now your back tracking. i'd be a shitty doctor if X implies you are offended about being labelled as a shitty doctor and by saying it that way you imply that you aren't a shitty doctor because you recommend X. Its how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:05 AM
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I like women because I like to talk and to listen. I find guys normally suck at talking and girls love to talk. They're simply more enjoyable to speak with, but are often aloof or naive. I treat it like speaking with a child. I seem women as just as valuable but not as equals. I acknowledge we are different in many ways. We are simply wired much differently and thats OK. I think that women cannot love a man for who he is and will only conditionally love a man as long as he continues to act like …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:49 AM
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Thats why as a man it is your responsibility to stay fit and good looking. Otherwise, welcome to divorce court.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:28 AM
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If you're in a sexless relationship leave. If shes nagging you, you fucked up and need to fix something. Figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:27 AM
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Studies have shown women get upset when a less attractive man makes a move on them or shows interest. The argument is they get upset because it signals to her that the less attractive man feels he is in her league. So she is more likely brutally reject him to show everyone else that she is NOT in his league and can do better. Its a public display of demonstrating her value to all the other men who are in her league or better than her. 'Look how much better I am then HIM'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:13 AM
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I know how important looks are and I want my kids to be the most successful in life as they can. I was overweight and got 0 attention but luckily I had good genetics and I dont want my kids to lose that. I find plastic surgery a deep unresolved insecurity and find it gross, from tits to injections to tucks and touch ups. Don't do shit to your body. If its surgery to remove a mole or something fine. But fake looks fake. I find it gross. Small tits are awesome ladies. This mainly stems from my ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:08 AM
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No, feminism has just made it so men feel they cannot approach. The amount of women i've heard complain about men at work or men at school or men in public who approached them is like infinitely more then the men i've heard who had success with cold approaches. Women keep saying they don't want to be bothered at work but then go and want to be approached. The TLDR is you all dont know what the fuck you want and expect the man to just do it all for you . From approach, chase, ask you out, plan da…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:05 AM
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No, people do not talk like this. I'd be a terrible doctor if I didn't give you X medical advice is you saying you are a doctor and the advice you are giving is what a doctor who was not bad would give you. Only a doctor would phrase a sentence like this. Or someone trying to be manipulative and insinuate they are a doctor. lol nt jose. you're referencing the third law with assumptions but don't realize that the way you phrased the statement does not lead to assumptions. You are trying to argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:18 PM
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I believe there are shitty men in this world and that it is dangerous out there for women. But I do not agree those men who are never messaged (80% of them by the way) or incels are shitty men . These were the same men you went to school with. You didn't think every man in high school was some predator did you? so what has changed?! I cannot take a women view seriously because I personally spent 2.5 years on dating apps without even getting a single conversation with a woman. I got ghosted after…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:50 PM
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I completely understand how women feel in this world. The world is big and scary to you. However 99.9% of people are not like the people you describe so your anxiety around men is unjustified. I understand when approached you are likely to give out your number out of fear for retaliation (or give out a fake number). I get it. These men also arent typically the men to approach you in public. Thus they go onto dating apps where women can be harsh and not be judged or have fear for retaliation and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:29 PM
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Thats ironic because female dating preferences show they exclusively date their own predators... the men at the top who got fit and muscular did so to attract women and for no other reason. You are delusional if you think otherwise. The gymbro went to the gym to fuck women end of story. I watched in my 20s as every guy in my friend group got fit and muscular, and got into pick up artist shit, and chased women. literally 9/12 of us got into it. To this day they are still into it. So women are lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:18 PM
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Well obviously because those women deserved it /s What a ridiculous statement. incel means involuntary. Means they don't have a choice. Rather than shit on them the proper thing to do would be to support them by addressing their mental health issues, educating them in how they are expected to behave, teach them what is expected of them as men. Be open about in our society about what attracts women (Being in good health mental and physical, being succeseful, being confident, being assertive, bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:08 PM
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If you communicated that in that way 99.999% of English speakers would assume doctor, this means you are failing communication end of story. Take the L dude you said you were a doctor. It is true it was not clearly stated but it is implied otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense because you're not a doctor at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:17 PM
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The same reason the fat kid is always portrayed as good natured in movies. When you are a victim of something you tend to become more compassionate as others struggles. Because you can relate better to hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:15 PM
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You are writing English. You said you were a doctor end of story. I would be a terrible doctor - contrary to what a good doctor or not a doctor? Its always good doctor. You can't go and say conditional here. You're just wrong and an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:01 PM
