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The questions were too aggressive, they put her in fear for her safety if she didn't go along with it!
/r/MensRights01/09/14 02:51 PM
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The problem is that this is a prevalent attitude in society. The fact is that this is data supporting a well known phenomena in society. It's not an issue of what the exact numbers are so much as that this attitude is somehow acceptable -- unilaterally deciding on having a child. The issue with that unilateral decision is that 1) fatherless children are statistically more like to do worse and 2) fathers being extorted for a child they may not want. You can flip 1 and 2 depending on your own pers…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:54 PM
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Thank you. I am really disappointed one of the top couple comments wasn't pointing out how bad this data and the conclusions drawn from it are. I totally understand everybody getting mad about the quote absolving women of lying, but there's a more important point. A small group of British women who subscribe to a specific magazine and self-selected to participate in a survey was likely not even representative of any population over a decade ago when it was done. All this article is good for is o…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:31 PM
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That's true, I didn't hear that whole part clearly. There was also the fact that she decided to go over there at 2am, but the fact that she had a phone and a door she could lock in the bathroom after she claimed she started getting uncomfortable and didn't use them seems more relevant to whether she was into it at the moment it happened.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 05:42 PM
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Not according to the guy who spoke in this video. He was not one of the actual expert witnesses, though, it sounded like he was part of the defense team I think.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 05:37 PM
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There were witnesses for the defense that the judge didn't allow to speak at the trial. Some had seen her obviously consensually kissing him that night on the way to his room. She had said that she didn't do anything like that and it was all him. Another was an ex boyfriend of hers who claims she falsely accused him of rape to her father because she came from a religious family and was afraid she'd get in trouble for having premarital sex. They also talk about how Tyson's promoter got him a lawy…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 03:55 PM
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Many posters in this thread have basically made the responses I have to this question on its face, so I want to address why I think this question keeps getting asked. I believe the reason is that basically everyone has heard that feminism defines itself as "the women's rights movement", and a movement for equality. "Obviously, women's rights and equality are good things that everyone who isn't completely horrible can agree on, so how can you disagree with feminism?" That's how I understand this …
/r/MensRights08/04/14 04:20 PM
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You are certainly not alone there. She has actually addressed the fact that these issues are often easier to hear coming from a woman in some of her videos. If I recall correctly, this is one that talks about that a little and some related human behavioral stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C46rSIfTum4 When I started watching her videos, I found them to be a good introduction to lots of things I'd never considered before. There are lots of other great vloggers on YouTube about this stuff, but…
/r/MensRights01/01/14 01:22 AM
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Yeah, I have a hard time believing people ignore potential child abductions as much as that commenter says, considering how often people intervene when a man is in public with his own children and no woman.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 03:43 PM
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I would definitely agree that being a men's rights activist, an egalitarian, and a women's rights activist are not exclusive of each other. They are different approaches to the same end. The only thing about this post I would disagree with is that "feminism" is an equivalent term to "women's rights".
/r/MensRights22/10/13 06:21 PM
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I think I recall reading that the woman who posed for that picture quit very soon afterward, too.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 04:49 PM
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I really liked the slogan someone suggested a while ago, something like, "MRM: the radical notion that women are adults"
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:31 PM
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I strongly agree. I lurk here often and rarely see people saying anything that is actually against women's rights, and they are usually called out and argued with very quickly. Anyone who thinks someone else's rights have to suffer for theirs to be respected doesn't know what rights are (which is also why so many of us have a problem with the feminist movement). It is very frustrating that women's rights has been so successfully branded as feminism in the public consciousness, it really complica…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 09:24 PM
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Men do it because they actually enjoy it and feel they are actually good at something. I sort of think that this is exactly the author's problem with it. Especially as so many people have pointed out that he does not seem to know how to actually use a grill.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 01:24 PM
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Not far off, but at least the wbc doesn't physically attack people during their insane protests
/r/MensRights17/06/13 05:24 PM
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My understanding is that cis-gendered is what you are of you are not trans-gendered. You identify with the gender that matches the body you were born with. Sexuality is a separate issue
/r/MensRights10/06/13 09:13 PM
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Pointing out that a man is being harmed when a woman may potentially be harmed by the same thing is not being unfair to women. Your notion that waitresses are constantly being propositioned and having people put their hands on them just is not true. I was a waitress for years and I was not required to tolerate that behavior. Perhaps those guests would have been more likely to behave inappropriately, given their clear sexism and entitlement, but perhaps they wouldn't have actually said or done an…
/r/MensRights10/06/13 08:58 PM
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I have had much better luck in discussing men's rights issues with women. There is probably a selection bias, and being female probably helps, but I find the men I know are usually more skeptical and dismissive about it than the women. Unfortunately, most of the men who are willing to discuss these issues have been personally and significantly harmed by them.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 08:18 PM
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The person whose name was redacted in yellow did actually bring up rape in OP's post
/r/MensRights10/06/13 08:06 PM
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I hadn't heard that before, but I like it. The imagery brings a little humor to a very frustrating situation
/r/MensRights10/06/13 07:43 PM
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I think this is the article I saw a while ago. It links to the menstoppingviolence.org pdf where they list using logic against a woman as domestic abuse in their list of violent and controlling behaviors. www.shrink4men.com/2011/10/18/an-immodest-proposal-domestic-violence-groups-claim-the-use-of-logic-by-men-is-abuse/
/r/MensRights26/05/13 06:28 PM
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Thank you for digging up that link, that is an excellent article.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:44 AM
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It pains me to upvote you for this information. I had not previously realized she was associated with the state I grew up in, and now I am ashamed. Thanks, all the same.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:19 AM
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This is clearly an example of man-physics nuclear rape oppression.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:16 AM
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That's exactly what I thought when I saw the charges, attempted murder was conspicuously missing. It looks like she got off really light on this, I would disagree that justice was served.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 11:02 PM
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This is all very in line with my personal experiences. I took women's studies because I was told by my sister that it would be a valuable experience, and I had never considered any gender issues at all before that point. I briefly considered myself a feminist, because I was told it meant supporting equality and the rights of all people. Even some men's issues were mentioned by my professor (I recall her talking about male victims of rape and domestic violence, and the lack of shelters to help th…
/r/MensRights06/12/12 11:25 AM
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Perhaps they were going for "nail salon"?
