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| 4 | Lately, this "Game" mostly feels like convincing Player 2 to pick up the controller | time_and_again | /r/seduction | 02/03/16 07:24 AM | |
| 1 | Do you ever feel relationship anxiety? | time_and_again | /r/seduction | 08/10/11 10:48 AM |
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| 2 | Need serious advice- My ex broke up with me about a month ago, said she used "depression" to mask that she was unhappy. How to deal with knowing she started dating someone new who looks like an "upgrade" immediately after we broke up? I feel as though I failed as a man to keep her interested?Something worth noting is that some people, a lot of girls especially, just recover faster. They move on fast because they're wired to. You can't base your self-esteem on it because it's entirely random and impossible to pin down. Sometimes, they're even dealing with the turmoil while in the relationship, which sounds like what happened to you. I had a similar, but milder thing happen to a girl I dated after 10 months. She started becoming literally and figuratively distant such that by the time… | /r/seduction | 29/08/16 04:22 AM |
| 4 | 6 Mistakes Most Men Make With WomenDid my first session Monday, so I'll see how it goes from here. | /r/seduction | 03/08/16 03:22 AM |
| 2 | 6 Mistakes Most Men Make With WomenI hope so, because none of the other readings have done the trick. At the end of the day, I don't know how to be a man that loves deeply yet can walk away unscathed. That's some zen koan shit, like submerging yourself in water and staying dry. Instead, each time I feel a little more broken and fundamentally unloved. And as of yet, no Real Man Pep Talks have helped me through that. | /r/seduction | 03/08/16 03:00 AM |
| 5 | 6 Mistakes Most Men Make With WomenYeah I understand all that. But I'm observably more depressed since opening this can of worms. While it's true that these principles helped me get laid and into a couple meaningful-ish relationships (and even a ONS, woo...), I haven't been able to translate it into model that affords me any lasting peace. If anything, I'm more bitter, insecure, and hopeless than when I started. I find it nearly impossible to inject enthusiasm and romance into my interactions, not because of initial rejection, bu… | /r/seduction | 03/08/16 12:45 AM |
| 12 | 6 Mistakes Most Men Make With WomenSomething I'm struggling with: what if the process of changing myself into a guy that is nonreactive, withholding, and relationship-averse is making me miserable? Obviously I don't want to be stepped all over in a relationship (who does?), but what if I just don't mesh with the seduction-standard polyamory? Are there other models for male-positive success in the modern western world or are we fated to spin plates forever like emotional buskers? I'm not looking to be a faux-Genghis Khan with a ha… | /r/seduction | 02/08/16 10:07 PM |
| 3 | I MADE IT and YOU WILL TOO !If I've learned anything, it's that time needs help. Waiting and living your life sometimes leaves issues buried that crop back up later. Time isn't always enough to exorcise every demon. | /r/seduction | 19/07/16 07:58 AM |
| 12 | Would you date a giant femaleI went on a date with a girl who was about the same height as me, 6'2". Maybe a little taller with her shoes. I doubt height had too much to do with it not working, but I couldn't help thinking I could have made a slightly better impression if she'd had to look up to me. There's something subconsciously masculine about being taller, probably why a lot of girls have height requirements. | /r/seduction | 13/07/16 04:32 AM |
| 17 | How do I escalate with women without offending them or coming off as a predator?Ignore all the blogs and indignant rants about men. I honestly believe those screeds are screwing a lot of guys up. They exaggerate the problems and what's more, the only guys who take them to heart are the empathetic ones who probably weren't the problem to begin with. | /r/seduction | 22/06/16 01:12 AM |
| 1 | How Being 'Direct' Is Usually Coming From DesperatenessGood insight. I've been working on my ego lately and this resonates with how I'm trying to approach... well the whole world, really. I think we all wish it could be easier at various times and sometimes direct game can be a shield for protecting our egos. Better to be frank and get rejected early than to try to connect and be seen as unworthy, boring, or unsexy. But it doesn't really come down to direct or indirect. I feel like you have to get to a point where you can truly observe your ego and … | /r/seduction | 06/06/16 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Is it better to let the girl know that you're a virgin or pretend you know what you're doing?There's no need to answer a question that's not being asked. My first time, I didn't mention it and she didn't realize because she was self-conscious about how she did. I told her later, when she asked about STDs. Actually had some great sex when I did, I think knowing it turned her on, but I'm glad I didn't mention it at first. | /r/seduction | 05/06/16 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Is running after a girl, say hi and ask for her number awkward?Isn't all of this awkward at first? Just do what feels right. Then if it feels like you need more chatting, add that in the next time. | /r/seduction | 04/06/16 07:15 PM |
| 5 | Teenage girls wants more texting before hang out? TINDERThe whole point of dating apps is to go on dates, so if a girl's too afraid to do that, why waste the energy? Let her work through her own neuroses with some other sap. That said, I've never really run into this with the 21 and up crowd. | /r/seduction | 30/05/16 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Need serious help with self-esteem issues (quarter-life crisis)I had a similar experience my first year of art school. Quick aside about that: there are plenty of career paths that don't involve starving as an artist, but if you're already invested in music, I would continue on that path and maybe include sound design. Basically, you're out of your element at the moment. Maybe you haven't had to make new friends from scratch for four years because high school was so tight. Don't worry, just spend as much time in common areas of school as you can and try to … | /r/seduction | 30/05/16 09:43 AM |
| 2 | How does one get laid without using the woman?If two people want to hook up and then they do, I'm not seeing where either is "using" the other. Just be honest about the kind of relationship you want. I don't mean start the conversation with it, but if it comes up, be real that you're trying to stay casual. You'd be surprised how many girls you think wouldn't want that who actually do. Just live in the moment and react honestly to what happens. Let a girl win you over before thinking about commitment. | /r/seduction | 30/05/16 09:26 AM |
| 3 | Where to meet girls if you are a 9-5?If you can find a good chiropractor near you, do it yesterday. I put it off for so long because my dad used to always make it sound like crazy nonsense, but it's been amazing. People always said yoga, stretching, physical therapy. Wasted money, comparatively. | /r/seduction | 20/05/16 07:32 AM |
| 3 | I am so unhappy with myself. I pretend to be confident but it's not real. I get attached to every girl and ruin it. Please help me seddit.I'm 28. It's not so much that true happiness comes from within... I mean, I guess it does, but it's more about realizing that "true" happiness isn't some state of being that differs from what we're in right now. There isn't some self-actualization waiting for us out there. Happiness can be from both internal and external things. Being with a good woman can make you happy, but it doesn't create your capacity for it. That's already there. Like I said, it's the difference between believing you're i… | /r/seduction | 19/05/16 04:30 AM |
| 7 | I am so unhappy with myself. I pretend to be confident but it's not real. I get attached to every girl and ruin it. Please help me seddit.It's hard, because you probably grew up believing things would just happen. That being a decent man would land you your own personal goddess, however humble, that you could love and feel loved in return. Like most of us, when she failed to materialize the way your well-meaning friends and family prophesied, you turned to pickup as a way out of the tunnel and towards the light. Like you said, it works. Sometimes. But it feels fake and you still believe that you shouldn't have to do it in a just w… | /r/seduction | 18/05/16 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Do you have your fundamentals down well enough to even be worrying about "game"?Major stumbling block? Having fun with it. I had a breakup last year that seemed minor at first, but I think it unearthed a lot of unexamined shit in my life. Been a rough year since then. I've had trouble being positive and optimistic when going out, which pretty much kills the motivation. I could get past approach anxiety pretty regularly because the idealism was there, but getting past approach nihilism? It's a bit more of a struggle. | /r/seduction | 11/05/16 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Do you have your fundamentals down well enough to even be worrying about "game"?What's the use in it, if you put all this effort in, just to get your self-esteem crushed? Like /u/Big_TX said, game comes first. It's true that game will be an uphill struggle without looks or money, but you don't save yourself any work by "focusing on yourself" unless that includes going out, striking out, and trying again without bitterness. I got a stylist, majorly upgraded my look, and kept at it with weights and cardio, but I let myself believe that was enough, that now because I'd fixed t… | /r/seduction | 10/05/16 08:46 PM |
| 3 | Do you have your fundamentals down well enough to even be worrying about "game"?Yeah this rings true for me. Sorting all this external stuff out is important and goes hand-in-hand with building a better life for yourself, but after months/years of lifting and exercise, thousands of dollars in revamping your wardrobe, and just as much in fixing your teeth, you can still walk into a night spot surrounded by beautiful women and feel powerless. You'll be the best looking chump in the building. Congrats. I know because I recently crashed and burned in that same way. I bought int… | /r/seduction | 09/05/16 11:39 PM |
| 2 | When you should ask a girl out on dating apps (Hint: sooner than you think)Thanks for the example. So many others online are more for fun or shock value, so I love the relatively normal ones that I could see myself using too. | /r/seduction | 28/04/16 04:37 AM |
| 1 | I'm starting to think girls don't like good guysthe imonlydoingthissoyoullfuckme nice guy I feel like the last thing we should be doing to the timid men of the world is ascribing ill intentions to their conditioned behavior. They're not behaving this way selfishly, they're doing it because they've been brought up to believe that such behavior is correct and desirable. Family and friends tell them that they're kind gentleman and that they should never ever change, but no one actually examines what's not working. Essentially, they've been damag… | /r/seduction | 28/04/16 12:25 AM |
