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tinytiger4321/r/ExRedPill13/11/15 01:41 PM
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tinytiger4321/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 01:25 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:49 AM
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Question for Feministstinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:33 PM
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CMVtinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:29 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:42 PM
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Question for BluePilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:58 AM
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Anti-MRMtinytiger4321/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:17 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:22 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:08 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:07 AM
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Debatetinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:47 AM
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tinytiger4321/r/ExRedPill09/08/15 07:26 PM
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Sciencetinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:44 AM
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Debatetinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:37 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:01 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 08:56 PM
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Question for BluePilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:47 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:54 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:46 AM
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CMVtinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:53 AM
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CMVtinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:20 AM
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Question for BluePilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:26 AM
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For Mentinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:05 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 12:16 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 06:13 PM
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tinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:07 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:29 PM
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tinytiger4321/r/ExRedPill22/02/16 01:35 AM
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tinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 11:24 PM
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Question for RedPilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:00 PM
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Question for RedPilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:34 AM
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tinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:30 PM
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tinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 05:37 PM
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Debatetinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:14 AM
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Question for BluePilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:18 AM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:27 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:19 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:25 PM
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Question for RedPilltinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:28 PM
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Discussiontinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:15 AM
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Question for Womentinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:28 AM
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tinytiger4321/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:53 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4beug0/cmv_misogyny_comes_in_all_forms_and_many_of_them/ This could have been so good from the title then went to shit (Xemnas alt)
/r/ExRedPill23/03/16 03:19 PM
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Women's affections, respect, social status, resources, an easy life... I'm not denying some men are entitled, just trying to figure out why women can act entitled more often in the modern day. Perhaps it's Scadenfraude?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:23 AM
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will probably be ignored through his 20s and then noticed by an equally nerdy shut-in sometime in his late 20s-early 30s at one of his hobby groups, at which point they'll LTR (but have a risk of deadbedroom or starfish sex). I.e. exactly as RP predicts sorry you've been on the receiving end. Did you follow his advice to be passive in the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:19 AM
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fair enough, makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:06 AM
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`If this is ridiculous to you, why did you even need TRP to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 03:01 AM
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What woman is attracted to the action of leaving and coming home from work? What do you think is sexy about it? Less so now that women can do it themselves but the leadership/authority and ambition implied by someone literally 'getting up and going' I'm looking for a comparable 'masculine' skill which men are attracted to women doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 01:42 AM
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well women going to work should ease off a man's stress, yet why doesn't it turn him on in the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:39 AM
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but surely you've wanted to pork a lad after he made you some bangers and mash? pleasedon'tbeveganpleasedon'tbevegan
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:38 AM
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strong daddy issues itt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:37 AM
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It's an example of a confusing double standard in men's favour regarding gender roles. Cooking is traditionally something women do, working something men do. However, post-feminism, women find cooking and cleaning sexy; so why not the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:27 AM
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I've heard women here say that when they go home from a mad night out, if the dude can cook a mean lasagne, they usually wanna suck his cock
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:20 AM
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But who else phrases 'help with relationships' as 'discussion of sexual strategy'? You know full well that that means TRP or PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:00 AM
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Most women on here do say that their boyfriends laugh at redpillers though, and they probably wouldn't date anyone who browsed TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:42 AM
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Movies? Are movies good? Music? I like going to gigs. Books?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:32 PM
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Movies? Are movies good? Music? I like going to gigs. Books?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:31 PM
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I'm very sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:17 AM
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I don't know how you got that we should not be sympathetic at all. My complaint is that this research has been described using sensationalist language, on a broadsheet (Independent)...and clearly has an intention to highlight women's issues as even more pressing than they already were. This, in the context of the emotional abuse laws in England. This also highlights a trend of 'women have it worse', since the main intention of the article was to show how X (periods) are worse than Y (heart attac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:16 AM
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As I said below, I do sympathise. With that said, if you understand the social context of this 'research' being released, within weeks of the abuse laws…then it becomes concerning how such information being circulated around mainstream liberal press (mostly with inflammatory language intended to at once cause us to sympathise with men and condemn women) could be used against SOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:14 AM
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You're being absolutely ridiculous. You're assuming just because he had a red flair for a bit, he might be a rapist and murderer, therefore literally advocating violence against him. I've no idea why this hasn't been reported yet.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/16 11:56 PM
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Are you for real? You just advocated violence against a person in pain, on a place where he's trying to work through thoughts he acknowledges are toxic.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/16 01:20 AM
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What? Of course I was being sarcastic. Check my flair privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:17 AM
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...you clearly don't see how much yelling there is at guys whining to shut up and step up on TRP do ye
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:19 AM
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Haha :) I didn't know it was popular over the pond?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:17 AM
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She's sympathetic to them when not many BPers are. I should know she's friends with my incel pen pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:14 AM
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Allll the pretentiousness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:01 AM
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Surely though a high EIQ woman is, like a high IQ, according to feminist standards, a more appropriate attractor and mature investment than just a pretty face?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:34 AM
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See exactly. If he goes for a dumb slut, he manipulates her. If he dates a high EI, she's likely to game him. Can't win except not to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:31 AM
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Well high EIQ is not considered a bad thing in the mianstream. It's associated with selflessness, empathy and pro social behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:02 AM
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What? It doesn't say 'HB10s' ot says 'young college age women with high emotional intelligence' The important part.was Emotional Intelligence. You know being good at getting people It makes sense to want to wife an emotionally savvy woman doesn't it? You would think she is better at empathising with you and generally being a good wife/mum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:56 AM
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Emotiinally smart women? Well seems logical to go for someone who understands people well when you have it rammed down your throat that personality matters as much as looks. Nobody said that a good people person was also going to be great at playing head games and using you The stereotype is that hot chicks are dumb, this says the opposite, their intelligence manifests in social form
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:53 AM
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Yeah guys just get it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:51 AM
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U muppet that's clearly a tongue in cheek flair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:50 AM
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right so you agree with the woman arguing that it's hubby's responsibility to make her want to put out, and he should just 'get it' (that she doesn't find him sexually attractive), even if their relationship seems otherwise emotionally strong (i.e. she is still comforting, nurturing, friendly etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:50 AM
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Thanks for pointing this out to them, I should have mentioned this when i noticed 10 hours ago
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:33 AM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:31 AM
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What about the 'Omega to AF' field report on TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:31 AM
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Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:30 AM
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Off topic but (https://m.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/yil3k/is_maslows_heirarchy_of_needs_a_well_grounded/) Edit: Stand corrected. Maslow is an overvalued theory of motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:02 PM
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Relationships involve occasionally making compromises with your needs to meet your partner's needs out of recognition of and empathy for tjose needs. This is bluepill 101
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:53 PM
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Link studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:49 PM
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If your wife stops having sex for you for 3 months when she's neither pregnant nor ill, she's not an idiot, she knows how much men crave sex and associate it with intimacy She's lacking enpathy towards her hubby's needs. She's being a shitty partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:42 PM
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Lmao man you have more empathy about DBs than most people here.. upvotes for talking sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:40 PM
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MOST people? You think most people had fucked up childhoods? Well then surely Nice Guy Syndrome would be so widespread it's practically a mental illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:36 PM
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OP are you saying porn addicts are fucked? In the bad way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:32 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:29 PM
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Potential explanations I had for yoir 1st post As above, ew keep the creeps away from me Entitled men something something misogynistic butthurt whiney losers There are no answers, everyone is different, dehumanising to women to approsch them as monolithic hivemind, misogyny etc. Basically see 1 and 2 (If you are man) Secrets of dark arts women want you to Just Get It don't like betas pretending to be alphas I ask you to explain because I can't read minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:28 PM
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This is attachment style and a widely documented phenomenon in psychodynamic theory
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:24 PM
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Then please explain your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:20 PM
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But it does...you're saying RP is dangerous because it teaches losers to think they have a chance. By extension, all self improvement resources are futile and reject the natural order of social hierarchy...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:19 PM
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Your argument Losers cannot change, TRP is dangerous because it promotes the idea they can My argument You are saying that people born of low status and power cannot change, they are destined to end their lives where they were born. This is against the foundations of post Enlightenment democracy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:13 PM
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You think RP is all about projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:11 PM
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Well then Rollo's article SHOULD say, "Women, by virtue of being female, cannot empathise with the male experience, nor will their hypergamy accommodate for sympathy with a man she seeks to pair bond with. Women can only sympathise with males they regard as children or have disqualified from hypergamic considerations"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:09 PM
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Varies from person to person. Some are altruists, others validation and status seeking, some operate from false virtue, others religious or superstitious fear for their soul, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:06 PM
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No it's related. Prior to the Enlightenment, the world especially the Western world and Western Europe, was governed by beliefs such as The Divine Right if Kings The natural order of God's will (God->Pope/King->Church->Aristocracy/Nobility->[State post c. C16]->Landowner->Peasant->Peasant women/Children/Blacks, Arabs, Muslims, Heretics, etc.->Animals) Predestination (Calvinism) The concept of peasants even having free will rather than being placed in their natural sgation was alien until half a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:05 PM
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This is not well known. A woman devotes her time to helping old people with terminal illness for free. She does not even put ir on social media, only her close friends and family know. Where are the tingles coming from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:58 PM
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So you fundamentally reject meritocracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:56 PM
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Lol. Because losers should know their place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:47 PM
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but the questions are: 1) has this ever made you lose out? 2) have you ever benefited from implementing this advice? 3) have you ever benefited from rejecting this advice? 4) are you a boy or a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:56 PM
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you shouldn't be going on to Tinder to bitch anyway. That's just Monkeysphere theory not AWALT However same rules applied to a 3-year LTR and...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:54 PM
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you ignore the part where I point out a contradiction in the narrative. That's neither empathy nor sympathy Mrs Tomassi shows that's just not giving a shit. The whole thing about sympathy then becomes a red herring Please share your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:51 PM
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yeah I've read that bruh what's it supposed to prove? That Rollo can invent vaguely intellectual sounding dramatic depressing concepts? Also, Mrs. Tomassi saying "you're such a big baby" does not add up to "women can sympathise, but NOT empathise." She's not even sympathising there, that's callous. Contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:24 PM
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when I first read the article I thought it meant 'your female friends don't care about you either really; nor does your girlfriend/wife' then someone said that it means she shouldn't game someone at the bar or on Tinder by being an open book and I'm just smh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:15 PM
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Women are capable of quite a bit, it's what they do (or rather don't do, with their abilities) that makes reality so far from the fiction we've been force-fed by society. IIRC the stance is that if women care like that, they pity you like a boy, they can't be attracted to you like a man They're not talking about your mom, your wife, your daughter, they're talking about the skank at the bar you want to spin. It has been said repeatedly, but moreso recently, BP functions are absolutely necessary f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:14 PM
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Thanks for the response. Out of interest, why do you no longer really agree with redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 09:11 AM
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I read the comment, though perhaps I didn't understand it. You basically said "anger phase bad, makes men whiney and blame their problems on women and society! When will he get over it?!" From this one might wonder whether you were seeking to divert me from my original question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:55 AM
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ugh. So, the main reason iyo that TRP is bad for a man's mental health, is NOT that it's inaccurate...but that lots of dudes are bitter and butthurt about its accuracy? So then, is the problem not that "women don't give a fuck about your feelings or problems [...] they only care about attention and validation" but "you whine about women not giving a fuck about you"? (Disclaimer because I sense you need it: "give a fuck about" =/= "willing to fuck (have sex with)")
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:41 AM
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That's an entirely different message to that shown in the examples. The world, no one, owes you or anyone else anything. That's a pretty mainstream 'redpill'. This article however is saying women not only don't owe anyone anything, but they fundamentally lack empathy towards you as a human being, by virtue of being a tingle-seeking hypergamous AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:40 AM
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it makes perfect sense I think that little dude has solid game. all over the amused mastery, agree+amplify, cocky+funny show
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:13 PM
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so you're not true blue, you're a purple who dislikes men whining about hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:08 PM
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I was trying not to sound like that, but yes that was how the gears of my mind were whirring as I made OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 03:17 AM
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so what does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 03:16 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/45a4gf/q4all_is_the_physical_smv_counterpart_to_a/czwfdpk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:37 PM
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skinny fat v. lean http://theskinnyfatsolution.com/wp-content/thesis/skins/kol-marketers-delight/images/jd.png I look more like this https://vanillily.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1535274_lookbook.jpg nude like this http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/533741389.jpg?v=2&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=cvbAf_6ce5VlLyczL6YSnUg8XFTgSmWfYredn2F8yxigV2hABniMxcFVgotmlLcY0 although aforementioned Christmas weight (nearly gone) has killed some of my definition lol I default to hipster because I need glasses, don't judge me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:28 PM
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nope I think he's in love. However, this thread is not about love, but assortative mating and 'hooking up within your league' as BP insists is the way forward
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:21 PM
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right so post a pic of an equally matched couple pls griddy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:04 PM
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how would men having higher standards help them? Higher standards personality wise you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:04 PM
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I lift but the Christmas chocolate Santa beckons me :( Let's assume that I am skinny. Who is my counterpart?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:03 PM
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that's not what bp tends to say...don't they usually say men's standards are too high and every problem would be resolved if rp stopped being so butthurt and lowered their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:26 PM
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dat Chad hair. 7/10 would bang
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:23 PM
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right so are these fairly matched?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:19 PM
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k I resubmitted the main body of text with a more serious approach. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:06 PM
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not sure what you mean by this well women sometimes say that they have naturally higher levels of body fat, so the counterpart to a skinny out of shape guy is not a skinny out of shape woman (as one might intuitively believe) but an overweight/obese woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:26 PM
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but it's not quite just 'i canna get laid!' it's 'I'm so lone;ly'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:59 AM
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don't men lose their power when they try to get women to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:56 AM
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high-larious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:55 AM
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absolutely not all women, most women however will have less understanding of what it's like than their male counterparts, just as women have a monopoly on labour PMS etc. I did make that disclaimer in my OP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:14 PM
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can't find it. Can't CYV. I give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:13 PM
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that was not the point, you're taking the claim literally, OP came in and basically said LOL y u guys so butthurt about not getting laid? #firstworldproblems Get over it with these pictures of puppies (srs)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:13 PM
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what advantages does the average man have over women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:11 PM
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no there is another...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:03 PM
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Empress actually says I have been propositioned many a time, I've got more important shit to do so I'm guessing that most women can get into A relationship, just not one with a high value man that gives them tingles. It's not like it's between Chad or abusive neckbeard lol, there is a middle ground
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:02 PM
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banging head on brick wall read the comment where a woman says how she can "tell" who is a "genuine" nice guy or a fake Nice GuyTM
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:00 PM
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yes thank you! smh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:59 PM
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absolutely, but one of my points was that most of these guys can't get EITHER sex or relationships. in fact if a low value guy said he's lonely, it's assumed he just wants to bust a nut kek
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:58 PM
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and do you realise how fucking ridiculous this is to argue women's POV deserves more sympathy? It's the equivalent of guys claiming they're FA because "no hot girls ask me out, only ugly hambeasts :'("
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:57 PM
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haha, I did my best to understand :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:56 PM
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but this is the point, the crippling pain of loneliness and rejection is viewed as 'just wanting the pussay lol, asshole views women like a piece of meat, he can fuck off'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:56 PM
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thanks for sharing your perspective. I wasn't meaning to say every woman understands periods, of course I talk in generalisations, but the purpose was to show something which most men will never truly understand (as an attempt to empathise with women's POV) Your 2nd point: sorry, but we have a deluge o 'Nice Guy' shaming threads on here, half of those are lonely men describing such an experience. Most men don't think like redpillers, when they say "I want to get laid" they usually mean "I want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:53 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/41nioz/sympathy_for_the_terper_a_lot_of_women_are_bitches/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:52 PM
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yeah but gynocentrism means that women lonely with lack of relationships is seen as something to feel sympathy for, but men who lack sex something to laugh at. and sometimes, even men who are also lonely, something to laugh at
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:39 PM
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no one is saying you have to fuck them smh, just stop shitting on them confirmed BP is giving up on empathy. good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:36 PM
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but most men cannot get casual sex, many men would be happy with relationships, women can get both, but only really want the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:36 PM
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Again, this is MY view, but I'm hoping people can add to it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:23 PM
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yeah man I've got a red flair so have heard that story, just wondering how all pills rationalise this, especially bluepill women and feminists, but wanted to hear from reds purples and blacks too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:13 PM
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Men do get off watching people worship their offline posts are you saying the rp vanguard are high in narcissistic traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 03:54 AM
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hmm., this is what rollo says in preventative medicine. so why is the narrative changing in trp sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 03:43 AM
-1