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Because by being ignored they tend to be more empathetic to other peoples struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:01 PM
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How is this even hard, 80% of men don't even get messaged on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:47 PM
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It has the connotation that you are a doctor. You phrased it that way to look credible. Its manipulative and you got caught for it and now you are embarrassingly trying to argue otherwise. If you had any balls you'd just own up to it but you are continuing to try to validate yourself to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:34 PM
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"I WOULD BE... a terrible doctor... if I didn't" You are saying you are a doctor and you would be a terrible one if you didn't recommend X. Do you even speak English? I'm not proving you wrong, i'm saying you're a young idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:23 PM
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I'd be a terrible doctor if I didn't. l m a o
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:12 PM
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Didn't you try to say you were a doctor or some shit. lmao. you don't even know what you are talking about @ 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:55 PM
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Not true https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Men equally show interest in women from 0th percentile to 90th percentile linearly with their attractiveness. With a huge spike at 9's/10's because every guy shoots his shot (Its all about the personality right? right? so why not try). Meanwhile women refuse to message any man they deem below themselves. Which as you can see cuts out 80% of men from even participating in the market. Those in the top 5-10 percent get many women. Ironically these are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:53 AM
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Have you dated many women in their later 20s? They're all worried all men want is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:52 AM
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Do you wake up with morning wood every morning? If not doc, i'd say you have something wrong like a thiamine deficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:50 AM
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Not true. I'm actually very good in conversation, much better than most in fact... thanks to reading several books on conversation (the art of conversation, you're not listening, the art of witty banter, talking to strangers, nonviolent communication, the four agreements, and john gottmans book on couples communication but I cant remember what its called). I spent almost all of my 20s talking to people too so was social like 8 hours a day. I was just overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:46 AM
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Your dad is an idiot. Do not listen to your parents about dating ever. Their lived experience is so detached from the current world that anything they tell you will be wrong. They grew up with a very limited view of male:female interactions where people paired up with their local friends. Now a days there is nothing stopping an average woman from seeking the richest man she can because she has accesss to every man at her finger tips. Your dad is right about focusing on your career. Just you need…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:22 PM
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Check out the book it didn't start with you. Its very useful to understand inherited family trauma and how to overcome it for your boys. I'd also recommend Of boys and men, which will teach you how society is setting men up for failure and what you can do about it so your kids don't become like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:19 PM
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Good, so you already practice semen retention. Why do you have a problem with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:14 PM
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First off its not brainwashing when it was my lived experience. You are being manipulative by proposing that by being 'brainwashed' the brainwashing is 'wrong' because it doesn't conform to your views or isn't socially acceptable. You are appeasing the audience with your argument and that is a fallacy & manipulative. Just because a not acceptable community has a particular view does not make the view of that community wrong. Please argue in good faith. Secondly you are changing the argument to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:58 PM
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They are not equally shallow: https://i.redd.it/robcb3ggida81.jpg Men equally show interest in women from 0th percentile to 90th percentile linearly with their attractiveness. With a huge spike at 9's/10's because every guy shoots his shot (Its all about the personality right? right? so why not try). Meanwhile women refuse to message any man they deem below themselves. Which as you can see cuts out 80% of men from even participating in the market. Those in the top 5-10 percent get many women. Ir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:02 PM
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Ok thats fair. But then why is the public narrative looks don't matter when 40+ of couples meet in a medium where only looks matter? Why are we not teaching men that they need to be fit and attractive if they want to participate in 40+% and rising dating market. Why can we not acknowledge that women are more shallow and unrealistic then men are, at least when participating in OLD? Instead talking about these things or acknowledging these things comes across as anti feminist, the men get shamed f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:47 PM
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I got an electrical engineering degree which required 16 hours a day. Its considered the most difficult degree to obtain and for good reason. When I came out the other end it was like w t f happened. I started in 2012. I came out in 2017 and started online dating. Took two years to figure out I got no attention because I was overweight, which was a hard pill to swallow. Then spent the next two years reading 100 books, losing weight, getting fit, and learning pick up tactics and dating. As you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:36 PM