| 1 | I'm starting to think girls don't like good guysIt's basically the same as here, but without all the self-censoring and a lot more amateur behavioral/evolutionary psychology. Plenty of angry dudes, but the same could be said of atheists when they're first breaking free from their religious upbringing. | /r/seduction | 27/04/16 11:57 PM |
| 3 | Everything's so much easier for me abroad...Totally feel you. I don't know what it is about L.A. Everyone just waiting to be impressed, I guess. | /r/seduction | 21/04/16 12:01 AM |
| 32 | For any females out there, don't expect everyone you're into to approach you first.Yeah that's the thing. Nothing "just happens" a man makes it happen. | /r/seduction | 01/04/16 03:18 PM |
| 2 | I'm actively seeking rejection to get over my rejection anxietyYeah I wouldn't say he's entirely off base. Girls rarely want to deal with a timid man. Doing something outrageous that you'd normally think would get you rejected might actually pay off (and if not, you get more experience anyway). The average guy's idea of bad behavior is probably not as off-putting as he thinks. | /r/seduction | 31/03/16 05:40 PM |
| 1 | I asked out 100 women in real life and got 14 numbers and 4 dates. I asked out 100 women online and got 0 responses. Online dating is a fail.Yeah LA's working on a skewed curve or something. Feels like pulling teeth, even in person. Still looking for the right spots though. | /r/seduction | 02/03/16 06:44 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of asking out girls when you are the hired gun?Better idea, use it as a chance to make small talk and give people ego boosts. Make jokes. Just be like a friend who knows their names and warmly greets them. Do it for guys and girls. I know I'd love it if my gym's front desk people were a bit more friendly. Not only will you be doing your job better, you might have some girls linger and chat a bit longer. Then if you think there's something there, give it a shot. Way cooler than just chucking out date invites to every cute girl that walks in. … | /r/seduction | 17/02/16 09:24 PM |
| 1 | How to Flirt with the Fuckhot Alpha Male as a Submissive FemaleOf course I see the difference, I'm a well-adjusted human being. But here's the problem: girls get catcalled (or whatever kind of harassment) by men, the message in retaliation is distilled down to "don't sexualize me, I am not here for you, I am not an object, etc." All very fine points, but who hears that message? Is it the type of guy who catcalls? Nope, it's the decent men with empathy who care about how their actions are perceived. They never catcalled anyway, but now they approach less bec… | /r/seduction | 02/02/16 11:26 PM |
| 8 | How to Flirt with the Fuckhot Alpha Male as a Submissive FemaleDo you mean logically or viscerally? Because I feel like in most cases, we're more attracted to that dichotomy than we tend to admit in polite company. | /r/seduction | 01/02/16 06:45 PM |
| 6 | How to Flirt with the Fuckhot Alpha Male as a Submissive FemaleIt makes me think of all the nonsense around catcalling. Everyone's like, "teach men not to do it", but it's like they don't realize... we already did. I'm part of a generation of men that got the message loud and clear: women are not for you, don't bother them, treat them with respect, etc. When the basic message is "don't approach", considerate men hear that and approach less, if at all. They stick to their social groups and cautious forays into online dating. So all you're left with are dudes… | /r/seduction | 01/02/16 06:40 PM |
| 6 | A girl bought me a drink for the first time, but...Sounds like she digs you, but is loyal. Just keep bar hopping with her. It's social proof, plus talking to her will probably make you more confident around the other girls you chat up. There's an outside chance she could leave her current dude, but it's hardly worth banking on. | /r/seduction | 14/12/15 11:10 PM |
| 7 | A girl bought me a drink for the first time, but...Ouch, don't wish the lame kind of three-way on him. | /r/seduction | 14/12/15 11:07 PM |
| 1 | I thought I was the only one who felt this kind of anxiety around women, then I saw this film...Looks like we should vacation in Budapest more. IOIs as far as the eye can see! | /r/seduction | 09/12/15 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Is getting laid worth all the effort?I think not feeling powerless is worth it. | /r/seduction | 02/12/15 02:39 AM |
| 3 | So many girls on Tinder say they aren't looking for ONS but is this really true?Yeah the amount of overlap in these texts seems crazy to me, but maybe some girls like having more to reply to? I try to keep to one idea per message for my own sanity, but then I haven't had much luck on Tinder. Maybe I'm coming across too uninterested. | /r/seduction | 02/12/15 01:55 AM |
| 1 | How to be appear like an interesting person who look like he has his life together without appearing like you are obnoxious or bragging?Has anyone told you that you're being obnoxious? Because you might be worried about nothing. Over-confidence is what this game is all about, so don't feel bad if you talk about something awesome you did. If you're really worried, just try to do more listening or question-asking when you might otherwise talk about yourself. Adjust as needed. | /r/seduction | 13/11/15 07:05 PM |
| 1 | From zero to laid. A step by step guide for my younger self. (Long post)I'd love to see more than just strategy for Tinder (or online in general). I've read a ton of strategy, but still feel like I'm floundering in that arena. When I get a response to my first message, I rarely get anything beyond that. I'd love to see a bunch of different real examples of conversations that worked so I can develop a sense of how I should structure, what I should say, when to pull the trigger, etc. I realize every man's different--I'm not looking for a script--I just want a sense of… | /r/seduction | 09/11/15 10:07 PM |
| 3 | Today I hit rock bottom: Seduction will not save you.Still looking tbh. I need to learn to have actual fun approaching and striking up conversations. Don't get me wrong, I have done it plenty, but not for the fun of it. I'm an introvert, my socializing is directed and purposeful. It's always been with a goal in mind: meeting a girl and starting a relationship. But after multiple relationships in a row that ended for really flimsy reasons, I sort of lost that wide-eyed enthusiasm I had for the whole thing. Suddenly the thought of going through all … | /r/seduction | 05/11/15 03:07 AM |
| 6 | Today I hit rock bottom: Seduction will not save you.Hardest part for me after feeling these lows is rediscovering the purpose. As bad as it is to pedestalize, appease, and sacrifice, you at least have a sort of misguided goal in all of it, a romantic ideal you're striving towards. Once you lose that and the cold, pragmatic nature of it all is laid bare, it's tough to find a new paradigm to work under, something that incorporates enthusiasm and romance, but without the delusions you grew up with. | /r/seduction | 04/11/15 10:38 PM |
| 36 | The 7 Keys to Massive Confidence In LifeStill, probably better to err on the side of too much, if you've always had trouble not doing enough. What seems arrogant to a timid man is probably just right for a lot of girls. | /r/seduction | 03/11/15 12:45 AM |
| 3 | How to Take a Girl From Polite Chat to Super Horny in Less than 1 HourAll of this is really just a "dress for the job you want, not the one you have" sort of thing, except with behavior. If people only ever limited their presentation to what's accurate right now, they'd never break past that. If an anxious man wants to be confident, he has to first behave confidently, internal feelings be damned. Arguably, he is not portraying himself accurately in that moment, but he is acting in accordance with his goals and desires. | /r/seduction | 28/10/15 05:48 PM |
| 6 | How does the game change once you're out of college?Depends. I didn't really have much going on in college, but in retrospect, the social circles were wider. More opportunities to casually meet up and make something happen. Lots more random house parties. Post-college in a big city, it's more about initiative. You don't meet new people on a regular cadence like in school, so you have to make your own opportunities. | /r/seduction | 28/10/15 07:17 AM |
| 7 | I love seddit, but...Reading this and your username, I'm getting a concern-troll sort of vibe. Words like "manipulation" just cloud the discussion and distract from the real lesson. It's not manipulation any more than makeup is. It's making oneself attractive as a man. A lot of men aren't raised to be charismatic or seductive in the way they need to be to have some control over their love lives. So places like this subreddit allow us to make up for some of that missed time. It doesn't help that social forces are dis… | /r/seduction | 14/10/15 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Should I tell her I'm a virgin?Well I think it comes down to the mindset. I feel like it's better to err on the side of dominant and a little selfish (if you're the sort of guy that's usually too comforting). I used to go down on girls whenever possible with this feeling of like "if I don't get them off too, they'll be disappointed and look elsewhere", but that's a bad mindset to go into it with. Sorta needy. I agree you should usually seek to get her off too, but sometimes they're okay just making you happy. | /r/seduction | 09/10/15 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Should I tell her I'm a virgin?as long as she (and lastly, you) is satisfied afterwards Arguably, this priority should be reversed. Or at least equalized. | /r/seduction | 08/10/15 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Should I tell her I'm a virgin?I was 25 when I dealt with this and my advice is don't mention it. I didn't and things went pretty well. I think she was honestly more self-conscious than me and said that it had been a long time for her, so I basically just agreed and said "same". It wasn't until the next time, when she brought up cleanliness in regards to STDs, that I told her and... well that just got her more fired up and excited. So she might have been understanding if I'd told her the first time, but it didn't matter and n… | /r/seduction | 08/10/15 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Don't be shy, don't try and hide your intentionsYou're setting up a false dichotomy. These terms are just for breaking down and understanding the interaction and so we can have a shared vocabulary when talking about it. Each man's mental schema regarding women is his own bag; we don't need to hem and haw over terminology to assuage vague, unfounded fears over "dehumanization". | /r/seduction | 02/10/15 11:05 PM |
| 2 | How do I get over this fear of "being a pig"?I feel like you're being weighed down by a sort of "male guilt". Some men in the past have done things that make them seem like "pigs" and you feel responsible for that, as a fellow man. So you hold yourself to a higher standard, but that's unfair. The failings of other men are not your fault and it's not on you to make amends for that. I think in some ways "being a pig" is a necessary part of the process. We have to fuck up a bunch and calibrate, then try again over and over until we figure thi… | /r/seduction | 13/09/15 08:22 PM |