/r/MensRights06/12/12 11:25 AM
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I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here and say they were treating "attractiveness" as a separate variable from "masculinity" and "femininity". They were saying that whether or not a masculine man was attractive, he was more likely seen as a cheater, whereas for a woman to be seen as a cheater, she usually needed to be both feminine and attractive. With the quality of the rest of the article, I feel like I'm being extremely optimistic in that assessment, but it seems valid to me.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 10:23 AM
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On a related note; without the above the article may as well be claiming men are more likely to grow unicorn horns out of their arses and it would matter just as much. Oh, they are... Women can tell which men will, too!
/r/MensRights06/12/12 10:15 AM
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It sounds to me like a victory for feminists that it's breaking news if a female celebrity IS NOT one, rather than the other way around. Good for Katy Perry for speaking out against assumptions, but I'm still not going to listen to her music. I found her comment on how we "need female-centric music awards" and how they sometimes feel like "the Special Olympics of music" very worrying. Especially with the quote earlier on she used about women not being as good at making music as men. I'm sure she…
/r/MensRights06/12/12 10:04 AM
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The shock value of the article for me was increased by an unrelated ad at the bottom with a picture of a smirking old woman. It took me a second to realize it was, in fact, an unrelated ad.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 09:02 AM
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I know! They didn't even use a totally ridiculous statistic for male rape victims, like the "2%" I heard thrown around at one point. And then we were right back to pretending that essentially only men commit rape, and we just need to teach them to control their evil male instincts so they stop. :/
/r/MensRights06/12/12 08:50 AM
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I was not aware of this.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 08:36 AM
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The part about expecting her to get an abortion is useless and irrelevant in this context. She is perfectly free to make that determination for herself, should pregnancy occur. What's relevant is the part where the man does not consent to parenthood and rejects the rights and responsibilities that go with it. Framing it that way kind of makes it look like he is trying to force her to abort, which is not the case.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 08:00 AM
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I've been tempted to say the same, as my experience has been that I am still able to say no if I really want to, even when I'm more drunk than I should be. I've also never had someone press the issue, as it were, despite being as drunk as I was, they could still comprehend consent. I do think there is such a thing as too drunk to consent, though, and I also believe it's going to be pretty noticeable if someone is that far gone.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 04:14 PM
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He did even more than teach about animals, he ran a conservation effort and he was shown repeatedly putting himself in danger to move problematic wildlife that would have been killed without his intervention. I had to respect him from watching his show because he never hesitated to back up his beliefs with action.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:29 AM
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It looked like he was genuinely thanking her for making him aware of that website to me.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 11:27 PM
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Well said, you helped me put my finger on why the word "allies" set off alarms for me. It also seems really counterproductive to use language that divides us when we have the same goals.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 05:00 PM
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That is very interesting. I was not aware of that term, but this is something I have personally experienced. It makes me feel a little better to see I'm not alone on that. Also, and this in no way invalidates your point, but when I was a kid, the girls were going to Mars to get candy bars instead of college. But the point remained that they were more clever than the boys.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 11:59 AM
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I definitely agree that you should share your story if you are willing to do so. In my opinion, showing the personal side of these issues is possibly even more important than the also very important efforts to refute or correct the statistics that get quoted to marginalize these issues. Personal stories help people understand how these things happen, that real people are hurt, and that they are all too often treated in a completely unconscionable manner as a result.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 11:44 AM
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I really appreciate the photos you contributed. I feel like the other contributors talked about issues that I have come across in my family or have heard a fair amount about since I became interested in the MRM. Those photos are great and valuable, but I personally learned more from yours. Your submissions were very poignant and I feel like it helped me better understand what many men go through, including a close friend of mine. So thank you for sharing so many photos.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 04:20 PM
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I think you're right, it's either "male" or "white male" this person thinks is bad enough to need a warning.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 08:01 AM
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I had to stop reading for a moment when I got to that part. "Oh, you want to create a safe space to help people in need? We only support it if instead you try to fill them with irrational guilt for every bad thing anyone has ever done. The actual person and situation are irrelevant."
/r/MensRights13/11/12 01:32 PM
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It's more likely a guy could shove a girl away successfully if she's doing that. If he did that in a bar, it's also likely that suddenly around 10 drunk guys will want to beat his face in if he does. It's just a bad situation either way.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 01:43 PM
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I would say preferably separately. It seems easier to get someone to really listen and honestly engage with you if they don't have a buddy there to impress. A buddy makes it easier to put up your defenses and crack jokes when something is challenging to your beliefs.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 01:17 PM
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Just wow. There are so many layers of not ok there. People never cease to amaze and disappoint me.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 12:51 PM
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