this is what I thought. even when women are hypergamous, they are rarely so openly gleeful about it, if for nothing less than it would tarnish their social proof
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:51 AM
-1

because he might be trying to think the best of women as a recovering misogynist, but when faced with some of what he perceives as the worst, need to distance himself from them for the sake of himself and others. Like an alcoholic trying to stay away from booze, he'd hope people could respect that and not judge him for it…although it's true, people will always judge
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:48 AM
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if a man decided not to have anything to do with this woman, but didn't say AWALT, would he be a misogynist? would most women hold it against him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:43 AM
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there are 3 questions really do women typically think about AF/BB this overtly and consciously? are women this sadistic towards beta bux (stringing him along while riding the CC then locking him down for marriage once she hits the wall knowing he'll be easier to manipulate)? are women usually this HONEST about it?! edit: 4, do women think of AF/BB as something they deserve? OP specifically says "we'll […] get what we deserve"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:41 AM
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is this woman an extremist? according to rp theory she's pretty average, what men should expect entering the amp anyway, I don't always endorse extremist rp views, even if I have a red anti feminist flair
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:34 AM
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Then why would guys sub to trp? That'd mean that field reports nor ECS could be trusted, as OP suggests
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 10:54 PM
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You can't say 'studies say XYZ' and then when we ask 'link please?' say 'I forgot'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:45 AM
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Why would a woman want to roll back women's rights? Why would a black woman be against civil rights movements?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:43 AM
1

Me blaming? This is an MP's opinion. A black, female MP. Not exactly the most likely to benefit from patriarchy, yet even SHGE is critical of feminism!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:41 AM
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Can I ask, do you identify as feminist? Does feminism not find it ironic that the white middle class women have benefited more from bringing down the patriarchy than low income minorities? When taking into account intersectionalism, does that not challenge privilege theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:39 AM
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so you just admitted there would be no response even if I 'actually cared about hearing their point of view' unless I fundamentally agreed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:47 PM
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By the same logic, women have no lack of rights in the Western world, they just apparently lack the boogeyman 'male privilege.' So what MakeEmsayAyy is actually referring to is men lacking privilege, yet getting told to check their privilege. Kek
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:44 PM
1

Then they should have said "Unless you're an esteemed evolutionary psychologist with academic credentials, we do not support a bro-scientist's reductionist 'bio-truths' arguments here. If that is all you have to offer, please leave." instead of blanket banning without even talking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:39 PM
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Neckbeard shaming was regularly encouraged. I posted the crying Spiderman meme. In fact, there was a satirical image saying "look girls, a manly man has come to share his opinion on feminism!'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:37 PM
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It was a Facebook page btw, not a subreddit. potato potahto. And actually I disagreed that socialised gender roles lacked a biological origin-not that gender identity and roles lacked a social constructs. Nor did I disagree that rigid gender roles were problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:34 PM
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Post has been removed lol. Turned into a shit storm when I went to bed apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:32 PM
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if you actually cared about hearing their point of view. I did. I liked several of the comments made, such as that the root of unbiased divorce court alimony/child support settlements may be perceptions of women as better home0makers and mothers. It was they who refused to engaged with me, totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:31 PM
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irony is that the mod was an atheist kek
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:21 PM
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ye this is the thing. they did not even bother addressing my point. if they had at least done that i would have been cool. they just banned me and the other guy who said nothing incriminating other than 'I respectfully disagree on the facts you present here' without warning
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:20 PM
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Here are things I liked on FB recently. Gig I went to last night Picture of my best friend smiling 'Joe Cocker dies age 70' RIP :( Similarly Terry Wogan RIP :( Something about Bowie and the Labyrinth sequel holy shit how misogynistic is my news feed!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:18 PM
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lololol you really think I go around shitting over my Facebook feed with red pill theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:55 PM
1

A likely story, Chestbrah. A likely story.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:53 PM
1