| 2 | [24F]I decided I will take the iniciative and start approaching guys and making the first move in bars/clubs. What would be a good opening line?Guys are pretty visual, so if you look decent, it's as easy as introducing yourself and asking questions about him. What do you do, where are you from, etc. Have a little fun, joke around, tease. Most guys aren't the approachee, so we like the bit of validation, even if it doesn't go anywhere. If he's into it, he'll hopefully get the hint and take the lead from there (hitting the dance floor, drinks, venue change, whatever), but if he's not, bow out gracefully. That's just the reality of making … | /r/seduction | 09/09/15 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Do what you love and they will followLong distance was either not proposed or--in one case--came with unfair expectations and the implication of continued drama that I had no desire to engage in. Regardless, I'm not really a fan of the LD, unless there's a clear intent to get back into the same town asap. My point with the analogy was to illustrate how letting your frame be controlled by external forces is bad for you. Or at least it was bad for me. Both in work and dating. My ego got too wrapped up in how well I could pull girls o… | /r/seduction | 01/09/15 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Do what you love and they will followThey don't all do that. One lasted ten months. Another, four. A couple went just a month or so. One in particular has been an on again, off again sort of thing that spans years, but it's a long story. Hoping it doesn't come back for a sequel. But the duration isn't really important, it's the meaningless ways in which they can end. There's no such thing as investing in a relationship; they can end unceremoniously at any time, no matter how well you think you handled it. So it's just a string of t… | /r/seduction | 01/09/15 09:15 AM |
| 2 | Do what you love and they will followThis rings really true to me. I'm 27 as well and I'm coming to the same conclusions. But the key is you really, truly have to stop needing it so bad. This: If girls and sex didn't exist, what would I be doing? is key. You have to get to the point where you truly, experientially understand that another relationship won't lead to real happiness. I had to go through a fair bit of heartbreak to finally realize that trying to game wasn't making me happy. It was making me cynical and bitter. Getting i… | /r/seduction | 01/09/15 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything.My understanding of TRP is that it mainly reveals certain realities about love, dating, and mating that we either willfully or ignorantly obfuscate and deny, usually to the (ostensible) benefit of women. Much like /r/seduction tries to streamline the process with techniques and lifestyle advice, TRP (ideally) tries to understand the underlying mechanics of that. (i.e. seduction will explain shit tests and how to pass them, TRP explores why shit tests happen fundamentally, what passing entails an… | /r/seduction | 24/08/15 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything.I agree with you... now. I'm in a place now where that kind of negativity is doing more harm than good. But two or three years ago I came across Patrice O'Neal's Black Phillip show, which although it wasn't really labeled as "red pill", was definitely barking up that same tree and if it weren't for that, I would have never broken out of my cycle of relationship self-sabotage where I couldn't even bring myself to have sex with a girl because of all my hangups. That negative shit, and the other RP… | /r/seduction | 24/08/15 02:56 AM |
| 3 | Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything.y'know, you're not far off, but I think part of the TRP stuff is understanding why someone becomes an emotional trainwreck under these conditions and then fixing that. I'd argue that a lot of stuff with /r/seduction can lead to the same loop of turning back into a doormat if you don't solve the underlying emotional dependency. There's a lot of anger and bitterness in red pill discussions, but that's because anger and bitterness are great motivators for typing big reddit posts. The end goal is to… | /r/seduction | 24/08/15 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Stop Worrying That Everyone's Having More Sex Than YouI know how you feel. You look at women like, "they just have to show up and look pretty, while I have to put on a whole goddamn charismatic production just to keep them from nexting me out of boredom in 5 minutes". You feel like you're a decent man who's put his life together and you're told that's the bare minimum. Imagine it. Just being yourself, who you were raised to be and feeling like it'll never be enough. Having to hack away at whatever romantic disposition you may have once had just to … | /r/seduction | 12/08/15 07:32 AM |
| 5 | All you kids out there under 18. Stop reading this subreddit and go out and play.I know what you're saying, but part of me wishes I'd found this stuff in high school and I could have gotten all the tricks and lines and routines out of my system earlier. I could have dealt with the crashing and burning and rejection and had some kind of foundation for going into college. There's something to be said for going through this stuff yourself and experiencing what works and what doesn't, rather than listening to some other person's idea of what to do. Because here I am finally gett… | /r/seduction | 29/07/15 11:33 PM |
| 11 | Afraid to be in a relationshipI had this problem. For me, it was like a fear that if I went too far without being totally sure about her, I'd risk hurting her more when I eventually ended it. Of course the problem with that is that you can never know in a week or two how things will go, so that mindset causes even the smallest doubt to balloon out of proportion. So it was a weird problem of being like... selfishly kind, if that makes any sense. Like a failsafe to keep you from being a "bad guy". At least for me. It was basic… | /r/seduction | 11/03/15 11:48 AM |
| 5 | Why are many of us afraid of women?I think in those other situations, you know what to do and you just execute: play a song, recite the speech, read the script, etc. The presence of a crowd rarely affects what you have to do. With girls, it's a constant back and forth and you're highly aware of how they're reacting. It's also different every time, so even if you could Groundhog Day your way through a perfect conversation, it wouldn't apply to the next girl. And like MetalPUA said, we don't often have the upbringing to guide us, s… | /r/seduction | 08/02/15 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Im troubled, I have a question I cant ask anywhere else really...I think part of becoming a man is understanding and accepting that it won't ever be like the rosy fantasies you had growing up. It's important to stay positive and somewhat romantic, but chasing that state of idealized, equal, unconditional love is a fool's errand. Women and men love differently. You have to take on the world as it is, not how you wish it to be. It's a bummer because we'd all love to have it a bit easier, but there's no participation prize in this game, unfortunately. Or maybe f… | /r/seduction | 24/12/14 11:38 AM |
| 4 | Girls think I'm a player but...I don't want to be 'trapped' in something I can't get out of if they know I'm serious. This hits home with me. This problem was really hounding me before I finally got into an actual relationship (which eventually ended, but c'est la vie). To solve it, I had to convince myself that I could stop whenever I wanted. I was always worried about a point of no return in a relationship and I finally convinced myself that there was no such point. I could always leave, at the drop of a hat, and never look… | /r/seduction | 06/11/14 04:36 AM |
| 9 | Something a Female Friend Told MeExactly. People keep parroting the idea that it's simply a "social construct" that men make the first move, as if the only reason we do it that way is because of tradition or the "patriarchy" or something. Some cursory research and common sense reveal how our psychology and social conventions stem from and support our biological imperatives. Current gender politics are so skewed these days because of the willful disregard of that reality. | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 03:18 AM |
| 1 | "I'm thinking about all the conquests you've had in this bed."I don't mean that I can't treat her different at all, but I can't treat her manipulatively Running game is not manipulative. As the name suggests, it's like playing with each other. Girls want men who can verbally spar a bit. A guy that just answers questions at face value all the time will quickly bore them, especially in a bar or club setting. And that's really what "passing" a shit test is about. Reading these past comments, you seem to think that passing is some form of lying, like you're no… | /r/seduction | 05/10/14 10:20 PM |
| 1 | "I'm thinking about all the conquests you've had in this bed."Cool, so here's some meat to dig into. i don't think -- and perhaps you'll disagree with me here -- that women do it intentionally Agreed, and it's unconscious more often than not. I don't think holding a purse would necessarily count as a shit test, but it sounds like your point is that you shouldn't treat a woman you're attracted to differently than anyone else, as that would be abusive or manipulative. That's so completely wrong though. We treat lots of people differently based on how we want… | /r/seduction | 05/10/14 01:52 PM |
| 2 | "I'm thinking about all the conquests you've had in this bed."What I do is knowing people [...] I don't change my behavior to get it to happen Sweet, then that's your strategy, more power to you. But some guys want to go out and have fun with the goal of picking up chicks. None of this is mind control, it's just learning how to be more charismatic and sexually forward. If that's not your thing, don't feel like anyone's forcing it to be. patent trolling company What does pickup and game have to do with patent trolling? You're throwing out analogies left and… | /r/seduction | 05/10/14 04:32 AM |
| 2 | "I'm thinking about all the conquests you've had in this bed."It's not "playing games" and the connotations therein. When a man wants to be with a woman, he acts a certain way to facilitate that. That's his strategy, his game. Sometimes it's conscious, sometimes less so. The whole point of learning proper game/seduction is to make those behaviors more successful if you've been struggling. As for your moralizing, it's up to each person to decide how to apply the lessons here. There's nothing inherently immoral about casual hookups, and certainly nothing on … | /r/seduction | 05/10/14 03:46 AM |
| 4 | "I'm thinking about all the conquests you've had in this bed."Everyone is using some kind of game. Even the "just be yourself" guys are running a kind of nice-guy game. But what matters is what works, not what sounds good idealistically. What you're saying here is the real shit test. Because the guys that fall for it reveal themselves as the chumps they are. Of course girls say they want guys to be themselves, makes it easier to spot the naturals. | /r/seduction | 05/10/14 01:23 AM |