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2019 https://qz.com/1546677/around-40-of-us-couples-now-first-meet-online Agreed you rely on looks online, but thats the problem, that a large majority has moved online. It has given women the sense that they can attract these really attractive guys in the real world too. Given them a false sense of their value. Thus 51% of men are out of a relationship compared to 20% of women, it is estimated 20% of women are in polyamorous relationships without even know it. Because they all date pick up arti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:13 PM
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Feminism has made public approaches not allowed. over 50% of couples are meeting on dating apps. It is the expectation. or even your job (men lie). These are the insecurities I am talking about that I have to deal with. I work for a tech company in research and am extremely successful, well socialised, and basically got 0 attention till I got pilled. I dont use my looks to get women, I am using my looks to save one secure undamaged woman from this disastrous dating scene. Except they're all dama…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:00 PM
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Men lack awareness. Know where you stand in the dating game and work with it. Instead you want these size 4 supermodel looking women that you’ll never have. You’re choosing to be alone. You don’t want the women on your level. Not true. I was 40 lb overweight, FAANG worker making more than $200,000 a year. I spent 2.5 years across 3 dating apps and never got a single conversation. I got ghosted after matching and a message or two over and over. I found even fat chicks wouldnt match. I lost weight…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:35 PM
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No man thinks - but every man has a biological need to support someone. Its what the hormone testosterone does. Men who have no one to care for or support get depressed and become shitty men because their needs are not being met biologically (and i'm not even talking about sex here). Shaming men for wanting a partner is like shaming women for being irrational while they are PMSing. For that matter shaming men for wanting sex is the same too but I digress.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:46 PM
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Mirroring is also important in connecting with someone in conversation. If they lean forward, you lean forward. If they put their hand on their chin, you put your hand on your chin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SdqaGS_jc The meta bit is that if she starts mirroring you - you know she likes you. You touch her, she touches you back. You can touch her more. She will touch you more. Every time she touches you, you are given permission to touch her more and in more sexual ways. For instance you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:29 PM
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In regards to the last statement, except in regards to OLD. In that case looks are the only thing that matters in the beginning because without it you never get your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:10 PM
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Except you will come to find most women are like this. If you get offended you come across as needy and disrespectful to her needs (she expects you to guess). This is why mirroring is so important. You need to match her interest. Men attach much more quickly than women, falling in love on average after 5 dates vs 14. Most men don't realize they attach quicker and come across as needy and insecure because she isn't there yet and she doesn't realize it either. You just need to chill the f out and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:08 PM
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Femenists do with their 'cant approach at work, cant approach at school, cant approach in public, can't approach at the gym, can't approach in the street' rhetoric. Stop blaming women and society for it and stop avoiding your fears. Stop making assumptions about me, you just failed the third law of effective communication. I learned it was BS a long time ago. I am just stating the experience of modern men & why it is the way it is now. You are projecting your own insecurity here. The crisis we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:04 PM
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Its annoying because men are told their whole lives they cannot be forward with women then women are shocked when men arent forward. Yes you are right, but you have to understand how we got here & that the frustration is warranted. Men have been conditioned to be passive. Then women say they want equality but will never ever make a move first. The double standard is just unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:56 PM
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Women are like cats. Do not get insecure about being ignored. They will come and go as they please. Also women like to ignore men to see if they are insecure, its a shit test. If you ignore her and let her go and dont make a big deal out of it they come back. When they do treat it like nothing happened. Why? because you don't care and her childish antics don't phase you. Mirror her vibe. If she ignores you ignore her. If she wants to talk talk. That is how you form a connection and she feels hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:52 PM
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Bouldering is pretty sick for getting a nice looking bod. Plus its not as much a workout as it is a fun activity. Why do machines or weights when you can play ape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:50 PM
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You may have a predisposition for requiring more thiamine. Try taking a tbsp of non fortified nutritional yeast every morning. Its a life saver. Or take B50 and B1 (you need both the full complex & more B1). Also vitamin D. But thiamene is the big big depression causer thats never diagnosed. Instead they put people on lithium and those people suffer for a basic deficiency / genetic trait of requiring more thiamene. Try it - please. Your brain will feel ALIVE like you an drank energy drink for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:34 PM
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Yep. Men with any issue basically get stomped and trampled on. Called a creep. Ostracised. Women get support because they are seen as virtuous, but those gross damaged men are despicable!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:33 PM
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Just do yourself a favour and try it for a week. There is nothing more I can do for you. Literally a few days of not jacking off and you will come back to this comment and thank me. You do you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:20 PM
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I have perfect facial skin as a result of being a computer nerd for my whole life - girls always want to check my ID because they think i'm too young LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:11 PM