Is this the real Chestbrah of misc. legend?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:38 PM
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yeah I stand corrected. Maaaan that dumb. Mosques.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:26 PM
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The statement made was a direct attack on the men's rights movement, equivalent to saying(using your synagogue reality) thatMuslims Jews can't reach Heaven because they believe in the Abrahamic God rather than Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:23 PM
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When you have a community with a certain ideology they don't have an obligation to give opposing opinions a voice. It generally detracts from their 'goal', whatever that might be. then all these communities are quasi-cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:23 PM
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Sorry, you missed the disclaimer where I said it's a shame I can't work out whether feminists are proportionally represented in Switzerland, including the discussion of the 1st MRA/anti-feminist conference. We can draw one of 2 conclusions from this: IF most women in S are feminists, then Swiss feminists are in fact in favour of the draft IF most women is S are NOT feminists, then Swiss women lean traditionalist wrt. gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:56 AM
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it had everything to do with male bonding, discipline, and public service, and almost nothing to do with any combat. What about female bonding, discipline, and public service. You're missing my primary criticism. No-one's making women do this, yet women are voting against men being allowed to say Pass-and this during an 'aggressively liberal' political atmosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:55 AM
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Yeh exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:53 AM
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Preaching to the choir kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:51 AM
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Feminists are against the draft and in support of suffrage, yet in a country where women make the majority of parliamentary executive and slightly over half the electorate, the country voted against abolishing the draft. I'll repeat; the draft is mandatory for men but voluntary for women. This means women were voting to keep men getting conscripted, knowing women had no reason to worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:48 AM
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Funny story, I got new bedding yesterday which is soooo comfy. But I woke up with a million dollar nose bleed, shit stained all over it! And I was like fuuuuck. Thought this was going to be the worst day ever. But then later today on the way home from work, I bumped into Adriana Lima. Now her being bang tidy and all I started creaming my panties and my nose snorted out in excitement. The boogers and thick blood clots just popped out everywhere. Welp, turns out she's got a fetish for nosebleeds. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:04 AM
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yeah my friend told his ex girlfriend that he'd developed prostate…within 3 weeks she said that he was a nice guy but it wasn't working and she hopes that the op goes well. Ghosts him after that. 3 months later finds out she's been riding the CC lel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:20 AM
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because vulnerability makes women feel icky about grown men. They pity them but unless they're specifically incapacitated from the SMP they do their best to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:19 AM
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you realise a girl can put a dude behind bars for 'hurt feelings' frm her side these days
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:30 AM
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i'm sorry bruh i just feel like that's the way the cookie crumbles
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:15 AM
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I will do everything I can to not be hurt by a woman. I've spent 18 months getting the state to fund me and putting myself in ill health so I could avoid women, but unfortunately the time is running short.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:35 AM
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ye i'm on the spectrum...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:12 AM
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Thales buddy, stop reading TRP and start reading Karen Straughan, Dalrock, The Misandry Bubble and The Rational Male. Then make your mind up afterwards. Also watch Hjernevask.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 11:36 PM
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The beta wants to be cucked now? The incel lives for himself. He refuses to improve for women. He refuses to improve on things which women value that he does not, but is 'supposed' to value. This doesn't change the fact society (and I would have thought RP) is likely to regard him as a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 03:22 PM
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they exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:51 AM
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Son I wasn't asking if women despise betas, I know they feel sorry but don't respect them, my q. was who did unplugged RP men despise more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:49 AM
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I thought feminists don't expect men to earn more than them because they see it as part of masculine domination
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:39 AM
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Thanks for your thoughts. Why would the pay be a problem if you're a feminist against such expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:15 AM
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check ur source bruh, might be from Femcuck Academy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:27 AM
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good taste it seems. am rp bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:20 AM
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I know I shouldn't and don't really want to sell my soul, but it's become increasingly obvious that women have and ses threshold which I'm not sure shit like teaching will cover so wouldn't it be logical to just be happy 'MGTOW' single and free in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:19 AM
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Haha. I'm just going off the stories I've heard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:18 AM
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Dude, your post history…giggidy I guess you'd explain this by saying patriarchy and toxic masculinity did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:12 AM
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Maybe from a bp perspective but an rper might see this just as when women say 'looks don't matter' but they really do, if ya get me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:10 AM
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what if showing compassion to a guy who dies trying to get laid is not helping the rest of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:22 PM
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not a shitpost I just saw someone say the best way to motivate weak men is to remind them that they're a puss rather than coddle their feelings, well by this logic the weakest men are the ones who jump off Brooklyn Bridge and go chill six feet under for the next thousand years. Yet for all its amorality, I don't see TRP calling those men pussies. If anything, i saw Rollo being compassionate in that 'Casualties' post on Year Two
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:21 PM
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yeah well if nobody wants a pussy then why not name and shame the guys who come over seeking help, fail to take it and then get reported as dead? I don't endorse this I am just fucking sick of the guys over there pretending to be sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:16 PM
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cuz u get banned for debating an ec
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:09 PM
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Is the milk skimmed, semi skimmed or ... -| -| ■ ■ Full fat? YEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:23 PM
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in what way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:44 PM
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Man I'm sorry but outside the echo chamber, lots of people don't think Trump's gonna make it bro :(
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:44 PM
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ur ghey
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:43 PM
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be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:43 PM
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Please expand upon this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:43 PM
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I beg to differ, when Obama wears a t-shirt saying 'this is what a feminist looks like', the man on top are cucked by the powerful women in their lives and careers with feminist dispositions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:03 PM
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So a man isn't AB unless he's conservative individualist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:01 PM
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You serious? Expand on this please
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:00 AM
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ABs are high betas as you said, so they often work for the greater good and are charitable to those who need their help . You'd have to incentivise the AFs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:59 AM
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You honestly believe it's impossible to train a child to be extraordinarily educated and skilled,, if not naturally intelligent, and in peak physical shape for government agency purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:57 AM
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Me? No not me alone don't be silly. Nice charge of narcissism though, seems to be a favourite accusation for feminists in the media lately. Female promiscuity is less "gross" as it is something which has social and economic consequences which have discussed at length around here. Wives with high-N counts less likely to be content with their beta bux, more likely to develop 'Alpha Widow' syndrome etc. The double standard where it's alright to mock male virgins too Also the fact that we're lenient…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:56 AM
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Because ABs are all white-knights now? I'm yet to see women say they'll offer anything in a reship or whatever here, their complaint is that men are complaining they have to be awesome not to e treated with contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:51 AM
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how did you guys manage to find the time to become ECs if the best solution is to approach the information with casual indifference and be on your merry way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:06 AM
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It sure seems liken lot of men are getting divorce raped. Anyway, aren';t you supposed to be an EC of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:22 PM
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Clueless? It's clear that the current geocentric state is a product of 3rd wave feminism becoming the mainstream, collective social consciousness. The issue is whether one can fight cultural Marxism with a collectivist strategy, and how we can over-turn some of these laws. It's unlikely that the SMP can ever be rebalanced in full, but we can at least end e.g. no-fault divorce, bias in the divorce courts re: child custody, alimony, child support et. al.; affirmative action in universities and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:21 PM
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You need to speak to the MRM to see where I'm coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:57 PM
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Because I don't want to kill women, I want to reverse gynocentric policy which fucks over the average Joe and establish a system which eliminates gross cock carousel riding and divorce rape. I cannot eliminate he hypergamic impulse but I can re-stabilise civilisation with something to rein it in. The question is what, if not patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:57 PM
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Not if you raise an average gifted child rom a young age to be an elite weapon
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:54 PM
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Exactly! So, fight fire with fire. Play the better game. What we need to do is raise an army of betatised men, make them sufficiently alpha to be freed from the feminine imperative without having succumbed to the Dark Triad. Like a wizard who knows the secrets of the Dark Arts but can control them at will, as opposed to being consumed by the darkness. These men can be trained like spies to enter high positions and rewrite legislation, either by their own influence or by seducing those who can. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:32 PM
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OK perhaps you should have clarified that in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:12 PM
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Isn't he also showing this 'lack of agency' that you had a go at me for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:12 PM
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Can you provide examples of TRPers reaching 'interesting' conclusions please?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:11 PM
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Do you hang around in a very 'masculine' circle or one where trad.-masculinity is revered? Cos in that case you'll probably face a lot AMOG'ing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:10 PM
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Yeah that wazzup guy said the same about agency. I suppose my choice of 'agency' so far has been temporary MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:10 PM
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If you run with that assumption, you're only going to find evidence to fit that assumption. If you're not willing to trust people, you're not going to find evidence they're trustworthy. I have taken into account confirmation bias If you don't show emotional vulnerability, people won't be able to sympathize with your problems. Disagree with this, they're unlikely to sympathise anyway, and it's demonstrating low value if I do so. If you find someone who treats you like they expect you to be more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:09 PM
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Haha well exposing-feminism is mainly a very old MRA site but I see what you mean!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:07 PM
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Totally agreed, I'd like us all to debate in good faith. I've followed through with my promise to cite my claims that these statements have been made, in one form or other, by BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:07 PM
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I agree men do some virgin-shaming, but I have rather hypocritically seen it used by feminists when trying to shout down the bitterness of a man who threatens their agenda. What I call the "yeah, so, just cos you're a bitter virgin doesn't mean XYZ is an issue" thought-terminating cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:05 PM
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So you're MGTOW? Do guys just not like the label? Sorry to hear of your bad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:04 PM
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Obviously TRP is flawed, my point was TBP isn't squeaky clean either. They're both rolling in the toxic filth of radical identity politics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:03 PM
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Correct. Male disposability
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:02 PM
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Hmm. I'm not entirely convinced. I see a trend where feminists frame an issue as gender-neutral but in practice only operates as women-only. By which I mean you say 'people are entitled to preferences' but the entire answer just revolves around the audacity of men commenting on what women wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:01 PM
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How did you solve your incel problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:58 PM
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What is your opinion on people who believe that 'trans-gender' doesn't exist per se? (Not my belief, am playing deli's advocate)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:58 PM
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I still don't get what makes this Xenmas guy any different to the rest of the 'omegas' or whatever they're called around here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:56 PM
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What's his crappy situation? He seems a little obsessed, smart guy but wasting a lot of time here, like something's troubling him. Like my mate I mentioned to Wolfsous. Other than that I dunno anything about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:54 PM
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Ok well...why not? Misogynists have to justify themselves on PPD, why don't hatd bluepillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:05 AM
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Sorry to hear you've gone through this... How do we differentiate emotional abuse from verbal abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:52 PM
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Hmm you're right. He has tried hitting the gym a few times but always lost motivation after a bit cos his confidence is knocked. Mind linking a pic of what you mean by 'toned and in shape' haha Oh and you picked up I was a Brit :p yeah he sounds a bit more eloquent and posh than me too haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:38 PM
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Cheers I'lll do that. You recommend he gets buff? Like I say he's on the slim side, not fat at all given this girl he liked back in 6th grade called him a fatty when rejecting him lol Haha yeah he has a decent voice tbf!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:31 PM
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Omegas are threatening? I thought they tended to be sort of weak and pathetic lol Your description of him is interesting. I've got an old mate like that. It's a bit odd. He's a smart lad, singer too, but going through some emotional troubles. Physically there is nothing really wrong with him. I mean he's no male model, but he's kind of tall (6'0), slim, and a few of our friends have said he's pretty handsome, in a cute boyish way. But he was burned by a bitch when he was young and still had pupp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:19 PM
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No companionship isn't use if you like them. I'm talking stuff like…say you have a fake guy friend, who you know is into you but is just 'ew', but he's rich and has a nice car, you can't drive, so you pretend to like him, maybe even be into him so that you get free rides to Taco Bell or wherever you feel like going. You also find it kinda cute, adorable that he thinks he's got a chance with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:29 PM
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I don't get how what she's doing is dissuading men from self-improvement, sounds more like she's asking the women to be less callous towards their struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:28 PM
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You don't think some generalisations and stereotypes are useful as precautionary measures, and then place onus on others to disprove them? (Classic example Schrodinger's Rapist; this guy might be a rapist until he proves he's trustworthy enough to call friend)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:26 PM
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So it's a sort of compassionate pity because he's so open and honest rather than just butthurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:24 PM
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Concepts like that are fundamentally gynocentric when you think about it. A way to force men to be responsible even when others will not, just because it's what men do, thereby indirectly allowing women to often avoid taking responsibility. I used to do it but since I was red pilled I've been more cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:22 PM
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From what I've seen on PPD for the 3 months or so I've lurked, there's a lot of talk about man lazy children, manipulative Nice Guys, abusive ex-boyfriends/husbands and deadbeat dads, as well as a few rape stories. (I've only felt confident in what I was talking about to post for the last month or so, of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:20 PM
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There's a lot of talk about man children, manipulative Nice Guys, abusive ex-boyfriends/husbands and deadbeat dads, as well as a few rape stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:18 PM
2