| 3 | Date brings friend along with her, has this happened to anyone else?That's awkward, but if you like her, just go and see what happens. You might get a funny story out of it. If something like that happened to me though, I wouldn't have very high hopes. I don't like entertaining some girl's dating paranoia. Don't know if it's the media or bad past experiences, but whatever made her stop trusting guys isn't my problem. | /r/seduction | 04/10/14 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Quitting the gameI know exactly how you feel, man. Going through it myself. I'm 26 and out of college, so I may not be experiencing the same things, but to be honest, it's brutal going out week after week and getting so little in return. Numbers, but no response. A makeout, but then a flake. A first date here and there, but nothing more. It wears on you because all you want is a few normal conversations and a few dates. You're not even afraid to approach anymore, it just never goes anywhere. So I can't say I bla… | /r/seduction | 02/10/14 12:50 AM |
| 1 | What Makes People Boring?On the flip side, expecting entertainment can be a good mindset with girls, if it means you're qualifying them. Trying to be entertaining can be both tiresome and needy. | /r/seduction | 30/09/14 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Four years of practice, here's what I've learnedRegarding open immediately vs. scouting, I think that might depend on the venue. Some places are pretty big, so you might scout naturally on the way to the bar. I think lingering is the real killer, where you see three or four dudes side-by-side on the periphery of some group of girls. They're in some limbo of neither approaching, nor engaging each other. | /r/seduction | 11/09/14 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Four years of practice, here's what I've learnedSee if you can meet like-minded dudes at your favorite spots. I agree it can be tough though. Guys that need this the most are usually surrounded by people that would balk at the idea of going out to run Game. Took me years before I stumbled on the right group. | /r/seduction | 11/09/14 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Four years of practice, here's what I've learnedGood tips. A couple questions: What do you do when you lose the drive some nights? I had a night last weekend where I was feeling really cynical about it all. You know, that sour feeling where you feel like every approach is just an attempt to entertain some chick who can barely be bothered to put any effort into the interaction... is there a fun mental trick to play, maybe setting a different goal? At that point, I don't even care about the close, I just want to figure out how to entertain myse… | /r/seduction | 11/09/14 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Guys who went from bad, to good with holding conversations, tell us how you did it.Get a friend or two who go out and chat girls up and go with them. Every night you go, try to talk to people, either at the bar, near the pool table, in the smoking area, anywhere really. It doesn't matter what you say or how long you say it, just try to chat. It'll feel awkward at first, but worst case scenario is they get bored and walk away. I had one girl give me the talk-to-the-hand thing on a crowded dance floor, but almost every other interaction has been--at worst--polite and agreeable. … | /r/seduction | 10/08/14 01:16 AM |
| 2 | New here. I have a question on WHERE to meet women.Find someone you get along with who already goes out for pickup and see if you can come along. Maybe a coworker or some other friend. Be ready to approach though, so the guys will keep inviting you out. Bars are common spots and you may have to go anyway. Drink or don't, just don't make a big deal out of it. Still, it might not be a bad idea to develop some working knowledge of liquor and beer. That's just one of the realities of 20-something socialization. You may have a very serious reason to … | /r/seduction | 02/08/14 11:08 PM |
| 2 | How to proceed after a flake with a potential 2nd date?Don't sweat it yet. She's already accepted an offer to reschedule, so you're probably fine. Just pick the new time and make it happen. You should probably have some other girls in your sights too so you don't get too hung up on just one. | /r/seduction | 23/06/14 12:35 AM |
| 3 | I've done over 100 approaches in 2 years and here's what I've learnedBe fit, be well-dressed. It does matter on some level, like I think some girls are more receptive at first based on looks, but your demeanor and how it makes her feel is way more important. I approached a girl in a bar last Friday, had a fun chat, got her number and made plans to meet up Wednesday. But when we met, it was daytime, the vibe was lost, barely any rapport. I looked the same both times, just different color pants and shirt, but it was totally different the second time because my game… | /r/seduction | 14/06/14 01:01 PM |
| 3 | Not a seduction question, but when I see a really pretty girl, I don't fantasize about "banging" her. I crave other forms of intimacy.You like what you like. But your friends like what they like. Your desire to cuddle is not more noble than their desires, it's not more correct, and it's usually not attractive. Don't fall for the current cultural narrative that's trying to pathologize male sexual desire. If you're a gentler soul, that's your deal, but it's not because you're fearlessly bucking "gender norms" that your friends are afraid to challenge. | /r/seduction | 05/06/14 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the most intelligent women require more than just game?We're all playing the Game, the question is how well we play. If something you're doing isn't working on smart girls, try something else. It's still part of the game though. | /r/seduction | 25/05/14 01:46 AM |
| 1 | So a guy used pick up techniques on me last night...I'd say society reinforces the idea of being the pursued and not the pursuer, but it didn't create it. That was our biology. We have differing, but complementary sexual strategies that require men to try as often as possible and for women to screen guys thoroughly. That's not to say that women can't or shouldn't approach, but given that confidence is so attractive in men, it makes perfect sense that women rely more on subtle cues to encourage a man to approach rather than approaching him. That's… | /r/seduction | 23/05/14 01:46 AM |
| 5 | So a guy used pick up techniques on me last night...That, and it's often discouraged to newcomers who still have a flowers and chocolate mindset. Coffee is cheap though so no harm in offering. | /r/seduction | 23/05/14 01:26 AM |
| 10 | So a guy used pick up techniques on me last night...I've always found that line of thought to be very condescending. It makes women out to be these poor weak-willed victims of mind control or something. | /r/seduction | 23/05/14 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Popular responses to a girl calling you buddy?Depends on the context. If you were coming onto her and she awkwardly defused it by calling you buddy, she might be trying to let you down easy. But if she's still flirty and just happens to say "buddy" a lot, roll with it. I know a girl that says it all the time, even to her boyfriend before they started dating. | /r/seduction | 23/04/14 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Any older virgins successfully turned it around?Just gonna chime in late here. I was 25. I had a lot of opportunities before then and messed it up by having the wrong mindset: thinking it wasn't gentlemanly of me or worried it meant a big commitment. What turned it around was meeting an awesome girl online, taking her on a few dates and just doing it on the third without a huge ceremony or hullabaloo. The fact that she had a rockin' bod really helped too. Like best boobs I've ever been with. Ahem. But really, she wanted to do it just as much.… | /r/seduction | 08/04/14 08:37 AM |
| 8 | Got a Girlfriend now thanks to seddit.. next steps?There's lots of stuff on relationship game out there. I think the big note is to maintain your frame and don't become a different guy than the one she fell for. If you got her with a cocky devil-may-care attitude, don't suddenly start seeking approval for everything and being super complimentary. | /r/seduction | 24/03/14 01:11 PM |
| 1 | PUA coach talks about his classes, defends himself against panel of critics. How do you think he did?She clearly had an axe to grind. The guy was pretty forthcoming and non-reactive though, which was nice. Still, I hate over-sanitizing pickup just to counter-act these crazy arguments. That's why we see so much talk like "it's about self-improvement and becoming a better person, blah de blah". Yes, it is. But it's also about meeting women and having sex. Toastmasters will teach you how to talk confidently, this is about getting some, damn. | /r/seduction | 21/03/14 09:58 PM |
| 1 | What is the difference between persistence and neediness?A needy guy seeks her approval and bases his interactions in how it pleases her, rather than doing what he wants and inviting her in. Usually the needy guy is trying too hard and she can tell, like he's exaggerating his enthusiasm and waiting for her reaction. A non-needy guy being persistent means he's not "next-ing" her just because she's not super responsive to his initial approach. He adjusts, tries again, keeps the energy up. He doesn't move on so quickly that it's like he's trying to prote… | /r/seduction | 21/03/14 08:40 AM |
| 1 | What is the difference between persistence and neediness?Persistence is just not quitting too soon. Obviously when a girl rejects you, you move on. That's not what persistence is about. It's for that time when you open and she's kinda cold; you don't just give up immediately, you keep going. It's not misogyny or thinking you know what she wants, it's knowing what you want and not shying away as soon as things aren't going perfectly. Goddamn, let's not sling "misogyny" around like were on Tumblr. | /r/seduction | 21/03/14 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Five numbers in one night with this one weird trick!You have to start the improvement somewhere. Tricks, if they work, are about emulating the words and actions of successful guys. Once you get more success, the real confidence arises naturally. | /r/seduction | 18/03/14 03:09 PM |
| 1 | What I've learned from fucking girls I met on TinderMen go through phases with it. I think you have to look past the exact wording or even the notion of labeling oneself as "red pill" and decide where the principles hold up and where they don't. Some of it helped me get laid and maintain the longest relationship in my life so far. Some of it just made me over-analyze shit and become less fun. Kind of a mixed bag, but I think I'm better off than before. | /r/seduction | 14/03/14 02:25 AM |
| 3 | My experience with TinderI had one bot try to get me to some cam site. Probably hoping lure guys in with cute pics and flattery so they'll pay for access. | /r/seduction | 01/03/14 09:40 PM |