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Normal weight > muscle > hair > clothes If you are overweight don't even try online dating. Your time is better spent in the gym or researching ketogenic diets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:11 PM
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Which is the problem because women then project their sex insecurities on good guys who just want someone to love. Instead those men get ignored, shamed as an incel, and left to die alone. Basically the PUA community which consists of all those guys at the top has shifted womens perspective on men to such a degree that all men suffer, and women lack the self awareness to identify how damaged they have become as a result of their dating choices. Men in their 20s who get fit and muscular do so bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:07 PM
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I am being serious when I say jacking off placates you and makes you not want to chase women. You will be naturally more muscular, lose weight easier, develop masculine facial features, all due to the higher testosterone you will have more energy, a lot more. You will be horny as fuck. You wont be able to focus on anything other than women. Plus I personally believe pheremones are a thing. After practicing no fap i'd have women come over and they'd be sweating sitting on the couch next to me. Ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 12:35 PM
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The red pill teaches you how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:43 AM
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Thats the right mindset. The world sucks. Blame your parents for not preparing you for how shallow the world is. Just don't blame yourself in 10 years because you never put in the effort. I'd recommend reading the art of conversation, you're not listening, no more mr nice guy, the way of the superior man, models, attached, the art of witty banter, how to not die alone, men are from mars women are from venus, mans guide to women, art of seduction. K I could keep going here. social skills > all. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:34 AM
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Two of my friends stopped bringing their girlfriends out LOL. Their would point their feet towards me while we talked all the time - lol. Since I was practicing conversation i'd chat with them a lot. Read a lot of books on conversation and listening during my weight loss... anyway its just funny to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:49 PM
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Yep! outward chest, got the big V. Thighs stick out past my sides a bit. With fat it hid well but I was barrel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:26 PM
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I am very privileged. White, 5'10", was 230 -> ~190 now. Half ukranian half british. My mom was a stunner, my dad had good genes. Hunter eyes, good smile lines, nice nose. It was all hidden by my lack of jawline. I look like leonardo dicaprio
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:12 PM
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I work professionally on a public facing open source project that gets a lot of public attention so I am unwilling to tie my professional life to my rants on a very controversial topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:04 PM
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Same. I told my friends it was get fit or die alone and they ridiculed me for being fake and conforming. My female friends shamed me and insinuated I was only interested in hookups or sex. Told me they liked a man with a little bit of extra flab. Told me to be myself and virtue signalled out the ass. It hurt our relationships a lot. Its like, sorry I don't want to be alone for the rest of my life?! I've learned they were just jealous of my drive and ambition to be the best I could be, because ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:49 PM
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Good job! Sucks about the cosmetic work though - western culture really really blows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:22 PM
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My cousin sleeps with 3 women a week and has for like 6 years. I dont have statistics about 'chads' though. My experience after becoming attractive and learning game was my first week I scheduled 4 dates that week. I'm respectful though and not interested in hookups. And yes that is the average for normal weight men at 35. Puts into perspective the cultural narrative that men only want sex. Its then the men who don't just want sex (80%+) that have to navigate that insecurity and walk on eggshell…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:08 PM
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Thanks! I was always incredibly disciplined, motivated, driven, ambitious, and confident. I just saw my friends go down the looksmaxing in my 20s and I saw it as weakness in their character, a lack of ambition and drive, a desire to conform. None of those guys have careers like I do so I win in the end and I knew that 12 years ago. I was just looked down at for liking computers and being overweight. After seeing statistics and being pilled it was easy to accept and just go with. I do realise inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:21 PM
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See now you are just trolling. Glad to see I convinced you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:12 PM
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I am not saying I want to make a woman more anxious. Do not assume my motives, my personality, or my behaviours. That's grossly unfair, and is arguing in bad faith. Please have a rational discussion here. Men who know that women are anxious and latch onto avoidance are the pick up artists / abusers. They understand attachment styles and female attraction and use that to take advantage of women. The simps are the good natured high testosterone folk that cant get women because they do not understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:02 PM
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Except the older man has money and resources and the young man is broke. Most women date older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:58 PM
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attraction is not just looks. Its all encompassing. A lack of experience comes off as unattractive and not confident. To a younger woman a lack of experience is just normal so she won't notice it as much and the two can grow together. An inexperienced older guy and a younger woman are just more compatible than the modern woman and an inexperienced guy (most guys fall into this camp with on average 2 partners by 35).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:39 PM