If he's omega, what about him is so appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:15 PM
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I see where you're coming from, but it's not as simple as 'they have penises' it's also because society allows them to and indeed, indoctrinates them to think in a way which means they'll act in a way which hurts women and be oblivious, indifferent to it or even think it's justified because of XYZ. Which applies in reverse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:14 PM
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I personally think a lot of the issues discussed on this sub apply to relationships irrespective of the party's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:11 PM
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Surprise? I'm surprised people bother to debate if they're hostile to the other side' arguments from the onset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:11 PM
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Try to listen to their arguments, maybe you'll learn something Ironic because that's precisely what I'm saying TBP is rarely honestly doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:08 PM
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Come on, we can both see that's a straw man. Coratoad is, from what little I've seen of her, one of the more reasoned pro-bluepillers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:08 PM
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Well she shouldn't lead men on, keep them as beta orbiters (I mean friends she doesn't value bar for the validation, protection and resources he gives her), accept that she has to take responsibility for birth control just as men do, not conflate 'I had sex I consented to which I regret cos he's a bit uggers' with 'I was raped that monstrous man who manipulated me should be locked up for good' and recognise that just because a biased law doesn't recognise men can be abused doesn't mean it's OK t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:06 PM
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Xenmas? I've spoken to him a few times...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:05 PM
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Well this is true, so I guess like Wolfsouis you've just took the rational ground. I'm trying to establish something here; it's either women are victims, men are oppressors, or 'men get fucked over because nature, it is the way it is, deal with it.' It helps me frame how I can expect people to react IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:24 PM
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And your thoughts are being policed during the time for yourself to avid sweeping generalisations?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:22 PM
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So what honestly is the rational response to 'I am really hurting and not trusting anyone right now especially women I get involved with'?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:10 PM
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I would say that's a straw man representation of TRP but yes I covered some of the MRA issues in my OP, and there may be more to come.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:07 PM
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No, why are we on PPD. It's a waste of time. There is no point debating with women if their views will never change and they cannot, on the biological level, sympathise or empathise. It amounts to little but intellectual masturbation. At best, it is self-preservation from misandrists who might seek to pass laws to prosecute those with red pill views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:06 PM
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How is she doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:05 PM
4

I have noticed this often.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:04 PM
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I don't interpret the Red Pill AWALT so much as 'women are inferior' as 'women are not always trustworthy, unlikely to sympathise with most of your problems, and expecting you to be more responsible, mature and generally 'high value' than them at all times.'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:02 PM
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https://www.netsafe.org.nz/incitement-to-suicide/ Sympathy is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:59 PM
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I can understand dread, but it's not OK to be really hurt and not trust anyone for a while so stay away from relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:54 PM
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True but again, OP didn't know they were being abused, they were just getting really upset by what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:52 PM
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haha, is that a pic of you and a former bae?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:52 PM
3

Can you explain to me why it is illogical to dislike and be frustrated (since I hate very little except maybe ISIS) people who admit to looking out for their own best interest, and laughing at low-value people. As far as most women are concerned, the existence of TRP is not justified no matter what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:51 PM
1

How do you feel about vulnerable people who kill themselves after hearing cyber-bullying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:50 PM
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I am sorry to hear that. You realise then, it's women like her who push men towards TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:46 PM
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First of all, he's an unreliable narrator. How do we know he didn't, harass her? In the same way that women who are victims of rape are? Could I get away with that defence? maybe there is a reason his relationships don't work out OK so if you were facing jail time for something you didn't do which nobody believes you didn't do because you're a man, the first thing you would think about is ensuring you don't sound like a misandrist by saying any 'pathetic' generalisations while in pain. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:44 PM
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OK well I suppose women will always have a hard time about that when some men are rapists (an exaggerated no. imo, but that's another thread) and some women are lonely too. But the redpill/MRM covers issues such as those experienced by your brother as well. So if you don't mind me asking, what do you mind by 'SAH wife that takes advantage of him'?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:15 PM
2

Mmm. I am a little further past the anger phase than you my friend, but I still get riled when I see the hamstering over issues such as birth control. Apparently men who don't put on condoms right when drunk are pussies, and men who can't handle fatherhood shouldn't sleep around at all, but women should be free to be as promiscuous as they want and have the right to avoid birth control or abortion if it's painful? Dafuq? The only logical conclusion from that is they don't want any responsibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:07 PM
1

This is what I don't understand, there were crimes against incitement to suicide, yet u/Atlas says that if he hits her after provocation, she'll get away scot-free. I'm talking ABH not GBH
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:02 PM
1

Are you saying feminists would have no case to put forward re: emotional abuse only? My understanding was a rep from e.g. Women's Aid would advocate VAWA and press charges citing Duluth Model.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:00 PM
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I'm fairly sure you can, VAWA and Duluth Model cover women who are emotionally abused too 'For example, the "emotional abuse" segment on the Power and Control Wheel is contrasted with the “respect” segment on the Equality Wheel. So the wheels can be used together as a way to identify and explore abuse, then encourage non-violent change.'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 03:47 PM
1

I see. Thanks for explaining. She will not even receive a warning of some sort? Her words won't go on record?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:50 PM
1

OK, well what would you suggest would be the outcome based off the details provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:44 PM
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You're focussing only on the Game element of this, and I'll admit in hindsight a lot of my post reeks of thirsty for hot girls, but there were aspects which are not all SMV-related and to do with the way feminism indoctrinates women (ex. the video from Karen Straughan/GWW, the discussion on the decline of marriage and conflicting attitudes to 'rape culture')
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:35 PM
2

Interesting way of looking at it. Begs the question, why are we all here if the women fundamentally can't even care lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 02:26 PM
2

A hypothetical scenario so I would not know which state, do they have different laws on DV and abuse cross-state?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:49 PM
2

Can't say I am
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:48 PM
1

see comment below. Isn't incitement to suicide treated similarly to incitement to violence? I mean, if she'd actually have made him do it, that's manslaughter isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:42 PM
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Words? I'm deliberately picking an example where the woman is telling the man 'lol kill urself'. Were the man a vulnerable adult, he would have picked up the nearest knife and ended it. Surely that would constitute DV as emotional abuse I have not picked a registered man with a condition (e.g. clinical depression active, autism) because law would treat him as a 'vulnerable adult' i.e. akin to a teenage boy. He would still likely be accountable but it could either be a decisive factor resulting i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:40 PM
1

This is what I want to figure out, however I know they're mostly just going to say I'm butt-hurt and bitter unless I can get stats or a second opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:09 PM
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I don't really want to associate with women because they'll probably do this. Lock me into beta bux then if I don't do what they say, use the system against me. Do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:01 PM
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Have feminists taken into account that abusive women are more likely to be emotionally abusive than men? Does the data reflect this, or is it the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:09 AM
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I thought if one incites someone to suicide there are laws against it. E.g. cyber-bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:01 AM
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This is very true, yet even though they don't all have the same sources, all of those claims still follow the formula 'red pill doesn't sympathise enough with ways women are oppressed-> red pill are a bunch of oversensitive crybabies'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:46 AM
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Thank you for trying to empathise with the claims. I think that you should try to be you, but be aware of your power (sometimes unjust) as a woman and seek personally to not exploit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:45 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to answer the claims, I shall read them through soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:44 AM
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Sure. I've hyper-linked examples. Less straw to my man now, I hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:39 AM
2

Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:34 AM
3

Can you elaborate please? How do you feel this affects my assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:18 AM
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Many thanks for offering your perspective, I shall read through these now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:00 AM
2

There are laws against beating people to a bloody pulp you know. A woman could tell a man to kill himself and if he hit her, he'd be the one facing prosecution. Doesn't even count as self defence unless it's physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:33 AM
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He's facing jail because his ex thought it'd be funny to file a false rape accusation. Jesus Christ. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3w50ex/discussion_share_your_honest_views_on_the/cxtlcfo?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:30 AM
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Inb4 projection/straw-man I collected these points from observation of multiple threads and comment responses on various issues. These were the positions provided stripped to the bone, without the mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:17 AM
1

Charge of hot girl goggles? How do you feel about the statements made in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:15 AM
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I am aware of the fact that as a woman my claims of domestic violence or rape will be taken more seriously than men. I am aware that I am in less harm of being coerced into gangs, violent lifestyles. I am aware that the education system is generally skewed in my favour. I am literally unaware of the power I possess as a woman. […] whenever TRP makes claims about me having power as a woman over men its always about sexual power. Can you see how para 1 contradicts phrase 2? hank you for at least t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:11 AM
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Code purple https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ please answer the OP in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:09 AM
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It's illogical though, because these men will lose a lot of their value (at least, external value) when shit hits the fan-child support, alimony, possible imprisonment…well there goes his resource-SMV!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:45 AM
1