| 1 | My 6 month journey and how I've changedTo be fair, anything that works on women can be thought of as Game. Yeah, sometimes it happens organically, but it should all be the same principles. | /r/seduction | 01/03/14 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Your take on the 'blind date' style encounters that Tinder-type apps lead to.Only just started using it after having a relationship end recently. I like that messaging doesn't happen until after you've already selected each other so you don't waste time, but the total lack of any real info is awkward. I've received a couple quick hey's or smiley faces, but when I say hey back, nothing else happens. I probably need to think of some generalized text conversation starters for those situations, but I'm drawing a blank. Oh and beware the camwhore bot accounts. | /r/seduction | 24/02/14 08:13 PM |
| 2 | 26 YO Virgin, new to game, fear of escalating / closing.I had the same problem for the longest time. I was 25 before I made it happen for real. It was textbook: third date, my place, sex, done. I didn't tell her I was a virgin and you know what? I don't think she noticed. She was way more preoccupied with her own performance and it wasn't until things were heating up on the next date that I told her. At that point, it just got her more into it. So finding the right girl helps, but don't worry so much about your performance. She'll probably be more se… | /r/seduction | 11/02/14 07:30 PM |
| 1 | When a girl says noLook at her, smirk and raise an eyebrow or joke and say like, "my enormous ego" or something or Gloss over or ignore the question and continue the conversation. There's not much to be gained from taking it seriously. If she's asking it playfully, then she'll want a playful answer. If she asking with a serious face, you probably already fucked up. | /r/seduction | 29/01/14 10:35 AM |
| 5 | When a girl says noThe problem is we give strangers more credit than they deserve and care more about what they want than what we want. Too self-deprecating, too appeasing, too apologetic. This whole sub is about getting our lives together and honing our skills to make life better for women we don't even know yet, but we still act like we don't deserve a thing. What makes her so special? All she had to do was look pretty and show up*. Meanwhile, we're all worried about being gainfully employed, well-traveled, skil… | /r/seduction | 29/01/14 10:19 AM |
| 3 | It really is a Numbers GameI wouldn't be surprised if it helps in some way, to be honest. | /r/seduction | 17/01/14 10:21 PM |
| 3 | An evolutionary biology approach to eliminating approach anxietyA lot of this falls under the purview of evolutionary psychology, which applies to nearly all of seduction and inter-gender relations. I think most of our "gender norms" stem from this in some way. That said, I think women have much stronger rejection anxiety than men do, which is why society has evolved such that men always have to approach. That may be true, but the heart of it is actually that women are more valuable in an evolutionary sense and also incur greater risks from their investment … | /r/seduction | 28/11/13 09:45 AM |
| 12 | Why women lose the dating gameProbably a good way to think about it. Articles like this generalize, as you rightly point out, and set the parameters of the conflict being reported. In this case, it's men who were shunned in their 20s, but find success in their 30s and women who stayed single until later and find themselves wishing they hadn't. That of course ignores large groups of people like those who happily settled down early in life, those who settled and greatly regret it, or people like yourself who are more intereste… | /r/seduction | 26/10/13 12:14 AM |
| 2 | 19 Surprisingly Hot Things Guys Do Without Realizing ItI find it interesting that just about every entry not involving sex could apply to this girl's father. A negative person would think she's immature, but I think she's responding pretty naturally here. A lot of being an "ideal" man is being very dad-like: confident, secure, in-charge, supportive, a little larger-than-life. I dunno, I think there's something there. | /r/seduction | 14/10/13 08:54 AM |
| 11 | The super-romantic game (or) How I started being really confidentI feel like I've seen a comedy sketch along these lines. | /r/seduction | 28/09/13 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Why women give bad dating adviceAnd treating well and being effective aren't mutually exclusive, there just happens to be some bad treatment that also works. The key is in distinguishing between good treatment that is attractive and "good" treatment that's just nice or supplicating | /r/seduction | 13/09/13 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Some of you will hate me, but this is how I defeated my AAThere's nothing offensive about having preferences. Don't let someone's insecurities guilt you into thinking there is. | /r/seduction | 12/09/13 03:11 AM |
| 2 | Some of you will hate me, but this is how I defeated my AAI would firstly like to state that I have no intention of defining beauty or attractiveness in this post. Everyone is beautiful and unique in their own way [...] I really am sorry, I really don't mean to offend anyone with this advice. I mentioned earlier that I by no means aim to define what attractiveness is This is an aside, since I agree that practice is best, but... no need to bend over backwards like this. Your post didn't even try to objectively define beauty, so I don't know why these di… | /r/seduction | 12/09/13 02:00 AM |
| 8 | Do you guys love these girls?Just like we usually desire multiple women, girls desire "better" guys. Just some evolutionary hard-wiring we all deal with. Don't worry too much about it, just try to be her best option. Alpha, non-needy, outcome-independent, whatever you want to call it. | /r/seduction | 31/08/13 03:14 AM |
| 7 | Stop with the bullshit.Everyone has different sexual strategies. Girls do their own deceptive things too, they're not angels in all of this. But no, I don't think we should tell men to be dicks. We should be better at explaining exactly why being a dick works and let people do as they will. | /r/seduction | 31/08/13 03:04 AM |
| 7 | Stop with the bullshit.I'd say there's a big difference between being a bit of a dick so that an insecure girl will like you and criminal assault with a firearm. The line is definitely somewhere in the middle. | /r/seduction | 31/08/13 01:55 AM |
| 5 | Stop with the bullshit.Oh right, the absurd straw-man. Why do so many people flippantly equate seduction to rape? | /r/seduction | 30/08/13 10:40 PM |
| 6 | "Fake it 'till you make it". How legitimate is this advice?"Fake it 'til you make it" is just another way of saying "practice". Practice being confident until you can do it with ease. Practice being a good conversationalist until you actually are. When you learn an instrument, you're kind of faking it at first. You read the music and sit in the right position and carry around your case, but as soon as you play people realize you're a noob. Eventually they can't tell. | /r/seduction | 30/08/13 10:18 PM |
| 2 | I just don't really care about girls anymore...?Yeah, that makes sense, but I guess it just struck me as a non sequitur for this sub. He states that he has no interest in girls or seducing them and that he's "perfectly fine" with that. He doesn't ask for advice or even if anyone else feels this way (although I suppose you could infer the latter). I guess it's an interesting prompt for a general discussion about motivation and the role of seduction in a fulfilling life, though. There's potentially a side concern here (though I'm reaching a bit… | /r/seduction | 02/08/13 12:59 AM |
| 6 | I just don't really care about girls anymore...?You say you're fine with this state of affairs, but you're here asking for advice. If it truly doesn't bother you, then it seems that this sub would have nothing of value to offer you. My gut says that you posting here means that on some level, you want to be with women, but are perhaps struggling with motivation in the face of your schoolwork. I'd say either finish school and get back into all of this later, or own up about what's going on and address it. Maybe reach out to some new groups and … | /r/seduction | 01/08/13 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Models by Mark Manson is blowing my fucking mindWhy was that idea removed? | /r/seduction | 31/07/13 03:23 AM |
| 17 | Models by Mark Manson is blowing my fucking mindToo many questions can seem a bit interview-y. Mix it up by guessing about her instead. "You look like you go to..." "I bet you're the type that..." Stuff like that. | /r/seduction | 31/07/13 03:08 AM |
| 12 | Is there a paradox in learning seduction?I feel like I'm seeing that subreddit pop up more and more lately in other subs. I was in and out of there for a while recently when I was trying to work through some stuff. If you filter out all the bitterness and look past the (probably overused) Matrix metaphors, red-pill stuff is mostly about ridding yourself of bullshit you've accumulated in your mind over the years. A lot of guys (myself included) have been hearing the same tired platitudes their whole life about appealing to women: just b… | /r/seduction | 29/07/13 05:37 AM |
| 11 | Do you always have to be the one setting up a date? While texting, can you put the responsibility on the girl?Good point. You can't really get caught up in her side of things. Whether she's busy or just bullshitting, that shouldn't really affect how you handle it. I had a similar situation with a lot of initial interest, her initiating, offering her number, but the opposite happened and it just sorta faded away. What she does is out of your control, gotta keep cool either way. | /r/seduction | 19/07/13 06:35 AM |
| 0 | Is the "strong silent type" just a hollywood trope? How does a man attract by simply being comfortably handsome in a corner and grunting a suave comment once and while?I think part of the allure there comes from the fact that the guy is genuinely not needy or thirsty. That mindset likely comes from previous successes and steady dates, encounters, etc. But even that guy probably didn't start that way. He had to put in the leg work just like everyone else. So yeah, it's a real thing, but I don't think it's an affectation, nor would I ever suggest it as a viable strategy for a guy still learning. The last thing you'd want is to stand around in a bar or club, thin… | /r/seduction | 17/06/13 06:21 PM |
| 13 | You often need less game than you think.The entire sub is about answering that | /r/seduction | 04/06/13 01:19 AM |
| 2 | I fall in love too easily :(I think the main takeaway is the abundance mentality. There's a correlation between your options, your behavior when you know your options, and how into you she is. Having options means other girls want you. Other girls wanting you makes you even more attractive. Naturally, the most genuine way to act like a man with options is to actually have them, but I think you can internalize that mindset to a degree without having to date more than one girl at a time. | /r/seduction | 23/05/13 01:54 AM |
| 3 | Motorcycles. Try one.This happened to me 2 or 3 times in a year. It wasn't common. And it was just comments like "can I catch a ride?" yelled from a passenger seat in a car. Nothing serious. That's my point, you can't just buy a bike and walk around in a motorcycle jacket and expect great things. | /r/seduction | 08/05/13 08:50 PM |