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Those men are simps virtue signalling - catering to women. It is in fact the men who mock incels on /r/niceguys and /r/inceltear who are the nice guys themselves. How is that for irony... It is also then the men who stand up and call out the incel hatred who are confident and assertive and NOT a "niceguy". People are just oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:13 PM
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Not true. In my experience even the fat chicks wouldn't date me because they have infinite options too. Thus I now have a rule: No fat chicks. They didn't give me a chance when I was in their league. I know how desperate and insecure they are and how many dudes they fuck for a little bit of attention. Went on a few dates with overweight women because despite being pilled I am good natured, its a huge no from me chief. I cant deal with the insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:59 PM
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Then they are surprised when those good men date younger women. In my experience women in their early 30s are bitter, angry, depressed, resentful, entitled, insecure, and desperate. Why would I deal with that bundle of joy when I learned through hardship and loneliness to max myself and can just date a 24 year old who is still bubbly, happy, and hasn't been mentally destroyed by the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:43 PM
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Thats because by being deprived of any and all affection until 25 he learned the value of having someone in his life. Its one of the big issues I have with the left wing anti incel culture. Most of these men are really good natured and just want someone to love. And they are shamed for that. Shamed until they become bitter and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:35 PM
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And when they settle they will be bitter and resentful because of all the experiences with more attractive males when she was younger. That man will be held to the same standard. Never let yourself go gents. Be fit, attractive until you croak.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:20 PM
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Tech worker in FAANG. I was overweight, by like 30-40lb. I spent 2.5 years on dating apps and didn't get a single conversation with a woman. Just got ghosted after matching and a message or two repeatedly. I got fit, muscular, updated my photos and within a week two women had asked ME out. I was always attractive, confident, good natured. It just didn't matter because I was overweight. Within a week I had gone on 5 dates with 5 different women. Its then really funny how women like to say looks d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:17 PM
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Sure, thats fair. I think this comes down to the terminology I used rather than anything wrong with what I said in general. I suppose involuntary means they don't have a choice rather than its not their fault. Sure its their fault, they can just 'get better!' (some can't get more attractive though...) What I meant to say is rather than support these people to produce a more equitable and fair society, blue pilled redditors and women step on these men and treat them like dogshit. Which contradict…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:45 PM
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Look at the definition of the term. Involuntary. Its not their fault and women don't care / actively insult them for not being desirable. Incels showcase evolutionary psychology and female nature in a way that contradicts our view of society, feminism, and equality. Whats worse is simps and incels who are blue pilled actively work to gaslight themselves and others from the cold hard truths of female behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:13 PM
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Reddit is bluepilled. Meaning redditors who are incels themselves white knight and virtue signal. Reddit is just extremely politically left. It began when they started over moderating and banning any and all dissenting content from the platform which historically was anything goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:10 PM
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Men don't care about how much money his partner makes. Testosterone predisposes them to want to provide support and it gives men great joy to do so. Men who do not wish to provide support just know that withholding support and setting strong financial boundaries is attractive because it triggers her anxiety around her security and wellbeing, making her latch on harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:46 AM
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I'm kinda attracted to the damage though, because I had a hard past with trauma hahahaha. Very few women need to work on themselves to identify trauma, learn about the symptoms of things like abandonment wounds or abuse, and actively work through their insecure attachment styles though which frustrates me. As a guy if you display any bit of insecurity you get passed over, but they can be a walking train wreck completely oblivious to it. Trauma bonds are my thing and i'm a fixer 🤷. I've learned f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:34 AM
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Lost weight and worked out. Learned game. Learned psychology. I went into dating knowing the red pill because it took 2.5 years to lose weight (and wtf else am I gonna do as someone highly driven and motivated) - went out of my way to validate it because i'm fairly analytical. I'd test against friends and girls I was dating. I had a friend of 18 years invite me to her home after reconnecting in a single evening. All I did was flirt with her, listen to her problems, be stoic, tease her over board…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:16 AM
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get fit and lose weight man. Best you can do. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:52 PM
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Men have to change how they speak when interacting women. Women are oblivious to it. Go record 5 men talking to eachother and then go record each of those men with 4 other women. They are forced to go from direct communication to indirect and switch to an active listening role. Men have to initiate every advance in a relationship from asking out to kissing, to sex, to any form of intimacy Men have to initiate most conversations and keep the conversation going Men have to provide a safe space for…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:51 PM
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You placate yourself with your hand. If you didn't, you'd have a higher sex drive. Try no fap november but do it this January, its hormonal... If you are full your hormones start raging and you just want to fuck. You will start chasing the fuck out of women and look like an ass until you get yourself one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:26 PM