Well then, that was an English test, you passed. I'm not gonna change it doe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:13 AM
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So Xemnas established how women want more from men than men want from women, and your only response is 'none of us care'? Pack up PPD, I really don't klnow why we bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:38 PM
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Lol women judge a man who doesn't do all the chores as beta, and a man who does all the chores as beta,. You can't fucking win with women. They want everything and when you give it to them, they just tell everyone you're abusive so they can kick you out and get their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:37 PM
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and you never bothered to get them to fucking rehab?!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:30 PM
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yeh but girls literally don't give a shit about men's mental health lol, as Fletcher said it's 'give me shit or die pls' with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:29 PM
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Okiepoki, I'm sure you could write a book which sold more than The Selfish Gene. Off ya pop _^
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:26 PM
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Be easy on the Xmas child. It looks more like the MRP mods had a recent change of policy-probably after 'beta uprising'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:19 PM
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Relevant https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/3kbxau/psychology_of_a_gynophobe_red_pills_misogyny_may/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:10 AM
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Do you think it's reasonable that a man really has to put 5x as much effort in to get with a girl in his own league, and she will still always have replacements which means she doesn't have to invest in the reship/care about him as much as he does her? I have read so many times that 'bitterness is unattractive, women want hot guys', yet I know without a shadow of a doubt that if I don't take pity on a less attractive woman, I'm thought of as an ass. She literally has to start saying things like …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:03 AM
1

many thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:48 AM
1

fair enough. Can I at least know which article the post was referring to for my own private reading pleasure, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:13 AM
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Yes wub but the question remains why are women being bombarded with attention? This brings us back to 'what is wrong with abolition of gender roles'-> hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:56 AM
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I need to ignore most of these because they are either family or maternal. According to TRP, this would not contradict the Hierarchy of Love. Can you provide specific examples of your female friends and co-workers, coming to your aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:52 AM
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Please tell me that mods are not starting to tone police PPD? Although I admit this has become a circlejerk, the article was relevant and merited discussion of its implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:22 AM
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why has this been deleted? I had to do a detour to access it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:15 AM
2

Did you at least reach 2nd base with guy 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:12 AM
1

Can you list all of these that you think apply please.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:11 AM
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:p
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:11 AM
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Even having really bad taste in things, like if he went to see The Avengers in theater more than once. (I'm like a female Larry David.) Well, I'd be fucked :p do you particularly judge these men for stuff like this? For example, would you want a guy to think he was a low status loser because he saw Age of Ultron 3 times. Would you tell your friends he was one because of this? Everything else is reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:56 AM
2

Thanks for sharing your story all the same. Story 3 is definitely useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:53 AM
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hmmm You understand that TRP has to view this data with scepticism because for all we know he's just another beta orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:48 AM
2

Can you elaborate on ways you feel women emotionally manipulate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:47 AM
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Why focus only on Hitler sending millions of Jews to concentration camps and gas chambers? He built some damn efficient motorways, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:45 AM
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Do you have any examples to challenge his worldview? Any women who came to your aid when you were useless to them, indeed in need?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:42 AM
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Ironically Fletcher, your persistent external locus of control betrays a lack of frame. Unless of course you are willing now to relinquish it, which is always within your rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:40 AM
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Thank you for sharing those stories. Do you think that needing to find an outlet for overcoming introversion necessitously must be overcome by gaming women and applying the 48 Laws? edit: I can see why you'd be disillusioned with feminism and blogs such as DocNerdLove, after receiving shitty advice like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:30 AM
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I'm not asking, 'why did you change', that's patently obvious: you wanted better results. I am asking, 'how did you change'. Related: elaborate on 'more liberal with sharing time in the past' please?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:30 AM
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Thank you for your examples, these are stellar examples of outliers to challenge RP's AWALT heuristic (although TRP may say that guy in 2nd para. lacked frame) Getting personal a moment but we're all dogs on here so hey-ho: Did you sleep with the 1st guy (chubby guy)? How long did you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:28 AM
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OK, well can you elaborate on how these men didn't fit the 'Chad' stereotype? And can you elaborate on how these men turned out to be 'truly ugly/evil on the inside'?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:24 AM
2

Right, so can you elaborate on how this change in mentality and behaviour manifested?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:10 AM
1

Can you elaborate on this second sentence please? In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:09 AM
1

hmm. very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:51 PM
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It's a bit odd because she said a few months before that that she'd had the hots for him for years :S
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:51 PM
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It's both. The fact is beng told you're 'nice' is such a meaningless term, it's like you had no imprint on their life. Perhaps I've read too much into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:16 PM
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It's not just heartbreak though, he genuinely wonders whether this means he is a Nice Guy tm as well as boring and inadequate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:15 PM
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I hope so. Aside from the feminist moniker, it's also come to mean that you're so meh, that there is literally nothing engaging about you bar that you're not abusive or an asshole. It's like being acknowledged for remembering to put some pants on when you leave the house...the right way around. I'm not saying "She's a bitch" for doing this, but it does hurt with this subtext (which may or may not be present).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:31 PM
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So do men but they're told to man up or STFU and if he lets himself go, fair game to dump or cheat. PLUS his job. If they ever wanted to be a mommy then that'll fulfil their dream. It's not about sexual arousal but psychological platonic desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:29 PM
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I did say upset and frustrated, hence counselling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:27 PM
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it doesn't just mean you're average, it means you're boring
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:27 PM
1

how did he do well? he fucked them, then they cheated or ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:14 PM
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eh I'm assuming he didn't want to get cheated on or ghosted y'know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:13 PM
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I fundamentally can't conceive of how they could at a significant rate, even though I've tried, judging by the available data. Forgive me, but that data says, women have the upper hand in dating and relationships. Women get over breakups quicker on average. Women have stronger emotional support systems on average. Women have the protection of the welfare state (to a degree) which men lack to the same degree. The female in-group/male out-group bias. Women are better at cheating, frankly, more oft…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:05 PM
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Women deliberately do this to ensure that the beta does not get too uppity and start thinking he has as much value as the Chad she craved in her youth, because he doesn't, he's a safe option to get the family and children tingles until such a time as she fancies divorce raping him (typically when the kids are of age or when money gets tight). If she's an Alpha Widow you're almost guaranteed to be frivorce-cucked English breakfast. For the same reason they only starfish sex beta buxes while pract…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:38 PM
1

Sorry, what are you saying is bullshit and not black and white? I made several points in that para, just would like clarification please.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:21 PM
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Nobody is going to ask what "you're a nice guy" means. We all know it's a varying degree of rejection or disrespect, and typically means that he's a fly on the wall, passive, boring, bland and disposable. My friend heard it from his ex and he's now gone to therapy to re-evaluate his life. Being thought of as just 'nice' by a woman is a sign that when you die, no one is going to remember your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:18 PM
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I'm sorry I'm not quite sure I can believe this. You're an athlete, you basically can tell Chads to put a barrel in their mouth and fire. Also women don't get dumped unless the man was 3 or more SMV points out of her league. Lots of people on this thread are saying that they wouldn't say those words because of the baggage entailed-or that this scenario rarely happens
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 06:17 PM
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but most men don't react well to 'you are a nice guy' as rejection because they see through it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:55 PM
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oh but they like male suppliants when they're being white knights and beta orbiters, they just need to know their station
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:27 PM
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my mate's ex rejected him saying he was a nice guy and she's sure he'll meet the right girl one day. Bruuuutal. So he basically hates himself now, because to him being nice is like being generic, invisible...disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:13 PM
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Yea as I said to wombat, my mate got told he was a nice guy when he was rejected by his first crush, and now he thinks he's a boring loser so he's stopped coming out with us this weekend :/ he said he would have preferred anything but that, that he was stupid, not funny, even fat, but instead he got 'nice' and he just feels...empty, like there is nothing interesting about him at all well a guy might be afraid to be anything but nice and respectful then he gets friendzoned or frivorce-cucked
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:05 PM
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Yea my friend's ex said that to him and now he's distraught, he thinks he's a total beta and he's just gone OTT on the redpill. It's Chad this hypergamy that AWALT this cuckadoodledoo! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:02 PM
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Yes and I'm saying-let's hear the fish!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:48 AM
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Yes but then she goes into plate category, not LTR category
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:42 AM
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That's literally what the non-crazy New World Order analysis is though, a bunch of rich elites lording it over the rest of us with puppet rulers. I just didn't expect Obama to be one of the puppet cucks. This shit is crazier than those Manhattan Projects I read during freshers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 01:13 AM
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but are they swivelly chairs? We need affirmative action to get more swivelly chairs into STEM
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 01:11 AM
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not about seducing it's about asking where rp goes wrong, hilariously wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 11:44 PM
0

Maggie was on tren though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 11:36 PM
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Yeah I mean I understand ignoring stupid advice like 'just be yourself' and 'I just want a good man', but if she says that she likes guys wearing X or otter mode looks good or she needs him to be able to set boundaries, have intellectual hobbies, be funny etc. I really don't see why it should be totally invalidated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 11:35 PM
1

Again sounds very Illuminati. You're saying Obama has no real power?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 11:18 PM
1

ye but it's 'strong independent and free until the right Prince Charming comes' ye lnow lol #'Murica=McCuckolds #hamster gon' hamster
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:57 PM
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ye it's funny cos you can say whatever shit you like in the misc, but soon as you make a thread on hypergamy or Chad the mods are trigger happy on dat dere ban hammer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:45 PM
1

there are several hundred thousand to million people omn Quora
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:44 PM
3

hmm ok. I'm willing to have my view changed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:44 PM
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well fire away son, that's what the thread was for lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:12 PM
1

inb4 bruh you on dat misc. time? reps 4 truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:11 PM
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but this all assumes every man just wants to go fuck sluts. What if I want a gf but don't want her to disrespect me or cheat on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:05 PM
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ye but it is the girls. But what's more, all the women and men are defending the girls (unless she's a total bish, like slapped him in the face, cheated on him or something) and half the time he's told "man up" "you're not ready for a relationship" "you're being abusive and controlling" etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:03 PM
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ahh k bro sorry am trigger happy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:02 PM
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I'm sorry that's a load of BS, this is a place for blue pill to try and communicate with redpillers while refraining from using expletives while red pill use it for apologetics. I mean look at the EC CisWhiteMaelstrom resounding to that post earlier today; he basically admitted that PPD isn't for the benefit of bluepillers, it's to defend red pill-and what's more, that those without an EC flair won't be taken all that seriously (the "non binding decision" flappytrap)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:02 PM
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but theoretically you could just want to settle down with a model and use trp for that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:59 PM
1

how do we know women gaining power doesn't change shit we've never had a female president yet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:55 PM
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am not sure the private sphere is individualistic. If you look on blogs like Quora, so many white knights getting cucked by gynocentric agendas when asking q.s like "was I mean to my gf?" "my ex doesn't want to be friends what did I do wrong?" etc. etc. Last bit sounds bit NWO-y lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:54 PM
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Ye but just cos a man looks good doesn't mean he gets women There are plenty of white knight mangina pretty boys out there getting cucked by their own politically correct ways (just to play devil's advocate for a truffle)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:52 PM
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Women have been societally and institutionally oppressed historically in the public sphere. We are not 100% at gender equality. Although affirmative action is flawed and the wage gap is a myth, women are taken less seriously on average as leaders than men. Pejorative attitudes towards women, non-masculine men and the LGBT community still exist and circulate around the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:51 PM
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can you pls elaborate on why you think this is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:41 PM
1