| 7 | Motorcycles. Try one.I'll second this. I had a bike for over a year and despite a few flirty comments from girls in parking lots and one engaged (therefore not an option) friend being really into it, It was a never like how the OP described. I had to stop after I totaled the bike in an accident. The settlement's nice, but the injuries could have been a lot worse. Don't get me wrong, I loved my time on that thing. The idea that "chicks dig it" was certainly a part of my decision, but being real with myself, I needed … | /r/seduction | 08/05/13 07:07 PM |
| 1 | My friends held a small intervention to get me out of the game! How do I explain it to them!?I've experienced this somewhat. I think the best choice is to go around them. I started to resent my friends at one point because they all either dismissed any notions of Game or had no desire to try it, so it felt like pulling teeth to get anyone out to practice. However, I've met some like-minded folks through Meetup, so I've expanded my circle a bit and don't feel as trapped. I still sometimes blather about Game or inter-gender dynamics if I get drunk with them, but whatever, they'll just hav… | /r/seduction | 20/04/13 03:30 AM |
| 1 | 19 year old college student, never been kissed, looking for adviceYou don't usually want to just come out and say you're attracted unless you have no doubt they feel the same way. Step 1 is to get in shape. This isn't about conforming to beauty standar-blah blah blah whatever. Getting in shape will make you more confident and women will respond better. It won't happen overnight. You'll have to commit to a workout schedule that you'll hate at first and you'll have to eat less food, which will kinda suck. Just do it for yourself though. You may say you're not at… | /r/seduction | 20/04/13 03:22 AM |
| 3 | Please don't quit seduction because you get in a relationship.I wonder about this actually. I've been following /r/seduction and various other game blogs for a while, practicing when I can, but I'm seeing a girl now who's... pretty much the best chick I've met. We haven't had any exclusivity talk or anything, but I'm not seeing any reason to keep looking, TBH. From everything I've read, I've been expecting a bunch of shit tests and having to establish dominance and shit, but... I dunno, maybe with some girls you can just run mild game and not have to const… | /r/seduction | 20/04/13 02:53 AM |
| 4 | How do you handle chatterboxes?I'm dating someone very talkative, but I welcome it. It's really a load off my mind, not having to carry every conversation on my own. I went on a date with a girl a couple months back that was like the opposite. I had to pull each and every thread of conversation and it was really just a chore. That said, one option is to take the Patrice O'Neal route and just not stand for any of it, call her out when she's being vapid or uninteresting (either directly or by poking fun at her). It's ultimately… | /r/seduction | 17/04/13 09:01 PM |
| 6 | Went in for the kiss with a girl I have known for a while. Rejected....but, I feel OKcognitive dissidence it's actually "dissonance", but great comment anyway | /r/seduction | 16/04/13 10:23 PM |
| 4 | Seddit, stop being judgmental.that mentality is rampant Are you referring to the straw man he's lampooning in his comment or something else? Because yeah, it's ridiculous and funny when you all-caps a bunch of pickup jargon and mash it into one sentence, like some kind of /r/circlejerk commenter. But your response made it seem like jargon-spewing douchebags are the norm here, when they're not. | /r/seduction | 17/02/13 12:16 PM |
| 4 | Seddit, stop being judgmental.seems like the only time I see that is when it's done in jest like this, but maybe I don't spend enough time here to see it. Fighting idiocy is one thing, but we shouldn't fight manliness. | /r/seduction | 17/02/13 08:30 AM |
| 1 | A list of fun, useful "social games"I'm adjusting it for how I do it, yes. That demonstrates that the basic idea--looking people in the eye instead of looking away--is sound. You're getting caught up in your own knee-jerk reaction to the OP instead of considering how it can be helpful. Imagine you're someone who's shy and always looks away as soon as you make eye contact. You want to learn to talk to women, yes, but it helps to take small steps: walking with your head up, no slouching, and yeah practicing with eye contact. All of … | /r/seduction | 12/02/13 08:25 PM |
| 5 | A list of fun, useful "social games"I'll play this pedantic game (and by the way, good job ignoring the important bit): I didn't omit anything. I addressed that when I said "If they don't look away on their own, just nod and smile". Meaning you hold eye contact until they break it off. If they haven't, just nod and by then, you've probably already walked past them. And my "argument" is meant to help you (or any poor soul that has your mindset), but if you're determined to conflate harmless social actions with sexual harassment, th… | /r/seduction | 12/02/13 01:47 AM |
| 3 | A list of fun, useful "social games"Get closer to the other people than you normally would (but not quite invading their personal space) ... Every time you’re in the elevator with someone else, make some remark. Why do you read that and get "awkward creeper"? I read that and it sounds like a comfortable dude who can small talk and be casual. Are you projecting your own insecurities on the situation? (hint: yes) Make an attempt at eye contact with every stranger you pass by all day Again, it's eye contact, you're not glaring. If th… | /r/seduction | 12/02/13 01:20 AM |
| 5 | A list of fun, useful "social games"It's sad that society has scared you into thinking that | /r/seduction | 12/02/13 12:54 AM |
| 2 | A list of fun, useful "social games"Let's all just be so ashamed of ourselves that we can't even look a fellow human being in the eyes. Or talk to them on an elevator. Let's teach ourselves that being outgoing is being creepy. Because everyone is a delicate flower that shouldn't be looked at without permission. If people can't do these basic things, they'll choke when it comes to actually trying to escalate with someone they're into. | /r/seduction | 12/02/13 12:52 AM |
| 1 | So you want to improve yourself... Here are a few tips that I found help me feel better about myself.can you elaborate on the contact lenses suggestion? I've been thinking it might help, but only because I have this vague sense that I might look more natural. Why do you think glasses could be an issue? | /r/seduction | 09/02/13 09:15 PM |
| 2 | How does Reddit feel about hooking up with ex-girlfriends?This is a timely post for me because I recently had an ex get back in touch after 5 years of no real contact. I think you have to be careful about what her motives are and what your goals are. If she's single and your breakup wasn't bad, it's probably okay. Just use what you've learned here and maintain a calm, confident leadership role in the relationship. Better yet, don't even consider yourselves exclusive until she proves herself. If It was a bad breakup or she's involved with another dude, … | /r/seduction | 09/02/13 02:20 AM |
| 1 | How do you remain 'alpha' while in a relationship?What makes a relationship "real" depends on each person. Many men and women find comfort in allowing a natural dominance to occur in a relationship. In fact, pretty much every social group fares better when a hierarchy can be subtly established (I recall reading a study about this, but I'll have to find it again). There's nothing wrong with a man being a leader in a relationship and most women are fundamentally attracted to those that are. | /r/seduction | 07/02/13 07:38 AM |
| 9 | How do you remain 'alpha' while in a relationship?This all the way through. You can't let your own needs and desires fall by the wayside for hers just because she's a woman. Don't fall for all that sitcom crap where a guy has to sneak around and lie just to enjoy himself. That shouldn't be the status quo. | /r/seduction | 07/02/13 07:22 AM |
| 12 | How do you remain 'alpha' while in a relationship?But seduction shouldn't be a trick. If you're doing it right, you're molding yourself into a confident man who's comfortable taking the lead. The reason seduction works is because it helps you bring forward traits that women find innately attractive. Getting into a relationship doesn't mean burying those again. An alpha* frame doesn't just get you the girl, it helps her want to stay. *I think it's important to note that alpha doesn't mean one thing or one type of guy. A criminal can be an alpha,… | /r/seduction | 07/02/13 07:19 AM |
| 5 | I've just started my journey of self-improvement, and now I'm worried that I might regress. Sedditors, please lend me a hand here.Go for it. Don't relapse though. This all still applies, no matter the girl. The game doesn't change. You maintain dominance, you don't fall for shit tests, etc. Even if there's no long-term plans, take it as an opportunity to learn. Hell, you don't even have to be exclusive with her. Unless she asks, you don't have to assume monogamy. | /r/seduction | 05/02/13 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Is seddit even redpill?to be fair, negging is usually a misunderstood straw-man for attacking PUA and a lot of people use it to mean teasing, which isn't quite the same thing. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/02/13 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Recently found this place. What is the opinion on completely removing yourself from the "dating scene"?I feel like I'm in a similar situation, but don't think that being an introverted gamer means you can't improve yourself. All I've ever had in life are short little flings and I'm still woefully bad at going out and approaching. I'm also a gamer (hobby and profession). It's not necessarily easy and I can't say that I'm managing to hold on to every good thing about myself, but if it's something you want to fix in your life, there's a path to do it. Start with better clothes and better fitness. Yo… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/02/13 06:21 PM |
| 3 | [FR] Epic shit test and the value of composureNaw dude, we need some of that around here. Too many white knights trying to water this down. | /r/seduction | 03/02/13 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Games to Play on a First Date? Maybe with some Kino?no no, I get how it could work. But all that playful kino stuff can be initiated in other ways too, and palm-reading would totally clash with my personality (atheist, skeptic, etc). Also, If I have a girl engaged enough to actually play along with palm-reading nonsense, she'll go along with anything else fun, so other things would be a better choice for me. | /r/seduction | 03/02/13 01:49 AM |
| 8 | Games to Play on a First Date? Maybe with some Kino?Palm reading always seemed gimmicky to me, but I guess certain guys might be able to pull it off. | /r/seduction | 01/02/13 10:46 AM |
| 4 | I can ask a girl for directions but I Can't seem to tell her she's cute.Don't tell her she's cute, just small-talk. You're psyching yourself out because you're jumping the gun and thinking you have to go straight for a compliment+number close. | /r/seduction | 01/02/13 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Building rapport/getting to know her between dates.Why doesn't it progress? I'd think a date would be much more potent than a phone conversation at increasing attraction. If it's falling flat on subsequent dates, you might be failing to escalate or something else might be happening. | /r/seduction | 30/01/13 06:44 AM |