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Women do this too. In fact in psychology its known that women tend to compete in indirect ways such as who they marry, how pretty they look. Its why they wear makeup. Its why they fill instagram with photos. They like to show off without 'showing off' or directly competing. Except they then blame men for having to wear makeup when if you were to ask a man about makeup he wouldn't care. They're oblivious to what motivates them to be more attractive select good partners. Its how women compete with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:12 PM
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If you look at message statistics from tinder and other apps men linearly message women in accordance with their attractiveness. With a huge spike at 9/10 because every guy shoots his shot. From the data men are actually the more realistic and fair ones when it comes to initial attraction. Meanwhile with women, women only message men in the top 20 percentile. Meaning most men simply get ignored. If you want my personal real life experience. I didn't even get a conversation after 2.5 years on 3 d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:06 PM
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It makes complete sense. Most men get ignored by women in their 20s. Especially if they focused on their career and weren't trying to be a player or take part in hookup culture. This is for a variety of reasons. Men in their 20's don't have financial freedom. Men in their 20s are competing against men in their late 20s and early 30s for partners. There are also 107 men to every 100 women in USA & Canada. So statistically many men in their 20s have much fewer partners than women. Some men have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:55 PM
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The reason why the rejection happened matters. Being overweight for instance. For instance I spent 2.5 years on dating apps with some flab and didn't get a conversation for 2.5 years. One message -> ghosted. I lost weight and got asked out twice in the first week with new photos. As a guy. I got asked out. Its not their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:01 PM
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Ugly or fat. That's it. It's not their fault their female friends told them to be themselves, but then those same female friends won't ever consider them as a partner and won't tell them to get strong and muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:58 PM
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It's not a cold war. It's open to the public. Women have an active war on men, and men are like the rebels trying to fight for survival in their manosphere caves. I think women would be shocked at what men talk about in private with other men. They're so culturally entitled on their high horse that they would be absolutely flabbergasted at what goes on in their partners mind regarding their behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:56 PM
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I became attractive after becoming pilled (and not getting a conversation for 2.5 years on apps). Yes. The red pill teaches a lot about evolutionary psychology and it is 100% true. after becoming attractive I experimented for a while with the women I was speaking to and dating. I'd open up -> get rejected. I'd talk about my problems -> rejected. I'd show interest -> rejected. I'd ignore her -> omg omg do you like me do you do you do you?!?! lets get together tonight please please please.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:51 PM
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My issue that while ladies say the men aren't quality, i've yet to meet a lady with comparable social skills, emotional maturity, strong character. Quality means 'fit and muscular and well off financially' to the average woman. The same women who say 'be yourself' completely oblivious to their own behavior. The lack of self awareness...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:50 PM
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As a man I have found that if I try to 'get to know her' on apps I get ghosted. If I am sexual over messages and she is attracted to me its an instant date. Why would I spend a week or two messaging back and forth just for it to go nowhere. Why do I as a man have to get past a womans insecurity around men just wanting sex. Honestly by being forward and a girl being receptive I am actively filtering out the damaged avoidant insecure women who aren't attracted to me. The most annoying thing is as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:45 PM
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You assume that he is going after younger women because they are young. Perhaps he himself is less experienced in relationships as he focused on his career or goals, so in fact dating younger is dating his own age just with the maturity that comes with getting older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:34 PM
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The lies about female behaviour and dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:09 PM
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Yes it is, because women get so much attention on dating apps they have no choice BUT to compare. If you have even one negative the answer is NO for any high quality relatively attractive woman. I had everything going for me except I was ~40lb overweight. I spent 2.5 years on dating apps without even getting a conversation. I lost 40lb and within a week got asked out twice. You are W R O N G.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:06 PM
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They would complain and the simps would give them their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:48 PM
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Those men complain and date younger women because when they were younger the younger women ignored them. They are bitter towards older women because older women got their cake and now they want to eat it too. As a man in his 30s who became attractive, succesful, after a decade of hard work and self improvement I have earned my keep to date younger women. In my experience older women are bitter, resentful, damaged, demanding, and just aren't fun to be around. Those women refused to settle when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:21 PM
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I was told my whole life to be myself. I saw all my friends in their 20s looks max. They all deepened their voice intentionally. Literally every single one of them had read the book the way of the superior man. I didn't want to play that game. I was gaslight by my 'friends'. I lost 40 lb and had two girls ask me out within a week... k
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:04 PM
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