If you want to be an alpha bucks, asking RPW is the best thing, cos they don't trust or sleep with alpha fucks and don't respect beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:40 PM
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There is a difference between thinking women are wonderful! and responding to everyone who asks a woman's opinion that he's a cucked idiot for doing so though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:39 PM
1

That sounds artificial and forced as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:05 AM
4

Yes because it presumes that your child is fundamentally merely an extension of your self. (Which is an interesting concept to cover, since in EP terms children are-but in those blank slate humanist terms, this is bound to be upsetting to hear)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:30 PM
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Well it's a bit selfish cos it's solipsistic to assume your kids will want it just cos you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:23 PM
1

So basically humans are stupid animals more controlled by their primitive instincts than they think, pretending to be smart animals. Now here's a question: how did we manage to develop an 'ego'? What exactly is that in evo-psych. terms? (Also I shall ask you about why we evolved social v mating bonding on the other thread)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:22 PM
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I'm saying the message is under-mined because they were largely conforming to patriarchal beauty standards and associating WW's leveraging of female power with feminine beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:50 AM
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Ikr I have muscles, squat booty, double Ds and a face sculpted like a literal goddess. Muh powerful statement against objectification Much bringing down the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:19 AM
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Behaviour which would show they have easiest access to resources and protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 05:54 PM
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Yeah, I've been wondering about this issue for a while too. The common academic consensus is that hypergamy originates with the caste systems and relates to marrying into higher social status, but studies show that female animals typically are attracted to male animals demonstrating dominant, 'high-status' behaviour. It's odd that a professor would not answer your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 05:22 PM
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and he is clearly, demonstrably by the OP choosing to reject something which he regards as toxic both to his own wellbeing and others. So why are you attacking him?
/r/ExRedPill27/11/15 11:39 PM
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… At risk of teaching my grandma how to suck eggs, what limited info we have on the human mind would suggest that the 'male' and 'female' brains have some slight differences. Of these, the most extreme brains suggest the following: The extreme male brain tends to have higher incidences of autism, psychopathy and narcissism The extreme female brain tends to have higher incidences of anxiety disorder and Cluster B personality disorders, particularly BPD [borderline personality disorder] This is a …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/15 11:21 PM
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Thank you for your sympathy. Ah here's the rub; I met and befriended a u jcoen once, who helped me through a difficult time. But the nature of how our relationship disintegrated means I've no idea whetger it due to 'hypergamy' and 'breaking frame' or due to my relapse and bexoming unwittingly abusive.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/15 11:07 PM
1

Did you come here to mock?
/r/ExRedPill27/11/15 11:04 PM
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In fairness, I would love an actual evolutionary biologist to debunk or clarify hypergamy and the mating selection process TRP refers to. I have turned to Quora for this purpose since they have many bright sparks and professionals, but also a strict moderation policy.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/15 04:25 AM
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Oh if we were including general self improvement then there are tons everywhere! I specifically thought he was seeking out stuff relating to dealing with adapting to the gender role flux
/r/ExRedPill22/11/15 04:24 AM
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Uh, gynophobia has been classified for decades bro. Hell there's even a game based upon it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynophobia http://store.steampowered.com/app/365020/ See also the closely related phobia specifically of 'beautiful women', which I believe a lot of TRP could fall under; Caligynephobia or Venustraphobia http://mostcommonphobias.com/caligynephobia-fear-phobia-beautiful-women/ http://www.2knowmyself.com/Dealing_with_Venustraphobia_caligynephobia/fear_of_beautiful_women http://…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/15 04:23 AM
1

I understand your hate for blogspam and clickbait. If you are not a fan of the MRM as well as redpill (mught I ask why?) and are looking for actual community userbases, Maybe check out r/MensLib and r/AskMen?
/r/ExRedPill21/11/15 11:13 AM
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Pros: Men can compensate with intelligence, wealth, status, talent, charisma and Game. Hell beta comfort traits even Cons: Male disposability, no social judgment for his partner.abandoning him, no safety net should he fall It depends whether you consider ugly women's True Forcred Loneliness to be a worse fate than ugly men subject to parasitic gold diggers who don't love them let us not forget that ugly women have higher standards than ugly men without compensatory status, and more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 10:17 PM
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Bingo. RPW are twisted to be poster children for the blue feminist narrative of the damage of patriarchy, broken damaged women reverting to submissive housewives, but many in BP don't even understand what RPWs are actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 06:30 PM
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I did and you've addressed precisely none except rhe low hanging fruit personal rant paragraph I provided, which you took as evidence to remind me that Women Have It Worse (tm) I mean just look at your mostbrecent thread: 'Q4 women only, are you happy to be drhumanised and used as a masturbatory aid?' Who the fuck is going to honestly happily say yes to that? You start with your conclusion and create a circle jerk of opposition to TRP based off that. Any dissenters who agree from e.g. RPW you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 06:13 PM
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So, cherry-picking excerpts to strawman my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:16 AM
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Are you just reacting to the title? I've provided data of how ludicrously the figure has been overblown-from an estimated 1 in 53 to 1 in 3. Outright denying that male sexual assault is important, trivialising male rape and sending any man who faces the accusation through a kangaroo court with no due process. All of this as a collaboration by End Violence Against Women, Rape Crisis UK, Women's Aid, etc. And I don't hate liberalism in principle. I hate what it's becoming-corrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:13 AM
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OK sure it will have happened. The point is the man who made this unwanted advance will be persecuted for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:11 AM
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Regrettably there is little data but the sources provided and several others, because most gender studies and y extension sociologies data is obviously biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:55 AM
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Your response to 'men may be erroneously charged with sexual assault simply for approaching a college girl who thinks he's ugly or creepy, or even for being the one night stand she regrets' is 'boohoo, lower your standards, end oppressive beauty standards then we'll talk about false rape accusations'? Smh. I dare say you would have pushed for the '1 in 3 women' stat with that attitude. Did you read the sources? This isn't just 'end violence against hot babes'. This covers all women in UK univers…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:46 AM
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Yes. Actually, they've put it as 1 in 3. They are including 'unwanted sexual comments and advances' in this, deliberately left vague enough that it could include some poor unattractive man who creeps her out. More importantly, the report in question used, Hidden Marks, outright dismissed looking into incidents of male rape or sexual assault as less important. And because thy are in parlay with the gov.t , there is no way o knowing if this thread will be shut down as hate speech as some point. Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:43 AM
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Certainly my friend. What types are you looking for? Let's start with positive masculinity. http://www.inside-man.co.uk/ http://www.artofmanliness.com/ http://goodmenproject.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/everymanshouldknow/?
/r/ExRedPill20/11/15 02:22 AM
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I really don't think you get the ramifications. Women are already generally sensitive, we're in a rape-paranoid college culture, and End Violence Against Women are ordering universities to pull out all the stops to deal with any incident of sexual 'assault' or harassment with a bogus figre that a third of UK college women have facd serious sexual assault and/or harassment. Soon that will include micro-aggressions. Moreover they say that gender equality-focussed social justice is more important t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:08 AM
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Read sources then comment please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:49 AM
1

This is really interesting. The shit I say to my dad is an extreme version of what you've experienced. May I ask what sorts of things you found yourself saying to your brother?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 11:34 PM
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My friend, I'm pretty well read on TRP, but can you provide me a peer reviewed study that female mammals particularly homo sapiens are hypergamous? Or do you refer to hypergamy in terms of market forces; 'it is natural for women to trade up and have inflated standards in a dating market as imbalanced as that in the Western world'?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:48 PM
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I really hate to say this but I've been ashamed of my mild misogyny for years. At the time I would describe it more as frustration, fear and jealousy than outright contempt, though. TRP just tipped me over the edge.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:46 PM
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and that's fine, but no one here can be converted unless they're allowed to be guided through their frustrations. E.g. me, I basically agree with how TRP sets out dating/relationship dynamics, disagree with their methodology for doing so (dread game etc.)
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:44 PM
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when he enthusiastically set up seeing me again, let me know general time frames, and then shut down communication before I could clarify exactly when, leaving me confused about whether or not our meetup was even happening, as it would be horribly rude and creepy to just show up and THEN text him. Just a heads-up, my ex gf did this before calling me abusive and ghosting on me. This behaviour is not limited to TRP, and a lot of TRP is painful reaction to manipulative women who get away with it be…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:41 PM
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Protip with abusers: it doesn't come out until after the honeymoon period. They groom to provide a false sense of security and then reveal their real selves 6 months in or so. Not to say he will, but if he is hard red and knows you know about it, he might. TRP are well known to revere Machiavellianism.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:39 PM
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I thought this was an open space for RPers to challenge their conceptions without basically dealing with an echo chamber effect like what's in PPD?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:37 PM
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How we do we know that these 'really bad ideas' they held are just no longer applicable now, but once were applicable? E.g. Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks. How easy it is for women to have casual sex and dating in their youth followed by how it becomes a bit more difficult in older age so they settle for someone who can provide. I'm not sure how it's dehumanising because it just describes the most common trend, not what every woman is compelled to pursue or will choose, just what they can.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:35 PM
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Serious question, can I ask which aspects of TRP upset you?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 01:32 PM
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Do you mean MGTOW? Most redpill men are by definition players. I am not, I'm a stage 2 MGTOW/stage I omega incel. That means I currently don't want marriage, have female friends but don't really trust them fully, and am open to dating but generally don't believe in many bluepill concepts.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 11:59 AM
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Most people are really oblivious to the extent that the woman controls their relationships and marriage. It is always her who has the power to cheat or leave and cause financial and emotional ruin, unless the man is significantly out of her league. These are just simple market forces.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 11:57 AM
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However most adult relationships between halfway intelligent people are formed on the basis of mutual attraction and caring. This is how grown-ups deal with each other, by embracing good feelings they give each other and prioritizing your partner's well being. Women have no incentive to do this. If she just gets bored and walks away from a man who loves her and gave her everything, or cheats on him, no one really cares, in fact she will be cast as the victim while he'll have to steer a wide bert…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 11:56 AM
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Halo effect=people treat attractive successful people better. Because of gynocentricism and mnale disposability, unattractive and unsuccessful women will still be pitied and caught in the net of the welfare state or other protectors and white knights. Loser men fall to their deaths without people caring. Therefore cultivating a halo effect is imperative. This is really bad, TRP has desensitised me to continual discussion of concepts like abuse and suicide...
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 11:50 AM
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I'm currently reading Sandman dude, I still need to do a Monk Mode to keep my SMV high enough for the halo effect to benefit my life. There is a danger with MGTOW that it's an excuse to go omega and that has negative repercussions outside of the SMP.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:31 AM
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Sorry, see edit It was fine thank you. I woke up at 5am after passing out at 7pm last night. Not sure what to do with myself for a few hours.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:28 AM
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I shall come back to this answer soon, thanks for responding.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:26 AM
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I shall come back to this answer soon, thanks for responding.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:25 AM
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I am happy to hear, but I don't get this though, how you can be so aware of 'deep, self-sacrificing love'. Unless you're considerably higher sexual market value than her-leagues-she could easily replace you at will. Why does she put up with your flaws and problems? At my age (22) there is basically no incentive for a woman to care anything about a man. Plenty of relationships can exist with basic double standards like she's depressed and needs a shoulder to cry on, but so is he but he has to suc…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:24 AM
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I've tried that. Let's not forget, I'm not just sitting on Reddit 24/7 352 days a year. Unfortunately it didn't work. These thoughts are always at the back of my mind. Some would say that's because we've all evolved to do everything for the ultimate goal of sex. That does not mean life is meaningless without sex, but that we have to perpetually over-ride our basic instincts to copulate and pair-bond, our entire lives.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:20 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3tdp0u/reading_too_much_trp_material_makes_women_seem/ Can you please stop strawmanning what hypergamy is. Hypergamy is women being biologically programmed to seek out the highest status man for her needs-first physically good genetics, then provision. The Good Genes/ Good Dad dynamic. Can you also please stop strawmanning 'ambition' which blatantly means money, power and status. I get annoyed by this deflection 'you must find your own happiness…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:17 AM
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Hypergamy is bad because it's not just restricted to casual sex or sleeping with hot women. It flies in the face of the massive lie that society has constructed about 'love'. Romantic love is a non-existent fabricated creation, because given the opportunity to trade up to a better product, women can and will without remorse. I can try to form a bond with a person and within 3 months of her hypergamy kicking in to fuck off wth Chad, it will be as if I never existed. There will even be stories tha…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/15 06:13 AM
2