| 1 | How do you set the terms of a relationship once you've gamed them? are there methods of keeping distance and attraction without being heartless?Advice I've gotten is to not assume any sort of monogamy unless you've specifically talked about it. See a girl as often as you like, but don't overdo it and keep pursuing other options. As long as she's not expecting exclusivity, there's no problem. I've always gotten a bit hung up on concerns about being exclusive too soon, so I'm trying to avoid letting that trip me up. It's a hard pill to swallow, brought up the way I was. | /r/seduction | 30/01/13 06:37 AM |
| 3 | My transformation. Thank you Seddit.It's not so much staring down as holding eye contact. Most people look away pretty quickly. To those that don't, you can just give a small smile or nod. If it's a girl and she smiles back, that's basically a pass to say hi if you want. | /r/seduction | 30/01/13 06:20 AM |
| 2 | My transformation. Thank you Seddit.A lot of this jives with what has been helping me. I've got the gym schedule pretty solid (3 a week as well) and I'm trying to focus on eye contact and conversation (it's getting easier, slowly but surely). I'm hoping I can keep it up. I've not done particularly bad in the past, I just lack confidence with people I've never met. Can you talk a little about the first time you got back out there? I've been sort of spinning my wheels with going out for the sole purpose of pickup and I'd like to hea… | /r/seduction | 30/01/13 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Are Emoticons Killing My Text Game?It's something I try to keep a close eye on. I very rarely use them and to be honest, I even try to avoid exclamation marks unless absolutely necessary. But no exclamation marks means a lot of periods which can seem a little deadpan. So I will often add a question, which ends up conveying interest, so it works out. It sounds like I think too hard about it, but it's pretty rote at this point. | /r/seduction | 25/01/13 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Why do we never talk about sex, Seddit?I think it's definitely a useful discussion to have more often. I think I even have some hangups about sex that are inadvertently affecting me in my overall game (can probably blame it on my confused Catholic upbringing, but who knows). Having a healthier attitude about it is important. | /r/seduction | 25/01/13 12:54 AM |
| 5 | What are good ways to start a conversation?Assuming you've already opened, just ask about what they do (for a living, as a hobby, whatever). Alternately, you can start with something more relevant to how/where you opened, but what they do is a good if you don't have anything else to pick up on. Then use "nouning" or "threading" to pick up on different things to ask or make comments about. Here's a link about small talk: http://artofmanliness.com/2012/08/22/how-to-make-small-talk/ Here's one about getting past small talk, that covers simi… | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 02:17 AM |
| 1 | If you know a girl likes you, and wants to kiss you, what's a good line to make this happen?I know you probably hear this a lot, but you have to not think so hard about it. I know it sucks to hear that because I get the same advice all the time. But the fact is that every first kiss I've ever had with a girl (except maybe one) has never required a line. It's always happened with my arm(s) around her, our hands intertwined or the two of us otherwise in close contact. I personally don't think you can/should be going in for a kiss unless that's happened. And once it has, you can pretty mu… | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 01:46 AM |
| 2 | If you know a girl likes you, and wants to kiss you, what's a good line to make this happen?I once said "would you judge me if I kissed you?" She said "no" and I did. I probably didn't need to say anything, but I was younger and less experienced then. That was a good night. But yeah, as others have said, just do it. It gets easier each time. That said, this seems better suited to /r/askseddit. | /r/seduction | 20/01/13 09:36 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Online dating is shit test centralI liked it, sounds like it went over pretty well. I'd say just decide the when and where and make it happen. As long as you can drum up the same rapport in person, you'll probably do fine. Compared to my brief foray into OKC, this is great. | /r/seduction | 16/01/13 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Newcomer to the red pill mindset here, could really use some advice. Sorry if it's too long.Yes? Of course. They're just people. If a person is saying something you want to listen to, then listen. If not, don't. Up to you. My apologies, but it just seems like a weird thing to ask. I've read a lot of Rational Male, then started poking around here, so I'm probably not the right person to talk to if you're expecting overly-dominant rhetoric. I'm just here to unlearn some beta stuff that's been holding me back. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/13 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Newcomer to the red pill mindset here, could really use some advice. Sorry if it's too long.I dunno, man. I just went and read the posts you mentioned. There's a fair bit of debate in the comments, so I wouldn't say that advice is clear-cut. That "breaking in" post reads like a man trying to regain control of an LTR (which you are not in with this woman in your post) and that "never listen" post is fraught with issues. For me, the red pill is simply about throwing off limiting beliefs and understanding cases where we've been socialized in favor of women's sexual strategy, thereby allow… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/13 10:29 PM |
| 0 | Newcomer to the red pill mindset here, could really use some advice. Sorry if it's too long.sort of enforces the fact that she can be smart for a woman, but not smart enough to be, say, someone that I would have intelligent conversation with. uh if some otherwise perfect female is into law school or wanting to make her own income, is there a way to get her out of that mindset? I never thought any red pill stuff advised this sort of thing. I understand the concept of maintaining a dominant frame, but you shouldn't be trying to make someone's life worse to do that. All of this is just ab… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/13 03:31 AM |
| 2 | The Dirty Little Secret of Pick-up? 90% of You Will Never Make Any ProgressBut it's not a rule, it's a statistic. For someone just getting into this, believing anyone can do it is helpful to get started, but guys already invested might need a kick in the ass to actually improve. | /r/seduction | 14/01/13 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Is there any good advice for someone who is a senior in high school and never had a girlfriend?I don't know if this would apply to you, but if you do go out with a girl (perhaps one you meet through friends) don't back out too soon. Let yourself be comfortable with not being single for once. My first girlfriend was in my senior year of high school, but because I'd spent most of the previous 7 years learning to be independent and not rely on girls or dating to feel happy or validated, when I finally did have a gf, I didn't really know what to do with myself. I backed out and broke up. I'm … | /r/seduction | 14/01/13 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Is there any good advice for someone who is a senior in high school and never had a girlfriend?also, try not to think of women as special flowers you need to act differently around. | /r/seduction | 14/01/13 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Mormon girls.Would you think this applies to Christians as well? Coincidentally, I recently had a first date with a girl who I later found out is really religious. Escalation went pretty well for a first date, but I've been getting a lot of timid and nervous vibes since then and our rapport is shot. I suspect it's not worth it (especially with me being an atheist), but I figured I'd pull some opinions from Seddit. | /r/seduction | 14/01/13 08:21 AM |
| 19 | I've been reading seddit for 1+ yr. I'm a girl. Some InsightsThe general idea is that what women say they want and what works are often very different. That or guys hear what they say they want and take it the wrong way. Like when a girl says she wants a nice guy, it's not the sort of nice, beta guy we were taught to be by our moms. Overall you'll hear a lot of talk about respect and "being yourself", which can easily lead an inexperienced guy to not escalate and not improve themselves, both of which we now know to be crucial to effective dating/pickup. | /r/seduction | 12/01/13 06:58 PM |
| 1 | "I don't give my number out right away" How do you deal with this and other shit tests?That's taking it a bit far. If a girl's into you, she'll want to give you her number when you ask. If she's hesitating, then you need to build more attraction or should have built more prior to that. And any guy that fails with a technique and thinks "they fucking suck" or are an "idiot" has some major inner game to work on. You can't start hating yourself when your game's not on. | /r/seduction | 07/01/13 11:05 PM |
| 2 | How the conscious decision to be "fun" completely changed my game.Very true. That said, I think some people that I look up to as being more alpha tend to be more consistent with their personality. One guy I'm thinking of is almost always the vocal, fun joker. He talks to women easily, is dating a model, etc. I tend to change more noticeably, based entirely on the sort of person I'm talking to. I'm more timid around timid people, funnier around funny people. I feel like part of being more alpha is about finding more consistency with that. Rather than changing t… | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 11:57 AM |
| 7 | Seddit just hit 100,000 subscribers a few seconds ago. What has been your favourite post ever made here?People who come in, still embedded in their old beta mindset, want to make seduction as palatable to their White Knight code of honor as possible. We've all seen the criticism of Seddit, being called manipulative, disingenuous, and even rapey in the worst cases. Yes, that's usually due to misunderstandings and cherry-picking certain posts, but it creates this backlash where we end up labeling ourselves more as a self-help, confidence boosting group. Yes, a lot of modern seduction is about gettin… | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 11:08 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 1/4/2013 (please upvote - zero karma)Manhattan, up, Blanton's preferably | /r/seduction | 05/01/13 03:05 AM |
| 1 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 1/4/2013 (please upvote - zero karma)I'd say exceptions are those that work in the industry. Then video games are a legit passion and exposing yourself to a lot of them is a solid career choice. You're still responsible for balancing your social life around it though. | /r/seduction | 05/01/13 03:04 AM |
| 16 | [FR] How to pick up waitstaffwell that escalated quickly | /r/seduction | 19/12/12 12:10 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Just started reading about this stuff last week. First attempt.I liked this, your opener seemed really natural. I also like that you're pointing out specific techniques. I'd agree that getting the number before leaving would have been good. Recently, I just got my phone to the contact entry screen and handed it to the girl. Bit of a different situation in my case, but it feels better than asking for it. | /r/seduction | 18/12/12 11:53 PM |
| 2 | How direct is too direct?Sounds like you're negotiating attraction. Can't be done. | /r/seduction | 12/12/12 07:31 PM |
| 2 | [FR] First time Sarging at Eaton Centre MallYeah I really need to find someone who can motivate me like that. My roommate would be a good candidate, but he's all monogamous now and doesn't really go out much. Shouldn't be hard in LA, if I just apply myself. | /r/seduction | 10/12/12 07:25 PM |
| 7 | [xMODx] Seddit Simple Questions Thread 11/30/2012Usually there's tells if a girl likes you. If she's attentive and laughs at your jokes, then she's probably at least somewhat into you and then it's up to you to escalate. If she's not showing any interest at all, then just move on. Be attentive about what you're seeing in her body language when you talk. You don't really need to ask her if she likes you, just ask her out and there's your answer. Under certain circumstances, asking "do you like me" won't ruin things, but it's always better to as… | /r/seduction | 01/12/12 12:57 AM |
| 22 | The best thing you've done to improve your attractiveness? Any other quicktips from you pros that's not game related?So far? Just buying tighter clothes. I finally got some jeans that are a bit more form-fitting and I'm buying t-shirts a size smaller than usual. Mixed with working out, that's what's gotten the most noticeable reactions. | /r/seduction | 26/11/12 06:39 PM |
| 6 | I like /r/seduction, but I don't quite get the "game"Probably a common question, but do you ever worry about the future? I guess I have this image in my head of this eternal bachelor that just games his whole life until he gets too old and feels empty and wishes he'd settled down. Though assuming that's not a concern, any advice on how to frame a relationship so that it stays casual? I always seem to find myself in situations where I back out of a good thing too early because I worry that there's like a point of no return. There's gotta be somethi… | /r/seduction | 02/11/12 03:39 AM |
| 3 | Been at this 10 years, my #1 tip.Less the exchange, more the use of the word "yummier". It's a small point, but yummy is a word I can never use unless I'm being deliberately effeminate for a laugh. | /r/seduction | 28/10/12 12:36 AM |
| 10 | Letting go of college and being my own person?I know the feel man. College went well for me, but I was definitely behind the curve with the ladies. I've just accepted that I started a bit late. Trust me though, college was not your last chance to make this happen. So you missed some beer pong and one-night stands. Did you get the degree you wanted and have you started your career? Even if that's still a work in progress, you're still very young and you can start getting your game in shape right now. You clearly have some confidence issues t… | /r/seduction | 13/10/12 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Is kino absolutely necessary?You don't necessarily need to be hot, but hopefully you're getting yourself to a place where you like how you look. I think being able to look in the mirror and feel good about yourself is an important thing. | /r/seduction | 09/10/12 11:05 PM |
| 1 | I'm beginning to think that logistics is the biggest determiner of if you are going to get laid, anyone else?Going to test this idea as much as possible. I'm a block from a nice bar/karaoke place and without even trying (drunk, no real intentions), I've met girls and led them back. Without getting into my life story, my game has been on hold for a while, but this is a new place, so I can only imagine how it'll go when I actually go in with intent. | /r/seduction | 06/10/12 11:42 AM |
| 3 | "All you ever want to do is have sex!"It's part of why Seddit exists though. The "sexual marketplace" or whatever you want to call it is skewed in women's favor, right? I mean, if Seddit has taught us anything, it's that it's not quite as bad as the AFC thinks, but the role of women as selectors is pretty well understood, otherwise this subreddit would be all about what shit tests to give all the women that hit on us... tl;dr - the key that opens any lock is special, the lock that opens for any key... not so much. | /r/seduction | 04/10/12 12:06 AM |
| 13 | Watched a TED Talk on body language today. Thought it was relevant to seddit.I remember reading about a study a while back that showed a direct two-way link between facial expression and actual emotion. It was about how people whose faces had been botoxed and had lost full expression actually felt emotions less strongly because they couldn't express them physically. These sorts of things really support the "fake it" advice because if acting happy can make you happy, then surely acting confident can do the same. Consider the whole thing reflexive. Whether it starts from i… | /r/seduction | 01/10/12 10:44 PM |
| 2 | All the guys having their first AA problems? This worked for me.Sounds like the right idea. At the end of it all you have a better sense of what you're all about and what you can offer and it's in a way that's unique to you since they're all your stories. I think I'll try this. | /r/seduction | 07/09/12 06:56 PM |
| 3 | 27 year old virgin, finally broke through. here is my storyReally have to agree here. Getting into a meaningful relationship is not just something that happens on accident. At least not for me. There's a host of anxieties and doubts that surface surrounding that sort of thing if you've neglected the hooking-up-with-chicks part of your life. Part of it is needing to know that the girl you invest in is worth it and not just the best you could get at the time. Part of it is simply being comfortable with yourself and being able to open up. I've tried being … | /r/seduction | 04/09/12 05:31 PM |
| 7 | If you want a crash course in life, social skills and confidence... go travel solo for a long period of time.Seriously. I'm not sure how people can be so well traveled unless they got lucky and avoided debt entirely. True, my almost 90k worth of student loans is a bit outrageous, but even with a great job, long trips seems like far-off opportunities. I can't afford to not work AND be traveling for months on end. Even with the money saved up, who's to say my higher-ups would even welcome me back after a 6-month sojourn? I'd likely have to search for another job afterwards with nothing but some conversat… | /r/seduction | 17/07/12 11:36 PM |
| 4 | Where do you guys find 'relationship-type' women?Reddit Enhancement Suite | /r/seduction | 28/06/12 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Whenever a girl becomes interested, I begin becoming unattracted to her, what's wrong with me?Came across this today: http://postmasculine.com/why-its-so-hard Seems highly relevant to our situations. | /r/seduction | 23/06/12 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Whenever a girl becomes interested, I begin becoming unattracted to her, what's wrong with me?Eh varying degrees. Don't ever really go all the way, though everything up to that has happened. I've thought about this a lot because I think it may be tied to some deeply ingrained beliefs or mental states. The only thing I can think is that maybe my parents became too distant as I grew? Like I had a good upbringing, but my parents started having their own problems at one point and most things with relationships I've had to pick up from peers or the media (then had to unlearn most of that anyw… | /r/seduction | 22/06/12 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Whenever a girl becomes interested, I begin becoming unattracted to her, what's wrong with me?This hits close to home for me. I always seem to get about 2 weeks - a month into it and then the will to continue just vacates. There's still that sort of macro desire to make things work, but I lose the attraction for that girl. I figure it's one of two things: 1) I have a fear of commitment or intimacy that pushes my brain into losing attraction and justifying it (a defense mechanism). 2) I'm pickier that I think and I simply didn't like them as much as I initially wanted myself to. Could be … | /r/seduction | 21/06/12 06:14 PM |
| 1 | How to Form RelationshipsI think this is a good thing to internalize. Understanding what we ourselves respond to is a good way to get others to respond. For a shy or introverted person, it's recognizing what others do to bring you out of your shell and then do that for others. It underlines a lot of advice on pickup, since it's all basically doing things to get responses that create attraction. Something that gets in my head too often is this sense that I'm imposing when I consider talking to a random girl, especially w… | /r/seduction | 10/03/12 04:57 AM |
| 1 | I am tired and frustrated. How do I a quick first good impression?You have a skewed view of exercise then. Plenty of people do it to stay healthy or avoid weight gain. If you work inside on a computer all day, for instance, you'll need some kind of workout routine to stay in shape. I work with plenty of CG artists that work out regularly and most of them aren't "testosterone'd shitbags." Attracting women isn't necessarily the main reason to do it, but it's doesn't hurt. | /r/seduction | 27/01/12 02:26 AM |
| 2 | I am tired and frustrated. How do I a quick first good impression?I get this. Expanding your social circle can be troublesome. On the one hand, you have your existing friends and you can't ignore them, especially if you're still relatively new. But then if you meet some new people, you need to put in the time to see them, which takes time from other people, all of which needs to be squeezed into the time you're not working or spending on yourself... | /r/seduction | 27/01/12 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Do you ever feel relationship anxiety?Thanks for your thoughts. I think this reinforces what a friend was saying about all this. You're right that I need to just muscle through it to break the habit. You're also probably right about my over-investment. I care because I want to get things right, but that's probably why I shy away to avoid "failure" in the long run. Wow, it's almost like approach anxiety, except it's just shifted later... | /r/seduction | 08/10/11 12:08 PM |
| 1 | My Motivational Mantrawell, parts of it | /r/seduction | 05/10/11 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Talk to everybody...I need some help with this. I keep telling myself I should converse with the cashiers at the 7-11 on the corner because I'm in there like every day and I'm sure they know my face, but I can never really think of anything to say and can't really find the motivation anyway beyond this assurance that it will benefit me. Then I run into the same problem with the other tenants in my apartment building. I usually just nod and walk on by and I can never even remember to vocalize a greeting. I make that… | /r/seduction | 05/10/11 11:07 AM |
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