Thank you it's appreciated, having a bit of a relapse at present unfortunately
/r/ExRedPill13/11/15 01:43 PM
1

Eh what can you explain this better to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:41 AM
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sometimes i fantasize about getting into an LTR just for the high cheating will give me if you were really vindictive to men this'd make totes sense bruh. Hit 'em while they're down iygm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:40 AM
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Nah blud I tell the truth and nowt but the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:38 AM
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Decent deconstruction that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:38 AM
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So the only reason this doesn't sound like a real woman is because she's not talking about herself as some immortal goddess?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 09:00 AM
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Whoeever says 'I' and narrates is the cheater. Always a woman obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:55 AM
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ikr hamsters gon' hamster bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:50 AM
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Other 2 posts I've posted (see other cpomments)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:50 AM
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Hmm right how about the other 2
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:41 AM
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OK cool, how about the other 2
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:41 AM
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How can you tell? I've posted 2 more above, one from TC, the other AlterNet. I'd say the AlterNet one is the most believable, and even that gets defended. [Cliffs of TC: Man has to go on meds for panic attacks. Dick goes floppy from ED. Is shit helping out with flat tire. Wife cheats to deal with and loves it]
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:30 AM
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Aw man here's another! :D Listen to Sandman fam, hit up dat dere MGTOW cuz http://thoughtcatalog.com/anonymous/2014/06/ive-been-cheating-on-my-husband-for-7-months-and-i-dont-feel-bad-about-it/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:16 AM
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Her's another IRL one; beta gets cucked on AlterNet, rad-fems say "screw your husband who can't tend to your emotional needs, you need a Real man! Go poly no need to tell" http://www.alternet.org/comments/why-i-cant-stop-cheating-my-husband#disqus_thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:08 AM
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This is erotica? Nah man seems all too real to me. Honestly this was I thought my ex would do to me. I could never phrase it but basically I was always thought she be like "lol I convinced my pussy orbiter bf that I loved him, men are such idiots, damn your abs are hard" lick" well she didn't take to that well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:49 AM
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Perfect wording
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:14 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:45 PM
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This is what I was getting at. I'm not saying denying women's right to abort, otherwise rape would be an even worse problem. I'm saying that her partner's opinion matters when they mutually agree to have a child. Of course there must have been a serious discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 09:45 PM
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Look 'local feminist' is a very clunky euphemism I came up with because I can't share the identity for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 12:11 AM
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No you're expected to support her every step of the way or face jail time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 12:09 AM
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The argument is that women should have the right to get an abortion under any conditions, and the father should have absolutely no say in the process while being obliged to support her every step of the way, regardless of the emotional or financial consequences for him. The circumstances of the birth are not to argue for her, because (implicitly) men can't get raped, and no woman 'forgets' to take her pills to trick a man into having a baby he's not ready for but she is. It's always the man's fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 12:09 AM
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Does that matter? Look I'm not getting doxxed to prove a pint.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 11:22 PM
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I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 11:21 PM
2

Hyperbole? I'm quoting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 11:13 PM
1

It is an argument thigh. Specifically a demand
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 11:12 PM
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We sometimes talk about how a man has no control of the birth in PPD, in this case she's basically saying any man who even tries to have a vote in what's sad is a misogynist. Imagine a scenario where a woman tricks you into having a baby against your will (deliberately ignores her pills), decides a few weeks down the line that you weren't hot enough for it to be worth it (commitment), then demands that you allow an abortion with the threat of a false rape accusation should you speak up about her…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 09:06 PM
2

Can you please explain? I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 10:05 AM
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Oh that's fine. I was looking at this http://41.media.tumblr.com/ee22ac5bf0accfaa9bf0f34f599747f0/tumblr_nla1re1v6U1u0qxwoo7_1280.jpg :P
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 04:13 AM
6

Sounds like you'll either want to hit the gym or lower your standards.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:30 AM
2

I'd say it's in the middle. Some people are going to be quite forgiving of people with great personalities but most are at least a little superficial. However, the level of superficiality and reliance on external sources of validation (Looks/Assets/Status etc.) present on TRP will only lead you into shallow awful relationships. It's also completely devoid of empathy and for the same reason will fail.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:29 AM
2

This is a really excellent book, in the middle of it right now
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:26 AM
5

This. Frame is literally not putting pussy on a pedestal or being a doormat, and being willing to walk away from being disrespected or taken for granted. They just sold it as some secret training lesson Morpheus gave Neo to 'fight the Matrix' for dramatic effect.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:25 AM
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NMNNG is fine,and leads to self-empowerment; promises to 'cure' Nice Guy Syndrome are the main reason that TRP manages to catch people and lead them to the darker and more problematic stuff.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:23 AM
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My only complaint and it's pretty pathetic, is that Bradley Cooper is pretty ripped. Not sure I'd call him 'mildly' fit/lean. Otherwise solid advice :p
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:04 AM
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NO More Mr Nice Guy Models Way of the Superior Man These are basically the 3 books you want to read from TRP. Everything else like 48 lLaws is just asking for trouble. Even Greene's Art of Seduction is quite manipulative at times.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 02:01 AM
1

Excellent advice, Manson would approve.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/15 01:47 AM
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Thank you very much. The whole 'Women: the Most Responsible Teenager in the House' thing has always been concerning to me. I believe that the quickest way to turn RP back from pure misogyny into some dating and relationship sub with advice about "how to avoid shitty women" akin to r/pussypass and r/MensRights (which I suppose is evident of patriarchy on steroids, no?) is to debunk these 'bio-truths'. I think it's slightly dangerous that young vulnerable guys are getting fed tiny pieces of inform…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/15 12:01 AM
1

I would be very happy to see this list.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/15 09:18 AM
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My question BAD, is why go to the effort of writing literally whole novels of poison outside of the sub? (I am thinking of e.g. Rational Male here, which interpreted literally and read in isolation does brainwash you)
/r/ExRedPill06/09/15 09:18 AM
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I can't comment on much of this right now but do you have a link for said post which shut down r/redpilldebate. I think the most contentious issue for me is the EP. The whole AWALT/solipsism/incapable of empathy/hypergamy/hamstering/manipulative just everything thing falls down with that, and turns back into "Don't date shitty women" I will say however I have struggled to see non-RP examples of m/f interactions since swallowing the pill, the confirmation bias is strong
/r/ExRedPill06/09/15 09:15 AM
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No I can't post in certain subs with my other acc.
/r/MensRights21/08/15 12:18 PM
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I have no interest in associating my main account with this throwaway, no comment.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 05:48 PM
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Literally every fucking thing about 3rd wave feminism these days is "you owe us everything, we don't owe you anything, get over your entitlement issues and stop asking for help! [..] Now help me save me from you and men like you, you patriarchal shitlord!"
/r/MensRights15/08/15 11:26 PM
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Well, thanks for sharing your perspective. I would consider spending lots of time absorbing all of the implications of all of the articles on this very sub and then start wondering, very hard why we are starting to say 'AWALT' and 'modern American woman act like teenagers'. But yes, I know somewhere that getting laid alone won't make me happy, and I have personal experience of the look on a girl's face when she finds out you gamed her. (My heart still aches because despite it, I actually loved h…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 11:17 PM
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Well yes because those efforts aren't even met with thanks by the average modern American woman. They've so consolidated the Feminine Imperative, they take it for granted. So do men, hence why unplugging is such a novelty experience. In an ideal world, all of those things would be great.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 11:14 PM
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I'd like you to either elaborate this or to PM you for more, please.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:14 PM
0

The gang cultures are the result of Dark Triad alphas abandoning the feminine imperative (which includes the 'get a job, work hard and one day you'll be happy and rewarded for it with wife and kids' Fight Club narrative).
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:13 PM
1

I was using that site before TRP before and what I concluded was that it was a training course for Beta Buxes. I still like it though because hook-up culture depresses me.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:11 PM
1

I would disagree. RP does protect you from divorce rape; that's the original purpose of dread game, which is why it's so amusing for feminists to call it abuse and manipulation. But I'd agree that it is ruthlessly self-interested to the point of narcissism. I also employ both MRA work and red pill theory. I don't practice red pill beyond SMV gains though.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:10 PM
1

Actually, the male feminist who came up with the term said is was the rise in single mothers leading to men looking up to criminals as father figures , which is the same thing red pilllers were talking about a lot years later. Source?
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:08 PM
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There are also the older redpillers who just don't want to be divorce raped by an unfaithful and horny wife…o and behold MarriedRedPill
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:08 PM
1

it means swallowing the red pill and accepting that most of the reality around us is programmed towards the imperatives of women, and in particular the elite attractive women who pull the strings of the men in power.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 01:09 PM
1

it means swallowing the red pill and accepting that most of the reality around us is programmed towards the imperatives of women, and in particular the elite attractive women who pull the strings of the men in power.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 01:09 PM
1

Sounds palatable then. 'Women are people' vs. 'hypergamy doesn't care', I know which one I'd take any day!
/r/MensRights15/08/15 12:53 AM
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I don't see why one can't be an MRA and employ some basic RP theory in order to protect their assets. One doesn't have to game women to believe in the red pill.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 12:45 AM
1

and what do you otherwise propose? Whether or not we spend a large degree of time complaining about it, most of the problems of betas these days stem from 3rd wave feminism and the sexual revolution.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 12:44 AM
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Exactly. A neck beard is basically anyone a feminist ceases to regard as Alpha once they question the Feminine Imperative.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 12:42 AM
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My understanding was Nice Guys didn't even get to the hookup stage. Oh I agree on shaming. https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/ -<-- someone showed me that 6 months ago and I have not lost an argument with an SJW on Facebook since.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 12:40 AM
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Hmm thanks for the offer man. I'll be honest, I'm right into red pill theory, as I thought The Game was redundant. I'm reading Rational Male right now and boy is that heavy. I felt RP would be too much for my friend at this point in time, I had a depression relapse just from the 1st phase about 2 years ago. You still believe Strauss to be relevant to the modern SMP?
/r/MensRights15/08/15 12:39 AM
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How do I help my friend who has yet to even hear of a shit test? Yesterday he was like "hey bro I'm working on talking to girls, I'd like to go up to a pretty girl and ask for a dance, should I buy her a drink too maybe?" He's 22 like myself.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:44 PM
2

I believe TRP to be a set of chameleons, adapting to an environment which they consider to be hostile to their natural selves. In doing so they sell their soul, but get laid a lot.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:43 PM
1

Bear in mind many of them are young mate, 18-24
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:42 PM
1

then what do you propose as an alternative? You've heard of the 'anger phase' of unplugging, no?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:42 PM
1

Have you done that?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:41 PM
0

I'm learning that the hard way this week, haha
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:32 PM
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For every horror story there's a whole host who are just being tarred with the neck beard and fedora brush. Men loathe them because alphas loathe betas and male feminists/white knights loathe non-white knighting men. There is a meme which I can't find on Google yet, but [sic] 'this guy is perfectly happy, rich, successful, has some really neat hobbies, and yet you judge him for what he does/how he looks, call him a loser?' It's basically a fat guy standing next to geek lore.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 11:32 PM
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Didn't Rollo cover the 'myth of the biological clock'? And yeah I am wary of marriage, one of the primary reasons I'm here is my day was divorce raped.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 09:13 PM
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I take it you're MGTOW...
/r/MensRights14/08/15 09:12 PM
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…ehhh red pill decided that it wasn't just limited to women at clubs a while ago bro, think you confuse that with PUA. I am glad to hear you're happy though.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:57 PM
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No this is fucking ridiculous. A man could do nothing but be fat, not dress great and choose to spend most of his free time watching anime, and he'd get his own derogatory m'lady meme the first time he tried to be treated with respect. Not all neckneards serve the feminine imperative.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:55 PM
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Female approval or female attraction? Those are two different things (sadly they're often in opposition which is one of the causes for today's crisis in masculinity). You must have noticed that going down the road of being the high status alpha male will win you very little female approval not to mention resentment and jealousy from almost all of society. It will get you sex though. I find that price way too high. That's a really valid insight, actually. However, I think it's possible. For examp…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:52 PM
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Toxic or not it seems to be true. 'Feels over reals' as they say. All evidence of what's occurring with feminism at present points towards red pill theory. What can you say to refute this?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:47 PM
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How have women been duped? Imo most of said Social Engineers are women.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:29 PM
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I personally think that these terms no longer mean actual sleazy Nice Guys ™ but anyone who doesn't automatically suck up to the feminine imperative or men women/feminists simply don't like, find sexy, randomly deem losers for the way they live their life, etc.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:28 PM
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I've read both Rollo and Roissy. Why were you hesitant about Roosh? Thanks for Ironwood and Day.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:22 PM
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Wow what a bitch. Again I wish to say NAWALT but it's getting harder. What I do believe now is that the route to happiness red pill style is really a route to guaranteed unhappiness , because I have absorbed a more Buddhist philosophy . Material happiness lies in TRP. Do you then believe man's only chance at happiness these days is to let go ever being validated by women or society as a beta?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:22 PM
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I don't care for that version of masculinity at all. And that's why I have no patience or respect for red pill ideology. It attempts to mythologise traditional ideas about masculinity, and claims that if men 'reclaim' these 'natural' masculine traits, they will be happier and more fulfilled. ] But that's bullshit. All of the achievements of civilizations involve suppressing our natural instincts. The physically violent/dominant/controlling elements of masculinity are relics of a bygone era. post…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:19 PM
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I once heard that AVFM and Paul Elam led the MRM. What's happened?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:18 PM
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The million dollar question…. Do women, rad-fems, alpha males or just this elusive 'society' determine whether male victims are cared for?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:14 PM
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I could say all sorts of shit about what women might be like based off my red pill readings and then my account would be suspended. My last one on another forum already was and they brought an abuse counsellor in from London to warn me of consequences for continuing behaviour. So instead I temper it and ask why things have gone this way. Is it rad-fems, or women in general? That's the big question.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:12 PM
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I'd agree we are perhaps becoming too passive, apathetic and afraid to create for fear of disapproval. I'm not sure about too "fickle" or driving others away though, can you give some examples of this? I don't agree with measuring worth with notches on a bedpost Some believe society would not need to advance if women didn't get fed up of where it is at present.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:10 PM
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Women do label them as losers though. That's the thing. Women have the final say on whether a man's life has worth or not under the Feminine Imperative. You speak towards false ideals. I seek them too but I'm beginning to despair.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:08 PM
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Ah man I should have known someone would brigade and try and brainwash me. I'm already aware of this rationale, I've been absorbed in it for the past 18 months,. I still love my mum and sister so ideally I wouldn't like to go AWALT.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:06 PM
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Specifically redpill teaches that you can't get actually get meaningful interaction with women As I stated below: I agree with the issues TRP brings up and even some of their more blue pill dating advice. But the way that they deal with this is to go beyond contempt for feminazis and move towards dehumanising all women through determining them as at heart hypergamous, manipulative and solipsistic in their strategy for a good life, and 'sexual strategy'. They treat them as we once looked at other…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:04 PM
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I agree that feminist notion of helping men to express like women does more harm than good. But not because of the reasons said here. But I'll address that in a different reply. Waiting for the 2nd reply. I can agree with the rest of this. The problem is that not subscribing to the Feminine Imperative makes your life increasingly difficult in this day and age.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:03 PM
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sneaking things through with other rationale such as..? what that means if we don't adapt to the system we perish. edit: Oh wait you're saying go MGTOW haha
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:02 PM
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Ah well done appeal to emotion and intimidation. Yes I'm within your ranks, you're looking at a 3rd phaser. Don't try and force the process, I have to decide whether there's hope or resign myself on my own time. The MRM represents a bunch of betas who have not yet given in to the Feminine Imperative. They are the most reasonable bunch I will find outside the red echo chamber to make my own mind up. No not a single woman I know 'sing' like that' but I'm in a vulnerable mindset now and also young,…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 07:00 PM
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Yeah I used to get forced into binge drinking man. Sucks. Big reason I ended up with anxiety I also used to believe that the amount of pussy I could get was evidence of my self worth . Does it not sometimes trouble you that your boycotting the Feminine Imperative has a powerful institution, and tens of millions of women treat you with contempt, just for not serving their needs as the 'oppressed' class? Has this affected your ability to make friends with women?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:53 PM
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By One Good Man ™ do you mean beta orbiter/white knight? Yes I'm aware of the danger of the FI. You RP bro? I still refuse to believe AWALT. The rate it's going it's Nearly All Feminists Are Like That though
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:46 PM
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I've tried to give my understanding of the definition below.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:38 PM
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Living the life of an alpha is to me like living half a life How is it? I mean, it requires stunted emotional development and ruthless, almost psychologically damaging degrees of effort-but it s (in TRP's opinion) the only way that one will receive anything near the benefits that women receive by virtue of existing (and I suppose, being moderately attractive) I would like to take your POV but it seems that a life without female approval closes many doors. That's 3 billion people giving you the e…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:31 PM
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Some good points: Yes, it is true that it's a thing that lately men have been taught to be subservient to women, and some men have become doormats who never speak up or stand up for themselves, and let women control them. That's a problem that should be worked on, as people generally are unhappy when they let others control their lives. It used to be women in this position who felt they had to obey their husband's will, and had to let him control her life. Times have changed and now it's more of…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:28 PM
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I agree with the issues TRP brings up and even some of their more blue pill dating advice. But the way that they deal with this is to go beyond contempt for feminazis and move towards dehumanising all women through determining them as at heart hypergamous, manipulative and solipsistic in their strategy for a good life, and 'sexual strategy'. They treat them as we once looked at other races, savages who need to be controlled and re-educated. I think this is wrong and a severe degree of misogyny. …
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:20 PM
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Ironically that's how TRP sees the MRM.They think you're a bunch of pussies using feminist tactics to make the world easier for bets and omegas, who women will never respect and feminists will never account for. In fact betas are the single easiest class of male for feminists to exploit and scapegoat. Example: college bar-> drunk guy gets lucky with drunk guy-> the morning after "oh he's not that hot"-> she cries rape-> ruin beta's life and career This is not my opinion, I do not agree with them…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:16 PM
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GrumpyPurpleSloth owned the comments section.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:33 PM
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To be honest I only see it being compassionately addressed by inter sectionalists, who are completely outnumbered by misandrists.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:25 PM
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Sadly to follow all of it to its conclusion you either have to be Alpha, a beta women like, bitter against women for them not liking you or actually dehumanise them. Only 2 of those options are things I want to be.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/15 03:08 AM
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thank you it's appreciated
/r/ExRedPill10/08/15 03:07 AM
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Thank you for this
/r/ExRedPill09/08/15 08:31 PM
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Great post man. (You might remember me from Punching Morpheus)
/r/ExRedPill09/08/15 08:11 PM
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